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		<title>Comment on Ontario Bill to Amend the Electronic Commerce Act by John R. Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/20/47566/comment-page-1/#comment-795516</link>
		<dc:creator>John R. Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 15:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Summary&lt;/strong&gt;

John Gregory kindly told us about the May 17 private bill to amend the Ontario &lt;em&gt;Electronic Commerce Act, 2000 &lt;/em&gt;for real estate documents.

The main change in the bill will be that real estate documents are no longer excluded.  This would give effect to a recent recommendation by the Canadian Uniform Law Conference.  The change is an important piece of housekeeping and we should make it.

John questioned we should make some added changes that are in the bill.  In my view, it would be a mistake to make these added changes, and we should remove them from the bill.  But we do need to study a morass of old and new laws on real estate documents and to reform them.

&lt;strong&gt;Added changes&lt;/strong&gt;

Currently, the legal formalities for, say, giving a 5-year lease of a small store are perhaps entirely different from those for, say, giving a 1-year lease of a very large aircraft.  We must sign and seal the former, but we can perhaps use our judgment on how we execute the latter.

John has previously said that the Act was purposely "minimalist" and "technology-neutral," like the UN model and Acts in other jurisdictions.

We'll continue to refine the process for electronic signing, for everything from buying a book over the internet, to securely signing a contract using a service like &lt;a href="https://www.docusign.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;DocuSign&lt;/a&gt; or perhaps &lt;a href="http://www.arx.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Cosign&lt;/a&gt;.  We'll continue to use Teranet's secure process for registering electronic documents.  The "minimalist" and "technology-neutral" approach accommodates these refinements.

The Act now says that, where the law would require an electronic document to be signed, it must have an electronic signature.  This is electronic information that a person creates or adopts in order to sign the document and that is in, attached to or associated with the document.  We'd probably feel that this was a good test.

However, the Act may require more for some documents.  For these documents, the electronic signature must be more "reliable."  It must be more "reliable" for the purpose of both identifying the signer and associating the electronic signature with the document.  Whether the electronic signature is "reliable" depends on "all the circumstances."  These include "any relevant agreement, the purpose for which the document is created and the time the electronic signature is made."  We'd probably wonder what this requires and why it might be needed.

The documents for which the electronic signature was to be "reliable" in the above ways were to be described by regulation, but there's no regulation.  This confirms that we haven't yet needed to use the "extra-reliable" test.

The bill would say that some real estate documents must meet the "extra-reliable" test; a mere regulation won't do the job.

The bill would use the words in the old exclusion to describe the real estate documents that must meet the "extra-reliable" test.  This is, "Documents, including agreements of purchase and sale, that create or transfer interests in land and require registration to be effective against third parties."

Defining a kind of document is bound to cause confusion.  The above words are especially confusing.

For example, any agreements can create an "interest in land," if a court will order "specific performance" of it.  The agreement creates the interest, because equity regards something as done where it ought to have been done.  For an agreement of purchase and sale (which the words specifically mention), the courts routinely ordered specific performance, because every piece of land is unique.  Lately, the courts have accepted that many properties are so similar that damages are an adequate remedy.  It doesn't seem to be a good reason for deciding whether a document must meet the "extra-reliable" test, that a court will order specific performance of one agreement, but not another.

Or, for example, the Ontario &lt;em&gt;Land Titles Act &lt;/em&gt;either &lt;em&gt;guarantees&lt;/em&gt; some registered interests in land or &lt;em&gt;gives priority &lt;/em&gt;to some registered interests in land.  The Act doesn't directly deal with whether a document is "effective against third parties," or treat all documents the same way.  For example, a grant of a perpetual right of way needn't be registered, but a lease for a period yet to run of more than three years must be registered.  This doesn't seem to be a good reason for deciding whether a document must meet the "extra-reliable" test.

When we discuss the above words, we tend to refer loosely to the documents to which the words might apply.  We call them "land transfers" or "documents of title."  This can hide the true effect of describing a document according to whether it creates an interest in land and should be registered.

Real estate documents raise many formal issues.  Some formalities are ancient, like a seal on a deed, or written and signed evidence under the Statute of Frauds.  Even the realtors' standard agreements of purchase and sale purport to be "sealed," in order to make an offer irrevocable.  Section 13 of &lt;em&gt;Land Registration Reform Act &lt;/em&gt;does away with a seal on a transfer, charge or discharge.  Section 21 does away with writing and signing on an electronic document that creates an interest in land.

John Gregory's articles on &lt;a href="http://www.slaw.ca/2011/05/04/electronic-real-estate-transactions" rel="nofollow"&gt;electronic documents&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.slaw.ca/2011/10/28/electronic-seals" rel="nofollow"&gt;electronic seals&lt;/a&gt;, and the comments on them (including mine), deal with these issues.

&lt;strong&gt;Conclusion&lt;/strong&gt;

We need to study the morass of old and new laws on real estate documents and to reform them.  The added changes in the bill only touch the surface of this morass.  For the time being, we should make the important housekeeping change recommended by the Canadian Uniform Law Conference, by removing the exclusion for some real estate documents.  We should defer the added changes in the bill until we can study the issues and deal with them fully.

This may disappoint people in the real estate industry, but they would be wise to press for a full solution.  In the meantime, the above articles may show that our existing laws aren't as serious an obstacle to electronic transactions as might appear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Summary</strong></p>
<p>John Gregory kindly told us about the May 17 private bill to amend the Ontario <em>Electronic Commerce Act, 2000 </em>for real estate documents.</p>
<p>The main change in the bill will be that real estate documents are no longer excluded.  This would give effect to a recent recommendation by the Canadian Uniform Law Conference.  The change is an important piece of housekeeping and we should make it.</p>
<p>John questioned we should make some added changes that are in the bill.  In my view, it would be a mistake to make these added changes, and we should remove them from the bill.  But we do need to study a morass of old and new laws on real estate documents and to reform them.</p>
<p><strong>Added changes</strong></p>
<p>Currently, the legal formalities for, say, giving a 5-year lease of a small store are perhaps entirely different from those for, say, giving a 1-year lease of a very large aircraft.  We must sign and seal the former, but we can perhaps use our judgment on how we execute the latter.</p>
<p>John has previously said that the Act was purposely &#034;minimalist&#034; and &#034;technology-neutral,&#034; like the UN model and Acts in other jurisdictions.</p>
<p>We&#039;ll continue to refine the process for electronic signing, for everything from buying a book over the internet, to securely signing a contract using a service like <a href="https://www.docusign.com">DocuSign</a> or perhaps <a href="http://www.arx.com">Cosign</a>.  We&#039;ll continue to use Teranet&#039;s secure process for registering electronic documents.  The &#034;minimalist&#034; and &#034;technology-neutral&#034; approach accommodates these refinements.</p>
<p>The Act now says that, where the law would require an electronic document to be signed, it must have an electronic signature.  This is electronic information that a person creates or adopts in order to sign the document and that is in, attached to or associated with the document.  We&#039;d probably feel that this was a good test.</p>
<p>However, the Act may require more for some documents.  For these documents, the electronic signature must be more &#034;reliable.&#034;  It must be more &#034;reliable&#034; for the purpose of both identifying the signer and associating the electronic signature with the document.  Whether the electronic signature is &#034;reliable&#034; depends on &#034;all the circumstances.&#034;  These include &#034;any relevant agreement, the purpose for which the document is created and the time the electronic signature is made.&#034;  We&#039;d probably wonder what this requires and why it might be needed.</p>
<p>The documents for which the electronic signature was to be &#034;reliable&#034; in the above ways were to be described by regulation, but there&#039;s no regulation.  This confirms that we haven&#039;t yet needed to use the &#034;extra-reliable&#034; test.</p>
<p>The bill would say that some real estate documents must meet the &#034;extra-reliable&#034; test; a mere regulation won&#039;t do the job.</p>
<p>The bill would use the words in the old exclusion to describe the real estate documents that must meet the &#034;extra-reliable&#034; test.  This is, &#034;Documents, including agreements of purchase and sale, that create or transfer interests in land and require registration to be effective against third parties.&#034;</p>
<p>Defining a kind of document is bound to cause confusion.  The above words are especially confusing.</p>
<p>For example, any agreements can create an &#034;interest in land,&#034; if a court will order &#034;specific performance&#034; of it.  The agreement creates the interest, because equity regards something as done where it ought to have been done.  For an agreement of purchase and sale (which the words specifically mention), the courts routinely ordered specific performance, because every piece of land is unique.  Lately, the courts have accepted that many properties are so similar that damages are an adequate remedy.  It doesn&#039;t seem to be a good reason for deciding whether a document must meet the &#034;extra-reliable&#034; test, that a court will order specific performance of one agreement, but not another.</p>
<p>Or, for example, the Ontario <em>Land Titles Act </em>either <em>guarantees</em> some registered interests in land or <em>gives priority </em>to some registered interests in land.  The Act doesn&#039;t directly deal with whether a document is &#034;effective against third parties,&#034; or treat all documents the same way.  For example, a grant of a perpetual right of way needn&#039;t be registered, but a lease for a period yet to run of more than three years must be registered.  This doesn&#039;t seem to be a good reason for deciding whether a document must meet the &#034;extra-reliable&#034; test.</p>
<p>When we discuss the above words, we tend to refer loosely to the documents to which the words might apply.  We call them &#034;land transfers&#034; or &#034;documents of title.&#034;  This can hide the true effect of describing a document according to whether it creates an interest in land and should be registered.</p>
<p>Real estate documents raise many formal issues.  Some formalities are ancient, like a seal on a deed, or written and signed evidence under the Statute of Frauds.  Even the realtors&#039; standard agreements of purchase and sale purport to be &#034;sealed,&#034; in order to make an offer irrevocable.  Section 13 of <em>Land Registration Reform Act </em>does away with a seal on a transfer, charge or discharge.  Section 21 does away with writing and signing on an electronic document that creates an interest in land.</p>
<p>John Gregory&#039;s articles on <a href="http://www.slaw.ca/2011/05/04/electronic-real-estate-transactions">electronic documents</a> and <a href="http://www.slaw.ca/2011/10/28/electronic-seals">electronic seals</a>, and the comments on them (including mine), deal with these issues.</p>
<p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
<p>We need to study the morass of old and new laws on real estate documents and to reform them.  The added changes in the bill only touch the surface of this morass.  For the time being, we should make the important housekeeping change recommended by the Canadian Uniform Law Conference, by removing the exclusion for some real estate documents.  We should defer the added changes in the bill until we can study the issues and deal with them fully.</p>
<p>This may disappoint people in the real estate industry, but they would be wise to press for a full solution.  In the meantime, the above articles may show that our existing laws aren&#039;t as serious an obstacle to electronic transactions as might appear.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Could Cellphone Use Constitute Electronic Presence at Crime? by John Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/24/could-cellphone-use-constitute-electronic-presence-at-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-795512</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 13:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my view, the question of 'presence' is misleading. The question is causation. One might cause an accident without being present in a number of ways. Suppose the remote person had drugged the driver or tampered with his motorcycle. In either case that person would fairly be held at least partly responsible for the accident.

In this case the court or jury could fairly hold that the caller was partly responsible, since the course of conduct meant that it was reasonably foreseeable that the driver would engage with her text message while driving, just as he had done with the previous one, and the one before that.  The driver was clearly also responsible, but it's not obvious that he was 100% responsible.

On different facts - where the caller/texter did not know where the recipient was or did not know that he was going to read or answer a message while driving, the caller/texter would not be liable. But it's not the remoteness that makes that so; it's the usual tort tests of causation and reasonable foreseeability.

Perhaps David "Causation" Cheifetz has a more precise view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my view, the question of &#039;presence&#039; is misleading. The question is causation. One might cause an accident without being present in a number of ways. Suppose the remote person had drugged the driver or tampered with his motorcycle. In either case that person would fairly be held at least partly responsible for the accident.</p>
<p>In this case the court or jury could fairly hold that the caller was partly responsible, since the course of conduct meant that it was reasonably foreseeable that the driver would engage with her text message while driving, just as he had done with the previous one, and the one before that.  The driver was clearly also responsible, but it&#039;s not obvious that he was 100% responsible.</p>
<p>On different facts &#8211; where the caller/texter did not know where the recipient was or did not know that he was going to read or answer a message while driving, the caller/texter would not be liable. But it&#039;s not the remoteness that makes that so; it&#039;s the usual tort tests of causation and reasonable foreseeability.</p>
<p>Perhaps David &#034;Causation&#034; Cheifetz has a more precise view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Western Premiers' Conference, May 29 by John Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/25/western-premiers-conference-may-29/comment-page-1/#comment-795511</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 12:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tragically un-hip, the latter group, apparently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tragically un-hip, the latter group, apparently.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Paper Form by John Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/25/the-paper-form/comment-page-1/#comment-795510</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 12:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thephilanthropist.ca/index.php/phil" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Philanthropist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; is now an online journal about the law, policy and management of charitable and not for profit activities. It used to be a print publication but moved online a couple of years ago. (All the back issues from its creation in the early 1970s are online in PDF.)

However, it occasionally publishes a print version. It did so to mark the Centre for Philanthropy's National Summit on philanthropic issues last November. It also permits the download of an entire issue at a time, as well as reading any or all of the content online.

So: the boundary between print and electronic is, as Mark says, porous and not fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><a href="http://www.thephilanthropist.ca/index.php/phil">The Philanthropist</a></em> is now an online journal about the law, policy and management of charitable and not for profit activities. It used to be a print publication but moved online a couple of years ago. (All the back issues from its creation in the early 1970s are online in PDF.)</p>
<p>However, it occasionally publishes a print version. It did so to mark the Centre for Philanthropy&#039;s National Summit on philanthropic issues last November. It also permits the download of an entire issue at a time, as well as reading any or all of the content online.</p>
<p>So: the boundary between print and electronic is, as Mark says, porous and not fixed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BCSC Rules Hearing Fees Unconsitutional Barrier to Access by John Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/23/bcsc-rules-hearing-fees-unconsitutional-barrier-to-access/comment-page-1/#comment-795509</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 12:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it make sense to say that filing fees are OK but hearing fees are not? Could filing fees now be increased to cover the costs to the system that hearing fees have helped discharge up to now?

How about legal fees? Presumably they are safe from consititional attack, though far in excess of the hearing fees in most cases, because they are not imposed by the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it make sense to say that filing fees are OK but hearing fees are not? Could filing fees now be increased to cover the costs to the system that hearing fees have helped discharge up to now?</p>
<p>How about legal fees? Presumably they are safe from consititional attack, though far in excess of the hearing fees in most cases, because they are not imposed by the state.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Domain Name Is Property in … All of Canada by David Cheifetz</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/25/domain-name-is-property-in-all-of-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-795465</link>
		<dc:creator>David Cheifetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 16:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Presumably the decision of the Supreme Court of Canada not to give leave is a strong indication that this reasoning is valid across the country, at least on the property issue and at least in common-law jurisdictions&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No more (or less) valid than if leave hadn't been sought.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Presumably the decision of the Supreme Court of Canada not to give leave is a strong indication that this reasoning is valid across the country, at least on the property issue and at least in common-law jurisdictions</p></blockquote>
<p>No more (or less) valid than if leave hadn&#039;t been sought.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fillip: Down With Disaster by alanc230</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/25/the-friday-fillip-down-with-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-795463</link>
		<dc:creator>alanc230</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 15:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but sometimes - just sometimes - things go by the book, and then all may be well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but sometimes &#8211; just sometimes &#8211; things go by the book, and then all may be well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Director of Innovation for Law Firms? by anthony don</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/director-of-innovation-for-law-firms/comment-page-1/#comment-795446</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 08:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with this analysis. At Keep Alert, we are building a software for on-line brand monitoring intended for IP law firms. As a CTO, my job is to find solutions to help IP lawyers, to pro-actively and efficiently monitor the web for infringing uses of their client's trademarks.

I had the chance to attend the last INTA meeting in DC. This was an opportunity to discuss the various on-line artifacts of a trademark on the Internet (domain name, social media, search engine marketing) with IP professional. I was surprised by the chasm between the practices regarding on-line brand protection. Either in terms of the used business models or technologies.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with this analysis. At Keep Alert, we are building a software for on-line brand monitoring intended for IP law firms. As a CTO, my job is to find solutions to help IP lawyers, to pro-actively and efficiently monitor the web for infringing uses of their client&#039;s trademarks.</p>
<p>I had the chance to attend the last INTA meeting in DC. This was an opportunity to discuss the various on-line artifacts of a trademark on the Internet (domain name, social media, search engine marketing) with IP professional. I was surprised by the chasm between the practices regarding on-line brand protection. Either in terms of the used business models or technologies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BCSC Rules Hearing Fees Unconsitutional Barrier to Access by Kim Nayyer</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/23/bcsc-rules-hearing-fees-unconsitutional-barrier-to-access/comment-page-1/#comment-795432</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Nayyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 23:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Jamie, and congratulations to all on this collaborative pro bono effort. It is an interesting case with thoughtful constitutional arguments. Yes, it will be interesting to watch the continued course of this case - or any legislative amendments that might follow instead.

-Kim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Jamie, and congratulations to all on this collaborative pro bono effort. It is an interesting case with thoughtful constitutional arguments. Yes, it will be interesting to watch the continued course of this case &#8211; or any legislative amendments that might follow instead.</p>
<p>-Kim</p>
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		<title>Comment on ABS – the Saviour of Solos and Small Firms? by Nick West</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/24/abs-the-saviour-of-solos-and-small-firms/comment-page-1/#comment-795431</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 23:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitch
Nice post
I am reading this on the ABS side of the pond, so I thought I might add to the debate. 
First, what is happening in the UK market is nothing short of a revolution in legal services. Long time Slaw readers will know that
Second, of the 2 examples you gave, Co-op is the one to watch. They are a multi faceted consumer brand - groceries, financial services, funerals and now legal - with presence on most high streets in the UK. Stobart is, frankly speaking, odd
Third, the most pertinent development in the UK for small and solos is the creation of franchises such as Quality Solicitors - firms can apply to be part of the franchise and if approved get to benefit from a big brand with huge marketing spend (a recent £15m tv ad campaign for example). It's more than safety in numbers.
Finally in response to the previous poster, the legal market regulator (the Solicitors Regulation Authority) has been beefed up to ensure the new regime works. It took 4 years from announcement of the changes to their implementation and there are very strict checks made on anyone applying to be an ABS. To date several hundred applications have been made and only 6 have been approved, with the others still going through the process

I'd be very happy to chat to anyone about what is going on over here, if I can be at all helpful

Best
Nick West
Director of Legal Markets, LexisNexis UK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitch<br />
Nice post<br />
I am reading this on the ABS side of the pond, so I thought I might add to the debate.<br />
First, what is happening in the UK market is nothing short of a revolution in legal services. Long time Slaw readers will know that<br />
Second, of the 2 examples you gave, Co-op is the one to watch. They are a multi faceted consumer brand &#8211; groceries, financial services, funerals and now legal &#8211; with presence on most high streets in the UK. Stobart is, frankly speaking, odd<br />
Third, the most pertinent development in the UK for small and solos is the creation of franchises such as Quality Solicitors &#8211; firms can apply to be part of the franchise and if approved get to benefit from a big brand with huge marketing spend (a recent £15m tv ad campaign for example). It&#039;s more than safety in numbers.<br />
Finally in response to the previous poster, the legal market regulator (the Solicitors Regulation Authority) has been beefed up to ensure the new regime works. It took 4 years from announcement of the changes to their implementation and there are very strict checks made on anyone applying to be an ABS. To date several hundred applications have been made and only 6 have been approved, with the others still going through the process</p>
<p>I&#039;d be very happy to chat to anyone about what is going on over here, if I can be at all helpful</p>
<p>Best<br />
Nick West<br />
Director of Legal Markets, LexisNexis UK</p>
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		<title>Comment on BCSC Rules Hearing Fees Unconsitutional Barrier to Access by Jamie Maclaren</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/23/bcsc-rules-hearing-fees-unconsitutional-barrier-to-access/comment-page-1/#comment-795430</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Maclaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 20:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting on this very important case, Kim. I was pro bono counsel for the plaintiff Vilardell, and I can tell you that the interveners did ALL of the lifting for the determinative constitutional arguments. Sharon Matthews (current CBA-BC Branch President) and Melina Buckley, QC (current Chair of the CBA's National Access to Justice Committee) represented the intervening CBA-BC Branch, while Darrell Roberts, QC (who was counsel for the respondent in AGBC v. Christie, 2007 SCC 21) represented the intervening Trial Lawyers Association of BC.  It was a beautiful collaborative effort-- all done pro bono of course.

The early thinking is that the AG will not hesitate to appeal the decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting on this very important case, Kim. I was pro bono counsel for the plaintiff Vilardell, and I can tell you that the interveners did ALL of the lifting for the determinative constitutional arguments. Sharon Matthews (current CBA-BC Branch President) and Melina Buckley, QC (current Chair of the CBA&#039;s National Access to Justice Committee) represented the intervening CBA-BC Branch, while Darrell Roberts, QC (who was counsel for the respondent in AGBC v. Christie, 2007 SCC 21) represented the intervening Trial Lawyers Association of BC.  It was a beautiful collaborative effort&#8211; all done pro bono of course.</p>
<p>The early thinking is that the AG will not hesitate to appeal the decision.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BCSC Rules Hearing Fees Unconsitutional Barrier to Access by Kim Nayyer</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/23/bcsc-rules-hearing-fees-unconsitutional-barrier-to-access/comment-page-1/#comment-795428</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Nayyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 20:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again via &lt;a href="http://www.courthouselibrary.ca/training/NewsByCategory/NewsDetails.aspx?id=d7aacdab-bdb4-448a-a2fc-a0d4bad632e3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Courthouse Libraries BC&lt;/a&gt;, I see the CBABC issued a media release on the ruling: &lt;a href="http://www.cba.org/BC/Public_Media/news_2012/news_05_23_12.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;Court Ruling a ‘Win’ for Equality and Access to Justice&lt;/a&gt;

An excerpt:
&lt;blockquote&gt;...“We are delighted that access to the courts has been upheld as a “common good” and that government has been found responsible for ensuring equality of access for all,” said CBABC Past President Stephen McPhee, QC.
...
...This is a landmark decision with far-reaching impact across the country in terms of a resounding statement of the legal principles that pertain to equal access to justice.

“The CBABC views the decision in Vilardell v. Dunham as a welcome confirmation of the right of everyone to equal access to justice. Mr. Justice McEwan has declared hearing fees unconstitutional and in so doing found that the fees, which escalate to over $600 per day, are an impediment to the courts for all but those who are well to do,” said Mr McPhee. “This decision reaffirms that the courts exist for everyone, regardless of their wealth or the size of their case. In the current context of justice reform, the decision is a comprehensive and compelling review of the legal principles that direct how government and the courts must interact to fulfill their constitutional responsibilities.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again via <a href="http://www.courthouselibrary.ca/training/NewsByCategory/NewsDetails.aspx?id=d7aacdab-bdb4-448a-a2fc-a0d4bad632e3">Courthouse Libraries BC</a>, I see the CBABC issued a media release on the ruling: <a href="http://www.cba.org/BC/Public_Media/news_2012/news_05_23_12.aspx">Court Ruling a ‘Win’ for Equality and Access to Justice</a></p>
<p>An excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;“We are delighted that access to the courts has been upheld as a “common good” and that government has been found responsible for ensuring equality of access for all,” said CBABC Past President Stephen McPhee, QC.<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8230;This is a landmark decision with far-reaching impact across the country in terms of a resounding statement of the legal principles that pertain to equal access to justice.</p>
<p>“The CBABC views the decision in Vilardell v. Dunham as a welcome confirmation of the right of everyone to equal access to justice. Mr. Justice McEwan has declared hearing fees unconstitutional and in so doing found that the fees, which escalate to over $600 per day, are an impediment to the courts for all but those who are well to do,” said Mr McPhee. “This decision reaffirms that the courts exist for everyone, regardless of their wealth or the size of their case. In the current context of justice reform, the decision is a comprehensive and compelling review of the legal principles that direct how government and the courts must interact to fulfill their constitutional responsibilities.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fillip: Randomness by Melanie Bueckert</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/18/the-friday-fillip-randomness/comment-page-1/#comment-795418</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Bueckert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 15:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use the site to generate a list of random numbers when assigning presentation time slots in my law school classes (with students numbered based on the last name alphabetically-sorted list provided by the law school).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the site to generate a list of random numbers when assigning presentation time slots in my law school classes (with students numbered based on the last name alphabetically-sorted list provided by the law school).</p>
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		<title>Comment on New York Attempts Mandatory Takedown Rule for Anonymous Comments by The Wet One</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/24/new-york-attempts-mandatory-takedown-rule-for-anonymous-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-795417</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wet One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 15:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why o why would an American state try to preserver freedom, especially freedom of speech, in its laws?  Have we not seen how much Americans value freedom in this age of fear, cowardice, persecution and oppression?  

Consider the Patriot Act, the recent constitutional votes on the rights of minorities and historical issues of freedom in the United States (not that Canada or anywhere else is a whole lot better), and I don't think anyone should be much surprised about the content of this law.  Why should anyone have the ability to shout out from the peanut gallery and annoy the annointed?  That's not the way things really get done in America these days.  Unless you're calling Obama a liar during a State of the Union address, that is.

Anyways, I've shared enough of my cynicism born of long observation of how Americans actually act as opposed to what they say.  I should instead watch American Idol so I can be happier, more maleable consumer which is what modern day America ordered up.

Thankfully, I'm not American, and I can remain for now at least safely anonymous...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why o why would an American state try to preserver freedom, especially freedom of speech, in its laws?  Have we not seen how much Americans value freedom in this age of fear, cowardice, persecution and oppression?  </p>
<p>Consider the Patriot Act, the recent constitutional votes on the rights of minorities and historical issues of freedom in the United States (not that Canada or anywhere else is a whole lot better), and I don&#039;t think anyone should be much surprised about the content of this law.  Why should anyone have the ability to shout out from the peanut gallery and annoy the annointed?  That&#039;s not the way things really get done in America these days.  Unless you&#039;re calling Obama a liar during a State of the Union address, that is.</p>
<p>Anyways, I&#039;ve shared enough of my cynicism born of long observation of how Americans actually act as opposed to what they say.  I should instead watch American Idol so I can be happier, more maleable consumer which is what modern day America ordered up.</p>
<p>Thankfully, I&#039;m not American, and I can remain for now at least safely anonymous&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on ABS – the Saviour of Solos and Small Firms? by The Wet One</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/24/abs-the-saviour-of-solos-and-small-firms/comment-page-1/#comment-795416</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wet One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 15:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, seeing as how the professional is unable, unwilling and probably incompetent at delivering the services John Q Public needs at a price that John Q Public can pay, probably ABS is required on this side of the pond too.  

The law is not merely the purview of the moneyed elite as it sometimes seems to be.

That said, how will professional obligations be maintained in the new arena?  I guess the barristers and solicitors of the U.K. shall lead the way and let us know by trial an error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, seeing as how the professional is unable, unwilling and probably incompetent at delivering the services John Q Public needs at a price that John Q Public can pay, probably ABS is required on this side of the pond too.  </p>
<p>The law is not merely the purview of the moneyed elite as it sometimes seems to be.</p>
<p>That said, how will professional obligations be maintained in the new arena?  I guess the barristers and solicitors of the U.K. shall lead the way and let us know by trial an error.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Crime and Cultural Property by Maggie Fish</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/crime-and-cultural-property/comment-page-1/#comment-795414</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 14:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the Symposium's Twitter account: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/#!/CrimeInArtWorld" rel="nofollow"&gt;https://twitter.com/#!/CrimeInArtWorld&lt;/a&gt;

It has the latest updates on the Symposium, neat factoids, and more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the Symposium&#039;s Twitter account: <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/CrimeInArtWorld">https://twitter.com/#!/CrimeInArtWorld</a></p>
<p>It has the latest updates on the Symposium, neat factoids, and more.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Capital Punishment Enthusiasm Is Misplaced by The Wet One</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/16/capital-punishment-enthusiasm-is-misplaced/comment-page-1/#comment-795390</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wet One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, they most certainly won't be saying anything from the rooftops.  Those who support capital punishment do so out of ideology, not out of a sense of justice.  The more I hear from them and whenever my sense of vengeance gets out of control, what they (and I from time to time) want is blood.  Anyone's blood will do.  They want to be the screaming mob that cheers at the destruction of another human being.  They want the death of another because they can finally kill someone (even if only very remotely).  They want to lynch another human being to satisfy their urges to kill.

For my part, I generally call for killing everyone.  After all, not one is righteous and we're all sinners deserving of an eternity in Hellfire.  That seems fair enough for me and we have the nukes, biological and chemical weapons in numbers and quality sufficient to make it a reality.  This is merely the logical outcome of our death penalty driving bloodlust in my view and there's no good reason it ought not be pursued (we've spent trillions of dollars on this after all, and surely we didn't spend all that money on pure stupidity and evil did we?).

I won't pretend that this view is seeking justice, but it sure as heck is seeking something that the human heart and soul deeply desires.

The Wet One</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, they most certainly won&#039;t be saying anything from the rooftops.  Those who support capital punishment do so out of ideology, not out of a sense of justice.  The more I hear from them and whenever my sense of vengeance gets out of control, what they (and I from time to time) want is blood.  Anyone&#039;s blood will do.  They want to be the screaming mob that cheers at the destruction of another human being.  They want the death of another because they can finally kill someone (even if only very remotely).  They want to lynch another human being to satisfy their urges to kill.</p>
<p>For my part, I generally call for killing everyone.  After all, not one is righteous and we&#039;re all sinners deserving of an eternity in Hellfire.  That seems fair enough for me and we have the nukes, biological and chemical weapons in numbers and quality sufficient to make it a reality.  This is merely the logical outcome of our death penalty driving bloodlust in my view and there&#039;s no good reason it ought not be pursued (we&#039;ve spent trillions of dollars on this after all, and surely we didn&#039;t spend all that money on pure stupidity and evil did we?).</p>
<p>I won&#039;t pretend that this view is seeking justice, but it sure as heck is seeking something that the human heart and soul deeply desires.</p>
<p>The Wet One</p>
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		<title>Comment on Crime and Cultural Property by Bonnie Czegledi</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/crime-and-cultural-property/comment-page-1/#comment-795388</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Czegledi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 19:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Symposium Sneak Peek: An RCMP officer will walk us through two successful cultural heritage crimes prosecutions.</description>
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		<title>Comment on What Part of "No" Don't You Understand, O Gracious Crown? by John Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/22/what-part-of-no-dont-you-understand-o-gracious-crown/comment-page-1/#comment-795385</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 16:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the government's argument that it is not providing services but rather money, and paying money to people is not providing a service to them - even if the government knows that the recipients will buy services with the money? I think that argument is pretty easy to understand, i.e. it's plain enough.

It is a separate question whether the tribunal or a court should go behind that plain argument to say (along the lines of 'and no plainer...') that the payments were expressly or impliedly provided in lieu of services or to permit the receipt of services, or both, and therefore the payment was the equivalent of providing services and covered by the statute.

Plain language is not plain meaning. Plain language is intended to convey plain meaning. It may or may not succeed.

The 'modern sense' presumably refers to the 'modern method' of statutory interpretation, which avoids older tests like 'the mischief rule' or 'the plain meaning rule' or various presumptions, and says that one has to read the whole text in context to understand what the text means.

In this case reading the statute in the context of the history of the parties and the payment system might be helpful in deciding whether the payments should be treated as the equivalent of services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the government&#039;s argument that it is not providing services but rather money, and paying money to people is not providing a service to them &#8211; even if the government knows that the recipients will buy services with the money? I think that argument is pretty easy to understand, i.e. it&#039;s plain enough.</p>
<p>It is a separate question whether the tribunal or a court should go behind that plain argument to say (along the lines of &#039;and no plainer&#8230;&#039;) that the payments were expressly or impliedly provided in lieu of services or to permit the receipt of services, or both, and therefore the payment was the equivalent of providing services and covered by the statute.</p>
<p>Plain language is not plain meaning. Plain language is intended to convey plain meaning. It may or may not succeed.</p>
<p>The &#039;modern sense&#039; presumably refers to the &#039;modern method&#039; of statutory interpretation, which avoids older tests like &#039;the mischief rule&#039; or &#039;the plain meaning rule&#039; or various presumptions, and says that one has to read the whole text in context to understand what the text means.</p>
<p>In this case reading the statute in the context of the history of the parties and the payment system might be helpful in deciding whether the payments should be treated as the equivalent of services.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ontario Bill to Amend the Electronic Commerce Act by John Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/20/47566/comment-page-1/#comment-795382</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 16:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure I understand all of the previous comment.

With respect to signatures, if one imposes a reliability requirement, is there not a risk that some e-signatures will be held invalid for insufficient reliability, even if everyone knows who did them and why? Today in Ontario one does not need a signature on a real estate transfer (Land Registration Reform Act s. 19), so is it necesary to impose an open-ended technology requirement?

The third point deals with documents of title. Documents of title are not used to convey real estate. Thus that provision will not facilitate electronic land transfers.

Is it safe to allow the E-Commerce Act to apply to documents of title without any safeguards or barriers to promote security or uniqueness of the document, and to deal with the consequences? (New Brunswick's Electronic Transactions Act has never excluded them; everyone else's does SFAIK.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure I understand all of the previous comment.</p>
<p>With respect to signatures, if one imposes a reliability requirement, is there not a risk that some e-signatures will be held invalid for insufficient reliability, even if everyone knows who did them and why? Today in Ontario one does not need a signature on a real estate transfer (Land Registration Reform Act s. 19), so is it necesary to impose an open-ended technology requirement?</p>
<p>The third point deals with documents of title. Documents of title are not used to convey real estate. Thus that provision will not facilitate electronic land transfers.</p>
<p>Is it safe to allow the E-Commerce Act to apply to documents of title without any safeguards or barriers to promote security or uniqueness of the document, and to deal with the consequences? (New Brunswick&#039;s Electronic Transactions Act has never excluded them; everyone else&#039;s does SFAIK.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on B.C. to Have Official Online Dispute Resolution by Erik Magraken</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/10/b-c-to-have-official-online-dispute-resolution/comment-page-1/#comment-795380</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Magraken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 14:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding to the constitutional aspect of this debate Mr. Justice McEwan's reasons addressing the legislature's duty to properly fund the judiciary are timely, helpful and worth reviewing in full:

http://bc-injury-law.com/blog/bc-court-hearing-fees-declared-unconstitutional-legislature-reminded-duty-maintain-judiciary

Yours truly,

Erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding to the constitutional aspect of this debate Mr. Justice McEwan&#039;s reasons addressing the legislature&#039;s duty to properly fund the judiciary are timely, helpful and worth reviewing in full:</p>
<p><a href="http://bc-injury-law.com/blog/bc-court-hearing-fees-declared-unconstitutional-legislature-reminded-duty-maintain-judiciary">http://bc-injury-law.com/blog/bc-court-hearing-fees-declared-unconstitutional-legislature-reminded-duty-maintain-judiciary</a></p>
<p>Yours truly,</p>
<p>Erik</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ontario Bill to Amend the Electronic Commerce Act by esign</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/20/47566/comment-page-1/#comment-795369</link>
		<dc:creator>esign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 09:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think provisions made in ecommerce act has been implemented well, there is a definite requirement of transparent medium for land transfers, it has been the current scenario that made this deployment necessary, with above mentioned 3 points you can find the better utilization of the technique that needs proper security in terms of support provided by authorities.

&lt;a href="http://www.arx.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;esign&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think provisions made in ecommerce act has been implemented well, there is a definite requirement of transparent medium for land transfers, it has been the current scenario that made this deployment necessary, with above mentioned 3 points you can find the better utilization of the technique that needs proper security in terms of support provided by authorities.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.arx.com">esign</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Twitter Updates Privacy Policy and Terms of Service by Connie Crosby</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/22/twitter-updates-privacy-policy-and-terms-of-service/comment-page-1/#comment-795356</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 03:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow--you Mireaus are pretty smart. A quarter check of TOS' is a great idea.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Victoria Day Holiday by John Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/21/victoria-day-holiday/comment-page-1/#comment-795320</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 11:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was a kid, back in the middle of the last century, the official name of the holiday was Empire Day. The unofficial name was Firecracker Day, for obvious reasons. It was less usual to do fireworks on Dominion Day, as it then was. The pyrotechnical industry has shifted its focus, or at least split it, in favour of July 1, it seems to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a kid, back in the middle of the last century, the official name of the holiday was Empire Day. The unofficial name was Firecracker Day, for obvious reasons. It was less usual to do fireworks on Dominion Day, as it then was. The pyrotechnical industry has shifted its focus, or at least split it, in favour of July 1, it seems to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Victoria Day Holiday by Lloyd Duhaime</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/21/victoria-day-holiday/comment-page-1/#comment-795243</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Duhaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 19:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon, if it makes you feel any better, it is raining on the Victoria Day Parade here (Victoria) in the city named after the English Queen (I know - she's ours too) for whom the stat holiday was named (Phew. Out of breath after that opening). Because of that ... that pause ... that opening in the legal cosmos ... that I'm stuck "in" with a "24", and to eke something out of the $13K it cost me to visit the Harry Potter Theme Park in Orlando (I lost the family vote), the spirit(s) moved me to share what we know about magic, witchcraft and law at &lt;a href="http://www.duhaime.org/LawMag/LawArticle-1417/Hocus-Pocus-Law-Mock-Not-What-You-Understand-Not.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;Hocus Pocus Law: Mock Not What You Understand Not&lt;/a&gt;. Just sayin'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon, if it makes you feel any better, it is raining on the Victoria Day Parade here (Victoria) in the city named after the English Queen (I know &#8211; she&#039;s ours too) for whom the stat holiday was named (Phew. Out of breath after that opening). Because of that &#8230; that pause &#8230; that opening in the legal cosmos &#8230; that I&#039;m stuck &#034;in&#034; with a &#034;24&#034;, and to eke something out of the $13K it cost me to visit the Harry Potter Theme Park in Orlando (I lost the family vote), the spirit(s) moved me to share what we know about magic, witchcraft and law at <a href="http://www.duhaime.org/LawMag/LawArticle-1417/Hocus-Pocus-Law-Mock-Not-What-You-Understand-Not.aspx">Hocus Pocus Law: Mock Not What You Understand Not</a>. Just sayin&#039;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Victoria Day Holiday by John G</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/21/victoria-day-holiday/comment-page-1/#comment-795210</link>
		<dc:creator>John G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 15:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same redundancy occurs in Ontario under the &lt;a href="http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_06l21_e.htm#s88s2" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Legislation Act, 2006&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Neither the federal nor the provincial statute gives us the day off, however, as distinct from enjoining us to celebration. In Ontario that more practical function is served by the &lt;a href="http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90r30_e.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Retail Business Holidays Act&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; or the &lt;a href="http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_00e41_e.htm#s1s1" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Employment Standards Act.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Neither allows the Governor General to give employees a holiday in this sense; only provincial proclamations can have that effect.)

Interpretation legislations merely tell us what days may be meant when a statute or regulation refers to a 'holiday', often by way of saying that some deadline for an official action is extended for a day past the holiday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same redundancy occurs in Ontario under the <a href="http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_06l21_e.htm#s88s2"><em>Legislation Act, 2006</em></a>.</p>
<p>Neither the federal nor the provincial statute gives us the day off, however, as distinct from enjoining us to celebration. In Ontario that more practical function is served by the <a href="http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90r30_e.htm"><em>Retail Business Holidays Act</em></a> or the <a href="http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_00e41_e.htm#s1s1"><em>Employment Standards Act.</em></a> (Neither allows the Governor General to give employees a holiday in this sense; only provincial proclamations can have that effect.)</p>
<p>Interpretation legislations merely tell us what days may be meant when a statute or regulation refers to a &#039;holiday&#039;, often by way of saying that some deadline for an official action is extended for a day past the holiday.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Victoria Day Holiday by John N. Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/21/victoria-day-holiday/comment-page-1/#comment-795208</link>
		<dc:creator>John N. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 12:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope everyone also remembers to wish our present Queen a happy birthday. Her actual birthday is April 21, but by &lt;a href="http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/canada-gazette/093/001060-119.01-e.php?image_id_nbr=741133&amp;document_id_nbr=12042&amp;f=g" rel="nofollow"&gt;a proclamation, dated January 31, 1957&lt;/a&gt;, today is the day fixed for its celebration in Canada.

For better or worse, this makes for a small redundancy in the definition of "holiday" in &lt;a href="http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-21/section-35.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;section 35&lt;/a&gt; of the &lt;cite&gt;Interpretation Act&lt;/cite&gt;, R.S.C. 1985, c. I-21.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope everyone also remembers to wish our present Queen a happy birthday. Her actual birthday is April 21, but by <a href="http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/canada-gazette/093/001060-119.01-e.php?image_id_nbr=741133&amp;document_id_nbr=12042&amp;f=g">a proclamation, dated January 31, 1957</a>, today is the day fixed for its celebration in Canada.</p>
<p>For better or worse, this makes for a small redundancy in the definition of &#034;holiday&#034; in <a href="http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-21/section-35.html">section 35</a> of the <cite>Interpretation Act</cite>, R.S.C. 1985, c. I-21.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Images in Judgments by Simon Fodden</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/images-in-judgments/comment-page-1/#comment-795192</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Fodden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 01:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, I'm sorry I had forgotten that you did indeed do a column on this: http://www.slaw.ca/2010/05/25/illustrated-judgments/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, I&#039;m sorry I had forgotten that you did indeed do a column on this: <a href="http://www.slaw.ca/2010/05/25/illustrated-judgments/">http://www.slaw.ca/2010/05/25/illustrated-judgments/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Images in Judgments by Daniel Poulin</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/images-in-judgments/comment-page-1/#comment-795189</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Poulin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 00:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of years ago, I posted a couple of examples of illustrated judgments on Slaw. Last year, I prepared a short paper on the topic. For those interested, the paper can be found at http://www.hklii.hk/conference/paper/2D3.pdf. The paper gives some information about the growth of the phenomenon in Canada in the recent years.

Daniel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of years ago, I posted a couple of examples of illustrated judgments on Slaw. Last year, I prepared a short paper on the topic. For those interested, the paper can be found at <a href="http://www.hklii.hk/conference/paper/2D3.pdf">http://www.hklii.hk/conference/paper/2D3.pdf</a>. The paper gives some information about the growth of the phenomenon in Canada in the recent years.</p>
<p>Daniel.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fillip: Randomness by John G</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/18/the-friday-fillip-randomness/comment-page-1/#comment-795181</link>
		<dc:creator>John G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 15:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been my consistent impression over the years that the Solitaire game that comes with Windows, the one you illustrate, makes itself harder as you get better at it. In other words the numbers are not entirely random. The game is fixed, a bit, no doubt to make it interesting.

The same is true in the Hearts game. Once you've won a couple, suddenly you're not getting the good cards any more, and your most inconvenient opponent is.

I wish the Solitaire game had a 'replay the same deal' option. With a real deck, one can turn over the alternative to the card played, and see what might have happened. No backing up or replaying on the computer. I can understand no backing up, but a replay would occasionally be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been my consistent impression over the years that the Solitaire game that comes with Windows, the one you illustrate, makes itself harder as you get better at it. In other words the numbers are not entirely random. The game is fixed, a bit, no doubt to make it interesting.</p>
<p>The same is true in the Hearts game. Once you&#039;ve won a couple, suddenly you&#039;re not getting the good cards any more, and your most inconvenient opponent is.</p>
<p>I wish the Solitaire game had a &#039;replay the same deal&#039; option. With a real deck, one can turn over the alternative to the card played, and see what might have happened. No backing up or replaying on the computer. I can understand no backing up, but a replay would occasionally be fun.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shoes and Dominoes by Kim Nayyer</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/18/shoes-and-dominoes/comment-page-1/#comment-795159</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Nayyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 17:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice summary Mark. The points you note are apt: though fair dealing is still somewhat up in the air, we do have some comfort already, we pay for user rights via some separate licences, and a long list of publishers' material is &lt;a href="http://www.accesscopyright.ca/media/1771/access_copyright_exclusions_list.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;excluded from Access Copyright's coverage&lt;/a&gt;. Calgary also notes Bill C-11 might become law by June 22, before the June 30 deadline for signing the licence itself.

Might I also add that, though litigation risk avoidance is obviously the goal, justification for its cost is less evident. The cost of the model licence - which runs to the end of 2015 - will vary with the size of the campus, but will it be worth the cost of any potential litigation for copyright violation? And what is the value of an updated precedent on fair dealing in education?

UBC's statement is an interesting read. On the flipside, the &lt;a href="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/comments.php?api_key=180965981913707&amp;channel_url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.ak.facebook.com%2Fconnect%2Fxd_arbiter.php%3Fversion%3D6%23cb%3Df110a78a14e351a%26origin%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fubyssey.ca%252Ff40825bfba7aba%26domain%3Dubyssey.ca%26relation%3Dparent.parent&amp;href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fplugins%2Fcomments_v1.php%3Fapp_id%3D180965981913707%26xid%3D_post31589%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fubyssey.ca%252Fnews%252Faccess-copyright-dropped567%252F&amp;locale=en_US&amp;migrated=1&amp;numposts=0&amp;publish_feed=false&amp;sdk=joey&amp;title=UBC%20opts%20out%20of%20Access%20Copyright%20agreement%20%7C%20The%20Ubyssey&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fubyssey.ca%2Fnews%2Faccess-copyright-dropped567%2F&amp;width=700&amp;xid=_post31589#" rel="nofollow"&gt;student comment posted May 15&lt;/a&gt; is also an interesting read...

It is worth noting, also, that not all universities will be passing on the costs to the students - directly, anyway. Manitoba makes this clear in &lt;a href="http://umanitoba.ca/admin/vp_admin/ofp/copyright/access_copyright_notice.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;its statement&lt;/a&gt;.

As those interested in this issue might know, Prof. Ariel Katz has been inducting the various dominoes into &lt;a href="http://arielkatz.org/archives/1803" rel="nofollow"&gt;his Halls of Fame and Shame&lt;/a&gt;.

Prof. Katz's post shows a few dominoes falling in the other direction:  U of Winnipeg recently joined UBC and Athabasca U, with strong words from President Axworthy, &lt;a href="http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/u-of-w-rejects--copyright-deal-as-money-grab-152135325.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;who called it a "cash grab."
&lt;/a&gt;
The University of &lt;a href="http://web4.uwindsor.ca/units/leddy/leddy.nsf/CopyrightUpdateMay2012!OpenForm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Windsor confirmed yesterday&lt;/a&gt; it also will continue to operate without Access Copyright. Windsor published &lt;a href="http://web4.uwindsor.ca/units/leddy/leddy.nsf/Copyright!OpenForm" rel="nofollow"&gt;copyright and fair dealing guidelines&lt;/a&gt; and operates its own limited &lt;a href="http://web4.uwindsor.ca/units/leddy/leddy.nsf/CopyrightUpdateMay2012!OpenForm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Copyright Clearance Service&lt;/a&gt; to assist with rights assurances and clearance.

Once the first two dominoes fell, it seemed the other universities would shy away from standing alone to face possible litigation. Clearly, that foreseen eventuality is not reality. There seems to be some security in numbers now among those who chose to turn away now from Access Copyright or, like Calgary and Memorial, signed the letter of intent but are evaluating their options before deciding whether to sign the actual licence, by June 30.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice summary Mark. The points you note are apt: though fair dealing is still somewhat up in the air, we do have some comfort already, we pay for user rights via some separate licences, and a long list of publishers&#039; material is <a href="http://www.accesscopyright.ca/media/1771/access_copyright_exclusions_list.pdf">excluded from Access Copyright&#039;s coverage</a>. Calgary also notes Bill C-11 might become law by June 22, before the June 30 deadline for signing the licence itself.</p>
<p>Might I also add that, though litigation risk avoidance is obviously the goal, justification for its cost is less evident. The cost of the model licence &#8211; which runs to the end of 2015 &#8211; will vary with the size of the campus, but will it be worth the cost of any potential litigation for copyright violation? And what is the value of an updated precedent on fair dealing in education?</p>
<p>UBC&#039;s statement is an interesting read. On the flipside, the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/comments.php?api_key=180965981913707&amp;channel_url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.ak.facebook.com%2Fconnect%2Fxd_arbiter.php%3Fversion%3D6%23cb%3Df110a78a14e351a%26origin%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fubyssey.ca%252Ff40825bfba7aba%26domain%3Dubyssey.ca%26relation%3Dparent.parent&amp;href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fplugins%2Fcomments_v1.php%3Fapp_id%3D180965981913707%26xid%3D_post31589%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fubyssey.ca%252Fnews%252Faccess-copyright-dropped567%252F&amp;locale=en_US&amp;migrated=1&amp;numposts=0&amp;publish_feed=false&amp;sdk=joey&amp;title=UBC%20opts%20out%20of%20Access%20Copyright%20agreement%20%7C%20The%20Ubyssey&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fubyssey.ca%2Fnews%2Faccess-copyright-dropped567%2F&amp;width=700&amp;xid=_post31589#">student comment posted May 15</a> is also an interesting read&#8230;</p>
<p>It is worth noting, also, that not all universities will be passing on the costs to the students &#8211; directly, anyway. Manitoba makes this clear in <a href="http://umanitoba.ca/admin/vp_admin/ofp/copyright/access_copyright_notice.html">its statement</a>.</p>
<p>As those interested in this issue might know, Prof. Ariel Katz has been inducting the various dominoes into <a href="http://arielkatz.org/archives/1803">his Halls of Fame and Shame</a>.</p>
<p>Prof. Katz&#039;s post shows a few dominoes falling in the other direction:  U of Winnipeg recently joined UBC and Athabasca U, with strong words from President Axworthy, <a href="http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/u-of-w-rejects--copyright-deal-as-money-grab-152135325.html">who called it a &#034;cash grab.&#034;<br />
</a><br />
The University of <a href="http://web4.uwindsor.ca/units/leddy/leddy.nsf/CopyrightUpdateMay2012!OpenForm">Windsor confirmed yesterday</a> it also will continue to operate without Access Copyright. Windsor published <a href="http://web4.uwindsor.ca/units/leddy/leddy.nsf/Copyright!OpenForm">copyright and fair dealing guidelines</a> and operates its own limited <a href="http://web4.uwindsor.ca/units/leddy/leddy.nsf/CopyrightUpdateMay2012!OpenForm">Copyright Clearance Service</a> to assist with rights assurances and clearance.</p>
<p>Once the first two dominoes fell, it seemed the other universities would shy away from standing alone to face possible litigation. Clearly, that foreseen eventuality is not reality. There seems to be some security in numbers now among those who chose to turn away now from Access Copyright or, like Calgary and Memorial, signed the letter of intent but are evaluating their options before deciding whether to sign the actual licence, by June 30.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mandated or Mandatory Pro Bono by Adam Dodek</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/03/mandated-or-mandatory-pro-bono/comment-page-1/#comment-795157</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Dodek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 16:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Your comments are thoughtful as always.  I know of no other profession that makes claims to both act and regulate in the public interest as strongly as we do in the legal profession.  There are many large gaps between the rhetoric of lawyering and the reality: see the Barrister's Oath in Ontario for example.  Judges could order lawyers appearing before them to do pro bono.  I agree they likely could not order other lawyers.  There would be an obvious inequality in this.  I would like to see the profession start with aspirational ethics on pro bono, at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Your comments are thoughtful as always.  I know of no other profession that makes claims to both act and regulate in the public interest as strongly as we do in the legal profession.  There are many large gaps between the rhetoric of lawyering and the reality: see the Barrister&#039;s Oath in Ontario for example.  Judges could order lawyers appearing before them to do pro bono.  I agree they likely could not order other lawyers.  There would be an obvious inequality in this.  I would like to see the profession start with aspirational ethics on pro bono, at least.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What's Hot on CanLII This Week by Gary P. Rodrigues</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/15/whats-hot-on-canlii-this-week-22/comment-page-1/#comment-795152</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary P. Rodrigues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 14:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela Swan has raised an important issue relating to the use of the parties names in reported decisions. 

Years ago, I read a case in the Reports of Family Law in which the domestic problems of a former classmate were published for everyone to read, including their children. It all seemed so unnecessary. For that reason, I became  proponent of the use of initials in family law cases.

Early efforts by the legal publishers to deal with this issue were rendered ineffective with the arrival of comprehensive case citators and the publication of full text cases. The result was that the effort by some publishers to protect the innocent was negated by the courts and by other publishers who used the names of the parties.

I believe that the issue is one that could be easily addressed by the courts who have the option of releasing the decisions without using the parties names, as happens in Quebec.

I agree with Angela that it is time for the judiciary to act responsibly in these matters rather than indulge themselves at the expense of families who are made the objects of ridicule as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela Swan has raised an important issue relating to the use of the parties names in reported decisions. </p>
<p>Years ago, I read a case in the Reports of Family Law in which the domestic problems of a former classmate were published for everyone to read, including their children. It all seemed so unnecessary. For that reason, I became  proponent of the use of initials in family law cases.</p>
<p>Early efforts by the legal publishers to deal with this issue were rendered ineffective with the arrival of comprehensive case citators and the publication of full text cases. The result was that the effort by some publishers to protect the innocent was negated by the courts and by other publishers who used the names of the parties.</p>
<p>I believe that the issue is one that could be easily addressed by the courts who have the option of releasing the decisions without using the parties names, as happens in Quebec.</p>
<p>I agree with Angela that it is time for the judiciary to act responsibly in these matters rather than indulge themselves at the expense of families who are made the objects of ridicule as a result.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mandated or Mandatory Pro Bono by Robert Janes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Janes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 14:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My core fear is that this is part of a larger trend to substitute charity for the proper provision of publicly funded essential services.  Here is my comment on this as this is a matter that will undoubtedly have an adverse effect on aboriginal people given their disproportionate representation in the criminal justice system.  &lt;a href="http://jfklaw.blogspot.ca/2012/05/pro-bono-charity-is-no-substitute-for.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My core fear is that this is part of a larger trend to substitute charity for the proper provision of publicly funded essential services.  Here is my comment on this as this is a matter that will undoubtedly have an adverse effect on aboriginal people given their disproportionate representation in the criminal justice system.  <a href="http://jfklaw.blogspot.ca/2012/05/pro-bono-charity-is-no-substitute-for.html"></a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Director of Innovation for Law Firms? by George Beaton</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/director-of-innovation-for-law-firms/comment-page-1/#comment-795141</link>
		<dc:creator>George Beaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 04:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree innovation is the only source of sustainable competitive advantage. Real question is can conventionally structured firms be genuinely innovative?  Readers may find my recent post on this useful: http://www.beatoncapital.com/2012/05/why-innovation-is-the-source-of-all-competitive-advantage/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree innovation is the only source of sustainable competitive advantage. Real question is can conventionally structured firms be genuinely innovative?  Readers may find my recent post on this useful: <a href="http://www.beatoncapital.com/2012/05/why-innovation-is-the-source-of-all-competitive-advantage/">http://www.beatoncapital.com/2012/05/why-innovation-is-the-source-of-all-competitive-advantage/</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Crime and Cultural Property by Bonnie Czegledi</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/crime-and-cultural-property/comment-page-1/#comment-795136</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Czegledi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 20:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Symposium on Criminality in the Art and Cultural Property World, held June 15-16 2012 has recently received CPD Accreditation from the LSUC. We hope to see many Slaw readers there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Symposium on Criminality in the Art and Cultural Property World, held June 15-16 2012 has recently received CPD Accreditation from the LSUC. We hope to see many Slaw readers there!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The New Mega-Journal by Nate Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/18/the-new-mega-journal/comment-page-1/#comment-795134</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 19:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
Your mention of the "not-yet, if-ever" feature of micro-level commenting brings to mind the recent move by CLEBC to open up similar commenting features in their online Practice Manuals. Has anyone felt that this featurs is helpful in the CLE context?
Would CanLII ever consider developing and implementing such a feature where thoughtful legal readers could discuss their thoughts on particular cases?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.<br />
Your mention of the &#034;not-yet, if-ever&#034; feature of micro-level commenting brings to mind the recent move by CLEBC to open up similar commenting features in their online Practice Manuals. Has anyone felt that this featurs is helpful in the CLE context?<br />
Would CanLII ever consider developing and implementing such a feature where thoughtful legal readers could discuss their thoughts on particular cases?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Court Nullifies 2011 Federal Election Results in Etobicoke Centre by David Cheifetz</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/18/court-nullifies-2011-federal-election-results-in-etobicoke-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-795133</link>
		<dc:creator>David Cheifetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 19:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justice Lederer at para. 159: "The fact of this application demonstrates that our electoral process has the necessary checks and that they can work even where the plurality is as small as 26 votes and the number of impugned ballots is 79.There are places in the world that would wonder that such a result was possible."


Then there's the political spin. Draw your own conclusions.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/05/18/pol-court-throws-out-etobicoke-centre-election-wrzesnewskyj.html

Conservative Party spokesman Fred Delorey said they're disappointed with the court decision after 52,000 people in Etobicoke Centre "followed the rules, cast their ballots and today had their democratic decision thrown into doubt."

[defeated Liberal candidate] Wrzesnewskyj told CBC News that the riding needs a by-election to restore democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justice Lederer at para. 159: &#034;The fact of this application demonstrates that our electoral process has the necessary checks and that they can work even where the plurality is as small as 26 votes and the number of impugned ballots is 79.There are places in the world that would wonder that such a result was possible.&#034;</p>
<p>Then there&#039;s the political spin. Draw your own conclusions.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/05/18/pol-court-throws-out-etobicoke-centre-election-wrzesnewskyj.html">http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/05/18/pol-court-throws-out-etobicoke-centre-election-wrzesnewskyj.html</a></p>
<p>Conservative Party spokesman Fred Delorey said they&#039;re disappointed with the court decision after 52,000 people in Etobicoke Centre &#034;followed the rules, cast their ballots and today had their democratic decision thrown into doubt.&#034;</p>
<p>[defeated Liberal candidate] Wrzesnewskyj told CBC News that the riding needs a by-election to restore democracy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Real Looking Scams Require Lawyers to Be Warier Than Ever by Victoria Lehman</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2011/09/12/38644/comment-page-1/#comment-795126</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria Lehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan!  Recently received an actual telephone call, likely from a potential "fraudster", calling herself "****" [note: name removed], saying that she was calling from Los Angeles, was three hours behind, etc. etc., wanted to talk about a matter dealing with “trusts”, and was looking for legal assistance.  She gave me an L.A. phone number “626-xxx-xxxx”  BUT when I checked my Voicemail as to date, time and phone number, the number she had actually called from was LOCAL “204-yyy-yyyy”. 

This seems to be a bit more sophisticated version of the email trust-money scams, where here, they have someone actually make personal voice contact,  and then “pass off” to someone in another jurisdiction, where the scam action is really generated and centered. And since she had a rather heavy Asian accent, what would I know from thereafter, speaking to another woman with a heavy Asian accent at the number in LA to which I would be directed?!

There may be a real concerted effort here to scam our accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan!  Recently received an actual telephone call, likely from a potential &#034;fraudster&#034;, calling herself &#034;****&#034; [note: name removed], saying that she was calling from Los Angeles, was three hours behind, etc. etc., wanted to talk about a matter dealing with “trusts”, and was looking for legal assistance.  She gave me an L.A. phone number “626-xxx-xxxx”  BUT when I checked my Voicemail as to date, time and phone number, the number she had actually called from was LOCAL “204-yyy-yyyy”. </p>
<p>This seems to be a bit more sophisticated version of the email trust-money scams, where here, they have someone actually make personal voice contact,  and then “pass off” to someone in another jurisdiction, where the scam action is really generated and centered. And since she had a rather heavy Asian accent, what would I know from thereafter, speaking to another woman with a heavy Asian accent at the number in LA to which I would be directed?!</p>
<p>There may be a real concerted effort here to scam our accounts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Supreme Court Brochure by Simon Fodden</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/18/supreme-court-brochure/comment-page-1/#comment-795117</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Fodden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 15:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great unconscious sense of timing I have. Thanks, Omar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great unconscious sense of timing I have. Thanks, Omar!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Supreme Court Brochure by Omar Ha-Redeye</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/18/supreme-court-brochure/comment-page-1/#comment-795116</link>
		<dc:creator>Omar Ha-Redeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 15:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as new as this brochure is, it is soon going to be out of date.  A &lt;a href="http://scc.lexum.org/en/news_release/2012/12-05-18/12-05-18.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;press release &lt;/a&gt;this morning:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The Right Honourable Beverley McLachlin, Chief Justice of Canada, announced today that Justice Marie Deschamps has written to the Minister of Justice, the Honourable Robert Nicholson, to inform him that she will retire from the Supreme Court of Canada.  Justice Deschamps’s retirement will be effective August 7, 2012. 

“Justice Deschamps has made a very significant contribution to the Supreme Court and, more broadly, to the administration of justice in Canada.  We will miss her wisdom, intelligence, keen wit and boundless energy.  She has been a wonderful colleague and will always be a good friend”, said Chief Justice McLachlin.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as new as this brochure is, it is soon going to be out of date.  A <a href="http://scc.lexum.org/en/news_release/2012/12-05-18/12-05-18.html">press release </a>this morning:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Right Honourable Beverley McLachlin, Chief Justice of Canada, announced today that Justice Marie Deschamps has written to the Minister of Justice, the Honourable Robert Nicholson, to inform him that she will retire from the Supreme Court of Canada.  Justice Deschamps’s retirement will be effective August 7, 2012. </p>
<p>“Justice Deschamps has made a very significant contribution to the Supreme Court and, more broadly, to the administration of justice in Canada.  We will miss her wisdom, intelligence, keen wit and boundless energy.  She has been a wonderful colleague and will always be a good friend”, said Chief Justice McLachlin.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on Images in Judgments by Lyonette Louis-Jacques</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/images-in-judgments/comment-page-1/#comment-795112</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyonette Louis-Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 14:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this topic!  :-)  Here's another one (hat tip to the CanLII folks who gave me the heads-up on this wonderful use of images in judgments):

Robinson c. Films Cinar inc., 2009 QCCS 3793 (CanLII)
http://canlii.ca/fr/qc/qccs/doc/2009/2009qccs3793/2009qccs3793.html
(the images start before paragraph 506/footnote 336; I can see the similarities in the images used for Les Aventures de Robinson Curiosité and Robinson Sucroë, but love how they are different)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this topic!  :-)  Here&#039;s another one (hat tip to the CanLII folks who gave me the heads-up on this wonderful use of images in judgments):</p>
<p>Robinson c. Films Cinar inc., 2009 QCCS 3793 (CanLII)<br />
<a href="http://canlii.ca/fr/qc/qccs/doc/2009/2009qccs3793/2009qccs3793.html">http://canlii.ca/fr/qc/qccs/doc/2009/2009qccs3793/2009qccs3793.html</a><br />
(the images start before paragraph 506/footnote 336; I can see the similarities in the images used for Les Aventures de Robinson Curiosité and Robinson Sucroë, but love how they are different)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tablets Tablets Everywhere by David Collier-Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/tablets-tablets-everywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-795107</link>
		<dc:creator>David Collier-Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 12:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tablet, IMHO, is a realization of the little pads crew members handed each other on the original Star Trek.  It's a huge step forward, and as the prices fall, I expect to see people with as many pads "open" on their desks as books.

However, it's short on keyboards.  They vary from flimsy to virtual to clunky.  The bets of the lot may be the blackberry, and that's a thumb-keyboard.

I currently use the smallest netbook that has a comfortable keyboard (an Acer Aspire), because I write almost as much as I read.  

In the security sphere, my connection to the IT network is rdesktop (sometimes also called RDP), so when necessary I have the same working experience as someone chained to a desktop.  I also have all my local computing power, at the cost of having to run the (U.S.) NSA's secure version of Linux, so a random thief/hacker doesn't walk off with more than the hardware (;-))

I think I can predict a continuing life for the laptop, in part for a larger screen and in part for a keyboard I can use all day.  Along with a plethora of pads!

--dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tablet, IMHO, is a realization of the little pads crew members handed each other on the original Star Trek.  It&#039;s a huge step forward, and as the prices fall, I expect to see people with as many pads &#034;open&#034; on their desks as books.</p>
<p>However, it&#039;s short on keyboards.  They vary from flimsy to virtual to clunky.  The bets of the lot may be the blackberry, and that&#039;s a thumb-keyboard.</p>
<p>I currently use the smallest netbook that has a comfortable keyboard (an Acer Aspire), because I write almost as much as I read.  </p>
<p>In the security sphere, my connection to the IT network is rdesktop (sometimes also called RDP), so when necessary I have the same working experience as someone chained to a desktop.  I also have all my local computing power, at the cost of having to run the (U.S.) NSA&#039;s secure version of Linux, so a random thief/hacker doesn&#039;t walk off with more than the hardware (;-))</p>
<p>I think I can predict a continuing life for the laptop, in part for a larger screen and in part for a keyboard I can use all day.  Along with a plethora of pads!</p>
<p>&#8211;dave</p>
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		<title>Comment on Images in Judgments by Simon Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/images-in-judgments/comment-page-1/#comment-795087</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 01:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A former Oz Federal Court Chief Justice has evoked images of "cold porridge" when &lt;a href="http://bit.ly/JPJWIl" rel="nofollow"&gt;calling for&lt;/a&gt; 
judges to write summaries of their judgments in a journalistic style.  Maybe there is the opportunity for journalists, publishers, bloggers and law firm marketing departments to jazz up the more notable judgments including providing the missing images.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A former Oz Federal Court Chief Justice has evoked images of &#034;cold porridge&#034; when <a href="http://bit.ly/JPJWIl">calling for</a><br />
judges to write summaries of their judgments in a journalistic style.  Maybe there is the opportunity for journalists, publishers, bloggers and law firm marketing departments to jazz up the more notable judgments including providing the missing images.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kirpans in the Courts by Fritz Lunquist</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/16/kirpans-in-the-courts/comment-page-1/#comment-795082</link>
		<dc:creator>Fritz Lunquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 23:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All security is a matter of degree and judgment. There is no such thing as absolute security. Deciding whether a security measure is needed involves judging the seriousness of the threat, compared to the intrusiveness and cost of the measure to prevent the threat.

So for kirpans: is there a history of their being used for actual fighting or for threatening people, in public places such as courts, or in schools, in Canada? If not, why not figure out how they can be allowed? The principles of open public access to the courts, and of participation on juries, in this case appear to outweigh the need to combat the threat that the kirpan might be dangerous to anyone.

The same reasoning lay behind the decision of the SCC that kirpans should be allowed in Quebec schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All security is a matter of degree and judgment. There is no such thing as absolute security. Deciding whether a security measure is needed involves judging the seriousness of the threat, compared to the intrusiveness and cost of the measure to prevent the threat.</p>
<p>So for kirpans: is there a history of their being used for actual fighting or for threatening people, in public places such as courts, or in schools, in Canada? If not, why not figure out how they can be allowed? The principles of open public access to the courts, and of participation on juries, in this case appear to outweigh the need to combat the threat that the kirpan might be dangerous to anyone.</p>
<p>The same reasoning lay behind the decision of the SCC that kirpans should be allowed in Quebec schools.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Images in Judgments by Simon Chester</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/images-in-judgments/comment-page-1/#comment-795081</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 22:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is of course Chief Justice Sonny Nemetz's famous judgment in the infamous fly cartoon case, &lt;em&gt;Vander Zalm v. Times Publishers&lt;/em&gt;. This is one instance where the &lt;a href="www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcca/doc/1980/1980canlii389/1980canlii389.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;Canlii decision&lt;/a&gt; lacks the cartoon itself, which I recall was included in the conventional sources, (1980) 109 DLR (3d) 531 and [1980] 4 WWR 259. For those who may have got rid of their print law reports here is what the cartoon looked like:

&lt;img src="http://www.straight.com/files/imagecache/blog_teaser_main_image/images/wide/4304.jpg" alt="vander zalm" /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is of course Chief Justice Sonny Nemetz&#039;s famous judgment in the infamous fly cartoon case, <em>Vander Zalm v. Times Publishers</em>. This is one instance where the <a href="www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcca/doc/1980/1980canlii389/1980canlii389.pdf">Canlii decision</a> lacks the cartoon itself, which I recall was included in the conventional sources, (1980) 109 DLR (3d) 531 and [1980] 4 WWR 259. For those who may have got rid of their print law reports here is what the cartoon looked like:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.straight.com/files/imagecache/blog_teaser_main_image/images/wide/4304.jpg" alt="vander zalm" /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Connecting the Dots: Justice System Reform and Medical-Legal Partnerships by Yonit Fuhrmann</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/16/connecting-the-dots-justice-system-reform-and-medical-legal-partnerships/comment-page-1/#comment-795080</link>
		<dc:creator>Yonit Fuhrmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 20:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are really excited that BC is moving forward with this initiative.  Pro Bono Law Ontario has managed its own pediatric medical legal project in partnership with The Hospital for Sick Children (in Toronto) and law firms Torkin Manes and McMillan since 2009.  We have been able to serve over 1000 families with relatively low overhead.  More importantly, a recent evaluation found that (a) the model allowed us to serve a client base that had not previously turned to the legal system to address their problems (b) solved nearly 3/4 of all their legal problems and (c) made a positive impact on families' ability to care for their critically and chronically ill children.  Just as we were more than happy to share our findings with our BC counterparts, we are willing to share knowledge that supports the expansion of this project model throughout Canada.  We are pleased to say that we are launching our second office at the Children's Hospital in London, ON next week.

Yonit Fuhrmann, Deputy Director</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are really excited that BC is moving forward with this initiative.  Pro Bono Law Ontario has managed its own pediatric medical legal project in partnership with The Hospital for Sick Children (in Toronto) and law firms Torkin Manes and McMillan since 2009.  We have been able to serve over 1000 families with relatively low overhead.  More importantly, a recent evaluation found that (a) the model allowed us to serve a client base that had not previously turned to the legal system to address their problems (b) solved nearly 3/4 of all their legal problems and (c) made a positive impact on families&#039; ability to care for their critically and chronically ill children.  Just as we were more than happy to share our findings with our BC counterparts, we are willing to share knowledge that supports the expansion of this project model throughout Canada.  We are pleased to say that we are launching our second office at the Children&#039;s Hospital in London, ON next week.</p>
<p>Yonit Fuhrmann, Deputy Director</p>
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		<title>Comment on Images in Judgments by Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/images-in-judgments/comment-page-1/#comment-795078</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 18:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An early judge in the Northwest Territories commissioned a series of carvings based on cases that he adjudicated, mostly murders and a couple of what we today would call ‘assisted suicide’ cases. They are still on display from time to time. You can see them at this link:

http://www.nwtcourts.ca/Sissons/sissons.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An early judge in the Northwest Territories commissioned a series of carvings based on cases that he adjudicated, mostly murders and a couple of what we today would call ‘assisted suicide’ cases. They are still on display from time to time. You can see them at this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nwtcourts.ca/Sissons/sissons.htm">http://www.nwtcourts.ca/Sissons/sissons.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Images in Judgments by Michael M.</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/images-in-judgments/comment-page-1/#comment-795076</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 18:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just encountered a related issue last week. Reed v Town of Lincoln (1974) 6 OR (2d) 291 has a map attached to the print decision, but the map isn't included in any electronic version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just encountered a related issue last week. Reed v Town of Lincoln (1974) 6 OR (2d) 291 has a map attached to the print decision, but the map isn&#039;t included in any electronic version.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tablets Tablets Everywhere by Bruce Best</title>
		<link>http://www.slaw.ca/2012/05/17/tablets-tablets-everywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-795073</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 17:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with almost everything in the article, particularly that connectivity and virtualization are crucial for a tablet. 

Then I saw this:
&lt;blockquote&gt; (Until somebody comes in with a RIM Playbook or other oddball device).&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Up until that point, I actually expected you to say "The RIM Playbook is probably the best device currently on the market for lawyers".
I am not associated with RIM in any way, but I've been really impressed with the Playbook, and find it a great tool in my practice. 
 
First, the smartphone of choice for lawyers is overwhelmingly the Blackberry. That may change, of course (20 years ago, the word processor of choice for lawyers was overwhelmingly Wordperfect). 
The Playbook is designed to work along with a Blackberry, in ways other tablets cannot.

With respect to connectivity, the Playbook does not have built-in 3G/LTE connectivity, but it nonetheless has mobile connectivity. It can tether with any phone (Blackberry or other) that supports Bluetooth Dial Up Networking protocol. Depending on your phone's data plan (make sure to check it - some plans charge ridiculous fees for tethering, like $6/Mb), this may well save money, as you will only be paying the monthly fees to Bell/Rogers/Telus for your smartphone, not for your smartphone and 3G tablet.

With respect to virtualization, this is already built into the Playbook if you also have a Blackberry smartphone. The "Blackberry Bridge" is a special form of tethering that essentially allows you to use the Playbook as an extended screen for your Blackberry, so you can access emails, files, and your intranet on your Playbook, using your Blackberry's secure internet connection. If you take the tablet out of Bluetooth range from the Blackberry, the confidential emails, open documents, and the intranet browser will 'disappear' from the Playbook. Assuming your IT department has already set your Blackberry up to be secure, the Playbook will be secure. There is nothing more for the IT department to do. 

Though the Playbook was much maligned in the initial reviews when it was released in early 2011 (mostly because the software was not-quite-finished; most of the issues raised in old reviews have since been addressed), one thing that the reviews generally agreed on was that the Playbook had the best tablet-based browser on the market, and that it was the closest thing to a desktop browser available on any tablet, iPad included. That is hugely important if you are talking about running web-based apps.

I purchased a Playbook in January, and use it regularly in my practice. My office uses an intranet-only browser-based client management program. Using the Blackberry Bridge, I can log into the program securely from anywhere I have cell phone coverage, with full secure access to case data, documents and so forth. Our IT department did not have to do anything to allow this to work. 
We get faxes as PDF attachments via email. Though the text of a PDF fax is too small to read on a smartphone, a fax can easily be read on a tablet screen. 

Playbook also has support for reading and editing Microsoft Office documents, which again can be opened if received as email attachments. And such document stay on the Blackberry, so there are no additional security issues with the Playbook. I asked my IT department about using the Playbook when I got it, and the answer was they did not need to do anything, it would just work. It did. 

So, don't be so quick to dismiss the Playbook. It already does most of the great things your article says tablets should do. It probably will save your IT department headaches, not cause them, because it has the virtualization aspect already taken care of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with almost everything in the article, particularly that connectivity and virtualization are crucial for a tablet. </p>
<p>Then I saw this:</p>
<blockquote><p> (Until somebody comes in with a RIM Playbook or other oddball device).</p></blockquote>
<p>Up until that point, I actually expected you to say &#034;The RIM Playbook is probably the best device currently on the market for lawyers&#034;.<br />
I am not associated with RIM in any way, but I&#039;ve been really impressed with the Playbook, and find it a great tool in my practice. </p>
<p>First, the smartphone of choice for lawyers is overwhelmingly the Blackberry. That may change, of course (20 years ago, the word processor of choice for lawyers was overwhelmingly Wordperfect).<br />
The Playbook is designed to work along with a Blackberry, in ways other tablets cannot.</p>
<p>With respect to connectivity, the Playbook does not have built-in 3G/LTE connectivity, but it nonetheless has mobile connectivity. It can tether with any phone (Blackberry or other) that supports Bluetooth Dial Up Networking protocol. Depending on your phone&#039;s data plan (make sure to check it &#8211; some plans charge ridiculous fees for tethering, like $6/Mb), this may well save money, as you will only be paying the monthly fees to Bell/Rogers/Telus for your smartphone, not for your smartphone and 3G tablet.</p>
<p>With respect to virtualization, this is already built into the Playbook if you also have a Blackberry smartphone. The &#034;Blackberry Bridge&#034; is a special form of tethering that essentially allows you to use the Playbook as an extended screen for your Blackberry, so you can access emails, files, and your intranet on your Playbook, using your Blackberry&#039;s secure internet connection. If you take the tablet out of Bluetooth range from the Blackberry, the confidential emails, open documents, and the intranet browser will &#039;disappear&#039; from the Playbook. Assuming your IT department has already set your Blackberry up to be secure, the Playbook will be secure. There is nothing more for the IT department to do. </p>
<p>Though the Playbook was much maligned in the initial reviews when it was released in early 2011 (mostly because the software was not-quite-finished; most of the issues raised in old reviews have since been addressed), one thing that the reviews generally agreed on was that the Playbook had the best tablet-based browser on the market, and that it was the closest thing to a desktop browser available on any tablet, iPad included. That is hugely important if you are talking about running web-based apps.</p>
<p>I purchased a Playbook in January, and use it regularly in my practice. My office uses an intranet-only browser-based client management program. Using the Blackberry Bridge, I can log into the program securely from anywhere I have cell phone coverage, with full secure access to case data, documents and so forth. Our IT department did not have to do anything to allow this to work.<br />
We get faxes as PDF attachments via email. Though the text of a PDF fax is too small to read on a smartphone, a fax can easily be read on a tablet screen. </p>
<p>Playbook also has support for reading and editing Microsoft Office documents, which again can be opened if received as email attachments. And such document stay on the Blackberry, so there are no additional security issues with the Playbook. I asked my IT department about using the Playbook when I got it, and the answer was they did not need to do anything, it would just work. It did. </p>
<p>So, don&#039;t be so quick to dismiss the Playbook. It already does most of the great things your article says tablets should do. It probably will save your IT department headaches, not cause them, because it has the virtualization aspect already taken care of.</p>
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