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Im just about to give you a new favorite link

Barney — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:54:21 GMT

Guys and Girls, here is something to enrich your lives.

It is to be savoured indeed. I challenge you to watch four vids of this guy and not be hooked.

This is history in the making. Savor it whilst this guy stays free of the loony bin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwpeR51XGc

If you only watch one youtube account in your life. Watch the story of Pastor Cody, and his decent into babyburning insanity.

Tony Blair and the Baroness

Broga — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:44:55 GMT

Let me say immediately that although the information came from one of the most sure and entertaining sources on The Freethinker site, this is one that really boggles the brain. I knew that Tony Blair, Roman Catholic and possibly the most detested Prime Minister of all time, had been chosen as the "preferred candidate" by the UK government as President of the European Parliament. No mention yet of his being also the "preferred candidate" by most of the population for being tried for war crimes, lying to Parliament, secret deals with Dubya, sliding chunks of tax money towards faith schools, and making heaps of cash on lectures etc.

What I didn't know is that his elevation to be President of the European Parliament - a freeloaders paradise - was proposed by Baroness Kinnock, now in the unelected House of Lords (I am told) and missus of that friend of the common man and Tribune of the people Neil Kinnock - once with ambitions to be Prime Minister himself.

Can this be true? if it is then then nothing short of a revolution or, as a black MP Dianne Abbot said a while back, stringing a few MPs up to lamp posts will satisfy the growing lust for blood of the voters.

One Year Old Starved to Death

ubs — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:23:43 GMT

A little boy was denied water and food for refusing to say "Amen.' The boy's body was stuffed in a suitcase after his death and hidden behind the church. The mother, who's family claims she is brainwashed is planning to testify against the religious leaders presumably in hopes of gaining leniency.

1. Should religion be an issue in any child abuse case, or is this the parents' responsibility, and

2. Should child abusers be permitted to reproduce?

What they really fear

PanAtheist — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:02:37 GMT

In another bid to demonstrate the veracity of their faith,
holy water is being banned, and drinking from the chalice discouraged,
and heck, if you've actually got swine flu, attendance at church is no longer required for your salvation. Phew!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/8151427.stm

Ptolemy & Christian scriptures believe the earth is flat

sharky — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:13:50 GMT

Why do Christians still keep ranting on ? They know that the scriptures say the earth is in the centre of the universe and all other planets and stars revolve around it.
They also know that this is completely untrue. Why do these people still take the word of greek astronomer `Ptolemy`?
The earth is not flat ! It is not in the centre of the universe and there is no heaven or hell !!!!
Chew on that one !:mad:

Paddy Fights Back

Smellyoldgit — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:03:59 GMT

Disgruntled Irish catlicks now have the opportunity to ditch the shackles of their retarded religion.
Growing numbers are pissed off at the kiddy-diddlers and the privileged position of the twatican - so they can now go on-line to leave the fold.

http://www.countmeout.ie/

I never realised the church state link was as weak as it actually is - Article 44, Section 2 of the 1937 constitution stated;

"The State recognises the special position of the Holy Catholic Apostolic and Roman Church as the guardian of the Faith professed by the great majority of the citizens."
However, this reference was removed in 1973 by means of a referendum.

Good old Mr Paddy.

Atheism and Me

Dennis — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:18:28 GMT

Hello everyone. My road to atheism was paved with good intentions... I was raised in a Presbyterian/Methodist household, which basically meant my mother dragged us to Sunday School and such every weekend. Sometimes we would pray over dinner, most of the time we did not. My dad never went to Church for reasons I wouldn't understand for years to come (i.e., closet atheist).

When I was nine years old, about to turn 10, I became aware of my own mortality and it scared the crap out of me. In hindsight, I'm not sure what triggered this, whether it was the death of a family member, something I saw on TV, or the impending switchover from single to double-digit age. I don't remember but it really freaked me out. When my mom asked me what was wrong, I told her. She didn't know what to do so she gave me a Bible and told me I might find answers in the New Testament. That stuff was fine but I decided to start from the beginning. Genesis is much more interesting to a young boy than "love thy neighbor".

What I found, in what I later learned to be the Pentateuch, was a bunch of really interesting stories that reminded me of Greek mythologies (of which I was a fan). The more I read, the more I drew parallels between stories which had been presented to me as fictions, and the Bible's stories which were supposedly the "Word of God". It didn't take long after that to start questioning everything that I was being spoon-fed in Sunday School. I kept most of these doubts to myself until Middle School when I learned that others held my same concerns. It wasn't until High School that I finally figured out that my dad was a non-believer too... So THAT's why he was always up early on Sunday mornings mowing the grass when it was time to go to Church!

Anyways... In the many years since then, I've kept my atheism to myself and a close circle of friends. I don't like when people preach to me and I don't do it to others. For the most part I've led a live-and-let-live life and only recently begun to question whether that's the best tactic. Before reading "The God Delusion", it never occurred to me that there could be value in being an activist non-believer. It just never seemed like a battle that could be won. More and more however, I'm discovering that maybe being visible, being counted as a non-believer, might be a good thing... if for no other reason than to show others that are struggling with this idea, that they're not alone.

Dennis

Radical_logic vs. Jerry McDonald: Did God raise Jesus from the dead?

radical_logic — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:30:29 GMT

Ongoing debate taking place here: http://www.freeratio.org/showthread.php?t=269819

Score for Faith Healing!

VladTheImpaler — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:49:07 GMT

Oh, oh, never mind.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/205705/page/1

Assholes.

Bigotry, Cruelty and Contempt for Democracy: the way of the Christian

Broga — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:51:43 GMT

I hope you will bear with me on this one. We have had an exceptional triumph for the Church Leaders and the unelected House of Lords. There is now a triumphalism demonstrated by the "Society for the Protection of the Unborn Child" and fear they may yet win unless we hit back hard.

Many doctors, including my wife, wish to expose the way that the
views of Bishops, the triumvirate of the Archbishop of Canterbury, the
Chief Rabbi and head man from the Roman Catholic Church, have put religious ignorance and bigotry before the welfare of patients.

This is the information I am passing on to you. Quick and rough, I know. As you will expect my wife,a member of the medical secular forum, and someone who knows first hand the effects of long, agonising and terrifying terminal illness on patients and relatives is very concerned and distressed at this further example of religion, unelected, undemocratic and still forcing its cruel superstitions on the weakest and must vulnerberable.

I thank you for any time you give to reading the following.

Regards,

Broga

There are two points in particular, apart from the anti-democratic actions
in the House of Lords, my wife makes:

1. The extraordinary support of women for the change in the law to protect relatives returning from countries where they have legal euthanasia and the shameful lack of support from men in the House of Lords;

2. The attempt of Paul Tully, I quote the paragraph below, to impose his
opinions on the rest of us:

Paul Tully, General Secretary of the Society for the Protection of
the Unborn Child said: "It's time for the Voluntary Euthanasia Society -
now repackaged as Dignity in Dying - to drop its parliamentary campaign, a
campaign which is offensive to very many people who live with, or care for
those with, disability or terminal illness."

The real offense, my wife says is that patients with, for example, with motor neurone disease, going to Switzerland or wherever and who must have help from relatives, are left with the fear that the relatives will be prosecuted. We are here, in this disease, referring to people who are left mentally intact but their muscles slowly cease to work and, in a death of grotesque horror, they
slowly suffocate to death.

My wife and I intend to do whatever we are able to ensure that Paul Tully
knows, via various publications, that we will renew our efforts to civilize
this country and add some compassion to the treatment of these people
despite Paul Tully and his ilk.

We intend to write letters and articles; contact Members of Parliament; write to church leaders; contact the BBC and much else. Unless we protest, unless we fight, they will continue in their complacent and cruel triumph. They are not content to do what they want. They insist on forcing it on the rest of us.

My wife discovered in the unelected Lords, including many bishops, vote on Lord Falconer's amendment that:

I wrote to 26, got 4 replies, three of which were supportive and one was
thinking about it which I took to mean No Of my 26, 6 were female. All four replies were from females and all my
six
females (including the one who was thinking) voted Yes. Of my 20 males,
2 voted Yes. I find this interesting. I wonder if females were over-represented in other letter groups. Maybe women are better able to empathise with the plight of the carers who face the fear of prosecution on their return. If we can't get rid of the contemptible unelected men then the sooner we have women bishops and more baronesses the better.

The campaign which is offensive to very many people who live with, or care for those with, disability or terminal illness is that of Paul Tully and the religious leaders who support him.

From Dignity in Dying and the medical secular forum.

http://dignityindyingnews.c.topica.com/maand44abRwfnaQvbdNb/
>
> The vote shows a significant increase in Parliamentary support from the
> House of Lords and we look forward to supporting our Peers and MPs at the
> later stages of this Bill. Change will come and we will win with your
> continued support.
>
> Thank you for all your efforts.
>
> Emily and all at Dignity in Dying
>
> --
> Emily Halsall
> Membership & Communications Officer
> Dignity in Dying
> Email: emily.halsall@dignityindying.org.uk
>
> Peers who voted in support of the amendment (B=Baroness, L=Lord):
> Addington, L.
> Amos, B.
> Archer of Sandwell, L.
> Arran, E.
> Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon, L.
> Avebury, L.
> Baker of Dorking, L.
> Barker, B.
> Barnett, L.
> Bassam of Brighton, L.
> Berkeley, L.
> Billingham, B.
> Blackstone, B.
> Boothroyd, B.
> Borrie, L.
> Bowness, L.
> Bradshaw, L.
> Broers, L.
> Brougham and Vaux, L.
> Burns, L.
> Butler of Brockwell, L.
> Chadlington, L.
> Clinton-Davis, L.
> Cobbold, L.
> Craigavon, V.
> Davies of Oldham, L.
> Desai, L.
> Dholakia, L.
> D'Souza, B.
> Dubs, L. [Teller]
> Dykes, L.
> Erroll, E.
> Evans of Parkside, L.
> Falconer of Thoroton, L.
> Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
> Faulkner of Worcester, L.
> Flather, B.
> Foulkes of Cumnock, L.
> Freud, L.
> Garden of Frognal, B.
> Geddes, L.
> Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
> Gilbert, L.
> Glasgow, E.
> Golding, B.
> Goodhart, L.
> Gould of Potternewton, B.
> Greengross, B.
> Hamwee, B.
> Hannay of Chiswick, L.
> Harris of Haringey, L.
> Harris of Richmond, B.
> Harrison, L.
> Hart of Chilton, L.
> Haskel, L.
> Haworth, L.
> Hilton of Eggardon, B.
> Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
> Hollis of Heigham, B.
> Howie of Troon, L.
> Hoyle, L.
> Hughes of Woodside, L.
> Hunt of Chesterton, L.
> Janner of Braunstone, L.
> Jay of Paddington, B.
> Joffe, L.
> Jones of Whitchurch, B.
> Judd, L.
> Kerr of Kinlochard, L.
> Kinnock, L.
> Kinnock of Holyhead, B.
> Kirkwood of Kirkhope, L.
> Laing of Dunphail, L.
> Lawson of Blaby, L.
> Leitch, L.
> Lester of Herne Hill, L.
> Lindsay, E.
> Linklater of Butterstone, B.
> Lipsey, L.
> Low of Dalston, L.
> Lucas, L.
> McCluskey, L.
> MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
> McIntosh of Haringey, L.
> McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
> McKenzie of Luton, L.
> Mallalieu, B.
> Mancroft, L.
> Massey of Darwen, B.
> Maxton, L.
> Meacher, B.
> Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
> Monson, L.
> Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
> Moonie, L.
> Morgan, L.
> Morgan of Huyton, B.
> Morris of Manchester, L.
> Moser, L.
> Newby, L.
> Northover, B.
> Norton of Louth, L.
> Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
> O'Neill of Clackmannan, L.
> Pannick, L.
> Prashar, B.
> Quin, B.
> Quirk, L.
> Radice, L.
> Ramsay of Cartvale, B. [Teller]
> Redesdale, L.
> Rees of Ludlow, L.
> Robertson of Port Ellen, L.
> Rosser, L.
> Royall of Blaisdon, B.
> Sawyer, L.
> Sharp of Guildford, B.
> Simon, V.
> Smith of Finsbury, L.
> Snape, L.
> Soley, L.
> Stern, B.
> Stone of Blackheath, L.
> Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
> Taverne, L.
> Taylor of Bolton, B.
> Temple-Morris, L.
> Teverson, L.
> Thomas of Walliswood, B.
> Thornton, B.
> Tonge, B.
> Turnbull, L.
> Turner of Camden, B.
> Wall of New Barnet, B.
> Wallace of Saltaire, L.
> Walmsley, B.
> Warner, L.
> Warnock, B.
> Whitaker, B.
> Young of Hornsey, B.
> Young of Old Scone, B.

rape in a church..how sick is that.

wohaz — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:38:31 GMT

here is the link
http://www.venturacountystar.com/new...pt-assault-at/
the suspect involved here was arrested for attempted rape and a small battery of assult charges.
it is now suspected that he was going to commit rape and then suicide.
what do you see here?
do you think that this is some sort of message, or just knew where to find the girl, either way, this moment kinda hit me oddly, id just thought yall might be interested.

Funny Quotes

Node18 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:29:28 GMT

Post some of the funniest quotes you know, and discuss them if you want here. Try not to go off topic; you might attract the cow.

Quote:

my girlfriend broke up with me and sent me pix of her and her new boyfriend in bed
ouch.
yeah.i sent them to her dad

__________________________________
Man, my penis is so big if I laid it out on a keyboard it'd go all the way from A to Z
wait, shit

I log most of my IRC chats and found this. Haha classic

Moving to UK

Node18 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:59:08 GMT

I'm moving to the UK in about another year, so I thought I'd start extra early now. Before I get into housing, any places of recommendation from the brits?

My son just came out of the closet as an atheist HELP

kthomas12 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:41:16 GMT

Dear Atheists.

I am speaking to you as a troubled parrent and christian. My son has today come out of the closet as an atheist.As a christian I was distraught by the though of my son not believeing in a creator, but I believe like many of you he may just be going through a phase. I searched the net for information on atheists, but this is the closest the aol search engine would get me. I have a few questions I would like to be answered by you guys if you are willing. First I was currious if my son was going to be dealing with the blood of animals, or other stereotypical atheistic items. If so how do you guys get it off your cloths? Will there be any trouble with the law? What do I do if he decides to take part in black masses, or other illegal gatherings? Will he be takeing illegal drugs during these gatherings? What do I do when his conversion makes him display homosexual tendencys? I am willing to work though all the other things with him untill he overcomes him, but the homosexual part might just do it for me. Thank you in advance for all of your help.

My Birthday

Node18 — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:55:21 GMT

yeee, i am now 17. :D

birthday was sunday, where are my presents?