Preterist Heresy

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2009-08-11T16:22:00.000-07:00

Hey everyone, Just a quick note for those visiting my blog. This blog has not been updated in over a year because I have lost interest in writing about Preterism. Back in the day, this blog was very active and wildly popular. Thankfully, I have taken a long break from posting to this blog and for over a year turned it off. I only recently turned it back on, as a witness against this doctrine. Honestly, I can't stomach reading Full Preterist material and find posting a waste of time. For those...

Rabid left-wing Preterists

2008-12-18T18:25:00.000-08:00

Parson's Pen Blog says "What do the left-wing attacks upon Vice-Presidential candidate Sarah Palin have in common with the Apostolic Full-Preterist’s method of defending their doctrine? Just as the rabid left-wing liberals have been particularly demeaning in their personal attacks upon Palin, the Apostolic Full-Preterists have been equally demeaning in their personal attacks upon anyone that disagrees with them. I should know, having made several efforts to engage them in a civil intellectual...

All Enemies Are Defeated in 70 AD

2008-12-17T07:30:00.000-08:00

David Embury (Davo) "Where has your consistent preterism gone? God has already resolved the "death" issue, thus there is no continuance of death post mortem – that's the good news of the Gospel – the death has been dealt its final blow, and as a consequence God has no more enemies. In the Parousia DEATH being the LAST enemy was destroyed, and that pretty much covers ALL enemies – there can be NO enemies beyond this LAST one. Therefore, IF the last enemy to be destroyed was death, then...

The Imagination of Hyper-Preterists Never Ceases to Amaze

2008-12-15T05:40:00.000-08:00

"Just think: someday a young believer will walk into a Christian bookstore and go to the prophecy section: instead of seeing 60 pre-mill dispy titles, 2 amill titles, and 1 book by either Demar or Hanegraaff, they'll see books by Preston, Frost, Kloske, Martin, Birks, Noe, Simmons, and King. There will be CD series by Birks and Curtis. There will be debates by Preston. Who knows, there may even be books by Gary DeMar and Kenneth Gentry talking about why, near the end of their lives and...

More Holes in Hyper-Preterism

2008-12-14T12:12:00.000-08:00

mari4him comments "On that premise, ALL prophecies were fulfilled in 70 AD, thus these things were for those of that day and not for or about us. Thus this means then the saints were resurrected and gathered up meeting Jesus. They would have reigned with Jesus for 1000 years, according to the prophecies in Scripture. And, during this 1000 years, Satan was chained and bound, no longer able to deceive the nations. After these 1000 years, Satan would then "be set free for a 'short' time". So, if...

Holes in Hyper-Preterism

2008-12-13T20:13:00.000-08:00

mari4him comments "If the prophecies of the book of Revelations have already come to pass, and if Jesus second coming has already occurred, would it not be that a couple of things would be evident in this day and age. 1st, the kingdom of God, both spiritual and physical would be fully manifested before us.2nd, Satan would be bound and cast away, no longer free to seek the souls of man.3rd, would we not be living in the resurrection fully, not just spiritually, which means, there is no marriage,...

Dead Raised From Hades Prior to AD70

2008-12-13T18:26:00.000-08:00

Rusureofit comments on a Hyper-Preterist blog on the issue of Hymenaeus and Philetus. "If Paul in 1st Thess.4:13 is yet looking for the dead to be raised from Hades at some point in the future around AD 70 then how come in 1st Corinthians 15:16 He says: "For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either." Hadn't Christ been raised from Hades at that point yet? If so then the dead in Hades must have also been raised. Hence we have the witnesses to attest to that resurrection...

Is Hyper-Preterism a Cult?

2008-12-07T15:04:00.000-08:00

John Church (1829) - All this was not fulfilled when he desolated Jerusalem

2008-12-02T14:37:00.000-08:00

The National Preacher By Dr. John H. Church (1829) “Having thus spoken of his coming by death, and given warning to prepare for this momentous event, Christ was naturally led to foretell his coming to judge the world, and render to all according to their deeds. And thus he passed from the destruction of Jerusalem to the state of every man, either at death, or at the final judgment ; and spoke for the instruction and warning of men in all future time. But all this was not fulfilled when he...

Daniel Buck (1856) The eye of hope has ever been directed to things beyond the present life

2008-12-02T09:35:00.000-08:00

Our Lord's Great Prophecy, and Its Parallels Throughout the Bible By Daniel Buck (1856) "When it is remarked, that the prophecy is now finished, it not meant that there is nothing afterwards introduced which is of a prophetic character, for there are several instances to be noticed." "The wretched attempts to make it (PH: all prophecy) apply somehow to the period of the downfall of Jerusalem, are certainly too superficial, and too utterly destitute of any historical evidence, to...

Terry Benton: How Hyper-Preterism is LIKE CANCER

2008-12-01T11:32:00.000-08:00

Terry Benton Debate with Don Preston says "His whole doctrine is built around a "consummation" theory of Jesus having to "come back out of the MHP" before His sacrifice can benefit us. Thus, you have seen what blindness comes with this AD 70 doctrine. It is a position that turns the first forty years after Jesus’ death upside-down. It turns the teaching of the New Testament on end and changes every verse it touches. Nothing is clear any more. There is a fitting description that would still...

James Gall (1887) - Second Coming ALSO refers to DEATH?

2008-11-28T03:25:00.000-08:00

Wherein millenarians are wrong By James Gall (1887) "The form in which the question was put enabled our Lord to give an answer, more to their and our edification than they intended ; and, as it was conveyed in a prophetic style, that is to say, a highly figurative and poetic form, it was, like prophecy in general, capable of more than one application. We need not be surprised, therefore, to find three different Comings alluded to, all of them Comings of the Son of Man to Judgment — First,...

Hyper-Preterism - A Damnable Heresy

2008-11-22T13:09:00.000-08:00

William Price "The Hymenaen heresy known as preterism is one of the damnable heresies being promoted within the Church today. This resurrected heresy, which has renewed roots within Roman Catholicism, has been creeping unaware in many Apostolic churches, and so long as liberal and apathetic pastors are in the pulpit, this heresy will continue its destructive path. And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the...

The power of comparing words...

2008-11-22T04:30:00.000-08:00

Hyperpreterist Propaganda The Truth We [hyperpreterists] try to draw off of as much Evangelical theology as possible. There is so much good stuff from first rate scholars like Joel B. Green, J. Christian Beker, N.T. Wright, James Dunn, F. F, Bruce, etc. None of these men are full preterists, but their eschatology is so close it is scary. (Hyperpreterist – Samuel Frost) "You may be allowed to eat meat offered to idols, but you cannot deny the future bodily...

John Stevenson: Hyper-Preterism's "This Generation" is WRONG

2008-11-21T04:31:00.000-08:00

John Stevenson“Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, 35 that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Truly I say to you, all these things shall come upon this generation.”...

Lewis Todd (1834) How we USE TO Kick Hyper-Preterism to the curb, back in the day!!!! ROFL

2008-11-20T07:34:00.000-08:00

A Defence Containing the Author's Renunciation of Universalism Explained and Enlarged: The Notices and Aspersions of Universalist Editors Answered and Repelled ; Arguments and Principles of Universalists, Examined and Exploded and Religion and Revelation Vindicated Against Skepticism and Infidelity By Lewis C. Todd (1834) "Again when "all nations were gathered together before him," and the King said to them on the left hand, "depart from me ye cursed," &c. who and what did he mean? Why the...

Lewis Todd (1834) More DUMB Hyper-Preterists Assertions

2008-11-20T07:14:00.000-08:00

A Defense Containing the Author's Renunciation of Universalism Explained and Enlarged: The Notices and Aspersions of Universalist Editors Answered and Repelled ; Arguments and Principles of Universalists, Examined and Exploded and Religion and Revelation Vindicated Against Skepticism and Infidelity By Lewis C. Todd (1834) "I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some." - 1 Cor. 9:22. Saved from what? Not from the destruction of Jerusalem? for he refers to those, who...

Walter Balfour (1833): THANKS TO MOSES STUART, I BECAME A UNIVERSALIST

2008-11-19T11:25:00.000-08:00

Letters to Rev. Moses Stuart By Walter Balfour (1833) (Note: Moses Stuart is a beloved Preterist among most Hyper-Preterists. They sell his books and glorify his writings in every sense of the word. This book consists of letters written to Moses Stuart to convince him that the very views he holds to, are the SAME as that of the Universalists; aka 19th Century Hyper-Preterists. Balfour blames Moses Stuart for converting him to Universalism.) "I deemed Universalism a great error, sometimes...

Parsons Cooke (1834) 19th Century Universalists are the Hyper-Preterists of Today

2008-11-19T10:20:00.000-08:00

Modern Universalism Exposed By Parsons Cooke (1834) "IT IS NOT CALLED THE GOSPEL "EVERLASTINGLY PREACHED", "BUT THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL." . . . IF IN EVERY SENSE OF PERISHING IT WERE ALREADY PAST IN THE MOMENT OF BELIEVING, AND THERE WERE NO ESCAPE FROM A DEATH YET TO COME UPON THE UNBELIEVING. AND WHEN PAUL TO TIMOTHY SAYS FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT OF FAITH, LAY HOLD ON ETERNAL LIFE, HE WAS GUILTY OF OF AN ABSURDITY ON (MR. HYPER PRETERIST) HYPOTHESIS. FOR TIMOTHY MUST HAVE ALREADY GOT HOLD OF...

Parsons Cooke (1834) No Greater Event in the History of the World than the Destruction of Jerusalem

2008-11-19T08:19:00.000-08:00

Modern Universalism Exposed By Parsons Cooke (1834) Page 189 "Again, the Universalists (aka Hyper-Preterism) make the doctrine of the resurrection of the dead to be the leading doctrine of the gospel. And there is a sense in which it is truly so. But they exalt this doctrine more than any other class of religionists, in that they find in it the restoration not only of the life of the body, but also of the soul... And yet they pretend that they can believe that a doctrine so important to them,...

(1850) WHY IMAGINE THAT THEY WHERE ALWAYS THINKING OF THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM?

2008-11-18T12:16:00.000-08:00

The Christian Examiner and Religious Miscellany (1850)By Alvan Lamson, Ezra Stiles Gannett, George Putnam, American Unitarian Association, George Edward Ellis When the Apostle said, in any way, "Brethren, the time is short," we suppose they meant very much the same that we mean when we say the same thing. WHY IMAGINE THAT THEY WHERE ALWAYS THINKING OF THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM, OR THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WORLD? Christ came in these, but not in these only. He came in the whole power of his...

Another Early Universalist insisting on Hyper-Preterist Truths

2008-11-18T11:04:00.000-08:00

The Universalist and Ladies' Repository. The Universalist and Ladies' Repository Published by B.B. Mussey, 1843Many pastors who has learned his people to hate the Universalists mode of interpreting prophecies, is now reaping his reward in the desolations over which he is called to mourn. . . Christ's second coming was at, or about the time of the destruction of Jerusalem, A.D., 70. This we can easily prove . . . and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all...

David Lord (1850) The Price of Tea in China

2008-11-18T08:01:00.000-08:00

David N. Lord (1850) These views which were entertained by the apostles and their disciples of the place which their resurrection holds in their salvation, thus furnish an explanation of their waiting and looking for the coming of Christ, as the great epoch of their hopes and expectations ; while, on the other hand, on Professor Crosby's theory, it is wholly inexplicable. There was nothing in the fall of Jerusalem, and slaughter, dispersion, and captivity of the Jews, to...

Andrew Perriman - Sectarian Rhetoric of Preterism At Arms Length

2008-11-17T14:06:00.000-08:00

Andrew Perriman "The polemical origins, continuing controversialism, and sectarian rhetoric of Preterism make it a difficult movement to evaluate - and I have to admit, my instinct is still to hold it somewhat at arm’s length." Virgil Vaduva - Emerging folks like Andrew Perriman have pointed out the lack of dynamism and contemporaneous substance in Preterist theology; without the work of people like Ken Gentry those of us full preterists would not be as far along as we are, and here in...

Roderick Edwards: Hyperpreterism like homosexuality is a distortion of what is true

2008-11-14T09:05:00.000-08:00

Roderick Edwards "Hyperpreterism is a distortion of Christianity as much as homosexuality is a distortion of human sexuality. Oh sure, both groups speak of “love”, “tolerance”, “acceptance”. Both groups whine about being rejected & persecuted & that they just want “equality” when in fact over & over you will see both of these groups have an agenda to force & supplant. Both groups want to revise what has been the “traditional” with their “new paradigms” — be it homosexuality...