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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" media="screen" href="/~d/styles/rss2full.xsl"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" media="screen" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~d/styles/itemcontent.css"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:feedburner="http://rssnamespace.org/feedburner/ext/1.0" version="2.0"><channel><title>Outside The Frame</title><link>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/default.aspx</link><description>Peter Keough tosses away all pretenses of objectivity, good taste and sanity and writes what he damn well pleases under the guise of a film blog.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007.1 (Build: 20917.1142)</generator><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="self" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/PHXOutsideTheFrame" type="application/rss+xml" /><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" /><item><title>Noir more than ever</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/XbjG_InHHAg/noir-more-than-ever.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:41:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:601318</guid><dc:creator>Peter Keough</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=601318</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/11/11/noir-more-than-ever.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/shooting%20swatheTownFBI.JPG" style="width:450px;height:412px;" alt="" align="middle" border="" hspace="5" /&gt;

&lt;p&gt;People in the Fenway, where I live, have gotten pretty blasé
this fall about big movie crews shooting in the neighborhood. One weekend &amp;quot;The
Zookeeper&amp;quot; was shooting late at night a couple of blocks away and it
seems every week the helicopters, swat teams, police vehicles and light towers
of Ben Affleck&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.loadedgunboston.com/2009/09/ben-afflecks-town-hitting-bostons.htm"&gt;The Town&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; have
taken over the streets around the ball park. So when I was walking home the
other day and saw Kilmarnock St.
shut down by &amp;quot;cops&amp;quot; from Peterborough to Queensberry, I thought, here we go
again, and looked around for the catering van to see if I could swipe a cookie
or a slice of pizza.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Turns out that it wasn&amp;#39;t a film crew after all. Two guys in
masks robbed the Boston Taxi office of several thousand dollars. One was
apprehended, the other is still at large. The guy they caught turns out to be a
three time loser out on parole for a life sentence he was supposed to be serving for
manslaughter and second degree murder convictions. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Scary. But if you really want to be scared read the
bloodthirsty comments following the &lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/11/by_john_r_ellem_24.html"&gt;story reporting the robbery&lt;/a&gt;. I.e:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;If we just waste these &amp;quot;types&amp;quot; then we won&amp;#39;t have
over crowding in the prisons. I&amp;#39;ll be there to throw the switch if we need
volunteers.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;and:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Clearly Gerald Hill misses rough prison love and that&amp;#39;s why
he committed this senseless crime.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;and: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;He did it so he could a free swine flu shot and you morons
want the corrupt democratic goverment to handle your healthcare , sad and sick.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;and:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Lets torture these prisoneers so they will be miserable
when they get out (as most do) and murder some poor S.O.B helping us decrease
the surface population. &lt;br /&gt;
Forget about healthcare because people in crowds like schools and prison get
disease&amp;#39;s easier deserve to sufer like in the former USSR.&lt;br /&gt;
Lets prove what the we call Mideast Terrorist that we are the true SOBS they
claim we are. And lets prove to the rest of the world we have NO humanity too.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#39;ll show them. Actually, I think the last one was putting us on. But I&amp;#39;m sure there a lot of readers out there nodding their heads.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The dominant concern seems to be that the death penalty should be used to provide more room in prisons for other evil doers,&amp;nbsp; like the Muslims
and Liberals and Democratics. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And this is the &amp;quot;Globe,&amp;quot; mind you. I
shudder to think what cheerful thoughts the readers at the &amp;quot;Herald&amp;quot; are sharing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=601318" width="1" height="1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~4/XbjG_InHHAg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><feedburner:origLink>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/11/11/noir-more-than-ever.aspx</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>Sleep depraved</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/0GEjota-NP8/sleep-depraved.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:05:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:597755</guid><dc:creator>Peter Keough</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=597755</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/11/06/sleep-depraved.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="HTTP://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/sleepcarol.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="301" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;After writing about &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/Boston/Movies/92335-DISNEYS-A-CHRISTMAS-CAROL/"&gt;Disney&amp;#39;s A Christmas
Carol&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; earlier
this week, I fell into a cold sweat, a panic attack as if I was about to
remember something I was trying to forget. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Details of that movie - the dim sense of
hideous entities invading the bedroom, the flashing lights, the feeling of
being lifted bodily from under the covers to some horrifying destination -
touched on something repressed and dreadful.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; I had experienced these things before.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/sleephe_fourth_kind.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="344" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then I remembered: it was from the trailer for
&amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/Boston/Movies/92340-FOURTH-KIND/%20"&gt;The Fourth Kind&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (I
haven&amp;#39;t seen the movie; are you kidding?), in which post-Whitley Streiber
ETs&amp;nbsp; have their way with slumbering
Alaskans (insert Sarah Palin joke here). And not just that, but also
&amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/Boston/Movies/91120-Paranormal-Activity/"&gt;Paranormal Activities&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;quot; the &amp;quot;Blair Witch&amp;quot;-ish&amp;nbsp;
horror movie in which a yuppie-fied young couple record on video inexplicable
nocturnal visitations.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/sleepparanormal-activity-whatisthat.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="281" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Clearly there is a trend in recent movies
tapping into a fear of -- or desire for? -- things that go bump in the night
while the rest of the world is asleep and vulnerable.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What does it mean? Socialism would be my
guess. That Maoist Obama regime lulling us to sleep with sweet talk and Health
Care lullabies so they can give us the ultimate anal probe of a full-blown
Marxist dictatorship. Just remember that I warned you. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=597755" width="1" height="1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~4/0GEjota-NP8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><feedburner:origLink>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/11/06/sleep-depraved.aspx</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>A Christmas Cartel</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/4HfHovNQaZo/a-christmas-cartel.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:41:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:595994</guid><dc:creator>Peter Keough</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=595994</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/11/04/a-christmas-cartel.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/cartel%20life.jpg" alt="`" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="294" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did you ever notice how all the classic Holiday movies are about capitalism? Not surprising given
the fact that the season is the epitome of consumer culture, an annual shopping
spree which, this year more than ever, sustains our economy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And so we have&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038650/%20"&gt; It&amp;#39;s a Wonderful Life&lt;/a&gt; (1946), the Frank Capra perennial which centers around a systemic financial failure,
the distraught and suicidal owner of an insolvent building and loan company,
and a conniving capitalist eager&amp;nbsp; to reap
profit from the misery of others. Sounds timely.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034862/%20"&gt;Holiday Inn&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (1942) and its remake of sorts, &lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047673/"&gt;White Christmas&lt;/a&gt; (1954),
in which holiday spirit, the crooning of Bing Crosby, and the music of Irving
Berlin prove a money maker in the hotel resort industry.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/cartelmiracle_1461282c.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="282" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039628/i"&gt;Miracle on 34th St&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (1947), in
which St. Nick&amp;#39;s honesty and charity turn out to be a brilliant marketing concept
for a giant New York City department store.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But maybe the ultimate expression of the
capital/labor class struggle is the beloved Charles Dickens&amp;#39;s chestnut &amp;quot;A
Christmas Carol&amp;quot; in which the ultimate ruthless capitalist squeezes dry Bob Cratchit, the
epitome of the exploited proletariat, and gets a supernatural comeuppance for
his trouble. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For how this works in the real world you
might take a look at &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/Boston/Movies/91992-AMERICAN-CASINO/%20"&gt;American Casino&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;quot; which is kind like Michael Moore&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;Capitalism: A Love Story&amp;quot;
without the humor but with facts (it plays this week at the Brattle Theatre).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Otherwise you can dip into the endless
catalogue of &amp;quot;A Christmas Carol&amp;quot; movie adaptations - over two dozen since the
first one in 1908. I&amp;#39;d recommend &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044008/"&gt;Scrooge&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (1951) with
Alastair Sim. &amp;quot;Mister Magoo&amp;#39;s Christmas Carol&amp;quot; (1962)&amp;nbsp;
is pretty good too and also the&lt;a href="http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19881123/REVIEWS/811230302/1023"&gt; much maligned&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096061/"&gt;Scrooged&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (1988) with Bill Murray.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/cartel%20simgraveA%20Christmas%20Carol%20DVD2.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="344" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; But
steer clear of the new one from &lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/Boston/Movies/92335-DISNEYS-A-CHRISTMAS-CAROL/"&gt;Robert Zemeckis&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;
Save your money and read the book aloud to your kids instead.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;



&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=595994" width="1" height="1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~4/4HfHovNQaZo" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><feedburner:origLink>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/11/04/a-christmas-cartel.aspx</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>The Boston Palestine Film Festival 2009: "Laila's Birthday"</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/Vf8ZnvOahzQ/the-boston-palestine-film-festival-2009-quot-laila-s-birthday-quot.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:28:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:591342</guid><dc:creator>Peter Keough</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=591342</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/30/the-boston-palestine-film-festival-2009-quot-laila-s-birthday-quot.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/LailasBirthday--.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="317" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The harried hero (Mohammed Bakri) of Rashid Masharawi&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;Laila&amp;#39;s
Birthday&amp;quot; has a few simple rules when it comes to people using his cab. First, put
on the seatbelt if you&amp;#39;re in the front seat. Second, no smoking. Third, no
checkpoints. And finally, absolutely no automatic weapons. &amp;quot;You&amp;#39;re robbing
yourself!&amp;quot; says one would-be customer toting an AK-47. &amp;quot;Half the people in
Ramallah carry guns. The other half can&amp;#39;t afford taxis!&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So goes another day in the life of a cab driver in Palestine. Unlike most,
perhaps, this driver is also a judge. Invited by the Palestinians to relocate
from his successful post in a neighboring Arab country to serve in their
Ministry of Justice (&amp;quot;We have a Ministry of Justice?&amp;quot; asks one fare), he&amp;#39;s been
enduring a Kafka-esque ordeal waiting for months for his appointment to be
confirmed because the government keeps changing. In the meantime he makes a
living by driving his brother-in-law&amp;#39;s cab. He&amp;#39;s frustrated and stressed out,
so no wonder his wife must remind him that it&amp;#39;s his 7-year-old daughter Laila&amp;#39;s
birthday and he must return home from work in time to celebrate, bringing a
present and a cake.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#39;s the premise: the cabbie must survive the absurd trials of
a day on the meter in Ramallah and make it back home to sing &amp;quot;Happy Birthday&amp;quot;
by 8 p.m. As such the film serves as a window into life under the Israeli
occupation - but without a single Israeli in sight, only the off-screen roar of
hovering helicopters and passing jets. Instead, Masharawi focuses on the Palestinians
themselves, how they might ameliorate the situation, contrasting their
ineffectual demands for freedom with their unwillingness in some cases to obey
simple traffic regulations.&amp;nbsp; In a
climactic rant through a police bullhorn, the cabbie does give a shout out to
the occupiers, but mostly the film demands that the Palestinians themselves
seize their own destiny.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Though barely over an hour long, &amp;quot;Laila&amp;#39;s Birthday&amp;quot; makes a
powerful impression, partly through Masharawi&amp;#39;s shrewd and concise cinema
verité style, employing tracking shots and mise-en-scene reminiscent of Abbas
Kiarostami (and also of Hany Abu-Assad&amp;#39;s extraordinary 2003 documentary &amp;quot;Ford
Transit&amp;quot;). Not to mention Bakri&amp;#39;s intense, eloquent performance,&amp;nbsp; conveying through sheer body language
hardship, dignity, and rage.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/leila%20bear.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="337" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;It seems almost too much to bear. Somehow, though, you suspect that Mashawari&amp;#39;s simple decency and rueful whimsy will prevail.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It &lt;a href="http://bostonpalestine.bside.com/2009/films/lailasbirthdayeidmiladlaila_bostonpalestine2009"&gt;screens &lt;/a&gt;this
Sunday, November 1 at&amp;nbsp; 5 pm at the Museum of Fine Arts to conclude this year&amp;#39;s Boston
Palestine Film Festival. A panel discussion on the film and on Palestinian
filmmaking in general follows.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=591342" width="1" height="1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~4/Vf8ZnvOahzQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><feedburner:origLink>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/30/the-boston-palestine-film-festival-2009-quot-laila-s-birthday-quot.aspx</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>Von Trier: Willem Dafoe's penis "too big" for Antichrist</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/QudBtNkEyuI/von-trier-willem-dafoe-s-penis-quot-too-big-quot-for-antichrist.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:31:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:589144</guid><dc:creator>Carly Carioli</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=589144</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/28/von-trier-willem-dafoe-s-penis-quot-too-big-quot-for-antichrist.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;We suspect some of you may have missed the salient segment of &lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/Boston/Movies/91504-Interview-Lars-von-Trier-of-Antichrist/" target="_blank"&gt;Peter Keough&amp;#39;s interview with &lt;i&gt;Antichrist &lt;/i&gt;director Lars Von Trier this week&lt;/a&gt;, in which he revealed that Willem Dafoe required a stunt-cock for the film. And not, as in the case of &lt;a href="http://www.markwahlberg.com/filmography/boogie-nights-interview1.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;Marky Wahlberg in &lt;i&gt;Boogie Nights&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, because his member was insufficient for the part, but for the opposite reason: Dafoe&amp;#39;s dick is just way too fucking huge:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="bodyText"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Willem Dafoe — and I think you&amp;#39;ve mentioned this before — plays probably the worst therapist in the history of movies.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
First of all, I have been undergoing this cognitive therapy for three
years, and I tend to get sarcastic about it. One of the main ideas
behind the treatment is that a fear is a thought, and a thought doesn’t
change reality. But you can say in the film that it’s changed reality.
As for Dafoe, I wouldn’t let him treat her in any other way than with
his dick; he has an enormous dick. We had to take those scenes out of
the film. We had a stand-in for him because we had to take the scenes
out with his own dick.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="bodyText"&gt;&lt;b&gt;You had a stand-in dick for Dafoe?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

We had to, because Will’s was too big.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="bodyText"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Too big to fit on the screen?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

No, too big because everybody got very confused when they saw it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why the confusion? Perhaps this: very small man, very big dick. We had the opportunity to meet Dafoe briefly earlier this year when he came to the Brattle Theater. Dafoe, it turns out, is short: we&amp;#39;re guessing he&amp;#39;d be five-five in heels. Who says big things can&amp;#39;t come in small packages?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=589144" width="1" height="1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~4/QudBtNkEyuI" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><category domain="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/tags/Lars+Von+Trier/default.aspx">Lars Von Trier</category><category domain="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/tags/film/default.aspx">film</category><category domain="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/tags/Willem+Dafoe/default.aspx">Willem Dafoe</category><category domain="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/tags/movie_3A00_The+Antichrist/default.aspx">movie:The Antichrist</category><feedburner:origLink>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/28/von-trier-willem-dafoe-s-penis-quot-too-big-quot-for-antichrist.aspx</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>More noir: the Columbia Noir Classics on DVD (vol. 1)</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/9nMPhdnpipc/more-noir-the-columbia-noir-classics-on-dvd-vol-1.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:03:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:588531</guid><dc:creator>Peter Keough</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=588531</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/27/more-noir-the-columbia-noir-classics-on-dvd-vol-1.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/Columbia%20Pictures%20Film%20Noir%20Classics%20I%20DVD%20Box%20Art.JPG" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="459" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;After writing the onerous article on &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/Portland/Movies/91670-Hardboiled-hub/"&gt;Boston Noir&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; and attending
the &amp;quot;Boston Noir&amp;quot; book launch/reading at the Boston Book Festival (&lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/phlog/archive/2009/10/27/podcast-dennis-lehane-on-boston-noir-from-the-boston-book-festival.aspx"&gt;Dennis
Lehane should host a talk show; he&amp;#39;s hilarious&lt;/a&gt;) I thought I&amp;#39;d fill in the gaps
in my noir knowledge by checking out the &lt;a href="http://www.film-foundation.org/common/news/articles/detail.cfm?Classification=news&amp;amp;QID=6928&amp;amp;ClientID=11004&amp;amp;BrowseFlag=1&amp;amp;Keyword=&amp;amp;StartRow=1&amp;amp;TopicID=0&amp;amp;Subsection=&amp;amp;ThisPage=0"&gt;Columbia Film Noir Classics I&lt;/a&gt;
($59.95)&amp;nbsp;
box set of&amp;nbsp; five 50s B-ish films from that
genre,&amp;nbsp; to be released by Sony and the
Film Foundation. And indeed, it was an eye-opener. Who knew these movies were
so gay?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Like kinky Fritz Lang&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045555/"&gt;The
Big Heat&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (1953), the best known of the bunch. Why is Lee Marvin&amp;#39;s psycho Vince
Stone so pissed off at women? The hot coffee in Gloria Grahame&amp;#39;s &amp;nbsp;face scene still packs a wallop, but while watching
it this time in the context of some of the other films in the collection it
occurred to me that perhaps one motive for such viciousness is repressed
homosexuality. In a society (the 50s) where gayness is brutally repressed, no
wonder sexually tormented guys like Vince take it out on dames and just about
everyone else. I haven&amp;#39;t had a chance to tune in to the commentaries by Martin
Scorsese and Michael Mann. Maybe they shed light on the matter.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/columbia5%20Against%20the%20House.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="359" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, nobody bothered to comment on the DVD of &amp;nbsp;Phil Karlson&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048077/%20"&gt;5 Against the House&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;quot; Understandably so, because it&amp;#39;s kind of
a bland (surprising since it&amp;#39;s based on a novel by Jack Finney of &amp;quot;Invasion of
the Body Snatchers&amp;quot; fame) and confused item somewhere between &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038369/"&gt;The Blue Dahlia&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;
(1946) and &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054135/"&gt;Oceans Eleven&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (1960). So I&amp;#39;ll
put &amp;nbsp;in my two cents worth. In it four
veterans from the Korean War, now attending &amp;quot;Northwest&amp;quot; University, get caught
up in a scheme to rob a Reno
casino. Unfortunately, one of them, sweaty, baby-faced &amp;quot;Brick&amp;quot; played by Brian
Keith, is a bit of a psycho, ostensibly from battlefield trauma. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/a5AgainstTheHouse33.JPG" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="361" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I think there might be something else to it. First of all,
the four pals are maybe a little too tightly knit, their banter at times
weirdly double entendre-ish (and mostly annoying), plus their enslaving/hazing
of a freshman named Speedy seems a little unwholesome. Then there&amp;#39;s the tension
when the best looking guy in the bunch, Al, &amp;nbsp;played by Guy Madison, starts two-timing the
group by getting cozy with a nightclub singer played by Kim Novak. That&amp;#39;s when
old Brick starts getting the homicidal heebie-jeebies. I see it as psychopathic
jealousy and homosexual panic. I mean, just look at Madison in the cowboy suit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/columbiaineup.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="337" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Speaking of Brian Keith, his wizened father Robert plays one of a
pair of mob hit men in Don Siegel&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051866/"&gt;The Lineup&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (1958) .
He&amp;#39;s Julian, the older, wiser, but no less sociopathic member of the team and
he has his hands full with Dancer, played by a brilliant Eli Wallach who must
have been an inspiration for Joe Pesci in &amp;quot;GoodFellas&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Casino.&amp;quot; A key
scene occurs in a steam room with a sailor. As one of the DVD commentators, Eddie
Muller of the Film Noir Foundation &amp;nbsp;observes, at this point the subtext is no
longer just suggested. The other commentator is the great crime novelist James
Ellroy, and let&amp;#39;s just say he seriously competes with the
characters on screen for down-the-road-wacko-ness. Sheesh! No wonder the studio
put up a disclaimer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/columbiasniper.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="324" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for the two others, in Edward Dmytryk&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045161/"&gt;The Sniper&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (1952)
the title psycho can&amp;#39;t control a compulsion to pop errant women who resemble
his mother with his military issue M-1. It stars Adolphe Menjou as &amp;quot;Lt. Frank
Kafka.&amp;quot; One of the more striking images involves an extreme long shot of a tiny
man dangling from a huge smokestack. Phallic symbol, anyone? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/columbiamurder-contract-barber.png" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="345" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Finally, Irving Lerner&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051959/"&gt;Murder by Contract&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (1958) has
Vince Edwards (remember &amp;quot;Ben Casey?&amp;quot; there&amp;#39;s even a sequence here with him
dressed up like a doctor) as a hit man whose single-minded dedication to his
craft (in his commentary Scorsese explains how the film influenced &amp;quot;Taxi
Driver&amp;quot;) works fine until he&amp;#39;s given a contract on a woman. Unlike the other
guys, he doesn&amp;#39;t like it at all. &lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp;





&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=588531" width="1" height="1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~4/9nMPhdnpipc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><feedburner:origLink>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/27/more-noir-the-columbia-noir-classics-on-dvd-vol-1.aspx</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>The Boston Palestine Film Festival</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/k7iWDC7nf70/the-boston-palestine-film-festival.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:18:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:586178</guid><dc:creator>Peter Keough</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=586178</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/23/the-boston-palestine-film-festival.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/palffamrad_poster11.jpg" style="width:450px;height:264px;" alt="" align="middle" border="" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The ongoing &lt;a href="http://www.bostonpalestinefilmfest.org/%20"&gt;Boston Palestine Film Festival &lt;/a&gt;(Oct. 16-Nov. 1) and the upcoming&lt;a href="http://www.bjff.org/"&gt; Boston Jewish
Film Festival&lt;/a&gt; (Nov. 4-15) take place, presumably
coincidentally, almost back to back. David Ridgen and Nicolas Rossier&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;American
Radical: The Trials of Norman Finkelstein,&amp;quot; which screens as part of the Palestine
Festival tonight at 8:30 pm at the Museum
 of Fine Arts (the
festival&amp;#39;s other venues include The Coolidge Corner Theatre, the Harvard Film
Archive and others), would be an appropriate selection for both. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not that the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein"&gt;title academic and political firebrand&lt;/a&gt;
is the type to resolve differences - indeed, he has stirred passionate
controversy and divisive opinions for some 25 years with such books as &amp;quot;The
Holocaust Industry&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Beyond Chutzpah.&amp;quot; The son of Holocaust survivors, Finkelstein
argues that Israel in its
dealings with Palestine
should not employ Nazi tactics and that the Holocaust should not be exploited
to further a political agenda.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The fiery response such ideas arouse are recorded by the
filmmakers as they follow the charismatic and intense academic and activist (in
the Hollywood version I see John Malkovich cast in the role) to various appearances
and debates from 2000-2008 and in cities ranging from Beirut
to Montreal. Though
siding with their subject, Ridgen and Rossier allow equal time for his
detractors, such as Rabbi David Olesker and Alan Dershowitz. Even Finkelstein&amp;#39;s
mentor Noam Chomsky acknowledges that Finkelstein might be too caustic for his
own good, and notes that, in an infamous incident, his accusing Dershowitz of
plagiarism was an unfortunate distraction. Indeed, it might have cost him his
tenure at DePaul University, which appears to be a case
of silencing an alleged anti-Israeli voice through the anti-American
suppression of free speech.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In short, &amp;quot;American Radical&amp;quot; will stimulate discussion about one
of the day&amp;#39;s most important issues. Surely the sign of a significant film and
of a worthwhile film festival.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;PS:It looks like Norman Finkelstein will be attending the screening. Should be an interesting evening.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=586178" width="1" height="1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~4/k7iWDC7nf70" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><feedburner:origLink>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/23/the-boston-palestine-film-festival.aspx</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>Interview with Lars von Trier, part 2</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/_ZX6-99SX-Q/interview-with-lars-von-trier-part-2.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:46:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:585716</guid><dc:creator>Peter Keough</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=585716</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/22/interview-with-lars-von-trier-part-2.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/LVT-am-great-710780.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="338" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In which Lars von Trier explains which fox to trust:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;PK: The fox I heard came to you in a shamanistic journey? Is
that true?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
(laughs) That&amp;#39;s right. Yes I did from time to time these shamanistic things. It&amp;#39;s
a very long story, but it had to do with someone from my family being in the
hospital, and was dying, and then I read somewhere that by means of these
shamans in Brazilian tribes, you could kind of travel for another person. And
that is what I did for my family member, who was very fond of foxes. So I went
to talk to some foxes. And then there was this interesting thing that was not
in the film, and that is that the first the first fox I met behaved like the
one in the film, but afterwards, I met some other foxes, and they said, ‘never
trust the first fox you meet.&amp;#39;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Meaning the one that said &amp;quot;chaos reigns,&amp;quot; right? So
which fox do you trust?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
(laughs) I trust the one with the chaos.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Did you know that that phrase is becoming a kind of
catch-phrase?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yes. I saw something on &lt;a href="http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2009/10/16/anti-christ_chaos_reigns/"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt; that looked very funny, yes. Great.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Somebody online also suggested that you can market the
three beggars as like merchandised toys or something like that. Has anything
like that ever occurred to you? Like having merchandised figures out of those
creatures, of the three beggars, the fox and the deer, and the-is it a raven or
a crow?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yeah it is supposed to be a crow but we could only get a raven. (laughs)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Yeah. Edgar Allan Poe reference there, right? Because it
is despair, right?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yeah. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Is it true that there&amp;#39;s a &lt;a href="http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/antichrist_eden_cover.jpg&amp;amp;imgrefurl=http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/06/17/wtf-lars-von-triers-antichristthe-video-game/&amp;amp;usg=__Bx8GYoDmWy_7mliaEx1KzqVCeKU=&amp;amp;h=778&amp;amp;w=550&amp;amp;sz=248&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;start=23&amp;amp;tbnid=k1PY9leatfOozM:&amp;amp;tbnh=142&amp;amp;tbnw=100&amp;amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3DAntichrist%2Bvon%2BTrier%26as_st%3Dy%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D20"&gt;video game&lt;/a&gt; of this movie? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/antichrist_eden_videogame.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="227" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
It doesn&amp;#39;t exist yet but I know that they&amp;#39;re working on something.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Who&amp;#39;s working on it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Um, not me. You know when I make a film it&amp;#39;s quite important that people see
the original, and then what they do with it afterwards I can&amp;#39;t control. So I&amp;#39;m,
no, I wouldn&amp;#39;t work on the game.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: It seems like a kind of difficult game, I would imagine.
A lot of that stuff you don&amp;#39;t want to do at home. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: There are a number of films that have been coming out
lately-and this probably is remote to your filmmaking, but there&amp;#39;s a film
coming out that&amp;#39;s called &amp;quot;2012,&amp;quot; there&amp;#39;s another one called &amp;quot;Legion,&amp;quot; there&amp;#39;s
&amp;quot;The Road;&amp;quot; there seems to be like a lot of films about the end of the world
and the apocalypse. Do you think your film draws on that kind of zeitgeist?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
&amp;quot;Zeitgeist,&amp;quot; yeah. Probably. But I remember a lot of films about the end of the
world earlier, also. During another period. The disaster films. And I can only
say that this film [&amp;quot;Planet Melancholia&amp;quot;] that what I am going to do is going
to be the real end. Nobody is going to survive, you know. Normally there&amp;#39;s a
couple of people that will survive in a cave somewhere. Not in my film. No no
no.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: You did a film similar to that, &amp;quot;Epidemic,&amp;quot; a while ago.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Oh yeah that&amp;#39;s right. It must be zeitgeist. But that&amp;#39;s zeitgeist from some time
ago.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Yeah. But is it going to be your last film? If you wipe
out the entire human race, will you go on from there? A fresh start?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yeah, you can say that. But you have to start with these little-it&amp;#39;s something
called &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromatolite"&gt;stromatolites&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; [?]. These little
bacteria form that live for three billion years.These special kind of bacteria. If you went there with a camera to film, it
would have taken you three billion years to get just a little action.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: And then you&amp;#39;d probably regret it, too. I think that
three or four of your last films have been set in America, but you&amp;#39;ve never traveled
to this country. What is the reason for that?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
First of all because I&amp;#39;m afraid of travelling and the travels I&amp;#39;ve done have
not been very successful. To me, you know, 80% of the films that I like and
that I&amp;#39;ve seen have been American. So to me, America, since I have not been
there, is some kind of a ‘film-land,&amp;#39; you know. So I can do almost what I want
to because I don&amp;#39;t know the place. I think the next one will not be in America, but of
course for a film to be marketable it must be in English or American, I&amp;#39;m just
not comfortable with setting it in a country with a different language.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: And it&amp;#39;s usually in the Northwest, too. The Pacific Northwest.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yes. That&amp;#39;s because somebody told me that it could look like Scandinavia.
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: With &amp;quot;Twin Peaks,&amp;quot; that
wasn&amp;#39;t in the Northwest, was it? That was one of your favorite movies, or, TV
shows.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Oh yeah, I believe it was. Or maybe it wasn&amp;#39;t. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: One of the prizes that the film received at Cannes was kind of ironic.
It was the &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/05/26/cannes-of-worms.aspx"&gt;anti-prize&amp;quot; from the Ecumenical jury&lt;/a&gt;. Do they actually give you
some sort of trophy for that?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
No, I didn&amp;#39;t even know about that, but I&amp;#39;m proud to win it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: I thought it was a bit hypocritical because the head of
the jury was somebody who worked with Marco Ferreri, who had done &amp;quot;The Last
Woman,&amp;quot; which involved Gerard Depardieu in a scene similar to one in your
movie. Why do you think people get so worked up about your film, but that one I
don&amp;#39;t recall having so much controversy attached to it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
That was in another time, you know. There was a lot of nudity and violence and
ecstasy in the seventies, wasn&amp;#39;t there?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Would you have preferred to make movies back then? There
seemed to be a more open, creative, atmosphere for filmmakers all over the
world, including the United
  States.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
No, I would say that the only trick I have up my sleeve is to take something
from back then and show it today. So no no, if I had done it then, I would have
disappeared, you know. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: The film that&amp;#39;s coming out here around Halloween, do you
have a similar holiday in Denmark?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
We are getting more and more Halloween. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: &amp;quot;Saw VI&amp;quot; is opening the same week. I&amp;#39;ve described
Antichrist as &amp;quot;Saw VI&amp;quot; as directed by Carl Dreyer. Is that accurate?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs//blogs/outsidetheframe/lvtsaw-vi-one-sheet.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="667" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yeah, very precise.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Do you think of this as an artier kind of slasher film?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
I would always be proud that any film that Carl Dreyer would have made I would
have liked to be compared to. I believe these films, are they something called
torture-porn? They are torture-porn. Well it&amp;#39;s nothing I watch myself, you
know, the torture-porn, but I like to mix different ingredients from different
genres into a film. I don&amp;#39;t have a kind of moral thing about torture-porn or
porn altogether. I believe that anything you can imagine you could show. But of
course I have children also. But in principle I think you can show anything.&lt;i&gt;...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: I was surprised to learn that you converted to
Catholicism in 1995? Do you still practice that?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
No. I converted because I was a-religious before and after some years you tend
to be more and more like your mother and father, and they were atheists by
belief, so I&amp;#39;m a poor Catholic.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: But do you believe in redemption?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Ah, that&amp;#39;s a long question. Yes, let&amp;#39;s say.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Oh, what a relief! Happy Halloween!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=585716" width="1" height="1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~4/_ZX6-99SX-Q" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><feedburner:origLink>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/22/interview-with-lars-von-trier-part-2.aspx</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>Interview with Lars von Trier</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/3Tx8Wv7ACd4/interview-with-lars-von-trier.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:584950</guid><dc:creator>Peter Keough</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=584950</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/21/interview-with-lars-von-trier.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lars_von_trier.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="266" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A while ago we were wondering how Lars von Trier was doing
because it had been reported that he was &lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/Blogs/outsidetheframe/archive/2007/05/18/von-trier-depressed-antichrist-left-waiting.aspx"&gt;very depressed&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/a&gt;and felt like quitting movies. But now he&amp;#39;s back with his &lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/Boston/Movies/91503-ANTICHRIST/"&gt;most offensive movie&lt;/a&gt; to
date and he&amp;#39;s still depressed and so is everyone who watches it! But let him do
the talking. Oh, and there are SPOILERS. Like that scene with Bill Murray...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: How are you doing today?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
I&amp;#39;m actually okay. Today is an okay day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: That&amp;#39;s good. It&amp;#39;s hit or miss, huh?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
(laughs) Yeah, sometimes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Would you recommend making a movie like this as a
treatment for depression?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Uh, yeah, well my treatment was more the work than the subject, if you
understand what I mean. Just to get out of bed and do something. So, yeah I
think I would recommend it. I don&amp;#39;t know how many people have the opportunity,
you know, to do a film to get cured. There would be a lot of films made.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: I bet, yeah. It&amp;#39;s better than Prozac, though, I imagine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yeah, Prozac is also good. But the problem about Prozac is it doesn&amp;#39;t continue
being good, you know? It holds for a couple of years.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Yeah. Well, um, it seems like the subject of the film
also is like conducive to treating depression. Like the &amp;quot;He&amp;quot; character, the
film sort of confronts things that are terrifying and tries to make them less
terrifying. Is that correct?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
The idea is normally when you panic, then your thoughts never get to your
brain. You know, you panic before you think. And the idea is to think as soon
as possible and then say to yourself, &amp;quot;Last time this happened, I was okay
after a while so maybe I will be okay again after a while.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: So that&amp;#39;s the therapy that the William Dafoe character
is trying to apply to his wife.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yes, yes. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: And are you trying to. like, confront the things that
terrify you by making this movie?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yes, I am trying to. It&amp;#39;s easier said than done, you know. The end goal is of
course to confront it, you know, to endure the full anxiety, and you know, get
all the way over &amp;nbsp;for half an hour, but
it&amp;#39;s a painful half an hour. I don&amp;#39;t know if you have anxieties yourself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK:. Um, would you say that you&amp;#39;re more depressed after the
film given some of the responses? Has that made you depressed also?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
No, no, no, no. I&amp;#39;m fine with...you know, as I see it, some people like the film,
some people don&amp;#39;t. That is fine; I&amp;#39;m not trying to make a very broad film as
you might know if you&amp;#39;ve seen other stuff I&amp;#39;ve done. No, no, it&amp;#39;s fine. And it
helped to get out, you know, I&amp;#39;m out of bed at the moment. So no, I&amp;#39;m quite
content. So now the only problem is I&amp;#39;m supposed, or people would like to see
me make another film, or some people would. So that&amp;#39;s what I&amp;#39;m working on.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Your new film is &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/oct/12/lars-von-trier-planet-melancholia"&gt;Planet Melancholia?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lvtPlanetMelancholiaCloseToEarth.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="191" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yeah, it&amp;#39;s, we call the film ‘Melancholia&amp;#39; even though there&amp;#39;s a lot of films
with the same name, but, yeah. A lot of directors use the same title. And it&amp;#39;s
with planets.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: &amp;quot;Antichrist&amp;quot; is dedicated to &lt;a href="http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/movies/documents/02702234.htm"&gt;Tarkovsky&lt;/a&gt;; is your upcoming
movie kind of like Tarkovsky&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;Solaris?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
I&amp;#39;m very, very fond of Tarkovsky, especially &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072443/"&gt;The Mirror&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;quot; I think he became a
little weaker when he came to Western Europe. But
&amp;quot;Solaris&amp;quot; is also a favorite of mine; I just re-saw a little of it again, yeah.
If there&amp;#39;s a film I would have liked to have made, it would have been &amp;quot;Solaris,&amp;quot;
yes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lvtmirror_std.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="337" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Is Planet Melancholia a happier place than Eden [the cabin where the
couple in &amp;quot;Antichrist&amp;quot; go for the depression cure]?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
(laughs) I&amp;#39;m afraid there are no really happy places in my films. You know,
Planet Melancholia is a black planet, which it had to be for itto be very close
to Earth without being detected. It&amp;#39;s a long story. It&amp;#39;s not a happier place. I
wouldn&amp;#39;t recommend you go to Planet Melancholia.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: &amp;quot;Antichrist&amp;quot; reminded me of other films that you&amp;#39;ve
done. Like &amp;quot;Medea&lt;i&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;This seems to be like an alternative
version of that earlier film.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lvtmedea.jpg" alt="" width="451" align="middle" border="" height="338" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
I&amp;#39;m not very fond of &amp;quot;Medea,&amp;quot; the way I did it. But that&amp;#39;s interesting. Maybe
you can compare them because of the nature photography, in both of them, which
we used quite a lot. But the &amp;quot;Medea&amp;quot; I did was from a script by Carl Dreyer. No,
it&amp;#39;s not my favorite.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Sorry to bring it up. But the theme of the woman who is
wronged by a very sort of calculating man, and then responds in a very violent
way, seems similar to the one in this film.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
I can see that. I have thought about it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Are you tired of people asking about misogyny? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
No. My one problem is that it&amp;#39;s so difficult to pronounce that I try to avoid
the word, you know? No - it&amp;#39;s like kind of deciding to hate elephants. That&amp;#39;s
kind of ridiculous, you know. You can hate the one elephant that&amp;#39;s after you,
but hating elephants in general is kind of silly. I made many films with women
and about women so no. Yeah, people tend to ask me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: I thought your best response to that question was that
you identify with the woman characters in your film.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
I think that is right. I think that the female characters in my film are more
believable than the male characters. The male characters just tend to be
idiots, all of them doing something completely wrong. And whereas the women
just tend to follow their nature somehow. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: William Dafoe, and I think you&amp;#39;ve mentioned this in another
&amp;nbsp;interview, is probably the worst
therapist in the history of movies. How would you advise him to treat the
Charlotte Gainsborough character, and what does he do wrong?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yeah, first of all, I have been undergoing this &lt;a href="http://www.psychologyinfo.com/depression/cognitive.htm"&gt;cognitive therapy &lt;/a&gt;for
three years, and I think it&amp;#39;s quite typical for me to be sarcastic [about it]. You
can say that one of the main ideas behind any treatment of this kind &amp;nbsp;is that a fear is a thought, and, you know, it
doesn&amp;#39;t change reality. But you can say in the film it&amp;#39;s changed reality. But I
wouldn&amp;#39;t let him treat her in any other way than with his dick. He has an enormous
dick; he&amp;#39;s extremely well-equipped. And we had to kind of take those scenes out
of the film, we had a stand-in for him, we had to take the scenes out with his
own dick.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: You had a stand-in dick? You had to have a stand in dick
for Dafoe?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yes, yes, we had to, because Will&amp;#39;s own was too big.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Too big to fit in the screen?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
(laughs) No, too big because everybody got very confused when they saw it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: People should get intimidated. Especially when he-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Especially when he-?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: When he ejaculates blood, that was uh-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Oh yeah, yeah. That was the double.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: It&amp;#39;s quite a trick.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Uh, yes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: You didn&amp;#39;t have a stand-in, though, for Charlotte {Gainsbourgh]
and her self-editing scene, her snipping scene.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yes, we also had a stand-in for that. Otherwise we could only do it once.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: You used some sort of prosthetic, I imagine, for that
scene.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yeah, let&amp;#39;s say that, yes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: One thing that strikes me about the film, what I find
more disturbing maybe than the genital mutilation, is there seems to be an
attitude that existence itself is evil. Do you think that&amp;#39;s true?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
Yes, I believe I do. The idea for the film came after I had seen a film about
the original forests of Europe and I found out, maybe you read this somewhere
before - you know this image we all have of this fantastic, romantic place in a
forest? It actually is an image of the place that represents ultimate pain and
struggle. Because if you go to a park, there&amp;#39;s not so much struggle. But in
this original forest there&amp;#39;s kind of the maximum of life and death. I thought
that was quite interesting that I would also, if I had to think of a very good
place where I had no fears, and so on, it would be kind of in a place like
this. And then, on the other hand, knowing that this was in fact a place full
of all this suffering.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/antichrist_movie_2009_lbridgears_von_trier_0.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="222" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: In fairy tales the characters are warned not to go into
the forest. For good reason apparently. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV: But that is because again, I think the forest kind of
represents nature, and nature is always, sexuality is also, I believe, nature,
so nature has always in fairy tales also been seen, I think, seen as dangerous.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: The word &amp;quot;nature&amp;quot; comes from the Latin word &amp;quot;to be born.&amp;quot;
Is this film kind of a statement against reproduction?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
(laughs) No. Actually it&amp;#39;s not so much, it&amp;#39;s not a statement at all, I would
say. I don&amp;#39;t make statements...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: It&amp;#39;s kind of an allegory. It seems like a number of your
films lately have been allegorical, which is sometimes used as a derogatory
term, but I think that it&amp;#39;s more of an allegory like Dante&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;Divine Comedy&amp;quot; or
something like that. Do you see yourself as an allegorist? A religious
allegorist?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LV:
(laughs) No, no. I don&amp;#39;t see myself as anything. No, I do not see myself or the
film... I try not to analyze what I&amp;#39;m doing, or the film. I try to make films
instinctively, if there&amp;#39;s such a word, or intuitively. The films that I really
like are... yeah, of course you can see anything as symbolism, but I prefer
films that are intuitive and chaotic. My English is just terrible today; I&amp;#39;m
sorry. The more a film seems to come in a natural way, or I would say, the less
mathematics you can see in a film, and the less, also, symbols, because I think
symbols are fine when you see a film, but symbols are not so interesting to use
when you write it. So symbols I think are a waste of time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lvt%20foxjpg.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="195" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Next: Don&amp;#39;t trust the first fox you meet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;



&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=584950" width="1" height="1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~4/3Tx8Wv7ACd4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><feedburner:origLink>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/21/interview-with-lars-von-trier.aspx</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>Interview With Dennis Lehane, part 3</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/ii3I3y_CRg0/interview-with-dennis-lehane-part-3.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:04:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:583575</guid><dc:creator>Peter Keough</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=583575</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/19/interview-with-dennis-lehane-part-3.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lehanehutter-island-pic1.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="199" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The other day I was astonished to find out that there was a
video game for Lars von Trier&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;Antichrist.&amp;quot; So it doesn&amp;#39;t come as such a big
surprise that there is also one for Lehane&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;Shutter Island.&amp;quot;
And why not, since even Lehane concedes that the novel might be a dying art
form. Here&amp;#39;s the conversation picking up at the point where Lehane responds to
how some fans resented his turning to the historical epic genre for his most
recent novel, &amp;quot;The Given Day.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: ...there&amp;#39;s a part of my fan base that&amp;#39;s just like, &amp;quot;God
can you get over this fucking bullshit and get back to car chases and
shoot-out,&amp;quot; you know. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: You&amp;#39;ve said the crime novel is supplanting the social
problem novel. &amp;quot;The Given Day&amp;quot; reminded
me of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.A._trilogy"&gt;&amp;quot;USA&amp;quot;
by Dos Passos&lt;/a&gt;, for example, but in a
different genre.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, I think there&amp;#39;s certainly a point where the crime
novel very much became the social novel, particularly in the 90s, you saw this
big renaissance of American crime fiction, that you saw if you believe that it
happened in the 90s, what you saw there was a lot of investigating the social
issues of the day, and it&amp;#39;s sort of built for it because you&amp;#39;re dealing for the
most part, unless you&amp;#39;re dealing with British boardroom mysteries, you&amp;#39;re dealing
with people that most people fly over or drive past, so it lends itself to the
examination of social issues and hopefully not in a heavy-handed way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Certainly in &amp;quot;The Given Day&amp;quot; you&amp;#39;re tackling questions
of class and race and corruption and so forth...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, I think I always write about, maybe with the
exception of &amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;Shutter Island,&amp;quot;
I think I&amp;#39;m always on some level writing about class warfare. It&amp;#39;s just, I
don&amp;#39;t know, it&amp;#39;s sort of, you can&amp;#39;t escape your obsession and even when I think
I&amp;#39;m not, I am and it shows-oh there it is again.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Are you politically active?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: I&amp;#39;m politically active, but I like to keep it away from
my books. So, I very much never want to write like a polemic. Normally I stay
away but I was very, very vocal against the Iraqi war and I&amp;#39;ve formed a group,
&amp;quot;Writers Against the War,&amp;quot; put out an ad in the &amp;quot;Times, blah, blah, blah, but I
also went and I saw U2 last night and I was like, come on Bono, just sing. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: You must be a little more encouraged by the recent
presidential election.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Oh yeah, yeah. I was with a Republican last night and we
were talking and he said, I just don&amp;#39;t know what the Hell&amp;#39;s going on with my
party, if your voices are Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity, you&amp;#39;re fucked. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Well they seem to be getting more attention than they
deserve. There&amp;#39;s a series connected with your appearance at the &lt;a href="http://www.bostonbookfest.org/index.php/bookfest/schedule_detail/schedule_boston_noir_launch/%20"&gt;Boston Book Festival&lt;/a&gt;, where you&amp;#39;re doing a panel discussion with a bunch of writers from your
anthology. Also there&amp;#39;s series on &lt;a href="http://www.brattlefilm.org/brattlefilm/movie_detail/091016.html#a"&gt;Boston Noir movies at
the Brattle Theatre&lt;/a&gt;. Do you have a particular favorite outside the ones based
on your books?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lehane%20coyleach_600.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="232" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;DL: Oh I love &amp;quot;Monument
  Ave,&amp;quot; absolutely, it&amp;#39;s one of the most underrated.
Such a great, great movie. I love &amp;quot;Monument
  Ave&amp;quot; and the obvious &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/05/19/336436.aspx"&gt;Friends of Eddie Coyle&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;
In terms of Boston noir, are we just talking Boston?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Well Boston
if you will, you can expand that as much as you want.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lehane%20carterrequired.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="303" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: The thing that I think is really interesting,
cinematically that isn&amp;#39;t appreciated at the level it should be is British noir.
You know, when I think of the masterpieces of noir the first one that pops up
in my head is &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067128/"&gt;Get Carter&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;quot; the second one
is &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/movies/documents/01683427.htm"&gt;Sexy Beast&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;quot; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: &amp;nbsp;Somebody told me
that they read an article where you said that when you&amp;#39;re first starting out
writing, that you taped a note in front of your typewriter, whatever, saying,
&amp;quot;Nobody cares,&amp;quot; in order to let yourself write what you feel you have to write.
Is that still your attitude, you think?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Well I think there&amp;#39;s some of that, there&amp;#39;s also, I think
you should be able to, I also think of the Humphrey Bogart line, &amp;quot;All you owe
them is a great performance,&amp;quot; you know? And I believe that and I take that
really seriously, like I&amp;#39;m going to bust my ass to never phone in a book&amp;nbsp; but what I don&amp;#39;t owe you is &amp;quot;Gone, Baby, Gone
VI,&amp;quot; you know? I don&amp;#39;t owe you &amp;quot;Mystic River III.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;That&amp;#39;s not the deal. So the &amp;quot;Nobody Cares&amp;quot;
thing was really more a way, if you fail, nobody cares. It&amp;#39;s not a bad thing.
Just loosen the fuck up, stop thinking anybody&amp;#39;s out there keeping score and
that helped me so much when I was, you know, twenty. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: You could always go back to chauffeuring cars, right?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, yeah, it was at least, do this thing, love this
thing, but don&amp;#39;t expect-it was one, you know, my father in the background just
saying, &amp;quot;The world doesn&amp;#39;t owe you anything,&amp;quot; you know, so get that out of your
head, which is very good, because you see a lot of writers, their response to
something is &amp;quot;But I spent six months on this,&amp;quot; who gives a shit? You know what
I mean? &amp;quot;But I spent two years on this.&amp;quot; I don&amp;#39;t care, it doesn&amp;#39;t work. And I
think that&amp;#39;s something when I went to a class, and they&amp;#39;d say, &amp;quot;This doesn&amp;#39;t
work,&amp;quot; I&amp;#39;d throw it away.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: The end of &amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;The
Given Day,&amp;quot; it&amp;#39;s Babe Ruth leaving Boston, and
at first he&amp;#39;s very depressed and then he says, &amp;quot;Well, wait a minute, I&amp;#39;m too
big for Boston.&amp;quot;
Do you ever get the sense that that&amp;#39;s going to happen to you someday?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL:&amp;nbsp; No, never. Never,
never. I&amp;#39;m trying to get back here so hard. I just married a girl who has a
business in Florida and I can&amp;#39;t look her in
the eye and say, &amp;quot;Well I can only work in Boston,&amp;quot;
you know? All I want to do is get back here, I mean I&amp;#39;m here right now, every
time I&amp;#39;m away I want to get back, this is my town, I don&amp;#39;t think it can get
bigger than this. I don&amp;#39;t like LA, and New York&amp;#39;s
just, I don&amp;#39;t know, it&amp;#39;s New York,
I couldn&amp;#39;t become a Yankee fan.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: You could not become one?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Oh good God no. No, that&amp;#39;s hideous, no. Oh God. No I
couldn&amp;#39;t become a Yankees fan. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Or New York Jets, at this point too, are really starting
to bug me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: I said this to my sister-in-law, who&amp;#39;s a huge Jets fan,
and I said this to her a month ago, I said, &amp;quot;Watch out for your Jets,&amp;quot; and
she&amp;#39;s like, &amp;quot;Nah, the jerks. They&amp;#39;re not going to do anything,&amp;quot; and I&amp;#39;m like,
&amp;quot;Watch out, I think they&amp;#39;re going to sneak up on people, I think they&amp;#39;re really
going to do some damage this year,&amp;quot; and bang.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: They have.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: &lt;a href="http://areyouwatchingthis.com/nfl/games/112427"&gt;That game&lt;/a&gt; was tough. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: It was depressing, I was waiting for that five minute
comeback that they had against Buffalo
and it never happened.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: It never materialized, I know.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Well I think I&amp;#39;ve exhausted my time here, one last
question. You teach at a writers&amp;#39; class in Florida, so you know the coming
generation of writers is going to be like, or some indication, do you ever get
the feeling you&amp;#39;re a practitioner of a dying art form?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yes, yes I do. More and more every year. I hate to day
it, but it&amp;#39;s-did you see that article in the &amp;quot;Globe&amp;quot; about that, I can&amp;#39;t even
remember which school it was, that&amp;#39;s going completely electronic, they&amp;#39;ve
killed their library?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: No, I didn&amp;#39;t see it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: A couple of weeks ago, and you just thought, &amp;quot;Oh dear
God, this is it, this is the end.&amp;quot; When school&amp;#39;s go, we don&amp;#39;t need a library,
you start to feel like, yeah, maybe I&amp;#39;m a troubadour, you know? And there ain&amp;#39;t
going to be a lot of troubadours in the coming years, so the feeling I get from
most of my students is-not the exceptional ones-but from the vast majority is,
they don&amp;#39;t read. What they really want to do is write screenplays, but they
don&amp;#39;t know how, and they don&amp;#39;t have any connections in Hollywood. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: And they&amp;#39;ll probably start selling them too because most
of the people in Hollywood
don&amp;#39;t seem to know what a good story is, what a good screenplay is.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: And that&amp;#39;s the problem too, I mean you see, was it, I
think it was Tony Scott in the &amp;quot;NY Times&amp;quot; who wrote about what&amp;#39;s happening with
adult movies and I believe it was in this article, they said, &amp;quot;If you don&amp;#39;t
know how market &amp;quot;The Hurt Locker,&amp;quot; what&amp;#39;s left?&amp;quot; You know? If you can&amp;#39;t take a
movie that good and that exciting and that story-strong and that
character-strong and make that into at least a modest hit, then it&amp;#39;s over, you
know? You guys really only know how to sell things connected to toys.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: And make movies that are based on toys too.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, yeah. God, it&amp;#39;s fucking depressing. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: You don&amp;#39;t have any merchandising with any of your films,
right? No Sean Penn action doll or anything?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Uh, you know what, there&amp;#39;s actually a &lt;a href="http://www.gamespot.com/pc/adventure/shutterisland/index.html"&gt;&amp;quot;Shutter Island&amp;quot;
video game&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Really?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: I actually think that would work. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: There&amp;#39;s all sorts of things with that. There&amp;#39;s a graphic
novel, there&amp;#39;s all sorts of weird things I can&amp;#39;t remember that came out of &amp;quot;Shutter.&amp;quot;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=583575" width="1" height="1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~4/ii3I3y_CRg0" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><feedburner:origLink>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/19/interview-with-dennis-lehane-part-3.aspx</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>Interview with Dennis Lehane, part 2</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/bl0nS2rkh-w/interview-with-dennis-lehane-part-2.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:11:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:582304</guid><dc:creator>Peter Keough</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=582304</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/16/interview-with-dennis-lehane-part-2.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lehanethe-given-day_cover_002.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="302" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here&amp;#39;s something I forgot to mention: Lehane&amp;#39;s most recent
book &amp;quot;The Given Day&amp;quot;, a
working class epic set in post-WW I Boston and points west that is a kind of local
noir version of Dos Passos&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;USA,&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; has recently come out in paperback and is also
in the process of being adapted for screen with &lt;a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/4223368/Dennis-Lehanes-The-Given-Day.html%20"&gt;Sam Raimi directing&lt;/a&gt;. Just so you&amp;#39;re not surprised when this comes up later in the conversation.&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p&gt;PK: A couple of blocks away they&amp;#39;re making a
movie at Fenway Park called &amp;quot;The Town,&amp;quot; it seems to me that that never would&amp;#39;ve
been possible in all this renaissance of filmmaking in Boston had you not
written the book &amp;quot;Mystic River&amp;quot; and had Clint Eastwood not made a successful
movie out of it. Do you think that that&amp;#39;s a fair statement?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: I think that between Clint Eastwood
making &amp;quot;Mystic River&amp;quot; and the way teamsters began to
treat film crews was at that exact moment, created the perfect storm. The good
perfect storm and that helped make movies in Boston
because originally, before &amp;quot;Mystic River&amp;quot;...I&amp;#39;m trying to think how long the desert lasted
before somebody would film a movie in Boston
before Clint filmed a movie in Boston.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: The problem started I guess with, or most
surfaced with &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.bigscreenboston.com/2008/04/book-excerpt--1.html"&gt;The Brinks Job&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;quot; there was a heist in more ways than one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Oh yeah, and then it just continued and
then it got worse and worse and worse and worse and you know in the 90s I was
in the independent film scene in Boston, horrors, I can tell you-I can&amp;#39;t tell
you-horror stories about that. I saw some really terrifying things, and it ran
everybody out of town. So when Clint came in and kind of worked a deal and said
you know if you stick me up don&amp;#39;t stick me up too heavily, it worked, and it
brought a lot of good things to the city, so for whatever reason, that started.
And you know, there&amp;#39;s the tax breaks and there&amp;#39;s all these other wonderful
things that are going on with film communities, so I think &amp;quot;Mystic River&amp;quot;
certainly got the ball rolling, but it&amp;#39;s weird for me to try, I never want to
come off taking credit for most of the things that go on with these movies
because they don&amp;#39;t have much to do with me, you know, I sold you the book, good
luck.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: So you were into making movies in the
90s, you just said? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, yeah. A little tiny film that was a
little too much like &amp;quot;Good Will Hunting.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Was that a feature length film?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, it was, it was. Ben and I had a
hilarious conversation about it where I just, I&amp;#39;m one of the only people in
America who&amp;#39;s never seen &amp;quot;Good Will Hunting&amp;quot; and we, it was just two different
scripts out of this zeitgeist&amp;nbsp; and we
filmed almost, pretty much in two months of each other and neither of us has
seen each other&amp;#39;s film-each other scripts-and all of a sudden, I saw it again,
and I was in editing, and I started worrying about this movie, this Gus van
Sant&amp;nbsp; movie, like oh shit, and I saw it
and then I thought we&amp;#39;re dead.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: So does a copy exist?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Oh yes, but I do not show it to people
(laugh). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: You don&amp;#39;t think you&amp;#39;re cut out to be a
director, or filmmaker?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: I discovered that I think I was adequate
at it, on one hand I had a good eye, on the other hand I wasn&amp;#39;t terribly patient
with actors. I could fake it, inside I just wanted to kill them and I think
when you see Scorsese work with actors, when you see the way Ben works with
actors, you just see this generosity of spirit, which I just don&amp;#39;t think I
have, I&amp;#39;d be too impatient.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: You&amp;#39;re more the Otto Preminger type, I
guess.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, well you hear it about a lot of the
Irish-Neil Jordan-they just don&amp;#39;t want to sit around and chat, you know, like Ang
Lee. You know there&amp;#39;s certain directors who are just, &amp;quot;What the fuck, hit your
marks.&amp;quot; And unfortunately I think I&amp;#39;d be more like that and that doesn&amp;#39;t make
me a good actors&amp;#39; director.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK:&amp;nbsp;
Plus it&amp;#39;s an incredibly painstaking process and you&amp;#39;re dependent on so
many people, and like when you&amp;#39;re just sitting down writing a book...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lehanehewire.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="284" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Oh yeah, or even when we worked on &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.hbo.com/thewire/cast/crew/dennis_lehane.shtml%20"&gt;The
Wire&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;quot; we ran the show pretty much in every single aspect. TV, you&amp;#39;re almost
the playwright, in a good TV show certainly, premium cable, so the writers, you
don&amp;#39;t need to be the director, let that guy deal with the camera, you know,
we&amp;#39;ll deal with the production. So it&amp;#39;s something that, it was an itch I
scratched and then I went back to doing what I loved.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: So, you&amp;#39;re happy to let other people do
the directing, like Sam Raimi is doing the adaptation of your new book.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, although Sam&amp;#39;s got a lot of irons
in the fire right now&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Yeah, I just looked at his &lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000600/%20"&gt;IMDB thing&lt;/a&gt; and it had like twenty projects in development.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, yeah, so where we&amp;#39;ll get, I don&amp;#39;t
know. I&amp;#39;ve talked to Sam a couple of times, he is advertised as one of the
nicest human beings I&amp;#39;ve ever met in Hollywood, but where we&amp;#39;re going to go, I
mean, I don&amp;#39;t even think they&amp;#39;ve hired a screenwriter yet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: And there&amp;#39;s nothing like a cast put
together or anything like that?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Oh, God no. Literally is just in
negotiations with the screenwriter.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: When I see the movie of a book that I&amp;#39;ve
read that I liked I always have mixed feelings because it seems they&amp;#39;ve reimagined
the character and have taken the place of the character I&amp;#39;ve imagined. Do you
think that happens with your own characters?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lehane%20penn_oscarsa4.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="295" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Completely, completely. I just feel like
it&amp;#39;s an alternate universe and I feel very comfortable with the split, some
people don&amp;#39;t, I just feel like that&amp;#39;s-on the screen that&amp;#39;s Sean Penn&amp;#39;s Jimmy
Markum, that&amp;#39;s not my Jimmy Markum, you know what I mean? There&amp;#39;s two different
people and Sean Penn&amp;#39;s interpretation is wonderful but it&amp;#39;s a different entity,
you know, it&amp;#39;s like the film is a giraffe and the book is the apple.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: He won an Oscar for it too, he must&amp;#39;ve
been doing something right.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Oh, he was outstanding, I mean, but
again, there&amp;#39;s just that part of you that goes, &amp;quot;Right, that&amp;#39;s brilliant, it&amp;#39;s
a great interpretation, but a different beast from the character of the book.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK:&amp;nbsp; So
you never, when you write a book, have an image of an actor or another person?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Every now and then I&amp;#39;ll get something and
it tends to happen against my defenses because I always fend against that idea,
I just don&amp;#39;t want to write to the movies, you know, let the movies be the movies,
let me just write books and I&amp;#39;ve had moments, I remember at the end of &amp;quot;Shutter
Island&amp;quot; and it just began to pop up very strongly near the end of that book
that I was seeing Russell Crowe as Teddy, who was much younger in those days,
then they would&amp;#39;ve thought of him.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: That&amp;#39;s when you were writing it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, it was right at the tail end, for
whatever reason, the face came into my head and I remember when I was writing &amp;quot;Mystic River,&amp;quot;
&amp;nbsp;Lili Taylor popped into my head as the
Annabeth [played in the film by Laura Linney] character, you know the actress?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Yeah, right I know her, she&amp;#39;s a great
actress.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, and it&amp;#39;s funny I told her boyfriend
that years later and he was like, &amp;quot;Oh, I don&amp;#39;t even know if I should tell her,&amp;quot;
(laugh), know what I mean? But that was, for whatever reason, those are the
only times I can think of it happening.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: That book was that your most ambitious
book because it seems like you&amp;#39;ve gone from first person and then to third
person and now you&amp;#39;ve gone from a minimalist into an epic kind of format.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, I just, the only way I know is to
keep sort of walking the path, whatever it is, I can&amp;#39;t describe it, I know that
everybody wishes at some level, certainly in my business world that I&amp;#39;d be a
little more clear about where I go but I can only follow the stories, you know?
So right now I&amp;#39;m writing, what, eleven years to the &lt;a href="http://www.bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view/20091005hes_back_baby_back_with_a_sequel/srvc=home&amp;amp;position=6"&gt;sequel &lt;/a&gt;to
&amp;quot;Gone Baby Gone?&amp;quot;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lehane_gone-15-casey_affleck-michelle_monaghan.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="240" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: So you&amp;#39;re going to continue with the two
characters? [Patrick Kenzie and Angela Gennaro, the detective team in &amp;quot;Gone
Baby Gone&amp;quot; and four other Lehane novels].&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, just when I was sure they were
dead, like literally I was putting the last nail on the coffin and it just
started talking to me: &amp;quot;Hey wait a minute, we got one more in us.&amp;quot; So...and I&amp;#39;d
like to do a continuation of the world I was dealing with in &amp;quot;The Given Day,&amp;quot;
you know, after that. But, yeah, I don&amp;#39;t know, I never set up to go from
minimalist to become epic.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: From Carver to Tolstoy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, no, no, no, not at all, (laugh).
But, it&amp;#39;s definitely been an interesting path and I wouldn&amp;#39;t trade it for the
world. But of course some fans would view, it&amp;#39;s like the, the Woody Allen
movie, &amp;quot;Stardust Memories,&amp;quot; tell funnier jokes. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: He never followed that advice,
unfortunately.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: No, he didn&amp;#39;t, although there&amp;#39;s some
hilarious shit in &amp;quot;Crimes and Misdemeanors.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Next: words of wisdom - &amp;quot;Nobody cares.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;



&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=582304" width="1" height="1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~4/bl0nS2rkh-w" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><feedburner:origLink>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/16/interview-with-dennis-lehane-part-2.aspx</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>Interview with Dennis Lehane</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/95BCLdR4dWs/interview-with-dennis-lehane.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:05:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:581994</guid><dc:creator>Peter Keough</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=581994</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/15/interview-with-dennis-lehane.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/lehane.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="361" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If there had been no Dennis Lehane, it&amp;#39;s safe to say that
Ben Affleck wouldn&amp;#39;t be having an FBI SWAT team blasting away at Charlestown
bank robbers a few days ago a couple of blocks from where I live. He was
shooting a scene from &amp;quot;The Town,&amp;quot; an adaptation of Boston author Chuck Hogan&amp;#39;s novel &amp;quot;Prince of
Thieves.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Lehane, you recall,
wrote the bestseller &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/movies/reviews/documents/03197806.asp"&gt;Mystic River&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;
which Clint Eastwood shot here in Boston
and which won and was nominated for several Oscars in 2003. The success of that
film no doubt influenced the Massachusetts
government to pass a bill allowing studios shooting in Boston attractive tax credits, which led, in
turn, to Martin Scorsese shooting &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/Boston/Movies/24103-DEPARTED/"&gt;The Departed&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;
which won the Best Picture Oscar in 2007. And then Affleck adapted Lehane&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/Portland/Movies/49329-GONE-BABY-GONE/?rel=inf%20"&gt;Gone
Baby Gone&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; and
Scorsese adapted &amp;quot;Shutter Island&amp;quot; and now we have cops and robbers blasting out
the windows of Gate D in Fenway Park.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lehane has a new book out, one he&amp;#39;s edited (and contributed a
story to) called &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Boston-Noir-Akashic-Dennis-Lehane/dp/1933354917"&gt;Boston Noir&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;quot;
He and some of the other writers will be &amp;quot;launching&amp;quot; the book at an event at
the Boston Book
Festival http://www.bostonbookfest.org/ at the BPL on Saturday. He was kind
enough to talk with me about the phenomenon of Boston Noir in its many
manifestations.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: What inspired you to put together an anthology on Boston noir?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Um, somebody kept asking me to, that was my inspiration.
Johnny Temple, who runs Akashic books, and does these noir series, he just
pretty much hounded me into my grave to do it, so I did it. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: And what was your resistance to doing it? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Time, just time. I mean, I love noir, you know if I
was-I&amp;#39;m not a big believer in that sort of ghettoization of certain types of
literature but within the crime fiction if I would say noir is my favorite, as
a sort of sub-genre if you will. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Is Boston
noir a legitimate sub-genre or sub-sub of the genre?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Umm, I don&amp;#39;t know if-that&amp;#39;s for other people to
decide-but I do think that noir itself can be. Noir is certainly different than
classical mystery. Umm, so yeah. It was fun. Once I finally got the ball
rolling I enjoyed it a lot. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: What are the elements of Boston
noir that are distinct from let&amp;#39;s say LA noir or Florida noir or any of the other regional
types?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Well, look, you can compare Florida
noir to Boston noir, Florida noir it has a much more sort of
absurdist, gothic bent. If you look at, I would think of &lt;a href="http://www.carlhiaasen.com/index.shtml"&gt;Carl Hiaasen&lt;/a&gt;.Whereas
if you look at Boston,
it&amp;#39;s a different kind of comedy. It&amp;#39;s a darker kind of-blacker-more Boston type of comedy. The
idea that, I&amp;#39;ll say about Bostonians, that God&amp;#39;s a bit of a jokester and we&amp;#39;re
the punchline.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: That&amp;#39;s almost an Irish Bostonian, kind of point-of-view
and tone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: But you know, I see it in general across the spectrum in
Boston. I mean,
there&amp;#39;s a level, a sort of deadpan understated humor that if you try it any
place else, certainly any place south of New
  York City, nobody&amp;#39;s going to get your joke. You&amp;#39;ll
just get blank stares. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: And is this from Brahmins down to Stevedores, or do you
think it&amp;#39;s more of a class kind of humor?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: I would say now it&amp;#39;s definitely metastasized so that
it&amp;#39;s pretty much citywide. You know there&amp;#39;s just a-I don&amp;#39;t know-people get the
dry line in a way they just don&amp;#39;t in most places.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: There&amp;#39;s a kind of fatalism to it, I think, which may
have something to do with our sports teams. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: I definitely thought that for years. I mean I felt like
it&amp;#39;s going to be interesting to see if there&amp;#39;s a generational shift now that
we&amp;#39;ve become this city of winners, if you will.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Title town&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah. I remember trying to explain this to people last
year, I lived at least half a year in Tampa and went to college there so I&amp;#39;ve
always had a bit of an affinity for the Rays, I always think of them as my
minor league team, and so it was a strange feeling seeing the Rays go up
against the Red Sox having my identity built around David vs. Goliath and
realizing I was Goliath. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: All of a sudden we&amp;#39;ve turned into the Yankees.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, you know there is that, I don&amp;#39;t know if we&amp;#39;re
quite the Yankees, I think we need 26 and George Steinbrenner to be the
Yankees, but we&amp;#39;re certainly, there is that-there used to be that line about
the Yankees,&amp;nbsp; that rooting for the
Yankees is like rooting for US Steel. There is certainly that sense that
rooting for the Pats and rooting for the Red Sox is rooting for a sleeker &amp;nbsp;beast, if you will. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: More than a literary genre, noir has become a film genre
and it seems like the Boston noir is dominating;
most of the highly touted films and successful films have been set in Boston. Can you give
insight as to why that it so?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: I think there&amp;#39;s certainly...there&amp;#39;s a funeral going on and
it&amp;#39;s for that type of world. The world that you see in &amp;quot;The Departed,&amp;quot; the
world that you see in &amp;quot;Mystic River,&amp;quot; the world that you saw in &amp;quot;Monument
Avenue,&amp;quot; the sort of European Ethnic neighborhood, that sort of clannishness.
It&amp;#39;s departing and I think there&amp;#39;s a bit of a funeral being held and it&amp;#39;s
showing up in those movies. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/Mystic_River_Wallpaper_8_1024.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="336" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: So it&amp;#39;s nostalgia?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: I don&amp;#39;t know, it&amp;#39;s both a nostalgia, and certainly I can
say, I don&amp;#39;t know if I can speak for, you know, Monahan or, I&amp;#39;m trying to think
who wrote &amp;quot;Monument Ave,&amp;quot; I remember Ted Demme directed it, but I can&amp;#39;t speak
for those guys, but I can say when I was writing &amp;quot;Mystic River&amp;quot; it was both a
nostalgic look but also, you know, there&amp;#39;s a reason these floors get swept.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: It seems as the city becomes more homogenized and
gentrified, the films and the writing about it is sort of settling into a world
where it&amp;#39;s a bit more of a neighborhood kind of a city, more of a lower class
kind of a city. Do you see that happening?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: I definitely see that that&amp;#39;s where storytelling seems to
be happening, I&amp;#39;m not sure-what would you say about Kenmore Square these days? Except that
it&amp;#39;s pretty much homogenized.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Since the Rathskeller has left certainly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah the Rat&amp;#39;s gone and...God everything&amp;#39;s gone, Cornwall is still hanging
by its fingernails, but it&amp;#39;s just not Kenmore
  Square anymore.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: The Citgo sign is still there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: The Citgo sign, thank God. Remember that idiot who was
trying to take it down a couple of years ago?...Yeah, so I think it&amp;#39;s a
dramatically fertile area to go to right now, is the neighborhood, so I&amp;#39;d like
to see, I&amp;#39;d like to see what&amp;#39;s going to come out of the new ethnic fabric. I&amp;#39;d
love to see a Cambodian writer, you know what I mean? Or...the Brazilians in
Allston, you know I&amp;#39;d love to see something come out of the new ethnic
enclaves.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: A lot of Hispanic&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, well my neighborhood went Vietnamese, Vietnamese,
Cambodian and that&amp;#39;s not something, because that happened as I went away to
college and moved out, it&amp;#39;s not something I would feel comfortable speaking to,
I would feel more like a tourist.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: So you&amp;#39;re going to continue drawing from your
experiences of Boston back when you were growing
up in Dorchester, or...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Or certainly from the perspective of somebody who grew
up that way and is now seeing, you know, the writing is on the wall, you know
that&amp;#39;s certainly the story that I contributed was that idea of these guys
growing up believing in the Church, suddenly that&amp;#39;s not-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: I think a big reason Boston is becoming such a setting for this
type of movie is clearly your success in film. What do you think is cinematic
about your books? You look at them and they&amp;#39;re very dense in terms of
characters&amp;#39; psychology and the writing is very fine, it doesn&amp;#39;t seem the kind
of thing that would translate immediately into movies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: You know, I totally agree with you. I&amp;#39;ve written one
original plot in my life and that was &amp;quot;Shutter Island&amp;quot;
and even that is wearing it-the homage is on its sleeve-I&amp;#39;m not a real strong,
I&amp;#39;m not an original plot guy. You know, &amp;quot;Mystic River&amp;quot;
is the plot of an old 1930s RKO movie, so I don&amp;#39;t know what started it, what
originally brought people to work. I know now, and I flavor them up, and so I
produce a laundry list and everybody&amp;#39;s like, &amp;quot;Ooh that could be a good movie,
could get an Academy Award out of that.&amp;quot; I think the success of my movies is
very clear on what it is and it is to me. There were no extra cooks in the
kitchen and in each case I had sort of auteur theory in play and you had Clint
Eastwood, Brian Helgeland, that&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;Mystic
 River,&amp;quot; that&amp;#39;s it, end of
story. &amp;quot;Gone Baby Gone&amp;quot; was Ben Affleck and Aaron Stockard, end of story, the
Weinstein brothers left them alone and Martin Scorsese comes in and he&amp;#39;s a 500
pound gorilla and he says &amp;quot;This is what I want to do,&amp;quot; so none of my films have
a lot of fingerprints on them. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/shutter-island-b.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="241" hspace="5" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: What&amp;#39;s the story with &amp;quot;Shutter Island?&amp;quot;
It&amp;#39;s been &lt;a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSTRE57L01M20090822"&gt;postponed &lt;/a&gt;until February; is
that something we should worry about? I was disappointed to hear that it wasn&amp;#39;t
coming out in November.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL:&amp;nbsp; No, you shouldn&amp;#39;t
worry about it, I can say this without ego because I had zero to do with the
production of that film, I mean I&amp;#39;m an executive producer, yeah, you know, but
I had zero-my fingers are not anywhere near that outside of the book and so I
can say having seen the film that it&amp;#39;s brilliant. I think the story that they
put in the press is mostly true which is that they didn&amp;#39;t have the money, the
market and in a year in which very solid films, like &amp;quot;Public Enemies&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;State
of Play&amp;quot; clearly under-performed, I think everybody&amp;#39;s scared. So they said,
they want to go back, they decided let&amp;#39;s have a really good marketing plan
before we pull the trigger on this.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: Would you be involved in that?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, I&amp;#39;d be happy to. I&amp;#39;ve always said, look, if the
film sucks, I&amp;#39;m not going to talk it down. I just can&amp;#39;t stand writers who do
that, I would just vanish, I would take the money, thank you, and just vanish.
With &amp;quot;Shutter Island,&amp;quot; it&amp;#39;s such a good movie, I&amp;#39;d be
happy to go out and pimp for it a little bit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: You&amp;#39;ve been fortunate, I would say, a pretty good run of
movies, adapting your books, they all seem to been true to the book and also
excellent movies. &lt;br /&gt;
DL: Yeah, but again, it&amp;#39;s-we go back to that idea, singular visions behind the
camera, it&amp;#39;s an old school kind of-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: The auteur theory.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: Yeah, and it&amp;#39;s-now I don&amp;#39;t know any other way. Sooner or
later I&amp;#39;m going to have that crooked up adaptation of my books, and that&amp;#39;s when
you won&amp;#39;t be able to find me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PK: But have you contributed anything other than the basic
book to these adaptations?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DL: I&amp;#39;ve had consultations, would be the way I would put it,
most heavily on &amp;quot;Mystic River,&amp;quot; but with &amp;quot;Gone Baby Gone,&amp;quot; Ben and I spent a
lot of time talking, but it was late in the process because I was so immersed
in my book, I was just like, I really can&amp;#39;t roll with you in the early stage of
pre-production. And then with &amp;quot;Shutter
 Island,&amp;quot; I started
reading Laeta Kalogridis&amp;#39;s script,
I want to say two drafts before the final draft, and the only notes I had on
the entire thing was that she was being too reverential to the lines in the
book. And she got it, she was like, &amp;quot;Oh, you&amp;#39;re right , you can&amp;#39;t have that
come out of a character&amp;#39;s mouth, sounds pretty in a book, but it wouldn&amp;#39;t
work.&amp;quot; So she went, she cut those lines and that was it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Next: Boston
filmmaking when the biggest heists were not on the screen.&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=581994" width="1" height="1"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~4/95BCLdR4dWs" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><feedburner:origLink>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/15/interview-with-dennis-lehane.aspx</feedburner:origLink></item><item><title>Global Voices</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PHXOutsideTheFrame/~3/Jk8w1yur9H4/global-voices.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:41:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ad053fdd-4c7f-49f6-bf6d-6c53a7e614d5:579987</guid><dc:creator>Peter Keough</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=579987</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/outsidetheframe/archive/2009/10/09/global-voices.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/Tea%20on%20the%20Axis%20of%20Evil%20-%20image%201.jpg" alt="" width="450" align="middle" border="" height="307" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Back in 2003 or so after Iraq
got squashed Syria
was being pushed as a likely candidate to take its place in the Axis of Evil.
I&amp;#39;m not sure what their status is now since the media and current
administration have stopped demonizing them for the time being, but the
country&amp;#39;s image, it&amp;#39;s safe to say, isn&amp;#39;t one of a progressive, tourist friendly
country full of people who, surprise, are just like we are, only a little
different. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#39;s the picture conveyed by Jean Marie Offenbacher&amp;#39;s (she&amp;#39;ll
be at the screening for&amp;nbsp; a Q &amp;amp; A) documentary &amp;quot;Tea on the Axis of Evil,&amp;quot; which is screening
tonight at 9 p.m. as part of ongoing &lt;a href="http://www.bostonfilms.org/"&gt;Global Voices Film Festival&lt;/a&gt; presented by the United Nations Association of Greater Boston. A buoyant travelogue with
a political edge, featuring some fascinating sites and some intriguing,
friendly people, it might not dispel all the myths about this ancient and
vibrant country, but it does make you want to learn more. Maybe even pay a
visit. Though I&amp;#39;m not totally convinced by the portrayal; the place at times seems
like Vermont
with deserts. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, maybe it is. Most of what I know about the world comes
from the TV and movies, after all. That&amp;#39;s why this festival is of such
importance. It runs through October 11 at the Harvard Film Archive, the Harvard Kennedy School
and the Brattle Theatre. Among the other films being shown are &amp;quot;My Neighbor, My
Killer,&amp;quot; Anne Aghion&amp;#39;s look at the harrowing success of the Gacaca Tribunals,
in which perpetrators of the 1994 Rwandan genocide confess their crimes in
order to receive forgiveness from victims and survivors. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nor is the outlook all
grim. Tim Wise&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;Soldiers of Peace&amp;quot; reports that because of the work of
the title peacemakers the number of wars in the world, perhaps for the first
time, is actually decreasing. Festivals like this can only encourage that
process.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://thephoenix.com/blogs/blogs/outsidetheframe/soldiersofpeace.jpg" alt="" width="454" align="middle" border="" height="256" hspace="5" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;



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Here&amp;#39;s what some of those who disagreed with my review of &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://thephoenix.com/Boston/Movies/90532-ZOMBIELAND/%20"&gt;Zombieland&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (which topped the box office this week, taking in $25 million) had to say about it on the &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/zombieland/comments.php?reviewid=1847548"&gt;Rotten Tomatoes&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; website:

&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;scifimark
writes:&lt;br /&gt;
on Sep 30 2009 09:52 PM&lt;br /&gt;
I didnt even know this crappy paper was still around. I dont know about the
review but its a piss poor publication in general&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;runmong
writes:&lt;br /&gt;
on Oct 01 2009 11:39 AM &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wait, did he actually get paid to write that review? I&amp;#39;m
pretty sure 90% of the people here could write a better one.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Fair enough. Far be it for me to begrudge anyone the right
to an opinion. But I wonder if runmong would include aaron b among that 90% of better qualified Tomatoes writers who writes&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Who knew that writing a review like this won&amp;#39;t be a great
opportunity for you to be liked by anyone. I hope that when you **** tonight
all the ****hole excuses for reviews you&amp;#39;ve written in the past clog your
****hole and your very own vaginal lips choke the dumbass out of you. You
cocknibbling thunder-twat.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the asterisks to spare those of us who might be
offended by the rough language.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the last posting I mentioned the great critic James Agee
who in his first film review described his role as someone who &amp;quot;conduct[s] one
end of a conversation, as an amateur critic among amateur critics.&amp;quot; A worthy
ideal, no doubt. But Agee never had a conversation with aaron b.&lt;/p&gt;



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