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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" media="screen" href="/~d/styles/atom10full.xsl"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" media="screen" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~d/styles/itemcontent.css"?><feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:feedburner="http://rssnamespace.org/feedburner/ext/1.0"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009</id><updated>2009-07-15T11:15:29.649-05:00</updated><title type="text">Reformed Baptist Blog</title><subtitle type="html">"But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God — and righteousness and sanctification and redemption — that, as it is written, 'He who glories, let him glory in the Lord.'"</subtitle><link rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/" /><link rel="next" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version="7.00" uri="http://www.blogger.com">Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>161</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><link rel="self" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/ReformedBaptistBlog" type="application/atom+xml" /><feedburner:emailServiceId>ReformedBaptistBlog</feedburner:emailServiceId><feedburner:feedburnerHostname>http://feedburner.google.com</feedburner:feedburnerHostname><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-5895724494000760816</id><published>2009-07-15T10:05:00.007-05:00</published><updated>2009-07-15T11:15:29.659-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reformed Ministries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pastoral Ministry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Announcements" /><title type="text">Welcoming Dr. Richard Belcher to the Blog</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/Sl3yLLfblWI/AAAAAAAAAZM/UGKcRrV8_dU/s1600-h/Belcher.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 227px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 158px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5358705405517862242" border="0" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/Sl3yLLfblWI/AAAAAAAAAZM/UGKcRrV8_dU/s320/Belcher.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Many of the blog's readers will already be familiar with Dr. Belcher (pictured at left with his beloved wife, Mary Anne), especially since I have written at least five articles in the past about him and his books. Some of the blog's readers may also know that I have prayed that the Lord will provide another contributor to this blog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I am happy to announce that Dr. Belcher, one of my professors in Bible college, and definitely the most formative influence on my own ministry as a pastor and preacher of the Word, has graciously agreed to contribute to the blog. I can't tell you all how excited I am to have any input he is able to offer! I also hope it will be a good way for him to let us all know about the &lt;a href="http://www.richbarrypress.com/index"&gt;books&lt;/a&gt; he is writing and his ministry at &lt;a href="http://www.covenantbaptistsc.org/"&gt;Covenant Baptist Church&lt;/a&gt; in West Columbia, South Carolina, as well as his passion for ministry to India as the head of Evangelizing India for Christ. He has faithfully preached the Word for over fifty years and has taught at Columbia Bible College for almost thirty years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr. Belcher has also just finished his latest book in the Journey series of theological novels, &lt;a href="http://www.richbarrypress.com/"&gt;A Journey in Heresy&lt;/a&gt;, and I am looking forward to reading it. Here is the description from &lt;a href="http://www.richbarrypress.com/index"&gt;Richbarry Press&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;What is one supposed to do when he teaches in a Christian seminary, which is about to be invaded by clear and undeniable heresy? Yet, the one who is bearing the heresy is a powerful preacher and personality, who most all think is sound in doctrine, because he is a great evangelist, who can get so many “decisions” for Christ! This is the dilemma of Ira and Dink, as they try to open the eyes of others to the danger of this man and his doctrine. Dink even faces a group of the board of trustees of the seminary, who are meeting behind the scenes, to seek to fire Dink from his position at the school, so they can hire this man, who seems to be so sound in doctrine but is not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Follow Ira and Dink, as they face this new challenge of seeking to alert others of false doctrine, when the Christians of the day, and even the preachers around them, seem more concerned and enlightened about getting decisions and numbers and large crowds, than they are about truth and doctrine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Along the same lines, Dr. Belcher's first post to the blog, Lord willing, will be a brief article on the theology of Charles Finney, a man whose influence on modern evangelicals has been far too great and whose heretical views have been far too long hidden from them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For more information about Dr. Belcher, visit the profile at his church's web page &lt;a href="http://www.covenantbaptistsc.org/about/pastor.php"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-5895724494000760816?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/LGHRRyId9dc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/5895724494000760816/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=5895724494000760816" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/5895724494000760816" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/5895724494000760816" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/LGHRRyId9dc/welcoming-dr-richard-belcher-to-blog.html" title="Welcoming Dr. Richard Belcher to the Blog" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/Sl3yLLfblWI/AAAAAAAAAZM/UGKcRrV8_dU/s72-c/Belcher.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/07/welcoming-dr-richard-belcher-to-blog.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-3636172977543492534</id><published>2009-07-02T12:11:00.014-05:00</published><updated>2009-07-07T13:02:52.652-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reformed Ministries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Baptist Confession of 1689" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Church History" /><title type="text">Why I Call Myself a Reformed Baptist</title><content type="html">Last week I &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/06/disappointed-in-john-piper.html"&gt;linked&lt;/a&gt; to R. Scott Clark's article &lt;a href="http://heidelblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/gentle-rebuke-brother-john/"&gt;A Gentle Rebuke to Brother John&lt;/a&gt;, in which he took John Piper to task for inviting Doug Wilson to speak at the upcoming Desiring God Conference this fall. But although I agree with Scott in his confrontation of John on this point, I do not agree with everything he said in that post. I especially do not agree with his criticism of Reformed Baptists for their use of the term &lt;em&gt;Reformed&lt;/em&gt; as a reference to themselves. Here are the specific comments with which I take exception:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Calling a Baptist “Reformed” is like calling Presbyterians “Baptist” because they believe in believer’s baptism. The Reformed churches do practice the baptism of unbaptized believers but they also baptize the infants of believers. No self-respecting, confessional Baptist should accept me as “Baptist” and Reformed folk should resist labeling anyone who rejects most of Reformed theology as “Reformed.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;There are several points to be made in response to these comments, but before I list them I want to make something clear, namely that I do not pretend to speak for all who would call themselves Reformed Baptists. I have entitled this post, "Why &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; Call &lt;em&gt;Myself&lt;/em&gt; a Reformed Baptist," and I hope that I may give a good, brief accounting for this in this post. But it must be said that I do not see myself as a leader of the movement, let alone one of its primary spokesmen. In fact, the movement is diverse enough not to claim any one person as the most appropriate spokesman. For example, back in 2007-2008 I conducted a &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2008/02/what-is-reformed-baptist-poll-results.html"&gt;poll&lt;/a&gt; on this blog that revealed some significant diversity among those who would call themselves Reformed Baptists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With these caveats in mind, I will now address the above comments made by Clark. First, I do not agree at all with his assertion that "calling a Baptist 'Reformed' is like calling Presbyterians 'Baptist' because they believe in believer’s baptism." I am, frankly, surprised that Clark would make use of such an analogy when he must know that what makes the Baptist position distinctive is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; that we advocate the baptism of believers (which we certainly do) but rather that we advocate the baptism of believers &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt;. When a Presbyterian begins to assert that position, then I will accept his calling himself a "Presbyterian Baptist," even if he doesn't hold to other historically distinctive Baptist positions, such as our view of church government, which asserts the autonomy of the local church in matters of governance. But, then, the term&lt;em&gt; Presbyterian&lt;/em&gt; so used would clearly indicate this difference, wouldn't it? And this is really no different than the way the term &lt;em&gt;Baptist&lt;/em&gt; qualifies my use of the term &lt;em&gt;Reformed&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, Clark's comments seem to assume the idea that there is a monolithic historical understanding of the meaning of the English word &lt;em&gt;reformed&lt;/em&gt;. But this is simply not true. There are broader and more narrow senses in which the word may be used, and not all of these require the specific understanding to which he apparently wishes to restrict usage of the term. In addition, I see no reason why a modifier cannot be attached to the word that in effect alters and qualifies its meaning so as to rule out the kind of misunderstanding that Clark is apparently concerned about. One such modifier – as I have already noted – is the term &lt;em&gt;baptist&lt;/em&gt;, which immediately communicates a distinctive use of the word &lt;em&gt;reformed&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps it would be helpful to discuss at least three senses in which I believe the term &lt;em&gt;reformed&lt;/em&gt; has been used, all of which have application to my own usage of the term when I call myself a &lt;em&gt;Reformed Baptist&lt;/em&gt;. I will list three ways in which I believe I have seen the term used, beginning with the most broad sense and moving to the most narrow sense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;First&lt;/em&gt;, the term &lt;em&gt;reformed&lt;/em&gt; can be used in a broad sense to describe that which is changed for the better, and in our discussion it refers to the changes that were made by Protestants in their efforts to reform the Roman Catholic Church in accordance with Scripture. In this sense it could refer to any person or group that seeks to be consistent in reforming the church in this way. I believe John Quincy Adams had in mind this usage of the term in his famous little book &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=jk5nQU7rzl0C&amp;amp;dq=Baptists:+The+Only+Thorough+Religious+Reformers&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=aS7pnuKe0w&amp;amp;sig=gkCVcwOjNIDMlku3xgPuxWwCF_s&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=1YlSSriLIJPYsgPm7tGKBw&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=2"&gt;Baptists: The Only Thorough Religious Reformers&lt;/a&gt;, and this is one sense in which I intend the word to be taken when I describe myself as a &lt;em&gt;Reformed &lt;/em&gt;Baptist. It communicates my commitment to the principle indicated by the slogan &lt;em&gt;semper reformanda&lt;/em&gt; ("always reforming"), and it declares my conviction that it is the Particular Baptists who have been more faithful reformers than their Presbyterian brothers, especially with regard to the issues of church government and baptism, as indicated above. Indeed, in this sense I think we have more right to use the term than they do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Second&lt;/em&gt;, the term &lt;em&gt;reformed&lt;/em&gt; can refer to the broader Protestant tradition characterized by principles held by most of the early Reformers, and not just those in Geneva, for example. These principles may be summed up by the five Reformation precepts often referred to as "the &lt;a href="http://www.alliancenet.org/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID307086%7CCHID798774%7CCIID1411364,00.html"&gt;solas&lt;/a&gt;." These include the principle of &lt;em&gt;sola scriptura&lt;/em&gt; (that Scripture alone is our ultimate authority), the principle of &lt;em&gt;solus Christus&lt;/em&gt; (that we are saved by Christ alone), &lt;em&gt;sola gratia&lt;/em&gt; (that we are saved by God's grace alone), &lt;em&gt;sola fide&lt;/em&gt; (that we are saved by faith alone), and &lt;em&gt;soli Deo gloria&lt;/em&gt; (that all is to the glory of God alone). Thus when I call myself a &lt;em&gt;Reformed&lt;/em&gt; Baptist I mean to indicate that I wholeheartedly embrace these distinctive principles of the Reformation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Third&lt;/em&gt;, I agree that there is a more narrow use of the term as Clark affirms, namely to refer to those who follow the traditions that have come particularly from Calvin's reforming work in Geneva. This would include not only the Swiss Reformed, but also the Dutch Reformed and the numerous Presbyterian groups that have followed from both of these traditions. I also agree with Clark that we do not want to confuse Baptists with these Reformed groups. However, this is precisely why I call my self a Reformed &lt;em&gt;Baptist&lt;/em&gt;. The term &lt;em&gt;Baptist &lt;/em&gt;clearly qualifies my use of the term &lt;em&gt;Reformed&lt;/em&gt;. And when I use the terms together this way, I do not think I am doing anything essentially different than did those English Baptists who based the Baptist Confession of 1689 upon the Westminster Confession of Faith. They clearly wanted to identify themselves as in the mainstream of the Reformed tradition in one sense, while at the same time distinguishing themselves in ways that demonstrated how they had reformed more thoroughly than had their Presbyterian brethren. This – together with the reasons already listed – is precisely why I call myself a Reformed Baptist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope this post has helped to briefly clarify and defend my usage of the appellation &lt;em&gt;Reformed Baptist&lt;/em&gt; to describe myself, and, despite Clark's objections, I believe I have every right to use this description.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-3636172977543492534?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/C2-IXsxql2Q" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/3636172977543492534/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=3636172977543492534" title="8 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/3636172977543492534" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/3636172977543492534" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/C2-IXsxql2Q/why-i-call-myself-reformed-baptist.html" title="Why I Call Myself a Reformed Baptist" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">8</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-i-call-myself-reformed-baptist.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-7383909209608736375</id><published>2009-06-29T15:20:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-29T15:29:31.686-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reformed Ministries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Baptist Confession of 1689" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Creeds" /><title type="text">Modern Version of the Baptist Confession of 1689 Complete</title><content type="html">This blog's regular readers may remember that I &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/01/modern-versions-of-baptist-confession.html"&gt;informed&lt;/a&gt; you back in January of the ongoing effort of Stan Reeves, a professor of electrical and computer engineering at Auburn University and an elder at &lt;a href="http://www.graceheritage.org/"&gt;Grace Heritage Church&lt;/a&gt; in Auburn, Alabama, to modernize the Baptist Confession of 1689. Well, earlier this month he posted the final chapter of the confession &lt;a href="http://modern1689.reeveshome.org/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. I assume he may still want to do some editing, especially as he receives feedback from those who visit his blog. So, if you can, visit the site and weigh in with questions or suggestions. He has been posting it in a blog format for this very reason.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks again, Steve, for taking on this important and helpful task for the churches!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-7383909209608736375?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/BGDPhEJf3p8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/7383909209608736375/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=7383909209608736375" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/7383909209608736375" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/7383909209608736375" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/BGDPhEJf3p8/modern-version-of-baptist-confession-of.html" title="Modern Version of the Baptist Confession of 1689 Complete" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/06/modern-version-of-baptist-confession-of.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-7079415163028194413</id><published>2009-06-26T14:47:00.016-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-29T10:02:18.953-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reformed Ministries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pastoral Ministry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Gospel" /><title type="text">Disappointed in John Piper's Judgment About Doug Wilson</title><content type="html">I want to begin by saying how much I like and appreciate John Piper and how difficult it is, then, for me to write this post. Although I do not know John well, I was greatly helped by his fatherly advice when I was involved in the debate over Openness Theology (or Free-will Theism) in the Baptist General Conference some years ago. He offered perspective, wisdom, and even some needed confrontation of me on a few points. I was going through a very difficult time in my life and ministry while at the same time caught up in a denominational debate I would rather not have been a part of, and John was a helpful guide for a young and troubled pastor. I don't know if he would even remember me now, but I will always be grateful for the time he took to offer some much needed guidance and concern.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, I have prayed about whether or not I should write this post, and I have thought about it off and on for most of the day today, but I just couldn't avoid weighing in on one recent matter that has surprised, perplexed, and disappointed me with regard to John's judgment. It has to do with his questionable discernment regarding Doug Wilson as an adherent of Federal Vision theology. I was, in fact, quite surprised when I recently found out that John Piper and the Desiring God ministry had chosen to ask Doug Wilson to speak at the upcoming Desiring God Conference in September. I heard about it from George Drye, a fellow elder at &lt;a href="http://www.immanuelhomepage.org/"&gt;Immanuel&lt;/a&gt;, who was more than a little concerned about it, especially since he and I have had to confront some Federal Vision issues in our own congregation. As for John's reasoning in deciding to include Wilson in this year's conference, here is the video explanation that was &lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/1878_why_doug_wilson_is_speaking_at_dgs_fall_conference/"&gt;posted&lt;/a&gt; at the Desiring God website:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="580" height="360"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/gprGHoMzar0&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/gprGHoMzar0&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clearly John believes that Wilson himself "gets the Gospel right." But I have some real doubts about this, especially, as I have already noted, given Wilson's adherence to Federal Vision theology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I first found out about this aberrant theology when I attended a 2002 (or 3?) pastors' conference at Auburn Avenue Presbyterian Church in Monroe, Louisiana. I was invited to go – and in fact driven there – by a man who attended our church at the time, but who had previously been a member at Auburn Avenue. Doug Wilson was one of the primary speakers at that conference, and that is where I first discovered who he is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Frankly, I was shocked at some of what I heard coming from a PCA church (or at least what was a PCA church at the time, because they have since left that denomination, no doubt due in part to the PCA's rejection of Federal Vision theology as unacceptable). For example, I heard men espousing baptismal regeneration and asserting that those who have been properly baptized are saved thereby and possess all the saving benefits of Christ. They also said that such saved persons can apostatize and reject the Christian faith and no longer possess the saving benefits of Christ. But then, out of the other sides of their mouths, they claimed to hold to the Westminster Confession of Faith in its teaching on the perseverance of the saints.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I had lunch with Doug Wilson and asked him how he could say such things and still claim to hold to the Westminster Confession's position on the perseverance of the saints, he told me that there is a difference between those who are elect and those we must regard as saved from our point of view. When I asked follow-up questions, such as whether or not regarding one as &lt;em&gt;saved&lt;/em&gt; meant also regarding them as &lt;em&gt;elect&lt;/em&gt;, I just got a lot of what I considered to be double-speak in response. Needless to say, I never went to another pastors' conference at Auburn, and I left with a decidedly negative view of Wilson's theology, however likable I found him to be on a personal level.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I am disturbed by the fact that John doesn't seem to see this double-speak for what it is. As the following video demonstrates, he appears instead to be enamored by Wilson and therefore misses what are obvious and unbiblical inconsistencies in Wilson's position.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="580" height="360"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/TLy88cB3gCQ&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/TLy88cB3gCQ&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice how John speaks of Wilson as being "very complicated" for saying completely illogical and truth-distorting things. How, after all, can one speak logically – let alone Biblically – about an "unregenerate elect" person, or an "unregenerate regenerate" person as Piper agrees that Wilson does? This is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; saying the same thing as one would say who agrees that there may be professing Christians who turn out to be unsaved in the end, as John assumes. It is speaking in a very &lt;em&gt;confusing&lt;/em&gt; way about fundamentally important matters, but John prefers to call it "very complicated" instead, while he reminds us how "bright" Wilson is. And then he goes on to talk about how Wilson "gets a bad wrap from a lotta PCA guys who aren't careful in the way they think."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This just reminded me of how sick I have become of the Federal Vision guys constantly complaining about how "misunderstood" they have been and blaming everyone else for misrepresenting them when the real problem is their constant redefinition of historical theological terms and categories while at the same time claiming to believe in the historical meaning of those same terms. I don't think they are being misunderstood at all. I think they are being called on the fact that they are deliberately playing all kinds of language games. And even if they are being misunderstood, who's fault is that!? Isn't it their own fault? I mean, how can the rest of us be blamed for thinking that the laws of logic should still apply to theological discussion?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, I am surprised at and disappointed in Piper's not seeing the problem and calling Wilson on these kinds of things. After having met Wilson and spoken with him for a while – as I indicated above – I can testify as to how charismatic and winsome he is. After speaking with him, you kind of want to agree with him just because you like him. And he is just as bright as John says he is, which is why it is so hard not to hold him accountable for his strange and inconsistent assertions about key doctrines. Could it be that Piper has been won over by the strong and engaging personality of Wilson? It sort of looks that way to me, even if he has "only met him once."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for the dangers of Federal Vision theology, here is what &lt;em&gt;New Horizons&lt;/em&gt;, the magazine of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, has so say in an article entitled &lt;a href="http://www.opc.org/nh.html?article_id=478"&gt;Understanding the Federal Vision&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;Twenty errors that are held by one or more advocates of the Federal Vision are listed in the conclusion of the report of the OPC's Committee to Study the Doctrine of Justification:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1. Pitting Scripture and Confession against each other. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2. Regarding the enterprise of systematic theology as inherently rationalistic. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;3. A mono-covenantalism that sees one covenant, originating in the intra-Trinitarian fellowship, into which man is invited, thus flattening the concept of covenant and denying the distinction between the covenant of works and the covenant of grace. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;4. Election as primarily corporate and eclipsed by covenant. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;5. Seeing covenant as only conditional. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;6. A denial of the covenant of works and of the fact that Adam was in a relationship with God that was legal as well as filial. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;7. A denial of a covenant of grace distinct from the covenant of works. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;8. A denial that the law given in Eden is the same as that more fully published at Mt. Sinai and that it requires perfect obedience. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;9. Viewing righteousness as relational, not moral. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;10. A failure to make clear the difference between our faith and Christ's. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;11. A denial of the imputation of the active obedience of Christ in our justification. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;12. Defining justification exclusively as the forgiveness of sins. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;13. The reduction of justification to Gentile inclusion. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;14. Including works (by use of "faithfulness," "obedience," etc.) in the very definition of faith. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;15. Failing to affirm an infallible perseverance and the indefectibility of grace. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;16. Teaching baptismal regeneration. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;17. Denying the validity of the concept of the invisible church. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;18. An overly objectified sacramental efficacy that downplays the need for faith&lt;br /&gt;and that tends toward an &lt;em&gt;ex opere operato&lt;/em&gt; [automatically effective] view of the&lt;br /&gt;sacraments. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;19. Teaching paedocommunion. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;20. Ecclesiology that eclipses and swallows up soteriology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No wonder R. Scott Clark, Professor of Church History and Historical Theology at &lt;a href="http://www.wscal.edu/clark" target="_blank"&gt;Westminster Seminary California&lt;/a&gt;, has issued &lt;a href="http://heidelblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/gentle-rebuke-brother-john/"&gt;A Gentle Rebuke to Brother John&lt;/a&gt; for the remarks he made in the above video. Clark does see the Gospel as being corrupted by Wilson and other Federal Vision advocates, as a number of the above listed issues demonstrate. Of course, Wilson may not hold to &lt;em&gt;every&lt;/em&gt; aberrant position as listed or stated here, but he does hold to enough of them to warrant genuine concern that the Gospel is being at best distorted and confused by him. Given such issues, I am glad that John at least says that he is "worried" and "concerned" about the "trajectory" of the views Wilson holds. I just wish this concern had led to his steering clear of Wilson rather than essentially endorsing him by involving him in the Desiring God Conference.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Update 27 June 2009&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Last night I listened to all three hours of the "&lt;a href="http://www.christkirk.com/DougWilsonCREC.asp"&gt;grilling&lt;/a&gt;" John referred to of Doug Wilson by the CREC presbytery. After listening to the exchanges, I can understand a little better why John doesn't see Wilson as being quite as dangerous in his adherence to Federal Vision theology as so many in Presbyterian circles do. Wilson is quite a bit more measured and careful in his statements to the presbytery than he has been at other times and in other venues. It is a bit easier to see how John can say that Wilson is wrong, "but wrong in the way that you would expect a Presbyterian to be wrong." To be sure, even in the exchange with his presbytery, Wilson said some things that I find quite disturbing, but he did avoid some of the more extreme kinds of things I have personally heard him say before or that I have seen written in documents such as the 2007 &lt;a href="http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3548995/A-Joint-Federal-Vision-Statement-Greetings-in-the-Lord-Many"&gt;A Joint federal Vision Statement&lt;/a&gt;. (Thanks to &lt;a href="http://heidelblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/gentle-rebuke-brother-john/"&gt;R. Scott Clark&lt;/a&gt; for finding this, because I had forgotten about it and hadn't been able to locate it either.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, the problem here may be that John simply has limited knowledge of Wilson's actions and assertions, and rather than listening closely to what those who have had to deal head on with the problems of Federal Vision theology in their own churches have to say, John just asserts that Wilson "gets a bad wrap from a lotta PCA guys who aren't careful in the way they think."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am disturbed by this the more I think about it, because John simply dismisses the collective judgment of many of those who may know Wilson and his crowd best. Again, as I noted previously in this post, I know that Wilson and others in the Federal Vision camp frequently like to claim that they are being misunderstood, and John may believe this claim with respect to Wilson. But I still assert that they aren't being so misunderstood at all; they are just being challenged for – at the very least – speaking of important doctrines in such a way as to distort their meaning. But, again, even if they are at times being misunderstood, I think it is almost entirely their own fault for speaking in consistently equivocal ways.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, again, after listening to the whole exchange between Wilson and the CREC presbytery as John suggested, I am still no more certain as to what Wilson really believes about some things, because I don't think he has been consistent in what he has said on various occasions. Could it be that Wilson has backed off of some things or corrected his views at some points? Perhaps, but I would like to see clear evidence of that before being convinced, and I still think it is a very bad idea for John and the Desiring God ministry to invite him to their conference.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But this leads me to another matter, which is why John feels it necessary to include such a controversial figure as Doug Wilson in the first place. I mean, aren't there a number of much less controversial figures who could have spoken at the conference on the topic of "The Sacred Script in the Theater of God: Calvin, the Bible, and the Western World”? In fact, aren't there some &lt;em&gt;even better choices&lt;/em&gt; regardless of whether or not Wilson is a controversial figure? What about a guy like R.C. Sproul? Or Michael Horton? Or Robert Peterson? If he wants a Presbyterian to talk on this subject, surely their are many others he could have looked to.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-7079415163028194413?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/PywmoWsUksM" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/7079415163028194413/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=7079415163028194413" title="10 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/7079415163028194413" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/7079415163028194413" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/PywmoWsUksM/disappointed-in-john-piper.html" title="Disappointed in John Piper's Judgment About Doug Wilson" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">10</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/06/disappointed-in-john-piper.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-203381889374684286</id><published>2009-06-20T17:46:00.010-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-20T19:03:50.205-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bible Study" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><title type="text">J.C. Ryle on Parenting</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/Sj1nE7zqXMI/AAAAAAAAAYs/MlxaEr9f0lY/s1600-h/jcryle.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 225px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 320px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5349545266857532610" border="0" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/Sj1nE7zqXMI/AAAAAAAAAYs/MlxaEr9f0lY/s320/jcryle.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Given that tomorrow is Father's Day, I thought I would posts here J.C. Ryle's sermon on Proverbs 22:6 entitled "The Duties of Parents." Here is the verse, followed by Ryle's message:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;NKJ Proverbs 22:6 "Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I suppose that most professing Christians are acquainted with the text at the head of this page. The sound of it is probably familiar to your ears, like an old tune. It is likely you have heard it, or read it, talked of it, or quoted it, many a time. Is it not so? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But, after all, how little is the substance of this text regarded! The doctrine it contains appears scarcely known, the duty it puts before us seems fearfully seldom practised. Reader, do I not speak the truth? It cannot be said that the subject is a new one. The world is old, and we have the experience of nearly six thousand years to help us. We live in days when there is a mighty zeal for education in every quarter. We hear of new schools rising on all sides. We are told of new systems, and new books for the young, of every sort and description. And still for all this, the vast majority of children are manifestly not trained in the way they should go, for when they grow up to man’s estate, they do not walk with God. Now how shall we account for this state of things? The plain truth is, the Lord’s commandment in our text is not regarded; and therefore the Lord’s promise in our text is not fulfilled. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reader, these things may well give rise to great searchings of heart. Suffer then a word of exhortation from a minister, about the right training of children. Believe me, the subject is one that should come home to every conscience, and make every one ask himself the question, "Am I in this matter doing what I can?" &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a subject that concerns almost all. There is hardly a household that it does not touch. Parents, nurses, teachers, godfathers, godmothers, uncles, aunts, brothers, sisters, — all have an interest in it. Few can be found, I think, who might not influence some parent in the management of his family, or affect the training of some child by suggestion or advice. All of us, I suspect, can do something here, either directly or indirectly, and I wish to stir up all to bear this in remembrance. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a subject, too, on which all concerned are in great danger of coming short of their duty. This is preeminently a point in which men can see the faults of their neighbours more clearly than their own. They will often bring up their children in the very path which they have denounced to their friends as unsafe. They will see motes in other men’s families, and overlook beams in their own. They will be quick&lt;br /&gt;sighted as eagles in detecting mistakes abroad, and yet blind as bats to fatal errors which are daily going on at home. They will be wise about their brother’s house, but foolish about their own flesh and blood. Here, if anywhere, we have need to suspect our own judgment. This, too, you will do well to bear in mind. [1]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Come now, and let me place before you a few hints about right training. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost bless them, and make them words in season to you all. Reject them not because they are blunt and simple; despise them not because they contain nothing new. Be very sure, if you would train children for heaven, they are hints that ought not to be lightly set aside. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. First, then, if you would train your children rightly, train them in the way they should go, and not in the way that they would.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember children are born with a decided bias towards evil, and therefore if you let them choose for themselves, they are certain to choose wrong. The mother cannot tell what her tender infant may grow up to be, — tall or short, weak or strong, wise or foolish he may be any of these things or not, — it is all uncertain. But one thing the mother can say with certainty: he will have a corrupt and sinful heart. It is natural to us to do wrong. "Foolishness," says Solomon, "is bound in the heart of a child" (Prov. 22:15). "A child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame" (Prov. 29:15). Our hearts are like the earth on which we tread; let it alone, and it is sure to bear weeds. If, then, you would deal wisely with your child, you must not leave him to the guidance of his own will. Think for him, judge for him, act for him, just as you would for one weak and blind; but for pity’s sake, give him not up to his own wayward tastes and inclinations. It must not be his likings and wishes that are&lt;br /&gt;consulted. He knows not yet what is good for his mind and soul, any more than what is good for his body. You do not let him decide what he shall eat, and what he shall drink, and how he shall be clothed. Be consistent, and deal with his mind in like manner. Train him in the way that is scriptural and right, and not in the way that he fancies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you cannot make up your mind to this first principle of Christian training, it is useless for you to read any further. Self-will is almost the first thing that appears in a child’s mind; and it must be your first step to resist it. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2. Train up your child with all tenderness, affection, and patience. I do not mean that you are to spoil him, but I do mean that you should let him see that you love him.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Love should be the silver thread that runs through all your conduct. Kindness, gentleness, long-suffering, forbearance, patience, sympathy, a willingness to enter into childish troubles, a readiness to take part in childish joys, — these are the cords by which a child may be led most easily, — these are the clues you must follow if you would find the way to his heart. Few are to be found, even among grown-up people, who are not more easy to draw than to drive. There is that in all our minds which rises in arms against compulsion; we set up our backs and stiffen our necks at the very idea of a forced obedience. We are like young horses in the hand of a breaker: handle them kindly, and make much of them, and by and by you may guide them with thread; use them roughly and violently, and it will be many a month before you get the mastery of them at all. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now children’s minds are cast in much the same mould as our own. Sternness and severity of manner chill them and throw them back. It shuts up their hearts, and you will weary yourself to find the door. But let them only see that you have an affectionate feeling towards them, — that you are really desirous to make them happy, and do them good, — that if you punish them, it is intended for their profit, and that, like the pelican, you would give your heart’s blood to nourish their souls; let them see this, I say, and they will soon be all your own. But they must be wooed with kindness, if their attention is ever to be won. And surely reason itself might teach us this lesson. Children are weak and tender creatures, and, as such, they need patient and considerate treatment. We must handle them delicately, like frail machines, lest by rough fingering we do more harm than good. They are like young plants, and need gentle watering, — often, but little at a time. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We must not expect all things at once. We must remember what children are, and teach them as they are able to bear. Their minds are like a lump of metal — not to be forged and made useful at once, but only by a succession of little blows. Their understandings are like narrow-necked vessels: we must pour in the wine of knowledge gradually, or much of it will be spilled and lost. "Line upon line, and precept upon precept, here a little and there a little," must be our rule. The whetstone does its work slowly, but frequent rubbing will bring the scythe to a fine edge. Truly there is need of patience in training a child, but without it nothing can be done. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nothing will compensate for the absence of this tenderness and love. A minister may speak the truth as it is in Jesus, clearly, forcibly, unanswerably; but if he does not speak it in love, few souls will be won. Just so you must set before your children their duty, — command, threaten, punish, reason, — but if affection be wanting in your treatment, your labour will be all in vain. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Love is one grand secret of successful training. Anger and harshness may frighten, but they will not persuade the child that you are right; and if he sees you often out of temper, you will soon cease to have his respect. A father who speaks to his son as Saul did to Jonathan (1 Sam. 20:30), need not expect to retain his influence over that son’s mind. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Try hard to keep up a hold on your child’s affections. It is a dangerous thing to make your children afraid of you. Anything is almost better than reserve and constraint between your child and yourself; and this will come in with fear. Fear puts an end to openness of manner; — fear leads to concealment; — fear sows the seed of much hypocrisy, and leads to many a lie. There is a mine of truth in the Apostle’s words to the Colossians: "Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be&lt;br /&gt;discouraged" (Col. 3:21). Let not the advice it contains be overlooked. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3. Train your children with an abiding persuasion on your mind that much depends upon you.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Grace is the strongest of all principles. See what a revolution grace effects when it comes into the heart of an old sinner, — how it overturns the strongholds of Satan, — how it casts down mountains, fills up valleys, — makes crooked things straight, — and new creates the whole man. Truly nothing is impossible to grace. Nature, too, is very strong. See how it struggles against the things of the kingdom of God, — how it fights against every attempt to be more holy, — how it keeps up an unceasing warfare within us to the last hour of life. Nature indeed is strong. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But after nature and grace, undoubtedly, there is nothing more powerful than education. Early habits (if I may so speak) are everything with us, under God. We are made what we are by training. Our character takes the form of that mould into which our first years are cast. [2]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We depend, in a vast measure, on those who bring us up. We get from them a colour, a taste, a bias which cling to us more or less all our lives. We catch the language of our nurses and mothers, and learn to speak it almost insensibly, and unquestionably we catch something of their manners, ways, and mind at the same time. Time only will show, I suspect, how much we all owe to early impressions, and how many things in us may be traced up to seeds sown in the days of our very infancy, by those who were about us. A very learned Englishman, Mr. Locke, has gone so far as to say: "That of all the men we meet with, nine parts out of ten are what they are, good or bad, useful or not, according to their education." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And all this is one of God’s merciful arrangements. He gives your children a mind that will receive impressions like moist clay. He gives them a disposition at the starting-point of life to believe what you tell them, and to take for granted what you advise them, and to trust your word rather than a stranger’s. He gives you, in short, a golden opportunity of doing them good. See that the opportunity be not neglected, and thrown away. Once let slip, it is gone for ever. Beware of that miserable delusion into which some have fallen, — that parents can do nothing for their children, that you must leave them alone, wait for grace, and sit still. These persons have wishes for their children in Balaam’s fashion, — they would like them to die the death of the righteous man, but they do nothing to make them live his life. They desire much, and have nothing. And the devil rejoices to see such reasoning, just as he always does over anything which seems to excuse indolence, or to encourage neglect of means. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know that you cannot convert your child. I know well that they who are born again are born, not of the will of man, but of God. But I know also that God says expressly, "Train up a child in the way he should go," and that He never laid a command on man which He would not give man grace to perform. And I know, too, that our duty is not to stand still and dispute, but to go forward and obey. It is just in the going forward that God will meet us. The path of obedience is the way in which He gives the blessing. We have only to do as the servants were commanded at the marriage feast in Cana, to fill the water-pots with water, and we may safely leave it to the Lord to turn that water into wine. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4. Train with this thought continually before your eyes — that the soul of your child is the first thing to be considered.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Precious, no doubt, are these little ones in your eyes; but if you love them, think often of their souls. No interest should weigh with you so much as their eternal interests. No part of them should be so dear to you as that part which will never die. The world, with all its glory, shall pass away; the hills shall melt; the heavens shall be wrapped together as a scroll; the sun shall cease to shine. But the spirit which dwells in those little creatures, whom you love so well, shall outlive them all, and whether in happiness or misery (to speak as a man) will depend on you. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the thought that should be uppermost on your mind in all you do for your children. In every step you take about them, in every plan, and scheme, and arrangement that concerns them, do not leave out that mighty question, "How will this affect their souls?" &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Soul love is the soul of all love. To pet and pamper and indulge your child, as if this world was all he had to look to, and this life the only season for happiness — to do this is not true love, but cruelty. It is treating him like some beast of the earth, which has but one world to look to, and nothing after death. It is hiding from him that grand truth, which he ought to be made to learn from his very infancy, — that the chief end of his life is the salvation of his soul. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;A true Christian must be no slave to fashion, if he would train his child for heaven. He must not be content to do things merely because they are the custom of the world; to teach them and instruct them in certain ways, merely because it is usual; to allow them to read books of a questionable sort, merely because everybody else reads them; to let them form habits of a doubtful tendency, merely because they are the habits of the day. He must train with an eye to his children’s souls. He must not be ashamed to hear his training called singular and strange. What if it is? The time is short, — the fashion of this world passeth away. He that has trained his children for heaven, rather than for earth, — for God, rather than for man, — he is the parent that will be called wise at last. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5. Train your child to a knowledge of the Bible.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You cannot make your children love the Bible, I allow. None but the Holy Ghost can give us a heart to delight in the Word. But you can make your children acquainted with the Bible; and be sure they cannot be acquainted with that blessed book too soon, or too well. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A thorough knowledge of the Bible is the foundation of all clear views of religion. He that is well-grounded in it will not generally be found a waverer, and carried about by every wind of new doctrine. Any system of training which does not make a knowledge of Scripture the first thing is unsafe and unsound. You have need to be careful on this point just now, for the devil is abroad, and error abounds. Some are to be found amongst us who give the Church the honour due to Jesus Christ. Some are to be found who make the sacraments saviours and passports to eternal life. And some are to be found in like manner who honour a catechism more than the Bible, or fill the minds of their children with miserable little story-books, instead of the Scripture of truth. But if you love your children, let the simple Bible be everything in the training of their souls; and let all other books go down and take the second place. Care not so much for their being mighty in the catechism, as for their being mighty in the Scriptures. This is the training, believe me, that God will honour. The Psalmist says of Him, " Thou hast magnified Thy Word above all Thy name" (Ps. 138:2); and I think that He gives an especial blessing to all who try to magnify it among men.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;See that your children read the Bible reverently. Train them to look on it, not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the Word of God, written by the Holy Ghost Himself, — all true, all profitable, and able to make us wise unto salvation, through faith which is in Christ Jesus. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See that they read it regularly. Train them to regard it as their soul’s daily food, -- as a thing essential to their soul’s daily health. I know well you can not make this anything more than a form; but there is no telling the amount of sin which a mere form may indirectly restrain. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See that they read it all. You need not shrink from bringing any doctrine before them. You need not fancy that the leading doctrines of Christianity are things which children cannot understand. Children understand far more of the Bible than we are apt to suppose. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tell them of sin, its guilt, its consequences, its power, its vileness: you will find they can comprehend something of this. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tell them of the Lord Jesus Christ, and His work for our salvation, — the atonement, the cross, the blood, the sacrifice, the intercession: you will discover there is something not beyond them in all this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Tell them of the work of the Holy Spirit in man’s heart, how He changes, and renews, and sanctifies, and purifies: you will soon see they can go along with you in some measure in this. In short, I suspect we have no idea how much a little child can take in of the length and breadth of the glorious gospel. They see far more of these things than we suppose. [3]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fill their minds with Scripture. Let the Word dwell in them richly. Give them the Bible, the whole Bible, even while they are young. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;6. Train them to a habit of prayer.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prayer is the very life-breath of true religion. It is one of the first evidences that a man is born again. "Behold," said the Lord of Saul, in the day he sent Ananias to him, "Behold, he prayeth" (Acts 9:11). He had begun to pray, and that was proof enough. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prayer was the distinguishing mark of the Lord’s people in the day that there began to be a separation between them and the world. "Then began men to call upon the name of the Lord" (Gen. 4:26). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prayer is the peculiarity of all real Christians now. They pray, — for they tell God their wants, their feelings, their desires, their fears; and mean what they say. The nominal Christian may repeat prayers, and good prayers too, but he goes no further. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prayer is the turning-point in a man’s soul. Our ministry is unprofitable, and our labour is vain, till you are brought to your knees. Till then, we have no hope about you. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prayer is one great secret of spiritual prosperity. When there is much private communion with God, your soul will grow like the grass after rain; when there is little, all will be at a standstill, you will barely keep your soul alive. Show me a growing Christian, a going forward Christian, a strong Christian, a flourishing Christian, and sure am I, he is one that speaks often with his Lord. He asks much, and he has much. He tells Jesus everything, and so he always knows how to act. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prayer is the mightiest engine God has placed in our hands. It is the best weapon to use in every difficulty, and the surest remedy in every trouble. It is the key that&lt;br /&gt;unlocks the treasury of promises, and the hand that draws forth grace and help in time of need. It is the silver trumpet God commands us to sound in all our necessity, and it is the cry He has promised always to attend to, even as a loving mother to the voice of her child. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prayer is the simplest means that man can use in coming to God. It is within reach of all, — the sick, the aged, the infirm, the paralytic, the blind, the poor, the unlearned, — all can pray. It avails you nothing to plead want of memory, and want of learning, and want of books, and want of scholarship in this matter. So long as you have a tongue to tell your soul’s state, you may and ought to pray. Those words, "Ye have not, because ye ask not" (Jas. 4:2), will be a fearful condemnation to many in the day of judgment. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Parents, if you love your children, do all that lies in your power to train them up to a habit of prayer. Show them how to begin. Tell them what to say. Encourage them to persevere. Remind them if they become careless and slack about it. Let it not be your fault, at any rate, if they never call on the name of the Lord. This, remember, is the first step in religion which a child is able to take. Long before he can read, you can teach him to kneel by his mother’s side, and repeat the simple words of prayer and praise which she puts in his mouth. And as the first steps in any undertaking are always the most important, so is the manner in which your children’s prayers are prayed, a point which deserves your closest attention. Few seem to know how much depends on this. You must beware lest they get into a way of saying them in a hasty, careless, and irreverent manner. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You must beware of giving up the oversight of this matter to servants and nurses, or of trusting too much to your children doing it when left to themselves. I cannot praise that mother who never looks after this most important part of her child’s daily life herself. Surely if there be any habit which your own hand and eye should help in forming, it is the habit of prayer. Believe me, if you never hear your children pray yourself, you are much to blame. You are little wiser than the bird described in Job, "which leaveth her eggs in the earth, and warmeth them in the dust, and forgetteth that the foot may crush them, or that the wild beast may break them. She is hardened against her young ones, as though they were not hers: her labour is in vain without fear" (Job 39:14-16). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prayer is, of all habits, the one which we recollect the longest. Many a grey- headed man could tell you how his mother used to make him pray in the days of his childhood. Other things have passed away from his mind perhaps. The church where he was taken to worship, the minister whom he heard preach, the companions who used to play with him, — all these, it may be, have passed from his memory, and left no mark behind. But you will often find it is far different with his first prayers. He will often be able to tell you where he knelt, and what he was taught to say, and even how his mother looked all the while. It will come up as fresh before his mind’s eye as if it was but yesterday. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reader, if you love your children, I charge you, do not let the seed-time of a prayerful habit pass away unimproved. If you train your children to anything, train them, at least, to a habit of prayer. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;7. Train them to habits of diligence, and regularity about public means of grace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tell them of the duty and privilege of going to the house of God, and joining in the prayers of the congregation. Tell them that wherever the Lord’s people are gathered together, there the Lord Jesus is present in an especial manner, and that those who absent themselves must expect, like the Apostle Thomas, to miss a blessing. Tell them of the importance of hearing the Word preached, and that it is God’s ordinance for converting, sanctifying, and building up the souls of men. Tell them how the Apostle Paul enjoins us not "to forsake the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is" (Heb. 10:25); but to exhort one another, to stir one another up to it, and so much the more as we see the day approaching. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I call it a sad sight in a church when nobody comes up to the Lord’s table but the elderly people, and the young men and the young women all turn away. But I call it a sadder sight still when no children are to be seen in a church, excepting those who come to the Sunday School, and are obliged to attend. Let none of this guilt lie at your doors. There are many boys and girls in every parish, besides those who come to school, and you who are their parents and friends should see to it that they come with you to church. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do not allow them to grow up with a habit of making vain excuses for not coming. Give them plainly to understand, that so long as they are under your roof it is the&lt;br /&gt;rule of your house for every one in health to honour the Lord’s house upon the Lord’s day, and that you reckon the Sabbath-breaker to be a murderer of his own soul. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See to it too, if it can be so arranged, that your children go with you to church, and sit near you when they are there. To go to church is one thing, but to behave well at church is quite another. And believe me, there is no security for good behaviour like that of having them under your own eye. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The minds of young people are easily drawn aside, and their attention lost, and every possible means should be used to counteract this. I do not like to see them coming to church by themselves, — they often get into bad company by the way, and so learn more evil on the Lord’s day than in all the rest of the week. Neither do I like to see what I call "a young people’s corner" in a church. They often catch habits of inattention and irreverence there, which it takes years to unlearn, if ever they are unlearned at all. What I like to see is a whole family sitting together, old and young, side by side, — men, women, and children, serving God according to their households.&lt;br /&gt;But there are some who say that it is useless to urge children to attend means of grace, because they cannot understand them. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would not have you listen to such reasoning. I find no such doctrine in the Old&lt;br /&gt;Testament. When Moses goes before Pharaoh (Ex. 10:9), I observe he says, "We will go with our young and with our old, with our sons and with our daughters: for we must hold a feast unto the Lord." When Joshua read the law (Josh. 8:35), I observe, "There was not a word which Joshua read not before all the congregation of Israel, with the women and the little ones, and the strangers that were conversant among them." "Thrice in the year," says Ex. 34:23, "shall all your men-children appear before the Lord God, the God of Israel." And when I turn to the New Testament, I find children mentioned there as partaking in public acts of religion as well as in the Old. When Paul was leaving the disciples at Tyre for the last time, I find it said (Acts&lt;br /&gt;21:5)," They all brought us on our way, with wives and children, till we were out of the city: and we kneeled down on the shore, and prayed." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Samuel, in the days of his childhood, appears to have ministered unto the Lord some time before he really knew Him. "Samuel did not yet know the Lord, neither was the word of the Lord yet revealed unto him" (1 Sam. 3:7). The Apostles themselves do not seem to have understood all that our Lord said at the time that it was spoken: "These things understood not His disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of Him" (John 12:16). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Parents, comfort your minds with these examples. Be not cast down because your&lt;br /&gt;children see not the full value of the means of grace now. Only train them up to a habit of regular attendance. Set it before their minds as a high, holy, and solemn duty, and believe me, the day will very likely come when they will bless you for your deed. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;8. Train them to a habit of faith.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I mean by this, you should train them up to believe what you say. You should try to make them feel confidence in your judgment, and respect your opinions, as better than their own. You should accustom them to think that, when you say a thing is bad for them, it must be bad, and when you say it is good for them, it must be good; that your knowledge, in short, is better than their own, and that they may rely implicitly on your word. Teach them to feel that what they know not now, they will probably know hereafter, and to be satisfied there is a reason and a needs-be for everything you require them to do. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who indeed can describe the blessedness of a real spirit of faith? Or rather, who can tell the misery that unbelief has brought upon the world? Unbelief made Eve eat the forbidden fruit, — she doubted the truth of God’s word: "Ye shall surely die." Unbelief made the old world reject Noah’s warning, and so perish in sin. Unbelief kept Israel in the wilderness, — it was the bar that kept them from entering the promised land. Unbelief made the Jews crucify the Lord of glory, — they believed not the voice of Moses and the prophets, though read to them every day. And unbelief is the reigning sin of man’s heart down to this very hour, — unbelief in God’s promises, — unbelief in God’s threatenings, — unbelief in our own sinfulness, — unbelief in our own danger, — unbelief in everything that runs counter to the pride and worldliness of our evil hearts. Reader, you train your children to little purpose if you do not train them to a habit of implicit faith, — faith in their parents’ word, confidence that what their parents say must be right. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have heard it said by some, that you should require nothing of children which they cannot understand that you should explain and give a reason for everything you desire them to do. I warn you solemnly against such a notion. I tell you plainly, I think it an unsound and rotten principle. No doubt it is absurd to make a mystery&lt;br /&gt;of everything you do, and there are many things which it is well to explain to children, in order that they may see that they are reasonable and wise. But to bring them up with the idea that they must take nothing on trust, that they, with their weak and imperfect understandings, must have the "why" and the "wherefore" made clear to them at every step they take, — this is indeed a fearful mistake, and likely to have the worst effect on their minds. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reason with your child if you are so disposed, at certain times, but never forget to keep him in mind (if you really love him) that he is but a child after all, — that he thinks as a child, he understands as a child, and therefore must not expect to know the reason of everything at once. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Set before him the example of Isaac, in the day when Abraham took him to offer him on Mount Moriah (Gen. 22). He asked his father that single question, "Where is the lamb for a burnt-offering?" and he got no answer but this, "God will provide Himself a lamb." How, or where, or whence, or in what manner, or by what means, — all this Isaac was not told; but the answer was enough. He believed that it would be well, because his father said so, and he was content. Tell your children, too, that we must all be learners in our beginnings, that there is an alphabet to be mastered in&lt;br /&gt;every kind of knowledge, — that the best horse in the world had need once to be&lt;br /&gt;broken, — that a day will come when they will see the wisdom of all your training. But in the meantime if you say a thing is right, it must be enough for them, — they must believe you, and be content.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Parents, if any point in training is important, it is this. I charge you by the affection you have to your children, use every means to train them up to a habit of faith. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;9. Train them to a habit of obedience.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is an object which it is worth any labour to attain. No habit, I suspect, has such an influence over our lives as this. Parents, determine to make your children obey you, though it may cost you much trouble, and cost them many tears. Let there be no questioning, and reasoning, and disputing, and delaying, and answering again. When you give them a command, let them see plainly that you will have it done. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obedience is the only reality. It is faith visible, faith acting, and faith incarnate. It is the test of real discipleship among the Lord’s people. "Ye are My friends if ye do whatsoever I command you" (John 15:14). It ought to be the mark of well- trained children, that they do whatsoever their parents command them. Where, in deed, is the honour which the fifth commandment enjoins, if fathers and mothers are not&lt;br /&gt;obeyed cheerfully, willingly, and at once? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Early obedience has all Scripture on its side. It is in Abraham’s praise, not merely he will train his family, but "he will command his children, and his household after him" (Gen. 18:19). It is said of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, that when "He was young He was subject to Mary and Joseph" (Luke 2:51). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Observe how implicitly Joseph obeyed the order of his father Jacob (Gen. 37:13). See how Isaiah speaks of it as an evil thing, when "the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient" (Isa. 3:5). Mark how the Apostle Paul names disobedience to parents as one of the bad signs of the latter days (2 Tim. 3:2). Mark how he singles out this grace of requiring obedience as one that should adorn a Christian minister: "a bishop must be one that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity." And again, "Let the deacons rule their children and their own houses well " (1 Tim. 3:4,12). And again, an elder must be one "having faithful children, children not accused of riot, or unruly" (Tit. 1:6). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Parents, do you wish to see your children happy? Take care, then, that you train them to obey when they are spoken to, — to do as they are bid. Believe me, we are not made for entire independence, — we are not fit for it. Even Christ’s freemen have a yoke to wear, they "serve the Lord Christ" (Col. 3:24). Children cannot learn too soon that this is a world in which we are not all intended to rule, and that we are never in our right place until we know how to obey our betters. Teach them to obey&lt;br /&gt;while young, or else they will be fretting against God all their lives long, and wear themselves out with the vain idea of being independent of His control. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reader, this hint is only too much needed. You will see many in this day who allow their children to choose and think for themselves long before they are able, and even make excuses for their disobedience, as if it were a thing not to be blamed. To my eyes, a parent always yielding, and a child always having its own way, are a most painful sight; — painful, because I see God’s appointed order of things inverted and turned upside down; — painful, because I feel sure the consequence to that child’s character in the end will be self-will, pride, and self-conceit. You must not wonder that men refuse to obey their Father which is in heaven, if you allow them, when children, to disobey their father who is upon earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Parents, if you love your children, let obedience be a motto and a watchword continually before their eyes. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;10. Train them to a habit of always speaking the truth.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Truth-speaking is far less common in the world than at first sight we are disposed to think. The whole truth, and nothing but the truth, is a golden rule which many would do well to bear in mind. Lying and prevarication are old sins. The devil was the father of them, — he deceived Eve by a bold lie, and ever since the fall it is a sin against which all the children of Eve have need to be on their guard. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only think how much falsehood and deceit there is in the world! How much exaggeration! How many additions are made to a simple story! How many things left out, if it does not serve the speaker’s interest to tell them! How few there are about us of whom we can say, we put unhesitating trust in their word! Verily the ancient Persians were wise in their generation: it was a leading point with them in educating their children, that they should learn to speak the truth. What an awful proof it is of man’s natural sinfulness, that it should be needful to name such a point at all!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reader, I would have you remark how often God is spoken of in the Old Testament as the God of truth. Truth seems to be especially set before us as a leading feature in the character of Him with whom we have to do. He never swerves from the straight line. He abhors lying and hypocrisy. Try to keep this continually before your children’s minds. Press upon them at all times, that less than the truth is a lie; that evasion, excuse-making, and exaggeration are all halfway houses towards what is false, and ought to be avoided. Encourage them in any circumstances to be straightforward, and, whatever it may cost them, to speak the truth. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I press this subject on your attention, not merely for the sake of your children’s character in the world, — though I might dwell much on this, — I urge it rather for your own comfort and assistance in all your dealings with them. You will find it a mighty help indeed, to be able always to trust their word. It will go far to prevent that habit of concealment, which so unhappily prevails sometimes among children. Openness and straightforwardness depend much upon a parent’s treatment of this matter in the days of our infancy. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;11. Train them to a habit of always redeeming the time.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Idleness is the devil’s best friend. It is the surest way to give him an opportunity of doing us harm. An idle mind is like an open door, and if Satan does not enter in himself by it, it is certain he will throw in something to raise bad thoughts in our souls. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No created being was ever meant to be idle. Service and work is the appointed portion of every creature of God. The angels in heaven work, — they are the Lord’s ministering servants, ever doing His will. Adam, in Paradise, had work, — he was appointed to dress the garden of Eden, and to keep it. The redeemed saints in glory will have work, "They rest not day and night singing praise and glory to Him who bought them." And man, weak, sinful man, must have something to do, or else his soul will soon get into an unhealthy state. We must have our hands filled, and our minds occupied with something, or else our imaginations will soon ferment and breed&lt;br /&gt;mischief. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what is true of us, is true of our children too. Alas, indeed, for the man that has nothing to do! The Jews thought idleness a positive sin: it was a law of theirs that every man should bring up his son to some useful trade, — and they were right. They knew the heart of man better than some of us appear to do. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Idleness made Sodom what she was. "This was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her" (Ezek. 16:49). Idleness had much to do with David’s awful sin with the wife of Uriah. — I see in 2 Sam. 11 that Joab went out to war against Ammon, "but David tarried still at Jerusalem." Was not that idle? And then it was that he saw Bathsheba, — and the next step we read of is his tremendous and miserable fall. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Verily, I believe that idleness has led to more sin than almost any other habit that could be named. I suspect it is the mother of many a work of the flesh, — the mother of adultery, fornication, drunkenness, and many other deeds of darkness that I have not time to name. Let your own conscience say whether I do not speak the truth. You were idle, and at once the devil knocked at the door and came in. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And indeed I do not wonder; — everything in the world around us seems to teach the same lesson. It is the still water which becomes stagnant and impure: the running, moving streams are always clear. If you have steam machinery, you must work it, or it soon gets out of order. If you have a horse, you must exercise him; he is never so well as when he has regular work. If you would have good bodily health yourself, you must take exercise. If you always sit still, your body is sure at length to complain. And just so is it with the soul. The active moving mind is a hard mark for the devil to shoot at. Try to be always full of useful employment, and thus your enemy will find it difficult to get room to sow tares. Reader, I ask you to set these things before the minds of your children. Teach them the value of time, and try to make them learn the habit of using it well. It pains me to see children idling over what they have in hand, whatever it may be. I love to see them active and industrious, and giving their whole heart to all they do; giving their whole heart to lessons, when they have to learn; — giving their whole heart even to their amusements, when they go to play. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But if you love them well, let idleness be counted a sin in your family. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;12. Train them with a constant fear of over-indulgence.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the one point of all on which you have most need to be on your guard. It is natural to be tender and affectionate towards your own flesh and blood, and it is the excess of this very tenderness and affection which you have to fear. Take heed that it does not make you blind to your children’s faults, and deaf to all advice about them. Take heed lest it make you overlook bad conduct, rather than have&lt;br /&gt;the pain of inflicting punishment and correction. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know well that punishment and correction are disagreeable things. Nothing is&lt;br /&gt;more unpleasant than giving pain to those we love, and calling forth their tears. But so long as hearts are what hearts are, it is vain to suppose, as a general rule, that children can ever be brought up without correction. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Spoiling is a very expressive word, and sadly full of meaning. Now it is the shortest way to spoil children to let them have their own way, — to allow them to do wrong and not to punish them for it. Believe me, you must not do it, whatever pain it may cost you unless you wish to ruin your children’s souls. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You cannot say that Scripture does not speak expressly on this subject: "He that spareth his rod, hateth his son; but he that loveth him, chasteneth him betimes" (Prov. 13:24). "Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying" (Prov. 19:18). "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child: but the rod of correction shall drive it from him" (Prov. 22:15). "Withhold not correction from the child, for if thou beatest him with the rod he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell" (Prov. 23:13,14). "The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame." "Correct thy son, and he shall give thee rest, yea, he shall give delight to thy soul" (Prov. 29:15,17). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How strong and forcible are these texts! How melancholy is the fact, that in many Christian families they seem almost unknown! Their children need reproof, but it is hardly ever given; they need correction, but it is hardly ever employed. And yet this book of Proverbs is not obsolete and unfit for Christians. It is given by inspiration of God, and profitable. It is given for our learning, even as the Epistles to the Romans and Ephesians. Surely the believer who brings up his children without attention to its counsel is making himself wise above that which is written, and greatly errs. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fathers and mothers, I tell you plainly, if you never punish your children when they are in fault, you are doing them a grievous wrong. I warn you, this is the rock on which the saints of God, in every age, have only too frequently made shipwreck. I would fain persuade you to be wise in time, and keep clear of it. See it in Eli’s case. His sons Hophni and Phinehas "made themselves vile, and he restrained them not." He gave them no more than a tame and lukewarm reproof, when he ought to have rebuked them sharply. In one word, he honoured his sons above God. And what was the end of these things? He lived to hear of the death of both his sons in battle, and his own grey hairs were brought down with sorrow to the grave (1 Sam. 2:22-29, 3:13). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See, too, the case of David. Who can read without pain the history of his children, and their sins? Amnon’s incest, — Absalom’s murder and proud rebellion, — Adonijah’s scheming ambition: truly these were grievous wounds for the man after God’s own heart to receive from his own house. But was there no fault on his side? I&lt;br /&gt;fear there can be no doubt there was. I find a clue to it all in the account of Adonijah in 1 Kings 1:6: "His father had not displeased him at any time in saying, Why hast thou done so?" There was the foundation of all the mischief. David was an over-indulgent father, — a father who let his children have their own way, — and he reaped according as he had sown. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Parents, I beseech you, for your children’s sake, beware of over-indulgence. I call on you to remember, it is your first duty to consult their real interests, and not their fancies and likings; — to train them, not to humour them — to profit, not merely to please. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You must not give way to every wish and caprice of your child’s mind, however much you may love him. You must not let him suppose his will is to be everything, and that he has only to desire a thing and it will be done. Do not, I pray you, make your children idols, lest God should take them away, and break your idol, just to convince you of your folly. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Learn to say "No" to your children. Show them that you are able to refuse whatever you think is not fit for them. Show them that you are ready to punish disobedience, and that when you speak of punishment, you are not only ready to threaten, but also to perform. Do not threaten too much. [4] Threatened folks, and threatened faults, live long. Punish seldom, but really and in good earnest, — frequent and slight punishment is a wretched system indeed. [5]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Beware of letting small faults pass unnoticed under the idea "it is a little one." There are no little things in training children; all are important. Little weeds need plucking up as much as any. Leave them alone, and they will soon be great. Reader, if there be any point which deserves your attention, believe me, it is this one. It is one that will give you trouble, I know. But if you do not take trouble with your children when they are young, they will give you trouble when they are old. Choose which you prefer. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;13. Train them remembering continually how God trains His children.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bible tells us that God has an elect people, — a family in this world. All poor&lt;br /&gt;sinners who have been convinced of sin, and fled to Jesus for peace, make up that family. All of us who really believe on Christ for salvation are its members. Now God the Father is ever training the members of this family for their everlasting abode with Him in heaven. He acts as a husbandman pruning his vines, that they may bear more fruit. He knows the character of each of us, — our besetting sins, — our weaknesses, — our peculiar infirmities, — our special wants. He knows our works and where we dwell, who are our companions in life, and what are our trials, what our temptations, and what are our privileges. He knows all these things, and is ever&lt;br /&gt;ordering all for our good. He allots to each of us, in His providence, the very things we need, in order to bear the most fruit, — as much of sunshine as we can stand, and as much of rain, — as much of bitter things as we can bear, and as much of sweet. Reader, if you would train your children wisely, mark well how God the Father trains His. He doeth all things well; the plan which He adopts must be right. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See, then, how many things there are which God withholds from His children. Few could be found, I suspect, among them who have not had desires which He has never been pleased to fulfil. There has often been some one thing they wanted to attain, and yet there has always been some barrier to prevent attainment. It has been just as if God was placing it above our reach, and saying, "This is not good for you; this must not be." Moses desired exceedingly to cross over Jordan, and see the goodly land of promise; but you will remember his desire was never granted. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See, too, how often God leads His people by ways which seem dark and mysterious to our eyes. We cannot see the meaning of all His dealings with us; we cannot see the reasonableness of the path in which our feet are treading. Sometimes so many trials have assailed us, — so many difficulties encompassed us, — that we have not been able to discover the needs-be of it all. It has been just as if our Father was taking us by the hand into a dark place and saying, "Ask no questions, but follow Me." There was a direct road from Egypt to Canaan, yet Israel was not led into it; but round, through the wilderness. And this seemed hard at the time. "The soul of the people," we are told, "was much discouraged because of the way" (Exod. 13:17; Num. 21:4). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See, also, how often God chastens His people with trial and affliction. He sends them crosses and disappointments; He lays them low with sickness; He strips them of property and friends; He changes them from one position to another; He visits&lt;br /&gt;them with things most hard to flesh and blood; and some of us have well- nigh fainted under the burdens laid upon us. We have felt pressed beyond strength, and have been almost ready to murmur at the hand which chastened us. Paul the Apostle had a thorn in the flesh appointed him, some bitter bodily trial, no doubt, though we know not exactly what it was. But this we know, — he besought the Lord thrice that it might be removed; yet it was not taken away (2 Cor. 12:8,9). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, reader, notwithstanding all these things, did you ever hear of a single child of God who thought his Father did not treat him wisely? No, I am sure you never did. God’s children would always tell you, in the long run, it was a blessed thing they did not have their own way, and that God had done far better for them than they could have done for themselves. Yes! And they could tell you, too, that God’s dealings had provided more happiness for them than they ever would have obtained themselves, and that His way, however dark at times, was the way of pleasantness and the path of peace. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I ask you to lay to heart the lesson which God’s dealings with His people is meant to teach you. Fear not to withhold from your child anything you think will do him&lt;br /&gt;harm, whatever his own wishes may be. This is God’s plan. Hesitate not to lay on him commands, of which he may not at present see the wisdom, and to guide him in ways which may not now seem reasonable to his mind. This is God’s plan. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shrink not from chastising and correcting him whenever you see his soul’s health requires it, however painful it may be to your feelings; and remember medicines for the mind must not be rejected because they are bitter. This is God’s plan. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And be not afraid, above all, that such a plan of training will make your child&lt;br /&gt;unhappy. I warn you against this delusion. Depend on it, there is no surer road to unhappiness than always having our own way. To have our wills checked and denied is a blessed thing for us; it makes us value enjoyments when they come. To be indulged perpetually is the way to be made selfish; and selfish people and spoiled children, believe me, are seldom happy. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reader, be not wiser than God; — train your children as He trains His. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;14. Train them remembering continually the influence of your own example.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Instruction, and advice, and commands will profit little, unless they are backed up by the pattern of your own life. Your children will never believe you are in earnest, and really wish them to obey you, so long as your actions contradict your counsel.&lt;br /&gt;Archbishop Tillotson made a wise remark when he said, "To give children good instruction, and a bad example, is but beckoning to them with the head to show&lt;br /&gt;them the way to heaven, while we take them by the hand and lead them in the way&lt;br /&gt;to hell." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We little know the force and power of example. No one of us can live to himself in this world; we are always influencing those around us, in one way or another, either for good or for evil, either for God or for sin. — They see our ways, they mark our conduct, they observe our behaviour, and what they see us practise, that they may fairly suppose we think right. And never, I believe, does example tell so powerfully as it does in the case of parents and children. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fathers and mothers, do not forget that children learn more by the eye than they do by the ear. No school will make such deep marks on character as home. The best of schoolmasters will not imprint on their minds as much as they will pick up at your fireside. Imitation is a far stronger principle with children than memory. What they see has a much stronger effect on their minds than what they are told.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take care, then, what you do before a child. It is a true proverb, "Who sins before a child, sins double." Strive rather to be a living epistle of Christ, such as your families can read, and that plainly too. Be an example of reverence for the Word of God, reverence in prayer, reverence for means of grace, reverence for the Lord’s day. — Be an example in words, in temper, in diligence, in temperance, in faith, in charity, in kindness, in humility. Think not your children will practise what they do not see you&lt;br /&gt;do. You are their model picture, and they will copy what you are. Your reasoning and your lecturing, your wise commands and your good advice; all this they may not understand, but they can understand your life. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Children are very quick observers; very quick in seeing through some kinds of hypocrisy, very quick in finding out what you really think and feel, very quick in adopting all your ways and opinions. You will often find as the father is, so is the son. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember the word that the conqueror Caesar always used to his soldiers in a battle. He did not say "Go forward," but "Come." So it must be with you in training your children. They will seldom learn habits which they see you despise, or walk in paths in which you do not walk yourself. He that preaches to his children what he does not practise, is working a work that never goes forward. It is like the fabled web of Penelope of old, who wove all day, and unwove all night. Even so, the parent who tries to train without setting a good example is building with one hand, and pulling down with the other. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;15. Train them, remembering continually the power of sin.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I name this shortly, in order to guard you against unscriptural expectations. You must not expect to find your children’s minds a sheet of pure white paper, and to have no trouble if you only use right means. I warn you plainly you will find no such thing. It is painful to see how much corruption and evil there is in a young child’s heart, and how soon it begins to bear fruit. Violent tempers, self- will, pride, envy, sullenness, passion, idleness, selfishness, deceit, cunning, falsehood, hypocrisy, a terrible aptness to learn what is bad, a painful slowness to learn what is good, a readiness to pretend anything in order to gain their own ends, — all these things, or some of them, you must be prepared to see, even in your own flesh and blood. In little ways they will creep out at a very early age; it is almost startling to observe how naturally they seem to spring up. Children require no schooling to learn to sin. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But you must not be discouraged and cast down by what you see. You must not think it a strange and unusual thing, that little hearts can be so full of sin. It is the only portion which our father Adam left us; it is that fallen nature with which we come into the world; it is that inheritance which belongs to us all. Let it rather make you more diligent in using every means which seem most likely, by God’s blessing, to counteract the mischief. Let it make you more and more careful, so far as in you lies, to keep your children out of the way of temptation. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Never listen to those who tell you your children are good, and well brought up, and can be trusted. Think rather that their hearts are always inflammable as tinder. At their very best, they only want a spark to set their corruptions alight. Parents are&lt;br /&gt;seldom too cautious. Remember the natural depravity of your children, and take care. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;16. Train them remembering continually the promises of Scripture.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I name this also shortly, in order to guard you against discouragement. You have a plain promise on your side, "Train up your child in the way he should go, and when he is old he shall not depart from it" (Prov. 22:6). Think what it is to have a promise like this. Promises were the only lamp of hope which cheered the hearts of the patriarchs before the Bible was written. Enoch, Noah, Abrahanm, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, — all lived on a few promises, and prospered in their souls. Promises are the cordials which in every age have supported and strengthened the believer. He that has got a plain text upon his side need never be cast down. Fathers and mothers, when your hearts are failing, and ready to halt, look at the word of this text, and take comfort.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think who it is that promises. It is not the word of a man, who may lie or repent; it is the word of the King of kings, who never changes. Hath He said a thing, and shall He not do it? Or hath He spoken, and shall He not make it good? Neither is anything too hard for Him to perform. The things that are impossible with men are possible with God. Reader, if we get not the benefit of the promise we are dwelling upon, the fault is not in Him, but in ourselves. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think, too, what the promise contains, before you refuse to take comfort from it. It speaks of a certain time when good training shall especially bear fruit, — "when a child is old." Surely there is comfort in this. You may not see with your own eyes the result of careful training, but you know not what blessed fruits may not spring from it, long after you are dead and gone. It is not God’s way to give everything at once. "Afterwards’ is the time when He often chooses to work, both in the things of nature and in the things of grace. "Afterward" is the season when affliction bears the peaceable fruit of righteousness (Heb. 12:11). "Afterward" was the time when the son who refused to work in his father’s vineyard repented and went (Matt. 21:29). And "afterward" is the time to which parents must look forward if they see not success at once, — you must sow in hope and plant in hope. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cast thy bread upon the waters," saith the Spirit, "for thou shalt find it after many days" (Eceles. 11:1). Many children, I doubt not, shall rise up in the day of judgment, and bless their parents for good training, who never gave any signs of having profited by it during their parents’ lives. Go forward then in faith, and be sure that your labour shall not be altogether thrown away. Three times did Elijah stretch himself upon the widow’s child before it revived. Take example from him, and persevere. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;17. Train them, lastly, with continual prayer for a blessing on all you do.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Without the blessing of the Lord, your best endeavours will do no good. He has the hearts of all men in His hands, and except He touch the hearts of your children by His Spirit, you will weary yourself to no purpose. Water, therefore, the seed you sow on their minds with unceasing prayer. The Lord is far more willing to hear than we to pray; far more ready to give blessings than we to ask them ; — but He loves to be entreated for them. And I set this matter of prayer before you, as the top-stone and seal of all you do. I suspect the child of many prayers is seldom cast away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Look upon your children as Jacob did on his; he tells Esau they are "the children which God hath graciously given thy servant" (Gen. 33:5). Look on them as Joseph did on his; he told his father, "They are the sons whom God hath given me" (Gen. 48:9). Count them with the Psalmist to be "an heritage and reward from the Lord" (Ps. 127:3). And then ask the Lord, with a holy boldness, to be gracious and merciful to His own gifts. Mark how Abraham intercedes for Ishmael, because he loved him, "Oh that Ishmael might live before thee" (Gen. 17:18). See how Manoah speaks to the angel about Samson, "How shall we order the child, and how shall we do unto him?" (Judg. 13:12). Observe how tenderly Job cared for his children’s souls, "He offered burnt-offerings according to the number of them all, for he said, It may be my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually" (Job 1:5). Parents, if you love your children, go and do likewise. You cannot name their names before the mercy-seat too often. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now, reader, in conclusion, let me once more press upon you the necessity and importance of using every single means in your power, if you would train children for heaven. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I know well that God is a sovereign God, and doeth all things according to the counsel of His own will. I know that Rehoboam was the son of Solomon, and Manasseh the son of Hezekiah, and that you do not always see godly parents having a godly seed. But I know also that God is a God who works by means, and sure am I,&lt;br /&gt;if you make light of such means as I have mentioned, your children are not likely to turn out well. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fathers and mothers, you may take your children to be baptized, and have them enrolled in the ranks of Christ’s Church; — you may get godly sponsors to answer for them, and help you by their prayers; — you may send them to the best of schools, and give them Bibles and Prayer Books, and fill them with head knowledge but if all this time there is no regular training at home, I tell you plainly, I fear it will go hard&lt;br /&gt;in the end with your children’s souls. Home is the place where habits are formed; — home is the place where the foundations of character are laid; — home gives the bias to our tastes, and likings, and opinions. See then, I pray you, that there be careful training at home. Happy indeed is the man who can say, as Bolton did upon his dying bed, to his children, "I do believe not one of you will dare to meet me before the tribunal of Christ in an unregenerate state." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fathers and mothers, I charge you solemnly before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, take every pains to train your children in the way they should go. I charge you not merely for the sake of your children’s souls; I charge you for the sake of your own future comfort and peace. Truly it is your interest so to do. Truly your own happiness in great measure depends on it. Children have ever been the bow from which the sharpest arrows have pierced man’s heart. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Children have mixed the bitterest cups that man has ever had to drink. Children&lt;br /&gt;have caused the saddest tears that man has ever had to shed. Adam could tell you so; Jacob could tell you so; David could tell you so. There are no sorrows on earth like those which children have brought upon their parents. Oh! take heed, lest your own neglect should lay up misery for you in your old age. Take heed, lest you weep under the ill-treatment of a thankless child, in the days when your eye is dim, and your natural force abated. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If ever you wish your children to be the restorers of your life, and the nourishers of your old age, — if you would have them blessings and not curses — joys and not sorrows — Judahs and not Reubens — Ruths and not Orpahs, — if you would not, like Noah, be ashamed of their deeds, and, like Rebekah, be made weary of your life by them: if this be your wish, remember my advice betimes, train them while young in the right way. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And as for me, I will conclude by putting up my prayer to God for all who read this paper, that you may all be taught of God to feel the value of your own souls. This is one reason why baptism is too often a mere form, and Christian training despised and disregarded. Too often parents feel not for themselves, and so they feel not for their children. They do not realize the tremendous difference between a state of nature and a state of grace, and therefore they are content to let them alone. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the Lord teach you all that sin is that abominable thing which God hateth. Then, I know you will mourn over the sins of your children, and strive to pluck them out as brands from the fire. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Lord teach you all how precious Christ is, and what a mighty and complete work He hath done for our salvation. Then, I feel confident you will use every means to bring your children to Jesus, that they may live through Him. The Lord teach you all your need of the Holy Spirit, to renew, sanctify, and quicken your souls. Then, I feel sure you will urge your children to pray for Him without ceasing, and never rest till He has come down into their hearts with power, and made them new creatures. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Lord grant this, and then I have a good hope that you will indeed train up your children well, — train well for this life, and train well for the life to come; train well for earth, and train well for heaven; train them for God, for Christ, and for eternity. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Notes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;[1] As a minister, I cannot help remarking that there is hardly any subject about which people seem so tenacious as they are about their children. I have sometimes been perfectly astonished at the slowness of sensible Christian parents to allow that their own children are in fault, or deserve blame. There are not a few persons to whom I would far rather speak about their own sins, than tell them their children had done anything wrong. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;[2] "He has seen but little of life who does not discern everywhere the effect of education on men’s opinions and habits of thinking. The children bring out of the nursery that which displays itself throughout their lives." — Cecil. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;[3] As to the age when the religious instruction of a child should begin, no general rule can be laid down. The mind seems to open in some children much more quickly than in others. We seldom begin too early. There are wonderful examples on record of what a child can attain to, even at three years old. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;[4] Some parents and nurses have a way of saying, "Naughty child," to a boy or girl on every slight occasion, and often without good cause. It is a very foolish habit. Words of blame should never be used without real reason. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;[5] As to the best way of punishing a child, no general rule can be laid down. The characters of children are so exceedingly different, that what would be a severe punishment to one child, would be no punishment at all to another. I only beg to enter my decided protest against the modern notion that no child ought ever to be whipped. Doubtless some parents use bodily correction far too much, and far too violently; but many others, I fear, use it far too little.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God bless all the fathers who read this with aheartfelt desire to exemlpify their heavenly Father in their parenting of the their children!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-203381889374684286?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/5AzzuT5cf_E" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/203381889374684286/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=203381889374684286" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/203381889374684286" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/203381889374684286" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/5AzzuT5cf_E/jc-ryle-on-parenting.html" title="J.C. Ryle on Parenting" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/Sj1nE7zqXMI/AAAAAAAAAYs/MlxaEr9f0lY/s72-c/jcryle.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/06/jc-ryle-on-parenting.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-4866278014015010707</id><published>2009-06-12T12:16:00.011-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-14T14:14:27.820-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bible Study" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pastoral Ministry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><title type="text">Biblical Hermeneutics and Female Leadership in the Church</title><content type="html">&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;This post was a paper originally written in 1995, when our church was dealing with the issue of women pastors and women teaching over men in the Baptist General Conference. We left the BGC many years ago, but some have still found this paper to be helpful. I hope the readers of this blog may find it helpful as well.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most of us are aware of the ongoing debate among many evangelicals today over the nature of women's roles in the church, particularly with regard to the question of whether or not women may be included in leadership positions. Although I have only just scratched the surface in my own study, upon examination of some of the literature representing the various viewpoints, it wasn't long before I discovered the difficult and sometimes complex issues involved. There are many hard questions which need to be answered by evangelical Christians concerning these issues, especially in the face of much cultural, social and sometimes political pressure. I do not believe, however, that we may responsibly avoid clearly answering such questions, especially in the interest of the full participation of gifted women in the body of Christ. In the end, though, there is only one basic question which has to be answered: “What does the Bible teach about the role of women in the church?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is because we are most interested in discerning the Biblical teaching on the matter that the real debate among evangelical Christians is a hermeneutical one. And, as I see it, it really comes down to several key questions regarding the method of interpretation of certain kinds of Biblical data. I shall seek to highlight these questions in the following pages through an overview and brief examination of some of the various pertinent Biblical texts. I shall first examine as a group those Biblical texts which seem to view favorably women in positions of authority and teaching over men. This shall be followed by a brief discussion in turn of 1 Tim. 2:11-12 and Galatians 3:28.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are a number of texts which are often cited as indicating either that women were in positions of leadership, and possibly teaching, over men or that they had gifts which would enable them to fulfill these kinds of functions and should therefore not be denied them. A rather long list of these kinds of texts is sometimes presented by those who would argue for women's ordination, or at least for some kind of active leadership teaching role for women in the church. For example, John Stott argues that “a strong &lt;em&gt;prima facie&lt;/em&gt; biblical case can be made for active female leadership in the church, including a teaching ministry” (&lt;em&gt;Decisive Issues&lt;/em&gt; 275). He then goes on to cite numerous Biblical examples, which include: Hulda (2 Kings 22:11 ff); Miriam (Exodus 15:20); Deborah (Judges 4-5); Phillip's four daughters (Acts 21:9); women who prayed and prophesied at Corinth (1 Cor. 11:5); Priscilla (Acts 18:26); and Junias (Rom. 16:17). In addition, Stott observes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Paul seems to have had women helpers in his entourage, as Jesus had had in his.&lt;br /&gt;It is impressive to see the number of women he mentions in his letters. Euodia and Syntyche in Philippi he describes as “fellow-workers” (a word he also applied to men like Timothy and Titus), who had “contended” at his side “in the case of the gospel.” And in Romans 16 he refers appreciatively to eight women. He begins by commending “our sister Phoebe, a servant (or perhaps 'deacon') of the church in Cenchrea,” who had been “a great help to many people” including Paul himself, and then sends greetings (among others) to Mary, Tryphena, Tryphosa and Persis, all of whom, he says, have worked “hard” or “very hard” in the Lord's service. (275- 276)&lt;/blockquote&gt;It is this kind of evidence which Richard and Catherine Clark Kroeger, in their recent book, &lt;em&gt;I Suffer Not a Woman&lt;/em&gt;, believe forces us to seek a new interpretation of 1 Tim. 2:11-12, which states that a women should “quietly receive instructions with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet” (NASB). The Kroegers lament that “many evangelicals view all Biblical passages about the role and ministry of women through the lens of 1 Tim. 2:12. It becomes the key verse on women, the one on which all others turn” (12). Here I believe the Kroegers have pin-pointed a crucial hermeneutical question. Should the Biblical passages included in Stott's &lt;em&gt;prima facie&lt;/em&gt; argument cause us to limit in some way the 1 Tim. 2:12 passage, or should we allow the apparently universal and unambiguous statement of 1 Tim. 2:12 to control our understanding of the kinds of texts which Stott lists? This is not an easy question to answer, and it should be pointed out up front that there are a number of prominent evangelicals who agree with the Kroegers and Stott. For example, Millard J. Erickson, in his &lt;em&gt;Christian Theology&lt;/em&gt;, lists basically the same Pauline passages as Stott and the Kroegers and agrees that “these indications of Paul's conception of the usefulness of women in ministering modify those passages where he seems to restrict their activities. The restrictive passages, then, should be seen as relating to particular local situations (e.g., 1 Cor. 14:33-36)” (549).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It must be admitted that on the surface this argument does seem to be compelling, and it should not be dismissed lightly, especially with advocates the like of Stott and Erickson. Nevertheless, if 1 Tim. 2:12 is in its own context clearly universally applicable for the church in all ages, then I do not believe that the above argument is convincing. I do not see how a clear, didactic utterance intended to set forth the respective functions of men and women regarding authority and teaching in the church could be overruled by a series of texts such as those put forth by Stott. For example, such historical narrative texts as those concerning Miriam (Exodus 15:21-22) and Deborah (Judges 4-5) simply are not intended to teach the correct role of women in the New Testament church, and neither of them imply in any way a universal leadership and teaching role for women in all ages. For instance, though we know that Miriam was a prophetess, there is no real evidence that she was in a specific position of authority over men. And even if there were such evidence, there is no textual evidence at all that such a thing should be considered as normative for Israel, let alone the New Testament church. Also, when one considers the example of Deborah, who was unquestionably in a position of leadership and authority over men, it is again not at all clear in the text that this was to be regarded in any way as a norm. In fact, I would contend that there is clear evidence to the contrary. It should be noticed, for instance, that in the beginning of the book the author describes a repeated cycle in which Israel would fall into sin, then they would be overwhelmed by their enemies as a judgment from God, then the people would repent and cry out to God for help, then then He would raise up a judge who would bring deliverance from their enemies, and then the people would fall into sin and and start the cycle all over again (2:11-19). In this passage we are twice told that “the LORD raised up judges” (vs. 16, 18). But later in the account of Deborah, the author of Judges is sure to point out that “the sons of Israel &lt;em&gt;came up to her for judgment&lt;/em&gt;” (Judges 4:5, italics mine). Although &lt;em&gt;God&lt;/em&gt; made Deborah a prophetess, it was &lt;em&gt;the people&lt;/em&gt; who sought to make her a judge. It is no wonder, then, that when Balak later refused to go into battle without her, Deborah chided him with the words, “I will surely go with you; nevertheless there will be no glory for you in the journey you are taking, for the LORD will sell Sisera into the hand of a woman” (4:9). And we should also remember that Judges is a book written not only to tell about that period of Israel's history, but also to show how decadent and abnormal it was! So, rather than seeing Deborah as an example of God's intention for women in every age, one may instead take it as just another indictment against a wicked nation who continually refused to do things God's way. So, again, if 1 Tim. 2:12 is a prescriptive passage intended to be universally binding in all ages, then such arguments from descriptive historical narrative passages do not seem to me to be valid.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what about Acts 18:26 where Priscilla and Aquilla are said to have “explained” to Apollos “the way of God more accurately?” Well, as Stott himself points out, this is an instance of informal and private teaching rather than official and public (276), and it does not seem to me that this kind of private “team-teaching” (if it may be called that) on the part of married couples is in view in 1 Tim. 2:12, which does appear to be referring to public gatherings. In fact, the observation that the word for “explained” in Acts 18:26 is &lt;em&gt;ektithemi&lt;/em&gt; (rather than &lt;em&gt;didasko&lt;/em&gt; as in 1 Tim. 2:12) may serve to further informalize the passage, distancing in even more from the context of 1 Tim 2.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lastly, in those passages where Paul commends women as fellow laborers in the gospel (e.g. Phil. 4:2-3), or in the case of Phoebe who is commended as a “servant of the church,” there is no indication that any of these women were in positions of authority or of teaching over men.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In summary, I do not believe it hermeneutically valid to set aside a clear passage of Scripture on the basis of ambiguous or exceptional texts, especially when none of these texts has as its intent instruction concerning the respective roles of men and women in the church. However, all that I have said up to this point assumes that 1 Tim. 2:11-12, in particular, may only be interpreted legitimately as laying down a universal norm for the church in all ages. I shall now seek, then, to demonstrate the validity of this interpretation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As briefly noted above, 1 Tim. 2:11-12 reads, “Let a woman quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.” The question we must answer is, “Is this text to be taken as universally binding on the church in all ages, or may we see it as limited to a specific situation Paul is addressing at the church in Ephesus?” My answer is that we may&lt;em&gt; not&lt;/em&gt; see it as strictly applicable only to that occasion unless there is Biblical warrant to do so. D.A. Carson, in his &lt;em&gt;Exegetical Fallacies&lt;/em&gt;, points out the error of taking any other position. He notes that Philip B. Payne&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;argues that 1 Tim. 2:11-15 is directed toward a local abuse, and therefore that its teaching should not be universally applied. The reasoning my be analyzed thus:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Teaching occasioned by a local situation is not universally applicable.&lt;br /&gt;The teaching in question is occasioned by a local situation.&lt;br /&gt;Therefore the teaching in question is not universally applicable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this instance, the form of the argument is valid, but the first premise is too generalized to be believable. In one sense, all the New Testament documents are “occasional”; so unless one enunciates more clearly just what features are no longer binding . . . we shall be left with the uncomfortable conclusion that &lt;em&gt;nothing&lt;/em&gt; in the New Testament is binding on the consciences of modern believers. (101)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I agree with Carson's conclusion that we must enunciate more clearly a means of determining what is to be considered normative and what is not. I believe that William Larkin has ably done just that in his recent – and underappreciated – work, &lt;em&gt;Culture and Biblical Hermeneutics: Interpreting and Applying the Authoritative Word in a Relativistic Age&lt;/em&gt;. Larkin describes four ways for determining whether or not a specific teaching of Scripture may be considered normative. Any teaching must be considered normative unless it meets one of the following criteria:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;(1) Indirect application is called for if the direct recipient of the teaching is limited by the immediate context.&lt;br /&gt;(2) Presentation of specific historical or cultural conditions for obedience to the command or reception of a promise indicates that a limited application was intended.&lt;br /&gt;(3) A limited cultural rationale shows that the writer intended to limit the extent of&lt;br /&gt;application.&lt;br /&gt;(4) The broader context of subsequent revelation can explicitly set aside previous revelation. (354-456)&lt;/blockquote&gt;These criteria I believe to be solid hermeneutical principles which may be applied to the text of 1 Tim. 2:11-12. And, when this is done, we find not only that it does not meet any of these four criteria, but that there is in fact a rationale given by Paul that &lt;em&gt;requires&lt;/em&gt; that these verses be taken as universally binding in all ages. Paul's rationale for the command is found in the next verse in the assertion, “For it was Adam that was first created and then Eve” (vs. 13). Thus Paul appeals to the creation order, and one can get no more universally binding than that! Others may argue at this point, however, that Larkin's basic assumption, being that “&lt;em&gt;all biblical teaching – commands, promises, and statements of truth – is normative unless Scripture explicitly indicates otherwise&lt;/em&gt;” (354), is misguided. One such person would be Millard Erickson who, after listing a number of problems associated with failing to appropriately contemporize Biblical teaching, asserts that “in actuality, we should be diligent in attempting to determine the underlying intent of the passage or the signification within the signification, even where none of these problems is evident. Otherwise, we are simply assuming that the Bible is speaking in an absolute or universal fashion whenever we do not have reason to do otherwise” (&lt;em&gt;Evangelical Interpretation,&lt;/em&gt; 58-59). Perhaps, then, we should briefly examine Erickson's suggested approach to see how 1 Tim. 2:11-12 would fair given his own assumption, which seems to be that we should &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; see the Bible as speaking universally unless we have explicit indication to do so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In his &lt;em&gt;Christian Theology&lt;/em&gt;, in a chapter entitled “Contemporizing the Christian Message,” Erickson lists the following five “criteria of permanence:”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;(1) Constancy across cultures.&lt;br /&gt;(2) Universal setting.&lt;br /&gt;(3) A recognized permanent factor as a base.&lt;br /&gt;(4) Indissoluble link with an experience regarded as essential.&lt;br /&gt;(5) Final position within progressive revelation. (120-124)&lt;/blockquote&gt;At least four of these criteria (1, 2, 3 and 5) appear to be very solid and helpful principles to aid us in our understanding of what is to be considered normative in Scripture. And, after applying these criteria to 1 Tim. 2:11-12, we once again discover that Paul's prohibition concerning women is intended as a universal norm for the church in all ages. For example, Paul gives “a recognized permanent factor as a base” for his command, namely that it is based on God's intention in the creation order (1 Tim. 2:13).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have thus seen so far that 1 Tim. 2:11-12 must be taken as normative for the church universally and in all ages, even after having applied “criteria of permanence” from opposite ends of the evangelical spectrum concerning this issue. And we have further seen that this position mus be taken because Paul's rationale for the command concerning women is based upon the creation order. There are those, however, who would concede this point but would argue that Paul gives this rationale merely to establish the issue of authority, and only forbids women to teach over men in situations where authority is being usurped over them. Stott, for example, notes that:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Paul expresses two antitheses, the first between to “learn in quietness” or “be silent” and “to teach,” and the second between “full submission” and “authority.” The latter is the substantial point, confirms Paul's constant teaching about female submission to male headship, and is firmly rooted in the biblical account of creation (“for Adam was formed first, then Eve”). But the other instruction (the requirement of silence and the prohibition of teaching) . . . seems to be an &lt;em&gt;expression&lt;/em&gt; of the authority-submission syndrome, rather than an &lt;em&gt;addition&lt;/em&gt; to it. (277)&lt;/blockquote&gt;Stott thus concludes “that there are situations in which it is entirely proper for women to teach, and to teach men, provided that in so doing they are not usurping an improper authority over them” (278). This reasoning, however, is simply not valid. I agree that women teaching over men is an expression of authority over them, but I see no good reason in the text for limiting Paul's rationale only to certain situations of teaching over men and not to others. That is, there is no evidence from the text that Paul has in view here any limitation such as Stott supposes. If it is wrong for women to have authority over men for the reason Paul gives, and if teaching over men by definition expresses this kind of authority, then teaching over men is wrong. Not only this, but when Paul gives the reason “for Adam was first created, and the Eve,” he is giving an explanation for the clause “I do not allow.” And he expressly says that he &lt;em&gt;neither&lt;/em&gt; allows women to teach &lt;em&gt;nor&lt;/em&gt; to usurp authority over men. There are actually two separate prohibitions, and I see no way that Paul's rationale does not extend to both of them. In addition, George Knight points out that “Some have suggested that Paul is only ruling out teaching or exercise of authority apart from a man's oversight, or just a certain type of authoritative teaching. The insistence here on silence seems to rule out all these solutions” (&lt;em&gt;Commentary on the Pastoral Epistles&lt;/em&gt; 142). Gordon Fee also notes with regard to the admonition for women to keep silent that “Since this is the first thing said about women here in verse 11, and the last thing said in verse 12, it seems clear that the emphasis lies here” (&lt;em&gt;1 and 2 Timothy, Titus&lt;/em&gt; 35). So, contra Stott, it is in fact the prohibition against teaching which seems to be the “substantial point.” Let us not think, however, that this means that women must always be silent, for as George Knight goes on to point out concerning the command of silence, “The clause as a whole describes the status of a woman not in relation to every aspect of the gathered assembly . . . but specifically in respect to that with which it is contrasted, i.e., teaching (and the exercise of authority)” (142).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In summary, there is simply no valid reason for seeing 1 Tim. 2:11-12 as anything other than a universally normative prescription for the church for all ages. Neither is there any valid reason in the text for limiting this only to the command that women should have no authority over men and not to the command that women should not teach over men as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, someone may ask, what about Paul's statement in Galatians 3:28 that “there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male or female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus?” Does this text not rule out such a distinction between male and female as we have seen in 1 Timothy? The answer is no, it does not. Paul is not obliterating role distinctions based upon sex, he is talking about a person's spiritual standing before God which is not determined by whether one is a Jew or a Greek, a slave or a free man, a male or a female. What Paul is doing is destroying class distinctions made by those to whom he is writing insofar as a person's justification before God is concerned. In those days, Jews often had such a low view of Greeks, masters often had such a low view of slaves, and men often had such a low view of women, that Paul needed to assure them that God does not show this kind of partiality in bestowing salvation. So, though there is equality in their spiritual standing before God, there are still distinct roles which men and women must fulfill because of their sex. 1 Timothy 2:11-12 is talking about these kinds of roles and is not in any way implying that men are better than women or that women are in any way to be thought of as inferior beings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I shall conclude as I began, with a statement of the difficult and sometimes complex nature of the issues surrounding the roles of men and women in the church, and particularly regarding the question of female leadership and teaching over men. I do not pretend to have answered by any means all of the questions which need to be answered, but I have tried to point out what I believe the foundational and most crucial issues are that need to be faced by evangelical Christians. These issues involve the way in which we interpret Scripture and apply it in a culture so far removed from that of its authors. I have tried to sort through and highlight some of the problems and possible solutions to these questions. This has led me to a position which is becoming increasingly less popular, but which I believe to be Biblical. I therefore must hold that women should neither be ordained to elder or pastoral offices in the church, nor should they be in situations in which they are teaching over men. And although there are undoubtedly still many difficulties left unresolved, I would take this at least to include both preaching in such public gatherings as Sunday morning worship and teaching in such public gatherings as Sunday school or discipleship groups.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Works Cited&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Carson, D.A. &lt;em&gt;Exegetical Fallacies&lt;/em&gt;. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Book House, 1984.&lt;br /&gt;Erickson, Millard J. &lt;em&gt;Christian Theology&lt;/em&gt;. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Book House, 1993.&lt;br /&gt;---- &lt;em&gt;Evangelical Interpretation: Perspectives on Hermeneutical Issues&lt;/em&gt;. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Book House, 1986.&lt;br /&gt;Fee, Gordon &lt;em&gt;1 and 2 Timothy, Titus&lt;/em&gt;. San Francisco: Harper &amp;amp; Row Publishers, 1984.&lt;br /&gt;Knight, George &lt;em&gt;Commentary on the Pastoral Epistles&lt;/em&gt;. Grand Rapids, MI: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1992.&lt;br /&gt;Kroeger, Richard Clark &amp;amp; Kroeger, Catherine Clark &lt;em&gt;I Suffer Not a Woman&lt;/em&gt;. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Book House, 1992.&lt;br /&gt;Larkin, William J. &lt;em&gt;Culture and Biblical Hermeneutics: Interpreting and Applying the Authoritative Word in a Relativistic Age&lt;/em&gt;. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Book House, 1988.&lt;br /&gt;Stott, John &lt;em&gt;Decisive Issues Facing Christians Today&lt;/em&gt;. Old Tappan, NJ: Fleming H. Revell Company, 1990.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-4866278014015010707?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/3oeb94kX2a0" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/4866278014015010707/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=4866278014015010707" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/4866278014015010707" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/4866278014015010707" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/3oeb94kX2a0/biblical-hermeneutics-and-female.html" title="Biblical Hermeneutics and Female Leadership in the Church" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/06/biblical-hermeneutics-and-female.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-8567719610309252694</id><published>2009-06-04T16:08:00.011-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-22T14:35:10.249-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bible Study" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><title type="text">How the Lord Shepherded Me Through My Wife's Battle With Ovarian Cancer</title><content type="html">As the blog's regular readers know, a little over a year ago my wife, Kim, was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. I am glad to report at this time that she is doing very well and the prognosis is good. I praise the Lord for His mercy to my family. I am so glad that He has allowed me to keep my beloved a while longer. However, early on I wasn't so sure that things would turn out well, and we were concerned that she might not live. Now I want to share with you all the journey that I went through as a husband, father, and pastor, especially during those early fearful days. At the time there were a number of Scriptural passages that the Lord brought to mind, and I shared the way the Lord used these passages in my life with my church family while I was going through this trial last year. I also kept notes as to how the Lord spoke to me throughout that time. Today I would like to share essentially the same testimony with the blog's readers. It is my hope that God may be glorified in it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Initial Discovery of the Cancer&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In early April of 2008 Kim began to experience severe abdominal pain, which led to a visit to the emergency room at a local hospital. We suspected it might be appendicitis, as did the ER doctor, who quickly ordered a CT scan to confirm the diagnosis. However, as it turned out, two different problems were discovered: diverticulitis and a large ovarian cyst. They admitted her to the hospital to treat her for the diverticulitis and ordered an ultrasound to look more closely at the cyst, which revealed a mass growing inside it. After a visit with my wife's OB/GYN and another ultrasound, we were next referred to a gynecological oncologist, who we saw on April 23. He told us that he had very little doubt that Kim had ovarian cancer and that, given the way the mass looked and the amount of fluid in her abdomen in conjunction with the mass, she probably had a stage of cancer that would offer her about a 30% chance of survival at best. This could only be confirmed by proper surgical staging and a removal and examination of the mass. Thankfully, due to a cancellation in the doctor's busy surgical schedule, we were able to get an early date for the the surgery on April 28.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reacting to the Cancer Diagnosis&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So there we were, waiting five days to discover just how bad the cancer was and hoping that the doctor was wrong, despite his years of experience dealing with such things. But I have to admit that I was afraid that I would lose my wife of almost 22 years. In fact, it was a quiet fear that had been in the back of my mind for many years and for a couple of reasons. First, I had always felt that I did not deserve Kim and the happiness I have had with her. I have always been overwhelmed by the fact the God would save me at all, but to pile on so much added grace, to actually bring me such undeserved happiness in this life, just seemed too good to be true. I know it may sound strange, and perhaps it has to do in part with my background and the baggage that comes with it, but I have always had this underlying fear that I would lose her somehow. And in this particular five day period in my life that fear came to the surface with surprisingly great force.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, since the days of our engagement to be married, I have struggled with not allowing my wife to be an idol in my life. In fact, I communicated this very thing to the pastor who provided our premarital counseling. I knew I had a tendency to look to Kim first for comfort when I was struggling, and often I would seek her out when I had a problem before I would even think to take it to the Lord in prayer. And this battle has been there for me throughout our marriage. Perhaps this was further exacerbated by the fact that my conversion came about at about the same time that I met Kim. In fact, the Lord saved me about a month before He brought Kim into my life, and this means that all the really happy years of my life have been with her (in spite of ongoing battles with depression early on, which I will address below). Anyway, I have had to constantly go to the Lord and ask forgiveness because – and I say this to my shame – I was repeatedly tempted to love Kim more than Him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, you can see why I feared that I might lose Kim to cancer. I feared that I had loved her too much and that I never really deserved her in the first place. Perhaps this is why one of the first passages that came to my mind was from Ezekiel, when God told Him that he was going to have to lose his wife in order to serve Him:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;NKJ Ezekiel 24:16 “'Son of man, behold, I take away from you the desire of your eyes with one stroke; yet you shall neither mourn nor weep, nor shall your tears run down. 17 Sigh in silence, make no mourning for the dead; bind your turban on your head, and put your sandals on your feet; do not cover your lips, and do not eat man's bread of sorrow.' 18 So I spoke to the people in the morning, and at evening my wife died; and the next morning I did as I was commanded.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;This passage settled on my heart with such power that it almost overwhelmed me. It was as though God were saying to me, “Keith, are &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; willing to lose your wife for my purposes? If I take her from you, will you still trust me? Will you continue to serve me without questioning my will?” And my constant answer to the continual replaying of these questions in my mind actually encouraged me. I said, “Yes, Lord,” without hesitation or equivocation. I cried out to God, “Holy Father, nothing could ever make me doubt your love for me! Or for my wife and children!” And I was conscious of a peace in my heart as I declared these things, even though it meant the realization of one of my greatest fears. Surprising, isn't it? I have to say, it certainly surprised me! I hadn't realized just how deep a work God had done in my heart until then. And I hadn't realized just how powerfully He had, indeed, kept me from the idolatry I so feared. You see, this incredible peace was not my doing; it was the &lt;em&gt;evidence&lt;/em&gt; of&lt;em&gt; His &lt;/em&gt;work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is why neither my wife nor I see those trying days as being primarily about what we were going through. No, all that has happened is not just another chapter in the "the story of us." Rather, it is another chapter in the story of how our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, has been at work in our lives both for our good and for His glory. And this is something of what I wish to share with you all, although I have struggled to know just where to begin, especially since it is so difficult to try to explain what is in some ways unexplainable. For example, how can one really explain in a fully understandable way &lt;em&gt;a peace that surpasses all understanding&lt;/em&gt;? This is the kind of peace that Paul wrote about in his epistle to the Philippians, where he said:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;NKJ Philippians 4:6-7 “6 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;This is the peace that I have known during this time. And it cannot really be &lt;em&gt;explained&lt;/em&gt;. It has to be &lt;em&gt;experienced&lt;/em&gt;. And even then it really cannot be fully &lt;em&gt;understood&lt;/em&gt;. After all, Paul says that this peace “surpasses all understanding.” I can only testify that the Lord Jesus has indeed granted us such peace, and that it has indeed guarded our hearts and minds. For example, this peace kept me from doubting – even for a second – the love of God for me (or my wife and children). I was and am as certain as ever that “neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 8:38-39). Of course, any believer with even a modicum of maturity in the faith knows exactly what is Paul talking about, and even if we cannot fully explain such peace – especially to those who do not know Christ – we definitely can know it and experience it. It is a peace that kept me not only from questioning God's love, but it also kept me from any anger or bitterness toward Him and from fretting over the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am so glad that the Lord filled me with such faith and peace during those difficult days and hours. But I would like to share a couple more of the passages he used to guide me through that time. For example, He drew my attention to a significant text in Romans that deals with trials and his purposes for them:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;NKJ Romans 5:1-5 “Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; 4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;I was reminded by this passage that through Christ I can “rejoice in hope of the glory of God” (vs. 2), and I think by this Paul means that I can rejoice in the knowledge that God will manifest His glory through me and in my life. In fact, later in this same epistle Paul describes the ultimate triumph of God's work in us as our &lt;em&gt;being glorified&lt;/em&gt;. For example:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;NKJ Romans 8:15-17 “15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, 'Abba, Father.' 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs-- heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, &lt;em&gt;that we may also be glorified together&lt;/em&gt;.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Romans 8:28-30 “28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, &lt;em&gt;these He also glorified&lt;/em&gt;. 18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with &lt;em&gt;the glory which shall be revealed in us&lt;/em&gt;.” [Italics mine.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All things, including tribulations and suffering, are a part of God's plan to glorify us, that is, &lt;em&gt;to reveal His glory in us&lt;/em&gt;. Although this ultimately happens in the resurrection (as the context in Romans 8 makes clear), it is happening to some degree even now, which is what I believe Paul is saying in Romans 5. I think he is trying to tell us that, as we learn to go through trials in faith, we see God being glorified in us more and more, and this gives us a foretaste of the coming glory that will be revealed in us. When Paul tells us that “we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; and perseverance, character; and character, hope” in verse 3-4, he is talking about the “hope of the glory of God” he has mentioned in verse 2. So, the more I see God being glorified in and through me as I faithfully endure trials, the more I increase in the certainty that His promise of future glorification is, indeed, true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is what happened to me as I considered the possibility that my wife might die. I began to see God's work of producing patience and character in me, and it reminded me of the fact that my life – and my wife's life – are in His faithful care. He who began a good work in me – and who continues to work in me – will be faithful to complete it (Phil. 1:6)!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But this leads me to another part of the story of how the Lord shepherded me through this difficult time, and it actually began years ago. The back story – which will not be dissimilar from many of yours – took place in my early days as a believer. You see, I had come from a broken home and had suffered some significant abuse in a couple of the poor neighborhoods I had grown up in. And I also grew up believing in works salvation, which – along with these other factors – led to a constant battle with depression from the time I was a small boy. But I had no idea how bad things would get after coming to faith in Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At first, I began to discover a joy I had never known, knowing that God loved me and that all my sins were forgiven through the work of Christ for me. And my joy abounded even more when God brought Kim into my life and began to take away the incredible loneliness that had plagued me for so long. However, toward the end of our first year of marriage, after having gone to Columbia Bible College, I began to experience the three worst years of depression I had ever encountered, coupled with doubting my salvation. It is hard to describe the intensity of the depression that hounded me in those days, except to say that I thought I would die. In fact, I remember getting up some days and thinking to myself, “Surely today is the day I will die of a broken heart!” I just couldn't imagine how I could keep living like this, but the Lord in His faithfulness led me through this time and to an assurance of salvation. Although He made use of many Scripture passages in the process, one of the key books He kept taking me to was Job. And it was when He enabled me to cry out as Job did that I began to experience victory over the depression that had been my almost constant companion for so long. Here are the two primary texts in Job that shaped my response to God in those days:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;NKJ Job 1:20-22 “20 Then Job arose, tore his robe, and shaved his head; and he fell to the ground and worshiped. 21 And he said: 'Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return there. The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.' 22 In all this Job did not sin nor charge God with wrong.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;I recall reading these words and making them my own prayer to God. I remember praising Him and telling Him that whatever happened I knew he intended it only for my good and that if he would be best glorified by my being miserably depressed for the rest of my life, then so be it. I would accept whatever His gracious will was for me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;NKJ Job 13:15a "Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him."&lt;/blockquote&gt;I can remember very well the day when I cried out to God with these same words! I literally prayed, “Lord, even if you slay me – even if I die of a broken heart – yet will I trust you!” That was the beginning of the end of my battle with depression, and – to make a long story short – it was also the beginning of the end of my struggle with assurance. You see, the Lord showed me through those days that there was a faith in me that I couldn't take any credit for. After all, I was doubting! So where could such faith have come from if not from Jesus, the “author and finisher” of my faith (Heb. 12:2)? It could only have come as “the gift of God” (Eph. 2:8).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, there have of course been many trials since then, and they have all brought to mind these passages in Job as well as others such as Romans 5:1-5. And these same passages came back to me as I went through the trial of my wife having cancer. This trial was at its most acute when I was in the waiting room while Kim was having surgery. Part way through the procedure, the surgical nurse called down to tell me that the mass was indeed cancerous, and the next hour or two were a couple of the longest of my life. I went into a little prayer room where I wept so hard I didn't think I would ever be able to stop. And the words of Job came to me again, except this time with a different emphasis. This time God wasn't asking me to say, “Though you slay me, yet will I trust You.” This time He was asking me to say, “Though you slay &lt;em&gt;my wife&lt;/em&gt;, yet will I trust You!” And I remember as I sat there dazed, weak, and weary, crying out to God, “Yes, Lord, even if you take away my precious Kimmie, yet will I trust You!” Of course, I also pleaded with the Lord for her life, but was able to say by His grace, “Nevertheless, not my will, but Yours be done” (Matt. 26:39).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You see, God had prepared me for this trial through all of the others. He had taken me through the Romans 5:1-5 cycle many times before, and each time I had experienced more and more the “hope of the glory of God” in my life. And He had taught me to rejoice in it! And this helped me to have hope in this struggle as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps an illustration would help. It comes from a time when I was just a kid, about twelve years old. I went with my family to a state park in southern Indiana that had a cave that went through a hillside and came out the other side. I think it was actually an abandoned attempt at building a railroad tunnel at one time. At any rate, the tunnel was just long enough that when you were in the middle of it you were in complete darkness and could see no light coming from either end. After having gone through the tunnel a couple of times with a flashlight, I decided – I vaguely remember a dare – to try to go through the tunnel with no light at all. Well, about half way through, as I was in the darkest part of the tunnel, feeling my way along, I remember being gripped by fear and worrying that maybe I would get lost somehow and no one would ever find me. And I thought about turning back. But what kept me going is that fact that I had been through the tunnel before, and I knew that if I just pressed on there would be a light ahead. And this is the same way with trials in my life. I have been through the tunnel before – many times – and I know that there is always a light at the end! It is the “hope of the glory of God,” and it keeps me going, just as Paul said it would. Indeed, there is always a light at the end of the tunnel of every trial for the Christian, and it is the joy set before us as we see the glory of God more fully manifested in our own lives. May we ever seek this joy in Him! And may we accept the fact that it comes with suffering.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Revised Diagnosis and Thankfulness for God's Continued Grace&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now it is time for some more good news. Not only did the Lord lovingly guide me through yet another trial. He graciously answered my prayer that Kim would live. As I have already indicated, the surgery of April 28, 2008, confirmed that she did, indeed, have ovarian cancer. As a result, she had to undergo a complete hysterectomy, along with the removal of her omentum, appendix, and a number of lymph nodes. But the surgeon discovered that the cancer wasn't nearly as bad as he had thought it would be. You see, the fluid that had been in Kim's abdomen, which the doctor had assumed was due to the cancer and that it had thus spread and was at a later stage, had actually been due to the diverticulitis that had already been treated by that time. So, when he performed the surgery the excess fluid was not there. As it turns out, the cancer had been caught very early &lt;em&gt;because of the diverticulitis&lt;/em&gt;. Otherwise we would almost certainly not have found out about the ovarian cancer until it was too late, as happens to so many poor women and accounts in part for the high death rate associated with this type of cancer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, Kim has now been through six cycles of chemotherapy, and the prognosis is quite good. We have good reason to believe that she will make a full recovery, although, of course, we can never be absolutely sure. But, then, who can? I just know this much; I know that God is first in my life. I know that he has done a far greater work of faith in me than I had realized. I know that Kim and I, and our three children, are closer to the Lord than ever. I know that our church family needed to see us go through this and to see His work in us. And I know that whatever else happens He will keep us to the end as He has promised. But it is through trials such as those I have described that such assurance is deepened in us and such rejoicing in the “hope of the glory of God” can be had. Do you want to better know Him and make Him known? Do you want to be able to see the evidence of &lt;em&gt;His working&lt;/em&gt; of faith in you? If so, be ready to welcome the testing of your faith with the knowledge that it is always for your good and for His glory.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-8567719610309252694?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/3jlLgd7G3Mw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/8567719610309252694/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=8567719610309252694" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/8567719610309252694" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/8567719610309252694" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/3jlLgd7G3Mw/how-lord-shepherded-me-through-my-wifes.html" title="How the Lord Shepherded Me Through My Wife's Battle With Ovarian Cancer" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-lord-shepherded-me-through-my-wifes.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-8537109929867583792</id><published>2009-05-20T17:19:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2009-07-10T09:46:22.937-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bible Study" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pastoral Ministry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><title type="text">John Piper on MacArthur, Driscoll, and the Song of Solomon</title><content type="html">&lt;embed src="http://www.edublogs.tv/flvplayer.swf" quality="high" width="450" height="367" name="VideoPlayer" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" FlashVars="file=http://www.edublogs.tv/uploads/wLajsROIjtAcdFp0PiIv.flv&amp;width=450&amp;height=367&amp;displaywidth=450&amp;displayheight=367&amp;overstretch=true&amp;autostart=true&amp;showfsbutton=false&amp;logo=http://www.edublogs.tv/image_s/playerlogo.png&amp;link=http://www.edublogs.tv&amp;linktarget=_blank" wmode="transparent" border="0"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yesterday Jonathan Christman posted the above audio at his &lt;a href="http://epangelia.blogspot.com/2009/05/john-piper-on-mark-driscolls-speech-and.html"&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;, where he has been &lt;a href="http://epangelia.blogspot.com/2009/03/phil-johnson-vs-mark-dricsoll-brief.html"&gt;tracking&lt;/a&gt; the debate that has arisen regardng appropriate speech for pastors. He reports that the audio is from the 2009 Basics Conference that took place on May 11-13 at Parkside Church in Cleveland, Ohio. In it, John declares his agreement with MacArthur with regard to the proper interpretation of the Song of Solomn and what makes for appropriate speech for pastors, but he disagrees with MacAthur's apparent view that such problems should automatically disqualify Driscoll from pastoral ministry.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-8537109929867583792?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/790BxBUNjI0" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/8537109929867583792/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=8537109929867583792" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/8537109929867583792" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/8537109929867583792" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/790BxBUNjI0/john-piper-on-macarthur-driscoll-and.html" title="John Piper on MacArthur, Driscoll, and the Song of Solomon" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/05/john-piper-on-macarthur-driscoll-and.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-7393938650433205123</id><published>2009-05-07T21:20:00.009-05:00</published><updated>2009-05-10T06:01:53.755-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bible Study" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><title type="text">For Mother's Day: How Motherhood Reflects the Character and Love of God</title><content type="html">&lt;blockquote&gt;Anna M. Jarvis (1864-1948) first suggested the national observance of an annual day honoring all mothers because she had loved her own mother so dearly. At a memorial service for her mother on May 10, 1908, Miss Jarvis gave a carnation (her mother's favorite flower) to each person who attended. Within the next few years, the idea of a day to honor mothers gained popularity, and Mother's Day was observed in a number of large cities in the U.S.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On May 9, 1914, by an act of Congress, President Woodrow Wilson proclaimed the second Sunday in May as Mother's Day. He established the day as a time for “public expression of our love and reverence for the mothers of our country.” (Pulpit Helps, May, 1991, as cited at &lt;a href="http://www.bible.org/illus.php?topic_id=1770"&gt;Bible.org Sermon Illustrations&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;I think it is proper that we should show appreciation for own mothers as well as for the role of motherhood itself. And it is especially fitting that we honor godly mothers, for, as Abraham Lincoln was known to have said, “No man is poor who has had a godly mother."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I can think of no better way to honor the mothers in our midst than to show how motherhood at its best reveals the character and love of God. This is why a loving mother is sometimes used in the Bible as a metaphor to describe God's love for us. And today I would like to take a look at a few passages where this may be seen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But before we look at the first passage, I want to qualify what I am trying to say. I am &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; saying that we should refer to God by the title &lt;em&gt;Mother&lt;/em&gt;. We should always and only refer to Him as Father and in masculine terms, which is the consistent testimony of Scripture. However, as I have said already, Scripture does use the analogy of a mother's love to picture the love of God in several places, so it is appropriate that we learn from this. So, with this caveat in place, let's consider first Isaiah 66:10-13. In this passage God likens Jerusalem to a mother, and I suspect this is where Paul may have gotten the idea when he referred in Galatians 4:26 to the heavenly Jerusalem as “the mother of us all.” However, notice as you read the passage that it isn't until verse 13 that we see that it is &lt;em&gt;really God&lt;/em&gt; who will comfort His people as a mother comforts her children.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Isaiah 66:10-13 “'Rejoice with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all you who love her; rejoice for joy with her, all you who mourn for her; 11 that you may feed and be satisfied with the consolation of her bosom, that you may drink deeply and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.' 12 For thus says the LORD: 'Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream. Then you shall feed; on her sides shall you be carried, and be dandled on her knees. 13 As one whom his mother comforts, so I will comfort you; and you shall be comforted in Jerusalem.'”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, it is clear that it is really God that is metaphorically being described here as a mother who nurtures and comforts her child. But how is it that He will so comfort us? There are at least three ways in which we are told that His treatment of us is like that of a caring and nurturing mother:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1) Like a mother God provides for us – This is seen in the repeated description of the way the that mother nurtures her child (vss. 11-12a, “feed and be satisfied” – “drink” – “feed”).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) Like a mother God protects us – This is seen in the way that the mother is described as carrying her child on her side (vs.12b, “on her sides you shall be carried” ). Just as child is kept safe by his mother carrying him, so we are gently carried along by the Lord.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) Like a mother God delights in us – This can be seen in the reference to the way the mother gently and joyfully bounces her child on her knees (vs.12c, “dandled on her knees”). The Hebrew word translated &lt;em&gt;dandled&lt;/em&gt; [&lt;em&gt;shaa&lt;/em&gt;] actually means “delight in,” but the English word &lt;em&gt;dandle&lt;/em&gt; is probably a good translation and means “to move (as a baby) up and down in one's arms or on one's knee in affectionate play” (&lt;a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dandle"&gt;Merriam Webster Online Dictionary&lt;/a&gt;). The picture us one of joyfulness, gentleness, and caring.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;What a marvelous analogy the Lord uses to help us to see His affection for us as His children! But there is more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Psalm 131:1-3 "LORD, my heart is not haughty, nor my eyes lofty. Neither do I concern myself with great matters, nor with things too profound for me. 2 Surely I have calmed and quieted my soul, like a weaned child with his mother; like a weaned child is my soul within me. 3 O Israel, hope in the LORD from this time forth and forever."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Observe in verse 2 how David describes his relationship with God as being “like a weaned child with his mother.” He communicates a childlike trust in the Lord that doesn't need to have all the answers to every difficult question because it relies completely on the care and love of God. We can trust in God without question, just as a small child trusts his mother. This kind of faith trusts fully in God's promise that He will never leave us or forsake us (Heb. 13:5). And this leads to the next passage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Isaiah 49:14-15 14 "But Zion said, 'The LORD has forsaken me, and my Lord has forgotten me.' 15 Can a woman forget her nursing child, and not have compassion on the son of her womb? Surely they may forget, yet I will not forget you.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just as a mother remembers her nursing child, so God will always remember us. And He doesn't just remember us, but He remembers us with compassion in His heart toward us, just as a mother is moved by compassion to feed her crying child.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most of us would probably find it very hard to imagine how a mother could ever forget or fail to be compassionate toward her child. But we should find it even more difficult to believe that God could ever forget us!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what if – as the LORD says in verse 15 – a mother should forget her child? What if that has happened to some of us? What if some of us have not had such a good mother and therefore struggle to grasp the kind of love being described here? For example, some of us may have been abused or abandoned by our mothers. Well, this leads to another passage I would like to bring to your attention.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Psalm 27:7-10 7 "Hear, O LORD, when I cry with my voice! Have mercy also upon me, and answer me. 8 When You said, 'Seek My face,' my heart said to You, 'Your face, LORD, I will seek.' 9 Do not hide Your face from me; do not turn Your servant away in anger; you have been my help; do not leave me nor forsake me, O God of my salvation. 10 When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take care of me [ESV, “take me in”].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here David contemplates the possibility that even his own father and mother may abandon him, but he knows that God will never forget His children! God will take us in and take care of us even if our parents abandon us. He will be to us all that a mother or father should be – and so much more!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, He will even give us other people in the Church to replace our lost parents, as Jesus promised His disciples:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Mark 10:28-30 “28 Then Peter began to say to Him, 'See, we have left all and followed You.' 29 So Jesus answered and said, 'Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel's, 30 who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time -- houses and brothers and sisters &lt;em&gt;and mothers&lt;/em&gt; and children and lands, with persecutions -- and in the age to come, eternal life.'” (Italics mine.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This year I definitely want all of you to honor your mother. As the Fifth Commandment says, “Honor your father and your mother” (Exodus 20:12a).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But even more important than that, I encourage you to take time to praise God and thank Him for the way in which godly motherhood pictures His tender love and care for us. And, of course, this is what any godly mother would want you to do as well!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-7393938650433205123?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/SvZ8qQkdHVE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/7393938650433205123/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=7393938650433205123" title="4 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/7393938650433205123" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/7393938650433205123" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/SvZ8qQkdHVE/for-mothers-day-how-motherhood-reflects.html" title="For Mother's Day: How Motherhood Reflects the Character and Love of God" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">4</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/05/for-mothers-day-how-motherhood-reflects.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-2515573560714288166</id><published>2009-05-05T14:54:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2009-05-06T14:41:11.994-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bible Study" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><title type="text">The Importance of the Ascension of Christ</title><content type="html">Recently I was reading John Calvin's discussion of the ascension of Jesus in his &lt;em&gt;Institutes of the Christian Religion&lt;/em&gt;. I was struck by his treatment of the "benefits imparted to our faith by Christ's ascension," in which he makes the following observations:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;From this doctrine faith derives manifold advantages. First, it perceives that the Lord, by his ascension to heaven, has opened up the access to the heavenly kingdom, which Adam had shut. For having entered it in our flesh, as it were in our name, it follows, as the Apostle says, that we are in a manner now seated in heavenly places, not entertaining a mere hope of heaven, but possessing it in our head.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, faith perceives that his seat beside the Father is not without great advantage to us. Having entered the temple not made with hands, he constantly appears as our advocate and intercessor in the presence of the Father; directs attention to his own righteousness, so as to turn it away from our sins; so reconciles him to us, as by his intercession to pave for us a way of access to his throne, presenting it to miserable sinners, to whom it would otherwise be an object of dread, as replete with grace and mercy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thirdly, it discerns his power, on which depend our strength, might, resources, and triumph over hell, “When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive,” (Eph. 4:8). Spoiling his foes, he gave gifts to his people, and daily loads them with spiritual riches. He thus occupies his exalted seat, that thence transferring his virtue unto us, he may quicken us to spiritual life, sanctify us by his Spirit, and adorn his Church with various graces, by his protection preserve it safe from all harm, and by the strength of his hand curb the enemies raging against his cross and our salvation; in fine, that he may possess all power in heaven and earth, until he have utterly routed all his foes, who are also ours and completed the structure of his Church. Such is the true nature of the kingdom, such the power which the Father has conferred upon him, until he arrive to complete the last act by judging the quick and the dead. (&lt;a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/institutes/Page_450.html"&gt;2.2.16&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was glad to see Calvin's emphasis upon the ascension, and I was reminded of a teaching I gave several years ago as I began to realize how little Christians think about or emphasize the ascension today. I thought it might be good, then, to share this teaching here. What follows is my own teaching outline:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Teaching Outline on the Ascension of Christ&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Introduction&lt;/em&gt;: Ask for contribution from the congregation to answer the question: “What are the most significant events of Jesus' life or aspects of His work for us?” Answers will do doubt include such things as His virgin birth, sinless life, miracles, crucifixion, and resurrection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sadly, I have yet to hear anyone mention the ascension when I ask this question. But &lt;em&gt;what about&lt;/em&gt; His ascension? What can we learn from it, and why do we need to know about it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many Christians have not given Jesus' ascension much thought, except, perhaps, as a part of a discussion of His return – which we will see is indeed important. But there are a number of things the Bible has to say about why Jesus ascended into Heaven. In fact, we will examine &lt;em&gt;nine reasons for His ascension.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Jesus ascended to demonstrate the manner in which He would return.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Acts 1:9-11 “Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, 11 who also said, 'Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.'”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Application&lt;/em&gt;: This passage is the primary reason why Christians have consistently affirmed the visible, bodily return of Christ in the future. We do not have to worry that He might have come back already and we somehow missed it! He was &lt;em&gt;seen&lt;/em&gt; going into heaven, and He will be &lt;em&gt;seen&lt;/em&gt; coming back to earth!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Jesus ascended to complete His exaltation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Acts 2:33-36 “Therefore &lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;being exalted to the right hand of God&lt;/span&gt;, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear. 34 For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself: 'The LORD said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, 35 Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”' 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Acts 5:31 “&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;Him God has exalted to His right hand&lt;/span&gt; to be Prince and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Philippians 2:9-11 “Therefore &lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;God also has highly exalted Him&lt;/span&gt; and given Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ 1 Timothy 3:16 “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, &lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;received up in glory&lt;/span&gt;.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Application&lt;/em&gt;: We should never cease to praise Jesus as our risen &lt;em&gt;and ascended&lt;/em&gt; Lord. We should seek to praise and honor Him as Lord in all that we do. And we should remember to include this as part of the Gospel message in our witness to others just as the Apostles did. When you tell others about Jesus, do you ever emphasize His exaltation at the Father's right hand? Do you stress His exalted status as Lord over all creation?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Jesus ascended to begin His reign in Heaven.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Ephesians 1:20-23 “... which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come. 22 And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, 23 which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ 1 Corinthians 15:25 “For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ 1 Peter 3:22 “...who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Application&lt;/em&gt;: Many of us rightly think of Jesus as one day returning to establish His Kingdom, but we should also remember that He is &lt;em&gt;already&lt;/em&gt; reigning over all things. He is already the King to whom every knee ought to bow, and our allegiance to Him takes precedence over all other allegiances.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Jesus ascended to demonstrate the completion of His sacrificial work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Hebrews 1:1-3 “God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, &lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high&lt;/span&gt;....”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Hebrews 10:11-12 “And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God....”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Hebrews 12:2 “....looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Application&lt;/em&gt;: Jesus' work was finished, and there was nothing left to be done in order to accomplish forgiveness for our sins, so – unlike the Levitical priests – He sat down. If He needed to do nothing more for us in His atoning work, then we can certainly do nothing to add to what He has done! We can fully place our trust in what He has done for us, confident that there is nothing left to do!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. Jesus ascended in order to prepare a place for us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Illustration&lt;/em&gt;: When we have guests coming, we get ready for them in advance, especially when we are glad to have them coming to stay with us. And we aren't going to spend all that time getting ready for the visit only to forget to pick our guest up at the airport!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Application&lt;/em&gt;: Jesus is already making preparation for the eternity we will spend with Him in Heaven! What a tremendous encouragement for us all. And if He is working to prepare this place for us, then we know He is doing it for a reason, to come for us and take us home with Him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. Jesus ascended in order to send the Holy Spirit to us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ John 14:16-18 “And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever -- 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Application&lt;/em&gt;: The Holy Spirit enables us to experience the presence of Jesus in our lives at all times.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ John 16:7 “Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus doesn't say why He must go for the Spirit to come. It was apparently a part of a plan that must be followed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Application&lt;/em&gt;: The Holy Spirit has come to us in a way that He would not have come if Jesus had not ascended back to Heaven. And His empowering presence is a blessing that we wouldn't have known aside from Jesus' death, resurrection, &lt;em&gt;and ascension&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. Jesus ascended in order to continue His intercession for us at the Father's right hand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Romans 8:34 “Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Hebrews 7:25 “Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Application&lt;/em&gt;: It is such an encouragement to know that Jesus went to bend the Father's ear, so to speak, on our behalf! He is right there, in the most exalted place, nearest to the Father, interceding for us constantly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8. Jesus ascended in order to demonstrate His victory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Ephesians 4:8 “Therefore He says: 'When He ascended on high, &lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;He led captivity captive&lt;/span&gt;, and gave gifts to men'.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Quote&lt;/em&gt;: John Gill has aptly commented on this passage (Exposition of the Entire Bible, e-Sword):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[This] is expressive of Christ's conquests and triumph over sin, Satan, the world, death, and the grave; and indeed, every spiritual enemy of his and his people, especially the devil, who leads men captive at his will, and is therefore called captivity, and his principalities and powers, whom Christ has spoiled and triumphed over; the allusion is to the public triumphs of the Romans, in which captives were led in chains, and exposed to open view.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The victory that He demonstrated through His ascension was the victory He wrought upon the cross:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Colossians 2:13-15 “And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Application&lt;/em&gt;: What an encouragement that Jesus did not ascend without first winning the decisive battle over all our enemies! His ascension proves that the victory is ours through His work and power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9. Jesus ascended in order to give gifts to the Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Ephesians 4:8-13 “Therefore He says: 'When He ascended on high, He led captivity captive, and &lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;gave gifts to men&lt;/span&gt;.' 9 (Now this, 'He ascended' -- what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.) 11 And &lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;He Himself gave&lt;/span&gt; some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ....”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Application&lt;/em&gt;: Not only did Jesus leave us the Holy Spirit (as we saw earlier), but He also made sure that He gave us the leaders and the teachers we will need – and that the Holy Spirit will use – to help us achieve maturity as Christians and to serve him in the Church and in the world. Do you often think of your pastor-teachers, for example, as &lt;em&gt;gifts&lt;/em&gt; from Jesus to you? Do you thank Him for these gifts?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Conclusion&lt;/em&gt;: Will you all think about the ascension of Jesus the next time you are pondering the most important events in His life or the most important aspects of His saving work on our behalf? Will you remember to worship Him as your risen &lt;em&gt;and ascended&lt;/em&gt; Lord, as you ought to do? Will you remember to speak of His exalted status as the ascended Lord when you tell others about Him?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope the blog's readers find this brief teaching outline helpful, not only in reminding themselves of the importance of Jesus' ascension, but also as and aid to help remind others as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Soli Deo gloria!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-2515573560714288166?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/gZny0yuWUrk" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/2515573560714288166/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=2515573560714288166" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/2515573560714288166" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/2515573560714288166" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/gZny0yuWUrk/importance-of-ascension-of-christ.html" title="The Importance of the Ascension of Christ" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/05/importance-of-ascension-of-christ.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-6660856011616172102</id><published>2009-04-23T19:31:00.015-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-05T09:42:26.980-05:00</updated><title type="text">The Importance of Books for the Pastor</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SfEJBuxXJ9I/AAAAAAAAAYU/JVyEu-ZH4iI/s1600-h/Spurgeon.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 175px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 216px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5328049759495595986" border="0" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SfEJBuxXJ9I/AAAAAAAAAYU/JVyEu-ZH4iI/s320/Spurgeon.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Ligon Duncan spoke at the &lt;a href="http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/"&gt;Gospel Coalition&lt;/a&gt; conference this morning on 2 Timothy 4:6-22. As he was expositing the text, he mentioned what he called a classic sermon by Charles Spurgeon on verse 13, in which Paul admonishes Timothy to "bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas when you come-- and the books, especially the parchments." Ligon then went on the quote the sermon at some length, and I was so taken by this quote (as also was Ligon, obviously) that I wanted to share it with you all. Although Spurgeon's remarks are aimed primarily at pastors, I am sure most of us will agree with Spurgeon that &lt;em&gt;all &lt;/em&gt;of God's people also have this same need. So, without further ado, from the sermon entitled &lt;a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0542.htm"&gt;Paul—His Cloak and His Books&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We do not know what the books were about, and we can only form some guess as to what the parchments were. Paul had a few books which were left, perhaps wrapped up in the cloak, and Timothy was to be careful to bring them. &lt;em&gt;Even an apostle must read&lt;/em&gt;. Some of our very ultra Calvinistic brethren think that a minister who reads books and studies his sermon must be a very deplorable specimen of a preacher. A man who comes up into the pulpit, professes to take his text on the spot, and talks any quantity of nonsense, is the idol of many. If he will speak without premeditation, or pretend to do so, and never produce what they call a dish of dead men's brains—oh! that is the preacher. How rebuked are they by the apostle! He is inspired, and yet he wants books! He has been preaching at least for thirty years, and yet he wants books! He had seen the Lord, and yet he wants books! He had had a wider experience than most men, and yet he wants books! He had been caught up into the third heaven, and had heard things which it was unlawful for a men to utter, yet he wants books! He had written the major part of the New Testament, and yet he wants books! The apostle says to Timothy and so he says to every preacher, "Give thyself unto reading." The man who never reads will never be read; he who never quotes will never be quoted. He who will not use the thoughts of other men's brains, proves that he has no brains of his own. Brethren, what is true of ministers is true of all our people. &lt;em&gt;You&lt;/em&gt; need to read. Renounce as much as you will all light literature, but study as much as possible sound theological works, especially the Puritanic writers, and expositions of the Bible. We are quite persuaded that the very best way for you to be spending your leisure, is to be either reading or praying. You may get much instruction from books which afterwards you may use as a true weapon in your Lord and Master's service. Paul cries, "Bring the books"—join in the cry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sadly, reading has fallen on hard times these days, as Ligon noted in his own sermon. This is why we need Spurgeon's warning even more in our own day. You see, we tend to acclimate ourselves to being spoon fed information in entertaining ways, training ourselves to be impatient with the length and attention required by reading books. But since we are a people of the Bible - the book inspired by God - then we all need go against the cultural current and train ourselves to be readers again. This may mean that we need to turn off the television more. It may mean we need to listen to the radio less. It may mean that we need to spend less time on the internet, where we learn to read only minutes at time. But aren't these small sacrifices to make in order to help ourselves become better able to read longer and more attentively and so become more competent readers of God's Word?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-6660856011616172102?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/Xsx75vi55sA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/6660856011616172102/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=6660856011616172102" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/6660856011616172102" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/6660856011616172102" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/Xsx75vi55sA/importance-of-books-for-pastor.html" title="The Importance of Books for the Pastor" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SfEJBuxXJ9I/AAAAAAAAAYU/JVyEu-ZH4iI/s72-c/Spurgeon.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/04/importance-of-books-for-pastor.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-7858644124053935217</id><published>2009-04-17T16:11:00.007-05:00</published><updated>2009-04-18T18:33:07.567-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Sermons and Preaching" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bible Study" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pastoral Ministry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><title type="text">John MacArthur on the "Rape of Solomon's Song"</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/Sej0D3Ot3mI/AAAAAAAAAYM/RIne6InI-6s/s1600-h/MacArthur.bmp"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 275px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 275px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5325774906568072802" border="0" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/Sej0D3Ot3mI/AAAAAAAAAYM/RIne6InI-6s/s320/MacArthur.bmp" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; I have long been impressed by John MacArthur's courage and care in taking a stand on important issues confronting the Church. And I continue to be impressed and encouraged by his recent willingness to address the concerns many of us have with respect to the obscene language that is being used all too often in pulpits these days. In this case, John was prompted to address a particular example of this problem, which is a sermon that Mark Driscoll preached on the Song of Solomon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The audio of the sermon may be found &lt;a href="http://www.destinyedinburgh.com/m3uPage.aspx?mp3=Sex,_a_study_of_the_good_bits_from_Song_of_Solomon_by_Mark_Driscoll.mp3"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, but a transcript of selected problem portions of the sermon may be found &lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dg4fc37g_6fjdd38c8&amp;amp;hl=en"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. (&lt;em&gt;Warning&lt;/em&gt;: There is sexually explicit language in both the audio and the transcript linked here.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John has addressed his concerns this week in a four part series of blog articles entitled "The Rape of Solomon's Song," which were posted at the &lt;a href="http://www.shepherdsfellowship.org/"&gt;Shepherds' Fellowship&lt;/a&gt; website. Here are the links to each of the four parts:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.shepherdsfellowship.org/pulpit/Posts.aspx?ID=4168"&gt;Part One&lt;/a&gt; (Posted Tuesday, Apr 14, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.shepherdsfellowship.org/pulpit/Posts.aspx?ID=4169"&gt;Part Two&lt;/a&gt; (Posted Wednesday, Apr 15, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.shepherdsfellowship.org/pulpit/Posts.aspx?ID=4172"&gt;Part Three&lt;/a&gt; (Posted Thursday, Apr 16, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.shepherdsfellowship.org/pulpit/Posts.aspx?ID=4174"&gt;Part Four&lt;/a&gt; (Posted Friday, Apr 17, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is an issue and a series that I think it important for this blog's readers to be aware of. For more information addressing the Biblical response to such matters, see also my earlier &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/03/phil-johnson-on-importance-of-sound.html"&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; providing the videos of Phil Johnson's message entitled "Sound Doctrine; Sound Words."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-7858644124053935217?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/hurJOOB3t-4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/7858644124053935217/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=7858644124053935217" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/7858644124053935217" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/7858644124053935217" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/hurJOOB3t-4/john-macarthur-on-rape-of-solomons-song.html" title="John MacArthur on the &quot;Rape of Solomon's Song&quot;" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/Sej0D3Ot3mI/AAAAAAAAAYM/RIne6InI-6s/s72-c/MacArthur.bmp" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/04/john-macarthur-on-rape-of-solomons-song.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-6717239865770759500</id><published>2009-04-12T17:01:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2009-04-12T17:24:16.350-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Items of Interest" /><title type="text">Lessons Learned From Ethan, Nathan, and Joshua</title><content type="html">Ethan Loomis, a dear friend of the family, who is one of my son Joshua's best friends, was diagnosed with Leukemia in April of 2008. The first video was made by Ethan as a testimony to God's faithfulness during his struggle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="580" height="360"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cUADgAynLjs&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cUADgAynLjs&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="580" height="360"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Qq6RtFXJQE0&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Qq6RtFXJQE0&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second video was filmed and edited by Ethan and features my son Joshua and another close friend of theirs, Nathan Schmidt, who wrote the short script to help teach an important lesson about how to treat -- or not to treat -- people who are hurting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And, by the way, my son Joshua was the first guy sitting alone on the couch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am proud of these young men and am excited about the way God has worked in their lives for His glory, and I just wanted to share a little bit about their story from their perspective.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-6717239865770759500?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/Inf4th0Qaw8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/6717239865770759500/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=6717239865770759500" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/6717239865770759500" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/6717239865770759500" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/Inf4th0Qaw8/lessons-learned-from-ethan-nathan-and.html" title="Lessons Learned From Ethan, Nathan, and Joshua" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/04/lessons-learned-from-ethan-nathan-and.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-2526098389071242418</id><published>2009-04-10T11:25:00.012-05:00</published><updated>2009-04-22T07:01:53.775-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Adversus Haereses" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pastoral Ministry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><title type="text">Steve Camp and Tim Challies on the Good and Bad of "Watchblogging"</title><content type="html">This week I read a couple of interesting articles on the issue of Christian "watchblogging," the internet phenomenon involving the use of blogging to warn the churches about the sinful practices and theological errors they may encounter online or in their communities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, on April 6 Tim Challies offered a helpful article entitled &lt;a title="Evil as Entertainment" href="http://www.challies.com/archives/articles/evil-as-entertainment.php"&gt;Evil as Entertainment&lt;/a&gt;, in which he warned against the tendency to virtually revel in "all that is wrong in the church." I think he has hit on something here. It is the same kind of evil that leads so many Christians into gossip, and it should be avoided. Here is Tim's final admonition:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Filling our minds, our hearts, our computer screens, our blogs with all that is wrong in the church will do little to conform us into the image of the Savior. It &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; do little. My encouragement to you, whether you are a regular visitor to one of these sites or whether you simply visit them occasionally, is to examine your heart and to examine your motives. Do you visit such sites because they have information that you truly need to know? Or do you visit as a means of entertainment? Are you delighting in what is good and true and pure and lovely, or are you finding a strange, sick delight in all that is evil and ugly?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Shouldn't we all agree that we ought check our hearts whenever we seek to be informed about the errors that are revealed in watchblogs? Shouldn't we all agree that we can do the right thing with the wrong motive at times? Can't we perform the tasks of writing and reading watchblogs with the wrong attitudes in our hearts, failing to seek first of all the glory of God and the good of His Church? I think Tim's warnings are good for us all!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, I also think there is much that is good and necessary about watchblogging. In fact, I have engaged in a bit of this myself, as regular readers of this blog know. I see it as a part of my duty as a pastor given by Jesus to the Church (Eph. 4:11f). I see it as a part of what Paul admonished elders to do for the churches. For example:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;NKJ Acts 20:28-31 "28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. 31 Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ESV Titus 1:7-9 "7 For an overseer, as God's steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, 8 but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined. 9 He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is where I believe that Steve Camp's April 8 response to Tim, entitled &lt;a href="http://stevenjcamp.blogspot.com/2009/04/blogging-watchblogging-meta-and.html"&gt;Blogging, Watchblogging, and Ministry&lt;/a&gt;, provides needed balance to what Tim has written. For example, Steve reminds us about the point I have raised above:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000099;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Apostle Paul on Watchblogging&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The Apostle Paul states the balance we all so desperately need in this area of Christian blogging. He issues a charge to pastors (but a principle we may all learn from and employ in our blogging) found in Titus 1:9b, "&lt;em&gt;instruct in sound doctrine and refute those who contradict&lt;/em&gt;." One positive aspect, one negative aspect. One that instructs; the other that confronts. Both are quite necessary. Faithful instruction in sound doctrine will have to by its very nature confront and address that which is unsound according to Scripture if one is clearly teaching "the whole counsel of God." And by mentioning that which is unsound biblically, means that you must also instruct in that which is sound doctrine for addressing error without the clarification and context of Scriptural truth can push our righteous indignation buttons and be very motivational, but in the end unprofitable. And one that seeks only to state that which is positive biblically and fails to refute error, is more like Norman Vincent Peal than like the Apostle Paul, Peter, or our Lord Jesus Christ (cp, Matt. 23; 2 Peter 2; Jude; 2 Cor. 10). &lt;/blockquote&gt;That last sentence reminds me of the old saying - I think from Vance Havner - "Paul I find appealing, but Peale I find appalling." At any rate, Steve goes on to give some very good advice about questions we can ask ourselves before we blog and lessons we can learn about watchblogging, and it is a &lt;em&gt;must read&lt;/em&gt; for those of us who want to honor Christ in our blogging.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I highly recommend checking out both of these men's articles, but especially Steve's practical wisdom regarding the necessity for watchblogging and the appropriate way to go about it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-2526098389071242418?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/ph7VCcrH1cg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/2526098389071242418/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=2526098389071242418" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/2526098389071242418" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/2526098389071242418" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/ph7VCcrH1cg/steve-camp-and-tim-challies-on-good-and.html" title="Steve Camp and Tim Challies on the Good and Bad of &quot;Watchblogging&quot;" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/04/steve-camp-and-tim-challies-on-good-and.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-5158164615548499259</id><published>2009-04-03T11:56:00.008-05:00</published><updated>2009-04-03T12:12:55.958-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Software and Internet" /><title type="text">Another Free Reformed Resource from Doxa Digital Press</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SdY_9g4IACI/AAAAAAAAAX8/oBLxA_gGUvc/s1600-h/doxa_logo_109x50.png"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 129px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 50px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5320510335814729762" border="0" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SdY_9g4IACI/AAAAAAAAAX8/oBLxA_gGUvc/s320/doxa_logo_109x50.png" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The folks at &lt;a href="http://www.doxapress.com/free.htm"&gt;Doxa Digital Press&lt;/a&gt; have recently made available yet anotherfree download called &lt;em&gt;Westminster Writings&lt;/em&gt;. It contains a number of helpful chapters on various theological and ethical issues. Here is a description of the contents from the publisher:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Features 13 chapters by various contemporary Reformed scholars&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;Product Features:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Authored by various contemporary Reformed scholars&lt;br /&gt;Includes 13 chapters:&lt;br /&gt;Bioethics: New Questions to New Technologies&lt;br /&gt;Certainty in Christ&lt;br /&gt;Common Grace and Theological Scholarship&lt;br /&gt;Cracking Da Vinci's Code&lt;br /&gt;Do You Believe This?&lt;br /&gt;God Loves Me and Has What Kind of Plan for My Life?&lt;br /&gt;Is Porn Norm?&lt;br /&gt;Pointing to Christ: Ezra 7:1-10&lt;br /&gt;The All-Sufficiency of Christ&lt;br /&gt;The Certainty of Death: Grieving and the Christian&lt;br /&gt;What Makes Something a Sacrament?&lt;br /&gt;When the Good News Becomes Bad&lt;br /&gt;Evangelism in the 21st Century&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;New and Available as a Free Download!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;The current list of free reformed resources from &lt;a href="http://www.doxapress.com/free.htm"&gt;Doxa Digital Press&lt;/a&gt; also includes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SIVsEIqa_hI/AAAAAAAAANg/KJSAJQzJWz8/s1600-h/doxa_logo_109x50.png"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1) The Founders Journal 2000-2005 "with articles from Southern Baptists committed to the doctrines of grace."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) Polity "features articles by Mark Dever and Al Mohler, as well as historical reprints by Benjamin Keach and others."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) Sproul Doctrinal Studies "features biblical and theological studies from the teaching ministry of R.C. Sproul."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These resources were created for the free &lt;a href="http://www.bible-explorer.com/"&gt;Bible Explorer&lt;/a&gt; program (from the makers of &lt;a href="http://www.wordsearchbible.com/"&gt;WordSearch&lt;/a&gt;). Bible Explorer also comes with many of its own free resources, including a variety of Reformed works, and is worth adding to your Bible study software library.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-5158164615548499259?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/HpDoxoOmsjY" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/5158164615548499259/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=5158164615548499259" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/5158164615548499259" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/5158164615548499259" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/HpDoxoOmsjY/another-free-reformed-resource-from.html" title="Another Free Reformed Resource from Doxa Digital Press" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SdY_9g4IACI/AAAAAAAAAX8/oBLxA_gGUvc/s72-c/doxa_logo_109x50.png" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/04/another-free-reformed-resource-from.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-7249953544757084848</id><published>2009-03-27T13:00:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-28T17:29:40.488-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Sermons and Preaching" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pastoral Ministry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><title type="text">Phil Johnson on the Importance of Sound Words</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/Sc0UdN1y9LI/AAAAAAAAAX0/t3_F-ceAv4U/s1600-h/PhilJohnson.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 170px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 210px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5317929227158484146" border="0" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/Sc0UdN1y9LI/AAAAAAAAAX0/t3_F-ceAv4U/s320/PhilJohnson.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; I was recently made aware that the video of Phil Johnson's message "Sound Doctrine; Sound Words" has been made available on YouTube. However, since it has been broken down into seven parts, I thought it would be good to post all seven of the videos here so that they could be easily watched, in order, all on one page.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am very much in agreement with most of what Phil has to say, even if some of it is critical of Mark Driscoll. He only mentions Mark by name a couple of times. However, he also refers to Seattle at least a couple of times, and he remarks that the Apostle Paul could never have been known as "the cussing Apostle." These appear to be allusions either to Mark or his ministry in Seattle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you would like to learn more about the history of Phil Johnson and Mark Driscoll on the issue of what makes for appropriate language in the pulpit, I think that Jonathan Christman has done a good job of kindly and fairly tracking it at his &lt;a href="http://epangelia.blogspot.com/2009/03/phil-johnson-vs-mark-dricsoll-brief.html"&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;. (Thanks to Bob Gonzales for letting us know about these articles on the Reformed Baptist Discussion List.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reason I am glad that Jonathan is tracking this from both points of view is that I think it has become a very important matter to the Church in America. I just happen to lean strongly toward Phil Johnson's end of the spectrum, and I think after you all view these videos you will see why.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/ZcMYzsVRMy0&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/ZcMYzsVRMy0&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" 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src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/PW9rZk0Lzlg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/JwB-7aw2Px0&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/JwB-7aw2Px0&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/lFqGl33qPGg&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/lFqGl33qPGg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/X5ZxRCK1bbY&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/X5ZxRCK1bbY&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/hj5oD1pVLd8&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/hj5oD1pVLd8&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree with Mark that sometimes strong language and sarcasm are appropriate, especially when dealing with false teachers, but I couldn't agree more with Phil that language that is considered vulgar or is filled with sexual innuendo is out of place for the Christian, especially for the pastor-teacher from the pulpit.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-7249953544757084848?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/3RIN2EvxRv4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/7249953544757084848/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=7249953544757084848" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/7249953544757084848" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/7249953544757084848" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/3RIN2EvxRv4/phil-johnson-on-importance-of-sound.html" title="Phil Johnson on the Importance of Sound Words" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/Sc0UdN1y9LI/AAAAAAAAAX0/t3_F-ceAv4U/s72-c/PhilJohnson.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/03/phil-johnson-on-importance-of-sound.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-8232220545010120512</id><published>2009-03-19T14:47:00.016-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-15T16:39:19.918-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="House-Church Movement" /><title type="text">Response to the House-Church Movement: Conclusion</title><content type="html">In this conclusion to my series in response to the House-Church Movement (HCM), I would like first to list for you the links to the six main articles in the series. Since several people have indicated that it would be easier to have the articles listed in order, I hope that doing so here will provide what they have requested:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/02/response-to-house-church-movement-part.html"&gt;Part One&lt;/a&gt;: Does the Bible require that churches meet strictly in houses rather than in other kinds of buildings?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/02/response-to-house-church-movement-part_20.html"&gt;Part two&lt;/a&gt;: Does the Bible require that church gatherings be “completely open and participatory with no one leading”?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/03/response-to-house-church-movement-part.html"&gt;Part Three&lt;/a&gt;: Does the Bible require that the Lord's Supper be celebrated only as part of a “full meal”?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/09/response-to-house-church-movement-part.html"&gt;Part Four&lt;/a&gt;: What kind of authority – if any – do elders have in the churches?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/12/response-to-house-church-movement-part.html"&gt;Part Five&lt;/a&gt;: What is the meaning of &lt;em&gt;ekklēsía&lt;/em&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2008/05/response-to-house-church-movement-part.html"&gt;Part Six&lt;/a&gt;: What is the proper understanding of Hebrews 13:17?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although these six articles do discuss many of the major problems to be found in the House-Church Movement, I think it will be helpful to conclude the series by providing a summary of some of the primary concerns with what the HCM advocates are saying and of some of the possible ramifications. I will list briefly a number of points by way of both positive and negative critique.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Positive Critique&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;First&lt;/em&gt;, the focus upon every member of the body of Christ being truly necessary for its health and edification is a much needed reminder for many churches. There is a tendency in many churches to focus too much on a “professional clergy” to do the ministry instead of encouraging all the members of the body to discover and use their gifts for the edification of the whole. HCM advocates are right to seek to correct this problem. For example, the Apostle Paul says in his first epistle to the Corinthian church:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;NKJ 1 Corinthians 12:4-22 “4 There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all. 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: 8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills. 12 For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-- whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free-- and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. 14 For in fact the body is not one member but many. 15 If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body," is it therefore not of the body? 16 And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body," is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling? 18 But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased. 19 And if they were all one member, where would the body be? 20 But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. 21 And the eye cannot say to the hand, "I have no need of you"; nor again the head to the feet, "I have no need of you." 22 No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Second&lt;/em&gt;, the emphasis upon building relationships that are necessary to fulfill the Bible's commands regarding our responsibilities to one another is much appreciated. The Bible teaches, for example, that we must love one another (John 13:34), admonish one another (Rom. 15:4), bear one another's burden's (Gal. 6:2), and “consider one another in order to stir up love and good works” (Heb. 10:24). All such commands require that we actually &lt;em&gt;know&lt;/em&gt; one another &lt;em&gt;well&lt;/em&gt;, and HCM advocates are right to try to foster an atmosphere in which this may be more easily facilitated. This is especially important given that we live in a society that relies more heavily every day on technologies such as phones, email, and internet chat, all of which serve a good purpose but also tend to depersonalize interaction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Third&lt;/em&gt;, the reminder that there is a future focus to the Lord' Supper is also appreciated. In my experience, far too many churches seem to miss this altogether. Yet, along with reverently remembering the sacrifice Jesus made for us on the cross (Luke 22:19), this is a legitimate and important focus of the Lord's Supper. For example, when He instituted the Lord's Supper, Jesus said, “For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom” (Matt. 26:28-29, see also Luke 22:16-17). And Paul reminds us that when we partake of the Lord's Supper, we “proclaim the Lord's death till He comes” (1 Cor. 11:26).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Fourth&lt;/em&gt;, I also appreciate the warning by many HCM advocates about the danger of identifying the church with a &lt;em&gt;building&lt;/em&gt; rather than with the &lt;em&gt;body&lt;/em&gt; of Christ. This is another way in which people may too easily miss the Biblical emphasis upon &lt;em&gt;relationships&lt;/em&gt; rather than &lt;em&gt;events&lt;/em&gt; that happen at a building. The Bible clearly teaches, however, that the Church is the true temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 3:16-17; Eph. 2:19-22) and that the Church is a family, a “household of faith” (Gal. 6:10). HCM advocates are right to point out the danger of too much emphasis upon a physical building, especially when the building tends to become more important to some than the people who use it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Negative Critique&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sadly, it is disturbing to me that the negatives outweigh the positives with regard to the House-Church Movement, at least as I see it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;First&lt;/em&gt;, HCM advocates tend to undermine the authority of Scripture through emphasis upon a “tradition” that they read back into Scripture. In this way, many of them are making requirements of certain practices that the Scriptures do not require. For example, they are teaching that meeting in homes, partaking of the Lord's Supper as a part of a larger meal, and having completely open, spontaneous meetings with no one leading, are all &lt;em&gt;requirements&lt;/em&gt; of Scripture. Steve Atkerson provides a good illustration of this problem in all three of these areas:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1) With respect to meeting exclusively in homes, Steve Atkerson says in his article entitled &lt;a href="http://www.ntrf.org/articles/article_detail.php?PRKey=10"&gt;Participatory Church Meetings&lt;/a&gt;, "In short, we believe that the patterns for church life evident in the New Testament are not merely descriptive, but are actually prescriptive (2Th 2:15 , 1Co 11:2). Thus, we believe in home-based and sized fellowships...." (See &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/02/response-to-house-church-movement-part.html"&gt;Part One&lt;/a&gt; of this series for my response.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) With respect to having completely open meetings that are interactive and spontaneous, with no one leading, Steve Atkerson says in the aforementioned article, “Holding church meetings in this spontaneous, interactive manner is in fact declared to be imperative according to 1 Corinthians 14:37, 'If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord’s command.' Thus, 1 Corinthians 14 is not merely descriptive of primitive church meetings. Rather, it is prescriptive of the way our Lord expects meetings of the whole church to be conducted.” (See &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/02/response-to-house-church-movement-part_20.html"&gt;Part Two&lt;/a&gt; of this series for my response.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) With regard to eating the Lord's Supper as a part of a larger meal, in an article entitled &lt;a href="http://www.ntrf.org/articles/article_detail.php?PRKey=9"&gt;The Lord's Supper - Rehearsal Dinner For The Wedding Banquet of The Lamb&lt;/a&gt;, Atkerson argues in the same way he has about the Apostolic tradition and meeting in homes: "Why would anyone want to depart from the way Christ and His apostles practiced the Lord’s Supper? The apostles clearly were pleased when churches held to their traditions (1Co 11:2) and even commanded that they do so (2Th 2:15 ). We have no authorization to deviate from it." (See &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/03/response-to-house-church-movement-part.html"&gt;Part Three&lt;/a&gt; of this series for my response.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In each of these cases – as I believe my responses in this series have demonstrated – HCM advocates are making these matters requirements when the Bible does not do so. But doesn't this actually lead to the subversion of Biblical authority? Doesn't it make the HCM advocates themselves out to be the real authority?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, I will be quick to point out that I do not think this is an intentional thing on their part. I don't think for a second, for example, that Steve Atkerson would ever intentionally undermine Scriptural authority. But the fact remains that this is what happens when anyone tries to say that his own practices have the same authority as Scripture when, in fact, Scripture itself does &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; command them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Second&lt;/em&gt;, I am also concerned about the danger of legalism, which follows from my previous point. For the very heart of legalism is to demand of people what God does not demand and to judge their spirituality – or perceived lack thereof – on the basis of such supposed requirements.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, I again will be quick to add that I have not seen a big problem with legalism in most of the HCM advocates I have met. Most of them believe in salvation by grace through faith alone and would quickly decry legalism as a means of salvation. But this does not mean that the danger of legalism is not there when a group of Christians begins to teach as necessary what God has not said is necessary. Legalism is a danger for any such group. We all have this tendency, and we all need to remember Jesus' warning to the Pharisees:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;NKJ Mark 7:6-7 “6 He answered and said to them, 'Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: “This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. 7 And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.”'"&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Third&lt;/em&gt;, I am concerned that their strong emphasis upon partaking of the Lord's Supper as part of a full meal will lead to the danger of falling into the kind of abuses Paul confronted in Corinth (1 Cor. 11:17-34). For example, I fear that they will begin treating it as just any other meal, a problem that the church at Corinth had precisely because they were apparently partaking of the Lord's Supper in conjunction with a larger meal. (See my treatment of this issue in &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/03/response-to-house-church-movement-part.html"&gt;Part Three&lt;/a&gt; of this series.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Fourth&lt;/em&gt;, I am concerned about an apparent lack of respect for Biblically constituted authority in the churches. I have highlighted and addressed this issue in &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/09/response-to-house-church-movement-part.html"&gt;Part Four&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/12/response-to-house-church-movement-part.html"&gt;Part Five&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2008/05/response-to-house-church-movement-part.html"&gt;Part Six&lt;/a&gt; of this series. There is a simultaneous minimizing of the role and authority of elders in the churches while emphasizing the role of the congregation. While I appreciate their renewed stress on the importance of every member of the body being involved in ministry, I fear that there is not a due appreciation for the Biblical teaching of the necessity of godly elder leadership in the churches.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also sense some hypocrisy here. HCM advocates often claim that the rest of us have been too influenced by pagan culture in our practices, yet they apparently fail to consider that their own lack of respect for authority (and church history) just happens to coincide very nicely with current cultural influences. This indicates a big blind spot in HCM advocates, for they seem quite willing to see most Christians – at least over the past 1700 years or so – as blind to cultural influences in their interpretation and application of Scripture, while they do not seem to recognize the likelihood that it is they who have been so blinded. It is particularly striking to me that they are even so critical in this regard of Christians since the Reformation. I mean, doesn't it seem to be at least &lt;em&gt;possible&lt;/em&gt; – if not &lt;em&gt;probable&lt;/em&gt; – that it is they, and not virtually all Evangelical Christians for the past 500 years, who have gotten it wrong?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Conclusion&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have attempted to summarize here some of the best and worst aspects of the portion of the House-Church Movement to which I have been responding. I hope that this series has been helpful to the blog's readers. For those who are interested, I would also remind you that there is an &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/05/interview-on-house-church-movement.html"&gt;interview&lt;/a&gt; available, in which I have discussed a few of these issues with Roderick Edwards. In this interview I point out what I would like to end with here. I understand that these HCM advocates are attempting to hold us accountable to Scripture in their challenges to so many of our practices, and I actually appreciate their efforts to some extent. In response, I want to stress that it is my desire to return the favor. I hope in the process that I have spoken the truth as I see it with love (Eph. 4:15). Although I have had to adopt a confrontational tone at times, I want to assure my readers that my intentions – insofar as I am aware of them before the Lord – have only been to help my brethren in the House-Church Movement and in the larger body of Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am gratified that many have indicated to me that this series has indeed been helpful to them and has even helped a few churches to overcome or head off a great deal of strife over these matters. But, whether in agreement or disagreement with my views, as always, I welcome your comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Soli Deo gloria!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;P.S.&lt;/em&gt; I have noticed that the titles of a few of the articles I have cited in this series were changed between the earlier posts and this conclusion. However, I have done my best to check the sources and believe that the titles and citations here are accurate. When I have time, I may try to go back and edit the previous articles to reflect these changes. I assume the links will still work correctly, but I haven't yet been able to go back and see if the articles themselves have been changed since I first cited them. This can be one of the more frustrating things about responding to blogs and online articles. Also, both Steve Atkerson and Beresford Job have published books since I wrote much of this series, but I think the content here – taken from their online sources – is still an accurate assessment of their respective positions.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-8232220545010120512?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/u7czog9Ls34" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/8232220545010120512/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=8232220545010120512" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/8232220545010120512" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/8232220545010120512" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/u7czog9Ls34/response-to-house-church-movement.html" title="Response to the House-Church Movement: Conclusion" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/03/response-to-house-church-movement.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-7898972929821155658</id><published>2009-03-11T13:13:00.008-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-11T16:02:39.651-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Gospel" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><title type="text">Paul Washer on the Converted Versus the Unconverted Church Member</title><content type="html">&lt;object height="364" width="445"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nJqx5NHkB8A&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nJqx5NHkB8A&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="445" height="364"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first passage that I thought of when I heard this illustration was in Matthew 3, where we read of the preaching of John the Baptist to the Pharisees and Sadducees:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Mat 3:7-12 "7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, 'Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?&lt;br /&gt;8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, 9 and do not think to say to yourselves,"We have Abraham as our father." For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. 10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 12 His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then, of course, Jesus came teaching the same idea, namely that true salvation is accompanied by "fruits worthy of repentance." For example:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Matthew 7:17-21 "17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them. 21 Not everyone who says to Me,'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And on another occasion, Jesus reminded His disciples:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ John 15:8 "By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; life bear fruit worthy of repentance? Or do you &lt;em&gt;say&lt;/em&gt; that Jesus is Lord, but deny His Lordship through your actions? Perhaps you are not a true believer, then? Or perhaps you are a believer such as the one Peter describes in his second epistle, who has become nearsighted or "shortsighted":&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ 2 Peter 1:5-9 "5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have you gotten just far enough away from your salvation experience and from a close walk with Christ that you have forgotten what it means to have been cleansed from your former sins? If so, then the answer for you is the same as it is for the false believer. You need the Gospel! You need to remember that we can only be saved by grace through faith in Christ alone, through His sinless life, His atoning death on the cross, and His resurrection from the dead. Ask the Lord to open your eyes that you may see and to renew faith and repentance in your heart. I am confident that he will answer!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But if you have never truly believed in Christ, but perhaps have learned to say all the right things and to make yourself appear to others as though you are a Christian, when you know you are not, then you need to recognize the precarious position that you are in. And you need to throw yourself upon the grace of God as well, asking Him to give you genuine faith and repentance for the first time. For only He can save you!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NKJ Ephesians 2:8-10 "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bible teaches that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" and that "the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 3:23; 6:23). When it speaks of the "wages of sin," it is speaking of what we deserve for having done wrong in the sight of God, but it also teaches us about the "gift" of eternal life which we do not deserve. Thus God offers us freely through Jesus that which we cannot earn. He offers to do for us in Christ that which we cannot do for ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Will you put your faith in Jesus to save you from the punishment your sins deserve?&lt;/em&gt; He is willing to forgive you and give you eternal life if you ask Him. "If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation" (Romans 10:9-10).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to know more about the Gospel, or you would like some counsel from God's Word, please leave a comment with your email address, and I will contact you.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-7898972929821155658?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/85Hx8DteKa4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/7898972929821155658/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=7898972929821155658" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/7898972929821155658" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/7898972929821155658" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/85Hx8DteKa4/paul-washer-on-converted-versus.html" title="Paul Washer on the Converted Versus the Unconverted Church Member" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/03/paul-washer-on-converted-versus.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-5914142994383948517</id><published>2009-03-07T18:57:00.006-06:00</published><updated>2009-03-07T22:06:44.055-06:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reformed Ministries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pastoral Ministry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Items of Interest" /><title type="text">Free Copy of John Calvin: A Heart for Devotion, Doctrine, and Doxology</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SbMYI4RZIxI/AAAAAAAAAXs/UBL-r9Vl-Vw/s1600-h/Calvin+book+offer.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5310614926423302930" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 150px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 222px" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SbMYI4RZIxI/AAAAAAAAAXs/UBL-r9Vl-Vw/s320/Calvin+book+offer.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.ligonier.org/publishing_reformationtrust.php"&gt;Reformation Trust Publishing&lt;/a&gt; is making available a free copy of the book &lt;a href="http://calvinforpastors.ligonier.org/"&gt;Calvin: A Heart for Devotion, Doctrine, and Doxology&lt;/a&gt;. They are charging $5.00 for shipping and handling, but this book is a steal at that price!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is a description of the offer from the Ligioner website:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;Dear Pastors, &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;John Calvin: A Heart for Devotion, Doctrine, and Doxology&lt;/em&gt; is a&lt;br /&gt;winsome portrait that dashes stereotypes about Calvin and the theological system that bears his name. In answer to why it is important for laypeople to study John Calvin's writings, Burk Parsons explains:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;"First of all, the people of God should be wholeheartedly engaged, first and foremost, in the daily study of God's Word. Second, as God's people study God's Word in depth they will quickly understand the necessity of interpreting Scripture with Scripture, and that is precisely what Calvin helps us to do -- to the end that we might know and proclaim the whole counsel of God. Third, John Calvin was not an ivory-tower theologian who was out of touch with the real-life struggles of God's people. Not only did he struggle himself, but he knew well the plight of his people in his congregation. He could empathize with their afflictions and so shepherded them in preaching, praying, writing, and counseling. Calvin was, first and foremost, a pastor of God's people."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;A small shipping and handling charge of $5.00 will be included. Please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Disclaimer: This offer is limited to full-time pastors and church leadership. One copy per church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I jumped at this opportunity, especially since I am reading through Calvin's &lt;em&gt;Institutes of the Christian Religion&lt;/em&gt; this year. As always, I am happy to inform the blog's readers of any such opportunities I find.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-5914142994383948517?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/jLSdJO1S1fw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/5914142994383948517/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=5914142994383948517" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/5914142994383948517" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/5914142994383948517" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/jLSdJO1S1fw/free-copy-of-john-calvin-heart-for.html" title="Free Copy of John Calvin: A Heart for Devotion, Doctrine, and Doxology" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SbMYI4RZIxI/AAAAAAAAAXs/UBL-r9Vl-Vw/s72-c/Calvin+book+offer.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/03/free-copy-of-john-calvin-heart-for.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-2399777674628854202</id><published>2009-03-05T14:11:00.005-06:00</published><updated>2009-03-05T14:23:28.674-06:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bible Study" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bible Versions and Translation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Software and Internet" /><title type="text">Free Online Access to the ESV Study Bible</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SbAyKb1eNVI/AAAAAAAAAXk/a66J8I991K8/s1600-h/ESV.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5309799115521930578" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 160px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 131px" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SbAyKb1eNVI/AAAAAAAAAXk/a66J8I991K8/s320/ESV.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; If you have thought about purchasing the &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/"&gt;ESV Study Bible&lt;/a&gt;, but are not sure you want to spend the money without first giving it a thorough examination, then you will definitely want to take advantage of the free online access that Crossway is allowing for the month of March. Normally this feature is available only to those who have purchased a copy of the ESV Study Bible, so be sure to check it out now while it lasts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is the announcement from the &lt;a href="http://www.esv.org/blog/2009/03/esvosb-free-online-access/"&gt;ESV Bible Blog&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Crossway is pleased to make the &lt;a href="http://www.esvstudybible.org/online" target="_self"&gt;ESV Online Study Bible&lt;/a&gt; available free—for anyone and everyone—for a limited time beginning today, March 2, 2009. Until now, the ESV Online Study Bible has been available exclusively to those who have purchased the &lt;a href="http://www.esvstudybible.org/#formats" target="_self"&gt;print edition&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In addition to the features found in the print edition, the ESV Online Study Bible provides numerous interactive features enabling readers to:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;• Record personal notes, reflections, and links&lt;br /&gt;• Click hyperlinked cross references&lt;br /&gt;• Search by verse, topic, or keyword&lt;br /&gt;• Digitally highlight Bible passages with various colors&lt;br /&gt;• Listen to audio of passages&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For full access to these features through March 31, 2009, visit &lt;a href="http://www.esvstudybible.org/online" target="_self"&gt;www.esvstudybible.org/online&lt;/a&gt;. Simply create a login and password. Email information will not be shared, nor will there be any obligation to purchase.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can also access all the Articles and Charts &amp;amp; Maps. I think you will be impressed!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-2399777674628854202?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/zqwxYVheO_Y" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/2399777674628854202/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=2399777674628854202" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/2399777674628854202" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/2399777674628854202" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/zqwxYVheO_Y/free-online-access-to-esv-study-bible.html" title="Free Online Access to the ESV Study Bible" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SbAyKb1eNVI/AAAAAAAAAXk/a66J8I991K8/s72-c/ESV.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/03/free-online-access-to-esv-study-bible.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-215250818166303082</id><published>2009-02-26T07:10:00.009-06:00</published><updated>2009-03-07T22:06:12.001-06:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="House-Church Movement" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Announcements" /><title type="text">Blog Update</title><content type="html">I just wanted to take some time to update the blog's readers on the status of a few things. As most of you know, I try to post at least once a week, and I have been able to maintain this over the past year for the most part. I have tried to continue posting about articles, books, websites, and software that I think will be helpful to my Christian brothers and sisters, especially those of the Reformed Baptist persuasion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, I haven't been able to post much in terms of original material. For example, I haven't kept up with the series of responses to the House-Church Movement, and I haven't found the time to work on a new series of posts about modifying the Baptist Confession of 1689. This is largely because of the busy and difficult days of the past year. Regular readers will remember my last &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2008/06/blog-update.html"&gt;Blog Update&lt;/a&gt;, for example, in which I referred to my wife's battle with ovarian cancer. She was diagnosed in April and underwent major surgery, after which she went through six cycles of chemotherapy ending in October. Then – in addition to some chronic pain – I came down with one cold and flu after another over the winter, which was apparently because of a weakened immune system due to a rather nasty and painful prostate infection. I am happy to say, however, that I am on the mend. And I am &lt;em&gt;even happier&lt;/em&gt; to say that my beloved wife, Kim, has been doing very well, and follow up blood tests and CT scans still look great!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, I am not writing this update to complain, but only to inform you all about what has been going on. In fact, I don't have &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; complaints about the past year. God has graciously kept His promise to work through our trials for His glory and our good, and I wouldn't have wanted it any other way. And now I hope to get some time to write more. Perhaps I will even write about some of the various Scripture passages that the Lord has used to guide us through some of these rough seas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With regard to the series of articles on the &lt;a href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/search/label/House-Church%20Movement"&gt;House-Church Movement&lt;/a&gt; (HCM), I have decided not to write the article about pastor pay as part of the series, since the series has been focused primarily upon the segment of the HCM represented by Beresford Job and Steve Atkerson, and neither of them appear opposed to paying pastors. So I didn't want to unfairly associate their view with this position, and I fear that addressing the matter as a part of a series focused primarily on them might have done this. The many HCM advocates who &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; opposed to paying pastors appear to be influenced instead by the book &lt;em&gt;Pagan Christianity&lt;/em&gt;, so I will probably write an article separate from the series addressing that book's assertions on the issue. This means I will write a conclusion to the main HCM series soon, hopefully in the next couple of weeks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lord willing, I will also get back to the series on the Baptist Confession of 1689, in which I hope to offer some good suggestions for discussion among Reformed Baptists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On a final note, I have been thinking that adding another writer to the blog might be a good idea. Or perhaps others will want to contribute the occasional article. Please pray for the Lord's leading and blessing. I am so grateful that he has used this blog thus far for the good of His people and for His own glory, and I long to see this continue and increase.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for your kind attention!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-215250818166303082?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/K0ymkLRgcV4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/215250818166303082/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=215250818166303082" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/215250818166303082" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/215250818166303082" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/K0ymkLRgcV4/blog-update.html" title="Blog Update" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-update.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-5022367226138051409</id><published>2009-02-21T20:24:00.005-06:00</published><updated>2009-03-05T15:40:10.649-06:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reformed Ministries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Announcements" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Items of Interest" /><title type="text">2009 Band of Bloggers Meeting</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SaC327OoCPI/AAAAAAAAAXU/lqymmkUGHRc/s1600-h/BoB+2009.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5305442515282299122" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 150px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 75px" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SaC327OoCPI/AAAAAAAAAXU/lqymmkUGHRc/s320/BoB+2009.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; In case you haven't heard yet, the 2009 Band of Bloggers meeting will be held in conjunction with this year's &lt;a href="http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/conferences/2009"&gt;Gospel Coalition Conference&lt;/a&gt;. It will be held on April 22. Here is the description for this year's meeting from the &lt;a href="http://bandofbloggers.org/"&gt;Band of Bloggers&lt;/a&gt; website:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;This is how one should regard us, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God.~ 1 Corinthians 4:1&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From generation to generation, God has faithfully raised up and empowered His people to be servants of Christ and stewards of the Gospel. What is unlike generations in the past is the ability through technology to literally impact the entire world. For the past 5-10 years, the advent of blogging and social media has afforded followers of Christ to personally broadcast the good news of Jesus Christ while developing a web of relationships that has formed a gospel-centered community seeking to leverage whatever means possible to spread the fragrance of the knowledge of Christ everywhere–both in person and on the web.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Band of Bloggers is an informal fellowship of gospel-committed writers seeking to encourage faithfulness in what is spoken of Christ while raising the standard of discourse to reflect the character of those called to blog worthy of the gospel to which&lt;br /&gt;we have been called.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This year, we are excited to announce that Band of Bloggers is partnering with &lt;a href="http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/conferences/2009" modo="false"&gt;The&lt;br /&gt;Gospel Coalition Conference &lt;/a&gt;to host the 3rd Band of Bloggers Fellowship in conjunction with their national conference in Chicago, IL. On Wednesday, April 22, 2009, from 12:00-2:00 p.m., we will be hosting a lunch and fellowship at the Rosemont Conference Center. The theme of the conference is “Servants &amp;amp; Stewards” (building off of 1 Cor. 4:1), which expresses a two-pronged approach in faithfulness as servants and effectiveness as stewards. As servants, we want to make much of our Savior in not just what we say but how we say it. As stewards, we want to collectively labor to leverage all available means to propagate and publish the Gospel in our increasingly technologically-literate culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To do this, Band of Bloggers has sought the instruction and encouragement from well-known evangelical bloggers to addresses various issues. Taking a slightly different approach than in years past, we are given each person one question to answer in 5-7 minutes and then diving into Q&amp;amp;A/discussion. Here’s what we have in&lt;br /&gt;store for 2009:&lt;br /&gt;_______________&lt;br /&gt;1. Servants and Stewards: Maximizing your blog in service to Christ (&lt;a href="http://timmybrister.com/"&gt;Timmy&lt;br /&gt;Brister&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;2. How can we blog for the glory of God? (&lt;a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/"&gt;Justin Taylor&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;3. Improving usability: How to write so people can read (&lt;a href="http://theresurgence.com/"&gt;Mike Anderson&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;4. How can you use your blog for the edification of the church? (&lt;a href="http://www.challies.com/"&gt;Tim Challies&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;5. How can you make your site more accessible and visible? (&lt;a href="http://epjohnson.com/"&gt;Eric Johnson&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;6. Why should pastors blog? (&lt;a href="http://www.newcitypres.com/blog/"&gt;Tullian Tchividjian&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;7. What is the place for art and culture in Christian blogging? (&lt;a href="http://www.stevekmccoy.com/"&gt;Steve McCoy&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;8. How can bloggers steward the teaching of the young, old, and the dead? (&lt;a href="http://spurgeon.wordpress.com/"&gt;Tony Reinke&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;______________&lt;br /&gt;One of the highlights of Band of Blogger fellowship is the opportunity to meet people you may have encountered on the Internet and network together with people of kindred spirit who share a common passion for the glory of Christ and the advancement of His Gospel. Together with &lt;a href="http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/conferences/2009" modo="false"&gt;The Gospel Coalition National Conference&lt;/a&gt;, this will be a week that you will not want to miss!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lord willing, I will be attending both of these gatherings this year. Hope to see many of my fellow bloggers there as well!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-5022367226138051409?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/8NxA2eCkoSQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/5022367226138051409/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=5022367226138051409" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/5022367226138051409" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/5022367226138051409" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/8NxA2eCkoSQ/2009-band-of-bloggers-meeting.html" title="2009 Band of Bloggers Meeting" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SaC327OoCPI/AAAAAAAAAXU/lqymmkUGHRc/s72-c/BoB+2009.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/02/2009-band-of-bloggers-meeting.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-873992650957081510</id><published>2009-02-13T22:10:00.009-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-19T09:48:45.377-06:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bible Study" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Baptist Confession of 1689" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Creeds" /><title type="text">Robert Gonzales on Divine Impassibility and Passibility</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SZZE3gaC8LI/AAAAAAAAAXM/_o-61ydaLVs/s1600-h/Bob_Gonzales.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5302501331658010802" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 150px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 150px" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SZZE3gaC8LI/AAAAAAAAAXM/_o-61ydaLVs/s320/Bob_Gonzales.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Regular readers of this blog will already have noticed that I am becoming quite a fan of Dr. Gonzales. He is a solid, thoughtful, tenaciously &lt;em&gt;Biblical&lt;/em&gt; theologian, and he is a good writer who communicates difficult matters clearly. He is good at putting the cookies on the bottom shelf, where we can all get at them (so to speak).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, he has recently finished a three part series of articles over at the &lt;a href="http://blog.rbseminary.org/"&gt;RBS Tabletalk &lt;/a&gt;blog on the the issue of whether or not God feels. I regard these as a &lt;em&gt;must read&lt;/em&gt;. Here are the links to the individual posts:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://blog.rbseminary.org/2009/02/there-is-no-pain-you-are-misreading-is-god-comfortably-numb/"&gt;"There Is No Pain, You Are Misreading": Is God "Comfortably Numb"? Part 1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://blog.rbseminary.org/2009/02/%E2%80%9Cthere-is-no-pain-you-are-misreading%E2%80%9D-is-god-%E2%80%9Ccomfortably-numb%E2%80%9D-part-2/"&gt;"There Is No Pain, You Are Misreading": Is God "Comfortably Numb"? Part 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://blog.rbseminary.org/2009/02/%e2%80%9cthere-is-no-pain-you-are-misreading%e2%80%9d-is-god-%e2%80%9ccomfortably-numb%e2%80%9d-part-3/"&gt;"There Is No Pain, You Are Misreading": Is God "Comfortably Numb"? Part 3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is a quote that will give you a feel (no pun intended) for where the articles are heading:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One might say that God is “impassible” &lt;em&gt;from the perspective of his transcendence&lt;/em&gt; and “passible” &lt;em&gt;from the perspective of his immanence&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ve tried to think of a good illustration. Imagine God as the cosmic movie scriptwriter, producer, and director. God’s also chosen, like many modern directors, to participate in the story as one of the main actors. Indeed, he’s given himself the leading role. He’s created a magnificent epic. It’s full of tragedy. But it has a happy ending. As the scriptwriter, producer, and director, God takes pride in his work and enjoys it with a sense of peace, calm, and gratification, knowing the plot has a glorious ending. But as God actively participates in the various stages of the plot in the capacity of actor, he weeps at misfortune, grows angry at injustice, and rejoices in the triumph of good. Granted, this illustration fails to capture the full complexity of God’s heart. But I believe we must embrace all the biblical descriptions of God (those&lt;br /&gt;emphasizing his transcendence as well as those emphasizing his immanence) even&lt;br /&gt;if we can’t fully conceptualize their relations.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I affirm that God is self-contained, independent, and wholly satisfied with himself. He possesses a kind of joy that cannot be marred. Yet, I also affirm that within the matrix of human history God experiences grief, sorrow, anger, pleasure, love, hatred, jealousy, joy and peace. All of these emotional responses are perfectly consistent with his unchanging “being, wisdom, power, holiness, justice, goodness, and truth.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I personally agree with Gonzales' conclusions, and I was also impressed with the way that he interacted with both sides of the Reformed tradition on the issues involved. I encourage you to give these articles a thorough read, especially since this is one of the more crucial issues in modern theological debate.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-873992650957081510?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/KMD47gUOsgg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/873992650957081510/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=873992650957081510" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/873992650957081510" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/873992650957081510" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/KMD47gUOsgg/robert-gonzales-on-divine-impassibility.html" title="Robert Gonzales on Divine Impassibility and Passibility" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SZZE3gaC8LI/AAAAAAAAAXM/_o-61ydaLVs/s72-c/Bob_Gonzales.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/02/robert-gonzales-on-divine-impassibility.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-5633863798017931672</id><published>2009-02-07T17:18:00.005-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-09T09:40:13.882-06:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Sermons and Preaching" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Reformed Ministries" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Software and Internet" /><title type="text">Free CD of Albert N. Martin's Doctrinal Sermons</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SY4XBugVwLI/AAAAAAAAAXE/LMQtL67QPcI/s1600-h/Al+Martin.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5300199129892634802" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 100px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 130px" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SY4XBugVwLI/AAAAAAAAAXE/LMQtL67QPcI/s320/Al+Martin.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; The &lt;a href="http://www.sg-audiotreasures.org/"&gt;Sovereign Grace Audio Treasures&lt;/a&gt; website is offering a series of Al Martin's sermons on doctrine. The series is entitled &lt;a href="http://www.sg-audiotreasures.org/am_hws.htm"&gt;Here We Stand&lt;/a&gt;. The messages can be downloaded separately or together. Or you can request a CD containing the whole series free of charge.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The series includes messages about the person and work of Christ, as well as about the various doctrines of salvation. Here is a brief description from the website:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This series of audio messages “is intended to provide a broad overview of the major elements of the Christian faith, as understood, believed preached and practiced by the true people of God in the past, and by this congregation today; an analysis of the faith once for all delivered to the saints.” It is designed to “confirm the old-timers among us, to initiate the new comers, and to inform the on-lookers.” It is suitable for personal or group study and can be taken as a whole or in part. &lt;/blockquote&gt;May God bless the faithful preaching of His Word!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19532009-5633863798017931672?l=reformedbaptist.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~4/Vy_XqHkNksk" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/feeds/5633863798017931672/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19532009&amp;postID=5633863798017931672" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/5633863798017931672" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19532009/posts/default/5633863798017931672" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReformedBaptistBlog/~3/Vy_XqHkNksk/free-cd-of-albert-n-martins-doctrinal.html" title="Free CD of Albert N. Martin's Doctrinal Sermons" /><author><name>Keith Throop</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08112617983370327521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="09152681346982701440" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6WVPWEj2ijk/SY4XBugVwLI/AAAAAAAAAXE/LMQtL67QPcI/s72-c/Al+Martin.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://reformedbaptist.blogspot.com/2009/02/free-cd-of-albert-n-martins-doctrinal.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19532009.post-5001003921856606599</id><published>2009-01-31T15:54:00.007-06:00</published><updated>2009-01-31T16:29:01.159-06:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Adversus Haereses" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Gospel" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><title type="text">Kirk Cameron's Interview of John MacArthur</title><content type="html">&lt;object height="405" width="500"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/tNQoOEG8P2I&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/tNQoOEG8P2I&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="405" width="500"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/M_YYNuMN5II&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;amp;color2=0x999999&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/M_YYNuMN5II&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="405"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These videos demonstrate well what I like so much about John MacArthur, and why I am beginning to appreciate Kirk Cameron more and more all the time. What is most amazing about these videos, however, isn't that MacArthur says what he says on television. We are used to seeing him faithfully proclaim the Gospel on TV shows like Larry King Live, for example. But &lt;em&gt;these&lt;/em&gt; videos are taken from an interview on TBN! Do the people who run that network even realize that virtually everything Cameron and Macarthur say is an indictment against &lt;em&gt;them&lt;/em&gt;? I guess the complete lack of discernment by those who run TBN has worked in favor of the truth for a change. 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