<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:blogger='http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346</id><updated>2012-04-12T15:32:11.559-07:00</updated><category term="Islam and Modernity"/><category term="Philosophy"/><category term="Series and Sequels"/><category term="Classical Jurisprudence"/><category term="Ilm al Ikhtilaf"/><category term="Land of the Pure"/><category term="Soliloquizing"/><category term="Debates and Disputes"/><category term="Book Reviews"/><category term="Great Books of Islamic Tradition"/><category term="Quran"/><category term="Blogging and Bloggers"/><category term="Orientalists"/><category term="Humor"/><category term="Media"/><title type='text'>Non Skeptical Essays</title><subtitle type='html'>Unless you believe, you will not understand</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default?alt=atom'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default?alt=atom&amp;start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>38</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-4830324192359563040</id><published>2006-10-09T00:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-10-09T00:39:29.610-07:00</updated><title type='text'>***Non Skeptical Essays has moved***</title><content type='html'>assalamu alaykum&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been asked by my friend Abu Muhammad to inform readers of this blog he has moved. He will now be blogging at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://hangingodes.wordpress.com/&quot;&gt;http://hangingodes.wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;So please update your links, blogrolls, feeds etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Abu Muhammad explains more here at his &lt;a href=&quot;http://hangingodes.wordpress.com/2006/10/08/pain-management/&quot;&gt;new blog&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;a href=&quot;http://hangingodes.wordpress.com/2006/10/08/pain-management/&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;The real reason I have shifted my &lt;a href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;old blog&lt;/a&gt; to WordPress is because I am unable to manage the pain and mental agony any longer. My frustration is multiplied as &lt;a href=&quot;http://pakistaniat.com/2006/09/30/pakistan-blogs-ban-censorship/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;access to blogger is not only blocked&lt;/a&gt; (in Pakistan) but users (Pakistani) who have switched to &lt;a href=&quot;http://beta.blogger.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;blogger beta&lt;/a&gt; cannot even log in to their &lt;em&gt;dashboards&lt;/em&gt; anymore. To add insult to the injury, google’s blogger management is showing nothing but &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/blogger-help-troubleshoot/browse_thread/thread/c2298cdcfc3d766d&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;divine unconcern&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I am neither a versatile commentator like &lt;a href=&quot;http://underprogress.blogs.com/weblog/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Thabet&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://eteraz.wordpress.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Eteraz&lt;/a&gt; or  &lt;a href=&quot;http://avari.blogs.com/weblog/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Haroon&lt;/a&gt; nor an ardent and passionate blogger like &lt;a href=&quot;http://shabanamir.com/koonj&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Dr. Shabana Mir&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://akramsrazor.typepad.com/islam_america/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Svend White&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://mozaffar.progressiveislam.org/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Mozaffar&lt;/a&gt;. I am just a reader &lt;a href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/flimsy-incertitude_19.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;who is desperate to make sense of what he reads&lt;/a&gt; and cast off his skepticism through the clarity of expression. I dont write a lot but being completely away from blogging makes me feel as if I am loosing the track of my thoughts and slackening intellectually.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Till the time WordPress updates their tool to import entries from blogger beta, there is no way I am able to bring all the posts and comments from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;old blog&lt;/a&gt;. I’ll soon set up a page here to give a walkthrough of whatever I have written uptill now which is worthy enough to be mentioned.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;So, once again, please &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;update your links, blogrolls, feeds etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;wasalam&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;thabet</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/4830324192359563040/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=4830324192359563040' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/4830324192359563040'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/4830324192359563040'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/10/non-skeptical-essays-has-moved.html' title='&lt;b&gt;***Non Skeptical Essays has moved***&lt;/b&gt;'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-4287165514667182423</id><published>2006-09-28T09:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-27T09:36:10.311-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Land of the Pure"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Soliloquizing"/><title type='text'>Ramadhan 1427H: Culture of Consumption</title><content type='html'>I have pondered a lot and finally concluded the I belong to a &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2005-10/2005-10-05-voa16.cfm?CFID=858544&amp;CFTOKEN=27530183&quot;&gt;culture of consumption&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Try asking a Muslim in Pakistan about the first thing that spontaneously comes to mind about the month of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Ramadhan&lt;/span&gt; and in most of the cases the answer will somehow be related to consumption. The quantity reigns with significance throughout the holy month; may it be variety of food or recitations of Quran. Large hoardings all along the road are persuading people to consider their special &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Iftaar&lt;/span&gt; offers in order to consume maximum food with minimum disbursal of money. The most popular &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Imam&lt;/span&gt; in the vicinity is the one who recites fast and relieves the burden of standing too long in &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Qiyaam&lt;/span&gt;. My friends disagree with me; their contention being that what I am positing with a religious slant is merely a &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;cultural thing&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I stepped back, brooded over and realised that I too have an equal proclivity for consumption like my cultural siblings. As far as fasting is concerned religion has failed to transform this culture of consumption into one of abstinence. It may also mean that the culture has successfully deformed the kernel of revelation producing nothing beyond ritual.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The month of fasting does not bring along a climate conducive for sowing seeds of  &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;taqwa &lt;/span&gt;anymore; it has just become a celebrated festival in our part of the world.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/4287165514667182423/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=4287165514667182423' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/4287165514667182423'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/4287165514667182423'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/09/ramadhan-1427h-culture-of-consumption.html' title='Ramadhan 1427H: Culture of Consumption'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-7884623984851774545</id><published>2006-09-23T18:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-19T19:00:18.887-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Debates and Disputes"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Philosophy"/><title type='text'>Pope should not waste time reading all the people who wrote about Ibn Hazm; he should instead read Ibn Hazm.</title><content type='html'>If &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/15_09_06_pope.pdf&quot;&gt;Pope&#39;s evidence&lt;/a&gt; (the famous 14th century dialogue) to beef up his argument against Islam being a violent religion was fragile, flimsier was this allusion that Islamic teachings defy all the inherent reason in the universe. In fact, his remarks were pathetically blatant lacking sufficient concern for historical reality and an in-depth knowledge of Muslim philosophy. After reading the text of Ratzinger&#39;s speech quite a few times, I am still perplexed regarding the line of his reasoning; namely that faith in an absolutely transcendent God whose acts and will cannot be grasped completely by human reason can possibly lead one to conceive His images which are capricious and may be against all truth and goodness. The argument becomes further ironic as Pope strangely chooses to abduce views of a multifarious &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Hazm&quot;&gt;Muslim writer&lt;/a&gt; who can equally be classified as a quasi-liberal writer/poet, a literal jurist, a controversial philosopher, an innovative grammarian or above all a compassionate ethicist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even scanty readings of &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/hazm/ibnhazm.htm&quot;&gt;Ibn Hazm&lt;/a&gt; would fail to portray him primarily as an absolute fatalist which Joseph Ratzinger was able to do inadvertently for his Christian audience with such an ease. The intuitive reason which Ratzinger calls &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;creative and self communicating&lt;/span&gt; when combined with sound human perception and understanding of language is the first and foremost source of all human knowledge according to Ibn Hazm. It was one of his earliest projects to advocate a sound system of logic so that the revealed word of God can be defended without taking refuge in circular arguments. Times right before his were famous for determining value of logic as a means for attaining absolute truth. There were debates, for instance between Christian logician Abu Bishr Matta bin Yunus and the Muslim philologist Abu Said al Sirafi in early tenth century, resolving controversies whether logic is a form of universal expression or not. Ibn Hazm wrote extensively against the holders of extreme view of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;man tamantaqa tazandaqa&lt;/span&gt; (whoever practices logic practices heresy). In reposnse to his opponents, who objected with the counter-argument that early generations of Muslims did not resort to demonstrative argumentation and proofs rooted firmly in logic, he replied that they witnessed the revelation directly and were not exposed to contrastive beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An alternate undertaking in parallel was to refute the philosophers and theologians who elevated logic to a station where it can be used independantly as a means for attaining truth thereby superceding and replacing revelation. Many consider him as a pioneer in methodological rejection of hellenistic metaphysics of that time which was voiced by many Muslim philosophers with slight shifts in semantics. Here, the Pope is partially right as Ibn Hazm advocates an unbridgeable gap between the Creator and creation. However the underlying aim in Ibn Hazm&#39;s discourse &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight:bold;&quot;&gt;is not to establish that human beings are not responsible for their own actions by being submitted to Divine Will but to define a supreme station for God where there is no room left for speculations.&lt;/span&gt; Ibn Hazm achieves this with ease as he has the revealed word of God to fall back to, and which he uses as a touchstone to establish veracity of any claim regarding His ultimate nature.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ratzinger however speculates erroneously when he hypothesize that Ibn Hazm&#39;s God could have done everything against the truth and virtue. Ibn Hazm does not push his God away &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;in order to grant him more divinity&lt;/span&gt; (as the Pope contends) but asserts that we cannot comprehend fully the particulars of God&#39;s wisdom and will instead remain in need of His favours always. He pits these arguments against some of the &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutazilite&quot;&gt;Mutizilites&lt;/a&gt; who were presumably in favor of basing ethics on human reasoning, even at the cost of statements in the Quran. His often misunderstood contention that God can reward evil and punish good is completely subjective as he never claimed that God in fact does so. His contentions are rooted in a constantly recurring theme that humanity always needs objectively sustainable communication from the Creator as we cannot achieve salvation through reason alone. He and his God calls it the divine mercy and love, on which depends the destiny of all creation; and that is the only &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;real analogy&lt;/span&gt; as far as Ibn Hazm is concerned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ibn Hazm can easily be misunderstood if his different positions are not disentangled carefully. Moreover his various intellectual stances can be put forth as an evidence for contradictory assertions. He tried all his life to bridge gaps between reason and revelation and describe the human condition and thought in relation to revealed word of God. His literature is depictive of human beauty and love of God. According to Ibn Hazm, we constantly need God to reveal us who He is, why He created us and what should we do and what we should not in order to attain His pleasure. It is one of His favors that He gave us the power to reason and contemplate both within our selves and with others. However all human contemplation, cogitation and criticism should take revelation as the starting point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;******&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;On a different note, I completely agree with what &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://underprogress.blogs.com/weblog/&quot;&gt;thabet&lt;/a&gt; has said and do share his feelings. Pope&#39;s speech may have been full of inaccurate assertions and misreadings of Muslim theology (kalam) yet he has asked some challenging question which should be responded satisfactorily by contemporary Muslim scholarship. His major contention is that Islamic weltanschauung incorporates violence as a valid methodology and this world view is theologically rooted in the understanding of God&#39;s nature and character. Why should these questions invoke anger, hate and murder instead of inciting positive and objective confrontation on intellectual fronts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Among 20+ people that I have asked in the past week, none cared to read what Pope has actually said though they were aware that he has said something &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;very wrong&lt;/span&gt;. A Christian member of Pakistan&#39;s parliament who proposed the house to ask clarification from Vatican before passing a unanimous resolution of condemnation was forced to sit in protest. No major or minor newspaper (of Pakistan) took pains to translate and publish the entire speech or even its controversial parts. However none of them failed to make a great news story out of it. Its sad that Muslims of the world seems to be a big rabble lead by the pirates of intellect. Even sadder is the realization that there is still no light at the end of the tunnel.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/7884623984851774545/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=7884623984851774545' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/7884623984851774545'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/7884623984851774545'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/09/pope-should-not-waste-his-time-reading.html' title='Pope should not waste time reading all the people who wrote about Ibn Hazm; he should instead read Ibn Hazm.'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-115790840085027807</id><published>2006-09-13T06:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T11:04:26.313-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Book Reviews"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Great Books of Islamic Tradition"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Philosophy"/><title type='text'>GBIT: Hayy ibn Yaqzan (Alive, Son of Awake)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div id=&quot;docu&quot;&gt;My next choice for &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/05/great-books-of-islamic-tradition.html&quot;&gt;this series&lt;/a&gt; is Hayy ibn Yaqzan by &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Tufail&quot;&gt;Ibn Tufail&lt;/a&gt; - a Spanish Muslim philosopher, physician and scientist from 12th century. &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Ockley&quot;&gt;Simon Ockley&#39;s&lt;/a&gt; translation can be found &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://umcc.ais.org/%7Emaftab/ip/pdf/bktxt/hayy.pdf&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; in pdf. A better and modern translation is by &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.vanderbilt.edu/gradschool/religion/faculty/facultypages/goodman.html&quot;&gt;Lenn Goodman&lt;/a&gt; but it is not available on the internet unfortunately.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Its a story of a boy, the nature of whose existence was shadowy to an extent that there are two completely rivaling accounts of his origins. One account ascribes his origin to spontaneous generation, deducing from intricate details of matter that eventually evolved into life. The other account is necessarily a legend, a human drama in which a royal infant grows up away from society and culture. The boy represents an ideal man with an innate desire to &#39;know&#39;. Being totally isolated from &#39;intelligent&#39; life he gradually becomes morally conscious. He discovers shame, jealousy, aspiration, desire, eagerness to possess and practical reasoning with time and as his doe foster mother gets old, he learns to love and realises death as she dies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Its an extended (but not tediously protracted) philosophical narrative, encompassing all forms of knowledge and discovery. To know is necessarily an obligation for Hayy ibn Yaqzan. He desperately seeks to understand his being in time and locate his space in cosmos. His search guides him through various disciplines of knowledge; for instance anatomy, physiology, metaphysics and spirituality. Discovering the unity of cosmos and its boundedness through reasoning, he discovers God and through his self imposed [quasi]ascetic &#39;code of conduct&#39; he finds a way of his salvation and felicitousness. At the age of 35, when he had not communicated with anyone except himself, he meets Absal; an anchorite refugee from a land of coventional &#39;true believers&#39;. Absal is a perfect model of a religious man, a zealot who has learnt many langauges to gain mastery of scriptural exegesis. His first reaction is a deep sense of fear for his faith as he encounters an exotic being i.e. Hayy. But his fears are dropped soon as he comes to know that Hayy do not have a clue of any langauge. In good faith he tries to teach him to speak and communicate in order to make him aware of knowledge and religion. However he soon discovers that Hayy is already aware of the &#39;truth&#39;; to envision which, his own (Absal&#39;s) intellect bears nothing except revealed symbols.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hayy formally proselytizes judging Absal&#39;s good intentions and the veracity of his message and as the duo associate with one another, Absal introduces Hayy to his culture and people. As Hayy gets familiarised with this civilisation, two basic questions continue to puzzle him in great deal. Firstly, &quot;Why people must need symbols to assimilate and express the knowledge of the Divine?&quot; and continue understanding matters of Divine world literally. Secondly, being completely oblivious to ritualistic sense, he continues to wonder why there is an obligation to indulge one&#39;s self in rituals of prayer and purity. Though he never regrets submitting himself (in good faith) he kept on wondering why people of this &#39;religion&#39; consume more than their body needs, possess and nurture property diligently, neglect truth by purposefully indulging in passtimes and fall an easy prey to their desires. He finally decides to accompany Absal to his land, thinking that it might be through him that people encompass the true vision and &#39;realize&#39; truth rather than &#39;believing&#39; it with their seemigly narrow kens.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What follows is a tale of a neophyte philosopher teaching people to get above their literalism and open another eye towards reality. His audience on the other hand, recoil in their apprehensions and being intellectual slaves to their prejudices close their ears. He consequently realises that these people are unable to go beyond their usual appetites and proclivities. He also grasps that masses of the world are only capable to recieve through symbols and regulatory laws rather than being receptive to unstained and plain truth. Both men return back to their isolated world but this time Hayy as the teacher and Absal as his disciple. They continue searching their ecstasies until they met their ends.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Besides being a surpassingly great philosophical romance, its a unique story told by a philosopher who characterised himself as an autodidact. It was a fictional thought experiment to bridge gaps between reason and revelation, struggling to make it known that rejecting any of theses would mean rejecting a part of truth and trying to laydown a perpetually self evolving construct where reason is necessarily the &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;caliph&lt;/span&gt; of revelation. It is a must read for all the times and a tradition that should always be kept alive.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/115790840085027807/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=115790840085027807' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/115790840085027807'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/115790840085027807'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/09/gbit-alive-son-of-awake-hayy-ibn.html' title='GBIT: Hayy ibn Yaqzan (Alive, Son of Awake)'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-115722377180124272</id><published>2006-09-02T11:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-09-02T12:12:12.186-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Ilm al Ikhtilaf"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Quran"/><title type='text'>Is Quran a simple and straightforward document?</title><content type='html'>To say that Quranic language is completely devoid of any lexical ambiguities may lead one to infer that atleast one interpretation can be claimed as universal. This would be a rendering which in principle can be accepted as absolutely monolithic if correct analytical tools are agreed upon by all. The argument can be extended to contend that one can reach the &#39;true&#39; purport of an &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;ayah&lt;/span&gt; primarily through literary methods. Ruminating whether one can be sure to discover this original intent and limning methods to substantiate authenticity of any such discovery is not my present objective. I just want to assert in this entry that Quranic language is partially polysemous and its not a very straightforward document to interact with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This characteristic embedded in the very design of Arabic language should not be confused with two seemingly contradictory facts emanating from the Quran itself. One, that &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/11/11_1.htm&quot;&gt;Its a perspicuous Book with clear verses of established meaning&lt;/a&gt; and two, that &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/3/3_7.htm&quot;&gt;It contains firm (&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Muhkamaat&lt;/span&gt;) and ambiguous (&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Mutashabihaat&lt;/span&gt;) verses&lt;/a&gt;. Shah Wali Ullah presents an exposition of both these claims in &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://onlineislamicstore.com/b4508.html&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;al-Fauz al-Kabir fi Usual al-Tafsir&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. He lucubrates that when Almightly says in Quran that its a clear book revealed in Arbic proper with unambiguous and clear verses,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;the intention is to avoid going deep into the interpretation of allegorical verses, in drawing the picture of realities of God&#39;s attributes, in determining the doubtful and in the narration of stories in minuteness&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;On the other hand firm vesres are those from which the masters of speech (&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;ahle lughat&lt;/span&gt;) can take only one meaning while ambiguous are those which admit duality in meanings. An example of this are words employed which are common to two meanings for instance &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/4/4_43.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;lamas[tum]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, which means both the sexual intercourse and as well as touching with hand. Another case is when there happens to be a possibility of both the copulative conjunction and commencement of new sentence; for instance the verse &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/3/3_7.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Wa ma Yala&#39;m Tawilahu Illalah wa al-Raasikhun fil Ilm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Intersetingly, the import of Shah Wali Ullah&#39;s explanation implies that the verse of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Mukam&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Mutashabih&lt;/span&gt; ayahs is itself abstruse and ambiguous to some degree. There are of course various other reasons, for instance different figures of speeches causing obscurities in text. Works on the language of Quran are full of such discussion and would perhaps move me later to dedicate a complete post. The present concern, as I have mentioned above, is regarding various interpretations of seemingly firm and unequivocal portions of Quranic text.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It has reached through various reports that even Prophet&#39;s companions sometimes understood various verses differently. Anas narrates that Umar, while addressing from pulpit, mentioned &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/80/80_31.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;fakihaatin wa abba&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt; (fruits and fodder)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and said that we understand &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;fakiha&lt;/span&gt; but it is very difficult to say what is &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;ab&#39;ba&lt;/span&gt;. Ibn Abbas narrates that he did not know about the meaning of &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/35/35_1.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;faatiris samawat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; till two bedouins came to him with a dispute, giving him an indirect clue what that phrase might have meant. Suyyuti includes long lists of words and phrases with their meanings narrated from Dhahak and Ibn Abbas. Knowledge of connotations associated with different words is also necessary to help eliminate the &#39;wrong&#39; interpretation. An important question is regarding the basis to know whether a particular connotation understood by the interpreter was originally intended or not. A valid example is Ibn Abbas&#39; (who is one of the major source of classical exegetes) inclusion of music while explaining phrases like &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/31/31_6.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;lahw al-Hadith&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/53/53_61.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;wa antum Saamiddoon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What then do we mean by agreed upon universals of language? What we must know in order to determine the reference of an expression? Is it legitimate to disregard and discard agreed upon historical interpretations using tools of linguistic and literary criticism only? Isn&#39;t it true that what we choose to eliminate also has valid basis in language though not always in historical context of revelation? What is the correct priority of sources of understanding Quran? What comes first in Quranic hermeneutics - knowledge of language, tribal dialects and &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;jahilia&lt;/span&gt; poetry or Hadith, context of revelation and understanding of Companions and their students? Is it a valid assertion that understanding of Quran would always remain evolving and there would always be room for new interpretations?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact that answer to these questions are multifarious and sometimes extremely complicated implies that Quran by itself is not a very straightforward document. Or perhaps it is more accurate to say (in the words of Fazlur Rahman) that &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Quran is as &#39;straightforward&#39; and as organically coherent as life itself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/115722377180124272/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=115722377180124272' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/115722377180124272'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/115722377180124272'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/09/is-quran-simple-and-straightforward.html' title='Is Quran a simple and straightforward document?'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-115554705661612567</id><published>2006-08-14T20:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-08-14T02:40:31.590-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Land of the Pure"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Soliloquizing"/><title type='text'>Independance! Really?</title><content type='html'>It felt uneasy in my stomach when I got up this morning. The overwhelming contentment which I used to have 20 years ago as a child was not there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am still struggling intellectually on both fronts. Past and Present.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My frequent visits to history are making it further obscure. The constant search of ideology keeps me dangling between the likes of &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0521458501/104-2997118-8865527?v=glance&amp;n=283155&quot;&gt;Ayesha Jalal&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhtar_Masood&quot;&gt;Mukhtar Masood&lt;/a&gt;. Knowing is afflictive if you have no clue how to deconstruct.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Present is not animating either. As Ayaz Amir puts it, &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/20060707.htm&quot;&gt;these are not very proud days to be a Pakistani&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And if all this was not enough, it was  advised not to visit public places on 14th as it is not &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;safe&lt;/span&gt; out there. We are not as  grievously affected as &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.faiz.com/&quot;&gt;Faiz&lt;/a&gt; when he wrote this; but most of it is still valid:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div id=&quot;docu&quot;&gt; &lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;     Nisar mein teri galion peh ai watan, keh jahan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                      Chali hai rasm keh koi na sar utha keh chale&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                        Jo koi chahane wala tawaaf ko nikle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                   Nazar chura keh chale, Jismo-jan bacha keh chale&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                   Hai ahl-e-dil ke liye ab yeh nazm-e-bast-o-kushaad&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                    Keh sang-o-khisht muqayyad hain aur sag aazad&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                     Bahut hain zulm keh dast-e-bahana-ju keh liye&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                      Jo chund ahl-e-junoon tere naam leva hain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                    Baney hain ahl-e-hawas muddai bhi, munsif bhi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                       Kisey wakil karein, kis sey munsifi chahen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                     Magar Guzaarane walon ke din guzarate hain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                    Tere firaq mein yun subh-o-shaam kartey hain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                    Bujha jo rozan-e-zindan to dil yeh samjha hai&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                        Keh teri maang sitaron se bhar gai hogi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                      Chamak uthe hain salasil to humne jaana hai&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                      Keh ab sahar tere rukh par bikhar gai hogi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                     Gharaz tasawwur-e-shaam-o-sahar mein jeete hai&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                     Giraft-e-saaya-e-diwaar-o-dar mein jeete hain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                     Yuhin hamesha ulajhti rahi hai zulm se khalq&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                        Na unki rasm nai hai, na apni reet nai&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                   Yuhin hamesha khilaye hain humne aag mein phool&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                        Na unki haar nai hai, na apni jeet nai&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                        Isi sabab se falak ka gilaa nahin karate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                      Tere firaq mein hum dil bura nahin karate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                     Gar aaj tujhse juda hain to kal baham hongey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                        Yeh raat bhar ki judai to koi baat nahin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                        Gar aaj auj peh hai taal&#39;a-e-raqeeb to kya&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                       Yeh chaar din ki khudai to koi baat nahin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                      Jo tujhse ahd-o-wafa ustuvaar rakhtey hain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;                       Ilaaj-e-gardishe lailo-nihaar rakhate hain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One year from now, probably in the midst of another discontented summer, I have to start narrating my boys the story of Pakistan. I know they would hear with interest and believe all of it just like I believed it when it was first narrated to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I make a resolve to myself this August. I would not pass on this story as it was recounted to me. I would just give them enough to ask new questions. I would take them to the past and let them unfold it all their lives. This might be a first firm step towards disenchantment and collective contentment of the present.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Long live Pakistan.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/115554705661612567/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=115554705661612567' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/115554705661612567'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/115554705661612567'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/08/independance-really.html' title='Independance! Really?'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-115002007622602910</id><published>2006-07-08T02:18:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-07-10T04:35:14.863-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Book Reviews"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Great Books of Islamic Tradition"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Quran"/><title type='text'>GBIT: al-Ittiqan fi Ulum al-Quran</title><content type='html'>&lt;div id=&quot;docu&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot;&gt;GBIT is a signifier for Great Books of Islamic Tradition, a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/05/great-books-of-islamic-tradition.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot;&gt;series&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot;&gt; which starts with this post. I would not be doing the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/03/book-review-life-and-work-of.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot;&gt;formal review&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot;&gt; and would rather like it to be a quickly readable introduction to the work.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fadakbooks.com/alfiulal3.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6052/itqan35vt.jpg&quot; align=&quot;left&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suyuti&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Jalal al-Din Abd al-Rahman bin Abu Bakr al-Suyuti&lt;/a&gt; (1445 - 1505) was a Shafii jurist and achieved the repute of a &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hafiz&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;muhaddith&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Flugel&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Gustav Flugel&lt;/a&gt; lists 561 works attributed to Jalaluddin al-Suyuti ranging from tomes of hundreds of pages to pamphlets and small treatises. Suyuti is exceptional in encompassing most of the preceding sources into his works. He penned no less than 8 works on different aspects of Quran and co-authored &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.albalagh.net/bookstore/?action=view&amp;item=0736&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;one of the widely taught exegesis&lt;/a&gt; with his teacher Jalaluddin al-Mahalli.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajji_Khalifa&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Hajji Khalifa&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fadakbooks.com/alfiulal3.html&quot;&gt;al-Ittiqan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; is actually an expansion of &lt;em&gt;al-Takhbir fi Ulum al-Tafsir&lt;/em&gt; which was written by Suyuti as an introduction to &lt;em&gt;Majma al-Bahrayn wa Matla&#39;al-Badrayn&lt;/em&gt; - a voluminous commentary which is refered in many other works by the author but could not be traced so as to establish whether the author was able to complete it or not. In the process of revising and enlarging &lt;em&gt;al-Takhbir&lt;/em&gt;, Suyuti made use of Balqini&#39;s &lt;em&gt;Mawaqi&#39;al Ulum &lt;/em&gt;and Zarkashi&#39;s &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fadakbooks.com/alfiulal4.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;al-Burhan fi Ulum al-Quran&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://fadakbooks.com/alfiulal3.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Al-Ittiqan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; is extremely elaborate in its width and gives a detailed exposition of 80 different fields concerning the reading, writing and understanding of Quran. This includes not only the disciplines derived from holy Quran but also the principles which facilitate this derivation. While introducing all these disciplines in the introductory chapter, Suyuti writes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;These 80 categories are chosen so as to include various branches of knowledge that are interrelated and if each of these branches were dealt with seperately, there would have been more than 300 disciplines. There are seperate books on many of these areas of study and I have read most of them. The books which are written on similar lines as my book are very few but these do not come close to the width of subjects that I have expounded upon here.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Besides covering usual disciplines like a count of Huruf and &lt;em&gt;Kalima&#39;at&lt;/em&gt;, history of compilation and organisation, reasons and places of revelation, &lt;em&gt;Nasikh&lt;/em&gt; &amp; &lt;em&gt;Mansukh &lt;/em&gt;(abrogation), &lt;em&gt;Tajwid&lt;/em&gt; (rules of recitation), &lt;em&gt;lughat &lt;/em&gt;(lexical analysis), names of reciters &amp;amp; memorisers, principles of exegesis and grades of exegetes, the book contains some really unique dimensions of approaching the Quran. I am inclined to list few of these unusual ways of exploration. These are:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Parts of Quran which were &lt;em&gt;exposed&lt;/em&gt; through the tongue of Companions.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chapters of Quran which were revealed with an accompanied group of angels.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Parts of Quran which were also revealed to previous Messengers.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Non Arabic words in Quran and differences of opinion regarding the contention itself.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Branches of knowledge which were derived from Quran.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Quranic oaths.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dialogues in Quran.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ambiguities in Quran.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Etiquettes of writing Quran.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;This book is not meant to be read from cover to cover in few sessions. Its more of a researcher&#39;s companion - one of the oldest and most elaborate reference of studying or accessing holy Quran. Its greatness does not lie in its profoundness and depth but the extremity of breadth and the surpassing comprehensiveness with which the author establishes the richness of the greatest book on earth.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/115002007622602910/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=115002007622602910' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/115002007622602910'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/115002007622602910'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/07/gbit-al-ittiqan-fi-ulum-al-quran.html' title='GBIT: al-Ittiqan fi Ulum al-Quran'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-115042666803923562</id><published>2006-06-15T19:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-06-16T10:50:11.953-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Debates and Disputes"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Islam and Modernity"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Land of the Pure"/><title type='text'>Reviewing the Debate on Hudood Ordinance</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot; id=&quot;docu&quot;&gt;If the premise was that &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudood_Ordinance&quot;&gt;Hudood Ordinance&lt;/a&gt; is problematic, the &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/06/grand-debate-on-hudood-ordinance.html&quot;&gt;debate&lt;/a&gt; was a non sequitur. But it doesn&#39;t come as a great surprise because debates and discussions are never the usual movers towards reaching conclusions in Pakistan. However this debate was not irksome like the most of the rest which we compulsively witness everyday on tv in search of a tinge of wisdom.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6438/ghamidi6zk.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;51&quot; /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8481/tufail6kv.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;51&quot; /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/729/muneeb8cd.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;51&quot; /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/7550/abdulmalik6as.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Javed Ahmed Ghamidi and Dr Muhammad Tufail Hashmi were teamed up to object the ordinance and its implementation and Mufti Muneeb ul Rahman and Maulana Abdul Malik were there to defend it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;The Initial Remarks:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;Dr Hashmi and Mufti Muneeb were alloted 5 minutes each to make their respectives stands clear to the house. The first speaker Dr Hashmi said that the contentions of ordinance being within the injunctions of Quran and Sunnah are grossly erroneous. 81 out of its 101 clauses are not related in any way to Quran and Sunnah. These procedural clauses are subject to change by judiciary and legislature any time. The rest which are presented as &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hudud&lt;/span&gt; have been incoherently picked up from Quran &amp; Sunnah without reflecting upon the nature of crime and criminal. As a result hundreds of women were kept in jails for years waiting for &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hadd&lt;/span&gt; to be implemented. There is a deterioration in the state of law and order as enactment of the law itself gives loopholes to misuse it. The resentment compiled over years ultimately led different groups of society to talk against the Islamic law in general.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rather than commenting on the ordinance, Mufti Muneeb began with a protest (in his alloted time) that hearts of the people of Pakistan are deeply attached with Islam. Since no one can talk openly against the &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hudud&lt;/span&gt; due to fear of inviting strong criticism from people, they are actually trying to get the complete ordinance repealed. It is similar how many people who want to criticise Islam end up criticising the &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;maulvi&lt;/span&gt;. There wont be any new revelation delineating the procedures for implementation of punishments. Experts can only comment on the errors in implementation but complete ordinance cannot be revoked. He rejected it as a propaganda that women were mistreated using the ordinance per se. He confirmed the juristic ruling that women should not be put in jails and said that &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;taazira&#39;at&lt;/span&gt; in the ordinance should be removed and made part of the &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_Code_of_Pakistan&quot;&gt;Pakistan Penal Code&lt;/a&gt; instead. Rather than discussing the ambiguities related to &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;zina bil raza &lt;/span&gt;(adultery) and &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;zina bil jabr&lt;/span&gt; (rape) in ordinance he irrelevantly went into history of Islamic law and gave an example or two that both crimes were differentiated by Islamic jurists throughout history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;In my view, Dr Hashmi&#39;s presentation was accurate enough keeping in view the scarcity of time. His main points can be understood further in the light of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_31-12-2004_pg7_20&quot;&gt;his book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;. I dont want to be accused of pleonasm in trying to prove the absurdity of Mufti Muneeb&#39;s method of argument. As I have already said in the start, it was not a classical argument in favor of the ordinance - it was just an irrelevance indulgence into emotionalism.&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Role of Police in Implementing the Ordinance:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A movie was played showing women who were in jails since three years (and more) without evidence. The recent case proceedings of Aruna and Muazzam Ali (who were present on the occassion) were also shown. In response to moderators&#39; questions Aruna replied that both of them (she and her husband Muazzam) were caught by the police after an FIR was launched under hudud ordinance by her parents who said that Muazzam has kidnapped their daughter. In the courtroom magistrate didn&#39;t pay heed to whatever she said and kept looking at her father. The overall response of judiciary was pathetic and she thought about requesting the mainstream &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;ulema&lt;/span&gt; to help her.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In response to a question regarding how to resolve complications arising due to false FIRs, Maulana Abdul Malik said that police should never chase the adulterers at first place. Totally disregarding that an ambiguous ordinance adds to the complications, he put the entire blame on the system of police reminding the house that its a British system. Making this comment further absurd, he added that police should be well versant with Quran and Sunnah [&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;thereby agreeing, though he would be unaware of this subtlety, that requisite awareness about any law may be a prerequisite of its application&lt;/span&gt;]. Mufti Muneeb said that Anglo-Saxon law equates FIR with a &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;nass&lt;/span&gt; (reasoning from a known injunction - a valid &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;shari&#39;i&lt;/span&gt; evidence).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In response to another question whether police should record the FIR for adultery at all, Dr Hashmi said that police has no role in cases of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;zina bil raza&lt;/span&gt;. Javed Ghamidi said that police should demand four witnesses before recording the FIR and Quran is clear on this. That was perhaps the only point in the complete debate where all the panelists agreed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;The Issue of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Qadhaf&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point of concern before the house was that &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;qadhaf&lt;/span&gt; (punishment for slander) in &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/legislation/zia_po_1979/ord7_1979.html&quot;&gt;Zina Ordinance&lt;/a&gt; cannot be exercised unless the case is re-prosecuted. That was perhaps the best part in the complete debate in terms of mirthfulness as well as deep frustration. I present this diatribe here from my notes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Abdul Malik:&lt;/span&gt; No seperate legislation should be done for &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;qadhaf&lt;/span&gt;. Prophet (pbuh) applied &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;qadhaf&lt;/span&gt; as well as &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hadd&lt;/span&gt; in cases of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;zina&lt;/span&gt;. Judge is a legislator as well as an implementer of law.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Mufti Muneeb:&lt;/span&gt; It is necessary that people like Aruna should come to judge and ask for their &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;qisaas&lt;/span&gt; (retaliation) because &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;qadhaf&lt;/span&gt; is a kind of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;qisaas&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Javed Ghamidi:&lt;/span&gt; No. It may not be necessary that women should come to judge as this is against their honor according to norms of our society. In addition to that its an issue of procedural law and there is nothing in Quran and Sunnah which can be used to establish that women should come to judge demanding &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hadd-e-qadhaf&lt;/span&gt; to be implemented on one who has blamed them falsely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Tufail Hashmi:&lt;/span&gt; The complete ordinance of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;qadhaf&lt;/span&gt; is ambiguous. Did Ayesha (r) formally demanded the &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hadd-e-qadhaf&lt;/span&gt;. The case of Mughira bin Shu&#39;ba (r) is another example when &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hadd-e-qadhaf&lt;/span&gt; was implemented automatically.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Javed Ghamidi:&lt;/span&gt; The court has all the right to exercise &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hadd-e-qadhaf&lt;/span&gt; without a formal petition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Mufti Muneeb asks Javed Ghamidi:&lt;/span&gt; How can court send forces to identify people who are falsely blaming others?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Javed Ghamidi:&lt;/span&gt; I am talking about a specific case which is already in court and it has been proved that accuser was wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Abdul Malik:&lt;/span&gt; Ideally a judge should be a &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;mujtahid &lt;/span&gt;(an independant jurist) in limited capacity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Javed Ghamidi:&lt;/span&gt; I have been stating categorically since few years now that either the requisite amendments should be made in the ordinance or the complete ordinance should be repealed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Abdul Malik [&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;outbursts&lt;/span&gt;]:&lt;/span&gt; He [&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;while poiniting towards Ghamidi&lt;/span&gt;] is actually opining that &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hudud&lt;/span&gt; Allah should be repealed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Javed Ghamidi:&lt;/span&gt; I have no doubt that implementation of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hudud&lt;/span&gt; Allah is obligatory but the ordinance under discussion is made according to human understanding and can be repealed or amended.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Abdul Malik [shouts]:&lt;/span&gt; This is a conspiracy against &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hudud&lt;/span&gt; of Allah and we would never let it happen in this country.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;After that moderators intervened and sought clarification from Javed Ghamidi who re-clarified his already clarified stance which had been grasped by everyone viewing the debate except the two opposing panelists.&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Does &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Zina bil Jabr&lt;/span&gt; Invoke Hadd?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Speaking first, Javed Ahmed Ghamidi said that &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;zina bi jabr&lt;/span&gt; should be dealt with under the law of hiraabah (maleficence in land) as expounded by verse &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html&quot;&gt;5:33&lt;/a&gt;. He explained that rape is a multiple crime involving adultery as well as harassment and molestation and Prophet (pbuh) himself defferentiated between both on number of occassions. Dr Hashmi said that evidence in cases of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;zina&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;zina bil jabr&lt;/span&gt; are different. The ayah that noble women should come out of their houses covered was specifically revealed so that they should not be a subject of sexual harrassment. He gave examples of Maliki Jurists like Qadi Iya&#39;d and Qadi Ibn Arabi (the jurist and not the sufi) who believed that rape should be dealt with under the law of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hiraabah&lt;/span&gt;. Mufti Muneeb disagreed and said that &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;zina bil jabr&lt;/span&gt; if proved invokes rajm (stonning to death). Abdul Malik said that there is no need to do &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;ijtihad&lt;/span&gt; when Quran is clear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Amendments Proposed by Panelists:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mufti Muneeb suggested that all the procedural clauses and punsihments which are not &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hudud&lt;/span&gt; (therefore &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;taaziraat&lt;/span&gt;) should be excluded from the ordinance and made part of PPC and a &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;qadi&lt;/span&gt; who is also a qualified jurist should be included in the system. There is no question of repealing the complete law. Maulana Abdul Malik said that he agrees with Mufti Muneeb and gave another emotive political statement (which has now become a trademark of MMA) that no disguised conspiracy against Hudud would be tolerated. He reiterated that police and judges should be trained according to Islam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Javed Ghamidi quickly presented five of his &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.al-mawrid.org/Content/ViewArticle.aspx?articleId=96&quot;&gt;main objections&lt;/a&gt; against the ordinance. These are:&lt;br /&gt;1. Adultery should be explicitly differentiated with rape not only in terms of definition (which it does now) but in terms of procedural methods and their implementation.&lt;br /&gt;2. The ordinance in its current form applies punishment according to the degree of evidence. It should be recodified to invoke punishment on presence or absense of punishment.&lt;br /&gt;3. There should be no gender discrimination in the application of ordinance.&lt;br /&gt;4. Cases of rape should be dealt with according to law of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hiraabah&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;5. Appropriate clauses should be added to the ordinance to explicate the degree of doubt that can be given for the benefit of the accused.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr Hashmi while agreeing with Ghamidi said that any new law should not be projected as a law of Allah so that there will always remain the room for improvement and change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Viewing the debate was another very frustrating experiencing for me. Not because the lack of objective scholasticism on part of panelists in favour of the ordinance but lack of sense in people of media regarding how to conduct and organise such debates. First of all the title &quot;Grand Debate on Hudood Ordinance&quot; was a misnomer as the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/legislation/zia_po_1979/ord7_1979.html&quot;&gt;Ordinance of Zina&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt; was the actual topic of discussion. Not even a brief summary of the agenda was presented to educate the panelists as well as audience to avoid repetitive digression. The choice of hosts was also confusing as both were journalists specialised in political and social issues rather than discussing conflicting religious interpretations. As a result it was more of an informal discussion based on conventional wisdom rather than sources of religion and law. I still fail to find the reason why a person like Maulana Abdul Malik was invited as a panelist who just kept on nodding his head in favour of whatever Mufti Muneeb uttered. Not to mention his funny and caustic remarks against panelists on other side.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;The only good that can come out of such debates is the exposure of actual depth of scholarship of mainstream ulema who have more excess to people due to their politicised and emotive slogans. The in-depth scholarship is not popular enough to come out of the books and reach streets even in cases where lines of religious interpretation and social reforms crisscross. This was a indeed a good platform for people to get acquainted with faces representing religion on a different intellectual plane and for a different cause than meeting twice a year for sighting moons.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;tag-file&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/115042666803923562/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=115042666803923562' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/115042666803923562'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/115042666803923562'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/06/reviewing-debate-on-hudood-ordinance.html' title='Reviewing the Debate on Hudood Ordinance'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114990291864177074</id><published>2006-06-09T18:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-06-09T19:24:11.606-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Debates and Disputes"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Land of the Pure"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Media"/><title type='text'>Grand Debate on Hudood Ordinance</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://xgen.vitalstream.com/mcasx.asx?media=1993849&amp;package=1848497&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8918/zsgreatdebate1wc.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;215&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.geo.tv/zs/default.asp&quot;&gt;Zara Sochieye (think for a moment)&lt;/a&gt; is a series of debates/discussions on various conflicts within Pakistani society arising due to contradicting interpretations. Here is an excerpt of the ad from &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.geo.tv/&quot;&gt;Geo TV&lt;/a&gt; website:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;The &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/legislation/zia_po_1979/ord7_1979.html&quot;&gt;Hudood Ordinance&lt;/a&gt; was enforced in 1979 during the rule of Gen. Zia ul Haq. Since its inception there has been a great debate on the Hudood laws – a debate that has involved people belonging to all walks of life – religious scholars, lawyers and human rights activists. The debate continues, without any resolution, till this day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;GEO aims to bridge the gaps that have been created within the Pakistani society and bring people together to the same platform to discuss matters with knowledge, tolerance and integrity. GEO will focus its programming and discussion on the most controversial law within the Hudood, which is the Zina Ordinance. There is one group of people who believe that the injunctions within the Ordinance are in accordance with the Quran and Sunnah. There is another group that believes that the Hudood Ordinance is man made which has lead to a misrepresentation of Islam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;The &lt;a href=&quot;http://xgen.vitalstream.com/mcasx.asx?media=1993849&amp;amp;package=1848497&quot;&gt;current debate&lt;/a&gt; (which will be in Urdu) primarily features &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.ghamidi.org/&quot;&gt;Javed Ahmed Ghamidi&lt;/a&gt; and Mufti Muneeb ul Rahman (a mainstream &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barelwi&quot;&gt;barelwi&lt;/a&gt; scholar from Pakistan). There are few other speakers also and a considerable portion of time is alloted to views/grievances of audience which are mainly lawyers and feminist activists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope it will be aired on &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.geo.tv/usa/&quot;&gt;Geo US&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.geo.tv/uk/&quot;&gt;Geo UK&lt;/a&gt; as well. Please confirm local TV schedules.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114990291864177074/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114990291864177074' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114990291864177074'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114990291864177074'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/06/grand-debate-on-hudood-ordinance.html' title='Grand Debate on Hudood Ordinance'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114970693481337419</id><published>2006-06-07T10:49:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2006-06-07T19:28:49.110-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Humor"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Islam and Modernity"/><title type='text'>&#39;Halal&#39; Biros</title><content type='html'>&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;&quot; src=&quot;http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/3623/picasso30hu.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; Is it competitive advantage on the cost of insinuating inadvertently what is not Islam?&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114970693481337419/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114970693481337419' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114970693481337419'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114970693481337419'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/06/halal-biros_07.html' title='&#39;Halal&#39; Biros'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114939671971919000</id><published>2006-06-03T20:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-06-06T08:20:19.510-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Classical Jurisprudence"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Ilm al Ikhtilaf"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Series and Sequels"/><title type='text'>Amal-e-Ahle Madina (3) - Imam Shafii&#39;s Criticism</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot; id=&quot;docu&quot;&gt;If Imam Shafii&#39;s charge on the Medinese school has to be expressed with just one word, it would perhaps be &#39;arbitrariness&#39; or more precisely, &#39;inconsistency&#39;. However the aim at present is not to ruminate over the entire significance of his criticism but just the aspect of relying over &#39;practice&#39; rather than &#39;traditions&#39;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shafii&#39;s case against Madinese is multidimensional and perhaps the most misunderstood partly because of its complexity and partly because he was the pioneer in laying down the foundations of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usul_al-fiqh&quot;&gt;Usul al-Fiqh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;. The latter though seemingly subtle is most telling because the reference to the problems of Usul (methodology) in his predecessors&#39; writings are occassional and peripheral as opposed to the thoroughgoing discussions that he has produced in his writings. The study of critcism directed at this alleged &lt;i&gt;lack of method&lt;/i&gt; is apt to impair our vision unless we disentangle the different dimensions and set them against what is percieved as Medinese school in Shafii&#39;s time. Only in this manner we might be able to visualise the lack of methodology in Medinese schools as a methodology itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have already presented this beauteous simplicity of method in &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/03/amal-e-ahle-madina-1-imam-maliks.html&quot;&gt;words of Malik&lt;/a&gt; and an equally &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/amal-e-ahle-madina-2-argument-against.html&quot;&gt;uncomplicated riposte&lt;/a&gt; by a worthy contemporary. Its important to understand that Shafii&#39;s criticism against the principle of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;amal-e-ahle Madina&lt;/span&gt; (practice of Madinites) is not against the practice of Madinites per se (which will obviously be understood as an intrinsic disapproval of practice if seen in the light of an equally important and strong case in favor of Hadith &lt;span style=&quot;font-size:78%;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;) but against arbitrariness and inconsistency of approach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my opinion, major part of Shafii&#39;s criticism against the practice of Madinites (as source of legal doctrine) should be seen in the light of his discussions of definition and validity of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Ijmaa&lt;/span&gt; (juridical consensus) as a source of various rulings of &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2005/10/concise-definition-of-fiqh.html&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Fiqh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. However the times when this criticism should be seen as strengthening the case of Hadith is when Malikis prefer practice over &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Khabr-e-Ahad&lt;/span&gt; (a solitary hadith) and they always do so when both sources lead to diametrical conclusions. Keeping the discussion in the perimeters of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Ijmaa&lt;/span&gt;, Shafii is found presenting his case repeatedly on two lines of reasoning. First and foremost is that a valid &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Ijmaa&lt;/span&gt; does not derive its cogency from the consensus of jurists of one region (Madina in this case) but becomes binding only if jurists of all the regions do agree about a ruling. Secondly, there are scholars from Madina disagreeing with the rulings regarding which Madinese bring the claim of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Ijmaa&lt;/span&gt; as an evidence. This is the same &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/amal-e-ahle-madina-2-argument-against.html&quot;&gt;line of reasoning&lt;/a&gt; which was used by Laith ibn Saad previously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even extending the discussion inside the realms of Hadith, it cannot remain uninvolved with the intricacies of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Ijmaa&lt;/span&gt;. This is because Madinites according to Shafii cannot bring anything as a proof even when they are opining against an &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;ahad&lt;/span&gt; hadith (a solitary tradition from Prophet) except a claim of consensus or a practice of some companion. On the other hand he brings argument after argument with amazing consistency to project their lack of method in deriving various rulings. Shafii&#39;s critique is objective as his aim is not to bring about arguments in support of right doctrine but to lay down the right doctrine itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pursuing the same aim, his predecessors (and especially Malik in this case) refered informally to variety of sources. Their attitudes were characterised by trust in respective doctrines whom they acknowledge as their authorities. For instance the doctrines of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Ahl al-Raa&#39;y&lt;/span&gt; (the people of opinion) and &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Ahl al-Hadith&lt;/span&gt; (the people of tradition). In Malik&#39;s case this trust was specifically derived from the sacredness and continuity of &#39;practices&#39; that constituted the Islamic way of life. As long as this trust remain unchallenged, no formal touchstones were required to test against and choose the particular source among many which ought to be made the basis of some legal ruling. However by the time of Shafii the scientific criticism on Hadith reached at a particular stage of development where it was not difficult for Shafii to insist about some overriding authority superceding all the other sources except Quran.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore on the one hand subjective factors like intuitive conviction, commonsense, gumption and gut feeling about the veracity of a particular source were considered inconsistencies and arbitrary methods by Shafii. On the other hand agreed upon practice of a particular region, traditions from companions and all the claims of consensus were considered overridden in principle by traditions (in case of conflicts) which can be authentically traced back to the mouth of Prophet.&lt;br /&gt;_________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;1. As seen by Shacht for instance in his &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1597401188?v=glance&quot;&gt;Origins of Muhammadan Jurisprudence&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114939671971919000/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114939671971919000' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114939671971919000'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114939671971919000'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/06/amal-e-ahle-madina-3-imam-shafiis.html' title='Amal-e-Ahle Madina (3) - Imam Shafii&#39;s Criticism'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114826335510047971</id><published>2006-05-23T18:12:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-05-22T21:54:24.053-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Debates and Disputes"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Islam and Modernity"/><title type='text'>Whosoever changes his religion, kill him!</title><content type='html'>In a recently televised discussion, &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javed_Ahmad_Ghamidi&quot;&gt;Javed Ahmed Ghamidi&lt;/a&gt; has clarified that his reliance on the principle of prescription of death penalty on &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;only&lt;/span&gt; two occassions (&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;al-Maidah&lt;/span&gt; 5:32) does not in anyway weakens any of the authentic &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;ahadith&lt;/span&gt; ascribed to the Prophet(s). For instance this one narrated by Ikramah(r) and recorded by Bukhariy in his collection&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to &#39;Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn Abbas who said, &quot;If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah&#39;s Apostle forbade it, saying, &#39;Do not punish anybody with Allah&#39;s punishment (fire).&#39; I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah&#39;s Apostle, &lt;u&gt;&#39;Whoever changed his (Islamic) religion, then kill him.&#39;&lt;/u&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/084.sbt.html&quot;&gt;(Sahih Bukhariy, Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;The above hadith and few others are generally understood by classical Muslim scholars as adding a third instance invoking capital punishment (i.e killing &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/03/in-defense-of-abdul-rahman-and-truth.html&quot;&gt;apostates&lt;/a&gt;). Ghamidi opines that all of these should be revisited in the light of principles established in Quran rather than adding something explicitly to the body of these principles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He asserted that there&#39;s no doubt in the authenticity of the ahadith in question per se. However the application of these traditions or deductions from them are redundant in modern times even if there&#39;s an ideal Islamic state. No one except Prophet(s) can claim the removal of all the excuse in relation to accepting the revealed truth of God Almighty, a concept which is called &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.understanding-islam.org/related/text.asp?type=question&amp;qid=42&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Itmaam al-Hujjah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and therefore no one except him could implement death penalty for apostates. As he is no more amongst us, the ultimate decision would be revealed by God on the day of judgement and should be postponed as such. This right cannot be claimed by anybody after Prophet no matter how much effort is put in to present the true message of Islam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ghamidi&#39;s reiteration of his position has a multidimensional importance in the overall framework of contemporary Islamic scholarship and its methodology which is currently experiencing its formative period. Firstly first it establishes that the school of Ghamidi/&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://dar-ut-tazkeer.com/islahi.htm&quot;&gt;Islahi&lt;/a&gt; has dropped the sheer skepticism towards the science of hadith in general though its not among the primary sources of understanding Islam, in principle. Secondly it raises many questions regarding the pre-formative history of Muslims. For instance the concept of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Itmam al-Hujjah&lt;/span&gt; (as understood by Ghamidi) seems anachronic in light of coarse presentation of Islam that earliest of the Muslims used to extend during their expansions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before I start meandering I give these bleary thoughts some time to transform into meaningful questions.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114826335510047971/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114826335510047971' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114826335510047971'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114826335510047971'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/05/whosoever-changes-his-religion-kill.html' title='Whosoever changes his religion, kill him!'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114814790811855983</id><published>2006-05-20T09:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-05-20T22:03:49.280-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Great Books of Islamic Tradition"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Series and Sequels"/><title type='text'>Great Books of Islamic Tradition</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot; id=&quot;docu&quot;&gt;Forseeing the magnitude of my professional commitment (which is ironically tangential to my intellectual indulgings) in next few months, I intend to blog about things which are comparatively less demanding for my (e/o)ver-occupied cranium.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Great books are not just about inducing intellectual pleasures, setting trends or moving large masses of readers in a particular direction. Not that books which seek to do all of the above are underachievers in some capacity, its just that these are not meant to be remembered as nonpareil in the history of text.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether a text circumscribes a &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/tradition-2-conversation-incarnate.html&quot;&gt;tradition&lt;/a&gt; or transcribes it is a question that would keep inviting people to ponder till eternity. A far easier proposition is that a text when embodies a tradition becomes a paragon. It does not remain a mere text anymore but starts to breathe and lives through those who access it with purpose. Interacting with such texts is not just a modest experience we call &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;reading&lt;/span&gt; but an intention to embody it in some capacity, to understand those who embodied it and embodied the tradition as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I intend to start a never ending series on such great texts of Islamic tradition. The primary motivation was &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://islamicbookstore.com/b5667.html&quot;&gt;Great Books of Islamic Civilisation&lt;/a&gt; which though lacking in some ways is an excellent reference putting up a cross-section of all the important areas of knowledge in which Muslims indulged themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;tag-file&quot;&gt;Filed In: &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://del.icio.us/asembuxi/Books&quot; rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;Books&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://del.icio.us/asembuxi/Tradition&quot; rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;Tradition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114814790811855983/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114814790811855983' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114814790811855983'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114814790811855983'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/05/great-books-of-islamic-tradition.html' title='Great Books of Islamic Tradition'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114701519834809826</id><published>2006-05-07T08:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-05-07T11:35:04.816-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Classical Jurisprudence"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Ilm al Ikhtilaf"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Islam and Modernity"/><title type='text'>Addendum to &#39;Cosmopolitan Fiqh&#39; Post</title><content type='html'>In 1980, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cii.gov.pk/index.asp&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Council of Islamic Ideology&lt;/a&gt; of Pakistan initiated the first comprehensive report comprising proposals for making the economy &lt;em&gt;Shariah &lt;/em&gt;compliant with special emphasis on elimination of &lt;a href=&quot;http://islamic-finance.net/islamicfiqh/islbanks/riba-art.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;riba&#39;a&lt;/a&gt; from the banking system. The report is considered by many as the first consensus-driven approach towards a combined &#39;intrusion&#39; of pseudo-modernist and traditionalist scholarship into the realm of classical &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2005/10/concise-definition-of-fiqh.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;fiqh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; and far ahead (atleast in Pakistan). Though it is never taken as such by the religious circles, it can easily be understood as a valid conceptual attempt at exercising &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ijtihad&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;ijtihad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; in modern times.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This and many such attempts later cannot be circumscribed within the bounds of any traditionalist methodology. The content (which is coming up lately in copious amounts and would continue to expand quickly in future as well)&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;do not belong to &lt;em&gt;hanafi&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;shafii&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;maliki&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;hanbali&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;zaidi &lt;/em&gt;or &lt;em&gt;ja&#39;afri&lt;/em&gt; literature but equally belongs to a genre of &#39;Islamic jurisprudence literature&#39;. If these attempts are analysed in detail keeping traditional jurisprudential methodologies in perspective, it is not difficult to realize that though many opinions of the classical scholars pose difficulties to solve complex contemporary problems (especially in the fields of modern economics), there are as many opinions from the past which may lead us to smooth solutions as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the valid illustration of this inevitable as well as methodological &#39;pick and choose&#39; approach is a comparison of opinions between Imam Abu Hanifa and Imam Malik in identifying bare minimum rights of people in relation to public law when they make promises among themselves and fail to keep those due to various reasons. The question in consideration is that how to quantify liability if a person promises to buy all the products of my factory and refuses when the products are manufactured. In pre-modern times it was considered impossible to assess minimum identifiable liabilities in such deals. Abu Hanifa held that such promises though considered binding by &lt;em&gt;Shariah&lt;/em&gt; cannot be represented in a court of law in case one refuses to keep them. The justice will be served on the day of judgement as Allah has promised. Malik on the other hand asserts opposite and considered subjecting such a person to court of law with the condition that he completely understands the implications of his promise for instance an incurred financial loss to other party in case of dishonoring the terms decided.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is needless to say that Abu Hanifa&#39;s opinion doesn&#39;t hold good as far as modern commerce &amp;amp; trade mechanisms are concerned. The process that begins from &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorandum_of_Association&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;memorandum of association&lt;/a&gt;, continues through details of various forms of capitals that a firm requires and other nitty gritties of corporate liabilities is a simple promise between two persons if we try to analyse it from the lens of a &lt;em&gt;hanafi&lt;/em&gt; jurist. On the other hand Malik&#39;s opinion, if considered in detail, may give us leads to exercise &lt;em&gt;ijtihad &lt;/em&gt;in modern times when a usual promise may be one between a hundred thousand persons and a &#39;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_entity&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;fictitious person&lt;/a&gt;&#39;.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114701519834809826/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114701519834809826' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114701519834809826'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114701519834809826'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/05/addendum-to-cosmopolitan-fiqh-post.html' title='Addendum to &#39;Cosmopolitan Fiqh&#39; Post'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114676497456015614</id><published>2006-05-04T10:43:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-05-06T09:53:18.380-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Classical Jurisprudence"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Ilm al Ikhtilaf"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Islam and Modernity"/><title type='text'>Cosmopolitan Fiqh</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot; id=&quot;docu&quot;&gt;While &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yursil.com/blog/2006/05/a-response-to-attacks-of-traditionalists-by-reformists/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;traditionalists&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://eteraz.wordpress.com/2006/05/02/reply-to-islamic-traditionalist/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;reformists&lt;/a&gt; continue their indulgence in fiery encounters (all in good faith) and &lt;a href=&quot;http://underprogress.blogs.com/weblog/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;thabet&lt;/a&gt; wrapped &lt;a href=&quot;http://underprogress.blogs.com/weblog/2006/05/talking_traditi.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;it&lt;/a&gt; (and more) up concisely, &lt;a href=&quot;http://avari.blogs.com/weblog/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;haroon&lt;/a&gt; posted a &lt;a href=&quot;http://avari.blogs.com/weblog/2006/04/advaita_in_the_.html#comment-16732800&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;comment&lt;/a&gt; worthy of deliberation and serious attention. The contents of this post are a result of some hasty thoughts that followed haroon&#39;s cue but may not be directly linked to the problem he posed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It would help if I reproduce the complete question here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;...is there a way to realize the traditionalist respect for the four madhahib and extend it to a legal framework that takes into account newer, serious developments in Islamic law and theology, including more modernist perspectives, Wahhabist perspectives, etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The question in a way presumes that the &lt;u&gt;four&lt;/u&gt; &lt;em&gt;orthodox&lt;/em&gt; legal schools derive their respect directly due to the legal consistency and historical strength of arguments behind their methodology. That may be true for a theoretic sake of traditionalist&#39;s argument but historically speaking, people started practicing according to these four interpretations because of administrative reasons and by virtue of their being located in a particular setting where a methodology was formed up, evolved and subsequently presented later foundation for legal corpus. Thus for the sake of precision, it would be more accurate to say that development and evolution of &lt;em&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2005/10/concise-definition-of-fiqh.html&quot;&gt;fiqh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (Islamic Jurisprudence) came about &lt;em&gt;historically&lt;/em&gt; through conflicts rather than being a product of objective and tangible methods.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The realization (above) though elusive brings along a lot of theoretical baggage. A rather concrete point that can follow from this is that the jurisprudential sources of one legal school are no more an intellectual property of jurists of that school. Therefore a jurist of sub-continent may consider (and will certainly be compelled to do so in future) Asad bin Furaat&#39;s &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Mudawanaa&lt;/span&gt;, Shafii&#39;s &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Kitab al-Umm&lt;/span&gt; and Ibn Qudama&#39;s &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;al-Mughanni&lt;/span&gt; as much a jurisprudential source as he considers any of the texts/commentaries of Hanafi school of law. I do have a fair idea of the magnitutde of intircacies invloved in exercising jurisprudential preference (&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Tarjih&lt;/span&gt;) and alleged lack of consistency in method if jurists move out of their respective methodologies but what I am suggesting here is not simply a wild game of pick and choose rather an originating mindset that juridic literature would be taken as a whole in times to come due to various inevitable and practical reasons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I mean how can one neglect encyclopedic efforts like &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;al-Muhalla&lt;/span&gt; of Ibn Hazm and &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Fatawa&lt;/span&gt; of Ibn Taymiah just because their respective schools were not developed, evolved and sustained the test of time or seen as a digression from the content of four schools. The degree of depth in Islamic legal methodology and the number of dimensions in which it provides foundational sources cannot be ascertained completely unless the complete Islamic legal material would be taken as a whole and studied as such.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I contend this because the development of any modern Islamic legal system (&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;encompassing all the modern facets of law and not just the quantity of water one should consume when doing ablution - though latter can be a good ethical source for guiding regulatory laws of our modern day consumption habits&lt;/span&gt;) cannot remain bounded in a particular school&#39;s legal framework and would tend to build upon the collective fabric of Islam&#39;s legal base. This development would again be &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;historical&lt;/span&gt; due to inevitable circumstances rather than a composed and objective deliberate effort. The signs of such developments are already obvious in the &lt;em&gt;fiqh&lt;/em&gt; of trade, commerce and banking and the current period may be understood and remembered in history as formative phase in the development of a Cosmopolitan Fiqh &lt;span style=&quot;font-size:78%;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;. There is no particular way to imbibe this realization purposefully as it is already being insinuated through various intangible agents. However future historian&#39;s analysis would bring about the true character of this formation.&lt;br /&gt;_______________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;1. I came across this pithy term in transcribed lectures of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iiu.edu.pk/aboutiiu/chart.asp&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;Dr. Mahmood Ahmed Ghazi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt; on various dimensions of &lt;em&gt;fiqh.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114676497456015614/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114676497456015614' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114676497456015614'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114676497456015614'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/05/cosmopolitan-fiqh.html' title='Cosmopolitan Fiqh'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114659129334099372</id><published>2006-05-02T09:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-05-20T11:40:11.873-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Blogging and Bloggers"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Land of the Pure"/><title type='text'>Blogspot unblocked in Pakistan</title><content type='html'>I have just clicked my blog link accidently (without feeding it through an online proxy outside Pakistan) and found that blogspot has been unblocked; atleast that is how it seems for now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Update May 10:&lt;/span&gt; Not any more. &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.pta.gov.pk/&quot;&gt;PTA&lt;/a&gt; has again blocked all the blogs hosted on blogspot. In the meantime:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pkblogs.com/&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7494/slaptheblock3oy.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Slap the block&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;94&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114659129334099372/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114659129334099372' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114659129334099372'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114659129334099372'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/05/blogspot-unblocked-in-pakistan.html' title='Blogspot unblocked in Pakistan'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114639797717262652</id><published>2006-04-30T04:14:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-30T11:18:01.776-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Philosophy"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Series and Sequels"/><title type='text'>Tradition (4) - Conclusion and more...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot; id=&quot;docu&quot;&gt;This would be my conclusive post building upon the character of tradition as portrayed in the first three entries of this series (&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/tradition-1-key-dualities.html&quot;&gt;1&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/tradition-2-conversation-incarnate.html&quot;&gt;2&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/tradition-3-converse-to-create.html&quot;&gt;3&lt;/a&gt;). I would very concisely highlight few important areas of thought which can be viewed from alternate perspectives by traditionalist and non traditionalist alike if they revisit their notion of the concept tradition.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Belonging to one or multiple traditions would seem totally at place if it is understood as a critical indulgence in our past in order to make our existence meaningful. I have briefly adumbrated in the last post that such a critical enterprise is necessary if we want to create and maintain different forms of knowledge in order to help us understand the world around us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Which tradition(s) should one associate himself with?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unless it is understood as a meaningful participation, people do not like to play their parts in keeping a conversation alive. Therefore the responsibility of keeping the tradition(s) alive solely rests upon the soulders of people who are existing in present and haven&#39;t faded away in history themselves. The question above is generally asked when people (or a specific group of people) associate themselves with a particular tradition thereby making a statement that rest of the conversations are not worthy of their attention. Such statements set forth the foundation of a duality with groups of people on extremes deafening the atmosphere in between with noises of their respective conversations. It is very important to understand that different traditions can coexist simultaneously in a person simply because he is unable to understand the world around him in one language.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Traditions within a Tradition&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes in our effort to &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;preserve&lt;/span&gt; a specific tradition we tend to confuse it with the concept of history. A living tradition is not like an event in history but an ever renewed phenomena needing fresh participants. While events in history &#39;happen&#39; tradition has to be &#39;created&#39; and &#39;maintained&#39; if its character is understood as something built on eternal foundations. Such a living tradition should not be understood as a single converstion but a cluster where different conversations keep losing their signifcance and others keep gaining dominance. This nature of tradition should be understood as a normal phenomena. A valid example is of several Muslim Traditions belonging to the same Islamic Tradition and constantly keep enriching it in past as well as present.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;The Art of Conversation - Education of Tradition or Traditional Education&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;font-size:78%;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Active and meaningful participation in this figurative conversation cannot be attributed to human instinct. In other words its a behavior we have to learn and not something rooted in our creation. The process of this learning comprises of both formal and informal means of education. Keeping this in perspective, &#39;education of tradition&#39; and &#39;traditional education&#39; are two essentially different processes of learning. While former is a way to teach people how to imbibe a particular behavior, latter is way to protect the meanings of a mythical past from being contaminated by the contemporary concerns. This is based on an erroneous assumption that the organic link between the past and the present is broken and many unwanted dualities are imminent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;I have just tried to provide here a sketch how various dichotomies and conflicts are founded on a false concept of tradition. The brands of dualities within Islam are not mentioned on purpose because the debate on Tradition Vs Modernism is not necessarily an Islamic debate. Though Islam has been at the forefront in prompting that debate at first place. A lot can be built on each of these concepts if we want to shed more light with specific focus on Islam. I leave it as a ceaseless exercise for later, insha&#39;Allah.&lt;br /&gt;_____________________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;1. Another subtle difference highlighted by &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.iiu.edu.my/educ/staff/yedullah.htm&quot;&gt;Dr. Yedullah Kazmi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114639797717262652/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114639797717262652' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114639797717262652'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114639797717262652'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/tradition-4-conclusion-and-more_30.html' title='Tradition (4) - Conclusion and more...'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114620791248602457</id><published>2006-04-27T23:08:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-28T00:12:43.360-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Philosophy"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Series and Sequels"/><title type='text'>Tradition (3) - Converse to Create Knowledge</title><content type='html'>&lt;div id=&quot;docu&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot;&gt;To slightly recapitulate what I have touched till now, the character of tradition is of conversation in a figurative sense. Numerous &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/tradition-1-key-dualities.html&quot;&gt;dualities&lt;/a&gt; between tradition and not-(understood-as)-tradition exist because of our inability to grasp this specific character of tradition. However the observation may be considered totally subjective, and rightly so, unless the argument is extended and used to have an objective insight into various arenas. The present post is a result of my deliberation on &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Georg_Gadamer&quot;&gt;Gadamer&#39;s&lt;/a&gt; concept of &#39;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;effective history&lt;/span&gt;&#39; and &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.iiu.edu.my/educ/staff/yedullah.htm&quot;&gt;Dr. Yedullah Kazmi&#39;s&lt;/a&gt; application of that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If tradition is a necessary conversation with our past in order to make sense of our lives, whether it should be understood as a rigid monolithic structure which is totally uniform or a diverse enterprise rich with inherent multifariousness? More basic questions could be that why there is a need to undertake take this conversation with the past, at all? How one should go about doing it and for how long? All these questions if put in their respective perspectives give clues as to how tradition fits into other impressions and undertakings of human society. To put it differently, objective answers to these questions lead us to mechanisms through which humans create their social reality,  which is itself a source of dualities that was touched briefly in &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/tradition-1-key-dualities.html&quot;&gt;first part&lt;/a&gt; of this series. Still extending this further, the answers to these questions may help us disentangle the dualities and bring us out of this impasse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even if we understand the importance of conversations with past (to give meaning to our selves in present and thus make our flow objective in the &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;temporal continuum&lt;/span&gt;), is it just an egoistical endeavour or something superior? The answer lies in what we understand from &#39;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;making sense of our lives&lt;/span&gt;&#39;. This &#39;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;sense&lt;/span&gt;&#39; is nothing but the sense of the world which we inhabit. Moral, histrorical and sociological are different ways through which this world leaves impressions on ourselves. Expressing these impressions through these &#39;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;languages&lt;/span&gt;&#39; is actually an exhibition of our sentience. Moreover the world around us is not a unifacial entity which can be efficaciously described in a single language. We essentially need to construct different languages to describe different aspects of the world. Hence we perpetually create languages, maintain them and keep modifiying them in order to keep making sense of our contemporary world. Language of morals, humanities, social sciences and physical sciences are few such languages which came into being through conscious effort with a common objective i.e. an optimum description of the world and consequently our existence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Languages are nothing but different forms of knowledge and unless what is presented above is found completely obscure, forms of knowledge are embedded in the same process through which we make sense of our own existence. It is necessary therefore to comprehend that knowledge is not created and maintained by an internally isolated logic but part of a larger process to express intricacies of human existence. Knowledge and different traditions of the world are complected at various layers. These layers if appropriately maginified would reveal the true nature of dualities (&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/tradition-1-key-dualities.html&quot;&gt;which I have already highlighted&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For instance, various traditions of the world have their own forms of knowledge and the &#39;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;language&lt;/span&gt;&#39; which gains dominance in a specific time (due to many reasons) would be used to give dominance to a particular tradition and thus the forms of knowledge it has constructed and maintained. More importantly the dominant language (for instance the language of science presently) may be used to derive validity for existence of other languages. This evaluation of other languages by the dominant language give rise to conflicts and dichotomies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To summarize this post, tradition is a process to construct forms of knowledge. We need to carryout this critical conversation with awarenesss in order to identify the roots of these forms.  This awareness  would enable us to manage pseudo-conflicts at higher levels which might not be between traditionalism and rationalism per se but because of giving dominance to one form of knowledge over other.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114620791248602457/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114620791248602457' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114620791248602457'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114620791248602457'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/tradition-3-converse-to-create.html' title='Tradition (3) - Converse to Create Knowledge'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114607693785805871</id><published>2006-04-26T10:44:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-26T17:53:42.570-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Book Reviews"/><title type='text'>Islam in Medieval and Early Modern English Literature</title><content type='html'>A valuable research by Hafiz Abid Masood, a lecturer in the Department of English, &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.iiu.edu.pk/&quot;&gt;International Islamic University&lt;/a&gt;, Islamabad has been published in a recent issue of Islamic Studies, a Pakistan based quarterly journal of Islamic Research. This is a comprehensive bibliography (approx 50 pages) listing all the publications of English literature that can be understood as 1) pertaining to representation of Islam and Muslims in some capacity and 2) dealing with the influence of Muslim literary traditions on the European.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to the compiler:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;The present bibliography is part of a larger project that aims at compiling a comprehensive list of works dealing with the influence of Islam on, as well as Islam&#39;s representation in, English literature. Two main considerations have guided the choice of material that has gone into the present bibliography. The first was related to the transmission of ideas from Muslim lands to England with specific focus on English literature. The second consideration was to explore how Muslims were depicted in English literature. The types of material that have been identified here range from full-scale books and monographs to articles published in journals, conference papers, dissertations and sometimes even lectures that were delivered at various Eastern and Western universities.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The work has been furnished awesomely with an introduction to all the genres that have been neatly divided into parts, sections and sub-sections. Its a worth keeping reference that should not be missed by any bibliophile.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114607693785805871/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114607693785805871' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114607693785805871'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114607693785805871'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/islam-in-medieval-and-early-modern_26.html' title='Islam in Medieval and Early Modern English Literature'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114595838067573300</id><published>2006-04-25T02:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-25T03:54:08.946-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Philosophy"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Series and Sequels"/><title type='text'>Tradition (2) - Conversation Incarnate</title><content type='html'>The dualities that I arbitrarily highlighted in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/tradition-1-key-dualities.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;last post&lt;/a&gt; are significant to hold us here for a moment to identify a station where we presently find ourselves placed. Interestingly in this process of self-specualtion, each one of us may find himself attached to a particular side of divide. However a myriad of individual variances usually based upon noetic inclinations would be readily observable. (&lt;span style=&quot;FONT-STYLE: italic;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;Of course for the sake of this exercise, I disregard those who take the understanding of the world around them for granted. Not that they are less important but they follow the lead of others&#39; intellects to station themselves on a particular side of the divide. At some level all of us do follow leads but that was just a funny subjective distraction&lt;/span&gt;). A valid illustration of this fact is that a person living in a &lt;span style=&quot;FONT-STYLE: italic&quot;&gt;modern&lt;/span&gt; society may derive intuitively from &lt;span style=&quot;FONT-STYLE: italic&quot;&gt;traditional&lt;/span&gt; epistemology rather then a purely rational argument in line with skepticism, empiricism or &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_positivism&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;logical positivism&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having this as a backdrop that all of us do belong to this network of dichotomies and perfectly placed there, it takes much to sift, sieve and bring out the true character of tradition and its relationship with our lives. Our notions about selves are subjugated by the illations dictated by time. &lt;a href=&quot;http://sun3.lib.uci.edu/~scctr/philosophy/warnke.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Georgia Warnke&lt;/a&gt;, for instance, while explaining Gadamer&#39;s position in &lt;span style=&quot;FONT-STYLE: italic&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0804714339?v=glance&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Gadamer: Hermeneutics, Tradition and Reason&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; accurately puts forth that human understanding of self is conditioned by the time. Rather then attaching various predicates with itself, it flows in a temporal continuum. Which effectively means that past, present and future are engrafted in such a way that each one of these conditions the other and adds variables to its course. In case of present and future its obvious, however what is the course of past and how it can be logically variant in a temporal structure which is essentially serial?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The answer is that our understanding of the past is shaped up according to the present which is formed in front of and by us. In more concrete terms, events in time do happen according to a serial flow but our understanding of these events does not follow the same course. This understanding of past gives a new meaning to our present or act as a justification for an already held close-to-heart meaning. We take this newly found or subconciously ratified meaning and carry on constructing our future. This in its very nature is a perpetual enterprise and each one of us undertakes it all the time. How I go about living my life is a complete narration of my self representing how I have attempted to build upon the plots and storlylines of the past thereby supplying me with strong cornerstones of present on which I keep on building my future. That is strictly a personal relationship with the continuum in which I was &#39;thrown&#39;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tradition in the light of above is not merely a point in history which has exhausted its potential. It is not an event or set of events happened in a confined slot. It is rather a phenomena in history which makes our past alive to interact with our present in order to make our existence meaningful while directing the course of our future. In a specific culture or society individuals do help each other by way of spontaneous manifestations of this phenomena to contribute in developing and preserving a collective tradition. In that sense tradition may be understood as our perceptual conversation with phenomena of past &lt;span style=&quot;font-size:78%;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;. This conversation is essentially a critical enterprise where questions like how? why? and what? are apt to be asked. Where there is an acknowledgement that our exchange is not with a person (figurative) long dead but an enriched and lively being full of potential to impart us with understanding.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We carry out this conversation with all the tools usually emloyed to indulge in a critical enquiry, for instance textual, lingual and logical. However the aim of this enquiry with our past is not only to ingest the validity, soundness and rational coherence of the proposition but to touch the depths and dig out the actual force with which the claim was actually put in a different historical context. However our choice to make this a mechanical relationship, thereby bringing out the claims one after the other without the context in which these were made, would be construed as abandoning the conversation in the middle. As a result we would loose meanings of our present which in turn will give us a wrong impression of our past and would complicate our relationship with history, a topic on which I am going to have my next shot.&lt;br /&gt;________________________________________&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. I first read about conversational character of tradition quite a while ago in a research paper on Islamic Education by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iiu.edu.my/educ/staff/yedullah.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Dr. Yadullah Kazmi&lt;/a&gt; published in Islamic Studies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114595838067573300/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114595838067573300' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114595838067573300'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114595838067573300'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/tradition-2-conversation-incarnate.html' title='Tradition (2) - Conversation Incarnate'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114569834199680648</id><published>2006-04-22T02:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-23T17:48:21.480-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Philosophy"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Series and Sequels"/><title type='text'>Tradition (1) - Key Dualities</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot; id=&quot;docu&quot;&gt;In my modest yet well-grounded opinion, the present stalemate between traditionalists and Non-Traditionalists (to include all and sundry) stems from the (mis) conceptualization of the concept &#39;tradition&#39;. There is understandably a prevailing proclivity for fear that if Muslims would assay to make sense of their being in time they would loose their connection with tradition. I aim to limn the concept of tradition and what it connects to in a series of posts.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All these views are of course in the light of my readings so far and are subject to be evolved and vary with time and maturity of thought, if Allah may desire so. I contend for the purpose of my present undertaking that any discourse dwelling on what we call &#39;Islamic Tradition&#39; would be premature and may be misleading if we do not attempt to excavate the concept tradition from the core and analyse it in detail.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I tend to purpose below that there are multiple levels of dichotomy encircling the concept of tradition. The spontaneous falsification of language which has found grounds in pseudo-intellectual conversations of our time is at the heart of each such level. Its more of a subtle diversion rather than mere degeneration property of time where words tend to loose their meaning and convey too less, too much or simply nothing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Epistemological Dichotomy: Traditional Vs Rational Grounds of Knowledge&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One level of this duality is perceived and purported when there seems to be an organic connection between two terms on each side of this divide. Thereby &lt;em&gt;tradition&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;religion&lt;/em&gt; is seen as necessarily opposite to what is understood as &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;modern&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;secular&lt;/span&gt;. In these duality-pairs, only the former i.e. &lt;em&gt;traditional&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;modern&lt;/em&gt; concerns me at the moment. At the root of this dichotomy lies the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;European Enlightenment Project&lt;/a&gt;, the age of reason, where methods like &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Cogito ergo sum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; were notably put forward in search of &lt;em&gt;free&lt;/em&gt; foundations of knowledge. Avoiding prolixity and making this point rather hastily, I would just say that history at this level of duality is seen as a hindrance and &lt;em&gt;every&lt;/em&gt; tradition was understood as a point in history where knowledge was not based on rational grounds. There were criticisms against, for instance by &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidegger&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Heidegger&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Georg_Gadamer&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Gadamer&lt;/a&gt; but these are not concretely pertinent to the point of contention.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Social Dichotomy: Modern and Traditional Societies&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A further extension of the same argument gave rise to another level of division due to different perception of social reality by humans. Human beings being the author of the reality around them, of which they are a part too, are bound to see reason as a tool for progress and change according to the enlightened view. Societies which fail to do so or were percieved to construct reality through the tools of tradition and hence understood as standpat, frozen in time, nonprogressive and socially stagnant. Regardless of the reality around them and of which they were a part, people who valued traditional socieites were considered traditionalist and those esteeming modern societies considered modernists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Human Vs Super-human Tradition&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A duality which is hard to be entitled with a jazzy epithet but which is perhaps the easiest to notice is how the concept of tradition is brought down from the perennial Super-human canons to another level which is necessarily human. To my knowledge this duality is best described by &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;traditionalist philosophers&lt;/a&gt; like &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rene_Guenon&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;René Guénon (Abd al-Wahid Yahya)&lt;/a&gt; in his various writings, for instance &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0900588675/102-7831574-0887303?v=glance&amp;n=283155&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Reign of Quantity&lt;/a&gt;, where he asserts that &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;nothing that is of a purely human order can for that very reason be legitimately be called &#39;traditional&#39;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and its only in the profane sense of the language that we have come to use terms like &#39;philosophical tradition&#39;, &#39;scientific tradition&#39; or &#39;political tradition&#39;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The implications of the above analysis may be subtle but gain importance when imported into the context of various forms of communication and corrupt them. Those who call themselves &#39;traditionalist&#39; may easily get duped without even knowing they they are merely &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;questers&lt;/span&gt; being emotionally attached with a particularly retained perception of tradition. In my view identifying these dualities is not merely a quiddity of words but significant if kept at the backdrop of analysing relationship between &lt;em&gt;tradition and history&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;tradition and knowledge&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before dwelling into these relationships and Islamic tradition&#39;s in particular I have to compose the true character of tradition as I understand it after sifting these duality-pairs. That would be my next entry insha&#39;Allah.&lt;br /&gt;_________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;1. Rene Guenon, &lt;em&gt;The Reign of Quantity and The Sign of Times&lt;/em&gt;, Suhail Academy, P.254&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114569834199680648/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114569834199680648' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114569834199680648'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114569834199680648'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/tradition-1-key-dualities.html' title='Tradition (1) - Key Dualities'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114555594995089881</id><published>2006-04-20T10:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-23T21:16:19.926-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Land of the Pure"/><title type='text'>A Unique Coalescence of Paradoxes</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;1. A Resolute Citizen...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;border: 1px none ; margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px;&quot; src=&quot;http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4205/harcharansingh4jc.jpg&quot; align=&quot;left&quot; /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://beta.blogger.com/href=http://www.dawn.com/2005/12/20/nat12.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Hercharn Singh&lt;/a&gt; became the first &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Sikh&lt;/a&gt; officer to be inducted into Pakistan Army. There is already a precedence for officers from Christian and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsi&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Parsi&lt;/a&gt; community but no Hindu or Sikh was able to make it to the ranks of Army yet. The news reports say that the cadet was skeptical that he would not be able to get through the preliminary phase even. Failing in the first attempt he kept his hopes alive and got selected in second attempt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;2. His Pride and Patriotism...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It was the happiest moment of my life when I came to know about my selection in the army. I am privileged to have this honour which none of my predecessors could ever achieve.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;My mother wants me to earn a good name for the country.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Being the first Sikh cadet, I wish and pray also to be the first one to be a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;shaheed&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;3. A Misplaced Shibboleth...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Army#Motto&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;motto&lt;/a&gt; of the Pakistan Army reads: &#39;&lt;a style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iman&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Iman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqwa&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Taqwa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;, Jihad fi Sabilillah&lt;/span&gt;&#39;. I dont know if everyone can appreciate the comical side of it but the slogan is 30 years old. Prior to that Army worked on &#39;Unity, Faith &amp; Discipline&#39;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;4. An Ideology still being Probed...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;It is extremely difficult to appreciate why our Hindu friends fail to understand the real nature of Islam and Hinduism. They are not religious in the strict sense of the word, but are, in fact, different and distinct social orders, and it is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality, and this misconception of one Indian nation has troubles and will lead India to destruction if we fail to revise our notions in time. The Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, litterateurs. They neither intermarry nor interdine together and, indeed, they belong to two different civilizations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspect on life and of life are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, different heroes, and different episodes. Very often the hero of one is a foe of the other and, likewise, their victories and defeats overlap. To yoke together two such nations under a single state, one as a numerical minority and the other as a majority, must lead to growing discontent and final destruction of any fabric that may be so built for the government of such a state. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);font-size:78%;&quot; &gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nazariapak.info/data/quaid/statements/two-nation.asp&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;source&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;5. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_5-4-2004_pg7_54&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Conventional Wisdom&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;The emphasis on religion is hard to miss. At the main entrance to the academy, an Arabic-lettered sign proclaims: &#39;Victory Awaits Those Who Have Faith in God.&#39; Fallen war heroes are honored in a Martyrs Gallery. The curriculum includes a six-month course in Islamic studies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#39;Our basic route is Islam,&#39; says Manan Abdul, 20, an army officer’s son from Punjab province who will soon graduate from the academy as a second lieutenant. &#39;When we have to command, when we have to make decisions, for that we have a role model: the prophet, peace be upon him.&#39;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Senior officers caution against reading too much into the Army’s embrace of religious symbols and slogans — including its 28-year-old motto (now 30), &#39;&lt;u&gt;Faith, Piety and Jihad in the Way of Allah&lt;/u&gt;&#39; — which they describe as a &#39;motivational tool&#39; rather than a battle cry against the West. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;To motivate men to sacrifice their lives and take others&#39; is probably the most difficult profession of the world. I am happy that Hercharn Singh achieved his goal fulfilling his mother&#39;s wishes; and for this I wish him a prosperous future. On a more realistic note however, I doubt that he would ever be able to navigate his way cleanly through the present labyrinth which is a product of 60 years old history of his motherland. While he will constantly search for his identity in a challenging career ahead I am still finding &lt;a href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2005/09/finding-footsteps-in-mire.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;footsteps in the mire&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114555594995089881/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114555594995089881' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114555594995089881'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114555594995089881'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/unique-coalescence-of-paradoxes.html' title='A Unique Coalescence of Paradoxes'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114546763759129638</id><published>2006-04-19T10:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-20T22:25:09.296-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Blogging and Bloggers"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Soliloquizing"/><title type='text'>A Flimsy Incertitude</title><content type='html'>Reading SheilaX&#39;s preciously cute &lt;a href=&quot;http://higher-criticism.blogspot.com/2006/04/blogging-for-islam-best-practices.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;tips&lt;/a&gt; to bloggers for Islam forced me to think earnestly about issues that are usually alien to my cranium. Not that I consider myself a total pinhead as far as cyber world is concerned, but I never realised before reading her wise post that I am actually &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;blogging for Islam&lt;/span&gt;. As a result I explored myself seriously for the first time to search my motives to write and the present entry is a result of this soul searching.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am writing for plenty of reasons, the foremost of which is soliloquized in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/profile/12401976&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;profile&lt;/a&gt;. Do I write to please myself? - yes most certainly this is a major reason. Do I write to please others? - not necessarily though an indirect source of pleasure for others is always a virtuous outcome of any endeavour. One of the disclosures which caused the present incertitude was the fact that whatever I am doing cannot be called &#39;blogging&#39; in the ideal sense of prevailing practice. What added considerably to my dilemma was the fact that I primarily use this place to keep a track of more organised thoughts and reflections which are usually constructed after reading books, articles, research papers and other blogs. This effectively means that I usually lose all my spontaneous thoughts, observations and informal remarks; all of which are generally skeptical and muzzy. So I was left with no option but to open another blog titled diametrically opposite to this one. I thought of catchy titles like &#39;Slightly Skeptical&#39; or &#39;Slightly Beyond Skepticism&#39; or &#39;Doubt within Reason&#39;. After wasting few hours in searching domain spaces (due to an additional irritant of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/2006/03/blogspot-pakistan.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;blogspot being blocked in Pakistan&lt;/a&gt;), the good sense prevailed and I decided against scattering myself more than I can manage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I finally resolve to use the same place (this one I mean) for all kinds of reflections; formal, organised, concise and clear; as well as off the cuff, disjointed, prolix and obscure. However my motives remain original.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114546763759129638/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114546763759129638' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114546763759129638'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114546763759129638'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/flimsy-incertitude_19.html' title='A Flimsy Incertitude'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114523818854107164</id><published>2006-04-16T18:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-21T22:26:45.826-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Islam and Modernity"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Philosophy"/><title type='text'>Education and Modernity</title><content type='html'>&lt;div id=&quot;docu&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot;&gt;These bleary thoughts are by no means a meaningful formulation of one of the most knotty problems describing the crisis of modernity. Its just that my good friend thabet&#39;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://underprogress.blogs.com/weblog/2006/04/european_ideas.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;enquiry&lt;/a&gt; on his &lt;a href=&quot;http://underprogress.blogs.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt; stuck with me a little longer and prompted me to ponder consistently on related and a wider range of subjects.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A telling conversation in starting pages of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/042515999X/104-7292588-8254333?v=glance&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Solitaire Mystery&lt;/a&gt; reaches its pinnacle when the father replies to his son who is in love with philosophy that he cannot teach him philosophy purposefully but if he is observant enough of his father&#39;s thinking patterns, he might learn how to think philosophically. The example crudely highlights the difference between learning and gathering information and how each of these specifies the context of an experience we loosely call &#39;education&#39;. Learning about something means much more than garnering facts about the subject of our learning. It is an identification of the particular way how the thought behind that subject or object proceeded, sometimes by a deliberate effort to relive that thought process and at times an awareness when one happens to be a part of that process. This failure to differentiate between these fine experiences, all relating to that larger experience education at some level, is the major reason why we incessantly harp on the philosophies that shaped up the modern world without ever posing questions with the same unflagging resolve regarding the products of the same modernity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This striking inability to &#39;experience&#39; is closely related to commodification of knowledge in modern times. Many thinkers associate this commodification to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Schultz&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Theodore Shultz&#39;s&lt;/a&gt; seemingly maiden &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0029282209?v=glance&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;views&lt;/a&gt; about economics of education. According to other opinions including mine, this understanding is only a logical extension of laws of market economy to the production, processing, acquiring and sharing of knowledge. Moreover in our times, education can be theorized more easily if it is described as one of the means to invest in human capital rather than other epistemological reasons to &#39;know&#39;. The current education system fits perfectly in place if modern economic theories are kept at the backdrop of any such enquiry. For instance, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semester&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;semester system&lt;/a&gt; is nothing but breaking down a process into manageable sizes in order to achieve more efficiency. Student will be able to process more information as a result, similar to any productive industry which produces more if process is efficient. The underlying aim is not to &#39;learn more&#39; about how a particular thought proceeds but to &#39;acquire more&#39; in terms of information.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Moving along same lines of thinking, a valid question may arise regarding what kind of knowledge one should acquire. We are apt to face this question frequently in modern times because knowledge is not understood as a personal configuration of meaning which facilitates one&#39;s faculties to pass judgements anymore. Everything related to education is now an industry and the outcome of this demand-supply phenomena can easily be seen in university where faculty of engineering is paid handsomely as compared to that of philosophy. Moreover when we are in the process of celebrating exponential growth of information which can be safely alluded to its inherent quality &#39;to move&#39;, the means to find justifications for this act of production itself are quickly being put into the dustbin of history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We need to remind ourselves, while being actively creative in doing wonders with knowledge as it is infered in modern times, that education is an intimate relationship between &#39;a being and being&#39; or &#39;a being and the Being&#39;. To get educated about something means effectively to possess a personalised configuration of meaning in order to evaluate its importance. This configuration is basically an understanding which one learns to acquire through developing a relationship with one&#39;s object of learning. Without being equipped with the zeal and intention to experience this relationship, its like learning a football game through a coaching book with graphics. One may become completely &#39;informed&#39; about the complexities of the game but can&#39;t claim that he has &#39;learnt football&#39;. The analogy of the game could be extended to all fields of learning though dynamics of each would be considerably different than the other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This brief enquiry is not an epsitemological one primarily but just a pseudo-ontological drive to find a compass with the shift in nature and existence of our being in modern times. Keeping this motive in perspective, knowledge in Islam in pre-modern times was strictly situated at a personalised level. A teacher is not merely a &#39;facilitator&#39; as we have come to understand in modern times, who merely teaches abstract skills to access, process and retain information but a being who used to teach his life. He used to teach a text depicting a particular thought and mastering that text actually meant to learn the complete thought process behind that text. To put it simply, it was a way to embody knowledge and all the participlants in that learning relationship were completely aware of this ultimate goal. Besides the intent to live what one learns, it was completely a moral and spiritual quest. Every indulgence to educate self ultimately led to make one wise regarding another sign of Allah. The emphasis of that understanding was more on the world here then the world hereafter because knowledge acquired here can only be emodied while we are here. The manifestations of this knowledge were not understood in isolation with the process that ultimately led to it. It was not some disposable experience but once acquired became part of the self.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In modern times there are efforts to retrace the &#39;traditional&#39; pathways leading to an ideal destination without replacing the old signposts. However the language of signs that spirit relates to is changed and crisis of modernity is not the contemporaneousness of the experience itself but the inability of the self to create new guideposts. The terminus, the path and the spirit still share the same origin but the mobility of intellect is hindered and needs new tools to navigate. Perhaps the most important enterprise that Muslims should indulge into is the effort to understand the requirement of a fresh compass in the light of modern philosophies. But this undertaking would only be valid if Muslims become aware of the fact that they are the keepers of an eternal epistemology which is capable of encompassing and validating all the contemporary trends. Moreover the claim of this awareness should not be mere lip service but a spontaneous and ad-lib manifestation. Identification of ways that can bring about such a sentient being may take us to the heart of our forgotten tradition and make our conversations with history current. &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114523818854107164/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114523818854107164' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114523818854107164'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114523818854107164'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/education-and-modernity.html' title='Education and Modernity'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16085346.post-114482026502597007</id><published>2006-04-11T22:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-21T22:27:51.616-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Classical Jurisprudence"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Ilm al Ikhtilaf"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Series and Sequels"/><title type='text'>Amal-e-Ahle Madina (2) - Argument against itself</title><content type='html'>&lt;div id=&quot;docu&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot;&gt;I analysed the rationale behind Imam Malik&#39;s reliance on Practice of Madinites as a juridical source in one of my &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/03/amal-e-ahle-madina-1-imam-maliks.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;previous entries&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 255);&quot;&gt;. Skipping the extension and application of this principle carried out by Malik considering it to be a distraction from my present scope, I intend to furnish the basic argument against the use of this principle in this post.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just a frugal look at Malik&#39;s times can make a reader wise about the dynamics of jurisprudence being neatly dovetailed with regional tradition of opinions. An insight into the sources of these opinion can be a good exercise for yet another essay but it would suffice to say that my readings do not agree in general with the assertions of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Schacht&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Schacht&lt;/a&gt; for instance, regarding the roots of these regional practices. The fact however, that juridic opinions in those times tended to distinguish the practice from region to region is fairly conspicuous. Opinions not only belonged to the regions but used to get famous by the cities which were the hub of knowledge in that region. Moreover cities were famous to station scholars who were considered to be specialists in a particular branch of theology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For instance, Basra was more famous for discussions regarding beliefs and foundational impressions as compared to jurisprudence. Kufa was the center of Iraqian &lt;em&gt;Fiqh&lt;/em&gt; (jurisprudence), primary source of which were the teachings of Ibn Masud (r) and opinions of Ibrahim al-Nakhai. Hammad bin abu Suleyman and Abu Hanifa carried this tradition forward. Damascus was famous for less reliance on &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qiyas&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Qiyas&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (analogy) or &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istihsan&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Istihsan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (preference). The source of Syrian jurisprudence was primarily the &lt;em&gt;athar&lt;/em&gt; (traditions) of Companions and their students. The dominating school in Syria belonged to Awzai and he was not a &lt;em&gt;Muhaddis&lt;/em&gt; like Malik. Madina stood out uniquely among all these cities. It contained knowledge of Hadith, &lt;em&gt;athar&lt;/em&gt; (traditions) of Companions and opinions of their students. To put it more incisively, Madina was the converging as well as originating point of Hadith, practice and opinions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fortunately the correspondence between Malik and al-Laith bin Saad, from which I have drawn previously as well, not only describes Malik&#39;s deductive reasoning but equally illuminates the argument against it. Malik&#39;s position was concise enough, enabling me to render it completely into English from the sources. The counter argument from Laith is a fine piece of literature as well as an excellent presentation of mannerism and respect among classical scholars even when their disagreements are too obvious. Its an extended response and can be found completely in &lt;em&gt;Ailaam al-Muwaqieen&lt;/em&gt; of Ibn Qayyim. I would only try to transcribe the salients here in fear of making this entry too prolix.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Laith acknowledges the receipt of Malik&#39;s missive, expresses his gratitude on this effective and sincere advice and explains the reason for opining against Malik&#39;s decisions which are presumptively in complete concordance with practice of Madinites:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(255, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;You have been informed about my legal opinions contrary to people of Madina. Fact of the matter is that I completely trust the opinions of those who have preceded me. I totally agree with what you have written regarding superiority of knowledge in Madina among cities. All the prior scholars are highly stationed and I have no objection over which their consensus is established.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Among the first of Muhajireen and Ansaar, who are the vanguard of Islam as you wrote, there were many who went away from Madina responding to the call of Jihad. They established their Halaqahs &lt;/em&gt;(&lt;em&gt;circles for imparting knowledge&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;em&gt; in different cities and people flocked there to learn the Book of Allah and Sunnah of Prophet. They exercised Ijtihad (independant reasoning) and gave decisions where they found no evidence from Quran and Sunnah. Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman and those who were trusted by people &lt;/em&gt;(&lt;em&gt;with rule&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;em&gt; carried forward the same practice. These three caliphs were not going to abandon the community of Muslims, neither they were oblivious of their condition (prevailing practices). Rather they used to write regarding minutest of details in relation to religion and were instantly mindful if there were small diversions from the injunctions of Quran and Sunnah. Therefore they have not missed a ruling which was explained by Quran, practiced by the Prophet or discussed later. Whenever a matter came up which has precedence from practice of Companions, they sanctioned it, adopted it and never commanded to act against it. Hence we do not find it permissible for a group of Muslims to adopt a practice which was not practiced by Companions and their students.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(0, 0, 153);&quot;&gt;[I usually translate the word &#39;&lt;em&gt;Tabieen&lt;/em&gt;&#39; as Companions&#39; students. I dont think second or third &#39;generation&#39; of Muslims is always a right rendition].&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;However disagreements among the Companions is a certain fact too and they differed with each other in many cases. Let me write to you if you have no knowledge of these matters. After the Companions, their students differed a lot, for instance people like Saeed Ibn Musayyib. These differences continued to next generations and Ibn Shihab and Rabia bin Abdul Rahman are the leaders &lt;/em&gt;(&lt;em&gt;leading examples&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;em&gt; now a days.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I visited you &lt;/em&gt;(&lt;em&gt;in the past&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;em&gt;, listened and grasped you position. I came to know later &lt;/em&gt;(&lt;em&gt;when I met Rabia&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;em&gt; that Rabia&#39;s opinion is not in accordance with preceding opinions. His opinions were even against those who were considered people of ra&#39;y &lt;/em&gt;(&lt;em&gt;opinion as opposite to tradition in principle&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;em&gt; in Madina, for instance Yahya bin Saeed, Ubaidullah bin Umar and Katheer bin Farqad. Finally you abandoned Rabia&#39;s circle due to these differences. I discussed with you my concerns about these opinions &lt;/em&gt;(&lt;em&gt;Rabia&#39;s opinions&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;em&gt; which I didn&#39;t approve and you agreed. &lt;/em&gt;(&lt;em&gt;Despite of that&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;em&gt; It is an undeniable fact that Rabia enjoys good language, sound vision, exemplary conduct and love for his Muslim brothers. May Allah reward him abundantly for his efforts. I met Ibn Shihab also and there were many differences with him too. One of us wrote to him &lt;/em&gt;(&lt;em&gt;later&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;em&gt; and he explained his position from three different angles which is a proof of his well-grounded knowledge.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All these exchanges invited me to abandon which I did not consider to go against before. The underlying fault of my prior refusal was revealed to me as a result.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Laith continues to give examples hereafter regrading his various differences with Malik&#39;s decisions. The first example is of combining two prayers in the night of rain. He reasons that Syria has high rainfall as compared to Madina and scholars of different regions never gave a decision to combine prayers of &lt;em&gt;Maqhrib&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Ishaa&lt;/em&gt;. He cites precedent from the conduct of Abu Ubaida, Khalid bin Waleed, Yazid bin Abu Sufyan, Abuzar, Saad bin Abi Waqas, Ma&#39;az bin Jabal and many more from different regions. Some of the other examples (that he gives) are regarding decisions in court based on single witness, delaying the dower of women, the issue of &lt;em&gt;Eelaa&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Khutaba&lt;/em&gt; of &lt;em&gt;Istasqa&#39;a&lt;/em&gt; (prayer for rain) and mutual obligation of z&lt;em&gt;akah&lt;/em&gt; on busines partners. He ends his letter with prayers for Imam Malik and asks him to continue giving him advices showing him the fallacies in his opinions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Laith&#39;s argument against practice of Madinites seems sound and unflawed. As shown above in his reasoning, he counters the argument using the practice and opinions of Madinites against themselves. The bottom line of his assertion is that its wrong to bound other regions by practice of Madinities even when there are different practices in Madina itself. The same contention was put differently by Shafii who said that the consensus of Madinite scholars is a prerequisite to any claim of consensus. The pivotal point of Shafii&#39;s disagreement with Malik is again practice as a legal source, however there are few more dimensions to it which I would present in my next entry of this series, insha&#39;Allah.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/feeds/114482026502597007/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16085346&amp;postID=114482026502597007' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114482026502597007'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16085346/posts/default/114482026502597007'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://hangingodes.blogspot.com/2006/04/amal-e-ahle-madina-2-argument-against.html' title='Amal-e-Ahle Madina (2) - Argument against itself'/><author><name>Abu Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11097981480184519296</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/114/7705/640/pic01.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry></feed>