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			<title>2009 chevy cobalt xfe  (25/37 mpg)</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:01:20 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm in the process of buying this car right now.  Here's my experience: 
  
We had a second prius on waitlist and we were going to get it for msrp,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I'm in the process of buying this car right now.  Here's my experience:<br />
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We had a second prius on waitlist and we were going to get it for msrp, but the dealership said they were not getting our package level (I wanted one of the cheapest possible).  I'm used to being able to get exactly what I want in a car without games.  So I went back looking for cars and found that chevy had the XFE cobalt for only around 15,000 and the best fuel economy out there for its class.  The first dealer I called tried to switch me over to a malibu on the phone which lost him the sale.  The second place I visited had a 2009 XFE on the lot with the 25/37 sticker on the door.  The salesman didn't once try to switch me over to a truck or other car.  I got to test drive the car: it's very basic, handles pretty good but the best part was the 32 mpg average in city driving that I was able to get and on long 45mph stretches I kept the instant mpg at over 45mpg.  I have no doubt that driving on the highway at 65mph will reduce that to 37mpg but I tend to drive slow anyway.  I can probably get better than 32mpg in city driving with practice.<br />
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The way I see it is we only need the second car a few times per week, so we would only put around 5,000 miles on the second car per year which would not be worth it to pay the extra 10,000 for the hybrid.  The XFE cobalt will get traded in for a volt anyway later on.</div>

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			<title>US auto sales were TERRIBLE for all automakers in September 08</title>
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			<description>By the Numbers - September 2008: Nobody Wins Edition - Autoblog...</description>
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Wow!  I've been looking at auto sales figure for years on and off.  I've never seen it down for everyone in a given month.  Too bad this chart doesn't list YTD sales.  You've got to look those up manually elsewhere.</div>

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			<title>2010 Mercedes Benz S400 Hybrid</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:51:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>2010 Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid First Drive on Inside Line (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=131981) 
 
Mercedes-Benz...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><a href="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=131981" target="_blank">2010 Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid First Drive on Inside Line</a><br />
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Mercedes-Benz has developed an electronically controlled cooling process integrated into the air-conditioning system that keeps the S400 BlueHybrid's battery cells operating at an optimal temperature of between 59 and 95 degrees Fahrenheit. Altogether, the battery and cooling system uses 25 unique patents. Vollrath claims the batteries will be good for up to 600,000 cycles, or a life of over 10 years. <br />
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Where it really begins to makes sense, though, is at the gas station. With combined fuel consumption on the European cycle of 29.8 mpg, the S400 BlueHybrid betters the S350 by 7 mpg  enough to provide a 165-mile boost in cruising range from its large 23.8-gallon tank to 708 miles.</div>

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			<title>Zero Pollution Motors Air Car update</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:39:13 GMT</pubDate>
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                                                            </font></font></font></b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="2"><font color="#666666"><b>Recently you emailed us at Zero Pollution Motors</b> asking that we keep you up-to-date on the ultra-eco-friendly Air Vehicle and our progress bringing it to the U.S. You will find information about what's happening at the development plant in Nice, France, including a video showing inventor Guy Negre road testing the new economy vehicle with the extended range engine in it. <br />
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                                                        </font></font></font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="2"><font color="#666666"><b>When will the 4-door, six-seat US model be available?</b> We expect it to be manufactured in the US in 2010. We originally planned to take reservations for the vehicle in 2008 but now plan do so in 2009 as we now anticipate demand to far exceed the early production capability.</font></font></font>                                                         <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="2"><font color="#666666">So, please read on. We hope you will enjoy these stories ? the first of many we want to share with you as we get ready to introduce the Air Vehicle. <br />
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			<title>GM unveils Web site to rebut critics</title>
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			<description>GM unveils Web site to rebut critics (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080905/AUTO01/809050425/1148/AUTO01) 
 
The site is at GM...</description>
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The site is at <a href="http://gmfactsandfiction.com/" target="_blank">GM Facts and Fiction</a>.</div>

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			<title>New VW Golf 62 mpg (US), 99 g/km CO2</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:13:09 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Green Car Congress: Volkswagen Unveils New Golf BlueMotion Concept; 62 mpg US, 99 g CO2/km...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><a href="http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/09/volkswagen-unve.html#more" target="_blank">Green Car Congress: Volkswagen Unveils New Golf BlueMotion Concept; 62 mpg US, 99 g CO2/km</a><br />
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* 0-60 11.3 s<br />
* 62 mpg (US) on combined cycle<br />
* 104 bhp<br />
* 117 mph top speed<br />
* 5-speed DSG (automatic) gearbox<br />
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