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        <title>A consequence of "men are people, women are women"</title>
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        <published>2013-05-16T20:55:22-05:00</published>
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        <summary>When a Christian man discusses theology or the church, to men at least, his gender disappears. He is simply a neutral human being pondering God, hermeneutics, etc. But when a Christian woman discusses theology, her gender often becomes front and...</summary>
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            <name>Natalie</name>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://natalieburris.com/my_weblog/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p style="text-align: justify;">When a Christian man discusses theology or the church, to men at least, his gender disappears. He is simply a neutral human being pondering God, hermeneutics, etc. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">
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<p style="text-align: justify;">But when a Christian woman discusses theology, her gender often becomes front and center. To many, she is not a human being pondering theological or eccelesiological matters, but rather her woman-ness takes precedence. The common assumption is that she has some sort of feminist or otherwise non-"neutral" bent to her thoughts.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Dianna Anderson recently <a href="http://diannaeanderson.net/blog/2013/4/elephant-in-the-dock-the-male-as-neutral-and-objective" target="_blank">wrote a great post</a> about this phenomenon. Like many women who are interested in theology, Dianna often felt dismissed and "expected to exist apart from and without my womanhood in order to participate in those abstract discussions." She continues:</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">By my very existence as a woman in theological studies, I insert gender into a discussion that has been previously dominated by a homogenous group of straight, white, cisgender men – men for whom questions of gender and patriarchy were not relevant or pressing in their lives. I, by the very act of being a woman existing in the theological realm, frequently bring to the table a different perspective that is colored by my gendered existence.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Unfortunately, by allowing this experience to play a part in how I approach theology, I am told that I am playing identity politics, that I am failing to participate in the abstract, that I am inserting subjectivity into a previously objective realm.</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Dianna points out that a man's objectivity and neutrality simply do no exist. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I believe this illusion of men-as-people, women-as-women is a huge hurdle for Christian women who want to engage in conversations about theology and the church. Over at the excellent blog Women in Theology, <a href="http://womenintheology.org/2013/02/18/stop-talking-like-a-girl/" target="_blank">Julia points out the speech patterns</a> of many women who speak up. A graduate student in theology, Julia shares:</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">I wished someone had told me earlier in my graduate career to stop commenting in class like a girl.  When “girls” ask a question in class, they preface their inquiry with a qualification like, “This may be a basic question but…” or “I’m not really sure, but it seems to me…” or “Maybe everyone one else got this, but…”</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Julia frames the issue as self-sabotage and lack of self-confidence, but I also see a woman's hesitancy to speak confidently and with authority a product of our culture. Many white U.S. men do not feel the need to use self-effacing hedge words; rather, they are comfortable in their own already-represented, established skin. I see this in the courtroom all the time.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">When I was an undergraduate student, <a href="http://www.natalieburris.com/my_weblog/2005/02/gender_and_cult.html" target="_blank">an anthropological study of gendered speech patters in a non-U.S. culture</a> opened my eyes to the way in which language creates and reinforces gender roles. English-speaking (white) men tend to be more direct in speech, as compared to women who use "hedge words" like "well," "sort of," "maybe," "perhaps," etc. English-speaking men also tend to interrupt more often and are more successful at changing the topic of conversation. A look at Malagasy language (in Madagascar) reveals that women use direct and open speech, a behavior that is a sharp contrast to men. Women are known to be more straightforward, while men tend to use "hedge words" and subtleties. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Sadly, the U.S. church is no different than the broader U.S. culture. A few weeks ago, <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/ask-pastor-john/do-you-use-bible-commentaries-written-by-women" target="_self">John Piper reinforced our culture's persistent view that women's voices should be minimized</a>. Piper gave the go-ahead for Christian men to stop reading a commentary written by a woman if her femininity was too present. <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/women/2013/april/hey-john-piper-is-my-femininity-showing.html?paging=off" target="_blank">Rachel Pietka</a> likened Piper's views to nineteenth century oppression of U.S. women, during which time women had to minimize their physical presence and remain seated if they spoke out in the public (read: white male) sphere. Rachel notes that Piper encourages the belief "that men have a God-given right to employ forceful, in-your-face rhetoric, both to each other and to women." Women, on the other hand, should keep their voices indirect and impersonal.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The "consequences" of women having a voice in the church is not limited to the conservative branch of the U.S. church. The different ways in which the progressive Tony Jones and Rachel Held Evans are treated, for example, is quite revealing. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Rachel is one of the most gracious and patient U.S. evangelical voices online and in print. She writes with confidence, does not "hedge" often, and is a competent, intelligent woman who discusses theology and the church. Despite the fact that she takes great pains to act charitably and respectfully toward those with whom she disagrees, Rachel is often accused of <a href="http://www.dennyburk.com/rachel-held-evans-on-the-today-show-2/" target="_blank">making a mockery of Scripture</a>, and has really ticked off many <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/10/16/whos-afraid-of-rachel-held-evans/" target="_blank">white male evangelical gatekeepers</a>. In contrast, Tony Jones has a very abrasive, dismissive, and often petulant voice online. He is often not gracious toward his critics - see <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2012/11/28/where-are-the-women/" target="_blank">Exhibit A</a> and <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2013/05/16/im-tired-of-being-called-a-racist/" target="_blank">Exhibit B</a>. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Yes, Tony is criticized by the same camp that criticizes Rachel. But imagine if Tony were a woman. I am certain that the response to his writing would be wildly different. Or, imagine if Rachel behaved the way Tony acts. Many baseline responses to Rachel are that she is shrill, <a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/blog/gospel-coalition-jared-wilson-apology" target="_blank">emotional</a>, and polarizing -- or even a <a href="http://www.dougwils.com/Sex-and-Culture/the-politics-of-outrage.html" target="_blank">manipulative Delilah</a>. Imagine the outrage if Rachel were to respond to a commenter with a brusque "bullshit", or were as combative as Tony is in his blog posts and comments section. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Backed by the U.S. culture and church's belief that Men Are People, the objective neutral against which all Others are compared, Tony can employ as much forceful, in-your-face rhetoric as he wants, with impunity. But women who dare discuss theology with confidence, be careful not to poison the conversation with your feminist bent...lest we be deemed <a href="http://www.dougwils.com/Sex-and-Culture/bluestocking-feminism.html" target="_blank">silly women</a>.</p>
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        <title>Conservative evangelicals' persecution complex and same-sex marriage</title>
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        <published>2013-04-09T08:45:00-05:00</published>
        <updated>2013-04-08T23:11:05-05:00</updated>
        <summary>Despite being one of the largest voting blocs in the most powerful and wealthy nation in the world, American evangelical Christians often have a penchant for framing themselves as a persecuted minority. Recently, several events made me wonder if this...</summary>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://natalieburris.com/my_weblog/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p style="text-align: justify;">Despite being one of the <a href="http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx#comp" target="_blank">largest</a> voting blocs in the most powerful and wealthy nation in the world, American evangelical Christians often have a penchant for framing themselves as a persecuted minority.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Recently, several events made me wonder if this persecution complex would again rear its ugly head. The <a href="http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/hollingsworth-v-perry/?wpmp_switcher=desktop" target="_blank">Supreme</a> <a href="http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/windsor-v-united-states-2/?wpmp_switcher=desktop" target="_blank">Court</a> heard oral arguments on state and federal provisions prohibiting same-sex marriage, a notable British evangelical <a href="http://www.christianitymagazine.co.uk/sexuality/stevechalke.aspx" target="_blank">revealed his support</a> for monogamous same-sex marriage, and <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/04/02/mark-kirk-becomes-second-gop-senator-to-back-gay-marriage/" target="_blank">two Republican senators</a> announced their support for same sex marriage.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">As if on cue, The Gospel Coalition and a less prominent blog, SBC Voices, published posts (replete with logical fallacies) last week by presumably straight, white, middle-class men that frame conservative evangelicals as persecuted for their belief that being gay is a sin.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Kevin DeYoung's post at The Gospel Coalition, <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2013/04/04/three-more-thoughts-on-the-gay-marriage-debate/" target="_blank">Three More Thoughts on the Gay Marriage Debate</a>, concedes that the turning tide does not necessarily spell disaster for the more conservative wing of evangelical church. However, DeYoung argues:</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">[A]ll the cultural arguments for “tolerating” gay marriage are not-so-thinly veiled arguments against the supposed bigotry of those who hold to a traditional understanding of marriage. What do you think the equal signs all over Facebook mean? They make a <em>moral</em> argument: those who oppose gay marriage are uncivil, unsocial, undemocratic, un-American, and probably inhumane.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">If you believe homosexual behavior is wrong and gay marriage is a contradiction in terms, you are fast becoming, in the public eye, not simply benighted but positively reprehensible, like the last slave owner who refuses to get on the right side of history. I understand that Christians tire of the culture war, but it’s not a battle we started, and if (when?) we lose the debate on homosexuality we will lose much more than the gurus of tolerance let on. </p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Dave Miller's essay at SBC Voices, <a href="http://sbcvoices.com/dealing-with-the-hate-and-intolerance-of-the-left-wing/" target="_blank">Dealing Redemptively with the Hate and Intolerance of the Left</a>, describes conservative evangelicals who believe being gay is a sin as "hated, misrepresented, [and] treated intolerantly".
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<p style="text-align: justify;">It is baffling to me that many conservative evangelicals consider being labeled an intolerant bigot to be on par with the treatment that our LGBT brothers and sisters endure. People -- many of them teenagers -- are killed, beaten, and/or bullied simply because they identify as LGBT. A <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/23/steven-simpson-gay-teen-burned-birthday-_n_2939092.html" target="_blank">gay teen was set on fire</a> and died after sustaining significant burns in 2012. A bullied thirteen-year-old <a href="http://www.chron.com/life/mom-houston/article/Parents-Bullying-drove-Cy-Fair-8th-grader-to-1698827.php" target="_blank">committed suicide</a> in 2010. LGBT youth are <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21502225" target="_blank">significantly more likely</a> to attempt suicide as compared to their straight/cisgender peers.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Conservative evangelicals, your hurt feelings for being called a bigot and for being viewed as reprehensible, your frustration with seeing the "equal" signs on Facebook, and your losses in the so-called culture war are nowhere near the pain inflicted upon many in the LGBT community. It's disingenuous to use terms such as "bigotry" to describe others' treatment of you. It's disingenuous, in the face of <a href="http://www.glaad.org/blog/violence-against-transgender-people-and-people-color-disproportionately-high-lgbtqh-murder-rate" target="_blank">soaring hate-crime statistics</a>, to stomp your feet and claim that <em>you</em> are truly the group who is hated and treated intolerantly. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I don't see conservative evangelicals in the U.S. being set on fire, <a href="http://www.matthewshepard.org/our-story" target="_blank">abducted, and beaten</a> for their belief that being gay is a sin, so please, cool it with the persecution rhetoric.</p>
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        <title>Housekeeping</title>
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        <updated>2013-04-09T08:00:00-05:00</updated>
        <summary>I decided to give the ol' blog a facelift and to no longer use the title "Natalie's Narrative". Also, you can now reach the site via either natalie.typepad.com or natalieburris.com. Enjoy!</summary>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://natalieburris.com/my_weblog/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I decided to give the ol' blog a facelift and to no longer use the title "Natalie's Narrative".  Also, you can now reach the site via either <a href="natalie.typepad.com" target="_self">natalie.typepad.com</a> or <a href="natalieburris.com" target="_self">natalieburris.com</a>. Enjoy!</p><xhtml:img xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NataliesNarrative/~4/jt9vhtU5iTc" height="1" width="1" /></div></content>



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