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		<title>240: Action and Reaction (Part 2 of 2)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 23:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight we conclude with the HOW of communicating effectively along with historically useful methods that are no longer effective and some case studies of effective vs. ineffective protests.  And we find something that #Occupy was effective at other than being an awareness campaign!


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight we conclude with the HOW of communicating effectively along with historically useful methods that are no longer effective and some case studies of effective vs. ineffective protests.  And we find something that #Occupy was effective at other than being an awareness campaign!<br />
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<div class="timestamp">01:02</div>
<div class="subject">Nick, we need to talk</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:12</div>
<div class="subject">How you say a message has a lot to do with how people perceive a message</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:45</div>
<div class="subject">Case study of Scientology with regards to how to communicate a message</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:51</div>
<div class="subject">Compare/Contrast of effective vs. an ineffective protest</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:12</div>
<div class="subject">How you say a message has a lot to do with how people perceive a message</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:45</div>
<div class="subject">Case study of Scientology with regards to how to communicate a message</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:51</div>
<div class="subject">Compare/Contrast of effective vs. an ineffective protest</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:45</div>
<div class="subject">Using a tool for what it&#8217;s good for</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:45</div>
<div class="subject">Using a tool for what it&#8217;s good for</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:46</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t be offensive to the point it&#8217;s counter-productive to your purpose</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:11</div>
<div class="subject">Keeping things positive (fighting for something) generally works better in public mindset.</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:17</div>
<div class="subject">Have a call to action!</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:51</div>
<div class="subject">Effective protests focus on one central idea, other things can be brought up, but there is one core idea</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:17</div>
<div class="subject">Have a call to action!</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:59</div>
<div class="subject">Is your call to action going to be effective?  Are you helping others help you?</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:20</div>
<div class="subject">Is a more appropriate goal: benevolent apathy</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:47</div>
<div class="subject">Have details!</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:30</div>
<div class="subject">Have a plan pre-made for influencers to implement</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:06</div>
<div class="subject">Is this physically possible?</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:57</div>
<div class="subject">Rant against Occupy with how they do this wrong.</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:17</div>
<div class="subject">Now exiting: communication</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:21</div>
<div class="subject">Drama!</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:28</div>
<div class="subject">Name calling is a bad idea when trying to get something done</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:44</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy fulfills a moral obligation to Patheos</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:31</div>
<div class="subject">Lies and deception as part of your methodologies</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:28</div>
<div class="subject">How homosexuality got removed from the DSM</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:10</div>
<div class="subject">Why are historically proven methods failing us now?</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:44</div>
<div class="subject">Why protests have stopped working</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:36</div>
<div class="subject">Finally, an example of how Occupy did something right &#8211; mass manipulation</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:28</div>
<div class="subject">How homosexuality got removed from the DSM</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:02</div>
<div class="subject">Peaceful protests vs. the other type: Occupy</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:27</div>
<div class="subject">Peaceful != Apathetic</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:00</div>
<div class="subject">Sacrifice as a part of protest movements?</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:21</div>
<div class="subject">Beginning the discussion about CEOs here</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:51</div>
<div class="subject">Maciavelli reference, take a drink.</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:24</div>
<div class="subject">Why women are not paid as much as other genders</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:57</div>
<div class="subject">All goes back to effective communication</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:10</div>
<div class="subject">How Occupy was effective at playing a page out of the proverbial political playbook</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:09</div>
<div class="subject">Becoming an angry mob turns people against your movement, for example: Occupy</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:49</div>
<div class="subject">If you are part of/leading a movement, it is your role to take control of the conversation!</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:00</div>
<div class="subject">MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE CONVERSATION</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:17</div>
<div class="subject">Why Scurvy hates Patheos Pagan Portal</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:54</div>
<div class="subject">People with single goals</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:34</div>
<div class="subject">The awesomeness of the Patheos Pagan Portal is overshadowed by derpy lower-management</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:54</div>
<div class="subject">The most successful protests we see in textbooks had a lot of involvement from local communities &#8211; they weren&#8217;t one large monolithic group.</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:47</div>
<div class="subject">Apps as a means of effective communication</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:57</div>
<div class="subject">People are wondering how Pagans (especially Wiccans) are going to help out</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:06</div>
<div class="subject">Sometimes Pagans boycott stuff for stupid reasons</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:37</div>
<div class="subject">Open Hearth Foundation doing cool stuff to essentially be a Pagan Lobby</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:33</div>
<div class="subject">Online petitions generate awareness, but what are you doing with that awareness?</div>
<div class="timestamp">00:00</div>
<div class="subject"></div>
<div class="timestamp">46:49</div>
<div class="subject">Tactics not used by Pagans</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:04</div>
<div class="subject">Boycotts, and Ed Hubbard&#8217;s theory</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:06</div>
<div class="subject">Sometimes Pagans boycott stuff for stupid reasons</div>
<div class="timestamp">51:56</div>
<div class="subject">Suing the government fading out from common practice among Pagans for national campaigns</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Tonight we conclude with the HOW of communicating effectively along with historically useful methods that are no longer effective and some case studies of effective vs. ineffective protests.  And we find something that #Occupy was effective at other th...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Tonight we conclude with the HOW of communicating effectively along with historically useful methods that are no longer effective and some case studies of effective vs. ineffective protests.  And we find something that #Occupy was effective at other than being an awareness campaign!


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Guest Hosts:
Nick of The Satyr's Thicket, NRia of Pagan Men


01:02Nick, we need to talk
01:12How you say a message has a lot to do with how people perceive a message
01:45Case study of Scientology with regards to how to communicate a message
03:51Compare/Contrast of effective vs. an ineffective protest
01:12How you say a message has a lot to do with how people perceive a message
01:45Case study of Scientology with regards to how to communicate a message
03:51Compare/Contrast of effective vs. an ineffective protest
04:45Using a tool for what it's good for
04:45Using a tool for what it's good for
05:46Don't be offensive to the point it's counter-productive to your purpose
06:11Keeping things positive (fighting for something) generally works better in public mindset.
07:17Have a call to action!
06:51Effective protests focus on one central idea, other things can be brought up, but there is one core idea
07:17Have a call to action!
09:59Is your call to action going to be effective?  Are you helping others help you?
10:20Is a more appropriate goal: benevolent apathy
10:47Have details!
11:30Have a plan pre-made for influencers to implement
13:06Is this physically possible?
13:57Rant against Occupy with how they do this wrong.
15:17Now exiting: communication
15:21Drama!
17:28Name calling is a bad idea when trying to get something done
18:44Scurvy fulfills a moral obligation to Patheos
19:31Lies and deception as part of your methodologies
22:28How homosexuality got removed from the DSM
20:10Why are historically proven methods failing us now?
20:44Why protests have stopped working
21:36Finally, an example of how Occupy did something right - mass manipulation
22:28How homosexuality got removed from the DSM
23:02Peaceful protests vs. the other type: Occupy
23:27Peaceful != Apathetic
25:00Sacrifice as a part of protest movements?
26:21Beginning the discussion about CEOs here
26:51Maciavelli reference, take a drink.
31:24Why women are not paid as much as other genders
31:57All goes back to effective communication
32:10How Occupy was effective at playing a page out of the proverbial political playbook
34:09Becoming an angry mob turns people against your movement, for example: Occupy
34:49If you are part of/leading a movement, it is your role to take control of the conversation!
36:00MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE CONVERSATION
38:17Why Scurvy hates Patheos Pagan Portal
38:54People with single goals
40:34The awesomeness of the Patheos Pagan Portal is overshadowed by derpy lower-management
41:54The most successful protests we see in textbooks had a lot of involvement from local communities - they weren't one large monolithic group.
43:47Apps as a means of effective communication
44:57People are wondering how Pagans (especially Wiccans) are going to help out
50:06Sometimes Pagans boycott stuff for stupid reasons
45:37Open Hearth Foundation doing cool stuff to essentially be a Pagan Lobby
46:33Online petitions generate awareness, but what are you doing with that awareness?
00:00
46:49Tactics not used by Pagans
47:04Boycotts, and Ed Hubbard's theory
50:06Sometimes Pagans boycott stuff for stupid reasons
51:56Suing the government fading out from common practice among Pagans for national campaigns


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		<title>239: Action and Reaction (Part 1 of 2)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 23:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight we discuss how to get stuff done, how to inspire the masses to assist&#8230; how to create civic action in your favor!  Part 1: The history of Pagan Activism and the WHO, WHAT, WHEN and WHERE of communications &#8211; Part 2 will cover the rest.  Oh yeah, and there be a whole lot of highlighting of the  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight we discuss how to get stuff done, how to inspire the masses to assist&#8230; how to create civic action in your favor!  Part 1: The history of Pagan Activism and the WHO, WHAT, WHEN and WHERE of communications &#8211; Part 2 will cover the rest.  Oh yeah, and there be a whole lot of highlighting of the ineffectiveness of #Occupy and how we can learn from it<br />
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<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Nick of <a href="http://thesatyrsthicket.blogspot.com/">The Satyr&#8217;s Thicket</a>, NRia of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a></p>
<div class="timestamp">01:31</div>
<div class="subject">History of activism and civic involvement among Pagans for Pagan stuff</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:38</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy joins the show</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:44</div>
<div class="subject">More modern example of oh crap reactions</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:58</div>
<div class="subject">Whitehouse online petitions, not quite irrelevant</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:38</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy joins the show</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:44</div>
<div class="subject">More modern example of oh crap reactions</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:58</div>
<div class="subject">Whitehouse online petitions, not quite irrelevant</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:46</div>
<div class="subject">Want data to sell, start an online petition site!</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:46</div>
<div class="subject">Want data to sell, start an online petition site!</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:06</div>
<div class="subject">The benefits of coalitions of Pagan organizations</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:42</div>
<div class="subject">So you need something big done, how to get it done.</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:05</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t wait for permission from the rest of us, and the pros and cons thereof</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:49</div>
<div class="subject">If you can do it yourself, do it &#8211; no need to unnnecessarily draw in people.</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:05</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t wait for permission from the rest of us, and the pros and cons thereof</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:14</div>
<div class="subject">Be mindful if you are enriching the community or not</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:31</div>
<div class="subject">Lets be mindful that not all criticism will be critical and informed, but a complete lack of it should be concerning</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:03</div>
<div class="subject">If you don&#8217;t want the public talking about the stupid crap you do in public, don&#8217;t do it in public</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:16</div>
<div class="subject">Be mindful of when you are a representative of a group</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:59</div>
<div class="subject">A little less feminist, a little more black panther party</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:25</div>
<div class="subject">Nothing ever happens with 100% support, just look at Congress</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:34</div>
<div class="subject">If you build it, people really will come!</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:35</div>
<div class="subject">What is it that you want?  Think about it.</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:20</div>
<div class="subject">Want to move up in socioeconomic status?  Is that your big goal?</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:25</div>
<div class="subject">Verify your POA (Plan of Action) will work</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:48</div>
<div class="subject">Your POA probably should not be part of a comedy sketch if you google it</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:24</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t expect us to do anything for you, or a handout.</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:21</div>
<div class="subject">Marketing is important to any success!  But let&#8217;s clarify marketing.</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:23</div>
<div class="subject">Moving the rulebook aside to get things done to your benefit</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:11</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t kick people out of your organization that are helping you!</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:24</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t expect us to do anything for you, or a handout.</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:17</div>
<div class="subject">People need downtime!</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:31</div>
<div class="subject">Communication: where there is infinite potential for FAIL</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:14</div>
<div class="subject">Fail resonating to parallel inacarnations <img src='http://PaganCenteredPodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </div>
<div class="timestamp">26:43</div>
<div class="subject">Focusing on WHO is communicating the message</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:43</div>
<div class="subject">Alliance in itself is a form of communication</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:44</div>
<div class="subject">Members attending other organizations can reflect on your group</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:42</div>
<div class="subject">Speaking of Jerks&#8230; Credibility!</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:27</div>
<div class="subject">Many communities are small, word spreads fast!</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:40</div>
<div class="subject">WHAT the heck are you saying?</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:38</div>
<div class="subject">Step 3: remove the snark.</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:24</div>
<div class="subject">The secret ingredient to FAIL</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:30</div>
<div class="subject">WHEN you say something is susprisingly relevant!</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:18</div>
<div class="subject">WHERE are you trying to communicate to me?</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:18</div>
<div class="subject">Kony 2012 is a case study of applying everything we are talking about tonight</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:20</div>
<div class="subject">Trollmaster 9000</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:21</div>
<div class="subject">How communication could lead to one questioning your integity.</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:54</div>
<div class="subject">Obligatory Episode 214 reference</div>
<div class="timestamp">55:29</div>
<div class="subject">Using websites for communication</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:42</div>
<div class="subject">Coping with copious stupid</div>
<div class="timestamp">51:30</div>
<div class="subject">For a bunch of people promoting sustainability, many Pagans suck at financial sustainability, but there are examples of those that are good at this.</div>
<div class="timestamp">59:21</div>
<div class="subject">The effectiveness of The Onion</div>
<div class="timestamp">52:19</div>
<div class="subject">Flaming Enemas</div>
<div class="timestamp">54:41</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy Tangent</div>
<div class="timestamp">55:29</div>
<div class="subject">Using websites for communication</div>
<div class="timestamp">57:02</div>
<div class="subject">Hacktivism?</div>
<div class="timestamp">57:38</div>
<div class="subject">Douchebaggery as a means of communication</div>
<div class="timestamp">59:21</div>
<div class="subject">The effectiveness of The Onion</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Dave</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
<ul></ul>
</li>
<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 25 Credits:
<ul>
<li><a href='http://www.archive.org/'>Internet Archive</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Tonight we discuss how to get stuff done, how to inspire the masses to assist... how to create civic action in your favor!  Part 1: The history of Pagan Activism and the WHO, WHAT, WHEN and WHERE of communications - Part 2 will cover the rest.  Oh yeah,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Tonight we discuss how to get stuff done, how to inspire the masses to assist... how to create civic action in your favor!  Part 1: The history of Pagan Activism and the WHO, WHAT, WHEN and WHERE of communications - Part 2 will cover the rest.  Oh yeah, and there be a whole lot of highlighting of the ineffectiveness of #Occupy and how we can learn from it


Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm here" o


Guest Hosts:
Nick of The Satyr's Thicket, NRia of Pagan Men


01:31History of activism and civic involvement among Pagans for Pagan stuff
05:38Scurvy joins the show
05:44More modern example of oh crap reactions
06:58Whitehouse online petitions, not quite irrelevant
05:38Scurvy joins the show
05:44More modern example of oh crap reactions
06:58Whitehouse online petitions, not quite irrelevant
07:46Want data to sell, start an online petition site!
07:46Want data to sell, start an online petition site!
08:06The benefits of coalitions of Pagan organizations
08:42So you need something big done, how to get it done.
09:05Don't wait for permission from the rest of us, and the pros and cons thereof
08:49If you can do it yourself, do it - no need to unnnecessarily draw in people.
09:05Don't wait for permission from the rest of us, and the pros and cons thereof
11:14Be mindful if you are enriching the community or not
13:31Lets be mindful that not all criticism will be critical and informed, but a complete lack of it should be concerning
14:03If you don't want the public talking about the stupid crap you do in public, don't do it in public
14:16Be mindful of when you are a representative of a group
15:59A little less feminist, a little more black panther party
16:25Nothing ever happens with 100% support, just look at Congress
17:34If you build it, people really will come!
18:35What is it that you want?  Think about it.
19:20Want to move up in socioeconomic status?  Is that your big goal?
19:25Verify your POA (Plan of Action) will work
20:48Your POA probably should not be part of a comedy sketch if you google it
24:24Don't expect us to do anything for you, or a handout.
21:21Marketing is important to any success!  But let's clarify marketing.
23:23Moving the rulebook aside to get things done to your benefit
24:11Don't kick people out of your organization that are helping you!
24:24Don't expect us to do anything for you, or a handout.
25:17People need downtime!
25:31Communication: where there is infinite potential for FAIL
26:14Fail resonating to parallel inacarnations :D
26:43Focusing on WHO is communicating the message
27:43Alliance in itself is a form of communication
28:44Members attending other organizations can reflect on your group
31:42Speaking of Jerks... Credibility!
33:27Many communities are small, word spreads fast!
34:40WHAT the heck are you saying?
38:38Step 3: remove the snark.
39:24The secret ingredient to FAIL
43:30WHEN you say something is susprisingly relevant!
44:18WHERE are you trying to communicate to me?
45:18Kony 2012 is a case study of applying everything we are talking about tonight
47:20Trollmaster 9000
48:21How communication could lead to one questioning your integity.
49:54Obligatory Episode 214 reference
55:29Using websites for communication
50:42Coping with copious stupid
51:30For a bunch of people promoting sustainability, many Pagans suck at financial sustainability, but there are examples of those that are good at this.
59:21The effectiveness of The Onion
52:19Flaming Enemas
54:41Scurvy Tangent
55:29Using websites for communication
57:02Hacktivism?
57:38Douchebaggery as a means of communication
59:21The effectiveness of The Onion


Credits

	Post-produced by: Dave
	List of resources used or mentioned:
	PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.
	Season 25 Credits:</itunes:summary>
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		<title>238: Terrorism, a Problem for Pagans?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[pcp238]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Time for our annual IPCOD (International Pagan Coming Out Day) episode.  This year, we discuss Terrorism as it relates to Paganism.


Regular Hosts:
Dave of Pagan News Firehose, Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m here&#8221; of Pagan Roadtrip
Guest Hosts:
Nick of The Satyr&#8217;s Thicket
01:34
Don&#8217;t be a prey animal
01:52
Define  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for our annual IPCOD (<a href="http://pagancomingoutday.org/">International Pagan Coming Out Day</a>) episode.  This year, we discuss Terrorism as it relates to Paganism.<br />
<br />
<span id="more-5897"></span></p>
<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Dave of <a href="http://PaganNewsFirehose.com">Pagan News Firehose</a>, Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m here&#8221; of <a href="/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a></div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Nick of <a href="http://thesatyrsthicket.blogspot.com">The Satyr&#8217;s Thicket</a></div>
<div class="timestamp">01:34</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t be a prey animal</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:52</div>
<div class="subject">Define Terrorism</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:34</div>
<div class="subject">Bullying vs. Terrorism</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:15</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy is a documented time traveler</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:52</div>
<div class="subject">Define Terrorism</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:34</div>
<div class="subject">Bullying vs. Terrorism</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:15</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy is a documented time traveler</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:24</div>
<div class="subject">Define Terrorist</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:24</div>
<div class="subject">Define Terrorist</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:48</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy&#8217;s philosophy of giving opponents the respect they are due.</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:29</div>
<div class="subject">Why does terrorism work?  Do we let ourselves be terrorized?</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:41</div>
<div class="subject">Examples of Terrorism in the context of Paganism and how we can immunize ourselves.</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:20</div>
<div class="subject">National anxiety disorder</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:41</div>
<div class="subject">Examples of Terrorism in the context of Paganism and how we can immunize ourselves.</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:58</div>
<div class="subject">Do not be isolated.</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:34</div>
<div class="subject">Take control of the situation!</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:44</div>
<div class="subject">Plan, rather than fear.</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:59</div>
<div class="subject">Secrets as a means of manipulation</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:06</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t let people hold you being Pagan over your head.</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:40</div>
<div class="subject">Public outreach by Pagan groups and how it can help, but are they doing a good enough job?</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:42</div>
<div class="subject">Dealing with the xenophobic reactions of those of other religious paths.</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:10</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t let people&#8217;s imaginations take control of the situation.</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:50</div>
<div class="subject">People know when you are hiding something.</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:41</div>
<div class="subject">Coming out of the closet, how to do it successfully.</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:02</div>
<div class="subject">Remember, &#8220;normal&#8221; people are freaked out by what we Pagans do.</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:45</div>
<div class="subject">Jesus never ate with undesirables?</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:23</div>
<div class="subject">Procedural issues vs. personal insults</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:47</div>
<div class="subject">Human Resources, and the balancing act they&#8217;re forced into.</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:02</div>
<div class="subject">Is Christmas preferential treatment to some religions?</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:45</div>
<div class="subject">Jesus never ate with undesirables?</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:11</div>
<div class="subject">Give people an adjustment period</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:18</div>
<div class="subject">Be professional with HR</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:49</div>
<div class="subject">Have honest discussion, be accessible and answer questions in a calm and sane way &#8211; don&#8217;t freak out.</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:40</div>
<div class="subject">Don Reimer and Ancient Wiccanism</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:47</div>
<div class="subject">Helplessness complex just fuels emotional BS that lets people terrorize Pagans</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:58</div>
<div class="subject">No need to hate all of Christianity at all.</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:45</div>
<div class="subject">How can the Pagan Community immunize itself from terrorism?  Examples of terrorism in the Pagan community.</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:54</div>
<div class="subject">Steps towards immunization</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:20</div>
<div class="subject">Patheos may save the Pagan community</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:31</div>
<div class="subject">Diarrahea is an emotion</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:48</div>
<div class="subject">Neutering Guns and Planes terrorism</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:19</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t just worry about home invasion, plan for it and do your research.</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:56</div>
<div class="subject">How to not be a target when you have a credible threat</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:03</div>
<div class="subject">Be good friends with your neighbors</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:41</div>
<div class="subject">Martial Arts is good for peer advice and training for a variety of situations</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:00</div>
<div class="subject">Police can be helpful, they do have non-emergency numbers too</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:17</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t forget YouTube and podcasts as a training resource, there&#8217;s no reason you cannot learn</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:26</div>
<div class="subject">Texas is a polite society</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:46</div>
<div class="subject">Seeing a psychologist can be a good idea during a hostile situation.</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:31</div>
<div class="subject">Environmental awareness</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:09</div>
<div class="subject">How people generate hostile situations</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:46</div>
<div class="subject">ROFL @ Pennsylvania 911</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:26</div>
<div class="subject">Texas is a polite society</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:55</div>
<div class="subject">What do you do when a situation isn&#8217;t neutralized for an hour</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:36</div>
<div class="subject">Roll with the situation if things do not going according to plan</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Dave</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
<ul></ul>
</li>
<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 23 Credits:
<ul>
<li><a href='http://www.archive.org/'>Internet Archive</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Time for our annual IPCOD (International Pagan Coming Out Day) episode.  This year, we discuss Terrorism as it relates to Paganism. Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagan News Firehose, Joe "I'm here" of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Time for our annual IPCOD (International Pagan Coming Out Day) episode.  This year, we discuss Terrorism as it relates to Paganism.


Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagan News Firehose, Joe "I'm here" of Pagan Roadtrip


Guest Hosts:
Nick of The Satyr's Thicket

01:34Don't be a prey animal
01:52Define Terrorism
02:34Bullying vs. Terrorism
03:15Scurvy is a documented time traveler
01:52Define Terrorism
02:34Bullying vs. Terrorism
03:15Scurvy is a documented time traveler
04:24Define Terrorist
04:24Define Terrorist
04:48Scurvy's philosophy of giving opponents the respect they are due.
05:29Why does terrorism work?  Do we let ourselves be terrorized?
07:41Examples of Terrorism in the context of Paganism and how we can immunize ourselves.
06:20National anxiety disorder
07:41Examples of Terrorism in the context of Paganism and how we can immunize ourselves.
07:58Do not be isolated.
09:34Take control of the situation!
09:44Plan, rather than fear.
09:59Secrets as a means of manipulation
11:06Don't let people hold you being Pagan over your head.
11:40Public outreach by Pagan groups and how it can help, but are they doing a good enough job?
12:42Dealing with the xenophobic reactions of those of other religious paths.
13:10Don't let people's imaginations take control of the situation.
13:50People know when you are hiding something.
14:41Coming out of the closet, how to do it successfully.
15:02Remember, "normal" people are freaked out by what we Pagans do.
17:45Jesus never ate with undesirables?
15:23Procedural issues vs. personal insults
15:47Human Resources, and the balancing act they're forced into.
17:02Is Christmas preferential treatment to some religions?
17:45Jesus never ate with undesirables?
18:11Give people an adjustment period
18:18Be professional with HR
19:49Have honest discussion, be accessible and answer questions in a calm and sane way - don't freak out.
20:40Don Reimer and Ancient Wiccanism
22:47Helplessness complex just fuels emotional BS that lets people terrorize Pagans
23:58No need to hate all of Christianity at all.
24:45How can the Pagan Community immunize itself from terrorism?  Examples of terrorism in the Pagan community.
27:54Steps towards immunization
28:20Patheos may save the Pagan community
28:31Diarrahea is an emotion
30:48Neutering Guns and Planes terrorism
31:19Don't just worry about home invasion, plan for it and do your research.
33:56How to not be a target when you have a credible threat
36:03Be good friends with your neighbors
36:41Martial Arts is good for peer advice and training for a variety of situations
37:00Police can be helpful, they do have non-emergency numbers too
37:17Don't forget YouTube and podcasts as a training resource, there's no reason you cannot learn
42:26Texas is a polite society
37:46Seeing a psychologist can be a good idea during a hostile situation.
38:31Environmental awareness
40:09How people generate hostile situations
41:46ROFL @ Pennsylvania 911
42:26Texas is a polite society
42:55What do you do when a situation isn't neutralized for an hour
47:36Roll with the situation if things do not going according to plan


Credits

	Post-produced by: Dave
	List of resources used or mentioned:
	PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.
	Season 23 Credits:</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Cast of the Pagan Centered Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>56:16</itunes:duration>
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		<title>237: Sleeping Gryphon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[pcp237]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[We interview Sleeping Gryphon who sells all sorts of cool stuff in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and also on their etsy shop.


Regular Hosts:
Ashlee, Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m here&#8221; of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam
Guest  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We interview Sleeping Gryphon who sells all sorts of cool stuff in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and also on their etsy shop.<br />
<br />
<span id="more-5885"></span></p>
<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Ashlee, Amber of <a href="http://redtailarts.blogspot.com">Red Tail Arts</a>, Branden of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a>, Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m here&#8221; of <a href="/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a>, Sam</div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Sheri of <a href="http://www.etsy.com/shop/SleepingGryphon">Sleeping Gryphon</a>, Miles author of <a href="http://spiralscouts.org/miles">Teaching Witchcraft</a>, NRia of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a></div>
<div class="timestamp">01:24</div>
<div class="subject">Sherry of Sleeping Gryphon</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:46</div>
<div class="subject">Origin of the name Sleeping Gryphon</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:11</div>
<div class="subject">From a family of crafters</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:43</div>
<div class="subject">How long as Sleeping Gryphon been around?</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:46</div>
<div class="subject">Origin of the name Sleeping Gryphon</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:11</div>
<div class="subject">From a family of crafters</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:43</div>
<div class="subject">How long as Sleeping Gryphon been around?</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:14</div>
<div class="subject">The type of crafts one can find at Sleeping Gryphon</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:14</div>
<div class="subject">The type of crafts one can find at Sleeping Gryphon</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:24</div>
<div class="subject">Wall Art</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:11</div>
<div class="subject">Inks</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:28</div>
<div class="subject">Corn husk dolls</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:10</div>
<div class="subject">Wood Burning</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:28</div>
<div class="subject">Corn husk dolls</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:59</div>
<div class="subject">Charm bottles and exploring herbalism</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:15</div>
<div class="subject">New Products in 2012</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:28</div>
<div class="subject">Jewelry</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:12</div>
<div class="subject">Materials used in Jewelry</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:48</div>
<div class="subject">Making jewelry that can stand up to abuse</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:03</div>
<div class="subject">Where do the crystals for the jewelry come from?</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:53</div>
<div class="subject">Embroidery</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:10</div>
<div class="subject">Soft soaps</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:48</div>
<div class="subject">Inspiration for all these items</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:55</div>
<div class="subject">Custom orders: what do you need from a customer to do a custom order?</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:53</div>
<div class="subject">How much lead time should be given for a custom order?</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:49</div>
<div class="subject">Describe your ideal customer</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:31</div>
<div class="subject">Custom bottles</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:56</div>
<div class="subject">Easier to do do something you were inspired by or custom work inspired by others?</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:47</div>
<div class="subject">Customer satisfaction of those who suck at giving custom orders</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:49</div>
<div class="subject">Describe your ideal customer</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:04</div>
<div class="subject">What can a customer do to help you if they don&#8217;t know what they want.</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:45</div>
<div class="subject">Making Art vs. Having a Craft</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:45</div>
<div class="subject">Sleeping Gryphon is exclusively on Etsy at the moment</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:15</div>
<div class="subject">Expanding into physical vending</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:24</div>
<div class="subject">The joy of a first sale to someone one doesn&#8217;t know</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Dave</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
<ul></ul>
</li>
<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 23 Credits:
<ul>
<li><a href='http://www.archive.org/'>Internet Archive</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<itunes:subtitle>We interview Sleeping Gryphon who sells all sorts of cool stuff in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and also on their etsy shop. Regular Hosts:Ashlee, Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT),</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>We interview Sleeping Gryphon who sells all sorts of cool stuff in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and also on their etsy shop.


Regular Hosts:Ashlee, Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm here" of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam


Guest Hosts:
Sheri of Sleeping Gryphon, Miles author of Teaching Witchcraft, NRia of Pagan Men


01:24Sherry of Sleeping Gryphon
01:46Origin of the name Sleeping Gryphon
02:11From a family of crafters
02:43How long as Sleeping Gryphon been around?
01:46Origin of the name Sleeping Gryphon
02:11From a family of crafters
02:43How long as Sleeping Gryphon been around?
03:14The type of crafts one can find at Sleeping Gryphon
03:14The type of crafts one can find at Sleeping Gryphon
03:24Wall Art
04:11Inks
09:28Corn husk dolls
05:10Wood Burning
09:28Corn husk dolls
10:59Charm bottles and exploring herbalism
15:15New Products in 2012
15:28Jewelry
16:12Materials used in Jewelry
16:48Making jewelry that can stand up to abuse
17:03Where do the crystals for the jewelry come from?
17:53Embroidery
19:10Soft soaps
19:48Inspiration for all these items
20:55Custom orders: what do you need from a customer to do a custom order?
21:53How much lead time should be given for a custom order?
28:49Describe your ideal customer
23:31Custom bottles
24:56Easier to do do something you were inspired by or custom work inspired by others?
25:47Customer satisfaction of those who suck at giving custom orders
28:49Describe your ideal customer
30:04What can a customer do to help you if they don't know what they want.
32:45Making Art vs. Having a Craft
33:45Sleeping Gryphon is exclusively on Etsy at the moment
34:15Expanding into physical vending
40:24The joy of a first sale to someone one doesn't know

Credits

	Post-produced by: Dave
	List of resources used or mentioned:
	PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.
	Season 23 Credits:</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Cast of the Pagan Centered Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>46:32</itunes:duration>
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		<title>236: Listener Feedback Fall 2011</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All the questions you asked us in the Fall of 2011 &#8211; they&#8217;re in this episode.  Enjoy the potpourri of discussion.


Regular Hosts:
Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m here&#8221; of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam
Guest Hosts:
NRia of  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the questions you asked us in the Fall of 2011 &#8211; they&#8217;re in this episode.  Enjoy the potpourri of discussion.<br />
<br />
<span id="more-5883"></span></p>
<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Amber of <a href="http://redtailarts.blogspot.com">Red Tail Arts</a>, Branden of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a>, Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m here&#8221; of <a href="/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a>, Sam</div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">NRia of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a></p>
<div class="timestamp">01:14</div>
<div class="subject">We make fun of the accuracy or lack thereof with veterans.com</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:03</div>
<div class="subject">Amber&#8217;s acquired NRia-isms</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:29</div>
<div class="subject">Feedback regarding having entities working with them.</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:30</div>
<div class="subject">Feedback of a place that has a very negative energy and possible explanations</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:03</div>
<div class="subject">Amber&#8217;s acquired NRia-isms</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:29</div>
<div class="subject">Feedback regarding having entities working with them.</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:30</div>
<div class="subject">Feedback of a place that has a very negative energy and possible explanations</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:10</div>
<div class="subject">Some people go through crazy stuff, some just play things up for attention</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:53</div>
<div class="subject">Remember to not be like episode 86</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:58</div>
<div class="subject">It&#8217;s healthy to mistrust to an extent</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:45</div>
<div class="subject">Christian baggage in Wicca</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:01</div>
<div class="subject">Skepticism: how are Wiccans different from Christians?</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:45</div>
<div class="subject">Christian baggage in Wicca</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:15</div>
<div class="subject">Spiritually immature identity issues</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:33</div>
<div class="subject">Take care of yourself if you have hate and discontent with where you were prior to where you are now.</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:05</div>
<div class="subject">Practices between Wiccans and Christians are&#8230; different?</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:39</div>
<div class="subject">Anger or observation?</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:09</div>
<div class="subject">Wiccans reclaimed many old Christian practices, hence many similarities</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:05</div>
<div class="subject">General viewpoints of &#8220;Paganism&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:52</div>
<div class="subject">Attitude of question: looking for a difference?  transitioning too fast?</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:33</div>
<div class="subject">Maybe those of us who are Pagan for a while tone down our experiences from our initial transition periods too much</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:06</div>
<div class="subject">Are good Wiccans also good Christians?  Does this speak to an overlap of the two?</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:42</div>
<div class="subject">Joe&#8217;s observation: Why is it so many Wiccans are former Catholics and why do they understand the Bible better than many Christians?</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:20</div>
<div class="subject">In Catholic practice, metaphysics is deemed evil &#8211; Wicca is accepting of it.</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:55</div>
<div class="subject">Advice for items to incorporate into a Samhain ritual</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:34</div>
<div class="subject">Wicca is the gateway religion, and why this is a case</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:49</div>
<div class="subject">Quick analysis of the Latin Cross as a Pagan symbol</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:30</div>
<div class="subject">Much of what we are told is Christian is from a Pagan path of some sort, hence overlap</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:55</div>
<div class="subject">Advice for items to incorporate into a Samhain ritual</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:51</div>
<div class="subject">Dave recaps typical Wiccan practice of Samhain</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:12</div>
<div class="subject">Feedback question: Experiences with the wind as an entity.</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:28</div>
<div class="subject">First, analyzing if you&#8217;re insane or not</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:44</div>
<div class="subject">Established mythology on the subject</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:18</div>
<div class="subject">Remember you are viewing things from a human perspective and some things may not be translating properly with respect to love</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:54</div>
<div class="subject">Honoring/worshipping personal patron/matron deities?</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:23</div>
<div class="subject">Research is a good place to start.</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:28</div>
<div class="subject">When research may result in getting inaccurate information</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:37</div>
<div class="subject">Sometimes deities are not that strict, and be mindful that times change</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:00</div>
<div class="subject">Anubis and Burger King</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:27</div>
<div class="subject">How you learn how to cook.</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:48</div>
<div class="subject">Lilith: verifying if a message actually came from her and how to remember a message she sent.</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:41</div>
<div class="subject">*69 Ritual Advice from Scurvy</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:07</div>
<div class="subject">Feedback: we want more Pagan Men!  Shamanic Wiccans &#8211; finding them.</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:29</div>
<div class="subject">Scurv reacts to having a fan.</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:50</div>
<div class="subject">Feedback question: deitities visiting the physical plane like it does in some mythological stories.  Also, spells etc. from native languages</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:09</div>
<div class="subject">Remember senses can be manipulated</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:39</div>
<div class="subject">Can names be non-verbal?</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:29</div>
<div class="subject">How to do research for ancient Pagan practices in Europe</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:42</div>
<div class="subject">New Hope, PA reference</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:01</div>
<div class="subject">People get very upset if you clean their onions.</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:32</div>
<div class="subject">Post-produce feedback to otherkin ep from YouTube Here</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:41</div>
<div class="subject">Clarification on our views of Otherkin with regards to true name vs. craft name etc.</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:39</div>
<div class="subject">Can names be non-verbal?</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:20</div>
<div class="subject">Difference between unpronouncable vs. non-verbal</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:33</div>
<div class="subject">Energy signatures can be masked/copied</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:01</div>
<div class="subject">People get very upset if you clean their onions.</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:38</div>
<div class="subject">Names again</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:58</div>
<div class="subject">Crazy of the week</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:18</div>
<div class="subject">PCP Effect</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:45</div>
<div class="subject">Firefox for Wiccans?</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Dave</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
<ul></ul>
</li>
<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 23 Credits:
<ul>
<li><a href='http://www.archive.org/'>Internet Archive</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<itunes:subtitle>All the questions you asked us in the Fall of 2011 - they're in this episode.  Enjoy the potpourri of discussion. Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT),</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>All the questions you asked us in the Fall of 2011 - they're in this episode.  Enjoy the potpourri of discussion.


Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm here" of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam


Guest Hosts:
NRia of Pagan Men

01:14We make fun of the accuracy or lack thereof with veterans.com
03:03Amber's acquired NRia-isms
03:29Feedback regarding having entities working with them.
05:30Feedback of a place that has a very negative energy and possible explanations
03:03Amber's acquired NRia-isms
03:29Feedback regarding having entities working with them.
05:30Feedback of a place that has a very negative energy and possible explanations
07:10Some people go through crazy stuff, some just play things up for attention
07:53Remember to not be like episode 86
08:58It's healthy to mistrust to an extent
11:45Christian baggage in Wicca
10:01Skepticism: how are Wiccans different from Christians?
11:45Christian baggage in Wicca
12:15Spiritually immature identity issues
13:33Take care of yourself if you have hate and discontent with where you were prior to where you are now.
14:05Practices between Wiccans and Christians are... different?
14:39Anger or observation?
15:09Wiccans reclaimed many old Christian practices, hence many similarities
16:05General viewpoints of "Paganism"
16:52Attitude of question: looking for a difference?  transitioning too fast?
17:33Maybe those of us who are Pagan for a while tone down our experiences from our initial transition periods too much
18:06Are good Wiccans also good Christians?  Does this speak to an overlap of the two?
18:42Joe's observation: Why is it so many Wiccans are former Catholics and why do they understand the Bible better than many Christians?
19:20In Catholic practice, metaphysics is deemed evil - Wicca is accepting of it.
20:55Advice for items to incorporate into a Samhain ritual
19:34Wicca is the gateway religion, and why this is a case
19:49Quick analysis of the Latin Cross as a Pagan symbol
20:30Much of what we are told is Christian is from a Pagan path of some sort, hence overlap
20:55Advice for items to incorporate into a Samhain ritual
21:51Dave recaps typical Wiccan practice of Samhain
24:12Feedback question: Experiences with the wind as an entity.
26:28First, analyzing if you're insane or not
26:44Established mythology on the subject
28:18Remember you are viewing things from a human perspective and some things may not be translating properly with respect to love
29:54Honoring/worshipping personal patron/matron deities?
30:23Research is a good place to start.
32:28When research may result in getting inaccurate information
33:37Sometimes deities are not that strict, and be mindful that times change
34:00Anubis and Burger King
34:27How you learn how to cook.
35:48Lilith: verifying if a message actually came from her and how to remember a message she sent.
36:41*69 Ritual Advice from Scurvy
37:07Feedback: we want more Pagan Men!  Shamanic Wiccans - finding them.
38:29Scurv reacts to having a fan.
38:50Feedback question: deitities visiting the physical plane like it does in some mythological stories.  Also, spells etc. from native languages
40:09Remember senses can be manipulated
46:39Can names be non-verbal?
40:29How to do research for ancient Pagan practices in Europe
42:42New Hope, PA reference
48:01People get very upset if you clean their onions.
44:32Post-produce feedback to otherkin ep from YouTube Here
44:41Clarification on our views of Otherkin with regards to true name vs. craft name etc.
46:39Can names be non-verbal?
47:20Difference between unpronouncable vs. non-verbal
47:33Energy signatures can be masked/copied
48:01People get very upset if you clean their onions.
48:38Names again
48:58Crazy of the week
49:18PCP Effect
49:45Firefox for Wiccans?


Credits

	Post-produced by: Dave
	List of resources used or mentioned:
</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Cast of the Pagan Centered Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
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		<title>235: Reacting to Being Hurt (Part 2)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 23:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is our first recording after Pantheacon Drama Fest 2012 and rather than commenting on the actual events like every other Pagan media outlet we&#8217;re going to use this as a &#8220;teaching moment&#8221; for how to cope with being hurt.  This is part 1 of a 2 part discussion.


Regular Hosts:
Dave of Pagans  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is our first recording after Pantheacon Drama Fest 2012 and rather than commenting on the actual events like every other Pagan media outlet we&#8217;re going to use this as a &#8220;teaching moment&#8221; for how to cope with being hurt.  This is part 1 of a 2 part discussion.<br />
<br />
<span id="more-5654"></span></p>
<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m not here&#8221; of <a href="/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a></div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Amanda, Barrett of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Myst, Nick of <a href="http://thesatyrsthicket.blogspot.com">The Satyr&#8217;s Thicket</a>, NRia of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a></p>
<div class="timestamp">01:20</div>
<div class="subject">The context of a conflict is very important</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:39</div>
<div class="subject">Context: Many see the GLBT and Pagan community as a single community.   How can something be anti-GLBT and still be Pagan is the implied question.</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:46</div>
<div class="subject">How other Pagan conferences handle the GLBT situation</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:52</div>
<div class="subject">Setting vs. Meeting expectations</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:39</div>
<div class="subject">Context: Many see the GLBT and Pagan community as a single community.   How can something be anti-GLBT and still be Pagan is the implied question.</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:46</div>
<div class="subject">How other Pagan conferences handle the GLBT situation</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:52</div>
<div class="subject">Setting vs. Meeting expectations</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:48</div>
<div class="subject">How does full blown conflict begin?</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:48</div>
<div class="subject">How does full blown conflict begin?</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:15</div>
<div class="subject">When individuals engage in conflict, ultimately it is the community that can get hurt</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:38</div>
<div class="subject">The disappataing sphere of damage</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:11</div>
<div class="subject">The art of being human is rising above being human</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:42</div>
<div class="subject">People like taking sides when they become aware of a conflict</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:11</div>
<div class="subject">The art of being human is rising above being human</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:53</div>
<div class="subject">Objective observers can be useful in a conflict, become one.</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:46</div>
<div class="subject">Unintended trolling</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:06</div>
<div class="subject">Beware Ford-Chevy Debates</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:22</div>
<div class="subject">Actually filter what you communicate</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:57</div>
<div class="subject">Wasting stupid amounts of energy on the unwinnable or ultimately irrelevant</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:08</div>
<div class="subject">What happens if you just have a stubborn person?</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:52</div>
<div class="subject">If it&#8217;s put in front of you and you can learn a lesson, do so.</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:59</div>
<div class="subject">The Racist Paradox: All who hate racists are essentially racists</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:28</div>
<div class="subject">Hate is a wasted effort, but is needed in small quantities</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:23</div>
<div class="subject">A lack of critical analysis leading to unnecessary conflict</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:11</div>
<div class="subject">How does this cost a group of friends?</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:30</div>
<div class="subject">Making private matters public annoys people</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:32</div>
<div class="subject">Some people have bad defensive mechanisms, be aware if you are one of these people</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:11</div>
<div class="subject">Team mentality and conflict and how it causes more damage</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:42</div>
<div class="subject">Let us know you deal with the derp in your life that you have to deal with, no violence please &#8211; joe@PaganCenteredPodcast.com</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:30</div>
<div class="subject">Making private matters public annoys people</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:45</div>
<div class="subject">Dragging more people into a conflict is unlikely to result in the conflict resolving to your satisfaction.</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:14</div>
<div class="subject">Violating trust by means of not adhering to assumptions made about you</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:57</div>
<div class="subject">Being the better person</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:42</div>
<div class="subject">Being the better person matters most when you are speaking on behalf of others/an organization</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:32</div>
<div class="subject">Another example of Scurvy&#8217;s heavily abusive workplace</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:06</div>
<div class="subject">Army ten point vets punch people in the back</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:42</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t let people get away with anything, too much compassion makes you a doormat.</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:27</div>
<div class="subject">If you&#8217;re going to say you&#8217;re the better person, actually be the better person!</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:48</div>
<div class="subject">When is being an ass being the better person?</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:14</div>
<div class="subject">What about checking back occasionally?</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:25</div>
<div class="subject">People having a chance to turn things around</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:42</div>
<div class="subject">Scurv introspects on being hurt personally</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:02</div>
<div class="subject">Shameless plug for PaganNewsFirehose.com</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:53</div>
<div class="subject">The evolution of Pagan news towards having 50+ Pagan news articles per day that are interesting</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:39</div>
<div class="subject">Lessons to learn from having a nervous breakdown</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:36</div>
<div class="subject">Knowing what you should and should not do</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:07</div>
<div class="subject">Method for avoiding trollbait</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:18</div>
<div class="subject">Trust isn&#8217;t something that if someone violates once, you should dump them.</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:17</div>
<div class="subject">You are unable to conceal emotional issues</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:07</div>
<div class="subject">Blacklisting people and permanent vs. temporary</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:56</div>
<div class="subject">Tactics known not to work in community healing</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:08</div>
<div class="subject">Thinking too much can create a problem that wasn&#8217;t there in the first place.</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:43</div>
<div class="subject">Can you sing?  We need you for a PCP Music Video!  pcp@PaganCenteredPodcast.com</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:18</div>
<div class="subject">Trust isn&#8217;t something that if someone violates once, you should dump them.</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:12</div>
<div class="subject">Healing wounds</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:31</div>
<div class="subject">Like a Boss!</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:56</div>
<div class="subject">Tactics known not to work in community healing</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:41</div>
<div class="subject">Flogging the instigator, and why it&#8217;s a bad idea</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:25</div>
<div class="subject">Camping is not a legitimate strategy!</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:09</div>
<div class="subject">Tactics that might work with resolving conflict</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:38</div>
<div class="subject">Time by itself doesn&#8217;t heal wounds but it does help</div>
<div class="timestamp">51:08</div>
<div class="subject">Assimilation</div>
<div class="timestamp">52:30</div>
<div class="subject">Physical proximity</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Dave</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
<ul></ul>
</li>
<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 23 Credits:
<ul>
<li><a href='http://www.archive.org/'>Internet Archive</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This is our first recording after Pantheacon Drama Fest 2012 and rather than commenting on the actual events like every other Pagan media outlet we're going to use this as a "teaching moment" for how to cope with being hurt.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This is our first recording after Pantheacon Drama Fest 2012 and rather than commenting on the actual events like every other Pagan media outlet we're going to use this as a "teaching moment" for how to cope with being hurt.  This is part 1 of a 2 part discussion.


Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm not here" of Pagan Roadtrip


Guest Hosts:
Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Myst, Nick of The Satyr's Thicket, NRia of Pagan Men

01:20The context of a conflict is very important
01:39Context: Many see the GLBT and Pagan community as a single community.   How can something be anti-GLBT and still be Pagan is the implied question.
02:46How other Pagan conferences handle the GLBT situation
03:52Setting vs. Meeting expectations
01:39Context: Many see the GLBT and Pagan community as a single community.   How can something be anti-GLBT and still be Pagan is the implied question.
02:46How other Pagan conferences handle the GLBT situation
03:52Setting vs. Meeting expectations
04:48How does full blown conflict begin?
04:48How does full blown conflict begin?
05:15When individuals engage in conflict, ultimately it is the community that can get hurt
05:38The disappataing sphere of damage
07:11The art of being human is rising above being human
06:42People like taking sides when they become aware of a conflict
07:11The art of being human is rising above being human
07:53Objective observers can be useful in a conflict, become one.
08:46Unintended trolling
09:06Beware Ford-Chevy Debates
09:22Actually filter what you communicate
09:57Wasting stupid amounts of energy on the unwinnable or ultimately irrelevant
11:08What happens if you just have a stubborn person?
12:52If it's put in front of you and you can learn a lesson, do so.
12:59The Racist Paradox: All who hate racists are essentially racists
14:28Hate is a wasted effort, but is needed in small quantities
17:23A lack of critical analysis leading to unnecessary conflict
19:11How does this cost a group of friends?
23:30Making private matters public annoys people
19:32Some people have bad defensive mechanisms, be aware if you are one of these people
20:11Team mentality and conflict and how it causes more damage
22:42Let us know you deal with the derp in your life that you have to deal with, no violence please - joe@PaganCenteredPodcast.com
23:30Making private matters public annoys people
23:45Dragging more people into a conflict is unlikely to result in the conflict resolving to your satisfaction.
24:14Violating trust by means of not adhering to assumptions made about you
24:57Being the better person
25:42Being the better person matters most when you are speaking on behalf of others/an organization
26:32Another example of Scurvy's heavily abusive workplace
27:06Army ten point vets punch people in the back
27:42Don't let people get away with anything, too much compassion makes you a doormat.
28:27If you're going to say you're the better person, actually be the better person!
28:48When is being an ass being the better person?
30:14What about checking back occasionally?
32:25People having a chance to turn things around
33:42Scurv introspects on being hurt personally
35:02Shameless plug for PaganNewsFirehose.com
35:53The evolution of Pagan news towards having 50+ Pagan news articles per day that are interesting
36:39Lessons to learn from having a nervous breakdown
37:36Knowing what you should and should not do
38:07Method for avoiding trollbait
42:18Trust isn't something that if someone violates once, you should dump them.
38:17You are unable to conceal emotional issues
39:07Blacklisting people and permanent vs. temporary
45:56Tactics known not to work in community healing
40:08Thinking too much can create a problem that wasn't there in the first place.
40:43Can you sing?  We need you for a PCP Music Video!  pcp@PaganCenteredPodcast.com
42:18Trust isn't something that if someone violates once,</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>56:43</itunes:duration>
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		<title>234: Reacting to Being Hurt (Part 1)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is our first recording after Pantheacon Drama Fest 2012 and rather than commenting on the actual events like every other Pagan media outlet we&#8217;re going to use this as a &#8220;teaching moment&#8221; for how to cope with being hurt.  This is part 1 of a 2 part discussion.


Regular Hosts:
Dave of Pagans  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is our first recording after Pantheacon Drama Fest 2012 and rather than commenting on the actual events like every other Pagan media outlet we&#8217;re going to use this as a &#8220;teaching moment&#8221; for how to cope with being hurt.  This is part 1 of a 2 part discussion.<br />
<br />
<span id="more-5652"></span></p>
<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m not here&#8221; of <a href="/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a></div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Amanda, Barrett of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Myst, NRia of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a></p>
<div class="timestamp">02:20</div>
<div class="subject">Joe&#8217;s 2 friends that talked about each other to him and then they ganged up on him.</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:41</div>
<div class="subject">Joe hates hypocracy</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:50</div>
<div class="subject">Joe&#8217;s heuristic: If I might have done that in your situation, then you&#8217;re okay.</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:10</div>
<div class="subject">Joe doesn&#8217;t get emotionally hurt very often.</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:41</div>
<div class="subject">Joe hates hypocracy</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:50</div>
<div class="subject">Joe&#8217;s heuristic: If I might have done that in your situation, then you&#8217;re okay.</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:10</div>
<div class="subject">Joe doesn&#8217;t get emotionally hurt very often.</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:27</div>
<div class="subject">How Joe is fixing his emotional issues</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:05</div>
<div class="subject">Community drama is the end result of individuals being hurt</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:03</div>
<div class="subject">What is Trust?</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:12</div>
<div class="subject">What is friendship?  Are there different types of friends?</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:00</div>
<div class="subject">Are there different types of trust?</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:12</div>
<div class="subject">What is friendship?  Are there different types of friends?</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:37</div>
<div class="subject">Community!  The context in which friendships occur.</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:53</div>
<div class="subject">Trust as it relates to friendship, the topic that got Patheos management&#8217;s panties in a twist</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:23</div>
<div class="subject">People aren&#8217;t all good, people aren&#8217;t all bad</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:53</div>
<div class="subject">Example of someone you like but do not trust</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:38</div>
<div class="subject">People you trust but do not like</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:23</div>
<div class="subject">Joe doesn&#8217;t blindly like Marines anymore</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:40</div>
<div class="subject">When capabilities and personalities clash</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:01</div>
<div class="subject">Having friends you can&#8217;t afford to be close to anymore</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:54</div>
<div class="subject">Confronting people you can&#8217;t be around anymore</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:47</div>
<div class="subject">Being Hurt, ways of having trust broken</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:58</div>
<div class="subject">If you you are ever more than 50% sure you are right, you are wrong</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:37</div>
<div class="subject">Sharing of secret information is also an abuse of trust, including medical conditions</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:27</div>
<div class="subject">Humans are not made to find truth, they are made to win.</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:29</div>
<div class="subject">Abuse of trust, one way of having trust broken</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:17</div>
<div class="subject">Dave has no tolerance for lies</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:37</div>
<div class="subject">Sharing of secret information is also an abuse of trust, including medical conditions</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:32</div>
<div class="subject">Using friends for professional gain, see episode 214</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:49</div>
<div class="subject">Using friends can be a good thing though in some circumstances where they are a willing party</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:30</div>
<div class="subject">Abusing trust: exceeding boundaries of your friendship</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:45</div>
<div class="subject">Abusing trust: forced physical activity</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:04</div>
<div class="subject">Abusing trust: forced insertion into awkward social situation</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:01</div>
<div class="subject">Laughter as strees release</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:30</div>
<div class="subject">Pushing people slightly outside their boundaries can be good, pushing very far can be bad</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:43</div>
<div class="subject">Trollbait</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:01</div>
<div class="subject">Define trollbait</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:48</div>
<div class="subject">Maslow&#8217;s Hierarchy of Needs as it relates to trolling</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:30</div>
<div class="subject">DO NOT GO TO 4CHAN</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:03</div>
<div class="subject">Example of Epic Trolling</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:22</div>
<div class="subject">South Park as it relates to Z. Budapest</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:53</div>
<div class="subject">How are the genetic requirements being enforced?</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:22</div>
<div class="subject">Pagan Men obligatory ad</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:18</div>
<div class="subject">How do we deal with people that break trust with us?</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:03</div>
<div class="subject">What about friends who have had trust broken with them?</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:20</div>
<div class="subject">The ultimate destruction of community: riots &#8211; how do they happen?</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:42</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t make yourself stupid in the face of strong evidence</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:08</div>
<div class="subject">Feel welcome to leave from being between two friends</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:53</div>
<div class="subject">Derpiness example</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:48</div>
<div class="subject">Case Study: LA Riots</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:41</div>
<div class="subject">Emotional but justified response</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:20</div>
<div class="subject">The ultimate destruction of community: riots &#8211; how do they happen?</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:27</div>
<div class="subject">People lose their checks and balances when they lose their doubt</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:37</div>
<div class="subject">Derp and emotional rage</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:53</div>
<div class="subject">Derpiness example</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:30</div>
<div class="subject">Reductio ad adsurdum for gender-specific rituals</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:52</div>
<div class="subject">Genetic requirements? There better be genetic testing!</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:53</div>
<div class="subject">Time helps with conflict, and most people thought this cis vs. trans conflict was resolved</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:23</div>
<div class="subject">Are women more discriminatory against trans than men?</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:55</div>
<div class="subject">Expecting Pagan leaders to grow balls?</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:13</div>
<div class="subject">Z Budapest is not alone, but the way Pantheacon handled the situation was poor.</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Dave</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
<ul></ul>
</li>
<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 23 Credits:
<ul>
<li><a href='http://www.archive.org/'>Internet Archive</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This is our first recording after Pantheacon Drama Fest 2012 and rather than commenting on the actual events like every other Pagan media outlet we're going to use this as a "teaching moment" for how to cope with being hurt.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This is our first recording after Pantheacon Drama Fest 2012 and rather than commenting on the actual events like every other Pagan media outlet we're going to use this as a "teaching moment" for how to cope with being hurt.  This is part 1 of a 2 part discussion.


Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm not here" of Pagan Roadtrip


Guest Hosts:
Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Myst, NRia of Pagan Men

02:20Joe's 2 friends that talked about each other to him and then they ganged up on him.
02:41Joe hates hypocracy
02:50Joe's heuristic: If I might have done that in your situation, then you're okay.
03:10Joe doesn't get emotionally hurt very often.
02:41Joe hates hypocracy
02:50Joe's heuristic: If I might have done that in your situation, then you're okay.
03:10Joe doesn't get emotionally hurt very often.
03:27How Joe is fixing his emotional issues
04:05Community drama is the end result of individuals being hurt
05:03What is Trust?
07:12What is friendship?  Are there different types of friends?
06:00Are there different types of trust?
07:12What is friendship?  Are there different types of friends?
09:37Community!  The context in which friendships occur.
09:53Trust as it relates to friendship, the topic that got Patheos management's panties in a twist
10:23People aren't all good, people aren't all bad
10:53Example of someone you like but do not trust
12:38People you trust but do not like
13:23Joe doesn't blindly like Marines anymore
14:40When capabilities and personalities clash
16:01Having friends you can't afford to be close to anymore
16:54Confronting people you can't be around anymore
17:47Being Hurt, ways of having trust broken
17:58If you you are ever more than 50% sure you are right, you are wrong
20:37Sharing of secret information is also an abuse of trust, including medical conditions
18:27Humans are not made to find truth, they are made to win.
19:29Abuse of trust, one way of having trust broken
20:17Dave has no tolerance for lies
20:37Sharing of secret information is also an abuse of trust, including medical conditions
21:32Using friends for professional gain, see episode 214
21:49Using friends can be a good thing though in some circumstances where they are a willing party
22:30Abusing trust: exceeding boundaries of your friendship
22:45Abusing trust: forced physical activity
23:04Abusing trust: forced insertion into awkward social situation
24:01Laughter as strees release
24:30Pushing people slightly outside their boundaries can be good, pushing very far can be bad
27:43Trollbait
28:01Define trollbait
28:48Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs as it relates to trolling
29:30DO NOT GO TO 4CHAN
30:03Example of Epic Trolling
31:22South Park as it relates to Z. Budapest
35:53How are the genetic requirements being enforced?
37:22Pagan Men obligatory ad
38:18How do we deal with people that break trust with us?
39:03What about friends who have had trust broken with them?
43:20The ultimate destruction of community: riots - how do they happen?
39:42Don't make yourself stupid in the face of strong evidence
40:08Feel welcome to leave from being between two friends
45:53Derpiness example
40:48Case Study: LA Riots
41:41Emotional but justified response
43:20The ultimate destruction of community: riots - how do they happen?
45:27People lose their checks and balances when they lose their doubt
45:37Derp and emotional rage
45:53Derpiness example
46:30Reductio ad adsurdum for gender-specific rituals
47:52Genetic requirements? There better be genetic testing!
48:53Time helps with conflict, and most people thought this cis vs. trans conflict was resolved
49:23Are women more discriminatory against trans than men?
49:55Expecting Pagan leaders to grow balls?
50:13Z Budapest is not alone, but the way Pantheacon handled the situation was poor.

Credits

	Post-produced by: Dave
	List of resources used or mentioned:
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		<itunes:author>Cast of the Pagan Centered Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>53:40</itunes:duration>
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		<title>233: Pagans Want Predators (Part 2)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 23:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight we conclude our discussion on topic of Pagans being too polite to tell predators to go away.  This we go into how both Pagans and the law protect proven and known predators.


Regular Hosts:
Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m not here&#8221; of Pagan  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight we conclude our discussion on topic of Pagans being too polite to tell predators to go away.  This we go into how both Pagans and the law protect proven and known predators.<br />
<br />
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<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m not here&#8221; of <a href="/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a></div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Amanda, Barrett of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Myst, Snooze Possum of <a href="http://snoozepossum.blogspot.com/">Hedgehog Stole My Beer!</a></p>
<div class="timestamp">01:13</div>
<div class="subject">Scurv recaps the situation</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:13</div>
<div class="subject">Community passive endorsement of predatory behavior</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:58</div>
<div class="subject">Pagans wanting to heal known confirmed sexual predators</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:28</div>
<div class="subject">Pagan Pride Day and their endorsement of predatory behavior</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:13</div>
<div class="subject">Community passive endorsement of predatory behavior</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:58</div>
<div class="subject">Pagans wanting to heal known confirmed sexual predators</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:28</div>
<div class="subject">Pagan Pride Day and their endorsement of predatory behavior</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:43</div>
<div class="subject">Contingent of a Pagan community wanted an admitted Seuxal Predator to do childrens workshops at Pagan Pride Day</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:43</div>
<div class="subject">Contingent of a Pagan community wanted an admitted Seuxal Predator to do childrens workshops at Pagan Pride Day</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:30</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy thought exercise</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:29</div>
<div class="subject">Sexual predators who are recovering have a prescribed regimen of things to do and not do to recover.</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:46</div>
<div class="subject">Magic bullet of love is irresponsible</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:12</div>
<div class="subject">Predators that handle their problem responsibly</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:46</div>
<div class="subject">Magic bullet of love is irresponsible</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:05</div>
<div class="subject">Actually taking a risky position vs. the sheep that just want to follow the winning team</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:37</div>
<div class="subject">The failure of Pagans to realize they are passively endorsing the rape of little children</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:59</div>
<div class="subject">Skirting around lible/slander laws protecting known predators</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:41</div>
<div class="subject">Reputation is important!  There&#8217;s a reason the Asatru are such a PITA about this!</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:16</div>
<div class="subject">Combination of Pagans who are Pagan for non-conformity&#8217;s sake &#038; people not wanting to be wrong.</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:36</div>
<div class="subject">Be the change you want to see</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:36</div>
<div class="subject">If a person raises a red flag here, should we see if they&#8217;ve raised red flags elsewhere?</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:18</div>
<div class="subject">Vetting</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:39</div>
<div class="subject">When it is appropriate to vet someone?</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:45</div>
<div class="subject">Role of a parole officer</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:05</div>
<div class="subject">Knowing when you have not thought this through</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:53</div>
<div class="subject">Hypocracy of Pagan sexual attitudes</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:43</div>
<div class="subject">What are Priestess Wings?</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:08</div>
<div class="subject">Trying to not have sexual predators in a community whose foundation includes writings including rape and incest</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:23</div>
<div class="subject">Confused and sticky in a jail cell in Tiajuana</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:53</div>
<div class="subject">Hypocracy of Pagan sexual attitudes</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:31</div>
<div class="subject">Pagan Groupthink</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:55</div>
<div class="subject">Exponging &#8220;Penn State Syndrome&#8221; from the Pagan Community</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:22</div>
<div class="subject">Christians are out to get us &#8211; is it largely self-imposed (for most, admittedly not all)?</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:01</div>
<div class="subject">The &#8220;We must accept everyone&#8221; philosophy</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:00</div>
<div class="subject">The Dave Test</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:30</div>
<div class="subject">Truth is sensational enough, media dosn&#8217;t need to sensationalize on top of it</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:09</div>
<div class="subject">The bigger the mistakes you let someone get away with, the bigger the mistakes that person will make</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:06</div>
<div class="subject">Establish a relationship with law enforcement regardless of how much you don&#8217;t want to</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:41</div>
<div class="subject">Pagans are afraid of interacting with local law enforcement</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:37</div>
<div class="subject">How local Pagans handled Don Reimer talking to the local Police, things to learn from it</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:26</div>
<div class="subject">Law Enforcement relationships give the biggest impact</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:37</div>
<div class="subject">Where has Peter Dybing been?</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:48</div>
<div class="subject">Can Pagans work with Pagan law enforcement?</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:08</div>
<div class="subject">Is Officers of Avalon hurting the situation or is this not really their place?</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:46</div>
<div class="subject">Southern Poverty Law Center</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:20</div>
<div class="subject">Pagan leaders NEED to establish PERSONAL relationships with law enforcement, don&#8217;t rely on entities at this point.</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:56</div>
<div class="subject">Police isn&#8217;t just about crime</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:44</div>
<div class="subject">Do not passively endorse, elaboration.</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:33</div>
<div class="subject">Community building with the police</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:55</div>
<div class="subject">Living in our communities as Pagans</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:17</div>
<div class="subject">Be ready to be incorrect, but doubt is not an excuse for inaction</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:13</div>
<div class="subject">Be part of your community, and that includes having a relationship with the police department.</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:32</div>
<div class="subject">Good relations with the police is an excellent predator repellant</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:44</div>
<div class="subject">Do not passively endorse, elaboration.</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:31</div>
<div class="subject">If you can&#8217;t work through the back channels, then work in public in a non-libelous non-dramatic way</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:07</div>
<div class="subject">Draw attention to the problem</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:17</div>
<div class="subject">Be ready to be incorrect, but doubt is not an excuse for inaction</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:28</div>
<div class="subject">Ensure the community is clear that predatory behavior occurring does not accurately reflect your religious beliefs and you are speaking out against it.</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:04</div>
<div class="subject">The ABCDEF explained</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:47</div>
<div class="subject">Being cautious is a good thing</div>
<div class="timestamp">59:08</div>
<div class="subject">Possible influence of positive-only thinking here</div>
<div class="timestamp">51:07</div>
<div class="subject">Trust yourself, maybe trust your deities but don&#8217;t trust everyone out there</div>
<div class="timestamp">53:36</div>
<div class="subject">When being judgemental is a good thing</div>
<div class="timestamp">54:26</div>
<div class="subject">A Joe Recap</div>
<div class="timestamp">56:05</div>
<div class="subject">Most Pagans do not realize they participate in a community conducive to child sexual assault.</div>
<div class="timestamp">57:20</div>
<div class="subject">Pagan leaders must be effective and responsible</div>
<div class="timestamp">57:59</div>
<div class="subject">The concept of we must accept everyone, is that just groupthink special snowflake syndrome?</div>
<div class="timestamp">59:08</div>
<div class="subject">Possible influence of positive-only thinking here</div>
<div class="timestamp">57:59</div>
<div class="subject">The concept of we must accept everyone, is that just groupthink special snowflake syndrome?</div>
<div class="timestamp">59:08</div>
<div class="subject">Possible influence of positive-only thinking here</div>
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<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Dave</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
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</li>
<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 23 Credits:
<ul>
<li><a href='http://www.archive.org/'>Internet Archive</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Tonight we conclude our discussion on topic of Pagans being too polite to tell predators to go away.  This we go into how both Pagans and the law protect proven and known predators. Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Tonight we conclude our discussion on topic of Pagans being too polite to tell predators to go away.  This we go into how both Pagans and the law protect proven and known predators.


Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm not here" of Pagan Roadtrip


Guest Hosts:
Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Myst, Snooze Possum of Hedgehog Stole My Beer!


01:13Scurv recaps the situation
02:13Community passive endorsement of predatory behavior
02:58Pagans wanting to heal known confirmed sexual predators
03:28Pagan Pride Day and their endorsement of predatory behavior
02:13Community passive endorsement of predatory behavior
02:58Pagans wanting to heal known confirmed sexual predators
03:28Pagan Pride Day and their endorsement of predatory behavior
04:43Contingent of a Pagan community wanted an admitted Seuxal Predator to do childrens workshops at Pagan Pride Day
04:43Contingent of a Pagan community wanted an admitted Seuxal Predator to do childrens workshops at Pagan Pride Day
05:30Scurvy thought exercise
06:29Sexual predators who are recovering have a prescribed regimen of things to do and not do to recover.
07:46Magic bullet of love is irresponsible
07:12Predators that handle their problem responsibly
07:46Magic bullet of love is irresponsible
08:05Actually taking a risky position vs. the sheep that just want to follow the winning team
08:37The failure of Pagans to realize they are passively endorsing the rape of little children
08:59Skirting around lible/slander laws protecting known predators
09:41Reputation is important!  There's a reason the Asatru are such a PITA about this!
10:16Combination of Pagans who are Pagan for non-conformity's sake &amp; people not wanting to be wrong.
11:36Be the change you want to see
12:36If a person raises a red flag here, should we see if they've raised red flags elsewhere?
13:18Vetting
14:39When it is appropriate to vet someone?
17:45Role of a parole officer
18:05Knowing when you have not thought this through
20:53Hypocracy of Pagan sexual attitudes
18:43What are Priestess Wings?
19:08Trying to not have sexual predators in a community whose foundation includes writings including rape and incest
20:23Confused and sticky in a jail cell in Tiajuana
20:53Hypocracy of Pagan sexual attitudes
24:31Pagan Groupthink
24:55Exponging "Penn State Syndrome" from the Pagan Community
25:22Christians are out to get us - is it largely self-imposed (for most, admittedly not all)?
28:01The "We must accept everyone" philosophy
29:00The Dave Test
30:30Truth is sensational enough, media dosn't need to sensationalize on top of it
31:09The bigger the mistakes you let someone get away with, the bigger the mistakes that person will make
33:06Establish a relationship with law enforcement regardless of how much you don't want to
35:41Pagans are afraid of interacting with local law enforcement
36:37How local Pagans handled Don Reimer talking to the local Police, things to learn from it
38:26Law Enforcement relationships give the biggest impact
39:37Where has Peter Dybing been?
39:48Can Pagans work with Pagan law enforcement?
40:08Is Officers of Avalon hurting the situation or is this not really their place?
41:46Southern Poverty Law Center
42:20Pagan leaders NEED to establish PERSONAL relationships with law enforcement, don't rely on entities at this point.
42:56Police isn't just about crime
44:44Do not passively endorse, elaboration.
43:33Community building with the police
43:55Living in our communities as Pagans
46:17Be ready to be incorrect, but doubt is not an excuse for inaction
44:13Be part of your community, and that includes having a relationship with the police department.
44:32Good relations with the police is an excellent predator repellant
44:44Do not passively endorse, elaboration.
45:31If you can't work through the back channels, then work in public in a non-libelous non-dramatic way
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		<title>232: Pagans Want Predators (Part 1)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 23:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight we begin to discuss the topic of Pagans being too polite to tell predators to go away.  In fact, we highlight how Pagans actually attract predators through their organizations, organizational structure and poor community relations.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight we begin to discuss the topic of Pagans being too polite to tell predators to go away.  In fact, we highlight how Pagans actually attract predators through their organizations, organizational structure and poor community relations.<br />
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<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m not here&#8221; of <a href="/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a></div>
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<div class="GuestHost">Amanda, Barrett of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Myst, Snooze Possum of <a href="http://snoozepossum.blogspot.com/">Hedgehog Stole My Beer!</a></p>
<div class="timestamp">01:45</div>
<div class="subject">Definition of Sexual Predator</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:11</div>
<div class="subject">Branden Myers&#8217; statement of community sexual abuse</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:27</div>
<div class="subject">Pagans don&#8217;t have as many taboos, but we do have some standards</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:47</div>
<div class="subject">Need to clarify what is or is not Pagan practice</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:11</div>
<div class="subject">Branden Myers&#8217; statement of community sexual abuse</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:27</div>
<div class="subject">Pagans don&#8217;t have as many taboos, but we do have some standards</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:47</div>
<div class="subject">Need to clarify what is or is not Pagan practice</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:28</div>
<div class="subject">Gruesome murder of Wiccan woman by allegedly Wiccan male</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:57</div>
<div class="subject">Don Reimer is dead!</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:21</div>
<div class="subject">Back on topic so folks don&#8217;t go Don Reimer on us</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:11</div>
<div class="subject">People agreeing with the statement, but disagreeing that someone was making the declaration</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:35</div>
<div class="subject">Drama surrounding the statement</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:11</div>
<div class="subject">People agreeing with the statement, but disagreeing that someone was making the declaration</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:09</div>
<div class="subject">The importance of basic overviews to law enforcement etc.</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:50</div>
<div class="subject">Community sexual statement as a public overview</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:38</div>
<div class="subject">People will abuse lack of knowledge/misinformation to their advantage</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:57</div>
<div class="subject">Pagan community paints a target on itself for predators to find</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:37</div>
<div class="subject">Predators know they can abuse Pagans without much retribution</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:11</div>
<div class="subject">Solidarity, when it goes too far</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:54</div>
<div class="subject">Predators vs. brotherhood</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:33</div>
<div class="subject">Pagans are gunshy as a result of intolerance they have experienced that they do not want to express any intolerance to predatory behavior</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:42</div>
<div class="subject">Anyone using the phrase &#8220;witch war&#8221; is full of derp.</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:12</div>
<div class="subject">Adults telling parents they don&#8217;t need to tell their parents about XYZ is a warning sign</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:26</div>
<div class="subject">Counteract weirdness with transparency</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:01</div>
<div class="subject">Brainhurt goes here.</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:56</div>
<div class="subject">Coven membership paperwork having a clause that they are not affiliated with any law enforcement agency</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:38</div>
<div class="subject">Being a predator using a religion to cloak one&#8217;s actions and portray them as normal etc. vs. sincerely practicing a religion</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:34</div>
<div class="subject">Covens effectively promoting 28 year olds having sex with 5 year olds.</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:01</div>
<div class="subject">Brainhurt goes here.</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:37</div>
<div class="subject">My penis says we&#8217;re soulmates</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:07</div>
<div class="subject">Pagans leaving groups because of members preventing statutory rape.</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:50</div>
<div class="subject">This all highlights that the drama surrounding the community sex statement is not caused by Patheos, and that&#8217;s a bit sad.</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:51</div>
<div class="subject">When one&#8217;s decision making processess are impaired due to metaphysics</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:52</div>
<div class="subject">Deity and Trust, Deities have too much free time.</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:10</div>
<div class="subject">The news story that triggered our many months long research into this topic</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:34</div>
<div class="subject">Penn State child sex scandal</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:35</div>
<div class="subject">@AngryBlackLady reference</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:28</div>
<div class="subject">How people justify this crap and why the slutwalk movement is needed</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:34</div>
<div class="subject">You MUST be wrong!  I&#8217;ll make up a reason!</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:56</div>
<div class="subject">Woman who went crazy because people are naturist</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:38</div>
<div class="subject">Nudity != sexual</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:26</div>
<div class="subject">The culture has so many hangups that they have so many more problems dealing with issues in a healthy way</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:40</div>
<div class="subject">People being unable to cope with issues in a healthy way cannot handle the fruits and nuts in a healthy way</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:00</div>
<div class="subject">We don&#8217;t NEED to stick together anymore</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:38</div>
<div class="subject">I don&#8217;t mind being embarassed being seen with you in public, but I don&#8217;t want to go to jail for being seen with you in Pagan</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:58</div>
<div class="subject">Clarification on the Pagans don&#8217;t need eachother anymore comment from a few minutes ago</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:41</div>
<div class="subject">Tacking spirituality onto the coersion is evil on a whole new level</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:17</div>
<div class="subject">Time for quality control in our communities</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:54</div>
<div class="subject">The ABCDEF</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:31</div>
<div class="subject">Library promoting this predatory behavior as a means of being more accepting of Pagans.</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:17</div>
<div class="subject">Summary of the early draft of the statement.</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:59</div>
<div class="subject">If you are afraid of something, you probably shouldn&#8217;t do it</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:41</div>
<div class="subject">Tacking spirituality onto the coersion is evil on a whole new level</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:28</div>
<div class="subject">Being non-judgemental to the point of being mental</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:00</div>
<div class="subject">Predator putting his contact information on stickets on the inside of books in the young adult section of the library</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:31</div>
<div class="subject">Library promoting this predatory behavior as a means of being more accepting of Pagans.</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:05</div>
<div class="subject">The importance of several real community leaders coming together for a cause, which historically has not happened</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:33</div>
<div class="subject">Laws protecting predatory behavior</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:21</div>
<div class="subject">In-community communication, and don&#8217;t be afraid to be intolerant</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
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<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
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</li>
<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 23 Credits:
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<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
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</li>
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		<itunes:summary>Tonight we begin to discuss the topic of Pagans being too polite to tell predators to go away.  In fact, we highlight how Pagans actually attract predators through their organizations, organizational structure and poor community relations.


Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm not here" of Pagan Roadtrip


Guest Hosts:
Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Myst, Snooze Possum of Hedgehog Stole My Beer!

01:45Definition of Sexual Predator
03:11Branden Myers' statement of community sexual abuse
03:27Pagans don't have as many taboos, but we do have some standards
03:47Need to clarify what is or is not Pagan practice
03:11Branden Myers' statement of community sexual abuse
03:27Pagans don't have as many taboos, but we do have some standards
03:47Need to clarify what is or is not Pagan practice
04:28Gruesome murder of Wiccan woman by allegedly Wiccan male
04:57Don Reimer is dead!
05:21Back on topic so folks don't go Don Reimer on us
08:11People agreeing with the statement, but disagreeing that someone was making the declaration
06:35Drama surrounding the statement
08:11People agreeing with the statement, but disagreeing that someone was making the declaration
09:09The importance of basic overviews to law enforcement etc.
09:50Community sexual statement as a public overview
10:38People will abuse lack of knowledge/misinformation to their advantage
10:57Pagan community paints a target on itself for predators to find
11:37Predators know they can abuse Pagans without much retribution
12:11Solidarity, when it goes too far
12:54Predators vs. brotherhood
13:33Pagans are gunshy as a result of intolerance they have experienced that they do not want to express any intolerance to predatory behavior
14:42Anyone using the phrase "witch war" is full of derp.
15:12Adults telling parents they don't need to tell their parents about XYZ is a warning sign
16:26Counteract weirdness with transparency
19:01Brainhurt goes here.
16:56Coven membership paperwork having a clause that they are not affiliated with any law enforcement agency
17:38Being a predator using a religion to cloak one's actions and portray them as normal etc. vs. sincerely practicing a religion
18:34Covens effectively promoting 28 year olds having sex with 5 year olds.
19:01Brainhurt goes here.
19:37My penis says we're soulmates
20:07Pagans leaving groups because of members preventing statutory rape.
22:50This all highlights that the drama surrounding the community sex statement is not caused by Patheos, and that's a bit sad.
23:51When one's decision making processess are impaired due to metaphysics
27:52Deity and Trust, Deities have too much free time.
28:10The news story that triggered our many months long research into this topic
29:34Penn State child sex scandal
30:35@AngryBlackLady reference
31:28How people justify this crap and why the slutwalk movement is needed
32:34You MUST be wrong!  I'll make up a reason!
32:56Woman who went crazy because people are naturist
33:38Nudity != sexual
34:26The culture has so many hangups that they have so many more problems dealing with issues in a healthy way
34:40People being unable to cope with issues in a healthy way cannot handle the fruits and nuts in a healthy way
35:00We don't NEED to stick together anymore
35:38I don't mind being embarassed being seen with you in public, but I don't want to go to jail for being seen with you in Pagan
35:58Clarification on the Pagans don't need eachother anymore comment from a few minutes ago
39:41Tacking spirituality onto the coersion is evil on a whole new level
36:17Time for quality control in our communities
36:54The ABCDEF
45:31Library promoting this predatory behavior as a means of being more accepting of Pagans.
37:17Summary of the early draft of the statement.
38:59If you are afraid of something, you probably shouldn't do it
39:41Tacking spirituality onto the coersion is evil on a whole new level
</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:duration>50:42</itunes:duration>
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		<title>231: Tarot 101</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight we&#8217;re going through the 101 of giving Tarot readings from what is a Tarot reading from picking a deck to what types of spreads are out there (and what is a spread), etiquette and more to know before you give your first reading.


Regular Hosts:
Amber of Red Tail Arts, Dave of Pagan News  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight we&#8217;re going through the 101 of giving Tarot readings from what is a Tarot reading from picking a deck to what types of spreads are out there (and what is a spread), etiquette and more to know before you give your first reading.<br />
<br />
<span id="more-5643"></span></p>
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<div class="RegularHost">Amber of <a href="http://redtailarts.blogspot.com/">Red Tail Arts</a>, Dave of <a href="http://PaganNewsFirehose.com">Pagan News Firehose</a>, Joe &#8220;the Moody Pagan&#8221; of <a href="/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a></div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Dustin, NRia of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a> </p>
<div class="timestamp">01:25</div>
<div class="subject">Why do people do Tarot?</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:13</div>
<div class="subject">Define: Tarot Reading</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:30</div>
<div class="subject">Define: Spread</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:44</div>
<div class="subject">Define: Reader</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:13</div>
<div class="subject">Define: Tarot Reading</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:30</div>
<div class="subject">Define: Spread</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:44</div>
<div class="subject">Define: Reader</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:11</div>
<div class="subject">Define: Querant</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:11</div>
<div class="subject">Define: Querant</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:29</div>
<div class="subject">Tarot uses cards</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:52</div>
<div class="subject">French Tarot vs. Oracle Cards</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:54</div>
<div class="subject">Minor Arcana</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:28</div>
<div class="subject">North American vs. European use of Tarot Cards</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:54</div>
<div class="subject">Minor Arcana</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:29</div>
<div class="subject">Terminology of the cards can vary among decks</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:55</div>
<div class="subject">Tarot suits, often associated with the 4 elements</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:46</div>
<div class="subject">General meanings of the different suits/elements</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:17</div>
<div class="subject">Why it&#8217;s bad for someone to interpret someone else&#8217;s deck they&#8217;re not familiar with</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:53</div>
<div class="subject">Symbolism varies significantly among decks, there&#8217;s a deck for everyone</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:40</div>
<div class="subject">How to find the deck for me?  Aeclectic Tarot &#8211; aeclectic.net</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:01</div>
<div class="subject">Minor arcana often address the everyday items</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:23</div>
<div class="subject">Generic meanings of the minor arcana cards</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:12</div>
<div class="subject">What does Arcana mean?</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:22</div>
<div class="subject">The role of the Major Arcana</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:00</div>
<div class="subject">Significance of the roman numerals on Major Arcana cards?</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:07</div>
<div class="subject">When should someone get a deck?</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:40</div>
<div class="subject">Major Arcana are important</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:08</div>
<div class="subject">Pastoral Counseling</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:21</div>
<div class="subject">The use of Tarot in pastoral counseling</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:07</div>
<div class="subject">When should someone get a deck?</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:10</div>
<div class="subject">Emotional maturity in Tarot</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:25</div>
<div class="subject">Superstitions surrounding buying a tarot deck</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:25</div>
<div class="subject">Is there such a thing as a beginner deck?  No!</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:15</div>
<div class="subject">Some things can do more complex and complicated things, but that does not differentiate beginner vs. experienced</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:23</div>
<div class="subject">Tarot is entirely in-depth, there is no paint-by-numbers version of Tarot</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:03</div>
<div class="subject">Different decks want to be used in different ways</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:03</div>
<div class="subject">Close friends/family can often be very helpful in selecting your first deck for you.</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:35</div>
<div class="subject">Use an existing deck first before making your own deck</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:59</div>
<div class="subject">Tarot as a tool for professionals, a contraversial stance</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:53</div>
<div class="subject">Remember, Tarot artwork is symbolic, not just pretty</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:36</div>
<div class="subject">How a tarot reader should walk into a tarot reading done by someone else.</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:41</div>
<div class="subject">Dave&#8217;s readings not making sense to him until the end</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:11</div>
<div class="subject">Shuffling Tarot cards, the debates</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:39</div>
<div class="subject">Cutting of the cards and who should or should not handle the cards</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:53</div>
<div class="subject">Spreads</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:54</div>
<div class="subject">How to get started</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:44</div>
<div class="subject">Becoming familiar with cards</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:34</div>
<div class="subject">Can Tarot readings be done over the internet?</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:29</div>
<div class="subject">Tarot will drain you at first</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:40</div>
<div class="subject">Refining your practice</div>
<div class="timestamp">52:50</div>
<div class="subject">Debate surrounding charging for readings</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:12</div>
<div class="subject">How do we make our readings more accurate?</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:03</div>
<div class="subject">Looking at the future directly then using divining tools as a filter</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:34</div>
<div class="subject">Can Tarot readings be done over the internet?</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:13</div>
<div class="subject">Etiquette, for giving readings</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:52</div>
<div class="subject">Communicate to the querant!</div>
<div class="timestamp">52:50</div>
<div class="subject">Debate surrounding charging for readings</div>
<div class="timestamp">54:12</div>
<div class="subject">In the world of metaphysics, you don&#8217;t always get what you pay for</div>
<div class="timestamp">55:21</div>
<div class="subject">Donation and Tarot</div>
<div class="timestamp">56:00</div>
<div class="subject">Money being insulting</div>
<div class="timestamp">56:24</div>
<div class="subject">Charging as a means of maintaining the respectful nature of readings</div>
<div class="timestamp">57:31</div>
<div class="subject">Denying refunds</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Dave</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
<ul></ul>
</li>
<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 23 Credits:
<ul>
<li><a href='http://www.archive.org/'>Internet Archive</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<itunes:summary>Tonight we're going through the 101 of giving Tarot readings from what is a Tarot reading from picking a deck to what types of spreads are out there (and what is a spread), etiquette and more to know before you give your first reading.


Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Dave of Pagan News Firehose, Joe "the Moody Pagan" of Pagan Roadtrip


Guest Hosts:
Dustin, NRia of Pagan Men 

01:25Why do people do Tarot?
03:13Define: Tarot Reading
03:30Define: Spread
03:44Define: Reader
03:13Define: Tarot Reading
03:30Define: Spread
03:44Define: Reader
04:11Define: Querant
04:11Define: Querant
04:29Tarot uses cards
04:52French Tarot vs. Oracle Cards
05:54Minor Arcana
05:28North American vs. European use of Tarot Cards
05:54Minor Arcana
06:29Terminology of the cards can vary among decks
06:55Tarot suits, often associated with the 4 elements
07:46General meanings of the different suits/elements
08:17Why it's bad for someone to interpret someone else's deck they're not familiar with
08:53Symbolism varies significantly among decks, there's a deck for everyone
09:40How to find the deck for me?  Aeclectic Tarot - aeclectic.net
11:01Minor arcana often address the everyday items
11:23Generic meanings of the minor arcana cards
14:12What does Arcana mean?
14:22The role of the Major Arcana
16:00Significance of the roman numerals on Major Arcana cards?
20:07When should someone get a deck?
17:40Major Arcana are important
18:08Pastoral Counseling
19:21The use of Tarot in pastoral counseling
20:07When should someone get a deck?
21:10Emotional maturity in Tarot
22:25Superstitions surrounding buying a tarot deck
23:25Is there such a thing as a beginner deck?  No!
26:15Some things can do more complex and complicated things, but that does not differentiate beginner vs. experienced
27:23Tarot is entirely in-depth, there is no paint-by-numbers version of Tarot
28:03Different decks want to be used in different ways
29:03Close friends/family can often be very helpful in selecting your first deck for you.
29:35Use an existing deck first before making your own deck
29:59Tarot as a tool for professionals, a contraversial stance
30:53Remember, Tarot artwork is symbolic, not just pretty
31:36How a tarot reader should walk into a tarot reading done by someone else.
32:41Dave's readings not making sense to him until the end
34:11Shuffling Tarot cards, the debates
36:39Cutting of the cards and who should or should not handle the cards
39:53Spreads
40:54How to get started
41:44Becoming familiar with cards
47:34Can Tarot readings be done over the internet?
43:29Tarot will drain you at first
45:40Refining your practice
52:50Debate surrounding charging for readings
46:12How do we make our readings more accurate?
47:03Looking at the future directly then using divining tools as a filter
47:34Can Tarot readings be done over the internet?
49:13Etiquette, for giving readings
50:52Communicate to the querant!
52:50Debate surrounding charging for readings
54:12In the world of metaphysics, you don't always get what you pay for
55:21Donation and Tarot
56:00Money being insulting
56:24Charging as a means of maintaining the respectful nature of readings
57:31Denying refunds

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		<title>230: Frockfollies!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 01:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight we talk to Gill, an amazing artist in the UK that makes many Pagan-friendly items including handfasting dresses!


Regular Hosts:
Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m Here&#8221; of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam
Guest Hosts:
Gill of Frockfollies, Amanda,  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight we talk to Gill, an amazing artist in the UK that makes many Pagan-friendly items including handfasting dresses!<br />
<br />
<span id="more-5631"></span></p>
<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Branden of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a>, Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m Here&#8221; of <a href="/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a>, Sam</div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Gill of Frockfollies, Amanda, Barrett of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Miles who wrote <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1933514108/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=pagacentpodc-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=1933514108">The Green Prince&#8217;s Father</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=pagacentpodc-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=1933514108" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />, NRia of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a> </p>
<div class="timestamp">01:00</div>
<div class="subject">Wheres Amber</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:42</div>
<div class="subject">Who is Gill</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:28</div>
<div class="subject">Its a nice day for a white wedding</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:52</div>
<div class="subject">Lets start at the very beginning</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:42</div>
<div class="subject">Who is Gill</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:28</div>
<div class="subject">Its a nice day for a white wedding</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:52</div>
<div class="subject">Lets start at the very beginning</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:24</div>
<div class="subject">Working in period garb</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:24</div>
<div class="subject">Working in period garb</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:25</div>
<div class="subject">Shameless Plug</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:46</div>
<div class="subject">Starting out and Inspirations</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:52</div>
<div class="subject">Styles of Sewing</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:45</div>
<div class="subject">Fashion Engineering</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:52</div>
<div class="subject">Styles of Sewing</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:19</div>
<div class="subject">Custom Sizing</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:47</div>
<div class="subject">For the gentlemen</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:02</div>
<div class="subject">Couture</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:09</div>
<div class="subject">Bridezilla</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:53</div>
<div class="subject">The Pagan Community</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:56</div>
<div class="subject">Talismans</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:11</div>
<div class="subject">How to order a dress</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:54</div>
<div class="subject">Using Period Cloth</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:54</div>
<div class="subject">Fittings</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:49</div>
<div class="subject">what is your favorite time period</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:21</div>
<div class="subject">Preservation</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:44</div>
<div class="subject">most difficult part</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:49</div>
<div class="subject">what kind of fabrics are used</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:35</div>
<div class="subject">Steampunk</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:26</div>
<div class="subject">Innovations</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:44</div>
<div class="subject">most difficult part</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:33</div>
<div class="subject">Favorite Part</div>
<div class="timestamp">51:20</div>
<div class="subject">Movement</div>
<div class="timestamp">54:27</div>
<div class="subject">Just for fun</div>
<div class="timestamp">56:50</div>
<div class="subject">Going overseas</div>
<div class="timestamp">58:19</div>
<div class="subject">Renting out dresses</div>
<div class="timestamp">58:58</div>
<div class="subject">Goodbye</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Dave</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
<ul></ul>
</li>
<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 23 Credits:
<ul>
<li><a href='http://www.archive.org/'>Internet Archive</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<itunes:summary>Tonight we talk to Gill, an amazing artist in the UK that makes many Pagan-friendly items including handfasting dresses!


Regular Hosts:Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm Here" of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam


Guest Hosts:
Gill of Frockfollies, Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Miles who wrote The Green Prince's Father, NRia of Pagan Men 

01:00Wheres Amber
01:42Who is Gill
02:28Its a nice day for a white wedding
02:52Lets start at the very beginning
01:42Who is Gill
02:28Its a nice day for a white wedding
02:52Lets start at the very beginning
04:24Working in period garb
04:24Working in period garb
07:25Shameless Plug
07:46Starting out and Inspirations
11:52Styles of Sewing
09:45Fashion Engineering
11:52Styles of Sewing
14:19Custom Sizing
16:47For the gentlemen
19:02Couture
21:09Bridezilla
23:53The Pagan Community
27:56Talismans
30:11How to order a dress
33:54Using Period Cloth
36:54Fittings
37:49what is your favorite time period
40:21Preservation
45:44most difficult part
40:49what kind of fabrics are used
42:35Steampunk
44:26Innovations
45:44most difficult part
46:33Favorite Part
51:20Movement
54:27Just for fun
56:50Going overseas
58:19Renting out dresses
58:58Goodbye

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		<title>229: Dangers of Positive-Only Teaching</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight we&#8217;re talking about the dangers of teaching methods that only emphasize the positive and fail to cover uncomfortable or negative aspects of a particular topic.


Regular Hosts:
Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe &#8220;I am  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight we&#8217;re talking about the dangers of teaching methods that only emphasize the positive and fail to cover uncomfortable or negative aspects of a particular topic.<br />
<br />
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<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Amber of <a href="http://redtailarts.blogspot.com/">Red Tail Arts</a>, Branden of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a>, Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, Joe &#8220;I am a Pagan&#8221; of <a href="/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a>, Sam</div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Amanda, Barrett of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Snooze Possum of <a href="http://snoozepossum.blogspot.com/">Hedgehog Stole My Beer!</a>, NRia of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a> </p>
<div class="timestamp">02:33</div>
<div class="subject">How this got started on the PCP radar</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:58</div>
<div class="subject">Joe is a Moody Pagan</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:05</div>
<div class="subject">What is Positive-Only Teaching?</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:52</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-Only Reiki Teaching</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:58</div>
<div class="subject">Joe is a Moody Pagan</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:05</div>
<div class="subject">What is Positive-Only Teaching?</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:52</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-Only Reiki Teaching</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:15</div>
<div class="subject">All Energy is Good</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:15</div>
<div class="subject">All Energy is Good</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:54</div>
<div class="subject">Burn your plastic Jesus, the Christian equivalent of PCP!</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:49</div>
<div class="subject">Kids claiming to be Reverands</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:41</div>
<div class="subject">All lint, no sweater</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:04</div>
<div class="subject">Wikipedia vs. Encyclopedia Dramatica</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:41</div>
<div class="subject">All lint, no sweater</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:57</div>
<div class="subject">The Positivity Police!</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:16</div>
<div class="subject">Pimp yo&#8217; head dreads = no no, dread is a bad word</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:11</div>
<div class="subject">Hello vs. Heaven-O in Michigan</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:53</div>
<div class="subject">Hellenic vs. Heavenenic</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:37</div>
<div class="subject">Are the positivity police very well off or just psychotic?</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:38</div>
<div class="subject">Positivity police have the belief that they don&#8217;t need to care about anything because the university always automatically provides for them</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:06</div>
<div class="subject">Dangers of Positive-Only teaching: Occupy Wall Street </div>
<div class="timestamp">11:31</div>
<div class="subject">Name it and claim it theology</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:15</div>
<div class="subject">Some of the positive-only types have something from their past to hide like raping babies</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:54</div>
<div class="subject">Some people want a reason for why the universe is unfair</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:26</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-only folks get 2 parts of psychology very wrong</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:47</div>
<div class="subject">Case study of someone who embraced The Secret and the problems it caused.</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:47</div>
<div class="subject">Learning from mistakes, or not.</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:06</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-only thinking is an extreme application of the law of attraction</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:20</div>
<div class="subject">Balance vs. one-sidedness</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:47</div>
<div class="subject">Case study of someone who embraced The Secret and the problems it caused.</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:33</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-only thinkers are often in denial.</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:06</div>
<div class="subject">People look for perfection</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:18</div>
<div class="subject">The absence of negativity is not positive</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:43</div>
<div class="subject">Making peace with what others believe vs. constantly going &#8220;we&#8217;re not evil&#8221; to convince themselves and everyone around them.</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:16</div>
<div class="subject">Anger, managed properly, tells you when something is not cool.</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:39</div>
<div class="subject">An absence of negativity allows for people to do dumb things in front of you.</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:34</div>
<div class="subject">Many believe that if you teach only positive things and never teach fear or negativity then people wont get hurt because fear causes people to be hurt.</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:05</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-only thinking seeds bad coping skills</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:18</div>
<div class="subject">It was meant to be</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:43</div>
<div class="subject">Karma as an excuse</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:25</div>
<div class="subject">Optimism doesn&#8217;t allow for preparation for negative outcomes</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:38</div>
<div class="subject">Pessimism denies us the joys we could get from little things.</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:57</div>
<div class="subject">It&#8217;s all about your mindset.</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:21</div>
<div class="subject">Chilrens books are positive-only so they can focus on helping the child read with simple concepts without going into depth about the topics about which they are reading.</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:18</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-only thinking/teaching results in a childish view of the world, without understanding the depth of the topics one encounters.</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:09</div>
<div class="subject">Bright Sided, How Positive Thinking is Undermining America</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:22</div>
<div class="subject">Mandatory positive thinking</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:42</div>
<div class="subject">Canadians aren&#8217;t even THAT positive</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:31</div>
<div class="subject">Planning (e.g. taking an umbrella) will cause failure in the mindset of positive-only thinkers.</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:53</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-only thinkers are the reason for Hitler&#8217;s successes j/k</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:14</div>
<div class="subject">I disagree with them, thus they are not Pagan = result of Positive-Only Thinking</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:18</div>
<div class="subject">Use of umbrellas shows a lack of faith in oneself and one&#8217;s gods thus showing an immaturity in your practice</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:59</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-only thinkers want to eliminate hardships by way of eliminating negativity from teaching (believing negativity can be bred out) thus creating a utopia without hardships or coping</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:42</div>
<div class="subject">Canadians aren&#8217;t even THAT positive</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:19</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-only thinkers have no realistic perception of the world around them and thus cannot be successful.</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:06</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-only people can get hung up on their identity as a Pagan so much, they&#8217;re the cause for the need for things like Project Pagan Enough</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:14</div>
<div class="subject">I disagree with them, thus they are not Pagan = result of Positive-Only Thinking</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:30</div>
<div class="subject">Amber&#8217;s not a Pagan because she told someone to watch their intake of St. John&#8217;s Wart</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:18</div>
<div class="subject">Natural Derp</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:58</div>
<div class="subject">Mushroom roulette</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:28</div>
<div class="subject">SPCA syndrome co-dependency</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:26</div>
<div class="subject">Is Positive-Only teaching synonymous with Cranial-Rectal Insertion?</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:07</div>
<div class="subject">Being too accepting of others</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:27</div>
<div class="subject">Being a functioning member of society?</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:50</div>
<div class="subject">Dave hypothesizes that denial is a defense mechanism deployed by positive-only thinkers to avoid failure.</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:20</div>
<div class="subject">Joe&#8217;s seen this heuristic before.</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:33</div>
<div class="subject">Discomfort means &#8220;someone must always be wrong&#8221; when they disagree with you.</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:28</div>
<div class="subject">SPCA syndrome co-dependency</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:17</div>
<div class="subject">Are positive-only people not very skilled?</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:33</div>
<div class="subject">Discomfort means &#8220;someone must always be wrong&#8221; when they disagree with you.</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:28</div>
<div class="subject">SPCA syndrome co-dependency</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:58</div>
<div class="subject">Some people don&#8217;t appreciate forced self-improvement</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:17</div>
<div class="subject">Are positive-only people not very skilled?</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:13</div>
<div class="subject">That&#8217;s just my style.  Nope, your style is shit.  But, you have to understand&#8230;</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:58</div>
<div class="subject">It&#8217;s okay to do something because you want to, and not be perfect at it</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:21</div>
<div class="subject">You don&#8217;t need to do everything perfectly.</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:07</div>
<div class="subject">You can do damage!</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:17</div>
<div class="subject">Do not use lead solder in jewelry</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:06</div>
<div class="subject">If you don&#8217;t believe in it, it can&#8217;t hurt you?  Silly positive-only thinking?</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:55</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy is only buying US, Canadian and European clothing &#8211; email scurvy@PaganCenteredPodcast.com if you have something to sell him for he will buy.</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:06</div>
<div class="subject">Joe is a Left Hand Path Wiccan?</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:50</div>
<div class="subject">Left Hand Path Wicca = Church of Dave</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:21</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-only people in management?</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:50</div>
<div class="subject">How do we combat positive-only teaching?</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:50</div>
<div class="subject">Left Hand Path Wicca = Church of Dave</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:21</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-only people in management?</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:50</div>
<div class="subject">How do we combat positive-only teaching?</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:54</div>
<div class="subject">What is teaching?</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:29</div>
<div class="subject">How can mama cat be a positive-only teaching?</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:34</div>
<div class="subject">Positivity implies altruism, but one must be aware negative exists</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:29</div>
<div class="subject">Much of the painful stuff we go through makes us who we are</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:53</div>
<div class="subject">Martial arts is not all happiness, you will get sore and get injured but it helps you learn better</div>
<div class="timestamp">52:12</div>
<div class="subject">Emotional abuse is also bad</div>
<div class="timestamp">53:10</div>
<div class="subject">Pointing and laughing breeds animosity in many relationships</div>
<div class="timestamp">53:29</div>
<div class="subject">Electrical safety</div>
<div class="timestamp">53:29</div>
<div class="subject">Electrical safety</div>
<div class="timestamp">54:03</div>
<div class="subject">Combating positive-only teaching: talk to the teachers.</div>
<div class="timestamp">54:29</div>
<div class="subject">Reality show for these positive-only places might snap some sense into these folks?</div>
<div class="timestamp">55:29</div>
<div class="subject">Have positive-only people been traumatized by real life and thus deluded themselves into believing everything outside their love and light university should just be brushed off.</div>
<div class="timestamp">55:29</div>
<div class="subject">Have positive-only people been traumatized by real life and thus deluded themselves into believing everything outside their love and light university should just be brushed off.</div>
<div class="timestamp">56:17</div>
<div class="subject">Positive-only people tend to intentionally isolate themselves into like-minded communities.</div>
<div class="timestamp">57:18</div>
<div class="subject">Natural selection?</div>
<div class="timestamp">57:23</div>
<div class="subject">Can positive-only people handle reality?</div>
<div class="timestamp">57:42</div>
<div class="subject">Are these people important to you?  Are they capable of change?  This is a huge investment to fix a person.</div>
<div class="timestamp">58:06</div>
<div class="subject">You may be better off letting these people be what they are</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
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<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Tonight we're talking about the dangers of teaching methods that only emphasize the positive and fail to cover uncomfortable or negative aspects of a particular topic. Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Tonight we're talking about the dangers of teaching methods that only emphasize the positive and fail to cover uncomfortable or negative aspects of a particular topic.


Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I am a Pagan" of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam


Guest Hosts:
Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Snooze Possum of Hedgehog Stole My Beer!, NRia of Pagan Men 

02:33How this got started on the PCP radar
02:58Joe is a Moody Pagan
03:05What is Positive-Only Teaching?
03:52Positive-Only Reiki Teaching
02:58Joe is a Moody Pagan
03:05What is Positive-Only Teaching?
03:52Positive-Only Reiki Teaching
04:15All Energy is Good
04:15All Energy is Good
04:54Burn your plastic Jesus, the Christian equivalent of PCP!
05:49Kids claiming to be Reverands
06:41All lint, no sweater
06:04Wikipedia vs. Encyclopedia Dramatica
06:41All lint, no sweater
06:57The Positivity Police!
07:16Pimp yo' head dreads = no no, dread is a bad word
08:11Hello vs. Heaven-O in Michigan
08:53Hellenic vs. Heavenenic
09:37Are the positivity police very well off or just psychotic?
10:38Positivity police have the belief that they don't need to care about anything because the university always automatically provides for them
11:06Dangers of Positive-Only teaching: Occupy Wall Street 
11:31Name it and claim it theology
12:15Some of the positive-only types have something from their past to hide like raping babies
12:54Some people want a reason for why the universe is unfair
13:26Positive-only folks get 2 parts of psychology very wrong
14:47Case study of someone who embraced The Secret and the problems it caused.
13:47Learning from mistakes, or not.
14:06Positive-only thinking is an extreme application of the law of attraction
14:20Balance vs. one-sidedness
14:47Case study of someone who embraced The Secret and the problems it caused.
15:33Positive-only thinkers are often in denial.
16:06People look for perfection
16:18The absence of negativity is not positive
16:43Making peace with what others believe vs. constantly going "we're not evil" to convince themselves and everyone around them.
17:16Anger, managed properly, tells you when something is not cool.
17:39An absence of negativity allows for people to do dumb things in front of you.
18:34Many believe that if you teach only positive things and never teach fear or negativity then people wont get hurt because fear causes people to be hurt.
19:05Positive-only thinking seeds bad coping skills
19:18It was meant to be
19:43Karma as an excuse
20:25Optimism doesn't allow for preparation for negative outcomes
20:38Pessimism denies us the joys we could get from little things.
20:57It's all about your mindset.
21:21Chilrens books are positive-only so they can focus on helping the child read with simple concepts without going into depth about the topics about which they are reading.
22:18Positive-only thinking/teaching results in a childish view of the world, without understanding the depth of the topics one encounters.
23:09Bright Sided, How Positive Thinking is Undermining America
23:22Mandatory positive thinking
26:42Canadians aren't even THAT positive
23:31Planning (e.g. taking an umbrella) will cause failure in the mindset of positive-only thinkers.
23:53Positive-only thinkers are the reason for Hitler's successes j/k
28:14I disagree with them, thus they are not Pagan = result of Positive-Only Thinking
24:18Use of umbrellas shows a lack of faith in oneself and one's gods thus showing an immaturity in your practice
25:59Positive-only thinkers want to eliminate hardships by way of eliminating negativity from teaching (believing negativity can be bred out) thus creating a utopia without hardships or coping
26:42Canadians aren't even THAT positive
27:19Positive-only thinkers have no realistic perception of the world around them and thus cannot be successful.
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		<title>228: PanGia Store</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight we&#8217;re talking about PanGaia store, how it&#8217;s not like most general-purpose Pagan shops you know and why they&#8217;re just so full of WIN.


Regular Hosts:
Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m Here&#8221; of Pagan  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight we&#8217;re talking about <a href="http://PanGaiaStore.com">PanGaia store</a>, how it&#8217;s not like most general-purpose Pagan shops you know and why they&#8217;re just so full of WIN.<br />
<br />
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<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Amber of <a href="http://redtailarts.blogspot.com/">Red Tail Arts</a>, Branden of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a>, Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, Joe &#8220;I&#8217;m Here&#8221; of <a href="/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a></div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Barrett of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Snooze Possum of <a href="http://snoozepossum.blogspot.com/">Hedgehog Stole My Beer!</a>, NRia of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a> and Sarah of <a href="http://PanGaiaStore.com">PanGia Metaphysical Store</a></p>
<div class="timestamp">01:13</div>
<div class="subject">Who are the folks behind PanGaia Store?</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:47</div>
<div class="subject">Spare time?</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:10</div>
<div class="subject">Inspiration</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:45</div>
<div class="subject">Yay, not FrontPage by Microsoft!</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:47</div>
<div class="subject">Spare time?</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:10</div>
<div class="subject">Inspiration</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:45</div>
<div class="subject">Yay, not FrontPage by Microsoft!</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:18</div>
<div class="subject">Building a website by doing the right searches.</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:18</div>
<div class="subject">Building a website by doing the right searches.</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:36</div>
<div class="subject">Determining products to carry</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:52</div>
<div class="subject">Startup costs for a physical store</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:43</div>
<div class="subject">The godfather of Nebraska Pagans</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:00</div>
<div class="subject">Benefits of starting with a web store</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:43</div>
<div class="subject">The godfather of Nebraska Pagans</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:04</div>
<div class="subject">Family involvement</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:53</div>
<div class="subject">Artisans interested in selling wares in your shop, how should they contact you?</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:31</div>
<div class="subject">info@pangaiastore.com</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:53</div>
<div class="subject">SOPA and PIPA blackout</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:33</div>
<div class="subject">Hunting season and how it can impat Pagan stores</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:32</div>
<div class="subject">Runic creations by Phil</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:14</div>
<div class="subject">Not in it just for the money.</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:52</div>
<div class="subject">Reasonable pricing</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:13</div>
<div class="subject">Classes</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:55</div>
<div class="subject">Underwater Basketweaving Classes?</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:09</div>
<div class="subject">Tarot and Oracle Readings and Past Life Regressions</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:28</div>
<div class="subject">Interesting things to learn </div>
<div class="timestamp">19:40</div>
<div class="subject">What does Sarah enjoy most about what she does?</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:54</div>
<div class="subject">The introduction of tarot decks into their stock</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:14</div>
<div class="subject">Getting the perspective of what&#8217;s interesting to Pagans</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:28</div>
<div class="subject">Interesting things to learn </div>
<div class="timestamp">21:37</div>
<div class="subject">The potential for a Pagan store to be generic.</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:10</div>
<div class="subject">Generic stores are a result of a greed for money?</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:25</div>
<div class="subject">Stores about joy of Pagan community vs. money.</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:42</div>
<div class="subject">Sarah tries to not be insulting.</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:53</div>
<div class="subject">Newbies doing the same thing every other newbie has done because they are exposed to the same stuff.</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:10</div>
<div class="subject">You have to be involved with the Pagan community to break out of this generic mold, and have a store with individual touches.</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:47</div>
<div class="subject">PanGaia Store looks for product that takes them out of the generic mold.</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:17</div>
<div class="subject">Story of a person retiring out of running a Pagan Store.</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:36</div>
<div class="subject">Pagan stores not wanting to carry vodoo items.</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:27</div>
<div class="subject">PanGaia Store &#8211; for the things you usually have to wait for an annual festival for.</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:11</div>
<div class="subject">Quality of product, not just price.</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:08</div>
<div class="subject">Get-r-done gal vs. social stud</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:18</div>
<div class="subject">Pagan musicians live a Pagan lifestyle</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:40</div>
<div class="subject">Dave meets all the BNPs when he dies.</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:25</div>
<div class="subject">How does it all work when PanGaia Store Vends</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:41</div>
<div class="subject">Ceramic screenprinting</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:11</div>
<div class="subject">yeah it called you&#8230; with A BILL!</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:39</div>
<div class="subject">Cleansing the vending area and other metaphysical stuffs</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:44</div>
<div class="subject">Artists are harder to impress sometimes.</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:04</div>
<div class="subject">Attention to detail.</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:35</div>
<div class="subject">When will the transition to physical store happen?</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:14</div>
<div class="subject">Having a range of products</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:28</div>
<div class="subject">Sarah the Introvert</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:39</div>
<div class="subject">Cleansing the vending area and other metaphysical stuffs</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:20</div>
<div class="subject">PanGaia Store keep getting invited to Anime Cons and such.</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:36</div>
<div class="subject">Beef Jerkey is what you should give Sarah if you see her vending.</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:35</div>
<div class="subject">When will the transition to physical store happen?</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:17</div>
<div class="subject">PCP continues to brainstorm ideas on making PanGaia Store a physical store</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:46</div>
<div class="subject">All the stuff the PanGaia Store folks do.</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:54</div>
<div class="subject">Aversion to spare time</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:15</div>
<div class="subject">PanGaiaStore.com</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:24</div>
<div class="subject">blogtalkradio.com/pagan-musings</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Dave</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
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<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 23 Credits:
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<li><a href='http://www.archive.org/'>Internet Archive</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Tonight we're talking about PanGaia store, how it's not like most general-purpose Pagan shops you know and why they're just so full of WIN. Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendenc...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Tonight we're talking about PanGaia store, how it's not like most general-purpose Pagan shops you know and why they're just so full of WIN.


Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm Here" of Pagan Roadtrip


Guest Hosts:
Barrett of Pagan Men, Snooze Possum of Hedgehog Stole My Beer!, NRia of Pagan Men and Sarah of PanGia Metaphysical Store

01:13Who are the folks behind PanGaia Store?
03:47Spare time?
04:10Inspiration
05:45Yay, not FrontPage by Microsoft!
03:47Spare time?
04:10Inspiration
05:45Yay, not FrontPage by Microsoft!
06:18Building a website by doing the right searches.
06:18Building a website by doing the right searches.
06:36Determining products to carry
06:52Startup costs for a physical store
08:43The godfather of Nebraska Pagans
08:00Benefits of starting with a web store
08:43The godfather of Nebraska Pagans
09:04Family involvement
09:53Artisans interested in selling wares in your shop, how should they contact you?
10:31info@pangaiastore.com
10:53SOPA and PIPA blackout
13:33Hunting season and how it can impat Pagan stores
14:32Runic creations by Phil
15:14Not in it just for the money.
15:52Reasonable pricing
17:13Classes
17:55Underwater Basketweaving Classes?
18:09Tarot and Oracle Readings and Past Life Regressions
21:28Interesting things to learn 
19:40What does Sarah enjoy most about what she does?
19:54The introduction of tarot decks into their stock
21:14Getting the perspective of what's interesting to Pagans
21:28Interesting things to learn 
21:37The potential for a Pagan store to be generic.
22:10Generic stores are a result of a greed for money?
22:25Stores about joy of Pagan community vs. money.
22:42Sarah tries to not be insulting.
22:53Newbies doing the same thing every other newbie has done because they are exposed to the same stuff.
23:10You have to be involved with the Pagan community to break out of this generic mold, and have a store with individual touches.
24:47PanGaia Store looks for product that takes them out of the generic mold.
25:17Story of a person retiring out of running a Pagan Store.
25:36Pagan stores not wanting to carry vodoo items.
26:27PanGaia Store - for the things you usually have to wait for an annual festival for.
27:11Quality of product, not just price.
29:08Get-r-done gal vs. social stud
30:18Pagan musicians live a Pagan lifestyle
30:40Dave meets all the BNPs when he dies.
31:25How does it all work when PanGaia Store Vends
33:41Ceramic screenprinting
34:11yeah it called you... with A BILL!
38:39Cleansing the vending area and other metaphysical stuffs
34:44Artists are harder to impress sometimes.
35:04Attention to detail.
40:35When will the transition to physical store happen?
36:14Having a range of products
37:28Sarah the Introvert
38:39Cleansing the vending area and other metaphysical stuffs
39:20PanGaia Store keep getting invited to Anime Cons and such.
39:36Beef Jerkey is what you should give Sarah if you see her vending.
40:35When will the transition to physical store happen?
42:17PCP continues to brainstorm ideas on making PanGaia Store a physical store
44:46All the stuff the PanGaia Store folks do.
46:54Aversion to spare time
48:15PanGaiaStore.com
48:24blogtalkradio.com/pagan-musings

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		<title>227: Advanced Healing Tactic</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week we assume you know the basics of energy work and discuss advanced healing tactic.


Regular Hosts:
Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe &#8220;Scurvy Dog&#8221; of Pagan Roadtrip
Guest Hosts:
Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Snooze  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we assume you know the <a href="/shows/pcp/75">basics of energy work</a> and discuss advanced healing tactic.<br />
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<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Amber of <a href="http://redtailarts.blogspot.com/">Red Tail Arts</a>, Branden of <a href="/men">Pagan Men</a>, Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, Joe &#8220;Scurvy Dog&#8221; of <a href="/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a></div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Amanda, Barrett of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Snooze Possum of <a href="http://snoozepossum.blogspot.com/">Hedgehog Stole My Beer!</a>.</p>
<div class="timestamp">01:18</div>
<div class="subject">We assume you know the basics now</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:47</div>
<div class="subject">What to do when someone has a minor medical issue?</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:41</div>
<div class="subject">Treating both spiritual and physical problems, ask the gagillion questions</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:42</div>
<div class="subject">Grounding as a catch-all healing tactic</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:47</div>
<div class="subject">What to do when someone has a minor medical issue?</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:41</div>
<div class="subject">Treating both spiritual and physical problems, ask the gagillion questions</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:42</div>
<div class="subject">Grounding as a catch-all healing tactic</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:53</div>
<div class="subject">Absorbing Healers</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:53</div>
<div class="subject">Absorbing Healers</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:04</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy doesn&#8217;t get headaches, just gives things.</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:17</div>
<div class="subject">Pain thresholds are different among people.</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:24</div>
<div class="subject">Dealing with serious medical issues</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:37</div>
<div class="subject">Hydration is good</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:24</div>
<div class="subject">Dealing with serious medical issues</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:06</div>
<div class="subject">Hospital-grade crazy glue and duct tape</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:14</div>
<div class="subject">Use all of your resources</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:04</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t do what Scurvy does</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:16</div>
<div class="subject">What if you need stitches?</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:48</div>
<div class="subject">Stores you can and cannot walk into while bleeding profusely.</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:12</div>
<div class="subject">Getting fixed automatically while sitting in the ER waiting room</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:29</div>
<div class="subject">Never stop bleeding when you are in the ER (ER 101)</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:57</div>
<div class="subject">Doctors are people, and some people suck at life.</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:18</div>
<div class="subject">Long-term medical issues, treating metaphysically.</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:07</div>
<div class="subject">Metaphysics works better when used in conjunction with even minimal medical knowledge.</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:25</div>
<div class="subject">Going from what the person thinks the issue is to what the issue actually is.</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:04</div>
<div class="subject">Healing energies can harm easily!</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:32</div>
<div class="subject">Generic 101 of just sending healing energy randomly vs. advanced tactic</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:15</div>
<div class="subject">Medical knowledge is needed with advanced healing metaphysically.</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:40</div>
<div class="subject">When in doubt, chicken out when it comes to healing and energy workings.</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:04</div>
<div class="subject">Healing energies can harm easily!</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:47</div>
<div class="subject">Do not proceed unless this is an area of your expertise</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:17</div>
<div class="subject">Feeding energy to those doing active healing work if you aren&#8217;t yet this skilled as a way of contributing meaningfully</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:30</div>
<div class="subject">Tactic: Single-contact healing</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:12</div>
<div class="subject">Working in a construct</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:56</div>
<div class="subject">Tactic: Time-release energy release with multiple trigger events</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:49</div>
<div class="subject">Entities to watch over the progression of healing</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:24</div>
<div class="subject">Entities that actually do the healing</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:19</div>
<div class="subject">Healing has causality issues, and can cause worse things.</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:57</div>
<div class="subject">Be aware of a person&#8217;s shielding/metaphysical self-maintenance stuff when healing them</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:58</div>
<div class="subject">Otherkin, and not responding well to healing energies</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:31</div>
<div class="subject">Do not half-ass your healing</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:11</div>
<div class="subject">Use a safe word</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:43</div>
<div class="subject">Order of healing things</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:27</div>
<div class="subject">People that heal by taking things within themselves</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:50</div>
<div class="subject">Spitting/Sucking Shamans</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:13</div>
<div class="subject">Everyone works on a different level with regards to healing, one medicine man would be willing to call upon another medicine man to assist someone</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:43</div>
<div class="subject">Remember you are working with a living person that is going through pain until you can figure stuff out, get someone else who can help.</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:16</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t promise to heal people.  Also, being an empath does not necessarily mean you&#8217;re a healer.</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:10</div>
<div class="subject">Take your time with healing</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:27</div>
<div class="subject">Assess before you START the healing process and test things out before starting.</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:41</div>
<div class="subject">Having a metaphysical healing checklist</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:43</div>
<div class="subject">You break things by being haphazard</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:52</div>
<div class="subject">Metaphysical healing, the traditional healing style</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:16</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t promise to heal people.  Also, being an empath does not necessarily mean you&#8217;re a healer.</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:46</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t promise to do something and you find yourself in over your head, it creates problems for you, them and everyone else involved.</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:18</div>
<div class="subject">You can seriously screw people up at this point, preparation is good &#8211; plan, take responsibility etc.</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:41</div>
<div class="subject">Having a metaphysical healing checklist</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:47</div>
<div class="subject">Follow up after your working, monitor them for a while &#8211; a month if possible.</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:16</div>
<div class="subject">Investigate why your healing got rejected.</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:52</div>
<div class="subject">Beware of your energy contaniminating your healing.</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:08</div>
<div class="subject">The other perspective: the one being healed</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:23</div>
<div class="subject">Metaphysical healing can unlock the fact you have many psychological issues you need to cope with.</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:24</div>
<div class="subject">Take responsibility for yourself before healing</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:24</div>
<div class="subject">Well, I was just trying to help</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:09</div>
<div class="subject">A lot of people become Pagan to rebel and not deal with their problems</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:24</div>
<div class="subject">Some people with issues deflect dealing with those issues by means of healing everyone around them.  Beware of avoidance mechanisms in others and in yourself.</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:11</div>
<div class="subject">Being an analytical, logical person and practicing Reiki</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:08</div>
<div class="subject">The other perspective: the one being healed</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:29</div>
<div class="subject">Leeroy Jenkins Reference.</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:11</div>
<div class="subject">Being an analytical, logical person and practicing Reiki</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:08</div>
<div class="subject">The other perspective: the one being healed</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:41</div>
<div class="subject">Advanced healing is so detail oriented that most people don&#8217;t have the discipline to do it</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:29</div>
<div class="subject">Leeroy Jenkins Reference.</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:43</div>
<div class="subject">Why Sam discourages energy work</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:56</div>
<div class="subject">As soon as you start healing, it seems everyone that needs healing start surrounding you.</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:01</div>
<div class="subject">Bible quote with regards to metaphysical healing</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:22</div>
<div class="subject">It&#8217;s okay to say no.</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:25</div>
<div class="subject">Reagan quote.</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:40</div>
<div class="subject">Fixing non-physical stuff.</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:59</div>
<div class="subject">Can we fix stupid?</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:09</div>
<div class="subject">Metaphysical equivalent of psychiatrists vs. physicians.</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:41</div>
<div class="subject">Pay attention to what&#8217;s going on in a person&#8217;s life while healing</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:58</div>
<div class="subject">Drama llama infestitations</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:38</div>
<div class="subject">Holistic approach: cannot treat one without treating the other.</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:41</div>
<div class="subject">Pay attention to what&#8217;s going on in a person&#8217;s life while healing</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:58</div>
<div class="subject">Drama llama infestitations</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:38</div>
<div class="subject">Holistic approach: cannot treat one without treating the other.</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:04</div>
<div class="subject">Metaphysically scanning someone for health issues</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:30</div>
<div class="subject">Energy work can be very basic or very sophisticated</div>
<div class="timestamp">51:14</div>
<div class="subject">Sorting physical vs. metaphysical trauma</div>
<div class="timestamp">51:54</div>
<div class="subject">Healing tools do not innately heal, you an mess people up even with such &#8220;healing&#8221; tools.</div>
<div class="timestamp">52:18</div>
<div class="subject">Acupuncture</div>
<div class="timestamp">52:47</div>
<div class="subject">Be aware of what&#8217;s there!</div>
<div class="timestamp">53:24</div>
<div class="subject">Healing can be very complicated.</div>
<div class="timestamp">53:43</div>
<div class="subject">Common misconception about healing.</div>
<div class="timestamp">53:43</div>
<div class="subject">Common misconception about healing.</div>
<div class="timestamp">54:50</div>
<div class="subject">Foot reflexology</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Dave</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
<ul></ul>
</li>
<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 23 Credits:
<ul>
<li><a href='http://www.archive.org/'>Internet Archive</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This week we assume you know the basics of energy work and discuss advanced healing tactic.  Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "Scurvy Dog" of Pagan Roadtrip </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week we assume you know the basics of energy work and discuss advanced healing tactic. 


Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "Scurvy Dog" of Pagan Roadtrip


Guest Hosts:
Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Snooze Possum of Hedgehog Stole My Beer!.
01:18We assume you know the basics now
01:47What to do when someone has a minor medical issue?
02:41Treating both spiritual and physical problems, ask the gagillion questions
03:42Grounding as a catch-all healing tactic
01:47What to do when someone has a minor medical issue?
02:41Treating both spiritual and physical problems, ask the gagillion questions
03:42Grounding as a catch-all healing tactic
04:53Absorbing Healers
04:53Absorbing Healers
05:04Scurvy doesn't get headaches, just gives things.
05:17Pain thresholds are different among people.
06:24Dealing with serious medical issues
05:37Hydration is good
06:24Dealing with serious medical issues
07:06Hospital-grade crazy glue and duct tape
07:14Use all of your resources
08:04Don't do what Scurvy does
08:16What if you need stitches?
08:48Stores you can and cannot walk into while bleeding profusely.
10:12Getting fixed automatically while sitting in the ER waiting room
10:29Never stop bleeding when you are in the ER (ER 101)
10:57Doctors are people, and some people suck at life.
11:18Long-term medical issues, treating metaphysically.
12:07Metaphysics works better when used in conjunction with even minimal medical knowledge.
12:25Going from what the person thinks the issue is to what the issue actually is.
15:04Healing energies can harm easily!
13:32Generic 101 of just sending healing energy randomly vs. advanced tactic
14:15Medical knowledge is needed with advanced healing metaphysically.
14:40When in doubt, chicken out when it comes to healing and energy workings.
15:04Healing energies can harm easily!
15:47Do not proceed unless this is an area of your expertise
16:17Feeding energy to those doing active healing work if you aren't yet this skilled as a way of contributing meaningfully
18:30Tactic: Single-contact healing
19:12Working in a construct
20:56Tactic: Time-release energy release with multiple trigger events
23:49Entities to watch over the progression of healing
24:24Entities that actually do the healing
25:19Healing has causality issues, and can cause worse things.
25:57Be aware of a person's shielding/metaphysical self-maintenance stuff when healing them
26:58Otherkin, and not responding well to healing energies
27:31Do not half-ass your healing
28:11Use a safe word
28:43Order of healing things
30:27People that heal by taking things within themselves
31:50Spitting/Sucking Shamans
33:13Everyone works on a different level with regards to healing, one medicine man would be willing to call upon another medicine man to assist someone
33:43Remember you are working with a living person that is going through pain until you can figure stuff out, get someone else who can help.
35:16Don't promise to heal people.  Also, being an empath does not necessarily mean you're a healer.
34:10Take your time with healing
34:27Assess before you START the healing process and test things out before starting.
36:41Having a metaphysical healing checklist
34:43You break things by being haphazard
34:52Metaphysical healing, the traditional healing style
35:16Don't promise to heal people.  Also, being an empath does not necessarily mean you're a healer.
35:46Don't promise to do something and you find yourself in over your head, it creates problems for you, them and everyone else involved.
36:18You can seriously screw people up at this point, preparation is good - plan, take responsibility etc.
36:41Having a metaphysical healing checklist
36:47Follow up after your working, monitor them for a while - a month if possible.
37:16Investigate why your healing got rejected.
</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Cast of the Pagan Centered Podcast</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>59:15</itunes:duration>
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		<title>226: Oak Myth</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 06:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week we explore the exciting world of cool masks made by Oak Myth!


Regular Hosts:
Amber of Red Tail Arts, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), &#8220;Normal&#8221; Joe of Pagan Roadtrip
Guest Hosts:
Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Ashley of Oak Myth
01:17
Normal intros, name,  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we explore the exciting world of cool masks made by Oak Myth!<br />
<br />
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<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Amber of <a href="http://redtailarts.blogspot.com/">Red Tail Arts</a>, Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, &#8220;Normal&#8221; Joe of <a href="http://PaganCenteredPodcast.com/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a></div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Amanda, Barrett of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Ashley of <a href="http://OakMyth.com">Oak Myth</a></p>
<div class="timestamp">01:17</div>
<div class="subject">Normal intros, name, location, what does your shop do?</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:32</div>
<div class="subject">How did you two first meet up?</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:58</div>
<div class="subject">Did either of you have any professional training or learn all on your own?</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:47</div>
<div class="subject">You two didn&#8217;t become friend till later, but how long have you guys been working together?</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:32</div>
<div class="subject">How did you two first meet up?</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:58</div>
<div class="subject">Did either of you have any professional training or learn all on your own?</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:47</div>
<div class="subject">You two didn&#8217;t become friend till later, but how long have you guys been working together?</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:00</div>
<div class="subject">What do you ladies do while you&#8217;re not working on masks?</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:00</div>
<div class="subject">What do you ladies do while you&#8217;re not working on masks?</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:25</div>
<div class="subject">What are/did you ladies go to school for?</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:52</div>
<div class="subject">One of the things you ladies mentioned in our early correspondences was that you were both pagan.  Can you go into your paths and how you relate it to your mask work?</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:12</div>
<div class="subject">What about you Ashley?  How was the religious upbrining?</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:53</div>
<div class="subject">Eve, with your mom being Faerie, you grew up in the path?</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:12</div>
<div class="subject">What about you Ashley?  How was the religious upbrining?</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:42</div>
<div class="subject">Can you talk about how you came up with the name OakMyth for your shop?</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:08</div>
<div class="subject">Did you start selling on Etsy?</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:15</div>
<div class="subject">Ashlee and Eve talk about their first time vending at Faerie Worlds</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:11</div>
<div class="subject">Was there anything else that inspired you guys to work on masks in specific?</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:08</div>
<div class="subject">What was the very first mask you did together?</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:48</div>
<div class="subject">What are the favorite pieces that you have made?</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:30</div>
<div class="subject">Ashley and Eve talk about their balance of lunar and solar.</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:45</div>
<div class="subject">What are the hardest masks you have made?</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:16</div>
<div class="subject">Amanda Eve asks a question: People wear personality masks, was that an inspiration of your mask making or do you seek to inspire with your creations?</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:26</div>
<div class="subject">Faerie Worlds can be awesome to let out the &#8220;inner you&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:18</div>
<div class="subject">OakMyth has had several people that get drawn to their masks becaues they feel kinship to them</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:51</div>
<div class="subject">Talking with Ashley, you do most of the design, can you tell us a little on your process?</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:32</div>
<div class="subject">Do you ladies get a lot of people trying to get specific commission pieces?</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:00</div>
<div class="subject">We start talking about commission pieces and how people seem to disappear after starting with the process</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:27</div>
<div class="subject">OakMyth shares two of the most pleasing commission pieces, one a wolf and one a phoenix.</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:51</div>
<div class="subject">Talking with Ashley, you do most of the design, can you tell us a little on your process?</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:27</div>
<div class="subject">Does the color of the mask come before you start or after it&#8217;s been tooled?</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:51</div>
<div class="subject">Does the design work ever change partially through?</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:09</div>
<div class="subject">Do changes often happen?</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:20</div>
<div class="subject">How much work actually goes into the leather once it gets into your hands?</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:32</div>
<div class="subject">They talk a bit about how big the cow hide is when they get it.</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:20</div>
<div class="subject">8oz leather takes a lot of working!</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:34</div>
<div class="subject">About how many masks can you get out of a cow hide?</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:09</div>
<div class="subject">How do you mold them to fit facial features?</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:45</div>
<div class="subject">We talk about how the masks fit and the alterations that are possible for fitting.</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:27</div>
<div class="subject">We talk a bit about the paint surviving reshaping.</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:44</div>
<div class="subject">What is the hardest thing to get the leather to do?</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:26</div>
<div class="subject">Are the horns on the dragon mask hard to do?</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:54</div>
<div class="subject">Barrett asks if someone sculpting a beak for your maniquin would help with creating a beak.</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:18</div>
<div class="subject">Some of the work depends on what kind of leather you use; 8oz vs 4oz</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:59</div>
<div class="subject">What are the time differences between simple and complex masks with just the leather work?</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:43</div>
<div class="subject">What is considered a complex design to do with just the leather work aspect of it.</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:50</div>
<div class="subject">We ask what makes the forest masks so difficult to create.</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:28</div>
<div class="subject">Painting the leather, and then shaping&#8230;doesn&#8217;t work well</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:41</div>
<div class="subject">We talk about the painting process of mask making, is there anything you have to do to prep the mask before starting?</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:06</div>
<div class="subject">What kind of paints do you use to paint on the leather?</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:26</div>
<div class="subject">What is the easiest and most efficent way to get ahold of you for a commission piece?</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:45</div>
<div class="subject">Do you use brushes or airbrush or both?</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:04</div>
<div class="subject">What is the hardest thing about painting with the leather?</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:28</div>
<div class="subject">Painting the leather, and then shaping&#8230;doesn&#8217;t work well</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:43</div>
<div class="subject">What&#8217;s the range of time between simple designs vs complex designs to paint like the pumpkin vs the peacock.</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:01</div>
<div class="subject">Are they one of a kind pieces or can you recreate anything you&#8217;ve done before?</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:26</div>
<div class="subject">What is the easiest and most efficent way to get ahold of you for a commission piece?</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:38</div>
<div class="subject">Oakmyth@gmail.com</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:57</div>
<div class="subject">What kind of information does a person need to have before they come to you with an idea?</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:49</div>
<div class="subject">What should someone expect, like amount of communication it will take, progress photos, or time constraints on a new design?</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:25</div>
<div class="subject">Wearing your mask will help your mask keep its shape.</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:58</div>
<div class="subject">The time restraints, is that so you&#8217;re not driving yourselves crazy or is there some restraints because of the leather.</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:37</div>
<div class="subject">What should people do to take care of their mask?</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:11</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t run your mask over with a car.</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:38</div>
<div class="subject">Because their varnished, they can be rubbed down with sanitizer or rubbing alcohol.</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:00</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t chew on your mask.</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:02</div>
<div class="subject">What should they do if their mask starts to get out of shape, can they be repaired?</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:25</div>
<div class="subject">Wearing your mask will help your mask keep its shape.</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:18</div>
<div class="subject">Any other explicit no-no&#8217;s ?</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:02</div>
<div class="subject">What should they do if their mask starts to get out of shape, can they be repaired?</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:25</div>
<div class="subject">Wearing your mask will help your mask keep its shape.</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:38</div>
<div class="subject">Should you treat your leather or not because of the paint and varnish?</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:18</div>
<div class="subject">Any other explicit no-no&#8217;s ?</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:43</div>
<div class="subject">Any other places besides Etsy where people can find your work?  Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, Deviant Art and Festivals!</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:32</div>
<div class="subject">Is the facebook page the easiest way to find where you will be?</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:49</div>
<div class="subject">http://www.facebook.com/oakmythmasks</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:04</div>
<div class="subject">Do you have ideas on where you plan to go from here?</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:04</div>
<div class="subject">Do you ladies have any other artistic endevors outside of the mask or do they take up too much of your time?</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:31</div>
<div class="subject">Where can we find your sketching site?</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:41</div>
<div class="subject">http://www.cricketwings.deviantart.com</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:55</div>
<div class="subject">Any last shameless plugs?</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:13</div>
<div class="subject">No extra charge for custom masks!</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:17</div>
<div class="subject">OakMyth will be at Faerie Worlds 2012!</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:43</div>
<div class="subject">They wil also be at Berkely Pagan Fest 2012!</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:13</div>
<div class="subject">No extra charge for custom masks!</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:17</div>
<div class="subject">OakMyth will be at Faerie Worlds 2012!</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:43</div>
<div class="subject">They wil also be at Berkely Pagan Fest 2012!</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:06</div>
<div class="subject">Barrett comments on the Driad, the Apollo and the Athena masks and asks if they have a Greek leaning?</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:10</div>
<div class="subject">Barrett&#8217;s favorite mask is the Apollo</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:28</div>
<div class="subject">If beaks are hard to do, was the snout for the wolf as difficult?</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:14</div>
<div class="subject">Dave talks about Faerie Worlds for a bit.</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:42</div>
<div class="subject">How many people end up at Faerie Worlds?</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:37</div>
<div class="subject">Is it a hard festival to get into to vend?</div>
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<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This week we explore the exciting world of cool masks made by Oak Myth! Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), "Normal" Joe of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week we explore the exciting world of cool masks made by Oak Myth!


Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), "Normal" Joe of Pagan Roadtrip


Guest Hosts:
Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Ashley of Oak Myth

01:17Normal intros, name, location, what does your shop do?
01:32How did you two first meet up?
01:58Did either of you have any professional training or learn all on your own?
02:47You two didn't become friend till later, but how long have you guys been working together?
01:32How did you two first meet up?
01:58Did either of you have any professional training or learn all on your own?
02:47You two didn't become friend till later, but how long have you guys been working together?
03:00What do you ladies do while you're not working on masks?
03:00What do you ladies do while you're not working on masks?
03:25What are/did you ladies go to school for?
03:52One of the things you ladies mentioned in our early correspondences was that you were both pagan.  Can you go into your paths and how you relate it to your mask work?
05:12What about you Ashley?  How was the religious upbrining?
04:53Eve, with your mom being Faerie, you grew up in the path?
05:12What about you Ashley?  How was the religious upbrining?
05:42Can you talk about how you came up with the name OakMyth for your shop?
06:08Did you start selling on Etsy?
06:15Ashlee and Eve talk about their first time vending at Faerie Worlds
07:11Was there anything else that inspired you guys to work on masks in specific?
08:08What was the very first mask you did together?
08:48What are the favorite pieces that you have made?
09:30Ashley and Eve talk about their balance of lunar and solar.
09:45What are the hardest masks you have made?
10:16Amanda Eve asks a question: People wear personality masks, was that an inspiration of your mask making or do you seek to inspire with your creations?
11:26Faerie Worlds can be awesome to let out the "inner you"
12:18OakMyth has had several people that get drawn to their masks becaues they feel kinship to them
13:51Talking with Ashley, you do most of the design, can you tell us a little on your process?
12:32Do you ladies get a lot of people trying to get specific commission pieces?
13:00We start talking about commission pieces and how people seem to disappear after starting with the process
13:27OakMyth shares two of the most pleasing commission pieces, one a wolf and one a phoenix.
13:51Talking with Ashley, you do most of the design, can you tell us a little on your process?
14:27Does the color of the mask come before you start or after it's been tooled?
14:51Does the design work ever change partially through?
15:09Do changes often happen?
15:20How much work actually goes into the leather once it gets into your hands?
15:32They talk a bit about how big the cow hide is when they get it.
16:208oz leather takes a lot of working!
16:34About how many masks can you get out of a cow hide?
17:09How do you mold them to fit facial features?
17:45We talk about how the masks fit and the alterations that are possible for fitting.
18:27We talk a bit about the paint surviving reshaping.
18:44What is the hardest thing to get the leather to do?
19:26Are the horns on the dragon mask hard to do?
19:54Barrett asks if someone sculpting a beak for your maniquin would help with creating a beak.
20:18Some of the work depends on what kind of leather you use; 8oz vs 4oz
20:59What are the time differences between simple and complex masks with just the leather work?
21:43What is considered a complex design to do with just the leather work aspect of it.
22:50We ask what makes the forest masks so difficult to create.
25:28Painting the leather, and then shaping...doesn't work well
23:41We talk about the painting process of mask making, is there anything you have to do to prep the mask before starting?
24:06What kind of paints do you use to paint on the leather?</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Cast of the Pagan Centered Podcast</itunes:author>
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		<title>225: Building Community</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ashlee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week we take a request from Peter Dybing of Covenant of the Goddess and talk about building communities.

Regular Hosts:
Amber of Red Tail Arts, Ashlee, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe of Pagan Roadtrip
Guest Hosts:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we take a request from Peter Dybing of <a href="http://cog.org">Covenant of the Goddess</a> and talk about building communities.</p>
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<div class="timestamp">00:27</div>
<div class="subject">Let&#8217;s think about why people started communities way back in history.  It provided for all of us!</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:06</div>
<div class="subject">As it is right now, it seems we need to find &#8220;interesting&#8221; ways to approach people</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:21</div>
<div class="subject">Community is like hippies with food, they don&#8217;t want to go too far to get it.</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:38</div>
<div class="subject">It&#8217;s part of the reason there are tons of PPD&#8217;s instead of just one or two in a year</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:14</div>
<div class="subject">This episode is about starting when your area doesn&#8217;t even have a pagan pride day</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:21</div>
<div class="subject">Scurv says find a book based on your interest and read it in a public place.  That may work in other areas of interest, but pagans are just mental people that tend to judge by the book you have rather than approach.</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:03</div>
<div class="subject">There&#8217;s no happy equillibrium in the community, we can just put on a nice face</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:18</div>
<div class="subject">Try doing an even that doesn&#8217;t scream I&#8217;M PAGAN, like an herbal class</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:18</div>
<div class="subject">Code words really don&#8217;t work well&#8230;fishy fishy&#8230;</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:33</div>
<div class="subject">If you&#8217;re looking to start a group.  GET THE WORD OUT.  And do it physically, not just on WitchVox.  On actual bullitin boards.</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:09</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t be anti-christian&#8230;don&#8217;t even have a giant pentacle&#8230;tone it down</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:40</div>
<div class="subject">Talk to the members in your community!</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:04</div>
<div class="subject">There are other pagans out there&#8230;GO FIND THEM</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:17</div>
<div class="subject">Get the support of the elders in your area.  They have more experience than you, and often more insight.  It may also bring people that they know to your gathering.</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:21</div>
<div class="subject">If you&#8217;re worried that people are going to kill you&#8230;do some press related things!  Get your name out there!</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:35</div>
<div class="subject">Ah&#8230;memory lane</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:11</div>
<div class="subject">The press&#8230;do stuff that reaches the GENERAL public.  Keep it simple and do it slowly.  You don&#8217;t want a huge front page article right off the bat.  Do it slowly</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:03</div>
<div class="subject">Get in touch with the local press so you can have a face to the public so they can get to know you as a person rather than a huge focus on the image of your organization</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:31</div>
<div class="subject">Do the obligitory Samhain article.  We may make fun of it, but it is easy and keeps people informed.</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:51</div>
<div class="subject">Sign it, give ways of contacting you, DO NOT USE FAKE NAMES OR MAGICKAL NAMES.  You want to make yourself availible rather than look like you&#8217;re trying to hide something</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:31</div>
<div class="subject">Try to talk respectively when you talk to the press.  Talk about what you are and what your&#8217;e doing, don&#8217;t try to automatically defend yourself against your potential readers</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:07</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t make inside jokes, you&#8217;re trying to inform people that may not be comfortable.  Don&#8217;t give them ammunition to make it a sensational story that puts you in a poor light.</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:58</div>
<div class="subject">Try to just be professional.  Not suit and tie, but you have to present yourself as honestly as you want to be percieved.</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:37</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t walk around Wal-Mart in a traditional ritual robe and then complain when you get bad press about it</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:01</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t forget the Pagan Press!  See if you have a close PNC!  Or volunteer to help them out!</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:33</div>
<div class="subject">Prime the press basically.  Don&#8217;t do it because you want attention, but do it as an information campaign</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:00</div>
<div class="subject">Read the paper you want to send an article to, know who you&#8217;re sending your words to</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:12</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t let yourself slip under the pressure of running a group.  Decide what you&#8217;re going to do if you don&#8217;t get anyone for your first meeting.  You have to be who you are and be confident as you&#8217;re running things.</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:00</div>
<div class="subject">You need to plan when you&#8217;re first meeting, and be prepared for both ends of extremems of everyone, or nobody, showing up</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:30</div>
<div class="subject">Remember to plan the second meeting&#8230;</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:39</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t worry about a regular schedule right off, and don&#8217;t do anything that will take votes right away so you have a more precise group.</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:03</div>
<div class="subject">Introduce the purpose of the organization.  Let people know why they want to be involved.  Tell them the goals that you&#8217;re setting up so they know what will be expected.</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:02</div>
<div class="subject">Try to get everyone to talk to one another.  DON&#8217;T GET A BOOK ON ICEBREAKERS</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:22</div>
<div class="subject">Best way to get everyone talking is just to ask them who they are and why they&#8217;re there</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:46</div>
<div class="subject">Set up simple things and productive things like food drives and blood drives</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:09</div>
<div class="subject">Everyone feels vulnerable when talking to someone you don&#8217;t know right off, but if you ask them unavoidable questions (like why are you here) it breaks it down and helps them just to get going!</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:32</div>
<div class="subject">You have to have some interesting questions because of it being a religious based group.  Are you having opening prayer?  Are you doing ritual?  Things like that need to be decided</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:21</div>
<div class="subject">Religious observances are easier if you let people run their own into their own subgroups so it won&#8217;t exclude anyone via the main group</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:01</div>
<div class="subject">If you claim to be a Wiccan group, be a Wiccan group.  Nothing is more frustrating than showing up to a group that has been portrayed as a study group, and come to find out the &#8220;leader&#8221; is looking to study from the attendee&#8217;s</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:54</div>
<div class="subject">Even social groups are great, just label them for what they are, not what you want to label it as to attract more people</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:14</div>
<div class="subject">Pagan Group in Clarion, we had to have a lot of sub groups to the point where something was going on every day of the week to keep everyone involved</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:39</div>
<div class="subject">Clarion interfaith group, is what birthed the idea of PCP!</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:23</div>
<div class="subject">You need to establish, at least on the second meeting, is if this is a panpagan group or a trad specific group? </div>
<div class="timestamp">24:34</div>
<div class="subject">Leadership models for your group!</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:45</div>
<div class="subject">The popular consensus model where everyone in the organization agrees to a particular thing before it is acted upon.  Can we see the problem with this???</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:56</div>
<div class="subject">Strong leader is the second model and is fairly common.  One person that leads the whole thing that can go out and get stuff done&#8230;as long as power grabbing isn&#8217;t getting in the way</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:38</div>
<div class="subject">Council model where you have a small group that makes decisions, which usually just leads to make everyone equally unhappy.</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:41</div>
<div class="subject">Dual Strong Leadership is a combination of a few models.  However it usually ends with the both of them bickering if they have differeing ideas.  Keeps them from making some really dumb decisions</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:42</div>
<div class="subject">Triumverant leadership will at least create a majority vote</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:02</div>
<div class="subject">If you&#8217;re a religious specific group, it may be in the &#8220;manuel&#8221; for the day you&#8217;re supposed to meet</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:20</div>
<div class="subject">You need to choose weekly or monthly, however it is much easier to keep attendance up if there are weekly meetings.</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:20</div>
<div class="subject">The faint noise of a goat&#8230;.</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:19</div>
<div class="subject">Decide if the meetings are open the community or just to other pagans.  Both have their good points</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:30</div>
<div class="subject">Being open to the community looks awesome to the press and to the paranoid Christians</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:11</div>
<div class="subject">Another thing you need to do, set up a yearly review!</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:55</div>
<div class="subject">Have a sign up sheet for presentors for those individuals that want to share their knowledge.  It also makes people feel part of the group rather than people feeling that you&#8217;re a dictator</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:35</div>
<div class="subject">Publically appreciate those individuals that have helped.  People like their ego stroked!</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:23</div>
<div class="subject">Set a date for the presentors as well as a back up presentor.</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:23</div>
<div class="subject">Set a date for the presentors as well as a back up presentor.</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:42</div>
<div class="subject">Maintain regular contact with the press no less than once a year for those that have moved over the past year and remind people that you&#8217;re there.  This is not a recruitment job, but just good communication skills</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:16</div>
<div class="subject">You can&#8217;t pick up chicks with a pagan group!  (Watch Red vs Blue)</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:30</div>
<div class="subject">More people will watch/stalk your group than attend.  Many pagans have grown to hate groups so many are hesitant to attend.  They want a good reason first</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:12</div>
<div class="subject">Give them different options rather than just a 101 Pagan study!</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:35</div>
<div class="subject">It is easier to collapse an organization than it is for it to flourish.  The less suck you have, the more likely you will succeed</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:56</div>
<div class="subject">The meaning of suck</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:06</div>
<div class="subject">Suck can be caused by a lot of things.  Sometimes the press can cause your suck.</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:15</div>
<div class="subject">If you know the media is coming to your event, make sure it is planned!  They&#8217;ll usually work with you if you plan with them before hand.  It also works in your advantage to give everyone in your group a head&#8217;s up in order to not say something stupid</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:55</div>
<div class="subject">Brief them on what to expect and what&#8217;s going on (and sometimes their editors as well) before they show up</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:24</div>
<div class="subject">Let everyone in your group know that the press have arrived.  Give them an escort so they are shown to all the good people and the things that they want to see</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:52</div>
<div class="subject">Escorts can also help them avoid scary people that you&#8217;d rather not be pictured on the front page</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:07</div>
<div class="subject">There are a lot of pagans that will hear your screw ups via the media, that&#8217;s not the first impression you want to give them</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:29</div>
<div class="subject">If you&#8217;re going to the media, understand people will look at you under a microscope.  Accept it and try and do the best you can.  Stop whining</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:14</div>
<div class="subject">A group collapsing is a leadership failure.</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:34</div>
<div class="subject">Lack of contributing from members is often the leader failing to give them a good incentive to participate</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:00</div>
<div class="subject">Make sure you give people ample credit for everything that people have contributed.  Even if it&#8217;s something small like chips and dip to the meetings</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:38</div>
<div class="subject">It may seem like saying Thank You can be a little thing, but it can make a world of difference for future events.</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:52</div>
<div class="subject">It becomes evident on who have given more work because of the gold stars you get.  It makes people feel good, so it may be small but it still makes a difference</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:23</div>
<div class="subject">Your group is not a school so people aren&#8217;t going to be intimidated into doing what you say.  </div>
<div class="timestamp">42:44</div>
<div class="subject">Money is not the best motivator for people to participate as well</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:53</div>
<div class="subject">Improper motivation, you need to get people to be passionate about what the organization is representing</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:17</div>
<div class="subject">You have to figure if your organization for your ego or is it about a purpose and goal that you can hand off to a new person if you choose to leave.</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:55</div>
<div class="subject">If you have an established organization, have elections to change some leaders up every now an then!</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:33</div>
<div class="subject">Organizations centered around ideas tend to last longer than if they are centered around people.</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:06</div>
<div class="subject">Keep in mind that there will eventually be hard decisions that will cause your group to lose  people.  You have to fix the problem in a stern manner in order to be percieved as a strong leader</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:02</div>
<div class="subject">Bad actions take away from the enjoyment of the rest of the group focusing on the stuff they created the group for in the first place</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:11</div>
<div class="subject">People sometimes just center on the fact they don&#8217;t want to lose any members&#8230;doesn&#8217;t work</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:32</div>
<div class="subject">You don&#8217;t have to be belligerent to fix problems, but hard decisions are just part of being a leader</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:53</div>
<div class="subject">Idea based organizations that work for positive change are often organizations that people TRY NOT TO LEAVE</div>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This week we take a request from Peter Dybing of Covenant of the Goddess and talk about building communities. - Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Ashlee, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT),</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week we take a request from Peter Dybing of Covenant of the Goddess and talk about building communities.



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00:27Let's think about why people started communities way back in history.  It provided for all of us!
01:06As it is right now, it seems we need to find "interesting" ways to approach people
01:21Community is like hippies with food, they don't want to go too far to get it.
01:38It's part of the reason there are tons of PPD's instead of just one or two in a year
02:14This episode is about starting when your area doesn't even have a pagan pride day
02:21Scurv says find a book based on your interest and read it in a public place.  That may work in other areas of interest, but pagans are just mental people that tend to judge by the book you have rather than approach.
03:03There's no happy equillibrium in the community, we can just put on a nice face
03:18Try doing an even that doesn't scream I'M PAGAN, like an herbal class
04:18Code words really don't work well...fishy fishy...
04:33If you're looking to start a group.  GET THE WORD OUT.  And do it physically, not just on WitchVox.  On actual bullitin boards.
05:09Don't be anti-christian...don't even have a giant pentacle...tone it down
05:40Talk to the members in your community!
06:04There are other pagans out there...GO FIND THEM
06:17Get the support of the elders in your area.  They have more experience than you, and often more insight.  It may also bring people that they know to your gathering.
07:21If you're worried that people are going to kill you...do some press related things!  Get your name out there!
07:35Ah...memory lane
08:11The press...do stuff that reaches the GENERAL public.  Keep it simple and do it slowly.  You don't want a huge front page article right off the bat.  Do it slowly
09:03Get in touch with the local press so you can have a face to the public so they can get to know you as a person rather than a huge focus on the image of your organization
09:31Do the obligitory Samhain article.  We may make fun of it, but it is easy and keeps people informed.
09:51Sign it, give ways of contacting you, DO NOT USE FAKE NAMES OR MAGICKAL NAMES.  You want to make yourself availible rather than look like you're trying to hide something
10:31Try to talk respectively when you talk to the press.  Talk about what you are and what your'e doing, don't try to automatically defend yourself against your potential readers
11:07Don't make inside jokes, you're trying to inform people that may not be comfortable.  Don't give them ammunition to make it a sensational story that puts you in a poor light.
11:58Try to just be professional.  Not suit and tie, but you have to present yourself as honestly as you want to be percieved.
12:37Don't walk around Wal-Mart in a traditional ritual robe and then complain when you get bad press about it
13:01Don't forget the Pagan Press!  See if you have a close PNC!  Or volunteer to help them out!
13:33Prime the press basically.  Don't do it because you want attention, but do it as an information campaign
14:00Read the paper you want to send an article to, know who you're sending your words to
14:12Don't let yourself slip under the pressure of running a group.  Decide what you're going to do if you don't get anyone for your first meeting.  You have to be who you are and be confident as you're running things.
15:00You need to plan when you're first meeting, and be prepared for both ends of extremems of everyone, or nobody, showing up
15:30Remember to plan the second meeting...
15:39Don't worry about a regular schedule right off, and don't do anything that will take votes right away so you have a more precise group.
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		<title>224: Divine Gonads in Strife – A Healthy Disrespect for the Gods</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we descend into madness as we discuss a healthy disrespect for the Gods.<br />
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<div class="GuestHost">, Miles author of <a href="http://spiralscouts.org/miles">Teaching Witchcraft: A Guide for Teachers and Students of the Old Religion</a>, Nick, NRia of <a href="http://www.anonyops.com/">Anonymous</a>, Peter Dybing of <a href="http://cog.org">Covenant of the Goddess</a>, Snooze of <a href="http://snoozepossum.blogspot.com">Portable Weirdness</a></div>
<div class="timestamp">00:30</div>
<div class="subject">What is a deity?  Are you a god?</div>
<div class="timestamp">00:52</div>
<div class="subject">God, also known as the guy with bigger guns.  So Stalin was a god? Sweet!</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:00</div>
<div class="subject">God: Game Operations Director&#8230;he was a jerk</div>
<div class="timestamp">00:52</div>
<div class="subject">God, also known as the guy with bigger guns.  So Stalin was a god? Sweet!</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:19</div>
<div class="subject">Answering without answering&#8230;deity&#8230;something that is divine</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:12</div>
<div class="subject">A piece of well aged brie is divine, is cheese god?</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:31</div>
<div class="subject">Scurv says anything non corporeal with a personality that affects your life&#8230;wait&#8230;ghosts?</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:28</div>
<div class="subject">Gods are supernatural, therefore don&#8217;t exsist.  If they existed they wouldn&#8217;t be supernatural.  Enjoy the paradox</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:49</div>
<div class="subject">Branden pokes holes in Scurv&#8217;s theory with using the example of angels and demons</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:38</div>
<div class="subject">Logic proves that you exist, and therefore you don&#8217;t.  Oh dear said God, and disappeared in a poof of logic</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:48</div>
<div class="subject">God is the personification of a community of a culture</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:58</div>
<div class="subject">Gods are everyone at the top of a spiritual food chain</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:10</div>
<div class="subject">Does that mean Gods eat everyone else?&#8230;hold on a second!</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:25</div>
<div class="subject">Dave what thinks Gods consume is free will</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:33</div>
<div class="subject">Scurv drones about the vampire god</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:41</div>
<div class="subject">Amber disagree&#8217;s with the idea of just free will being consumed</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:58</div>
<div class="subject">Snooze talks about her experiences and thinks maybe energy</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:14</div>
<div class="subject">We talk about the God and Mana and energy and food</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:32</div>
<div class="subject">Sometimes it&#8217;s not necessarily intentionally feeding them your energy, like nature deities can feed of the growing energy of growing plants</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:50</div>
<div class="subject">Dave talks about emotional manipulation</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:34</div>
<div class="subject">Scurv says when you tell the gods to go Facebook off</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:12</div>
<div class="subject">We get to be dirts!</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:22</div>
<div class="subject">Here starts a huge tangent on people who have been shot into space instead of being buried and turning to dirts</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:18</div>
<div class="subject">What do we mean by disrespect in this context?</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:47</div>
<div class="subject">Where do we get the idea that it&#8217;s necessary to respect the Gods?</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:16</div>
<div class="subject">You can be disrespectful, just don&#8217;t be belligerent</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:20</div>
<div class="subject">Snooze drops some more elaborate examples using Oden, the Morrigan and Kali</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:45</div>
<div class="subject">Amber talks about how she views interacting with the Gods.  It seems to be just like interactions with people more than super space being</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:32</div>
<div class="subject">Miles talks about how one main religion has their followers in a perpetual child like state looking for answers from a &#8220;father&#8221; figure in the sky</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:15</div>
<div class="subject">Pagan Gods seem to want to have followers that know how to grow up and do things for themselves</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:26</div>
<div class="subject">As children grow, they don&#8217;t disrespect their parents but learn to see them through different eyes</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:10</div>
<div class="subject">It&#8217;s not always worshiping, sometimes it&#8217;s more like a relationship</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:24</div>
<div class="subject">Just like with people, there&#8217;s some deities that you&#8217;ll never need to tell to Facebook off because they&#8217;re just naturally cool.</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:46</div>
<div class="subject">Sucking up often creates different feelings than being respected.  Scurv trashes Snoozes metaphor</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:38</div>
<div class="subject">There&#8217;s some Gods that just respect you more if you don&#8217;t worship on your knees</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:54</div>
<div class="subject">Amber tries to use a parental type metaphor to relate to interacting with the Gods.</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:33</div>
<div class="subject">Is there a divine CYS too?  Oh wait&#8230;that&#8217;s what happened to the old testement God!!!  He had all his children taken away!</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:16</div>
<div class="subject">Miles uses another quote to illustrate how you can&#8217;t respect someone who kisses your ass.  So maybe the Gods won&#8217;t respect us if we kiss their ass</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:46</div>
<div class="subject">Where do we learn all this protocol?  From the dogma</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:07</div>
<div class="subject">Maybe some of it is because we&#8217;re told to, but it can also be (using the parent metaphor) they are more experienced and wiser than we so they can help us learn</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:49</div>
<div class="subject">God people&#8230;they know stuff&#8230;not like Harry Potter</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:25</div>
<div class="subject">Hey fluff audience?  We lose you yet?</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:37</div>
<div class="subject">What started the idea for this episode?  Dave explains how everyone asking the Gods for every tiny little petty thing annoys the crap out of him</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:17</div>
<div class="subject">Miles gave an open ended question on Facebook using the classic &#8216;Footprints&#8217; poem.  Fill in different answers that God would give rather than &#8220;because I carried you in times of your weakness&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:28</div>
<div class="subject">Amber recants a conversation with a friend&#8217;s interactions with Brigid where Brigid tells her to keep going instead of going to help her friend</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:31</div>
<div class="subject">Amber has friends!  Woah!</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:38</div>
<div class="subject">Joe has friends too&#8230;but he pays them..</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:14</div>
<div class="subject">Peter Dybing: If the gods are carrying me, should I be concerned about he destination?</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:36</div>
<div class="subject">If you had a parent that sheltered you to a huge degree, you&#8217;d never do ANYTHING for yourself</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:56</div>
<div class="subject">Have you ever asked the Gods for help and they told you to do it your damned self?</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:34</div>
<div class="subject">Scurv wants you to invite your deity into your good days, not just when you need it</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:49</div>
<div class="subject">Amber says, let them know you appreciate the hard lessons after you&#8217;re done drying your tears</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:06</div>
<div class="subject">Snooze says an easy thanks is a good mug of beer!</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:54</div>
<div class="subject">Telephone&#8230;the Gods are calling&#8230;apparently their pissed&#8230;</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:11</div>
<div class="subject">The gods know what&#8217;s instore&#8230;and it&#8217;s cool.  Come along for the ride!</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:51</div>
<div class="subject">Why does it feel like my deity is making popcorn?</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:03</div>
<div class="subject">Gods love heroes, they also love a good laugh&#8230;think about it?</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:23</div>
<div class="subject">What you gonna do when they come for you&#8230;deities, deities&#8230;</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:02</div>
<div class="subject">Team Jesus&#8230;they think that Jesus directs their missles and bullets so they hit their marks.</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:53</div>
<div class="subject">Language is not barred from the FCC&#8230;it&#8217;s sex!</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:05</div>
<div class="subject">If you&#8217;re trying to show respect, how about not being a celestial slut by handing out dedications like a free pass</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:41</div>
<div class="subject">There&#8217;s a difference between dedications and working with deities too</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:57</div>
<div class="subject">It&#8217;s a meaningless gesture if you don&#8217;t even know who you&#8217;re invoking into your ritual</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:02</div>
<div class="subject">Dave nicely explains the difference between working with and dedication</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:16</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t dedicate to another God if you don&#8217;t know if they&#8217;re okay with poly!</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:20</div>
<div class="subject">Church of Dave!  It has been decreed!</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:34</div>
<div class="subject">Hey Everyone!  Dedicate yourself to Dave!</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:59</div>
<div class="subject">Whether you&#8217;ve dedicated yourself to a deity or not, there&#8217;s respect in just doing your homework about them first</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:18</div>
<div class="subject">Loki, he likes cherry tarts</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:22</div>
<div class="subject">Sometimes deities come and ask for help, and it&#8217;s just a good idea to help them out</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:37</div>
<div class="subject">If they ask like an ass&#8230;that doesn&#8217;t mean you have to oblidge, just remember they may not seem a problem with barging into your bedroom in the middle of being intimite to ask for help</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:08</div>
<div class="subject">Remember, listening blindly to some deities (like Coyote) blindly may end up to not be so good for you</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:02</div>
<div class="subject">You can disrespect the Gods, but don&#8217;t give them a reason to make your life miserable</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:42</div>
<div class="subject">Respectfully disrespecting&#8230;Amber uses a Rattlesnake example to illustrate</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:08</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t go out of your way to be belligerent to a deity&#8230;you&#8217;re being an ass</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:49</div>
<div class="subject">Snooze shares an example of an unwanted entity tried to get her to make changes&#8230;and the deities she worked with told her that Snooze should tell the new commer to sod off.</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:24</div>
<div class="subject">You Shall Not Pass&#8230;THE MOVIE</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:42</div>
<div class="subject">Snooze see&#8217;s Oden as Ian McKellen in rattier clothing&#8230;epic win</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:01</div>
<div class="subject">The Dagda, a cross between Santa Clause and Jerry Garcia</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:22</div>
<div class="subject">Is the presumed respect God because it&#8217;s because he&#8217;s a super force to be feared or is it  because you can laugh at him as well as with him?</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:17</div>
<div class="subject">Scurv laments about deities wanting him to do something</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:28</div>
<div class="subject">NRia wants an example&#8230;wait..of crickets?</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:44</div>
<div class="subject">Scurv is a tease.  If you&#8217;re a woman in the South Central PA, let us hook you up with Scurv!</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:12</div>
<div class="subject">Facebook has too much derp&#8230;that&#8217;s why we moved to Google Plus!  Look us up!</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:29</div>
<div class="subject">Do athiests deify science, and if they do, what they do to disrespect it?  Belive in something?</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:55</div>
<div class="subject">Being evil in one religion, makes you another religion&#8230;awesome!</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:04</div>
<div class="subject">Dave summerizes the episode&#8230;GO</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:16</div>
<div class="subject">1. Some entities want to empower humans&#8230;not all of them want blind worship!</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:33</div>
<div class="subject">Stop Groveling!</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:36</div>
<div class="subject">2. Some entities don&#8217;t take disrespect well, some are powerhungry narcissists</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:46</div>
<div class="subject">3. There is no mystical race called Gods</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:01</div>
<div class="subject">Gods come in all shapes and colors&#8230;like Dave shapes</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:19</div>
<div class="subject">All Hail Dave!  Lord of Purple!</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:27</div>
<div class="subject">Cult of Amber, we&#8217;ve grown bigger than the Faerie Tradition!</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:09</div>
<div class="subject">5. Deities can belong to multiple pantheons&#8230;just don&#8217;t say it too loudly</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:38</div>
<div class="subject">Does Zeus answer Jupiter&#8217;s e-mail?</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:47</div>
<div class="subject">Zeus is the hotmail&#8230;Jupiter is for gmail</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:59</div>
<div class="subject">Miles makes a no Roman charges joke&#8230;and it leads to the start of gonads in strife</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:23</div>
<div class="subject">Gonads in strife begins!  </div>
<div class="timestamp">42:33</div>
<div class="subject">Dave performs his first miracle and makes Snooze spit tea!</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:54</div>
<div class="subject">Dave&#8217;s in the Catholic patheon because of his miracle, maybe it&#8217;ll help it stop sucking&#8230;at least till he leaves</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:17</div>
<div class="subject">Dave is the spirit of air???</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:46</div>
<div class="subject">What about a pirate accent and booty?  WTF?</div>
<h2>Credits</h2>
<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Amber</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
<ul></ul>
</li>
<li>PCP is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.</a></li>
<li>Season 22 Credits:
<ul>
<li><a href='http://www.archive.org/'>Internet Archive</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This week we descend into madness as we discuss a healthy disrespect for the Gods. Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Ashlee, Branden of Pagan Men Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe of Pagan Roadtrip </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week we descend into madness as we discuss a healthy disrespect for the Gods.




Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Ashlee, Branden of Pagan Men Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe of Pagan Roadtrip


Guest Hosts:
, Miles author of Teaching Witchcraft: A Guide for Teachers and Students of the Old Religion, Nick, NRia of Anonymous, Peter Dybing of Covenant of the Goddess, Snooze of Portable Weirdness


00:30What is a deity?  Are you a god?
00:52God, also known as the guy with bigger guns.  So Stalin was a god? Sweet!
01:00God: Game Operations Director...he was a jerk
00:52God, also known as the guy with bigger guns.  So Stalin was a god? Sweet!
01:19Answering without answering...deity...something that is divine
02:12A piece of well aged brie is divine, is cheese god?
02:31Scurv says anything non corporeal with a personality that affects your life...wait...ghosts?
03:28Gods are supernatural, therefore don't exsist.  If they existed they wouldn't be supernatural.  Enjoy the paradox
02:49Branden pokes holes in Scurv's theory with using the example of angels and demons
03:38Logic proves that you exist, and therefore you don't.  Oh dear said God, and disappeared in a poof of logic
03:48God is the personification of a community of a culture
03:58Gods are everyone at the top of a spiritual food chain
04:10Does that mean Gods eat everyone else?...hold on a second!
04:25Dave what thinks Gods consume is free will
04:33Scurv drones about the vampire god
04:41Amber disagree's with the idea of just free will being consumed
04:58Snooze talks about her experiences and thinks maybe energy
05:14We talk about the God and Mana and energy and food
05:32Sometimes it's not necessarily intentionally feeding them your energy, like nature deities can feed of the growing energy of growing plants
05:50Dave talks about emotional manipulation
07:34Scurv says when you tell the gods to go Facebook off
06:12We get to be dirts!
06:22Here starts a huge tangent on people who have been shot into space instead of being buried and turning to dirts
07:18What do we mean by disrespect in this context?
07:47Where do we get the idea that it's necessary to respect the Gods?
08:16You can be disrespectful, just don't be belligerent
08:20Snooze drops some more elaborate examples using Oden, the Morrigan and Kali
09:45Amber talks about how she views interacting with the Gods.  It seems to be just like interactions with people more than super space being
10:32Miles talks about how one main religion has their followers in a perpetual child like state looking for answers from a "father" figure in the sky
11:15Pagan Gods seem to want to have followers that know how to grow up and do things for themselves
11:26As children grow, they don't disrespect their parents but learn to see them through different eyes
12:10It's not always worshiping, sometimes it's more like a relationship
12:24Just like with people, there's some deities that you'll never need to tell to Facebook off because they're just naturally cool.
12:46Sucking up often creates different feelings than being respected.  Scurv trashes Snoozes metaphor
13:38There's some Gods that just respect you more if you don't worship on your knees
13:54Amber tries to use a parental type metaphor to relate to interacting with the Gods.
14:33Is there a divine CYS too?  Oh wait...that's what happened to the old testement God!!!  He had all his children taken away!
15:16Miles uses another quote to illustrate how you can't respect someone who kisses your ass.  So maybe the Gods won't respect us if we kiss their ass
15:46Where do we learn all this protocol?  From the dogma
16:07Maybe some of it is because we're told to, but it can also be (using the parent metaphor) they are more experienced and wiser than we so they can help us learn
16:49God people...they know stuff...not like Harry Potter
17:25Hey fluff audience?  We lose you yet?
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		<dc:creator>Ashlee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week we continue our discussion on UPGs.


Regular Hosts:
Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe of Pagan Roadtrip
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we continue our discussion on UPGs.<br />
<br />
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<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Amber of <a href="http://redtailarts.blogspot.com/">Red Tail Arts</a>, Branden of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a> Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, Joe of <a href="http://PaganCenteredPodcast.com/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a></div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Adam, Amanda, Barrett of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Dave Carron of <a href="http://ravencast.podbean.com/">Ravencast</a>, Miles author of <a href="http://spiralscouts.org/miles">Teaching Witchcraft: A Guide for Teachers and Students of the Old Religion</a>, Sandi Carron of <a href="http://ravencast.podbean.com/">Ravencast</a>, Snooze of <a href="http://snoozepossum.blogspot.com">Portable Weirdness</a></div>
<p></p>
<div class="timestamp">01:09</div>
<div class="subject">UPG not necessarily for your benefit</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:36</div>
<div class="subject">Coyote loves the Dead Kennedys</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:45</div>
<div class="subject">Dave Carron&#8217;s fun UPG</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:20</div>
<div class="subject">Dave Carron: Christian Hell may in fact be Valhallah</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:54</div>
<div class="subject">Sandi takes a look at Niflheim &#8211; the Goddess Hel&#8217;s domain</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:02</div>
<div class="subject">Christianity is a death cult</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:36</div>
<div class="subject">Miles channels the comedian Sam Kinison</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:54</div>
<div class="subject">Common sense is a superpower</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:07</div>
<div class="subject">Burning Man festival is actually Hell</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:18</div>
<div class="subject">Inverse Hell</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:46</div>
<div class="subject">Amish afterlife &#8211; its okay, they don&#8217;t have computers to hear this</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:12</div>
<div class="subject">Traditions that embrace UPGs</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:27</div>
<div class="subject">What does &#8220;embrace&#8221; mean?</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:06</div>
<div class="subject">UPG disclaimer</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:54</div>
<div class="subject">Miles channels They Might Be Giants</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:08</div>
<div class="subject">Trads based mostly on UPGs</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:26</div>
<div class="subject">UPGs in Native Tradition</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:20</div>
<div class="subject">Christian UPGs</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:48</div>
<div class="subject">All religions based on UPGs</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:55</div>
<div class="subject">UPGs that get people the ban hammer</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:09</div>
<div class="subject">Magical underpants</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:18</div>
<div class="subject">UPGs and the birth of new religions</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:15</div>
<div class="subject">When UPG goes too far</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:26</div>
<div class="subject">Going beyond the lore</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:58</div>
<div class="subject">Sandi&#8217;s breaking point on UPGs</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:32</div>
<div class="subject">Dave Carron on &#8220;beyond the lore&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:56</div>
<div class="subject">Compartmentalizing the Gods</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:09</div>
<div class="subject">Fact and belief</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:59</div>
<div class="subject">Does it inhibit your function in society?</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:12</div>
<div class="subject">Dealing with cult leaders and crazy people</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:15</div>
<div class="subject">How to define a healthy UPG</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:52</div>
<div class="subject">Isaac Bonewits Cult Danger Evaluation Frame</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:04</div>
<div class="subject">Look to the &#8220;wholeness&#8221; of the person</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:43</div>
<div class="subject">Helping people think for themselves</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:21</div>
<div class="subject">How Snooze evaluates people</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:07</div>
<div class="subject">Broken people with broken guts</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:58</div>
<div class="subject">A Scurvy heuristic</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:44</div>
<div class="subject">Amber clarifies her earlier point</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:58</div>
<div class="subject">Dividing line &#8211; beyond acceptable risk</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:55</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy&#8217;s intuition heuristic</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:11</div>
<div class="subject">Dangers of too many UPGs</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:54</div>
<div class="subject">Dave and Amber talk about a certain someone from Clarion who also liked to throw shoes</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:54</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t click the links</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:11</div>
<div class="subject">NAPPA has incompetence</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:37</div>
<div class="subject">Suggested listening: Secrets in Plain Sight ep 252</div>
<p></p>
<h2>Credits</h2>
<ul>
<li>Post-produced by: Ashlee</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:<br />
<a href="http://www.neopagan.net/ABCDEF.html">Isaac Bonewits&#8217; Advanced Cult Danger Evaluation Frame</a><br />
<a href="http://secrets.libsyn.com/">Secrets in Plain Sight podcast</a></li>
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<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This week we continue our discussion on UPGs. Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Adam, Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week we continue our discussion on UPGs.




Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe of Pagan Roadtrip


Guest Hosts:
Adam, Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Dave Carron of Ravencast, Miles author of Teaching Witchcraft: A Guide for Teachers and Students of the Old Religion, Sandi Carron of Ravencast, Snooze of Portable Weirdness



01:09UPG not necessarily for your benefit
01:36Coyote loves the Dead Kennedys
01:45Dave Carron's fun UPG
02:20Dave Carron: Christian Hell may in fact be Valhallah
02:54Sandi takes a look at Niflheim - the Goddess Hel's domain
04:02Christianity is a death cult
04:36Miles channels the comedian Sam Kinison
05:54Common sense is a superpower
07:07Burning Man festival is actually Hell
07:18Inverse Hell
07:46Amish afterlife - its okay, they don't have computers to hear this
09:12Traditions that embrace UPGs
09:27What does "embrace" mean?
10:06UPG disclaimer
10:54Miles channels They Might Be Giants
11:08Trads based mostly on UPGs
11:26UPGs in Native Tradition
12:20Christian UPGs
12:48All religions based on UPGs
12:55UPGs that get people the ban hammer
13:09Magical underpants
13:18UPGs and the birth of new religions
15:15When UPG goes too far
15:26Going beyond the lore
16:58Sandi's breaking point on UPGs
17:32Dave Carron on "beyond the lore"
18:56Compartmentalizing the Gods
20:09Fact and belief
22:59Does it inhibit your function in society?
24:12Dealing with cult leaders and crazy people
25:15How to define a healthy UPG
25:52Isaac Bonewits Cult Danger Evaluation Frame
27:04Look to the "wholeness" of the person
28:43Helping people think for themselves
29:21How Snooze evaluates people
31:07Broken people with broken guts
32:58A Scurvy heuristic
33:44Amber clarifies her earlier point
35:58Dividing line - beyond acceptable risk
36:55Scurvy's intuition heuristic
38:11Dangers of too many UPGs
38:54Dave and Amber talk about a certain someone from Clarion who also liked to throw shoes
40:54Don't click the links
43:11NAPPA has incompetence
44:37Suggested listening: Secrets in Plain Sight ep 252



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		<title>222: Unverified Personal Gnosis Part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 05:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week we begin our discussion of UPGs or Unverified Personal Gnosis!

Regular Hosts:
Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe of Pagan Roadtrip
Guest Hosts:
Adam, Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Dave Carron of Ravencast, Miles  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we begin our discussion of UPGs or Unverified Personal Gnosis!<br />
<span id="more-5515"></span></p>
<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Amber of <a href="http://redtailarts.blogspot.com/">Red Tail Arts</a>, Branden of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a> Dave of <a href="http://fitpagan.WordPress.com">Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT)</a>, Joe of <a href="http://PaganCenteredPodcast.com/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a></div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Adam, Amanda, Barrett of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Dave Carron of <a href="http://ravencast.podbean.com/">Ravencast</a>, Miles author of <a href="http://spiralscouts.org/miles">Teaching Witchcraft: A Guide for Teachers and Students of the Old Religion</a>, Sandi Carron of <a href="http://ravencast.podbean.com/">Ravencast</a>, Snooze of <a href="http://snoozepossum.blogspot.com">Portable Weirdness</a></div>
<p></p>
<div class="timestamp">01:54</div>
<div class="subject">Snooze defines UPG</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:59</div>
<div class="subject">Assumption of lore</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:40</div>
<div class="subject">Moving the subjective to the non subjective</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:53</div>
<div class="subject">Snoozes UPG lab rat tests</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:09</div>
<div class="subject">UPGs and religious faith changing experiences</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:48</div>
<div class="subject">Importance of common reference</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:05</div>
<div class="subject">Why Snooze created her UPG tests</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:11</div>
<div class="subject">Recons and UPGs</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:00</div>
<div class="subject">Snooze wants to turn Sandi into a lab rat</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:46</div>
<div class="subject">Snooze&#8217;s relationship with Recons</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:37</div>
<div class="subject">Getting to the &#8220;unusual&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:00</div>
<div class="subject">Working with animal spirits/ wights</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:14</div>
<div class="subject">Snooze&#8217;s homework</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:04</div>
<div class="subject">Miles&#8217; example of a non-religious UPG</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:51</div>
<div class="subject">Ghost avatar</div>
<div class="timestamp">13:59</div>
<div class="subject">Sandi&#8217;s example of a mundane UPG</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:59</div>
<div class="subject">UPGs and walking the &#8220;crazy plank&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:38</div>
<div class="subject">material interface point/ &#8220;anchor&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:00</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy and Miles&#8217; PSAs</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:23</div>
<div class="subject">It&#8217;s &#8220;w-i-g-h-t&#8221; not &#8220;w-h-i-t-e&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">17:32</div>
<div class="subject">Dave Carron and verifying Personal Gnosises &#8211; Frejya&#8217;s cats</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:35</div>
<div class="subject">Where is your input coming from?  More misadventures from Snooze&#8217;s UPG class</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:26</div>
<div class="subject">Snooze&#8217;s experience with animal spirits</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:51</div>
<div class="subject">Another PSA &#8211; Amber and jewelery</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:08</div>
<div class="subject">Dave Carron on &#8220;verification process&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:04</div>
<div class="subject">Importance of &#8220;keeping it small&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:50</div>
<div class="subject">Importance of keep groups small</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:40</div>
<div class="subject">Importance of evidence and &#8220;realness&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:39</div>
<div class="subject">Selfishness vs practical</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:58</div>
<div class="subject">Giving validation of another&#8217;s UPG</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:34</div>
<div class="subject">Reality testing</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:49</div>
<div class="subject">the &#8220;laugh test&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:22</div>
<div class="subject">No room for &#8220;weak point of view&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:57</div>
<div class="subject">Extrodinary claims &#8211; Extraordinary proof</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:16</div>
<div class="subject">UPGs, who gets em?</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:32</div>
<div class="subject">UPGs treated like a venarial disease in some parts of the Pagan community</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:11</div>
<div class="subject">The GOPs and their UPGs</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:55</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy gives Dave Carron a headache</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:02</div>
<div class="subject">Universe is just doin&#8217; it for the lulz</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:11</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy&#8217;s side subject on intuition</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:30</div>
<div class="subject">Sandi&#8217;s experience with Norse spiritual work</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:09</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy&#8217;s UPG experiment</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:56</div>
<div class="subject">Barrett&#8217;s UPG</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:36</div>
<div class="subject">Sandi&#8217;s UPG</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:47</div>
<div class="subject">Drawbacks to having a &#8220;baseline&#8221; with lore</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:08</div>
<div class="subject">Dave Carron on &#8220;Elves, wights, and trolls&#8221; by Kveldulf Gundarsson</div>
<div class="timestamp">42:04</div>
<div class="subject">UPGs and regional perceptions of divinity</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:01</div>
<div class="subject">Non affirmation of the Pagan deity (Gods created by man)</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:19</div>
<div class="subject">Similar region leads to similar UPGs?</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:48</div>
<div class="subject">When Birgit met Pele</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:40</div>
<div class="subject">Iceland loves their Landvættirs</div>
<div class="timestamp">44:51</div>
<div class="subject">Long distance worshipping</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:07</div>
<div class="subject">Answer: adapt</div>
<div class="timestamp">45:25</div>
<div class="subject">Amber&#8217;s UPG experience</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:30</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy on the motives of dieties</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:40</div>
<div class="subject">Goes back to DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!11!</div>
<div class="timestamp">47:15</div>
<div class="subject">When does Unverified become Verified?</div>
<div class="timestamp">48:52</div>
<div class="subject">Dave Carron and Sandi on &#8220;messages from the Gods&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:38</div>
<div class="subject">Scurvy plays devil&#8217;s advocate</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:52</div>
<div class="subject">Dave Carron&#8217;s prerequistes on being married to a God</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:18</div>
<div class="subject">More Scurvy troubleshooting</div>
<div class="timestamp">51:01</div>
<div class="subject">Dave Carron denies the existance of &#8220;uber special snowflakes&#8221;</div>
<div class="timestamp">51:34</div>
<div class="subject">Assertion of UPGs on others</div>
<p></p>
<h2>Credits</h2>
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<li>Post-produced by: Ashlee</li>
<li>List of resources used or mentioned:
<ul></ul>
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<li><a href='http://www.paganradio.net/'>Pagan Radio Network &#8211; Pagan Radio Network</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/354802'>[DH] Lethal Destiny</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/170554'>_-={Everlasting Times}=-_</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/290238'>_-={Forces United!}=-_</a></li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This week we begin our discussion of UPGs or Unverified Personal Gnosis! - Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Adam, Amanda,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week we begin our discussion of UPGs or Unverified Personal Gnosis!



Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe of Pagan Roadtrip


Guest Hosts:
Adam, Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Dave Carron of Ravencast, Miles author of Teaching Witchcraft: A Guide for Teachers and Students of the Old Religion, Sandi Carron of Ravencast, Snooze of Portable Weirdness



01:54Snooze defines UPG
02:59Assumption of lore
03:40Moving the subjective to the non subjective
03:53Snoozes UPG lab rat tests
04:09UPGs and religious faith changing experiences
04:48Importance of common reference
05:05Why Snooze created her UPG tests
06:11Recons and UPGs
07:00Snooze wants to turn Sandi into a lab rat
08:46Snooze's relationship with Recons
09:37Getting to the "unusual"
10:00Working with animal spirits/ wights
11:14Snooze's homework
12:04Miles' example of a non-religious UPG
12:51Ghost avatar
13:59Sandi's example of a mundane UPG
14:59UPGs and walking the "crazy plank"
16:38material interface point/ "anchor"
17:00Scurvy and Miles' PSAs
17:23It's "w-i-g-h-t" not "w-h-i-t-e"
17:32Dave Carron and verifying Personal Gnosises - Frejya's cats
20:35Where is your input coming from?  More misadventures from Snooze's UPG class
21:26Snooze's experience with animal spirits
22:51Another PSA - Amber and jewelery
23:08Dave Carron on "verification process"
24:04Importance of "keeping it small"
25:50Importance of keep groups small
26:40Importance of evidence and "realness"
27:39Selfishness vs practical
27:58Giving validation of another's UPG
28:34Reality testing
28:49the "laugh test"
29:22No room for "weak point of view"
29:57Extrodinary claims - Extraordinary proof
30:16UPGs, who gets em?
30:32UPGs treated like a venarial disease in some parts of the Pagan community
31:11The GOPs and their UPGs
31:55Scurvy gives Dave Carron a headache
32:02Universe is just doin' it for the lulz
32:11Scurvy's side subject on intuition
32:30Sandi's experience with Norse spiritual work
34:09Scurvy's UPG experiment
35:56Barrett's UPG
36:36Sandi's UPG
39:47Drawbacks to having a "baseline" with lore
41:08Dave Carron on "Elves, wights, and trolls" by Kveldulf Gundarsson
42:04UPGs and regional perceptions of divinity
43:01Non affirmation of the Pagan deity (Gods created by man)
43:19Similar region leads to similar UPGs?
43:48When Birgit met Pele
44:40Iceland loves their Landvættirs
44:51Long distance worshipping
45:07Answer: adapt
45:25Amber's UPG experience
46:30Scurvy on the motives of dieties
46:40Goes back to DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!11!
47:15When does Unverified become Verified?
48:52Dave Carron and Sandi on "messages from the Gods"
49:38Scurvy plays devil's advocate
49:52Dave Carron's prerequistes on being married to a God
50:18More Scurvy troubleshooting
51:01Dave Carron denies the existance of "uber special snowflakes"
51:34Assertion of UPGs on others



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		<title>221: So You Want A Tarot Reading</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week the crew gives some tips and tricks on Tarot Readings.


Regular Hosts:
Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Joe of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam
Guest Hosts:
Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Miles author of Teaching Witchcraft: A Guide for Teachers and Students of the Old Religion, NRia of  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week the crew gives some tips and tricks on Tarot Readings.<br />
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<p></p>
<div id="RegularHostsLabel">Regular Hosts:</div>
<div class="RegularHost">Amber of <a href="http://redtailarts.blogspot.com/">Red Tail Arts</a>, Branden of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Joe of <a href="http://PaganCenteredPodcast.com/roadtrip">Pagan Roadtrip</a>, Sam</div>
<div id="GuestHostsLabel">Guest Hosts:</div>
<div class="GuestHost">Amanda, Barrett of <a href="http://ImBleedingProfusely.com/men">Pagan Men</a>, Miles author of <a href="http://spiralscouts.org/miles">Teaching Witchcraft: A Guide for Teachers and Students of the Old Religion</a>, NRia of <a href="http://www.anonyops.com/">Anonymous</a> Snooze of <a href="http://snoozepossum.blogspot.com">Portable Weirdness</a></div>
<p></p>
<div class="timestamp">01:22</div>
<div class="subject">Why we need to provide a Tarot Disclaimer!</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:35</div>
<div class="subject">So you&#8217;re considering a Tarot Card Reading?</div>
<div class="timestamp">01:51</div>
<div class="subject">Discouraging undesired situations/repetitions.</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:04</div>
<div class="subject">Secrets!</div>
<div class="timestamp">02:27</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t bring your partner with you to a tarot reading if you&#8217;re cheating on them!</div>
<div class="timestamp">03:46</div>
<div class="subject">People that get a reading but do not want insight</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:33</div>
<div class="subject">If you want something positive, go read fortune cookies.</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:36</div>
<div class="subject">61-card reading reference.</div>
<div class="timestamp">04:43</div>
<div class="subject">Some want readings just for validation</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:01</div>
<div class="subject">The threat of an impending reading can help people sort things out in their lives.</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:25</div>
<div class="subject">Not all readings are doom, gloom and painful.</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:39</div>
<div class="subject">Card readings can be inaccurate, but generally don&#8217;t work to accommodate your ego.</div>
<div class="timestamp">05:58</div>
<div class="subject">When thinking of questions, remember the cards may not reply in any expected manner &#8211; may even answer a different question or refuse any response.</div>
<div class="timestamp">06:49</div>
<div class="subject">Cards can reply to belligerance with an insult.</div>
<div class="timestamp">07:36</div>
<div class="subject">Cards sometimes take queries in a completely different direction, sometimes more important/pertinent stuff.  But some people just horribly mis-interpret readings.</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:13</div>
<div class="subject">Cards have a habit of telling you what you NEED to hear.</div>
<div class="timestamp">08:30</div>
<div class="subject">Different decks behave differently</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:14</div>
<div class="subject">Tarot readings to understand what piece of the puzzle you are missing.</div>
<div class="timestamp">09:59</div>
<div class="subject">Amber&#8217;s deck has the ability to be sarcastic.</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:15</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t expect a 2 card answer to a complex problem</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:31</div>
<div class="subject">Proper conduct during a Tarot reading.</div>
<div class="timestamp">10:52</div>
<div class="subject">Eliminate distractions.</div>
<div class="timestamp">11:23</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t interrupt or spy on someone else&#8217;s reading.</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:20</div>
<div class="subject">Readers requesting readings when they have a huge ego and an axe to grind.</div>
<div class="timestamp">12:52</div>
<div class="subject">Moral support and your responsibility for your cheerleaders.</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:06</div>
<div class="subject">Tarot readings are not like fortune cookie readings!</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:36</div>
<div class="subject">Let people enjoy their reading regardless if they believe in it or not &#8211; don&#8217;t be an ass.</div>
<div class="timestamp">14:57</div>
<div class="subject">Beligerance and questioning are different things.</div>
<div class="timestamp">15:54</div>
<div class="subject">Jenga!  Jenga!  Jenga!</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:07</div>
<div class="subject">Announcer voices during Tarot readings.</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:29</div>
<div class="subject">Tarot doesn&#8217;t need to be totally serious, but you should be aware of professional courtersy.</div>
<div class="timestamp">16:54</div>
<div class="subject">Why do people not show common courtersy during tarot readings?</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:00</div>
<div class="subject">The cards don&#8217;t bite?</div>
<div class="timestamp">18:05</div>
<div class="subject">Fortune Tellers and &#8220;For Entertainment Purposes Only&#8221; signs</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:09</div>
<div class="subject">Should confessionals have this same sign?</div>
<div class="timestamp">19:41</div>
<div class="subject">People using Tarot Readings as a replacement for confessionals.</div>
<div class="timestamp">20:38</div>
<div class="subject">Every deck is different!  So don&#8217;t assume you can assume someone else&#8217;s deck.</div>
<div class="timestamp">21:30</div>
<div class="subject">Card IDs, rather than pictures, are needed for some.</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:07</div>
<div class="subject">The symbology in color and artwork as it is interpreted by the reader.</div>
<div class="timestamp">22:54</div>
<div class="subject">The meanings of individual cards can shift reading to reading to highlight details of what the querant needs to be aware of.</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:22</div>
<div class="subject">Decks are well aware of what they&#8217;re doing in terms of swapping meanings.</div>
<div class="timestamp">23:34</div>
<div class="subject">Decks will adapt to individuals they read for.</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:36</div>
<div class="subject">Everyone does spreads differently</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:22</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t let preconceptions limit what you can do.</div>
<div class="timestamp">24:36</div>
<div class="subject">Is a deck alive and aware, or is it just ink on paper and the talent in the reader.</div>
<div class="timestamp">25:56</div>
<div class="subject">Using cards as a filter or to avoid directly being mean to someone when you have foresight.</div>
<div class="timestamp">26:48</div>
<div class="subject">Tarot central repository?</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:03</div>
<div class="subject">Waking up a deck</div>
<div class="timestamp">27:36</div>
<div class="subject">Everyone does spreads differently</div>
<div class="timestamp">28:08</div>
<div class="subject">One card spread is not better than any other.</div>
<div class="timestamp">29:24</div>
<div class="subject">Ford-Chevy Debate</div>
<div class="timestamp">30:20</div>
<div class="subject">Right vs. right for you vs. right for the situation</div>
<div class="timestamp">31:22</div>
<div class="subject">Caving into the cards&#8217; demands.</div>
<div class="timestamp">32:47</div>
<div class="subject">Feel welcome to ask the reader what they are doing.</div>
<div class="timestamp">33:32</div>
<div class="subject">Explicit details and generalities can arise for multiple reasons.</div>
<div class="timestamp">34:04</div>
<div class="subject">Tarot is for insight, not to make decisions for you</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:06</div>
<div class="subject">Nothing about a reading is guaranteed</div>
<div class="timestamp">35:50</div>
<div class="subject">Don&#8217;t ask the cards what to ask for!</div>
<div class="timestamp">36:31</div>
<div class="subject">The media-sensation just for a laugh decks.</div>
<div class="timestamp">37:01</div>
<div class="subject">Branden&#8217;s Gummy Bear Tarot Deck</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:21</div>
<div class="subject">A deck for Spanish Conquistadors!</div>
<div class="timestamp">38:42</div>
<div class="subject">Troth deck &#8211; Crowley&#8217;s Deck and how Miles cannot get one home.</div>
<div class="timestamp">39:20</div>
<div class="subject">Car accidents as divination?</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:20</div>
<div class="subject">What to do when someone needs to know something but they left the reading?</div>
<div class="timestamp">40:48</div>
<div class="subject">Physical backlash from Tarot cards.</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:01</div>
<div class="subject">Taking photos of a reading</div>
<div class="timestamp">41:50</div>
<div class="subject">Handling if someone wants a reading but a deck doesn&#8217;t want to give a reading to that person.</div>
<div class="timestamp">43:34</div>
<div class="subject">Hardest thing with giving a reading and getting a reading.</div>
<div class="timestamp">46:19</div>
<div class="subject">Miles, the stutterer, is the easiest for us to post-produce</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:19</div>
<div class="subject">Impressed or violated with accuracy</div>
<div class="timestamp">49:50</div>
<div class="subject">Does this card make sense?</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:18</div>
<div class="subject">Stay away from water people!</div>
<div class="timestamp">50:38</div>
<div class="subject">Go to the doctor!</div>
<div class="timestamp">51:27</div>
<div class="subject">Instant re-run readings if you aren&#8217;t listening</div>
<div class="timestamp">52:06</div>
<div class="subject">Yay 300 card readings.  THIS&#8230; IS&#8230; SPARTA!</div>
<div class="timestamp">52:28</div>
<div class="subject">A reading that references the reading itself</div>
<div class="timestamp">52:53</div>
<div class="subject">Everything you do can go wrong reading.</div>
<div class="timestamp">53:35</div>
<div class="subject">Not remembering readings</div>
<div class="timestamp">54:45</div>
<div class="subject">Memory static</div>
<div class="timestamp">55:05</div>
<div class="subject">Oh yeah, and BTW, you&#8217;re screwed!</div>
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		<itunes:subtitle>This week the crew gives some tips and tricks on Tarot Readings. Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Joe of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam Guest Hosts: Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>This week the crew gives some tips and tricks on Tarot Readings.




Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Joe of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam


Guest Hosts:
Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Miles author of Teaching Witchcraft: A Guide for Teachers and Students of the Old Religion, NRia of Anonymous Snooze of Portable Weirdness



01:22Why we need to provide a Tarot Disclaimer!
01:35So you're considering a Tarot Card Reading?
01:51Discouraging undesired situations/repetitions.
02:04Secrets!
02:27Don't bring your partner with you to a tarot reading if you're cheating on them!
03:46People that get a reading but do not want insight
04:33If you want something positive, go read fortune cookies.
04:3661-card reading reference.
04:43Some want readings just for validation
05:01The threat of an impending reading can help people sort things out in their lives.
05:25Not all readings are doom, gloom and painful.
05:39Card readings can be inaccurate, but generally don't work to accommodate your ego.
05:58When thinking of questions, remember the cards may not reply in any expected manner - may even answer a different question or refuse any response.
06:49Cards can reply to belligerance with an insult.
07:36Cards sometimes take queries in a completely different direction, sometimes more important/pertinent stuff.  But some people just horribly mis-interpret readings.
08:13Cards have a habit of telling you what you NEED to hear.
08:30Different decks behave differently
09:14Tarot readings to understand what piece of the puzzle you are missing.
09:59Amber's deck has the ability to be sarcastic.
10:15Don't expect a 2 card answer to a complex problem
10:31Proper conduct during a Tarot reading.
10:52Eliminate distractions.
11:23Don't interrupt or spy on someone else's reading.
12:20Readers requesting readings when they have a huge ego and an axe to grind.
12:52Moral support and your responsibility for your cheerleaders.
14:06Tarot readings are not like fortune cookie readings!
14:36Let people enjoy their reading regardless if they believe in it or not - don't be an ass.
14:57Beligerance and questioning are different things.
15:54Jenga!  Jenga!  Jenga!
16:07Announcer voices during Tarot readings.
16:29Tarot doesn't need to be totally serious, but you should be aware of professional courtersy.
16:54Why do people not show common courtersy during tarot readings?
18:00The cards don't bite?
18:05Fortune Tellers and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" signs
19:09Should confessionals have this same sign?
19:41People using Tarot Readings as a replacement for confessionals.
20:38Every deck is different!  So don't assume you can assume someone else's deck.
21:30Card IDs, rather than pictures, are needed for some.
22:07The symbology in color and artwork as it is interpreted by the reader.
22:54The meanings of individual cards can shift reading to reading to highlight details of what the querant needs to be aware of.
23:22Decks are well aware of what they're doing in terms of swapping meanings.
23:34Decks will adapt to individuals they read for.
27:36Everyone does spreads differently
24:22Don't let preconceptions limit what you can do.
24:36Is a deck alive and aware, or is it just ink on paper and the talent in the reader.
25:56Using cards as a filter or to avoid directly being mean to someone when you have foresight.
26:48Tarot central repository?
27:03Waking up a deck
27:36Everyone does spreads differently
28:08One card spread is not better than any other.
29:24Ford-Chevy Debate
30:20Right vs. right for you vs. right for the situation
31:22Caving into the cards' demands.
32:47Feel welcome to ask the reader what they are doing.
33:32Explicit details and generalities can arise for multiple reasons.
34:04Tarot is for insight, not to make decisions for you
35:06Nothing about a reading is guaranteed
35:50Don't ask the cards what to ask for!
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