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Childs" /><category term="terrorism" /><category term="Doctrine of Scripture" /><category term="P. Stuhlmacher" /><category term="Covenant" /><category term="R. Hays" /><category term="W. Brueggemann" /><category term="Quote of the day" /><category term="Ecumenism" /><category term="Authority of Scripture" /><category term="poetry" /><category term="Prophets" /><category term="Historical Theology" /><category term="Global Church" /><category term="Books" /><title>Narrative and Ontology</title><subtitle type="html">OLD TESTAMENT THEOLOGY: The "OT" bit references historical, literary, cultural issues (the particulars), the "theology" bit references the Big Picture (and why it matters). These two poles are expressed in the title. This blog concerns everything in between.</subtitle><link rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/" /><link rel="next" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25&amp;redirect=false&amp;v=2" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><generator version="7.00" uri="http://www.blogger.com">Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>703</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/NarrativeAndOntology" /><feedburner:info uri="narrativeandontology" /><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/" /><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkQHQH86eyp7ImA9WhRUEEs.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-1798208759172034584</id><published>2012-01-20T13:58:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2012-01-20T13:58:51.113+01:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-01-20T13:58:51.113+01:00</app:edited><title>Is there a replacement for Techonrati?</title><content type="html">Of all the pros and cons about starting blogging again that I have been throwing back and forth in my head since &lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2011/10/final-version-of-my-doctoral-thesis.html"&gt;passing my viva&lt;/a&gt; (yes, I'm pretty much a doctor now, though the certificate won't arrive till March), there is one obstacle that stands out above all, and that is the fact the invaluable service once provided by &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/"&gt;Technorati &lt;/a&gt;no longer seems to work, at least outside of the States (customer service doesn't respond to questions either - I can't even delete my account!). Until this is sorted, I'm not sure I can get back to blogging again, for I will have no practical way of knowing who is reponding to my posts or not. Inter-blog dialogues are one of the things that make time invested in blogging worthwhile.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, my question to the blogosphere: Is there a replacement for Technorati? My own googling efforts have revealed nothing . Specifically, what I want is a service that tells me, in chronological order (and not in order of my most popular posts) who has linked to me so that I can respond to them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-1798208759172034584?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/51aakYPWJFU" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/1798208759172034584/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=1798208759172034584&amp;isPopup=true" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/1798208759172034584?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/1798208759172034584?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/51aakYPWJFU/is-there-replacement-for-techonrati.html" title="Is there a replacement for Techonrati?" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2012/01/is-there-replacement-for-techonrati.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEQCQ3g-eip7ImA9WhdaFU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-2173409178483461046</id><published>2011-10-25T10:44:00.000+02:00</published><updated>2011-10-25T10:46:02.652+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2011-10-25T10:46:02.652+02:00</app:edited><title>Final version of my doctoral thesis</title><content type="html">This blog has been sleeping for quite some time now (eight months, to be precise). As I wrote in &lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2011/03/this-blog-isnt-dead-its-just.html"&gt;my last post&lt;/a&gt;, I needed to prioritize in order to get my thesis in on time. I did in fact get it done by August, just in time to become a full-time stay-at-home dad. In the meantime I've done all the editing and I finally handed in the final product on October 21st. The &lt;i&gt;viva voce &lt;/i&gt;is set for December 20th, which will hopefully mean that I'll get a doctorate for Christmas! My two external examiners are &lt;a href="http://www.dur.ac.uk/theology.religion/staff/?id=671"&gt;Walter Moberly&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and &lt;a href="http://www.dur.ac.uk/theology.religion/staff/?id=671"&gt;Neil B. MacDonald&lt;/a&gt;, i.e. an Old Testament guy and a systematic theologian. It is the interface between these two disciplines that excites me most so I'm really looking forward to the conversation we'll have!&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is the abstract I handed in with the final form:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;
&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;
ABSTRACT&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;This thesis
seeks to contribute to the theory and practice of theological interpretation by
explicating the inner coherence of B.S. Childs’ “canonical approach” and by
exemplifying that approach in an interpretation of Psalm 24.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;
&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Part 1
concerns the theory. In this section I argue that Childs’ approach rests upon a
particular understanding of the nature of the Biblical text. In short, it has a
twofold function, that of witnessing to the reality of God and that of shaping
the community of faith in light of that reality. The God to whom it witnesses
is himself involved in this witnessing activity in that he both evokes and
infuses the tradition with his Spirit so that he may be known. The hermeneutical
implication is that interpretation must attempt to grasp the reality “behind”
the text while respecting the particular form in which that reality has been
rendered. The result is a multi-level approach to interpretation involving a
continuous dialectic between the witness (&lt;i&gt;verbum&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;and its content
(&lt;i&gt;res&lt;/i&gt;). The affirmation of the nature of Scripture as an ongoing vehicle
of revelation also implies the significance of the history of faithful
Christian interpretation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;
&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Part 2
seeks to exemplify this approach by showing how such a multi-level
interpretation of Psalm 24 is both possible and fruitful for our understanding
of the reality to which it witnesses. I achieve this by moving through several
stages. After reviewing contemporary methodology, I first provide a poetic
analysis of the Psalm and conclude that it witnesses to the economy of God in a
bid to call Israel to realize its true identity. I then provide a hypothesis of
how the final form of the psalm is a result of a tradition historical process
with its roots in the pre-exilic temple liturgy. This historical perspective
not only clarifies the poetic shape of the psalm, it provides a bridge to
discussing the question of the nature of the reality experienced within
Israel’s cult. I conclude that there is a parallel between the structure of
this reality and the shape of Ps 24. I then both confirm and attempt to deepen
our understanding of this reality by following canonical pointers internal to
the psalm to three other bodies of text: Samuel, the Psalter, and Isaiah. Key
to this broader context is the agency of the David found in Ps 24’s
superscription. I conclude my analysis by suggesting how a better grasp of the
divine economy in the light of Christ may help us better understand the inner
unity of Ps 24 itself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
As always, I'd be delighted to hear any feedback and criticisms.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-2173409178483461046?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/ofBIEaUeNhY" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/2173409178483461046/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=2173409178483461046&amp;isPopup=true" title="16 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/2173409178483461046?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/2173409178483461046?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/ofBIEaUeNhY/final-version-of-my-doctoral-thesis.html" title="Final version of my doctoral thesis" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>16</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2011/10/final-version-of-my-doctoral-thesis.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUAGSXs8eCp7ImA9WhZSFUs.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-6570403729223764413</id><published>2011-03-31T11:28:00.000+02:00</published><updated>2011-03-31T11:28:48.570+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2011-03-31T11:28:48.570+02:00</app:edited><title>This blog isn't dead, it's just hibernating</title><content type="html">It's been two months since my last post, which is the longest break this blog has experienced since I set it up in Sept 2007. I've already indicated in the past that my posting will be slowing down. There are a number of practical reasons: our daughter&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/09/my-daughter-jasmine.html"&gt;Jasmine&lt;/a&gt;, who arrived&amp;nbsp;seven months ago, is still capturing a lot of my attention&amp;nbsp;(she's doing amazingly, for those who are interested: nothing could have prepared me for the new and beautiful dimensions of life that her presence is opening up for Ingrid and I); I have a number of projects that I want to dedicate more time to&amp;nbsp;(Hebrew tutor, translation work [currently Berges' intro to &lt;a href="http://www.eva-leipzig.de/product_info.php?info=p2883_Jesaja.html"&gt;Isaiah&lt;/a&gt;]); I'm working to get this &lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/10/is-canonical-exegesis-too-difficult.html"&gt;rather large&lt;/a&gt; thesis done by August; and I'm looking for future employers.&lt;br /&gt;
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I could no doubt still work out time to keep on posting, but there are two further issues that are causing me to hold back. The first is a matter of my research interests. Most of this blog has been dedicated to Brevard Childs. When I started posting I had already worked out my ideas on his approach and used this blog as a platform to discuss and share them with others. For quite some time now, however, I've been dedicating my attention to Psalm 24 in an attempt to implement what I've sketched out as the content of Childs' canonical thesis. Th&lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/10/is-canonical-exegesis-too-difficult.html"&gt;e scope of inquiry&lt;/a&gt; that Childs challenges us to engage in has kept me from remaining in one spot long enough to turn my thoughts into a series of posts. I'm attempting an integrative interpretation that takes into account diachrony and synchrony, cultic liturgy and canonical poetics, dogma and history, a new interpretation that connects with very ancient ones. The challenge that this poses for me has caused me to step back with the sharing my ideas and focus instead on hammering out my thesis. This leads to the second reason for my silence:&lt;br /&gt;
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Entering the new waters of actually reading the Bible rather than talking about how one should read the Bible has obviously opened up a new box of challenges for me. It's exciting, and I would love to share my thoughts in one-to-one dialogue, but I don't feel that it is right to talk about them online just yet. There's a time for speaking (Ecclesiastes 3:7), and the prudent need to learn when to do so (Prov 10:19; 21:23; Sirach 20:6-7). I want to work my synthesis to its end and get my feet firmly established in Biblical soil before I return to cyberspace to share my thoughts and engage in the welcome critique that comes with that. Hence the fact that this blog isn't dead, just hibernating, storing up resources until the arrival of the right "season."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-6570403729223764413?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/dLKwC0N3d8U" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/6570403729223764413/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=6570403729223764413&amp;isPopup=true" title="7 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/6570403729223764413?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/6570403729223764413?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/dLKwC0N3d8U/this-blog-isnt-dead-its-just.html" title="This blog isn't dead, it's just hibernating" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>7</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2011/03/this-blog-isnt-dead-its-just.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A0UBQ30zfCp7ImA9Wx9VEkw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-7208150281097798902</id><published>2011-01-28T13:54:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2011-01-28T13:54:12.384+01:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2011-01-28T13:54:12.384+01:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Psalm 24" /><title>Abstract for my SBL (London) paper</title><content type="html">I just received the good news that the abstract for one of my papers has been accepted for SBL London. It'll be in the 'Writings' section. Here it is:&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Psalm 24 as Prophecy: A New Poetic Reading&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Psalm 24 is often seen to be a “baffling” psalm due to the juxtaposition of what seems to be thematically disparate material (creation, vv. 1-2; torah and sanctuary vv. 3-6; divine warrior and sanctuary, vv. 7-10). Most unusual, however, is the juxtaposition of the final two stanzas, for they seem to cancel each other out. In vv. 3-6, human beings desire access to God within the sanctuary, whereas in vv. 7-10 God himself is presented as standing outside the same location and desiring access. Multiple clues indicate that these two entrance scenes have been intentionally brought into parallelism with each other, yet no satisfactory answer has been presented as to the meaning of this poetic manoeuvre. In this paper, a poetic analysis is proposed that goes beyond those proffered thus far by looking at the way it represents time and space. The conclusion is that the Psalm belongs in the genre of prophecy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-7208150281097798902?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/xo0fdIqIJNo" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/7208150281097798902/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=7208150281097798902&amp;isPopup=true" title="9 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/7208150281097798902?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/7208150281097798902?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/xo0fdIqIJNo/abstract-for-my-sbl-london-paper.html" title="Abstract for my SBL (London) paper" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>9</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2011/01/abstract-for-my-sbl-london-paper.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkQBQnw6eyp7ImA9Wx9XGE8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-3420474843159525263</id><published>2011-01-12T11:32:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2011-01-12T11:32:33.213+01:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2011-01-12T11:32:33.213+01:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Interpretation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="B.S. Childs" /><title>A response to M. Welker on the relation between Scripture and theology</title><content type="html">In an essay published in a&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://books.google.de/books?id=hO2KvSuhzdkC&amp;amp;pg=PA375&amp;amp;lpg=PA375&amp;amp;dq=SOLA+SCRIPTURA%3F+THE+AUTHORITY+OF+THE+BIBLE+IN+PLURALISTIC+ENVIRONMENTS+welker&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=V9J11TOYb7&amp;amp;sig=0FHQJSdga_1AUkwGppDlWKATwVs&amp;amp;hl=de&amp;amp;ei=lYAtTcy_JMLvsgacz7iHCA&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=1&amp;amp;ved=0CBsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=SOLA%20SCRIPTURA%3F%20THE%20AUTHORITY%20OF%20THE%20BIBLE%20IN%20PLURALISTIC%20ENVIRONMENTS%20welker&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Festschrift&lt;/em&gt; for Patrick Miller&lt;/a&gt;, Michael Welker, professor of systematic theology at the University of Heidelberg, has shared his thoughts on the relationship between Biblical exegesis and theology. The title of the essay is “Sola Scripture? The Authority of the Bible in Pluralistic Environments.” Here is my response, shaped as it is by Childs’ “canonical approach.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Welker shares a basic starting point with Brevard Childs. In a very pregnant paragraph on p. 383 he claims that behind the diversity within the canon (if “behind” is the right metaphor for his approach) there is a single subject matter: God, and not just any god but a particular God. This God is a living reality and not just a theological postulate and as such he has left his imprint, in some undefined sense, on the traditions contained within the Bible (they “reflect his weight”). There is thus at work within the tradition-history behind the text a divine agency, something secular scholarship, by virtue of its own “confessional” stance, has no access to. Not only is there a “divine reality” at work in the actual composition of the textual witnesses, he also confesses that it is the same reality that is revealed in Jesus Christ. This seems to me to be an ontological statement, one that makes a very significant statement about the actual nature of the now textualized religious traditions of ancient Israel. In this he is still on common ground with Childs. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;He adds one further claim, however, to this construal of the nature of the texts which both marks his common ground with Childs and yet also the point of divergence: the texts are to be understood as “witnesses.” As I have &lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/06/principles-of-childs-exegesis.html"&gt;often stated on this blog&lt;/a&gt;, this category is central to Childs' own approach, yet he interprets in a different manner to Welker (his citation of Brueggemann at this point, fn. 21, confirms this, as this is &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_1739668784"&gt;the &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2008/07/thread-summary-responses-to-w.html"&gt;biggest sticking point &lt;/a&gt;in their two approaches). I hope that I am not misinterpreting Welker, but his claim about the texts' status as “witnesses” seems to be materially distinct from his claim about the texts' nature as a “reflection” of God. Although God exerts his a certain force upon the traditions (“weight”), even leaving an impact upon their formation (“mirror”), Welker understands their character as witnesses to be primarily a matter of a individual/communal “search for truth” (p. 392). It is a human “contribution.” In this he stands with the majority of contemporary Old Testament scholarship. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;For Childs, however, the very force of the divine referent upon the witness is part of the definition of “witness” in the first place. The function of the Biblical witness, according to Childs, is not to &lt;em&gt;&lt;i&gt;search&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/em&gt; for truth but to &lt;em&gt;&lt;i&gt;point&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/em&gt; to a truth that has already impacted the witnesses. In other words, his affirmation of the divine impact on tradition has hermeneutical implications, as what the text is trying to do—even in its very historical particularity—is not wrestle with the theological question of God but to point to a divine reality that has broken into the witnesses' reality and perhaps even left him rather confused as a result. &lt;/span&gt;Von Rad spoke of a “&lt;em&gt;lebendigen Wort Jahwes, das an Israel ergangen ist&lt;/em&gt;.” &lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;For Childs, of course, this “divine impact” was part of the literary shaping process of the traditions themselves, such that the final form sets the agenda for relating the parts. In relation to the issue of diversity within the canon, the canonical-shape functions either to guide our own interpretation of the meaning of the tradition, either by subordinating one view to another or allowing them to relate dialectically. The significant point here, however, is that the canon as witness calls us to resolve this dialectic at the level of the divine referent. The diversity in the canon is a consequence of the nature of the referent and not an accident of history or a function of human particularity.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;This leads Childs (as I understand him) to a different answer to the question of how to relate the “canonical traditions” to “contemporary life” (p. 391). Rather than correlating canonical diversity with contemporary diversity, the canon compels us to seek unity within that diversity—a unity at the level of the divine reality itself—and then to reinterpret our current situation in light of that divine reality. As part of the hermeneutical spiral however, we not only interpret the unity of the present in light of the unity of the canonical referent, we also seek to comprehend the unity of the canon in light of the unity of its divine referent. Hence Childs’ dialectical approach. Whereas Welker seems to argue for a relatively unilinear mode of theological exegesis—the task of systematic theology in Biblical exegesis is to test the “Tragbarkeit” of exegetical, theological claims in the present (p. 388)— Childs argues that dogmatics ought, at a certain point in the hermeneutical circle, to contribute to exegetical claims about the actual meaning of the text itself. &lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/09/abstract-of-my-doctoral-thesis-on-ps-24.html"&gt;In my own work&lt;/a&gt;, this leads me to the strong (and unusual, given the current climate) claim that Robert Jenson's interpretation the “metaphysics of Heaven” (which is a Trinitarian concept) not only seems to supply Psalm 24 with its ultimate referent (when read historically, cult-critically, poetically and canonically), but it also helps us to understand the actual logic of the Psalm itself better.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-3420474843159525263?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/ztiLa2Ou7-A" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/3420474843159525263/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=3420474843159525263&amp;isPopup=true" title="4 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3420474843159525263?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3420474843159525263?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/ztiLa2Ou7-A/response-to-m-welker-on-relation.html" title="A response to M. Welker on the relation between Scripture and theology" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>4</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2011/01/response-to-m-welker-on-relation.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0cCRHY4eSp7ImA9Wx9TFkU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-4658230942412820706</id><published>2010-11-25T11:31:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-11-25T11:31:05.831+01:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-11-25T11:31:05.831+01:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="German" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="K. Barth" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="alethiology" /><title>Was ist christliche Erkenntnis?</title><content type="html">&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; line-height: 16px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;I'm revisiting old essays and reworking them for the final form of my thesis. In the process I'm discovering Karl Barth in a new dimension. Childs is often said to be Barthian, and this is surely right. But I'm still not sure the implications of what that means have been fully worked out. Is there a treatment to date which expresses the canonical approach in terms of Barth's teaching of the Three Forms of the Word (neither Xun nor Driver mention it)? Unfortunately, I'm only going to be briefly touching on this myself as 50% of my thesis is enacting Childs' hermeneutic and not explaining its intellectual ancestry. Nevertheless, grasping the dogmatic underpinnings of the "canonical approach" (as Childs understood it) is key to implementing it exegetically. I'm grateful to Childs for having introduced me to Barth, whose writings make my heart race almost as much as those of Childs. I do wonder how much my love of Childs is in fact a love of Barth, where the one stops and the other continues. I don't know my Barth well enough to judge just yet.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #333333; line-height: 1.5em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Here's an awesome quote on the nature of Christian (Biblical) truth that embodies what it is that I love about Barth, and what it is that makes the canonical approach so rich:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #333333; line-height: 1.5em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Der Begriff des Wissens, der scientia, genügt nicht, umd das zu beschreiben, was christilche Erkenntnis ist. Wir müssen vielmehr zurückgehen auf das, was im Alten Testament die Weisheit genannat wird, was der Grieche sophia nannte und der Lateiner sapientia, um das Wissen der Theologie in seiner Fülle zu erfassen. Sapientia unterscheidet sich von dem engeren Begriff scientia, Weisheit unterscheidet sich von Wissennicht dadurch, daß sie nicht &amp;nbsp;auch Wissen in sich enthielte, aber darüber hinaus redet dieser Begriff von einem Wissen, das ein praktisches Wissen sit, das die ganze Existenz des Menschen umfaßt. Weißheit ist das Wissen, von dem wir faktisch, praktisch leben dürfen, ist die Empirie und ist die Theorie, welche darin gewaltig ist, daß sie sofort praktisch ist, daß sie das Wissen ist, welches unser Leben beherrscht, welches wirklich ein Licht auf unserem Pfad ist. Nicht ein Licht zum Bestaunen und Betrachten, nicht ein Licht um allerhand Feuerwerke damit anzuzünden - und wenn es auch die tiefsinnigsten philosophischen Spekulationen wären! - sonder das Licht auf unserem Weg, das über unserem Tun und über unserem Reden stehen darf, das Licht in unseren gesunden und in unseren kranken Tagen, in unserer Armut und in unserem Reichtum, das Licht, das nicht nur dann leuchtet, wenn wir Momente der Einsicht zu haben meinen, sonder das uns begleitet auch in unsere Torheit hinein, das nicht verlöscht, wenn alles verlöscht, wenn das Ziel unseres Lebens im Tode sichtbar wird. Von diesem Licht, von dieser Wahrheit leben, das heißt christliches Erkennen. Christliches Erkennen heißt in der Wahrheit Jesus Christi leben.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; line-height: 24px;"&gt;Karl Barth,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dogmatik im Umriss&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; line-height: 24px;"&gt;, in der Universität Bonn vorgelesen, 1946.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-4658230942412820706?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/UuN4FDrM21M" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/4658230942412820706/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=4658230942412820706&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/4658230942412820706?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/4658230942412820706?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/UuN4FDrM21M/was-ist-christliche-erkenntnis.html" title="Was ist christliche Erkenntnis?" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/11/was-ist-christliche-erkenntnis.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUYGQ3Y_cSp7ImA9Wx5aFko.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-6391934677770532397</id><published>2010-11-13T19:28:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2010-11-13T19:32:02.849+01:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-11-13T19:32:02.849+01:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Interpretation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="K. Barth" /><title>Quote of the day: Gunkel/Barth</title><content type="html">&lt;blockquote&gt;Daß es sich im Alten Testament um eine bewegende Sache handeln möchte, fing mir erst in Berlin bei Gunkel aufzugehen (Nachwort 190f.; Busch, Leben 51; cited in Bächli, &lt;i&gt;Das Alte Testament in der Kirchlichen Dogmatik von Karl Barth&lt;/i&gt;, 3.&lt;/blockquote&gt;What was it that Barth saw in Gunkel? I won't share my thoughts here, as my own answer constitutes part of my thesis (though see Bächli on pp. 324-325). I just wanted to share this quote as a witness to the fact that Barth, and Childs, never intended or wanted to escape the challenge of either the Enlightenment or historical-criticism. Their approaches go &lt;i&gt;through&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;it and thus result in a vision of Scripture and God which, as far as I am concerned at least, makes my heart burn. I worry that the contemporary growth in "theological exegesis" hasn't fully grasp the move made by Barth and then Childs on this score.&lt;br /&gt;
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Otto Bächli's book is awesome (I'm surprised Childs' didn't cite it in his &lt;i&gt;Biblical Theology&lt;/i&gt;). Incidentally, he was born in Switzerland in 1920 and there a section on him on this amazing website by the Swiss Reformed Church dedicated to the &lt;a href="http://www.ref.ch/index.php?id=55"&gt;memories of Swiss pastors during the war&lt;/a&gt;. Here's &lt;a href="http://www.ref.ch/index.php?id=192"&gt;the reason&lt;/a&gt; he got into Old Testament:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sens-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;Wir hatten ein Bauernhaus mit vier Wohnungen, und in einer lebten Juden. Wir sprachen auch&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sens-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiddisch" style="color: #661300; font-size: 12px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"&gt;Jiddisch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sens-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;im Umgang mit jüdischen Kindern. Wohl aus&amp;nbsp;diesen Erfahrungen heraus wurde später mein Hang zum Alten Testament und zum Hebräischen sehr stark.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-6391934677770532397?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/37qlqdVqBqY" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/6391934677770532397/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=6391934677770532397&amp;isPopup=true" title="10 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/6391934677770532397?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/6391934677770532397?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/37qlqdVqBqY/quote-of-day-gunkelbarth.html" title="Quote of the day: Gunkel/Barth" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>10</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/11/quote-of-day-gunkelbarth.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEADRXk5eip7ImA9Wx5aEEk.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-5147977749462023259</id><published>2010-11-05T20:12:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2010-11-06T12:26:14.722+01:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-11-06T12:26:14.722+01:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Quandaries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Interpretation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Psalm 24" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="B.S. Childs" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="K. Barth" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="A. Louth" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christ in Old Testament" /><title>Barth, Ps 24, and the unity of the Testaments</title><content type="html">Christians believe that the Old Testament witnesses to &amp;nbsp;God-in-Jesus. Jesus himself made this clear to his disciples as he walked with them on&lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2008/02/luke-2413-35-and-dogmaticsexegesis.html"&gt; the road to Emmaus&lt;/a&gt;, opening their eyes to the way the Law and the Prophets spoke of his suffering and resurrection. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, if you enjoy thinking about this kind of thing), he didn’t leave behind a divinely inspired hermeneutical key which can infallibly illuminate the manner in which the Old Testament goes about doing this. We are left with a frustrating inner conviction but the impossibility of &lt;em&gt;proving&lt;/em&gt; this conviction to the unbeliever. This reminds me of Jesus’ response to the Pharisees’ demand for a sign, when he simply states that what he says is true because he is the one who says it. I can imagine how frustrating that must have been! Somehow the truth is “self-affirming.”&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;For my part, I do believe that the Old Testament witnesses to God-in-Jesus, and the church has consistently confessed the same (cf. the abundant allegorical interpretation for the vast majority of the church’s history, including throughout the Reformation). However, like many in the church, I also struggle to back up this claim with a philosophical or theological account of &lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt; this happens. To draw another analogy with responses to the historical Jesus, I find myself in the similar position of Jesus’ neighbours in Nazareth, who , when confronted with his claim that he is the initiator of the kingdom of God, responded with the question: “isn’t that Joseph’s son… ?” (note &lt;a href="http://exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com/2010/11/new-book-on-mythicism-is-this-not.html"&gt;the title of a recent book &lt;/a&gt;whose contents would seem to affirm this surface recognition as the last word on the matter). The analogous Christian version that I hear again and again is: “is that the God of the New Testament?” The answer is “yes,” and if you can’t figure out why or how than you better take stock of the adequacy your own grasp of the gospel. I experience this challenge regularly.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;This is not to say that there are not a host of helpful theses that each in their own way shed light on the phenomenon, allowing Christians to both deepen their own faith as well as present it to others. The recognition of mystery ought to function as an invitation to enter it, rather than as an excuse to just give up wrestling with the issue in the first place (cf. A. Louth, &lt;em&gt;Discerning the Mystery&lt;/em&gt;).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;One thesis that touches on this issue was made by Karl Barth, which I will now share in massively reduced form (primarily because I have only read this thesis in a paper about something else, namely &amp;nbsp;the influence of Barth on Miskotte). It’s about the continuity &amp;nbsp;and discontinuity between the Testaments: &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="MsoTableGrid" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: none; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-yfti-tbllook: 1184;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-firstrow: yes; mso-yfti-irow: 0;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 230.3pt;" valign="top" width="307"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; text-indent: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Similarity&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-left: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 230.3pt;" valign="top" width="307"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; text-indent: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Disimilarity&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 1;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 230.3pt;" valign="top" width="307"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; text-indent: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Both   Testaments see God as one who freely initiates relationship with human kind. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 230.3pt;" valign="top" width="307"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; text-indent: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;The   OT has a variety of covenants and only an implicit Messianic hope. The NT has   only one covenant and the Messiah is identified as Jesus of Nazareth.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 2;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 230.3pt;" valign="top" width="307"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; text-indent: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Both   Testaments recognize the mysterious hiddenness of God.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 230.3pt;" valign="top" width="307"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; text-indent: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;The   OT sees this hiddenness in God’s judgement of the nations, including Israel.   The NT sees this in God’s judgement of his Son. God’s judgement in the NT is,   in some sense, final.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 3; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 230.3pt;" valign="top" width="307"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; text-indent: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Both   Testaments have an “already-not yet” eschatology (my phrase), as God is both   one who is already experienced but also one who is coming.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 230.3pt;" valign="top" width="307"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; text-indent: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;The   NT not only see’s Jesus as the One who is coming, it is waiting for the one   who has already come [though I have to admit, I don’t see how this is any   different from the OT perspective, for there God also already came … ].&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;The framework for these similarities/differences is Barth’s concept of the relationship between Divine Revelation and time. There are three “times,” the time of the expectation of revelation (Old Testmaent), the time of the fulfilment of revelation (Jesus’ history), and the age of remembering the fulfilment of revelation (New Testament). It’s important to note that the NT is not the fulfilment of the OT (contra Louth, cited above), Jesus is. The NT and OT both function to point to a single referent that stands outside of themselves. They do this in their own idiom and from their own perspective (hence the differences), but their referential object is the same (hence the similar structure and content). &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;As you may have noticed from my comments in square brackets, it seems to me as if Barth is not doing full justice to the OT (though feel free to correct me here). In short, he seems to overemphasises the NT’s “already” element in contrast to the OT’s “not yet.” Isn’t it the case that the OT already witnesses to a past fulfilment that provides the “ontological” ground for the possibility of the history that ensues? The example I’m thinking of is the opening strophe of Ps 24: “The earth is the LORD’s … for he has founded it upon the seas … .” Isn’t this past act as decisive in its grounding of God’s history with his people as Jesus’ resurrection from the dead? E. Otto talks of God’s acts here as &amp;nbsp;creating the “Möglichkeit” (possibility) for the obedience found in vv. 3-6: There can be such a thing as a righteous, obedient Jacob (v. 6), because God’s stabilization of the earth in the face of chaos guarantees the validity of such obedience. In a similar way, the New Testament talks of resurrection life in the Spirit creating a heart of flesh and the capacity to be obedient to the Torah. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;So how do I interpret the relation of Ps 24:1-2 in relation to the NT? Jesus can’t have “fulfilled” it because Ps 24:1-2 is not pointing forward to a moment yet to be fulfilled, it is pointing back to something already established once and for all. As mentioned, the relation &amp;nbsp;seems to be of a structural nature. In fact, the analogy can be expanded to apply to Jesus’ entire mission, for just as in Ps 24 strophe 1 (vv. 1-2) is the precondition for strophe 2 (vv. 3-6), these two strophes are somehow “consummated” by strophes 3 and 4 (vv. 7-10; on my interpretation of the poetic structure, I should add). Similarly, Jesus was raised from the dead (strophe 1), has cleansed his people (strophe 2) and will return again to consummate his work (i.e. Advent; strophes 3-4). Except that even here our analogy runs into conceptual difficulties, for it is the case that &amp;nbsp;Jesus’ death, resurrection, and ascension are all contained in vv. 7-10: his death was a battle with death, his resurrection was his victory and his ascension was its consummation (i.e. Ascension not advent). So are vv. 7-10 about Christ’s return to earth as king or his ascension to heaven to be enthroned? In addition to this, where does this leave strophe 1 if the resurrection in is the final two strophes? The odd thing is that strophe 1 in fact has the same content as strophes 3-4, albeit on a “mythological” rather than “historical” plain! Strophe 1 is also a kind of battle, this time with the seas, and it is also a proclamation of victory, i.e. the establishment of a viable living space. So does Ps 24 taken on its own, regardless of its correlation to an external event in time (not in space: Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem!) contain its own odd witness to “ontological-unity-in-temporal-sequence”? Srophes 3 and 4 “consummate” strophe 1, even as the “recapitulate” its content. The “chronos” is different but not the “chairos.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&amp;nbsp;The intermediate conclusion &amp;nbsp;all this mind bending has for me is that every time I try and relate Psalm 24 to the Gospels my temporal categories are consistently being confirmed (there is a genuine analogy) and subverted. It’s like a lover who tempts me with a kiss and a flash of her eye-lashes but teasingly disappears around the corner, leaving a trail of perfume to beckon me on (Song of Songs was always had a hermeneutical function for church and synagogue!). &amp;nbsp;I see the analogy, am breathless at the sheer scope of who Jesus is and what he has achieved, and yet still am left to struggle and see how the past and present within an Psalm’s “narrative world” is “fulfilled” by the Gospel’s presentation of past and present, a past and present that can be collapsed into one moment.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;I mentioned above that the OT’s inevitable and consistent challenge to the Christian claim about its Christological content ought to primarily be a challenge to Christians, not to &lt;em&gt;prove&lt;/em&gt; their faith to the sceptics but to deepen the content of their own faith, which is always far from perfect. I can’t claim to have a concrete answer to my issue with Ps 24 above (though I’m working on it!), but it has forced me to return to my own construal of the “gospel” and to see it with new eyes. Of particular relevance here is the concept of the relation between the “ontological” and “economic” Trinity, God in himself and God for us. McGlasson summarizes the relation as follows: &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="Quotations"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;God’s sending of his Son for our salvation and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit are a replication in time of God’s eternal self-identity. God’s redemptive love for humanity is an expression of God’s free decision to draw us into a relationship with himself, which is based on the relationship of love that he himself is (McGlasson, &lt;em&gt;Invitation&lt;/em&gt;, 198). &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="Quotations" style="margin-left: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;As Barth implies above, the NT is not the fulfilment of the OT, it &lt;em&gt;points to&lt;/em&gt; it’s fulfilment. This means that drawing structural analogies between the OT and the NT can only take us so far. They point us in the right direction, as the content of the NT is the same as the OT. But the reality itself is greater than what is at most the &lt;em&gt;partial&lt;/em&gt; testimony of both Testaments (cf. Childs, &lt;em&gt;Biblical Theology&lt;/em&gt;). Hence the necessity of higher level dogmatic theology in order to grasp what is really going on in Scripture. The practice of theology, after all, originally consisted in nothing other than meditation upon the mystery of the ontological trinity. I think I ought to learn to do the same. &amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[For a post on Moberly's interpretation of the Emmaus story, go &lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2008/02/luke-2413-35-and-dogmaticsexegesis.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;; see also my post &lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2008/02/reading-in-revised-frame-of-reference.html"&gt;Reading in a Revised Frame of Reference&lt;/a&gt;].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-5147977749462023259?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/6eRcXOsU75s" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/5147977749462023259/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=5147977749462023259&amp;isPopup=true" title="7 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/5147977749462023259?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/5147977749462023259?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/6eRcXOsU75s/barth-ps-24-and-unity-of-testaments.html" title="Barth, Ps 24, and the unity of the Testaments" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>7</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/11/barth-ps-24-and-unity-of-testaments.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkAFQXszeSp7ImA9Wx5bFkg.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-5990329412272983645</id><published>2010-11-02T00:38:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-11-02T00:38:30.581+01:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-11-02T00:38:30.581+01:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Internet Links" /><title>Wellhausen's Prolegomena on the Net</title><content type="html">Anyone interested in reading Julius Wellhausen's groundbreaking historical critical introduction to the Bible can download the book for free&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/4732"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Gutenberg have also now digitalized the entire International Critical Commentary, which is an awesome service.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'll be giving a paper tomorrow on the canonical approach in front of a faculty that, on the surface at least (and part of my thesis is in fact that the differences are not so big after all), reads the Bible in a manner that would seem diametrically opposed to anything resembling synchronic exegesis. I'm giving my paper as descriptive analysis of Childs' approach, but I think it's pretty clear that I'm also out to defend him. If any of my readers are into praying, then pray for clarity, wisdom, and generosity on the part of all (oh, and pray for my German, too).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-5990329412272983645?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/Gat2uqFiiWY" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/5990329412272983645/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=5990329412272983645&amp;isPopup=true" title="4 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/5990329412272983645?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/5990329412272983645?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/Gat2uqFiiWY/wellhausens-prolegomena-on-net.html" title="Wellhausen's &lt;em&gt;Prolegomena&lt;/em&gt; on the Net" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>4</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/11/wellhausens-prolegomena-on-net.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DU4NRH04cCp7ImA9Wx5bE0g.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-8793868107105248277</id><published>2010-10-29T15:13:00.000+02:00</published><updated>2010-10-29T15:13:15.338+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-10-29T15:13:15.338+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Interpretation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Hermeneutics" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Historical Criticism" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Trinitarian Theology" /><title>I can't stop saying "ontological"</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TMrIGX9smtI/AAAAAAAAFic/9twdt1x0hAI/s1600/01.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TMrIGX9smtI/AAAAAAAAFic/9twdt1x0hAI/s320/01.jpg" width="257" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I posted this comment on Facebook and a friend asked me what "ontological" means. My answer turned into a short essay &amp;nbsp;outlining not only what it means for me but also why I can't stop saying it. Here's my answer:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;"&gt;It literally means "the study of being,” but I’m using it in a particular way.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;When I say something "is" something, and emphasise that by saying that something "is ontologically" something, it means that I am making a fundamental statement about its "nature."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;It's a vague concept, I know. I'm not actually interested in proposing a general theory of the nature of reality - I don't think human language and concepts can even do this as we are part of what we're trying to describe and we can't stand outside "it" in order to analyse it. Rather, I'm interested in the question of how we should read the Bible. This entails asking what it "is." The answer to this involves saying things like: it's a composite product of an ancient Israelite culture produced over a long time span.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;There is also another element, however, of what the Bible "is," for one finds all over the Bible statements that its purpose - regardless of its human particularity - consists in communicating the will and the identity of God to those who want to know it. It says that this purpose is something that God himself wills, that it is in fact the primary reason for the Bible's existence in the first place, and that God himself makes sure that this purpose is fulfilled within the lives of those who read it. So, if you take this self-depiction seriously, then according to the Bible the answer to the question of what it "is" is that it is a vehicle of divine revelation and salvation.&amp;nbsp;In other words, the Bible sees itself as part of a broader context, a context even broader than the human one, namely the context of a history of salvation in which the eternal God is constantly revealing himself to humanity through this book.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Yet, there is one further step: the Bible also says that what God himself decides to do in our created space and time is ultimately an expression of something that he himself eternally "is." God himself has a "being" but this being is dynamic, not static. The church calls this the "ontological Trinity," because it believes that God "is" an eternally loving relationship of three distinct persons, who we call the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (this, by the way, is what Christians mean when they say God "is" love; this is an ontological statement; God's being "is" the love of the Father and the Son in the Spirit). It therefore follows that the answer to the question of what the Bible "is" is ultimately related to the question of who God "is." Eternally, the Father loves the Son and the Son loves the Father and the bond that unites them is the Spirit. Temporally, i.e. in our created time, this eternal relationship "unfolds" to allow us to participate in the relationship. The Son became flesh and through his work of salvation for mankind by conquering the power of death on the cross he "brings" us into the eternal relationship that exists between him and his father.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;This process of "bringing in", however is, from our perspective not yet complete. In other words, those who now in our time put their faith in the Son receive a "foretaste" of a fuller relationship that is to come. This is why Christians are people who are "waiting" for the fulfilment of time, the "kingdom of God" on earth in which humanity can finally enter into the eternal relationship that God is. In the "meantime," that moment between the Son's historical redemption of humankind (around 33 A.D) and his return, humankind itself is to grow in that relationship that has been started but not consummated. And it does this by reading the Bible. The Bible "is" the place where this relationship grows. God already knows us. The Bible "is" the place where he makes himself known to us “in the meantime”, so that we can respond to him in worship and adoration in anticipation of the day when we can finally “come home,” which is into his arms as a son into the arms of his father.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;This has consequences for question for how I should read the Bible, which I won’t go into now as I’ve already written a ridiculously long comment! My point is just this: when most people ask themselves what the Bible “is,” and therefor how they should read it, they often just stop at the human bit and so end up reading it partially. Their decision to do this, however, is not only inadequate to the nature of the Bible, it is based on a prior assumption about what “ultimate reality” really is. Whatever that reality is, it doesn’t look like the one I just described above. They are commited to a different "ontology" than the one the Bible witnesses to. This is why the category of “ontology” is so important for reading the Bible. It helps us think about what the Bible “is” in a way that does justice to what it claims for itself.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-8793868107105248277?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/LGGDBx_fvec" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/8793868107105248277/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=8793868107105248277&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/8793868107105248277?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/8793868107105248277?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/LGGDBx_fvec/i-cant-stop-saying-ontological.html" title="I can't stop saying &quot;ontological&quot;" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TMrIGX9smtI/AAAAAAAAFic/9twdt1x0hAI/s72-c/01.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/10/i-cant-stop-saying-ontological.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;D04GSX8_eip7ImA9Wx5bEUw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-1905263720833588939</id><published>2010-10-26T19:58:00.002+02:00</published><updated>2010-10-26T19:58:48.142+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-10-26T19:58:48.142+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Quandaries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pentateuch" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Wisdom" /><title>Theological parallels between Israel's wisdom traditions and salvation-historical traditions</title><content type="html">&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;It's often said that Israel's wisdom traditions are devoid of the kind of theology one finds elsewhere in the Old Testament. Brueggemann represents the majority opinion:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;wisdom teaching, in the book of Proverbs as elsewhere, completely lacks the primary marks of Israel's history or of Israel's covenantal tradition. As a consequence in this teaching, Israel stands alongside its non-Yahwistic neighbours in pondering the inscrutible mystery of life, even as that mystery permeates the most concrete and mundane dimensions of daily existence [*]&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;The following is a thought experiment in relation to this. Assuming a single theological pattern, in which God creates a material universe for the purpose of giving it to humanity to enjoy, yet making that enjoyment conditional upon obedience to will, I came up with the following parallels:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wisdom:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;i) The ultimate &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;telos&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; of wisdom is "salvation," understood in the "this worldly" sense of a long happy life in the land. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;ii) The &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;means&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; of achieving this is through 1) discovering and then 2) implementing the insights of wisdom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;iii) The &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;place&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; where one goes in order to acquire this salvific information is the created order, in both its "natural" and "social" dimensions (i.e. through the observation of natural and sociological patterns and the development of codes of conduct).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;iv) The &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;epistemological condition for comprehending&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;this reality is "the fear of the Lord." There is no neutral starting point.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;v) The &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;source&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; of this information is the Lord. I.e. God himself, through revelation of himself, creates the epistemological conditions by which we can perceive his will in creation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;vi) The &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;reason&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; why this reality (wisdom) does what it does (i.e. give life) lies within the will of the Lord. It's what he wants.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;vii) Identifying this reality (wisdom) is equivalent to identifying the Lord's will/purpose (i.e. to offer us salvation in a material paradise).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;viii) Wisdom reveals the Lord to the degree that it reveals his will, which is for a healthy created order (Garden-of-Eden-style).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;This seems to correspond to the theological logic found in the &lt;b&gt;Pentateuch&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;i) The ultimate &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;telos&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; of history is "salvation," understood in the "this worldly" sense of a long happy life in the land. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;ii) The &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;means&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; of achieving this is through 1) discovering and then 2) implementing God's revealed will (Torah).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;iii) The &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;place&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; where one goes for this salvific information is&amp;nbsp;the Lord's history with his people, in both its experienced and then narrated/liturgically re-enacted dimensions (i.e. tradition and Scripture).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;iv) The &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;epistemological condition for comprehending&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;this reality (i.e. truly understanding the spirit of the law, its purpose)&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;is &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;thankfulness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; to the Lord for what he has done prior to the revelation of his will (e.g. I.e. redemption from Egypt; this experience provides the categories for understanding how to treat ones own slaves).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;v) The &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;source&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; of this information is the Lord.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;vi) The &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;reason&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; that this reality (his will in Torah) does what it does (i.e. give life) lies within the will of the Lord. It's what he wants.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;vii) Identifying this reality is equivalent to identifying the Lord's will/purpose (i.e. salvation).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;viii) History (as narrated in the Pentateuch) reveals the Lord to the degree that it reveals his will, which is a healthy created order (i.e. saved &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;from &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;Egypt &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;Canaan).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Given these parallels, you can see how the Bible exerted a certain "co-ercion" on early Jewish interpreters (Sirach, Wisdom of Solomon) to collapse wisdom and torah into one reality. This wasn't an attempt to impress the Greeks, it was a response to the total witness of Scripture, a response consistent with the Bible's own logic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;To make the parallels more explicit, you get the following pairings:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Law / Wisdom (&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;object to be sought&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Thankfulness for historical preservation / Fear of the Lord (&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;epistemological condition for perceiving this&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;land of milk and honey / a good long life (&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;goal of seeking&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;obedience / obedience (&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;means of implementation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;the Lord / the Lord (&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;source&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;instruction from priests, parents, Scripture&amp;nbsp;etc. / instruction from wise men, parents, Scripture&amp;nbsp;etc. (&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;vehicle for source&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;history / creation (&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;location&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"&gt;Any thoughts?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;[*] Brueggeman, &lt;i&gt;An Introduction to the Old Testament&lt;/i&gt;, 306.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-1905263720833588939?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/nWbxj41uw6k" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/1905263720833588939/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=1905263720833588939&amp;isPopup=true" title="7 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/1905263720833588939?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/1905263720833588939?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/nWbxj41uw6k/theological-parallels-between-israels.html" title="Theological parallels between Israel's wisdom traditions and salvation-historical traditions" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>7</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/10/theological-parallels-between-israels.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0YDR3czeyp7ImA9Wx5bEEk.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-3388358935733010709</id><published>2010-10-25T23:12:00.000+02:00</published><updated>2010-10-25T23:12:56.983+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-10-25T23:12:56.983+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Interpretation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pentateuch" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Historical Criticism" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Biblical exegesis" /><title>Dealing with anachronism in Exod 16:1-36</title><content type="html">&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-bidi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"&gt;Assuming one wishes to read the Old Testament as "Christian scripture," how does one deal with the presence of anachronism in the storyline? As part of my general overview of&lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/06/exegesis-of-bs-childs-overview.html"&gt; Childs' approach to Biblical exegesis&lt;/a&gt;, I turn today to Childs' treatment of the anachronism that is found in&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;the story of the manna and quails (Exodus 16:1-36).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TMXyYdPY5aI/AAAAAAAAFiY/5G8M0XgOH1w/s1600/01.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="244" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TMXyYdPY5aI/AAAAAAAAFiY/5G8M0XgOH1w/s320/01.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;According to the story, God commands that the jar of manna be placed “before the Testimony” (i.e. tablets of the Ten Commandments; עדות; v. 34). The problem is that the Ark, which contains the Testimony, hasn't been built yet. Childs rejects both the pre-critical solution to this problem, which says that God's command was given by way of anticipation, as well as the typical historical-critical solution, which say it was simply an oversight on the part of the redactor. Childs interpretation is also not “post-critical,” in the sense that he does not attempt to bracket out the question of the history of the text and remain within the "story world" of Exodus. Rather, he notes that it is often the case that “chronological inconsistencies usually reflect &lt;span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;definite theological concerns&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;” on the part of the Biblical editors&lt;a href="file:///C:/Users/Phil/Documents/Documents,%20Personal/Doctorate/Theological%20Hermeneutics/Essay_Text%20and%20Ontology-%20plus%20appendix-%20updated%20version.doc#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1;" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote;"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;quot;; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and proceeds to deduce that intentionality from the effect created by its present placement. In light of this broader editorial activity, he concludes the following:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 35.25pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-bidi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"&gt;It is much more likely that also here there is a theological point which caused the writer to override the chronological sequence. A jar of manna which is the sign of God's sustaining mercy is kept alongside the tablets of the law. Indeed, the sign of divine grace preceded the giving of the law of Sinai! Still the emphasis of this passage does not fall on establishing the priority of the manna, nor should the chronology be pressed. Rather, the point of the text focuses on the testimony that the manna and the tablets belong together before God. In New Testament terminology, the gospel and the law cannot be separated.&lt;a href="file:///C:/Users/Phil/Documents/Documents,%20Personal/Doctorate/Theological%20Hermeneutics/Essay_Text%20and%20Ontology-%20plus%20appendix-%20updated%20version.doc#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2;" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;quot;; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element: footnote-list;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element: footnote-list;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;Note that Childs is happy to let the tension stand at the level of the narrative: there is a genuine anachronism. But this is only a problem to a modern reader, for whom chronological consistency is an overriding concern. When seen in the light of its diachronic development, Childs tries to get to the matter that was editor's concern, and that is theology. You could say God's time over against our time. The "divine economy" trumps "profane history," such that we catch a glimpse into the order of events that really matters: in salvation history, grace always precedes law.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element: footnote-list;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element: footnote-list;"&gt;Childs is also sensitive to the issue of over-weighting the editorial concern. In his opinion, the weight of the text does not consist in the fact that it is now placed before the giving of the Law. It still has a degree of independence over against its larger narrative context. The main point is "pericope immanent": gospel and law cannot be separated.&lt;br clear="all" /&gt;  &lt;hr align="left" size="1" width="33%" /&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div id="ftn1" style="mso-element: footnote;"&gt;  &lt;div class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;a href="file:///C:/Users/Phil/Documents/Documents,%20Personal/Doctorate/Theological%20Hermeneutics/Essay_Text%20and%20Ontology-%20plus%20appendix-%20updated%20version.doc#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1;" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="FootnoteCharacters"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span class="FootnoteCharacters"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: HE; mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;quot;; mso-fareast-language: #00FF;"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Childs, &lt;i&gt;Exodus&lt;/i&gt;, 291.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="ftn2" style="mso-element: footnote;"&gt;  &lt;div class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;a href="file:///C:/Users/Phil/Documents/Documents,%20Personal/Doctorate/Theological%20Hermeneutics/Essay_Text%20and%20Ontology-%20plus%20appendix-%20updated%20version.doc#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2;" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="FootnoteCharacters"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span class="FootnoteCharacters"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: HE; mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;quot;; mso-fareast-language: #00FF;"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Childs, &lt;i&gt;Exodus&lt;/i&gt;, 291-292.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-3388358935733010709?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/6GOTHcoSekA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/3388358935733010709/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=3388358935733010709&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3388358935733010709?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3388358935733010709?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/6GOTHcoSekA/dealing-with-anachronism-in-exod-161-36.html" title="Dealing with anachronism in Exod 16:1-36" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TMXyYdPY5aI/AAAAAAAAFiY/5G8M0XgOH1w/s72-c/01.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/10/dealing-with-anachronism-in-exod-161-36.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUcCRXc4eip7ImA9Wx5UEEg.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-2169051018636510849</id><published>2010-10-14T12:44:00.000+02:00</published><updated>2010-10-14T12:44:24.932+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-10-14T12:44:24.932+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Judaism" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="God" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Trinitarian Theology" /><title>Rosenzweig on the essence of Judaism/Christianity</title><content type="html">&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TLberIiT0dI/AAAAAAAAFiU/hKw4Aydca2M/s1600/01.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TLberIiT0dI/AAAAAAAAFiU/hKw4Aydca2M/s320/01.jpg" width="207" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The context of the following statements is Rosenzweig's critique (yet round-about affirmation) of Mendelssohn's translation of the tetragrammaton as "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Das ewige Wesen&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;." As a Christian, I appreciate the way in which he draws the Trinity into the orbit of the Biblical understanding of God, critiquing Maimonides' "Aristotelianism" in the process. I think he is right to say that the essence of Christianity - in its better moments - is at one with both Judaism and Scripture. At the same time, I'm not sure how it is that he can still (implicitly, at least, if I read him right) maintain the validity of the idea that God is יָחִיד, which is more than saying that he is אֶחַד. How is the "pagan/Aristotelian" concept of unitarianism (as Rosenzweig calls it!) still a necessary pre-condition - albeit a limited one - for affirming that the Creator is also the historical Redeemer? Rosenzweig actually says that this formulation was against the impulse do Jewish tradition. What other ways does Judaism provide of conceiving God's transcendence and immanence? In a course with Rabbi Dan Cohen-Sherbok I learnt that Jewish mysticism always stood in tension - even outright conflict - with the philosophical strand in Judaism. Does the doctrine of the sephirot, do a better job of conceiving this? Can it be reconciled with Maimonides' unitariansism? And, as far as questions of "Jewishness" are concerned, when does one cross the boundary thus find oneself outside the fold?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Mendelssohn hat also die Entscheidung falsch getroffen, beeinflußt durch den Vorgang Calvins und einflußempfänglich geworden durch den rationalistisch-klassizistischen Geist des von Jugend auf verehrten, doch eben hier wie so oft aristotelisch beeinflußten Maimonides gegen den sicheren Instinkt der jüdischen Tradition verbündete. ... Der biblische "Monotheismus" besteht ja nicht in der Erkenntnis einer Einheit des göttlichen Wesens; wäre er das, so ermangelte er jeder Besonderheit: es gibt kein "Heidentum", das nicht ... seinen "Polytheismus" ... in der Einheit eines "Religiösen" überhaupt ... zusammenfaßte. Sondern das Eigetümliche des biblischen Gottesglaubes besteht darin, daß er diese "heidnische" Einheit - mit dem Kusari zu reden: den Gott des Aristoteles - zwar voraussetzt, aber diesen Gott in seinem Einssein mit dem persönlichst und unmittelbarst erfahren - wieder mit dem Kusari gesprochen: dem Gott Abrahams - erkennt. Die "heidnische Einheit" ist dabei nicht etwa nebensächlich; ein teilgebliebener Gott (etwa ein Gruppengott), der beanspruchte, "der Ganze" zu sein, wäre ein Götze und unfähig, in die Ineinssetzung mit dem "Gott Abrahams" einzugehen ... ; aber ihre, sozusagen, monotheistische Pointe erhält jene heidnische Einheit erst durch diese jüdische Ineinssetzung des fernen mit dem nahen, des "ganzen" mit dem "eigenen" Gott. Diese Ineinssetzung erst ist das "Wesen des Judentums" und durch das trinitarische Dogma, wie sehr auch gebrochen und in Gefahr des Rückfalls in die vor- und außerjüdische Spaltung, auch das Wesen des Christentums (den Ernst und die Aktualität deser Gefahr zeigen in der Gegenwart wieder Barth und Gogarten). Und diese Ineinssetzung ist der Offenbarungskern der Bibel und das, was sie zur jüdischen Bibel macht; der Unterscheid der jüdischen Bibel vom "Alten Testament" liegt darin, daß vom Neuen Testament aus allzu leicht der Gtt des "Alten" dem "Vater Jesu Christi" gegenüber weider gewissermaßen auf den "Gott des Aristoteles" reduziert wird. Und eben diese Ineinssetzung ist es, die mit ihrer aus dem ICH BIN DA-Ruf vom brennenden Dorn hervorschlagenden Glut in den Gottesnamen die ganze Bibel in eins schmiedet, indem sie überall die Gleichung des Gottes der Schöpfung mit dem mir, dir, jedem Gegenwärtigen vollzieht, - diese Gleichung, deren Feuer am heißesten brennt an den Stellen, wo der Gottesname und das Wort für Gott aufeinander prallen, wie in den Paradieskapiteln der Genesis oder in dem Einheitsruf des "Hör, Jisrael", überhaupt den Stellen, wo Mendelssohn "der Ewige" nicht genügt und er duch "das ewige Wesen" das Bezogenwerden auf die Namensoffenbarung des Exodus in seiner Weise ganz sicherzustellen sucht."&lt;/blockquote&gt;F. Rosenzweig, "'Der Ewige.' Mendelssohn und der Gottesnahme," in Reinhold and Annemarie Mayer, eds.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Zweistromland: Kleinere Schriften zu Glauben und Denken &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;(Dordrecht: Martinus Nijhoff Publischers, 1984), 109-110.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-2169051018636510849?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/aN_W5viPLPo" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/2169051018636510849/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=2169051018636510849&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/2169051018636510849?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/2169051018636510849?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/aN_W5viPLPo/rosenzweig-on-essence-of.html" title="Rosenzweig on the essence of Judaism/Christianity" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TLberIiT0dI/AAAAAAAAFiU/hKw4Aydca2M/s72-c/01.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/10/rosenzweig-on-essence-of.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkYGQHY9eCp7ImA9Wx5UEEk.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-3172696305481451364</id><published>2010-10-12T19:17:00.004+02:00</published><updated>2010-10-14T11:22:01.860+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-10-14T11:22:01.860+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Judaism" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Kabbala" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="'Messianic' Judaism" /><title>The literal vs Messianic Torah: Quote of the Day</title><content type="html">&lt;blockquote&gt;Regarding the Torah in its literality, which is the Torah of the mundane world, it is worthless when compared to the Messianic Torah and the Torah of the world to come … Regarding the Mishnah, there can be no doubt that the Mishnah’s literal aspects are but veils, shells and outer wrappings when compared to the hidden mysteries which are inherent and insinuated in its inner aspects (i.e. Kabbalah). [*]&lt;/blockquote&gt;[*]&amp;nbsp;Hayim Vital, &lt;i&gt;Etz-Hayyim&lt;/i&gt; [Warsaw, 1891; Jerusalem, 1910], ‘Introduction to the Gate of Introductions’, p. 2. Cited in&amp;nbsp;Elior, R. (1997). "Not All is in the Hands of Heaven: Eschatology and Kabbalah." In H. Graf Reventlow (Ed.), &lt;i&gt;Eschatology in the Bible and in Jewish and Christian tradition&lt;/i&gt; (H. Graf Reventlow, Ed.) (58). Sheffield: Sheffield Academic Press.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-3172696305481451364?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/84tRRaF1QM4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/3172696305481451364/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=3172696305481451364&amp;isPopup=true" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3172696305481451364?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3172696305481451364?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/84tRRaF1QM4/literal-vs-messianic-torah-quote-of-day.html" title="The literal vs Messianic Torah: Quote of the Day" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/10/literal-vs-messianic-torah-quote-of-day.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A0ICRnszfyp7ImA9Wx5VFk8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-3399978666161325754</id><published>2010-10-09T15:04:00.002+02:00</published><updated>2010-10-09T15:06:07.587+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-10-09T15:06:07.587+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="History: 'dialectical' understanding" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Quandaries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Historical Criticism" /><title>"Ontological thirst": my new favourite phrase</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TLBnzHDeH9I/AAAAAAAAFiQ/_LYKcyG4vYY/s1600/thirst.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="145" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TLBnzHDeH9I/AAAAAAAAFiQ/_LYKcyG4vYY/s200/thirst.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;While perusing the fascinating collection of essays contained i&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_899327907"&gt;n &lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=U1rht9vqaUgC&amp;amp;dq=resurrection+theological+scientific+welker&amp;amp;hl=de&amp;amp;ei=TGKwTO_wDobCswa29ojNDQ&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=1&amp;amp;ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA"&gt;Resurrection: Theological and Scientific Assessments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, I came across what has now become one of my favourite phrases: "ontological thirst." We all have it, though I wonder how many theories of "theological hermeneutics" are constructed in denial of that fact?&lt;br /&gt;
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The context of the quote is the relation between science and theology, rather than theological hermeneutics, thought I do think that Welker's essay has hermeneutical implications (for the relationship between "history" and "ontology" go &lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2009/02/history-and-ontology-as-subject-of.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and &lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2008/09/thread-summary-bible-and-historian_09.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;
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Here's the context for the phrase:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Only knowledge of reality constitutes truth, and only truth can quench the thirst that le&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span class="text_exposed_show" style="display: inline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;ads to research. ... The point of departure [for scientists and theologians] is difficult. We recognize ... that we find ourselves in a worldwide cultural communication but with multiple rationalities. .. Within this pluralism of rationalities, however, science and theology share something in common. Both are driven by ontological thirst, by the thirst to know reality as it is. Both shun delusion. Both are pursued by truth-seeking communities." (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Resurrection&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;, p. xiii).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-3399978666161325754?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/GIMZ60JcO8Y" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/3399978666161325754/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=3399978666161325754&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3399978666161325754?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3399978666161325754?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/GIMZ60JcO8Y/ontological-thirst-my-new-favourite.html" title="&quot;Ontological thirst&quot;: my new favourite phrase" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TLBnzHDeH9I/AAAAAAAAFiQ/_LYKcyG4vYY/s72-c/thirst.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/10/ontological-thirst-my-new-favourite.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;D08BQHc-fyp7ImA9Wx5VFU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-3310319383224396289</id><published>2010-10-08T12:58:00.005+02:00</published><updated>2010-10-08T13:04:11.957+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-10-08T13:04:11.957+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Quandaries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Interpretation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="B.S. Childs" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Journal of Theological Interpretation" /><title>Is "canonical exegesis" too difficult?</title><content type="html">Christopher Hays, in a review of Childs' &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=7bd3BgVpGSUC&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;dq=struggle+to+understand+isaiah+childs&amp;amp;hl=de&amp;amp;ei=zfiuTKSpIcXDswbw3rHQDQ&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=1&amp;amp;ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;The&amp;nbsp;Struggle to Understand Isaiah as Christian Scripture&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, has the following to say about the difficulty of doing the kind of exegesis Childs called "canonical":&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The intellectual entrance fee for writing good theological exegesis&amp;nbsp;must be very steep. If Childs or his heirs want to claim an elevated status&amp;nbsp;for their project, that ambition should come with an even higher standard&amp;nbsp;of training and preparation than “mere” historical-philological scholarship.&amp;nbsp;Childs certainly met any standard that anyone could set, but not every&amp;nbsp;theological interpreter does. He once called for a “single method” comprising&amp;nbsp;both dimensions of the text, but it is here that his omission of 20th&amp;nbsp;century theologian-exegetes is most lamentable: Younger scholars pursuing&amp;nbsp;a “single method” approach receive no road map from Childs—they cannot&amp;nbsp;learn, in this book, from the successes and errors of their immediate predecessors.&amp;nbsp;(Nor do younger scholars who are less inclined to be sympathetic receive&amp;nbsp;any constructive criticism, unless they are acolytes of Brueggemann.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Even if Childs had explained his “single method,” there are few who&amp;nbsp;can and will ever master all of the necessary skills. It may be that the array&amp;nbsp;of tools one needs to conduct theological biblical criticism is so extensive&amp;nbsp;that canonical criticism is not really a young scholar’s game. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;How then&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;could theological exegesis be carried out without requiring one person to&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;master both biblical studies and theology?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;[*]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I appreciate the final question. I'd say that one &lt;i&gt;must&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;strain to master both. Perhaps the solution to the problem lies in the way that university/seminary curricula are structured and integrated? Can they be adapted so that future students can receive the foundation they need to go on and wrestle with the "substance" of the text?&lt;br /&gt;
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[*] "Bard Called the Tune,"&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;JTI&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;4.1 (2010), 151.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-3310319383224396289?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/r31jZBHKtu8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/3310319383224396289/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=3310319383224396289&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3310319383224396289?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3310319383224396289?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/r31jZBHKtu8/is-canonical-exegesis-too-difficult.html" title="Is &quot;canonical exegesis&quot; too difficult?" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/10/is-canonical-exegesis-too-difficult.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CE8AQHsyfCp7ImA9Wx5VEk0.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-311940536206235595</id><published>2010-10-04T16:34:00.000+02:00</published><updated>2010-10-04T16:34:01.594+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-10-04T16:34:01.594+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Systematic Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Canonical Approach" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="B.S. Childs" /><title>The significance of B.S. Childs?</title><content type="html">&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TKnlAiKnLQI/AAAAAAAAFiM/F_8vCjCy60I/s1600/070625_childs.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TKnlAiKnLQI/AAAAAAAAFiM/F_8vCjCy60I/s320/070625_childs.jpg" width="225" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Much of this blog has been dedicated to extolling the praises of a man whose work has deeply influenced me, both spiritually and intellectually: Brevard Childs. I rarely come across statements that express something of the depth of my appreciation, though perhaps&lt;a href="http://www.yale.edu/divinity/news/070625_news_childs.shtml"&gt; Seitz's comments&lt;/a&gt; come close. Recently, however, I read a eulogy that tops anything I have said on this blog. In fact, the praises are so high I'm left wondering whether I can fully agree with them. Perhaps my lack a full breadth of knowledge of the field disqualifies me from being able to make an informed judgement, but based on my experience to date I do think I can identify with McGlasson's sentiments. The following is taken from the preface to his&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://cruciality.wordpress.com/category/paul-mcglasson/"&gt; Invitation to Dogmatic Theology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The third decisive influence [on my approach] is the biblical work of Brevard S. Childs. I attended Yale Divinty School primarily in order to learn directly from Childs, and my eager expectation was met by an even greater reality. It is now clear that the work of Childs on canon &lt;i&gt;amounts to nothing less than a brilliant new vision of scripture without parallel in the history of the church&lt;/i&gt;, though deeply rooted in the church's tradition of reading scripture. Every theologian worthy of the name has turned directly to scripture as the one source for the knowledge of God. Where else does the church learn to know Jesus Christ? However, &lt;i&gt;never before has the church been closer to the shape and subject matter of scripture &lt;/i&gt;than in Childs's work on canon. The confession of canon was the first and foundational creedal affirmation of the ancient church; &lt;i&gt;yet not until Childs's work have the full implications of that confession been so crystal clear and inviting for reflection&lt;/i&gt;. Once again, &lt;i&gt;a new era has begun&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;i&gt;Theology can never again go back behind Childs&lt;/i&gt; when it wrestles with scripture, &lt;i&gt;nor can it count as genuine Christian theology unless it sees with precision the full force of the vision he articulates&lt;/i&gt;. The future of dogmatic theology lies with realizing the connection of the discipline with the Bible, and that connection depends upon a firm theological grasp of the issue of canon. The confession of canon is an ontological necessity for dogmatic inquiry and the proper beginning of all valid theological reflection (14-15).&lt;/blockquote&gt;So, how do people feel about that?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-311940536206235595?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/PCy3xUmzxJU" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/311940536206235595/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=311940536206235595&amp;isPopup=true" title="11 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/311940536206235595?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/311940536206235595?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/PCy3xUmzxJU/significance-of-bs-childs.html" title="The significance of B.S. Childs?" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TKnlAiKnLQI/AAAAAAAAFiM/F_8vCjCy60I/s72-c/070625_childs.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>11</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/10/significance-of-bs-childs.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DU8DQHc-fyp7ImA9Wx5VEE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-2128390152308153671</id><published>2010-10-02T18:44:00.000+02:00</published><updated>2010-10-02T18:44:31.957+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-10-02T18:44:31.957+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Judaism" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Quandaries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Psalms" /><title>A further (Jewish) critical thought on the Oxford Psalms Conference</title><content type="html">&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;In my last post I shared some c&lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/09/critical-thoughts-on-oxford-psalms.html"&gt;ritical thoughts about the recent Oxford Psalms conference&lt;/a&gt;. Given that I'm a Christian and one of my issues with the logic of the conference had to do with that fact, I'm delighted that a Jewish friend of mine shared her critical thoughts on the matter in response to the post. She wasn't present for various reasons, but one of them will become clear in her comments (which I post with permission):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I'd like to add my own pesky little issue here which has less to do with the content (although ultimately it most likely does) but rather the organization of the conference. If it was the intention of the organizers to foster a dialogue between communities I do wonder what prompted them to schedule the conference exactly on one of the important Jewish festivals, i.e. Sukkot? By this scheduling blunder they effectively excluded and silenced one particular segment of the Jewish academic and clerical community (namely the Orthodox). I do realize that there were some Jewish participants; however these would not represent, speak for and from that particular segment which is also part of the larger Jewish group. This is interesting because it is exactly that absent group that takes the Psalter (or they would prefer Sefer Tehillim) very seriously as a living tradition, both in liturgy as well as in individual petionary prayer. So, as far as the organizers are concerned – for the umpteenth time in comparable circumstances: it’s their loss. Sad thing though is, they probably don’t even realize that they did suffer a loss and will whisk it away as an irrelevant irritant…. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This fact was pointed out at the conference, for which the organizers apologized. I'm not sure of the reasoning, but I think there were organizational complications that couldn't be avoided. However, given that the explicit agenda of the conference was to encourage a mutual "moving beyond" differences in Christian and Jewish exegesis, the absence of an incredibly significant segment of the Jewish population - a segment which stands in most continuity with the traditions that define Judaism - seriously limits the conference's capacity to make progress on its stated goals.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-2128390152308153671?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/Ss0yEM1PXMw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/2128390152308153671/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=2128390152308153671&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/2128390152308153671?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/2128390152308153671?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/Ss0yEM1PXMw/further-jewish-critical-thought-on.html" title="A further (Jewish) critical thought on the Oxford Psalms Conference" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/10/further-jewish-critical-thought-on.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CkQESHk_fip7ImA9Wx5WFkw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-3718321457433209545</id><published>2010-09-27T19:58:00.000+02:00</published><updated>2010-09-27T19:58:29.746+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-09-27T19:58:29.746+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Quandaries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Interpretation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Psalms" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Historical Criticism" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="B.S. Childs" /><title>Critical thoughts on the Oxford Psalms Conference</title><content type="html">I've just returned from the &lt;a href="http://www.oxford-psalms-conference.co.uk/Oxford_Psalms_Conference/Home.html"&gt;Oxford Psalms conference&lt;/a&gt;, of which Bob MacDonald has provided&lt;a href="http://meafar.blogspot.com/"&gt; an overview&lt;/a&gt; in a series of posts (along with some photos and a &lt;a href="http://meafar.blogspot.com/2010/09/music-of-bible.html"&gt;youtube video&lt;/a&gt; of the reconstructed Temple Psalmody we heard in the chapel). The experience was enriching, eye-opening, and in particular motivating as far as my own particular strand of work is concerned (Childs' approach to the Bible). Despite a technical hiccup with the publication of&lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/09/abstract-of-my-doctoral-thesis-on-ps-24.html"&gt; my abstract&lt;/a&gt;, I had two amazing conversations with two of the Psalms' greatest contemporary students: Erhard Gerstenberger and Frank-Lothar Hossfeld. The beauty of these two separate dialogues is that Hossfeld and Gerstenberger are in fact &lt;i&gt;Gegenspieler&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;as far as methodology is concerned: Gerstenberger representing the "older" form critical approach (an approach whose presuppositions are rightly still foundational for much contemporary interpretation) and Hossfeld representing the "newer" synchronic approach (&lt;i&gt;Sitz im Buch&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;rather than &lt;i&gt;Sitz im Leben&lt;/i&gt;). Part of my thesis is that there is, in fact, a bridge over the apparent chasm that separates these two approaches (one that allows for two-way traffic), and that Childs, properly understood, is the man who has brought that reality most clearly to view.&lt;br /&gt;
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And therein lies the problem I have with an otherwise excellent conference: the complete silence&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;(beyond a few minor footnotes)&amp;nbsp;concerning Childs' own contribution to the field that, I would claim, he helped shape into its present form. I find this problematic for a minor and for a major reason. Of minor&amp;nbsp;significance&amp;nbsp;is simply the irony that it is ultimately the work of Brevard Childs that has made &lt;i&gt;the &lt;a href="http://www.oxford-psalms-conference.co.uk/Oxford_Psalms_Conference/Conference_Programme.html"&gt;peculiar &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.oxford-psalms-conference.co.uk/Oxford_Psalms_Conference/Conference_Programme.html"&gt;scope&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;of this particular conference possible in the first place. Am I exaggerating? Perhaps - I'm not an expert on the history of scholarship. But before Childs'&amp;nbsp;ground-breaking&amp;nbsp;work, did not "&lt;i&gt;Wirkungsgeschichte&lt;/i&gt;" belong in the church/Jewish history department? And wasn't "Jewish/Christian" dialogue a concern of systematic theology? And why should the Psalm's liturgical actualization within a&lt;i&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;community of faith&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;now migrate from the department of liturgy to that of Biblical exegesis? Aside from&amp;nbsp;the obvious (though seemingly forgotten) fact that it was Childs who put both the Psalm superscriptions and the shape of the Psalter on the interpretive agenda, was he not also the first to insist that the full scope of research questions displayed at this conference was in fact an integral and necessary part of &lt;i&gt;the exegesis of the text itself&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;
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My primary concern here is not, however, about apportioning recognition where it is due. My major concern is with &lt;i&gt;the coherence of the conference itself&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;and, along with that, the discipline of Biblical studies.&amp;nbsp;One impression that accompanied me throughout the conference was the &lt;i&gt;disjointed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;manner by which the various fields of research were brought into relation. A historical critical reading of a Psalm was simply one possibility alongside an analysis of the history of its interpretation. The musical renditions of the Psalms in the chapel were aesthetic (perhaps spiritual), but not connected in any academically accountable way with the actual meaning of the texts themselves. Even talk of the "convergence" of Jewish and Christian interpretation in the modern period seemed disconnected from actual faith claims made by these communities (can Christian exegesis be non-Christological?) as well the constructive interpretive proposals made by Biblical exegetes, whose primary task is to look at the meaning of the text itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is one thing to present&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.oxford-psalms-conference.co.uk/Oxford_Psalms_Conference/Conference_Rationale.html"&gt;an "array" of approaches to the Psalms&lt;/a&gt;, but the very act of arraying presupposes that there is some unity which the diversity of approaches ought, in some sense, to illuminate. Even in a so-called "postmodern" context, a conference such as this one must at least, at rock bottom, assume the presence of a single subject matter: the &lt;i&gt;Psalms themselves&lt;/i&gt;. Are they not the ultimate object of research? Ought not the various subject areas thus arrayed function to enlighten our reading &lt;i&gt;of the Psalms themselves &lt;/i&gt;rather than something else connected to the psalms? I fear that the very telos of such a conference is threatened when there is no attempt to bring diachronic, synchronic, reception history (etc.) perspectives into dialogue with each other, a dialogue that is &lt;i&gt;about the Psalms themselves&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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If the conference was not about the Psalms, what was it &lt;i&gt;about&lt;/i&gt;? What was its unifying object of inquiry? If one is to argue - as seems implied - that illustrating the tension between peshat&amp;nbsp;and midrash&amp;nbsp;is interesting &lt;i&gt;in its own right&lt;/i&gt;, that questions of the ordering of the Qumran Psalms or Rastafarian reinterpretation or medieval religious usage are all interesting &lt;i&gt;in their own right&lt;/i&gt;, then it seems that the only thing uniting these approaches is the phenomenon of human cultural endeavour, as it is engaged in referring to or preserving or creating or inspiring or involving in some manner Israel's psalms. It seems that our Psalms conference was ultimately an exercise in cultural anthropology. If what matters is what humans have done and do then it is perfectly understandable&amp;nbsp;that Rashi is simply juxtaposed with Akhenaten, the Temple archives with Anglo-Saxon&amp;nbsp;Psalters, Qumranic textual variants with postmodern paraphrase. On this view, the proper object of inquiry is not the text itself as a vehicle of some concept or reality but &lt;i&gt;us&lt;/i&gt;, humanity in its aspect as cultural being. The consequence is that the intertextual web is expanded indefinitely and Biblical studies migrates to the cultural anthropology department, where it threatens to dissolve upon arrival.&lt;br /&gt;
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The irony in this is that the conference's explicit agenda was &lt;i&gt;theological&lt;/i&gt;, not anthropological. It's title, "Conflict and Convergence," points to a desire to overcome readings by the Jewish and Christian &lt;i&gt;faith &lt;/i&gt;communities which are mutually exclusive. The assumption is that the modern university can now, finally, after centuries of conflicting exegesis, provide a context whereby the exegeses of these two religious entities&amp;nbsp;can finally "converge." Yet, can an approach to the Bible which is ultimately anthropological fulfil that task? Though both Jews and Christians confess that God's Word comes in humans words, those human words are also understood to be vehicles of God's Word. This is why Scripture is "holy," it has something to do with God, and not just in phenomenologically sense that they &lt;i&gt;claim&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;this to be so, but in the ontological sense that it really is. Christians and Jews are ultimately not interested in what humans have done or do with the Psalms, they are interested in what they&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;should do&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;of &lt;/i&gt;the Psalms.&lt;br /&gt;
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I would summarize my issue with the Oxford conference as a question: &lt;i&gt;what constitutes the &lt;u&gt;coherence&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;under-girding&amp;nbsp;the broad (and ever expanding) scope of interests arrayed for our attention&lt;/i&gt;? If, as the conference has implied, that coherence is human existence &lt;i&gt;per se&lt;/i&gt;, the conference's own theological agenda will be undermined. But is there another way of conceiving the unity of the approaches? Could it be that Old Testament studies' typical&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Sitz im Leben&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in the &lt;i&gt;theology&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;rather than anthropology department is not an accidental misjudgement but rather an indication of the true coherence under-girding both the text and community? And if so, what does this kind of coherence mean for Jewish and Christian dialogue? Which is another way of asking, "how do we grasp the meaning of the Psalms?"&lt;br /&gt;
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It is here that Childs can, once again, provide a pointer for the future (providing he is&amp;nbsp;divested of the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.danieldriver.com/bsc/"&gt;distortion that constitutes much of his own reception history&lt;/a&gt;). Childs was not only the originator of attempts to appropriate the full breadth of Jewish and Christian exegesis, seen as being intimately connected to the diachronic and synchronic dimensions of the text, he did so for the sake of a single object of inquiry: &lt;i&gt;the Biblical text itself&lt;/i&gt;. Which is the same thing as saying: he did it for the sake of &lt;i&gt;the subject matter &lt;/i&gt;of the Biblical text.&amp;nbsp;Already in the preface to his ground-breaking 1974 Exodus commentary (although admittedly it took a while for the ground to break) we gain hints at his grasp of the potential organic connection between the history "to" the text and the history "from" the text, a history that, despite its temporal extension in&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;our&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;time, turns to rotate on that central hub that is&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;the Bible's own&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;time&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, which is&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;God's&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Childs' own proposals for the coherency of the discipline are bound to remain contentious (even when correctly understood), and this is necessarily so because of their unapologetically confessional rootage. But the challenge he poses still remains open to those who would unknowingly walk in his footsteps without taking a glance at the interconnected coordinates he set to map the way: What is the Bible ultimately about? What is the most adequate context for its study? Wherein lies the coherence under-girding the diversity of fields of research displayed and&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;awkwardly correlated&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;at the Oxford Psalms conference?&amp;nbsp;In other words, and I think this is the decisive question: &lt;i&gt;what constitutes their unity&lt;/i&gt;? Can the answer to this question - regardless of where it falls on the ideological spectrum - be anything other than confessional?&lt;br /&gt;
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My hope is that one day Childs will indeed get the credit he deserves. I do not hope this for his sake, however, but for the sake of Biblical interpretation, which is for the sake of the interpretive community, whether Jewish, Christian, or secular.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-3718321457433209545?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/6H3ycsJc7yQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/3718321457433209545/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=3718321457433209545&amp;isPopup=true" title="5 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3718321457433209545?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3718321457433209545?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/6H3ycsJc7yQ/critical-thoughts-on-oxford-psalms.html" title="Critical thoughts on the Oxford Psalms Conference" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>5</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/09/critical-thoughts-on-oxford-psalms.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0QHQXY4eyp7ImA9Wx5XFko.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-4944063208551820189</id><published>2010-09-16T23:08:00.002+02:00</published><updated>2010-09-16T23:08:50.833+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-09-16T23:08:50.833+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="preaching" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Logos" /><title>McGlasson on Hughes Oliphant Old's The Reading and Preaching of the Scriptures in the Worship of the Christian Church</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TI5y3VkIKEI/AAAAAAAAFhg/3VyItYsenSA/s1600/7445.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TI5y3VkIKEI/AAAAAAAAFhg/3VyItYsenSA/s320/7445.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I noticed that Logos have &lt;a href="http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/7445"&gt;Hughes Oliphant Old's 7 volumne tome on pre-pub&lt;/a&gt; and thought I'd most comments that Paul McGlasson made on the volume:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The horizontal and vertical dimensions of Christian proclamation are held together best in the expository sermon. In his comprehensive history of preaching, &lt;i&gt;The Reading and Preaching of the Scriptures in the Worship of the Christian Church&lt;/i&gt;, Hughes Oliphant Old has sought to recover the brilliance and excitement of the grand tradition of Christian proclamation. His multivolume survey clearly lays before the contemporary reader the vast range of powerful and exciting voices from the Christian past, with the corresponding challenge that those voices present for the future. Old has done the universal church an enormous service. Above all, his endeavor to show the magnificent reach of proclamation in every time and place across the face of the globe sets a hight standard for the work of the coming generations. In this introduction, Old charts what he sees as the primary forms of proclamation that ebb and flow across the years: the expository sermon, evangelistic preaching, catechetical preaching, festal preaching, and prophetic preaching. There is no doubt that Old has accurately captured the wide range of preaching in this classification. Throughout the volumes, he is able to show the various forms shaped and reshaped &amp;nbsp;according to the changing resources of the church. Furthermore, every working minister knows that the form and function of sermons occasionally differ according to changing circumstance. Surely any real progress in contemporary proclamation will depend upon a fresh recovery of the grand tradition that Old describes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;P. McGlasson, &lt;i&gt;Invitation to Dogmatic Theology: A Canonical Approach&lt;/i&gt;, 168-169.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-4944063208551820189?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/QC3E30k96uw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/4944063208551820189/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=4944063208551820189&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/4944063208551820189?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/4944063208551820189?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/QC3E30k96uw/mcglasson-on-hughes-oliphant-olds.html" title="McGlasson on Hughes Oliphant Old's &lt;em&gt;The Reading and Preaching of the Scriptures in the Worship of the Christian Church&lt;/em&gt;" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TI5y3VkIKEI/AAAAAAAAFhg/3VyItYsenSA/s72-c/7445.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/09/mcglasson-on-hughes-oliphant-olds.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0YNRnw_eSp7ImA9Wx5WFUU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-3627156301651476557</id><published>2010-09-13T14:32:00.003+02:00</published><updated>2010-09-27T11:53:17.241+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-09-27T11:53:17.241+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="History: 'dialectical' understanding" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="prophecy" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theological Interpretation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Psalm 24" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Isaiah" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christ in Old Testament" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Trinitarian Theology" /><title>An Abstract of my doctoral thesis on Ps 24</title><content type="html">&lt;i&gt;The following is an abstract of my doctoral thesis on Ps 24 which Susan Gillingham has kindly offered to publish at the forthcoming &lt;a href="http://www.oxford-psalms-conference.co.uk/Oxford_Psalms_Conference/Home.html"&gt;Oxford Conference on the Psalms&lt;/a&gt;. It focusses on the exegetical dimension, leaving aside the hermeneutical and dogmatic parts of my doctorate. I'd appreciate feedback and questions (and bear in mind that the content of this blog is copyright):&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; orphans: 2; widows: 2;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;My thesis is an attempt to read Ps 24 in the context of B.S. Childs' “canonical approach,” rightly understood. The first half outlines the coherence of his approach, which is not a method but a comprehensive construal of the particular nature of Israel's religious traditions that factors in the ontological reality its God.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Turning to Ps 24, I argue that it is a poetically structured reworking of prior authoritative traditions with the goal of constraining future reception of those traditions, accomplished dialectically in the context of Israel's broader theological heritage, with the goal of witnessing to the true theological substance of that heritage. In particular, I argue that Ps 24 attempts to penetrate to the heart of God's ways in the world by drawing on Israel's core traditions of creation, Sinai/Zion, holy war, and the Davidic king and by subtly structuring their interrelations.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;The interpretive crux is the poetic juxtaposition of two portrayals of character: the obedient character of those who may access the fullness of creational life within the temple on Zion, accrued upon completion of the journey of pilgrimage, and the character of the author and guarantor of this life, the Lord, presented as a mighty warrior, about to enter into that very same location. The juxtaposition entails a subtle poetic movement of “actualization,” enacted within the protological/eschatological horizon of creation, whereby the Lord appears to accomplish what is only a possibility for Jacob. The significance of this juxtaposition, however, remains vague at the level of the Psalm alone. An account of Israel's cult along with a “theology of the Psalter” proves the paradigmatic centrality of Ps 24's themes to Biblical faith and strengthens the sense of their interconnectedness, yet it does not resolve the significance of their poetic presentation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;A significant hermeneutical key is provided by the “canonical marker”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Tahoma;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'SBL Hebrew';"&gt;&lt;span lang="he-IL"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;לדוד&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;, which asks us to read the Psalm in relation to the theological persona of David, a hermeneutical construct within the Psalter that takes its cue from the Book of Samuel. In Samuel we find that the context that constitutes David's identity mirrors the structure and content of Ps 24. On the one hand, David is an historically particular free agent who, out of love for God and Israel, acts on Israel's and his own behalf in obedience to torah in order to bring it and himself, through battle, to full creational blessing on Zion (2 Sam 6-8). On the other hand, David's story is embedded in a broader eschatological narrative in which David is a vehicle of the true agent of history, the Lord, who similarly acts in order to bring about his own purpose of divine communion with his righteous people in full creational blessing on Zion. As Ps 24 implies, God, through David, is the true subject of Israel's redemption in Zion, though not without its obedience. Given the persistent presence of disobedience, this fulfilment in time remains proleptic and the ancient cycle of Israel's struggle for life and divine judgement/redemption is perpetuated. This same dialectical pattern applies to the “David of the Psalter” whereby, on the one hand, “David” struggles for his own and Israel's life and witnesses to the Lord's intervention in judgement/salvation and, on the other hand, this cycle is situated within the ultimate context of divine reality.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Ps 24's paradigmatic nature and hermeneutical function for Biblical faith becomes clearer when it is read as the&amp;nbsp;frame and climax of the chiastically structured sub-collection of Pss 15-24. As part of the frame (Pss 15 and 19), it functions to set the remaining Psalms within the context of base realities: obedience to torah for the sake of creation. As the climax of the collection, understood as a series of intensifying parallelisms, it depicts the fulfilment of that reality with an arrival in Zion/new creation itself, albeit an arrival by the Lord with Jacob apparently in his train.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;A final clarification is provided by the Book of Isaiah, itself related to the Psalter, which deals with the persistent problem of Israel's disobedience by reconstituting it by means of the “Servant,” the “father” of 3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;rd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Isaiah's redeemed “servants.” Thus, similar to 2 Sam 7 and in line with the dialectic of Ps 24, the Lord's creation intentions come to fruition in Zion upon the entry of a newly constituted Jacob, created and led by the Lord. Like Ps 24, however, Isaiah closes with the Lord still poised before the gates, leaving the consummation of Israel's pilgrimage open to the future.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Finally, in an attempt to clarify the Psalm's theological subject matter in its “economic” and “ontological” dimensions, this reading of Ps 24 is brought into dialogue with patristic and rabbinic exegesis, Jenson's Trinitarian metaphysic of heaven and Farrow's treatment of the Ascension&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-3627156301651476557?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/SNUvQZ2qO_E" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/3627156301651476557/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=3627156301651476557&amp;isPopup=true" title="8 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3627156301651476557?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/3627156301651476557?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/SNUvQZ2qO_E/abstract-of-my-doctoral-thesis-on-ps-24.html" title="An Abstract of my doctoral thesis on Ps 24" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>8</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/09/abstract-of-my-doctoral-thesis-on-ps-24.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEICSH0zfip7ImA9Wx5XEU8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-2548112330226514433</id><published>2010-09-10T14:42:00.000+02:00</published><updated>2010-09-10T14:42:49.386+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-09-10T14:42:49.386+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="good news" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Psalm 24" /><title>The substance of Psalm 24</title><content type="html">This is a provisional attempt to briefly summarize my understanding of the reality to which Psalm 24 testifies. I'd appreciate critical feedback or suggestions:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The reality attested to by the final form of Psalm 24 is a protological/eschatological narrative in which God's own destiny consists in communion with a righteous people in the context of new creation, a reality proleptically experienced in the temple yet consistently interrupted by the presence of cosmic and human evil and thus the need for divine militant intervention. Despite the requirement of wilful human participation in this reality, it is ultimately God himself who not only creates the space of new creation but also the people to inhabit it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Even this is not the "rock bottom" reality to which Psalm 24 witnesses, as it is only the economic unfolding of the eternal ontological being of God himself. Thus, the reality to which Psalm 24 witnesses is not the "narrative" of God's activity but the eternal substance of his being himself. But I'm writing this for an&lt;a href="http://www.oxford-psalms-conference.co.uk/Oxford_Psalms_Conference/Home.html"&gt; Oxford Psalms conference&lt;/a&gt; so I have to watch my language.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-2548112330226514433?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/pVaBQBdox_4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/2548112330226514433/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=2548112330226514433&amp;isPopup=true" title="7 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/2548112330226514433?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/2548112330226514433?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/pVaBQBdox_4/substance-of-psalm-24.html" title="The substance of Psalm 24" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>7</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/09/substance-of-psalm-24.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEMMQH4zfCp7ImA9Wx5bEko.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-280055831643779636</id><published>2010-09-03T21:59:00.002+02:00</published><updated>2010-10-28T15:28:01.084+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-10-28T15:28:01.084+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Miscellaneous" /><title>My daughter, Jasmine</title><content type="html">&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TIEOeH28NZI/AAAAAAAAFhQ/sHpuyrsHBFQ/s1600/Jasmine+012.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TIEOeH28NZI/AAAAAAAAFhQ/sHpuyrsHBFQ/s320/Jasmine+012.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Jasmine&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;This bundle of cuteness is one reason for my lack of posting of late. She arrived a tad early, but the birth was without complications and all in all she's as fit as a fiddle. I do hope to get back to posting, but getting used to my transformed &lt;i&gt;Sitz im Leben&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;will take a while. In addition this, the doctorate is drawing to a close and I have a number of translation jobs (German-English) in the pipeline, which will leave me with less time than usual. However, this blog has been such a blessing that I don't intend to let it die off&amp;nbsp;altogether. For those who are interested, my current thread consists in a treck through Childs' Exodus and Isaiah commentaries with an eye to examples of exegesis which illustrate what I consider to be the building blocks of his canonical approach. For an overview of posts to date, go &lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/06/exegesis-of-bs-childs-overview.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and being a father rocks. Though I'm still struggling with its ontological implications, I can say with certainty that it constitutes the &lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2007/09/this-blog-has-altered-my-ontology.html"&gt;next big boundary crossing moment after these two&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-280055831643779636?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/IhJfBkCdY3w" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/280055831643779636/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=280055831643779636&amp;isPopup=true" title="11 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/280055831643779636?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/280055831643779636?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/IhJfBkCdY3w/my-daughter-jasmine.html" title="My daughter, Jasmine" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/TIEOeH28NZI/AAAAAAAAFhQ/sHpuyrsHBFQ/s72-c/Jasmine+012.JPG" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>11</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/09/my-daughter-jasmine.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkcFSXw6fSp7ImA9Wx5SFU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-4192408967471013240</id><published>2010-08-11T15:40:00.000+02:00</published><updated>2010-08-11T15:40:18.215+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-08-11T15:40:18.215+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="video clips" /><title>WordPlay: a sumptuous video</title><content type="html">A friend sent me this sumptuous video this morning:&amp;nbsp;&lt;object height="385" width="640"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/j0HfwkArpvU&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xd0d0d0&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/j0HfwkArpvU&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xd0d0d0&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I watched it the first time and just enjoyed the pageant of sounds, images, and evocations. I felt that there was an inner logic but it evaded me, until my astute friend suggested I pay attention to how one scene after another portrays a different dimension of the semantic range of a given word, and then the lights went on. Still, the blurb on the &lt;a href="http://blogs.wnyc.org/radiolab/2010/08/09/bonus-video-words/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;amp;utm_medium=${feed}&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Feed:+${radiolab}+(${Radiolab})"&gt;web page&lt;/a&gt; seems to promise something more philosophically profound:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;In this stunning video, filmmakers&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.everynone.com/" style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #e21e26; font-family: inherit; font-size: 13px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;Will Hoffman and Daniel Mercadante&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;bandy visual wordplay into a moving exploration of how language connects our inner thoughts to the outside world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;How does the video help us see this? I suppose it highlights the logic involved in expanding a basic meaning of a word (e.g. "fall" as a type of movement) to more metaphorical extensions ("fall" means "autumn" because that's when leaves fall).* But is that the criteria for their connections? In what sense are "light" as "luminescent" and "light" as "not heavy" connected? As far as I now their homophony is coincidental, as the two meanings seem to have two different roots. Is the idea rather that regardless of the etymology of a word, the fact that we now use a "word" (whatever that is: are "light" and "light" the same word?) to refer to a range of referents leads us to subconsciously see some kind of inner connection between the various referents? But that is bad linguistics, something that James Barr called "illegitimate totality transfer." As an Englishman I don't call Autumn "Fall," but that fact alone doesn't mean that I therefore perceive Autumn differently to an American.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or maybe I'm missing the deeper point altogether, so please feel free to enlighten me. Yet even if the video doesn't have a deeper philosophical point, it's still beautiful to watch.&lt;br /&gt;
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Check out their other awesome videos &lt;a href="http://www.everynone.com/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* I'm aware that some debate the existence of "basic meanings." See, e.g., Clines' introduction to the &lt;i&gt;Dictionary of Classical Hebrew&lt;/i&gt;. I side, however, with the views expressed by Michael Fox in his article on the semantic field of folly.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6547653347296107692-4192408967471013240?l=narrativeandontology.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~4/U4MBX_fdYcU" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/feeds/4192408967471013240/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6547653347296107692&amp;postID=4192408967471013240&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/4192408967471013240?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6547653347296107692/posts/default/4192408967471013240?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NarrativeAndOntology/~3/U4MBX_fdYcU/wordplay-sumptuous-video.html" title="WordPlay: a sumptuous video" /><author><name>Phil Sumpter</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16491514886782881340</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="32" height="24" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_dI8g2OtbqcA/RuO03bA0UxI/AAAAAAAAAAc/EU8nC4fwVxE/s320/2007_0722Israel-Urlaub0916.JPG" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/08/wordplay-sumptuous-video.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUcCRn8zcSp7ImA9Wx5SE0Q.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6547653347296107692.post-688231981284133748</id><published>2010-08-10T00:25:00.004+02:00</published><updated>2010-08-10T00:31:07.189+02:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-08-10T00:31:07.189+02:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="prophecy" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Canonical Approach" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Historical Criticism" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Isaiah" /><title>Third Isaiah, intertextutality, and history</title><content type="html">&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"&gt;In my post &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://narrativeandontology.blogspot.com/2010/07/biblical-canon-and-biblical.html"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"&gt;The Biblical canon and Biblical referentiality&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"&gt;, I stated that, as far as Childs is concerned, the final form of the canon of Scripture is not a totally hermeneutically sealed unit, such that one can make sense of the parts without reference to extra-textual realities. He certainly credits the final form of the text with far more integrity than many of his colleagues, but nevertheless the meaning of this final form is contoured to a large degree by the particular manner in which it came to existence. This calls for a subtle form of exegesis, one which takes into account the different "levels of consciousness" present within the "final form."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"&gt;"&lt;i&gt;First, Third Isaiah remains a prophetic collection, both in form and content, which means there is an encounter with actual historical realities, albeit seen in the light of the divine. This dimension dare not be flattened simply into a type of learned scribal activity dealing exclusively with literary texts. Second, not every occurrence of a parallel [with Second or First Isaiah] can be assigned to an intentional reuse. A critical assessment must be made that reckons with the &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="en-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: yellow; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;theological substance&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="en-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt; at stake beyond merely identifying formal parallelism discovered by the perusal of a concordance&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a class="sdfootnoteanc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6547653347296107692#sdfootnote1sym" name="sdfootnote1anc"&gt;1&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;a class="sdfootnoteanc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6547653347296107692#sdfootnote1sym" name="sdfootnote1anc"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"&gt;Childs' reference to the "theological substance" of the text here highlights another dimension of his concern to respect the historical nature of the text. Christianity claims that the Old Testament is a witness to a divine reality that was ultimately revealed in Christ. This was the concern of allegorical exegesis. Historical Criticism rightly retains this sense of extra-textual referentiality. Rejecting the constraints of the historical dimension and treating the text as a space for free-floating signifiers risks dampening its ability to point &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"&gt;beyond&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;itself the the reality that undergirds both past, present, and future.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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