Shuri-Ryu Karatedo Discussions - Warrior Pages Martial Arts Society

Sensei = Shodan or Sandan

2011-06-24T16:40:12.158Z

Hello all,

I was wondering if all Shuri schools bestow the title of sensei at Sandan. I have friends in other systems that do so at Shodan, but as far as I've noticed among Shuri folks its always been Sandan.

The Pinnacle seems to break things up like so (if I remember correctly):

Beginner - Yellow belt
Secondary basics - Blue through Purple
Intermediate - Browns through Shodan
Advanced - Nidan through Godan

I don't recall the Pinnacle stating where "Sensei" comes but from the above I wonder if Trias wasn't thinking of Shodan as Sensei at the time.

Thanx.

Where our kata came from.

2011-06-08T15:16:39.982Z

I have a short list, which may or may not be correct, that I'd like some help filling in, if anyone can.

Trias learned a great deal from many great people and I think we should know who gets credit for what, if possible, so here's the list:

Taikyoku - ?

Wansu - James Kennedy(?) Seibukan Shorin ryu lineage

Annaku - James Kennedy(?) Seibukan Shorin ryu lineage

Naihanchi Sho, Ni, San - ?

Sanchin - Charles Iverson(?) Goju-Ryu around 1960

Empi Sho - James Kennedy(?) Seibukan Shorin ryu lineage

Bassai Dai - ?

GoPeiSho - Trias recreated from work with Hsing

DanEnnSho - Trias recreated from work with Hsing

NanDanSho - ?

KankuSho - ?

Tensho - Charles Iverson 1960

SudoSho - Trias

Thanx

To learn from Tradition

2011-05-29T00:55:41.077Z

Hello,

Where did the translation, "To learn from tradition and to transcend" come from. I understand the word "shuhari" means this, but how does it apply to the name "shuri?"

Thank You.

Kata Kanji

2011-05-24T20:41:21.972Z

Does anyone have a list of the kata and there translated japanese names (kanji)?

Thank You.

KARATE-DO. The Supreme Way. Philosophy of Karatedo. Methods of Shuri- ryu

2011-04-07T14:28:10.734Z

I was wondering what content was in this book? I have the 1988 Revised Final Edition of The Pinnacle of Karate and wanted to know if there was anything different in The Supreme Way book from the Pinnacle?

I noticed that the Render Yourself Empty information was reproduced, from what I can tell by the index information, in the Pinnacle. So I am assuming that The Supreme Way is like wise reproduced in this book as well, but having never seen it, or seen the index, I just don't know. So if anyone could shed some light on this one for me I would be very grateful.

Why these kata?

2011-02-25T13:29:21.450Z

Looking across the vast history of Trias karate I find myself wondering why he choose only the kata currently listed in the Shuri Ryu curriculum.

Does anyone have any insight on this?

Hanshi Abele Videos

2010-07-05T03:28:58.982Z

Hello,

Does anyone have any videos of Hanshi Abele performing, especially kata, that they might be able to share?

Thank You.

O'Sensei Trias training films

2010-03-29T19:10:26.839Z

Hello all,
I have read in a few spots that there was a training film created by O'Sensei Trias. In a discussion with my instructor (Shihan Perez) about any video footage of O'Sensei a few months back, he said he personally didn't have any. I was wondering if there was any one who would be able to let me know where I might be able to find a copy of this. I think it would be most beneficial to keep this part of history alive as well as present it as a gift to my instructor. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Tim Smith

The Passing of Hanshi Ridgely Abele

2009-12-10T19:46:37.696Z

It is with a heavy heart that I received the news this morning - Hanshi Ridgely Abele has passed away. As many of you know, he fought hard against a disease that slowly drained his strength. However, that is not how he will be remembered.

He was a great teacher who insisted that Kihon be done correctly, that maximum energy be obtained from technique, and that you should exhibit professionalism over personality. He was a great mentor who helped me personally through some extremely difficult times in my life. And he was a great leader - enriching the lives of whoever he touched.

All of these things fall short of what Hanshi Abele was - a great man. Those who knew him looked up to him. He was s shining example of what you can do with your life and he lived his life the same way. The International Symposium will continue to be a dedication to his leadership.

He will be sorely missed by all of us - but will never be forgotten. His dedication to the martial arts and documenting the knowledge of Shuri-Ryu Karatedo was inspiring and he will live on in our memories. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family.

I would like to have people post stories here as an example of how Hanshi Abele had touched your life. If you have some funny stories, those are welcome. We should remember him for his sense of humor and his teachings.

Taezu Naru Waza #11

2009-10-14T17:50:03.096Z

Some of you may have heard that there is an 11th Taezu Naru Waza. Some of you may have never heard any hint of it.

However, since only 10 are documented in The Pinnacle by Grandmaster Robert Trias, and in Karatedo - Art, Sport, Science by Hanshi Ridgely Abele, and in Shuri-Ryu: A Path to Enlightenment by Hanshi Robert Bowles - it would seem that this is a "lost" technique.

I recently discussed this with Sensei Karl Wagner from Ashville, NC on this issue. He was very helpful in giving the background of the technique. With his permission - I have listed some of his answer here for the rest of you.

I will be listing the Taezu description when I have cleared up a couple of questions with Sensei Wagner.

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There is a number eleven Taezu. This is a remnant of the 'Shorei Days'. Apparently, when O'Sensi Trias formalized all of his karate into Shuri-ryu, it was left out. This is my (our) best guess.

Now, it is unofficially understood that O'Sensei Trias is the 'originator' of the Taezu Naru Wazas, as they do not show up anywhere else. Possibly they were a draw from the 'infamous' Hsing-Yi that we also have 'obscure' lineage to. One can check into the syllabus of Hsing-Yi and not find it there. I met a gentlemen one day at the Autozone store who has been training in Hsing-Yi for 36 years. He too, was without an answer for any connection.

When I was a green belt, I remember learning and working the 1-11 Taezu Naru Waza. Like I said, that was before the appointment of our O'Sensei Trias to stylehead of Shuri-ryu in the early '80's. As time went by, we found ourselves being transformed to Shuri-ryu stylists. Even then, in the '70's we were known as Shorei-Goju-ryu stylists. At any rate, we are now using just one through ten.

In our recent seminar, here in Asheville, with Terry Sanders Hanshi (Kaicho of Shorei-ryu, apppointed by O'Sensei Trias) we covered (briefly) the 11 Taezu(s).