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		<title>3 Questions about Jesus: Daniel So</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason Coker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week Daniel So answers our 3 Questions About Jesus: Who is Jesus the Christ? What has he done? And why does it matter? (Previous installments: Jason Coker&#124; Jesse Schroeder &#124; Cari Jenkins &#124; Jason Clark &#124; Ben Sternke &#124; JR Rozko &#124; Amy Rozko &#124; Steve Burnhope &#124; Jason Evans). _____________________________________________________________________ Jesus is the most remarkable person I&#8217;ve ever known. In him, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This week Daniel So answers our </em><a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank"><em>3 Questions About Jesus</em></a><em>: Who is Jesus the Christ? What has he done? And why does it matter? (Previous installments: <a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank">Jason Coker</a>| <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jesse-schroeder" target="_blank">Jesse Schroeder</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-cari-jenkins" target="_blank">Cari Jenkins</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jason-clark" target="_blank">Jason Clark</a></em> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-ben-sternke" target="_blank">Ben Sternke</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jr-rozko" target="_blank">JR Rozko</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-amy-rozko" target="_blank">Amy Rozko</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/culture/3-questions-about-jesus-steve-burnhope" target="_self">Steve Burnhope</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/culture/3-questions-about-jesus-jason-evans" target="_blank">Jason Evans</a>).</p>
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<p>Jesus is the most remarkable person I&#8217;ve ever known.</p>
<p><a href="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/thumb-globe-02-broken.jpg" rel="lightbox[2261]"><img class="size-full wp-image-2264 alignright" style="margin: 10px;" title="thumb-globe-02-broken" src="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/thumb-globe-02-broken.jpg" alt="" width="168" height="168" /></a>In him, everything that has gone wrong is being put back together, in all the most important relationships we know &#8212; with God, others, ourselves, and the world. For many years, because of my disconnected sense of identity, I sought escape. The longer I have followed Jesus, though, the more I have come to see that he offers something better than escape: in him is genuine hope.  That which is lost, broken, and dead is found, restored, and made alive in Jesus.</p>
<p>Before Jesus found me, I struggled with a sense of being &#8220;neither/nor&#8221; as an Asian American &#8212; neither fully accepted as &#8220;American&#8221; nor fitting in a &#8220;home&#8221; culture to which we never belonged. In, through, and because of Jesus, I am learning to see another way forward. &#8220;Both/and&#8221; people learn to navigate fluidly between worlds and cultures, with empathy for those at the margins. Jesus is not obliterating my ethnic identity; rather, he is restoring it and freeing me to embrace it for the sake of loving God and people more fully.</p>
<p>On one day recently, I sent my daughter off to her first day of school, prayed at a funeral service, and visited a family in the hospital who was celebrating the birth of their child.  Life, death, new beginnings &#8211; everything all at once.  Days like those remind me of why I love and follow Jesus: the world we long for, which requires the courage, compassion, and creativity he fills our lives with, is already here and is on its way.</p>
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<p><a href="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/SoFamily.jpg" rel="lightbox[2261]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2262" style="margin-top: 5px; margin-right: 10px;" title="SoFamily" src="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/SoFamily.jpg" alt="" width="120" height="120" /></a>Together, Daniel and his wife Jeya pastor <a href="http://sdunited.org/" target="_blank">United</a>, their church community in San Diego, where they seek to cultivate better expressions of God&#8217;s love for the world. Their daughter lights up their house with her beautiful singing and electrifying dance moves.  Daniel also serves on the board of directors for <a href="http://justiceventures.org/JVI/home/home.php" target="_blank">Justice Ventures International</a>, a nonprofit dedicated to strengthening ventures that promote justice around the world. As a freelance writer and graphic designer, Daniel explores the connections between faith, culture, and identity. For more, visit <a href="http://headsparks.com/" target="_blank">headsparks.com</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Yet another installment of our latest series is provided by Jason Evans, who tackles </em><a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank"><em>3 Questions About Jesus</em></a><em>: Who is Jesus the Christ? What has he done? And why does it matter? (Previous installments: <a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank">Jason Coker</a>| <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jesse-schroeder" target="_blank">Jesse Schroeder</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-cari-jenkins" target="_blank">Cari Jenkins</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jason-clark" target="_blank">Jason Clark</a></em> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-ben-sternke" target="_blank">Ben Sternke</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jr-rozko" target="_blank">JR Rozko</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-amy-rozko" target="_blank">Amy Rozko</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/culture/3-questions-about-jesus-steve-burnhope" target="_self">Steve Burnhope</a>).</p>
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<p>I don’t think you make up a story like Jesus’ and hope it convincing. Gods aren’t to be born in barns, to peasant girls and laid in feeding troughs on the edge of empire. You have to really believe this to be true to write it down for others. And I guess that is why I believe. It is so ridiculous, that it just might be true.</p>
<p>There’s no pretense. There’s nothing trying to convince me. Yet, I’m convinced.</p>
<p>I think Jesus was on to something. Jesus got it. He saw how the world was intended to work. He could see that in our broken, feeble attempts we-meaning humanity-had missed the point. He knew what it would take to set us straight. The way he lived his life, the things he said and did showed us a way of living which would draw us back into a way we were intended to. Yet, I think he knew that the death we let enter into our lives had to be removed. And we couldn’t do that on our own. So, he defeated death for us.</p>
<p>I think that is something only God could do.</p>
<p>I have found this to be so in my own life. I look at the Gospels’ account of how Jesus lived his life, and I see a way to live my own. Yet, I quickly find that I am quite incapable of living as I want to. Jesus said he was “the way, the truth and the life.” And as mystical and ill-defined as that may seem I find it to be true. When I conclude that I cannot do it on my own, and I submit to this God-made-flesh I find life.</p>
<p>Some would call this, a crutch. I prefer, a stretcher.</p>
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<p><a href="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/jasonevans.jpg" rel="lightbox[2256]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2257" style="margin-top: 5px; margin-right: 10px;" title="jasonevans" src="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/jasonevans.jpg" alt="" width="105" height="109" /></a>Jason is currently a student at Fuller Theological Seminary and has a certificate in Urban Ministry from Hesston College. Before joining our team, Jason was a church planter and church planting consultant. These efforts have been documented in several books. He and his wife, Brooke, have three children, Paige, Matt and Sam. They live in the South Park neighborhood.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This week my friend Steve Burnhope answers our </em><a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank"><em>3 Questions About Jesus</em></a><em>: Who is Jesus the Christ? What has he done? And why does it matter? (Previous installments: <a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank">Jason Coker</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jesse-schroeder" target="_blank">Jesse Schroeder</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-cari-jenkins" target="_blank">Cari Jenkins</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jason-clark" target="_blank">Jason Clark</a></em> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-ben-sternke" target="_blank">Ben Sternke</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jr-rozko" target="_blank">JR Rozko</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-amy-rozko" target="_blank">Amy Rozko</a>).</p>
<p>__________________________________________________________</p>
<p><a href="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/creation.jpg" rel="lightbox[2249]"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-2252" style="margin: 10px;" title="creation" src="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/creation.jpg" alt="" width="252" height="203" /></a>To me, the reality of a creator God is the most likely explanation of the created order; and to be in relationship with that God, humanity’s most likely calling.</p>
<p>Christianity understands a perfect God wanting a perfect creation to love and be loved by.  But for any love to be genuine, it must be freely offered.  Love compelled, even by God, is abuse.</p>
<p>Creation had to include choice, the option of living in a different story.</p>
<p>Christianity sees humanity choosing badly, collectively and individually, and finding ourselves living in the consequences of our bad choices – dominated and polluted by selfishness, independence and alienation.</p>
<p>Screwed up relationships with God, each other and our world.</p>
<p>A humanity once somehow made in the ‘image’ of God, now like a badly-faded portrait, stained and ripped.</p>
<p>Surely, though, a perfect creator God would know that this possibility would arise?  Yes – from the very beginning.  The potential, the risk, could not be programmed out without compromising perfection.</p>
<p>Surely, then, he must accept some responsibility for what happened?</p>
<p>Actually, not just some.  The Christian explanation says he intended all along to take the full responsibility; to pay the entire price of restoration.  To give us back a choice.</p>
<p>In Jesus, God became human and entered his own created order.  Sharing in the suffering caused by our choices, submitting himself to humanity’s abuse of humanity, fully and genuinely participating in the best of what it means to be human in relationship with God and in the worst of what it means to be human in a damaged world.</p>
<p>God’s solution still requires us to choose.  There is still no compulsion.  This time, though, we know better what our God is like.  Who and what we’re choosing for.</p>
<p>And what he, in Jesus, has done to make it possible.</p>
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		<title>A reader critiques my portrayal of race and violence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Coker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We had a bit of a feisty discussion here recently around the subject of gender roles and relationships on my post Men are in charge because the Bible says so. Not long after, I received a challenging email from Jana (who agreed to let me share our correspondence): Sorry to leave this on a contact [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/6a00d8341c5e0053ef012876c868e9970c-800wi.jpg" rel="lightbox[2220]"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-2245" style="margin: 10px;" title="6a00d8341c5e0053ef012876c868e9970c-800wi" src="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/6a00d8341c5e0053ef012876c868e9970c-800wi.jpg" alt="" width="210" height="141" /></a>We had a bit of a feisty discussion here recently around the subject of gender roles and relationships on my post <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/men-are-in-charge-because-the-bible-says-so" target="_blank">Men are in charge because the Bible says so</a>. Not long after, I received a challenging email from Jana (who agreed to let me share our correspondence):</p>
<blockquote><p>Sorry to leave this on a contact form not a comment. I didn&#8217;t want to start a nasty comment fight so I thought this would be best. I saw [the] article a while back and the picture disturbed me. I ignored it, as usual dismissing it, excusing it. I&#8217;m just being upity again!</p>
<p>But then I stumbled across it again and I just had to ask. What on earth made you pick a picture of domestic violence taken from rural Africa? Sorry to be a pain but I just can&#8217;t fathom why you would have chosen this particular picture and I just had to ask. Sorry!</p>
<p>Jana</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s my reply:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi Jana,</p>
<p>Thanks for being willing to ask. I chose the picture because it perfectly captures the spirit of male power inherent in patriarchy. When men exert power in the world it is typically through verbal, physical, or political threats, coercion, or violence. I find that highly disturbing, and I needed a disturbing picture to capture the essence of patriarchy.</p>
<p>So, why does it disturb you? Do you think it&#8217;s an inappropriate picture for that post?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Jason</p></blockquote>
<p>Jana&#8217;s response made me realize I&#8217;d missed the point:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi Jason,</p>
<p>Yeah you are right the image definitely captures the image which you talk about in the piece. And I am in total agreement with your points. What disturbed me was why did you pick this one out of an African rural context? How many of your readers can identify with this scene? I found these with a quick search. Seem to convey the same.</p>
<p><a href="http://runninginheels.co.uk/articles/domestic-violence/">http://runninginheels.co.uk/articles/domestic-violence/</a><br />
<a href="http://runninginheels.co.uk/articles/domestic-violence/"></a><a href="http://objectifythis.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/dolce-and-gabbana-rape-ad.jpg" rel="lightbox[2220]">http://objectifythis.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/dolce-and-gabbana-rape-ad.jpg</a><br />
<a href="http://www.topnews.in/files/Sexual-violence-women.jpg" rel="lightbox[2220]">http://www.topnews.in/files/Sexual-violence-women.jpg</a></p>
<p>Now I am not trying to accuse you of racism or anything like. But by using the image you did, all you did was reinforce the idea that violence against women is something which those barbarians do. Because your readers won&#8217;t identify with that African villager at all. Why use a picture of an African man when there are plenty of pictures of men from your own culture doing the same?</p>
<p>I hate racifying things. But sometimes I feel a bit of a duty to say something which I know a lot of us BAME&#8217;s are thinking! &#8220;not again&#8221; &#8220;not another shot of a dark skinned man doing something barbaric&#8221;. Probably should have just left you alone but felt compelled to say something.</p>
<p>Thanks for listening!<br />
Jana</p></blockquote>
<p>Frankly, I hadn&#8217;t considered any of that.</p>
<blockquote><p>That&#8217;s a fair critique Jana. To be perfectly honest I chose that particular picture 1) because it was dramatic, and 2) because you can&#8217;t really make out anyone&#8217;s face &#8211; and I&#8217;m somewhat cautious about showing people&#8217;s faces on my blog if I don&#8217;t know them, particularly when they&#8217;re portrayed negatively. BUT, I never thought about the racial or cultural messaging. I should have &#8211; which is not quite the same thing as saying I shouldn&#8217;t have used the picture, but it&#8217;s very possible that upon reflection I wouldn&#8217;t have used it, if for no other reason than to avoid perpetuating negative stereotypes about blacks and black Africans. There&#8217;s an interesting, complicated, and very important discussion in there somewhere. Either way, I do appreciate you bringing it to my attention.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Jason</p></blockquote>
<p>And, our last email:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi Jason,</p>
<p>Yes I never thought that you would have chosen the picture with the express purpose of putting across that message. And I realise that it&#8217;s hard to find appropriate images especially when you are trying to meet so many criteria (not sexist, not racist, hides faces, communicates the point etc.). The last thing I would want is to suggest anything else. Race and gender issues are so interwoven and overlapping so it all very complicated. But I think you are right, there is an important (though complicated) discussion in there and it is just waiting to be had.</p>
<p>I heard something is going on over on your side of the Atlantic with regards to race in the church, that things are changing and shifting? In any case the race issue still exists (Obama or no), and we have to have a global discussion for a global church.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Jana</p></blockquote>
<p>Friday Later I&#8217;d like to complicate this topic with some thoughts about race, violence and the Kingdom. But until then, I&#8217;d be interested in your thoughts &#8211; <em>with the caveat that any comments on this sensitive topic need to be appropriate. Otherwise, they will be edited or deleted. </em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On facebook this morning I took a line I&#8217;d crafted related to recent thinking on gender issues and reworked it. Here&#8217;s the original line, taken from a paper I wrote Monday about much of the Church&#8217;s teaching on gender and sexuality: Men are domineering leaders who, through sheer expression of their potency, conquer hostility in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/etching.jpg" rel="lightbox[2235]"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-2236" style="margin: 10px;" title="etching" src="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/etching.jpg" alt="" width="270" height="208" /></a>On facebook this morning I took a line I&#8217;d crafted related to recent thinking on gender issues <a href="http://www.facebook.com/jasonacoker?v=wall&amp;story_fbid=137272986314650&amp;ref=notif&amp;notif_t=feed_comment" target="_blank">and reworked it</a>. Here&#8217;s the original line, taken from a paper I wrote Monday about much of the Church&#8217;s teaching on gender and sexuality:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-weight: normal;">Men are domineering leaders who, through sheer expression of their potency, conquer hostility in the marketplace and reluctance in the bedroom, bringing forth a dual harvest of subservient wealth and children as their enduring legacy.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t believe this is what it means to be an authentic man, but, unfortunately, many Christian men and women do (including many pastors). I think their belief betrays a fundamental error about the nature of Christian power in general and the nature of Christ&#8217;s power in particular.</p>
<p>So, today, while thinking of the recent idiocy surrounding the so-called Ground Zero Mosque (which, is an imaginary figment of right-wing propaganda), I took that line and reworked it:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-weight: normal;">Christians are domineering leaders who, through sheer expression of their potency, conquer hostility in the world and reluctance in the heart, bringing forth a dual harvest of subservient nations and converts as their enduring legacy.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Obviously, I don&#8217;t believe this is true either, but I think it is what many Christians believe &#8211; that the consequence of Christ&#8217;s victory on the cross is that Christians should come to rule in this present age, whether that be through governmental power (i.e. the Religious Right), cultural power (entertainment media), commercial power (business success and dominance), or familial power (husband/wife, parent/child). For me, the very nature of the gospel, and especially Christ himself, speak directly to these issues in a remarkably clear way.</p>
<p>Then in the comments, <a href="http://jonathanbrink.com/" target="_blank">Jonathan Brink</a> asked me a provocative question:</p>
<blockquote><p>Jason, how would you say that to my 8 year old son?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm. Good question. I took Jonathan&#8217;s prompt and asked my own 9 year-old daughter, Alannah:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Alannah, I have a question for you. I have a friend who says that being a Christian means we should be the most powerful people in the world. What do you think?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What? Who&#8217;s this friend?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, just someone I know on the internet.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Um, No.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No? Why not?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, first of all, I know some people say that we should make everyone Christians, but I don&#8217;t think so. I think if you&#8217;re Jewish or whatever, that&#8217;s not wrong. It&#8217;s not wrong to be Jewish. And, if <em>we</em> had all the power that would<em> ruin everything</em>! I mean, the only one who should have all the power is God. That way we would all have a leader.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow. She covers alot of ground in that answer. Freedom, power, evangelism, and a sense of God that transcends religion. You can tell Alannah had thought about this before my question. We continued our conversation. I wanted to share with her my own thoughts about how Jesus exercised power in a surprising and truly revolutionary way, and how his life informs and empowers his followers&#8217; recapitulation of that same pattern.</p>
<p><strong>But what do you think?</strong> How should Christians wield power? Can they? What ought to be the power relationship between ourselves and non-Christians? Or between us and other family members? Between men and women, parents and children? Or between Christians and the State?</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Amy Rozko is next to answer our </em><a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank"><em>3 Questions About Jesus</em></a><em>: Who is Jesus the Christ? What has he done? And why does it matter? (Previous installments: <a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank">Jason Coker</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jesse-schroeder" target="_blank">Jesse Schroeder</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-cari-jenkins" target="_blank">Cari Jenkins</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jason-clark" target="_blank">Jason Clark</a></em> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-ben-sternke" target="_blank">Ben Sternke</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jr-rozko" target="_blank">JR Rozko</a>).</p>
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<p><a href="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/jesus-324x205.jpg" rel="lightbox[2224]"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-2226" style="margin: 10px;" title="jesus-324x205" src="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/jesus-324x205.jpg" alt="" width="324" height="205" /></a>You couldn’t have asked any more important questions.  Ever since I met Jesus I’ve made it my goal to get to know him better and try to be better understand him. I’ve known him over 20 years now, and I have to admit that I still don’t have him completely figured out.  Is that so surprising, though?</p>
<p>It would be easy for me to get existential and abstract when talking about Jesus, so let me first talk more concretely about what I know about Jesus.  It is undisputed among legitimate historians that a man named Jesus of Nazareth walked the earth approximately 2000 years ago in an area of the world now known as the nation-state of Israel.  If you can believe in the historical reality of Julius Caesar or Cleopatra then you can believe that Jesus really lived and walked on this earth.  His life was of such significance that we restarted our clocks, so to speak, to mark time before and after his life here on earth.</p>
<p>Jesus was the only person born fully-man yet fully-God.  I can’t fully explain what this means but let’s just say that he was absolutely unique.  He taught about God and the meaning of life with authority and in a way people could understand.  He backed up his teaching with miraculous signs that backed up his claims to be God (the most astounding being that after having been killed for crimes he did not commit he rose to life again).  Jesus claimed to be God and Jesus spoke with the power, authority and love of God.  So either he is, in fact, God in the flesh, or else he was crazy or else he was a scam artist.  The people who knew him best were willing to bet their lives on the fact that he was God and, over the past 2000 years, millions of others (including myself!) have come to the same conclusion about Jesus.</p>
<p>Sorry for the monologue.  Did I answer all of your questions?  I’m sure I didn’t.  I actually hope you have even more questions.  I’d love to keep exploring who Jesus is with you.</p>
<p>PS – I’d encourage you to begin reading the Gospel of John before we talk again if you’re curious– some great stuff about Jesus life and teachings written by one of Jesus’ very best friends.</p>
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<p><a href="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/amyrozko.jpg" rel="lightbox[2224]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2233" style="margin-top: 5px; margin-right: 10px;" title="amyrozko" src="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/amyrozko.jpg" alt="" width="100" height="109" /></a>Amy and her husband of just over a year, JR, live in Elgin, IL (Chicagoland area) where she also works for <a href="http://www.iteams.org/" target="_blank">International Teams US</a> as the Director of Mobilization. They are an active part of <a href="http://www.lifeonthevine.org/" target="_blank">Life on the Vine</a> and really excited to be participating in the <a href="http://www.lausanne.org/cape-town-2010" target="_blank">Third Lausanne Congress on World Evangelization</a> this coming October in Cape Town, South Africa.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>JR Rozko approached our </em><a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank"><em>3 Questions About Jesus</em></a><em> as though it were an email from a  friend, asking: Who is Jesus the Christ? What has he done? And why does it matter? (Previous installments: <a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank">Jason Coker</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jesse-schroeder" target="_blank">Jesse Schroeder</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-cari-jenkins" target="_blank">Cari Jenkins</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jason-clark" target="_blank">Jason Clark</a></em> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-ben-sternke" target="_blank">Ben Sternke</a>)<br />
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<p>What matters most to you?  No matter how you answer that question, I’d venture to guess that it relates to what it means to live a life of significance.  I mean, regardless of whether we think that some higher being exists or not, the mere fact that we exist compels us to wonder what life is all about &#8211; it’s really the most fundamental of life’s questions right?</p>
<p>The basic Christian answer to this question regarding the purpose of life is that we have been created by a God who made the world and everything in it and desires to be in relationship with us.  As I’m sure you’d agree, our world is far from perfect.  I wonder what you might name as its fundamental problems and where you think they came from?  Christians would say that all the pain and suffering in the world stems from the fact that this relationship we were created to have with God has been broken by our prideful attempts to try and be God as opposed to be in relationship with God.</p>
<p>This is where Jesus comes into the picture.  Jesus is both our chief example of what it means to live in relationship with God as well as the one who has restored our ability to even have that relationship.  Jesus fed the hungry, restored sight to the blind, and made crippled people walk.  He did all this to exhibit God’s desire to make all things new.  The pinnacle of this mission came by way of his death and resurrection.  He was killed because he suggested that God was ultimately in charge of the course of history and not us.  A few days after the ruling powers hung him on a cross, God triumphantly raised him from the dead.</p>
<p>I realize this might be difficult to believe.  It is &#8211; and it should be.  I wonder if you can pinpoint any beliefs you hold that might be difficult for someone else to believe?  I bet you can.  That’s because believing is always a matter of experience and relationship.  One never really comes to believe in God, the resurrection, or the ongoing work of God in the world until they experience it in the context of a true relationship.</p>
<p>Looking forward to more conversations.<br />
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<p><a href="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/JRpic.jpg" rel="lightbox[2214]"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2215" style="margin-right: 10px;" title="JRpic" src="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/JRpic.jpg" alt="" width="80" height="98" /></a>JR and his wife Amy live in Elgin, outside of Chicago.  JR works for <a href="http://www.seminary.edu/" target="_blank">Northern Seminary</a> and Amy works for <a href="http://iteams.org/index2.shtml" target="_blank">International Teams</a>.  They are part of<a href="http://www.lifeonthevine.org/" target="_blank"> Life on the Vine</a>, a missional community in the NW suburbs of Chicago.  JR blogs at <a href="http://www.lifeasmission.com/blog/" target="_blank">lifeasmission.com</a>.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This week Ben Sternke responds to our </em><a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank"><em>3 Questions About Jesus</em></a><em>: Who is Jesus the Christ? What has he done? And why does it matter? (Previous installments: <a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank">Jason Coker</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jesse-schroeder" target="_blank">Jesse Schroeder</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-cari-jenkins" target="_blank">Cari Jenkins</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jason-clark" target="_blank">Jason Clark</a>)</em></p>
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<p>Who is Jesus Christ? Wow, where to start. Jesus is a lot of things. First, I should say he was a man who caused quite a stir around 2,000 years ago by claiming that the God who created the entire cosmos was working through his life to save the world from itself, to make everything right.</p>
<p>Which sounds incredibly cliché, doesn’t it? It’s easy to find nutcases like that today. The thing about Jesus, though, was that he backed up his claims by making things right with unusual power and effectiveness: delivering people from sickness and psychological oppression, bringing freedom from guilt and shame, challenging injustice, and teaching people how to live well.</p>
<p>Ultimately this put him on a collision course with the religious and political authorities of his day, because they had stock in keeping people fearful and needy. But instead of fighting them, Jesus allowed them to torture and kill him. Even those closest to him didn’t understand this. Why not fight to stay alive? They thought it was over after that.</p>
<p>Hang with me, because here’s where the story gets crazy. He didn’t stay dead. A few days later he was alive again, in a totally new way, like he’d gone <em>through</em> death and out the other side. He had actually conquered death by his own death and through his resurrection opened the door for everyone to enter into a truly blessed life in God’s family.</p>
<p>We enter into that life by becoming an apprentice of Jesus. It might sound kooky, but you can actually <em>know</em> Jesus today. You can really be with him and he will teach you how to live a blessed life in God’s family, just like him.</p>
<p>Pretty unlikely story, huh? Yet I find myself living in it every day.</p>
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		<title>3 Questions About Jesus: Jason Clark</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week Jason Clark responds to our 3 Questions About Jesus: Who is Jesus the Christ? What has he done? And why does it matter? (Previous installments: Jason Coker &#124; Jesse Schroeder &#124; Cari Jenkins) _______________________________________________________________ We all try to make sense life, what the meaning of life is, asking what is my purpose here, what is a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This week Jason Clark responds to our </em><a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank"><em>3 Questions About Jesus</em></a><em>: Who is Jesus the Christ? What has he done? And why does it matter? (Previous installments: <a href="http://pastoralia.org/theology/3-simple-questions-about-jesus" target="_blank">Jason Coker</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-jesse-schroeder" target="_blank">Jesse Schroeder</a> | <a href="http://pastoralia.org/church/3-questions-about-jesus-cari-jenkins" target="_blank">Cari Jenkins</a>)</em><br />
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<p><a href="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/6a00e54ee984f1883400e54fb4834f8834-800wi1.jpg" rel="lightbox[2196]"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-2200" style="margin: 10px;" title="6a00e54ee984f1883400e54fb4834f8834-800wi" src="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/6a00e54ee984f1883400e54fb4834f8834-800wi1.jpg" alt="" width="288" height="216" /></a>We all try to make sense life, what the meaning of life is, asking what is my purpose here, what is a good life, at least for myself?  And we all seem to get one shot at this life, one chance to take all that we are and invest it into our best answers to those questions.  At this time in history, and even when I was younger (I know it was some time ago), life seems about competition, survival of the fittest, and doing to others before others do it to you. Or as my gentle white haired grandma used to say, &#8216;take care of yourself grandson, because in this life I&#8217;ve learned no-one else will&#8217;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that we don&#8217;t want life to be about more than this, it&#8217;s just that in our fast paced consumer world, being successful, getting ahead, looking out for yourself, is what our friends and family and so often we default to.  And even if you wanted to, you can&#8217;t jam the system, there is no way to opt out of the juggernaut for getting ahead in life. It&#8217;s the way things are, so either drop out, or get stuck in.</p>
<p>And the effort and investment to get ahead, is kept alive and made worth while by the prize of what we think life is about, maybe a great career, great family, holidays, living somewhere cool, and retiring early.  Where we live, what job we do and what relationships we have reveal the answers to what we really think the meaning and purpose of life is about, they are the real investments we are making, daily with all we are.  It&#8217;s our life, we are kings of our kingdom with our decision and choices, as we decide who and what we are, and what we bring into our lives, as we make a life.</p>
<p>Jesus was someone who understood what life was about, and decided to invest his life very differently. Instead of getting ahead, he said he had come to serve others, that his investment was into a different reality and economy, which he called &#8216;The Kingdom of God&#8217;. That life, this life was about investing all we have, time, energy and money, our heart, soul, body and mind in a different reality. He said that jobs, where we live and relationships are very important, we&#8217;ve got that part right, but how we invest ourselves for those aspects of life is very different.</p>
<p>He even told us not to worry about all these things, that the reason we worry is because we fear losing things we shouldn&#8217;t be putting our heart and soul into in the first place.  And he did more than talk about this new reality, he lived it.  Every day, every breath, every step, he invested his life in helping others see that life was about knowing God, and entering into the plans God has for us. Using our gifts, and skills, passions and interest to invest in God&#8217;s economy.  And he said that if we do that, God will give the best life we could ever have.  And he said that if we practice this life investment, our lives will continue, after death into eternity.  Jesus brought a warning too, reminding us to take care.  That where we invest our lives determines who we become now and forever, so choose wisely.</p>
<p>Jesus invitation seems so impossible, it was as impossible 2,000 years ago as much as it is now.  In fact people intent on investing in a way of life much like ours today, eventually put him on a cross and killed him. And as they looked at him dying with no friends, no job, no career, no success, and no status they asked him, &#8216;where is your God and this way of life now&#8217;?</p>
<p>I was 17 the first time someone explained to me who Jesu was and is, and why it mattered, and maybe if I tell you what that friend told me, it will sum up what I&#8217;m trying to say here?  My friend said that, investing my life in Jesus, taking all that I am and giving it to Him, might not make my life easier, in fact in lots of ways it would be much harder.  But he promised me that, I would have something to live for and something to die for, that there wouldn&#8217;t be a day when I wouldn&#8217;t know meaning, adventure and purpose.</p>
<p>I chose to make that investment, and 24 years later, I have experienced the most amazing life, with all of that and more.  The depth and richness of discovering who I am, the most amazing experience of life with others, as I daily try to invest all I have in Him, has been stunning.  I&#8217;d love to tell you more about that sometime. Choosing Jesus was the best investment I ever made with my life.  Where are you investing yours?</p>
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<p><strong><a href="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/jclark.gif" rel="lightbox[2196]"><img class="size-full wp-image-2198 alignleft" style="margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;" title="jclark" src="http://pastoralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/jclark.gif" alt="" width="100" height="100" /></a>Jason Clark </strong>(<a href="http://deepchurch.org.uk/" target="_blank">www.deepchurch.org.uk</a>) is British, recently turned 40, and lives on the SW edge of London, UK. He has three teenage kids, and is celebrating 20 years of marriage to Bev later this year. He is midway through a PhD in theology at Kings College London, holds a D.Min from George Fox Seminary, and is the senior pastor of a Vineyard church that he started with his Bev 13 years ago, having been involved in Vineyard churches for 23 years in total.</p>
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		<title>Coincidence or God? Lost In-Laws</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is my last coincidence story for now. The car keys made me scratch my head and the drunk uncle incident made me wonder about God&#8217;s involvement in coincidences, but this encounter actually helped Jenell and I make a major life decision. Bear with me, this one requires a little back story. ____________________________________________________________ In December [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my last coincidence story for now. The <a href="http://pastoralia.org/stories/coincidence-or-god-car-keys" target="_blank">car keys</a> made me scratch my head and <a href="http://pastoralia.org/stories/coincidence-or-god-drunk-uncle" target="_blank">the drunk uncle</a> incident made me wonder about God&#8217;s involvement in coincidences, but this encounter actually helped Jenell and I make a major life decision. Bear with me, this one requires a little back story.</p>
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<p>In December of 2007 Jenell and the kids and I had flown out from Columbus, Ohio to visit my parents in San Diego. One night they told us to go out and have fun, just the two of us, so we decided to drive up PCH and find a restaurant. We weren&#8217;t very familiar with the area, so we just headed north.</p>
<p>We soon found ourselves passing through Carlsbad village, a collection of beachside shops and restaurants, and Jenell said, &#8220;Oh, I think this is where my brother&#8217;s shop was!&#8221;</p>
<p>Over ten years before Jenell and I were living in Utah when she and her half-brother, Adrian, first made contact. They always knew of each other, but never met. Somehow Adrian&#8217;s wife tracked down Jenell and reached out, calling her one day. He was in his early twenties, newly married, and curious about the sister he&#8217;d never known. They formed a bit of a relationship over the phone and soon we were inviting them to come to Utah for a visit.</p>
<p>They spent a weekend with us. It was a amazing to see this person who in so many ways resembled Jenell &#8211; in appearance, mannerisms, and even sense of humor. More so for Jenell, who had been raised an only child. They connected instantly.</p>
<p>Adrian talked about the retail business he&#8217;d just started back in California, and we talked about our dreams for ministry. We talked about kids, about marriage, and, of course, about God. Adrian was an atheist and his wife Stephanie was dabbling in other kinds of spirituality, so they were a little unsettled to learn that we were in Christian ministry. It wasn&#8217;t long before we were chatting about religion and God, but the discussion remained friendly &#8211; even if it grew serious at times.</p>
<p>When the weekend ended we said our goodbyes and sent them back to California. Adrian and Jenell traded phone calls for the next year or so, but we both moved and changed numbers soon afterward and eventually lost contact. Jenell was always grateful for that visit, but sad about losing the relationship too.</p>
<p>All of these memories came flooding back ten years later as we drove through Carlsbad Village that night. We wondered aloud about Adrian and Stephanie: Did they still live in the area? Was Adrian&#8217;s business here? We talked about how nice it would be to reconnect.</p>
<p>We kept driving up PCH, looking for a decent restaurant, all the way to Camp Pendleton at the end of Oceanside. Nothing looked good, so we turned around and headed back to Carlsbad where we&#8217;d seen a Mexican food place that seemed promising. We parked, left our names at the crowded adobe-style restaurant, and were told it would be about 30 minutes.</p>
<p>So, we walked. And prayed.</p>
<p>We were in the throes of a big decision, pretty sure God was leading us to plant a church&#8230;but where? How? Our trip to San Diego was, in part, an excursion to see if God might be calling us back there. Was this the place? How would we know?</p>
<p>We walked around the Village, talking through it all and praying out loud, &#8220;God, show us what your will is? If this is where you want us, make it clear.&#8221; That&#8217;s when I saw it. Across the street.</p>
<p>A Starbucks.</p>
<p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s cross the street,&#8221; I said earnestly. &#8220;I think God is leading us over there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jenell snickered.</p>
<p>As we made our way to the Starbucks we kept praying, &#8220;Show us Lord. Show us something.&#8221; We were so engrossed in our talking and praying we nearly ran into a small group of people walking the opposite direction. We managed to thread past each other without incident, until one of them turned back suddenly and said, &#8220;Jenell?&#8221;</p>
<p>We both turned and looked at the woman who&#8217;d called Jenell&#8217;s name. I didn&#8217;t recognize her. And I could tell by the look on Jenell&#8217;s face that she didn&#8217;t either. Slightly amused, I waited to see how she would handle it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Uhhh&#8221; Jenell mused, trying desperately to make the connection. Finally, she gave up, &#8220;do I <em>know</em> you?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m your sister-in-law!&#8221; The woman said.</p>
<p>Now <em>I</em> was confused. Sister-in-law? Was this woman crazy? My brother and his wife lived in Stockton, and she&#8217;s not&#8230;then it clicked. She <em>did</em> look familiar. I glanced to her left, and there, eyes wide and mouth agape, stood Jenell&#8217;s brother Adrian. They were older, but it was definitely them.</p>
<p>Everyone freaked a little &#8211; except the couple with Adrian and Stephanie who stood off to the side looking every bit as awkward as they felt. We invited them all to dinner with us, but the other couple had to get back home. Adrian and Stephanie joined us.</p>
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<p>At dinner, Jenell said, &#8220;Wow, I can&#8217;t believe you guys still live in the area after all these years!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, we don&#8217;t,&#8221; said Stephanie.</p>
<p>&#8220;We live about an hour away, in Temecula,&#8221; said Adrian.</p>
<p>&#8220;We haven&#8217;t been here for <em>years</em>,&#8221; added Stephanie. &#8220;We hardly get out these days with the kids. I don&#8217;t even know why we came here tonight. We never really come back this way anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t you have a business here?&#8221; Asked Jenell.</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh no,&#8221; laughed Adrian. &#8220;That didn&#8217;t last long.&#8221; He switched subjects quickly; something else was on his mind. &#8220;I have to tell you guys, that weekend in Utah changed our lives.&#8221;</p>
<p>We blinked. &#8220;What do you mean?&#8221; Jenell asked.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, we became Christians because of you.&#8221;</p>
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<p>We just stared, unbelieving.</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, we&#8217;re like <em>totally</em> Christians&#8221; Stephanie emphasized. &#8220;Adrian even thought he wanted to be a pastor for a while.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s true&#8221; he said, chuckling a little. &#8220;I even went to bible college for a while.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But, you were an atheist,&#8221; I said. &#8220;How did that happen?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It was you guys,&#8221; he continued. &#8220;We just couldn&#8217;t get over how different you were. You didn&#8217;t judge us or pressure us, but you had this passion for God and life that we wanted for ourselves. It didn&#8217;t happen right away. We came back and time passed, but sooner or later we started looking for a church where we could find that same thing. Eventually we became Christians.&#8221;</p>
<p>We talked for long time, catching up on each others families &#8211; nieces and nephews that had never met, jobs and careers, causes and passions. We talked of the joys of discovering God and fellowship, and the disappointments that come along with church too.</p>
<p>It was a real gift to us, in more ways than one. It turns out they&#8217;re amazing people who are doing amazing things. And we get to hang out now (see the pics above from Father&#8217;s Day this year). Not only was it a gift to hear &#8211; all those years later &#8211; that we&#8217;d made some kind of difference in their lives, <em>but we took it to be a genuine sign that God was confirming our sense of being led back to California</em>, and while we didn&#8217;t base our decision solely on that encounter (not even close), the truth is, it <em>was</em> a factor.</p>
<p>We asked God to <em>show</em> us something, and He <em>gave</em> us something instead; more than we could ever have imagined.</p>
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<p>Was it God or coincidence? How can we know the difference?</p>
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