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		<title>A Mother’s Gratitude and Plea ~ Parents, come out</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>August 4, 2010.  My daughter Amanda’s text said it all:  “What a great day to be alive, to be gay, to be a woman, to be human.  This feeling inside of me is indescribable!  To be equal!  WOW!”</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>August 4, 2010.  My daughter Amanda’s text said it all:  “What a great day to be alive, to be gay, to be a woman, to be human.  This feeling inside of me is indescribable!  To be equal!  WOW!”</p>
<p>Just hours later I saw my son Tyler, with a tear rolling down his cheek, pictured with his husband Spencer on the cover of The Huffington Post with the title “EL8TED!”.  The picture was taken as they stood <a href="http://www.life.com/image/103241555" target="_blank">outside the federal courthouse</a>, where <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/35374462/Prop-8-Ruling-FINAL" target="_blank">Judge Walker’s decision</a> had just been handed down ruling that Proposition 8 &#8212; California’s constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage &#8212; was unconstitutional.</p>
<p>YES!  That is exactly what I was feeling, on that historic and triumphant day:  elated, ecstatic, jumping for joy!  I was filled with renewed hope for my children, their children, and all those to come.  As a mother and a grandmother, I believed that <em>all</em> of my children are equally deserving of the rights and protections provided by our government.  It was euphoric to have a federal judge, for the first time, validate that, and reach the same conclusion.</p>
<p>My mind reflects back on the emotional ride of the past two years.  From the invigorating high of June 17, 2008, when Tyler married Spencer in the San Francisco city hall rotunda with Harvey Milk’s bust looking over his shoulder, to the utter shock, disbelief, and heartbreak of November 5, 2008, when we watched equality be overruled by voters in California motivated by fear and misinformation.  The grief I felt due to the loss of the dream of marriage equality for all my children was horrific.  In addition, the realization, which quickly came that, my pain was in large part caused by my own Mormon faith, the leaders of which were men I once trusted for all of my guidance and solace, was unbearable.  As documented in the recent documentary <a href="http://www.mormonproposition.com/" target="_blank">8:  The Mormon Proposition</a> and elsewhere, Mormon members accounted for as much as 71% of the monetary contributions used to fund Prop 8 and 90% of its volunteers.</p>
<p>Yet today, nearly two years later, I am grateful to the Mormon Church leaders for forcing me to examine what I truly believe in and stand for.  Their hurtful acts stirred within me the passion and courage of a mother bear protecting her cubs.  It gave me the courage to “come out” of my hiding place, behind church doors, and declare to the world that my family is most important, our values count, and choosing love over fear, children over dogma, and equality over discrimination is what God would have me do.</p>
<p>As people gathered in my small town of St. George, Utah this past week for a rally celebrating the Prop 8 court decision, I was sadly reminded that not many parents stand as firmly by their children.  In fact, my husband Steve and I were the only parents in the group of almost 100 people!  Thinking back on this, I cannot help asking:  “Why?  Where are you, parents?”  As long as you stay hidden, you leave your children standing alone.  If you believe, as I do, that all our children deserve fairness and equal rights, then I beg you to have the courage of your children and show yourselves, your love, and your support.</p>
<p>Full equality will come when we normalize “gay” &#8212; normalize gay families, gay marriages, and gay children.  Parents who refuse to embrace this part of their child, or choose to ignore it, miss a beautiful world of amazing people full of goodness and love.  I know it is not easy.  As I have stepped into the rainbow light these past two years, many have rejected me &#8212; including family members, business associates, and friends.  However, the many new people that have come into my life and encircled me with their love have filled that gap one hundred fold!</p>
<p>The journey for full equality took an exciting step forward with Judge Walker’s ruling to overturn Proposition 8.  I believe he arrived at many of his conclusions by witnessing the personal and real life nature of the damage done to families by society’s refusal to afford equal treatment to our gay and lesbian children.<a href="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Linda-and-Steve-Stay-at-Zion-Pride.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-536" title="Linda and Steve Stay at Zion Pride" src="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Linda-and-Steve-Stay-at-Zion-Pride-300x281.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="281" /></a></p>
<p>Therefore, I take this opportunity to put out this plea:  parents, join this march for equality.  I ask you to put a human face on this movement.  Share who your children are with your friends, your co-workers, your siblings, with everyone.  When you hear derogatory comments about gay or lesbian people, or the rampant propaganda and misinformation that are out there regarding them, all you need to say is, “I have a gay son or a lesbian daughter.  If you knew them, you would love them.”  It is that simple.</p>
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<p>Linda is a former fifth generation Mormon, who with her husband Steve, started <a href="../2010/03/31/i-love-you-its-ok-i-love-you/" target="_blank">MomsForEquality.com</a> or DadsForEquality.com to encourage parents to “come out” and be vocal on behalf their children’s rights.  She refers to herself as an “accidental activist” and is featured with her family in the recent documentary film <a href="http://www.mormonproposition.com/" target="_blank">8: The Mormon Proposition</a>, which premiered at the 2010 Sundance film festival.</p>
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		<title>15 Minutes of Fame on FoxNews.com</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>We are amazed at how powerful FoxNews.com makes Linda sound, a mom standing up for her kids, in this article.</p>
<p>Be sure to check out the venomous comments about Linda by Fox News readers.  We keep looking for one by Glen Beck.  Add one of your own!</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are amazed at how powerful FoxNews.com makes Linda sound, a mom standing up for her kids, in this article.</p>
<p>Be sure to check out the venomous comments about Linda by Fox News readers.  We keep looking for one by Glen Beck.  Add one of your own!</p>
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<h2 id="article-title"><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/07/16/new-documentary-follows-mormon-churchs-involvement-passage-proposition/" target="_blank">New Documentary Exposes  Mormon Church&#8217;s Alleged Secret Involvement in Passage of Proposition 8</a></h2>
<p>By Hollie McKay</p>
<p>Published July 16, 2010</p>
<p>| FoxNews.com</p>
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<p>Linda Stay joined forces with filmmaker Reed Cowan to  detail the prominent role the Mormons played in the reinstatement of  Prop 8 in the new documentary &#8220;8: The Mormon Proposition.&#8221;</p>
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<p><!-- /hmedia -->Following a lengthy investigation,  California&#8217;s Fair Political Practices Commission ordered The Church of <a id="KonaLink0" href="http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/07/16/new-documentary-follows-mormon-churchs-involvement-passage-proposition/#" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">Jesus Christ</span></a> of Latter Day Saints last month to pay a $5,539 fine for failing to  accurately report $37,000 in contributions to the victorious effort to  pass Proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriages in California in  2008.</p>
<p>One of the key figures behind exposing the  Church was Linda Stay, whose ancestor was a founding member. But Stay  parted ways with the Church in 2008, and later joined forces with  filmmaker Reed Cowan to detail the prominent role the Mormons played in  the reinstatement of Prop 8 in the new documentary “8: The Mormon  Proposition”, which is narrated by Oscar-winning “Milk” <a id="KonaLink1" href="http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/07/16/new-documentary-follows-mormon-churchs-involvement-passage-proposition/#" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">writer</span></a>,  Lance Dustin Black.</p>
<p>“The documents we exposed really started a  lot of activity; I believe that certainly the film did play a part in  bringing to light what the Church did. Audiences have been shocked –  members of the Church knew it was involved in so many ways, but they had  no idea about the extent of the involvement,” Stay, who has a gay son  and lesbian daughter as well as seven other children, told Pop Tarts. “I  hope this sends a message loud and clear.”</p>
<p>A spokesperson for the Mormon Church said  they had not seen the film.</p>
<p>“We have not seen ‘8: The Mormon  Proposition.’ However, judging from the trailer and background material  online, it appears that accuracy and truth are rare <a id="KonaLink2" href="http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/07/16/new-documentary-follows-mormon-churchs-involvement-passage-proposition/#" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">commodities</span></a> in this film,” Kim Farah, a  representative for the LDS Church told us. “Clearly, anyone looking for  balance and thoughtful discussion of a serious topic will need to look  elsewhere.”</p>
<p>In their defense, the LDS Church stated that  the violations were unintentional and that the Church mistakenly  overlooked the daily reporting requirement and instead reported those  contributions together in a later filing.</p>
<p>Cowan initially intended to make a  documentary on the issue of gay homelessness and suicide in Utah, but  soon realized that, in his opinion, the homophobia that propels  otherwise loving parents to kick their teens out of home is deeply  entrenched in Mormon ideology.  He and Stay have also sought to  illuminate what they believe to be hypocrisy embedded in the Church’s  act of funneling money in the campaign to fight the legalization of <a id="KonaLink3" href="http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/07/16/new-documentary-follows-mormon-churchs-involvement-passage-proposition/#" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">same sex marriage</span></a>.</p>
<p>“As a Mormon, I knew the Church&#8217;s stand on  homosexuality,” Stay said.  “We weren’t expecting them to change that,  but for them to aggressively promote and create ads preaching that  religions would lose their freedom of speech and freedom of assembly,  that they would have to marry gays in their temples, swayed the whole  proposition.”</p>
<p>After a limited theatrical release, “8” was  released on DVD this week, and Stay is now urging Mormons to stand up to  the Church and its strong stance against marriage equality for gays and  <a id="KonaLink4" href="http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/07/16/new-documentary-follows-mormon-churchs-involvement-passage-proposition/#" target="_blank"><span style="color: blue;">lesbians</span></a>.</p>
<p>But, not surprisingly, a number of members  are less-than-impressed with the documentary.</p>
<p>“The director has certainly received some  hate mail,&#8221; Stay said.  We’ve received some derogatory statements from  people. And that’s to be expected.”</p>
<p>But negative feedback is no deterrent for  Stay, who has set up her own website <a href="http://momsforequality.com/" target="_blank">MomsForEquality.com</a> and is in the  process of writing a book in the quest for “spiritual equality” across  the entire nation.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The people at MormonsForMarriage.com have been doing an amazing job of providing documentation for the Mormon referenced content of the film 8: The Mormon Proposition.  Many of the links take you to the very detailed writings of Connell O&#8217;Donovan.</p>
<p>You will find all this information very beneficial as you share the documentary with active Mormons.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people at <a href="http://mormonsformarriage.com/" target="_blank">MormonsForMarriage.com</a> have been doing an amazing job of providing documentation for the Mormon referenced content of the film 8: The Mormon Proposition.  Many of the links take you to the very detailed writings of <a href="http://www.connellodonovan.com/abom.html" target="_blank">Connell O&#8217;Donovan</a>.</p>
<p>You will find all this information very beneficial as you share the documentary with active Mormons.</p>
<p>Here are a couple of their post:</p>
<h2><a rel="bookmark" href="http://mormonsformarriage.com/?p=255" target="_blank">Wait a Minute &#8211; Is That Really True?</a></h2>
<p>Folks watching <em>8:The Mormon Proposition</em> for  the first time this week have been coming up with questions and concerns  about the movie’s claims.  Here’s a little bit of fact checking and  contextualization for those of you looking for it.</p>
<p><strong>Satellite Broadcast Training</strong></p>
<p>Reed Cowan begins this movie with clips  from a <a href="http://mormonsformarriage.com/?p=43" target="_blank">satellite broadcast</a> which originally aired <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.newsroom.lds.org');" href="http://www.newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/news-releases-stories/church-readies-members-on-proposition-8" target="_blank">October  8, 2008 from Salt Lake City</a> to every stake center in California.   He uses a (probably) surreptitious audio recording of the broadcast, so  the audio is not great.  It is accurate, however, and the text is  subtitled for ease of viewing.  A transcript of the whole meeting can be  found <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/kolobcafe.com');" href="http://kolobcafe.com/wiki/index.php/Talk:Prop8Recording/Full" target="_blank">here</a>.   The video for these clips is based on the short video clips once  publicly available from the church’s website, <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.lds.org');" href="http://www.lds.org/" target="_blank">www.lds.org</a> and <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.preservingmarriage.org');" href="http://www.preservingmarriage.org/" target="_blank">www.preservingmarriage.org</a>.   Since the officially available video clips did not include much of what  Cowan used in his movie, he elected to use clips of the video, edited  to obscure the details, as background for the audio quotes he wanted to  include.  The visual effect is a bit ominous.</p>
<p><strong>“Secret” Documents and Hawaii</strong></p>
<p>A good portion of the early part of the movie includes references to  LDS Church documents received by Fred Karger.  The documents are  correspondence between Elder Loren C. Dunn and several other LDS General  Authorities.  Elder Dunn served in the LDS Area Presidency for the  North America Northwest Area, which included California and Hawaii in  the mid-1990s when the LDS Church involved itself in Hawaii’s same-sex  marriage struggles.  Church involvement in this campaign has been  documented <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.mormonsocialscience.org');" href="http://www.mormonsocialscience.org/2008/01/04/richley-crapo-chronology-of-mormon-lds-involvement-in-same-sex-marriage-politics/">here</a> and in <em>The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power</em> by historian  D. Michael Quinn.  Karger’s documents expand on what was already known  and provide even more depth and details of the Church’s Public Affairs  Committee actions.  Documents cited in the movie include  the documents <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/mormongate.com');" href="http://mormongate.com/document1.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Mormon Financial Contributions</strong></p>
<p>Karger suggests that individual Mormons donated 70% of the money  contributed to the Protect Marriage coalition.  [Other sites <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/mormonsfor8.com');" href="http://mormonsfor8.com/" target="_blank">here</a> and <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/base8.lavenderliberal.com');" href="http://base8.lavenderliberal.com/" target="_blank">here</a> don’t attribute quite that much to LDS donors, but neither do they say  their information is complete or exhaustive.  Karger hints that some of  those he identified as being LDS were people who (a) contributed to  Mormon Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign and (b) sent in large sums of  money to the Protect Marriage coalition after the First Presidency  letter was read in Sacrament Meetings across California at the end of  June, 2008.  Notations about BYU attendance were also likely indications  that donors were Mormon as well.  And, in reality, Mormons are not  particularly quiet about their religious affiliations online – they talk  about wards and stakes and Relief Society and FHE and home  teaching/visiting teaching and callings on a regular basis, so it’s not  too hard to identify them.</p>
<p>Total donation information can be found at the <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/cal-access.sos.ca.gov');" href="http://cal-access.sos.ca.gov/Campaign/Committees/Detail.aspx?id=1302592&amp;view=general&amp;session=2007" target="_blank">California  Secretary of State’s page</a>, and <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/mormonsfor8.com');" href="http://mormonsfor8.com/" target="_blank">Mormonsfor8.com</a> includes a breakdown of donations by state, indicating that the  majority of donations came from California residents.</p>
<p>There were special PO Boxes for receiving LDS donation forms to the  Protect Marriage coalition.  Forms from the general public were sent to  P.O. Box 162657, Sacramento, CA and those from LDS members were sent to  P.O. Box 819, Placentia, CA.  Assessments were made for stakes, as had  been done in Hawaii and previously in California during Prop 22.   Individual members were contacted with suggested donations as was done  in <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.nine-moons.com');" href="http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=830" target="_blank">this  blog post</a>.</p>
<p>Certainly the Church knows how much its members gave, and if the  media  reports were way over the top and completely inaccurate, the  Church  could certainly provide correct numbers.  Thus far, it has not.</p>
<p><strong>Church Discipline and Excommunications</strong></p>
<p>While it’s possible that one or two members may have been directly  threatened with church discipline as strict as formal excommunication or  loss of salvation when they were asked to donate, the vast majority of  potential member donors did not receive overt, explicit pressure like  that.  Many were told that donations to support Proposition 8 should be  given the same importance as tithing (which is necessary to pay in order  for a member to be worthy to enter the temple).  Many were told that  supporting Proposition 8 was the same thing as supporting the prophet  (implying that non-support of the initiative was the same as non-support  of the prophet).</p>
<p>More than a few members were subject so some form of ecclesiastical  pressure regarding their involvement (or lack thereof) in the campaign.   Several had temple recommends revoked and others were unable to get  renewed recommends.  Others were released from callings within the  church, and others were asked to stop speaking out against the  proposition if they wanted to continue to serve in callings.  Some  members resigned from callings on their own, or turned down callings,  citing their lack of support for the Church’s actions during the  campaign.</p>
<p>There is no doubt that members were given a not-so-subtle message  that supporting Proposition 8 was a righteous, obedient and holy thing  they needed to do as good members of the Church.  As ecclesiastical  leaders hold the ability to judge whether their adherents are worthy of  eternal salvation or not, those leaders must be very, very careful what  they ask of their followers.  When using this lever to move the Saints,  Church leaders need not exert much effort at all before members are  enthusiastically picking up the banner and moving forward with gusto.</p>
<p><strong>National Organization for Marriage</strong></p>
<p>Karger suggests that the National Organization for Marriage is a  Mormon-instigated and/or controlled “front group” to fight SSM across  the nation, much like Hawaii’s Future Today or Save Traditional  Marriage-’98 were when they were created in Hawaii.  Certainly, Matthew  Holland is LDS and was one of the early founders of the group.  It’s  also no secret that Mormon author Orson Scott Card is now serving as  Holland’s replacement on the NOM Board.  The jury is still out on the  details of Mormon involvement in NOM, but it’s clear that Proposition 8  would not have gotten onto California’s ballot without NOM’s  involvement.</p>
<p><strong>Electroshock Therapy at BYU</strong></p>
<p>The film discusses electroshock therapy at BYU a couple of decades  ago, and a more complete account may be found <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.connellodonovan.com');" href="http://www.connellodonovan.com/abom.html#shocking" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Gay Suicides and Stuart Matis</strong></p>
<p>Stuart Matis committed suicide at an LDS church building in Los  Altos, California, in March 2000, just before Californians voted on  Proposition 22, the predecessor to Prop 8.  Information about his  suicide has been discussed <a href="http://mormonsformarriage.com/?page_id=22" target="_blank">here </a>and <a href="http://mormonsformarriage.com/?p=208" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>In a couple more days, we’ll examine some more things like accounts  about:<br />
—Training members to be election volunteers walking precincts,  supervising efforts in every ZIP code<br />
—Political Tactics/fearmongering arguments/6 Consequences<br />
—LDS Church official reporting of Non-monetary contributions and fines  assessed<br />
—Homelessness/Rejection of Gay Youth<br />
—Quotes by church leaders about homosexuality cited in the film</p>
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<h2><a rel="bookmark" href="http://mormonsformarriage.com/?p=259" target="_blank">They Said What?  When?</a></h2>
<p>About half way through <em>8:The Mormon Proposition,</em> a handful of quotes attributed to Mormon church leaders fade on to and  off of the screen.  Were the quotes accurate?  Were they taken in  context? Were they recent or ancient?  You decide.  There are a couple  of quotes missing, but I didn’t want to leave you hanging while I found  time to grab the info on them:</p>
<p><strong>“How will these be stopped? Only by the  destruction of those who practice them. The only way is…  for the Lord to wipe them out.” – George Q. Cannon, Mormon  Apostle</strong></p>
<p>George Quayle Cannon was the First Counselor in the First Presidency  when he uttered those words at the October 1897 General Conference.  The background for the whole quote included below describing how  “a man” in England was known to be author Oscar Wilde can be found at  this <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.connellodonovan.com');" href="http://www.connellodonovan.com/abom.html#wilde" target="_blank">link</a> which is a revised and expanded version of an article written by  Connell O’Donovan, “‘The Abominable and Detestable Crime Against  Nature’: A Brief History of Homosexuality and Mormonism, 1840-1980”,  Brent Corcoran (ed.), <em>Multiply and Replenish: Mormon Essays on Sex  and Family</em>, (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 1994), pp. 144-5</p>
<blockquote><p>“In England a short time ago a man [Oscar Wilde] who had  posed in society as a man of culture and of taste, and who lectured upon  esthetics, was found to be <strong>guilty of a most abominable crime</strong> &#8211; a crime for which under the old law the penalty was death; a crime  which was practiced by the nations of old, and <strong>caused God to  command their destruction and extirpation</strong>. This crime was  proved against this man, and some of his associates were what are called  noblemen. He was sent to prison. His term of imprisonment having  expired, he comes from prison, and is now engaged, it is so published,  in writing a book, and, we suppose is received into society, though  guilty of this nameless crime. And is this common; If we may believe  that which is told to us, without going into researches ourselves, it  and other kindred wickedness, is far too common. The same sin that  caused the utter destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah! This and other  abominable crimes are being practiced. <strong>How will these be  stopped? Only by the destruction of those who practice them.</strong> Why, if a little nest of them were left that were guilty of these  things, <strong>they would soon corrupt others</strong>,<strong> as some  are being corrupted among us. </strong>In coming to these mountains we  hoped to find a place where we could live secluded from the abominations  of Babylon. But here in this secluded place wickedness intrudes itself,  and is practiced in this land which we have dedicated to the Lord as a  land of Zion! How can this be stopped? <strong>Not while those who have  knowledge of these filthy crimes exist. </strong>The only way, according  to all that I can understand <strong>as the word of God, is for the  Lord to wipe them out, that there will be none left to perpetuate the  knowledge of these dreadful practices among the children of men. And God  will do it, as sure as He has spoken by the mouths of His prophets.</strong> He will destroy the wicked, and those who will be left will be like the  Nephites after the wicked were all killed off; they were righteous men  and women who lived for over two hundred years according to the law of  heaven.” [emphasis O’Donovan’s]</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>“Homosexuality is an ugly sin. Repugnant, like  adultery and incest and beastiality (sic), they carry the death penalty  under mosaic (sic) law.” – Spencer W. Kimball, Mormon prophet</strong></p>
<p>This quote is from the oft-cited book, <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.mormonwiki.org');" href="http://www.mormonwiki.org/Miracle_of_Forgiveness" target="_blank"><em>Miracle  of Forgiveness</em></a> written by Spencer W. Kimball in 1969 before he  was the President of the Church.  As he was an apostle at the time,  however, church members sustained and viewed him as a “prophet, seer and  revelator.”  Although it is now more than 40 years old, it continues to  be used and quoted from in Church materials and lesson manuals,  although much of the harshest language has been toned down or not  referred to.  Edward Kimball, son and biographer of Spencer Kimball, was  interviewed in a <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/mormonstories.org');" href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=940" target="_blank">podcast  in March 2010</a> and discussed the realization that, “We achieve more  by a soft word rather than we do by the harsh.”</p>
<p>The full quote in context is from Chapter 6, Crime Against Nature.  (Other “ugly sins” in the book include fornication, (unwed) pregnancy  and abortion.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Homosexuality is an ugly sin, repugnant to those who find  no temptation in it, as well as to many past offenders who are seeking a  way out of its clutches.  It is embarrassing and unpleasant as a  subject for discussion but because of its prevalence, the need to warn  the uninitiated, and the desire to help those who may already be  involved in it, it is discussed in this chapter.</p>
<p>This perversion is defined as “sexual desire for those of the same  sex or sexual relations between individuals of the same sex,” whether  men or women. It is a sin of the ages. It was present in Israel’s  wandering days as well as after and before. It was tolerated by the  Greeks. It was prevalent in decaying Rome. The ancient cities of Sodom  and Gomorrah are symbols of wretched wickedness more especially related  to this perversion, as the incident of Lot’s visitors indicates. (See  Gen. 19:5.) So degenerate had Sodom become that not ten righteous people  could be found (see Gen. 18:23-32), and the Lord had to destroy it. But  the revolting practice has persisted. As far back as Henry the Eighth  this vice was referred to as “the abominable and detestable crime  against nature.” Some of our own statutes have followed that apt and  descriptive wording.</p>
<p>Sin in sex practices tends to have a “snowballing” effect. As the  restraints fall away, Satan incites the carnal man to ever-deepening  degeneracy in his search for excitement until in many instances he is  lost to any former considerations of decency. Thus it is that through  the ages, perhaps as an extension of homosexual practices, men and women  have sunk even to seeking sexual satisfactions with animals.</p>
<p>Unnatural and Wrong</p>
<p>All such deviations from normal, proper heterosexual relationships  are not merely unnatural but wrong in the sight of God. Like adultery,  incest, and bestiality they carried the death penalty under the Mosaic  law. (Miracle of Forgiveness, pp 77-78).</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Homosexual abominations are fast becoming the way of life  among the wicked ungodly.  &#8211; Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Apostle</strong></p>
<p>Elder McConkie said these words in the October, 1980 General  Conference (as reported in the <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/lds.org');" href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=171&amp;sourceId=081efc3157a6b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD" target="_blank">November  1980 <em>Ensign</em></a>, p. 50). He is perhaps most well-known for  writing the now-out-of-print book, <em>Mormon Doctrine.</em> Until  recently nearly every manual and study guide in the Church had at least  one quote from that book, despite the fact that it is was not every an  official study guide created by a unanimous vote of Church leaders.</p>
<blockquote><p>We live in a day of evil and wickedness. The generality  of men are carnal, sensual, and devilish. They have forgotten God and  are reveling in the lusts of the flesh. Crime, immorality, abortions,  and homosexual abominations are fast becoming the norm of life among the  wicked and ungodly. The world will soon be as corrupt as it was in the  days of Noah.</p>
<p>If any of us are to escape the perils that lie ahead, if any of us  are to abide the day of the Lord’s return, if any of us are to gain  peace in this life and be inheritors of eternal life in the world to  come, we must receive the message sent from on high and conform to the  counsel it contains.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Gays have a problem. – Gordon B. Hinckley, Mormon Prophet</strong></p>
<p>Former Church President Gordon B. Hinckley made this statement during  an<a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/transcripts.cnn.com');" href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0412/26/lkl.01.html" target="_blank"> interview with Larry King</a> on CNN on December 26, 2004.</p>
<blockquote><p>KING: … I know that the Church is opposed to gay  marriage.</p>
<p>HINCKLEY: Yes.</p>
<p>KING: Do you have an alternative? Do you like the idea of civil  unions?</p>
<p>HINCKLEY: Well, we’re not anti-gay. We are pro-family. Let me put it  that way.</p>
<p>And we love these people and try to work with them and help them. We  know they have a problem. We want to help them solve that problem.</p>
<p>KING: A problem they caused, or they were born with?</p>
<p>HINCKLEY: I don’t know. I’m not an expert on these things. I don’t  pretend to be an expert on these things. The fact is, they have a  problem.</p>
<p>KING: Do you favor some sort of state union?</p>
<p>HINCKLEY: Well, we want to be very careful about that, because that &#8211;  whatever may lead to gay marriage, we’re not in favor of.</p>
<p>We &#8211; many people don’t get married. Goodness sakes alive. You know  that.</p>
<p>Many people who have to discipline themselves. If they transgress,  they become subject to the discipline of the Church. But we try in every  way that we know how to help them, to assist them, to bless their  lives.</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>We have been on a whirlwind tour with 8: The Mormon Proposition to Los Angeles, San Diego, Salt Lake City</p>
<p class="wp-caption-text">Dustin Lance Black - Egyptian Theatre LA</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been on a whirlwind tour with <strong><a href="http://www.mormonproposition.com/" target="_blank">8: The Mormon Proposition</a> </strong>to Los Angeles, San Diego, Salt Lake City</p>
<div id="attachment_488" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 158px"><a href="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/lance.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-488" title="lance" src="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/lance.jpg" alt="" width="148" height="198" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Dustin Lance Black - Egyptian Theatre LA</p></div>
<p>and tomorrow, San Francisco for the screening on June 18th.  The response has been remarkable.  The press is very interested with the timing of the ruling against the LDS Church and the resumption of the <a href="http://mobile.laist.com/2010/06/15/prop_8_q_a.php" target="_blank">federal case</a> on Proposition 8 it appears the universe has a mission for this film.</p>
<div id="attachment_483" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 144px"><a href="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/cnn-intrv.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-483" title="cnn intrv" src="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/cnn-intrv-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="134" height="134" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">CNN Interview - LA</p></div>
<p>The most asked question at film festival Q&amp;A sessions is &#8220;What can we do now?&#8221;</p>
<p>If we are going to hold the Mormon Church and other religions accountable, we must share this information exposed in this film.  Knowledge is power.  We hear it again and again, “I had no idea this was happening.”  Voters need to be educated.  It doesn’t matter where you stand on the issue of same-sex marriage.  The fact that a powerful coalition was able to sway a vote and stay completely anonymous should be illegal and is certainly unethical.</p>
<div id="attachment_489" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 251px"><a href="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/tower.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-489" title="tower" src="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/tower.jpg" alt="" width="241" height="181" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Tower Theatre - SLC</p></div>
<p>Join the <strong><a href="http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=125069047532854" target="_blank">Facebook Event page</a></strong> and commit to sharing 8:  The Mormon Proposition.  Start planning to personally share this film with those closest to you, and talk about it afterwards! See it together at the theater or in your homes through Video on Demand starting June 18th. Please share your ideas and results.  It is creating dialogue that leads to understanding which leads to change.  Change is good!</p>
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<td><strong>Atlanta</strong> &#8211; Landmark Midtown Art Cinema<br />
<strong>Boston</strong> &#8211; The Coolidge Corner Theater<br />
<strong>Chicago</strong> &#8211; Gene Siskel Film Center<br />
<strong>Dallas</strong> &#8211; Angelika Dallas<br />
<strong>Ft. Lauderdale</strong> &#8211; Gateway<br />
<strong>Honolulu</strong> &#8211; Kahala 8 Theater<br />
<strong>Houston</strong> &#8211; Angelika Houston<br />
<strong>New York City</strong> &#8211; Village East Cinema, Chelsea  Clearview<br />
<strong>Los Angeles</strong> &#8211; Laemmle’s Sunset Five<br />
<strong>Palm Springs</strong> &#8211; Camelot Theaters<br />
<strong>Scottsdale/Phoenix</strong> &#8211; Harkins Camelview 5<br />
<strong>Salt Lake City</strong> &#8211; Tower Theater<br />
<strong>San Diego- Reading Theater- Gaslamp 15<br />
<strong>Spokane</strong> &#8211; Magic Lantern Theater<br />
<strong>Washington, DC</strong> &#8211; AFI Silver Springs<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Spencer's brother Josh for putting these beautiful clips together. These are clips from a wedding video that was made for the wedding celebration of Spencer Jones and Tyler Barrick that took place in the Russian River Valley of California September 4-6, 2009 . [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Thanks to Spencer&#8217;s brother Josh for putting these beautiful clips together, and for including the following statement with each video:</strong> <em>&#8220;This is a clip from a wedding video that was made for the wedding  celebration of Spencer Jones and Tyler Barrick that took place in the  Russian River Valley of California September 4-6, 2009 .  These are two  people I love and respect immensely and I&#8217;ve gained tremendous respect  for their relationship through the years by seeing the qualities of  love, commitment, nurturing, etc. they share in their relationship  despite everything they&#8217;ve gone through&#8211;qualities I would want in my  own heterosexual marriage relationship.<br />
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<p><em>I think we all have the  tendency to fear things that we don&#8217;t understand or that seem foreign to  us (and unfortunately fear and ignorance often breed hate). So if that  is the case for you&#8211;no matter what your stance is on homosexuality,  proposition 8, or whatever&#8211;I believe the bottom line (and what basic  Christian doctrine teaches, for that matter) is to strive for  understanding, love, and tolerance toward all people, whether you agree  with their actions or not. Hopefully these clips will help you take a  step in that love/tolerance direction, if you weren&#8217;t already headed  that way:)&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Spencer and Tyler are featured in the recent Reed Cowen documentary <a href="http://www.mormonproposition.com/" target="_blank">8: The Mormon Proposition</a> , which premiered at The Sundance Film Festival.  Currently playing at select <a href="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/2010/05/17/8-the-mormon-proposition-festival-screenings/" target="_blank">film festivals</a> with a theatrical and video on demand release on June 18th.</p>
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		<title>8: The Mormon Proposition Festival Screenings</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are some festivals "8: The Mormon Proposition" is playing at before the theatrical release on June 18th: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some festivals &#8220;8: The Mormon Proposition&#8221; is playing at before the theatrical release on June 18th:</p>
<p>Saturday, May 29 at 7:15pm<br />
Tuesday, June 1 at 7:25pm<br />
Jacob Burns/Out at the Movies     Jacob Burns Film Center Theater<br />
364 Manville Road  Pleasantville, NY 10570</p>
<p>Sunday, May 30 at 12:30pm<br />
Honolulu Rainbow Film Festival<br />
The Honolulu Academy of Art:  Doris Duke Theatre<br />
900 South Beretania Street   Honolulu, HI 96814</p>
<p>Sunday, May 30, 2010, 3:00pm<br />
Connecticut Gay &amp; Lesbian Film Festival<br />
Cinestudio Theater, Trinity College   Hartford, CT</p>
<p>Friday, June 4th, 7pm<br />
Portland QDoc        Clinton Street Theater<br />
2522 SE Clinton Street</p>
<p>Saturday, June 5, 5:30pm<br />
NewFest/NY       SVA Theatre<br />
333 W. 23rd St   New York, NY 10011 (between Eighth and Ninth)</p>
<p>Monday, June 7, 7:00 pm<br />
and Tuesday, June 8, 4:15 pm<br />
Seattle International Film Festival     Egyptian Theatre (both screenings)<br />
801 East Pine Street       Seattle, WA 98122-3837</p>
<p>Thursday, June 10, 8pm<br />
deadCENTER Film Festival       Kerr Auditorium<br />
123 Robert S Kerr<br />
Oklahoma City, OK 73102</p>
<p>Friday, June 11 at 7:30pm<br />
Damn These Heels LGBT Film Festival     The Tower Theatre<br />
876 E. 900 S.      Salt Lake City, UT 84105</p>
<p>Friday, June 18, 7:00pm<br />
Frameline San Francisco         Victoria Theater,<br />
2961 16th Street     San Francisco, CA 94103-3633</p>
<p>Thursday, June 17th noon<br />
and Saturday, June 19 at noon<br />
Crown &amp; Anchor      Provincetown Film Festival</p>
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		<title>8: The Mormon Proposition – What it is, What it isn’t</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The bumper sticker said it well: “Focus on Your Own Damn Family.” </p>
<p>8: The Mormon Proposition, reflects the efforts of those that created it and us that are in it, to hold OUR former church accountable for the pain they knowingly inflicted on OUR families and the LGBT community.</p>
<p>- The documentary IS NOT about disagreeing with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The bumper sticker said it well: “Focus on Your Own Damn Family.” </strong></p>
<p>8: The Mormon Proposition, reflects the efforts of those that created it and us that are in it, to hold <a href="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fullsize8poster.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-433" title="fullsize8poster" src="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fullsize8poster-205x300.jpg" alt="" width="205" height="300" /></a>OUR former church accountable for the pain they knowingly inflicted on OUR families and the LGBT community.</p>
<p>- The documentary IS NOT about disagreeing with the church&#8217;s moral standards or their right to spend their money on issues they feel are important.</p>
<p>- It IS about hypocrisy; how the leaders of a church (that says it is all about “being honest in our dealings with our fellow men”), knowingly created and funded dishonest ads to promote their own moral agenda; and (by their own admissions) hid their involvement.  The Church stated in their own documents, that if the voters knew the extent of the church’s involvement, it would negatively impact the vote.</p>
<p>- This documentary does not claim that the LDS Church did this alone, even though at its strong urging, its members (only 2% of the voters) donated over 70% of the money contributed and over 90% of the volunteer efforts.</p>
<p>We know that when most members of the LDS Church see this film they will be shocked at what their leaders did, and a few scary fanatics will sternly defend their leaders rights to use lies,  deception, or ??? in the name of God.  <em>&#8220;It&#8217;s better that one man should parish (be killed) than a whole nation dwindle in unbelief.&#8221; </em>Book of Mormon 1 Nephi 4</p>
<p>We would hope the displeased members of other groups, be they Catholic, Protestant, African American, Latino, Baptist…, would hold their leaders accountable as well.</p>
<p>Anyone feeling to criticize it should see it first, as they will find as <a href="http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117941988.html?categoryid=31&amp;cs=1" target="_blank">Variety&#8217;s review</a> states: <em>&#8220;8&#8243; actually spends more time trying to humanize homosexuals than to  demonize those who hate them.</em></p>
<p>It opens in selected cities June 18th, and on VOD.  Available on DVD July 6th.</p>
<p>Watch the NEW trailer: <a href="http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/independent/8themormonproposition/" target="_blank">http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/independent/8themormonproposition/</a></p>
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		<title>Equal Opportunities for Joy and Happiness by Steve Stay</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it wrong for a Dad to want all of his children to have equal opportunities for joy and happiness?  An equally insane question is: Should consenting adults be denied the right to marry on the basis of their sexual orientation?  My reasoning goes much deeper than that of a Dad sticking up for his gay children. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Sundance-2010-8MP-094.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-428" title="Sundance 2010 8MP 094" src="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Sundance-2010-8MP-094-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a>Is it wrong for a Dad to want all of his children to have equal opportunities for joy and happiness?  An equally insane question is: Should consenting adults be denied the right to marry on the basis of their sexual orientation?  My reasoning goes much deeper than that of a Dad sticking up for his gay children.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">First, allowing same-sex marriage would strengthen the image and sanctity of marriage. At a time when divorce rates and unwed heterosexual cohabitation are at their highest, allowing and encouraging partners to make this commitment would promote a strong family unit.  It would also create a stronger social society in which committed relationships no longer need be hidden.  Furthermore, children would be more secure in the strengthened home environment.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Secondly, it is inhumane to withdraw basic dignity to loving partners at a time of need.  Such is the case when same-sex couples find their partner in the hospital.  In a large majority of states, without the legal status of marriage, the family of the one hospitalized has total control over medical decisions and who can be with the patient.  Also denied are tax and health insurance benefits while living and rights of survivorship benefits if one passes away.  These, along with many others, add up to over 1,000 benefits and rights that are lost through denying the right to marry.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Lastly, our nation was founded on the basic principle of equal rights.  For example, “… all men are created equal…with certain unalienable rights…life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,” is found in our Declaration of Independence.  Current laws are clear that equality under the law extends to persons of all races, religions, and place of origin.  Sadly, the United States of America has a tainted heritage of racial and gender abuses.  Applying the same rights and protections to men and women regardless of their sexual identity would honorably complete our promise of equality.</p>
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		<title>I Love You, It’s OK. I Love You.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Linda W. Stay shares her experience of discovering that her son is gay and how, as then a devout Mormon, she was moved to respond. Linda is featured in the documentary "8: The Mormon Proposition" [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-size: small;">I</span><span style="font-size: small;">t’s</span><span style="font-size: small;"> been reported</span><span style="font-size: small;"> by the America Psychological Association that up to 1 in every 10 people identify as</span><span style="font-size: small;"> being gay?</span><span style="font-size: small;"> W</span><span style="font-size: small;">hat should a parent do if  their child</span> <span style="font-size: small;">is </span><em><span style="font-size: small;">that one</span></em><span style="font-size: small;">? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">This</span><span style="font-size: small;"> is my experience of  discovering my oldest son Tyler’s secret</span><span style="font-size: small;">, and how it </span><span style="font-size: small;">impacted</span><span style="font-size: small;"> my life. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">10  years ago</span><span style="font-size: small;">,  for some unusual</span><span style="font-size: small;"> reason I awoke at 2 am, picked</span><span style="font-size: small;"> up the </span><span style="font-size: small;">phone,</span><span style="font-size: small;"> and heard</span><span style="font-size: small;"> two male voices, one of  which was my sons, obviously talking to </span><span style="font-size: small;">someone</span><span style="font-size: small;"> he had met online</span><span style="font-size: small;">. </span><span style="font-size: small;">I was horrified, devastated,  and angry!  My ‘knee-jerk’ reaction was to storm down the stairs to  scream and shake some sense into him.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;"> Here I was in  the midst of a horrific divorce, having recently fled our small </span><span style="font-size: small;">town in Idaho, literally  taking</span><span style="font-size: small;"> my  children from their beds at 4 am to escape a volatile situation, while  at the same time fighting a life threatening brain tumor.  How could  Tyler do this to me?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Through my 18-year abusive  marriage, Tyler was my right hand, my rock.  He was kind and tender t</span><span style="font-size: small;">o the younger children, </span><span style="font-size: small;">brig</span><span style="font-size: small;">ht, talented, an over  achiever who </span><span style="font-size: small;">excelled in everything he did.  He had sacrificed so much when  we drove away that night, leaving his senior year leadership position,  the starring role in the play, the jazz choir and his Latin ballroom  partner and coach with whom he held a world ranking.  He was a model  child, what every mother would hope for in a son….  I knew he was  different.  He had an amazing spirit and I was sure God sent him</span><span style="font-size: small;"> to me as my angel.  I </span><span style="font-size: small;">believed he would </span><span style="font-size: small;">someday </span><span style="font-size: small;">be the prophet</span><span style="font-size: small;"> of my church</span><span style="font-size: small;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">What  do I do</span><span style="font-size: small;">?   A</span><span style="font-size: small;">s </span><span style="font-size: small;">an extremely</span><span style="font-size: small;"> devout,</span><span style="font-size: small;"> proud, 5</span><sup><span style="font-size: xx-small;">th</span></sup><span style="font-size: small;"> generation Mormon, I could  not</span><span style="font-size: small;"> recall ever being taught how to deal with this situation.</span><span style="font-size: small;"> </span><span style="font-size: small;">So</span><span style="font-size: small;"> i</span><span style="font-size: small;">n my moment of terror, I fel</span><span style="font-size: small;">l to my knees.  “God, help  me find the words.  Please </span><span style="font-size: small;">don’t</span><span style="font-size: small;"> let me screw this up.  Do not let me say the  wrong thing…  You had better intervene here because I just want to tear  into him!”  I was reeling; my body was shaking as I made my way down the  stairs.  The instant I opened the family room door, he turned, his face  full of fear as he abruptly hung up the phone.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I  motioned for him to come to the couch.  As we sat down a peaceful  feeling took over.  I felt loving arms embrace us both and I heard  someone else’s words   saying, “I love you. </span><span style="font-size: small;">It’s</span><span style="font-size: small;"> okay.  I love you.”  We sat  together, with what every fiber of my being knew was God, enfolded in  His arms.  We cried.  Engulfed in the purest love I had ever  experienced, that moment lasted for hours… with the only words spoken,  “I love you, it’s okay, </span><span style="font-size: small;">I</span><span style="font-size: small;"> love you</span><span style="font-size: small;">.”</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I wish I had I completely  transformed in those moments, with total acceptance of my son’s  homosexuality.  No, Tyler endur</span><span style="font-size: small;">ed days, weeks, and months of my</span><span style="font-size: small;"> probin</span><span style="font-size: small;">g, bombarding him with</span><span style="font-size: small;">,</span><span style="font-size: small;"> “</span><span style="font-size: small;">Are you sure it’s not a  phase? </span><span style="font-size: small;">What  about your girlfriend?</span><span style="font-size: small;"> Is this because of your dad?  Did I rely on you too much?   On and on I tried to make some sense of it…</span> <span style="font-size: small;">to make it fit, but there was  no place in my religious reality for it to go.  Yet I kept remembering  Gods words, I love you, it is okay.  He knew my son … all of him… and  now, so did </span><span style="font-size: small;">I</span><span style="font-size: small;">.</span></p>
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<p>Linda Williams Stay is currently working on a new book, that will share her emotional journey as a former devout Mormon mother of  two gay children who becomes an avid accidental activist for their  rights.  Her family is featured in the documentary &#8220;8: The Mormon  Proposition&#8221; which has put on the heat to get the book done.  Subscribe to her blog <a href="http://www.MomsForEquality.com">www.MomsForEquality.com</a>, to stay posted on her progress, receive new content and updates about the documentary.  Please share this post in its entirety.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>You may have noticed the new addition “Dads for Equality” to my blogs title, which reflects my dear husband Steve’s acceptance to visually and vocally join me here.  As a point of clarification, I would like to point out the part Steve has played in my journey.  If it were not for him, I would probably [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/paradepic-by-sltrib.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-413" title="paradepic by sltrib" src="http://www.gayequalitycivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/paradepic-by-sltrib-300x231.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="231" /></a>You may have noticed the new addition “Dads for Equality” to my blogs title, which reflects my dear husband Steve’s acceptance to visually and vocally join me here.  As a point of clarification, I would like to point out the part Steve has played in my journey.  If it were not for him, I would probably not be doing much in the LGBT community.  His support and encouragement in addressing the issues rose by our communities and the Mormon Church, and taking a vocal and visible stand against the inequalities, is what got “me” here; rather is what got “us” here.</p>
<p>Steve has a powerful perspective on the issue in that he was very homophobic in his teens and early adult years.  His journey out of homophobia started with the suicide of a young gay brother-in-law and Steve’s experience in giving the closing prayer at his funeral.  It took him years to fully reconcile his opinions regarding gay issues and arrive where he was when we met ten years ago.  Steve has risked much in choosing to stand up for his gay step-children’s rights at the peril of his relationship with his biological children, parents, business associates and friends. (Primarily over speaking out against the Mormon Church’s position and then resigning his membership.)</p>
<p>Dad’s standing up for their gay children is sadly, very rare.  Most gay men we talk to gave up hoping for that long ago.  In our community, few men seem &#8220;man enough&#8221; to accept their child&#8217;s homosexuality.  As you continue to visit the blog, I know you will grow to love him—as I do.</p>
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