2024-03-19T12:39:41+00:00https://www.redditstatic.com/icon.png//r/overpopulation/.rsshttps://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/e1TzvDxMiKffcE7Xd5DJdPWid48rJilBWkZvCYcbomk.pngWe are growing relentlessly, carrying out deforestation and eradication of other species, exhausting fish stocks, using up our resources to the limit and competing over what remains. Instead of converting a diversified biomass into more and more humans who will intensify the process, let's aim for a lower, stable, more mature population. We have the means, we need the will.Overpopulation: unending growth on our finite planet is impossible./u/topograficahttps://www.reddit.com/user/topografica<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>I don't know how often I have to repeat this, but I'll say it again. If you think the way to solve overpopulation is to murder people en masse, advocate for any sort of forced program a la eugenics or forced sterilisation, then you're not helping. </p> <p>Instead, <strong>you're actively harming the goal of making recognition of overpopulation mainstream</strong>. No one is ever going to agree with the terms or viewpoints you've laid out. The only way to get people to identify overpopulation as a genuine problem is to push solutions that a broad base of people can agree with.</p> <p>Posted because there's been an uptick in comments espousing these views recently. If you want an instant, permanent ban from this subreddit, this is a great way to get one.</p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/topografica"> /u/topografica </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/p2pwz7/advocating_for_murder_eugenics_or_culling_people/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/p2pwz7/advocating_for_murder_eugenics_or_culling_people/">[comments]</a></span>t3_p2pwz72021-08-12T00:28:58+00:002021-08-12T00:28:58+00:00Advocating for murder, eugenics, or culling people does not help make recognition of overpopulation more mainstream./u/ab7afhttps://www.reddit.com/user/ab7af<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Reddit has <a href="https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/23856209638932-Harassment-Filter">a new automated "harassment filter,"</a> built on a Large Language Model. It is (currently) optional for subreddits to use. It automatically removes some posts and comments.</p> <p>It could be just as dystopian as it sounds, but I'm going to turn it on for now. If I disagree with its decisions, I'll turn it off again. </p> <p>You can use <a href="https://www.reveddit.com/">Reveddit</a> to see if your posts or comments are removed. Please <a href="https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/overpopulation">send a modmail</a> if you think it has wrongly censored you, and I'll take a look.</p> <p>Feel free to ask questions, but if the question is "does it remove X, Y or Z," I don't know the answer. We'll find out. Please don't bait it to <em>try</em> to get your comments removed. You can start your own subreddit and try it there if you're that curious.</p> <p>Please continue to use the report button on rule-breaking content that the automated filter does not catch.</p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/ab7af"> /u/ab7af </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1bdetwg/fully_automated_luxury_censorship_comes_to/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1bdetwg/fully_automated_luxury_censorship_comes_to/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1bdetwg2024-03-13T01:27:10+00:002024-03-13T01:27:10+00:00Fully automated luxury censorship comes to r/overpopulation. (I am activating Reddit's new "harassment filter," on a provisional basis. It uses a Large Language Model. I will turn it off if I disagree with its decisions.)/u/FourHand458https://www.reddit.com/user/FourHand458<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>In a planet with finite space and finite resources, it’s not a question of whether the house of cards will fall, but a question of when. Everyone pushing for more people to reproduce is taking part in avoiding the problem we face that a system based on “infinite growth” is not sustainable nor possible especially with many environmental challenges our planet faces later this century and beyond.</p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/FourHand458"> /u/FourHand458 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepThoughts/s/KXw7gzf6Vu">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1bfdb55/from_the_deepthoughts_community_on_reddit_this/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1bfdb552024-03-15T12:55:43+00:002024-03-15T12:55:43+00:00From the DeepThoughts community on Reddit. This needs to be applied to the pipe-dream system of “Infinite Growth”/u/PopulationMediahttps://www.reddit.com/user/PopulationMedia<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1bfdphc/we_need_a_plan_for_the_transition_to_renewable/"> <img src="https://external-preview.redd.it/aaprZs5ZT2p1hUHgvHT4DnpJxp_bKcYN9wD1k5wImGg.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f18d08e86d40ea6fff9ff0cb084f1e73a46f3cbf" alt="We Need a Plan for the Transition to Renewable Energy" title="We Need a Plan for the Transition to Renewable Energy" /> </a> </td><td>   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/PopulationMedia"> /u/PopulationMedia </a> <br/> <span><a href="http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2024/03/we-need-plan-for-transition-to.html">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1bfdphc/we_need_a_plan_for_the_transition_to_renewable/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1bfdphc2024-03-15T13:15:19+00:002024-03-15T13:15:19+00:00We Need a Plan for the Transition to Renewable Energy/u/givemeafuvkingnamehttps://www.reddit.com/user/givemeafuvkingname<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1bdlho6/why_dont_we_just_get_more_people_to_live_in_the/"> <img src="https://preview.redd.it/wacxhhepz1oc1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=cef4ac3e4a17520d99d024c3a51b054332fd8881" alt="Why don't we just get more people to live in the outback" title="Why don't we just get more people to live in the outback" /> </a> </td><td> <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>It's like almost twice the size of india and I'm pretty sure mostly habitable. Am I not seeing something here or did I just solve overpopulation?</p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/givemeafuvkingname"> /u/givemeafuvkingname </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://i.redd.it/wacxhhepz1oc1.jpeg">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1bdlho6/why_dont_we_just_get_more_people_to_live_in_the/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1bdlho62024-03-13T07:25:01+00:002024-03-13T07:25:01+00:00Why don't we just get more people to live in the outback/u/sw1ft87ad3https://www.reddit.com/user/sw1ft87ad3<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1bbvrzi/global_population_crash_isnt_scifi_anymore_niall/"> <img src="https://external-preview.redd.it/IhW_R4yitkE4JsmaqJXywOKeoeK6GcebjoUB6fqPCIU.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=235473c1106b90569ce967f9e2ab5ce44a4d840a" alt="Global Population Crash Isn't Sci-Fi Anymore - Niall Ferguson, bloomberg" title="Global Population Crash Isn't Sci-Fi Anymore - Niall Ferguson, bloomberg" /> </a> </td><td>   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/sw1ft87ad3"> /u/sw1ft87ad3 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-03-10/global-population-collapse-isn-t-sci-fi-anymore-niall-ferguson?embedded-checkout=true">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1bbvrzi/global_population_crash_isnt_scifi_anymore_niall/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1bbvrzi2024-03-11T05:29:13+00:002024-03-11T05:29:13+00:00Global Population Crash Isn't Sci-Fi Anymore - Niall Ferguson, bloomberg/u/madrid987https://www.reddit.com/user/madrid987<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1bb3v7e/population_denialism_is_reminiscent_of_climate/"> <img src="https://external-preview.redd.it/WwE1POIFz4akq-CavsjOtYX7jPHnTpXtrqFWZ63daWU.jpg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=ada6792405804bcacc1d880e7b57011e9cabaccf" alt="Population Denialism is Reminiscent of Climate Denialism" title="Population Denialism is Reminiscent of Climate Denialism" /> </a> </td><td>   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/madrid987"> /u/madrid987 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.ipsnews.net/2023/05/population-denialism-reminiscent-climate-denialism/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1bb3v7e/population_denialism_is_reminiscent_of_climate/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1bb3v7e2024-03-10T06:45:49+00:002024-03-10T06:45:49+00:00Population Denialism is Reminiscent of Climate Denialism/u/eclipsenowhttps://www.reddit.com/user/eclipsenow<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>I enjoyed this <a href="https://youtu.be/o_mOHelAH44?si=FdXKilnP8v6lEULM">7 minute summary by PBS</a>. It's correct in that this only starts around mid century, and does not solve climate change for us. But I’m a “Bright Green” environmentalist because wind and solar are now so cheap they are doubling every 4 years or so. They are deploying faster than the Paris agreement ever dreamed! EG: Paris wanted 615 GW solar deployed annually by 2030 - but we could hit 2 or 3 TW annually! <a href="https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2023/12/25/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-one-terawatt-of-solar-deployed-annually/">https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2023/12/25/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-one-terawatt-of-solar-deployed-annually/</a></p> <p>MUCH MORE DONE WITH MUCH LESS: As we Electrify Everything (transport and industrial heat and mining and smelting) they are so efficient that ng we’ll only need 40% of the energy we use today to do the same work! It’s the difference between burning petroleum to waste 80% of it and only get 20% of it as forward motion, and using an EV charged from solar on your roof. It’s the difference between an oil tanker driving down the highway to fill up the gas station every week, and installing a solar powered off-grid EV charger once every decade! <a href="https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/electrification-energy-efficiency">https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/electrification-energy-efficiency</a></p> <p>SAVINGS: The sooner we do the Energy Transition, the sooner it pays for itself. The World Health Organisation tell us fossil fuel particulates cause $5 TRILLION a year in EXTRA health costs. Instead, this money can be used for conservation, medical, aged care and public transport initiatives.</p> <p>TAXES for WELFARE. If we get the social policy settings right, and educate and empower women across the developing world ASAP, we could see the world back to 6 billion by 2100! <a href="https://earth4all.life/the-five-extraordinary-turnarounds/">https://earth4all.life/the-five-extraordinary-turnarounds/</a></p> <p>JUST 2% OF THE OCEANS COULD FEED 12 BILLION PEOPLE all the seaweed protein powder we need while repairing the oceans. <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/01/sea-forest-better-name-seaweed-un-food-adviser">https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/01/sea-forest-better-name-seaweed-un-food-adviser</a> The seaweed powder can be a food supplement that goes in everything from dairy to bread. <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666833522000302">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666833522000302</a></p> <p>Then there’s Precision Fermentation - but that’s so amazing I don’t have time to explain it. Try this short video by Monbiot. <a href="https://youtu.be/6eaTIe_TBZA">https://youtu.be/6eaTIe_TBZA</a> Then google it.</p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/eclipsenow"> /u/eclipsenow </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1ba8nj5/pbs_has_a_nice_short_piece_on_the_expected/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1ba8nj5/pbs_has_a_nice_short_piece_on_the_expected/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1ba8nj52024-03-09T04:09:07+00:002024-03-09T04:09:07+00:00PBS has a nice short piece on the expected population crash later half of this century/u/sladebrigadehttps://www.reddit.com/user/sladebrigade<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Dear all, anyone else trying to publish letters for newspapers et.c. about overpopulation and having a hard time getting accepted? Have tried multiple times in Sweden, would be nice when maybe someone here would like to help me improve the writing and become a coauthor, Or I could assist you</p> <p>​</p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/sladebrigade"> /u/sladebrigade </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b9vq7s/coauthors_newspaper_articles/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b9vq7s/coauthors_newspaper_articles/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1b9vq7s2024-03-08T18:44:39+00:002024-03-08T18:44:39+00:00Coauthors newspaper articles?/u/XxX_datboi69_XxXhttps://www.reddit.com/user/XxX_datboi69_XxX<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Refugees coming in from Global South or even Europe to places like the US arguably exert strain on the resources of the US. Moreover, they would take up a higher GHG emission and carbon footprint unless they are coming from one of the few places with a higher emission rate per capita like the Arab Gulf states. In the end, would this cause both the natives and the immigrants to suffer because of resource strain? Barriers to immigration would not be good for people fleeing ecological disaster, but would it ultimately save those who live in countries that have a higher tolerance to climate change and food chain disruption? </p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/XxX_datboi69_XxX"> /u/XxX_datboi69_XxX </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b9fixz/when_considering_overpopulation_and_ecological/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b9fixz/when_considering_overpopulation_and_ecological/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1b9fixz2024-03-08T04:49:56+00:002024-03-08T04:49:56+00:00When considering overpopulation and ecological impact, should Western countries accept migrants?/u/PopulationMediahttps://www.reddit.com/user/PopulationMedia<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b84enf/response_to_concerns_about_low_birth_rates/"> <img src="https://external-preview.redd.it/1PZGclh5WJvgJbEImnPsUHlqmNQx-rSBYdtQlx3GajA.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=946c6fe3724ed2b9a5a1f1a43fab85b4fd8cb4ae" alt="Response to Concerns about Low Birth Rates | Population Media Center" title="Response to Concerns about Low Birth Rates | Population Media Center" /> </a> </td><td>   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/PopulationMedia"> /u/PopulationMedia </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.populationmedia.org/the-latest/response-to-concerns-about-low-birth-rates">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b84enf/response_to_concerns_about_low_birth_rates/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1b84enf2024-03-06T16:43:41+00:002024-03-06T16:43:41+00:00Response to Concerns about Low Birth Rates | Population Media Center/u/DutyEuphoric967https://www.reddit.com/user/DutyEuphoric967<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>"I’m a (censored for privacy) making $23.20 and still can’t afford even a 1-bedroom apt on my own where I live. Considering you take your pay with you when transferring, I’m wondering what some potential options could be. Open to anywhere that’s cheap but a nice place to live where people are happy"<br/> -another redditor</p> <p>Politicians: "Just poop more babies! It solves everything and save the world!"</p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/DutyEuphoric967"> /u/DutyEuphoric967 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b50jxo/politicians_and_wealthy_elites_failed_us_thanks/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b50jxo/politicians_and_wealthy_elites_failed_us_thanks/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1b50jxo2024-03-02T22:22:25+00:002024-03-02T22:22:25+00:00Politicians and wealthy elites failed us. Thanks Reagan!/u/madrid987https://www.reddit.com/user/madrid987<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Many people know that South Korea has a low birth rate recently. It seems that South Korea has finally decided to increase the birth rate with money.</p> <p>In particular, South Koreans are quite positive about this policy because they have a strong desire for a rapid rise in birth rate and population growth.</p> <p>Recently, in South Korea, in order to explosively increase the birth rate, the government, local governments, and companies are pouring in an unprecedented amount of direct cash support to pregnancy, birth, and children.</p> <p>The Korean government has decided to pay $1,000 per month in 'parental Salarys(부모급여)' to each child upon birth. In addition, it was decided to provide a child allowance of $100 per month and a child support allowance of $100 per month until the child becomes a teenager. they also implemented a policy so that if you take childcare leave, you can receive your full salary for 6 to 12 months. In addition to this, a lot of money was given directly in various items. And this amount is expected to increase in the future.</p> <p>Local governments are even more unconventional. Jecheon City planned to pay 150,000 dollars when a child is born until the child becomes an adult, and the Jeollanam-do region announced that it would continue to provide a large amount of child support in money until the child is 18 years old. This is money given separately by local governments in addition to the money given by the central government (nation). Since you receive money overlapping, the money you receive is actually more than double when you are born.</p> <p>The most unconventional place is Gangjin-gun, which has decided to pay $50,000 per child upon birth. In Gangjin-gun, this cash distribution was especially effective. Gangjin-gun caused a huge upheaval with the number of births increasing by 66% in 2023, one year after the policy was implemented (the increase in births due to external influx was quite limited).</p> <p>This has become a hot topic across South Korea, and local governments are preparing huge amounts of direct cash support to boost birth rates.</p> <p>The company's support for childbirth is even more unconventional. Recently, the boss of Booyoung, a large company, declared that he would encourage his workers to have children with a $75,000 bonus, and large corporations with deep pockets such as Samsung, Lotte, and LG promised to give huge cash to employees who give birth, and some companies offer promotions when children are born. they created a system to do this.</p> <p>South Korea's maternity support policy has become stronger than ever before in human history. There was a lot of confusion a few years ago, but recently the government has revealed its position that money is the source of increased birth rates, and a system is being created across the country that gives huge amounts of money to births in all fields.</p> <p>In reality, a system is being created where each child will directly receive 'up to $300,000 or more' when they have a birth. Of course, it will be a huge financial burden, but South Korea strongly recognizes that ultra-low birth rate is the country's biggest problem, so they are willing to accept it and create such a system.</p> <p>In particular, the rapid increase in the birth rate in Gangjin gives many South Koreans hope that money will lead to a rapid increase in the birth rate.</p> <p>​</p> <p>What do you guys think?</p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/madrid987"> /u/madrid987 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b4f5bx/south_korea_has_launched_the_worlds_most/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b4f5bx/south_korea_has_launched_the_worlds_most/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1b4f5bx2024-03-02T04:11:25+00:002024-03-02T04:11:25+00:00South Korea has launched the world's most unconventional policy to explode its birth rate and population./u/FourHand458https://www.reddit.com/user/FourHand458<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>This right here is more evidence showing that not only is the amount of habitable land for humans finite on our planet, it is slowly shrinking. This is one big reason why continuous population growth is NOT sustainable nor realistic.</p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/FourHand458"> /u/FourHand458 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/s/wUL3qiwN7R">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b44und/from_the_collapse_community_on_reddit_map_the_27/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1b44und2024-03-01T20:38:56+00:002024-03-01T20:38:56+00:00From the collapse community on Reddit: Map: The 2.7 billion at risk of death from heat with 4°C of warming/u/Alternative-Cod-7630https://www.reddit.com/user/Alternative-Cod-7630<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b0v9oi/millennials_having_fewer_kids_could_be_a_drag_on/"> <img src="https://external-preview.redd.it/nkQsw2qBdMAItmsW775VDBkFDpStplMGZ5nKJJ_fudE.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b7781bf5a752358f874d1753ecd17828b28d9a77" alt=""Millennials having fewer kids could be a drag on the economy for the next decade" (or: save the ecosystem; wreck the economy)" title=""Millennials having fewer kids could be a drag on the economy for the next decade" (or: save the ecosystem; wreck the economy)" /> </a> </td><td>   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/Alternative-Cod-7630"> /u/Alternative-Cod-7630 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/millennials-having-fewer-kids-could-214502553.html">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b0v9oi/millennials_having_fewer_kids_could_be_a_drag_on/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1b0v9oi2024-02-26T22:43:13+00:002024-02-26T22:43:13+00:00"Millennials having fewer kids could be a drag on the economy for the next decade" (or: save the ecosystem; wreck the economy)/u/sgtandrew1799https://www.reddit.com/user/sgtandrew1799<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>So, being blunt: the academic world does not agree with the idea of overpopulation. Papers are published constantly showing, empirically, that it is a myth.</p> <p><strong>One such paper in the esteemed</strong> <strong><em>Nature</em></strong>**:** <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/528322a"><strong>https://www.nature.com/articles/528322a</strong></a></p> <blockquote> <p>According to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, the rate of global food production outstrips the growth of the population. People grow enough calories in cereals alone to feed between 10 billion and 12 billion people. Yet hunger and malnutrition persist worldwide. This is because about 55% of the food grown is divided between feeding cattle, making fuel and other materials or going to waste, says Cohen. And what remains is not evenly distributed — the rich have plenty, the poor have little. Likewise, <a href="http://www.nature.com/news/the-rising-pressure-of-global-water-shortages-1.16622">water is not scarce on a global scale</a>, even though 1.2 billion people live in areas where it is.</p> </blockquote> <p><strong>Another paper in the esteemed</strong> <strong><em>The Lancet</em></strong>**, further arguing that the population will sit at a comfortable 6.29 billion by 2100:** <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7561721/"><strong>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7561721/</strong></a></p> <blockquote> <p>Our alternative scenarios suggest that meeting the Sustainable Development Goals targets for education and contraceptive met need would result in a global population of 6·29 billion (4·82–8·73) in 2100 and a population of 6·88 billion (5·27–9·51) when assuming 99th percentile rates of change in these drivers.</p> </blockquote> <p>There is a term for it: "neo-Malthusianism." Essentially, in 1789, Thomas Malthus published a treatise titled <em>An Essay on the Principle of Population</em>. In it, he argued that population grows exponentially and food production only grows linearly. This meant that eventually humans would reach a point where food production would be unable to feed the growing human population: starvation would follow, as well as wars, mass poverty, and other terrible things. The problem was that he was wrong. Food grows with the population; it is not stagnant. Despite being proven wrong, people in the modern-day continue to hold on to this myth, and therefore receive the prefix "neo" for their modern hold on an (outdated and debunked) past belief.</p> <p>Since learning about this, I have been extremely interested in learning more about overpopulation while recognizing that, as far as the academic world believes, it is a myth as prevalent as "learning styles."</p> <p>So, I was curious if any one had academic, peer-reviewed papers that I could read potentially arguing that there <em>is</em> overpopulation on a global scale. No point in not seeking out sources (however, I did before coming here and could not find any. But, that was probably my own fault).</p> <p>Frankly, this subreddit seems to simply go "Pollution = Overpopulation," or "Environmental damage = overpopulation," despite the fact that humans have been doing both of those things since our evolution. Also, this subreddit also just seems to be a smaller childfree with many of the posts.</p> <p>Anyway, I look forward to reading the replies! Thank you for your time!</p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/sgtandrew1799"> /u/sgtandrew1799 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b1906l/interested_in_learning_more_as_a_skeptic/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b1906l/interested_in_learning_more_as_a_skeptic/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1b1906l2024-02-27T10:48:16+00:002024-02-27T10:48:16+00:00Interested in Learning More as a Skeptic/u/nonmaterialgirl55https://www.reddit.com/user/nonmaterialgirl55<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>It blows my mind when people say we have an underpopulation problem and are threatened by a collapse, when its EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.</p> <p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/25/climate/mexico-city-water-crisis-climate-intl/index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/25/climate/mexico-city-water-crisis-climate-intl/index.html</a></p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/nonmaterialgirl55"> /u/nonmaterialgirl55 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b0440r/mexico_city_may_be_just_months_away_from_running/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1b0440r/mexico_city_may_be_just_months_away_from_running/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1b0440r2024-02-26T00:39:36+00:002024-02-26T00:39:36+00:00Mexico City may be just months away from running of out water | CNN/u/Alternative-Cod-7630https://www.reddit.com/user/Alternative-Cod-7630<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1azauf3/birthrate_in_uk_falls_to_record_low_as/"> <img src="https://external-preview.redd.it/EG22NkeUhIZOvLco3wMytmZ4bmNbAfaQ-2x22BvllCw.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2dbec69ef262984f72dc6a91dbd0c6586b3209cd" alt="Birthrate in UK falls to record low as campaigners say ‘procreation a luxury’" title="Birthrate in UK falls to record low as campaigners say ‘procreation a luxury’" /> </a> </td><td>   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/Alternative-Cod-7630"> /u/Alternative-Cod-7630 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/23/birthrate-in-uk-falls-to-record-low-as-campaigners-say-procreation-is-a-luxury">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1azauf3/birthrate_in_uk_falls_to_record_low_as/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1azauf32024-02-25T00:58:23+00:002024-02-25T00:58:23+00:00Birthrate in UK falls to record low as campaigners say ‘procreation a luxury’/u/kommiehttps://www.reddit.com/user/kommie<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1az5num/flow_of_ravi_water_to_pak_fully_stopped_32000_hac/"> <img src="https://external-preview.redd.it/5kz8_NMHiUeOMTK7OAP4ESakof30Z-YDyMihzqGYelQ.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0956b42369384868009a561903ff5c9baffff0cc" alt="Flow of Ravi water to Pak fully stopped, 32000 hac J&amp;K land to be irrigated" title="Flow of Ravi water to Pak fully stopped, 32000 hac J&amp;K land to be irrigated" /> </a> </td><td>   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/kommie"> /u/kommie </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/flow-of-ravi-water-to-pak-fully-stopped-32000-hac-jk-land-to-be-irrigated/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1az5num/flow_of_ravi_water_to_pak_fully_stopped_32000_hac/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1az5num2024-02-24T21:17:30+00:002024-02-24T21:17:30+00:00Flow of Ravi water to Pak fully stopped, 32000 hac J&K land to be irrigated/u/greygatchhttps://www.reddit.com/user/greygatch<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1ay4i0q/hteteotw_chapter_5_ecological_overshoot/"> <img src="https://external-preview.redd.it/J6OPMVl3I29kalpqeIxQF6aWV43TbrqGk0y0fuv1YAU.jpg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2028852c300b6e5d0c6e1c4d5d019a2cf235117e" alt="HTETEOTW Chapter 5: Ecological Overshoot" title="HTETEOTW Chapter 5: Ecological Overshoot" /> </a> </td><td>   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/greygatch"> /u/greygatch </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://youtu.be/KtQG9EiDr9k?feature=shared">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1ay4i0q/hteteotw_chapter_5_ecological_overshoot/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1ay4i0q2024-02-23T16:18:46+00:002024-02-23T16:18:46+00:00HTETEOTW Chapter 5: Ecological Overshoot/u/Routine-Bumblebee-41https://www.reddit.com/user/Routine-Bumblebee-41<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Just <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/bangalore/comments/1ax8pjj/lord_save_us_all/">one of many places</a> around the world facing water shortages due to too many people.</p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/Routine-Bumblebee-41"> /u/Routine-Bumblebee-41 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1axcp0b/still_no_recognition_of_human_overpopulation/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1axcp0b/still_no_recognition_of_human_overpopulation/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1axcp0b2024-02-22T17:50:04+00:002024-02-22T17:50:04+00:00Still no recognition of human overpopulation/u/Routine-Bumblebee-41https://www.reddit.com/user/Routine-Bumblebee-41<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>The elephant in the room -- the one thing that makes why <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/REBubble/comments/1ax8hcc/teachers_cant_afford_to_teach_in_a_town_they_live/">this is happening</a> super obvious -- is the one thing no one dares to mention: human overpopulation. </p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/Routine-Bumblebee-41"> /u/Routine-Bumblebee-41 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1axf7vs/telluride_colorado_housing_situation/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1axf7vs/telluride_colorado_housing_situation/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1axf7vs2024-02-22T19:28:26+00:002024-02-22T19:28:26+00:00Telluride, Colorado housing situation/u/thehomelessr0mantichttps://www.reddit.com/user/thehomelessr0mantic<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1awbmij/report_wildlife_populations_have_declined_by_an/"> <img src="https://preview.redd.it/8wco738gtxjc1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7b4475eb2c3fd5254474ed2cd80a82768ed21d58" alt="Report: Wildlife Populations Have Declined by an Average of 69% Over the Past 50 Years" title="Report: Wildlife Populations Have Declined by an Average of 69% Over the Past 50 Years" /> </a> </td><td>   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/thehomelessr0mantic"> /u/thehomelessr0mantic </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://i.redd.it/8wco738gtxjc1.png">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1awbmij/report_wildlife_populations_have_declined_by_an/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1awbmij2024-02-21T13:08:03+00:002024-02-21T13:08:03+00:00Report: Wildlife Populations Have Declined by an Average of 69% Over the Past 50 Years/u/antividistahttps://www.reddit.com/user/antividista<!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p><a href="https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Should_we_aim_to_reduce_the_Earth_population%3F">https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Should_we_aim_to_reduce_the_Earth_population%3F</a></p> </div><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/antividista"> /u/antividista </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1av2qx7/wikidebate_should_we_aim_to_reduce_the_earth/">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1av2qx7/wikidebate_should_we_aim_to_reduce_the_earth/">[comments]</a></span>t3_1av2qx72024-02-19T23:46:26+00:002024-02-19T23:46:26+00:00Wikidebate — Should we aim to reduce the Earth population?/u/Ruby_Rhod5https://www.reddit.com/user/Ruby_Rhod5<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1aua6yb/psychopathy/"> <img src="https://preview.redd.it/dl7hwzi8wfjc1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=fea266ea6c059df9467a7840be97c6c581b1c13a" alt="Psychopathy" title="Psychopathy" /> </a> </td><td>   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/Ruby_Rhod5"> /u/Ruby_Rhod5 </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://i.redd.it/dl7hwzi8wfjc1.png">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1aua6yb/psychopathy/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1aua6yb2024-02-19T00:49:49+00:002024-02-19T00:49:49+00:00Psychopathy/u/kommiehttps://www.reddit.com/user/kommie<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1au9b16/elon_musk/"> <img src="https://external-preview.redd.it/QwIuc-i2CZlUKzlzECcPZ9KRYdiwIT5WG2uIwn783yw.jpg?width=108&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=e2204deec2bbf12d97226afbe4d1e359f28baf90" alt="Elon Musk" title="Elon Musk" /> </a> </td><td>   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/kommie"> /u/kommie </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1759298152471863713">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1au9b16/elon_musk/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1au9b162024-02-19T00:09:36+00:002024-02-19T00:09:36+00:00Elon Musk/u/antividistahttps://www.reddit.com/user/antividista<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1atx2mt/brazils_previous_president_defended_a_rigid_birth/"> <img src="https://preview.redd.it/h80ct3047djc1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=dc287c2c4c025c1b47db91aa11b7395814e77431" alt="Brazil's previous president defended a "rigid birth control policy" in a 2008 speech" title="Brazil's previous president defended a "rigid birth control policy" in a 2008 speech" /> </a> </td><td>   submitted by   <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/antividista"> /u/antividista </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://i.redd.it/h80ct3047djc1.png">[link]</a></span>   <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/overpopulation/comments/1atx2mt/brazils_previous_president_defended_a_rigid_birth/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>t3_1atx2mt2024-02-18T15:49:11+00:002024-02-18T15:49:11+00:00Brazil's previous president defended a "rigid birth control policy" in a 2008 speech