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		<title>The Importance of the Collar Stay</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CYH</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Outlining the importance of using collar stays and inexpensive options for replacing them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collar stays &#8211; those little flimsy plastic pieces to go into the tip of your collar of your dress shirts aren&#8217;t just frivolous packaging that came with your shirt. They serve a very important purpose that isn&#8217;t at all dandyish &#8211; to keep your collar tips crisp and straight. Without them, the tips of your collar will start to do this upward bowing erection thing. Not cool.</p>
<p>I will admit to being tempted to nix the stays while wearing a shirt with a robust collar, only to find in the middle of the day it starts to bow upwards. Resist this temptation! <strong>Always, always put in stays</strong>. Additional benefits of the stay are when when you go sans-tie your collar won&#8217;t flop over, and when you do the shirt with sweater look it keeps the collar inside your sweater.</p>
<p>Even though they&#8217;re very important for you to not look stupid, the ones that come with the shirt are usually too flimsy to be used regularly. I don&#8217;t know why. The good news is that there are several inexpensive options to replace the original junky ones.</p>
<p>I tend towards the cheap and disposable because I inevitably lose them or don&#8217;t forget to remove them when having them laundered. Aside: your cleaner really should be removing your stays prior to pressing or they&#8217;re liable to melt it into your shirt. I have purchased several of the stays below from Brooks Brothers for only $9 online, and even cheaper if you have an outlet store. Advanced user note: quite a few airports have B Brothers now and they do carry stays.</p>
<div id="attachment_1577" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/BrooksBrothersStay.png"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/BrooksBrothersStay-300x292.png" alt="" title="BrooksBrothersStay" width="300" height="292" class="size-medium wp-image-1577" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit: <a href='http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Plastic-Collar-Stays/106C,default,pd.html?dwvar_106C_Color=WHIT&#038;contentpos=1&#038;cgid=0872'>Brooks Brothers.</a></p></div>
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<p>You&#8217;ll notice there are 10 large collar stays. Since most modern shirts have collars that are slimmer than Brooks Brothers, their &#8220;large&#8221; stays are totally unusable. This is actually a great litmus test: if you are not a big and tall guy, and you can use one of their large (2.75&#8243;) stay without getting your neck stabbed then you probably have to <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/style/fit-lesson-1-shirts/" title="upgrade">upgrade</a> your shirt. I tend to mostly use the small stays so I buy several of the vials at at time. P.S. I freaking love the vials but haven&#8217;t figured out what to do with them once I&#8217;ve lost all the stays.</p>
<p>Others will opt for the more durable option. I think this is fine if: you wear a dress shirt infrequently, need some added heft to weigh your collar down (say, while unbuttoned), or you are a responsible individual and don&#8217;t lose things all the time like me.</p>
<div id="attachment_1579" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/IndochinoStays.png"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/IndochinoStays-300x222.png" alt="" title="IndochinoStays" width="300" height="222" class="size-medium wp-image-1579" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit: <a href='http://www.indochino.com/product/Indochino-Metal-Collar-Stays'>Indochino.</a></p></div>
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<p>Indochino has a pair for only $9. Since they&#8217;re up to date on fashion, I would suspect their length is appropriate for most modern men&#8217;s shirts (the measurements aren&#8217;t online). Again, the only problem I foresee with these are losing them. I just did an Indochino purchase so will update once I have them in hand. Macy&#8217;s has several brass stays for $18 (no measurements though).</p>
<div id="attachment_1580" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 272px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/MacysStays.png"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/MacysStays-262x300.png" alt="" title="MacysStays" width="262" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-1580" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit: <a href='http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/club-room-brass-collar-stays?ID=337572&#038;PseudoCat=se-xx-xx-xx.esn_results'>Macys.</a></p></div>
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<p>Bottom line: buy some stays and keep them on hand. Throw some in your dopp kit and in your car and you&#8217;ll be prepared for anything.</p>
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		<title>Black Lapel vs. Indochino</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 02:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CYH</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brief comparison between Black Lapel and Indochino custom tailored clothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The continual theme of PG has been that the most important thing you can do to make yourself look better is to wear clothes that fit properly. This usually requires a combination of knowing the right brands to buy and then having the finer points tweaked by a tailor. In an ideal world this would be simplified by having your clothes custom made for you, but this route has always been way too expensive. A new crop of custom online tailors has solved this problem by bringing custom tailored clothes to the masses at incredibly reasonable prices. <a href="http://www.indochino.com">Indochino</a> has the largest web presence, but new upstarts like <a href="http://www.blacklapel.com">Black Lapel</a> could start challenging them. BL is intriguing as it bills itself as having nicer construction and fabric than Indochino, at roughly the same price (BL is a little bit more expensive).</p>
<p>This post will compare my (limited) experience with both companies, to hopefully give you a bit of insight before you pull the trigger on a suit/shirt/pants. I <strong>highly</strong> recommend going this route. The prices and end result make this an absolute no brainer.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">My Sample Size</span></p>
<p>Indochino:<br />
• 2 shirts about a year ago (both remade)<br />
• 1 pair of trousers purchased a year ago (no remake)<br />
• 2 shirts purchased a month ago (no remake)<br />
• Aided in purchasing 3 suits (1 remake, 2 altered)</p>
<p>Black Lapel:<br />
• 1 shirts purchased a month ago<br />
• 3-piece suit purchased a month ago (no remake, slight alteration)</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Fit</span><br />
My biggest gripe with the fit of IC garments have been the overly-tailored appearance of their final product. There is an extreme amount of tapering around the torso region, creating too much of an hour glass silhouette. I just think the look is slightly feminine and wouldn&#8217;t work for the average guy. <a href="http://www.indochino.com/product/The-Polished-Prep-Teal-Plaid-Shirt">Exhibit A</a>.</p>
<p>BL solves this by offering 3 different fit types for their garments &#8211; slim, tailored and standard. I think this is a great idea though it wasn&#8217;t immediately evident as to the functional differences between the three fits (I was a bit confused). I opted for the most form fitting version: slim fit. This seems to correspond more with the fit of an IC garment.</p>
<p><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMG_7452.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1558" title="IMG_7452" src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMG_7452-200x300.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="300" /></a><br />
<a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMG_7453.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1555" title="IMG_7453" src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMG_7453-200x300.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="300" /></a><br />
<a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMG_7451.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1557" title="IMG_7451" src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMG_7451-200x300.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>Suit<br />
The fit of the BL suit jacket is flawless. No imperfections. It&#8217;s very form fitting so I can&#8217;t gain any weight in my gut. After my experience, I think the average guy should go for the tailored fit as opposed to the slim. This will give the custom look without the overly-feminine silhouette of the IC suits. Note that in the photo the cuffs of my shirt aren&#8217;t buttoned (I never button my cuffs). If I had to change anything, it would be to have the jacket be a bit shorter but that&#8217;s most likely a personal preference.</p>
<p>The cuffs on the pants are a little long, but that&#8217;s easily fixed by my tailor. The fit is so good for the jacket that it makes me think I may have made a mistake in my measurements.</p>
<p>The vest is a different story from the jacket as it fits a bit boxier than I&#8217;d like. I know I tend to prefer my vests to be very form fitting, so this could be particular to me. This is probably something that my tailor can correct.</p>
<p><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMG_7448.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1556" title="IMG_7448" src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMG_7448-200x300.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>Shirt<br />
The shirts I purchased a year ago from IC were in need of a complete remake (paid for by IC). The fit was far too snug (extreme pulling at the buttons) and the right armpit was much higher than the left. A remake was acceptable but definitely not perfect. I added about a 0.25&#8243; to several of my measurements. Inexplicably, the right armpit was still slightly tighter (causing a slight wrinkle in the front of the shirt). The more recent shirts I received were far better (I used the remake measurements). No remake required, but they still had an imperfection in the right armpit.</p>
<p>In contrast, the BL shirt was flawless in its consistency of fit. The only issue for me was that it was very form fitting, but somehow does not look overly tailored. I did find a bit of pulling at the buttons of my shirt in the chest region and am still deciding if this is something I can live with. The flawless fit (even if the fit was a bit too snug) makes me think that the tailored fit would have been perfect for me. BL did warn me by saying the slim fit is &#8220;very form-fitting&#8221;. They weren&#8217;t kidding.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Construction/Overall Feel</span><br />
This is the clear cut winner for Black Lapel. The suit feels very well constructed and light. My experience with IC&#8217;s suits (again, caveat that this could be old info) was that the suits were very heavy. Also, the chest region seemed to be unnaturally bulky, most likely due to the way in which the suit was constructed. You can read about this in more detail <a href="http://www.indochino-review.com/2010/05/indochino-suit-construction-canvassed.html">here</a>. Granted, IC could have corrected this problem.</p>
<p>I just found that the BL suit flows more naturally like my much more expensive suits. Derek Tian, co-founder of Black Lapel, told me that their suits are half-canvassed thus accounting for it to drape much better, but also allows for better wear through time.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Material</span><br />
I couldn&#8217;t really feel a significant difference in the fabric of my suit. They both seemed to be of solid quality without feeling too cheap or papery. I think IC and BL are similar in this respect. However, the way in which the garment is constructed definitely affects the feel of the suit more than just the material (see above) and this is where BL shines.</p>
<p>The material of the dress shirts is where there was the most difference. My first experience with IC&#8217;s shirts were that they felt too synthetic and thin. However, my most recent IC purchase felt much more natural and had some decent heft to them.</p>
<p>The BL shirt that I have feels more like my normal dress shirts. Not too thin and see-through, which is important with a white shirt. Aside: in the photo I&#8217;ve got a &#8216;beater on, this is a huge <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/tips/know-your-undershirt/">no-no</a>.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Bottom Line</span><br />
I like both companies. But, in my experience BL is the clear winner, especially for suits. The construction feels better and the fit was flawless. This is huge for me because I hate the thought of going to a tailor after having something made custom. I&#8217;m very excited to see their new offerings as they grow their line.</p>
<p>Indochino does offer more choices that work with my existing closet, since right now BL has more basic items that I have plenty of. Because of this, and the improvement of their fabric, I would not hesitate to purchase more shirts from IC. However, unless I <em>really</em> loved the pattern of a suit, I&#8217;d think twice before I purchased another suit from IC.</p>
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		<title>Give Your Luggage an Upgrade</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CYH</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brief guide on how to upgrade your luggage. From your weekend bag to your carry on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next on the stylistic upgrade list, is choosing your luggage. Don&#8217;t scoff. I know it seems like this is totally insignificant, but it doesn&#8217;t take that much effort to turn something every other guy ignores into a chance for somebody (hopefully hot) to say &#8220;look at <em>that</em> guy.&#8221; And sometimes that&#8217;s all we need to close.</p>
<p>First, decide what you need it for and how many pieces you want to purchase. If you mostly take weekend trips, just grab a cool carry-on bag and be done with it. It&#8217;s inexpensive and easy. </p>
<p>To be completely covered, you&#8217;ll need something to check-in and carry-on. These don&#8217;t have to match. In fact, I prefer it if they don&#8217;t. This is one of those situations where you don&#8217;t want to show how much effort/thought you put into the decision. Yes, putting effort into not looking like you put effort is sort of dumb. But, it gets results.</p>
<p>So, here&#8217;s how to ditch that black roller bag.</p>
<p><strong>Weekend Bag</strong><br />
For a carry-on, I&#8217;d go with a duffle-style bag. I really dislike rolling bags as carry-ons. There&#8217;s just no style in the look. And if you&#8217;re going on a weekend trip you really shouldn&#8217;t be packing too heavy. </p>
<p>Typically, you want to go with a durable fabric option like leather or canvas, because it will age well. I tend to stray away from ballistic nylon, even though it&#8217;s super durable. It just doesn&#8217;t look as good.</p>
<p>Fossil actually has some cool looking bags. This leather bag from them has an amazing price for genuine leather and it&#8217;s got an absolute classic style that you can&#8217;t go wrong with. Go with brown as the patina and wear from traveling will impart some great character.</p>
<div id="attachment_1538" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/fossil_weekend_bag.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/fossil_weekend_bag-300x300.jpg" alt="" title="fossil_weekend_bag" width="300" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-1538" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit: <a href='http://www.fossil.com/en_US/shop/men/bags/travel_bags/transit_duffle-mbg8236p.html?parent_category_rn=30011&#038;departmentCategoryId=30001&#038;N=0&#038;Ns=p_msc5%7C0%7C%7Cp_weight%7C0&#038;pn=c&#038;cm_vc=288418&#038;rec=3&#038;imagePath=MBG8236001'>Fossil</a></p></div>
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<p>This is my weekend bag that I use extensively. It&#8217;s perfect. It has a nice masculine style yet is really easy and comfortable to carry around.</p>
<div id="attachment_1537" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/lands_end_canvas_weekend_bag.png"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/lands_end_canvas_weekend_bag-300x198.png" alt="" title="lands_end_canvas_weekend_bag" width="300" height="198" class="size-medium wp-image-1537" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit:<a href ='http://canvas.landsend.com/pp/canvas-1963-trip-bag~212472_-1.html?bcc=y&#038;action=order_more&#038;sku_0=::MSM&#038;CM_MERCH=IDX_men-_-shoes-accessories-_-bags&#038;origin=index'>Lands&#039; End Canvas</a></p></div>
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<p>It doesn&#8217;t get manlier than this. Hell, the canvas is called &#8220;Fire Hose canvas.&#8221;</p>
<div id="attachment_1536" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 405px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/duluth_awol_bag.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/duluth_awol_bag.jpg" alt="" title="duluth_awol_bag" width="395" height="395" class="size-full wp-image-1536" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit: <a href='http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/mens-accessories/mens-bags-briefcases/87002.aspx'>Duluth</a></p></div>
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<p><strong>Checked Luggage</strong><br />
For a large check-in bag, I prefer ones with a harder outer shell. They protect your things from just about any punishment the airports dish out. I also find that a large one is perfect for keeping my sportcoats/suit jacket wrinkle-free.</p>
<p>Just make sure you get one with four spinning wheels and heavy duty clasps or zippers (these usually are the first things to go). I lugged one around Italy one summer that only had 2 inline wheels and hated myself about 1 minute into my trip.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one from Muji that I really like. Great price with a perfect simplistic design.<br />
<div id="attachment_1535" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/muji_hardside.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/muji_hardside.jpg" alt="" title="muji_hardside" width="400" height="400" class="size-full wp-image-1535" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit: <a href='http://www.muji.us/store/hard-carry-travel-suitcase-56l.html'>Muji</a></p></div></p>
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<p>This Samsonite is a solid no-nonsense option with a pleasant price.<br />
<div id="attachment_1543" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 250px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/samsonite_hardside.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/samsonite_hardside.jpg" alt="" title="samsonite_hardside" width="240" height="240" class="size-full wp-image-1543" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit: <a href='http://www.zappos.com/samsonite-flite-gt-30-hardside-upright-black'>Zappos</a></p></div></p>
<p>Tumi is on the high-end side but their luggage is virtually indestructible.<br />
<div id="attachment_1534" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/tumi_hardside.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/tumi_hardside.jpg" alt="" title="tumi_hardside" width="400" height="486" class="size-full wp-image-1534" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit: <a href='http://www.tumi.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4063101&#038;prodFindSrc=paramNav'>Tumi</a></p></div></p>
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		<title>Trouser Love for the Big Fellas.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CYH</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received an email recommendation for a company that specializes in Big and Tall clothing for men, which reminded me that the big guys need some style love as well. As I&#8217;ve mentioned <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=166">before</a>, just because you&#8217;re a larger guy doesn&#8217;t mean that you can just throw on some baggy clothing and call it a day. Even if you&#8217;re a B&#038;T you&#8217;ll need to watch the tailoring and <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?cat=14">fit</a> of your clothing. The idea is that baggy or ill-fitting clothing will make you look bigger, for <em>any</em> body type. It isn&#8217;t so much that tailored clothing will be slimming, but more that it won&#8217;t accentuate a B&#038;Ts size any more than necessary.<br />
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<a href="http://www.kingsizedirect.com">King Size Direct big and tall mens clothing</a> specializes in clothes for the B&#038;T set, and I was able to find a surprising amount of quality pants and trousers. </p>
<p>Here are a few great picks for season-specific B&#038;T clothing from KSD:</p>
<p>Great cotton chinos that come in a ton of different colors. Notice how there&#8217;s no ballooning out of the cotton fabric and even though they&#8217;re big and talls, that the lines are still sleek.<br />
<div id="attachment_1408" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 240px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/WrinkleFreeBigandTallTrousers.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/WrinkleFreeBigandTallTrousers.jpg" alt="" title="WrinkleFreeBigandTallTrousers" width="230" height="331" class="size-full wp-image-1408" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo Credit: King Size Direct.</p></div></p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s another pair of dress trousers that lack that extra bunching of typical of big and talls.<br />
<div id="attachment_1409" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 240px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/BigandTallFlatFrontTrousers.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/BigandTallFlatFrontTrousers.jpg" alt="" title="BigandTallFlatFrontTrousers" width="230" height="331" class="size-full wp-image-1409" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo Credit: King Size Direct.</p></div></p>
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<p>I&#8217;ve written previously about avoiding pleated trousers like the plague, but now the rules get a bit hazy. If you&#8217;re the &#8216;B&#8217; in B&#038;T, flat front pants can look a bit odd on you. There&#8217;s too much uninterrupted fabric around your crotch region. So, it&#8217;s OK to go with a pleat (or 2, or 3) in order to accomplish a sleek profile.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a pair of pleated trousers that still look pretty stylish:<br />
<div id="attachment_1406" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 281px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/BigandTallPleatedTrousers.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/BigandTallPleatedTrousers.jpg" alt="" title="BigandTallPleatedTrousers" width="271" height="390" class="size-full wp-image-1406" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit: King Size Direct.</p></div></p>
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<p>So, if you&#8217;re a B&#038;T stick with trousers/pants that emulate the ones above and you&#8217;ll see a world of difference. Fear not. Even though they lack a lot of the excess fabric that you may be accustomed to, they should still be comfortable (an important point according to my B&#038;T friends).</p>
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		<title>Felt + Leather = Awesome.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CYH</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just purchased the new 13&#8243; Macbook Air (b-t-dub, unbelievable machine) and wanted a sleeve to protect it from my abuse. I cannot stand bland (black) neoprene sleeves, or really anything from the Apple Store. Frankly, nowadays I find it a bit overwhelming just walking into an Apple Store. So, I was on the lookout<a href="http://primergreyblog.com/accessories/felt-leather-awesome/">...Read the Rest</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just purchased the new 13&#8243; Macbook Air (b-t-dub, <em>unbelievable</em> machine) and wanted a sleeve to protect it from my abuse. I cannot stand bland (black) neoprene sleeves, or really anything from the Apple Store. Frankly, nowadays I find it a bit overwhelming just walking into an Apple Store. So, I was on the lookout for something unique and cool (even if the only people who will ever see my sleeve are TSA employees). I searched all over and finally stumbled upon Byrd and Belle&#8217;s Etsy <a href="http://www.etsy.com/shop/byrdandbelle?ref=seller_info">shop</a>. They are making some really cool protective accessory sleeves out of felted wool and leather. The combination and execution is one of those odd looks that can be simultaneously decidedly masculine and feminine (don&#8217;t ask me how). </p>
<p>For added cool, you can customize your sleeve using different felt and leather colors, so I opted for tan leather with their gunmetal felt. I also asked Angie to add the straps that are present in their Macbook Pro sleeves onto mine. After two weeks, I just received my new sleeve. Flippin&#8217; love it. </p>
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<p>Their shop has sleeves for other Mac products (man, wish I had purchased her iPad sleeve as opposed to my <a href="http://www.dodocase.com/">Dodocase</a>). Below are examples of their iPad and iPhone sleeves.</p>
<div id="attachment_1387" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 580px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ByrdBelleIpad2.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ByrdBelleIpad2.jpg" alt="" title="ByrdBelleIpad2" width="570" height="570" class="size-full wp-image-1387" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo Credit: <a href='http://www.etsy.com/listing/62680084/ipad-sleeve-graphite-grey-wool-felt-with'>Byrd and Belle.</a></p></div>
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<div id="attachment_1386" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 580px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ByrdBelleiPhone.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ByrdBelleiPhone.jpg" alt="" title="ByrdBelleiPhone" width="570" height="570" class="size-full wp-image-1386" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo Credit: <a href='http://www.etsy.com/listing/62152172/iphone-case-grey-wool-felt-and-brown'>Byrd and Belle.</a></p></div>
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<p>Felt + leather has become increasingly popular these days, but Byrd and Belle&#8217;s prices are surprisingly reasonable for handmade items, so check them out. </p>
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		<title>Cool It – Dressing for Fall &amp; Winter.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 20:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CYH</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Primer for men on dressing for colder months. Topics include color palette choice and textures.]]></description>
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<p>I know it may seem obvious, but as the temperature changes so too should your wardrobe. Guys, this does not mean putting a long sleeve tshirt under your existing summer wardrobe or wearing your trusty 8-year old coat from Macys/Wilsons/Burlington. Dressing for each season goes way beyond wearing temperature-specific clothing. There are subtle idiosyncrasies for each season and a big part of looking put together is understanding the underlying style rules so that you don&#8217;t look out of place for whichever occasion you&#8217;re getting shiny for.</p>
<p>Sooooo…my cold weather = Central Texas cold weather, more akin to fall in the Northeast/Midwest and not NE/MW winters. I&#8217;ve several times ended up on my back in the middle of DC sidewalks when it&#8217;s snowing out because I insist on wearing my boots from Texas (*hint: they&#8217;re not designed with snow in mind). Definitely not an expert on full-blown winters.</p>
<p><strong>Colors</strong></p>
<p>Color palette is drastically different in the colder months compared to the warmer months. Think earthy warm tones for when it&#8217;s cold out as opposed to brighter color tones. This means no pastel-ish colored shirts. Your skin will have a naturally paler tone in the colder months which does not compliment the brighter colors well. </p>
<p>This does not mean you only dress in brown, grey, and black. All you need do is adjust the hues of your favorite colors towards the darker side of the scale. If you like green, just choose a shade closer to the forest green end of the spectrum. This is helped by the fact that it is very common for cold weather garments to use heathering, which is just incorporating flecks of grey into fabric to subtly darken the color. See the above <strong>awesome</strong> graphic (a big ol&#8217; thanks to Ms. JCH) which illustrates how color hue is dependent upon outdoor temperature.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re doing your post-Christmas shopping now, you&#8217;re in luck because most men&#8217;s stores will only have their Fall line out right now which by default will only incorporate muted colors.</p>
<p><strong>Patterns</strong></p>
<p>Just as with the warmer months, go ahead and opt for a nice <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=501">pattern</a> with your tops. Plaid right now is incredibly popular, simply because it&#8217;s awesome. Fall/winter plaid are deeper in color than what you&#8217;d find in spring/summer offerings. Be careful though, if it evokes images of lumberjacks go ahead and avoid it. Most modern big-box brands make some fantastic plaid shirts that are very stylish. I think that JCrew is making the coolest shirts out there.</p>
<div id="attachment_1355" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 403px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/jcrew_plaid.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/jcrew_plaid.jpg" alt="" title="jcrew_plaid" width="393" height="393" class="size-full wp-image-1355" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo Credit: <a href='http://www.jcrew.com/mens_category/shirts/washedfavoriteshirts/PRDOVR~28222/28222.jsp'>JCrew.</a></p></div>
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<p>These usually are casual shirts, but you can easily dress it up. Throw on a dark solid tie (see more below) to contrast with the pattern of the plaid shirt. Pair this with dark jeans, brown belt and shoes and I promise you that at least one person will comment on your outfit. Honestly, this is one of the coolest looks that a guy can wear. It&#8217;s a modern take on a very masculine look. More examples of this look can be found <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=1047">here</a> and <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=1059">here</a>.</p>
<p>Advanced move: do exactly what I said above, but while wearing a suit. Make sure that the suit has a modern <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=686">cut</a>. This works especially well with grey, blue, and brown suits. As a word of caution, do NOT wear this on formal occasions.</p>
<p><strong>Textures</strong></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t scoff! Texture is actually very important. Just like color choices, each season has a texture that just feels right. I think that it&#8217;s a visceral thing for most people. You know these rules, you&#8217;re just not necessarily aware of them</p>
<p>When it&#8217;s colder out you&#8217;ll want to go for the more substantial and rougher fabrics: thick wool sweaters, corduroy, and wool sport coats. These heavier fabrics are functionally significant and just look right. </p>
<p>Before I forget (this is a biggie), when wearing corduroy try very <strong>very</strong> hard to avoid thick waled cords (wale = how wide the ridges in the corduroy are). This is true if the corduroy are pants/jackets/underwear.</p>
<p>An easy way to add some well-needed texture is in your tie. In the outfit I mention above, go ahead and opt for a wool or knit tie to the combination. This immediately adds another dimension to your outfit and makes it all the more appealing. The tiebar.com is an incredibly great resource for stocking up on ties in general.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re just building your wardrobe go for the staples: that means solid grey and blue wool ties.</p>
<div id="attachment_1377" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 305px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/grey_wool_tie.png"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/grey_wool_tie.png" alt="" title="grey_wool_tie" width="295" height="342" class="size-full wp-image-1377" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo Credit: <a href = 'http://www.thetiebar.com/order_page.asp?pn=22343&#038;orderPageReturn=%2FcategoryPages%2FSkinny%5FTies%5FWool%2Easp&#038;pg=1&#038;i=37&#038;xlOnly=&#038;boysTiesOnly='>The Tie Bar.</a></p></div>
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<div id="attachment_1378" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 313px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/navy_wool_tie.png"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/navy_wool_tie.png" alt="" title="navy_wool_tie" width="303" height="352" class="size-full wp-image-1378" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo Credit: <a href='http://www.thetiebar.com/order_page.asp?pn=32724&#038;orderPageReturn=%2FcategoryPages%2FSkinny%5FTies%5FWool%2Easp&#038;pg=1&#038;i=12&#038;xlOnly=&#038;boysTiesOnly='>The Tie Bar.</a></p></div>
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<p>Those are the opening rules for dressing for the colder months. I know some of them may seem self-evident or trivial, but once you incorporate them into outfit ideas (more to come) you&#8217;ll see what I mean. Plus, it makes putting outfits together a bit more fun since it becomes a puzzle. Yes, more fun. Don&#8217;t judge.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why American men shouldn't wear a neckerchief *shudder*.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_1341" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 255px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/fred_edit.gif"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/fred_edit.gif" alt="" title="fred_edit" width="245" height="427" class="size-full wp-image-1341" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Ruh-Roh.</p></div>
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<p>Yes, it&#8217;s been awhile. </p>
<p>Call it a fashionable absence. Or lack of time and creativity (blegh).</p>
<p>But! I&#8217;m getting back into the swing of things.</p>
<p>I just came across this blog post by <a href="http://getkempt.com/good-idea/the-body-the-man.php">Kempt</a> (great post, especially the last paragraph which sums up the <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=166">motivation</a> behind PG), in response to an article by <a href="http://www.mensflair.com/style-advice/the-long-and-the-short-of-it-–-neckerchiefs.php">Men&#8217;s Flair</a> regarding Carey Grant and his love for a neckerchief in <em>To Catch a Thief</em>. This particular post really struck a cord, as I&#8217;ve been reading more and more about this bogus style phenomenon. Now, I&#8217;m not one to have style icons, but Carey Grant is about as close as it has come for me (him and <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=199">Bond</a>). However, this is a look that you just don&#8217;t want to duplicate.</p>
<p>Let me repeat. This look will <em>not</em> work for you.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too effeminate. Lord, the name alone makes me cringe. </p>
<p>Yes, Italian men can pull it off. Yes, Italian men are consistently considered to be style gods. But, we&#8217;re <em>American</em> men. Our style is a no-nonsense blend of confidence and masculinity. The neckerchief does not fit this bill. All it does is introduce flair. Which, for most guys, isn&#8217;t a good thing. We don&#8217;t want flair in our outfits. We want style. We want masculinity. And we exude both of these things with a sense of controlled expression.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t to say you should be opposed to throwing in some punk into your outfit. I&#8217;m all for that. Nobody wants to look like a square. The difference is that the little dash of punk should still send the right message. Say it with your <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=784">tie</a>, color choice, socks, tshirt, or the fit of your clothes. Just don&#8217;t say it with a neckerchief.</p>
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		<title>I’ve Gone Cardigan, and I’m Not Going Back.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve finally taken the plunge and purchased my first (and second) cardigan. Sort of an odd thing to celebrate, but, hear me out. I know I&#8217;m not exactly blazing a style trail here, but I can&#8217;t believe it took me so long to pull the trigger. With the new modern fit of cardigans, it has<a href="http://primergreyblog.com/shirts/ive-gone-cardigan-and-im-not-going-back/">...Read the Rest</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve finally taken the plunge and purchased my first (and second) cardigan. Sort of an odd thing to celebrate, but, hear me out. I know I&#8217;m not exactly blazing a style trail here, but I can&#8217;t believe it took me so long to pull the trigger. </p>
<p>With the new modern fit of cardigans, it has definitely jumped into cool territory from old-man-sweater region, provided you wear it correctly.</p>
<p>The key to pulling off the look, as with all tops, is proportion and keeping it slim. This is especially important for the cardigan, because if it doesn&#8217;t have a modern fit you&#8217;ll really look like a square. Make sure it&#8217;s lightweight, and slim fitting. The nature of the sweater (just meant for cooler weather) means you really should just have one button down/tshirt underneath it, so you don&#8217;t need a lot of give in the fit.</p>
<p>Since, this is more of a hip clothing item (weird, huh?), it&#8217;s especially important that the rest of your outfit is suitably modern. Otherwise you&#8217;ll look like you only have enough style to pay attention to the one piece. I wrote about this for the sportcoat and jeans <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=862">post</a>.</p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s Awesome About It</strong></p>
<p>The look is very geek chic, which may or may not appeal to you, but based on anecdotal evidence girls totally dig the look. Just don&#8217;t forget the &#8220;chic&#8221; aspect. </p>
<p>Also, the look is killer, because it isn&#8217;t <em>too</em> stylistically advanced, but you&#8217;ll still immediately step out from the crowd.</p>
<p><strong>How To Wear It</strong></p>
<p>Wear it as you would a modern <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?s=sportcoat&#038;x=0&#038;y=0">sportcoat</a>. Over a patterned button down, tshirt, or throw on a tie with it. Just keep everything modern. Slim <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=244">jeans</a>, <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=784">tie</a>, and <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=199">shirt</a>.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to button it all the time, since it looks equally cool unbuttoned. If you do button, remember as with a <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=1016">vest</a>, do not button the last button.</p>
<p><strong>Options</strong></p>
<p>Keep the colors neutral. You don&#8217;t need to make a statement with the color.<br />
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<p>Not a bad price for a cashmere blend.<br />
<div id="attachment_1322" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/jcrew_cardigan.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/jcrew_cardigan-300x300.jpg" alt="" title="jcrew_cardigan" width="300" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-1322" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit: <a href='http://www.jcrew.com/AST/Browse/MensBrowse/Men_Shop_By_Category/sweaters/cottoncashmere/PRDOVR~17183/17183.jsp'>JCrew.</a></p></div></p>
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<p>Keep the cardigan simple.<br />
<div id="attachment_1321" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 235px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/gap_cardigan.jpg"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/gap_cardigan-225x300.jpg" alt="" title="gap_cardigan" width="225" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-1321" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit: <a href='http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=5180&#038;vid=1&#038;pid=684904&#038;scid=684904002'>Gap.</a></p></div></p>
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<p>I promise, if you wear it with the right top, you won&#8217;t look this hipster.<br />
<div id="attachment_1320" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 187px"><a href="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/UO_cardigan.png"><img src="http://primergreyblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/UO_cardigan-177x300.png" alt="" title="UO_cardigan" width="177" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-1320" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo credit: <a href='http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/urban/catalog/productdetail.jsp?itemdescription=true&#038;itemCount=60&#038;startValue=1&#038;selectedProductColor=&#038;sortby=&#038;id=16639213&#038;parentid=M_APP_CARDIGANS&#038;sortProperties=+subCategoryPosition,+product.marketingPriority,-product.startDate&#038;navCount=72&#038;navAction=poppushpush&#038;color=&#038;pushId=M_APP_CARDIGANS&#038;popId=MENS_APPAREL&#038;prepushId=&#038;selectedProductSize'>Urban Outfitters.</a></p></div></p>
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		<title>Chinos, I’m Quitting You.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CYH</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My February Resolution? I&#8217;m done with chinos. I&#8217;ve said it before, but this time I mean it. I&#8217;m going to stop trying to make them look cool, and stop forcing myself into believing I can make them work. It&#8217;s just too hard. I made the decision this morning as I was browsing through M+O&#8217;s new<a href="http://primergreyblog.com/theory/chinos-im-quitting-you/">...Read the Rest</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My February Resolution? I&#8217;m done with chinos. I&#8217;ve said it before, but this time I mean it. I&#8217;m going to stop trying to make them look cool, and stop forcing myself into believing I can make them work. It&#8217;s just too hard.</p>
<p>I made the decision this morning as I was browsing through M+O&#8217;s new <a href="http://www.martinandosa.com/web/browse/category.jsp?catId=cat30105&#038;cid=MAO_Email_100218_0&#038;om_rid=LN2tVE&#038;om_mid=_BLgp7LB748ihOB&#038;">offering</a> of chinos and almost got sucked in, again.</p>
<p>Chinos have to fit perfectly. Because of the heft of the fabric there is less room for error with chinos than with jeans. Too baggy and you look WAY slobby. They have to be perfectly slim fitting. But even when they fit perfectly, they <em>still</em> don&#8217;t look right. That&#8217;s why chinos are so evil.</p>
<p>The problem is that chinos are supposed to fill that weird gap between jeans and trousers. The only problem is that they do it so poorly, you might as well just opt for the other choices.</p>
<p>You always end up looking *too* preppy. Too shiny. While PG strives to look clean and put together, there&#8217;s always a hint of attitude thrown in. Even if it&#8217;s in the subtle pairing of colors or textures. With chinos, you don&#8217;t have that. There&#8217;s no grunge, no character. It&#8217;s like you stepped right out of a Gap ad. It&#8217;s too vanilla.</p>
<p>But, dear reader, you may say &#8220;wait, what about those great JCrew outfits in their catalogs?&#8221; Lies. All of them. They look fantastic on paper, but in practice it&#8217;s almost impossible to pull off without looking like you actually work at JCrew. It&#8217;s too contrived.</p>
<p>Chinos are not stylish. </p>
<p>Phew. There. I&#8217;ve said it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having just completed a couple of rounds of interviews, I thought I&#8217;d do a quick post on proper attire. Conventional wisdom here is to dress for one level above the job that you want. This can be tricky though, so really tailor it to the job/firm that you&#8217;re applying to. This was brought up in<a href="http://primergreyblog.com/dress/subtly-awesome-interview-attire/">...Read the Rest</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just completed a couple of rounds of interviews, I thought I&#8217;d do a quick post on proper attire. Conventional wisdom here is to dress for one level above the job that you want. This can be tricky though, so really tailor it to the job/firm that you&#8217;re applying to.</p>
<p>This was brought up in the <a href="http://primergreyblog.com/?p=1168">power jeans</a> article, in that some companies actually frown on suiting up for an interview. In an article over at <a href="http://wetfeet.com/Experienced-Hire/Getting-hired/Articles/12-Ways-to-Make-a-Bad-First-Impression—and-How-Rec.aspx">Wetfeet</a>, the author actually had a pretty solid suggestion if it&#8217;s local: go stalker and camp out at the office to see what the majority of the workers there are wearing.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t tackle the outliers, and will instead focus on the more typical business environment.</p>
<p>The general idea is to strike a balance between not looking like everybody else, but also not looking like you&#8217;re trying too hard. Your appearance undoubtedly plays a large role in you landing that job (or else a dress code wouldn&#8217;t even be in the equation), so showing that you possess some taste and the ability to not be a lemming could go far. The interviewer may not jot down &#8220;killer suit &amp; tie combo&#8221;, but subconsciously you&#8217;ve already made an impression &#8211; everybody likes pretty things.</p>
<p><strong>The Interview Suit</strong></p>
<p>A few comments:</p>
<p>- Do not wear a black suit<br />
- Steer clear from pinstripes (a subtle chalk-stripe is ok)<br />
- Go for darker colors</p>
<p>This leaves you with a dark grey or charcoal grey suit. This is one place you do NOT want to stand out. Let the fit of your suit and the shirt &amp; tie combo do the talking.</p>
<p>Speaking of your shirt and tie combination:</p>
<p>- Stray away from french cuff shirts; a button cuff is more subtle<br />
- No contrast shirts with the white collars<br />
- Color is fine (in fact encouraged), just nothing that is blindingly bright; as with tequila, moderation is key</p>
<p><strong>Business Casual Interviews</strong></p>
<p>The first interview was labeled as business casual, with suits being optional. But, knowing the culture and the reputation as a firm, there was no way I was going in sans-suit. But, the key is to not overdue it. There&#8217;s a reason they said business casual.</p>
<p>I knew the majority of guys would opt for khakis (pleated) and a white or blue shirt with a gold tie. Or, khakis, white or blue shirt, and blue blazer.</p>
<p>My thinking is that I wanted to distinguish myself from the crowd, but not in a &#8220;hey, look at me&#8221; sort of way. The idea is to look different, but in a good, and almost more importantly, appropriate way. So, I decided to go with a suit but ditch the tie, and pair it with a nice sweater with a button down underneath.</p>
<p>I opted for a dark charcoal modern suit from Banana. A reasonably priced suit with a nice modern fit (the tailor was amazed how well it fit off the rack). I next added a dark navy, fine merino wool sweater, over a grey button down. The look was modern, and put together.</p>
<p>Arriving at interview day I was surprised to see that 50% of us were in suits (it was a group session), while the rest were exactly how I had envisioned them.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t own an interview suit, then nice trousers and a tie will go a long way. Just avoid the standard khaki + white/blue shirt uniform. You want to show your prospective employers that you can take the rules they&#8217;ve given you and appropriately make it your own.</p>
<p><strong>Business Formal</strong></p>
<p>For round 2, the dress code was business formal. This means suit up. I had the same motivation here, stand out, but in a good way. I knew that the majority of guys would be in charcoal suits with either a blue or white shirt, and undoubtedly with a gold tie. There was no way I was going to look like a 60 year old Republican Senator. I&#8217;m young and cool, and this is a big f-ing deal, so I needed something suitably cool.</p>
<p>This was a tough selection for me, because I  knew what I wanted but the stores didn&#8217;t have exactly it. I ended up settling on a purple and white micro-check shirt (subtle thin purple lines), with a point collar, and paired it with a thin beautiful royal purple tie. I recycled my grey suit from the first interview.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t touched on collar choices, but go with a point or a spread collar for an occasion like this. This means avoid the classic button down collar. Historically button-down collars are more for casual wear, but regardless it is visually more appealing to have a nice point collar.</p>
<p>Take home: when going with a suit, it&#8217;s OK to go with a nice pattern shirt. Pair it with a tie in the same color family and you&#8217;ve got a very sharp combination.</p>
<p>Remember, it is your goal to be attractive to the company. Both from an intellectual standpoint (which your resume already provided) and a physical standpoint (why it isn&#8217;t a phone interview). So, put some thought into what you&#8217;re putting on.</p>
<p>Oh, and the combination of the patterned shirt + solid tie looked awesome. Heading to the airport that afternoon the crosswalk dude (yes, it was a dude…bite me), and the metal detector lady both complimented me on how I looked. And if that&#8217;s not success, I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
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