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As I have already
covered in my previous article on the personal interest of the famous
and influential Catholic philosopher; Jacques Maritain, in the jewish
question is rather strong in spite of the fact that he wrote
comparatively little on the subject. (1) I have there pointed out
that Maritain had a jewish wife &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Raïssa
Oumansoff&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;; who was a convert to
Catholicism, plus many jewish friends who he seems to have; at least
in part, idolized. Further Maritain as I implied was originally an
anti-Semite and a follower of the ideas of the anti-Semitic
nationalist philosopher Charles Maurras. (2)&lt;/div&gt;
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Indeed Maritain had
written; in regards to the situation in Poland, as late as 1919 that:&lt;i&gt;
'One of the most evil and strongest influences that is felt here,
perhaps the strongest and most evil, is that of the Jews.'&lt;/i&gt; (3)&lt;/div&gt;
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Clearly then Maritain
still clung to Catholic; and indeed Christian, orthodoxy at the time
on the subject of the jews in 1919 (i.e. anti-Judaism not; as
Wasserstein would have it, anti-Semitism), but yet by 1939 he could
write that all Christians are spiritually Semites. (4) However; as I
outlined in my previous article, I would date Maritain's own
Judeophilia to some years earlier in 1904 when he met his jewish wife
and then converted to Catholicism with her in 1906.&lt;/div&gt;
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I cannot agree with
either Kertzer or Wasserstein in relation to their dating of
Maritain's tout face on the subject of the jews to the advent of the
Third Reich in 1933. I would argue that the roots of so superficially
radical a change are much deeper. In particular I would point out the
need for clarity of terminology to understanding what made Maritain
so violently oppose the rise of anti-Semitism but yet so accepting of
anti-jewish Christian orthodoxy before this.&lt;/div&gt;
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The point is simple
enough: if we are to understand Maritain's seeming double standards
then we need to comprehend that Christianity as a whole; although
there have been historical aberrations which defined jewishness
biologically or wanted Christians to become jews, has long had a
streak of anti-Judaism within it.&lt;/div&gt;
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Now what do I mean by
that?&lt;/div&gt;
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Well very simply
anti-Judaism is the opposition to Judaism not jews per se. Christian
anti-Judaism has tended to focus less on the conduct of individual
jews and much more on criticizing and commenting on both Judaism
itself as well as Judaism's own criticisms of Christianity. The key
thing to understand with traditional Christian anti-Judaism is that
it allowed the possibility that individual jews could come good and
convert to Christianity, which would then in turn mean that they lost
the stigma of jewishness in the eyes of most of the Christian church.&lt;/div&gt;
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However anti-Semitism
was a whole other intellectual world: to the anti-Semite by contrast
whether a jew confessed to a belief in Judaism or whether they had
converted to Christianity didn't matter, because jews were a
biological group and thus the problem was not their rejection of
Jesus, but rather their actions as a biologically-based minority in
competition with a biologically-based majority represented by their
host countries.&lt;/div&gt;
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In essence in Christian
anti-Judaism: Maritain's jewish wife was acceptable, because she had;
figuratively, seen the light and converted to Christianity from
Judaism. To anti-Semitism however this was irrelevant because
jewishness was not a religious label, but in fact a biological one.&lt;/div&gt;
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Once we understand this
we can very quickly see why Mauritain seemed to switch overnight from
tacitly accepting anti-Judaism to becoming a vocal critic of
anti-Semitism. This is very simply because anti-Judaism was the
orthodoxy of Christianity; especially that of the Catholic Church at
this time, and to oppose it as a Papal Nuncio: Maritain would have
probably caused his own recall and as well damaged his own future
influence given that senior Catholics at this time were strident in
their anti-jewish views. (5)&lt;/div&gt;
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Further anti-Judaism
was no threat to Maritain's personal situation precisely because
according to Christian norms: his wife was now a Christian like any
other and the stigma of her jewishness did not; for many, come into
the matter. 
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
However with the rise
of anti-Semitism in the late 1920s and then the advent of the Third
Reich in 1933: this changed. While some Catholic clerics; like
Cardinal Hlond of Poland, continued to attack the jews while broadly
distancing themselves from anti-Semitism and the Third Reich more
specifically: others went the opposite way; like the English Catholic
writer Gilbert Keith Chesterton, and endorsed a kind of Judeophilia
(an irrational love of the jews) in spite of having made many
previous comments which; even then, were borderline anti-Semitic.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Maritian; of course,
decided on the second approach to the problem and what seems to have
in large part decided this was his jewish wife as well as his
already; and increasingly, liberal reading of Christianity, which had
been taking shape since 1904. That it was Maritain's jewish wife that
was the key factor in his increasing Judeophilia is easily evidenced
by looking at his work on the jewish question.&lt;/div&gt;
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Now; to briefly
explain, I have utilized one of the few times that Maritain addressed
the issue of the jews and anti-Semitism to elucidate his views (i.e.
his short book 'Anti-Semitism' from 1939) largely because it is his
major statement on the issue and contains an excellent distillation
of all that had to say about the jews in a chapter of another of his
books (&lt;i&gt;'Questions de Conscience' &lt;/i&gt;from 1938 although originally
written in 1937) and his other short book on the jewish question (&lt;i&gt;'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;A
Christian Look at the Jewish Question' &lt;/i&gt;also &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;from
1938). Thus I felt it unnecessary to cite everything that Maritain
wrote on the issue of the jews as &lt;i&gt;'Anti-Semitism'&lt;/i&gt; is simply a repeat
of his earlier arguments with additional qualification and new
information on his part.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;
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With this necessary
side issue out of the way we can proceed to Maritain's actual text
and the stress; or rather lack of it, that Maritan places on racial
doctrines in regards to the jews. 
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Maritain tells us that:
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;'The truth is that the
Jews are not a race in the biological sense of the word.' &lt;/i&gt;(6) 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
He then proceeds to add
that: 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;'Eminent scientists
have concluded that, in man's present historic stage, the idea of
race corresponds to no anatomical-physiological reality, to no unity
of “blood,” but merely to types of “mentalities” produced by
historic and social conditions. Its significance rests on extremely
complex historical factors (of a psycho-ethico-sociological
character) formed by the course of time, rather than on hereditary
characteristics transmitted by blood.'&lt;/i&gt; (7)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Before briefly
analysing this; to put it politely, nonsense we should take note of
the qualifier that Maritain introduces in his argument: 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;'We know that in man's
present stage of development there is no group of any importance,
even that most favoured in this respect, which is pure in race.' &lt;/i&gt;(8)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Now what is interesting
about this qualifier is that we can very clearly see that Maritain is
trying to degrade the very idea of relative racial purity; which is
central to both nationalism and to most forms of anti-Semitism, so
that every individual of every suggested racial group becomes de
facto racially impure thus rendering any reason for not sleeping with
other racial groups moot. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This then clearly plays
into Maritain's personal situation given his love for and union with
a jewess as if racial classification holds true then it means; very
simply, that he is betraying his race and that &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Oumansoff
is still jewish regardless of her formal profession of Christianity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;To
justify this rationalizing need to attack the concept of race:
Maritain engages in what I can only refer to as a lie by omission. He
cites the fact that&lt;i&gt; 'eminent scientists'&lt;/i&gt;; which is incidentally a use
of the fallacy that has come to be known as &lt;i&gt;'weasel words'&lt;/i&gt;, have&lt;i&gt;
'concluded' &lt;/i&gt;that there is no such thing as race. He wasn't
technically wrong in saying this as some scientists did argue
precisely this, but yet they were not all; or even a majority, of the
major figures in biological science at the time such as Wesley George
and Carleton Coon to name but two: who agreed that race was a valid
taxonomic category and also that pure races did exist.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
essence Maritain is being thoroughly dishonest here as he would have;
and indeed should have, known better: that he did is shown by his
airy-sounding remark about &lt;i&gt;'extremely complex historical factors'&lt;/i&gt;,
which is basically telling us that he doesn't know why he is right
(with the implication he knew a lot of &lt;i&gt;'eminent scholars' &lt;/i&gt;disagreed
with him) but that he believes he is regardless (i.e. it is an appeal
to mysticism as opposed to a piece of evidence or an argument).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;What
is perhaps more interesting is that Maritain does not remark on the
substantial debate on the subject of the categorization of the jews
as a racial group which was then going on between largely German,
Swedish and French scientists (For) and British and American
scientists (Against). It is odd that Maritain didn't plump for the
British and American interpretation in part because it would have
resolved his immediate issue with Oumansoff's jewishness, but as
Maritain was a philosopher and a Christian one at that: he took the
logic to its ultimate conclusion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Mankind
had to be one and the same people to be equal in the sight of God,
which would necessarily render race an invalid classification (in
humans anyway). This then makes sense of Maritain's adoption of the
extreme position of the denial of race and belief in the infinite
plasticity of humanity; vis-a-vis the use of environmental factors,
which was the hallmark of the fashionable left-wing counter to
racialism: Boasian anthropology. (9)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
irony is; of course, the fact that Boas was not even a trained
biologist (much like the German author on race: Hans Guenther) and
was directly involved in distorting biological science and American
anthropology into supporting Marxism's assumptions about nature. (10)
Maritain did not not realise it, but his&lt;i&gt; 'eminent scientists'&lt;/i&gt; were
actually communists of the very kind that most Christians were
decrying and the Pope was forcibly and volubly condemning at that
particular moment in time. It also confirms the charges that were&amp;nbsp;leveled&amp;nbsp;at him by French nationalists at the time of being a&lt;i&gt;
'mongrelizer of the races'&lt;/i&gt;, (11) which works on two levels in that he
was married to a jewess and advocated the abandonment of racial
classification.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Maritain
himself however adopted the position that in a choice between two
evils: the Nazis were worse than the Communists. His rationale for
this was that while Communism was secularism: it was&lt;i&gt; 'against God
universally'&lt;/i&gt;, while the Nazis are secular while being specifically
anti-Christian and anti-Semitic (and thus worse). (12)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is obviously rather strained reasoning, which only makes sense when
we recognise that; according Maritain, Christians are the new Jews
(13) and that this is why both Christians and Jews were persecuted in
equal numbers in the Third Reich. (14) That is simply wrong is
neither here nor there, but we should note that it is regardless.
(15)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Indeed
Maritain actually goes further in developing his idea of the
&lt;i&gt;'mystical body of Israel'&lt;/i&gt; (16) in that he styles the Christians as
being merely the followers of the jews, (17) which suggests that
Maritain's thought had developed to the point of implicitly placing
the jews a superior group of people to gentiles. (18) This is
particularly brought out when Maritain speaks of the &lt;i&gt;'special
mission'&lt;/i&gt; of the jews to essentially be an indivisible remnant making
the jewish question unsolvable outside of the Second Coming of
Christ. (19)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
jews then; according to Maritain, are to; in effect, hold witness to
the truth of Christianity in their&lt;i&gt; 'heroic tribute to the sanctity of
a personal and transcendent God.'&lt;/i&gt; (20) In other words the jews are a
kind of spiritual and literal sacrifice to the God of Israel, because
they sacrifice in the &lt;i&gt;'unjust persecution'&lt;/i&gt; to which they are
subjected and also in the literal persecution which Maritain claims;
on more than one occasion, will see them &lt;i&gt;'exterminated'&lt;/i&gt; by the Third
Reich (i.e. a blood sacrifice as in the Old Testament). (21)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is obviously prescient given that Maritain believed in 1939 that the
jews were going to be subject to a &lt;i&gt;'Holocaust' &lt;/i&gt;type scenario and in
1945 it was Maritain who spent a good deal of time trying to persuade
the Vatican to support the official&lt;i&gt; 'Holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; narrative. Either
Maritain was remarkably good at divining the future or Maritain was
predisposed to belief in an extermination program.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
latter is the more likely given Maritain's strident belief; in spite
of the large amount of evidence from the mass migration of jews from
the Russian Empire from the 1880s up till the early 1920s, that mass
emigration was quite impossible (22) and that the German attitude to
the jews so bad (23) that the Germans would necessarily have to
attempt to exterminate the jews in order to be rid of them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Indeed
we can see on this point that Maritain's belief; that emigration was
impossible and that extermination the likely alternative in countries
where anti-Semitism was state policy, informs his theological
positions on the jews which emphasizes the idea of a jewish &lt;i&gt;'remnant'&lt;/i&gt;
as witness to Christian truth and also assumes that all that the jews
have been accused of; as a group, is necessarily false or unjust. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;It
also notably allows Maritain and the Church to escape complicity in;
what Maritain viewed as, the inevitable attempt by the Third Reich to
exterminate the jews by arguing that the Church had historically been
a pro-jewish institution and needed the jews in order to fulfil her
purpose on earth (thus its opposition to the jews was purely
theological and completely different from anti-Semitism). (24)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Maritain
develops this view by attacking what he considers as common
anti-Semitic charges such as the jews were behind the Russian
Revolution, that the jews own all the large banks and so on.
Maritain's arguments on this score; such as they are, amount to
emphasizing a distinction between the individual and the group. In so
far as he argues that the actions of several jews cannot be used to
condemn the whole of jewry (25) and further that no critic of jews
has ever known enough jews to make a sound judgement about as them as
a group. (26)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is fairly standard intellectual fare for those arguing against
anti-Semitism to this day, but as with such intellectually liberal
propositions: it doesn't stand up to even basic scrutiny. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
reason for this is very simple in so far as Maritain and others; in
regards to the second point, are not arguing from an agnostic
position on the judgement of the jews. In fact they are arguing from
the position of believing the jews to be a universal (or a net) force
for good as a group; or as &lt;i&gt;'the agent of higher culture formation'&lt;/i&gt; as
Maritain might phrase it, (27) which means that Maritain; and those
who tend to use this argument, are trying to have their cake and eat
it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
order to suggest that no group judgements can be made without knowing
or sampling a sufficient amount of the given group: one has to
abstain from making judgements about them whatsoever oneself because
if we introduce our own subjective value into the equation (be it
positive or negative) then it necessarily means that you are
asserting that a group judgement cannot be made when the it is (in
this instance) for the assignation of blame, but yet a group
judgement can be made when it is for the assignation of praise.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is; simply put, a contradiction in terms.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
then nicely brings us back to the first point in that Maritain is; as
I have above outlined, trying to assign the jews praise as a group,
but then refuses to assign them blame as a group. This is necessarily
an invalidation of his own argument, but it doesn't stop there;
because Maritain actually suggests that the jews have been &lt;i&gt;'adopted
by God'&lt;/i&gt; as a people and thus &lt;i&gt;'godly'&lt;/i&gt; group judgements can be made.
(28)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is obviously another appeal to mysticism (i.e. saying &lt;i&gt;'it is a
mystery'&lt;/i&gt; as your rationale for making a contradictory or incomplete
affirmative case) on Maritain's part and as such deserves little
attention other than pointing out that it necessarily demonstrates
how weak Maritain's arguments; regardless of his bombastic
theological rhetoric and pleasing written style, actually are,
because he cannot show material evidence for them, but rather tells
us that he knows it to be true because he was informed by a higher
power (in effect).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;That
said Maritain does make one quite interesting argument; aside from
trotting out the claims that the Protocols of Zion were the result of
an anti-Semitic conspiracy headed by the Tsarist secret police (29)
and the jews were only disproportionately over-represented among the
leading Bolshevisk because of unjustified anti-Semitic persecution
before the event, (30) when he argues that; as the jews are
individualists by nature (31) and are natural capitalists not
communists (32) [he actually labels modern economics to be of jewish
inspiration] (33) that the solution to the jewish question in
society; as it was then, would be to get gentiles to compete better
against nature's capitalists: the jews. (34)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Maritain
believed that free competition between jews and gentiles could allow
for the creation of better economies and also liberalize society
creating tolerance. However Maritain failed to understand that free
competition is not simply limited to a set playing field of business
with firms and entrepreneurs competing on price, quality, brand and
so on. It is much wider than that because the freer the competition
the more firms and entrepreneurs will take to using extra-market
methods to influence the competitive struggle: so for example bribing
a politician to introduce legislation that would be more favourable
to them than all or some of their competitors leading; potentially,
to an increase in market share for them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
means; in effect, that Maritain's solution was completely unrealistic
and part of the reason that the legislation was preferable to this
so-called&lt;i&gt; 'free competition'&lt;/i&gt;. Was precisely because the jews had
abused the hospitality of North American and European countries by
not competing fair and square, but rather being so ruthless as to
begin to employ extra-market methods to get their own way and turn
these same countries into miniature versions of Eden for jews and
miniature versions of hell for non-jews (although the jews believed;
and still believe, this was the divinely-ordained order of things).
Anti-jewish legislation simply represented an extra-market method by
the majority of non-jews to combat the extra-market methods that the
jews had been using to better their situation at the expression of
that of the gentiles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
irony is; of course, that it was these same extra-market methods
which were being used by jews in Germany to bring in policies which
was contrary to the interests of Christianity at that time such as
the attempt to normalize homosexuality (lead by Magnus Hirschfeld),
the attempt to bring about a Communist state in Germany (Rosa
Luxembourg and Kurt Eisner among others) and the destruction of the
home by feminists (such as the non-jewish Klara Zetkin but whose
ideas were often taken in actuality from Rosa Luxembourg).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;However
we are told by Maritain that the Germany of the 1920s was a paradise
for the jews: (35) but yet he doesn't seem to realise that in
defending the jews he is actually voting against everything he
himself is against as a Christian in addition to working for the
abolition of Christianity in Germany.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
essence Maritain was a brilliant philosopher; reading his
interpretation of Saint Thomas Aquinas is a very pleasurable
experience, but he was also an intellectually weak and naive man
divided by the love of his jewish wife on the one hand and Catholic
orthodoxy on the other. He chose to fight against his own faith for
his wife's sake as his objections to anti-Semitism; as I have above
outlined, are based on the supposition that he knows Christianity
better than anyone else and that God has chosen the jews to be his
agents as much as he has the Christians.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
other words Maritain advocated&lt;i&gt; 'mongrelizing the races'&lt;/i&gt;, because that
was what he himself was doing every day.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(1)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/jacques-maritains-jewish-problem.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/05/jacques-maritains-jewish-problem.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(2) Bernard
 Wasserstein, 2012,&lt;i&gt; 'On the Eve: The Jews of Europe before the Second
 World War'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Simon and Schuster: New York, p.
 32&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(3) Quoted in David
 Kertzer, 2001, &lt;i&gt;'The Popes Against the Jews: The Vatican's Role in
 the Rise of Modern Anti-Semitism'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Editon, Knopf: New
 York, p. 251&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(4) Jacques Maritain,
 1939,&lt;i&gt; 'Anti-Semitism'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Geoffrey Bless:
 London, p. 27&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(5) Wasserstein, Op.
 Cit., pp. 31-32&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(6) Maritain, Op.
 Cit., p. 13&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(7) Ibid, pp. 13-14&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(8) Ibid, p. 13&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(9) On the absurdity
 of this position see Frank Miele, Vincent Sarich, 2004,&lt;i&gt; 'Race: The
 Reality of Human Differences'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Westview:
 Boulder&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(10) On this see Gary
 Bullert, 2009,&lt;i&gt; 'Franz Boas as Citizen-Scientist: Gramscian-Marxist
 Influence on American Anthropology'&lt;/i&gt;, Journal for Social, Political
 and Economic Studies, Vol. 34, No. 2, pp. 208-243&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(11) Leon Poliakov,
 2003, [1979],&lt;i&gt; 'The History of Anti-Semitism'&lt;/i&gt;, Vol. IV, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition, University of Pennsylvania Press: Philadelphia, p. 304&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(12) Maritain, Op.
 Cit., p. 21&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(13) Ibid, p. 16&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(14) Ibid, pp. 12-13&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(15) See Susannah
 Heschel, 2008,&lt;i&gt; 'The Aryan Jesus: Christian Theologians and the Bible
 in Nazi Germany'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Princeton University
 Press: Princeton&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(16) Maritain, Op.
 Cit., p. 18&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(17) Ibid, p. 16&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(18) Ibid, pp. 11; 16&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(19) Ibid, p. 17&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(20) Ibid, p. 23&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(21) Ibid, pp. 3-4; 6;
 24&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(22) Ibid, p. 3&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(23) Ibid, pp. 6-7;
 36-37&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(24) Wasserstein, Op.
 Cit., pp. 30-32 neatly summarizes this.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(25) Maritain, Op.
 Cit., pp. 5-6&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(26) Ibid, pp. 8; 19&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(27) Ibid, pp. 5; 20;
 22&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(28) Ibid, p. 12&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(29) Ibid, p. 7&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(30) Ibid, pp. 7-8&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(31) Ibid, p. 7&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(32) Ibid, pp. 4-5;
 9-11&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(33) Ibid, p. 9&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(34) Ibid, p. 5&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(35) Ibid, pp. 9-10&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
</description><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SemiticControversies/~3/pr9ncGsIi10/jacques-maritain-anti-semitism-and-jews.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Karl Radl)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/05/jacques-maritain-anti-semitism-and-jews.html</feedburner:origLink></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8878064790402161553.post-5764864527169819645</guid><pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2013-05-15T13:23:36.182-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Maurice Fishberg</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">holocaust</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Third Reich</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Anthropology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">jews</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Germany</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">race</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Joseph Jacobs</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism 2.0</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">National socialism</category><title>Joseph Jacobs, the NSDAP and the Famous 'Jewish Noses' Diagram</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
As I might not have a chance to write anything later today I thought it an idea to quickly publish an observation that my readers may find interesting. Now when I was in high school &amp;nbsp;I was subjected to three long years of fairly intensive &lt;i&gt;'Holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; education; the reason being that the history tutors at our school had all specialized in the &lt;i&gt;'Holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; during their undergraduate history degrees, and of the many examples of &lt;i&gt;'Nazi propaganda about the jews' &lt;/i&gt;that I was told about and shown during that time: one in particular has always stuck with me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is a diagram of jewish noses that was allegedly; according to my old history textbook anyway, a Nazi diagram meant to confirm their pseudo-scientific beliefs about; as well as encourage hatred of, the jews. That particular diagram &amp;nbsp;I found online yesterday when I happened to recall it and what I had (accidentally) discovered about it in the interim years.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The diagram concerned is thus:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.od43.com/Jew_Rassenkunde_6.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="290" src="http://www.od43.com/Jew_Rassenkunde_6.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now I am sure that my fellow long-standing sufferers of indoctrination will remember that one of the claims about this diagram is that it was a crude bit of Nazi propaganda and was meant to get people to believe that a &lt;i&gt;'jewish nose' &lt;/i&gt;sometimes looked like the figure six and thus; as six is the number of the devil, the jews were evil.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As I've already intimated: some time ago I happened to come across this diagram again, but yet there were no mentions of Nazis or anti-Semitism in sight. (1) Indeed the scientist discussing it regards its use by the NSDAP as irrelevant in part because it was actually drawn by one of the most important jewish anthropologists and writers of the late nineteenth/early twentieth century called Joseph Jacobs. (2)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Specifically the article it comes from is&amp;nbsp;Joseph Jacobs, 1885,&lt;i&gt; 'On the racial characteristics of modern Jews'&lt;/i&gt;, Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute, Vol. 15, pp. 23-62.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is interesting precisely because it points out the fact that what&lt;i&gt; 'Holocaust' &lt;/i&gt;historians are teaching as 'crude Nazi propaganda' designed to make make people hate jews was actually a diagram taken from a major jewish author on the subject of the racial anthropology of the jews and was meant to (correctly) illustrate the agreement between&lt;i&gt; 'Nazi racial science' &lt;/i&gt;and&lt;i&gt; 'Jewish racial science' &lt;/i&gt;on the distinctive physical characteristics of the jews.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is also neatly points out that &lt;i&gt;'crude Nazi propaganda' &lt;/i&gt;against the jews is quite frequently not crude, not factually inarguable even today and was good science in its day (which also means that looking doing on it today; because science is a continuous empirical process not a state, is essentially a tautology).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Scratch one myth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(1) John Baker, 1974,&lt;i&gt; 'Race'&lt;/i&gt;, 1st Edition, Oxford University Press: New York, p. 241&lt;br /&gt;
(2) On the importance of Jacobs see Maurice Fishberg, William Helmreich, 2006, [1911]&lt;i&gt;, 'Jews, Race &amp;amp; Environment'&lt;/i&gt;, 1st Edition, Transaction: New Brunswick, p. 3; Fishberg also reproduces exactly the same diagram on p. 85.&lt;/div&gt;
</description><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SemiticControversies/~3/BJdYLVSOjCs/joseph-jacobs-nsdap-and-famous-jewish.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Karl Radl)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/05/joseph-jacobs-nsdap-and-famous-jewish.html</feedburner:origLink></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8878064790402161553.post-7614274182622538542</guid><pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 19:51:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2013-05-14T18:55:06.983-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Dreyfus Affair</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Vatican II</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Pope Paul VI</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Charles Maurras</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">philosophy</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">jews</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Roman Catholic Church</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">France</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism 2.0</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Christianity</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Raïssa Oumansoff</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacques Maritain</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Leon de Poncins</category><title>Jacques Maritain's Jewish Problem</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Jacques
Maritain isn't exactly a household name, but it is the name of one of
the most important Christian philosophers of the twentieth century.
He was a man who was the guiding light of liberal Catholicism for
most of his mid to later life, counted among his pupils Pope Paul VI
and is rightly regarded; by both conservative and liberal Catholics
alike, as being one of the spiritual fathers of Vatican II.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
interesting thing about Jacques Maritain for us is really that he
wrote two books on anti-Semitism and the jews: one in 1938 (&lt;i&gt;'A
Christian Look at the Jewish Question'&lt;/i&gt;) (1) and the other in 1939
(&lt;i&gt;'Anti-Semitism'&lt;/i&gt;). (2)  It is also more importantly that Maritain was
a fairly central figure in attempting to impose the 'Holocaust'
theory onto the Vatican as well as removing anti-jewish doctrines
from Catholic Orthodoxy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Now
before we look at what Maritain thought (which will be covered in the
next article) in relation to the jews it is important to bring up and
understand three separate issues. To wit:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
the first instance Maritain was not exactly a neutral party on the
issue of the jewish question as his wife; who Maritain by all
accounts was genuinely in love for all his life, was a Russian jewess
named Raïssa Oumansoff. (3) Both Maritain and Oumansoff converted to
Catholicism in 1906 two years after they met in 1904 and both were
fairly well-known during their lives Maritain as a philosopher and
Oumansoff as a writer and poet. (4)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
means for all practical purposes that Maritain's philo-Semitism is
unlikely to ever have been disinterested and certainly had a direct
relation to his marriage to a jewess who had converted to
Christianity under his influence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
the second instance Maritain seems to have seen
socialisti-cum-anarchist jews as&lt;i&gt; 'role models'&lt;/i&gt; for his revolutionary
brand of liberalizing Catholicism; regardless of their religious
sentiments, such as the left-wing French jew named Saul Alinsky with
whom he became good friends. (5)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
obviously; to reinforce my earlier point, means that Maritain's views
on the jews are not those of a neutral observer, but rather a
partisan with a specific stake in the cause that he espouses.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
the third instance one of Maritain's major intellectual influences
was a French Catholic philosopher named Charles Maurras. You might
ask why that is odd given that all thinkers have an intellectual
ancestry so-to-speak, but add into the equation that Charles Maurras
was the intellectual figurehead behind the &lt;i&gt;'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Action
Française&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'
&lt;/i&gt;(6) and almost all of his writing espoused extreme nationalism (to
the point where even the SS had to move to silence him because he was
so nationalistic that he believed the NSDAP simply weren't radical
enough [and were German to boot]) as well as one of the most extreme
forms of intellectual anti-Semitism that has ever graced French
literature (Maurras was fairly homicidal towards jews). (7)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Or
to put it another way Maurras placed anti-Semitism at the core of
French patriotism and nationalism as well as being a public
nationalist intellectual par excellance (as Maritain was himself to
become). (8)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;That
presents us with something of a contradiction: doesn't it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
most philo-Semitic of French Catholic philosophers was
heavily-influenced by the most anti-Semitic of French Catholic
philosophers. It is certainly a strange thing to happen, but not
unprecedented at the time as one of the most philo-Semitic German
experts on Judaism; Hermann Strack, was actually the intellectual
mentor of one of the most anti-Semitic German experts on Judaism
(Erich Bischoff). (9)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Some
jewish academics would have it that anti-Semitic (although; we note,
not philo-Semitic) tout faces of this kind are the result of
political circumstance, (10) but I would disagree on the grounds that
this assumes that anti-jewish thought is ipso facto irrational. This;
in spite of the many attempts to claim it is so, is patently absurd
any more than it is to argue that anti-Islamic sentiment is ipso
facto irrational because anybody could construct and detonate a
suicide bomb not just Islamists.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Indeed
I would argue that what circumstance there is tends to be a mixture
of intellectual conviction, intellectual fashion (which incorporates
economic and cultural motivations) and personal circumstances. The
interesting thing is that Maurras violently opposed secularism (11)
and was also deeply interested in reconciling the differences between
Plato and Aristotle, (12) which mirrors Maritain's own intellectual
later interests in anti-secularism and a revolutionary form of
Christian philosophy based on a synthesis of Plato and Aristotle
using the medium of Saint Thomas Aquinas. (13)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;It
is also important to note that Maurras had begun writing only shortly
before Maritain entered higher education and with Maritain having a
voracious mind deeply interested in the problems of philosophy: it is
not surprising that he found an intellectual kindred spirit in
Maurras. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Indeed
if we take into account that Maritain was in higher education and
university in France between 1898 and 1906: then it is not difficult
to find the event that likely pushed him towards an interest in the
jewish question outside of his attraction for Oumansoff. That event
was very simply the Dreyfus Affair, which went on between 1894 and
1906. (14)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Maurras
naturally was an anti-Dreyfusard and wrote anti-jewish polemics
against the perfidy of Dreyfus and I find it difficult to imagine
that Maritain would not have taken the side of Maurras during this
early period especially as it was not until later that Dreyfus would
be found innocent.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;However
by the time of his meeting with Oumansoff in 1904: Maritain's
anti-jewish ideas; probably inherited from Maurras, were likely
beginning to wane (with the fortunes of the anti-Dreyfusards) with
his reading Saint Thomas Aquinas and the Catholic classics which
emphasized conversion and the goodness that man can do as opposed to
fighting the forces and influence of hell (which was more in tune
with Maurras and his intellectual confrères).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;We
can reasonably suggest that it is the introduction and then continued
presence of Oumansoff in Maritain's life that was the formative agent
in his views on the jews combined with his increasingly differing
reading of the purpose of and the challenges facing the Catholic
Church in comparison to Maurras. In essence Oumansoff was Maritain's
Esther; as in the principle figure in the book of Esther, where she
by dint of her jewishness controls the Platonic philosopher-king
(Maritian) by said king's love for her so that said king will use his
power to destroy the enemies of the jews (in Maritain's case ranging
himself against the French anti-jewish Catholic intellectuals such as
Monsignor Jouin). (15)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
then means; in effect, that Maritain was not the neutral partisan on
the jewish question that he is so often made out to be, (16) because
he had a jewish wife; who was like him a convert to Catholicism, and
also because he had close jewish friends who he wished to protect and
nurture into 'accepting Christ'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
reason Maritain's views on the jews have tended to be regarded as
relatively neutral is precisely because he wrote in an
unapologetically liberal tone; seeming reasonable while using
actually using rather strange logic (even for a Thomist), and that he
wrote very little on the subject of the jews. Outside of the two
books (and they are small ones even then) I can find only four
articles in his papers explicitly to do with the jews, (17) he seems
to have generally written little on the subject, but this doesn't
mean; as is usually assumed, that because he wrote little that he was
in anyway unbiased on the issue.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
reality it is probably because he wrote so little on the subject of
the jews that his extremely philo-Semitic views on the jews (which I
would without much equivocation style the irrational love of the jews
or Judeophilia) were as well-regarded as they were, because he wasn't
seen to obsess over the issue and instead focused on his philosophy
and using his &lt;i&gt;'true humanism'&lt;/i&gt; to change the Catholic Church in order
to suit both his liberal intellectual tastes and also make it a place
that would unequivocally accept his jewish wife and jewish friends as
Catholics like any other (as otherwise that wouldn't be 'his kind' of
Church).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Was
this not what the contemporary anti-jewish Catholic author; Leon de
Poncins, foresaw happening? (18)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Indeed:
it was.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(1) Jacques
 Maritain, 1938, &lt;i&gt;'A Christian Look at the Jewish Question'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Longmans and Green: New York&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(2) Jacques
 Maritain, 1939, &lt;i&gt;'Anti-Semitism'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Geoffrey
 Bles: London&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(3)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/maritain/" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/maritain/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 [Last Accessed: 14/05/2013]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(4) Ibid.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(5) Bernard
 Doering, 1986,&lt;i&gt; 'Jacques Maritain and His Two “Authentic
 Revolutionaries”'&lt;/i&gt;, pp. 93-96
 (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.u.arizona.edu/~aversa/modernism/Maritain%20and%20His%20Two%20Authentic%20Revolutionaries%20(Thomistic%20Papers%20III.).pdf" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://www.u.arizona.edu/~aversa/modernism/Maritain%20and%20His%20Two%20Authentic%20Revolutionaries%20(Thomistic%20Papers%20III.).pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 )&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(6) Thomas
 Molnar,&lt;i&gt; 'Charles Maurras, Shaper of an Age'&lt;/i&gt;, Modern Age, Fall 1999,
 pp. 339-341&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(7) Paula
 Hyman, 1998,&lt;i&gt; 'The Jews of Modern France'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition,
 University of California Press: Berkeley, p. 146&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(8) See
 Zeev Sternhall, David Maisel (Trans.), 1986,&lt;i&gt; 'Neither Right nor
 Left: Fascist Ideology in France'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition,
 University of California Press: Berkeley&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(9) See
 the following article:
 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/erich-bischoff-contra-hermann-strack.html" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2011/06/erich-bischoff-contra-hermann-strack.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(10) For
 example this is implied by Moshe Zimmerman, 1986,&lt;i&gt; 'Wilhelm Marr:
 Patriarch of Antisemitism'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Oxford
 University Press: New York, pp. 96-111&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(11) Pierre
 Birnbaum, Jane Marie Todd (Trans.), 1996, &lt;i&gt;'The Jews of the Republic:
 A Political History of State Jews in France from Gambetta to Vichy'&lt;/i&gt;,
 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Stanford University Press: Stanford, p. 131&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(12) Molner,
 Op. Cit., pp. 337-338&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(13) Doering,
 Op. Cit, pp. 91-92&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(14) For
 a good overview see Albert Lindemann, 1991, &lt;i&gt;'The Jew Accused: Three
 Anti-Semitic Affairs: Dreyfus, Beilis, Frank, 1894-1915'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Cambridge University Press: New York, pp. 94-128&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(15) On
 Jouin's fanatical hatred of and rather detailed research about the
 jews see Leon Poliakov, 2003, [1979], &lt;i&gt;'The History of
 Anti-Semitism'&lt;/i&gt;, Vol. 4, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, University of
 Pennsylvania: Philadelphia, pp. 282-283&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(16)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/maritain/" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/maritain/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(17) For
 details of the Maritain collected papers see:
 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://maritain.nd.edu/jmc/jm.htm" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://maritain.nd.edu/jmc/jm.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(18) Vicomte
 Leon de Poncins, Timothy Tindal-Robertson, 1967,&lt;i&gt; 'Judaism and the
 Vatican: An  Attempt at Spiritual Subversion'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Britons: London, pp. 167-174&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Palladius
of Galatia isn't exactly a household name even among those who
consider themselves fairly well-versed in early Christian history.
This is in partially because we know very little about Palladius
himself and all that we do know with some certainty is that he was a
fifth century bishop of Helenopolis and was a devoted follower of
Saint John Chrysostom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Indeed
one of Palladius' two surviving works is a book about the life of
Saint John Chrysostom: the other is his&lt;i&gt; 'Lausiac History'&lt;/i&gt;. What we do
know about Palladius is that he was well-regarded in his day and that
he had a considerable amount of correspondence and relations with
many senior Christians of his day.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;That
then gives us a basis for the authority and life of Palladius'
teachings and in particular we find a significant amount of material
in his two works on the subject of the jews.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;To
begin with in the &lt;i&gt;'Lausiac History' &lt;/i&gt;he writes that:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'But
Pythagoras, Diogenes and Plato drank water; so did the Manichaeans
and the rest of the band of soi-disant philosophers, and yet they
reached such a pitch of vain-glory in their intemperance that they
failed to know God and worshipped idols. The apostle Peter and his
companions used wine to some extent, so that their Master, our
Saviour, was himself reproached on account of their participation, by
the Jews' saying: "Why do not thy disciples fast as do the
disciples of John?" Again
insulting the disciples with reproaches they said: "Your Master
eats and drinks with the publicans and sinners."'&lt;/i&gt; (1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Here
we see Palladius casting the jews in the role as the fanatical
opposition to Jesus and as being devoted agents of the Devil in
casting aspersions on this character (i.e. his association with
drunks and prostitutes or put another way on his association with the
lowest of the low as opposed to hobnobbing with the great and the
good of his day) and also trying to draw him into imitating others
(why don't you abstain from sustenance like the disciples of John the
Baptist did/do) [thus proving him not to be original or wholly
truthful and thus not the Messiah]. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Palladius
continues thus:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'So
before their eyes he took scissors and cut off his left ear to the
base, saying to them: "Well, be convinced now that it is
impossible for me to be ordained, since the law forbids a man with
ear cut off to be raised to the priesthood." So then they left
him and departed and went and told the bishop. And he said to them:
"Let the Jews observe this law. For my part, if you bring a man
with his nose cut off worthy in character, I'll ordain him." So
they went off again and implored Ammonius. And he swore to them: "If
you use force to me, I'll cut off my tongue." So then they left
him and went their way.'&lt;/i&gt; (2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Here
Palladius is casting the jews once again in the role of the fanatical
opposition to Jesus and Christianity, but the emphasis he is using
has changed. This change is that rather than the jews trying to
actively lead the Christians; by contradiction and error, into the
arms of the Devil: they are instead passively observing the old laws
and if if; as the jews say,&lt;i&gt; 'it is written' &lt;/i&gt;then the they must do it
because it is written so.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Palladius'
point is simply that the old laws of the Torah (the 613 Mitzvoth in
historic and modern Judaism) are absurd and the jews observe them
rigidly without understanding them or seeing an obvious motive in
them: so; as he says, if the Torah forbade a man to be a priest who
had had an ear cut off then the jews would adhere to this without
critical appraisal regardless of how pointless or unjustified it may
actually be.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Essentially
he is making the point that the jews observe the letter; rather than
the spirit, of the law of  God and also observe those laws without
understanding them, which is; in Palladius' view, in direct
contradiction to Christian observance of the spirit of the law; as
opposed to the letter of the law, as well as using the tools of
logical analysis and philosophy to comprehend and make sense of those
laws in quasi-scholastic fashion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Palladius
illustrates this adversarial nature later when he relates a personal
anecdote to make a separate point. To wit:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'I
knew an old Palestinian named Gaddanas, who lived in the open air in
the region round the Jordan. Some Jews once set about him in a
fanatic outburst, in the region round the Dead Sea, and came against
him with swords drawn. And this incident occurred. When a man lifted
up his sword and wished to use it against Gaddanas, the hand of him
who had drawn it was withered up, and the sword fell from the hand of
its wielder.'&lt;/i&gt; (3)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
the above we can see that the jews are cast as having attacking a
pious Christian named Gaddanas and he was attacked due to this strong
Christian belief by jews &lt;i&gt;'with swords drawn'&lt;/i&gt;. However God protected
his devout follower and struck down his jewish attackers and thus
miraculously saved Gaddanas from harm (i.e. proving the jews wrong
and the Christians right).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;We
can see from this that Palladius means to suggest that the jews are
the eternal persecutors of Christians and they have been filling this
role ever since the crucifixion of Christ due to their persecution
and hand in killing of him (i.e. the charge of Deicide). Indeed
Palladius casts the jews very much in the role of the devil's own
mortal army who will stop at nothing to stop the spread of Christian
truth to the peoples of the world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is brought out in particular in Palladius' &lt;i&gt;'Dialogue concerning the
Life of Saint John Chrysostom'&lt;/i&gt; when he states that:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'So
they held a gathering, and
took steps to bring a suit against John. One of them suggested that
they should present petitions to the king, and insist upon his
appearing before the synod, however unwilling. This was the course
adopted; as with the Jews, so with them, money made everything easy.'&lt;/i&gt;
(4)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Palladius'
point is not hard to discern here in that the Christian synod was
aping the stratagem of the jews in dealing with Christian influence:
simply bribe officials to get your way as every individual has their
price regardless of ideological scruples and claims to the contrary.
The sub-text to the remark is; of course, that the jews have long
used bribery and the offer of money in exchange for political
influence as a practical political tool to fight against Christians
in the public and private spheres of life.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;To
Palladius' mind it seems that while the jews attacked Gaddanas with&lt;i&gt;
'swords drawn'&lt;/i&gt; ready to stab: they tend to attack Christians less in
this direct way, but rather with their cheque books drawn from their
pockets and ready to bribe.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is confirmed when Palladius tells us:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'The
feast of Pentecost passed, and five days afterwards Acacius,
Antiochus, Severianus, and Cyrinus came to the king, and said: "Your
majesty, as by God's appointment you are not under our authority, but
have authority over all, you can do whatever you will. Be not more
mild than a priest, and more holy than a bishop; we said to you
publicly, Upon our heads be the deposition of John. Do not then be
unmerciful to all of us, in being merciful to one man." They
employed the same language, I might say the same actions, as the
Jews, to persuade the king.'&lt;/i&gt; (5)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Palladius
here is clearly telling us that the jews use underhand and
dishonourable tricks such as bribery to get their way, but it is also
implied in what he says that the jews also use the additional
trickery of slanders, lies and calumny. In order to achieve their
ends as a bribe is accepted that much more easily when it is given a
justification and can be portrayed by the bribed party to be; shall
we say, &lt;i&gt;'in response to information received'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
other words the jewish assault on Christianity is two-fold according
to Palladius: the jews spread lies, slanders and calumnies against
the Christians and these are backed up by a campaign of bribery in
order to grease the acceptance of these claims.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
object of this twin campaign against Christians is elucidated by what
Palladius says happened as a result of it in the case of Saint John
Chrysostom. To wit:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'With
him went forth the angel, unable to bear the desolation of the
Church, brought about by wicked principalities and powers, who had
produced a sort of theatrical exhibition. Yes, there was a roar, like
that one hears in a theatre; the ungodly hissed and booed, Jews and
Greeks yelled at the top of their voices. And there were blows and
body wounds, inflicted by the soldiers, as if they were dealing with
criminals in a prison; while every faculty of the soul was tortured
by the withdrawal of the teacher, and by the blasphemy against God.'
&lt;/i&gt;(6)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
above presents us with the simple object of this campaign by the jews
in that it was to see the Christians persecuted by the authorities
and ultimately for Christian blood to stain the sands of the arena
with that of the common criminals, which would then slake the jewish
thirst for blood for at least a time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Palladius
also tells us quite clearly where the jews got the money for their
bribes from when he states as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'So
the synod ordered, that they should recover from the heirs of
Antoninus, and should communicate within the sanctuary, but not be
reckoned as priests, for fear that if their doings were condoned, a
custom might arise worthy of Jews or Egyptians, of selling and buying
the priesthood. They say that the pestilential patriarch of the Jews,
whose acts belied his title, used to change the rulers of the
synagogues every year, or every other year, as a means of raising
money; and that the Patriarch of Egypt emulated him by doing the
same, that the word of prophecy might be fulfilled, "Her priests
made answer for gifts, and her prophets divined for money." &lt;/i&gt;(7)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Now
in the above; quite side from the delightfully pejorative comments
Palladius makes about the&lt;i&gt; 'pestilential patriarch'&lt;/i&gt;, we can see that
he had identified that the jews have corrupted their own institutions
into being ones that can be bought and sold for profit by those in
authority. This then gives the purchaser a huge boost in
socio-cultural; in addition to political, status which they then
invariably use to enrich themselves in order to recoup their losses
(in much the same way as jews often brought tax-farming rights from
medieval monarchs in Eastern Europe [i.e. paying the monarch a fixed
sum for the right to collect taxes in a given area thus meaning that
you use every law possible to wring more money from the population]).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;However
it also gives the jewish leadership caste a considerable flow of
liquid capital/ready cash, which they can then use to bribe officials
and influential individuals/groups into following their agenda rather
than their own.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
also links nicely back to Palladius' comments in the&lt;i&gt; 'Lausiac
History'&lt;/i&gt; about the jews obeying the letter of the law as opposed to
being in-tune with the spirit of the law. As to him the jews have
debased their covenant with God so far that they are willing to sell
even the highest of spiritual offices, because it is no specifically
prohibited by the Torah but yet is clearly prohibited in the spirit
of the Torah in relation to the formation of the priesthood of
uncompromising Yahweh purists only beholden to God (i.e. the
Levites).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
buying and selling of the priesthood; or simony in Christian
theological vocabulary, for profit is then implicitly drawn on by
Palladius when he remarks about jews seeking to become Christian
priests and then deliberately causing the lowering of attendance at
Churches so as to remove; what Marxists would call, the &lt;i&gt;'mass base'&lt;/i&gt;
of the Church and thus remove a large segment of its political power
in its ability to gather mobs together and fights its religious
enemies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;To
wit:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'So
these companions of actors and Jews are entrusted by our clever
friends with the secrets of the priesthood, as if they were friends
of the Saviour, and in consequence the orthodox laity avoid the
houses of prayer.'&lt;/i&gt; (8)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
essence Palladius is telling us that jewish converts to Christianity
are&lt;i&gt; 'wolves in sheep's clothing' &lt;/i&gt;who are interested only in promoting
the agenda of the jews among the Christians by forcing the people
away from the Churches and thus making war upon Jesus. This is
clearly demonstrated by Palladius' reference to the jews as being the
enemies of Jesus and the inference of his remark that the jews were;
as a people, not the friends of Jesus and that jewish converts must;
accordingly, be &lt;i&gt;'wolves in sheep's clothing'&lt;/i&gt; as opposed to genuine
converts to Christianity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;We
can then sum up Palladius' strident opposition to the jews and place
him as one of the strongest critics of the jews among early Christian
intellectuals by quoting his own last words on the subject of the
jews, which find few parallels in Christian writing for their sheer
strength of feeling and their obvious erudition.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;He
ends thus:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'Perhaps
people who are always on the look-out for honours call this
insolence; but John says to those who came to put themselves under
his instruction, "O generation of vipers, who has warned you to
flee from the wrath to come?" And Paul, in the Acts, says to the
chief priest, "God shall smite thee, thou wailing wall;"
and the Saviour in one place says to the Jews, "A wicked and
adulterous generation seeks after a sign," and in another, to
all the apostles, "O fools and slow of heart." In yet
another He calls Peter, Satan" Get thee behind me, Satan; for
thou art an offence unto me." Yet there was no grave offence,
which called for these severe expressions.' &lt;/i&gt;(9)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(1) Pall.
 Lau. Hist. Pro. 9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(2) Pall.
 Lau. Hist. 11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(3) Ibid.
 50&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(4) Pall.
 Dia. Vit. John Chrys. 8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(5) Ibid.
 10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(6) Ibid.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(7) Ibid.
 15&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(8) Ibid.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(9) Ibid.
 19&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Ab&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;out
this time last year I published an article; &lt;i&gt;'The Origin of the
Goldwin Smith Quotation'&lt;/i&gt;, (1) about the often used quotation that
alleges that Goldwin Smith said the following in 1981:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'We
Jews regard our race as superior to all humanity, and look forward,
not to its ultimate union with other races, but to its triumph over
them.' &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Now;
just to briefly recap, I pointed out that in the first instance Goldwin Smith
wasn't jewish, in the second he was a prolific opponent of the jews
(being branded as the&lt;i&gt; 'founder'&lt;/i&gt; of intellectual anti-Semitism in
Canada for example) and that he wrote during the nineteenth century
not the twentieth century (ergo he wasn't alive in 1981 or even
1921).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Further
I pointed out that the quotation was completely wrong as he actually
wrote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;''The
Jew alone regards his race as superior to humanity, and looks forward
not to its ultimate union with other races, but to its triumph over
them all and to its final ascendancy under the leadership of a tribal
Messiah.'&lt;/i&gt; (2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;I
also pointed out that the earliest variant of this misquotation that
I was aware of was made by Gordon &lt;i&gt;'Jack'&lt;/i&gt; Mohr when he quoted it
(without giving an originating source) in his&lt;i&gt; 'The Satanic
Counterfeit'&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'Listen
to the Jew, Goldwin Smith, Professor of Modern History at Oxford
University, October 1881, “We regard our race as superior to
humanity, and look forward not to its ultimate union with other
races, but its triumph over them.”' &lt;/i&gt; (3)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Now
it seems fairly clear that between 1982 and present there has been a
mistype of 1881 for 1981, which would explain the rather silly error
on the part of those who use this quotation: made worse by the fact
that Goldwin Smith actually has a Wikipedia article explaining that
he wasn't jewish and an opponent of them. Even putting his name into
Google quickly reveals this to be the case.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;I've
been reading Goldwin Smith's rather considerable corpus of written
material on and off over the last year with a view to doing some
academic work on him (in part because we share a personal
connection), but I did come across an mention of Goldwin Smith's 1881
article&lt;i&gt; 'The Jewish Question' &lt;/i&gt;(from which this misquotation stems) in
William Guy Carr's &lt;i&gt;'Pawns in the Game'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;To
wit Carr says the following (which I have double-checked against the
original text of Smith's article):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'In
the Nineteenth Century, October issue, 1881, Goldwyn Smith, professor
of modern history at Oxford University wrote: “When I was last in
England we were on the brink of war with Russia, which would have
involved the whole Empire – the Jewish interests throughout Europe,
with the Jewish Press of Vienna as its chief organ, was doing its
utmost to push us in.”'&lt;/i&gt; (4)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Carr
also makes it explicitly clear that Smith was an anti-Semite and not
jewish when he spends a paragraph in his notes criticising Smith for
&lt;i&gt;'mistaking'&lt;/i&gt; the jews as the principle conspiratorial agent against
the British Empire (Carr prefers a Satanic plot headed by the
Illuminati in which the jews are just hapless pawns). (5)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;It
thus seems that between the last edition of Carr's book (the sixth in
1966 although there was a reprint in 1967) and Mohr's &lt;i&gt;'The Satanic
Counterfeit'&lt;/i&gt;: there has been a substantive change in the
interpretation of Smith's article. It does however pointedly inform
us that Smith's 1881 article&lt;i&gt; 'The Jewish Question'&lt;/i&gt; was well-known in
anti-jewish circle, but Smith himself was probably not (hence both
why it was misquoted as well as also how the editor heard of the
obscure article and Smith).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;It
also suggests (but does not prove) that between 1967 and 1982 was
when the quotation was altered to make it seem like Smith was a jew
and had asserted something he did not. I am yet to find an
originating source, but I doubt that Mohr was actually the origin of
the misquote given his tendency to simply take quotes from elsewhere
and use them with attribution. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;It
seems likely however that this quote was probably modified and then
published by one of the anti-jewish groups in the United States that
were operating at this time (as the British anti-jewish groups would
be more likely to know who Smith was given his high prominence in
nineteenth century British intellectual life and Mohr isn't likely
have got the quotation from a non-Anglophone publication) and
unfortunately; as I have pointed out in relation to several other
misquotes and supposed&lt;i&gt; 'jewish documents'&lt;/i&gt;, there are at least two
significant candidates (with access to the pages of anti-jewish
publications) who were operating at this time who were prone to do
this kind of thing (i.e. Eustace Mullins and Walter White Jr.).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;I
shall publish an update when and if I find anything else to do with
this particular quote whereby we can find an originating source or
further narrow down the time period it seems to have come into
existence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;(1)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/05/origin-of-goldwin-smith-quotation.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/05/origin-of-goldwin-smith-quotation.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(2) Goldwin
 Smith, &lt;i&gt;'The Jewish Question'&lt;/i&gt;, The Nineteenth Century, October 1881,
 Vol. 140, p. 1114&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(3) Gordon
 Mohr, 1982, &lt;i&gt;'The Satanic Counterfeit'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, CPA:
 Boring, p. 63&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(4) William
 Guy Carr, 1967,&lt;i&gt; 'Pawns in the Game'&lt;/i&gt;, 6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, St.
 George: Glendale, p. 72&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(5) Ibid,
 p. 83&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;In
614 AD the Byzantine Empire lost its spiritual centre when the
Persian Empire under Chosroes II and one of those who chronicled this
event in his &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;'Exomologesis'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; was a monk named Antiochus (usually
called Antiochus of Palestine or Antiochus Strategos) who was an
eyewitness to many the events that he describes. The interesting
thing about this chronicle; which tells of the woes suffered by the
Christians at the hands of the Persians and their allies, is that it
includes a fairly substantive mention of the treatment of the
Christians of Jerusalem by the jews.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;I
quote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'Thereupon
the vile Jews, enemies of the truth and haters of Christ, when they
perceived that the Christians were given over into the hands of the
enemy, rejoiced exceedingly, because they detested the Christians;
and they conceived an evil plan in keeping with their vileness about
the people. For in the eyes of the Persians their importance was
great, because they were the betrayers of the Christians. And in this
season then the Jews approached the edge of the reservoir and called
out to the children of God, while they were shut up therein, and said
to them: 'If ye would escape from death, become Jews and deny Christ;
and then ye shall step up from your place and join us. We will ransom
you with our money, and ye shall be benefited by us.' But their plot
and desire were not fulfilled, their labours proved to be in vain;
because the children of Holy Church chose death for Christ's sake
rather than to live in godlessness: and they reckoned it better for
their flesh to be punished, rather than their souls ruined, so that
their portion were not with the Jews. And when the unclean Jews saw
the steadfast uprightness of the Christians and their immovable
faith, then they were agitated with lively ire, like evil beasts, and
thereupon imagined another plot. As of old they bought the Lord from
the Jews with silver, so they purchased Christians out of the
reservoir; for they gave the Persians silver, and they bought a
Christian and slew him like a sheep.
The Christians however
rejoiced because they were being slain for Christ's sake and shed
their blood for His blood, and took on themselves death in return for
His death...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;When
the people were carried into Persia, and the Jews were left in
Jerusalem, they began with their own hands to demolish and burn such
of the holy churches as were left standing...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;How
many souls were slain in the reservoir of Mamel! How many perished of
hunger and thirst! How many priests and monks were massacred by the
sword! How many infants were crushed under foot, or perished by
hunger and thirst, or languished through fear and horror of the foe!
How many maidens, refusing their abominable outrages, were given over
to death by the enemy! How many parents perished on top of their own
children! How many of the people were bought up by the Jews and
butchered, and became confessors of Christ! How many persons,
fathers, mothers, and tender infants, having concealed themselves in
fosses and cisterns, perished of darkness and hunger! How many fled
into the Church of the Anastasis, into that of Zion and other
churches, and were therein massacred and consumed with fire! Who can
count the multitude of the corpses of those who were massacred in
Jerusalem!' &lt;/i&gt;(1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Now
it is not difficult to see that the above is a fairly vicious attack
on the jews by a Christian monastic (I am not elaborating on it
largely because the text is self-explanatory), but what is important
to emphasize is that regardless of the fact that Antiochus' text is
invective per se: it is also a chronicle of what happened by someone
who may or may not have been there and if he was not there then he
would have known eyewitness who had been. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
historicity of the account is also hard to dispute given the fact
that the Roman Empire; which then became the Byzantine Empire, had
long had an acrimonious relationship with its jewish subjects and
Emperors; both Christian and Pagan, had long regarded the jews with
suspicion and even outright hostility.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
suggests that one of two possible explanations to us in so far as the
jews could have been driven into the arms of the Persians by Imperial
persecution or the jews could have been against the Romans and
Byzantines throughout the centuries they had been part of the
successive empires with the events in Jerusalem just giving voice to
that sentiment after having had it passively or actively suppressed
due to their material circumstances for quite some time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
latter seems the more likely of the two explanations; although
scholars traditionally plump for the former as it neatly removes any
need to investigate whether the jews had any non-material motivations
for what they did, as it fits with jewish behaviour in the mid-late
Roman Empire (2) as well as jewish behaviour in Spain before, during
and after the Islamic conquests (where the jews were active traitors
to the Visigothic kingdoms and acted as a pro-Islamic fifth column
inside Spain's cities). (3) It is also worth noting; as I have argued
elsewhere, (4) that the jews had long had a friendly association with
the Parthian/Persian Empires in part because they contained large
numbers of jews who we know with some certainly held positions of
responsibility and influence. (5)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Indeed
jewish assistance for anti-Roman/Byzantine powers has quite some
history: predating even the formation of the Roman Empire and
stretching back to the last years of the Roman Republic! (6)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
situational context is important precisely because without it the
explanation that the jews were just persecuted into having nothing to
lose, but to help the Persians seems quite appealing. When you factor
in this situational context however: it becomes quite clear that the
jews are not interested in anything but either general vengeance
against Rome/Byzantium and/or using anti-Roman/Byzantine powers to
sweep away their imperial masters so that they can in time forge a
new jewish state.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
essence the jews weren't being oppressed by anyone in particular; to
be sure they had statutory laws of long-standing against them but
they were also afforded significant protection under these same laws,
and their betrayal and then murder of Christians at Jerusalem
(conducted as if it were a sport no less) then the defiling of its
churches goes well beyond the pale of simple&lt;i&gt; 'resentment against
persecution'&lt;/i&gt; and more into vengeance and the nationalistic thirst for
power and dominion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
ironic especially as jewish historians; such as Samuel Glassman, when
recounting the seventh century anti-jewish riots and jewish support
for the later Muslim invaders in both Asia Minor and Spain, do not
mention the catalyst event (jews killing Christians for
vengeance/sport in Jerusalem in 614 AD and also working with the
Persian Empire against the Byzantines). (7) Instead they mention the
effect (anti-jewish riots in Constantinople/Byzantium as well as the
wave of Byzantine legal repression of the jews that followed this)
and what they see as the concomitant jewish sympathy for Islam and
hatred of Christians due to this&lt;i&gt; 'unjust irrational persecution'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Glassman
and others are misrepresenting the situation quite considerably,
because they are citing everything but the founding event and then
representing the Byzantine dislike of jews as being ex nihilo so as
to fit into their broad narrative that the jews were unjustifiably
and irrationally persecuted for things they didn't do as opposed to
being rational prosecuted for things they most certainly did (i.e.
the anti-jewish riots and legislation were irrational because they
had no rational trigger [which we can clearly see that they did]).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;We
can thus see that Antiochus of Palestine's chronicle of the behaviour
of the jews towards the Christians is actually likely to be very
accurate; with the odd rhetorical flush perhaps, and that this
murderous and spiteful jewish behaviour was then the cause of a wave
of anti-jewish riots and legislation in the Byzantine Empire, which
then escalated over centuries with the jews actively helping the
armies of Islam leading to the slaughter of jewish communities across
Europe at the time of the First Crusade (which occurred; we should
remember, at the behest of the Byzantine Emperor).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;So
who ultimately caused jewish suffering in these later centuries?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
jews themselves.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(1) Frederick
 Conybeare, 1910, &lt;i&gt;'Antiochus Srategos: The Capture of Jerusalem in
 614 AD'&lt;/i&gt;, English Historical Review, Vol. 10, pp. 508-509&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(2) For
 example: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Eusb. Pamp. Ecc. Hist.
 4:2.1-5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;; Cassius Dio, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;68:32.1-3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;(3) Eliyahu
 Ashtor, 1973,&lt;i&gt; 'The Jews of Moslem Spain'&lt;/i&gt;, Vol. I, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;st&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Jewish Publishing Society of America: Philadelphia, pp.
 10-16; also see the following two articles:
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-28-jew-laws-of-erwig-part-i.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-28-jew-laws-of-erwig-part-i.html&lt;/a&gt;
 and
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-28-jew-laws-of-erwig-part-ii.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-28-jew-laws-of-erwig-part-ii.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(4)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/cassius-dio-on-jews-part-iii.html" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/05/cassius-dio-on-jews-part-iii.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(5) See
 Leon Poliakov, 2003, [1973], &lt;i&gt;'The History of Anti-Semitism'&lt;/i&gt;, Vol.
 II, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, University of Pennsylvania Press:
 Philadelphia, pp. 12-15&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(6) Adrienne
 Mayor, 2010,&lt;i&gt; 'The Poison King: The Life and Legend of Mithradates,
 Rome's Deadliest Enemy '&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Princeton
 University Press: Princeton, p. 341&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(7) Samuel
 Glassman, 1980,&lt;i&gt; 'Epic of Survival: Twenty-Five Centuries of
 Anti-Semitism'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Bloch: New York, p. 64&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;In
my previous article on the subject of Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez's
article-cum-chain letter &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;'All European Life Died in Auschwitz'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; I
simply re-wrote the text of the article to make it fit the actual
situation more appropriately than Rodriguez's original. (1) Now more
than that I think it is necessary to actually analyze what Rodriguez
has to say or rather; perhaps more appositely, what he claims.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
reason for this is simple: in that this article has been widely
disseminated and includes basic assumptions that underlie a large
amount of counter-Jihadi material that need to be challenged: as they
are more fundamentally erroneous as well as; ironically,
hypocritical. Indeed I would go so far as to argue that Rodriguez's
article is actually representative of an intellectual disease that
has afflicted some well-meaning people today.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;That
disease is very simply: the irrational love of the jews. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Otherwise
known as: Judeophilia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;What
do I mean by that?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Well
if we understand that the sine qua non of most right-wing and
patriotic ideas today is the supposition that the downfall of
European civilization was ultimately caused by the advent of the
Third Reich and the destruction that was World War Two; which Germany
supposedly started out of ambitions for world conquest, caused the
expansion of Communist rule. As well as greatly enhanced the
attractiveness of Marxist ideas to Westerners and non-Westerners
alike while simultaneously tainting right-wing and patriotic ideas;
as well as racialism and hereditarianism in science, with the
reflected tint of the supposed evils; inspired by so-called&lt;i&gt; 'crank
science'&lt;/i&gt;, that were visited on the world by National Socialism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
then informs us that World War Two and National Socialism have become
the twin evils about which right-wing and patriotic ideas today seek
to explain and answer, because they believe them to be a good part of
the reason why their ideas and visions of society have failed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;However
this is simply an excuse for their failure to; as Sun Tzu aptly put
it,&lt;i&gt; 'shape to fit the times'&lt;/i&gt;: the right-wing and patriotic groups
failed to learn from their experiences, they failed to recognize that
the political battlefield had changed and perhaps more fundamentally
they failed to evolve to meet that changing situation. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Right-wing
and patriotic ideas have so long been on the back foot not because
the ideas were lacking in appeal or because there weren't people
willing to listen to them, but rather because the people who styled
themselves right-wingers and/or patriots failed to understand the
evolution of technology, failed to adapt their message to fit the
changing society which encompassed new generations and even more
fundamentally did not have the courage of their convictions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;How
can a right-winger complain about the corruption of society or the
influence of the jews: when they are not prepared to become; as
Christians would describe it, &lt;i&gt;'living stones'&lt;/i&gt; of their political
faith. Beacons of light in the growing darkness if you will, because
only such beacons of light can inspire others to both make their way
to that light and also try to reproduce that light in themselves.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Anarchists
in the nineteenth century frequently talked of the difference between
the&lt;i&gt; 'propaganda of the word' &lt;/i&gt;and the&lt;i&gt; 'propaganda of the deed'&lt;/i&gt; often
arguing that a deed was worth thousands of words. I would naturally
agree with that but with the qualification that individuals carrying
out bombings don't cause intellectual and political revolutions, but
rather those living their lives in agreement with their ideas and
showing others what it means to be a right-winger and/or a patriot do
make such revolutions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
point is simple enough in that people; as exemplified by Rodriguez,
believe their own excuses about why they have failed without
understanding what businessmen call the &lt;i&gt;'root cause'&lt;/i&gt; of their
problem. Instead they seek to blame their failure on some group
and/or event that they feel aggrieved at in the belief that it&lt;i&gt;
'queered their pitch'&lt;/i&gt; to their target audience.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Now
the interesting thing about that is that it is that it is precisely
what orthodox history tells counter-Jihadis like Rodriguez the Nazis
claimed about the jews and the leftists in relation to Germany's loss
of World War One. Th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;is
is otherwise known to anyone who went through secondary or high
school as the&lt;i&gt; 'Stab-in-the-back'&lt;/i&gt; myth (i.e. the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;Dolchstoßlegende)
and while this characterisation has some truth to it: the&lt;i&gt; 'myth'&lt;/i&gt; is
not without some evidential foundation in the first instance and in
the second  it was not an unreasonable belief for the soldiers on the
ground or the German civilian population. (2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;Now
if; as the counter-Jihadis like Rodriguez believe, we wish to suppose
that the advent of the Third Reich and World War Two has caused them
and their predecessors to fail to successfully propagate right-wing
and/or patriotic ideas: then surely are they not creating their own
version of &lt;i&gt;'Stab-in-the-back'&lt;/i&gt; myth in order to explain why they have;
and keep, failing?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;Instead
of locating the &lt;i&gt;'root cause' &lt;/i&gt;of the problem: they have instead
created legend to explain why a particular group and historical event
have &lt;i&gt;'queered their pitch' &lt;/i&gt;to their would-be audience. However unlike
the German nationalists; and then later the NSDAP, after World War
One: the counter-Jihadis  unjustly (and bizarrely) blame those they
believe unjustly blamed the jews for their own failings. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;It
is certainly ironic that counter-Jihadis, right-wingers and patriots
so frequently try to blame their erstwhile confrères for their own
failures, but the belief that the advent of the Third Reich and that 
the necessary consequence of that was World War Two has also spawned
an almost Hegelian anti-thesis to traditional right-wing and/or
patriotic views on the subject of the jews. These; as I am sure the
reader well knows, have historically hovered between passive dislike
and outright hatred with every hue in-between represented.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;However
the centrality of the&lt;i&gt; 'Holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; of six million jews; allegedly
committed by the Third Reich between 1941 and 1945, to post-war
interpretations of World War Two; as well as acting as a significant
dose of rhetorical ex post facto justification, has meant that even
passive dislike of the jews has come to be associated with adhere to
the principles of National Socialism with one thus being an apologist
for the Third Reich and accordingly trying to justify the &lt;i&gt;'Holocaust'&lt;/i&gt;
in short rhetorical order.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;This
leaves counter-Jihadis; like Rodriguez, in something of a conundrum
in so far as they cannot; or rather do not wish to seem to, support
National Socialism, because they believe that it was National
Socialism rather than their own poorly-chosen actions (and in many
cases simple inaction) that caused their failure to propagate their
beliefs. However traditional right-wing and patriotic beliefs are
derogatory towards the jews in differing degrees, which means that
they risk alienating their natural allies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;To
solve it they needed to introduce a new understanding of right-wing
beliefs into the equation and the jewish right (i.e. the Zionists)
provided the perfect answer to the conundrum. That answer was simple:
you could style the jews as being a 'super-people' who invented
everything from the wheel to the computer and who Europe had blamed
for their own failures as opposed to looking for the&lt;i&gt; 'root cause' &lt;/i&gt;of
the failure in themselves.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;This
meant in practice that the counter-Jihadis could emphasize their
distance from National Socialism on the basis of the latter's
vehement dislike for the jews and also gain a ready-made number of
allies among the jews: who; as Israeli society is rather more
right-wing as a rule than European or American society, could provide
a steady stream of educated material to back up their other
arguments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;However
in forming this alliance the counter-Jihadis; like Rodriguez, ended
up going a lot further than they originally intended. They ended up
not just viewing the jews as a &lt;i&gt;'super-people'&lt;/i&gt;, but rather ended up
belittling their own people for not being like the jews and failing
to even consider that the jews could have provoked a reprisal or
performed a negative act.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;In
essence; to follow the expression of the common logical fallacy, the
counter-Jihadis not only slipped down the slope, but they veritably
tumbled down it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;The
end position that they have come to is what I have above termed:
Judeophilia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;In
other words the irrational love of the jews.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;The
reason that is apt is simple: counter-Jihadis; like Rodriguez, see
criticism of the jews as ipso facto irrational and a sign of a
diseased and/or jealous mind. They do not consider for a moment that
anti-jewish opinions and theses are as potentially justifiable as any
other, but rather they simply believe they cannot be so because they
are anti-jewish.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;Instead
they believe that the jews have been disproportionately responsible
for arbitrarily assigned positives with which the world has been
gifted. They believe that the jews are the best of Europe and that
accordingly any criticism of them has to be irrational and based on
jealousy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;In
other words: Judeophobia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;Judeophobia;
or the irrational hatred of jews, (which is incidentally a real term
increasingly used by scholars and writers on anti-Semitism) is
believed by the counter-Jihadis to be one of the touchstones of a
backward mind, but yet they do not consider that in considering the
jews as above other peoples they in the first instance uncritically
accept as gospel what the jews say about themselves and in the second
they engage in an essentially reactionary behaviour.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;What
do I mean by this second point?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;Well
very simply the counter-Jihadis; like Rodriguez, are simply reacting
to the traditional right-wing many-shaded dislike and suspicion of
jews by simply rejecting that and taking the polar opposite
viewpoint. They haven't considered the merits of the Judeophilic
argument; let alone those of the Judeophobic one, and have decided to
take a position in an emotive reaction to the normalisation of the
latter. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;Hence
they have reacted without thought as opposed to having made a
critical and informed decision ergo they can be aptly described as&lt;i&gt;
'reactionary'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;This
is clearly evidenced by Rodriguez's claim that the jews are a&lt;i&gt; 'chosen
people'&lt;/i&gt;; which is the jewish description of themselves and should not
as well as cannot be applied to the jews by non-jews unless said
non-jews have either converted to Judaism or have become Noahides,
(3) and that they produced a &lt;i&gt;'great and wonderful people who changed
the world'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;Now
I obviously disagree with Rodriguez's characterisation of the jews as
a&lt;i&gt; 'great and wonderful people'&lt;/i&gt;; and I have probably read and
researched a great deal more into jews and their culture than
Rodriguez has, but I cannot disagree with his assertion that the jews
&lt;i&gt;'changed the world'&lt;/i&gt;. Indeed I know of few people on either the
pro-jewish or anti-jewish sides of the debate who would disagree with
it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;However
our differences come when we assign a valuation to that change:
Rodriguez would argue it was wholly positive. Where-as I would take a
far more nuanced view that while the jews have naturally contributed
things of positive value to mankind: they have also contributed
disproportionately far more things of negative value to mankind
compared to any other group. I would also argue that the jewish&lt;i&gt;
'contribution to civilization'&lt;/i&gt;; as Cecil Roth styled it, has on been
balance rather negative as opposed to overwhelming positive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;That
Rodriguez's view is quite irrational is easily shown by pointing to
his use of a Nobel Prize winners comparison between jews and Muslims
as the centre-piece of his argument; and indeed the only thing
remotely factual in it, however his list is not only ludicrously
wrong (as it leaves out some jews and Muslims, leaves out the
Chemistry Nobel and includes others who were not jews or Muslims as
if they) (4) but it is an apples versus oranges comparison.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;What
do I mean by that?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;Very
simply the list isn't even comparing the same thing as it defines
jewishness biologically (hence the numerous jewish atheists,
second/third generation converts to Christianity with a jew
mother/grandmother or father/grandfather included in it) while it
defines Muslims as someone who born into or is an active adherent of
Islam.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;Clearly
then you can't compare a biological group to a religious group now
can you?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;This
is especially awful given that Rodriguez is essentially using the
opinion of a committee to be his barometer of contribution, which is
clearly erroneous as he is arguing for the total contribution of the
jews as opposed to the contribution of the jews over the last few
decades. Indeed; as Jan Biro has noted, (5) most of the jewish Nobel
Prize winners have had their prizes awarded since 1945: when
according to Rodriguez (and those like him) European culture and
civilization has been in a headlong rout under the avalanche of
leftist and &lt;i&gt;'Islamofascist'&lt;/i&gt; attacks on it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;Rather
incompatible: isn't it? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;To
explain briefly: if European civilization has been in a headlong rout
since 1945 under the assault of leftists and&lt;i&gt; 'Islamofascists'&lt;/i&gt;, but it
is during this time that the jews have been winning large numbers of
Nobel Prizes which obviously have a political element and rely on the
socio-cultural compatibility of their ideas with the culture
concerned (after all a chemistry paper that threw doubt on the&lt;i&gt;
'Holocaust' &lt;/i&gt;story could never win the Nobel Prize for Chemistry:
could it?). (6)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;Then
does this not suggest that the jews are likely winning Nobels at an
increased rate, because their arguments and theses are highly
compatible with the political ideas of said headlong rout of European
culture and civilization?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Why
yes it does.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;So
does that not suggest to Rodriguez: who might be playing a
disproportionately significant role in the headlong rout of European
culture and civilization?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;After
all the Third Reich fell in 1945: who does Rodriguez think might have
benefited most from that in terms of their short and medium term
prospects given the amount of empathy that was showered on them for
&lt;i&gt;'surviving'&lt;/i&gt; the &lt;i&gt;'Holocaust'&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;That's
right: the jews.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
essence from this we can quickly see that Rodriguez's logic actually
bounces back against him as he is forced into a position where the
jews are linked to the headlong rout of European culture and
civilization as being disproportionately responsible for it, because
it is in said period of headlong rout that they have been at their
most dominant as opposed to being passively and/or actively
suppressed by the state and society in general (when European culture
and civilization was in the ascendant).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;I
also note with not a little humour that in seeking to push jews to
the fore Rodriguez is actively downplaying European achievement. By
suggesting that the jews have disproportionately contributed to the
advancement of humanity: Rodriguez forgets that the European people;
who are not jewish, have contributed a vast amount more and
significantly more disproportionately than the jews.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;What
about them then?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Europe
has been the birthplace of most technology (past and present), most
political ideas (past and present), the only civilization to create
and us the empirical method, produced the greatest warriors and the
greatest art that humanity has ever known.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Yet
Rodriguez fails to mention that: he only signs the hymns of jewish
not European achievement.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
jews are not part of that great history and indeed many of Europe's
greatest minds have turned their attention to the jews in the spirit
of empirical investigation only to be disgusted, appalled and
repelled at what they saw starring back at them. They saw only
fanatical hatred, jealously and greed starring back at them: not the
peace-loving super-people that Rodriguez believes the jews to be.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Were
these men and women irrational haters of the jews as Rodriguez would
likely suppose?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Could
Goebbels have found a spiritual ancestor in Cicero?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Could
Himmler have found a spiritual ancestor in Voltaire?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Could
Hitler have found a spiritual ancestor in Luther?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;No:
I don't think so.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Indeed
the simplest possible solution that all these men undertook to study
the jews and found them not only wanting, but a clear and present
danger to all that they held dear.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;There
is no conspiracy, no jealously and no psychological abnormality here:
only empirical investigation leading to one disturbing conclusion
about the jews, which required action sooner rather than later on the
part of the investigators.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
seeking to paint the jews as being a&lt;i&gt; 'super-people'&lt;/i&gt; Rodriguez
essentially blackens the name of his own people and in doing so his
writing become less a counter-Jihadi call-to-arms to a sleeping
Europe, but rather a counter-Jihadi attempt to emasculate a sleeping
Europe by demanding they fight on the side of the school bully so
that they can feel less guilty about punching him in the face once.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;From
this then we can see that Rodriguez is not only not a European
nationalist or a European patriot, but rather one of those
guilt-induced European liberals who has decided that has to sleep
with the enemy in order to pay of the debt of his ancestors.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
only difference is: he is in bed with the jews as opposed to the
Muslims.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;(1) This
 is available at the following address: 
 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/all-european-life-died-in-auschwitz.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/04/all-european-life-died-in-auschwitz.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(2)&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On
 this see: Udo Walendy, 1981, &lt;i&gt;'Truth for Germany: The Guilt Question
 of the Second World War'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Institute for
 Historical Review: Torrance&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(3) The
 reason for this is that Rodriguez is effectively calling himself and
 his people sub-human and this is clearly incompatible with
 nationalistic, right-wing or patriotic thought.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;(4) See
 the following articles which have independently treated this
 subject:
 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/jewish-versus-muslim-nobel-prize.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/12/jewish-versus-muslim-nobel-prize.html&lt;/a&gt;
 and
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-jewish-internet-defense-force-cant.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-jewish-internet-defense-force-cant.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(5)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.davidduke.com/mp3/The%20Jewish%20Bias%20of%20the%20Nobel%20Prize.pdf" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://www.davidduke.com/mp3/The%20Jewish%20Bias%20of%20the%20Nobel%20Prize.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;(6) On
 this see the following articles:
 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/jews-and-nobel-prize-fantasy-versus.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/12/jews-and-nobel-prize-fantasy-versus.html&lt;/a&gt;;
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/01/jews-and-nobel-prize-fantasy-versus.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/01/jews-and-nobel-prize-fantasy-versus.html&lt;/a&gt;;
 
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/jews-and-nobel-prize-fantasy-versus_5.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/01/jews-and-nobel-prize-fantasy-versus_5.html&lt;/a&gt;
 and
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/why-jewish-achievement-lists-are.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/02/why-jewish-achievement-lists-are.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The
German-born Christian who we know as Salvian is not a well-known
fifth century author of the classical world, but he is an interesting
one given that he is one of the earliest examples of militant
Christian ideas of the equality and justice. Essentially Salvian was
what we would now call a socialist; if not a communist, and he
refused to back down from his beliefs. In the last sense regardless
of your personal views on socialist and communist ideas we can admire
Salvian's steadfast sense of purpose precisely because he never
compromised on what he believed was fundamentally right.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
many senses Salvian is the anti-thesis of many modern political
thinkers as well as Christians in that he showed a great deal of
spine in his reasoned intractability. While in comparison many of
those who profess to have strong political and religious beliefs
today have almost no spine whatsoever and are less intractable and
more undefinable in the sense that an opponent of theirs has a great
deal of difficulty in pinning them down to any specific position per
se. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Salvian
in his lifetime was not close to major political figures, but he was
a significant figure in Christian intellectual circles and worked
closely with several French bishops such as Hilary of Arles and
Eucherius of Lyons. That said Salvian's influence and ideas are often
seen; although usually by proxy, in the interpretation of the works
and ideas of Saint Augustine by Christian authors up to the present
time which tends; as he did, to stress Augustine's focus on
asceticism and belief that no government was above the law of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=8878064790402161553" name="De_gubernatione_Dei_.28De_praesenti_judicio.29"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;We
know Salvian was a fairly prolific author, but only two of his works
and several letters have come down to us. It is in his treatise &lt;i&gt;'De
gubernatione Dei'&lt;/i&gt; (lit.&lt;i&gt; 'The Government of God'&lt;/i&gt;) that we find Salvian
commenting on the jews thus:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'Surely
then, since our most indulgent Lord shows himself always more prone
to mercy than to punishment, even though in punishing a part of the
Jewish host by his divine censure he gave some scope to judgement and
severity, yet his love claimed the greater portion of the people - a
special and peculiar act of mercy to countless men that the
punishment might not destroy all who were implicated in the guilt.'
&lt;/i&gt;(1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is then needs to be understood in the context of his later comment in
relation to Saint Paul and the jews:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'Since
he so followed Christ, let us consider which of us seems to be a true
follower of the apostle. He writes of himself first of all that he
never gave offence to any, but in all things showed himself the
minister of God, in much patience, in affliction, in necessities, in
blows, in imprisonments, in stripes.
Elsewhere, comparing himself with others, he says: "How
is it, wherein so ever any is bold (I speak foolishly) I am bold
also: I speak as a fool, I am more; in labours more abundant, in
prisons more frequent, in stripes above measure, in deaths oft. Of
the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. Thrice was I
beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck."'
&lt;/i&gt;(2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is then clarified further by Salvian's comments on the nature of the
jewish people and their relationship with God:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'The
twelve tribes of the Hebrews, when they were of old chosen by God,
received two holy names, for they were called the people of God, and
Israel. We read: "Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel,
and I will testify against thee." Once the Jews bore both these
titles, now they have neither. They who long since left off the
worship of God cannot be called God's people, nor can they who denied
his Son be given a name that means "Seeing God." So it is
written: "But Israel does not know, my people doth not
consider." For this reason on another occasion our God spoke of
the people of the Hebrews to the prophet, saying: "Call his
name, Not Beloved." And speaking to the Jews themselves: "You
are not my people and I am not your God." Moreover, he himself
showed clearly why he spoke thus about them, for he said: "They
have forsaken the Lord, the fountain of living waters." And
again: "They have rejected the word of the Lord and there is no
wisdom in them."' &lt;/i&gt;(3)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
addition to:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'For
the whole human race is rushing headlong into eternal punishment by
the very course that the Scriptures describe. First we kindle the
fire, then add fuel to the flames, and lastly enter the flames that
we have prepared. When does man first kindle eternal fire for
himself? Surely when he first begins to sin. But when does he add
fuel to the flames? When he heaps up sins upon sins. When shall he
enter the everlasting fire? When he has already completed the
irrevocable account of wickedness by the increase of his sins, as our
Saviour said to the leaders of the Jews: "Fill ye up then the
measure of your fathers, ye serpents, ye generation of vipers,"
The men whom the Lord himself told to fill up the measure were not
far from completing the full number of their sins. Because they were
no longer worthy of salvation, they filled up the number of
iniquities by which they were to perish.' &lt;/i&gt;(4)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Now
in the above I have quoted four extracts from Salvian's writing which
deal with the jews one after the other. The reason for this is very
simple: in that each individual bit of text qualifies Salvian's
attitude to the jews appreciably. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Salvian
starts out in the first piece of quoted text pointing out that the
jews were divinely censured by God who decided to kill a goodly
number of them for transgressing his instructions/commandments to
them, but proceeded to forgive most of them for doing so (i.e. the
mass of the jews as opposed to the leaders/ringleaders) and thus
spares most of the jews his chastisement. However in doing so he; to
Salvian's mind, is clearly reminding the jews that they need not
always be the chosen people and should they suitably anger God then
they will suffer terribly and possibly even be wiped out altogether.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
the second piece of quoted text Salvian is introducing the conduct of
the jews in relation to Saint Paul into the equation. Here we can see
Salvian recounting the persecution, suffering and torment of Saint
Paul at the hands of the jews and thus begins; in effect, to
illustrate the fall of jews from divine favour as they have once
again rejected God's instructions/commandments in favour of their own
instructions/commandments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
then leads to Salvian's qualification in the third piece of quoted
text where the jews are said to have been finally deprived of their
status as the &lt;i&gt;'chosen nation' &lt;/i&gt;of God and that God has abandoned them
to their fate as being unrighteous and undeserving of his forbearance
and grace. Salvian clearly tells us that in his view: a people who
name themselves as the ones who can&lt;i&gt; 'see God' &lt;/i&gt;cannot retain that name
when they reject that God's ultimate messenger because they were&amp;nbsp;willfully&amp;nbsp;blind to that status.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Essentially
Salvian is telling us that the jews are outcast and cannot be
admitted into God's good books until such time as they accept Jesus
as their Messiah and then beg forgiveness for their past errors.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Salvian
then; in the fourth piece of quoted text, makes it abundantly clear
that jews are destined for hell-fire and brimstone unless they do
just this. Indeed he even suggests that many jews; although
necessarily not all, are now incapable of receiving God's
forgiveness, because they are the; oft-quoted, &lt;i&gt;'generations of
vipers'&lt;/i&gt;. This means in effect that Salvian is arguing that the jews
are the active servants of the devil and are thus the principle
opponents of all Christians in spiritual warfare and are to be hunted
down and treated as active enemy combatants where-ever they are found
by the Christian faithful.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;To
confirm this we should note that Salvian argues that the Vandals;
then ravaging the Western Roman Empire, were acting the part of the
chastiser of the Christians, because they had; like jews of old,
turned their face from God and thus he had also turned his face from
them. (5) However unlike the jews this could be rectified, but like
the jews Christians should beware because of the potential that God's
wrath could be awakened as it had been by the jewish rejection and
crucifixion of Jesus. (6)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Indeed
Salvian also refers to the perpetual jewish hatred of Jesus  as well
as their responsibility for the crime of deicide (the murder of a
God). (7) Salvian also vehemently makes the point that the pagans
have not murdered the Saints, but rather the jews have done so. (8) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
indicates Salvian's deep-seated hostility towards the jews as being a
group defined by national origin as well as faith, who; in his view,
actively do the work of the devil and are accordingly to be expunged
at every opportunity unless they truly convert to Christianity and
ask forgiveness for their many sins. It also fundamentally shows that
Salvian was; like Martin Luther after him, unable to show much
compassion for the jews as a people and regarded them very much as
his active enemies who wouldn't by en-large see the light of  Christian
reason and so thus needed to be put to the sword.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(1) Salv.
 De gub. 1:11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(2) Ibid.
 3:4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(3) Ibid.
 4:1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(4) Ibid.
 4:8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(5) Ibid.
 7:7&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(6) Ibid.
 7:8-11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(7) Ibid.
 7:4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(8) Ibid.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Nestorius
is a fairly famous character in Christian history given that it is to
his name that we attach one of the major Christian sects of the late
Roman era: the Nestorians. This description is however problematic in
part because so-called Nestorian Christianity was not really that
different from orthodox Christianity: the difference was rather
meekly that the orthodox Christians rejected Nestorius' teachings
(which anticipated a significant number of Protestant arguments
especially in around the so-called&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'Marian Cult'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;) en toto while the
Nestorian Christians accepted him as one of their many teachers but
did not elevate him to a position of intellectual primary within
their sect. (1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Nestorius
himself was the fifth century archbishop of Byzantium/Constantinople,
but only held the position for five years before being deposed by the
Emperor Theodosius II in 431 AD. Perhaps predictably we have very
little of Nestorious' voluminous writings have come down to us with
one only of his works; &lt;i&gt;'The Bazaar of Heracleides'&lt;/i&gt;, has come down to
us more or less complete in addition to a few of his short missives
to Pope Celestine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
concern of most writers on the subject of Nestorius is usually in and
around his rivalry with Saint Cyril (the famous Bishop of
Alexandria); who was also responsible for the murder (quite possibly
conducted by a converted jew) (2) of the pagan neo-Platonic
philosopher and mathematician Hypathia, as well as what of his
theological ideas we can discern from his few extant works and what
his ecclesiastical enemies claimed about his arguments and
intellectual positions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;However
what has been almost universally ignored is Nestorius' several
comments on the jews in his work, which I shall highlight and analyze
in this article. For ease of reference for the reader I have used the
commonly available edition of Nestorius' &lt;i&gt;'The Bazaar of Heracleides'&lt;/i&gt;
by Driver and Hodgson. (3)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Nestorius
in fact mentions the jews in the first few lines of&lt;i&gt; 'The Bazaar of
Heracleides'&lt;/i&gt; when he is outlining what he believes enemies of
orthodox Christianity argue. To wit:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'Wherefore
the Jews do not admit that he is Christ.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;But
the Jews do not confess that he is Christ because of the Cross and
the death, in that they look for the advent of Christ in all great
glory and dominion.'&lt;/i&gt; (4)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is then clarified by what Nestorius says a few pages later:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'The
Sabellians. Among them indeed are also those who deny that God the
Word exists in ousia and who say only that the name 'God the Word' is
that command: He spoke and it became. But thus also they predicate
the Father and the Holy Spirit in name alone; so in short they agree
rather with the Jews than with Christians.'&lt;/i&gt; (5)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Now
what does Nestorius seem to be saying here?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Well
very simply Nestorius is trying to add a qualification to the
orthodox view of the fact that jews rejected Christ and then
crucified him: thus making them responsible en bloc for the crimes of
deicide (the murder of a God). What he is pointing out is that the
jews killed Jesus because they simply did not believe that he was
their long awaited Messiah and that when Christ comes again in the
last days then; Nestorius believed, the jews would correct their
error.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;That
is perhaps the obvious interpretation of what Nestorius is saying,
but I would correct Driver and Hodgson's translation here because
they have unintentionally altered the meaning of what Nestorius is
saying by using the Greek rather the Hebrew term (i.e.&lt;i&gt; 'Christ'
&lt;/i&gt;rather than &lt;i&gt;'Messiah'&lt;/i&gt;). The term&lt;i&gt; 'Christ' &lt;/i&gt;effectively chastens what
Nestorius is saying, because of its generally positive connotation in
Western thought compared to the generally neutral one for the term&lt;i&gt;
'Messiah'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is because when we use the correct term &lt;i&gt;'Messiah' &lt;/i&gt;then the simple
interpretation changes from Nestorius saying that the jews will
realise their error when Christ comes again (which is a relatively
benign message) to the far more Orthodox Christian message that the
jews rejected Jesus because he did not fit in their notion of what
the Messiah should be (which is a somewhat anti-jewish message).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;To
prove that all we need do is but look at the rather unusual wording
that:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'Jews
do not confess that he is Christ because of the Cross and the death,
in that they look for the advent of Christ in all great glory and
dominion.'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Which
then changes (per my correction) to:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'Jews
do not confess that he was the Messiah because of the Cross and the
death, in that they look for the advent of the Messiah in all great
glory and dominion.'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;We
should note that the precise wording that the jews &lt;i&gt;'look for the
advent of the Messiah in all great glory and domination'&lt;/i&gt; is actually
a fairly accurate rendering of jewish; not Christian, conceptions of
the Messiah. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
other words to a Christian: Jesus was the Messiah who died on the
cross to save the world, but to the jews the Messiah is judged not by
his death and the saving of souls. Rather the Messiah is judged by
the fact that when he comes as Elijah reborn: he was lead the jews to
great military glory and thus dominion over the world (hence&lt;i&gt; 'great
glory'&lt;/i&gt; [i.e. conquering the non-jews] and [great] &lt;i&gt;'dominion'&lt;/i&gt; [i.e.
conquering the world]). If a person claiming to be the Messiah didn't
do that then according to the jews then he simply wasn't the Messiah
in the first place.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is reinforced by the fact that Nestorius is trying to place the
fundamental beliefs of Christian sects and opponents of Christianity
in their proper context so that they can be objectively examined.
This would mean that interpreting the passage in the sense of the
jews realizing their error when the Second Coming of Christ occurred
would be necessarily be out of place, but interpreting the passage as
to why the jews refused to credit the fact that Jesus was the Messiah
fits the rest of Nestorius' text perfectly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Thus
we can already see that Nestorius; in spite of appearances, was not
exactly complimentary towards the jews. While in the second of the
two passages we can also see that Nestorius is effectively; if
concisely, berating a Christian sect called the Sabellians for
believing as jews do and not as Christians do.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Nestorius'
general hostility to the jews is further confirmed by another comment
he makes about their responsibility for the trial and crucifiction of
Jesus. To wit:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'But
by those who pass for orthodox these things are said, that he is of
the very nature of the Father, impassible and without needs and
unchangeable and immutable, and then, as the Jews mocked, calling him
Christ, and surely crucified him'&lt;/i&gt;. (6)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;It
should be noted that this particular comment is buried in a lengthy
discussion of the&lt;i&gt; 'divine nature'&lt;/i&gt; of the Father and the Son by
Nestorius and in which he signally fails; while attacking just about
everything else the orthodox Christians of the time argued (i.e.
those who agreed with Saint Cyril), to dispute or even criticise the
comment that the jews mocked and crucified Jesus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
isn't a positive statement of Nestorius' opinions on the jews of
course (in spite of believing Jesus to have been a jew), (7) but the
notable absence of criticism of that particular orthodox proposition
directly suggests that Nestorius found nothing to criticise in it,
because that is what he himself believed and argued was the case.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;That
said Nestorius; like Martin Luther in his&lt;i&gt; 'On the Jews and their
Lies'&lt;/i&gt;, did allow the possibility; which was required by the basic
tenants of Christianity, that jews could turn against their nature
per se, because they were first men and that if a prophet of old were
to rise up among them (in which role he envisions the Christian
clergy) then some of them could be saved. (8)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;But
once again Nestorius clearly regards the jews as the bitter enemies
of Christianity as he tells us that:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'For
not even Paul, when he was stoning Stephen with the stoning Jews, was
then an Apostle but when he removed himself afar from stoning.'&lt;/i&gt; (9)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;We
can see clearly in the above that jews; in Nestorius' view, were the
great persecutors and enemies of Christians and hardly their friends
as some have wished to read Nestorius' thinking. Add to that the fact
that we have a reference to a homily that Nestorius explicitly
composed against jews (although not the actual text) (10) then it is
clear that Nestorius was actually a strident enemy of the jews albeit
something of a moderate in the fifth century world of fervently
anti-jewish Christianity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(1) Charles
 Freeman, 2009, &lt;i&gt;'A New History of Early Christianity'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Yale University Press: New Haven, p. 306&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(2) On
 this see the following article:
 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/hypathia-of-alexandria-victim-of-jews.html" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/03/hypathia-of-alexandria-victim-of-jews.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(3) G.
 Driver, Leonard Hodgson (Eds. and Trans.), 1925,&lt;i&gt; 'The Bazaar of
 Heracleides'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Clarendon Press: Oxford&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(4) Ibid,
 p. 8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(5) Ibid,
 pp. 43-44&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(6) Ibid,
 p. 94&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(7) Ibid,
 pp. 99; 202&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(8) Ibid,
 pp. 376-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;377&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(9) Friedrich
 Loofs, 1905,&lt;i&gt; 'Nestoriana: Die Fragmente des Nestorius'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Max Niemeyer: Halle, Frg. 253 (cf. Friedrich Loofs, 1904,&lt;i&gt;
 'Die Überlieferung und Anordnung der Fragmente des Nestorius'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Max Niemeyer: Halle and Friedrich Loofs, 1914, &lt;i&gt;'Nestorius
 and His Place in the History of Christian Doctrine'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Cambridge University Press: Cambridge for good general
 background on the fragments and Nestorius respectively)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(10) Loofs,&lt;i&gt;
 'Nestoriana'&lt;/i&gt;, Op. Cit., Frg. 254&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Eutropius
is not a name well-know to many outside the scholarly realms of the
Classics and as such his comments on the jews; or rather in those
instances where Roman history crossed with jewish history, are often
forgotten. This is in part because Eutropius' only know work; his
Compendium of Roman History, is largely just a summary of what was
known or believed about history to that point in time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
isn't helped by Eutropius' distance; in terms of time elapsed, from
most of the events that he describes, but never-the-less his comments
about the jews should be brought to the fore once more so that we may
be complete in our investigation of ancient and classical authors who
commented on the jews.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;However
before we look at what he has to say about them we should explain
that Eutropius was not a man of small station in the Roman Empire in
his lifetime as he served the Emperor Julian faithfully as his
secretary and then served in a significant administrative capacity up
to at least the Emperor Valens. This gives additional weight to what
Eutropius has to say in part because he; as a member of the Imperial
household, would have had access to a wide range of sources that he
could condense and would have been able to very easily check the
sources of claims before deciding whether to credit them or not.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
makes Eutropius a very useful &lt;i&gt;'fact check'&lt;/i&gt; if you like, but it also
makes him a difficult author to use if he was our only source for a
particular claim. Hence historians tend to use Eutropius more as a&lt;i&gt;
'fact check' &lt;/i&gt;and a guide to Roman historical thinking than a source
in his own right.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Having
described Eutropius as an individual and also commented on the use of
his work by historians: we can then move on to what Eutropius has to
say about the jews. The answer to that is that he; because of his
purpose to write a summary of Roman history, only touches on the jews
twice in the course of the Compendium.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
first mention that Eutropius makes of the jews is as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'Shortly
after he subdued the Itureans and Arabians; and, on entering Syria,
rewarded Seleucia, a city near Antioch, with independence, because it
had not admitted King Tigranes. To the inhabitants of Antioch he
restored their hostages. On those of Daphne, being charmed with the
beauty of the spot and the abundance of water, he bestowed a portion
of land, in order that their grove might be enlarged. Marching from
thence to Judea, he took Jerusalem, the capital, in the third month;
twelve thousand of the Jews being slain, and the rest allowed to
surrender on terms. After these achievements, he returned into Asia,
and put an end to this most tedious war. '&lt;/i&gt; (1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is then followed and clarified by the following comment:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'In
the six hundred and ninetieth year from the building of the city, in
the consulate of Decimus Junius Silanus and Lucius Muraena, Metellus
triumphed on account of Crete, Pompey for the Piratic and Mithridatic
wars. No triumphal procession was ever equal to this; the sons of
Mithridates, the son of Tigranes, and Aristobulus, king of the Jews,
were led before his car; a vast sum of money, an immense mass of gold
and silver, was carried in front. At this time there was no war of
any importance throughout the world.'&lt;/i&gt; (2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;What
Eutropius is referring to here is the conquest of the near east by
the famous General Pompey as part of the end-game of the prolonged
Roman campaign against King Mithridates of Pontus and King Tigranes
of Armenia, which were then and are now more commonly called the
Mithridatic Wars. One of the countries which aligned with Mithridates
and Tigranes was Judea; under King Aristobulus II, and which was
brought under Roman control by Pompey's destruction of the
Mithridatic armies (although it was not ruled by a Roman governor
till the time of the Emperor Vespasian). (3)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Eutropius'
comments however do have a slight anti-jewish tinge to them in that
Pompey showed great favour to most other cities and countries that
had aligned with Mithridates and Tigranes, but then in the case of
the jews: he slaughters twelve thousand of them, forces them to beg
for their lives and then promptly marches their king off to be
humiliated in his Triumph in Rome.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
suggests that the jews were somewhat different to cities like Antioch
that had sided with Mithridates and Tigranes precisely because Pompey
shows mercy to them, but shows very little towards the jews.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;We
also should note the interesting addition of Aristobulus to the sons
of Mithridates and Tigranes as part of the central element of
&lt;i&gt;'defeated enemies of Rome' &lt;/i&gt;in Pompey's triumphal procession. This
strongly suggests that either Aristobulus had dared to defy Rome
after his side had been beaten or that Pompey wanted to teach the
jews; who we know were close allies of Mithridates (as many of them
were in Pontus), a particularly harsh lesson as part of Mithridates'
inner circle of confederates with Tigranes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Either
solution works with the former being the more likely as it includes
less assumptions about Pompey's mindset than the latter. That said
the latter is strongly supported by the fact Pompey had Aristobulus
poisoned on his way home to Judea (4) and then had his son beheaded
at Antioch (5) in order to make sure the jews got the message (which;
as history informs us, they did not).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Regardless
of which solution is; in fact, the truth: we should note that
Eutropius very clearly depicts the jews as the particular enemies of
Rome. A fact that cannot have been lost on his readers given that at
the time of the writing of the Compendium: the jews were numerous and
played a powerful role in Rome, while the bodies of Mithridates and
Tigranes were dust.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
slight anti-jewish tinge to Eutropius' compendium is also indicated
by the fact that he does not credit anything done by the jews to be
worthy of the label&lt;i&gt; 'civilized'&lt;/i&gt;, but rather states that only when
outsiders have built cities in Palestine: have they been worthy of
note and become great hubs of intellectual and commercial activity.
(6)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;All-in-all
Eutropius' mentions of the jews are few, but considering what he says
and also the environment in which he said it: it is very clear that
Eutropius had no particular love for the jews and regarded them very
simply as the enemies of Rome with little to no capacity for building
creditable civilizations.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(1) Eutro.
 6:14&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(2) Ibid.
 6:16&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(3) Ibid.
 7:19&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(4) Jospeh.
 Bell. Jud. 1:9.1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(5) Ibid.
 1:9.2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(6) Eutro.
 7:10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
</description><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SemiticControversies/~3/nL7NA5W9f5g/eutropius-on-jews.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Karl Radl)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/04/eutropius-on-jews.html</feedburner:origLink></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8878064790402161553.post-8188822674974860472</guid><pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2013-05-14T18:41:39.446-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Zionism</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Islam</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">propaganda</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">holocaust</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Islam</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">jews</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Holocaust Industry</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">George Patton</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism 2.0</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Nobel Prizes</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">All European Life Died in Auschwitz</category><title>All European Life Died in Auschwitz: A Reinterpretation</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
Recently a friend of
mine emailed the rhetorical chain letter-cum-article &lt;i&gt;'All European
Life Died in Auschwitz' &lt;/i&gt;by  Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez  that was
written in 2008. I thought that; as I've seen the article re-posted
and bandied about a lot on conservative and anti-Islamic forums, I
would issue a rhetorical reinterpretation of Rodriguez's nonsensical
article correcting its many historical blunders and focusing on the
true culprits as opposed to just assuming their re-imagination of
their own past and present is accurate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
I should note that I have removed Rodriguez's list of Nobel claimants given that it is firstly
incorrect in whom it lists as both jewish and Muslim and secondly it
is completely wrong even as a simple comparison as I have been at
pains to point out elsewhere. (1) Also it is difficult to replicate
in part because unlike the list of jewish Nobel Prize winners: the
list of European prize winners is far longer and more illustrious. (2)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
I hope that you; my
reader, find the below reinterpretation interesting and dare I say
it: fun.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;All European Life Died
in Auschwitz&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;By&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Karl Radl&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
I walked down the
street in Berlin and suddenly discovered a terrible truth: Europe
died in Auschwitz. We didn't kill six million Jews, but got saddled
with the blame for doing it anyway. Instead of burning them in the
fires of Auschwitz we allowed them to take control of our culture,
thought, creativity and talent. We didn't destroy the chosen people,
but we did allow them to destroy us.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The destructive
contribution of these people is felt in all areas of life: science,
art, international trade, and above all, in the moral compass of the
world. These are the people who didn't burn.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
And these people lead
us; through the&amp;nbsp;pretense&amp;nbsp;of tolerance and because they had gulled us
into trying to prove that we were cured of the disease of Nazism, to
open our gates to millions of non-Europeans who brought us stupidity,
ignorance, religious extremism, poverty and crime due to an
unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
They have blown up
trains and turned our beautiful European cities into third world
slums: drowning in filth, crime and vice of every kind.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Shut up in the houses
that they receive free from the government they ape the chosen people
who brought them here: they plan the murder and destruction of their
native hosts.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
And thus; in our
misery, we have exchanged our ancestral culture for  gay pride
marches and anti-racist witch hunts, economic self-determination for
financial slavery to Israel, creative skill for destructive skill,
intelligence for backwardness and superstition.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
We have exchanged the
pursuit of knowledge of our European ancestors and their talent for
building a better future for their children in addition to their
pioneering determination to what was right regardless of the cost.
For the modus operandi of the chosen people who pursue
self-enrichment and personal gratification purely at the expense of
others, which includes both us and our children.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
What a terrible mistake
was made by miserable Europe.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The Jews are promoting
brain-washing children in Holocaust Museums, teaching their children
the virtue of killing ours and simply not to care if the victim is
not Jewish.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The Jews blow up ships,
assassinate people in other countries and bomb publishing houses.
There  is not a single living European who has destroyed a synagogue,
but yet there is not a single Jew who protests the killing of
Europeans.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The Jews routinely
traffic slaves and their leaders call our epoch the time of their
eternal victory, while proclaiming that in the near future every Jew
will rule over every non-Jew.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Jews
must ask &lt;i&gt;'what can they do for mankind'&lt;/i&gt; before they can ask that
mankind forgive them for the Holocaust Industry.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Regardless
of your feelings about the crisis between Israel, the Palestinians
and their Arab neighbours: even if you believe there is more
culpability on the side of the Palestinians and the Arabs, then the
following four lines says it all:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'The
Jews were only forced to desist from their nastiness and clean up the
mess by the threat of the butt ends of rifles. Of course, I know the
expression 'lost tribes of Israel' applied to the tribes which
disappeared -- not to the tribe of Judah from which the current sons
of bitches are descended. However, it is my personal opinion that
this too is a lost tribe -- lost to all decency.'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;- General
 George Patton&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;It
is a matter of history that General Patton warned us that the chosen
people were preparing to use a Big Lie to assure their own
self-enrichment, self-gratification and cultural domination for years
to come. While to paraphrase what General Dwight Eisenhower told us:
we should get everything on record now, because down the road of
history someone will get up and say that the Holocaust Industry never
happened.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;It
is now more than seventy years after the Second World War in Europe
ended. Why is Europe still paying for atrocities it never committed?
Why is the United States alone; with crime and poverty rampant
domestically, still giving Israel at least 2.8 billion dollars a
year? Why is Israel not paying for its well-documented atrocities?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Does
not all of this violent injustice come from the fantasy that millions
of Jews were burned in the fires of Auschwitz?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Yes:
it does.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;(1) Dealt with in the following articles:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/jewish-versus-muslim-nobel-prize.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/12/jewish-versus-muslim-nobel-prize.html&lt;/a&gt;;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-jewish-internet-defense-force-cant.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-jewish-internet-defense-force-cant.html&lt;/a&gt;;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/why-jewish-achievement-lists-are.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/02/why-jewish-achievement-lists-are.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(2)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/jews-and-nobel-prize-fantasy-versus_5.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/01/jews-and-nobel-prize-fantasy-versus_5.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
</description><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SemiticControversies/~3/14DEV6ZbRh4/all-european-life-died-in-auschwitz.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Karl Radl)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/04/all-european-life-died-in-auschwitz.html</feedburner:origLink></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8878064790402161553.post-5830830191312747523</guid><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:23:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2013-04-22T20:23:18.161-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Joshua Tractenberg</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ritual Murder</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">black magic</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Italy</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jewish Magic</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Francois Prelati</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alchemy</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Judaism</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jewish Ritual Murder</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Satanism</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">France</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Gilles de Rais</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">homosexuality</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism 2.0</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Occult</category><title>The Crimes of Gilles de Rais and the Jews</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The horrific crimes of
the 15&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; century French aristocrat; Gilles de Rais, are
well known to the general reader, but aside from this  image of
Gilles de Rais; or &lt;i&gt;'Bluebeard'&lt;/i&gt; as he came to be known in French
literature, (1) they have several aspects to them which are not so
widely known.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In the first instance
there are some grounds for doubting  Gilles' actual crimes in that
the ecclesiastical court that tried him (and recommend his case to
the secular court for sentencing [i.e. for his execution]) was not
exactly disinterested and the actual reason for bringing him to court
(his violation of a Church's sanctity by seizing a priest during mass
with that priest having cheated him out of a piece of property) (2)
was obviously nothing more than a pretext. The case itself seems to
have a sub-text of political motives; hence the pride of place of the
charge of heresy and not child murder/witchcraft in the original
indictment, (3) relating to the Duke of Brittany and the Bishop of
Nantes' attempts to extract land from the increasing bankrupt Gilles.
Hence Gilles' offer of large bequests to the church and request to
join the Carmelite monks  (4) can be interpreted as an attempt to buy
his way out a political trial and preserve an inheritance for his
daughter.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In the second Gilles
only confessed; such as his confession may be termed one, when he was
told he would be tortured if he did not do so. (5)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In the third Gilles'
victims were universally young and male: those female victims we have
allegations of his killing are from dubious testimony, because the
testimony is non specific while that related to some of the boys that
went missing is. (6)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This lends itself to
seeing Gilles as a homosexual paederast (also pointed to by the fact
that he only ever had one daughter with his wife [who had at least
one child we know of with her second husband)]and seems to have been
away from her whenever possible) with strong religious convictions.
Gilles; for want of a better term, was really a bit dim and easily
lead by others as is shown by the fact that nobody at the French
court thought Gilles a political or social threat when he was
appointed as a Marshall of France. (7)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This stands in stark
contrast to the usual portrayal of Gilles as a genius whose mind was
unable to find its niche, (8) but on closer inspection we find that
this is a supposition based on the fact that we know that Gilles; in
an age before books were common, a copy of Ovid's&lt;i&gt; 'Metamorphoses'&lt;/i&gt;,
Suetonius' history of the Caesars and two copies of St. Augustine's
&lt;i&gt;'City of God'&lt;/i&gt;. (9) 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
However a simple fact
is overlooked in that supposition: Gilles was a very ostentatious
individual (10) and books; especially rare ones, were an expensive
luxury. (11) It does not necessarily follow that because Gilles owned
copies of some rare books that he was a rootless intellectual. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Indeed the odds are
that it was an ostentatious display because in the first instance
Gilles never pursued any higher education what-so-ever (he hated his
two ecclesiastical tutors for a start and so bad was their
relationship that he hunted one of them down twenty years after the
fact). (12) While in the second had Gilles been a genius; or even
highly intelligent, then; if he did what was alleged and he confessed
to doing, he would have realised that he didn't need all the
sorcerers and alchemists he acquired and could have pursued his own
alchemical researches using just occasional advice and his own
reading.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
That he felt he needed
large doses of outside help from a whole range of charlatans and
snake oil salesmen; (13) and furthermore that he strongly believed in
their rather obvious deceptions (such as a sorcerer entering a
haunted wood at night of the new moon only to make lots of loud
noises to indicate he had summoned something), (14) suggests quite
strongly that Gilles was less a medieval Einstein and more the
village idiot given control of the village.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
It is important to
understand this lack of intelligence because it in part potentially
exonerates Gilles from some of the blame for the crimes; which he
probably committed at least some of, (15) in that; as Bataille has
pointed out, (16) Gilles likely fell under the spell of his longest
alchemist companion named Francois Prelati. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Prelati; as Bataille
argues, is likely the key agent in Gilles' downfall as he appears to
have seduced Gilles and introduced him to paederasty as well as the
various types of sadistic sexuality with which Gilles is now closely
associated. The thing about Prelati is that he escaped the trial of
Gilles; in spite of being directly responsible for the alleged murder
and sexual molestation of hundreds of male children, with only a life
sentence which he then absconded from only then to seduce another
lord who wished to dabble in alchemy and the occult, becoming
arrogant once again, being captured and then put to death. (17)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Now in coming to
Prelati we come to the convergence of our description of the crimes
of Gilles and the jews in two separate issues. The first is in what
Gilles was specifically trying to do (create a new source of revenue
for himself by cracking the secrets of the art of alchemy) and the
second is why he was specifically trying to do it in the first place.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Lets return to Prelati
now for a moment to observe that we know precious little about him
other than he had allegedly been a cleric at one time (18) (although
I doubt this and would suggest it more likely that Prelati was
assuming the air of clerical honours after being well-schooled) and
that he was an Italian. (19) 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Now for all that
Prelati was obviously something of a con-artist: I don't doubt that
he did genuinely believe; at least partly anyway, in the possibility
and plausibility of what he was trying to do (i.e. transform base
metals into&lt;i&gt; 'prima materia' &lt;/i&gt;and then transform them back into
valuable metals such as gold and silver). However to do such
experiments and test his theories he needed rich sponsors with a
slightly gullible streak willing to part with large sums of cash in
order to obtain the rare ingredients needed for such experimentation.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The ideas however that
formed much of what Prelati was doing are heavily derived from
elements of jewish magic; specifically the Kabbalah, which had begun
to significantly penetrate the thinking of Western occultic masters
and adepts at around this time. (20) Specifically one of the most
significant borrowings from jewish magic was the direct invocation of
demons as deliberate agents  who could be bound by the will of a
sufficiently skilled conjurer to do their persona bidding (21) as
opposed to the value-neutral  'spirit invocations' that were common
in traditional European magic. (22)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Christian and
traditional European ideas about magic of course fused with these
jewish borrowings to create the demons as significant entities of
themselves as opposed to the evil entities who could be controlled of
jewish magic (usually for use in divination) (23) and the spirits of
the ancestors and the Gods who were invoked in traditional European
magic. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The merger comes from
the jewish habit; as shown most tangibly by the use of &lt;i&gt;'Ba'al'&lt;/i&gt; (lit.&lt;i&gt;
'Master'&lt;/i&gt;) in the Old Testament to describe a whole range of different
gods and deities, of assuming that any god or metaphysical entity
other than Yahweh was actually just an evil spirit who was worshipped
by deluded individuals and nations fusing with the Christian belief
in a literal &lt;i&gt;'evil one' &lt;/i&gt;(i.e. the devil) making an&lt;i&gt; 'evil spirit'&lt;/i&gt;
rather more than a wandering enemy of God's creation, but rather a
member of the devil's highly organized legion of the damned.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In essence we can see
that the demons that Prelati and others alleged they had raised
(including the devil himself on several occasions) were essentially
taken almost directly from jewish concepts of magic and had been
given a Christian veneer by apportioning them a place within the
Christian intellectual cosmogony. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
However Christian the
devil might at first appear to be: in large measure the devil Gilles
knew; and indeed that we still hear of today, wore a kippah, a
tallith and conversed in Hebrew. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The demonology of the
jews and Kabbalistic ideas about the mystical importance of
individual characters and names (although these did have precedent in
European magic their use was substantially different and their power
understood differently when compared to the jewish versions)  is
visible to us through the importance attached to such things by
occultists and alchemists in the medieval era. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
When we add that we
know that this specific kind of&lt;i&gt; 'agent magic'&lt;/i&gt; (i.e. jewish demonology
which developed from jewish angelology) sprung from the jews in
southern Italy our interest must be tweaked. (24) This is even more
interesting because southern Italy was one of the greatest jewish
centres of Gilles' day (25) (the jews having been officially expelled
from France in 1306) and Prelati; of course, just happened to come
from Italy.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
We also know that jews
were; shortly before Gilles' time, coming north into the regions
previously cleansed of their jewish inhabitants (26) and that this
means that Gilles' agents; who were scouring southern Europe
(specifically Italy) for skilled occultists and alchemists, (27)
would have run into a large number of jewish occultists and
alchemists or at the very least many of those who had been trained
and inspired by them. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Prelati; of course, is
an obvious candidate for at least being inspired by jewish magic or
magicians in his quest for the&lt;i&gt; 'prima materia'&lt;/i&gt;. We cannot say whether
Prelati was himself of jewish origin or not with no evidence to do
so, but it is clear that if he wasn't jewish: he was probably deeply
inspired by the magical ideas of the jews.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
One particular idea
that seems to have dominated Gilles' thought is the concept of
spiritual transgression in that we are told that Gilles would do
anything Prelati told him to in order to effect the desired result
except for one thing: sell his soul to the devil. (28) This wasn't
through a lack of Prelati's encouragement to do so, (29) but because
Gilles was deeply religious in a way that I would opine is very
difficult for the modern secular man to comprehend.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In Prelati's
suggesting, encouragement and management of Gilles' alleged crimes we
should see a man who wanted to get to the&lt;i&gt; 'prima materia'&lt;/i&gt; no matter
what and Gilles was; in many ways, the ideal candidate to help him do
that as he was deeply in debt to moneylenders and was willing to do
practically anything to get his fortune back so he could pursue his
expensive habits again. In essence Gilles was Prelati's experiment to
see if human sacrifice, sodomy, torture and fornication could
actually summon the devil and please him sufficiently to give Prelati
the secret to alchemy (which the devil was presumed to know). (30)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In Prelati we can see
the evil mastermind behind Gilles' crimes and also a man who deserved
a far more painful death than he; in fact, received. The question of
his jewishness may be impossible to prove either way, but it is no
accident that a plethora of writers on Gilles have mentioned that
jewish magic; and specifically the Kabbalah, was key to the
intellectual system that underlay Gilles' alleged crimes. (31)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Having illuminated the
jewish influence on the crimes themselves it remains for us to look
into the second half of the equation as to what drove Gilles to do
what he allegedly did. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
That is really very
simple: Gilles was a spendthrift par&amp;nbsp;extraordinaire&amp;nbsp;and in spite of
being one of the richest subjects of the French crown. He managed to
bankrupt himself in a few short years by his habit of giving large
sums of money to almost random individuals, settling parts of his
estates on other individuals and spending outrageous sums on making
war on the English crown (specifically in service to the French crown
through the agency of Jean d'Arc) as well as on theatre productions
and religious services/paraphernalia.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
By the beginning of his
crimes (when he resigned as a Marshall of France) in 1432 Gilles was
all but broke and had begun borrowing from moneylenders as well as
selling off estates to other lords&amp;nbsp;queuing&amp;nbsp;up to buy them at bargain
prices (Gilles was desperate for ready cash after all and as soon as
he acquired it he had usually squandered it). (32)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The interesting
question in that is: who were the moneylenders?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Since the moneylenders
at this time were usually Christian monastic institutions and we have
no record; that I have seen or heard of, of Gilles borrowing from
such institutions (I suspect he would have found it immoral to do so
due to his excessive religiosity): it is reasonable to assume he had
found some other stream of credit. Gilles'  known contact and
predilection for Italy suggests a very obvious candidate in the
jewish moneylenders who were famously operating throughout Italy in
spite of the attempts by the Papacy to outlaw them. (33)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If Gilles did borrow
(at least in part) from jewish moneylenders; as we may speculatively
but reasonably suggest, then it also gives us the vector for how he
and his agents located occultists and alchemists in such numbers as
to be able to judge those thought most skilled and employ them. The
reason for this is rather simple in that many jews in the medieval
period; as well before and after, often had a formal occupation; such
as money lending, and also had a separate religious life, which
could; for the more mystical, easily include engaging in jewish magic
and teaching non-jews bits of said magic for a price.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This completes the
riddle of Gilles then as it gives us both the key origin of the
magical ideas he thought he was experimenting with and also the
medium through which those ideas were introduced to him as well as
locating the partial agent of Gilles' financial desperation in one
group of people: the jews.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This then turns the
famous scholar of jewish magic Joshua Tractenberg's argument that the
activities of Gilles de Rais informed Christian charges of
witchcraft, sorcery and devil worship against the jews (34) on its
head. Instead it places the crimes of Gilles de Rais in a background
of increasing financial desperation; partially caused by the jews,
and the concomitant desperation to find the magical secrets; garnered
ultimately from the jews, of transmutation of base metal into gold.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
It is then clear that
the jews bear at least some of the responsibility for the murder of
the several hundred male children allegedly tortured, sodomized and
butchered by Gilles de Rais in the name of magical experimentation
and his own flagging fortunes.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(1) Georges Bataille,
 Richard Robinson (Trans.), 2004,&lt;i&gt; 'The Trial of Gilles de Rais'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition, Amok: Los Angeles, p. 17&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(2) Ibid, pp. 62-63&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(3) A. Vincent, Claire
 Binns, 1926,&lt;i&gt; 'Gilles de Rais: The Original Bluebeard'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition, A. Philpot: London, p. 164; vis-a-vis Robert Moore, 2012,
 &lt;i&gt;'The War on Heresy: Faith and Power in Medieval Europe'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition, Profile: London&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(4) Candice Black
 (Ed.), 2012, &lt;i&gt;'Satanic Alchemy: Atrocities of Gilles de Rais'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition, Sun Vision Press: Washington D.C., pp. 63-65&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(5) Bataille, Op.
 Cit., p. 22; Vincent, Binns, Op. Cit, pp. 174-175&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(6) Implied by Ibid.,
 pp. 34-37; also Black, Op. Cit., pp. 43-44; 60-61&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(7) Ibid, p. 31&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(8) Tennille Dix,
 1931,&lt;i&gt; 'The Black Baron: The Strange Life of Gilles de Rais'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition, Eveleigh Nash: London, pp. 34-35&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(9) Black, Op. Cit.,
 p. 82&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(10) Bataille, Op.
 Cit., pp. 47-52&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(11) Black, Op. Cit.,
 p. 155&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(12) Bataille, Op.
 Cit., pp. 25; 98-99&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(13) Black, Op. Cit.,
 pp. 15-16; 108&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(14) Ibid, p. 16&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(15) Jeffrey Burton
 Russell, 1974, &lt;i&gt;'Witchcraft in the Middle Ages'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition, Cornell University Press: Ithaca, p. 263&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(16) Bataille, Op.
 Cit., pp. 23; 32&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(17) Ibid, p. 23&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(18) Black, Op. Cit.,
 pp. 14-17&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(19) Ibid, pp. 17; 36&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(20) Russell, Op. Cit.,
 p. 262&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(21) Joshua
 Tractenberg, 1939, &lt;i&gt;'Jewish Magic and Superstition: A Study in Folk
 Religion'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Behrman's Jewish Book House: New
 York, p. 26&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(22) On this see Bengt
 Ankarloo, Stuart Clark (Eds.), 2002,&lt;i&gt; 'Witchcraft and Magic in
 Europe: The Middle Ages'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, University of
 Pennsylvania Press: Philadelphia&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(23) Tractenberg, Op.
 Cit., p. 26&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(24) Ibid, pp. 72-73&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(25) Robert Chazan,
 2006,&lt;i&gt; 'The Jews of Medieval Western Christendom 1000-1500'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition , Cambridge University Press: New York, pp. 119-120&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(26) Ibid, pp. 121-122&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(27) Black, Op. Cit.,
 pp. 15-17&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(28) Black, Op. Cit,
 pp. 37-38&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(29) Vincent, Binns,
 Op. Cit, pp. 136-137&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(30) Bataille, Op.
 Cit., pp. 59-62&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(31) Vincent, Binns,
 Op. Cit, p. 128; Dix, Op. Cit., p. 56; Black, Op. Cit., p.15&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(32) Ibid, pp. 97; 111;
 121; Bataille, Op. Cit., pp. 14; 44; 47-52&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(33) Chazan, Op. Cit.,
 pp. 121-124&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(34) Tractenberg, Op.
 Cit., p. 9&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
</description><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SemiticControversies/~3/SVNVkPZbVaU/the-crimes-of-gilles-de-rais-and-jews.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Karl Radl)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-crimes-of-gilles-de-rais-and-jews.html</feedburner:origLink></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8878064790402161553.post-4499960951404366548</guid><pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2013-04-18T14:13:38.614-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Palestine</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semite</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Islamism</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Holocaust Survivors</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">jews</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Aristotle</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Israel</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Zionism</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Islam</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Judeo-Bolshevism</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">holocaust</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Aphorisms</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism 2.0</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Communism</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">holocaust denial</category><title>Anti-Semitic Aphorisms</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Some anti-Jewish Aphorisms that I came up with today during my lunchtime walk. I thought I'd share them with my readers. To wit:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;---------------------------&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If anti-Semitism is the
longest hatred then how is it that that hatred isn't caused by Jews?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
When a Jew calls you an
anti-Semite: he means to tell you that he is anti-White.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Anti-Zionist is the
politically correct way to say that one opposes Jewish behaviour:
anti-Semite is the politically incorrect way of saying it.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If there is no Jewish
conspiracy then why do so many conspiracies involve Jews?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If Palestine was meant
for the Jews by God then why did God kick them out again?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If the Germans killed
six million Jews then why aren't we told that the Jews killed eight
million Germans?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If the Palestinians are
terrorists and Israelis victims now: then doesn't that make the Jews
terrorists and the Palestinians victims before? 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If the Holocaust
happened then why are there so many survivors?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If the Holocaust is the
best documented event in history then why do historians cite so
little of the documentation?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
An anti-Semite is
someone a Jew wants to silence.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If Communism wasn't
Jewish then why were so many Communists born to Jewish parents?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If the Jews are White
then why do they describe themselves as Jewish?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If Aristotle said a bad
word about Jews would that mean he was therefore a bigoted and
paranoid pseudo-intellectual?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If all Israel wants is
to live in peace with its Arab neighbours then why does it always
invade them?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If the rise of radical
Islam was unrelated to Israel's treatment of the Arab world then why
would the plight of the Palestinians be at the top of radical Islam's
tally of grievances?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If radical Islam hates
Jews then why were the creators of radical Islam themselves Jewish?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Being skeptical about
Jewish claims is the first step on the highway to Hitler.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
</description><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SemiticControversies/~3/Oej157g4vuU/anti-semitic-aphorisms.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Karl Radl)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/04/anti-semitic-aphorisms.html</feedburner:origLink></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8878064790402161553.post-9191575730756991086</guid><pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2013-04-17T17:08:51.302-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Protocols of Zion</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Harold Russell Rosenthal</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">conspiracy theory</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Walter White Jr.</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">textual criticism</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Christian Identity</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">The Hidden Tyranny</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">jews</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Christianity</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism 2.0</category><title>Harold Russell Rosenthal, Walter White Jr. and 'The Hidden Tyranny'</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The pamphlet and the
alleged interview that make up Walter White Jr's pamphlet &lt;i&gt;'The Hidden
Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt; have recently come to my attention once again as I happened
to be researching the inter-war anti-Communist Edwin Marshall Hadley
and my copy of one of Hadley's works;&lt;i&gt; 'Kehilla Unmasked'&lt;/i&gt;, was
republished by Walter White Jr. in 1980. (1) In that work I was
reminded of a particular interview that White claimed to have
performed in 1976 with Harold Russell Rosenthal; a senior jewish aide
to Senator Jacob K. Javits, which he published in his periodical
&lt;i&gt;'Western Destiny' &lt;/i&gt;and in pamphlet form. (2)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In this article I'd
like to focus on the question of the authenticity of this claimed
interview in part because it is used to back up claims of a Protocols
of Zion type of jewish conspiracy and also due to the fact that I
find White's story rather incredible. What I will not do in this
article is seek to interpret the Rosenthal interview text per se,
because I would argue to do that we would have to have some evidence
that the interview text is actually genuine (which we do not).&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
I should begin by
correcting an issue I noticed while checking what people had written
about &lt;i&gt;'The Hidden Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt; on the internet: it seems an author;
Charles A. Weisman, associated with Christian Identity has been
confused as being the interviewer (3) although; as Henry Makow has
correctly alluded, the interviewer and author was Walter White Jr.
(4) It is possible that Weisman did claim to be the interviewer and
author as he does list it on his site and doesn't mention White in
his description of &lt;i&gt;'The Hidden Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt;. (5) 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
It also possible that
Weisman could have been a  later pseudonym of White's (I have been
unable to establish when White died although he would have been of
near retirement age by 1980 and Weisman was still active in 2005),
(6) but this seems very unlikely given the significant differences in
written styles as well as differences in their intellectual
interests. I am unwilling to rule the possibility out completely in
part because White's publication &lt;i&gt;'Western Front'&lt;/i&gt; was head-quartered
in Hollywood, which also happens to be where Dr. Wesley Swift (more
or less the founder of Christian Identity) had his base and White;
throughout his works and &lt;i&gt;'Western Front'&lt;/i&gt;, shows that his racialism
and Conservatism is based on a deeply-held sense of Protestant
Christian faith with some similarities to Christian Identity.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This; of course, is a
side point, but never-the-less one that I felt needed some comment.
Getting back to the thrust of this article I shall begin my
commentary on the authenticity of White's transcript by pointing to a
peculiar omission on White's part in that he doesn't once mention the
date of the interview.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Given that White claims
that the interview was&lt;i&gt; 'highly confidential'&lt;/i&gt;, (7) hints (although
does not explicitly claim) that Rosenthal was murdered in a false
flag attack by the Israeli state (pretending to be the Palestine
Liberation Organization) on an Israeli civilian aircraft in Istanbul
on the 12&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; of August 1976, (8) that White was kidnapped
on the morning of the 21&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; of March 1977 for more than
five days during which time he was repeatedly beaten up, (9) that he
was further badly beaten up on the 13&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; of March 1978 (10)
and that on the 26&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; September 1979 two men; pretending to
be delivering a parcel, forced their way into his home while holding
him and his wife hostage so they could steal the tapes of Rosenthal
interview (only to knock White and his wife out when they had obtained them). (11)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Then it is extremely
odd that White never once gives us a date that this alleged interview
with Rosenthal took place. We are given dates by White for everything
but the very thing that we need the date for in order to verify it:
now conversely if the interview never took place then a date could be
used to disprove White's story as we could discover where Rosenthal
was and where White was.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The argument that the
interview was so &lt;i&gt;'highly confidential'&lt;/i&gt; that White wouldn't have
disclosed that information is absurd precisely because Rosenthal was
dead and White was a well known critic of jews (being the publisher
and chief luminary of &lt;i&gt;'Western Front' &lt;/i&gt;since at least 1967) who in
fact styled himself a fearless critic of the jews. (12) That should
have been all too happy to disclose when and where he met Rosenthal
for his interview (he did after all pay Rosenthal for his time in his
version of events) (13) so that this could be verified by his
supporters as; simply put, he had nothing to lose and everything to
gain by doing so.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
After all why give us
the dates for all the assaults on his person as well as that of his
wife (and I don't have any reason to doubt White's truthfulness here
although I do doubt the motives he necessarily suggested were behind
these attacks) and not give us the one piece of information that
would allow us to easily confirm the authenticity of what he himself
referred to as the Protocols of Zion of 1979? (14)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This obviously then
gives us cause to doubt White's version of events; as well as his
transcript, as they are unverifiable given that according to White
the tapes were stolen in 1979 and the only other person who attended
that interview; Rosenthal, was dead. This effectively means that we
only have White's word that the interview ever took place.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
It doesn't help that
the interview must; if White's story is to be believed, have taken
place some time (presumably at least several weeks given White's
allegations about the Israeli state's role in Rosenthal's early
demise) before the 12&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; of August 1976, but yet&lt;i&gt; 'The
Hidden Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt; was only published in mid-late 1977. That is odd
precisely because White tells us that he knew he had&lt;i&gt; 'political
dynamite'&lt;/i&gt; in his hands, (14) but then claims that he waited a year to
publish the material out of &lt;i&gt;'respect'&lt;/i&gt; for Rosenthal. (15)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The problem with that
is simply that it is completely inconsistent with White's own
professed goals in that if he &lt;i&gt;'knew he had a political weapon'&lt;/i&gt; in his
hands; a new Protocols of Zion in his estimation, (16) then why would
he wait a year out &lt;i&gt;'respect'&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;for a man who had been deeply offensive
throughout the interview, (17) who White believed to have been a
high-ranking member of the jewish conspiracy (18) and who White also
believed to have been silenced by that same conspiracy because of
said interview? (19)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
White claims that he
did&lt;i&gt; 'not want to hurt' &lt;/i&gt;the Rosenthal family; who had set up a
fellowship in his honour (which still operates to this day), (20) but
one has to ask why White would essentially retard his own cause to
honour a jewish family that he did not really know and politically
was radically opposed to? 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Surely if White wanted
to honour the legacy of Rosenthal then he would have published what
Rosenthal said and made copies of the tapes so that Rosenthal's
legacy would help the many at the expense of the few. That he waited
a year; which again is a very long time to wait, while believing that
distributing this manuscript was a &lt;i&gt;'God-given mission' &lt;/i&gt;(21) is
telling I think that the transcription isn't exactly kosher.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Another issue which
plays into this is that the first version of&lt;i&gt; 'The Hidden Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt;;
which was published in 1977, is not actually a transcription as White
describes it (22) but rather a series of quotes which we are given
little context for. We are given relatively little material from the
interview itself and we have to wait till the second batch of
material was published in 1979 (or alternatively 1983) for anything
resembling a transcription of the interview. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Even then we are told
that this conversation came from after the official interview had
ended (23) and that there is no transcription of the official
material as&lt;i&gt; 'only the first portion'&lt;/i&gt; was transcribed (in reality it
is a series of excerpts without their context) (24) and the
after-interview conversation is supposed to be &lt;i&gt;'the balance'&lt;/i&gt; (i.e.
the rest). (25)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This is then
contradicted by White's claim that the interview was &lt;i&gt;'very lengthy'&lt;/i&gt;
(26) when in fact the first part published in 1977 is considerably
shorter than the after-interview conversation that is&lt;i&gt; 'the balance'&lt;/i&gt;
published in 1979 or 1983. I say this because anyone who has
transcribed an interview knows that even a standard interview lasting
an hour or two can easily take up ten to fifteen pages of text let
alone one that took several hours.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The simple fact is that
there is not enough material for the interview transcript to have
been published  and what was published in transcript form was
published later and even then it is not considerable. This then puts
the authenticity of the Rosenthal interview in serious doubt because
White is effectively telling us he has published the entirety of the
transcript, but yet it isn't very long (i.e. he is contradicting
himself) and the main interview was never published except for a
series of excerpts.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The authenticity of the
interview is put in even more jeopardy when we note that White claims
that he believed it was a &lt;i&gt;'divine commandment'&lt;/i&gt; that he spread the
knowledge about the interview (27) and considering the excerpts he
published (which are fairly explosive if true) it would have been a
simple thing to prepare and publish the full unedited transcript in
the three or four years after the interview, but yet White never did
this.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Why did he only publish
the after-interview conversation and not the interview itself? 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Given of course that
the former is rather tame when compared to the latter with only the
occasional brash statement then it becomes even more odd precisely
because had the original interview contained what he claimed it did
then he had a great opportunity to publicly expose the perfidy of the
jews and gain attention and readership for his periodical &lt;i&gt;'Western
Front'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This is amplified
greatly when we note that White himself estimates that between 1977
and 1979&lt;i&gt; 'The Hidden Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt; had been read by some seven million
people! (28)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Why didn't he
capitalize on this if it was his divine mission?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The answer is difficult
to see other than that White had no interview transcript and was
taken aback by the scale of interest and readership of his pamphlet
both domestically and internationally. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
It is not unreasonable
to suggest the following scenario: White began to receive letters
asking for the whole transcript or a copy of the tapes, which of
course he could not provide. The weight of requests however forced
his hand and he wrote an after-interview conversation in 1979 and
then either made-up or used a real burglary at his house in 1979 to
claim that the interview tapes had been stolen by the jews (which is
then conveniently backed up by the after-interview text with
Rosenthal; playing the part of the jewish conspiracy, threatening
White not to make copies or &lt;i&gt;'they would get him'&lt;/i&gt;). (29)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This White hoped would
stop the requests for the full transcript and the audio recording as
well as covering up the original invention of the transcript, which
also makes sense of the year that White supposedly waited before
publishing. In so far as White probably came up with the idea some
time in 1977 and picked Rosenthal as a politically powerful jew who
had recently been killed in a high profile terrorist attack to be the
&lt;i&gt;'talking head' &lt;/i&gt;of the jewish conspiracy given he could then claim
that Rosenthal had been&lt;i&gt; 'silenced'&lt;/i&gt; (hence eliminating the possibility
of being exposed like recent invented quotes like that infamously
attributed to an Israel Cohen by Eustace Mullins) as well as giving
the transcript the appropriate aura of persecution (i.e. it must be
true because it is being allegedly suppressed). (30)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This limelight also
nicely explains the difference between the excerpts of the original
interview published in 1977 and the after-interview conversation
published in 1979 or 1983. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The former quotes are
at best largely comical and representative of anti-jewish opinion as
opposed to jewish opinion when they make such faux pas as claiming
that&lt;i&gt; 'jews control the Kremlin'&lt;/i&gt; (31) and the Russian Communist Party
(CPSU) was &lt;i&gt;'50 percent jewish'&lt;/i&gt; (32) [in 1976 don't forget!] when; at
the time of the interview, Zionists were declaring the Kremlin to be
anti-Semitic and were engaged in a not inconsiderable public
relations battle against it in the United States and the Middle East.
(33) 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
We are also told; in
excerpts that are clearly all but summaries from the common English
translation of the Protocols of Zion, that the jews have deliberately
taken control the printed and publication of textbooks for schools in
order to rewrite history, (34) that jews created Israel to disprove
the words of Jesus, (35) that Jesus wasn't jewish, (36) the jews
aren't the &lt;i&gt;'chosen people' &lt;/i&gt;of Yahweh (37) and so on.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Compare that to the
after-interview conversation and we note the dramatic change in that
while being belligerent Rosenthal merely claims the jews control the
news media in America, (38) Jesus wasn't a jew (again), (39) the jews
control the churches and schools (40) and that gentiles are stupid.
(41)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In the short the series
of excerpts from the original interview are incredibly crude and
outlandish in  their claims. While the transcript of the
after-interview conversation is much more measured in tone with the
claims that are made being less broad and stereotyped than those of
the excerpts of the original interview.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This change in tone as
well as content is difficult to explain by anything other than the
two texts being composed in different circumstances with the former
being written to get attention by providing source material for
common anti-jewish arguments and beliefs, while the latter was
composed to satisfy the resultant attention and the desire for the
original transcripts.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This in short means
that the Rosenthal interview as published by White is likely a fake,
because; in summary, the two texts are not long enough to be the
whole interview as described by White, the two texts are markedly
different in tone and content, we do not have a text or a recording
of the original interview only excerpts in spite of the considerable
interest in the text, the content of the texts is often stereotypical
and contrary to common jewish tropes and positions at the time of its
alleged occurrence, White does not provide us with any evidence the
interview ever took place and we do not know the date of the
interview in spite of being told the date of every other event
related to&lt;i&gt; 'The Hidden Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In essence there is
absolutely no proof the interview ever happened and quite a lot which
counts against it having occurred.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(1) Anon. (probably
 Walter White Jr.), 1980,&lt;i&gt; 'The Lurking Shadow'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition, Western Front: Hollywood&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(2) See Ibid,&lt;i&gt;
 'Conclusion'&lt;/i&gt;, pp. vii-viii; also Walter White Jr., 2003, [1983],&lt;i&gt;
 'The Hidden Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Patriot Press:
 Henderson&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(3)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=11222"&gt;http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=11222&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(4)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_zion23.htm"&gt;http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_zion23.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(5)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.seek-info.com/israel.htm"&gt;http://www.seek-info.com/israel.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(6)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Maxims-Law-Charles-Weisman/dp/B00BHYXP32/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1366047699&amp;amp;sr=1-2"&gt;http://www.amazon.com/Maxims-Law-Charles-Weisman/dp/B00BHYXP32/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1366047699&amp;amp;sr=1-2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(7) White,&lt;i&gt; 'The Hidden
 Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt;, Op. Cit., p. 1&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(8) Ibid, p. 3&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(9) White, &lt;i&gt;'The
 Lurking Shadow'&lt;/i&gt;, 'Conclusion', p. vii&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(10) Ibid; White,&lt;i&gt; 'The
 Hidden Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt;, Op. Cit., p. 27&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(11) White,&lt;i&gt; 'The
 Lurking Shadow'&lt;/i&gt;,&lt;i&gt; 'Conclusion'&lt;/i&gt;, p. vii&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(12) Ibid.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(13) Ibid.; White, &lt;i&gt;'The
 Hidden Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt;, Op. Cit., p. 29&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(14) Ibid, p. 26&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(15) Ibid, p. 4&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(16) Ibid, p. 26&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(17) Ibid, pp. 2-5;
 29-30&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(18) Ibid, pp. 29-30&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(19) Ibid, p. 3&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(20)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.rosenthalfellowship.org/fprogdes.htm"&gt;http://www.rosenthalfellowship.org/fprogdes.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(21) White,&lt;i&gt; 'The
 Lurking Shadow'&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;'Conclusion'&lt;/i&gt;, p. viii&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(22) White, &lt;i&gt;'The Hidden
 Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt;, pp. 2-4&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(23) Ibid, p. 30&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(24) Ibid, p. 29&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(25) Ibid, pp. 29-30&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(26) Ibid, pp. 4-5; 29&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(27) White, &lt;i&gt;'The
 Lurking Shadow'&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;'Conclusion'&lt;/i&gt;, p. viii&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(28) White, &lt;i&gt;'The Hidden
 Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt;, pp. 29-30&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(29) Ibid, p. 33&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(30) On this see the
 following article:
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/israel-cohens-racial-program-for.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/04/israel-cohens-racial-program-for.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(31) White, &lt;i&gt;'The Hidden
 Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt;, p. 8&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(32) Ibid, pp. 8-9&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(33) For example see
 Elie Wiesel, 1987, &lt;i&gt;'The Jews of Silence: A Personal Report on Soviet
 Jewry'&lt;/i&gt;, 3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Schocken: New York; Martin Gilbert,
 1987,&lt;i&gt; 'Shcharansky: Hero of our Time'&lt;/i&gt;, 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; Edition,
 Penguin: New York and Zev Katz, 1970,&lt;i&gt; 'After the Six-Day War'&lt;/i&gt;, pp.
 321-336 in Lionel Kochan (Ed.), 1970,&lt;i&gt; 'The Jews in Soviet Russia
 since 1917'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Oxford University Press: New
 York&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(34) White,&lt;i&gt; 'The Hidden
 Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt;, pp. 18-23&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(35) Ibid, p. 7&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(36) Ibid, p. 12&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(37) Ibid, p. 18&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(38) Ibid, p. 32&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(39) Ibid, pp. 33-34&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(40) Ibid, p. 38&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(41) Ibid, p. 39&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
</description><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SemiticControversies/~3/tShPDK0ZQoI/harold-russell-rosenthal-walter-white.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Karl Radl)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/04/harold-russell-rosenthal-walter-white.html</feedburner:origLink></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8878064790402161553.post-1317208774280596833</guid><pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2013-04-14T17:15:32.530-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">forensic science</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Science</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Adolf Hitler</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Third Reich</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">jews</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Frankenberger</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Hans Frank</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Rothschild</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Graz</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ian Kershaw</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alois Schicklgruber</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Germany</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism 2.0</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">National socialism</category><title>Was Adolf Hitler of Jewish or Rothschild Origin?</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;By Karl Radl with Hans
Blackthorne&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
I have long encountered
claims made by a wide variety of individuals that Adolf Hitler; the
leader of the Third Reich from 1933 to 1945, was of jewish; and more
specifically of Rothschild, origin. These claims; usually to do with
Hitler's  life before he joined the DAP, are almost entirely based on
hearsay and gossip combined with the need to invent reasons why
Hitler was so good an orator (he&lt;i&gt; 'must'&lt;/i&gt; have been a black magician:
hence the &lt;i&gt;'Occult Reich' &lt;/i&gt;literature), why Hitler was keen to clamp
down on some sexual and reproductive activity (he &lt;i&gt;'must'&lt;/i&gt; have been a
homosexual or sexually aroused by scat: hence the psychoanalytic
interpretations of Hitler), why Hitler invaded Poland (he &lt;i&gt;'must'&lt;/i&gt; have
been bent on world conquest: hence the &lt;i&gt;'Hitler as a warmonger'
&lt;/i&gt;literature) and why Hitler hated the jews and supposedly killed six
million of them in the &lt;i&gt;'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt;  (he&lt;i&gt; 'must' &lt;/i&gt;have been of jewish
origin: hence the &lt;i&gt;'Hitler as a jew'&lt;/i&gt; literature).&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
All of the above claims
are quite false, but yet people often believe at least one of them;
if not several at once, in part because they feel the intellectual
need to&lt;i&gt; 'explain' &lt;/i&gt;Hitler as some sort of deviant who they couldn't
possibly be like, because they are &lt;i&gt;'normal'&lt;/i&gt; and he wasn't. The
sensible position that Hitler was a normal human being; although in
fairness that is underselling Hitler quite substantially given that
he was obviously rather intelligent, a gifted artist and one of the
best orators the world has ever known, is in sense revolutionary
because it asks the question of many people; in terms of their own
perceptions, as to whether they could commit acts regarded by current
social norms as the very summit of evil.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This is much the same
reason that other highly-talented National Socialists; like Goebbels,
have been frequently been subject to the same process: although in
Goebbels' case it is alleged that he was a cynic, didn't believe in a
word he said, a closet communist, an accomplished liar and generally
manipulated all and sundry persons to his advantage. To believe that
Hitler and Goebbels were normal people; like you or I, is heresy in a
very real sense for a lot of people in much the same way that
communists were not often viewed as people; during the &lt;i&gt;'Red Scare'&lt;/i&gt;
epochs of the 1920s and 1950s, but rather as a subversive&lt;i&gt; 'other'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Let us move beyond the
claims of those who wish to simply vilify Hitler or proclaim that he
was an agent of the Rothschilds in a gigantic Zionist conspiracy to
look at whether this thesis is in any way justifiable. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
There are two elements
to the claim that Hitler was of jewish or Rothschild origin.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The first is the
historic claim that his paternal grandmother (Maria Anne
Schicklgruber) was actually impregnated while in service (i.e.
employed as a live-in maid) to a jewish man of Rothschild descent
surnamed Frankenberger in Graz. There are non-specific claims in
relation to Hitler having a jewish father that were made during and
after Hitler's ascent to power in 1933: however as these have no
names or detail behind them we can safely dismiss them as being
smears by opponents. (1)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The second is of far
more recent vintage and originates from a Belgian journalist
Jean-Paul Mulders and a customs official Marc Vermeeren (2) (the
latter has incorrectly been labelled a&lt;i&gt; 'historian'&lt;/i&gt; by a later article
in an apparent attempt to give him some semblance of authority) (3)
claim to have&lt;i&gt; 'genetic proof'&lt;/i&gt; that Hitler was of partial jewish/North
African origin.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The first of these
positions that Hitler's father; Alois Schicklgruber, (4) was the
product of a sexual indiscretion between a maid and her jewish
master; Frankenberger, while the former was in his employ in Graz,
derives almost singly from the memoirs of Hans Frank. (5) 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In his memoirs Frank
firstly claims that Hitler had no jewish ancestors, (6) but then
changes his mind later reciting the Frankenberger story. (7) Further
Frank claims; and we are not usually told this by proponents of the
Frankenberger hypothesis, that Hitler told him that he knew about
this story and that his grandfather and grandmother were actually
conning the jew involved out of money. (8) Frank however; as Kershaw
informs us, was in a psychologically troubled state when he wrote
these lines (as he was facing execution) and his memoirs are filled
with made-up information and inaccuracies. (9)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
That Frank was simply
inventing the Frankenberger claim can be shown easily enough by
pointing out there is no confirmatory evidence for it and some
significant problems with it. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In the first instance
of course there is the fact that Frank contradicts himself on the
subject of Hitler's alleged jewish ancestry, in the second because
Patrick Hitler in his 1938-1939&lt;i&gt; 'revelations'&lt;/i&gt; about alleged jewish
ancestry did not locate that ancestry in Graz let alone the supposed
fact that the ancestry was specifically of Rothschild origin, (10) in
the third there is no evidence that Maria ever went to Graz, (11) and
fourthly there is no record in the Graz archives of any family named
Frankenberger being resident there in the 1830s when Alois was born.
(12)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The possibility of it
being a mistaken spelling has also been investigated; as Kershaw
relates, there is only one family (the Frankreiters) and one
individual (Leopold Frankreiter) in that family that Maria could have
had a relationship with. However there are two qualifiers on that
Leopold Frankreiter was an ordinary butcher (as opposed to the
wealthy jewish financier depicted by the Frankenberger legend),
employed no maid we know of and the Frankreiter family wasn't of
jewish origin. (13) 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The coup de grace to
the whole charade of the&lt;i&gt; 'jewish Hitler'&lt;/i&gt; claims is delivered when we
understand the Gestapo themselves undertook a series of different
secret investigations into Hitler's ancestry and found nothing to
contradict the official NSDAP position (that Hitler's paternal
grandfather was Johann Georg Hiedler) on the matter. (14)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Clearly Frank isn't the
best source of information in relation to Hitler's origins then is
he?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The reason the story
has gained so much currency is in part that one of the major sources
for biographical information about Hitler; a jewish anti-Nazi
journalist named Konrad Heiden, mentioned the claims in his 1944
biography of Hitler&lt;i&gt; 'Der Fuehrer'&lt;/i&gt;, but didn't supply any actual
information to back them up. (15) 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
We need to remember
that one of the major angles for propagandistic attack on the racial
doctrines of National Socialism was accusing National Socialist race
theory of being the product of intellectual cranks and that
Nationalist Socialist leaders weren't themselves of pure Aryan
ancestry even under their own standards. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Good examples of just
this kind of vicious attack can be found in wartime propaganda works
such as the wartime best-seller;&lt;i&gt; 'People under Hitler'&lt;/i&gt;, where it is
claimed that Japanese and Sioux Indians were officially proclaimed to
be members of the Aryan race (16).&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If we understand that
the&lt;i&gt; 'jewish Hitler'&lt;/i&gt; claim is born from anti-Nazi gossip in the 1920s
(the reader should ask themselves which of the major leaders of the
NSDAP wasn't called a jew in an attempt to discredit them) (17) and
then picked up to be used as wartime&lt;i&gt; 'black propaganda'&lt;/i&gt; by the Allies
and Soviets (then being carried over into the peacetime conceptions
of the subject); much as the rumours about Franklin Delano
Roosevelt's alleged jewish origins were picked by Goebbels and his
propagandists (most notably Johann von Leers), then it is not hard to
see that the&lt;i&gt; 'jewish Hitler'&lt;/i&gt; claims are an unfortunate historical
by-product of political invective which have been picked up by
pro-jewish authors in an attempt both to discredit Hitler on the far
right and also provide a Freudian type explanation of his dislike of
jews (i.e. it wasn't due to jewish behaviour but was ipso facto
irrational).&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The second argument; as
advanced by Mulders and Vermeeren, is also dubious in the extreme.
Our intrepid duo; who remind me more of Thompson and Thompson than
Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson, claim that they tracked down 39 of
Hitler's living relatives using genetics. (18) The only actual
relative they actually name is Alexander Stuart-Houston; Hitler's
grand-nephew, who they admit to having taken DNA from for testing
without knowledge or consent. (19) That we don't know who the rest of
the &lt;i&gt;'Hitler relatives'&lt;/i&gt;; they have allegedly taken genetic material
from, are throws a problematic light on their conclusions such as
they are.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
We simply don't have
any idea who these people are or what; or even if, they have any
indirect familial relationship to Hitler. Ironically we also only
have Mulders' word for it is Stuart-Houston's DNA that he took from a
discarded serviette. After all one wonders how Mulders specifically
acquired said serviette and how on earth we can be sure that the
genetic material is actually Stuart-Houston's? Since we don't know
who the other donors are either it makes the whole&lt;i&gt; 'study'&lt;/i&gt; a somewhat
hilarious farce from the get-go because the genetic material has not
been kept free of potential; and even probable, contamination (thus
is completely inadmissible). (20)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This is in spite of all
the usual weasel words from our two budding forensics boffins that
they had&lt;i&gt; 'taken all possible care'&lt;/i&gt; to keep the samples&lt;i&gt; 'free of
contamination'&lt;/i&gt;. This is; of course, clearly nonsense given what we
are told about the only identified contributor  (and an unknowing one
at that) of genetic material to their &lt;i&gt;'study'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
What does this mean?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In effect the likely
contamination of the sample means that anything Mulders and Vermeeren
claim is de facto unreliable because they have no actual proof (i.e.
anything linking it to Stuart-Houston) of who the genetic material
comes from.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This is before we even
note that their methodology is clearly faulty given that they could
and should; had been they been reputable historians as opposed to a
publicity-seeking hack and a customs official, have requested genetic
material be extracted from one of Hitler's teeth that are still in
his skull (which has been identified primarily through its fairly
unique dentistry) as opposed to trying to claim an ancestor's genetic
origins based on the genetics of his descendants.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
You might ask why this
is such a stupid thing to do and this is really because in order to
establish Hitler's genetic make-up we need his own genetic material
if it is available (which it is) and if not then we would need
reliable genetic material from all of Hitler's direct descendants and
relatives up to him. The reason we would need this is really very
simple: we simply do not know if the claimed father of a person is
actually the father historically speaking.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Hitler himself is a
good case in point in that the two most probable candidates for being
his biological grandfather are either his official grandfather
(Johann Georg Hiedler) or his grandfather's brother (Johann von
Nepomuk Huetler). There is simply no other serious candidate in the
field and of the two Nepomuk seems the most likely given Hiedler's
general rejection of Alois and Nepomuk's general acceptance of him.
(21)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
We cannot  absolutely
prove this either way of course, but we can narrow the field by using
the historical documentation and thought experiment to eliminate all
the other candidates.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Simply put: you cannot
claim that an ancestor is proven to be something because their
descendants are something because you do not know what has happened;
in terms of sexual activity, in-between unless you can establish the
genetic line up to the individual concerned (i.e. you need direct not
indirect descent), which Mulders and Vermeeren cannot do without
Hitler's actual genetic material because Hitler fathered no children.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This means in effect
that Mulders and Vermeeren have no genetic case whatsoever to make
the claims they do about Hitler's genetic origins: although they
don't let genetics stand in the way of their broad claims.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Thus having rendered
both the historical and the genetic argument invalid we can
categorically state that there is no actual evidence that Hitler was
jewish or Rothschild origin: indeed everything points to him being of
Austrian peasant stock much as he himself asserted.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(1) Cf. Ron Rosenbaum,
 1998, &lt;i&gt;'Explaining Hitler: A Search for the Origins of His Evil'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition, Random House: New York, pp. 167-178&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(2)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213589/Hitlers-secret-family-How-researchers-tracked-39-living-descendants-dictator.html"&gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213589/Hitlers-secret-family-How-researchers-tracked-39-living-descendants-dictator.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(3)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305414/Hitler-descended-Jews-Africans-DNA-tests-reveal.html"&gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305414/Hitler-descended-Jews-Africans-DNA-tests-reveal.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(4) For a particularly
 useful genealogical chart of Hitler's ancestors see Alan Bullock,
 1954,&lt;i&gt; 'Hitler: A Study in Tyranny'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition,
 Companion Book Club: London, pp. 22-23&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(5) Ian Kershaw, 1998,&lt;i&gt;
 'Hitler'&lt;/i&gt;, Vol. 1, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Penguin: New York, p. 9; Rosenbaum, Op. Cit.,
 pp. 27; 31&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(6) Kershaw, Op. Cit,
 p. 8&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(7) Rosenbaum, Op.
 Cit., pp. 11-15&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(8) Kershaw, Op. Cit.,
 p. 8&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(9) Ibid, p. 9&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(10) Ibid, pp. 8-9&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(11) Ibid, p. 8&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(12) Ibid.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(13) Ibid, pp. 8-9&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(14) Ibid, p. 9&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(15) Rosenbaum, Op.
 Cit., pp. 130-134&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(16) Wallace Deuel,
 1942,&lt;i&gt; 'People under Hitler'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Lindsay
 Drummond: London, pp. 129-130&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(17) The most notable
 examples aside from Hitler were Joseph Goebbels, Alfred Rosenberg
 and Reinhard Heydrich. All of which; I might add, have been
 categorically declared false by modern historians.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(18)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305414/Hitler-descended-Jews-Africans-DNA-tests-reveal.html"&gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305414/Hitler-descended-Jews-Africans-DNA-tests-reveal.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(19) Ibid.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(20) Reading between
 the lines of the article
 (&lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213589/Hitlers-secret-family-How-researchers-tracked-39-living-descendants-dictator.html"&gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213589/Hitlers-secret-family-How-researchers-tracked-39-living-descendants-dictator.html&lt;/a&gt;
 ) we should not that Stuart-Houston &lt;i&gt;'disposed'&lt;/i&gt; of the napkin in a
 bin and we haven't even got a clue as to whether it was his or not
 let alone what other genetic material would have been added to the
 mix in said bin.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(21) Kershaw, Op. Cit.,
 pp. 6-7; also Charles Bracelen Flood, 1989,&lt;i&gt; 'Hitler: The Path to
 Power'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Houghton Mifflin: Boston, p. 6&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Agobard
of Lyon is a ninth century Christian bishop well-known to students
of early medieval jewish history in part because he was involved in
encouraging the active prosecution of the jews in Frankish kingdom
under Charlemagne's son Louis the Pious. He wrote several treatises
against the jews; none of which are more than a few pages long, which
are filled with information about them and scholars agree (often
grudgingly) that Agobard was well acquainted with jewish culture and
Judaism (although as far as we know he himself wasn't of jewish
origin) in spite of being a fanatical opponent of both. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;'On the
Insolence of the Jews'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is the third of Agobard's writings against the
jews appearing in 827 AD.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;As
no English translation I know of has appeared of these texts I have
decided to translate the Latin original into modern English as these
texts are not well-known but are of inherent value to anti-jewish
thought precisely because they are rich in contextual information as
well as highlighting a period of time when Christianity was a major
force against Judaism as opposed to trying to placate it as is common
now. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;To
do this I have taken the text of Agobard's work from the &lt;i&gt;'Patrologia
Latina'&lt;/i&gt; (Vol. 104, Col. 69-74) and translated it in relation to the
meaning of text as to translate much of what Agobard says literally
would be largely meaningless to most readers. I have also taken the
liberty here and there of inserting qualifying words and phrases as
to make the meaning clear without resorting to footnotes and thus
hopefully making Agobard's text less stilted than it originally was.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;On the Insolence of the
Jews&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;I&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;To the most Christian
and pious conqueror Emperor Louis from the humblest of your abject
servants Agobard.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;God Almighty, who has
made you a righteous and just ruler and pre-ordained the difficult
tasks that you have undertaken, has designated that you have a
sublime wisdom and a religious knowledge above other mortals of our
time. There is then no doubt that you have been prepared by God for
these dangerous times as the apostle says: In the last days men shall
be lovers of themselves, covetous, boasters, and so on, while having
an appearance of godliness. Of these we do not have to wait as they
can seen at this time with the exception of the advent of Satan's
kingdom and the public captivity of the holy city for forty-two
months when the anti-Christ will rule at the head of the wicked.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Therefore; since these
things are so: I beseech your sufferance so that I may speak to you
of such things as it necessary to bring to your attention; from the
perspective of the lowest of the servants of the Most Holy, so that
they may be corrected.  I would entreat those in your government to
carry out these tasks but as you are the foundation of all authority
and your ministers fear to speak of this then I entrust myself  to
your patience and goodness; even if it imperils me, so that you may
be aware of the dangers you face.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;II&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Imperial agents; lead
by Frederick and Evrard, came and showed themselves to be agents of
the Jews who persecuted the meek Christians; especially at Lyon,
where they desecrated the paintings of the Church and the Christian
populace were goaded into angry demonstrations by this outrage. 
Nevertheless; in so far as it is harmful to the Church of Christ, let
me begin and trust in your meekness and clemency. When they came for
the first time the Jews gave me documents in your name which charged
the count who rules Lyon to aid the Jews in their persecution of
myself and my flock.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;These documents;
although they used your sacred name and were sealed using your ring,
I do not believe came from you. The Jews then began to carry out the
activities listed in this document with a hateful arrogance and
threatened injury against Christians in order to sate their need for
vengeance. After the Jews came Evrard telling everyone that you; your
majesty, were very angry with me because of what I had said about the
Jews. The Jews then used the documents; which I cannot believe to
have come from your hand, to sanction nefarious activities and unjust
legal proceedings.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;This has given the Jews
joy beyond measure and has aggrieved the Christians causing some to
flee and others to hide while others inform on their fellow
Christians to the Jews in order to gain leniency from them. The Jews
then dare to preach irreverently against the Christians, speaking
evil of the Lord God and our Saviour Jesus Christ before the
multitude.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;III&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;We are strengthened in
our faith; against the perversity of these things, by the words of
the Bible and  many whisper that the behaviour of the Jews is an
abomination and that they are not beloved by you and are not above
other men as they would like to believe. As I am an unworthy servant
of yours I may have gone to far in imposing on monasteries in letters
the task of promulgating my teachings. However forgiveness should not
be required for some of my priests; who I do not name, as they did
not dare promulgate my teachings in the presence of the Jews as I had
instructed.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;The reason they did not
dare to promulgate my teachings is the abuse they had suffered from
the supporters of the Jews for no other reason than preaching that if
a person sells slaves to Jews then that person is not a Christian.
This is so that the Jews are unable to acquire Christian slaves to
sell in Spain, are unable to acquire slaves for themselves and to
make sure that baptised Christian women do not serve them on the
Sabbath, dine with them and not eat flesh or drink their wine during
the days of lent. This is especially so as the Jews; when
slaughtering a cow for consumption, have three conditions for that
slaughter that makes the animal unclean: the discovery of a lesion on
the intestine or the liver, if the lung has split open in error or
the animal was imperfectly sacrificed. This means; which can cause
the meat to be poisonous, that the meat is regarded as unclean by the
Jews and it is sold to the Christians who the Jews also insult by
calling them cattle.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;IV&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;With wine that which
the Jews regard as foetid and unclean they do not make use of except
for selling it to the Christians so that a Jew will place whatever
wine that has split on the ground into a new vessel in order to
accomplish this. These things; which are the preserve of the wicked,
are not only attested to by Christian witnesses but by Jewish ones as
well. 
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;I do but that which our
Lord Jesus Christ has commanded me and the prayers of all Christians
enjoin me to do in dealing with the Jews. Not only that but the
Blessed Jerome writes that he knows the Jews inside and out as a
witness to them and that all Christians should bear witness to the
Jews and share the Gospel with them. In this manner I told the
Christians that: Whether you are an ordinary man or a master you are
faithful and you love your brother, but if a man comes into existence
that you feel is the enemy of all men, a backbiter, a criminal and a
deceiver: then you will not feel you have to be a friend to him or
his companion in partaking of food at table. If this is so then this
person will find it impossible to be friendly with with that man
whether he be his father or his lord and would not think himself
unfaithful for not wishing to serve him.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Therefore; like we know
the Jews to be without doubt blasphemers, the faithful of Christ
should not be required to participate in the consummation of meat and
drink with the Jewish enemies of the Lord God and in doing so we only
follow the instructions and example of the Fathers of the Church. In
any case because they live among us we should not pander to them and
instead show them a life whether there is no need for riches as a
contrast to their own by observing the rules of the Church and we
should not be cautious in seeking to spread the truth of the Gospel
among them.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;V&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Thus; most kindly lord,
I have described to you the treachery of the Jews and of the damage
to Christianity that the supporters of the Jews have caused due to
the ignorance of the Christian doctrine of our local lord. His
Christian faith has been injured and corrupted by the lies of the
Jews and I pray that yours; my lord, has not. For the Jews glory in
telling lies to the simpler Christians that they are beloved by and
represent you, whilst boasting that your counsellors have influenced
you towards their cause and against ours so that you would author a
law which they use against us, because we have forbidden Christians
from drinking their wine. Which they have strived long and hard to
maintain because they have received many pounds of silver for the
purchase of this wine and also try to lure Christians from religious
observance so that they may sell them more food and drink.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;They do this using the
documents; which cannot be genuine, that are graced by your name and
golden seal, which look to show a woman's dress like those worn by
your relatives or the mother of your wife. In doing this they explain
that to the glory of their ancestors: your law has allowed them to
build a new synagogue. 
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;This has lead them to
try to misinform Christians by proclaiming that they [the Jews] are
superior to the Christians as they are authorized by the
aforementioned documents to decide when market days are to be held.
To do this the Jews; who come from both near and far away to sell
their wares, choose days that benefit them such as Christian holidays
so that they may tempt Christians away from both the morning and
evening mass so that they may purchase the necessities of life from
them and also entertain themselves in the festivities.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;So now; if it please
your generous nature, let us that state that the Gallic Church and
its officials as well as the kings has to the power to prevent these
abuses by the Jews. The Jewish clergy have argued that they are doing
what has been handed down to them by their ancestors and draw their
arguments from the Old Testament, but these we have proved to be
wrong because of the authority of the Acts of the Apostles and that
therefore the Jews are the enemies of truth and are in many ways
worse than the pagans.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;VI 
&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;A man has testified;
which I have sent to you separately, that a certain man; not yet
twenty-four, recently fled from Cordoba in Spain to Lyon having been
kidnapped by a certain Jew from Lyons when he was a young boy.
Another boy had been kidnapped by a Jew of Arles six years ago. When
he heard of this: he and some acquaintances went to find other
children stolen like this and they found that Christian children were
being bought and sold. One Jew had recently kidnapped and sold
another boy. It is unspeakable that Christians continue to be
kidnapped and solid by the Jews as these acts are base and are
difficult even to write.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
</description><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SemiticControversies/~3/CYMmZIKJ-84/an-english-translation-of-agobard-of.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Karl Radl)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/04/an-english-translation-of-agobard-of.html</feedburner:origLink></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8878064790402161553.post-2065800914366985258</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2013-03-26T20:00:29.023-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Protocols of Zion</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Hermann Goedesche</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">The Prague Cemetery</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Biarritz</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">jews</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Cesare de Michelis</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Six Walks in the Fictional Woods</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">The Protocols of Zion</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">literature</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism 2.0</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Umberto Eco</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Norman Cohn</category><title>Umberto Eco and his Fictional Case against the Protocols of Zion</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
It is a common adage
among those who pour scorn on the Protocols of Zion that the
Protocols just won't stay dead or as one fairly recent writer; in the
long tradition of self-styled Protocols debunkers, Hadassah Ben-Itto
put it: it was &lt;i&gt;'The Lie that wouldn't Die'&lt;/i&gt;. In fact it is largely not
the proponents of the Protocols who haven't &lt;i&gt;'let it die'&lt;/i&gt;, but rather
the self-styled debunkers.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
There has been a recent
surge of books about the Protocols not the least of which is Umberto
Eco's novel &lt;i&gt;'The Prague Cemetery'&lt;/i&gt;, (1) which recalls the famous
chapter of the novel&lt;i&gt; 'Biarritz'&lt;/i&gt; penned by Hermann Goedsche (writing
under the pseudonym Sir John Retcliffe).&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Now despite initial
appearances I don't mean to treat this novel here in part because I
am yet to get through all of it as it is execrable to read if you
have any kind of knowledge of the scholarly debates around the
Protocols of Zion and a conception of what anti-jewish thinkers
actually believe and argue. The reason I say that is; much as Robert
Moore recently commented on Eco's most famous  novel &lt;i&gt;'The Name of the
Rose'&lt;/i&gt;, (2) the mistakes in the presentation are voluminous and
desperately awful to read if you know something of what Eco is
writing about.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
I must confess I have
never been a particular fan of Eco's novels (although he is very
readable and interesting literary theorist); even before I began
looking into the Protocols of Zion, but &lt;i&gt;'The Prague Cemetery'&lt;/i&gt; is
turgid to say the least and the peons of praise it has garnered seem
to be more because it reinforces basic liberal and left-wing
prejudices about supposed 'bigots' than due its innovative written
style or story line.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
However the
intellectual origins of&lt;i&gt; 'The Prague Cemetery'&lt;/i&gt; can be traced to a work
Eco published nearly two decades earlier called &lt;i&gt;'Six Walks in the
Fictional Woods'&lt;/i&gt;. The work itself isn't commonly cited outside of
those who have engaged with the literature on the Protocols of Zion
as it really serves as an appendix to one of Eco's main contributions
to literary theory:&lt;i&gt; 'The Open Work'&lt;/i&gt;. (4)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This;as the title
suggests, focuses on the idea of the &lt;i&gt;'open tradition'&lt;/i&gt; of literature
in that a piece of literature; like the folklore of old, is modified
by different writers and editors of a period of time to suit their
particular ideas and intellectual biases. The book largely focuses on
novelists, but then in the last chapter&lt;i&gt; 'The Fictional Protocols'&lt;/i&gt; Eco
suddenly changes course and spends some time discussing the Protocols
of Zion as an example of a fictional open work which was taken to be
fact.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
It is Eco's ideas on
this point that are worth discussing in more detail because they are
so often cited when the subject of the authenticity of the Protocols
is raised.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Despite its name; or
perhaps even in spite of it, Eco's chapter&lt;i&gt; 'The Fictional Protocols'
&lt;/i&gt;spends less than a third of its pages on the Protocols and the bulk
of the chapter is actually spent discussing the issue of the contrast
between natural (= true) and artificial (= false) narrative and the
indicators of them. (5)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Eco's argument on this
score I largely agree with as he asserts that we cannot actually tell
what is supposed to be fiction and what is supposed to be fact unless
we notice various different indicators and cues that tell us how we
are intended to view a particular written, viewed or spoken narrative
which we are consuming. Eco rightly shows how lacking these
indicators or cues we have a tendency to take artificial (=
fictional) narrative as being natural (= truthful) narrative.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Eco also rightly points
out that when we believe an artificial narrative to be a natural
narrative then we are quite capable of rationalizing it every which
way because that is what we&lt;i&gt; 'know'&lt;/i&gt; to be true as opposed to what is
reasonably arguable to be true. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Eco even remarks; and
quite rightly so, that our concept of &lt;i&gt;'history'&lt;/i&gt; is largely a case of
trusting and cross-checking narrative sources (be they documents,
photos, testimony, chronicles and so forth) in order to decide
whether each individual source or even parts of sources are to be
considered natural (= truthful), artificial (= fictional) or a
combination of the two (i.e. an artificial narrative which seems to
reflect or compliment the natural narrative). This of course means
that history should be viewed; and in my opinion rightly so, as a
completely subjective discipline that is based purely on
interpretation with no boundary between&lt;i&gt; 'fact'&lt;/i&gt; and&lt;i&gt; 'fiction'&lt;/i&gt; that is
easy to qualify.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Indeed such a view of
history fits nicely in with Eco's views on the interchangeability of 
fictional worlds expressed in novels and the real world as expressed
by tactile experiment. In essence Eco's view; as suggested by his
ideas on&lt;i&gt; 'truth' &lt;/i&gt;versus&lt;i&gt; 'falsehood'&lt;/i&gt;, is one where there is no &lt;i&gt;'truth'&lt;/i&gt;
only perceived reality which then defines the subject's ideas about
the object.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This Eco brings out by
using the example of linguistic scholarship which was dominated by
the Creation Story told by Genesis, (6) which lead to the arguments
(and belief) that Adam had created a number of definitive linguistic
categories that then formed the basis of human languages. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
These biblical theories
are obviously wrong, but we should also point out that Eco could very
easily have used another (less obviously anti-religious) example in
Marr's theory that language has a class character which became the
official intellectual orthodoxy of Soviet linguistics for some thirty
years or so until Stalin officially censored it in the early 1950s. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This; similarly to
Biblical theories about the origin of language, took an particular
document or ideological system to be the unvarnished truth (i.e. the
Bible in biblical origin linguistic theories and Engels'
&lt;i&gt;'Anti-Duehring'&lt;/i&gt; in Marr's) but neither are these &lt;i&gt;'artificial
narratives'&lt;/i&gt; per se, because they are believed to be truthful by their
exponents based on the assumption that their foundation's are
provable absolutes as opposed to documents or ideas like any other.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In essence Eco is
forgetting an intellectual frame in his work, because while he talks
about the indicators and cues of normal versus artificial narrative:
he does not once consider that such indicators and cues can be
derived externally about; and independently of, a work (reputation
for example) or social/cultural/political norms associated with the
subject or external indicators of the work in question.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
For example if I were
to write a book about the Protocols of Zion entitled &lt;i&gt;'The Truth about the International Jewish Conspiracy'&lt;/i&gt; then the indicators and cues as
to whether it is a natural or artificial narrative can be assumed
from the title in that it is either a natural narrative arguing for
the reality of an international jewish conspiracy or it is an
artificial narrative arguing against it.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
There are however other
factors operating for a potential consumer of said work in so far as
said individuals are conditional by social/cultural/political norms
to automatically regard the indicator that this work; because of the
title, is likely to really be an untruthful (i.e. artificial)
narrative trying to pretend it is a truthful (i.e. natural) narrative
irrespective of the amount of evidence presented or how minutely
detailed and tightly reasoned the argument in the book actually is
due to its conclusions being contrary to those
social/cultural/political norms.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If I were to title the
same book &lt;i&gt;'The Protocols of Zion: A Critical Reappraisal'&lt;/i&gt; then we can
immediately see that the social/cultural/political norms that created
the indicators and cues; which informed potential consumers of the
work that it was an untruthful (i.e. artificial) narrative trying to
pretend it is a truthful (i.e. natural) narrative, now do precisely
the opposite because the title has been reworded to take advantage of
these same indicators and cues rather than work against them.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If we understand this
then we can see that Eco's subjectivism in regards to narrative and
history has not actually been taken far enough as he hasn't
considered whether or not his own treasured beliefs are actually the
result of his taking an artificial narrative as being a natural
narrative then applying that artificial narrative to the real world
(much like the readers of the Harry Potter novels who try and enrol
themselves at Hogwarts).&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In essence Eco's
thought contradicts itself because he doesn't carry that train of
thought far enough in relation to questioning his own assumptions and
in doing so he commits precisely the same mistake as those scholars
who theorized a biblical origin of language. In so far as Eco talks
of the subjectivity of belief and the lack of border of viewpoints
derived from fantasies with scholarly theories.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This is beautifully
demonstrated when Eco suddenly discards everything he has spent the
last dozen or so pages discussing and challenging his readers with by
introducing something called &lt;i&gt;'true history' &lt;/i&gt;into the equation. (7)
Eco doesn't define this&lt;i&gt; 'true history'&lt;/i&gt; but he does imply that he has
some kind of special knowledge that allows him to discern historical
fantasies from historical realities, but unfortunately he doesn't
tell us just what that is.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This is a shame really
as through the next pages; where he focuses on the idea of a jewish
conspiracy, Eco shows an almost laughable amount of reading and
knowledge about the history of anti-jewish ideas where he implies
that the idea of the&lt;i&gt; 'plot against the state'&lt;/i&gt; by an international
jewish conspiracy dates from Abbe Barruel's acceptance of the suggestion that Freemasonry and the Illuminati had
jewish origins. (8)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Eco doesn't seem to
realise that the literary idea of the world jewish conspiracy can be
reasonably dated back to at least the Romans who had first had
experience of just such conspiracy in the first, second and third
jewish revolts while the idea of a jewish conspiracy was also a
relatively common one in medieval Europe with ritual murder trials
and accusations of poisoning wells having these ideas as an
intellectual backdrop. Indeed we can see just such an ideas tacitly
espoused by authors as intellectually distant as Chaucer and
Shakespeare if we but care to think about they are necessarily
suggesting with their jewish characters for a moment.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Eco focuses on 
Goedsche's &lt;i&gt;'Biarritz'&lt;/i&gt; and particularly on his chapter relating to the
Prague cemetery in pointing out that this the scene is allegedly
inspired by one from Alexandre Dumas' &lt;i&gt;'Joseph Balsamo'&lt;/i&gt;. (9) This is
while claiming that Norman Cohn's conspiracy theory about the alleged
anti-Semitic origins of the Protocols of Zion in the Paris office of
the Okhrana (the Russian Secret Police) is the absolute truth even
though with even a little research Eco would have known that Cohn's
idea (while commonly accepted by popular writers) had been
significantly criticized by other scholars specializing in the study
of the Protocols of Zion such as Henri Rollin. (10) 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Indeed we should note
that Cohn's theory has been dealt a decisive blow by the most recent
study of the Protocols by Cesare de Michelis where he rightly points
out that Cohn's theory about Rachkovsky's and Golovinsky's
involvement in a conspiracy to 'write' the Protocols and blame the
jews is completely unfounded as it studiously ignores the element of
Russian interdepartmental struggles among many other things. (11)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
These stinging
scholarly debunks haven't dampened Eco's almost religious belief in
Cohn's theory though as he all but restates the theory in &lt;i&gt;'The Prague
Cemetery'&lt;/i&gt;  (12) seemingly without having noticed that the natural
narrative completely disagrees with his perceived natural (i.e.
artificial claiming to be natural without indicators) narrative.
After all if a natural (= truthful) narrative contradicts an
individual's artificial (= untruthful/fantasy) narrative then what
does Eco himself suggest happens?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
That's right: the
artificial narrative simply recasts itself as the natural narrative.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
So what does Eco do?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Well just that as he
claims that&lt;i&gt; 'scholars have shown'&lt;/i&gt; that the Protocols deal with end of
the nineteenth century French conservative preoccupations  (13)
however this is categorically wrong as it in the first place there is
no plural: Eco is only citing one scholar's controversial theory
(i.e. Cohn's). Also; for example, Cohn's claim about French fears
about Paris Metro being represented in the&lt;i&gt; 'subterranean tunnels'
&lt;/i&gt;comments in the Protocols text actually results; as de Michelis has
shown, (14) from a garbled translation of an original Russian verb
and not from&lt;i&gt; 'end of the nineteenth century French preoccupations'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The latter is of course
a rationalization to fit a particular theory, which in a delicious
irony is simply an artificial (fictional) narrative trying to make
out that it is actually a natural (truthful) narrative, which
effectively means that Eco has spent the best part of a chapter
talking about indicators and cues about interpretation and how they
can be difficult to spot for the non-expert: only then to fall into
just such a trap trying to prove his argument by using a subject he
hasn't done very much reading on.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If this wasn't enough
Eco makes some obvious misstatements of fact in that he repeatedly
quotes claims that only appear in the later editions of the Protocols
(particularly that of Sergei Nilus) (15) that; if he had read Cohn,
he should know are almost certainly interpolations of later editors
onto an original text that have nothing to do with the Protocols of
Zion per se. This in spite having drawn a rather innovative (if
limited) diagram of the evolution and influence of Goedsche's&lt;i&gt;
'Biarritz' &lt;/i&gt;text in relation to the Protocols to illustrate just this
on the next page! (16)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Eco simply forgets that
he is dealing with an &lt;i&gt;'open text'&lt;/i&gt;/&lt;i&gt;'open tradition'&lt;/i&gt; here as it suits
his argument to do so and instead uses a text he has to know he is
wrong to try and prove the truth of his contention as if it were the
actual text of the Protocols of Zion.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
It doesn't help his
case that Eco evidently hasn't checked the slightly reworked
republication of Goedsche's Prague cemetery chapter in the French
magazine &lt;i&gt;'Le Contemporain'&lt;/i&gt; in 1881, which was intended to be
fictional (as Bronner has implied) (17) but yet instructive. Yet Eco
claims it was misinterpretation by the editors of&lt;i&gt; 'Le Contemporain'
&lt;/i&gt;as being a real transcript when in fact Goedsche reworked said
chapter (as Eco doesn't seem to have noticed) because it had sold
well independently as a fictional work in Russia (18) and would also
fit nicely into the anti-jewish feeling gripping France at the time
(thus ensuring good sales).&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Essentially Eco is
alleging that there were a series of misunderstandings of Goedsche's
'Biarritz' chapter based on shared assumptions about the existence of
an international jewish plot and also because different European
anti-jewish individuals thought that said chapter was actually a
natural (= truthful) narrative as opposed to being  an artificial (=
fictional) narrative. This lead; in Eco's view, to the creation of
the Protocols of Zion and then to the alleged &lt;i&gt;'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; of the jews
during the Second World War. (19)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In fact it is only Eco
getting confused as he has continuously made erroneous statements in
relation to the Protocols text; in spite of the fact that he should
know better,  misrepresented the now-debunked opinion of one scholar
as being the academic consensus, not studied the sources he is citing
and most fundamentally made the same mistake he alleges others do in
mistaking an artificial narrative as being a natural narrative and
then constructing an intellectual position on the resultant  mental
Disneyland.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In short Eco exposes
himself in &lt;i&gt;'Six Walks in the Fictional Woods'&lt;/i&gt; to be not only flat out
wrong about the Protocols, but also quite the hypocrite as well.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(1) Umberto Eco, 2011,
 &lt;i&gt;'The Prague Cemetery'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Vintage: London&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(2) Robert Moore,
 2012, &lt;i&gt;'The War on Heresy: Faith and Power in Medieval Europe'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition, Profile: London, p. 345&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(3) Umberto Eco, 1994,
 &lt;i&gt;'Six Walks in the Fictional Woods'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Harvard
 University Press: Cambridge&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(4) Umberto Eco, 1989,&lt;i&gt;
 'The Open Work'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Harvard University Press:
 Cambridge&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(5) Eco, &lt;i&gt;'Six Walks in
 the Fictional Woods'&lt;/i&gt;, Op. Cit., pp. 117-131&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(6) Ibid, p. 129&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(7) Ibid, p. 131&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(8) Ibid, pp. 133-135&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(9) Ibid, p. 135&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(10) Cf. Henri Rollin,
 1991,&lt;i&gt; 'L'Apocalypse de Notre Temps: Les Dessous de la Propagande
 Allemande d'apres les Documents Inedits'&lt;/i&gt;, 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, 2
 Vols., Editions Allia: Paris&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(11) Cesare de
 Michelis, 2004, &lt;i&gt;'The Non-Existent Manuscript: A Study of the
 Protocols of the Sages of Zion'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, University
 of Nebraska Press: Lincoln, pp. 65-69; 122&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(12) Eco,&lt;i&gt; 'The Prague
 Cemetery'&lt;/i&gt;, Op. Cit., pp. 529-54&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(13) Eco,&lt;i&gt; 'Six Walks in
 the Fictional Woods'&lt;/i&gt;, Op. Cit., p. 137&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(14) de Michelis, Op.
 Cit., pp. 92-93&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(15) Eco,&lt;i&gt; 'Six Walks in
 the Fictional Woods'&lt;/i&gt;, Op. Cit., p. 137&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(16) Ibid, p. 138&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(17) Stephen Eric
 Bronner, 2003, &lt;i&gt;'A Rumor about the Jews: Antisemitism, Conspiracy,
 and the Protocols of Zion'&lt;/i&gt;, 1st Edition, Oxford University Press:
 New York, p. 82&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(18) de Michelis, Op.
 Cit., pp. 49-50&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(19) Eco,&lt;i&gt; 'Six Walks in
 the Fictional Woods'&lt;/i&gt;, Op. Cit., p. 137&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
</description><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SemiticControversies/~3/lMpvjr6m-qA/umberto-eco-and-his-fictional-case.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Karl Radl)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/03/umberto-eco-and-his-fictional-case.html</feedburner:origLink></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8878064790402161553.post-4279220322411813057</guid><pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2013-03-25T15:46:32.791-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Judaism</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">United Kingdom</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jewish Loyalty</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Judeo-Christians</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">jews</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Holocaust Survivors</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Roman Catholic Church</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Sarah Cohen</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Costly Roots</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Christianity</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism 2.0</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Protestantism</category><title>The Case of Sarah Cohen</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
As I have remarked on
several occasions before: I have a long standing interest in what may
be called &lt;i&gt;'jewish conversion'&lt;/i&gt; literature. Or put in simpler terms:
accounts written by jews or about jews who have converted to
non-jewish faiths from Judaism. This interest stems largely from the
fact that conversion literature is a central piece of evidence for
the importance of viewing the jews in anti-Semitic rather than simply
anti-Zionist or anti-Judaic terms.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The point is simple
enough in that if a jew still retains loyalty to the jewish people in
spite of having actively chosen to follow a different religious
system. Then it tells us that jewishness has to go beyond confessing
a belief in the tenets of Judaism and also beyond jewish nationalism
(i.e. the various forms of Zionism) as if an individual remains in
his or her mind a jew after disregarding the tenets of Judaism and
rejecting jewish nationalism then they cannot be taken to be the
definitive border of jewishness.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The contrast with
non-jews is simple enough to make in that if you or me as a gentiles
dear reader wished to convert to say Buddhism then we would describe
ourselves as Buddhists would we not? We wouldn't say that we were
Buddhist Christians or Christian Buddhists now would we? Similarly a
person born into and brought up in the Islamic faith who decides that
they believe there is no god (atheism) does not  become an Islamic
Atheist or a Muslim Atheist: now do they?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
However when a jew
converts to another religion they become a Jewish Muslim, a Jewish
Christian or a Buddhist jew which suggests to us in terms of
self-description&lt;i&gt; 'Jew'&lt;/i&gt; or&lt;i&gt; 'Jewish' &lt;/i&gt;does not signify the belief in a
particular religious creed or necessarily an affinity with jewish
nationalism, but rather is a description of national origin. In other
words &lt;i&gt;'Jew' &lt;/i&gt;or &lt;i&gt;'Jewish'&lt;/i&gt; is actually equivalent not to a religious
confession like Christianity or Buddhism, but rather a nation like
being of German, Russian, Brazilian or Japanese origin.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
After all we can have a
German Christian, a Japanese Buddhist or a Brazilian Muslim, but we
can't have a Christian Muslim or a Buddhist Hindu can we?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Now if we come back to&lt;i&gt;
'jewish conversion'&lt;/i&gt; literature we can easily see how intellectually
powerful it can be for us as the jews concerned have; in affirming
their jewishness over and above their new religious confession, given
us tangible evidence that loyalty to their jewishness and their
self-description as thus transcends their religious or even their
political beliefs. This makes their jewishness their defining aspect
not their religious creed, which means in effect that a jewish
convert to say Christianity or a jewish atheist who believes in the
tenets of Marxism-Leninism still fundamentally identifies themselves
as being jewish.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This is important
precisely because in doing so it necessarily creates a system of dual
loyalty among the jews as on the one hand they profess to be loyal to
their religious and/or political creed, but at the same time they
show loyalty to their jewish origins by suggesting that they are a
nation in and of themselves. What this means is that the
long-standing anti-jewish argument of dual loyalty; most famously
brought out in the Dreyfus Affair in France, and the more current
variant of jewish dual loyalty to both their host country and Israel
plus a separate argument as to whether or not the jews can
meaningfully integrate into a host country at all outside of actually
mating with its inhabitants.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
One such case which
nicely demonstrates the permanence of the jewish question as well as
their separation from the rest of the population is that of Sarah
Cohen. (1) Sarah Cohen; an otherwise unremarkable jewess from London,
started out as a post-World War II baby being born in May 1946 to a
father who she claims was a&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust survivor'&lt;/i&gt;. (2) 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Her father;  Thomas
Cohen, was supposedly captured in North Africa in 1942 and in spite
of being named Cohen it seems the Germans were so dim as to have
taken some time to work out that he was jewish. When they did he was
allegedly shipped off to Auschwitz by the Germans and we are told
while there he himself witnessed the alleged homicidal gassings of
the jews. Apparently Private Cohen only survived because another
inmate &lt;i&gt;'knew'&lt;/i&gt; about the gassings and told him to claim he was
cobbler, which façade he managed to keep up till the Soviet army
turned up.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This is of course
highly suspect as if Cohen had in fact &lt;i&gt;'witnessed' &lt;/i&gt;the gassings then
he would have been of signal importance to the orthodox holocaustians
given that while they are not short on alleged eyewitnesses: they are
very short on credible ones who don't contradict each other on just
about every point of fact.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
However it does nicely
indicate; as it is given a small chapter with the pejorative name
&lt;i&gt;'The Nazi Menace'&lt;/i&gt;, that Cohen feels her jewish identity very strongly
in spite of having been a Christian for some fifty odd years at the
time she came to write her autobiography such as it is.  Indeed she
recounts a story of when a local Baptist minister; a Mr. McNicol,
realised that she was jewish and told her that she was especially
&lt;i&gt;'fortunate' &lt;/i&gt;to come from such &lt;i&gt;'distinguished' &lt;/i&gt;stock. (3)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
There is no reason for
Cohen to include that particular anecdote at that point in time other
than to reinforce the point that her jewish origins make her special
or&lt;i&gt; 'chosen'&lt;/i&gt; among Christians or put another way jewish Christians are
somehow superior to non-jewish Christians.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
We can further see this
in Cohen's rather off-hand comment that her spiritual life; as a jew
converted to Christianity, was based on fullness of Christianity
rather than those of the gentile Christians around who she attacks
for not doing things because they believed them to be immoral, but
because other Christians would not approve. (4) She tells us in
effect that jews are taught to live the fullness of their religion
while Christians are not so therefore as a jew she is helping &lt;i&gt;'teach'&lt;/i&gt;
the Christians how to practice Christianity properly.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This is also
demonstrated rather nicely when Cohen attacks Roman Catholics; as
well as other gentile Christians, for not taking sin seriously enough
and suggests that the jewish attitude to sin is actually the correct
one that once again she; as a jewess, has to teach the gentiles. (5)
This belief that gentile Christians don't really know what
Christianity is, but Cohen; as a jewish Christian, does  is also
evident when she somewhat carelessly implies that Christians who
contradict her particular doctrinal beliefs have a tendency to have
psychotic episodes or need mental help in some form. (6)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This isn't particularly
helped by the belief that Cohen espouses; and presumably still does,
that all her footsteps are guided directly by God (7) and this
concomitantly means she is a kind of pseudo-prophet of God's will or
at the very least her footsteps and actions are predestined to some
mysterious purpose by God (a-la Calvin's theological ideas). It
doesn't also help that Cohen allegedly was the subject of a minor
medical miracle apparently caused by prayer, (8) but then jews have
always been in the miracle business haven't they?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The irony is of course
that Cohen puts her biological jewishness in the words of others. She
has a Mr. Harper; owner of a Christian bookshop in Rotherham, say
that she is a member of&lt;i&gt; 'God's Chosen Race' &lt;/i&gt;and that she doesn't stop
being jewish by converting to Christianity. (9) Cohen naturally
narrates herself denying this but this is obviously a bit of
fictional narrative that has been inserted by  Cohen to put forth the
uncomfortable idea; for gentile Christians anyway, that jewishness is
biological and independent of religious confession.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Had this been a real
conversion we might have expected some rather different wording on
Mr. Harper's part in relation to Cohen having&lt;i&gt; 'fortunate' &lt;/i&gt;heritage
(like Mr. McNicol) or some such as opposed to couching it in very
specifically jewish terminology (i.e. a&amp;nbsp;descendant&amp;nbsp;of the ancient
Israelites would be a more orthodox and common way of putting it for
a Christian as opposed to implying; as Cohen's text does, that jews
are still the masters of the universe as opposed to being part of the
multitude chosen by God now).&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
It is clear from
Cohen's narrative that she ardently associates herself with being
jewish in terms of national origin (she not once describes herself as
British or English only as jewish for example) and Christianity to
her is merely an extension of her jewishness into her confession of
faith. Cohen approaches her Christianity first and foremost as a
jewess and as the recipient of a special personal revelation based on
 that heritage, (10) because to her Christianity is simply her
ancestral Judaism where the long-awaited Messiah has come and told
the jews to become Christians so as to repair the world in the name
of Yahweh (i.e. the concept of Tikkun Olam in Judaism).&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Cohen is then an ideal
example of what I have argued exists in my article&lt;i&gt; 'Why I am an
anti-Semite' &lt;/i&gt;(11) in that jews will naturally look at any religious
or political ideology through a uniquely jewish perception and
consciously or unconsciously seek to modify that religious or
political ideology into reflecting their own egoistic ethnic
priorities as jews. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This then means that
the epistemological break in early Christianity between its early
jewish followers and its early gentile followers is replicated when a
jew converts to Christianity not only because a jew understands
Christianity differently than a gentile, but also because a jew will
seek to turn Christianity into Judaism because that is what a jew
naturally understands Christianity to be.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The crux of the issue
is that jews are loyal only to themselves and should be viewed as the
eternal outsider: the kind of individual you may let join in with a
group activity, but won't tolerate any nuisance from because of the
potential disruptive influence. 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
If you let the town
drunkard run the town then one wonders why we can be surprised that
purchasing alcohol becomes cheap and easy in the town's shops?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(1) She tells her
 story in Sarah Cohen, 2008,&lt;i&gt; 'Costly Roots'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition,
 Crossbridge: Martley&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(2) Ibid, pp. 20-21&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(3) Ibid, p. 9&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(4) Ibid, p. 41&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(5) Ibid, p. 30&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(6) Ibid, p. 51&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(7) Ibid, p. 62&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(8) Ibid, pp. 73-74&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(9) Ibid, p. 67&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(10) Related by another
 jew on Ibid, pp. 123-124&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(11) This can be found
 at the following address:
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2010/06/why-i-am-anti-semite.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2010/06/why-i-am-anti-semite.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Agobard
of Lyons is a ninth century Christian bishop well-known to students
of early medieval jewish history in part because he was involved in
encouraging the active prosecution of the jews in Frankish kingdom
under Charlemagne's son Louis the Pious. He wrote several treatises
against the jews; none of which are more than a few pages long, which
are filled with information about them and scholars agree (often
grudgingly) that Agobard was well acquainted with jewish culture and
Judaism (although as far as we know he himself wasn't of jewish
origin) in spite of being a fanatical opponent of both.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'On the
Baptism of Jewish Slaves' &lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;is the first of Agobard's writings against
the jews appearing in 823 AD and was followed by four others in the
next five years, which charts his struggle against the power of the
jews in the Frankish court.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;As
no English translation I know of has appeared of these texts I have
decided to translate the Latin original into modern English as these
texts are not well-known but are of inherent value to anti-jewish
thought precisely because they are rich in contextual information as
well as highlighting a period of time when Christianity was a major
force against Judaism as opposed to trying to placate it as is common
now. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;To
do this I have taken the text of Agobard's work from the&lt;i&gt; 'Patrologia
Latina'&lt;/i&gt; (Vol. 104, Col. 173-178) and translated it in relation to the
meaning of text as to translate much of what Agobard says literally
would be largely meaningless to most readers. I have also taken the
liberty here and there of inserting qualifying words and phrases as
to make the meaning clear without resorting to footnotes and thus
hopefully making Agobard's text less stilted than it originally was.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;To
wit:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'&lt;b&gt;On
the Baptism of Jewish Slaves&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;To
the most holy and blessed of men, Bishop Hilduin and the Abbot Wala
from Agobard their most humble servant.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;In
your prudent gentleness I have presumed to write the following to you
both, because without you I would know little and as you are known to
be helpers of our most Christian emperor: therefore you will always
be well regarded at court and will always be vigilant in searching
out doctrinal error and heresy.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;If
this influence and search for the enemies of the faith is to be
maintained: you have to be prudent in your suggestions and
encouragement to those who would aid us in this struggle. I write to
each of you to relate the conversion of a Jewish woman to
Christianity; who is now blessedly transferred to the grace of
Christ, and suffering of severe persecution for the faith she has
received in Christ and in this case there is little better example of
womanhood. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And
so now the cause of this persecution of Christians; which is a common
error of the wicked, which I hope you will be pleased to read
signifying your continuing regard for my work.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
Jews use a law; as given to them by the Emperor, to boast that
without the consent of the owner no one can baptise Jewish slave.
That is not believed by us; as Christians, at all, as that is to
claim that from the court of the most Christian of Christians came
forth a decree which is un-Christian in nature. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;For
the Emperor knows very well that your eminences; beloved of God, have
instructed him in the same way that the holy apostles did from the
beginning of the Church. From his teaching we see that Christianity
is in reality a precept of the truth, by which; without any
discrimination between the nations or any exceptional conditions, it
is instructed of us as Christians that we shall: 'Go and make
disciples of all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father
and of the Son and Holy Spirit.' &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And
again: 'You shall go into the world, and preach the gospel of the
Almighty. He that believes and is baptised shall be saved.' That and
all the rulers of the faith and who are consistent in that faith, all
the successors of the early Church, all of the servants, and not only
the men, but also the women and children of the Emperors and Consuls,
and by preaching to convert them to the faith, with no mention of
having scrupled to ask for permission to baptise the servants from
the masters. This is easy to recognize historically, especially in
light of the apostolic letter that clearly demonstrates this. For at
the end of the Epistle to the Philippians (4:22) we read: 'All the
saints salute you, chiefly they that are of Caesar's household.'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;This
refers; as it was written in the time of Nero who was one of the most
impious men who has ever lived, to those of Caesar's household who
ministered to his court and as no one doubts that the preaching of
the apostles converted these servants: they would never have been
able to be sanctified by the grace of baptism if Caesar's permission
had been sought. For in this matter those who live in the greatest
fear of persecution are not only the unbelievers; lest they should
come to the faith, but also those who have already embraced the
faith. Hence the generals of Christianity; the masters and teachers
of the faith, saw in Christian doctrine a science that was to be
propounded among the nations in order to furiously slay the atrocity
of unbelief.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
the Epistle of Timothy; after he had commanded that all men should
pray to God, the Apostle states: 'For this is good and they took in
the sight of God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved, and to
come to the knowledge of the truth. For we are one again, and there
is but one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus, who
gave himself as a ransom for all.' And to Titus; in relation to old
men and women, children, young men and all slaves, he explained the
proper law: 'For the grace of God our Saviour has appeared to all
men, instructing us,' and so on. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;If
therefore; in order to clearly proves these examples, it is the will
of God our Saviour that all men are to be saved and should be brought
to a knowledge of the truth and are to be reconciled through one
mediator between God and man (the man who gave himself as a ransom
for all). Then if by the grace of reconciliation and salvation to all
without shedding light on distinctions or putting limitations on the
goodness of God: it is wrong to make such laws if one is a Christian
and in addition to this it appoints the wicked as a court of appeal
over those who would be righteous. This then would put the wicked
Jews in a position where their stubborn disbelief in the faith of
Christ allowed them the ability to blaspheme in public and private
without legal recourse, which would therefore only strengthen their
disbelief.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
short it is easy to see that if we piously consider the one
omnipotent God; the just creator of  all, who formed the first man
out of the clay of the earth and the first woman out of man's rib:
then the whole human race is from a single source and has grown from
a single root, which means that all men and women are but one large
family. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And
although the equal and just judgement of sin and of all secret things
past and present occurs: some are born to a variety of honours (i.e.
are wealthy and influential – KR) while others are born cowering in
the yoke of bondage (i.e. to be low-born or more precisely to be born
into slavery – KR). There can be a way shown to all these men and
women; from the ministry of Christ, an equality of spirit as we need
but inwardly imagine man to be his own foundation beholden to no
other man, to no angels and to no one at all other than the only
creature he wants himself to be subject to: God.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Hence;
in divine law, every man is a slave of the mind beholden only to God
expressed when we are admonished: 'Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God,
and him only shalt thou serve.' &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And
the Apostle; in regard to the diversity of the nations and the
freedom of all to worship his Creator, teaches in just such a way:
'Regard the old man within you by his own deeds, and look to your
neighbours, who are being renewed in the divine knowledge, and see
the image of him that created them: where there is no Greek or Jew,
circumcised or uncircumcised, Barbarian or Scythian, slave or free,
but Christ is all and in all.'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;When,
therefore, those who are to be baptised; by doing so acknowledge the
Creator in their inner life so that they may be free of spiritual
slavery, are held by back by the wishes of their wicked masters who
can hinder or help them in achieving the renewal of their souls:
should this be legal?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
his letter to Timothy the Apostle gave the following instruction:
'Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as
worthy of all honour, that the name of the Lord and his doctrine be
not blasphemed. They that have believing masters, let them not
despise them, by which they are brethren, but do them service,
because they are faithful,' and so on. (1 Tim. 6:1) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;In
these words evidently directed towards the servants, some of whom
were Christians and of whom some were unbelievers, he is speaking to
both believers and unbelievers. In these words the apostle is
evidently speaking to the servants; who he assumes to be Christian
believers, but also he is also talking to unbelievers who serve their
master. This is because the unbelieving servant can be lead into the
true faith by the example of the believers or of a believing master.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;We
learn that Onesimus a slave of Philemon's; whom the Apostle Paul had
converted to and baptised in the faith of Christ in prison, complains
that he has been rejected by Philemon and Philemon is instructed by
Paul to take him back. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Those
who wish to follow the commands which stem, as it were, from the
imperial authority and fear to transgress these are caught between
two dangers. If we observe this imperial command, ignoring the rules
of the Church, we offend God and if we follow God's command: we face
the wrath of the Emperor. The Jews cannot be trusted not to use their
influence in the palace to attack our efforts on behalf of Christ. Do
not count on their meekness as doing so will bring problems and
persecution for ourselves and also those who we have been able to
convert to the faith as it will throw an impediment in the way of the
spread of Christianity among the Jews. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Hence,
representatives of the most high and loving God, as it were, as your
special strength is your pious minds and learning, intercede with the
most Christian Emperor and see if this obstacle can be removed from
the path of the holy work of the Church. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;To
great men, and the greatest of which is the most just, have been
given the reigns of government. We should trust that the love of the
merciful goodness of Christ himself should come to our aid, lest the
souls, from which he was able to be increase the flock of the
faithful and for the salvation of which the universal Church; by the
Passion of the Lord God, has been entrusted should become&amp;nbsp;imperiled&amp;nbsp;by removal of legal sanction against public opposition to the
commandments of God which are the snares of the devil intended to
deceived man. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;In
all events we have established from the sacred canons that if any of
the Jews wish to be baptised, the bishop, if he wishes, to redeem
them or any other of the faithful should have jurisdiction and not
the Emperor.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;What
we do willingly admit is that this only requires them to come to
faith. This shouldn't be taken  as removing their material status as
slaves, but rather that sons of Christ are no longer slaves in spirit
so that they might come to the faith as unbelievers should.'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The Tale of Gamelyn is
the name given to an English ballad that came down to us through the
agency of Geoffrey Chaucer and more specifically through his famous&lt;i&gt;
'Canterbury Tales'&lt;/i&gt;. The Tale of Gamelyn is agreed to have not
actually been written by Chaucer himself; based on stylistic
differences and the socio-legal system described, (1) but was to be
used as the basis for some of the unfinished Canterbury Tales such as
the Cook's Tale. (2)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The Tale of Gamelyn;
unlike other ballads of its type and era, is inordinately focused on
legal procedures (3) and the original author of the work is likely to
have been a law clerk or a legal advocate considering the depth of
legal knowledge that is exhibited by the author. (4) We can also use
the precise nature of this legal knowledge and terminology to date
the composition of the Tale of Gamelyn to around 1350. (5)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Unlike the other
ballads it is often compared to; such as those of Hereward the Wake,
Eustace the Monk and Robin Hood,  the Tale of Gamelyn does not appear
to have been based on a historical individual or at least a
historical individual we can reasonably speculate was the primary
source. Part of the problem of course is because we do not know the
real author of the Tale of Gamelyn and we do not even know from which
part of England the tale originally derives: so it is rather
difficult to locate a starting point in such a search.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
It is likely that if
the author was a practitioner of the law then he based the ballad on
a particular court case or created it out of a composite of different
court cases in which he was involved. In spite of the author's
anonymity the Tale of Gamelyn had a major impact on English
literature as it was the basis for Shakespeare's play &lt;i&gt;'As You Like
It'&lt;/i&gt; as well as Anthony Munday's version of Robin Hood, which served
as the basis for the a large portion of the modern version of the
Robin Hood legend. (6)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The Tale of Gamelyn as
a transitional piece of English literature is absolutely key in the
evolution of modern legends away from their early to high medieval
roots and into the early modern era. (7) One of the aspects of these
legends that evolved through the Tale of Gamelyn was the changing
character of the opponents of these eponymous heroes in that the
original opponents of Robin Hood were almost certainly jews (8) as
they would have been for both the historical (9) and mythical (10)
Eustace the Monk.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In the Robin Hood
ballads in particular there was a substantial shift away from the
jews being the avaricious money-lenders and the Catholic religious
institutions of the day (particularly monasteries and the sees of
Bishops) moving in to the ballads to replace them between the
probable origin of the ballads in the mid-late 1200s and the first
printed versions of the ballads we have from the early-mid 1400s.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The reason for this
shift is rather simple in that the jews; as the butt of complaints
from the common people and the elite, had largely ceased to a problem
with their expulsion from the kingdom of England in 1290 by Edward I.
This meant that another group would inevitably have to step into the
money-lender vacuum formerly occupied by the jews: that group was the
institutions of the Catholic Church. The Church had by this time
acquired substantial amounts of land; often deriving from grants from
nobles as socially encouraged &lt;i&gt;'good works' &lt;/i&gt;designed to lessen the
amount of time the individual concerned had to send in purgatory, and
with land ownership came wealth.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Wealth; in its liquid
or in kind form [i.e. money or goods/services], could be lent to the
less wealthy or those in need of it for profit, but the charging of
interest (usury) was forbidden under canon law: the Church instead
encouraged the traditional system of encouraging gifts of wealth to
the lenders in lieu of interest for having had the generosity to
grant a loan.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This meant that with
the jews largely gone: they ceased to play an active part in the
lives of most of the population of England and thus no longer were
credible enemies or figures of fun on which ballad writers could
draw. They naturally found their new target in the successors to the
jews as money-lenders, which is given expression in the Tale of
Gamelyn and the revisions of the older ballads of Robin Hood by the
hero's disdain for the clergy in general, while reserving particular
venom for the high clergy who to them were the new jews in their
lives.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This means that when we
read in the ballad that Gamelyn would show no mercy to monks, canons
and abbots;  (11) as well as the point that the common people did not
wish him to, (12) then we should actually read it as Gamelyn and the
common people's declaration of war on the money-lenders represented
by the Church, but who had formerly been the jews.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
We are also told that
Gamelyn forcibly took wealth only from these same people (i.e. the
lords of the Church) and not from the common people (13) again
suggesting that the story of Gamelyn is an attack on the position of
the usurious money-lenders who were still plaguing England in place
of the jews who had originally created that position and; after their
expulsion for being too usurious, the vacuum.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In essence then we
should read the Tale of Gamelyn as a transitional piece of English
literature linking the early-high medieval world that was under siege
from the jews to the supposedly jew free world where the institutions
of the Catholic Church had moved in to take over the money-lending
businesses of the jews.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This means of course
that Gamelyn is actually recommending the expropriation of the Church
and if necessary the murder of its agents as a symbolic struggle
against usurious money-lenders. So had the Tale of Gamelyn been
written 50 years earlier we would not find Gamelyn attacking the
Church and seeking to expropriate wealth her, but rather seeking to
expropriate and murder the jews.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Interesting what a
difference a few years can make: isn't it?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(1) John Bellamy, 1985,
&lt;i&gt;'Robin Hood: An Historical Enquiry'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Croom
Helm: Sydney, pp. 63-66&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(2) James Holt, 1989,&lt;i&gt;
 'Robin Hood'&lt;/i&gt;, 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Thames and Hudson: London, pp.
 72-73&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(3) Bellamy, Op. Cit.,
 pp. 63-64&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(4) Ibid, p. 66&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(5) Holt, p. 72&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(6) Stephen Knight,
 2003, &lt;i&gt;'Robin Hood: A Mythic Biography'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; Edition,
 Cornell University Press: Ithaca, p. 62&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(7) David Baldwin,
 2011, &lt;i&gt;'Robin Hood: The English Outlaw Unmasked'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition, Amberley: Stroud, p. 177&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(8) See the following
 article:
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/robin-hood-and-jews.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/02/robin-hood-and-jews.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(9) See the following
 article:
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/eustace-monk-philip-ii-of-france-and.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/02/eustace-monk-philip-ii-of-france-and.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(10) See the following
 article:
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/03/eustace-monk-black-magic-and-jews.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/03/eustace-monk-black-magic-and-jews.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(11) Tale of Gamelyn,
 Fytte 4&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(12) Ibid.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(13) Ibid, Fytte 6&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Valerius
Maximus is one of the least known of classical Roman writers in part
because his only extant work &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;'Memorable Deeds and Sayings'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is merely
a collection of excerpts culled from the work of other writers. That
said in his day Maximus was a significant literary figure (although
we know of no other work by him extant or otherwise) as he was part
of the literary circle that included such famous writers as Ovid (1) and he
appears to have had some connection; via patronage, to the
Julio-Claudian Imperial dynasty: specifically the Emperor Tiberius.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Even
though Maximus isn't well known: his work is invaluable to historians and this is particularly so in relation to the issue of
the jews in the city of Rome. The reason for this is quite simple as
Maximus tells us that the jews were expelled from Rome in 139 BC (our only mention of this event). (2)
The passage concerned (which are Maximus' only mention of the jews) is as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'Story
as recorded by Julius Paris: During the consulship of Marcus
Popillius Laenas and Gnaeus Calpurnius, the praetor for foreigners,
Gnaeus Cornelius Hispanus, issued an edict ordering the Chaldaeans to
leave the city and Italy within ten days. The praetor felt that they
deceived frivolous and silly people with their dishonest
interpretation of the stars and cultivated a money-making air of
obscurity with their lies. The Jews had tried to corrupt Roman values
with their cult of Jupiter Sabazius, so the praetor forced them go to
back to their home.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Story
as recorded by Nepotianus: Cornelius Hispanus expelled the Chaldaeans
from the city and ordered them to leave Italy within ten days to
prevent them making money out of their foreign science. The Jews had
tried to pass their religion on to Romans, so Hispanus expelled them
from the city and demolished their private altars in all public
places.'&lt;/i&gt; (3)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
interpretation of this is fairly straight forward in that we can see
that Cornelius Hispanus sought to purge the city of Rome of
non-Romans who were causing harm to Roman citizens by alternatively
cheating them out of their money or trying to corrupt them by luring
them into anti-Roman religious cults.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
Chaldaeans [= Mesopotamians] are held to be proverbial soothsayers
with a particular focus on the divining of the future with the use
of the Zodiac (&lt;i&gt;'the stars'&lt;/i&gt;) and to be also using the idea that their
predictions have a &amp;nbsp;prophetic quality in order to make money from the Roman
people.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
jews on the other hand are held to be trying to; in Maximus' words,
&lt;i&gt;'pass their religion onto Romans'&lt;/i&gt; in the form of the cult of Jupiter
Sabazius.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
reader at this point may very well be scratching their head wondering
how this should be understood, but we can quickly shed light on the
meaning by pointing out that the likeliest explanation is that
Maximus confused Yahweh (who is primarily worshiped on the Sabbath)
with the eastern variant of the cult of Dionysus (i.e. the cult of
Sabazius) (4) which was often done by early Roman writers. (5)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;So
the passage from Maximus should actually read as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'The
Jews had tried to corrupt Roman values with their cult of Yahweh, so
the praetor forced them go to back to their home.'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
makes a lot more sense now: doesn't it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
essence: the jews were in Rome proselytizing among the Roman people
in the name of Yahweh and probably on the basis that the worship of
Yahweh was but another mystery religion. What is interesting about
this is very simply that Simon Maccabee's envoys had arrived in Rome
some three years before this in 142 BC. (6)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is unlikely to be a coincidence given that the emissaries of a jewish
zealot arrive in Rome and three years later Rome promptly throws out
the Chaldaeans and the jews for duping the locals on the one hand and
proselytizing on the other. Regardless of whether this was a Roman
public relations move to blame foreigners (as Gruen argues) (7) what
is difficult to cogently explain away is the historical coincidence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
solution to this conundrum is actually fairly simple in so far as
Gruen and Feldman both assume that the Chaldaeans and the jews are two
different groups of people, because Maximus suggests they were. However; as Gruen tells us, (8) the Seleucid monarch Antiochus III
had resettled a large community of jews from Mesopotamia and
Babylonia (i.e. some of the descendants of the jews of the Babylonian
captivity) between 188 and 191 BC in Phyrgia in what is now western
central Turkey. (9)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is likely to be the origin of the community of jews in Rome as
those that Antiochus III had settled were intended to be troops in
his army and some would have inevitably been taken prisoner and been
transported back to Rome as slaves in the myriad of small scale wars
between local client kings, Rome and the Seleucid empire. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;On
the other hand one has to ask the question; which Gruen notably does
not, of how the Mesopotamians and Babylonians also came to be in Rome
at this time as well as why those two groups? Why not other groups
such as Syrians which were more numerous in the Seleucid armies and
had their own religious traditions?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
short: why the Mesopotamians/Babylonians and the jews?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Well
we know that the likeliest group origin for the jews concerned would
from Mesopotamia and Babylon [i.e. before they were transplanted into
Phrygia by Antiochus III a relatively short time before] so then why do we separate the groups?
Maximus; as well as the Roman authorities at the time, wouldn't have
been able to distinguish between the jews who took their ancestral
religion very seriously identifying as jews and those jews who
preferred more secular assimilated lives identifying as
Babylonians/Mesopotamians.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Is
it not more likely than instead of two groups (one jewish and one
not) from Mesopotamia and Babylon that we in fact have one and those
labelled the jews by Maximus were the highly religious element, while
those labelled as Chaldaeans were the secular assimilated element? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is further suggested by the fact that the Chaldaeans were not
expelled for trying to convert Romans to their religious ways, while
the jews were (suggesting that the Chaldaeans concerned were either not very religious or held to similar religious beliefs as the jews). This would be odd precisely because Babylonia and
Mesopotamia had a very strong and well known religious heritage and identity as well
as the fact that their belief system; from what we know of it, was
based (like most) on confession of faith as opposed to ancestral
caste (like Judaism) so would have been an ideal candidate for a
spreading foreign faith among the Roman people.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
essence we have to ask ourselves why the Chaldaeans were expelled for
secular crimes and the jews expelled for religious crimes?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
simplest answer is that they were two groups of jews: one more secular and assimilated which self-described as being Babylonian/Mesopotamian (hence the
Roman description of them) while the other was more religious and
self-described as jewish based on the mythos of their new religious tradition (hence
their being ascribed correctly as jews).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is further pointed to by the entry into the city of the ambassadors
of Simon Maccabee in 142 BC as the presence of these envoys of
revived and fanatical jewishness may have acted as a catalyst for a
substantial split in the jewish community between those who embraced
this new identity (i.e. the jews of Maximus) and those who embraced
the traditional identity of their captivity (i.e. the Chaldaeans of
Maximus).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
would then have caused an increasingly vicious split between the two
groups of jews leading to the increased visibility of what both
groups were up to in the streets of Rome: one conning the Romans with
false divination and the other trying to con the Romans into becoming
initiates into the cult of Yahweh (as&lt;i&gt; 'god-fearers'&lt;/i&gt; rather than jews
bearing in mind that jewishness in Judaism; then as now, is equated
with being descended from the Israelites).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
Roman praetor responsible for overseeing this increasingly
problematic group; Hispanus, then simply decided to be rid of the
problem the community presented and expelled them all from the city.
That the jews found their way back in and had a flourishing community
some 80 years later does not detract from this, but should rather be
seen as part of the typical cycle of expulsion and the; after some years
have elapsed, re-admittance of the jews that is found in both the
ancient and the medieval/early modern world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;However
there is another angle to this expulsion that does need to be briefly
brought out in relation to the subversion of Roman religion by the
jews. In that we know that Hellenized jews had a big hand in writing
the Sibylline Oracles (particularly the third book) [composed circa
140 to 160 BC] which declared that Rome would be enslaved by an Asian
power which ruled all the Asian peoples (in the jewish view this
power would have been Judea and accorded with Yahweh's gift to the
jews of their &lt;i&gt;'chosen'&lt;/i&gt; status and their role as the &lt;i&gt;'light unto the nations'&lt;/i&gt;). (10)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Further;
as Feldman notes, (11) Hellenized jews (which the Maximus'
&lt;i&gt;'Chaldaeans'&lt;/i&gt; could also refer to in whole or in part) had long been
trying to convert Romans to the worship of Yahweh of which the famous
&lt;i&gt;'Letter of Aristeas'&lt;/i&gt; is but the best known example. (12) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;We
need to recognise that both of these independent facts suggest to us
that the jewish religious activity in Rome was not nearly as benign
or harmless as is commonly believed, because we know of jewish
communities across the Mediterranean taking part in conspiracies to
kill Romans (in 88 BC), we also know that the jews were faking
religious prophecy to cause panic among the Romans (part of the
Sibylline Oracles) and that the less religious jews (the&lt;i&gt;
'Hellenizers'&lt;/i&gt; as opposed to the&lt;i&gt; 'Zealots'&lt;/i&gt;) were also engaging in
anti-Roman activity in addition to their fundamentalist kin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This;
combined with the neat coincidence of jews faking religious prophecy
explicitly for Roman consumption in the years before the expulsion
and the so-called Chaldaeans doing more or less the same thing but
for profit, suggests that the expulsion of the jews from Rome in 139
BC was a preventative measure taken by Hispanus in order to remove
the threat of the jews; divided into two squabbling factions, from
the city.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;It
also provides suggestive evidence for why the jews were able to
conspire and revolt across the eastern Mediterranean at least three
times in the course of the three centuries that followed in so far as
the key issue was control. The jewish community needed to be closely
controlled by religious leaders which was the case in the later
jewish revolts, but was likely not the case in Rome in 139 BC as the
two factions (the secular jews and the religious jews) were openly
squabbling leading to the unearthing of their activities before they
were in a powerful enough position to attack the city of Rome from
the inside as they later did to other Roman cities in the third
jewish revolt.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(1) For
 Ovid's comments on the jews please see the following article:
 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/ovid-on-jews.html" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/04/ovid-on-jews.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(2) Erich
 Gruen, 2002,&lt;i&gt; 'Diaspora: Jews against Greeks and Romans'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Harvard University Press: Cambridge, p. 15&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(3) Val.
 Max. 1:3.3 (cf. Henry John Walker, 2004,&lt;i&gt; 'Valerius Maximus:
 Memorable Deeds and Sayings'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Hackett:
 Indianapolis, p. 14)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(4) Gruen,
 Op. Cit., p. 16&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(5) Louis
 Feldman, 1993,&lt;i&gt; 'Jew and Gentile in the Ancient World: Attitudes and
 Interactions from Alexander to Justinian'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition,
 Princeton University Press: Princeton, p. 151&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(6) Gruen,
 Op. Cit., p. 17; Menahem Stern, 1980,&lt;i&gt; 'Greek and Latin Authors on
 Jews and Judaism'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Vol. II, Israel Academy
 of Sciences and Humanities: Jerusalem, pp. 359-360&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(7) Ibid,
 pp. 17-19&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(8) Ibid,
 p. 17&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(9) The
 descendants of these same jews were also involved in the mass murder
 of Romans across the eastern Mediterranean in 88 BC (cf. Adrienne
 Mayor, 2010, &lt;i&gt;'The Poison King: The Life and Legend of Mithradates,
 Rome's Deadliest Enemy'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Princeton
 University Press: Princeton, pp. 19; 153)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(10) Ibid,
 p. 35&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(11) Feldman,
 Op. Cit., pp. 150-151&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(12) For
 the text of this see:
 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ccel.org/c/charles/otpseudepig/aristeas.htm" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://www.ccel.org/c/charles/otpseudepig/aristeas.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Lucius
Apuleius of Madaurus; better known as either Lucius or Apuleius, was
a second century Roman polymath and the author of numerous books on
topics as disparate as philosophical commentaries on Plato, practical
magic, the mechanics of universe and agriculture. Apuleius is also
the only Latin novelist whose work;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'Metamorphoses' &lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(usually called
after Saint Augustine &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;'The Golden Ass'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;), has come down to us
complete.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Indeed
we know quite a lot of biographical detail about Apuleius in that he
was Berber origin; as was Saint Augustine, and spent the&amp;nbsp;sizable&amp;nbsp;fortune that his father left him in a constant search for knowledge
as well as initiation into numerous Roman mystery cults. When money
began to run dry Apuleius married his friend Pontianus' mother
Pudentilla (with said friend's blessing); who happened to also be a
rather rich widow, but Pontianus' wife's father persuaded him to
indite Apuleius in court with having seduced Pudentilla with magic in
order to get her fortune. This directly lead  to Apuleius' successful
defense speech (we also know he&amp;nbsp;practiced&amp;nbsp;law for an unspecified
amount of time hence his ability to easily defend himself  against
the charges rather than hiring an advocate to do it on his behalf);
which was later published by him, known as the &lt;i&gt;'Apologia'&lt;/i&gt; or
alternatively&lt;i&gt; 'A Discourse on Magic'&lt;/i&gt;, that contains a substantive
mention of the jews.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;To
wit:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'Consider
what confidence in my innocence and what contempt of you is implied
by my conduct. If you can discover one trivial reason that might have
led me to woo Pudentilla for the sake of some personal advantage, if
you can prove that I have made the very slightest profit out of my
marriage, I am ready to be any magician you please—the great
Carmendas himself or Damigeron or Moses
of whom you have heard, or Jannes or Apollobex or Dardanus
himself or any sorcerer of note from the time of Zoroaster and
Ostanes till now.'&lt;/i&gt; (1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Now
in the above it is clear that Apuleius is suggesting that Moses; the
&lt;i&gt;'law-giver'&lt;/i&gt; of the jews from the Greek and Roman perspective, was a
sorcerer/magician par extraordinaire. Williams even goes as far as to
declare that the Romans and Greeks saw Moses as the&lt;i&gt; 'supreme
sorcerer'&lt;/i&gt; and concomitantly jews as master practitioners of magic and
sorcery. (2) This is true to an extent but Williams is guilty of
slightly overstating the case in that while it is true the jews were
seen as highly competent sorcerers: they were not the only ones.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
Egyptians; in addition to the inhabitants of Mesopotamia [the
Assyrian and Babylonian empires respectively], (3) were also renowned
for their magical abilities (4) as is easily demonstrated in the
passage by pointing out that of all the non-divine names mentioned we
do know who the magician Jannes supposedly was: one of the Egyptian
magicians bested by Moses. (5) This means that while Williams is
right to emphasize the jews as being regarded as eminent sorcerers:
she is wrong not to qualify her remarks by pointing out that the jews
were but one of several Eastern peoples that had such a reputation in
the Greek and Roman world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Coming
back to the point in hand in relation to Apuleius: we should
understand; as this necessary diversion has shown, that when he is
talking about Moses as being a master magician it is not actually a
compliment per se. Rather it would be regarded as an insult inside
the Imperial Roman ideological system of Romano-Greek civilization
being non-decadent and manly (thus willing to deal with problems
fairly and in the open), while Eastern barbarians like the jews were
held to be examples of decadent emasculation in that they didn't deal
with others openly and honestly, but rather sought to gain mastery
and revenge by nefarious means in their barbarous religious systems
such as casting spells. (6)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is confirmed when we read Apuleius' other mention of the jews in his
work &lt;i&gt;'Florida'&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'The
Indians are a populous nation of vast extent of territory, situated
far from us to the East, near the reflux of the ocean and the rising
of the sun, under the first beams of the stars, and at the extreme
verge of the earth, beyond the learned Egyptians, and the
superstitious Jews, and the mercantile Nabataeans, and the flowing
robed Arsacidae, and the Ityraeans, poor in crops, and the Arabians
rich in perfumes.' &lt;/i&gt;(7)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;In
this passage we can see that Apuleius is highlighting the material
and religious decadence of the Eastern peoples in so far as in
referring to the Indians: he talks about the Egyptians as being&lt;i&gt;
'learned' &lt;/i&gt;(as the Egyptians were regarded as &lt;i&gt;'origin of religion'&lt;/i&gt; by
the Greeks and then the Romans), the (southern) Arabs as being
decadent perfume merchants, the (northern) Arabs (Nabataeans) as
being obsessed with mercantile activities and the jews as being
superstitious religious loons par excellence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is obviously negative stereotyping on Apuleius' part, but it does
tell us that Apuleius had a strong distaste for the jews (who he
would have had plenty of contact with in his well-traveled life and
profound interest in all things to do with the pursuit of knowledge)
and that distaste is likely to have been based; in whole or in part,
on his experiences in dealing with them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(1) Apul.
 Apol. 90&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(2) Margaret
 Williams, 1998, &lt;i&gt;'The Jews among the Greeks and Romans: A Diasporan
 Sourcebook'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Duckworth: London, p. 58&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(3) For
 a useful summary of the focus on the practice of magic in
 Mespotamian religion see Benjamin Foster, 2007,&lt;i&gt; 'Mesopotamia'&lt;/i&gt;, pp.
 205-206 in John Hinnells (Ed.), 2007, &lt;i&gt;'A Handbook of Ancient
 Religions'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Cambridge University Press: New 
 York&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(4) Cf.
 Derek Collins, 2008, &lt;i&gt;'Magic in the Ancient Greek World'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Blackwell: Oxford&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(5) Tim.
 2:3.8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(6) Cf.
 Erich Gruen, 2002, &lt;i&gt;'Diaspora: Jews against Greeks and Romans'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Harvard University Press: Cambridge, pp. 20-21&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(7) Apul.
 Flor. 6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Over
the recent weeks we have witnessed a typical hand-wringing episode
from the habitual hysterical blubberers: the liberal-left art world and
the jews. The object of their alternate bleary-eyed  declarations of 
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;'say it ain't so'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; and militant screeching about there being&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'no place
for hate'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; (whatever that is) is the Seattle-based ceramic artist
Charles Krafft. Krafft has long produced risqué pieces of artwork
which have for some time now been centred around the idea of
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;'disaster ware'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, which are pieces of art which provoke and challenge
those who look upon them into thinking deeply about human disasters and
mass death in history.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;What
is in many ways both hilarious and sad at the same time is that many
of Krafft's artistic works were loved and treasured by the very
people who are now vilifying him and his artwork. Articles such as
the &lt;i&gt;'contribution'&lt;/i&gt; from&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;'The Stranger'&lt;/i&gt; ask rhetorically whether
Krafft's artwork was really meant to convey a &lt;i&gt;'trivialization'&lt;/i&gt; of
&lt;i&gt;'jewish suffering'&lt;/i&gt; and  whether it seeks to normalize the Third Reich
more generally. (1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;One
wonders how the much vaunted &lt;i&gt;'art critics' &lt;/i&gt;don't&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;seem to realize that the
value of art should; if art is not to be anything more than realism,
be completely independent of the views of the artist. To be sure some
art is loaded with a political message or is conceived for an
explicitly political purpose (such as carved wall scenes at the
Assyrian palace of Nineveh), but it is important to realise that the
message conceived of by the artist has no sure fire way of being
received by the audience. (2) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Menachem
Wecker's story about putting some of Adolf Hitler's paintings on
display while concealing the information about who the artist was and
the positive reaction and praise of them is pointed in its message
that artists do tend to have a habitual case of double-think. (3)
They; as Greg Johnson has rightly pointed out, want to view art by
itself as having a value independent of the artist, but also cannot
believe that somebody they would consider evil would produce art
worthy of praise. (4)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;It
comes down to the conundrum surrounding figures like Ezra Pound in
that he was arguably the greatest poet of the twentieth century, but
yet he was openly anti-Semitic and produced pro-Axis propaganda
during the Second World War. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;How
do the arty-farty community reconcile this? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Well
they look to Pound's proverbial death bed repudiation of his earlier
views and suggest that he was a good guy after all despite being
fundamentally flawed for his support of Fascist Italy, Fascist Spain
and the Third Reich.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;That
of course is a rather asinine and insipid interpretation in much the
same way as claiming that Voltaire was a Catholic, because he
confessed his sins and was given absolution as well as the last rites
on his deathbed by a Catholic priest. In summation: it takes a
retrospective view of belief so that everything Voltaire or Pound did
before their literal and proverbial 'death bed confessions' is seen
in the light of that new confession of faith as opposed to the
original intellectual context in which it was created.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
same applies with Krafft in that the artistic community cannot seem
to understand; for what reasons I know not, that Krafft can still be
an avant-garde artist while being skeptical about the holocaust or
that he produced art that was innocently but darkly satirical about
the Third Reich and &lt;i&gt;'jewish suffering'&lt;/i&gt;  before he came to doubt the
official version of the holocaust. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
simple fact is that Krafft has only expressed skepticism about the
holocaust and has even explicitly told people concerned that he
doesn't&lt;i&gt; 'deny' &lt;/i&gt;anything, but rather on the basis of research he has
come to endorse the alternate hypothesis suggested by holocaust
revisionism. That school of thought is much vilified and has even
been outlawed in numerous countries not because it is a&lt;i&gt; 'crank
theory' &lt;/i&gt;(after all&lt;i&gt; 'denial'&lt;/i&gt; of the well-documented Soviet atrocities
isn't illegal and is&amp;nbsp;practiced&amp;nbsp;in European countries by some Marxist
intellectuals and historians) but rather because it has a tendency to
catch&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust historians' &lt;/i&gt;with their metaphorical trousers down. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;If
those decrying how &lt;i&gt;'well evidenced'&lt;/i&gt; the holocaust is actually stopped
looking at newspaper articles about &lt;i&gt;'the latest study' &lt;/i&gt;and&amp;nbsp;used that
time instead to read through a couple of orthodox academic books on
it and then did a few thought experiments: they would quickly see
that the&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust' &lt;/i&gt;is actually the worst kind of conspiracy theory.
It assumes; for example, that an order was given or that it &lt;i&gt;'was a
series of coincidences'&lt;/i&gt; (the famous&lt;i&gt; 'orders from the
top'&lt;/i&gt;/&lt;i&gt;'initiatives from below' &lt;/i&gt;position) but no&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust historian'&lt;/i&gt;
has to date found any such order only the occasional inference which
can be only be interpreted to mean industrial mass murder when one
already believes it happened.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;It
doesn't help that; as of this writing, no &lt;i&gt;'holocaust historian'&lt;/i&gt; has
been able to provide documentary or physical evidence that a single
jew was gassed as part of a mass gassing program aimed at them as
jews. It is true that lists of victims get put forward, but the
missing component to those lists is very simply the question: on what
basis do we know they were gassed?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
response is very simple: we don't.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
lists have largely been created by simply taking manifests of jews
transported to the camps and when they died according to extant
concentration camp records then adding the unjustifiable assumption
that anyone who died soon after arrival or disappeared from the camp
was &lt;i&gt;'gassed'&lt;/i&gt;. That completely ignores every possible other cause of
death or loss of a record, such as disease (the camps famously
had problems with disease not helped by the ghettoization of the jews
for several years previously) and also the fact that we know jews
were shuttled around different camps in large numbers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Suffice
to say if you couple that with the absolute howlers of supposed
purpose-built gas chambers at Auschwitz being built underground with
only a single door in and out and with a small number of crematory ovens
serving two gas chambers supposedly killing thousands a day then the
absurdity of the holocaust theory is there for all to see.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Next
time you go to a funeral that involves a cremation: think about how
long it takes to cremate a body in a modern crematory oven and then
compare the number of victims per day at say Auschwitz to the number
of crematory ovens for single bodies that were available. If you do
you'll quickly see why revisionist critique of the &lt;i&gt;'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; theory
has been so devastating as well as quietly forcing &lt;i&gt;'holocaust
historians' &lt;/i&gt;away from the gas chambers and into the new idea of the&lt;i&gt;
'holocaust by bullets'&lt;/i&gt; on the Eastern front.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;That
hasn't stopped the loud claims about &lt;i&gt;'gas chambers' &lt;/i&gt;and almost weekly
bevy of new &lt;i&gt;'survivor'&lt;/i&gt; stories however, but it has severely clogged
the wheels of official &lt;i&gt;'holocaust historians' &lt;/i&gt;so much so that they
now almost completely ignore revisionist work in part because to even
cite it in a non-pejorative context is taken by jewish organizations
and their amen corner to be ipso facto proof of &lt;i&gt;'holocaust denial'&lt;/i&gt;
and/or&lt;i&gt; 'anti-Semitic sentiments' &lt;/i&gt;on the part of the individual citing
it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Now
what I have expressed above is what we could call &lt;i&gt;'holocaust
skepticism'&lt;/i&gt; which is a fairly healthy intellectual beast, but what
then would&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust denial'&lt;/i&gt; be?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Well
if we are talking in terms of the killing of jews being a&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt;
(i.e.&lt;i&gt; 'burnt offering'&lt;/i&gt;) then the problem comes in the terminology
precisely because the&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; theory (and its concomitant claims
of&lt;i&gt; 'uniqueness'&lt;/i&gt;) is predicated on the gas chambers and what Applebaum
has called the&lt;i&gt; 'industrial nature'&lt;/i&gt; of the killing. (5) If we take
away the gas chambers then the killing of jews in the Second World
War becomes simply one of many atrocities committed by all sides
involved: indeed if we understand it contextually the number of jews
killed in the alleged&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; is actually not the worst or even the largest atrocity of the period by a long shot.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Stalin's
purges and the Holodomor in the Ukraine killed far more, while the
mass expulsion and murder of millions of Germans after the Second
World War (sometimes claimed to have been&lt;i&gt; 'justified'&lt;/i&gt; by&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust
historians'&lt;/i&gt;) by the Soviet Union and the Allies killed almost double
the amount of Germans than the number of jews who were supposedly
killed in the&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt;. (6)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;One
wonders what Krafft's hand-wringing liberal-lefty critics have to say
about those atrocities or perhaps even more appallingly: have they even
heard of them?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;We
can thus perceive that&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust denial' &lt;/i&gt;can be seen as the removal
of the gas chambers from the story (something quite a few recent
&lt;i&gt;'holocaust historians'&lt;/i&gt; are somewhat guilty of) or alternatively it
can be seen simply as the intentional mass killing of the jews. Now
no revisionist I am aware of disputes that jews were intentionally
killed by the Third Reich, but the basic problem persists as even if
we accept that the Third Reich shot millions of jews on the Eastern
Front (highly unlikely but at least somewhat technically plausible)
then that makes the&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; but one atrocity of many.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;It
then loses its place as a&lt;i&gt; 'unique event'&lt;/i&gt; in the pantheon of modern
belief as it isn't distinguishable from Stalin's mass shootings or
the Allies own mass killings in the prisoner of war camps: let alone
the atrocities committed by former resistance members against their
own country people who supported the Third Reich.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;What
then is &lt;i&gt;'holocaust denial'&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Well
if anything it is the simple objection to the supposed&lt;i&gt; 'uniqueness'&lt;/i&gt;
of&lt;i&gt; 'jewish suffering'&lt;/i&gt; before and during the Second World War and
substituting the placement of real and imagined atrocities against
the jews in their correct historical context as opposed to
downplaying the context and then pushing one type of atrocity to the
fore as&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust historians'&lt;/i&gt; invariably do.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;That
to me; as a historian, is utterly repugnant especially given that the
&lt;i&gt;'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; is used like a money-making racket for jewish
organizations as Norman Finkelstein has famously pointed out. (7) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Essentially&lt;i&gt;
'holocaust denial'&lt;/i&gt; is a pejorative term invented to rhetorically
smear those who question the basis of &lt;i&gt;'uniqueness' &lt;/i&gt;of the killing of
jews before and during the Second World War. That the &lt;i&gt;'holocaust' &lt;/i&gt;has
become a political tool; and hence the lack of ability for it to be
conceded as a false intellectual position much like Turkish
historians &lt;i&gt;'denying'&lt;/i&gt; the Armenian genocide, (8) is indisputable and
as such it is beholden on the honest observer to at least ask the
fundamental question of just what evidence supports this ever-changing theory?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;That
is precisely what Krafft did as if one reads his account of the
alleged &lt;i&gt;'Abattoir Murder'&lt;/i&gt; of jews by members of the Romanian &lt;i&gt;'Legion
of the Archangel Michael' &lt;/i&gt;in 1941: (9) then one can clearly see that
Krafft was himself very surprised by the fact that so widely credited
an atrocity has almost literally nothing behind it in terms of documentary evidence. He notes that the two Romanian authorities working in the
area; whose work other &lt;i&gt;'holocaust historians'&lt;/i&gt; view as&lt;i&gt;
'authoritative'&lt;/i&gt;, can't even produce a copy of the original document
which is the cornerstone of their argument on this point.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Indeed
in Krafft's narrative it is clear that it is both a case of&lt;i&gt; 'can't'&lt;/i&gt;
as well as&lt;i&gt; 'won't'&lt;/i&gt;, which is an unfortunately all too common
occurrence with scholars being unable to back up a claim they have
made but because that claim has entered common scholarly parlance: it
is ironically just accepted without question. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Reading
between the lines of Krafft's article; which is part travelogue, part
autobiography and part historical commentary, it becomes very clear
that Krafft was himself shocked at the intellectual carelessness of
the &lt;i&gt;'holocaust historians'&lt;/i&gt; he encountered and that his initial
interest in the &lt;i&gt;'Legion of  the Archangel Michael'&lt;/i&gt; was the kind of
intellectual whim that is popularly associated with artists. What
precisely Krafft's thoughts were at this time I do not know, but at
the same time it is fairly clear that Krafft came to holocaust
revisionism awkwardly and hesitantly, because it went against most of
what he then believed about the world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;It
might be very difficult for his fellow artists to believe, but Krafft
came to his doubt about the official holocaust narrative through
study and; like most of those associated with holocaust revisionism,
a troubling period of self-doubt as to whether the official
historians could have got it so badly wrong. Krafft; as he himself
relates, engaged with the literature on both sides of the debate and
made an informed decision.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is the inverse to his detractors who have simply believed the
standard &lt;i&gt;'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; narrative without investigation or even a little
dose of lateral thinking or as one person remarked to Krafft (I
paraphrase):&lt;i&gt; 'look at this latest newspaper article about the
documentation of the killing sites'&lt;/i&gt;. (10)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Indeed
when we look at the original article that sparked off the witch hunt
against Krafft; written by a barely literate hysteric known as Jen
Graves, (11) we note that she hasn't actually engaged with the
scholarly (or even the popular) literature on the &lt;i&gt;'holocaust' &lt;/i&gt;at all,
as she gives us such historical howlers as:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'I
followed up: "The number I've always read is 6 million Jews
killed. I just want to clarify that it's your belief that 700,000 to
1.2 million Jews died total."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Krafft
did not answer the question. He only sent a link to a story about
exaggerations in the original numbers of Jews reported killed at
Auschwitz. That story, called "New 'Official' Changes in the
Auschwitz Story," appears on a website called Institute for
Historical Review.' &lt;/i&gt;(12)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;The
idea that &lt;i&gt;'6 million jews'&lt;/i&gt; were killed is of course the sine qua non
of popular &lt;i&gt;'holocaust' &lt;/i&gt;discourse, but as any&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust historian'&lt;/i&gt;
will tell you: it isn't an accurate number in the slightest and
official estimates range between  4 and 5.5 million jews being
killed. However Graves treats it as gospel and doesn't even bother to
comment about the issue of why the &lt;i&gt;'number of dead'&lt;/i&gt; keeps being
revised down.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Graves
also clearly doesn't realise that the&lt;i&gt; '6 million jews'&lt;/i&gt; number in
relation to what in&lt;i&gt; 'Jewish Studies' &lt;/i&gt;we call a &lt;i&gt;'Shoah' &lt;/i&gt;(lit.&lt;i&gt;
'Catastrophe'&lt;/i&gt;) event dates to at least 1840 (in relation the Damascus
Affair) (13) and came into popular usage in relation to the so-called
&lt;i&gt;'pogroms' &lt;/i&gt;(which as is now widely agreed weren't 'state-sponsored'
contrary to the myth perpetrated by the jewish historian Simon
Dubnow) from the 1880s to 1923. (14) Further the&lt;i&gt; '6 million'&lt;/i&gt; number
itself is; as is widely conceded, merely symbolic now and as I have
pointed out elsewhere: it probably started out as a simple literal
misunderstanding of the rabbinical concept of the guzma, (15) which
snowballed over the course of the decades into a literal casualty
figure to be taken as gospel (hence the incorrect rationalization
that it supposedly comes from population statistics).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Now
it is clear; even in Graves' hit piece, that it is Krafft who has done the research on the &lt;i&gt;'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; and not Graves, but yet it is
Graves who judges Krafft while Krafft doesn't judge Graves. It is
ironic indeed that one of lefty-liberal art critic brigade is the one
who is intolerant and hateful, while Krafft's role in this drama has
been that of the individual simply seeking to be understood.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
brings us nicely onto the question of what precisely Graves is up to
given that her article; as Johnson has rightly observed, (16) is
extremely prejudiced and in all essentials is dressed-up personal
invective against Krafft. Graves; looking at her previously published
&lt;i&gt;'content'&lt;/i&gt;, (17) is a typical example of what we may term; with
Johnson, &lt;i&gt;'cultural bolshevism'&lt;/i&gt;. In other words: Graves believes that
everyone has the right to an opinion as long as that opinion doesn't
contradict hers and if it does woe betide them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is the symptomatic behaviour of what Jonah Goldberg has appositely
termed&lt;i&gt; 'liberal fascism'&lt;/i&gt; or the viewpoint; held in practice but not
often in theory by those on the liberal-left, which seeks to suppress
all points of view which do not fit into their neat political
paradigms of&lt;i&gt; 'acceptability'&lt;/i&gt;. One such example of intellectual
traditions that they seek to suppress is that associated with the
radical right as well as the racialistic right (which they don't tend
to differentiate themselves) with which school of thought they
broadly and rather incorrectly associate&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust denial'&lt;/i&gt;. (18)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Graves
in her article; as do Phil Campbell and Priscilla Frank in theirs,
(19) sounds a militant call to all art galleries to stop showing
Krafft's work because of his &lt;i&gt;'political views'&lt;/i&gt; and supposed
&lt;i&gt;'rehabilitation'&lt;/i&gt; of the Third Reich. Indeed it seems that Graves in
particular has been actively messaging galleries; as well as
encouraging her readers too, that have shown or are currently showing
Krafft's work in order to have it withdrawn.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;What
are we to make of that other than that Graves, Campbell and Frank
don't actually believe in the separation of art from the artist and
that they are all more interested in what an artist thinks about such
and such a historical event or the current political status quo as
opposed to the art said artist produces. Clearly Graves, Campbell and
Frank adhere; by their actions if not their explicit beliefs, to the position that
art is at the service of political and intellectual orthodoxy as
opposed to the idea; current in their own writing as it happens, that
one of the functions of art is to challenge cherished beliefs and
breakdown barriers to understanding.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Is
that not what Krafft has been doing irrespective of his historical
and political beliefs?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;As
an aside we should also probably say that if Krafft had become
involved with Stalinism and supported Stalin's murderous purges
against the kulaks,&lt;i&gt; 'saboteurs'&lt;/i&gt; and foreign communists accused of
actual or imaginary political deviancy: then Graves wouldn't have
written her article and nothing more would have be said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Such
an attitude is symptomatic of what Krafft himself talks about in his
article on the Abattoir killings in reference to the&lt;i&gt; 'post-socialist'
&lt;/i&gt;artistic trends he was involved with, (20) which had for years been&amp;nbsp;lionizing&amp;nbsp;every possible variant of socialism even the ones that
killed millions like Trotsky's, Castro's and Mao's. Essentially
Graves' problem with Krafft is that he went the wrong political
direction and in her view is apologising for the wrong side: the far
right rather than the far left.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;When
Campbell talks about the fact that Graves&lt;i&gt; 'bothered'&lt;/i&gt; to google Krafft
while others didn't: (21) I can understand what he is trying to say
in that Krafft has not made his views on the&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust' &lt;/i&gt;a particular
secret. (22) However what is interesting is that nobody seems to have
noticed or cared that Krafft held such views as we hear repeatedly
from those interviewed by Graves and others. (23)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Now
all of a sudden Krafft's friends are left holding the proverbial
ticking time bomb of trying to apologise and explain why they &lt;i&gt;'didn't
say anything'&lt;/i&gt; by the accusative spotlight that Graves has shone on
them. It is classic yellow journalism; a term I suspect Graves would
not appreciate being applied to her work, in so far as Graves
contacts Krafft's friends and artistic associates who are then
grilled about why they haven't reported Krafft to the liberal thought
police and endorsed the subsequent attempt to hold an artistic
auto-de-fe.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Essentially
what has happened here is that Krafft held heretical beliefs about
the &lt;i&gt;'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt; in private and then began to express those beliefs
relatively quietly on the internet on alternative media outlets
generally associated with the radical and racialist right. A
liberal-lefty mud-raker (Graves) is   having a hard time scratching
around for her next&lt;i&gt; 'big piece'&lt;/i&gt; (her content generally looks to be
light on innovation in addition to what we may term&lt;i&gt; 'artistic
revelation'&lt;/i&gt; in a brief survey of her last few dozen articles) and she
happens onto Krafft and thinks to write another short and somewhat
dull peon to risqué&lt;i&gt; 'visual art'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Graves;
like most hacks do these days, immediately jumps on google and taps
in &lt;i&gt;'Charles Krafft'&lt;/i&gt; cycling through the pages about his work until
she notices something odd: Krafft keeps coming up on sites associated
with the radical and racialistic right. Graves' excitement deepens
and she listens to a podcast with him from Carolyn Yeager's &lt;i&gt;'The
White Network'&lt;/i&gt; to discover that he holds unorthodox and nigh on
heretical views about the&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;A
little more searching reveals Krafft's views have been held for some
time and this; to Graves' continued excitement, means that she had a
journalistic&lt;i&gt; 'big score'&lt;/i&gt; here as she can &lt;i&gt;'out'&lt;/i&gt; Krafft and thus gain a
reputation, kudos as well as potential income from a much wider
circle than merely a Seattle-based arts rag. Graves' presentation
itself is rather pedestrian and lacking in literary ability, but it
creates enough of a stir to be picked up by Phil Campbell and
Priscilla Frank at the widely-read liberal rag: the Huffington Post. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Their
amusing and overdone &lt;i&gt;'outrage' &lt;/i&gt;about Krafft's &lt;i&gt;'warped ideology'&lt;/i&gt; (as
Campbell terms it) then causes a ripple effect as liberals and
leftists are by now scrambling to avoid any sort of association with
Krafft and are acting the part that students  played in Mao's
cultural revolution in lining up to denounce the man they had loved
and respected till a few days before as the devil incarnate. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;This
is made even worse when the Southern Poverty Law Center picks up the
story and promptly begins scrambling to construct a &lt;i&gt;'profile' &lt;/i&gt;on
Krafft (having missed his participation in the podcasts and radio
interviews for years in spite of having a multi-million dollar
endowment to &lt;i&gt;'track hate'&lt;/i&gt;) and then strut around the room like they
knew all the time. (24) This is then further picked up by the Jewish
Daily Forward's arts blog; &lt;i&gt;'The Arty Semite'&lt;/i&gt;, and I suspect this
story has yet to run its full course in terms of officious liberal and jewish outrage.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;We'll
have to see.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;What
Graves has started off against Krafft is simply a witch hunt against
a man based on the contravention of her own artistic tropes that the
artist and the art they produce are separate entities. More than that
Graves will certainly benefit by the publication of this hit piece as
for years she has been confined to writing about the Seattle arts
scene and now she has opportunity to move into&lt;i&gt; 'exposing' &lt;/i&gt;artists
with heterodox views (i.e. things she doesn't agree with and can
easily be sensationalized) as well as gain national syndication for
her own work.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Perhaps
our struggling arts writer has finally had her&amp;nbsp;Michelangelo&amp;nbsp;moment?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;I
doubt it as Graves will find out: the &lt;i&gt;'Hatewatch' &lt;/i&gt;scene is all about
what new exposes you can perform and tends to forget successes very
quickly, but does have a tendency to remember a writer's failures for a much
longer period of time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Perhaps
the last part of this saga that needs to be talked about is what
impact it is having on Krafft. This hasn't been touched on by any
other writer on this subject to my knowledge, but in an email
exchange I recently had with him: he seems remarkably chipper for a
man who is being publicly vilified by people he believed to be his
friends left, right and centre. Financially Krafft has never had it
so good (in contradiction to the SPLC's claim his artistic work is&lt;i&gt;
'devalued'&lt;/i&gt;), (25) but he confessed that the hardest thing to bear is
the social ostracism he is suffering as a result of this ongoing
farrago of liberal character assassination and self-flagellation.
(26)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;I'd
say that Krafft is a very brave man in standing by his views as being
factually correct despite what it is costing him personally and
emotionally as opposed to the usual kowtowing and mealy-mouthed apologies
which characterise so many people who are&lt;i&gt; 'exposed'&lt;/i&gt; as having
heterodox views. I can only wish him the best of luck in his future
endeavours and can assure him; as somebody who has been personally
attacked for his intellectual beliefs in the past, that it does show
you who your real friends are and that you get used to it soon
enough.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;Don't
back down Charles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(1)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/charles-krafft-is-a-white-nationalist-who-believes-the-holocaust-is-a-deliberately-exaggerated-myth/Content?oid=15995245" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/charles-krafft-is-a-white-nationalist-who-believes-the-holocaust-is-a-deliberately-exaggerated-myth/Content?oid=15995245&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(2) Nicholas
 Jackson O'Shaughnessy, 2004, &lt;i&gt;'Politics and Propaganda: Weapons of
 Mass Seduction'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Manchester University
 Press: Manchester, pp. 24-29&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;(3)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://blogs.forward.com/the-arty-semite/172267/can-charles-krafft-be-defended/"&gt;http://blogs.forward.com/the-arty-semite/172267/can-charles-krafft-be-defended/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(4)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/02/freude-durch-krafft/" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/02/freude-durch-krafft/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(5) Anne
 Applebaum, 2003,&lt;i&gt; 'Gulag: A History of the Soviet Camps'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Random House: New York, pp. 22-24&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(6) This
 is a very uncomfortable area for modern historians and relatively
 few English studies have appeared (although there are a profusion of
 them in the German language), the most recent attempt at breaking
 this historical taboo is: R. Douglas, 2012, &lt;i&gt;'Orderly and Humane: The
 Expulsion of the Germans after the Second World War'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 Edition, Yale University Press: New Haven&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(7) In
 Norman Finkelstein, 2001,&lt;i&gt; 'The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on
 the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering'&lt;/i&gt;, 2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition,
 Verso: New York&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(8) This
 isn't strictly true in the sense of 'denying it happened' but rather
 (incorrectly in my view) disagreeing with the Armenian
 interpretation of malice aforethought as well as on the number of
 deaths (the Turks also tend to stress the atrocities committed by
 Armenian nationalists as well).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(9) Charles
 Krafft, 2012, &lt;i&gt;'To the Abattoir: Investigating the Legionary
 Rebellion of January 21-23, 1941'&lt;/i&gt;, Smith's Report, Vol. 190 (March),
 pp. 7-11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(10) Charles
 Krafft in personal communication to the author.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;(11)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/charles-krafft-is-a-white-nationalist-who-believes-the-holocaust-is-a-deliberately-exaggerated-myth/Content?oid=15995245"&gt;http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/charles-krafft-is-a-white-nationalist-who-believes-the-holocaust-is-a-deliberately-exaggerated-myth/Content?oid=15995245&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(12) Ibid.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(13)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/07/origin-of-6-million-jews-figure.html" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/07/origin-of-6-million-jews-figure.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(14) For
 a good summary see Don Heddesheimer, 2003,&lt;i&gt; 'The First Holocaust:
 Jewish Fund Raising Campaigns with Holocaust Claims During and After
 World War One'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Edition, Theses and Dissertations
 Press: Chicago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(15) Lit.
 &lt;i&gt;'Exaggeration'&lt;/i&gt; and used to express a sense of scale in relation to a
 &lt;i&gt;'Shoah'&lt;/i&gt; event by multiplying the number of jews involved in the
 Exodus from Egypt according to the Mishnah (600,000).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;(16)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/02/freude-durch-krafft/"&gt;http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/02/freude-durch-krafft/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(17) See
 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/jen-graves/Author?oid=26622" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/jen-graves/Author?oid=26622&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(18) Holocaust
 &lt;i&gt;'deniers'&lt;/i&gt; actually come from across the political spectrum from
 Libertarians to Marxists to Nationalists to Liberals. It is a myth
 constructed from almost nothing that&lt;i&gt; 'holocaust denial' &lt;/i&gt;is
 synonymous with nationalism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(19)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/phil-campbell/when-a-good-artist-turns-_b_2694938.html" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/phil-campbell/when-a-good-artist-turns-_b_2694938.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
 and
 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/15/charles-krafft-nazi-holocaust_n_2695418.html?utm_hp_ref=arts" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/15/charles-krafft-nazi-holocaust_n_2695418.html?utm_hp_ref=arts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(20) Krafft,
 Op. Cit., pp. 7-8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(21)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/phil-campbell/when-a-good-artist-turns-_b_2694938.html" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/phil-campbell/when-a-good-artist-turns-_b_2694938.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;(22)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/02/freude-durch-krafft/"&gt;http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/02/freude-durch-krafft/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(23)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/charles-krafft-is-a-white-nationalist-who-believes-the-holocaust-is-a-deliberately-exaggerated-myth/Content?oid=15995245" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/charles-krafft-is-a-white-nationalist-who-believes-the-holocaust-is-a-deliberately-exaggerated-myth/Content?oid=15995245&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;;
 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.forward.com/the-arty-semite/172267/can-charles-krafft-be-defended/" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://blogs.forward.com/the-arty-semite/172267/can-charles-krafft-be-defended/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;;
 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/15/charles-krafft-nazi-holocaust_n_2695418.html?utm_hp_ref=arts" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/15/charles-krafft-nazi-holocaust_n_2695418.html?utm_hp_ref=arts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;(24)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/03/06/famous-seattle-ceramicist-exposed-as-holocaust-denier/"&gt;http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/03/06/famous-seattle-ceramicist-exposed-as-holocaust-denier/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(25) Ibid.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(26) Charles
 Krafft in personal communication to the author. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
</description><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SemiticControversies/~3/w-LExeOYjhI/charles-krafft-and-art-of-holocaust.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Karl Radl)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/03/charles-krafft-and-art-of-holocaust.html</feedburner:origLink></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8878064790402161553.post-850263272446975808</guid><pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:30:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2013-03-11T15:30:39.993-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">statistics</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">United Kingdom</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JINFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">jewish achievement</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Mathematics</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">jews</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">University of Cambridge</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism 2.0</category><title>Jews and the Adams Prize</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The Adams Prize is an
annual award made to a young mathematician currently resident in
Britain by the prestigious University of Cambridge in England. (1)
This prize; unlike some others, has been  awarded since 1848 and thus
has large number of recipients over the years making it an ideal
prize to look at in relation to claims made about disproportionate
&lt;i&gt;'jewish achievement'&lt;/i&gt;. (2) What is interesting is that is another
prize where the jews and their apologists have not compiled a list of
the 'jewish winners' and even the otherwise predictable JINFO has not
provided such a list. (3)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Now before we begin we
should note that the selection procedure in relation to deserving
young mathematicians is decided only be mathematicians associated
with the University of Cambridge which means that British
mathematicians would naturally have an advantage, but this advantage
is offset by the issue of what I have the termed the lingua franca of
mathematics or the fact that equations communicate a specific logical
point that can be followed even without understanding the language an
article is in. (4)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Once again I should
point out that in compiling the list of jews versus non-jews: I have
used the widest possible criteria for what a jew is. Since; as I have
pointed out elsewhere, jews who compile these lists almost invariably
use a biological definition of jewishness as opposed to a religious
or a cultural one: we also need to compare like-for-like. Given that
to compare the number of Irish who have won a given prize to the
number of jews from any country who have won it is necessarily
disingenuous: since the Irish are but from one country while a Jew
can come from any country by the common jewish list compiler's
definition. (5) Thus I have adopted the widest possible biological
definition of jewishness (i.e. any jewish ancestry makes someone
jewish) and used those of European origin as a major point for
comparison in order to be more than equitable.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
I should also mention
that there is not a complete list of winners of Adams Prize winners
that I have been able to find: so I have put together two different
partial lists to come up with 85 recipients. (6) These breakdown as
follows:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Jewish Winners: 4&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
European Winners: 75 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Indian Winners: 5&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Chinese Winners: 1&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Percentage of Jewish
Winners: 4.7 percent&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Percentage of European
Winners: 88.2 percent 
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Percentage of Indian
Winners: 5.9 percent&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
Percentage of Chinese
Winners: 1.2 percent&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
In the above we can
clearly see that European domination is near enough total (requiring
little comment or analysis) and the jews are actually significantly
under-represented given that they had been resident in significant
numbers in Britain and played a significant role in British
intellectual life since the 17&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; century. The Indians by
contrast only began to attend British universities or play a
significant part in British intellectual life from the mid-late 19&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;
century, which immediately begs the question of why the jews have
been unable to contribute more than they have in fact done as opposed
to why they have contributed so much to the study of mathematics.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
The only point in the
above list that would perhaps be contested by the pro-jewish side of
the debate is the jewishness of the 1972 recipient of the Adams
Prize: Alan Baker. (7) JINFO lists him as being jewish on two
separate occasions, (8) but no other source I can find on him
mentions anything related to this alleged jewishness. (9)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
This seems once again
to be jewish nationalists claiming someone is jewish for no apparent
reason other than they wish it to be true!&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(1) There is no
 official page for the Adams Prize but the closest is:
 &lt;a href="http://www.maths.cam.ac.uk/news/3.html"&gt;http://www.maths.cam.ac.uk/news/3.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(2) I have discussed
 the issues in relation to common arguments and statistical claims of
 this school of thought in the following article:
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/02/why-jewish-achievement-lists-are.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/02/why-jewish-achievement-lists-are.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(3)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.jinfo.org/"&gt;http://www.jinfo.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(4) This has been
 discussed in the following article:
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/01/jews-and-fields-medal.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/01/jews-and-fields-medal.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(5) I have discussed
 this is in more detail in the following article:
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/01/jews-and-nobel-prize-fantasy-versus.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/01/jews-and-nobel-prize-fantasy-versus.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(6) These two separate
 lists are located at: &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adams_Prize"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adams_Prize&lt;/a&gt;
 and &lt;a href="http://planetmath.org/?op=getobj&amp;amp;id=9271&amp;amp;from=objects"&gt;http://planetmath.org/?op=getobj&amp;amp;id=9271&amp;amp;from=objects&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(7) Previously
 discussed in the following article:
 &lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/01/jews-and-fields-medal.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/01/jews-and-fields-medal.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(8)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.jinfo.org/Mathematics_Comp.html"&gt;http://www.jinfo.org/Mathematics_Comp.htm&lt;/a&gt;l and&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.jinfo.org/Fields_Mathematics.html"&gt;http://www.jinfo.org/Fields_Mathematics.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
(9) For example:
 &lt;a href="http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Baker_Alan.html"&gt;http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Baker_Alan.html&lt;/a&gt;
 and &lt;a href="https://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/people/a.baker/"&gt;https://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/people/a.baker/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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</description><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SemiticControversies/~3/q6Q5CKkpl0Y/jews-and-adams-prize.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Karl Radl)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2013/03/jews-and-adams-prize.html</feedburner:origLink></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8878064790402161553.post-2313809340915484519</guid><pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2013-03-08T14:19:25.805-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">England</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jewish Ritual Murder</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">jews</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Gavin Langmuir</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">William of Norwich</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">William the Conqueror</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">United Kingdom</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Normans</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Sue Black</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">anti-Semitism 2.0</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Christianity</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Norwich</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ian Barnes</category><title>Throwing another Jew down the same Well</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
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Two years ago I
commented in my article &lt;i&gt;'Throwing the Jew down the Well'&lt;/i&gt; (1) about
the much touted &lt;i&gt;'discovery'&lt;/i&gt; of a medieval well shaft in the English
city of Norwich, which was stuffed full of human remains. (2) These
remains were plausibly dated to the 12&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; and 13&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;
centuries, which caused proverbial heart palpitations among
medievalists and the jewish community. This was because Norwich at
that time was embroiled in one of the major events in the history of
anti-Semitism: the first medieval ritual murder case or &lt;i&gt;'blood libel'
&lt;/i&gt;as the jews and their apologists prefer to refer to it.&lt;/div&gt;
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This gained even more
credence when forensic anthropologist Sue Black and geneticist Ian
Barnes carried out testing, which suggested that the human remains
were firstly jewish and secondly were related implying that they were
in fact a family. This seeming avalanche of evidence was only
worsened when a (quite well-known) jewish medievalist named Miri Rubin got involved by
telling people (correctly in my view but incorrectly according to the
orthodox view) (3) that this was a time of jewish persecution in
Norwich. (4)&lt;/div&gt;
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At the time I threw
quite a lot of doubt onto the &lt;i&gt;'discovery'&lt;/i&gt; on the grounds that the&lt;i&gt;
'jewishness'&lt;/i&gt; of the skeletons had not been conclusively established
and nor could they actually be linked to &lt;i&gt;'jewish persecution'&lt;/i&gt; in
Norwich. I also pointed out that a key point of evidence; that the
well was a&lt;i&gt; 'few hundred yards'&lt;/i&gt; from Norwich's jewish quarter, was
nonsensical given that; as any history of medieval Norwich will tell
you, it was a small place and a&lt;i&gt; 'few hundred yards'&lt;/i&gt; would have
actually been a considerable distance rather the small distance it is
today.&lt;/div&gt;
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As it turns out this
early trumpeting of a jewish identification by Black and Barnes as
well as the concomitant media hype over the &lt;i&gt;'massacred jews'&lt;/i&gt; was
quite unjustified as scholars have echoed my own initial skepticism
of the identification of these human remains as being those of jews.
(5)&lt;/div&gt;
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Indeed what it is
interesting is that further genetic testing has yielded inconclusive
results about the &lt;i&gt;'jewishness'&lt;/i&gt; of these skeletons, but this
skepticism from the academic community has unsurprisingly not stopped
the jews effectively claiming special knowledge that these
individuals were jewish.&lt;/div&gt;
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Barnes has tried to
defend his identification of the skeletons as jewish on the grounds
that the geographical mapping of the origins of the genetic material
gives us a location of South-East Europe to Central Asia. He claims
that this has be plausibly explained and that he has not yet been
given a reasonable answer.&lt;/div&gt;
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Answering that little
tit bit is fairly easy given that Barnes is forgetting that a
Franco-Norse dynasty (the Normans) conquered England in 1066 and
included many members who were militarily active in south-eastern
Europe and whose ancestors had; to an extent, intermarried with
families from that region as well as probably had numerous children
out of wedlock with local women. Further Barnes is also forgetting
that many of the ancestors of the Normans would have served in the
Varangian guard of the Byzantine Emperor in Constantinople and could
have easily produced sons and daughters of more varied origins than
would have been immediately apparent. (6)&lt;/div&gt;
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Incidentally we also
know of major violent events in Norwich in the late 11&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;
century (which could easily given a 12&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; century genetic
locational cusp reading) in which Normans of this type were killed!
(7)&lt;/div&gt;
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Barnes really hasn't
thought through his defensive claims of jewishness now has he?&lt;/div&gt;
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This means; as I have
above intimated, that the likelihood is that these bodies were of
Christians as West asserts. (8) What has also been completely ignored
by those arguing; like Barnes, that these bodies are those of jews
and that their deaths were likely the result of Christian
persecution. Is that if they are indeed of jewish origin: then why
couldn't they be say a family of jewish converts to Christianity and
killed for a reason unrelated to this ancestry? We know of plenty of
such individuals in Europe at the time: so why should we
automatically being of jewish origin as meaning that the individual
concerned believes in Judaism?&lt;/div&gt;
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This doesn't seem to
trouble Norwich's current jewish population however who are demanding
(no doubt believing themselves&lt;i&gt; 'inspired'&lt;/i&gt; by Yahweh) that the human
remains be buried as jews because they believe them to be jewish.
This is rather nonsensical at best considered that fresh tests are
being conducted by the university of Mainz in Germany to help
determine whether the jewish identification by Barnes is valid or
not.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;
I mean who cares about
science and the academic process?&lt;/div&gt;
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The jews believe it to
be true so according to them it must be so.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;References&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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(1)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2011/06/throwing-jew-down-well.html"&gt;http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2011/06/throwing-jew-down-well.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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(2)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13855238"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13855238&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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(3) The accepted view
 is well represented by one of its major proponents; Gavin Langmuir,
 who argues the ritual murder, the trial and concomitantly the
 massacre of the jews never happened and was a creation of Thomas of
 Monmouth. See Gavin Langmuir, 1984, &lt;i&gt;'Thomas  of Monmouth: Detector
 of Ritual Murder'&lt;/i&gt;, Speculum, Vol. 59, pp. 820-846&lt;/div&gt;
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(4)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.medievalists.net/2011/06/23/bodies-of-17-jews-from-medieval-norwich-may-have-been-mass-murder-victims-scholars-believe/"&gt;http://www.medievalists.net/2011/06/23/bodies-of-17-jews-from-medieval-norwich-may-have-been-mass-murder-victims-scholars-believe/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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(5)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/103175/norwich-bury-bones-%E2%80%94-jewish-or-not"&gt;http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/103175/norwich-bury-bones-%E2%80%94-jewish-or-not&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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(6) On this see Brian
 Crouch, 2002,  &lt;i&gt;'The Normans: The History of a Dynasty'&lt;/i&gt;, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
 Edition, Continuum: New York&lt;/div&gt;
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(7) David Bates, 2001,
 &lt;i&gt;'William the Conqueror'&lt;/i&gt;, 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; Edition, Tempus: Stoud, pp.
 181-186&lt;/div&gt;
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(8)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/103175/norwich-bury-bones-%E2%80%94-jewish-or-not"&gt;http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/103175/norwich-bury-bones-%E2%80%94-jewish-or-not&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Hat-tip to Bev at VNN for posting the story as I hadn't noticed there had been developments till she highlighted them.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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