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		<title type="text">Look out astronomers - black hole is a racist term</title>
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		<published>2008-07-22T01:43:39Z</published>		<updated>2008-07-22T01:44:36Z</updated>
				<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick post before I head off to Newport, over in Texas <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,380143,00.html">it seems the term black hole is now a racist remark</a>, well to some people at least.</p>

<p>Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield (white) seems to of got himself in trouble for saying that the county's collections office behaves like an area of space with an escape velocity greater than 300,000 kilometres per second.</p>

<blockquote><p>"It sounds like Central Collections has become a black hole"</p></blockquote>

<p>Anybody with more than six brain cells knows what he means.  Documents, records etc end up in Central Collections, and they disappear.</p>

<p>However some people with fewer than six brain cells don't know the astronomical phenomenon, nor how the term black hole is used in everyday conversation.</p>

<p>Commissioner John Wiley Price (black) shouted out in the meeting "excuse me" and said the language was "unacceptable", saying that the collection's office was a "white hole".</p>

<p>Obviously, not knowing what a black hole is means this guy doesn't have much chance of knowing what a white hole is.  Using the term white hole wouldn't describe the situation at all Mr Price.  Instead of losing documents, the office would be creating documents and spewing them everywhere in a big mess.</p>

<p>But hell.  Why bother making any sense, or describing something when pretty much anything anybody says could be interpreted by the PC-brigade as being offensive, racist or whatever?  You won't win anybody to your side by irritating them with such petty nonsense, if there's a need for a change in language it will happen slowly over time.</p>

<p>Not content to keep his ignorance to himself, Judge Thomas Jones (black) also waded into this demanding that Mayfield apologise for the "racially insensitive analogy".</p>

<p>Mayfield has refused to apologise.  Good, there's far too much stupidity on the march these days, what with religious fundamentalism, and "alternative" (read: unproven) medicine to retreat on things like this.</p>

<p>"I prefer black furniture" isn't racist, "there's a black hole in Cygnus" isn't racist, "that star over there is a red giant", or "that one over there is a brown dwarf", isn't racist.  "We should paint fire hydrants white" isn't racist, "that office is a black or white hole" isn't racist.</p>

<p>To borrow something from Gandhi: "A general belief seems to prevail in the colony that the Indians are little better, if at all, than the savages or natives of Africa. Even the children are taught to believe in that manner, with the result that the Indian is being dragged down to the position of a raw Kaffir." (Kaffir meaning people of southern Africa).  That is a racist remark.</p>

<p>Can we keep things in perspective please.</p>]]></content>
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		<title type="text">Stop performing to the Daily Hate's (not a typo) readership</title>
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		<published>2008-06-27T14:37:19Z</published>		<updated>2008-06-27T14:37:19Z</updated>
				<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Enough playing to the Daily Mail's readership and their imaginary "middle England". If I hear another politician saying "hard working families who play by the rules" I am going to get annoyed.</p>

<p>Most of my work colleagues and myself aren't married nor have children.  I guess that means we're all stuffed.  Unemployed? Heck they don't work hard you must be stuffed. Pensioners, they may of worked hard all your life, but now you don't, I guess they're stuffed too.</p>

<p>What's wrong with saying working class?  Remember them Gordon?  The people who have to work for a living.</p>

<p>I got the NEC election ballot through my door today, with it a message from Gordon.  <a href="http://grimmerupnorth.blogspot.com/2008/06/message-from-gordon.html">Susan</a> rightly dissects the language used in it.</p>

<blockquote><p>Fairness means, yes, we will address poverty. But fairness also means we are always on the side of aspiration and ambition. (Read: the rich).</p></blockquote>

<blockquote><p>Over the coming months we are rolling out our Australian-style points-based system for immigration to make sure that only those who can contribute to Britain can come in. (In other words, if you are an asylum-seeker, poor, defenseless, financially vulnerable, forget it).</p></blockquote>]]></content>
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		<title type="text">When is the Parliamentary Labour Party going to act?</title>
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		<published>2008-06-27T14:21:07Z</published>		<updated>2008-06-27T14:21:07Z</updated>
				<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Good question <a href="http://grimmerupnorth.blogspot.com/2008/06/losing-our-religionas-well-as-our.html">Grimmer</a>, just when are the Parliamentary Labour Party going to act to stop the relentless march of the Labour Party to electoral oblivion in 2010?</p>

<blockquote><p>So where did Gordon get it wrong?<br />
1. Ensuring there was no contest for the leadership<br />
2. Ensuring there was no-one in the cabinet from the left-of-centre<br />
3. Inviting Tories like Digby Jones and Quentin Davies into his "big tent" and excluding the left-of-centre<br />
4. Not facilitiating withdrawal of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan<br />
5. Abolishing voting at Labour Party Conference<br />
6. Dog-whistle politics on immigration and border controls<br />
7. Macho posturing on 42 days, nuclear power, civil liberties<br />
8. Further triangulation to the right and more Blairism<br />
9. Public sector pay<br />
10. 10p tax fiasco</p></blockquote>

<p>Right on Susan.</p>]]></content>
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		<title type="text">In the wake of the Counter-Terrorism Bill</title>
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		<published>2008-06-15T01:39:26Z</published>		<updated>2008-06-15T01:48:01Z</updated>
				<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well it's been an interesting few days in the aftermath of the Counter-Terrorism Bill.</p>

<p>Here's the list of the Labour MPs who voted against the government; <em>Diane Abbott, Richard Burden, Katy Clark, Harry Cohen, Frank Cook, Jeremy Corbyn, Jim Cousins, Andrew Dismore, Frank Dobson, David Drew, Paul Farrelly, Mark Fisher, Paul Flynn, Neil Gerrard, Ian Gibson, Roger Godsiff, John Grogan, Dai Havard, Kate Hoey, Kelvin Hopkins, Glenda Jackson, Lynne Jones, Peter Kilfoyle, Andrew Mackinlay, Bob Marshall-Andrews, John McDonnell Michael Meacher, Julie Morgan, Chris Mullin, Doug Naysmith, Gordon Prentice, Linda Riordan, Alan Simpson, Emily Thornberry, Bob Wareing, David Winnick and Mike Wood.</em> Thanks again.</p>

<p>Jon Trickett, the parliamentary spokesman for Compass has been forced to stand down after Compass MPs caved into the government's demands.  Compass members are undoubtedly more than a little annoyed at being betrayed by the likes of Trickett and Cruddas.</p>

<p>David Davis stunned everyone by not only resigning as the Shadow Home Secretary but also resigning his seat (Haltemprice and Howden), which has triggered a by-election.  On which he will fight on a platform of civil liberties to try and bring about more public attention on the matter.</p>

<p>He's obviously come under assault from both Labour and Tory members, but its his decision in the end and it will bring the issue of our declining civil liberties into focus - at least for a while.  Which is required.  The Liberal Democrats have said they won't be standing against him.</p>

<p>It gets tricky for the Labour Party, how can we put up a candidate that <em>supports</em> 42-days detention?  The political damage of that would be immense, Kevin Davis rightly points out that if we don't it'll look like we're running away, but that's better than the alternative.  </p>

<p>According to <a href="http://grimmerupnorth.blogspot.com/2008/06/was-gordon-ready-to-go.html">Grimmer Up North</a> though the Labour candidate there is against 42-days detention.  So if he did decide to stand he would have the task of trying to break out of the single issue by-election, probably impossible.</p>

<p>However it has also just emerged that some <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4138807.ece">Labour MPs have come out in support</a> of David Davis.  It'll be very interesting to see what sort of reaction this will provoke from the Labour Party machinery.</p>]]></content>
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		<title type="text">Counter-Terrorism Bill passes by nine votes</title>
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		<published>2008-06-11T18:53:27Z</published>		<updated>2008-06-15T01:48:14Z</updated>
				<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The government won by nine votes.  37 Labour MPs rebelled (thanks comrades), I'm sure many Labour Party members will be keen to see which lefties caved and voted with the government on this.</p>

<p>Hopefully the Lords will chuck it out - I never thought I'd hear myself say that.</p>

<p>John McDonnell:</p>

<blockquote><p>Any attempt to present this as some sort of victory for the Government will ring absolutely hollow. There will be widespread consternation among our supporters in the country seeing a Labour Government prepared to use every tactic available in its determination to crush essential civil liberties, which have been won by the Labour movement over generations.</p></blockquote>

<blockquote><p>This is no way to run a Government. Securing votes by threats, bribes and personal pleading demeans the role of the Prime Minister. Backbench Labour MPs from all sides of the Party have looked on in disbelief at how the Government has mishandled this issue.</p></blockquote>

<p>Now some trade unions are talking about cutting funding to Labour MPs who vote against trade union policies, hopefully some Labour Party members will start thinking about deselecting their MPs who are caving into the leadership's demands.  We need more reliable socialists in the Parliamentary Labour Party, who don't throw their principles out the window the second Gordon phones them up.</p>]]></content>
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		<title type="text">42-day detention and our civil liberties in general</title>
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		<published>2008-06-11T15:32:35Z</published>		<updated>2008-06-11T16:24:58Z</updated>
				<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I originally wasn't going to blog about this, my views are already pretty well known (major assault on our civil liberties over the last decade), but something just forced my hand.</p>

<p>It was a blogger on <a href="http://www.labourhome.org/story/2008/6/11/93958/9054">LabourHome</a>.</p>

<p>I genuinely thought before now the people who supported the government on this issue in this party just didn't care one way or the other, and so they'd go with their party "loyalties".  I never expected anything this extreme.</p>

<p>He starts off praising Brown's performance on PMQ's today, and saying Cameron looked weak...  Sigh, who cares.  It's the policies that count, not how well people can show off on TV.</p>

<blockquote><p>Cameron looked weak harking on about civil liberties; well guess what - we are at war with radical islamic extremism</p></blockquote>

<p>At war with radical Islamic extremism?  I suppose radical Islam and Islamic extremism are separate and this is some sort of new strain which combines them both and is even more deadly.</p>

<p>Whatever...  I'm not fighting in this war, I've got other extremists to deal with, ones who could actually destroy our civil liberties, and give the police the power to detain people forever (read: make people dissapear).  Yes, that's what he said:</p>

<blockquote><p>if the police need more time to question; then they should be granted all the time in the world.</p></blockquote>

<p>Over my cold dead body.  28 days is bad enough.  Another two weeks is insane, people shouldn't be detained for more than 24 hours, maybe the courts should be allowed to extend that in serious cases, maybe for a week but what we're talking about now is completely off the scale.</p>

<blockquote><p>Presumed terrorists should be afforded no benefit of the doubt</p></blockquote>

<p>I remember a time when people were innocent until proven guilty.</p>

<blockquote><p>This debate about 6 weeks is laughable. Imagine if the enemy facing their trial for the liquid explosives managed to go through with the plan - we would not be having this conversation.</p></blockquote>

<p>Of course we would be having this conversation, unless you're so extreme you think they're going to kill all 60 million of us.</p>

<p>I thought this would settle down over time from the initial "9/11" attacks which sparked all of this, but I'm getting increasing concerned by things like this.  </p>

<p>Just a few months ago we saw some teenager arrested for carrying a sign saying that Scientology is a cult.</p>

<p>Yes that's right, he was arrested for carrying a sign with words on it.</p>

<p><em>Scientology is a CULT.</em> I'm right with you dude.</p>

<p>We increasingly need a written constitution guaranteeing our right to freedom of speech, too many times people are forced to be quiet due to laws against "offending" (now there's a law open to interpretation) people, laws against upsetting these people, or those people.  What happened to a good, open and honest conversation?  Our libel laws also need to be balanced so the burden of evidence is upon the claimant.</p>

<p>Brown's been trying to buy off the Labour backbenchers from voting against the government on the Counter-Terrorism Bill.  It looks like it is working, I've heard the Compass group of MPs have caved in.  John McDonnell has now boycotted the Compass conference in response (good on you John).</p>

<p>Hopefully this bill will be defeated.  Those lefty MPs who vote with the government on this should be hanging their heads in shame.</p>]]></content>
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		<title type="text">May Manifesto petition reminder</title>
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		<published>2008-06-04T22:40:44Z</published>		<updated>2008-06-04T22:40:44Z</updated>
				<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just a heads up to those who didn't see the entry on the Yeovil CLP blog about the <a href="http://www.johnmcdonnell.org.uk/2008/06/over-600-sign-may-manifesto-petition.html">May Manifesto</a> petition, which outlines the following changes to policy:</p>

<ul><li>Nailing the 10p tax mistake by the introduction of a fair tax system removing the low paid from taxation and ensuring the wealthiest and corporations pay their fair share </li><li>An increase in the basic state pension, immediately restoring the link with earnings, lifting people off means tested benefits and providing free care for the elderly </li><li>An immediate start on a large scale council house building programme and assistance for those facing repossession </li><li>Immediate end to programme of local Post Office closures and liberalisation of postal services </li><li>An end to the privatisation of our public services </li><li>A new pay deal for public sector workers to protect their living standards and tackle low pay </li><li>Abolishing tuition fees and restoring maintenance grants for all students </li><li>Scrapping ID cards and abandoning 42 days detention </li><li>Introduction of a trade union freedom bill and measures to protect temporary and agency workers </li><li>Rejecting the proposals to renew Trident</li></ul>

<p>You can stick your name on the petition by emailing info@l-r-c.org.uk with 'petition' in the subject line with your name and CLP or trade union.</p>]]></content>
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		<title type="text">Reports of my "meltdown" much exaggerated</title>
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		<published>2008-05-23T17:04:33Z</published>		<updated>2008-05-23T17:58:45Z</updated>
				<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>According to our mate Kevin Davis I've suffered some kind of "complete meltdown" in response to the defeat in Crewe and Nantwich, while I am flattered at the amount of attention I'm getting from Mr Davis I am somewhat concerned about how it is being twisted.</p>

<p>He seems to be under the impression that me calling for a modest increase in the minimum wage, changing how councils are funded, and stopping anymore unwarranted military invasions.  Is something new, is something I'm throwing out there in response to the disaster New Labour have wandered into.</p>

<p>This is not the case.  These are the same policies I've been supporting and pushing forward since my teens.  The same socialist policies I joined the Labour Party to support, primarily in response to the John McDonnell leadership attempt which showed me and thousands of other socialists out there that the Labour Party wasn't simply the red-coloured wing of the Tory Party.  These are the same policies I was selected to fight for by the Yeovil Labour Party, an organisation which is stronger now than it has been in years, the same policies that have strong support with working people in and around Yeovil and nationally.</p>

<p>The defeat in the local elections and in Crewe and Nantwich is hardly surprising.  The Labour Representation Committee of which I am a member was warning that unless we had a debate within the Labour Party over our direction when Blair stepped down we would lurch from crisis to crisis.</p>

<p>I'm still waiting for the Tories to say what they're going to do differently to Gordon Brown, not a lot probably, considering they're almost always voting with the Labour government against the Labour backbenches.  </p>

<p>I've made it pretty clear what I support.</p>

<p>When are we going to hear something about what the Tories will do? Other than raising the inheritance tax threshold to &#163;1 million.  I wonder who that move will benefit exactly.</p>]]></content>
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		<title type="text">Large swing to the Tories in Crewe and Nantwich</title>
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		<published>2008-05-23T01:56:06Z</published>		<updated>2008-05-23T02:01:35Z</updated>
				<content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Things are just going from bad to worse for the government, it would be an immense misreading of the situation for New Labour ministers to dismiss this result as simply mid-term blues.  The Prime Minister's relaunch after the disaster of the local elections has proved to be totally ineffective.  This result demonstrates the overwhelming anger and contempt in which New Labour is now held by our traditional supporters - John McDonnell MP.</p></blockquote>

<p>Labour needs to scrap this pro-market neo-liberal Tory nonsense, and start going in the right (and by right, I mean <em>left</em>) direction.  The 2008 May Manifesto would be a good start:</p>

<ul>
  <li>Nailing the 10p tax mistake by the introduction of a fair tax system removing the low paid from taxation and ensuring the wealthiest and corporations pay their fair share </li>
  <li>An increase in the basic state pension, immediately restoring the link with earnings, lifting people off means tested benefits and providing free care for the elderly </li>
  <li>An immediate start on a large scale council house building programme and assistance for those facing repossession </li>
  <li>Immediate end to programme of local Post Office closures and liberalisation of postal services </li>
  <li>An end to the privatisation of our public services </li>
  <li>A new pay deal for public sector workers to protect their living standards and tackle low pay </li>
  <li>Abolishing tuition fees and restoring maintenance grants for all students</li>
  <li>Scrapping ID cards and abandoning 42 days detention</li>
  <li>Introduction of a trade union freedom bill and measures to protect temporary and agency workers </li>
  <li>Rejecting the proposals to renew Trident</li>
</ul>

<p>And may I suggest a few things to go on that list.  Minimum wage of at least &#163;7.50, funding councils from central government, and no more imperialist wars, we should be using our armed forces to defend the people of Venezuela and other countries and not guaranteeing lucrative contracts for US corporations.</p>]]></content>
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		<title type="text">More on abortion</title>
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			<name>Paul Smith</name>
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		<id>http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/2008/05/21/more-on-abortion</id>
		<published>2008-05-21T15:42:20Z</published>		<updated>2008-05-21T15:59:37Z</updated>
				<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Comrade Lee sent in a rather hefty <a href="http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/2008/05/20/attempts-to-lower-abortion-limit-defeate#c7849">comment</a> on the subject which got me thinking, and although this isn't a direct reply it will cover some thinks he talked about.  I had already seen his <a href="http://blogs.labour.org.uk/lee-skevington?Entry=3f67c940-f6ea-96f4-8153-65c98f811d84">blog</a> entry on the subject and expected this. :-)</p>

<p>I do agree that discussion about lowering the limit at which an abortion can be carried out is not necessarily "bronze-age thinking", however the move to get it lowered was undoubtedly led by religious fundamentalists who want to see it banned.  I think where we draw the line is a valid area of discussion - as long as it is not influenced by mythology from a time when women were the property of men.</p>

<p>I supported the 24 week limit in that I didn't want to see the limit reduced.  Citing evidence that some pre-mature babies born at 24 weeks can survive is weak at best, no doubt in a few decades we'll have the technology to develop an embryo right the way through to "birth" without a woman required (not that something like that would ever be allowed), should that end abortion, or reduce the limit to a few weeks? I don't think so.</p>

<p>However, if you step back and see what we're doing here.  We're passing legislation saying what a woman can or cannot do with her own body, it doesn't effect anybody else outside her body, just her.  This isn't a huge corporation we need to control because they're screwing over hundreds of thousands of workers and buggering up society.  Do we really need the state poking its nose into something like this?</p>

<p>No.  Let the woman decide along with a doctor.</p>

<p>Women do have a concious and if any limits were scrapped they wouldn't all be having abortions later in the pregnancy.  We don't need laws for every moral thing that goes on in society especially when it concerns the actions of an individual which doesn't have an effect upon anyone else, society and the individuals within it are perfectly capable of knowing what is acceptable at the time and what isn't.</p>

<p>No woman goes into an abortion willy nilly like its just a contraceptive I totally reject the argument that it is used this way.  If it was we would see the average woman having something like 8 abortions - like we did in the Soviet Union when it was the only form of family planning available.  We don't see abortions at anywhere near those sort of figures.</p>

<p>And one last thing on a slightly lighter note, on your vegetarian and all life is sacred remark. :-)</p>

<p>Well sacred is a bit of a strong term for me, I don't believe all life is sacred, if there's a wasp buzzing around near me annoying me or a spider creeping around - they won't last very long if I have my way.  Nor do the millions of other life forms we kill everyday because they're messing about inside of us.  Long may we continue to wipe out diseases and drive those pesky viruses and bacteria who don't mix very well with our insides into virtual extinction.</p>

<p>I'm also a vegetarian but not out of any moral concern for the animals, after all those animals (and plants too) have been genetically engineered by us for thousands of years for a specific purpose, those animals are given life by us - because they are useful to us, other wise you might find the odd wild cow here and there in the remote parts of the country.  We create those millions of cows, sheep and other domesticated animals and plants, feed them and keep them alive and yes in payment, we sometimes like to eat them.  Seems like a good deal to me - you get to live, we get to eat you, and we'll ensure your species survival for as long as we like to eat you.</p>]]></content>
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