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		<dc:creator>Dan Allen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[recent events have me thinking about the topic of homosexuality. Recently an active NBA player, Jason Collins, came out and told the world that he is gay. This is the first time an active player in any of the major American sports (NBA, NFL, NHL, and MLB) has done this, so it has caused a [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>recent events have me thinking about the topic of homosexuality. Recently <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazine/news/20130429/jason-collins-gay-nba-player/" target="_blank">an active NBA player, Jason Collins, came out</a> and told the world that he is gay. This is the first time an active player in any of the major American sports (NBA, NFL, NHL, and MLB) has done this, so it has caused a significant amount of discussion. An analyst at ESPN, <a href="http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-espn-chris-broussard-sparks-uproar-after-jason-collins-remarks-20130429,0,1157118.story" target="_blank">Chris Broussard, stated the following</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m a Christian. I don&#8217;t agree with homosexuality. I think it&#8217;s a sin, as I think all sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman is. If you&#8217;re openly living in unrepentant sin &#8230; that&#8217;s walking in open rebellion to God and to Jesus Christ.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is what got me thinking about this subject. I have, for the most part, not had to nail down my opinions on the subject of homosexuality because I&#8217;m not gay and I don&#8217;t have any close friends who are gay, so it hasn&#8217;t really mattered to me. I did vote in favor of same sex marriage here in Maine, but that had more to do with me being a Libertarian than it did with my views of the moral issue of homosexuality, but now, with all the discussion going around and taking up sports radio airwaves, I have been somewhat forced into thinking about it.</p>
<p>What I walk away with is confusion. Honestly, this is something that is difficult for my faith, because, as I will explain, I come to two contradictory conclusions on the topic.</p>
<p>First of all, I think the Bible, even in the New Testament, makes it pretty clear that homosexuality is sinful. When Romans 1 talks about how we, as the human race, have generally walked away from the truth, it includes a somewhat substantial section on homosexuality exemplifying this. So, do I think homosexuality is a sin? Yes, I guess I have to, since I believe the Bible.</p>
<p>Second of all, I&#8217;ve kind of had this impression that the &#8220;Law&#8221; of the New Testament is based on love. Like Jesus explains, if you love God and love others more than yourself, you will fulfill the Law. That seems very consistent with Jesus&#8217; life and ministry. He saves his most aggressive criticisms for those who use God for their own gain, and for those who oppress others. Additionally if you look at any other action or feeling that is considered a sin, it has a victim of sorts. Theft, murder, slander all have victims, all have the sinner putting himself before others. There are other sins where God is the &#8220;victim&#8221; so to speak. Fear represents a lack of trust in God, worshiping idols and false gods takes credit from the true Creator. I know that this is all kind of half-baked, but I hope you get the idea of what I&#8217;m saying.</p>
<p>So, where I can fit all &#8220;sin&#8221; into this framework, I cannot fit homosexuality into it, and that bothers me. I know, it doesn&#8217;t matter if it makes sense to me, and so on and so forth, but it does matter to me, so anyone who wants to say that I have no right to question, can stick a sock in it. I don&#8217;t really care about that.</p>
<p>Say that two men or women were to enter into a monogamous committed relationship. We won&#8217;t call it marriage because that&#8217;ll just open a whole can of worms, but basically that is what I&#8217;m talking about. Can those two people love each other? Put each other ahead of themselves? Be selfless with one another? I think they can. I see homosexuality as victimless. I guess you could make the case that God is the victim because it contradicts the way he created us, but he also created us to pair up, and we know that he allows some people to be single, according to Paul. Most other arguments that I can come up with are circular: God is the victim because he said not to do it. See, this doesn&#8217;t answer the question of why. Don&#8217;t do it, because don&#8217;t do it? Seems a little silly.</p>
<p>So, do I think homosexuality is a sin? Yes. Do I think that it makes sense that it is a sin? No. Should this matter to me? I don&#8217;t know, but it does.</p>
<p>I would be interested to hear if anyone has anything worthwhile to say on the subject.</p>
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		<title>jimmy carter hates god</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Allen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I was directed to an interesting article by Jimmy Carter that covers a topic that I will fully admit I have very little knowledge on: biblical gender roles. The person who pointed it out to me mentioned that she would be interested in hearing my opinion, that is why I am giving it here. [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I was directed to <a href="http://www.womenspress-slo.org/?p=11440" target="_blank">an interesting article by Jimmy Carter</a> that covers a topic that I will fully admit I have very little knowledge on: biblical gender roles. The person who pointed it out to me mentioned that she would be interested in hearing my opinion, that is why I am giving it here. I will admit that it is an ignorant and not fully developed opinion, but that has never stopped me from sharing any of my other opinions on this blog, so screw it, here goes!</p>
<p>First of all, Jimmy (am I allowed to call him that?) explains that he left the SBC because of their views regarding women. The views that he takes issue with are &#8220;<em>that Eve was created second to Adam and was responsible for original sin, ordained that women must be “subservient” to their husbands and prohibited from serving as deacons, pastors or chaplains in the military service.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>He goes on to explain that these views are not specific to the SBC, or  even to Christianity, but that they are present across many religions throughout history.</p>
<p>Let me state a few things before going into my thoughts on all that. First, I am a Christian. I believe the Bible is true. Second, there are many many things in which I disagree with the mainstream of modern Christianity (feel free to peruse the blog a bit for an extended set of examples). Third, and as I previously stated, gender roles are not something that I have spent a significant amount of time studying or thinking about.</p>
<p>Having said all that, I think that there are some great points to what the article states. I think that many terrible things have been, and currently are being done, to women in the name of religion. I think that there are many underlying prejudices that drive the way modern American men and women interact, many of which can be tied to traditional Christian and religious views. I also think that it is tragic that Christians are not at the forefront of promoting equality for all people.</p>
<p>A couple things that I would point out that are particularly important are that religion is used to push the agenda of certain people and groups, and that interpretation of ancient documents, such as the Christian Scriptures, can easily be manipulated, both intentionally and unintentionally, to promote the views of the person doing the interpreting. I think the article hits on a lot of that, but I also worry that at points the roles are flipped around, implying that men mistreat and subjugate women because of their religious views, rather than stating that men build religious views to justify their mistreatment of women.</p>
<p>This has happened for all of human history. People have used various methods to force others to do what they want them to do. A big army helps make people do what you want, but if you don&#8217;t have that, the keys to Heaven and Hell can come in pretty handy as well. If you can get both, well, now you&#8217;re in a good spot. Fortunately this isn&#8217;t the Dark Ages. People know how to read. The Bible is translated into many languages and accessible to anybody who is interested in picking it up. For this reason, there is little reason to live under the thumb of religious leaders anymore. They try to cling to their last few shreds of authority by misusing Scripture to imply that they have some superiority over other believers, but more and more people are figuring out that this is a bunch of bullshit.</p>
<p>As far as women pastors and elders and deacons and all that. I don&#8217;t think women should hold these offices. I don&#8217;t think men should hold these offices. I don&#8217;t think these offices should exist, at least not in the way that we understand them today. God uses people to teach each other, I see no reason that women can&#8217;t do that teaching. See, we want to think that teaching is all about sermons and Bible studies and seminary and whatever. Teaching is about life, the lessons learned through observing one another. Teachers are those who demonstrate what they believe. So, if we say women are not to teach, are we to say that women should not demonstrate what they believe? That is nonsense. God also uses people to serve each other. Women should certainly serve men. And, men should serve women. Women should serve women, and men should serve men. Serving each other is the demonstration of love toward each other. We should all be serving others.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to get into the details of the role of men and women in marriage or any of that silly Original Sin debate. The bottom line, as I see it, is that any time Christianity, the Bible, or any other religion or holy book, is used to suppress, manipulate, subjugate, or oppress others in any way is not only an offense to those being oppressed, but an offense to the book, religion, or god which is being distorted to promote the oppressor&#8217;s agenda.</p>
<p>Particularly as this relates to Christianity, it is in complete contradiction to the most important part of interacting with each other: to love and to serve the other above yourself. Instead you are using Christianity to force them to serve and obey you. When God commanded that we not take his name in vain, I believe this is what he meant. Do not use God&#8217;s name to promote your agenda. Do not attach God&#8217;s name to your hate and selfish ambitions. See, God is pretty big on people glorifying him. When his supposed &#8220;followers&#8221; use him to oppress others, they put a big skid mark on his name. If you do this kind of stuff, it may just piss him off, and I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a great idea.</p>
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		<title>christians are stealing marriage from god</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Allen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey stupid Christians, the more you fight the government&#8217;s desire to legalize same sex marriage the more you are destroying what you like to call the sanctity of marriage. I won&#8217;t even get into what terrible people you make yourselves out to be on Facebook and in picket lines and whatever. It is embarrassing as [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey stupid Christians, the more you fight the government&#8217;s desire to legalize same sex marriage the more you are destroying what you like to call <em>the sanctity of marriage</em>. I won&#8217;t even get into what terrible people you make yourselves out to be on Facebook and in picket lines and whatever. It is embarrassing as someone who tries to follow  Christ, but more generally as a fellow human being. Inequality signs? &#8220;Screw equality&#8221;? These are things I am seeing on Facebook. Terrible. But, like I said, I&#8217;m not going to get into that. The simple point I want to make is that, as Christians, you should know that the government has no say in marriage, that, if in fact, marriage is an institution created by God, that only God says what a legitimate marriage is. When you fight on Capitol Hill to preserve &#8220;traditional marriage&#8221; you are saying that the government  says what marriage is. You, not the homos or the stupid lefty Obama jock-sniffing politicians, are the one who is detroying the sanctity of marriage. Uncle Sam has no say in marriage, don&#8217;t give him the impression that he does. That is like arguing with a two-year-old about whether or not there is only one moon orbiting the earth and thinking that if the two-year-old wins the argument, somehow there will be multiple moons shaped like donuts and candy.</p>
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