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&lt;div class="mainauthorstyle"&gt;by NAFEEZ MOSADDEQ AHMED&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="mainauthorstyle"&gt;(&lt;a href="http://crisisofcivilization.com/occupy-planet-earth-resisting-the-militarisation-of-state-power/"&gt;original article&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="mainauthorstyle"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="main-text"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Viva L’Occupation&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Occupy Movement is currently the most vocal manifestation of  public resistance and civil disobedience to hit the West since the 60s.  In turn, it has elicited a concerted and in some ways unprecedented  militarisation of state violence. In the US, the deployment of tear gas,  pepper-spray and rubber bullets has deliberately brutalised peaceful,  civilian protestors – purely in the name of restoring ‘civil order’.  More than ever, the insistence by people on reclaiming public spaces in  the name of opposing the injustice and inequality meted out by the  proverbial “1 per cent” is unpeeling the mask of the democratic state,  to reveal the unrestrained monopoly of wealth and weapons on which its  power is premised.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unlike previous twentieth century protests, the Occupy Movement is  distinguished by its genuine spontaneity, its leaderless dynamic, and  its organic global proliferation through the streets of major industrial  cities in the North. The driving force of Occupy, however, is not just  the escalating global economic recession, although the latter’s role in  galvanising grievances shouldn’t be underestimated. Rather, the  determination of citizens to occupy strategic public spaces is inspired  by a convergence of public perceptions.&lt;br /&gt;
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The majority of people now hold views about Western governments and  the nature of power that would’ve made them social pariahs ten or twenty  years ago. The majority are now &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/25/washington/25view.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin"&gt;sceptical of the Iraq War&lt;/a&gt;; the majority want &lt;a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/28/cnn-poll-support-for-afghanistan-war-at-all-time-low/"&gt;troops out of Afghanistan&lt;/a&gt;; the majority resent the banks and financial sector and &lt;a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/127226/americans-confidence-banks-remains-historiclow.aspx"&gt;blame them for the financial crisis&lt;/a&gt;;  most people are now aware of environmental issues, more than ever  before, and despite denialist confusion promulgated by elements of  fossil fuel industries, the &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/16/climate-change-poll-american-global-warming_n_966214.html"&gt;majority in the US&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jan/31/public-belief-climate-change"&gt;Britain are deeply concerned about global warming&lt;/a&gt;; most people are &lt;a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/multipartyism_in_american_poli.php?nr=1"&gt;wary of conventional party politics&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/two-in-five-shun-three-main-political-parties-1686268.html"&gt;disillusioned with the mainstream parliamentary system&lt;/a&gt;,  due to the continuation of scandal after scandal. In other words, on a  whole range of issues, there has been a massive popular shift in public  opinion toward a progressive critique of the current political economic  system. It is, of course, largely subliminal, not carefully worked out,  and lacks a coherent vision for what needs to be done – but there can be  little doubt that this shift has happened, and is deepening.&lt;br /&gt;
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People are increasingly disenchanted with prevailing socio-political  and economic structures, and they are hungry for alternatives. Yet they  see none readily available, no existing mechanism which allows their  voices to be truly heard – what left to do, then, beyond simply  occupying public space in an effort to, somehow, reclaim power?&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Civil Contingencies: State-Preparations for Counter-Insurgency&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Yet as the global economic recession began to kick in since 2008, the  “1 per cent” – or elements thereof – were well aware that one of the  immediate consequences would be citizens taking to the streets. And they  were preparing for it.&lt;br /&gt;
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In late 2008, an &lt;a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/3526645/Citigroup-says-gold-could-rise-above-2000-next-year-as-world-unravels.html"&gt;internal client memo&lt;/a&gt;  from US bank and Federal Reserve member Citigroup, authored by chief  technical strategist Tom Fitzpatrick, warned unequivocally of “continued  financial deterioration, causing further economic deterioration, with  the risk of a feedback loop.” This will “lead to political instability…  Some leaders are now at record levels of unpopularity. There is a risk  of domestic unrest, starting with strikes because people are feeling  disenfranchised.”&lt;br /&gt;
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What to do? One answer to that question was put out by the &lt;a href="http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/Pubs/Display.Cfm?pubID=890"&gt;US Army Strategic Studies Institute&lt;/a&gt;  in December that year, in a report urging the US military to prepare  for a “violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States” provoked  by “unforeseen economic collapse”, “loss of functioning political and  legal order,” or “purposeful domestic resistance and insurgency”, among  other threats. The report warned that Department of Defense resources  may need to be put “at the disposal of civil authorities to contain and  reverse violent threats to domestic tranquillity” – including “the use  of military force… against hostile groups inside the United States.” The  noble aim of such state militarisation is, of course, to “restore  public order and protect vulnerable populations” – from themselves, it  would appear.&lt;br /&gt;
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Similarly, in the UK since 2004 the government has held extraordinary emergency powers granted under the little-known &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/jan/07/politics.terrorism"&gt;Civil Contingencies Act&lt;/a&gt;.  The Act paves the way for the rise of totalitarian state power. Under  the powers enabled by the Act, the government can unilaterally decree a  state of emergency at its own discretion without public consultation or  parliamentary approval. Once a state of emergency is declared, all  manner of powers can come into play. Ministers can introduce new laws,  “emergency regulations”, by Royal Prerogative without recourse to  parliament. These laws can include anything from destroying or  confiscating property, banning protests and public assemblies of any  kind, instituting curfews, prohibiting travel, deploying the army on  British soil, sealing off whole cities, shutting down websites,  censoring media, and so on. Worse still, the state could classify  whatever it wants as new criminal offences.&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that the Act has nothing to do with responding to real emergencies. According to the journal of the &lt;a href="http://www.bapcojournal.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/886/Civil_Contingencies_Act:_safeguarding_Britain_or_simply_hot_air_.html"&gt;British Association of Public Safety Communication Officials&lt;/a&gt;,  the government has “no clear direction or dedicated budget and a  complete lack of Act-specific assessment” relevant to actually preparing  the country for concrete national emergencies or disaster scenarios.  They rightly ask, “If the Government is truly committed to protecting  the nation, why are Ministers not using the powers provided by the Civil  Contingencies Act to proactively monitor the true state of preparedness  across the country?”&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;The New Transnational Class War&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This is a good question, because the bulk of Western government  preparation for ‘civil contingencies’ has focused overwhelmingly on  centralisation and consolidation of state military and police powers.&amp;nbsp;  Why is this? For an idea of the kind of hopelessly regressive thinking  that takes place at defence establishment level, a few excerpts from  this choice Ministry of Defence report from 2007 are worth  contemplating. The report, drawn-up by planners at the MoD’s Defence  Concepts and Doctrines Centre – a supposedly advanced military  think-tank which plans for future trends – points out that by 2035,  world population is likely to grow to 8.5 billion, with less developed  countries accounting for 98 per cent of this growth. The report  acknowledges that this massive population growth will occur in the  context of massive global stress related to simultaneous environmental,  energy and economic crises.&lt;br /&gt;
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Intriguingly, the report focuses on a “youth bulge”, with some 87 per  cent of people under the age of 25 inhabiting the less developed South.  In particular, it notes that the population of the Middle East will  increase by 132 per cent, and of sub-Saharan Africa by 81 per cent.  These are predominantly Muslim regions. Hence the report warns of a  danger that escalating global crises will fuel a rise in Muslim  militancy: “The expectations of growing numbers of young people [in  these regions] many of whom will be confronted by the prospect of  endemic unemployment… are unlikely to be met.” Growing resentment among  the rising numbers of young people in these regions toward their  undemocratic regimes will be channelled through “political militancy,  including radical political Islam whose concept of Umma, the global  Islamic community, and resistance to capitalism may lie uneasily in an  international system based on nation-states and global market forces.”  But the report doesn’t stop there. It goes further in pointing out a  danger of radicalization not only in the South, but also in the North,  and warns of a global middle class revolution: “The middle classes could  become a revolutionary class, taking the role envisaged for the  proletariat by Marx.” This could occur on a transnational scale, due to  an increasing global divide between a super-rich elite and the middle  classes, as well as the rise of an urban underclass, in which case: “The  world’s middle classes might unite, using access to knowledge,  resources and skills to shape transnational processes in their own class  interest.” Curiously prescient – if a little off in terms of dates (24  years off, to be precise).&lt;br /&gt;
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Let’s take a step back for a moment and reflect on this extraordinary  document. It not only problematises population growth amongst  particular religious and ethnic groups – it demonises &lt;i&gt;all forms of potential resistance to prevailing global political economic structures across racial, national and class lines&lt;/i&gt;. And it does this because it is &lt;i&gt;symptom-oriented&lt;/i&gt;  – it offers a reactionary militarised response to certain surface  symptoms rather than root structural causes related to the organisation  of the global system.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;The End of History is Nigh&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The subliminal, unstated ideological assumption of this sort of  analysis is simply this: the current global political economic order  must be sustained, maintained, perpetuated at any cost; it cannot be  permitted to undergo deep-seated structural reforms, because it is  already perfect – we have already arrived at Francis Fukuyama’s &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.wesjones.com/eoh.htm"&gt;End of History&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;,  the “unabashed victory of political and economic liberalism” in the  West, and “the end point of mankind’s ideological evolution”,  discounting all possibility of alternatives to neoliberal capitalism.  Therefore, resistance against the neoliberal system is illegitimate, and  deserves to be crushed without remorse.&lt;br /&gt;
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But Fukuyama was dead wrong. We are currently facing not simply one crisis, but a converging &lt;a href="http://nafeez.blogspot.com/2011/02/great-unravelling-tunisia-egypt-and.html"&gt;multiplicity of global crises&lt;/a&gt;  – the global financial crisis, the global water crisis, the global food  crisis, the crises of terror, war &amp;amp; militarisation – each of which  is merely an interconnected symptom of a deeper Crisis of Civilization.  Even the International Energy Agency now warns that we have a maximum of  five years before we enter an unpredictable era of &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/nov/09/fossil-fuel-infrastructure-climate-change"&gt;dangerous, irreversible climate change&lt;/a&gt;  heading toward an uninhabitable planet, driven by a global industrial  machine which privileges unlimited economic growth for the benefit of a  tiny elite minority, against the needs of the vast majority of the human  population.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Arab Spring in the Middle East and the Occupy Movement across the  West are, in this context, populist outbursts of resistance against  planetary-level human suicide; the beginnings of the death-throes of an  overarching civilizational form that is simply not working. The very  nature of our civilization – given its accelerating trajectory toward  ecological and economic self-destruction – is now in question; its  ideology of nature and life, its value system, and how these are  inherently linked to its socio-political, economic and cultural forms.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yet what we are facing is not simply a process of civilizational  collapse, but more fundamentally, a process of civilizational  transition, the outcome of which remains to be seen. For the first time  in human history, we face &lt;a href="http://ceasefiremagazine.co.uk/arts-culture/the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-the-rise-of-the-post-carbon-era/"&gt;a civilizational crisis of truly planetary proportions&lt;/a&gt;.  With it we are witnessing the self-destruction and decline of an  exploitative, regressive and harmful industrial civilizational form  within the next few decades, and certainly well within this century.  With all this, we have an unprecedented historic opportunity, as this  regressive civilizational form undergoes its protracted collapse, to  push for alternative ways of living, doing and being – economically,  politically, culturally, ethically, even spiritually – which are  potentially far more conducive to human prosperity and well-being than  hitherto imaginable.&lt;br /&gt;
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That can only be done if we galvanise the energy and excitement of  the Occupy Movement to develop firstly, coherent critical diagnoses of  the true nature of the problem; and on that basis, coherent alternative  frameworks of action. We need to work concertedly to demonstrate the  efficacy and superiority of alternative social, political, economic,  cultural, and ethical models of life. Not only do we need to develop our  thinking and action on this, we need to develop innovative ways to  show-case these ideas, to popularise them, and to educate communities  and institutions. Most critically, we need to explore how communities,  particularly those who are most marginalised and disenfranchised, can  act on these models &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt;, to begin creating real change at the  grassroots, from the ground up. How can we work together to develop more  participatory forms of economic exchange? How can we pool local and  community resources to become more resilient to energy shocks – by  becoming more self-sufficient in decentralized renewable energy  production? How can we learn new skills so that we can grow our own food  and be less dependent on the unequal and temperamental international  networks of industrial agribusiness? How can we build new  community-level political and cultural structures that render top-down  state-military structures increasingly irrelevant?&lt;br /&gt;
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Taking to the streets and occupying public spaces are important seeds  of direct action, but from them should blossom the models of social  transformation and empowerment that the 99 per cent can begin exploring,  in open dialogue with one another, and even with the 1 per cent whose  monopolies we are protesting. For it is imperative to ensure that these  popular energies develop accurate diagnoses of our predicament, so that  our activism can be pointed in the right direction – not just at the 1  per cent, but at the wider political, economic, ideological and ethical  system which enables their very existence, and which thus empowers the  dysfunctional pathway on which we’re currently heading.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dr. Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed&lt;/b&gt; is Executive Director of the &lt;a href="http://www.iprd.org.uk/"&gt;Institute for Policy Research &amp;amp; Development&lt;/a&gt;. He blogs at &lt;a href="http://nafeez.blogspot.com/"&gt;The Cutting Edge&lt;/a&gt;. His latest book is &lt;a href="http://www.plutobooks.com/display.asp?K=9780745330532&amp;amp;"&gt;A User’s Guide to the Crisis of Civilization: And How to Save It&lt;/a&gt; (Pluto/Macmillan, 2010), which has been adapted into a critically-acclaimed documentary feature film, &lt;a href="http://www.crisisofcivilization.com/"&gt;The Crisis of Civilization&lt;/a&gt; (2011). &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-6174848887919456524?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/6174848887919456524/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2011/12/occupy-planet-earth.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/6174848887919456524?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/6174848887919456524?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2011/12/occupy-planet-earth.html" title="Occupy Planet Earth" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CkMFRnY5eCp7ImA9WhRRGEk.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-5604632080257229839</id><published>2011-12-02T07:38:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-02T07:40:17.820-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2011-12-02T07:40:17.820-08:00</app:edited><title>Hedge Funds Allow the Ultra-Rich to Gamble with Our Money</title><content type="html">&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="usertext-body"&gt;&lt;div class="md"&gt;The following is an anonymous post from a hedge funds analyst who supports Occupy Wall Street. Here is the link where I originally found it: &lt;a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/muqzv/wall_of_text_i_work_in_wall_street_and_work_in/"&gt;http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/muqzv/wall_of_text_i_work_in_wall_street_and_work_in/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I work in Wall Street and work in hedge fund analysis. I'm the only person in my office who supports OWS.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm writing this in hopes that the OWS movement can have a better  understanding of the hedge fund industry and the financial markets. With  OWS being the zeitgeist of current politics, I think it's important to  know how exactly the hedge funds, along with the financial markets are  destroying the 99%.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hedge funds. These guys are basically the vehicles of choice for  ultra-rich people to get into the financial markets, besides family  offices and private wealth managers.  What are hedge funds?  They are  funds that have a 1-5 million deposit minimum, cater to the mega-rich,  and can invest in anything without regulatory restrictions, use leverage  to pump up their exposure by 15x, and pretty much eat up a vast  majority of the industry's profits.&lt;br /&gt;
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These guys invest in EVERYTHING. Instruments you've heard of -  stocks, bonds, forwards, futures, currencies, and instruments that you,  me, or anyone else have never even heard of, much less know anything  about: commodity future swaptions, FRA/OIS swaps, CLOs, exotic future  options, p-notes, index/commodity/equity exposures, and a huge array of  OTC (over-the-counter) instruments that no regular investor would ever  have access to.&lt;br /&gt;
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Why I bring this up: the financial markets are rigged. 99% of the  investing public has access to services such as basic brokerages,  401k/IRA's, mutual funds, pension plans, etc. Some of these services,  especially pension funds, will invest into hedge funds, who take an  additional 2 and 20 (meaning 2% of assets plus 20% of capital gains).&lt;br /&gt;
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What this means is that if you go any of the traditional retail  routes, you are utterly screwed facing off against the hedge funds.&lt;br /&gt;
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First, you are paying exorbitant fees. Commissions on every stock  trade. Mutual fund managers taking a cut - an annual % cut, as well as a  % per profit cut. If these managers (i.e. pension plans) invest in  another fund, that fund is also taking another % cut. You're down 2% the  minute you invest your money.&lt;br /&gt;
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Next, if you're doing the investing yourself, you're paying  ridiculous spreads. The bid/ask spread of a stock will cause you to be  down another 2-3% the minute you buy the stock. For example, if you're  buying a share of company at $4.25, you can sell back at only $4.15.&lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, you have absolutely no chance in terms of access to the  best services. Hedge funds have a direct line to investment bank's  institutional brokerage teams - these are the guys that spend day and  night sucking up to hedge funds, trying to get them the best deals at  the cheapest rates. This means that while you're buying stocks and  bonds, hedge funds are getting special rights, warrants, sweetheart  deals, private placement deals,  options, bigger discounts on bonds, and  much better bulk commission rates and lower spreads on stocks. If  you're paying 4.25$ for a 4.15$ stock, they are paying something like  4.16$. And they are eating alive your profits because when the stock  goes up to $4.30, they can activate another warrant to purchase 20m  shares at $4.25, diluting the value of your shares.&lt;br /&gt;
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Next, you lack information and exposure. You have no idea what is  going on in the market besides what you see on the news - while hedge  funds have analysts working around the clock and a bunch of service  providers who give minute-by-minute analysis of their portfolio  opportunities and weaknesses in all markets with exposures to nearly  everything. Meaning, if there is an opportunity in the real estate  market (i.e. legislation), it might take you weeks to get in - hedge  funds will have gotten in the minute the legislation was passed.  Furthermore, when IPOs come out for companies, hedge funds get top  billing on the primary market shares - which means investment banks are  selling directly to them. Once the secondary market becomes available,  hedge funds are up 15-20% on these investments, sometimes within hours.&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, you have no capital compared to these hedge funds. The  people who invest in these hedge funds are not just the 1%, they are the  0.1%. These are the guys with 500million dollar bank accounts and the  ability to do whatever the fuck they want. Hedge funds know this, and  they invest without having to care about whether their clients can pay  the rent or send their kids to college. All of that is irrelevant. Their  sole purpose is to earn money, not to mitigate risk.&lt;br /&gt;
What does this all mean? It means the hedge fund industry is making a  gigantic proportion of the profits. The top .1% is earning nearly half  of the profits in the industry, through not just hedge funds, but other  similar vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
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The finance industry is a complete scam, designed to funnel money  from the 99% investing public into the hands of the top .1%. Sure, some  of you will make good money, but stastically, the rest of us will lose,  and who is feeding off us? Hedge funds, and the .1%. You have better  odds going to a casino and playing slots, the worst-paying game in the  house, but still better than the stock market.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, the government is in bed with the financial industry. Tax  loopholes give hedge funds and other top players the ability to write  off losses and not pay taxes on gains for years at a time. For income  they derive from the hedge fund (profits), they pay only 15%, rather  than the 35% income tax charged to most people earning 80k and above.   Meanwhile, you have to pay taxes for not just your own income but also  capital gains.&lt;br /&gt;
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The worst part by far is that the government "encourages" you to put  your money into your 401k through 'tax exemptions', which basically puts  your money with the lowest tier of the financial industry - pension  funds, retail wealth managers, and retail asset managers. These guys  have shit strategies like long-only or domestic equity (which means they  only invest in American stocks), and have nowhere near the capability  and reach of hedge funds. These guys are even more likely to lose your  money than you are, and even worse is they will take a 2.35% cut while  doing so. And you get penalized when you try to take your money out  early. How f***ed up is that.&lt;br /&gt;
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In other words, if you aren't in the .1%, you have no access to the  derivatives markets, you have no access to the special deals that hedge  funds and other wealthy investors get, and you have no access to the  resources, information, strategic services, tax exemptions, and capital  that the top .1% is getting. &lt;br /&gt;
If you have any questions about what some of the concepts above mean,  ask and I will try my best to answer. I'm a first-year analyst on wall  street, and based on what I see day in and day out, I support the OWS  movement 100%.&lt;br /&gt;
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The finance industry funnels money from the masses to the  ultra rich, through vehicles like hedge funds which dominate all of the  financial markets.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-5604632080257229839?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/5604632080257229839/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2011/12/hedge-funds-allow-ultra-rich-to-gamble.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/5604632080257229839?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/5604632080257229839?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2011/12/hedge-funds-allow-ultra-rich-to-gamble.html" title="Hedge Funds Allow the Ultra-Rich to Gamble with Our Money" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEIHQnY-eyp7ImA9WhdUFks.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-1114739345376636383</id><published>2011-10-03T09:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-03T10:22:13.853-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2011-10-03T10:22:13.853-07:00</app:edited><title>List of Proposed Demands for Congress by the Occupy Wall Street Protesters</title><content type="html">&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;October 3, 2011 (&lt;a href="http://coupmedia.org/occupywallstreet/occupy-wall-street-official-demands-2009"&gt;original article&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
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LIST OF PROPOSED "DEMANDS FOR CONGRESS"&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt; CONGRESS PASS HR 1489 ("RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT" &lt;a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1489"&gt;http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1489&lt;/a&gt; ). THIS REINSTATES MANY PROVISIONS OF THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act&lt;/a&gt;  --- Wiki entry summary: The repeal of provisions of the Glass–Steagall  Act of 1933 by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act in 1999 effectively removed  the separation that previously existed between investment banking which  issued securities and commercial banks which accepted deposits. The  deregulation also removed conflict of interest prohibitions between  investment bankers serving as officers of commercial banks. Most  economists believe this repeal directly contributed to the severity of  the Financial crisis of 2007–2011 by allowing Wall Street investment  banking firms to gamble with their depositors' money that was held in  commercial banks owned or created by the investment firms. Here's detail  on repeal in 1999 and how it happened: &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act#Repeal"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act#Repeal&lt;/a&gt; .&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://coupmedia.org/occupy-vote.html"&gt;Vote Here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt; USE CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE  FEDERAL AGENCIES FULLY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE THE WALL STREET  CRIMINALS who clearly broke the law and helped cause the 2008 financial  crisis in the following notable cases: (insert list of the most clear  cut criminal actions). There is a pretty broad consensus that there is a  clear group of people who got away with millions / billions illegally  and haven't been brought to justice. Boy would this be long overdue and  cathartic for millions of Americans. It would also be a shot across the  bow for the financial industry. If you watch the solidly researched and  awared winning documentary film "Inside Job" that was narrated by Matt  Damon (pretty brave Matt!) and do other research, it wouldn't take long  to develop the list.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://coupmedia.org/occupy-vote.html"&gt;Vote Here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt; CONGRESS ENACT LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY BY REVERSING THE  EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION which essentially  said corporations can spend as much as they want on elections. The  result is that corporations can pretty much buy elections. Corporations  should be highly limited in ability to contribute to political campaigns  no matter what the election and no matter what the form of media. This  legislation should also RE-ESTABLISH THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES IN THE U.S. SO  THAT POLITICAL CANDIDATES ARE GIVEN EQUAL TIME FOR FREE AT REASONABLE  INTERVALS IN DAILY PROGRAMMING DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON. The same should  extend to other media.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://coupmedia.org/occupy-vote.html"&gt;Vote Here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt; CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND  CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE &amp;amp; CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES  AND ENACT A PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE. No more GE paying  zero or negative taxes. Pass the Buffet Rule on fair taxation so the  rich pay their fair share. (If we have a really had a good negotiating  position and have the place surrounded, we could actually dial up taxes  on millionaires, billionaires and corporations even higher...back to  what they once were in the 50's and 60's. &lt;a href="http://coupmedia.org/occupy-vote.html"&gt;Vote Here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt; CONGRESS COMPLETELY REVAMP THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION and  staff it at all levels with proven professionals who get the job done  protecting the integrity of the marketplace so citizens and investors  are both protected. This agency needs a large staff and needs to be  well-funded. It's currently has a joke of a budget and is run by Wall  St. insiders who often leave for high ticket cushy jobs with the  corporations they were just regulating. Hmmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt; CONGRESS PASS SPECIFIC AND EFFECTIVE LAWS LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF  LOBBYISTS AND ELIMINATING THE PRACTICE OF LOBBYISTS WRITING LEGISLATION  THAT ENDS UP ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://coupmedia.org/occupy-vote.html"&gt;Vote Here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt; CONGRESS PASSING "Revolving Door Legislation" LEGISLATION ELIMINATING  THE ABILITY OF FORMER GOVERNMENT REGULATORS GOING TO WORK FOR  CORPORATIONS THAT THEY ONCE REGULATED. So, you don't get to work at the  FDA for five years playing softball with Pfizer and then go to work for  Pfizer making $195,000 a year. While they're at it, Congress should pass  specific and effective laws to enforce strict judicial standards of  conduct in matters concerning conflicts of interest. So long as judges  are culled from the ranks of corporate attorneys the 1% will retain  control.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://coupmedia.org/occupy-vote.html"&gt;Vote Here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt; ELIMINATE "PERSONHOOD" LEGAL STATUS FOR CORPORATIONS. The film "The  Corporation" has a great section on how corporations won "personhood  status". &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SuUzmqBewg"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SuUzmqBewg&lt;/a&gt;  . Fast-forward to 2:20. It'll blow your mind. The 14th amendment was  supposed to give equal rights to African Americans. It said you "can't  deprive a person of life, liberty or property without due process of  law". Corporation lawyers wanted corporations to have more power so they  basically said "corporations are people." Amazingly, between 1890 and  1910 there were 307 cases brought before the court under the 14th  amendment. 288 of these brought by corporations and only 19 by African  Americans. 600,000 people were killed to get rights for people and then  judges applied those rights to capital and property while stripping them  from people. It's time to set this straight.&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://coupmedia.org/occupy-vote.html"&gt; Vote Here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-1114739345376636383?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/1114739345376636383/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2011/10/list-of-proposed-demands-for-congress.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/1114739345376636383?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/1114739345376636383?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2011/10/list-of-proposed-demands-for-congress.html" title="List of Proposed Demands for Congress by the Occupy Wall Street Protesters" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A0EHRH8yfSp7ImA9WhdUEk0.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-2248520467840250031</id><published>2011-09-28T04:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-28T04:33:55.195-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2011-09-28T04:33:55.195-07:00</app:edited><title>The Relationship Between Growth and Debt</title><content type="html">&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;The following&amp;nbsp; article was originally posted &lt;a href="http://ourfiniteworld.com/2011/07/11/the-link-between-peak-oil-and-peak-debt-part-1/#more-430"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Relationship Between Growth and Debt&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I have talked many times about the need for economic growth, in order  to make our current system of borrowing money, and paying back loans  with interest, work on the extensive basis that it is used today.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_3952" style="width: 458px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/two-views-of-future-growth.png"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="size-full wp-image-3952 " height="300" src="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/two-views-of-future-growth.png?w=448&amp;amp;h=300" title="Two views of future growth" width="448" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;Figure 2. Two views of future growth&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;As long as the economy is expanding, as in Scenario 1, businesses  feel confident that their future prospects will be better than they are  today. As a result, businesses will borrow funds for new equipment and  will be fairly confident they can pay back the loans with interest in  the future. Governments will also borrow, knowing that they will likely  have higher tax collections in the future. Because of these higher tax  collections, the governments can expect to pay back the debt plus the  interest on the debt.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Scenario 1, even common citizens feel that debt is a reasonable  prospect. If the individual loses his/her job, there is a good chance of  getting a new one. With prospects for better wages &amp;nbsp;in the future (or  at least no worse wages in the future), it makes sense to take out an  automobile loan, or a student loan, or even a loan on a new home.&lt;br /&gt;
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If the economy is expanding, promising Social Security benefits to  future retirees looks like a safe prospect, as does promising Medicare  benefits. Just as a “rising tide lifts all boats,” an expanding economic  circle leaves room for more and more types of payments (Figure 3).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_4303" style="width: 447px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/promises_growth.png"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="size-full wp-image-4303 " height="203" src="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/promises_growth.png?w=437&amp;amp;h=203" title="Promises_growth" width="437" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;Figure 3. A growing economy makes allows room for interest and other payments, without crimping budgets.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;If the economy starts contracting as in Scenario 2 of Figure 2 (or  even stays the same size) then it becomes much more difficult to repay  debt with interest, and to fulfill promises of future benefits, as  illustrated in Figure 4.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_4304" style="width: 478px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/after_decline.png"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="size-full wp-image-4304" height="223" src="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/after_decline.png?w=468&amp;amp;h=223" title="After_Decline" width="468" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;Figure 4. Paying promises becomes much more difficult after economic decline.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Of course, in a contracting economy, there may still be a few  instances where debt “makes sense.” These might include very short-term  business loans, for example, covering goods in transit. They would also  include some business loans where the economic return is high enough so  the loan would make “economic sense” even if the interest rate includes a  fairly high charge for risk of default (because of the declining  economy) as part of the interest rate.&lt;br /&gt;
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This decline in the level of debt becomes a real problem for  countries, because the availability of debt tends to add to reported  GDP. For example, if a person takes out a car loan and buys a car, the  cost of the car gets added to GDP, even though the car is not yet paid  for. The availability of debt financing also makes it possible for  businesses to obtain capital for expansion, so the business can, for  example, build more cars, without waiting for sufficient profits to  accrue to have enough revenue to finance the expansion. Both of these  activities tend make it easier to increase reported GDP.&lt;br /&gt;
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What has happened in recent years, at least for the US, is that it  seems to be taking greater and greater increases in debt to create a  given increase in GDP.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;dl class="wp-caption aligncenter"&gt;&lt;dt&gt;&lt;a href="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/debt-change-to-gdp-change.png"&gt;&lt;img alt="" height="270" src="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/debt-change-to-gdp-change.png?w=448&amp;amp;h=270" title="Debt Change to GDP Change" width="448" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/dt&gt;
&lt;dd&gt;Figure 5. Relationship of change in debt (private and government combined) to change in GDP.&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt;&lt;/div&gt;This changing relationship may reflect the greater headwinds the  economy is encountering, now that oil supply is tighter and oil prices  are higher.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Declining oil availability (manifested as high oil prices) tends to lead to economic contraction&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Oil &amp;nbsp;use, and energy use in general, tends to be tied to economic  growth in many ways. Clearly there is a need for oil (or another energy  product) to manufacture and transport goods, and to grow and transport  food. Given the cars, trucks, trains, and farm equipment currently in  use, it is not easy to change the dependence on oil quickly, either.&lt;br /&gt;
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James Hamilton in his paper &lt;a href="http://dss.ucsd.edu/%7Ejhamilto/oil_history.pdf"&gt;Historical Oil Shocks&lt;/a&gt;  has shown that 10 out of 11 US recessions since World War II were  preceded by oil price shocks. Charles Hall, Stephen Balogh, and David  Murphy &lt;a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1749-6632.2010.05940.x/full" title="Energy return on investment, peak oil, and the end of economic growth"&gt;have shown&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;that high oil prices tend to be correlated with recession. Robert Ayres and Benjamin Warr &lt;a href="http://www.fraw.org.uk/files/economics/ayres_2005.pdf"&gt;have analyzed&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;the  amount of work (in a physics sense) that is done by energy of various  types. Using this data, they have developed a model explaining the vast  majority of US real economic growth between 1900 and 2000, except for a  residual of about 12% after 1975.&lt;br /&gt;
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A comparison of annual increases in oil consumption with annual  increases in world GDP in constant 2005 $ shows a close correlation.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_4334" style="width: 458px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/pct-change-world-gdp-vs-oil-consumption.png"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="size-full wp-image-4334 " height="270" src="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/pct-change-world-gdp-vs-oil-consumption.png?w=448&amp;amp;h=270" title="Pct change world GDP vs oil consumption" width="448" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;Figure  6. Percent growth in world GDP vs percent growth in oil production.  World GDP in constant 2005$ from World Bank; Oil consumption from BP.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;In spite of all of this evidence, there are some who argue that it is  not clear which direction the causation goes with respect to oil supply  and economic growth–perhaps the only issue is that the world uses more  oil when it is expanding, and less oil when it is contracting. With this  belief, it is difficult to explain why oil price shocks would precede  recessions, but some economists have learned this view in the past, and  seem not to be open to looking at the evidence.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is also a question as to whether we can move quickly away from  this close relationship between oil and the economy. Vaclav Smil in &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Transitions-History-Requirements-Prospects/dp/0313381771/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1310357727&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Energy Transitions: History, Requirements and Prospects&lt;/a&gt;  has shown that because of the very large amount of built infrastructure  in place, in practice, energy transitions from one fuel to another take  a very long time–30 to 50 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of what Vaclav Smil has shown, there may be some  possibilities for short-term decoupling. For example, if car-pooling  suddenly becomes much more common, it could tend to change this  relationship. It is not clear that such a change would be fast enough,  or significant enough, to change the basic relationship, however.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Recent Debt Problems of Governments&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Recent debt problems of governments seem to be related to a  combination of (1) the tendency of high oil prices to cause recession  and (2) the additional debt the governments have tried to take on, to  stimulate the economy and to bail out failing banks and other  businesses. Part of this debt may be taken on, to try to offset the  decline in private debt.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, federal external debt started increasing more  quickly immediately after oil prices hit their peak in July 2008 (Figure  7).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_3782" style="width: 458px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/us-federal-government-debt-and-oil-price.png"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="size-full wp-image-3782 " height="270" src="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/us-federal-government-debt-and-oil-price.png?w=448&amp;amp;h=270" title="US Federal Government Debt and oil price" width="448" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;Figure 7. Average quarterly oil price and US Federal External Debt&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Even with these huge increases in federal debt, the increase in  governmental debt has not been able to offset the decline in debt held  by businesses and private citizens, as shown in Figure 1 near the top of  this post.&lt;br /&gt;
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Governments around the world have been finding this additional debt  burden increasingly difficult to handle. If nothing else, if interest  cost of this debt becomes very burdensome, unless interest rates are  very low. Furthermore, even when they do try to intervene, their debt  doesn’t have quite the right effect–their new debt may buy a new road,  but it doesn’t buy a new car for the consumer.&lt;br /&gt;
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This combination of problems–recession caused by limited oil supply,  increasing need for government debt because of shrinking private debt  and need to stimulate the economy–is likely the cause of the debt  problems that so many governments (including the US government) are  experiencing today. Many European countries are experiencing problems as  well–Greece, Portugal, and Spain, for example.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Part II&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In Part 1 of this post, I pointed out that an economy is closely  linked with the resources that underly it. Because of this, if there is  really is a limit that prevents oil supply from rising endlessly, then  there is also a limit that prevents debt from rising endlessly. I talked  about seeing a two-way link between peak oil and peak debt:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Peak oil tends to cause peak debt. This is what I discussed in &lt;a href="http://ourfiniteworld.com/2011/07/11/the-link-between-peak-oil-and-peak-debt-part-1/"&gt;Part 1&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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2.&amp;nbsp;Once debt growth peaks (shifts from growth to decline), we can  expect a feed-back loop that will tend to make post-peak oil supply  decline even more rapidly than it would otherwise.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is this second point I want to discuss today.&lt;br /&gt;
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The basic issue is that more debt tends to cause more demand, and  thus higher oil prices. At these higher oil prices, oil tends to get  pumped out more quickly than it would otherwise. But once a shift occurs  from increasing credit availability to reduced credit availability, as  it does about the time peak oil production is reached, then prices for  all types of commodities tend drop. At these lower prices, oil  production drops off more quickly than it would have otherwise.&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me elaborate a bit.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;The Cheese-Slicer Model&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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We know that there is a cycle that permits oil production, that  gradually changes over time. Professor Charles Hall has represented this  cycle with his Cheese-Slicer Model. In 1970 he shows this view:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_2205" style="width: 491px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/1970_cheese.png"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="size-full wp-image-2205" height="361" src="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/1970_cheese.png?w=481&amp;amp;h=361" title="1970_Cheese" width="481" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;Figure  1. Professor Charles Hall's cheese slicer model of the economy,  reflecting the energy needed to make energy, and other aspects of the  economy at 1970&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;As of 2030, he shows the model:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_1364" style="width: 491px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/2030_cheese.png"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="size-full wp-image-1364" height="361" src="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/2030_cheese.png?w=481&amp;amp;h=361" title="2030_cheese" width="481" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;Figure  2. Professor Charles Hall's cheese slicer model of the economy,  reflecting the energy needed to make energy, and other aspects of the  economy at 2030.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;What happens is that as we extract oil, we use some of it for  investment (top big arrow with purple and blue) and some of it for  consumption (arrows straight to the right).&lt;br /&gt;
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Over time, as the “easy to extract” resources are exhausted, we have  to use a larger portion of the oil that is extracted oil (1) to obtain  additional oil (top dark blue arrow) and also (2) to repair the  infrastructure we have built up over the years, like highways and water  supply and electric power transmission lines (medium blue arrow second  from the top). Since these arrows get bigger, there is less oil  available for discretionary investment in manufacturing facilities for  things like cars and new iPods (top red arrow).&lt;br /&gt;
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As the size of this investment arrow grows, the size of the square  orange “consumption” box gets squeezed. The size of the green arrow  pointed down, called “staples” stays relatively the same size, but the  size of the red arrow, called “discretionary” (for things like new cars,  and trips to restaurants, and vacation trips) gets smaller.&lt;br /&gt;
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With this scenario, discretionary goods and services we get from oil  energy goes down over time. This relationship holds on a percentage  basis, relative to the oil in the system. We are likely not to notice  this issue much when total oil supply is rising, because total supply  available remains fairly adequate. Even if oil supply is flat, this  downward drift may not be too noticeable, because a shift toward greater  efficiency, or a switch of some users from oil to electricity, can help  cover a small drift toward less available oil for consumption.&lt;br /&gt;
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The biggest impact of the shift shown in Figures 1 and 2 is  post-peak, when users are faced with a combination of &amp;nbsp;(1) declining oil  consumption and (2) greater percentages needed for non-discretionary  items. Thus, it is likely to be something we experience more in the  future than we have to date.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Impact of Rising Debt on the Model&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The model is set up based on the amount of energy coming through the  system. In the real world, though, there are monetary transactions  involved. These monetary transactions involved consider not only the oil  that has come through the system, but also considerable lending based  on the expectation of future energy resources and the goods they will  produce.&lt;br /&gt;
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In a situation with rising debt, people have more money to spend.  Consumers can take out an auto loan to buy an auto; investors can take  out a loan to build a new manufacturing facility, or to drill for oil  and gas. It is not necessary to wait and see how much really comes  though the cheese slicer, in terms of the materials that are generated  by the operation of the cheese slicer; it is possible to spend in  advance.&lt;br /&gt;
Because of the availability of loans, the demand for new cars (and  many other goods using oil) is higher than it would otherwise be, and  the demand for oil to operate those new cars is higher than it would be.  This keeps the price of oil higher than it otherwise would be,  convincing marginal producers that prices are high enough for their  operations. This keeps oil production higher than it would otherwise be,  enabling the use of more oil for both investment and consumption.&amp;nbsp;In a  sense, what the additional debt does is make the world look like it is  at an earlier year in Prof. Hall’s Cheese Slicer models than is really  the case.&lt;br /&gt;
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So suppose we are in 2011, but because of rising debt, it still feels  like we are in the 1991 version of the cheese slicer model. What  happens when instead of rising debt, the situation suddenly changes to  falling debt? Then many people can no longer get loans to buy new cars,  and they cannot afford to go on the vacation trips of their dreams. It  becomes more difficult for businesses to invest in new plants and  equipment.&lt;br /&gt;
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Because there is less economic activity, the price of oil drops.  Suddenly, investments in oil which previously looked profitable, no  longer look profitable. We find ourselves moving out on the years of the  cheese slicer. As long as there is some debt, it helps keep demand up.  So maybe we move rather suddenly from 1991 to 2001 in the cheese slicer  models, when we really are at 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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As debt declines, the cheese slicer model gets more and more “gummed  up.” It becomes more and more difficult to make investments, because  investment funds need to come from accumulated profits, rather than be  borrowed in advance. Potential consumer find it more difficult to buy  cars and houses and new appliances, because they have to wait until they  have accumulated funds.&lt;br /&gt;
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These reasons are the primary ones for my statement at the beginning  of the post that the switch from increasing debt to decreasing debt will  tend to make the downslope steeper.&lt;br /&gt;
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I should mention that there may be some other reasons that will also  tend to reduce people’s ability to buy oil, besides the cutback in debt.  As you will recall, the reason for the cutback in lending was related  to higher oil prices causing businesses to raise prices on many types of  goods, and requiring people to cut back on discretionary goods of all  kinds–the types of changes that go with recession (&lt;a href="http://ourfiniteworld.com/2011/07/11/the-link-between-peak-oil-and-peak-debt-part-1/"&gt;see Part 1&lt;/a&gt;).  In a finite world, oil supply shortages are likely to get worse over  time. Other non-renewable resource may also be in short supply, as  limits are reached on other resources, such as fresh water from aquifers  that replenish very slowly. These issues are likely to make the  recessionary influences worse over time. If many people are without work  because of recession, they will find it impossible to accumulate funds  to afford expensive new consumer goods. This lack of income will tend to  produce a similar effect, namely reduced demand for oil products, and a  move to lower outputs of the type expected in a later year of the  cheese slicer model.&lt;br /&gt;
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I should also note that a major cutback in debt is likely to affect  all aspects of the economy–not just oil and gas. I wrote a post in late  2008 called &lt;a href="http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4805"&gt;Impact of the Credit Crisis on the Energy Industry – Where Are We Now?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;In  it, I surveyed all of the kinds of energy, from oil to gas to coal to  uranium, and all of the prices were down, because of the credit  contraction at that time. In retrospect, we find that even electricity  use was down. US electricity generation showed a 5% dip between 2007 and  2009, instead of the 3.5% growth that might have been expected in that  two-year period, in the absence of recession.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;A Partial Offset&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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If we are moving from an expanding to a contracting resource base, saving and spending behaviors are likely also to change.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_3952" style="width: 458px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/two-views-of-future-growth.png"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="size-full wp-image-3952 " height="300" src="http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/two-views-of-future-growth.png?w=448&amp;amp;h=300" title="Two views of future growth" width="448" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;Figure 3. Two views of future growth&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;One reason for a change in savings and spending behavior is  obvious–if there are more resources to buy now than later, it might be  better to buy now while goods and services are available. Furthermore,  if the economy is really declining, money will cease to be a store of  value, in the way it is today, because less goods and services will be  produced in the future than today. In this environment, it might make  sense to spend money rather than save it, especially if it can be  invested in something of long-term value to the person with excess  funds.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a second reason for a change in savings patterns. There is a  tie between debt and savings. The debt of one person is for the most  part the savings of someone else. A bond sold by a company as financing  for its debt may end up in someone’s pension fund, or on the balance  sheet of an insurance company. To the extent that there is less in the  way of debt, there is also going to be less in the way of &amp;nbsp;savings.&lt;br /&gt;
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With peak oil, what is likely to happen is that the default rate on  existing debt will rise, so many people who own bonds (or other debt  instruments) will discover that they are worth less than they thought,  perhaps nothing. And banks and insurance companies and pension plans  will discover that quite a few of their assets aren’t what they  thought–they will never be repaid with interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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In this environment, the world will change. Insurance companies are  likely to stop selling annuities, because they really can’t make good on  long-term promises any more, if there are too many debt defaults.  Pension plans will become uncommon. People will figure out that they  really can’t save very well for retirement–they will have to depend on  their friends or relatives, or perhaps a government program funded by  taxes.&lt;br /&gt;
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In this environment, buying patterns will change. People with money  may decide to take a vacation trip now, rather than waiting until later.  They may make other choices as well–they may try to buy more land, for  example. It may be that the price of land for farming is bid up. &amp;nbsp;They  may buy tools for working the land. With these new buying patterns, some  of the demand for oil and other fuels may return.&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason why this activity is not likely to completely offset the  current bidding up of energy prices with debt is because quite a bit of  current debt may ultimately vanish as worthless. It was created using  assumptions that held at a different time–back when the economy was  fueled with cheap oil–but are not valid any more. Prices of homes have  dropped, so huge mortgages on them no longer make sense. Bonds from  companies (and &amp;nbsp;countries) in financial distress will not be paid back,  especially if we stumble back into recession. We don’t know yet how this  will play out, but we can see distress signs around the world,  suggesting that more defaults are not far away.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-2248520467840250031?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/2248520467840250031/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2011/09/relationship-between-growth-and-debt.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/2248520467840250031?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/2248520467840250031?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2011/09/relationship-between-growth-and-debt.html" title="The Relationship Between Growth and Debt" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0YBQHw_eip7ImA9Wx5UFEw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-5041556523131850223</id><published>2010-10-17T22:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-10-18T07:12:31.242-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-10-18T07:12:31.242-07:00</app:edited><title>Justice for Tristan Jack-O-Lantern</title><content type="html">I have a sort of running joke with a friend on Facebook regarding Justin Bieber, and after she posted this &lt;a href="http://www.jsyk.com/2010/10/15/justin-bieber-gets-carved-into-a-pumpkin-its-a-bieb-er-lanter/"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; on my wall to someone who made a Jack-O-Lantern of him, I got curious as to how people made portrait pumpkins. After a brief internet search, I found two decent links &lt;a href="http://notions.okuda.ca/2006/10/27/portrait-pumpkin-carving/"&gt;(1)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.cool-pumpkins.geraldgore.com/portraits.htm"&gt;(2)&lt;/a&gt; that described the process, and decided to try making my own. As I'm currently organizing a benefit concert for my friend &lt;a href="http://justicefortristan.org/"&gt;Tristan Anderson&lt;/a&gt;, I thought I'd try doing him. Here are the results...&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/TLvdY8AOteI/AAAAAAAAAB4/yPVG89OrGzg/s1600/tristan-1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="300" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/TLvdY8AOteI/AAAAAAAAAB4/yPVG89OrGzg/s400/tristan-1.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;The websites said that with the lights on it would look pretty bad. Still, I was surprised when I finally put a candle inside and turned down the lights.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/TLvd-8vcoMI/AAAAAAAAAB8/EyCO-0rpu34/s1600/tristan-2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="300" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/TLvd-8vcoMI/AAAAAAAAAB8/EyCO-0rpu34/s400/tristan-2.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Here's a picture with the pumpkin lit up from the inside in very dim light.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/TLveL3t_2OI/AAAAAAAAACA/tIc6-oLSURI/s1600/tristan-3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="300" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/TLveL3t_2OI/AAAAAAAAACA/tIc6-oLSURI/s400/tristan-3.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;And here's one in complete darkness.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/TLveTUA5dUI/AAAAAAAAACE/smrnZEMXoxE/s1600/tristan-4.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="300" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/TLveTUA5dUI/AAAAAAAAACE/smrnZEMXoxE/s400/tristan-4.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;This is the image I used to carve the pumpkin. One of the links at the top of this post shows you exactly how to create a 3-shaded posterized image from an original photo using photoshop.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-5041556523131850223?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/5041556523131850223/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2010/10/justice-for-tristan-jack-o-lantern.html#comment-form" title="4 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/5041556523131850223?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/5041556523131850223?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2010/10/justice-for-tristan-jack-o-lantern.html" title="Justice for Tristan Jack-O-Lantern" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/TLvdY8AOteI/AAAAAAAAAB4/yPVG89OrGzg/s72-c/tristan-1.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEMBRHk-cSp7ImA9WxFRFkg.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-8923382091094721019</id><published>2010-04-24T09:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-30T12:40:55.759-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-04-30T12:40:55.759-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="vaclav smil" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="richard heinberg" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="peak oil" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="permaculture" /><title>Peak Oil and Food Production - A Debate</title><content type="html">The following is a combination of Facebook dialogues between my friend Jason and myself, with a few other people inputting also.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Emanuel Sferios&lt;/span&gt; - More interesting food facts: 1. All farm machinery combined uses less than 1% of US fuel consumption. To replace tractors with horses would require us to build up the horse stock to 250 million animals, or ten times their record number ever, which occurred in the 1920s. To feed this many horses would require 750 million acres of land, or twice the amount of total arable land in the US! So the next time you talk about horses being more "sustainable" than tractors for agriculture, acknowledge that such is only the case if you condemn 2-3 billion people to starvation.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Jason Meggs&lt;/span&gt; - i'm gonna tag you in a donkey picture mr. smartypants. not that i am doubting you, but, what's the source? i sense considerable opportunity to debate...in either case we illustrate the precarious nature of a fossil fuel-based society.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Emanuel Sferios&lt;/span&gt; - Source = Vaclav Smil, ecologist and professor at the University of Manitoba. But there's nothing controversial about the claim. I've read stats like this lots of places. The number of acres per horse one needs varies greatly depending on where the land is located. Anywhere between 1 and 7 acres per horse as far as I can tell doing a quick google search. So Smil's estimate here of 3 acres per horse or therabouts seems conservative.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;James Cohea&lt;/span&gt; - Fuel: we are not fucked on farms. It is very feasible to grow enough high sugar crops (not corn) to make alcohol fuel to supply the farms needs. Coops can be formed with other farms and enough fuel can be produced to provide alcohol fuel to at least a portion of the non-farming residents of immediate areas. See the book "Alcohol Can Be A Gas" by David Blume for more. He also teaches classes on this all over the nation and is expanding.&lt;br /&gt;
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Gas consumption of farms: I don't actually know, one way or another about the 1% figure, but I take Emanuel's word for it. The larger issue is the amount of fuel used to manufacture and distribute the fertilizers, pesticides, and herbacides to practice what I term "chemiculture". Additionally, fossil fuels are often contained within these fertilizers and problem controls.&lt;br /&gt;
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Horses: Yes one horse per three acres. I have seen people put 4 horse on one acre and I think those people should be taken out and shot. (not really, but you get me). I'm not down with horses overused for labor, but they have been used in the past. One thing about horses and farms - in times past, farms were located within 7 miles of the city it was producing for. Why? Because 7 miles was the distance that you could afford to feed the horse to travel to and fro and remain economical solvent on the products of the farm.... See More&lt;br /&gt;
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When I worked at an organic farm for 2 years, we did not use horses, but rather human labor. We had three acres, used permaculture and sustainable practices, tons and tons of horse manure we got for free, provided produce for up to 150 families with little more than half the land in production at any given time. (The rest was in process or resting fallow). We only rented a tractor for use when we were 1,000 man hours (person hours, whatever) behind - basically, 5 full time crew, one month behind in work.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is not necessary to replace machinery with horse, but it is also not necessary to use machinery as much as it it used by the current agricultural model.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lastly, referring to fuel use, the 1% figure does not account for transport of crops and animal goods from farm to store to plate on the table.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Emanuel Sferios&lt;/span&gt; - I've always wanted to understand energy. Nobody has it down as well as Vaclav Smil. Nickle you would love this guy. As for farm equipment like tractors, they are on par with back hoes and other heavy machinery in being efficient users of fuel. They do not have to go very fast, for example, like cars do. If we are going to be forced to limit our ... See Morefuel use due to declining supplies, tractors are the last thing we should be replacing. It's the trucking industry and personal transportation that wastes the vast majority of oil. As a farmer, I LOVE tractors. I tilled a half an acre once in a few hours with only two gallons of diesel using a small tractor. Try doing that by hand with ten friends and see how far you get in a month! If we have to use oil, using the small amount of it we do to easily produce food is a good use. (Incidentally, this was raw, un-tilled ground. One of the best ways to farm is to till once, and then never till again. No-till farming conserves nutrients and increases crop yields.)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Jason Meggs&lt;/span&gt; - Emanuel, thanks for the lively and informative discussion. When I suggested debating the figure it wasn't whether that many animals would consume that much arable land (I'm familiar), it was whether that many animals would be necessary. James Cohea's response hits it for the most part. And, I wanna know how they did the conversion. Energy/life-cycle assessment is a wiggly world.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time it *is* counter-intuitive that tractors consume so little of the energy. Reading Keith Stewart et al's "It's a Long Road to a Tomato," I was amazed to learn that he puts only 60 gallons of (presumably, subsidized red-dyed ag diesel) into his old tractor a year to run a highly productive 100-acre farm. That doesn't mean the decline of petroleum won't kill the billions you've mentioned: it very well could. (Not to mention climate change, stemming from the expenditure of all that tasty oil &amp; gas.) There's a lot more energy that goes into the current mechanized, long-distance food system than the tractors.&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking of which...... The biggest job in the world is weeding. By hand. When you don't use (petroleum) pesticides, the job is much more intense. I don't think tractors can help much with this, except in careful cases a chicken tractor. Different.&lt;br /&gt;
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People get really quick with a hoe, but some of it, and harvesting, has to be done more carefully with fingers, stooping in the hot sun. I've fantasized about creating a bicycle-technology solution to reduce strain from stooping. It would be a little like a hang glider on wheels: ergonomic bike-hammock harvester/weeder machines (in this vision you roll along the rows by hand, not having to stoop all the time, lying over the plants in a sling). You'd creep along the rows, perhaps tossing the harvest overhead into a collection system. It could even have a shade structure. Again, not for mechanized big ag, but for improving the daily lives of our more sustainable farmers who struggle against...the grain...&lt;br /&gt;
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Innovations like this, pairing low-carbon modern technology with small-scale farming techniques, are where I'd put the attention right now, not in reinventing the tractor; that and increasing the number of local farms within short reach of markets. &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Emanuel Sferios&lt;/span&gt; - Hey Jason, yeah it's crazy how much work can get done using heavy equipment and diesel fuel. Hydrolics are very efficient, and tractors never go very fast. Given that so little fuel is necessary, this is the one place where relatively minor government subsidies could keep the industry in place. Food costs would not have to rise very much with the rising cost of oil, at least as far as production. Transportation is a different story entirely. But even then, subsidizing *food transportation* will certainly happen before non-essential commodoties from walmart. People riot when they don't have food. Rarely for other things (though if the iPods stop rolling we might be in trouble).&lt;br /&gt;
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As for weeding taking the most labor hours, that's certainly true, but be careful extrapolating from vegetable farms to the majority of farms, which are grain. Grains are not nearly as susceptible to pests as are vegetables, and grains are BY FAR the most important food crop. The three biggies (rice, wheat and corn) supply a whopping TWO-THIRDS of all food energy consumed in the world. Even in wealthy segments of the US, where we eat more vegetables than anywhere else (this includes me), vegetables comprise no more than 10% of our energy intake. Perhaps we notice when we eat vegetables more (because they are colorful and we also grow them in our gardens, etc.) but that rice we eat, or pasta, etc., is by far where we get our energy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Point being here that grains are mass-produced using heavy machinery with just a tiny drop of diesel fuel (and they don't need that much weeding or pesticides even, unless they are in tropical climates). But try planting and harvesting acres of grains without a tractor. It could with lots and lots of hard human labor, but only extremely ideological fanatics would advocate such a thing, when there's no terrible problem with way we are doing it today. In other words, we should not throw the baby out with the bathwater. There's plenty of problems with modern agriculture, but labor-saving tractors are not it. (Soil compaction is NOT that big of a problem when tractors are used correctly, and the advantages are enormous... and again, VERY LOW ENERGY INPUT.)&lt;br /&gt;
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As for small farms, everybody loves them (including myself) but realistically they could never supplant large-scale farms for feeding the population of the world today (and I am unwilling to advocate changes that would require massive depopulation... that is draconian and unrealistic.) Here's how to think about it. Go to some of your Bay Are farmer's market and count how many of the small farmers there are growing wheat. Probably not many. They are selling vegetables, for the most part. Add up all the calories consumed from all the Bay Area farmer's markets and it isn't even a drop in the bucket compared to the calories consumed from large-scale farms growing staple grains. Even the people who eat regularly from a CSA or from the farmer's market only get perhaps 20% of their calories there (I know there are hard core folks who may eat only vegetables, but this is extremely rare). And small farms simply cannot compete with large farms in feeding us. It is pie-in-the-sky to advocate that people only eat local food. This is possible for a few of us only because so few people even try it. If lots of people started trying it it would quickly present itself as utterly impossible. Local supplies of carbohydrate and protein would disappear overnight, and we would once again have to rely on our midwest mega farms.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not to say there's no room for improvement. The biggest area for improvement by far is how much grain we grow to feed cows so that people can eat meat they don't need to eat. Then don't get me started on how the Willamette Valley in Oregon grows so much grass seed. Certainly we could localize our food supply to a much greater extent than we have today, but I am no longer a believer in total re-localization as a practical solution. This change has come from my study of energy and food, when I learned just how much I and other "sustainability activists" ignored facts that did not fit into our idealistic solutions.&lt;br /&gt;
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One of these was ignoring where our calories actually came from. How many proud permaculturists do you know who make claims that they grow X-percentage of their own food? 99% of the time these are gross exxagerations. Even if you grow ALL your own vegetables during the summer, you are growing only perhaps 20% of your calories. I've belabored this fact enough, so here's another one to chew on (pun intended)...&lt;br /&gt;
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Historically it takes 2.5 acres to keep five people alive all year round in tropical climates with year-round growing seasons using traditional, small-scale farming techniques. 2.5 acres is just shy of a football field. I did a blog post on this a while back. Here's the link: http://sferios.blogspot.com/2008/12/what-permaculture-doesnt-talk-about.html .. The point here is that it takes A LOT MORE LAND than people think to grow enough calories to support themselves. And don't get me started on John Jeavons nonsense. Did you know he doesn't even eat the food he grows from his plots, but rather composts EVERYTHING back into the soil in order to generate statistics that show how efficient he is in getting large harvests year after year? LOL&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;James Cohea&lt;/span&gt; - Yeah, his claims have always been, oh how do I say this nicely, overly optimistic. A more realistic figure would be 30K per year off of 5 acres. Jeavons has also achieved 8 times the yield, at the maximum height of his experiment. That's no where near the claim that he thinks 16 times the yield is achievable. I have double dug beds before but I ... See Morehonestly don't see the need to do it more than once, and only in certain circumstances. That's not feasible on a larger scale. I do, however, find some education in what he does as I try to take the best ideas from all systems, and Jeavons provides a few.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Emanuel Sferios&lt;/span&gt; - Yes, that's what she told me. And he does not advertise that. In other words, he's being intentionally deceptive. I don't trust what he says anymore about anything after she told me that. As for double digging (tilling deeply). Doing it once is important in clay soils, but after that it's not necessary. You will only increase leaching. And leaching of organic nitrogen (from manures, fish emulsion, etc) is just as much a problem as leaching of artificial forms of nitrogen.&lt;br /&gt;
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I read something online yesterday that someone said you can't double dig in clay soils and I was like "what?" that is exactly when you should do it. People have crazy ideas and that's why I like to track down sources of info. I hope you don't think I was doubting you, I just like to see for myself when possible since so much conflicting and just plain wrong info is out in the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Emanuel Sferios&lt;/span&gt; - How DARE you doubt ME! LOL. Seriously, doubt everything and everyone, especially me. I'm wrong at least half the time. I've found experience to be the best teacher. Mostly, doubt anyone trying to sell you something, including books, teacher-certification, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Jason Meggs&lt;/span&gt; - Emanuel, I have returned to doubt you again, my good friend. Dig it. Double diggit. Dude. Ette. Cet. Rah.&lt;br /&gt;
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So this weekend I visited some friends' farm out side Davis. They grow grain, vegetables, raise chickens. I've helped many times there including grain harvest, driving concubine, setting up improve irrigation, etc.Smart kids, so I asked them about these issues.&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Yes you can make biofuels to run farm equipment using 5-10% of your land. That's less land than it takes to raise draft animals but then the animals make their own replacements. Draft animals have additional benefits/drawbacks that need to be accounted for. (If necessar/wise you can eat them, unlike the exhaust out of the tailpipe, for one. You can't backhoe with them, however. But they are better long-term for the soil than tractor farming if done right, particularly in a closed system (self-sufficient).)&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The calculations to determine billions would starve were questioned again (I'd still like to see these). Not apples and oranges; to go to a draft animal system would mean quite a reworking of many things, building capacity for handlers again, etc. (in this country). However, evidence was found to very much doubt the claim, simply by assessing existing "pet" horses:&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course these horses aren't all draft horses, so additional acreage would have to be set aside to cover the draft horse's greater food requirements, and various other critical details need to be considered before this becomes a meaningful analysis, but still, I think this basic information casts doubt upon the assertion that using draft animals instead of tractors would necessarily require setting aside so much cropland that billions would starve."&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Emanuel Sferios&lt;/span&gt; - Good stuff Jason! I have no doubt about your biodiesel stats above. I am no proponent of using biofuels to run cars (simply too many of them), but given that tractors use so little energy to begin with, growing biodiesel to run them seems feasible. I don't believe it will solve any problems (global warming or otherwise), but if some farmer wants to do it, why not? Seems like a lot of extra time for no benefit. (It will certainly cost more in both money and time to grow your own biodiesel, and you won't be lessening global warming one bit.)&lt;br /&gt;
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As for the other issue about how many horses it would take to work 300 million acres of cropland, and how much extra cropland it would take to maintain these horses... well this seems like a good research project indeed. I don't know the answers. I was quoting from Vaclav Smil, one of my favorite ecologists. Does he have a bias? Maybe. But I've read many of his books and he hasn't shown one. On the other hand, a website like the one you pointed out here has bias written all over it:&lt;br /&gt;
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I have learned to be very suspicious of Green claims. (I think the predicament the earth is in is much worse than can be solved by changing light bulbs, using canvass shopping bags, growing a backyard garden, or any other lifestyle changes an individual can make.) I have never owned or worked draft horses, so I don't know the answers. At this point I am still inclined to believe Smil's stats concerning number of horses and land area.&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way Jason, you say: "It is sometimes said that a single draft horse can be used to work 25 acres." These are the kind of statements that raise eyebrows for me. Just who exactly says theis? Again, I have never used draft horses, but I do know how large 25 acres is.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Jason Meggs&lt;/span&gt; - I'm not familiar with the Green Living Journal but the article seems knowledgable and sincere, and discusses enough pitfalls that it doesn't seem to be a panacea/fantasy tract. It's "Reprinted with the permission of Rural Heritage, a bimonthly journal focused on the ecologically and economically friendly use of draft animal technology, 281 Dean ... See MoreRidge Lane, Gainesboro, TN 38562, 931-268-0655, www.ruralheritage.com." There are a lot of ads on the site, true. The author doesn't say where the knowledge comes from. Again I am quoting my friend, who is farming grain near a town...with a tractor. Speaking of references: You still don't say where the author's claim is (book? website? page number?). That doesn't make it easy to find if I wanted to read for myself.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Emanuel Sferios&lt;/span&gt; - Here's the book: http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&amp;tid=8546&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Jason Meggs&lt;/span&gt; - Back to the original issue: the obvious. The appreciation of Smil's more nuanced analyses falls short here. Things have changed since animal traction was universal. Smil's power-to-land conversion (mechanized power, translated directly to an estimate of feed-land needs to produce that much animal power in absolute terms) was based solely on the power of tractors compared to the power of horses (an apples and oranges comparison), including an arbitrary choice of animal and usage characteristics. Thus it was not a complete analysis of a change in paradigm, far from it, although he has sent me a document with a good bit of information that could be used for such an analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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So: it would be wrong to make major claims based on that wave of the hand. Things are more nuanced and require deeper analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have emailed the document and letter he sent in response; the range of land/feed allocated throughout history and across the globe described therein is quite large (e.g., "an American horse thus needed at least 1.2 ha while a Chinese draft animal claimed only 0.13 ha, nearly an OM difference resulting from a combination of smaller sizes, less work, and poorer feeding in China").... See More&lt;br /&gt;
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Even with such an analysis, the fundamental issue originally raised in the thread, as to whether animal traction is sustainable, is not necessarily answered by this inquiry. Even if people would starve due to an instantaneous (theoretical) phase shift (and people are already starving, and there have always been people starving), it does not by default mean the process is unsustainable. There are those who argue that agriculture is fundamentally unsustainable. That is a large question in and of itself. To answer that is to answer the draft animal question as well. This should be communicated to the original thread.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Emanuel Sferios&lt;/span&gt; - How are you defining "sustainable" Jason? Sustainable for 800 million people? Or sustainable for 8 billion people? I don't think you realize the impact chemicals have had on yields. And not just chemicals but cultivars that were bred specifically to respond to these chemicals. The Green Revolution (as it was so called back then) was funded by the wealthy capitalist foundations (Ford, Rockefeller) specifically to pacify poor countries who were leaning towards communism. Preventing starvation and keeping people well fed tamed the protests and brought these countries into the US sphere of influence. Ford and Rockefeller didn't have humanitarian intentions in mind when they dramatically increased crop yields by funding research and implementation of chemically driven agriculture. They were fighting the cold war. But they *did* succeed. Nobody can deny this. Without chemical fertilizers and pesticides we would not be able to support 6-8 billion people. Not even close. It's pie in the sky fantasy to think organic agriculture can "sustain" this many people. There simply isn't enough organic nitrogen on the planet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here's an excellent book you will love about the history of artificial fertilizer. http://www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Air-Jewish-Scientific-Discovery/dp/0307351793/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1269746314&amp;sr=1-1&lt;br /&gt;
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I used think, "ok, so we need artificial fertilizers, but we don't need pesticides." Then I challenged my own assumptions on this issue too, and learned (the hard way... ask me about my time farming in Nicaragua) that without pesticides, lots of people would starve to death too.... See More&lt;br /&gt;
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You are resisting Jason. I can see that. But you are willing to probe further. That is a good sign. Most pie-in-the-sky permaculturists won't even look at evidence that contradicts their belief system. Keep going. Remember, all you have to lose is your illusions. It may be a lonely place at first (your former allies will scoff at you) but like me, you will come to terms with it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for sending Smil's response and his horse document. It was all confirmation to me. Either we condemn billions to starvation or we retain the use of fossil fuels in agriculture.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Jason Meggs&lt;/span&gt; - Thanks Manny. My broad definition of sustainability for this purpose, where humans are concerned, is roughly, the common metric of whether current practices impinge on future generations. Which impacts also are defined broadly.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes it's controversial to discuss worst case scenarios. I recently witnessed an author pied at the Anarchist Book Fair while describing how unsustainable human agricultural practices are, fundamentally, with or without petroleum inputs. The pie appeared to have pepper sauce in it. ... See More&lt;br /&gt;
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If I too write a book (surely with your help already!) and speak I will be sure to set up a pie booth to pre-empt divisiveness. The pies will all be hand crafted from home grown bananas and home grown cayenne pepper sauce, mixed in home sun-distilled vinegar. I will have a pie-proof microphone or a loud voice. The pies will consist of a coconut-oil and grain base for a crust (also all home grown and hand harvested and home hand processed). They will use pie tins forged of re-used hubcaps and bicycle wheels. Or, maybe people will just throw rotten fruit and epithets, saving me the trouble. And I will collect this precious discarded food and hoard it, preserve it for later, then possibly trade some for a few drops of petrol to race around in an abandoned Ferrari or Ducati for kicks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Funny anecdote, as long as I'm jesting: once upon a time in grad school, during a course named "Sustainable Communities," the issue of peak oil was raised and the professor decried those peak oilers as nuts who think all the oil will run out at once. (This was 2005.) I asked for class time to describe peak oil. Brought a stack of books and a detailed poster next class. Spoke for 10+ minutes about it. Showed the population line that tracks exponentially with fossil fuel use and suggested that we may be in serious trouble as a world if food supplies and other critical services flag during contraction, let alone break out into rioting and war.&lt;br /&gt;
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For this I was the recipient of racist and sexist remarks supported by the professor (evidently misunderstanding my concern for the human race; I was not communicating that any particular group was overpopulating the planet, just that fossil fuels correlated with growth of population). There were other divisive challenges thrown, such as the idea that only the US would be in trouble as other countries gang up on it -- as if I only care about one country's people, ecosystem, etc. -- for I don't believe it will be so simple.&lt;br /&gt;
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I could go on. If they can't get it at Berkeley, where do they get it? Granted, years have passed and peak oil is widely known now, but I don't see any crash course in preparing for best case equitable humane and environmentally sound outcomes (indeed, none of the above). Falloff of max petroleum output could well be 8%/anum. Half as much in less than half a generation. How will the world deal with that political-logistical crisis? Particularly with complications to crop yields such as climate change? Particularly with the opposite of prudent and timely preparation taking place? We are living in a wait-until-it-breaks system. When it breaks, will basic human needs and human rights be respected? Will environmental protections be observed? One can hope. How do we best prepare?&lt;br /&gt;
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(Footnote: Also in 2005 I proposed a Plan B Project to prepare for crisis opportunities: essentially an action plan on all levels including legislative/regulatory changes. Nobody went for it enough to grow it, and I dropped the idea. At least it may have encouraged the Plan B group to switch from water to oil as a primary topic and some still commend the idea. You can bet planning for crisis opportunity is something big industries are doing and the likely outcomes are not pretty. Billions for biofuels was one minor example of a boondoggle in exactly the wrong direction.)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Emanuel Sferios&lt;/span&gt; - Peak oil is here now. I strongly recommend www.theoildrum.com for some of the best articles and comment threads, although I disagree with many of the predictions expressed by people there (and also some of the predictions by Heinberg, Ruppert, Kunstler, etc.) For example, I don't think peak oil is going to affect agriculture very much... so long as biofuel production is kept in check (and 2008 saw lots of legislation banning biofuels, which is a very good sign.) Biofuel production removes cropland that would otherwise be used to grow food crops (it also promotes deforestation), hence raising food prices. Rising oil prices in 2008 made biofuel production competitive, and food prices started going up. But then something very telling happened: the recession hit, oil demand and prices dropped, biofuel production stopped and food prices fell and stabalized again. (I'm not talking about US ethanol production, btw, which continues).&lt;br /&gt;
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What this shows is that when oil prices rise, less-essential industries collapse first. People are not going to stop buying food, but they will stop flying needlessly (hence the airlines go under), and they will stop buying new cars. And they will stop making payments on their loans. And banks will stop giving easy credit. Etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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Agriculture thus has some insulation. Peak oil is NOT going to result in run-away agricultural prices. The mistake Heinberg et al make is twofold. First, they assume that oil prices are going to simply rise and rise without stopping. 2008 has shown this is not the case. When prices get too high, industries collapse and recessions result, bringing the price back down. Second, they assume that rising oil prices are going to effect all oil-dependent industries equally. Again, 2008 has shown this is not true. People continued to buy food. We did not see farms or grocery stores go bankrupt as a result of the recession (even the number of small farms continues to increase).... See More&lt;br /&gt;
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While diesel costs for farm machinery are marginal, transportation costs for delivering the food are more significant, and this has often been used by peak oil catastrophists to support their claim that peak oil will result in a collapse of the global food system. But again, this assumes that oil prices will rise and rise with no end. But that's not what happens. Recessions result when oil prices get too high, and the price comes back down, and the industries affected by these recessions are the less-essential ones. Essential industries (like food production) can weather the storm of rising food prices, and simply wait for the recession to hit and for prices to fall back down (this will be a pattern on the peak oil down-slope... we will slowly come out of this recession. Oil prices will rise again, and another recession will hit. Etc. my personal prediction is that the GDP will never be as high as it was in 2008, so the recoveries will only ever be partial recoveries).&lt;br /&gt;
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So now let's look at fertilizer costs, another reason peak oil catastrophists give that food production will collapse. Nitrigen fertilizer is made primarily from natural gas. This is true in two different ways. First, it is the "feedstock" for the fertilizer, meaning it provides the necessary ammonia. Second, it provides the "process energy" for extracting the ammonia much of the time (though coal or hydroelectric or other forms of energy is sometimes used). Sonatural gas provides all the feedstock for creating nitrogen fertilizer and a good share of the process energy. We are thus completely dependent on natural gas for creating nitrogen fertilizer. But here is the important info...&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if we also used natural gas for ALL of the process energy in creating artificial fertilizers (not just the feedstock) the resulting consumption of natural gas needed to do this would be 150 billion cubic tons a year. This would still be less than 7% of the world's natural gas consumption. As Smil writes, "While our dependence on the synthesis of nitrogen fertilizers is now truly irreplaceable, it is not constrained by the availability of natural gas."&lt;br /&gt;
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As long as we don't use up all the world's natural gas reserves for non-essential uses (like generating electricity for widget factories, say), we are ok.&lt;br /&gt;
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So what does all this mean? Jason, you are going to hate the conclusion here. The conclusion here is that peak oil is NOT going to collapse the food system, and there is no imperative whatsoever to localize food production. Localizing food production, on the contrary, would condemn billions to starvation, because there is no way to produce the amount of food the world currently consumes on small farms using organic, non-fossil fuel methods.&lt;br /&gt;
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If I wanted to be provocative (rather than just honest) I could say something like, "The permaculture fanatics have hijacked the peak oil movement." But some of my best friends are permaculturists, so I don't want to say that. I will say, however, that the Intentional Community (IC) fanatics have hijacked it to a large degree. Total collapse predictions provide them with perfect rationalizations for "going back to the land."&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem is that the marriage between the peak oil awareness movement and the permaculture/organic/IC people is ill-founded, as peak oil is not going to jeopardize agricultural systems.&lt;br /&gt;
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I could write more about how the permaculture/organic people are coming from a positive place, that industrial ag certainly has it's problems, etc. Those who know me know I am not giving a knee-jerk defense of industrial ag. I am an organic gardener, and a vegetarian (once again-whew), and I lived for two years on intentional communities. I have just divested myself from believing that these are solutions to current world problems. They aren't. In fact, if governments tried to implement total localization of food production, we would have the worst mass genocide in all of history.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Jason Meggs&lt;/span&gt; - Emanuel my fiesty friend, Briefly now as I'm fatigued from a long day trouncing about farming.&lt;br /&gt;
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You make very good points, gratefully received. Qualifying if I may: I don't think all peak oil theorists are ignorant of the cycle of demand destruction. Personally I've been describing the process as ramping up, hitting the ceiling, falling down and starting ramping up again -- a bit like bumper cars getting into a tighter and tighter traffic jam -- for years now. Jan Lundberg of Culture Change certainly discusses demand destruction. I'd be surprised if Heinberg ignores this, he's of a really sharp mind. Not going to search for counter-examples right now, though. But that's a side issue to the core survival questions.&lt;br /&gt;
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So again we agree. However, there are at least several issues of import that need further elucidation and debate.&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Priority for food is not assured. The food riots which resulted from biofuel the gold rush did not end world starvation. Inequities are also exacerbated by crisis, even as humanitarian aid or market corrections of all kinds may increase.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Natural gas supplies, like oil supplies, are finite. In North America NG has already peaked. The issue I raised last message, and in earlier exchanges, remains open: how do we navigate long-term as carrying capacity quite predictably retracts (and for more reasons than peak petroleum)?&lt;br /&gt;
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3) Peak oil is more than bounded, downard-trending volatility and just shluffing off non-essentials, although that's a fairly utopian/cornucopian view in itself. Peak oil is the first time modern society has had to make do with less, RATHER THAN MORE (on balance), year after year. Think about it.&lt;br /&gt;
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First, Heinberg... It's not that Hienberg at al have ignored the process of demand destruction in general, it's precisely that they have applied it **only** in general, not taking into account the specifics of how it will play out on a practical level. I've read everything Heinberg has published, and he has jumped fully onto the "peak oil = food crisis" bandwagon using only the **general** argument that because we use fossil fuels to produce food, we aren't going to be able to produce it as cheaply or easily on the down slope. Again, I think this is incorrect, because 1) Farm machinery uses such a small amount of oil 2) Fertilizer production uses such a small amount of natural gas, and 3) essential industries like food production have great resiliency. (Food demand does not get destroyed unless people get destroyed.)&lt;br /&gt;
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What is worse, Heinberg has jumped onto the "re-localize food production" bandwagon without looking deeply enough into the realities of food production. Here's a perfect example. This is a Heinberg Quote from: http://www.globalpublicmedia.com/transcripts/456... See More&lt;br /&gt;
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[Vaclav Smil says] "If crops are rotated and the soil is fertilized with compost and sewage, thereby returning as much fixed nitrogen as possible to the soil it is just possible for a hectare of land to feed ten people provided they accept a mainly vegetarian diet. Although such farming is almost sustainable it falls short of the productivity of land that is fertilized with artificial nitrogen. This can easily support forty people and on a varied diet." Okay. But given the fact that fossil fuels are non-renewable, limited in extent, it will be increasingly difficult to continue supplying chemical fertilizers in present quantities.&lt;br /&gt;
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Heinberg believes it will become "increasingly difficult" to create artificial fertilizer after fossil fuels peak. However, fossil fuels *have* peaked, and this has not happened. It hasn't happened for clear reasons, reasons he ignores. As I've said, he believes depletion is going to produce a crisis for all industries equally, but this is not true. He does not look deeply enough into the situation. He does not know, for example, that artificial fertilizer (which more than quadruples the productivity of land) consumes less than 5% of natural gas. He does not know that the vast majority of **organic** fertilizer (cow manure) is made from artificial fertilizer (fertilized corn grown to feed the cows). Sure, he has a sharp mind, but he's now very emotionally invested in his thesis. He's promoted in in four books and numerous articles. His identity is fully wrapped around his food crisis claims, and I highly doubt he will have the courage to change his mind, or even to look seriously at the counter-arguments. I used to promote his work constantly, and I still do. But I promote it with caveats now.&lt;br /&gt;
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Next, as for your comment above about food availability being exacerbated by crisis, I full agree. I also agree that peak oil is going to produce a crisis (it already has). I just think the crisis it produces is going to be a political and economic one primarily. No growth means the current debt-based banking system can't continue. Unemployment rises. People do not have money. The problem, in other words, is not an inability to produce or transport food. It's a lack of people's ability to pay for food. But this crisis can be solved with political-economic changes.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for your #2 question above, I would like to learn more about just what natural gas supplies are used for. If producing fertilizer is only 5%, how is the other 95% used? It explains nothing simply to say, "natural gas is a finite resource." All that means is that business as usual cannot continue forever. We cannot continue to grow our economy and population forever. We both agree on that. But like oil, natural gas depletion is not going to affect all industries that depend on it equally.&lt;br /&gt;
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We know that natural gas is used for home heating, and also for electricity generation. The most important question, I think, is how much of it is used for non-essential industry, meaning the proverbial widget factories? These will be the first to go as the recession deepens, lowering natural gas demand and prices. All the same phenomenon will be ... See Morein play for NG as it is for oil. So once again, I do not think the **general** truth that these are finite resources is the operating principle for a discussion of agriculture. The operating principle is the percentage of these fossil fuels needed for agriculture, and because it is so little, the buffer is large enough that it could *sustain* the world's current population for a very very very long time, so long as we don't use it all up on other things. And it is highly unlikely we will use it all up on other things. Why? Because as depletion sets in, the price will rise and people will stop consuming these other things! This is exactly what happened in 2008 with oil.&lt;br /&gt;
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The economic crisis produced by peak oil is going to be the one thing that prevents us from consuming all the oil in the ground. Hence there will *always* be enough oil in the ground for farm machinery, since farm machinery uses so little. I believe the same is true fro natural gas and fertilizers.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for your #3, here is where we agree fully. The crisis of peak oil is that the world now has ever-depleting energy at it's disposal, and this is causing an economic crisis because capitalism is predicated on growth. Banks need growth to get their loans paid back. This cannot happen if there isn't ever-increasing amounts of energy. I think the crisis is going to be primarily an economic and political one, and have very little effect on agriculture and food production. Hence my entire point of all these posts... the peak oil community has spend way too much time talking about food. Survivalist types and organic gardeners have become strange bedfellows as a result. "Buy land!" "Learn to grow your own food!" Good luck, I say! Where are you going to get your fertilizer? &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Jason Meggs&lt;/span&gt; - An update is warranted as this thread shifted to other venues (most recently, a photo of me with my housemate's baby, until she protested that we shut up).&lt;br /&gt;
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So: I went and got the book, but it only referenced another of his books, "Energy in World History," from 1994. So I went and got that book (being fortunate enough to have some time, and proximity to UC Berkeley).&lt;br /&gt;
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Although the earlier book had much more information about farm animals, it also did not describe the calculations for the claim about horses needing more land than we have (and no references). So having no other options, I wrote the professor, and he promptly replied. ... See More&lt;br /&gt;
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Professor Smil confirmed that the stat Manny cites is based on the raw power of tractors to animals, as I suspected, not based on comparing two paradigms, thus it can't be used to accurately compare agricultural systems. He also sent me a document with even more information regarding animal power through history.&lt;br /&gt;
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So in short, the thing I was objecting to was the idea that the stat describes what would happen if we were to "replace tractors with horses." That is still the case, it doesn't, and I haven't attempted that analysis; nor did anyone else provide one. However, Smil did say it was laughable to think that idle horses could be used effectively, and to think we could produce today's food using horses given the chemical inputs and type of mechanization currently used.&lt;br /&gt;
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That I do not contest; as Manny has appreciated about Smil, to me the ideal is to find the rational informed middle ground of truly understanding what's going on. Because even if tractors use a small percentage of petroleum, food production is part of an incredibly petroleum (oil and gas) intensive and dependent system. As those inputs decline (the definition of peaking), the whole system will be in perpetual challenge. So it's not enough to understand today and tomorrow, we must understand the transition times (of which there may be many quite different possible scenarios).&lt;br /&gt;
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Manny has put forth in another thread that he's not worried because food will take precedence over other things, and requires little petroleum, so there's no imminent therat of starvation; he's even called noteworthy folk like Richard Heinberg wrong for advocating permaculture/organic farming, because it cannot feed the world's current population.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, food might take precedence in this country, and many efficiencies (including dietary changes) can occur to ensure that, but a humanitarian would worry that equity may not come first. Wealth inequality in a long-term decline may mean some or even many starve. Then there's the world at large (Smil's example was U.S.-specific).&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if feeding the whole is protected public policy #1, and even if we have enough petroleum to do so, and even if there isn't systemic collapse and chaos during contraction (with tractor parts being as impossible to obtain as Rolls Royce parts, or worse), over time there will be less and less petroleum for food (even if it takes generations). So to criticize advocates of sustainable agriculture seems irresponsible; long-term, based on all this, we do need a new food paradigm, and to reduce world population somehow; I prefer an ethical approach. When is the right time to begin that transition? More importantly, is there ever a wrong time? I say no; now is the best time to begin, for the good of the whole and to protect one's own survival.&lt;br /&gt;
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Likewise in the Gore debate; to criticize renewable energy advocates (and conservation advocates) is to give in not only to coal/nuclear/natural gas hegemony, and protecting those resources for essentials like food, but to fail to begin the process of replacing those sources when they are simply not available. (Yes, even food, because each iota of stored energy spent on powering a gameboy is stored resource that is gone forever.)&lt;br /&gt;
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And... Just to help with understanding why horses and tractors are different. A modern tractor is often in the 100-500 HP range. A single workhorse is around 1.5. (I don't know what number Smil used.) So gee, yes, you suddenly need hundreds of horses for one tractor, if all you care about is equal power. But guess what? I bet you could do the same work ... See Moreof that tractor with fewer horses (know so). Moreover, the horses are used differently (and animals can be used quite differently compared to one another; iIndeed, the variation in animal traction energy efficiency through history was roughly an order of magnitude, according to Smil). Many things need to be converted, reconsidered. Doesn't mean we're safe, doesn't mean we'll starve. Needs more analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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You say: "Professor Smil confirmed that the stat Manny cites is based on the raw power of tractors to animals, as I suspected, not based on comparing two paradigms, thus it can't be used to accurately compare agricultural systems."&lt;br /&gt;
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My response: I believe energy conversions are actually the best type of comparison to make. If horse farming is (or can be) more efficient than tractor farming, it will come out in the numbers. Go ahead and take into account all the differences in the two systems. The proof will still be in the numbers. How much food energy can be produced with how much input energy? And how many people can be sustained by these competing systems (because sustainability can never be separated from population)? I agree with Smil that it is laughable to think that an animal-powered agricultural system could sustain today's population. If that were the case, the world's population would have grown prior to the advent of fossil fuel technology (tractors, fertilizer, etc), but it didn't. Human population was kept in check by food limitations, which no longer exist (for better or worse). The burden of proof lies heavily on the side that challenges these obvious (at least to Smil and myself) facts. What would be different in your horse paradigm that would require less energy to produce the same amount of food? Or if you are willing to accept less food, are you willing to accept a reduced population? And how will that happen?... See More&lt;br /&gt;
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My response: This is precisely what I am contesting. I do not believe every aspect of "the system" will be challenged equally. Food production will be safe because demand for oil will be reduced by collapsing non-essential industries. Hence the cost of agricultural diesel (in terms of the price) will *never* become too high. It was only an early assumption by Heinberg and others that peak oil would mean steadily rising oil prices and the collapse of all oil-based industries equally. Now we have seen (and Heinberg has revised his position) that this isn't he case, that we will have a bumpy down slope as recessions come, ease up, and come again, until demand has pretty much permanently ceased because there is no more industrial growth. At this time oil prices will be low, and agriculture will continue as usual. I think Heinberg and others now have to revise their position again with regards to agriculture. The problem, though, is that the permaculturists and the localize foo-ists have latched on to the peak oil awareness movement, believing that peak oil will force relocalization. But this belief was based on the original assumptions of peak oil perpetually driving up oil prices, which have now been shown to be incorrect.&lt;br /&gt;
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My response: And I'll do it again too. Heinberg's position has been that peak oil is going to perpetually drive up oil prices and that all industries, including agriculture, that use oil will face equal collapse pressures. But we now know that is not going to happen. $147 oil in 2008 may in fact be the historical peak of oil prices. Prices may never get that high again. Why? Because peak oil has reduced growth potential and we may never get out of this recession/depression. Even if we do, it won't be long until another one kicks in and oil prices drop again. Hence where is the pressure on agriculture to stop using diesel? It's simple really. But if you believed--like Heinberg--that oil prices would just go up and up forever (and I used to believe this) than sure, it makes sense that we would be forced, eventually, to localize food production and try our best to grow without fossil fuels. This is the "lifeboat" thesis that Heinberg and others talk about. They say we will need to build lifeboats (small enclaves where all commerce is local) to try to save our communities on an individual basis, because there simply won't be food being produced on a global level. Some of them come right out and say (like Ruppert) that the world's population will be massively reduced by the resulting starvation. Most don't have the conceit to make such claims (Heinberg I do not believe has said it outright.) But the problem with the lifeboat theory here is simply that it is wrong. Agriculture will not collapse. Many other industries will, and we are all in for times of austerity. But austerity and starvation are quite different. Zero-growth does not have to mean mass death, because there will always be plenty of natural gas to produce fertilizer, and plenty of oil to run tractors (and even transportation), because demand for oil and natural gas to drive industry will no longer be high.&lt;br /&gt;
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To clarify some more... I am in no way dismissing peak oil and the major changes it is going to bring. I am only challenging the notion that it is going to affect agriculture. I think this notion was based on an early misunderstand of how peak oil was going to play itself out. It's unfortunate for ideological peraculturists that this is not going to happen. I have seen and known many of these folks who were almost giddy waiting for peak oil to collapse the current ag system so they could say "I told you so." They are going to be disappointed. As for me, I am relieved. I love gardening and even would love to have a small farm one day, but I don't believe anymore that this is any kind of model for local food security or sustainability or life boats or anything like that. I am relieved to know that GLOBAL food security is assured despite peak oil.&lt;br /&gt;
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The problems with industrial ag that need to be fixed, in my opinion, are not it's dependency on fossil fuels (there will always be enough available, thanks to peak oil), but rather the environmental impacts. This is why Smil spends so much time in his book discussing fixes to these problems. Conservation tilling or no-till farming is a big one. Reducing cow populations and beef-eating is another. Scientific and rational application of the least amount of fertilizer and pesticides necessary for each particular crop are another. Improving efficiencies in food distribution, post harvest losses, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
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No, thank you, Manny-induced fear did not keep me away, although the angry mother did interrupt the dialogue. However, the cycle of reiteration of key points coupled with aversion to key questions does obscure efficient use of the debate, speaking of energy efficiency. How many tractors does it take to sew an ongoing debate compared to horses? ... See More&lt;br /&gt;
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1) That the means of mechanized food production will not be challenged by collapse. Why I'm not convinced: Widgets for tractors are not guaranteed, for example. Just one VERY small example. Present day infrastructure is designed to operate at certain levels. Lots of just-in-time. Lots of chemical and material chains. Refineries are geographically based and don't necessarily fine tune up or down easily to big changes in demand. Distribution networks rely on many, many things being in place which are supported by other "non-essential" pieces of the economy.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) That *everyone* will face "austerity," but have guaranteed access to food -- as if the wealthy/powerful will not exploit the poor/powerless, nor leave them to ruin, nor take those resources for something else like building yachts or armies and prisons; as if there is no chance of a breakdown in availability of food; as if there won't be war for resources as food and water and other modern "essentials" dwindle, even as resource wars (e.g., Darfur) are a persistent theme throughout world history. I keep saying: people are starving today. Why would this happen less in a time of crisis? Not that it has to, but who has the magic wand? The UN? Will everyone just be more enlightened when making due with less? There's a big continuum of poverty out there. Is there a point where everyone is peaceful and nice and slowly reduces population voluntarily? Do they naturally do that when pushed DOWN the energy ladder? Is there hope for global equity to fulfill your belief that "GLOBAL food security is assured despite peak oil"?&lt;br /&gt;
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4) That DIY sustainable agriculture, homesteading, small scale organic farming, etc -- preparing for self-sufficiency and insulation against possible breakdown in availability of food and other essentials -- is unnecessary, and moreover, to advocate transitioning to permaculture/organic food production is to advocate killing billions, because were we do to it en masse, at this time, billions would starve. Why I'm not convinced: modern agriculture is not sustainable. Petroleum is going away. The open cycle means every year we're losing more top soil, more organic matter, more essential minerals. Population is growing. The wild is shrinking. The more we use petroleum, the more climate is expected to change, which is strongly expected to disrupt food production. Etc. Even with Smil's directives in place, the system is NOT a steady state.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) That relocalization is a misguided effort, like (4), even as you advocate "improving efficiencies in food distribution." (I look forward to your view of efficiency that involves globalization as daily oil availability declines.) Relocalization is about much more than food production. It is about building healthy, resilient community, and making more of less. Will relocalization encourage a descent into tribalism and regional conflict? Probably, but it also provides a more clear and powerful means of negotiation and mutual aid. Will remaining disorganized be better? Probably not. Unless one trusts in our fearless leaders, the market economy, and one's mysterious neighbors near and far, to do better as a collective whole. I won't rule it out. The idea of a World-War II or New Deal style approach to remaking the economy is certainly one possibility. I would strongly agree that relocalization faces many additional and even critical challenges without long-distance trade. It's again a question of degree.&lt;br /&gt;
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How should population relate to food production over time? Given that I do not believe carrying capacity will keep increasing indefinitely, as you do, my preference is advance planning: ethically reducing population to "sustainable" levels while increasing equity and public health for all people, taking the opportunity of change to build/evolve a sustainable and perhaps even "steady state" economy along the way that is based on fulfilling real human values and respecting the natural world we depend on.&lt;br /&gt;
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While you might agree with many of my goals, you disagree that population needs to be addressed, because you believe population can continue to grow with no worries. So we're at a stalemate and can keep arguing about things that surround that core question.&lt;br /&gt;
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Were we to agree on that, we might spend this time and energy collaboratively calculating things like how many people can a petroleum-free system support, and what are theoretical timelines, and the most ethical measures to get there. Instead we argue in the dark.&lt;br /&gt;
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QUESTION: Which is better, (A) ignoring population because of a cornucopian, free market magic theory that there will "always be enough," or (B) building capacity for agricultural self-sufficiency without fossil fuel inputs on the theory that one day it ill be necessary, even if that steadily reduces maximum short-term output of food supply?&lt;br /&gt;
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FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS: Which has the capacity to "kill" more people via die-off? Which has the most beneficial effects in the short term? And is slowly reducing food supply, perhaps carefully managed so as to prevent starvation (for the first time) but discourage increase, a viable way to reduce population? And would it be ethical?&lt;br /&gt;
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We can get fancier about the analysis, about the research, about the use of macro and micro economic terms and datapoints, graphs, etc. It would be good to do that and publish something. I don't know anyone addressing these things adequately, although I stopped actively searching when it became clear that market forces are overwhelmingly ruling public policy, and that there was no cohesive place to address that; and, like you, I realized that there is a lot of cushion in the system and the sky may not fall, and enough people have been warned (and ignored it or worse) that it's not incumbent on me to sound an alarm anymore. Although: collapse must not be underestimated. Too many wild cards.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Emanuel Sferios&lt;/span&gt; - Oh fun fun fun! Thanks Jason. This was a productive response. Brings up a lot more issues. Let's continue. I will address each in order:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) I don't think collapse is going to be so sudden that spare parts (widgets) for tractors and trucking will disappear. This to me sounds like a very general (and overlay alarmist) notion without specific reasons or precedence to back it up. Did people starve in Russia after the collapse? No. Did they supplement their food with small gardens? Yes. Did these small gardens provide a significant amount of their calories? No. So also the "just in time" analysis of "present day infrastructure" is equally uncompelling to me as a reason to predict food shortages. I just don't see the significance. Its too general of an argument (I've heard it before of course… the same places you have.) Refineries had a hard time keeping up with high demand. Sure. But collapse is going to produce LOW demand. Are you saying refineries won't be able to adjust to low demand? That doesn't make sense. "Chemical and material chains?" What are you talking about? Be more specific. Then I can respond directly. If you only speak generally here, I can only respond generally, which is that people will spend there last dollar on food before anything else (unless they are a drug addict), so food has the greatest cushion of all commodities, and will be the last commodity to disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) You seemed to miss my entire point here. My point is that DESPITE being finite resources, there will always (or at least for THOUSANDS of years) be enough fossil fuels for food production. This is because demand for natural gas and oil will collapse long before these resources are gone. But I'm repeating myself here. If you object to my use of the term "always," your literal point is well taken. But I think it is moot, really, given that we are talking about thousands of years worth.... See More&lt;br /&gt;
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3) You make good points here. I do believe there will be political pressures on all systems, including food systems, like there already are. These may increase. Of course political inequality has always been with us and hard times bring the worst out in people. But this really has nothing to do with what I am saying. What I am saying is that none of this is any reason to GET RID OF THE ONLY FOOD SYSTEM THAT COULD POSSIBLY FEED THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD and replace it with an ideological system of small-scale local farms that have NO CHANCE IN HELL of doing this. That's a recipe for mass starvation if I have ever heard of one. So again, there is no logic in advocating small scale farming for the sake of "sustainability" or "equality" or "justice" etc. Yet these are the arguments that permaculturists (trademark R) always give. People *like* to garden organically and people *like* permaculture systems. I sure do! The problem is when people become ideological about it and try to make it into something that it is not. That said, there are those who simply believe that peak oil is automatically going to kill off billions of people, destroy all global systems, and that the only thing we are going to have left is local economies. If such was the case, than strengthening local agriculture for the sake of food security would be a necessity. These people may not be ideological (though some I know seem to *want* die-off to occur so they can tell others "I told you so."), but rather are operating out of fear. They are survivalist types, even if they don't see it. It's interesting to me how the early survivalists were individualist-right wingers stockpiling canned goods in their basements. They are still around. But now we have progressives who have become survivalists too, though they have expanded their individualism to a tribal or community-based level. I.e., let's come together in a commune and survive. Grow food and learn to shoot to defend what we accumulate against the neighboring masses (or other communities) who try to come and get it. This way out tribe can be "sustainable" (i.e. "survivable"). I believe these folks are simply mistaken. Again, the whole discussion here is whether peak oil is going to automatically destroy global agriculture systems to the point that there is no other choice but to hunker down and fight against neighboring communities for vastly limited food supplies. I think this is based on a misunderstanding of how zero-growth is going to play out. You are right. Global food security may never be assured, and that was a sloppy quote from me. What I meant to say is that global food security is not going to be threatened by a lack of fossil fuel resources needed to grow enough food to feed the world. But even if the political consequences of economic collapse make food distribution more difficult, I will be advocating for better food distribution, not hunkering down in my commune and learning to shoot… or even worse, telling other people that the world could be feed based on what my commune was doing.&lt;br /&gt;
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4) Well I disagree with a lot of what you say here. These statements of yours come across as very general and alarmist. "Petroleum is going away." Is it really? How much will be left 10, 50, 100 years from now? We can come up with good estimates here. "Modern Ag is not sustainable?" What does sustainable mean to you? Do you think permaculture is "sustainable?" Sustainability, if it is to have any meaning at all, has to include the number of people that can be sustained. If what you are saying is that permaculture gardening could sustain 200 million people on the planet forever, then ok. That's pre-industrial levels. Almost pre-civilizational levels! (And it is doubtful that permaculture could sustain even this many people . . . perhaps organic agriculture, but definitely not permaculture). But what if an improved modern agricultural system could sustain 8 billion people for thousands of years without harming the environment. I would be advocating that. And I think that is possible. "Every year we are losing more topsoil." Sure, but do you know how much? I do. I just read about it. And do you know how much could be saved with simple conservation-tillage? I do. The situation is not so dire that we have to throw the baby out with the bath water. "Population is growing. The wild is shrinking." Well we certainly agree on this point, and that it needs to stop. "The more we use petroleum, the more climate is expected to change." Yes, but agriculture's use of petroleum is not the problem here. It's the massive scale at which we are burning fossil fuels! There's no reason to throw out the baby again, and go back to pre-industrial population levels in order to fix the climate. Only a purist would think this way. But purism is ideological. It's like being "against agriculture" completely. I am sure you have read some of the same neo-primitivist authors as I have. Please tell me you're not one of them! :) "Climate change is strongly expected to disrupt food production." In some areas, yes. But in other areas it is going to increase food production potential. It has yet to be determined the exact effect it will have. But even so, this is an argument to stop climate change, not to get rid of modern food production (which will kill off billions of people) nor even to start growing food locally and organically (organic food uses more fossil fuel than conventional food, given that organic fertilizer overwhelmingly comes from cows fed conventional corn).&lt;br /&gt;
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5) "I look forward to your view of efficiency that involves globalization as daily oil availability declines." Daily oil is not going to decline! How many times do I have to SHOUT this? Peak oil is going to destroy demand. It has already started for CRYING OUT LOUD! From now on there will always be more oil than demand (with the ... See Moreexception of *possible* short-term spikes on the down slope, but this is looking less likely. Remember when the banking system collapses, that's it. Growth is over forever despite how much oil is left. And the banking system will be the first thing to collapse, but it regulates the entire growth economy!) "The idea of a World-War II or New Deal style approach to remaking the economy is certainly one possibility." It's the only possibility. It's called a managed zero-growth economy. Some will call it socialism. It doesn't matter. Capitalism cannot continue without growth, but managed national (and international) economies can. I have more expectations than you, I guess, that world leaders will do their best to prevent chaos and rioting (which won't be good for the elites either). I think the world will be forced to live with less and manage a zero-growth economy. Do I think they will do it equitably and justly? No way. But I think we have to fight to try to get that to happen, rather than fall back into our communes believing that it is all going to hell anyway and so we might as well try to survive ("localize") on our own.&lt;br /&gt;
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"Given that I do not believe carrying capacity will keep increasing indefinitely, as you do, my preference is advance planning: ethically reducing population to "sustainable" levels while increasing equity and public health for all people, taking the opportunity of change to build/evolve a sustainable and perhaps even "steady state" economy along the way that is based on fulfilling real human values and respecting the natural world we depend on." What?! I call STRAW MAN brother! I have never said carrying capacity can increase forever. You can't pin that one on me. But the whole notion of "carrying capacity" is flawed. At least it's not very helpful. Raw numbers of people are not the issue. It's how quickly we humans are destroying the environment that matters. That can happen quickly even with fewer people than we have today, or slowly even with greater numbers of people. As for energy and farmland available to feed more people, I am pretty sure Smil calculated that with greater efficiency we could support 8 billion without having to increase the amount of cropland (in the US 25-30 perecent of food produced is wasted in various places along the post-harvest stream), and if we reduce meat consumption back to 1970 per capita levels, we could support an extra billion people on top of that. Of course, not in a growth economy with the kind of energy expenditures we have today, but peak oil is taking care of that. The end of growth is being forced upon us, thank goodness.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no reason why fossil fuel agricultural inputs cannot be a part of a sustainable, steady-state economy. (Sure perhaps not for millions of years, but who cares? Thousands of years more than encompasses the seven generations our indigenous brothers tell us we need to consider. And if we were burn fossil fuels at a rate, say, 20% of today's (more than enough for agricultural needs) we would be well within an environmentally sustainable level. The only problem would be the results of all the fossil fuels we have already burned. (Me may be too late already, in other words.) To put this another way, it is a mistake to think in terms of zero-carbon emissions. It is not necessary, and where agriculture is concerned, it is very important for the life of billions of people that we keep burning that small amount of fossil fuel.&lt;br /&gt;
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"How should population relate to food production over time?" Smil has a very interesting section in his newest book on global catastrophes and trends. He discusses a predicted decrease in the world's population that will happen not as a result of mass die-off, but rather the stabilization of expansion. I need to go back and re-read it, but the interesting thing to me was his historical data comparing what makes certain populations increase and decrease. It's not a steady rise up across all countries. It's just been a cumulative rise. Japan's population is decreasing, for example. And will harshly. India will be the main country accounting for world population increase over the next decades, overtaking China to become the world's most populous nation. But again, the interesting thing was that he predicted that population would stabalize between 8 and 10 billion, and I want to re-read this section to find out why.&lt;br /&gt;
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"Were we to agree on that, we might spend this time and energy collaboratively calculating things like how many people can a petroleum-free system support." Well, we *do* agree on that, Jason. Again, I have never said population can keep growing forever. As for how many people could be supported using a fossil fuel-free agricultural system, what's the point of discussing this except to understand that it would be close to the world's population around 1880, before the discovery of the Haber-Bosch process of producing artificial nitrogen fertilizer. Perhaps technological innovation could increase this number. But we are talking billions of people LESS than are around today. And who cares? We are not doomed to implement a fossil-fuel-free system like this. There is no need for it. It is not even desirable except in some far off time when it might be necessary, like thousands of years from now. Probably by then we will have other problems to worry about. Or we will have discovered cold fusion. Or the aliens will have saved us. Perhaps even we will have evolved as a species since we would have thousands of years to get used to a steady state economy and we will have voluntarily reduced our population to 1880 levels anyway. The point is that it is purely intellectually to discuss how many people a fossil-fuel free ag system could support. The thought of trying to do that within the next few generations is terrifying. We're talking holocaust beyond anything the world has seen. Count me out.&lt;br /&gt;
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"And is slowly reducing food supply, perhaps carefully managed so as to prevent starvation (for the first time) but discourage increase, a viable way to reduce population? And would it be ethical?" Slowly reducing food supply would most certainly result in starvation. It would have no impact on reproduction rates, only on how many children survive beyond childhood. As far as I am concerned, there are only two ways to reduce population. China's way (which is working), or education combined with the raising of the standard of living combined with the empowerment of women, access to birth control and the ending of mass poverty with a more equitable distribution of living standards. No other way is possible. People have kids in poor countries because they are insurance for getting old (the more you have the more they will be able to support you later in life), because they lack access to education and because of regressive cultural beliefs and practices. Empower women, give them education, access to birth control and old-age insurance through socialized safety nets, and they won't have too many kids. That's the case in the rich countries, and has been proven historically. The problem is that China and India have extremely uneven development, enriching small segments of the city populations while neglecting the rural poor.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-8923382091094721019?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/8923382091094721019/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2010/04/peak-oil-and-food-production-debate.html#comment-form" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/8923382091094721019?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/8923382091094721019?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2010/04/peak-oil-and-food-production-debate.html" title="Peak Oil and Food Production - A Debate" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEIBRXg8eCp7ImA9WxJWE0s.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-8099407767312628714</id><published>2009-06-18T08:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-06-18T15:02:34.670-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-06-18T15:02:34.670-07:00</app:edited><title>Marx and Peak Oil</title><content type="html">While Karl Marx could never have anticipated the peaking of global energy and the consequences this would have on an overpopulated planet, he was nonetheless one of the first economists to clearly understand and describe the relationship between money and energy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If energy is defined as the ability to perform work--a functional definition--then "capital" is simply accumulated energy. Prior to the industrial revolution, land was the most important form of capital. If you had enough of it, you could perform a lot of work (using serfs or slaves of course), growing and producing lots of things you could then sell to others. Then coal appeared, and combined with machines, coal could perform even more work and produce even more useful things to sell. Coal thus quickly became the new and most important form of "capital." Like coal, land is also simply energy in a functional sense. It provides one who controls it with the ability to perform work. Yet with coal this "capital as energy" equation became much clearer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then oil replaced coal after WWII as an even more concentrated form of energy, and has remained top dog ever since. Of course Marx wasn't around to see oil, much less its production peak in 2008 and the beginning of decline. But if you read what he wrote about "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_capital"&gt;fictitious capital&lt;/a&gt;" you may come to see how prophetic he actually was. Marx's writings about real versus fictitious capital provide a good tool for understanding--from a socialist perspective at least--the economic/financial crisis that is happening today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a nutshell, the creation and accumulation of real capital is declining, and the issuing of fictitious capital (derivatives, etc.) is increasing. And it is this combination that is causing the current financial crisis and global depression.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Capital is simply energy or the ability to perform work. It is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;real&lt;/span&gt;, and today the vast majority of real capital exists in the form of oil, which because of depletion is now in a permanent production decline. This is significant, as capitalism is predicated on growth. So to keep the system going, capitalism's financial managers have expanded the amount of "fictitious capital," creating the derivatives bubble that eventually burst in 2008. (Derivatives are basically bets on future growth, or claims to expectations of future profits.) When there's no &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;real&lt;/span&gt; capital left, the only way to make money is by selling debts like this, but without real future capital, in the end the debts will be worthless. And the holders will realize that the promise of future profits was a lie.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 2008 we saw oil prices rise to an unprecedented record of $147 a barrel right around the same time the housing and derivatives bubbles burst. This is not a coincidence, but it isn't as simple as some peak oil theorists claim--i.e., that high oil prices put financial pressure on mortgage holders, who then started defaulting. Actually the recession started and the housing bubble burst &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;before&lt;/span&gt; the run up in oil prices (though the recession got much worse later, causing oil prices to drop). Rather, what happened is that the financial managers of capitalism, realizing that real capital (oil) was going to start declining soon, made a conscious decision to rapidly increase the amount of fictitious capital (debt). This began in 2000-2001 with the FED's much criticized "easy money policy," and then subprime lending and all the derivatives that spun out of that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also remember that right around this time Dick Cheney's secret energy task force meeting took place. Exactly what went on during this meeting we will never know, because the Supreme Court ruled earlier this year that the minutes do not have to be made public. But as &lt;a href="http://mikeruppert.blogspot.com/"&gt;Mike Ruppert&lt;/a&gt; and other investigative journalists have suggested for many years now, very likely they discussed peak oil and what to do about it--both in terms of launching wars in the middle east as well as adjusting financial policy at home in order to make as much money as possible while the going was still good. In other words, grab by force as much of the remaining oil as possible, and pump and dump the middle class. This, in my opinion, is why the 2008 oil price spike coincided with the bursting of the derivatives bubbles. The financial managers understood peak oil was coming, and they chose to rapidly increase middle class debt (fictious capital) before the coming lack of real capital (and expectation of future profits/growth) would disincline people to take out loans. They timed it pretty well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What would Marx be thinking if he were alive today?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-8099407767312628714?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/8099407767312628714/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2009/06/marx-and-peak-oil.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/8099407767312628714?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/8099407767312628714?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2009/06/marx-and-peak-oil.html" title="Marx and Peak Oil" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkABQnYyeip7ImA9WxJSGE0.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-2887827526178293658</id><published>2009-05-08T10:45:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-05-08T10:45:53.892-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-05-08T10:45:53.892-07:00</app:edited><title>Time, Space and Causation</title><content type="html">A guest post by Swami Sivananda&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The mind is so constituted that it cannot think of anything except in terms of time and space. There is always the then and the now. There is always the here and the there. The mind always thinks in terms of duality. In the mind, one thing is always related to another. "This" is always something which is not "that". Similarly, "here" is something which is not "there", "then" is something which is not "now". In our daily experience we see that these are all meaningless terms. Here becomes there; now becomes then.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Similarly with regard to cause-and-effect. The mind is unable to think except in terms of cause-and-effect. But we have always seen that the cause was the effect of some other cause, and the effect now becomes the cause of some other effect to come.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore, time, space and causation are merely the mind's convenient aids to thought. When thinking stops, time, space and causation vanish into the great ignorance from which they, along with thought itself, sprang up. This Avidya (primordial ignorance) is the fountain from which the spring of mental modifications—-thoughts-—has started flowing, and these flow along the channel of time, space and causation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Time, space and causation, are therefore modes of thought. It is common experience that the inner feeling of time and space is something entirely different from what it is or might be. Someone immersed in enjoyment finds time fleeting. Yet for one who is undergoing intense suffering, an hour seems to be a millennium. The period of deep sleep, when man enjoys unalloyed happiness (though he is not positively aware of it), always seems to be no-time. Time is, therefore, a mode of thought. The Yogi sitting immersed in Samadhi, in the Bliss of Brahman the Infinite, does not know the passing of time; he lives in the Eternal Now and Here, absorbed in the causeless cause.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That which is changing and which is contradicted by your experience in another state is unreal. That which is unchanging alone is Real. Therefore, Eternity (not a period of time), or Infinity (not space) alone is Real. Here and there, now and then, all are false, meaningless terms. Where One (Brahman) alone exists, without a second, what can be the cause of what? Therefore, realise the Causeless Cause, Brahman the Absolute, and be free. Tat Twam Asi, That thou art.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-2887827526178293658?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/2887827526178293658/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2009/05/time-space-and-causation.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/2887827526178293658?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/2887827526178293658?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2009/05/time-space-and-causation.html" title="Time, Space and Causation" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkcBR3Y_fyp7ImA9WxVRFEU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-3362190370333835009</id><published>2009-01-18T16:15:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-01-20T12:40:56.847-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-01-20T12:40:56.847-08:00</app:edited><title>Materialism vs Idealism</title><content type="html">This is an email I sent to a friend of mine regarding the classic philosophical debate between Idealism and Materialism. Basically, idealism says consciousness came first, and materialism says matter came first. I am an idealist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear G,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You say you are not a materialist but yet you say that your consciousness ends when you die. This is classic materialism. Materialism believes that matter precedes mind and consciousness, that consciousness is a product of the brain. Materialists also believe that all consciousness is limited, individual consciousness, existing inside each being separately. My consciousness is not your consciousness, etc. This is what you believe, I am pretty sure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whence then comes natural laws? What causes gravity? Electromagnetism? If you are one who believes in a big bang, what caused that? You see, it's absurd to me to say that insentient matter produced sentience. If there is a force behind matter (causing it to move, say), then that force has to be sentient. I know you disagree with this. But this is the crux of why I am an idealist. All these problems are solved if consciousness came first, if consciousness is projecting this universe and is therfore &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;involved&lt;/span&gt; in it. Why? Because you aren't left with the fruitless task of trying to explain the ultimate cause of every phenomenon in terms of yet another phenomenon. For example, if you say that gravity is caused by small particles called "gravitons" (something I believe), you can then ask what caused gravitons. It will go on forever in an infinite regress.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"So what," you might say? You may not be disturbed by an infinite regress. You might agree with &lt;a href="http://www.metaresearch.org/"&gt;Tom Van Flandern&lt;/a&gt; that the universe is infinite in time, space and scale, and thus it makes sense that causes will continue to be found forever. "This is just the nature of the physical universe," you might say, "big deal." Well, I happen to agree with Van Flandern, but still the question forces itself upon us; what caused &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;all of this to be happening&lt;/span&gt;? You can trace both material and efficient causes back forever, but that only makes the question, "what caused this whole infinite process" all the more important and profound--at least to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the answer we are given by Eastern philosophy is, essentially, idealism. This whole infinite universe is the projection of a single, infinite Consciousness. This Consciousness is both the material and the efficient cause of the universe. (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_cause#Material_cause"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is a quick definition of these two types of causes.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This makes &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;so much sense&lt;/span&gt; to me, intuitively and also rationally. The alternative (that insentient matter moves on its own, according to natural laws that, well, just happen to be what they are because... well, because that's what they are, that's all) is absurd to me. It doesn't explain anything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the idealist view, Consciousness pervades the universe, and therefore matter &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;is&lt;/span&gt; sentient. This does not mean a rock is sentient per se. A rock is a collection of molecules. But what is sentient is the force that keeps the rock together, that binds the atoms, that keeps the electrons circling their protons, etc. (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience#Eastern_religion"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is a quick and dirty explanation of sentience according to Eastern philosophy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That matter moves according to natural laws makes sense in this view, since Consciousness is immanent inside everything, and has &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Will &lt;/span&gt;that can make things move. Natural laws are nothing more than the will of this consciousness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Idealists also believe that this Universal Consciousness, after becoming &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;involved&lt;/span&gt; in the universe, then &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;evolves&lt;/span&gt; back to Itself through a process of ever-increasing wholes. Hegel was only one of many idealists who attempted to describe this. Alfred North Whitehead is another. So are Sri Aurobindo, Ken Wilber, etc. The list is endless, and it all goes back to the Upanishads.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"What is it, knowing which, all else becomes known?" - This is a quote from the Upanishads. It speaks directly to this issue. Of course Brahman (the One Universal Consciousness) is the answer, and a person can come to "know" Brahman via spiritual practice (which really means becoming Brahman, since Brahman cannot be known as an object, since it is the eternal subject). But when one achieves Self-realization and "all else becomes known," this does not mean that all the particular causes of all the physical phenomenon of the universe become known. One does not become an expert in every field of study, in other words. What it means is that the cause of the universe as a whole becomes known, which relieves one of the inquiry so many people have as they keep searching for more and more material and efficient causes within matter, hoping to get a final explanation (an infinite regress).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;you&lt;/span&gt; might not care that science will never come to explain everything--the grand unified field theory or whatever they call it. This may not bother you. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;You&lt;/span&gt; may acknowledge that material and efficient causes of phenomena are infinite. But this certainly bothers a lot of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;other&lt;/span&gt; materialists. (Ok you are not a materialist.) They keep searching and believing they are getting closer and closer to explaining everything in the universe. The more deluded among them even posit a big bang and then just ignore the obvious question of what caused &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;it&lt;/span&gt;? What I am saying is simply that the ultimate question cannot be ignored. Or at least &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I&lt;/span&gt; cannot ignore it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Why is all this happening?&lt;/span&gt; Or similarly... &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Why is something happening rather than nothing?&lt;/span&gt; Materialism cannot answer this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Emanuel&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.metaresearch.org%3etom%20van%20flandern%3c/a%3E%20that%20the%20universe%20is%20infinite%20in%20time,%20space%20and%20scale,%20thus%20it%20makes%20sense%20that%20causes%20will%20continue%20to%20found%20ad%20infinitum.%20It%27s%20just%20the%20nature%20of%20the%20physical%20universe.%20Well,%20I%20happen%20to%20agree%20with%20Van%20Flandern,%20but%20still%20the%20question%20forces%20itself%20upon%20us;%20what%20cause%20all%20of%20this%20to%20be%20happening?%20You%20can%20trace%20both%20material%20and%20efficient%20causes%20back%20forever,%20but%20that%20only%20makes%20the%20question,%20" what="" caused="" process="" all="" more="" profound="" at="" least="" to="" answer="" we="" are="" given="" by="" eastern="" philosophy="" that="" whole="" universe="" projection="" infinite="" consciousness="" is="" both="" material="" and="" efficient="" cause="" the="" for="" a="" quick="" definition="" these="" two="" types="" of="" see="" org="" wiki="" material_cause="" this="" makes=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-3362190370333835009?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/3362190370333835009/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2009/01/materialism-vs-idealism.html#comment-form" title="4 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/3362190370333835009?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/3362190370333835009?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2009/01/materialism-vs-idealism.html" title="Materialism vs Idealism" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkcMQHoyfCp7ImA9WxVTFU8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-2274763880605108975</id><published>2008-12-28T14:46:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-28T20:14:41.494-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-28T20:14:41.494-08:00</app:edited><title>What Permaculture Doesn't Talk About</title><content type="html">I just finished reading an article by Vaclav Smil in the July, 1997 issue of Scientific American, titled "&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Global Population and the Nitrogen Cycle.&lt;/span&gt;" There is some very important stuff in here. Take this paragraph, for example:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"The combination of recycling human animal wastes along with planting green manures can, in principle, provide annually up to around 200 kilograms of nitrogen per hectare of arable land. The resulting 200 to 250 kilograms of plant protein that can be produced in this way sets the theoretical limit on population density: a hectare of farmland in places with good soil, adequate moisture and a mild climate that allows continuous cultivation throughout the year should be able to support as many as 15 people."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article goes on to say that historically the norm has been closer to five people supported per hectare of organically farmed land. This is due to things like periodic droughts and insect plagues, as well the need to grow non-food crops on the same land (for clothing, medicine, etc).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now a hectare is roughly two and a half acres. And an acre is slightly smaller than a football field. So this means that to keep somewhere around 10 people alive using organic methods today, you would need to cultivate two and a half football fields worth of food in a climate that allowed year-round cultivation. Think about that. And as you do, here is a visual aid, courtesy wikipedia: an image of an acre overlaid on a football field.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fd/Acre_over_football_field.svg/404px-Acre_over_football_field.svg.png" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To sum up the situation, here is another quote from the article:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Understanding these realities allows a clearer appraisal of prospects for organic farming. Crop rotations, legume cultivation, soil conservation (which keeps more nitrogen in the soil) and the recycling of organic wastes are all desirable techniques to employ. Yet these measures will not obviate the need for more fertilizer nitrogen in land-short, populous nations. If all farmers attempted to return to purely organic farming, they would quickly find that traditional practices could not feed today’s population. There is simply not enough recyclable nitrogen to produce food for six billion people."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How come you never hear this stuff in permaculture workshops?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And lastly, &lt;a href="http://www.sferios.com/docs/n2cycle.pdf"&gt;here is a pdf &lt;/a&gt; of the full article if you are interested.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-2274763880605108975?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/2274763880605108975/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2008/12/what-permaculture-doesnt-talk-about.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/2274763880605108975?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/2274763880605108975?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2008/12/what-permaculture-doesnt-talk-about.html" title="What Permaculture Doesn't Talk About" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;Dk8ASH48eSp7ImA9WxRaEk0.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-2746979562478709452</id><published>2008-12-13T13:22:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-13T13:47:29.071-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-13T13:47:29.071-08:00</app:edited><title>Mercenaries - America's #1 Export</title><content type="html">My friend Paul W. wrote the following in a recent email...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seems to me that one prong in the neocon strategy has been to manage the creative destruction of the US Dollar based global economy and reduce the expectation of consumers who are conditioned to use as much possible energy to make the economy grow.  This strategy also disempowers uppity workers who expect things like living wages and benefits.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It does seem like the neocons have lost control of the deleveraging operation, but I think the operation has long been anticipated to be one with numerous &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unknown_unknown"&gt;"known unknowns."&lt;/a&gt;  When I recall how some imagined the death of the US Dollar might unfold, the operation seems comparatively orderly so far.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The US is being transformed such that its mercenary forces will increasingly be one of its major exports (and one of remaining opportunities for people to "better themselves").&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The US state is a less important client of US mercenary forces because it can no longer be ignored that the US state is broke.  The US consumed most of the resources within its territory as quickly as possible without consideration of the future (and lost moral authority by trying to impose this behavior on other people and other states).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One reason the US burned through its resources, is because the US has tended to behave like a colony rather than a sovereign state, extracting value for the benefit of masters in the global plantation house.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those who act from behind the curtain of transnational corporations (and similar artificial entities) are now the primary market for US mercenary forces. That is why US forces are taking possession, and defending the possession, of resources in far away places on behalf of their clients.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We don't need no stinkin' factories. We have mercenary forces for hire.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-2746979562478709452?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/2746979562478709452/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2008/12/mercenaries-americas-1-export.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/2746979562478709452?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/2746979562478709452?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2008/12/mercenaries-americas-1-export.html" title="Mercenaries - America's #1 Export" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkUHQHk_eSp7ImA9WxRUF08.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-6288525572127986904</id><published>2008-11-26T10:52:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-26T11:37:11.741-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-11-26T11:37:11.741-08:00</app:edited><title>Synthetic CDOs and the Financial Crisis</title><content type="html">This is an online chat I recently had with my friend, Meletus. The article we are discussing is &lt;a href="http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/A-tsunami-of-hope-or-terror-LHRJP?OpenDocument"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: So when you say that people are "skimming the wealth", who are these people? I mean it looks like everybody is losing here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: did you read the article I sent to our list asking everyone to read it and comment? this is how they are skimming money, I think, or at least one of the mechanisms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: The Mechanism behind destroying the middle class?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: yes, bankrupting the US middle class&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: haven't read it&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: u should.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: I will...I do other things too during a typical day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: if they really have created this crisis on purpose, which has always been my belief, then this article gives the most detailed explanation I have seen yet of one of the main mechanisms by which they *could* be doing it. The author even shows how they built plausible deniability into the scam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: but wait. If they built this crisis on purpose, that means the current crisis is NOT directly caused by Peak Oil, as you said it was.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: what I've said was that it was *timed* to coincide with peak oil, because they knew the system was going to collapse at that time anyway. In other words, they knew that peak oil spells the end of industrial growth, and that when it hits, companies and individuals would start defaulting on their loans, go bankrupt, etc. People would no longer be needing credit, and the system would collapse. Knowing this was going to happen, they decided to pump the US middle class for all it was worth, timing it to just prior to the peak. Some analysts I  know think they might have timed it a bit too early, but others say they timed it perfectly. Remember all this started in 2000, the subprime lending, the Credit default Swaps, described in the article, etc. It has long been predicted that global oil production would peak sometime between 2005 and 2010. That gave them a good amount of time to get everyone into as much debt as possible.&lt;br /&gt;me: Here's the gist of the article: these packaged default swap things that the banks sold to individual investors had clauses in them saying that the investor will get a small one or two percent return on their investment UNLESS a certain number of these large financial institutions go bankrupt. If that happens, then the investor loses part or all of their original investment, and the bank gets to keep it. And the financial institutions listed in these contracts read like a list of the current ones which ARE going bankrupt. AIG, Lehman Brothers, etc. The contracts say that if so many of these go bankrupt, then you lose your money. So far the critical number has yet to go bankrupt, supposedly, but we are getting close. And supposedly the contracts were written such that a government bailout often still counts as a bankruptcy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: So the author says that the banks who were issuing these contracts knew exactly which institutions were going to go bankrupt, that it was/is a scam, and that if just a few more go bankrupt, the tipping point will be reached and millions of individual investors will end up losing all their money to the banks. It would be the largest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the banks in all of history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: you say "the banks" but all I hear and read about these days is that banks are in deep trouble.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: you need to read the article. Of course some banks will go under, but the big ones will make off like bandits. Also, its important to remember that the investment institutions that were listed in the contracts... like GM, or AIG, for example, were not all banks. They were any entity that had invested in these packaged mortgages. And supposedly the amount of money out there in these CDOs (Collaterized Debt Obligations) that were sold to individual middle class investors, is so much that it might end the banks' credit problems if they get to collect on them. So the only people who are going to get screwed are the individual investors who bought them under false pretenses. This is the premise of the article. I have always thought something like this was going on, yet I am not an expert, so I don't know if the article is correct. But if what the guy is saying is correct, then it explains at least one mechanism the banks are using to bankrupt the middle class.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: I'm not sure I understand it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: well, these CDOs are complex. Basically they are bets that one investor makes against another that certain mortages will default. The article explains it better than I could.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: What middle class person buys CDOs?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: lots. they are disguesed to look like safe investments. that's the whole point. Every mortgage has a rating based on the borrowers financials, which determines the liklihood of default. But what they did was package these mortages into bundles of like 100 or so, and sell them with an "average" rating, or even a completely fraudulent rating, to disguise the bad apples. Investors bought them not realizing this. Supposedly there is obvious fraud involving these ratings agencies. I've heard some people say there should be prosecutions. There certainly are many lawsuits being filed by  investors who have lost money.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: Here's the link again: http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/A-tsunami-of-hope-or-terror-LHRJP?OpenDocument&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: reading it now... how can you understand this shit?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: well, i've been reading a shitload of late about this stuff. it's all based on mortgages. keep reading, you will understand more towards the end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: wtf is a credit default swap?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: it's something like a contract between a bank or owner of a mortgage, and an individual investor, betting on a package of mortgages, as to whether the debtors will default. if the debtors don't default (or a certain percentage of them), then the investor gets a one to two percent on the money they gave the bank. But if a critical number default, then the investor loses the money. the bank just keeps it. Something like that. And mortgages supposedly have ratings to help all the players know the risks, but these agencies were now rating these new kind of "mortgage bundles" (called "synthetic CDOs") that were not reflective of the actual risk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: so people thought they were buying a low-risk, low-reward security, but actually were buying a high-risk, low-reward security instead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: yeah, and and it didn't appear that high risk, because it was tied in with the survival of these large investment institutions,  insurance giants, major corporations, etc. Who would have thought in 2007 that AIG or Lehman brothers would go bankrupt? And you would only really get screweed if a certain number of these major institutions went bankrupt. And then in 2008... presto! That is exactly what we are seeing. It's a giant scam, a fraud that is going to transfer massive amounts of wealth from individual investors to the banks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: wait. screwed how? Imagine I am a customer wanting to buy these things...whatever the fuck they are called...CDOs. Say, I have $20,000 I want to invest. What exactly am I buying? I am buying a piece of hundreds of mortgages that have been bundled and graded according to some scale. AAA being the most safe, AA less, and so on. So, as long as these mortgages continue to be paid off, I make a share of the interest. But if some of them default, I lose part of my investment. But since it is rated AAA, I agree to buy them, thinking almost everyone will be able to make their mortgage payments and I'll collect some of the interest. Maybe some people will default and I won't make much or I might lose a little. But there's no way that a significant number of mortgages will default...because after all, it is AAA. So, I'm taking a small risk for a small reward.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: that sounds about right&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: But now people are defaulting on mortgages left and right, and I didn't expect that to happen. So, I'm going to lose part of my investment. Maybe a significant part.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: maybe all of it. right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: But now, what the FUCK do the failure of these institutions have to do with this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: that's a good question. In the article, the author writes, "Those investors who bother to read the fine print will see that they will lose some or all of their money if seven, eight or nine of a long list of apparently strong global corporations go broke. In 2004-2006 it seemed money for jam. The companies listed would never go broke – it was unthinkable." So what do these institutions have to do with the safety of the investment, either for the bank or for the invidvidual investor?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: you are saying that the fine print on these contracts say something to the effect of "Even if all the mortgages involved in your CDO continue to be paid off, if these institutions go bankrupt, you lose your entire investment."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: yeah, this gets very confusing. I think what is going on here is that these institutions are actually the ones *owning* the mortgages, also in package deals, but with slightly safer terms. The banks were investing *their* money, spreading out the risk. So even if some of the mortgages in a package default, these big investment companies were not losing huge amounts. The package of mortgages itself was still viable. And so *your* investment in it was still viable too.  It was only when a huge number of mortgages started defaulting--such that it threatened the very solubility of the lending institution--that your fine print would kick in and you would lose major percentages of your investment, or all of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: but don't the people who originally borrowed the money still OWE it? For example, I have two mortgages. No doubt they were packaged and sold as a CDO. If I default on one or both of them, don't I still owe the fucking money? none of this makes any sense.&lt;br /&gt;me: Sure you owe the money, but if you don't' have it, then the institution (or individual investor) who owns your mortgage owns something worthless. If they can sell your defaulted house and recoup the money, then fine. But if the prices of the house drops lower than the balance, then the remaining money is simply gone. It doesn't matter if it is still "owed." You cannot pay it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: So they put a clause in the CDO contract saying if this happens, then we have the right to take the principle out of your investment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: right. a percentage of your investment depending on how many of the institutions fail&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meletus: See, I can trick myself into thinking I understand now. But really I don't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me: For me, I feel that I understand what he is describing. I just don't know if all the details are true or not. I get the concepts, but have no idea as to whether its actually what is happening the way he describes. I know *something* like this is happening. I know this crisis was manufactured, and was not simply an accident resulting from greedy individual bankers wanting to make fees by selling more financial products. At the very least it was *allowed* to happen. For example, here is a wiki link to the Commodities Futures Modernization Act that the author mentions in the article. This was rammed through congress. It was no accident, and essentially removed government oversight from these new financial products. The FED was aware of all this. They let it happen at the very least.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-----&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also sent Mike Ruppert this article and asked him his opinion. Here is his response:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"This is only a part of a total $700 trillion derivatives bubble with all kinds of strange "instruments" which most of us haven't heard of. It's all extremely complex and no one I think, is capable of understanding every twist in the intestines of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Stay with the big picture: the derivatives buble is busrting. I have little knowledge of CDOs. But I do know that they are derivatives. This guy has a small piece of the overall picture which I won't accept as a cause. A derivative is a derivative."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-6288525572127986904?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/6288525572127986904/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2008/11/synthetic-cdos-and-financial-crisis.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/6288525572127986904?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/6288525572127986904?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2008/11/synthetic-cdos-and-financial-crisis.html" title="Synthetic CDOs and the Financial Crisis" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEYDSXozeip7ImA9WxRUEkw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-1354351472347077481</id><published>2008-11-18T09:06:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-20T13:22:58.482-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-11-20T13:22:58.482-08:00</app:edited><title>The End of Imperial Expansion</title><content type="html">(The following is a response to an email from my friend, Remo, in Jersey City. His original email is at the end.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's wrong to see what is happening today in colonial or cold war terms, because the age of economic expansion is over. Peak oil has ended the conceit of global empire or one-world government. Now begins a global contraction, where no country nor network of corporate elites has enough power or resources to expand their sphere of influence. Today, countries only want to secure energy resources, so they can survive and keep their populations from revolting. The US invaded and occupied Iraq simply to control its oil (Afghanistan is only about drugs, because the amount of oil in the Caspian region proved to be much less than what was believed to be there originally). And this is about all the US can afford militarily. There's not enough money (i.e. energy) around for the US to fight in Venezuela, Iran, Cuba, etc. What money would they use to pay the soldiers, even if they instituted a draft? And besides, the elites in those countries no longer believe the US is their best option. They are allying with Russia and China now. In the past, it was the Soviet threat that persuaded the wealthy in Latin America to join forces with the US. This allowed the CIA to easily recruit agents, foment coups, etc. People hated Soviet-style communism. But that threat is gone now. There is no need anymore to seek protection from the US. Look what happened in Venezuela, for example, the last time the CIA tried to foment a coup. Even the military turned against the coup leaders, and the coup attempt failed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today, Russia and China are not attempting to force socialism in Latin America. They are merely solidifying their oil contracts by giving military and other economic assistance to these countries. Latin America only benefits from this. Ideology (capitalism vs. communism) are not driving factors anymore.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what is happening in this regard cannot be blamed on the Bush Administration. The "military solution" for the middle east has been planned for a long time, at least for two decades in fact. The first Gulf War and the eight years of Clinton-backed sanctions were preparation for 2003 invasion. It was an attempt to weaken Iraqi military capability as much as possible and turn the people against Saddam Hussein in the hopes that when the US does invade, there will be less resistance. (Read &lt;a href="http://www.newsociety.com/bookid/3825"&gt;Behind the War on Terror&lt;/a&gt; by Nafeez Ahmed.) So the US elites are not going to punish the Bush's. They are most likely thanking them right now, because if the US hadn't invaded Iraq, Iraq would have allied with Russia and China. Remember Iraq was going to open a new oil bourse in Euros just prior to the invasion. (Iran &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Oil_Bourse"&gt;just opened one&lt;/a&gt; this year.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other words, things are still going according to plan. The only difference is that the Iraqi resistance has proved to be much more capable than predicted, and the war is costing a lot more than hoped for. But the US is not going to abandon the oil in Iraq. They cannot do that. So the new plan is to partition Iraq into three countries, and Obama is not going to pull out the troops until this happens. Furthermore, permanent US bases will remain in the oil-rich regions. This is why Biden was chosen for VP. He's a PNAC player. See these two links by Mark Robinowitz.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.oilempire.us/biden.html"&gt;http://www.oilempire.us/biden.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.oilempire.us/new-map.html"&gt;http://www.oilempire.us/new-map.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To summarize... for a long time the powers that be in the US knew the world was going to divide itself up again into nation-state alliances for control of energy. The dream of a corporate-controlled, one-world government (i.e. the "New World Order") ended as soon as the reality of peak oil was understood. As &lt;a href="http://mikeruppert.blogspot.com/"&gt;Mike Ruppert&lt;/a&gt; explained in a lecture four years ago in Seattle, "Without abundant oil to drive corporate dominance, geography once again defines political power."  And the elites understood this decades ago. Remember that US oil production peaked in the 70s, and world discoveries of new oil fields peaked in the 60s. So it did not take a rocket scientist to predict when the global economy was going to collapse (just a few petroleum geologists). The IEA just last week released a report predicting a 9.1% decline in output from existing world oil fields, and new fields being brought online are only expected to increase output by about 3%. This is a 6% decline in overall oil output, beginning right now, and which is predicted to continue year after year, forever. (Read theoildrum.com for the best information and discussion about energy.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what we are seeing now is unique. The major world powers are actually narrowing their spheres of influence to only the oil-rich regions. (Watch Obama go into West Africa sometime during his first term--I wonder what the pretext will be). They are neglecting the rest of the world, the places without energy resources. This is how things are very different from the cold war and the days of imperial expansion. We are living in a very significant time in history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Emanuel&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&gt; Central America has been the USA's colonial empire for&lt;br /&gt;&gt; 100 plus years. Now China is moving in and taking over.&lt;br /&gt;&gt; The ruling class is going to shoot all the Bush's for&lt;br /&gt;&gt; fucking things up so bad.&lt;br /&gt;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&gt; REMO&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-1354351472347077481?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/1354351472347077481/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2008/11/end-of-imperial-expansion.html#comment-form" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/1354351472347077481?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/1354351472347077481?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2008/11/end-of-imperial-expansion.html" title="The End of Imperial Expansion" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkIDR34zfip7ImA9WxRVGUo.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-8229789764450348186</id><published>2008-11-17T19:09:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-17T19:22:56.086-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-11-17T19:22:56.086-08:00</app:edited><title>How the FED Increases the Money Supply</title><content type="html">I did some research to learn details on exactly how the FED creates new money in order to increase the money supply. This is fascinating. Here is how it works:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, fractional reserve banking rules require that the FED maintain a certain percentage of their loans in actual physical currency, like cash or government securities. In other words, they are allowed to loan their member banks money based on the amount of physical reserves they have. Another way of saying this is that the amount of money their member banks are allowed to loan out to you and I is based on how much physical currency the FED has in reserve, meaning inside the vaults of their 12 "Reserve Banks." So the question becomes, "how does the FED increase its reserves."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The FED increases its reserves (the actual hard currency stored in their vaults), by "purchasing" government securities. (I put the word "purchasing" in quotes for a reason, which I will get to in a moment.) Since the FED's reserves are now larger, they can loan more money to the member banks, who in turn loan money to individuals, businesses, other banks, etc. The multiplier effect then kicks in, which creates new money in the economy. Say I take out a $10,000 loan to buy a car. The car dealership takes my check and deposits it into another bank. That bank then just increased it's own, local reserves by $10,000. This allows them to loan out $9,000 to someone else. That person then deposits the $9,000 into a different bank, which can then loan out $8,000, etc. On down the line. In the end $90,000 of new money is created for every $10,000 initial deposit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the multiplier effect is not the only way the money supply increases, because when the FED purchases government securities, it does so with a FED check, which is a totally &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;new&lt;/span&gt; form of money. In other words, when the FED writes a check, new money is created out of thin air. But keep reading, because things get even more interesting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Government securities (like Treasury Bills) are paper promissory notes the government sells on the open market to raise money, which they then promise to pay back at a fixed time later, with a bit of interest. The government issues securities (various bonds, T-bills, etc.) in order to raise money, which increases the national debt, because these notes must be paid back when called upon (so long as it is past the maturation date issued on the note).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So when the FED wants to increase it's reserves, it purchases government securities with FED checks (new money remember), but it doesn't purchase newly issued securities directly from the government. It purchases them from the open market, from individuals and private institutions who have already bought them and who want to sell. These sellers then deposit the FED check into their local bank, and the multiplier effect again takes over. So the money supply increases even more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And note that as the fed accumulates more and more government securities, the US government owes more and more money to the FED. But check this out. The FED doesn't &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;need&lt;/span&gt; government money, because they are the ones who have the the power to print money anytime they want! And indeed, the FED has &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;never&lt;/span&gt; sold a government security, ever. In its entire history, it has &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;never&lt;/span&gt; decreased the money supply by selling its government securities and reducing its reserves.  For 90+ years it has only been buying up US government securities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This reminds of of something Anthony Sutton said. He told his father once (who was a member of Skull and Bones), that he was worried about how large the national debt was growing, and his father laughed and said, "Don't worry son. We are loaning it to ourselves." Of course, by "ourselves" he means the rich and powerful who control both the FED and the government. He doesn't mean a government representing the people. And any time it wants the FED could call in these securities, making the government pay them back. But why would it do this? Certainly not when the economy is growing, because during a period of growth it can just keep playing the same game, issuing more money so banks can make more loans and collect interest. But when the economy stops growing, when nobody is taking out more loans, the game ends, and we are left with a situation where the US government now owes a shit load of money to the FED, and the only way the government can pay back this money now is by taxing the people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No wonder the powers that be (including wall street and the banking cartel) are supporting Obama now, and the media is saying more taxation is good. In the past, they didn't want the government to raise money by taxes. They wanted the government to raise money by issuing securities and increasing its debt. But now that peak oil has arrived and the game is up, they are going to create more taxes and transfer as much of the remaining money to them, in the form of bailouts and perhaps even by calling in their treasury bills. Maybe China will join them. Won't things be fun then!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-8229789764450348186?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/8229789764450348186/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2008/11/how-fed-increases-money-supply.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/8229789764450348186?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/8229789764450348186?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2008/11/how-fed-increases-money-supply.html" title="How the FED Increases the Money Supply" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;Ck8ERHk9eyp7ImA9WB9bGUs.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-5969017314201326005</id><published>2007-12-29T12:33:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-29T12:40:05.763-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-12-29T12:40:05.763-08:00</app:edited><title>Oh right. I have this blog thing.</title><content type="html">Wow it's been over a year since I began this blog, made two posts, and then promptly forgot about it. A recent google search on my name (I know, it's all vanity) reminded me of it, so here I am again. Maybe I'll actually start posting stuff. I &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;have&lt;/span&gt; been writing, just not publicly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Emanuel&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-5969017314201326005?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/5969017314201326005/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2007/12/oh-right-i-have-this-blog-thing.html#comment-form" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/5969017314201326005?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/5969017314201326005?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2007/12/oh-right-i-have-this-blog-thing.html" title="Oh right. I have this blog thing." /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0IFRn4_eyp7ImA9WBNbGE0.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-115880143028881848</id><published>2006-09-20T18:09:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-20T18:18:37.043-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2006-09-20T18:18:37.043-07:00</app:edited><title>9/11 Five Years Later</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;An Assessment of the 9/11 Truth Movement&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By Emanuel Sferios&lt;br /&gt;Monday, Sep 11, 2006&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Five years ago--on my birthday--the shadow government of the United States murdered over 3,000 of its own citizens (and hundreds of others) in a "false flag" operation designed to galvanize public support behind a war for control of the world's last remaining energy reserves. Many of us quickly saw through the "big lie" of 9/11 and began a movement to expose it, to reveal the truth, in the hopes that this would bring an end to the War on Terror, a war destined--if it continues--to turn nuclear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now, five years later, what have we accomplished?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In short, everything and nothing. We began this movement to convince the American public and the world that the official story of 9/11 was a lie, and that ruling factions within our own government were the real perpetrators. This we accomplished. Opinion polls conducted over the last two years show that the majority of Americans believe the US government was complicit. We bombarded every mainstream and alternative medium available with information, from Air America to internet blogs. We handed out leaflets in cities and towns across the country, held signs on street corners, wrote letters to everyone we could think of. And you know what? It worked. Today it is rare that I talk to a person who doesn't believe the US government was involved in the attacks in some way. Compared to just two years ago, when people would look at us like we were crazy for suggesting such a thing, this is an amazing success.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or so it seems. For at the same time, not a single perpetrator of 9/11 has been prosecuted, and the War on Terror continues unabated, as does the endless stream of lies and propaganda designed to keep us fearful and compliant. Why this discrepancy? What accounts for the 9/11 Truth Movement's seeming victory in shattering the American public's blind acceptance of the official story, and the stark reality that nothing has changed politically? In other words, why, in the midst of total success, have we failed?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the question I have been asking myself over the last few years. As co-founder of the first national activist organization for 9/11 truth, the 9/11 Visibility Project (http://www.septembereleventh.org), I devoted two full years of my life to building this movement. And to see it grow from a handful of struggling yet dedicated individuals into the enormous yet ultimately ineffective movement it is today, saddens me to no end. Thus for me this is not merely an academic question. I mean it honestly: why, in the midst of a seeming total success, have we failed?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The answer to this question, many have concluded, involves the lack of political will of the people of the United States. It is one thing to know the truth, and quite another to act upon that truth. Democracy Now is a case in point. A great many of us have had conversations with Amy Goodman and the other producers of Democracy Now, and they all know the official story of 9/11 is a lie. Yet except for a few segments we forced them to air as a result of our public pressure campaign (where they for the most part ridiculed us), they have chosen not only to ignore 9/11 truth, but to affirm the official story again and again in their programming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many other examples can be given, not only from the left media, but from senators, congressmen, Eliot Spitzer, etc. How many of these people know the truth, yet do nothing? (Cynthia McKinney may be the one notable exception). Where is the political will?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But to blame the American people alone for their lack of courage in opposing US imperialism fails to ultimately answer the question, for we must also ask why such a lack of courage exists in the first place. Certainly it isn't a lack of courage in general. The American population regularly demonstrates great courage and political will when it comes to social and domestic issues. And neither do I believe, as some cynical observers claim, that the majority of Americans secretly support US imperialism, that given the choice they would rather see millions of innocent foreigners die than reduce their own oil consumption and powerdown. If such was the case, there would have been no need for a 9/11, and there would be no need for the ongoing lies and deceptions. Simply citing the lack of political will among the American public thus begs the question, for the answer we seek is exactly that which accounts for this lack of courage when facing the truth of 9/11.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is my assessment. The reason for the discrepancy between what people know about 9/11 and what they are willing to do to stop the War on Terror; the reason we have ultimately failed, in other words, has to do with the scope and sophistication of the political and social control mechanisms used against us; namely, disruption and disinformaiton. I have been an activist for 20 years, and I have seen and experienced COINTELPRO-style disruption many times in the past. Yet never before have I witnessed it used on such a scale and with such precision as I have within the 9/11 Truth Movement. There are thousands of examples, but let me give you just a few.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. When we launched our Democracy Now campaign, we asked activists and the general public to send them emails requesting they have David Ray Griffin on their show. We provided a sample letter, but encouraged people to write their own, and we asked them always to be polite. We also provided them the email addresses to send their letters, and we included our own email address in the mix, so we could see what kinds of letters Democracy Now was receiving. What happened was very telling. For every two or three emails they received that were respectful and well-written, they received one that was either highly insulting, vehemently anti-semitic, or down-right ludicrous. The timing and repetitive use of specific phrases among many of these emails revealed a coordinated effort to disrupt our campaign and convince Democracy Now not to associate with us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. When we launched our campaign to get the attorney General of New York State, Eliot Spitzer, to open a new investigation into 9/11, we began an online petition drive and received thousands of signatures. Shortly after our campaign website went up, another website was launched duplicating our campaign and promoting preposterous claims designed to make the 9/11 Truth Movement appear ridiculous. Thus a clear message was sent to Eliot Spitzer that opening a new investigation into 9/11 could easily destroy his reputation by associating with people who believe, among other nonsense, that the planes on 9/11 were merely holograms inserted onto TV screens.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And these are just examples of reactive disruption efforts (in response to things we do), which aren't even the primary methods they use against us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Controlling Your Opposition by Becoming It&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One lesson the shadow government has learned over the last 40 years is that the best way to defeat your opposition is to become your opposition, and like many of those phony socialist and anti-war groups on college campuses that suck rebellious student energy and dissipate it ineffectively, preventing the formation of a legitimate, effective opposition, so have they taken over a large part of the 9/11 Truth Movement itself, channeling new skeptics (and old) into endless debates around physical evidence and other ineffective actions. During my entire time within the movement, I never once named publicly any individuals or websites I thought were intentionally promoting disinformation, or leading us down useless avenues, nor will I now. (This is to protect myself from reprisals, to avoid the further disruption caused by the endless cycle of "snitch jacketing," and because you can never really prove who is an agent and who is simply duped by the disinfo itself, much of which is easily believable on the surface.) But to prove that agents are among us, and that they have succeeded in taking over the bulk of the movement, one needs to go no further than compare the number of people who believe no plane hit the Pentagon with the number of people who know about the simultaneous wargames that were taking place on the morning of 9/11, and that prevented NORAD from intercepting the planes before they hit their targets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The former claim, widely believed, is perhaps the most successful and sophisticated disinformation campaign injected into the 9/11 Truth Movement. Supported by doctored video footage released by the Pentagon itself, it has almost single-handedly made the movement the laughing stock of Washington DC residents, hundreds of whom saw the plane hit the building, and thousands of whom have relatives or friends who did. And this was likely its intention, for it has successfully alienated from the movement precisely those DC professionals (senators, congressmen, federal judges, prosecutors, etc.) who hold enough power to effectively investigate and prosecute the crime. It has also been the primary wedge used to divide the movement from itself. While there is no space here to delve into the details of the "no plane at the Pentagon" hoax, I am forever indebted to Mark Robinowitz (http://www.oilempire.us) for having the stubborn persistency to keep challenging me back when I, too, believed the hoax. I am also immensely grateful to Jim Hoffman for his unparalleled analysis of the Pentagon physical evidence (http://911research.wtc7.net).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand, the wargames comprise the very heart of the operation. On the morning of 9/11 itself, the FAA and NORAD were occupied in air defense drills simulating none other than multiple airline hijackings. These drills included fake blips inserted onto their radar screens, as well as remotely controlled aircraft in the air posing as passenger jets. Thus the perpetrators of 9/11 (those overseeing the wargames) were able to incapacitate the US air defense system without having to order a stand-down, allowing the operation to succeed. Because of the wargames, NORAD personnel did not know where to send the fighter jets when the supposedly "real" hijackings took place (likely also being flown by remote control). They acknowledged this during the 9/11 Commission hearings, with no follow-up questioning of course.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How many people have heard of the wargames compared to the "no plane at the Pentagon" theory? How many 9/11 Truth websites make reference to the wargames compared with the Pentagon hoax? And how many 9/11 truth activist organizations do you know emphasizing the wargames as opposed to all the various physical evidence arguments? The answer to these questions will tell you a lot about the state of the movement, and who really controls it. (Incidentally, the world should be forever indebted to Mike Ruppert (http://www.fromthewilderness.com), who put the pieces together about the wargames and presented them in their proper light, first on stage to a small audience in Toronto, which included myself, and then in full detail in his book, Crossing the Rubicon.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we shouldn't place all the blame upon those individuals who willfully ignore the truth of 9/11. Certainly there is an element of cowardice involved, a lack of integrity, and a selling out. We know, for example, that Democracy Now received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Ford Foundation specifically to report on 9/11. But what would happen to Democracy Now if Amy Goodman chose integrity over money? The same thing, perhaps, that happened to Mike Ruppert? This is not to excuse Goodman's willful ignorance, her selling out to the very government she professes to oppose. (I don't listen to her show anymore, but I read From The Wilderness every day.) I simply want to recognize the immense power of that government, a power that can murder 3,000 people and get away with it, a power that can induce good activists to sell out, and better ones to flee the country. (Living to fight another day is not so condemnable, after all.) Herein lies an important factor in our failure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More About Disinformation&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the characteristics of 9/11 disinformation a lot of people have a hard time grasping is that much of it is designed specifically to convince people of US government complicity in 9/11. This might seem like a contradiction, until one understands that 9/11 disinfo is part of a broader system of mass manipulation where the opposing perspective plays an essential role. The basic idea is to control both sides of the debate, and frame it in a way that makes the opposing side ineffective (not necessarily unbelievable). In the end it doesn't matter whether even a majority of the people believe the US government was complicit in 9/11 (this is already the case). What matters is only that the perpetrators can never successfully be prosecuted. Thus they pollute the body of evidence with red herrings and false lines of inquiry. If, in the process, they happen to cause some people to disbelieve the official story (as in the case with the "no plane at the Pentagon" hoax), all the better, because the end result is a weakening of any legal case that might be brought against them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is an important quote by E. Martin Schotz from his book, History Will Not Absolve Us: Orwellian Control, Public Denial, and the Murder of President Kennedy. It is: "One of the primary means of immobilizing the American people politically today is to hold them in a state of confusion in which anything can be believed and nothing can be known." Conspiracy theories, in other words, provide the perfect cover for real conspiracies. When anything can be believed because the available information is a convoluted mix of truth, falsehood and probability; when the actual truth itself is convoluted, involving deception, mystery and illusion; then one is ultimately left to their own emotions to decide. And emotions, of course, can be easily manipulated. What do you want to believe? After all, it's up to you. You'll never know the truth, or at least you'll never be able to prove it in a court of law. Do you really want to be marginalized and ridiculed as a conspiracy theorist? You get the idea.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The World Trade Center Collapse: A Necessary Illusion&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my two years of 9/11 truth activism, I never emphasized the physical evidence. I always knew it was a dead end that would suck the movement's energy and accomplish nothing. But let me be straight up for a moment, if a bit speculative, because thinking about these things is helpful. They demolished the World Trade Center towers with explosives. I have no doubt about this, just as I have no doubt that the planes were flown by remote control. I also believe that hijackers did, in fact, board the planes (despite the articles claiming some of those named are still alive). I think the hijackers were trained US operatives (patsies), and that they likely did not know they were going to die. I also think the most probable explanation for the shoot-down of flight 93 is that the passengers did, in fact, storm the cockpit, only to discover that the plane was being flown by remote control. And so in order to prevent any of them from calling their loved ones and blabbing (yes, phones can work on planes), they had to shoot it down. Or perhaps the hijackers themselves learned their real fate and allowed the passengers into the cockpit to try to regain control of the aircraft. We'll never really know, and this is the idea. "Anything can be believed," and so it is equally plausible, as others have speculated, that the shoot-down of Flight 93 was planned from the beginning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the World Trade Center demolition is obvious, which leads to an important question: why did they do it? Wouldn't simply crashing the planes into the buildings have been enough? Why bring them down completely? The typical responses here apply: They needed their "New Pearl Harbor," a mass casualty event to shock the public into supporting a retaliatory war. They also needed a spectacle that wouldn't be easily forgotten. These explanations are true enough. Another often cited and plausible one is that they needed to make the lie obvious enough that the people who mattered (government, corporate, and military leaders, for example) would know that they--the secret government within the government--did this and got away with it. This sends a powerful message of invincibility to anyone who might be thinking of opposing them. And the fact that they demolished building 7 later that evening in a classic-style demolition sure seems to support that argument. It's as if they were saying, "just in case you didn't get it the first time, we'll show you one even more obvious."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But there is another reason they demolished the World Trade Center towers, in my opinion the most important reason, which is that they needed the lie to be incredible. As Hitler and Goebbels understood, the bigger and more incredible the lie, the more people will believe it, because they will have to make a bigger psychological leap in order to disbelieve it. Mass manipulation of this kind plays on the natural desire many people have to conform, and it is much more difficult, psychologically, for the conforming individual to disbelieve a popularly-held incredible lie than a mundane one, for to do so would set one widely apart from the herd. To put this another way, imagine if they had merely crashed four planes into the ocean. How much easier it would be then for people to speculate that the government may have done this as a pretext for war. To do so would not require a really incredible contradiction of the official story, marginalizing oneself from the mainstream. It would not be so easy to dismiss such claims as "outrageous conspiracy theory," and ridicule would be less effective. What is important to remember here is that propaganda of this sort is not designed to fool critical thinkers, but to provide conforming individuals with a reason not to start thinking critically. Thus the total destruction of the World Trade Center in such a dramatic yet obvious way was, in my opinion, an essential, psychological component of the operation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note: I have assumed that the reader of this article has some familiarity with the 9/11 Truth movement, and at least a rudimentary understanding of the physics involved in the World Trade Center Collapse. If not, there is an excellent, brand new DVD available: an in-depth analysis of the WTC Collapse from scientists Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan. Steven Jones is a professor of physics at BYU, who has risked his reputation to challenge the government's official "pancake" theory of the collapse. A sincere and courageous academic who dared to come forward with the truth, he has subsequently been approached by less honest persons who many believe are trying to tarnish his reputation, in part by association with repugnant, anti-semitic viewpoints. And Kevin Ryan is a former lab manager at Underwriters Labs, the company that tested and certified the steel used in the World Trade Center. He was fired when he went public with information about the cover-up in a whistle-blowing letter we first published in November of 2004. In this DVD he explains in detail why the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) report on the World Trade Center collapse is a lie. This is a professionally produced DVD with high-quality illustrations and graphics. Even if you are not new to the physics of the World Trade Center Collapse, it's worth watching. We are offering this DVD for a small donation (http://www.septembereleventh.org/donations.php).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Conclusion&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the Spring of this year, I gave a presentation on 9/11 truth to the Howard Dean supporters during a Democracy For America conference in Portland, Oregon. Here is an mp3 of my talk if you want to listen to it: (http://septembereleventh.org/documents/deaniac.mp3). I felt bad afterwards because there were a lot of new and enthusiastic 9/11 truth activists in the audience, folks who had only recently broke free from the matrix, so to speak, and I basically told them that I felt the movement was over, that we had failed, and that the window of opportunity for obtaining justice for 9/11 was closed for good. While I still believe this, after my talk I realized I didn't leave any of these new activists with much hope. I want to try and do that now. Yet I don't want to reaffirm a false hope that the perpetrators of 9/11 will ever be prosecuted. Rather, I want to try to help people transcend and integrate the truth of 9/11 into a broader awareness of the state of the world today, a world where there is much to be hopeful about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The world today stands on the brink of a confluence three major, global crises: peak oil, global warming and the imminent collapse of the global banking system. All of these are inter-related, and have greed as their ultimate cause. Greed is the common human trait of wanting more than one really needs to be healthy and happy. It exists in (almost) all of us, to varying degrees. Gluttony, for example, the desire for more food or drink than one really needs, is a form of greed. So is lust. Envy, the desire to have what others have, is another form of greed. Greed, to put it another way, is the psyche's unquenchable thirst for ever-increasing amounts of material energy. It is the false identification of the Self with the material world, and while I don't want to get overly religious or spiritual here, it is important to understand this, because it allows us to empathize with those whom we may perceive as our enemies, those whom we believe are somehow different from us (yet there really is no "other"). It is only with compassion that we can begin to see the true nature of 9/11, the truth behind the truth, so to speak.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9/11 was a pretext to launch the War on Terror, a war to control the world's remaining energy reserves in order to maintain the over-consumptive lifestyle that Dick Cheney insists is "not negotiable." And the War on Terror was conceived in response to peak oil, which threatens to end the current system of corporate greed, over-consumption and exploitation. That system requires ever-increasing amounts of material energy to continue, and peak oil is nothing less than the end of that increase. The War on Terror is, therefore, a war on "terra" to maintain the illusion of perpetual growth, the myth that over-consumption can go on forever. It is an extreme manifestation of the ego's desperate attempt to live forever, and it is doomed to fail. The earth is finite, and we cannot continue to to deplete its energy forever.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This can be seen as a crisis, which certainly it is, but it is only so in the sense that it demands a transformation of our political and economic systems, our consumption-based lifestyles, and our self-identities. As such it is also an opportunity, an opportunity to transcend our own greed, to face the truth of who we really are (interconnected with everyone else, and with the earth), and to make the necessary and inevitable sacrifices required of us. (Remember that sacrifice is not the giving up of the things we need. It is the giving up of the things we don't need, including our illusions.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The neocons are so far unable to make this necessary transformation. They are trapped in the very system they have created, but there are those all across the planet who are trying, starting small and making some of the necessary sacrifices. People are struggling everywhere to create cooperative institutions of mutual aid and solidarity, to resist the forces of ignorance and greed. One needs look no further then the Bolivarian Revolution sweeping across Central and South America to understand this. And there are many people here in the US, as well, exerting the same efforts, implementing a powerdown strategy and working towards the re-localization of social and political institutions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The question lies in whether the forces of light (reason, compassion, truth) will overcome the forces of darkness (greed, fear, ignorance), whether the spirit of the Bolivarian Revolution will sweep over the world, or whether the neocons and their counterparts in other countries will sweep the world away. This is up to us to decide, both collectively and individually, and we are constantly making that decision every moment, in every action we undertake. In that light, let us always remember that we can't really fight fire with fire. We fight fire with water, and to the degree that we have failed thus far to end the War on Terror, is to the degree that we have based our own actions--our own activism--on anger or fear. I am no exception, and yet like many, I aspire.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Towards Peace and Truth,&lt;br /&gt;Emanuel&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-115880143028881848?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/115880143028881848/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2006/09/911-five-years-later.html#comment-form" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/115880143028881848?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/115880143028881848?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2006/09/911-five-years-later.html" title="9/11 Five Years Later" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CkIDSXs4eyp7ImA9WBNUFEw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33859499.post-115740969939371163</id><published>2006-09-04T13:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-04T15:56:18.533-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2006-09-04T15:56:18.533-07:00</app:edited><title>What More Could I Ask For?</title><content type="html">Hey Stathia! Way back in College I remember reading an essay by Kurt Vonnegut where he said he writes all his books as if he is writing personally to his sister. Since then I have always thought that if I ever wrote something public (a book, or in this case a blog) I would do the same thing, because in all my life I've found no better audience than you. And that's not simply because you understand me better than anyone, but rather because you so often &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;don't&lt;/span&gt;. Nobody challenges me to rethink my bullshit more than you, always without judgment, and occasionally with some grace. What more could I ask for?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus begins my first ever blog, exactly one week before my 37th birthday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your brother,&lt;br /&gt;Emanuel&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5404/3722/1600/meandsis.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5404/3722/320/meandsis.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/33859499-115740969939371163?l=sferios.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/feeds/115740969939371163/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2006/09/what-more-could-i-ask-for.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/115740969939371163?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/33859499/posts/default/115740969939371163?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://sferios.blogspot.com/2006/09/what-more-could-i-ask-for.html" title="What More Could I Ask For?" /><author><name>Emanuel Sferios</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16134962375110299620</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_nbC6vWwO0sg/R6kZMW4UU7I/AAAAAAAAAAU/euZvVssKJKw/S220/me-smokies-7-07.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>

