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BarbOslo — Fri, 11 Jul 2025 18:22:02 +0200

Author: BarbOslo

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Hi Sophia,
We need to look closely at both weddings (1885 and 1879). If it is really Zygmunt who was the grandfather of Wiera, then we need to find a new birth record for Wiera. Check her siblings. Basically start the job over.
Anna, do you know for sure that it is Zygmunt who was Wiera's grandfather?

-Barb

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dnowicki — Fri, 11 Jul 2025 15:06:31 +0200

Author: dnowicki

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 8:06 am

joejazz wrote:

I would be very thankful if someone could translate the attached document for the birth of Weronika Wiacek, row 80. I am also including a link to the original document.

https://fotolubgens.lubgens.eu/Wola_Ranizowska/Wola_Ranizowska/U_1844-1879/Skan132.jpg

Thanking you in advance.

Hi joejazz,

The format and language of the vital records of the Austrian Empire was determined by the Austrian government. The Habsburg Empire was multinational and thus multilingual. The rulers of the empire were of the Roman Catholic religion and thus Latin was a natural choice for the language in which the records were to be kept since it was not the vernacular of any national or ethnic group but was able to serve as a common literary language for the empire. In actuality there is very little Latin which needs to be translated. Latin given names should be translated into the vernacular. However surnames and place names are already in the vernacular and thus need not be translated. What remains is a small number of Latin word—most frequently occupational or social status terms, which should be translated. Since the format of the records and the information contained therein generally does not vary, once a researcher understands the format it should be easy to garner the genealogical information contained within the records with the use of a few translation tools. The columnar format makes it relatively easy to locate and translate the information in the record without any real knowledge of the Latin language.

The translation you requested follows.

Wishing you success,

Dave

Translation:
Col. 1: Series = Number in Order (for the current year): 80

Col. 2: Mensis = Month: August 1867

Col. 2a: Natus = Of Birth: 1 August

Col. 2b: Baptisatus = Of Baptism: 3 August

Col. 3: Numerus Domus = House Number: 310
Notation:The one who is above (Fr. Boega?, the assistant pastor, baptized (her)

Col. 4: Nomen = Name (of person baptized): Weronika

Col. 4: Religio = Religion
Col. 4a: Catholica = Catholic: Checked
Col. 4b: Aut alia = Or another: Blank

Col. 5: Sexus = Gender
Col. 5a: Puer = Boy: Blank
Col. 5b: Puella = Girl: Checked

Col. 6: Thori = Bed
Col. 6a. Legitimi = Legitimate: Blank
Col. 6b: Illegitimi = Illegitimate: Checked
Notation: The midwife: Maria Ożga

Col. 7: Parentes = Parents
Col. 7a: Pater = Father: Blank*
Col. 7b: Mater = Mother: Maria, the daughter of Wawrzyniec Wiącak, a farmer, and of Katarzyna born Marut(?)

Col. 8: Patrini et eorum Conditio = Sponsors and their State of Life/Occupation: (Godparents is the how patrini are popularly known. Technically they are sponsors, who in theory were supposed to act as mentors for the child): Walenty Kranz, a beggar, (&) Agnieszka, the daughter of Jan Sorolak(?)

Note: *For illegitimate children the column for the name of the father regularly was left blank unless the natural father of the child acknowledged paternity and requested that his name be entered as the child’s father. This happened occasionally but not often. Five of the twenty–four birth and baptism records on the two pages are of illegitimate children and in each of those records the column for the father is left blank.

German records translations

tsmiecho — Fri, 11 Jul 2025 13:35:28 +0200

Author: tsmiecho

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:35 am

Dear Michael,

Thank you very much for your excellent translation of the Meldekarte for Xenia Richter. Your detailed and accurate work has been invaluable for my genealogical research.

I greatly appreciate your help.

Best regards,
Anna

Birth Record Or Any Proof Of Life for Great-Grandfather

J-Gen-Expert — Fri, 11 Jul 2025 06:06:13 +0200

Author: J-Gen-Expert

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:06 pm

I apologize for the mix up. I am simultaneously working on detailing out Ella Kleiner's father's Josef Altholz's family tree and the Mechel Altholz family tree. I am in touch with a descendent of Mechel's.

Mechel's clan is extensively documented. They also published articles in the Forward about their parents' Shoah survivor experiences as well as the DP camps as well as how they got to the USA and started over. The aforementioned articles incude stunning old black-and-white family photos. Also at least 2 of their clan's Shoah survivors were interviewed and videotaped for posterity. Well done, very interesting and informative interviews.

Altholz / Altholtz Clan # 3: Incidently, back in 1993 I got in touch with an elderly Shoah survivor from Dukla, Max Hirschhorn z"l (1907 -2010) who shared what he knew first-hand about the Dukla Altholz / Altholtz clans. He had a vivid and excellent memory. He was the son of Mindel Altholtz and Yossel Hirschhorn. His maternal grandparents were Yisroel Altholtz and Tzivia Gartner (born circa 1839 or earlier, based on their oldest known offspring Avrum Mordechai (Max) Altholtz's birth year of 1858). He died in 1908 and is buried in Washington Cemetery. FindAGrave has an excellent photo of his monument:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/165350777/max-altholtz

I have thoroughly documented Altholtz / Altholz Clan # 3 based on personal interviews as well as federal census data, Ellis Island records, naturalization records, obituaries, old newspapers, announcements, miscellaneous sources and a lot of Google searches. It's fairly up to date.

Probable Altholz / Altholtz Clan # 4 (I think): There appears to be a Brzozow branch of the Altholtz / Altholz clan whose matriarch's maiden name (not recorded in the Brzozow censuses or Brzozow vital records) may have been Altholtz (based on circumstantial evidence) . According to some of their descendents z"l they were related to the Altholtz / Altholz clan. Moreover, a grandson's NYC death record listed his mother's maiden name as "Althaus". So it appears that his maternal grandmother, enumerated by the 1869 Brzozow census, was probably an Altholtz. The grandson's parents emigrated to the USA during the 1880s. His mother died in Central Islip (Suffolk County) in 1906. It could take up to 8 months to obtain a copy of her death record which hopefully should list her mother's maiden name. If my hypothesis is correct and I'm able to confirm the Altholtz connection that will add more that 2,000 descendents (including spouses). Back in those days children didn't automatically inherit their father's surname unless their parents were legally married (ritual marriage Ketubahs didn't satisfy the requirements). Otherwise the offspring were "nieslubne" and in accordance with laws in effect at that time inherited their mother's family name. If the parents subsequently obtained a civil ceremony and provided proof of marriage as well as the father and mother appeared in person at the place where the birth records were originally recorded, the offsprings' birth records would be amended accordingly, along with the father's name written in, as well as remarks noted thereon as to the place, date, documentation Akt #s. Many couples at that time only had ritual marriages. It wasn't until the 1930s that someone could fill out and file an affidavit and self-declare their father 's name and switch from the mother's surname to the father's surname.

Polish records translations

C J Schmidt — Fri, 11 Jul 2025 03:22:01 +0200

Author: C J Schmidt

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:22 pm

Thanks again Marcel.

It's always encouraging to find persons on these records bearing the same last name. I suspected Joachim to be a brother to Szymon Kocynski. And Joachim died the following year, so maybe an older brother. Both having children in the same time period but Joachim's starting earlier, 1790's. Some married sisters on other birth records for Szymon, I believe. Going back further will be more difficult, as there were no parents names on the 1800 marriage record for Szymon Kocynski and Anna Konwent.

But thank you,

CJSchmidt

Translations request (Kocynski's)

marcelproust — Thu, 10 Jul 2025 23:22:24 +0200

Author: marcelproust

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:22 pm

C J Schmidt wrote:

Continued translation requests Kocynski's.

3. 1818 Birth Franciszka Kocynski

Thank you so much.
Donation will be sent in a couple days, before end of week.

Sincerely,

CJ Schmidt

69
Stary Radziejów

In the year of 1818, on the 23rd day of August, at 10 p.m., in front of Us, the Radziejów parish-priest, serving as Civil Registrar for the commune of Radziejów, located in the county of Radziejów, in the voivodeship of Mazowsze, appeared Szymon Kocyński, a farmer from Stary Radziejów, 40 years old and presented Us a newborn female child, who was born in his house on the 17th day of August of the current year, at 11 a.m. and declared that the child was born to him and his wife, Anna Kocyńska, 32 years old and that his wish was to name the chils: Franciszka.
After the above statement and the presentation of the child were made this birth record was read in the presence of the nobleman Jakub Cyliński, 50 years old, living in the town of Radziejów and Joachim Kocyński, 60 years old, a peasant from Stary Radziejów and it was signed by Us and Jakub Cyliński. Joachim Kocyński was illiterate

Priest Leopold Wnorowski, the Radziejów parish-priest, serving as Civil Registrar,

Jakub Cyliński.

Translations request (Kocynski's)

marcelproust — Thu, 10 Jul 2025 23:02:09 +0200

Author: marcelproust

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:02 pm

C J Schmidt wrote:

Hello again,
Could we please translate some more for me?

I have so many that I need some help with, but will try to keep it to a minimum.

1. 1838 Death Anna (Konwent) Kocynski
Comment: This was on 2 pages, bottom of page continued on top of next page.

2. 1809 Birth Pawel Kocynski

3. 1818 Birth Franciszka Kocynski

Stary Radziejów
35

It happened in Radziejów, on December 9th, 1838, at 11 a.m.
Appeared Paweł Kociński, 30 years old and Roch Lewandowski, 30 years old, both farmers from Stary Radziejów and they declared that on the 8th day of the current month, at 10 p.m., died Anna Kocińska nee Konwent, a widow, a catholic, a farmer living in Stary Radziejów, 60 years old, a daughter of the unknown parents, whose birth place is unknown.
After convinced myself about the death of Kocińska this act was read to the illiterate declarants.

The signature of the parish-priest.

Acestors reaearch

Trish — Tue, 08 Jul 2025 19:21:01 +0200

Author: Trish

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 12:21 pm

Quote:

Michael Trala
b. 10 August 1888
d. 13 January 1969

Hi Barb,
Great find for Elzbieta Mista.

I found this possible manifest for Michal Trala (Trela). He is on line #19. It's a two page manifest.

Warm Regards,
Trish

Name Michal Trala [Michal Trela]
Gender Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality Polish
Marital Status Single
Age 22
Birth Date abt 1890
Birth Place Galicia
Other Birth Place Dabrowice
Last Known Residence Dabaowica, Gal.
Departure Port Bremen
Arrival Date 15 May 1912
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Residence Place United States of America
Final Destination St Joseph, Missouri
Height 5 Feet, 7 Inches
Hair Color Blonde
Eye Color Blue
Complexion Fair
Money in Possession 20
Person in Old Country Jan Trela
Person in Old Country Relationship Father
Person in Old Country Residence Dabrowica Gal.
Person in US Hojcich Trela
Person in US Relationship Brother
Father Jan Trela
Sibling Hojcich Trela
Ship Name Kronprinz Wilhelm

Finding Geneteka Scan

Brad — Mon, 07 Jul 2025 21:11:59 +0200

Author: Brad

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 2:11 pm

Brad wrote:

Lewun wrote:

Thanks ever so much Barb! You found the document so quickly and then kindly translated it into English for me. I greatly appreciate your expert assistance. All the best ... Leon C.

This is amazing. This is my great grandfather. So glad that you posted this!

All the best,

Brad

(Uncle Henry's Grandson)

Is there a German forum equivalent of this forum?

stewart — Sun, 06 Jul 2025 18:55:10 +0200

Author: stewart

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:55 am

looking for clues wrote:

Stewart,
I am guessing that you already saw this, but Ancestry has 2 trees that might be worth exploring for Mario Andre' Haase
https://www.ancestry.com/search/categories/42/?name=Mario+Andre%27_Haase&event=_germany_3253&birth=1947&birth_x=0-0-0&event_x=_1-0&name_x=1_1
Click on view all to see both

I have an Ancestry account but not a current membership.

Good luck,
Diane

Thanks for your interest Diane but his dates are all I know about him, there is no tree for his own ancestry only for the family he married into

If “busia” / “busha” is not a Polish-Americanism …

SPG — Sun, 06 Jul 2025 08:59:46 +0200

Author: SPG

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:59 am

td85 wrote:

Interesting.

My maternal grandmother had my brother and me call her "busha" even though this side of my family was Ukrainian-American.

Busha makes sense for Ukrainians since their language is closer to Russian as I understand it.

Translation of Polish marriage in Hungarian

Denise Worden — Sun, 06 Jul 2025 02:17:45 +0200

Author: Denise Worden

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 7:17 pm

Thank you very much for the maps Sophia.

Polish death record translations

BarbOslo — Tue, 01 Jul 2025 16:36:38 +0200

Author: BarbOslo

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 9:36 am

Hi,
It seems that Zofia and Hieronim are siblings. They have the same parents: Antoni Dzikowski (26 years old) and Bronislawa nee Samelko (23 years old). However, if you look at the date of birth (page 2 on the left), Hieronim was born on 15.02.1925 and Zofia on 5.04.1923. The spouses of both are also mentioned in this document.

Regards,
-Barb