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			<title>What are you PiP payments?</title>
			<link>http://priuschat.com/forums/dealers-pricing/109909-what-you-pip-payments.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 14:44:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>For those financing or leasing what are you paying per month? 
 
I plan on putting a decent amount down to keep my payment around $300 or so for...</description>
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			<dc:creator>Pasaman</dc:creator>
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			<title>2010 Prius 1  for 19995? good deal?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 15:27:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>i live in sacramento and saw this blue ribbon prius 1(clean carfax report and good condition)  at a dealership. It has 44k on it and priced for...</description>
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			<title>Buying my first Prius</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 13:36:40 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello! My fiancee and I are planning on getting a prius to replace the old 99' jeep we have now. We have a maximum limit of $20,000 and I'm hoping to...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Hello! My fiancee and I are planning on getting a prius to replace the old 99' jeep we have now. We have a maximum limit of $20,000 and I'm hoping to get the best possible for that. Due to getting some monetary help from the fiancee's parents, we are locked into buying from a dealer and it must be either new or certified pre-owned. <br />
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The dealers around us seem to have only a handful of 2008/2009 prius's under that number.<br />
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I've seen a number of 2010-2012's that are just over that marker. How feasible do you think it is to haggle for a standard trim prius Gen II or C for 2-3k less than the listed price? I have no experience with buying a vehicle from a dealer before (only having bought a used car years ago from a family friend with the help of a mechanic friend).<br />
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Also, with the 2008/2009's we were worried about the reports of HID headlamps failing and the high cost associated with replacing those. Is it possible or feasible to request that the prius not have those? They seem to be standard but I do not know if it is possible or affordable to have the headlamps changed to something that doesn't have a high failure rate.<br />
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Thank you! We'll do our best to respond to you all and keep you up to date with what we get!<br />
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Edit: I figured I'd ask some more specific questions.<br />
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I've heard the new 2013 Prius's will be starting at under $19k. Can I use this information to get a lower price on the older models? A place near us has a 2009 Prius, standard listed for a little over 20k. It only has 35k miles on it and looks to have had regular oil changes and no accidents/other issues. It doesn't look to have gotten any tire rotations according to carfax, should I ask about that?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></div>

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			<title>2007 for $16,000 good??</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 14:35:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Local dealership, where a good friend of mine works, just got in a 2007 2 or 3 not sure yet with about 35K miles on it and he said he thinks it will...</description>
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Is that a good price for the 5 year old car? Low miles which is good. He is a long time friend so he said he will sell it to me as low as the dealership will possibly let him so thats a plus on my side.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></div>

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			<title>Prius V MSRP</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 19:54:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Couldn't find good info on this specific topic. So far all I'm running into 
with my Prius V search is MRSP. Is this to be expected?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Couldn't find good info on this specific topic. So far all I'm running into<br />
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			<title>Rent charge on a lease</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 04:28:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Figured out $ factor</description>
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			<title>Price paid for plug-in?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 05:49:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>How much did people here pay for their base prius plug-in?   
 
Think there is any shot of getting it under MSRP?</description>
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			<title>2008 for $20,000, worth it?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 00:02:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm new to the Prius. I really want to get one. Havent considered it until recently, but I think its a real option fo me. I found a 2008 with 53K...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I'm new to the Prius. I really want to get one. Havent considered it until recently, but I think its a real option fo me. I found a 2008 with 53K miles , has the LCD monitor (GPS), hands free bluetooth for $20,000. It seems to be in good condition. Its at a local Toyota dealer, and is certified. Just curious if thats a decent deal? Opinions? Thoughts?<br />
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			<title>Cost to Purchase PIP??</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 15:40:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>2 quick questions regarding PIP purchases: 
 
1) I see many people now have purchased the PIP. What have dealers been charging? I am assuming most...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->2 quick questions regarding PIP purchases:<br />
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1) I see many people now have purchased the PIP. What have dealers been charging? I am assuming most people are paying MSRP or even above MSRP-- is this the case?<br />
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2) What are dealers doing with trade in values for previously purchased prius (eg. we have a 2010 with only 7k).<br />
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I am just trying to figure out how much I should expect to pay.<br />
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			<title>How Well Is The PIP Selling?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 04:06:51 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I just checked the site of the dealer I bought my Prius from and they have 7 PIP's.]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>El Dobro</dc:creator>
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			<title>Are online pricing sites a good measure of actual price?</title>
			<link>http://priuschat.com/forums/dealers-pricing/108705-online-pricing-sites-good-measure-actual-price.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 23:50:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm looking to buy a Prius at the of this month (doesn't HAVE to be this month but I would prefer it). I'm in the Baltimore-Washington corridor. I...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I'm looking to buy a Prius at the of this month (doesn't HAVE to be this month but I would prefer it). I'm in the Baltimore-Washington corridor. I recently started checking prices. I could go for a Prius II, Prius III, Prius V (2 or 3). I'm using <b>Prius II</b> in this example for my zip code. Here are some of prices I've seen on various sites.<br />
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<b>CarsDirect</b><ul><li>MSRP PRICING:$24,760</li>
<li>INVOICE PRICING:$23,770</li>
<li>Target Price: $24,170</li>
</ul><b>TrueCar</b> (free version)<ul><li>Target Price: 24,426</li>
</ul><b>Kelly Blue Book</b><ul><li>MSRP: 24,760</li>
<li>Fair: 23,787</li>
<li>Dealer: 23,320</li>
</ul><b>Carwoo.com</b><ul><li>$22,790 - $23,523 (yeah right!)</li>
</ul><b>Consumer Reports</b> (paid version powered by <b>TrueCar</b>)<ul><li>MSRP Base 24,000</li>
<li>MSRP Total: 24,760 (760 Destination Fee)</li>
<li>Dealer Base Invoice: 22,560</li>
<li>Dealer Total Invoice: 23,826 (760 Dest Fee + 506 Regional Ad Fee)</li>
<li>Dealer Total Invoice Minus Holdback: 23,346 (-480)</li>
<li>Target Price (aka Great Price): 24,326</li>
<li>Good Price: 24,520</li>
<li>Market Average: 24,359</li>
</ul>CR says start negotiating at 23,346 because this is theoretically what it costs the dealer. I was surprised to see that the KBB deal price is very close to the CR (powered by TrueCar) price. <br />
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I looked at the recent pricing thread and found a few sales in MD and VA for a Prius II<ul><li>02/24/2012 - 22,974 - MD</li>
<li>02/27/2012 - 23,878 - MD</li>
<li>03/12/2012 - 23,671 - VA</li>
<li>03/25/2012 - 24,316 - VA</li>
</ul>Either everyone on here is an above average negotiator or all those site's good/great/target prices are crap since most of those prices are near 23,346. It is also a very small sample to work with. <br />
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23,750 plus the dealer processing/<b>PROFIT</b> fee of 199 seems fair which is still 300-500 less than the TrueCar target price which seems to be the average selling price for the area.<br />
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I haven't done the email all the dealers in the area thing yet but I will towards the last 7 days of the month. Now this may not work out as well as I hope since it is a major holiday weekend where there might be tons of foot traffic on the lots which could mean above average sales and dealers may be less willing to go for lower prices.<br />
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My wife did go to some dealers in person which I refuse to do until I'm bringing a check with me. One place my wife visited listed their ePrices at 22,860 with a MSRP of 24,985. The ePrice seems like a scam. This is also the place that said they'd give 500 off and 1.9% financing. The 500 off is ONLY for military and the 1.9% financing actually expired the next day (end of April). Both of these were documented on their web site but the sales people failed to mention either of these stipulations. They didn't lie but they also didn't tell the complete truth. This is why I don't go to dealers until the end. I'll either pay cash or get a loan through my credit union.<br />
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In summary 23,950 (+128 for reg, +100 for title, +1437 for 6% tax = 25,615) seem like it should be a fair price for my area according to the web sites I've looked at. Am I being fair or are the web sites just not that good of a measure for pricing?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></div>

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			<title>Private Gap Insurance</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 13:27:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I am looking to buy a Prius 2 and need GAP insurance. My auto insurance doesn't provide it.  Does anyone know where I can find a private company that...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I am looking to buy a Prius 2 and need GAP insurance. My auto insurance doesn't provide it.  Does anyone know where I can find a private company that will sell it without switching to their insurance?  I've gotten quotes from Progressive and AM FAM and they are both almost twice what I'm paying now, just for insurance.<br />
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			<title>Financing: Am i getting a good deal?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 03:38:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I checked out the C1 today at the New Rochelle Toyota dealership. They priced the C1 at $19935. The total after taxes and fees was $21,801.73. I have...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I checked out the C1 today at the New Rochelle Toyota dealership. They priced the C1 at $19935. The total after taxes and fees was $21,801.73. I have a 784 credit score and was told an interest rate of 4.33% was the best they could do. With $2000 down my monthly payments are going to be $317 for 72 months. <br />
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Does this sound good, or should i do a bit more shopping around? They told me the C is selling for over MSRP because of the high demand.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Trade in '11 Prius III for a '12 Prius C?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 19:54:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I saw the Prius C the other day and absolutely love the interior compared to my 2011 Prius III.  I decided that I want to trade in and get it.  My...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I saw the Prius C the other day and absolutely love the interior compared to my 2011 Prius III.  I decided that I want to trade in and get it.  My car is 9 months old with 11,500 miles.  I paid $26,500 for it in July (when demand was super high with supplies low).  <br />
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The dealership is only offering me $19,300 for the trade in.  That seems ridiculously low.  Kelly Blue Book is saying I should be getting $23-24k for the trade.  Does it sound like I am getting ripped off?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></div>

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			<dc:creator>Phish0742</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[I'm really confused PIP price. Please help me!]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 22:23:38 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi, 
  
I'm trying to buy PIP right now but most of souther california dealers told me I should pay $2,000 more than msrp. 
However, I saw that some...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Hi,<br />
 <br />
I'm trying to buy PIP right now but most of souther california dealers told me I should pay $2,000 more than msrp.<br />
However, I saw that some dealers are selling PIP less than msrp.<br />
I'm really confused right now.<br />
What's the reasonable price I can buy it?<br />
Thanks.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></div>

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