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    <subtitle>Marine Crossroads: Where Science, Ecology &amp; Hobby Meet</subtitle>
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        <title>Tropical Fish Hobbyist Magazine </title>
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        <published>2009-02-18T09:45:12-08:00</published>
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        <summary>In a previous blog entry, I questioned some numbers regarding the collection of wild-caught Banggai cardinalfish that were printed in a recent article in Tropical Fish Hobbyist Magazine. This may have led some to think that I am not a...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">In <a href="http://microcosmaqx.typepad.com/ret_talbot/2009/02/fuzzy-economics-about-banggais-in-tropical-fish-hobbyist-magazine.html">a previous blog entry</a>, I questioned some numbers regarding the collection of wild-caught Banggai cardinalfish that were printed in a recent article in <em><a href="http://www.tfhmagazine.com">Tropical Fish Hobbyist</a> Magazine</em>. This may have led some to think that I am not a fan of the magazine. This couldn’t be further from the truth. <em>Tropical Fish Hobbyist</em> is an established and respected aquarium publication with a reputation for informative articles, great photography and a track-record of unrivalled support of the hobby in general. I buy it, I read it, and I write for it. You should too.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">While I have been somewhat frustrated with what I perceive as the magazine’s one-sided coverage of the Banggai issue, I should point out that <em>Tropical Fish Hobbyist</em> is not alone. Since Eric Borneman’s public <a href="http://microcosmaqx.typepad.com/ret_talbot/2008/09/index.html">call to boycott</a> wild-caught Banggais at <a href="http://en.microcosmaquariumexplorer.com/wiki/MACNA">MACNA</a> last autumn, it seems the entire marine aquarium hobby press has been on some sort of myopic mission. If you have been <a href="http://microcosmaqx.typepad.com/ret_talbot/2008/09/banggai-cardina.html">following my blog entries</a> here, you know I think the mission may even have merit, but as journalists, I strongly believe we have an obligation to at least attempt to report objectively when we are covering a story such as this.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">I should point out that I have shared my concerns directly with the editor of <em>Tropical Fish Hobbyist</em>, and I always appreciate the time he takes to talk through the issues with me (difficult writers can, of course, be the bane of the editor’s existence). Those “off-the-record” conversations are, perhaps, the best testament to the magazine, as they indicate the commitment of the editor to the well-being and health of the hobby. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">So no, I am not promoting a boycott of <em>Tropical Fish Hobbyist</em>—I am simply advocating a wider ranging discussion when it comes to these very important issues that will have a lasting impact on the future of our hobby. Happy reading!</p></div>
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        <title>Fuzzy Economics about Banggais in Tropical Fish Hobbyist Magazine</title>
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        <published>2009-02-16T12:52:47-08:00</published>
        <updated>2009-02-16T12:52:28-08:00</updated>
        <summary>The call for a boycott on wild-caught Banggais, for me at least, goes to the heart of something about which I care deeply—the way that the marine aquarium hobby affects the socioeconomics of developing island nations. While I am not...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">The call for a boycott on wild-caught Banggais, for me at least, goes to the heart of something about which I care deeply—the way that the marine aquarium hobby affects the socioeconomics of developing island nations. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">While I am not prepared to jump on a soapbox and call foul to the whole “Boycott the Banggai Bandwagon,” I have been disheartened to hear how readily some individuals have completely dismissed the value of a sustainable trade in wild-caught Banggais for collectors and others on the supply side of the trade. A recent article in <em><a href="http://www.tfhmagazine.com">Tropical Fish Hobbyist</a></em> about the Banggai situation emphatically stated the following:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">Harvest of this species is not an important part of any local economy, and its trade is only supplemental at all levels. There are only about 230 fishers throughout this species' range that collect the fish, representing approximately 0.2 percent of the total human population of the area. At the current payment rate of 1 to 2.5 cents per fish (US$0.01 to 0.025), its economic value, even in a depressed region, is barely significant. It is obvious how little this species' collection helps support needy people.</p></blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">It is obvious how little this species’ collection helps support needy people? Did he really just write that? Putting aside all other factors for a moment, that comment seems plain insensitive to me. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">The author of the article goes on to "do the math,” claiming that 900,000 individual Banggai cardinalfish are exported yearly with a 55% mortality rate between collection and export. As such, he suggests that 1.8 million fish are collected each year, which is 7826 fish per collector per year. This, according to the author, "represents a supplemental income for each collector of between US$78 and US$195 per year."</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">To a western reader of <em>Tropical Fish Hobbyist</em>, $195—less than many aquarists spend on a single livestock purchase for their aquarium—might seem inconsequential, but let’s turn to someone with a local perspective and see what that person has to say.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">To dismiss the local collection of this species as being ‘not an important part of any local economy’ betrays a lack of understanding about conditions here. It also ignores the fact that the collectors are as important to the trade as anybody else in the trade chain, including exporters, importers, and retailers…. While the hobbyists and suppliers in the demand countries may eventually manage to successfully breed this species in a way that is economically viable for them, we are concerned that even less consideration will then be given to the collectors at the supply end, or for the wild stocks. Captive breeding does not necessarily lead to conservation of the species in the wild. </p></blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">To me, this point is a critical one as well over 90% of all marine aquarium fishes are wild-caught. In other words, the industry will have a connection to collectors and wild stocks at the supply end for the foreseeable future, yet this is not something we tend to talk about. In my opinion, we as an industry should be having the conversation about how our industry affects the socioeconomics of developing nations as least as much as we are so confidently recommending the boycott of a single species about which the data is fiercely debated.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">But let’s put the debate about the species aside for a moment and return to the economics of it as put forth by the author of the <em>Tropical Fish Hobbyist</em> article. My connection on the ground in Indonesia has this to say in response to the numbers bandied about in the article:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">The assertions that this trade at best provides ‘a supplemental income for each collector of between US$78 and US$195 per year.’, and that a cessation in trade would affect ‘Only a handful of people.’ are being used to justify possible trade restrictions, but from the recent information we have, would seem to be incorrect. These assertions also betray a lack of empathy for the communities for whom this trade is important, and on whom, for the time being at least, the trade in BCF largely depends. We were recently told that, for example, there are currently 30 collectors in Bone Baru, one of the collectors' villages in the Banggai area. They currently receive Rp. 350 (US$ 0.03) for each fish, and can sell up to 700 a week. This converts to 980,000 Rupiah (US$ 86.50) per month, (at 29 Jan 2009 rates), which is about US$1000 a year - significantly higher than the figure quoted above. Of course, this is still only a little under USD 3 a day, and there are a number of variables that affect the amount earned by each collector. These include irregular demand, periods of bad weather, mortality rates and so on, so the collectors' incomes are by no means guaranteed. However, for these collectors and their families, it still represents a significantly higher income than that earned by many of their fellow villagers.</p></blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">To be clear, I am not advocating that everyone run out and buy a wild-caught Banggai cardinalfish. In fact, I have gone “<a href="http://microcosmaqx.typepad.com/ret_talbot/2008/09/banggai-cardina.html">on the record</a>” stating that I think it is best to NOT buy wild-caught Banggais until more data is available. As I have written previously in this blog and elsewhere though, that data is being collected as we speak. Let's give it some time and support, and, in the interim, I hope we can all move forward with mutual respect while keeping the animals AND the local people in the forefront of our deliberations. </p></div>
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        <title>The Banggai Boycott; bluster, betrayal or benefit?</title>
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        <published>2009-02-16T11:45:49-08:00</published>
        <updated>2009-02-16T11:45:49-08:00</updated>
        <summary>As those of you who regularly read this blog know, I have been following the call for a wild-caught Banggai cardinalfish boycott with interest. One reason I am so interested in this issue is the fact that it seems to...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">As those of you who regularly read this blog know, I have been following the call for a wild-caught Banggai cardinalfish boycott with interest. One reason I am so interested in this issue is the fact that it seems to have captured so much air time in the hobby press, and yet there seems to be little effect on the average hobbyist. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">As I have written <a href="http://saltwaterfish.typepad.com/ret_talbot_blog/2009/01/captivebred-marine-aquarium-fishes.html">elsewhere</a>, hobbyists appear to still be buying wild-caught Banggais, as no local fish store I have frequented recently (and I make a vocational habit of frequenting many) is carrying captive-bred Banggais, and none of those local fish stores report that they have had a single customer request captive-bred Banggais. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">Yet whenever wild-caught Banggais come in, “they sell like hotcakes” (actual quotation from one store owner who himself was unaware of why selling wild-caught Banggais might be an issue).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">Weird, isn’t it?</p></div>
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        <title>PhyloChip</title>
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        <published>2009-02-14T10:52:33-08:00</published>
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        <summary>Have you heard about the PhyloChip? If not, here’s the skinny—it’s a palm-sized device that may help save coral reefs and the tropical saltwater fish that inhabit them. Because scientists know healthy coral colonies support specific microbial populations and diseased...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Have you heard about the PhyloChip? </p>
<p>If not, here’s the skinny—it’s a palm-sized device that may help save coral reefs and the tropical saltwater fish that inhabit them. Because scientists know healthy coral colonies support specific microbial populations and diseased coral colonies support different microbial populations, being able to sense shifts in microbial populations may help scientists learn more about the diseases which threaten corals. </p>
<p>The PhyloChip can sense up to 9,000 species of microbes and help researchers distinguish different coral diseases based on microbial populations. Could it have reef tank applications? </p>
<p>Check out the full article in Science Daily titled "<a href="http://" title="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090204174314.htm">What's Killing the Coral Reefs</a>."</p></div>
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        <title>The Myth of Secret Suppliers in the Marine Aquarium Industry</title>
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        <published>2009-02-13T09:07:04-08:00</published>
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        <summary>Let’s just get this out in the open: there are no secret suppliers in the marine aquarium industry. While some may claim there are, in reality anyone who wants to know from where their animals are coming can find out...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">Let’s just get this out in the open: there are no secret suppliers in the marine aquarium industry. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">While some may claim there are, in reality anyone who wants to know from where their animals are coming can find out in pretty short order. Once you understand this point, you realize that most of the “secret supplier” talk is little more than marketing hype, and, when you really look at it, it is, in my opinion, marketing hype that does a disservice to the industry. A sustainable and robust marine aquarium industry needs transparency far more than it needs secrecy right now.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><strong>Follow the Paper Trail</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">So how is it that I can so confidently claim there is no such thing as a secret supplier? The answer is pretty simple. If you do not have a connection in the industry who is more than willing to spill the beans on a competitor, than you always have the U.S. Fish and Wildlife’s Office of Law Enforcement. More than 200 special agents and 122 wildlife inspectors report through seven regional law enforcement offices to manage ecosystems, save endangered species, conserve migratory birds, preserve wildlife habitat, restore fisheries, combat invasive species, and promote international wildlife conservation every day of the year. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">For example, in Los Angeles, where the majority of animals bound for the marine aquarium trade enter the country, inspectors track all imported wildlife with a paper trail that would make the finest bureaucrat proud. And guess what...this paper trail is largely, as you might suspect, a matter of public record by way of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). Endangered and threatened species and species listed under the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES), which includes most coral, require importers to be permitted under 50 CFR 17 and 50 CFR 23 respectively. Want to know who is importing what? The answer is just a phone call (and, admittedly, some paperwork) away.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; tab-stops: 51.6pt">What about animals being imported through illegal channels? Well that is a very real concern, and it is a high stakes game that some choose to play. Fortunately, most of the animals that make it to market at your local retailer have come through legit channels (even when they are marketed as "secret"), but every once in a while, a big bust does occur like the one in London last year.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; tab-stops: 51.6pt"><strong>Does it Really Matter? It's Just Business</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; tab-stops: 51.6pt">In the final equation, you may be wondering who really cares. So what if a retailer markets its product (and, mind you, charges a premium for it) by saying it is direct from a secret supplier. So what if wholesaler X is hyper-protective of “his man” in Australia or Jakarta or Vietnam. It’s business, after all, and in business, companies seek an edge over the competition. If this edge can be achieved by giving the impression that they have access to a secret supplier, then so be it. Right?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; tab-stops: 51.6pt">Actually, I don’t subscribe to this line of reasoning, as there is much more at stake than the success of business X’s or Y’s bottom line. As Bob Fenner, author of <em>The Conscientious Marine Aquarist</em> eloquently put it to me while discussing this issue the other day, “think further on the effects on all the players involved. Indeed, if there are practices and folks of merit, is it not the best for all to be aware of them? Shouldn’t we share and even exclude non-‘A’ players—as in, get them out of our trade? This is absolutely so. Either deal proficiently, honestly and transparently or get out of my industry.”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; tab-stops: 51.6pt"><strong>A Marine Aquarium Industry Based on the Priciples of Fair Trade</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">In my perfect world, hobbyists would, through their buying power, seek to empower the best suppliers in the developing world. Hobbyists would seek out retailers who are committed to the principles of fair trade (and who only buy from wholesalers also committed to fair trade). Hobbyists would promote a sustainable and robust hobby by endorsing retailers who deal transparently with wholesalers and suppliers who are, by all metrics, “A players.” </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">Why does it matter? Suppliers in developing countries upon which this industry has always depended are frequently marginalized. We, through our purchasing power, have the ability to support them on a path to socioeconomic stability that will be good for them, the industry and the animals and ecosystems. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">Hiding suppliers behind a veil of secrecy—whether perceived or real—will only further marginalize them while at the same time leading to environmental degradation, declines in wild populations of marine animals and, ultimately, the collapse of the industry as we know it.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">The choice is ours.</p></div>
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        <title>Explore the Ocean with Google Earth!</title>
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        <published>2009-02-02T15:35:29-08:00</published>
        <updated>2009-02-02T15:35:29-08:00</updated>
        <summary>The coolest next best thing for marine aquarists with an interest in science, ocean ecosystems and technology just landed on the scene today, and you MUST go check it. Google Earth has now mapped the seas making it possible to...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font face="Calibri" size="3">The coolest next best thing for marine aquarists with an interest in science, ocean ecosystems and technology just landed on the scene today, and you MUST go check it. <a href="http://earth.google.com/">Google Earth</a> has now mapped the seas making it possible to tour underwater topography in the same way we have become accustomed to soaring over terrestrial landscapes. According to <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/03/science/earth/03oceans.html?_r=1">today’s <em>New York Times</em></a>, Google Ocean was born in March of 2006 when Sylvia Earle, a former chief scientist at the <a href="http://www.noaa.gov/">National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration</a> (NOAA), commented to John Hanke (Hanke is the co-creator of Keyhole which was bought by Google in 2004 and became Google Earth), “You’ve done a great job with the dirt. But what about the water?”</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Earle, who is also a friend to the marine aquarium industry and advisor to <a href="https://www.coralmagazineus.com/"><em>CORAL Magazine</em></a>, is quoted in today Times as saying:</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font face="Calibri" size="3">I’ve been struggling my whole life to figure out how to reach people and get them to understand they’re connected to the ocean, but I go to the supermarket and still see the United Nations of fish for sale. Marine sanctuaries are still not really protected. Google Earth gets all this information now and puts it in one place for the littlest kid and the stuffiest grownup to see in a way that hasn’t been possible in all preceding history.</font></p></blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font face="Calibri" size="3">What are you waiting for? <a href="http://http://earth.google.com/">Go check it out now!</a></font></p></div>
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        <title>Review of National Implementation of Banggai cardinalfish Act</title>
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        <published>2008-12-26T08:47:02-08:00</published>
        <updated>2008-12-26T08:47:02-08:00</updated>
        <summary>Gayatri (from LINI) just sent me an e-mail with long-awaited news pertaining to the Banggai situation and the November meeting in the Banggai Islands about which I have previously written here. The full report can be found on the LINI...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p class="EC_MsoNormal">Gayatri (from <a href="http://www.lini.or.id">LINI</a>) just sent me an e-mail with long-awaited news pertaining to the Banggai situation and the November meeting in the Banggai Islands about which I have previously written here. The <a href="http://www.lini.or.id/news.php?lang=&amp;menu=2008-12-22+13:23:14" target="_blank">full report can be found</a> on the LINI webiste.</p>
<p>In short, the meeting took place on November 23 and 24th in Palu. The agenda was to review program implementation on the Banggai cardinalfish, and, according to Gayatri, the meeting was well attended, including Banggai collectors and officials from the district government of the Banggai Islands, the Banggai cardinalfish committee, staff from the department of Fisheries and Marine Affairs (Jakarta), and several NGOs. </p>
<p>According to Gayatri, it became apparent, based on the data presented, that a more efficient chain of custody between the collector and the exporters’ facilities needs to be established. From LINI's report: </p>
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<p>The local traders from Bone Baru, who also own two boats, are currently the main buyers of BCF. The boats brought the BCF to Tumbak, and the fish were sold to the Tumbak traders who then shipped them to Jakarta, Bali, Surabaya, and also to Singapore. The price paid to the collectors for each BCF is currently Rp. 350 (US$0.03), and the first buyers (middlemen) will sell them in Tumbak for Rp. 1,250 (US$0.11) each fish. A boat owner claimed that mortality is high during the holding of the fish in Tumbak while waiting for the local buyers in Tumbak purchase their fish. Sometimes the sellers had to wait for one week in Tumbak until the fish are sold. In order to cover the fuel costs, each trip they needed to take to take an average of 7000 fish each time. </p></blockquote>
<p dir="ltr">This report, of course, is based on the notion that the trade is wild caught Banggai cardinalfish should continue, which runs counter to much of the sentiment expressed in the current hobby literature here in the States. In his article in the January 2009 issue of <em><a href="http://www.tfhmagazine.com/">Tropical Fish Hobbyist</a></em> ("Cardinal Sin"), Kieron Dodds writes: "I, myself, will forego purchase [of Banggai cardinalfish] altogether, feeling the most responsible thing is to just say 'no.'"</p>
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<p dir="ltr">It boils down to this: Is the possibility of being directly responsible for the extinction of a species, and the complete ban on all imports that might follow, worth having that one species in your tank right now? I would put forth that the most responsible thing to do at the moment would be to not purchase Banggai cardinalfish at all unless you dealer can verify that it is a captive-bred individual. </p></blockquote>
<p dir="ltr">Stay tuned...</p></div>
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        <title>Make Your New Year Green for the Marine Environments We Cherish</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-60136784</id>
        <published>2008-12-17T09:53:57-08:00</published>
        <updated>2008-12-17T09:53:57-08:00</updated>
        <summary>With 2008 winding down, you may be thinking about those New Year’s Resolutions for 2009, and, toward that end, I want to share something that Carrie Chen, San Francisco’s Aquarium of the Bay’s Education and Conservation Director, recently shared with...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">With 2008 winding down, you may be thinking about those New Year’s Resolutions for 2009, and, toward that end, I want to share something that Carrie Chen, <a href="http://www.aquariumofthebay.com/">San Francisco’s Aquarium of the Bay</a>’s Education and Conservation Director, recently shared with me. The following suggestions are several ways to “green” your New Year’s Resolutions, while taking care of the ecosystems we appreciate most as marine aquarists.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">Keep the Bay Clean! Whether it’s the San Francisco Bay or the Chesapeake Bay, these bodies of water are critical to healthy marine environments. In 2009, resolve yourself to only wash your car at a self-service or professional car wash, where the water will flow to wastewater treatment plants instead of into waterways. If you must wash your car in your driveway, be sure to use only non-toxic cleaners. Remember that no matter where you live, runoff eventually makes its way to the oceans.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">Keep the Oceans Sustainable! “If a restaurant served tiger, you’d ask some questions, right?” asks Carrie. For the sake of all marine environments, the same should hold true when purchasing seafood. Get a “seafood watch card” at your local public aquarium (or <a href="http://www.aquariumofthebay.com/conservation.aspx?q=10002&amp;c=1 ">visit</a> the Aquarium of the Bay’s site to get one online). </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">Volunteer! Whether it’s <a href="http://www.coastal.ca.gov/publiced/ccd/ccd.html">California Coastal Clean-Up Day</a> (which Aquarium of the Bay supports) or another local event, get involved in 2009. Even if not officially part of a clean-up day, Carrie suggests you adopt a “don’t pass it up, pick it up” mantra every day. If everyone picked up a little trash, think of the difference it would make. If not picked up, it all eventually flows downhill into the oceans.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">Explore! “Who says that New Year’s resolutions can’t be fun?” asks Carrie. If you live near the coast, she suggests, get out and explore the coastline. Whether on foot or in a kayak, get to know your local watershed, even if you don’t live near the coast. “Commit to connecting with nature in 2009,” says Carrie. After all, it’s both fun and good for the environment. </p></li>
</li></li></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">Also, get out and explore your local public aquarium. In fact, if you have a houseful of guests for the holidays, consider taking everyone to the aquarium for the day. If you are a member of your local aquarium (and, as a marine aquarist, you really should be!), contact the aquarium to see what holiday events are on. For example, I will be taking my out-of-town family to “<a href="http://www.aquariumofpacific.org/newsevents/eventsdetail/holiday_late_nights/">members’ night</a>” at the <a href="http://www.aquariumofpacific.org/">Aquarium of the Pacific</a> on 26 December…but I digress.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">In short, join me and hundreds of other marine aquarists in resolving to make 2009 a great year for the oceans.</p></div>
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        <title>Marine Aquarists and a New Marine Monument off the Northern Marianas</title>
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        <published>2008-12-09T10:16:31-08:00</published>
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        <summary>Remember when President Bush declared a massive undersea area near Hawaii as a protected marine monument? That action was startling to many environmentalists who believed the President’s record on environmental issues was significantly less than stellar. But it happened, and...</summary>
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&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;Remember when President Bush declared a massive undersea area near Hawaii as a protected marine monument? That action was startling to many environmentalists who believed the President’s record on environmental issues was significantly less than stellar. But it happened, and now it may happen again.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;Maybe.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A Proposed New Marine Monument off the Northern Marianas&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;A new marine monument in U.S. territorial waters off the Northern Marianas is currently under consideration, but too many chefs may be spoiling the soup, and the end result may be the failure to preserve and protect the full scope of the originally proposed monument.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;If the land we know today as Yellowstone National Park is still understood to be the crown jewel that William Henry Jackson and Ferdinand Vandiveer Hayden convinced Washington to preserve as a National Park, than the area north of Guam is certainly its underwater counterpart. This is, after all, home to the Mariana Trench—the ocean’s deepest canyon. The undersea ecosystems here are unique and largely untouched. They provide an opportunity to observe sea life in its true natural state. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;President Bush’s Environmental Legacy in Jeopardy?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;Preserving this area for future generations, not to mention for its intrinsic value, would certainly seal the deal in terms of establishing Mr. Bush’s environmental legacy. In fact, it would, at least on paper, make him the United States President who has officially done the most for marine ecosystems.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;Democracy in all its glory is at work, however, and the White House, intent on giving all constituencies their moment to speak, is, according to sources close to the issue, reconsidering the extent of the originally proposed marine monument. For one, local officials are against the marine monument as it is viewed as yet another federal incursion (the Feds recently upped the ante on immigration policy and the minimum wage in the Islands). &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;Other opponents include recreational fishing groups such as the American Sportfishing Association, the military and those with an eye to the areas potential for energy development and even mining. These groups worry that a marine monument such as the one initially under consideration at the White House would preclude activities and endeavors which ought not to be precluded in an area that, after all, belongs to the taxpayers.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;James Connaughton, who is taking the lead on the proposed marine monument at the White House, &lt;A href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97967207" target=_blank&gt;recently told NPR&lt;/A&gt;, “What we're trying to do is sort out where there are, in fact, some conflicting uses and sort out where those concerns don't actually exist.”&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;The reality is that the more voices that are heard, the less likely we are to see this proposed marine monument come to fruition.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Marine Aquarists and Marine Monuments; What&amp;nbsp;Do We Want?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;As a marine aquarist, I would like to see this area preserved. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;Of course it’s easy for me to say that because, at present, this area is relatively unimportant in terms of supplying the marine aquarium industry with marine animals and organisms that cannot be collected elsewhere; it’s not like shutting down Tonga for live rock or the Revillagigedo Islands for clarion angelfishes. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;But the reality is that there is currently no recreational fishing industry there. There are no military installations, no planned energy development and no mines. Yet these groups are opposing the marine monument because of either 1) what they may want to do there one day or 2) on principle. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;When it comes to preserving the potential to fish recreationally, test a military invention, develop an energy source, or establish a mine in the area, I just don’t see the argument. With as much of the world’s oceans as we have already impacted through a variety of anthropogenic stressors, I cannot see how we should not leap at the opportunity to put a relatively small slice of pristine ocean off limits. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A Matter of Principle&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;Regarding the principle, this is a little more challenging for me. The area belongs to the government and, in turn, to every United States citizen, so shouldn’t every citizen have the right to make their case for how they want to use it? In theory, I agree, but I also believe there are times when the intrinsic value of a place should trump individual rights. It’s the same reason I adhere to a bevy of regulations that limit what I may do in National Forests where I both work and recreate frequently.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"&gt;In short, as a marine aquarist, I want to see portions of the ocean preserved in as pristine a state as possible for future generations. Why? Because, as a matter of principle, I want the generations to come to not have to go to an aquarium or a natural history museum to be able to experience the majesty and wonder of the Seas.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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        <title>Banggai Cardinal Update from Dr. Alejandro A. Vagelli </title>
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        <published>2008-11-21T12:42:37-08:00</published>
        <updated>2008-11-21T12:42:37-08:00</updated>
        <summary>For a variety of reasons, the Banggai Cardinalfish issue has grabbed the attention of people from all aspects of the marine aquarium industry. As I have stated before, it is certainly not the most serious issue which faces this industry,...</summary>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">For a variety of reasons, the Banggai Cardinalfish issue has grabbed the attention of people from all aspects of the marine aquarium industry. As I have stated before, it is certainly not the most serious issue which faces this industry, but it is one that has received the air time. I have attempted to report on this issue over the past few months in an unbiased fashionn, presenting any and all sides of this complicated issue. </font></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Today I want to share with you (in full--sorry it's long) the thoughts of <span class="EC_318385219-21112008">Alejandro</span></font><font face="Arial"><span class="EC_318385219-21112008" /><span class="EC_318385219-21112008"> Vagelli</span></font><font size="2">, </font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Director of Science &amp; Conservation</font></span> at the <span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">New Jersey Academy for Aquatic Sciences</font></span> and <span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Adjunct Professor in the b</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">iology department at Rutgers University in New Jersey. <span class="EC_318385219-21112008">Alejandro</span></font><font face="Arial"><span class="EC_318385219-21112008" /><span class="EC_318385219-21112008"> e-mailed me today with the following information, and I requested his permission to share it with you. </span></font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Much of this information has been shared previously in other forums, but, at the risk of redundancy, it seems appropriate to add it in full here as well. As always, I welcome any comments.</font></span></p>
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<p><span lang="en-us"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">The link (below) will take you to the Live Reef Fish Bulletin, where three articles dealing with the conservation of Banggai cardinalfish were published and can be freely accessed. </span></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">I was invited to write a paper about my experience with the proposal to include the Banggai cardinalfish in CITES and its conservation status. In my paper I summarize the biological characteristics of the BC and point out their value from a biological and ecological stand point. I describe the current conservation situation of the species based on data from my last fieldwork in the Banggai Archipelago, including collecting pressure, population situation, and habitat degradation. Then, I relate in some detail what happened with the proposal, from my original recommendation until its defeat at The Hague, exposing the truth about several issues that have been intentionally misrepresented by both government officials and economic interest groups.</span></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">With regards to the other two articles dealing with Banggai conservation, I think both are particularly revealing about the truth behind the Indonesian claims of conservation actions directed to the Banggai cardinalfish before the CITES meeting (June 2007). </span></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">Also, they show, unfortunately, the official disregard about their compromise about setting a responsible management plan, as promised during the CITES meeting</span><font face="Arial" size="2" /> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">(Lilley was recently contracted by the local government to help to develop a management plan on Banggai cardinalfish</span><font face="Arial" size="2">, but to me, his paper is clear</font> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">evidence</span> <font face="Arial" size="2">of</font> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">his lack of qualification for this work</span><font face="Arial" size="2"> )</font><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">. I</span> <font face="Arial" size="2">can tell you that</font> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">there is no much behind the typical big –fancy names such as “ “Banggai Marine Conservation Area Management”!</span><font face="Arial" size="2"> , but t</font><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">hey need to show something at the next meeting!</span> <font face="Arial" size="2" /> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">So they are creating now this NGO (LINI) with staff from MAC ( Mr. Lilley ‘s wife is the MAC director –or similar- in Indonesia) and will be spending resources in finding out where the BC populations are</span><font face="Arial" size="2"> ,</font> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">and how they live….. !</span></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">Link: </span></span><a href="http://www.spc.int/coastfish/news/LRF/18/index.htm" onclick="onClickUnsafeLink(event);" target="_blank"><span lang="en-us"><span style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline"><font color="#0000ff" face="Times New Roman">http://www.spc.int/coastfish/news/LRF/18/index.htm</font></span></span></a><span lang="en-us" /> </p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman" /></span><br /><span lang="en-us"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">I will leave to you the judgment of these contrasted versions of the Banggai cardinalfish reality.  However, I want to correct (in bold) a few claims about biological aspects of BC that were published in one Mr. Lilley‘s paper: </span></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><strong><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">Page 3 (intro)...</span></strong><em><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">because of concerns from some quarters that over-collection might lead to its extinction in the wild. Several BCF population studies point to this possibility (Kolm and Berglund 2003; Vagelli and Erdmann 2002; author’s observations) but accurate current wild population estimates are still unavailable” </span></em></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><strong><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">Current wild populations are available and were judged accurate enough to be used by IUCN to included this species in the red list as endangered. </span></strong></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><strong><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">Page 5</span></strong><em> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">According to the collectors, BCF populations occur around many of the 123 islands in the Banggai Archipelago, but there was general agreement  among collectors interviewed that these populations may be suffering from overexploitation. </span></em> </span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><strong><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">The Banggai Archipelago comprises less than half of their imaginary 123 islands. There are about 60 islands with a size of about 1 km or larger. In fact the Banggai cardinalfish occurs in only 32 islands within the entire Archipelago.</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><strong><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">Page 6</span></strong><em><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">: BCF live in groups in and among coral heads, anemones, seagrass, jellyfish, and sea urchins (Fig. 4). If the reef is badly degraded or there are high levels of nitrates in the water (i.e. near dwellings, piers and raw sewage outlets), algal growth is encouraged, which in turn promotes the proliferation of black long-spined sea urchins, Diadema setosum. In areas where the coral cover has been destroyed and the reef flat is covered in algae, numerous groups of Diadema sea urchins become the main refuges for BCF</span></em></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><strong><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">BC living with jellyfish?? (more below) High levels of nitrates? Where? Inside the Banggai harbor? Algae growth caused by nitrates, therefore leading to urchins? This may be part of a marine biology course, but is not the reality in Banggai. There is no connection between urchin use by BC and coral cover being destroyed. Urchins (together with anemones and branching corals) are substrates with which BC is naturally associated. In areas where coral cover is destroyed by dynamite, BC is absent.</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman" /></span><br /><span lang="en-us"><em><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">The fish were also observed swimming very close to the walls of piers. In other words, it seems likely that, once the reef has been degraded and there are no more corals or seagrass in which BCF can hide, they will “make do” with hiding in the sea urchins, which proliferate when the area becomes covered in algae.</span></em></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><strong><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">The few piers constructed in the Banggai region do not represent the natural oceanographic environment of the Banggai islands, where over 96% of the BC population is found. Evidently the author is not familiar with published work on the ecology of the species. BC rarely is found in any low cover- rubble -open area. The overwhelming majority of BC inhabit both coral reefs and seagrass beds, which are not being diminished. In fact, the largest group ever localized was found within seagrass beds associated with anemones. After that one, the largest groups were found in both seagrass and coral reef areas associated with urchins.</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman" /></span><br /><span lang="en-us"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman" /><em> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">Although not observed firsthand, the team was told that BCF could occur in significant numbers in association with a certain (unidentified) species of jellyfish. Because BCF have a very low capacity  for dispersal, as they do not have a pelagic larval stage, it might be that the jellyfish provide a means of dispersal for BCF by passive drifting on ocean currents. It is important to understand this and other dispersal mechanisms for species management  purposes. DNA studies (Hoffman et al. 2005) indicate significant genetic differences within BCF sub-populations, which need to be preserved for the continued well-being of the species.</span></em></span></p><br />
<p><span lang="en-us"><strong><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">Let’s assume that BC can disperse pelagically associated with the tentacles of large jellyfish!! able to drift about 30 cm off the bottom without becoming tangled in urchin spines, coral branches, seagrass leaves, etc., and that BC somehow can move away from the reef protected by the jellies (that coincidentally happen to drift where the BC are located and eager to move with them), and assume that they are able to drift with "ocean currents."  Now, how can this amazing statement be reconciled with the very next one: that DNA studies by Hoffman et al found such large genetic differences among populations (which is only possible if the populations remain isolated without gene exchange for very long periods of time)??, and how do we reconcile that assumption (which the author found credible enough to mention) with the fact that this species does not occur naturally outside the Banggai Archipelago? Can this occur because the aforementioned ocean currents taking the jellyfish loaded with BC only exist between a few very closely localized islands?</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"><strong><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">The facts are: a) large (easily seen by the naked eye) jellyfish are conspicuously absent in the Banggais (and it is hard to imagine jellies easily drifting in the shallow areas inhabited by BC).   b.) BC do not associate with planktonic jellyfish, nor with any pelagic organism. BC is a sedentary species that remains attached to benthic living substrates. They display highly developed homing behavior and never remain higher than about 1m in the water column above substrates,  but more commonly less than half of that height. </span></strong></span></p></blockquote></div>
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