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    <subtitle>[Pliny the Elder] used to say that  no book was so bad but some good might be got out of it.  Pliny the Younger</subtitle>
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        <title>alex munthe on capri (in re tiberius)</title>
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        <published>2009-07-10T23:58:47-04:00</published>
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        <summary type="html">… take a look at the photo below, one can imagine Tiberius there. Robert of Matters Arising blogs: Axel Munthe's The Story of San Michele is briefly mentioned in the introduction to Allan Massie's "Tiberius: The Memoirs of the Emperor", the Roman History Reading Group's current read. Munthe was a Swedish doctor who built a villa on Capri, on what was allegedly the site of one of Tiberius's villas, in the last years of the 19th century and the early years of the 20th century. read on Villa San Michele Courtesy Wikimedia Commons</summary>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt; … take a look at the photo below, one can imagine Tiberius there.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;Robert of &lt;a href="http://matters-arising.blogspot.com/"&gt;Matters Arising&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://matters-arising.blogspot.com/2009/07/alex-munthe-on-capri.html"&gt;blogs&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p style="padding: 10px; background-color: #e6e6e6; font-family: Georgia; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px; text-align: justify;"&gt;Axel Munthe's &lt;a href="http://www.librarything.com/work/15254"&gt;The Story of San Michele&lt;/a&gt; is briefly mentioned in the introduction to Allan Massie's "Tiberius: The Memoirs of the Emperor", &lt;a href="http://romanhistorybooksandmore.freeservers.com/booklist2.htm"&gt;the Roman History Reading Group's current read&lt;/a&gt;. &#xD;
Munthe was a Swedish doctor who built a villa on Capri, on what was&#xD;
allegedly the site of one of Tiberius's villas, in the last years of&#xD;
the 19th century and the early years of the 20th century. &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://matters-arising.blogspot.com/2009/07/alex-munthe-on-capri.html"&gt;read on&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.villasanmichele.eu/en/welcome" title="website"&gt;Villa San Michele&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011570fe6e71970c-pi" style="display: inline;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Overlooking Capri harbour from the rotunda at the Villa San Michele" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c504553ef011570fe6e71970c " src="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011570fe6e71970c-800wi" title="Overlooking Capri harbour from the rotunda at the Villa San Michele"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;em&gt;Courtesy &lt;a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Overlooking_Capri_harbour_from_the_rotunda_in_Villa_San_Michele.jpg"&gt;Wikimedia Commons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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        <title>on reading barbara levick's 'tiberius the politician'</title>
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        <published>2009-07-07T15:29:22-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-07T22:26:48-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">I've started reading Barbara Levick's Tiberius the Politician (1976, revised edition 1999). First thing I came across was the supplemental bibliography of 1999, and what does she list? Massie's Tiberius novel! I do like the prosopographical excursion into the fates and political/military appointments and positions of adherents of Tiberius on the one side and Julia/Scribonia on the other (Chapter IV: "Rehabilitation: The Final Struggle for the Succession, page 51 ff"), but I'm baffled when the author gets to the Silani: … Servilia, mother by D. Iunius Brutus of M. Iunius Brutus the Liberator married for a second time D. Silanus, consul, in 62 BC, and became the mother of daughters. One, Iunia Tertulla, was the wife of Cassius the Liberator (as well as being Cato's granddaughter) and survived until AD 22, causing comment by her will: she omitted to mention the Princeps. Niece surely, not granddaughter? Levick adds a "warning against reckless prosopographical speculation," listing several cross-overs from within the groups. Overall it seems to show that Tiberius quickly consolidated his support after his return from Rhodes, and even evidences some of it during his exile. It's also interesting to see how many descendants of the old families were still...</summary>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011571b98c37970b-pi" style="margin: 3px 0px 5px 5px; float: right;"&gt;&lt;img alt="in association with amazon.com" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c504553ef011571b98c37970b " src="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011571b98c37970b-800wi" title="in association with amazon.com"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I've started reading Barbara Levick's &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415217539?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=stamfordhistoric&amp;amp;link_code=as3&amp;amp;camp=211189&amp;amp;creative=373489&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0415217539"&gt;Tiberius the Politician&lt;/a&gt; (1976, revised edition 1999).&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;First thing I came across was the supplemental bibliography of 1999, and what does she list? Massie's Tiberius novel!&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;I do like the prosopographical excursion into the fates and political/military appointments and positions of adherents of Tiberius on the one side and Julia/Scribonia on the other (Chapter IV: "Rehabilitation: The Final Struggle for the Succession, page 51&lt;em&gt; ff&lt;/em&gt;"), but I'm baffled when the author gets to the Silani:&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p style="padding: 10px; background-color: #e6e6e6; font-family: Georgia; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px; text-align: justify;"&gt;… Servilia, mother by D. Iunius Brutus of M. Iunius Brutus the Liberator married for a second time D. Silanus, consul, in 62 BC, and became the mother of daughters.  One, Iunia Tertulla, was the wife of Cassius the Liberator (as well as being Cato's granddaughter) and survived until AD 22, causing comment by her will:  she omitted to mention the Princeps.&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;Niece surely, not granddaughter?&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;Levick adds a "warning against reckless prosopographical speculation," listing several cross-overs from within the groups.  Overall it seems to show that Tiberius quickly consolidated his support after his return from Rhodes, and even evidences some of it during his exile.  It's also interesting to see how many descendants of the old families were still around, contrary to what often is maintained about their disappearance during the various civil wars of the second half of the first century BC.  Prosopography can be fascinating:  Let's hear it for Ronald Syme!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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        <title>DonorsChoose.org summer updates</title>
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        <published>2009-07-07T14:18:41-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-07T14:19:37-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">DonorsChoose.org is a worthy project. Celebrate Summer Learning Literature &amp; Writing</summary>
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            <name>IHahn</name>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.donorschoose.org/"&gt;DonorsChoose.org&lt;/a&gt; is a worthy project.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.donorschoose.org/homepage/main.html?zone=101"&gt;Celebrate Summer Learning&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.donorschoose.org/donors/search.html?schoolType=5&amp;amp;subject6=3"&gt;Literature &amp;amp; Writing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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        <title>another fictional take on sejanus</title>
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        <published>2009-07-06T22:37:00-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-06T22:37:50-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">David Wishart, in his Marcus Valerius Corvinus mystery series, takes a close look at the villain: Sejanus. It's a well researched novel and an excellent read. Unfortunately, the book is seriously out of print.</summary>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0340825324?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=stamfordhistoric&amp;amp;link_code=as3&amp;amp;camp=211189&amp;amp;creative=373489&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0340825324" style="margin: 3px 0px 5px 5px; float: right;"&gt;&lt;img alt="in association with amazon.com" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c504553ef011571cfa642970b " src="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011571cfa642970b-800wi" style="margin: 0px 0px 5px 5px;" title="in association with amazon.com"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;em&gt;David Wishart&lt;/em&gt;, in his &lt;em&gt;Marcus Valerius Corvinus mystery series&lt;/em&gt;, takes a close look at the villain: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0340825324?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=stamfordhistoric&amp;amp;link_code=as3&amp;amp;camp=211189&amp;amp;creative=373489&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0340825324"&gt;Sejanus&lt;/a&gt;.  It's a well researched novel and an excellent read.&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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        <title>tacitus on germanicus</title>
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        <published>2009-07-06T22:02:46-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-06T22:09:11-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">I find it rather irritating that Tacitus, in his Annals, often refers to Germanicus as "Caesar," and with not much consistency. Update And Tiberius as well, as I see now: 63. Maroboduus, now utterly deserted, had no resource but in the mercy of Caesar. Having crossed the Danube where it flows by the province of Noricum, he wrote to Tiberius, not like a fugitive or a suppliant, but as one who remembered his past greatness. When as a most famous king in former days he received invitations from many nations, he had still, he said, preferred the friendship of Rome. Caesar replied that he should have a safe and honourable home in Italy, if he would remain there, or, if his interests required something different, he might leave it under the same protection under which he had come.</summary>
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            <name>IHahn</name>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I find it rather irritating that Tacitus, in his &lt;a href="http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/tac/index.htm#section_000"&gt;Annals&lt;/a&gt;, often refers to Germanicus as "Caesar," and with not much consistency.&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Update&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;And Tiberius as well, as I see now:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="padding: 10px; background-color: #d2d1e1; font-family: Georgia; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/tac/a02060.htm"&gt;63.&lt;/a&gt; Maroboduus, now utterly deserted, had no resource but in the mercy&#xD;
of Caesar. Having crossed the Danube where it flows by the province of&#xD;
Noricum, he wrote to Tiberius, not like a fugitive or a suppliant, but&#xD;
as one who remembered his past greatness. When as a most famous king in&#xD;
former days he received invitations from many nations, he had still, he&#xD;
said, preferred the friendship of Rome. Caesar replied that he should&#xD;
have a safe and honourable home in Italy, if he would remain there, or,&#xD;
if his interests required something different, he might leave it under&#xD;
the same protection under which he had come.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=4TX82NMj9eA:fwuiglB5iyE:yIl2AUoC8zA"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=yIl2AUoC8zA" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=4TX82NMj9eA:fwuiglB5iyE:7Q72WNTAKBA"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=7Q72WNTAKBA" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=4TX82NMj9eA:fwuiglB5iyE:dnMXMwOfBR0"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=dnMXMwOfBR0" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=4TX82NMj9eA:fwuiglB5iyE:qj6IDK7rITs"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=qj6IDK7rITs" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>update on tiberius biographies: g.p. baker online</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/2009/07/update-on-tiberius-biographies-gp-baker-online.html" />
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341c504553ef011570d19e40970c</id>
        <published>2009-07-06T00:10:00-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-05T23:18:54-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">An update to modern biographies of tiberius: Robert found the G.P. Baker one on the Internet Archive Tiberius Caesar Enjoy!</summary>
        <author>
            <name>IHahn</name>
        </author>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.archive.org/details/tiberiuscaesar000256mbp" style="float: right;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Tiberius Caesar by G.P.Baker" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c504553ef011571c68ab5970b " src="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011571c68ab5970b-800wi" style="margin: 0px 0px 5px 5px;" title="Tiberius Caesar by G.P.Baker"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; An update to &lt;a href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/2009/07/modern-biographies-of-tiberius.html"&gt;modern biographies of tiberius&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Robert found the G.P. Baker one on the &lt;a href="http://www.archive.org/details/texts"&gt;Internet Archive&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.archive.org/details/tiberiuscaesar000256mbp" title="Tiberius biography by G.P. Baker online"&gt;Tiberius Caesar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=dWqcMcLGlCc:m_WTmTzALi4:yIl2AUoC8zA"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=yIl2AUoC8zA" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=dWqcMcLGlCc:m_WTmTzALi4:7Q72WNTAKBA"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=7Q72WNTAKBA" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=dWqcMcLGlCc:m_WTmTzALi4:dnMXMwOfBR0"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=dnMXMwOfBR0" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=dWqcMcLGlCc:m_WTmTzALi4:qj6IDK7rITs"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=qj6IDK7rITs" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>another horace biography</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/2009/07/another-horace-biography-william-tuckwell-1905.html" />
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341c504553ef011570ce4430970c</id>
        <published>2009-07-05T18:42:14-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-05T18:42:15-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">Earlier on, I bemoaned the fact that there are so few Horace biographies around. Well, N.S. Gill found one: The next Roman history book chat will discuss Horace. On Irene Hahn's blog, she mentions there is a shortage of biographical information on Horace. The Internet Archive provides a wealth of out-of-copyright material, including an old-fashioned biography of Horace: Horace by Wm. Tuckwell (1829-1919). London: G. Bell &amp; sons. 1905. There are others to search for, but this first one I looked at seems to have the info. read on Author: Tuckwell, William, 1829-1919 Subject: Horace Publisher: London : G. Bell &amp; sons It's a concise (87 pages) introduction to Horace, nicely illustrated too. And with a chapter on wine … The Internet Archive (subscription is free)</summary>
        <author>
            <name>IHahn</name>
        </author>
        <category scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" term="Ancient Poetry" />
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/2009/06/reading-about-horace-jacques-perret.html"&gt;Earlier on&lt;/a&gt;, I bemoaned the fact that there are so few Horace biographies around.  Well, &lt;a href="http://ancthist-nsgill.blogspot.com/2009/06/horace.html"&gt;N.S. Gill&lt;/a&gt; found one:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="padding: 10px; background-color: #fdeee0; font-family: Georgia; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px; text-align: justify;"&gt;The next Roman history book chat will discuss Horace. On Irene Hahn's &lt;a href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/2009/06/reading-about-horace-jacques-perret.html"&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;,&#xD;
she mentions there is a shortage of biographical information on Horace.&#xD;
The Internet Archive provides a wealth of out-of-copyright material,&#xD;
including an old-fashioned &lt;a href="http://www.archive.org/details/horacetuckwell00tuck"&gt;biography of Horace&lt;/a&gt;: Horace&#xD;
by Wm. Tuckwell (1829-1919). London: G. Bell &amp;amp; sons. 1905. There are&#xD;
others to search for, but this first one I looked at seems to have the&#xD;
info.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://ancthist-nsgill.blogspot.com/2009/06/horace.html"&gt;read on&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
Author: Tuckwell, William, 1829-1919&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: &lt;a href="http://www.archive.org/details/horacetuckwell00tuck" title="1905 Horace biography"&gt;Horace&#xD;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Publisher: London : G. Bell &amp;amp; sons&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;It's  a concise (87 pages) introduction to Horace, nicely illustrated too.  And with a chapter on wine …&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.archive.org/details/texts" title="Internet Archive, free subcription"&gt;The Internet Archive&lt;/a&gt; (subscription is free)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=VWaQSWpLalU:IZ0MAhYxZS0:yIl2AUoC8zA"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=yIl2AUoC8zA" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=VWaQSWpLalU:IZ0MAhYxZS0:7Q72WNTAKBA"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=7Q72WNTAKBA" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=VWaQSWpLalU:IZ0MAhYxZS0:dnMXMwOfBR0"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=dnMXMwOfBR0" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=VWaQSWpLalU:IZ0MAhYxZS0:qj6IDK7rITs"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=qj6IDK7rITs" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>modern biographies of tiberius</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/2009/07/modern-biographies-of-tiberius.html" />
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341c504553ef011570c470e4970c</id>
        <published>2009-07-05T00:05:00-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-05T00:18:50-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">As we are reading Allan Massie's novel, Tiberius: The Memoirs of the Emperor, it might be worthwhile to look at modern biographies of Tiberius. These I have in my library: G.P. Baker: Tiberius Caesar, Emperor of Rome (1929) Robin Seager: Tiberius (1972, revised edition 2005) Barbara Levick: Tiberius the Politician (1976, revised edition 1999) More on these later, I'm reading the Baker right now … comments are invited. And Google Books has this oddity: The history of that inimitable monarch Tiberius by John Rendle (1813) WHO, IN THE XIV YEAR OF HIS REIGN, REQUESTED THE SENATE TO PERMIT THE WORSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST AND WHO, IN THE XVI AND THREE FOLLOWING YEARS, Or, BEFORE THE CONVERSION OF CORNELIUS BY PETER, SUPPRESSED ALL OPPOSITION TO IT. The Rev. JOHN RENDLE, M. A.</summary>
        <author>
            <name>IHahn</name>
        </author>
        
        
<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786700076?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=stamfordhistoric&amp;amp;link_code=as3&amp;amp;camp=211189&amp;amp;creative=373489&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0786700076" style="margin: 3px 0px 5px 5px; float: right;"&gt;&lt;img alt="in association with amazon.com" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c504553ef0115712f8b7d970b " src="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef0115712f8b7d970b-800wi" title="in association with amazon.com"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;As we are reading Allan Massie's novel, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786700076?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=stamfordhistoric&amp;amp;link_code=as3&amp;amp;camp=211189&amp;amp;creative=373489&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0786700076"&gt;Tiberius: The Memoirs of the Emperor&lt;/a&gt;, it might be worthwhile to look at modern biographies of Tiberius.&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;These I have in my library:&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;G.P. Baker:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0815411138?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=stamfordhistoric&amp;amp;link_code=as3&amp;amp;camp=211189&amp;amp;creative=373489&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0815411138"&gt;Tiberius Caesar, Emperor of Rome&lt;/a&gt; (1929)&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Robin Seager:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1405115297?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=stamfordhistoric&amp;amp;link_code=as3&amp;amp;camp=211189&amp;amp;creative=373489&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1405115297"&gt;Tiberius&lt;/a&gt; (1972, revised edition 2005)&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Barbara Levick:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415217539?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=stamfordhistoric&amp;amp;link_code=as3&amp;amp;camp=211189&amp;amp;creative=373489&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0415217539"&gt;Tiberius the Politician&lt;/a&gt; (1976, revised edition 1999)&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011571b98ae6970b-pi" style="display: inline;"&gt;&lt;img alt="in association with amazon.com" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c504553ef011571b98ae6970b " src="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011571b98ae6970b-800wi" title="in association with amazon.com"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;   &lt;a href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011570c47a7e970c-pi" style="display: inline;"&gt;&lt;img alt="in association with amazon.com" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c504553ef011570c47a7e970c " src="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011570c47a7e970c-800wi" title="in association with amazon.com"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;   &lt;a href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011571b98c37970b-pi" style="display: inline;"&gt;&lt;img alt="in association with amazon.com" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c504553ef011571b98c37970b " src="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011571b98c37970b-800wi" title="in association with amazon.com"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;More on these later, I'm reading the Baker right now … comments are invited.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;And &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books"&gt;Google Books&lt;/a&gt; has this oddity:&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=5TYOAAAAQAAJ&amp;amp;dq=tiberius&amp;amp;source=gbs_navlinks_s"&gt;The history of that inimitable monarch Tiberius&lt;/a&gt; by John Rendle (1813) &lt;br&gt;WHO, IN THE XIV YEAR OF HIS REIGN,&lt;br&gt;REQUESTED THE SENATE TO PERMIT THE WORSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST&lt;br&gt;AND WHO, IN THE XVI AND THREE FOLLOWING YEARS, &lt;br&gt;Or, &lt;br&gt;BEFORE THE CONVERSION OF CORNELIUS BY PETER, &lt;br&gt;SUPPRESSED ALL OPPOSITION TO IT. &lt;br&gt;&#xD;
The Rev. JOHN RENDLE, M. A.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=7aMQax8Aa_k:nKONGVJuisE:yIl2AUoC8zA"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=yIl2AUoC8zA" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=7aMQax8Aa_k:nKONGVJuisE:7Q72WNTAKBA"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=7Q72WNTAKBA" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=7aMQax8Aa_k:nKONGVJuisE:dnMXMwOfBR0"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=dnMXMwOfBR0" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=7aMQax8Aa_k:nKONGVJuisE:qj6IDK7rITs"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=qj6IDK7rITs" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>the view from my window</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341c504553ef011571b97124970b</id>
        <published>2009-07-04T17:41:09-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-04T17:43:19-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">… or my terrace rather. July 3rd, around 7:45 PM, waiting for the sun to set for the fireworks. click to enlarge click to enlarge</summary>
        <author>
            <name>IHahn</name>
        </author>
        <category scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" term="The View From My Window" />
        
        
<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;… or my terrace rather.  July 3rd, around 7:45 PM, waiting for the sun to set for the fireworks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011571b96112970b-popup" onclick="window.open(this.href,'_blank','scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" style="display: inline;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Rainbow and moon" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c504553ef011571b96112970b " src="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011571b96112970b-350wi" style="width: 350px;" title="Rainbow and moon"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;em&gt;click to enlarge&lt;/em&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;p style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011570c45b32970c-popup" onclick="window.open(this.href,'_blank','scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" style="display: inline;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Rainbow and moon" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c504553ef011570c45b32970c " src="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011570c45b32970c-350wi" style="width: 350px;" title="Rainbow and moon"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;em&gt;click to enlarge&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=gkd_Y6-duLs:jgPOXR1wGqU:yIl2AUoC8zA"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=yIl2AUoC8zA" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=gkd_Y6-duLs:jgPOXR1wGqU:7Q72WNTAKBA"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=7Q72WNTAKBA" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=gkd_Y6-duLs:jgPOXR1wGqU:dnMXMwOfBR0"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=dnMXMwOfBR0" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?a=gkd_Y6-duLs:jgPOXR1wGqU:qj6IDK7rITs"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/RomanHistoryBooksAndMore?d=qj6IDK7rITs" border="0"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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    <entry>
        <title>seguing from horace into tiberius (our recent and upcoming book chats)</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/2009/07/seguing-from-horace-into-tiberius-our-recent-and-upcoming-book-chats.html" />
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341c504553ef011571ae5680970b</id>
        <published>2009-07-03T11:32:00-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-04T22:53:49-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">Horace wrote an Ode to Drusus and Tiberius (Update July 4: Oops, wrong Latin one) Odes, Book 4, XIV Quae cura patrum quaeue Quiritium plenis honorum muneribus tuas, Auguste, uirtutes in aeuum per titulos memoresque fastus aeternet, o qua sol habitabilis 5 inlustrat oras maxime principum? quem legis expertes Latinae Vindelici didicere nuper quid Marte posses. Milite nam tuo Drusus Genaunos, inplacidum genus, 10 Breunosque uelocis et arces Alpibus impositas tremendis deiecit acer plus uice simplici. Maior Neronum mox graue proelium commisit immanisque Raetos 15 auspiciis pepulit secundis, continue reading Odes, Book 4, XIV, in Latin What care the Citizens and the Senators shall take in immortalising your virtues, granting you full honours, Augustus, with titles and memorial plaques, O, greatest of princes, wherever the sun shines over the countries where people can live, you, whose power in war the Vindelici free of our Roman laws, till now, have learnt.For, with your army, brave Drusus, demolished the Genauni, that implacable race, in more direct retaliation, the swift Breuni, and their defences, established on the formidable Alpine heights: and soon Tiberius, the elder Nero, entered that fierce fight, with his favourable omens, defeating the wild Rhaetians: continue reading Odes, Book 4,...</summary>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Horace wrote an Ode to Drusus and Tiberius&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;(Update July 4:  Oops, wrong Latin one)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Odes, Book 4, XIV&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
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Quae cura patrum quaeue Quiritium&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
plenis honorum muneribus tuas,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
     Auguste, uirtutes in aeuum&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
     per titulos memoresque fastus&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
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 aeternet, o qua sol habitabilis               &lt;font size="2"&gt;5&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
inlustrat oras maxime principum?&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
     quem legis expertes Latinae&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
     Vindelici didicere nuper&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
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quid Marte posses. Milite nam tuo&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Drusus Genaunos, inplacidum genus,               &lt;font size="2"&gt;10&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
     Breunosque uelocis et arces&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
     Alpibus impositas tremendis&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
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deiecit acer plus uice simplici.&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Maior Neronum mox graue proelium&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
     commisit immanisque Raetos               &lt;font size="2"&gt;15&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
     auspiciis pepulit secundis,&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/horace/carm4.shtml"&gt;continue reading Odes, Book 4, XIV, in Latin &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;/blockquote&gt;What care the Citizens and the Senators&lt;br&gt;shall take in immortalising your virtues,&lt;br&gt;granting you full honours, Augustus,&lt;br&gt;with titles and memorial plaques, O,&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;greatest of princes, wherever the sun shines&lt;br&gt;over the countries where people can live, you,&lt;br&gt;whose power in war the Vindelici&lt;br&gt;free of our Roman laws, till now, have learnt.&lt;/p&gt;For, with your army, brave Drusus, demolished&lt;br&gt;the Genauni, that implacable race, in more&lt;br&gt;direct retaliation, the swift&lt;br&gt;Breuni, and their defences, established&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;on the formidable Alpine heights: &lt;br&gt;and soon Tiberius, the elder Nero, entered&lt;br&gt;that fierce fight, with his favourable&lt;br&gt;omens, defeating the wild Rhaetians:&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceOdesBkIV.htm#_Toc40764115"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;continue reading &lt;/font&gt;Odes, Book 4, XIV, in English translation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;Original text:  &lt;a href="http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/"&gt;Latin Library&lt;/a&gt;:  &lt;a href="http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/hor.html" title="Horace in Latin"&gt;Q. HORATIVS FLACCVS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
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Translation:  A.S. Kline, &lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/"&gt;Poetry in Tranlation&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Horacehome.htm" title="Horace translation"&gt;Horace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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        <title>ancient historians on tiberius (a.d. 14-37)</title>
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        <published>2009-07-03T11:07:58-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-03T11:07:58-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">DIR Tiberius says: The main ancient literary sources for the reign of Tiberius are: Tac. Ann. 1-6; Dio 57-59; Suetonius, Tiberius and Gaius; Josephus BJ 2.204-17 and AJ 18.181-87, 205-25; Velleius Paterculus, esp. 2.94-131. References to Tiberius are also found in Pliny the Elder, Philo, Seneca and others. Tacitus Annals, Books 1-6 http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/tac/index.htm or Wikisource: Book 1: 14-15 C.E. Book 2: 16-19 C.E. Book 3: 20-22 C.E. Book 4: 23-28 C.E. Book 5: 29-31 C.E. Book 6: 32-37 C.E. Dio Cassius Book 53: Octavian, to be known henceforth as Augustus, officially becomes the sole ruler of Rome: the beginning of the imperial period. Organization of provincial administration. The rôle of Augustus' friend Agrippa. Major construction projects in Rome: dedication of the Temple of Apollo on the Palatine, the Saepta, the Pantheon, the Basilica of Neptune, the Baths of Agrippa. Wars in NW Spain and Arabia. Galatia falls to the Romans. Book 54: Augustus continues to consolidate his power. Roman rule extends to Rhaetia, Noricum, the Maritime Alps, and the Chersonesus. Book 55: Death of Drusus. Dedication of the Precinct of Livia, the Campus Agrippae, the Diribitorium, the Temple of Mars. Tiberius retires to Rhodes. Lucius and Gaius Caesar, the natural...</summary>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tiberius_NyCarlsberg_Mirrored.png" onclick="window.open(this.href,'_blank','scrollbars=no,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" style="margin: 3px 0px 5px 5px; float: right;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Emperor TiberiusNero. Marble bust from the Ny Carlsberg Glyptotek, Copenhagen" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c504553ef011571ae46ff970b " src="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef011571ae46ff970b-800wi" style="margin: 0px 0px 5px 5px;" title="Emperor TiberiusNero. Marble bust from the Ny Carlsberg Glyptotek, Copenhagen"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.roman-emperors.org/tiberius.htm" title="An Online Encyclopedia of Roman Emperors"&gt;DIR Tiberius&lt;/a&gt; says: &lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p style="padding: 10px; background-color: #ddebe2; font-family: Georgia; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px; text-align: justify;"&gt;The main ancient literary sources for the reign of Tiberius are: Tac. Ann. 1-6; Dio 57-59; Suetonius, Tiberius and Gaius; Josephus BJ 2.204-17 and AJ 18.181-87, 205-25; Velleius Paterculus, esp. 2.94-131. References to Tiberius are also found in Pliny the Elder, Philo, Seneca and others.&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tacitus Annals, Books 1-6&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/tac/index.htm"&gt;http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/tac/index.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;or Wikisource:&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Annals_%28Tacitus%29/Book_1" title="The Annals (Tacitus)/Book 1"&gt;Book 1&lt;/a&gt;: 14-15 C.E.&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Annals_%28Tacitus%29/Book_2" title="The Annals (Tacitus)/Book 2"&gt;Book 2&lt;/a&gt;: 16-19 C.E.&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Annals_%28Tacitus%29/Book_3" title="The Annals (Tacitus)/Book 3"&gt;Book 3&lt;/a&gt;: 20-22 C.E.&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Annals_%28Tacitus%29/Book_4" title="The Annals (Tacitus)/Book 4"&gt;Book 4&lt;/a&gt;: 23-28 C.E. &lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Annals_%28Tacitus%29/Book_5" title="The Annals (Tacitus)/Book 5"&gt;Book 5&lt;/a&gt;: 29-31 C.E. &lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Annals_%28Tacitus%29/Book_6" title="The Annals (Tacitus)/Book 6"&gt;Book 6&lt;/a&gt;: 32-37 C.E. &lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/ul&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dio Cassius&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cassius_Dio/53*.html"&gt;Book 53&lt;/a&gt;:  Octavian, to be known henceforth as Augustus, officially becomes the sole ruler of Rome: the beginning of the imperial period. Organization of provincial administration. The rôle of Augustus' friend Agrippa. Major construction projects in Rome: dedication of the Temple of Apollo on the Palatine, the Saepta, the Pantheon, the Basilica of Neptune, the Baths of Agrippa. Wars in NW Spain and Arabia. Galatia falls to the Romans. &lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cassius_Dio/54*.html"&gt;Book 54&lt;/a&gt;:  Augustus continues to consolidate his power. Roman rule extends to Rhaetia, Noricum, the Maritime Alps, and the Chersonesus.&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cassius_Dio/55*.html"&gt;Book 55&lt;/a&gt;: &#xD;
Death of Drusus. Dedication of the Precinct of Livia, the Campus&#xD;
Agrippae, the Diribitorium, the Temple of Mars. Tiberius retires to&#xD;
Rhodes. Lucius and Gaius Caesar, the natural heirs of Augustus, both&#xD;
die young. Influence of Augustus' wife Livia. Institution of the corps&#xD;
of watchmen (vigiles).&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cassius_Dio/56*.html"&gt;Book 56&lt;/a&gt;: &#xD;
Augustus encourages population growth by rewarding those who have more&#xD;
children, and penalizing those who have fewer and those who do not&#xD;
marry. Three legions lost in Germany: the Disaster of Varus. Dedication&#xD;
of the Temple of Concord and the Portico of Livia. Death of Augustus;&#xD;
his funeral.&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cassius_Dio/57*.html"&gt;Book 57&lt;/a&gt;:  Tiberius becomes emperor. His character. Cappadocia becomes Roman. Deaths of Drusus and Germanicus Caesar.&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cassius_Dio/58*.html"&gt;Book 58&lt;/a&gt;:  Rise and fall of Sejanus. Tiberius consolidates his hold on power despite revolts and scandals in his family. &lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cassius_Dio/59*.html"&gt;Book 59&lt;/a&gt;:  Gaius Caesar becomes emperor; universally known as Caligula. His excesses.&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/ul&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Suetonius&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Suetonius/12Caesars/Tiberius*.html"&gt;De Vita Caesarum: Tiberius&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Suetonius/12Caesars/Caligula*.html"&gt;De Vita Caesarum: Caius Caligula&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Josephus&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Jews/Book_II#Book_II"&gt;Jewish War, Book 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Antiquities_of_the_Jews/Book_XVIII"&gt;Antiquities, Book 18&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/ul&gt;&#xD;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Velleius Paterculus, Roman History&lt;br&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Velleius_Paterculus/2D*.html"&gt;Book II, Chapters 94-131&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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        <title>be happy wherever you are (i'm on a roll tonight)</title>
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        <published>2009-07-02T23:22:06-04:00</published>
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        <summary type="html">Horace: Epistles, Book 1, XI Quid tibi uisa Chios, Bullati, notaque Lesbos, quid concinna Samos, quid Croesi regia Sardis, Zmyrna quid et Colophon? Maiora minoraue fama, cunctane prae Campo et Tiberino flumine sordent? An uenit in uotum Attalicis ex urbibus una? 5 An Lebedum laudas odio maris atque uiarum? Scis Lebedus quid sit: Gabiis desertior atque Fidenis uicus; tamen illic uiuere uellem, oblitusque meorum, obliuiscendus et illis, Neptunum procul e terra spectare furentem. 10 Sed neque qui Capua Romam petit, imbre lutoque aspersus uolet in caupona uiuere; nec qui frigus collegit, furnos et balnea laudat ut fortunatam plene praestantia uitam; nec si te ualidus iactauerit Auster in alto, 15 idcirco nauem trans Aegaeum mare uendas. Incolumi Rhodos et Mytilene pulchra facit quod paenula solstitio, campestre niualibus auris, per brumam Tiberis, Sextili mense caminus. Dum licet ac uoltum seruat Fortuna benignum, 20 Romae laudetur Samos et Chios et Rhodos absens. Tu quamcumque deus tibi fortunauerit horam grata sume manu neu dulcia differ in annum, ut quocumque loco fueris uixisse libenter te dicas; nam si ratio et prudentia curas, 25 non locus effusi late maris arbiter aufert, caelum, non animum mutant, qui trans mare currunt. Strenua non exercet inertia; nauibus atque quadrigis...</summary>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Horace: Epistles, Book 1, XI&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;Quid tibi uisa Chios, Bullati, notaque Lesbos,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
quid concinna Samos, quid Croesi regia Sardis,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Zmyrna quid et Colophon? Maiora minoraue fama,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
cunctane prae Campo et Tiberino flumine sordent?&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
An uenit in uotum Attalicis ex urbibus una?               &lt;font size="2"&gt;5&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
An Lebedum laudas odio maris atque uiarum?&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Scis Lebedus quid sit: Gabiis desertior atque&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Fidenis uicus; tamen illic uiuere uellem,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
oblitusque meorum, obliuiscendus et illis,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Neptunum procul e terra spectare furentem.               &lt;font size="2"&gt;10&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
 Sed neque qui Capua Romam petit, imbre lutoque&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
aspersus uolet in caupona uiuere; nec qui&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
frigus collegit, furnos et balnea laudat&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
ut fortunatam plene praestantia uitam;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
nec si te ualidus iactauerit Auster in alto,               &lt;font size="2"&gt;15&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
idcirco nauem trans Aegaeum mare uendas.&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Incolumi Rhodos et Mytilene pulchra facit quod&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
paenula solstitio, campestre niualibus auris,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
per brumam Tiberis, Sextili mense caminus.&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Dum licet ac uoltum seruat Fortuna benignum,               &lt;font size="2"&gt;20&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Romae laudetur Samos et Chios et Rhodos absens.&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
 Tu quamcumque deus tibi fortunauerit horam&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
grata sume manu neu dulcia differ in annum,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
ut quocumque loco fueris uixisse libenter&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
te dicas; nam si ratio et prudentia curas,               &lt;font size="2"&gt;25&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
non locus effusi late maris arbiter aufert,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
caelum, non animum mutant, qui trans mare currunt.&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Strenua non exercet inertia; nauibus atque&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
quadrigis petimus bene uiuere. Quod petis, hic est,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
est Vlubris, animus si te non deficit aequus.               &lt;font size="2"&gt;30&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p class="shortborder"&gt;&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
What did you think of Chios, dear Bullatius, &lt;br&gt;Or the famous Lesbos? What of beautiful Samos? &lt;br&gt;What of Croesus’ royal Sardis, Smyrnaand Colophon? &lt;br&gt;Better or worse than claimed, are they all worthless, beside &lt;br&gt;The Campus and Tiber’s stream? Or are you set on one &lt;br&gt;Of Attalus’ cities, or weary of roads and seas praise &lt;br&gt;Lebedus? You know Lebedus: even more empty &lt;br&gt;Than Gabiior Fidenae! Still I’d choose to live there, &lt;br&gt;Forgetting all my friends, and forgotten by them, &lt;br&gt;Gazing from the shore at distant Neptune’s fury! &lt;br&gt;Yet a man heading for Rome from Capua, soaked &lt;br&gt;With mud and rain, wouldn’t choose to live in an inn: &lt;br&gt;Nor does one who catches a chill praise stove and bath &lt;br&gt;As the total answer to living a happy life: &lt;br&gt;Nor will you, tossed by a southerly gale on the deep, &lt;br&gt;Across the Aegean, sell your ship because of it! &lt;br&gt;To a healthy man, Rhodes and beautiful Mytilene &lt;br&gt;Are a heavy cloak in summer, a loincloth worn in &lt;br&gt;A snowstorm, the wintry Tiber, or an August fire. &lt;br&gt;While Fate proves benign, and while you can, from Rome, &lt;br&gt;Praise the far-distant, Samos, and Chios, and Rhodes. &lt;br&gt;And whatever the hour heaven has blessed you with &lt;br&gt;Accept it gratefully, don't put off what’s sweet to some &lt;br&gt;Other year: then wherever you’ve lived, you can say &lt;br&gt;You were happy. It’s wisdom, it’s reason, not some place&lt;br&gt;Overlooking a breadth of water, that drives out care: &lt;br&gt;Those who rush to sea gain a change of sky not themselves. &lt;br&gt;Restless idleness occupies us: in yachts and chariots &lt;br&gt;We seek the good life. But what you’re seeking is here: &lt;br&gt;If your mind’s not lacking in calm, it’s at Ulubrae!&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;Original text:  &lt;a href="http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/"&gt;Latin Library&lt;/a&gt;:  &lt;a href="http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/hor.html" title="Horace in Latin"&gt;Q. HORATIVS FLACCVS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
Translation:  A.S. Kline, &lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/"&gt;Poetry in Tranlation&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Horacehome.htm" title="Horace translation"&gt;Horace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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    <entry>
        <title>horace: more carpe diem</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341c504553ef011570b1bd8a970c</id>
        <published>2009-07-02T22:43:03-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-02T23:22:47-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">Epistles, Book 1, IV Albi, nostrorum sermonum candide iudex, quid nunc te dicam facere in regione Pedana? Scribere quod Cassi Parmensis opuscula uincat, an tacitum siluas inter reptare salubris, curantem quicquid dignum sapiente bonoque est? 5 Non tu corpus eras sine pectore; di tibi formam, di tibi diuitias dederunt artemque fruendi. Quid uoueat dulci nutricula maius alumno, qui sapere et fari possit quae sentiat, et cui gratia, fama, ualetudo contingat abunde, 10 et mundus uictus non deficiente crumina? Inter spem curamque, timores inter et iras omnem crede diem tibi diluxisse supremum; grata superueniet quae non sperabitur hora. Me pinguem et nitidum bene curata cute uises, 15 cum ridere uoles, Epicuri de grege porcum. Tibullus, sincere judge of my Satires, what shall I Say you're doing in your native country at Pedum? Writing something to outdo Cassius of Parma's pieces, Or creeping about silently in healthy woodland, Thinking of all that belongs to the wise and good? You were never just a body, lacking in feelings: The gods gave you beauty, wealth, the art of enjoyment. What more would a nurse desire for her sweet darling Than wisdom, the power to express what he feels, With a generous share of kindness,...</summary>
        <author>
            <name>IHahn</name>
        </author>
        <category scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" term="Ancient Poetry" />
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Epistles, Book 1, IV&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Albi, nostrorum sermonum candide iudex,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
quid nunc te dicam facere in regione Pedana?&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Scribere quod Cassi Parmensis opuscula uincat,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
an tacitum siluas inter reptare salubris,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
curantem quicquid dignum sapiente bonoque est?               &lt;font size="2"&gt;5&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
 Non tu corpus eras sine pectore; di tibi formam,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
di tibi diuitias dederunt artemque fruendi.&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Quid uoueat dulci nutricula maius alumno,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
qui sapere et fari possit quae sentiat, et cui&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
gratia, fama, ualetudo contingat abunde,               &lt;font size="2"&gt;10&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
et mundus uictus non deficiente crumina?&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
 Inter spem curamque, timores inter et iras&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
omnem crede diem tibi diluxisse supremum;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
grata superueniet quae non sperabitur hora.&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Me pinguem et nitidum bene curata cute uises,               &lt;font size="2"&gt;15&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
cum ridere uoles, Epicuri de grege porcum.&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;Tibullus, sincere judge of my Satires, what shall I &lt;br&gt;Say you're doing in your native country at Pedum? &lt;br&gt;Writing something to outdo Cassius of Parma's pieces, &lt;br&gt;Or creeping about silently in healthy woodland, &lt;br&gt;Thinking of all that belongs to the wise and good? &lt;br&gt;You were never just a body, lacking in feelings: &lt;br&gt;The gods gave you beauty, wealth, the art of enjoyment. &lt;br&gt;What more would a nurse desire for her sweet darling &lt;br&gt;Than wisdom, the power to express what he feels, &lt;br&gt;With a generous share of kindness, health and fame, &lt;br&gt;An elegant mode of life, and no lack of money? &lt;br&gt;Beset by hopes and anxieties, indignation and fear, &lt;br&gt;Treat every day that dawns for you as the last. &lt;br&gt;The unhoped-for hour's ever welcome when it comes. &lt;br&gt;When you want to smile then visit me: sleek, and fat &lt;br&gt;I'm a hog, well cared-for, one of Epicurus' herd. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Original text:  &lt;a href="http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/"&gt;Latin Library&lt;/a&gt;:  &lt;a href="http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/hor.html" title="Horace in Latin"&gt;Q. HORATIVS FLACCVS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
Translation:  A.S. Kline, &lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/"&gt;Poetry in Tranlation&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Horacehome.htm" title="Horace translation"&gt;Horace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Horacehome.htm" title="Horace translation"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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    <entry>
        <title>back to horace: carpe diem</title>
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        <published>2009-07-02T20:55:15-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-02T23:24:17-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">Odes, Book 1, XI Tu ne quaesieris (scire nefas) quem mihi, quem tibi finem di dederint, Leuconoe, nec Babylonios temptaris numeros. Vt melius quicquid erit pati! Seu pluris hiemes seu tribuit Iuppiter ultimam, quae nunc oppositis debilitat pumicibus mare 5 Tyrrhenum, sapias, uina liques et spatio breui spem longam reseces. Dum loquimur, fugerit inuida aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero. Leuconoë, don’t ask, we never know, what fate the gods grant us, whether your fate or mine, don’t waste your time on Babylonian, futile, calculations. How much better to suffer what happens, whether Jupiter gives us more winters or this is the last one, one debilitating the Tyrrhenian Sea on opposing cliffs. Be wise, and mix the wine, since time is short: limit that far-reaching hope. The envious moment is flying now, now, while we’re speaking: Seize the day, place in the hours that come as little faith as you can. Original text: Latin Library: Q. HORATIVS FLACCVS Translation: A.S. Kline, Poetry in Tranlation: Horace</summary>
        <author>
            <name>IHahn</name>
        </author>
        <category scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" term="Ancient Poetry" />
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Odes, Book 1, XI&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;Tu ne quaesieris (scire nefas) quem mihi, quem tibi&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
finem di dederint, Leuconoe, nec Babylonios&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
temptaris numeros. Vt melius quicquid erit pati!&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Seu pluris hiemes seu tribuit Iuppiter ultimam,&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
quae nunc oppositis debilitat pumicibus mare               &lt;font size="2"&gt;5&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
Tyrrhenum, sapias, uina liques et spatio breui&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
spem longam reseces. Dum loquimur, fugerit inuida&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero.&#xD;
&#xD;
&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;Leuconoë, don’t ask, we never know, what fate the&#xD;
gods grant us,&#xD;
&lt;br&gt;whether your fate or mine, don’t waste your time on&#xD;
Babylonian,&lt;br&gt;futile, calculations. How much better to suffer what&#xD;
happens,&lt;br&gt;whether Jupiter gives us more winters or this is the last&#xD;
one,&lt;br&gt;one debilitating the Tyrrhenian Sea on opposing cliffs.&lt;br&gt;Be wise, and mix the wine, since time is short: limit that&#xD;
far-reaching hope.&lt;br&gt;The envious moment is flying now, now, while we’re speaking:&lt;br&gt;Seize the day, place in the hours that come as little faith&#xD;
as you can.&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
&lt;p&gt;Original text:  &lt;a href="http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/"&gt;Latin Library&lt;/a&gt;:  &lt;a href="http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/hor.html" title="Horace in Latin"&gt;Q. HORATIVS FLACCVS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#xD;
&#xD;
Translation:  A.S. Kline, &lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/"&gt;Poetry in Tranlation&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Horacehome.htm" title="Horace translation"&gt;Horace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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        <title>upcoming book chat july 15 (and final for the season) 'tiberius' by allan massie</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341c504553ef011571a62509970b</id>
        <published>2009-07-02T20:21:08-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-02T20:21:56-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">Tiberius: The Memoirs of the Emperor By Allan Massie Blogging forthwith … just started re-reading the book.</summary>
        <author>
            <name>IHahn</name>
        </author>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786700076?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=stamfordhistoric&amp;amp;link_code=as3&amp;amp;camp=211189&amp;amp;creative=373489&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0786700076" style="margin: 3px 0px 5px 5px; float: right;"&gt;&lt;img alt="in association with amazon.com" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d8341c504553ef0115712f8b7d970b " src="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c504553ef0115712f8b7d970b-800wi" title="in association with amazon.com"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786700076?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=stamfordhistoric&amp;amp;link_code=as3&amp;amp;camp=211189&amp;amp;creative=373489&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0786700076"&gt;Tiberius: The Memoirs of the Emperor &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;By Allan Massie&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Blogging forthwith … just started re-reading the book.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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    <entry>
        <title>online book chats</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-31150188</id>
        <published>2009-07-01T23:00:00-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-01T23:35:29-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">This blog is an adjunct to The Roman History Reading Group which meets on the first and third Wednesday of each month except August in our chat room from 9:30 to 11:00 p.m. US EDT. (This means that in Asia and Australia/Pacific, it's daytime.) Here is a world time clock as a general assistance for non-USAns. Chat room location (with instructions) at Google Talk. 2009 Reading Schedule July 15 Tiberius: The Memoirs of the Emperor By Allan Massie August Recess Join us! We are now also on Facebook. New: Find our updates on Twitter.</summary>
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            <name>IHahn</name>
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        <title>the view from my window</title>
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        <published>2009-07-01T14:47:36-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-07-01T14:47:36-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">Little did I know when I tested my SLR last week that I photographed something unusual: June 29, 2009 (not as distinct though as in the City) Apocalyptic Sky Over New York Tonight Mammatus clouds</summary>
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            <name>IHahn</name>
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    <entry>
        <title>another online translation of horace</title>
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        <id>tag:typepad.com,2003:post-6a00d8341c504553ef0115718d343d970b</id>
        <published>2009-06-29T23:40:16-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-06-30T08:35:51-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">Update: Robert found the same translation at Wikisource: The Works of Horace, translated by By C. Smart. No date given though either, but looks like it's this Christopher Smart (1722 - 1771). (Works by Christopher Smart). First Book of Satires Second Book of Satires At Authorama: Horace: The Works of Horace (no translator name given) The First Book of the Satires of Horace The Second Book of the Satires of Horace</summary>
        <author>
            <name>IHahn</name>
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At &lt;a href="http://www.authorama.com/"&gt;Auth&lt;span class="logoO"&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;rama&lt;/a&gt;:  &lt;strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;li&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.authorama.com/works-of-horace-6.html"&gt;The First Book of the Satires of Horace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#xD;
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    <entry>
        <title> reading horace satires (ctd.) </title>
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        <published>2009-06-29T16:52:00-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-06-29T16:52:00-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">Now here is a true satire! Book II Satire V – Legacy Hunting BkIISatV:1-22 Ulysses questions Tiresias. 4 BkIISatV:23-44 The path to riches. 4 BkIISatV:45-69 Will-hunting!5 BkIISatV:70-88 Try every trick, but be careful!6BkIISatV:89-110 Be discrete even after inheriting</summary>
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            <name>IHahn</name>
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        <category scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" term="Ancient Poetry" />
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now here is a true satire!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkIISatV.htm"&gt;Book II Satire V&lt;/a&gt; &lt;strong&gt;– Legacy Hunting&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class="MsoToc1"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoHyperlink"&gt;&lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkIISatV.htm#_Toc98155063"&gt;BkIISatV:1-22&#xD;
Ulysses questions Tiresias&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoToc1"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoHyperlink"&gt;&lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkIISatV.htm#_Toc98155064"&gt;BkIISatV:23-44&#xD;
The path to riches&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoToc1"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoHyperlink"&gt;&lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkIISatV.htm#_Toc98155065"&gt;BkIISatV:45-69&#xD;
Will-hunting!&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoToc1"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoHyperlink"&gt;&lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkIISatV.htm#_Toc98155066"&gt;BkIISatV:70-88&#xD;
Try every trick, but be careful!&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="MsoHyperlink"&gt;&lt;a href="http://poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkIISatV.htm#_Toc98155067"&gt;BkIISatV:89-110&#xD;
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        <title>reading horace satires (ctd.)</title>
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        <published>2009-06-29T14:54:00-04:00</published>
        <updated>2009-06-29T14:54:00-04:00</updated>
        <summary type="html">Comparing Horace with Juvenal, I perceive Horace' Satires much less over the top, which when he describes scenes, gives us moderns a pretty good first hand impression of life in the Rome of his times. A good example, I think, is Satire 1, V – Journey to Brundisium: BkISatV:1-33 Off to meet Maecenas, going to Brindisi4 BkISatV:34-70 Onward to supper at Cocceius’ villa. 4BkISatV:71-104 And so by stages to journey’s end Of course, one has to chuckle quite a bit over Satire 2, VIII – A Dinner Party: BkIISatVIII:1-19 Nasidienus’ dinner-party. 4 BkIISatVIII:20-41 The guests. 4 BkIISatVIII:42-78 The trials of being a host5BkIISatVIII:79-95 The guests disperse! Texts from A.S. Kline (Poetry in Translation)</summary>
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            <name>IHahn</name>
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<content type="html" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/">&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Comparing Horace with Juvenal, I perceive Horace' Satires much less over the top, which when he describes scenes, gives us moderns a pretty good first hand impression of life in the Rome of his times.  A good example, I think, is Satire 1, V – &lt;a href="http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkISatV.htm"&gt;Journey to Brundisium&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&#xD;
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Off to meet Maecenas, going to Brindisi&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoToc1"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoHyperlink"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkISatV.htm#_Toc98155622"&gt;BkISatV:34-70&#xD;
Onward to supper at Cocceius’ villa&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="MsoHyperlink"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkISatV.htm#_Toc98155623"&gt;BkISatV:71-104&#xD;
And so by stages to journey’s end&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xD;
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&lt;p&gt;Of course, one has to chuckle quite a bit over Satire 2, VIII –&lt;a href="http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkIISatVIII.htm"&gt; A Dinner Party&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class="MsoToc1"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoHyperlink"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkIISatVIII.htm#_Toc98155283"&gt;BkIISatVIII:1-19&#xD;
Nasidienus’ dinner-party&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoToc1"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoHyperlink"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkIISatVIII.htm#_Toc98155284"&gt;BkIISatVIII:20-41&#xD;
The guests&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoToc1"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoHyperlink"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkIISatVIII.htm#_Toc98155285"&gt;BkIISatVIII:42-78&#xD;
The trials of being a host&lt;span style="color: windowtext; display: none; text-decoration: none;"&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="MsoHyperlink"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/HoraceSatiresBkIISatVIII.htm#_Toc98155286"&gt;BkIISatVIII:79-95&#xD;
The guests disperse!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xD;
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