Springfield Area Freethinkers

noreply@blogger.com (Janet) — Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:14:00 +0000

How to Write an Ungodly

Letter to the Editor

Janet L. Factor

We’ve all read them: letters to the editor that make us pound our heads on the table. Fanatical diatribes that claim America for conservative Christianity and demonize secularists. But have you done anything about them? Stop shouting at your innocent spouse. Instead, sharpen your quill and join the battle.

The Letters to the Editor section is the current equivalent of the Roman forum. In a modern community, this page is where people turn to learn what those around them are thinking. So speak up! Remember, though, few atheists have the luxury of being open about their views. Whatever you say will likely be taken as if you were speaking for every freethinker on the planet. Take great care how you represent us.

Avoid anger or mockery. To be accepted as a voice of reason, you must sound reasonable. This requires more than the use of logic. Be informative, show caring, and display a light touch if you can. A happily engaged audience repeats what it hears. Be, in your letters, the sort of person others would join for a long talk around the potbellied stove.

Easy to say. Harder to do. Exactly how does one go about turning out a letter to the editor that meets these conditions? Well, I’ve been writing them for several years, and I’ve gradually developed a process that seems to work most of the time. I’ll share it with you.

Before anything else, familiarize yourself with newspaper policies. Word limit? Adhere to it. (Even if there isn’t, aim for the average length of letters printed.) If they want your phone number, give it. The editor is God. Give him or her every respect, and he or she will be fair and even help you. Defy the rules, and your words will never see print, or worse, appear mangled.

Now, start with what prompted you to write. I normally write in response to another letter or an article. I go to the newspaper’s Web site and copy that text into a word-processing program. Then I format it so that it appears on the page surrounded by lots of white space. If you are writing about an issue, summarize it and do the same with your summary. Then print this out and sit down to begin.

I read the text using a highlighter to mark passages that particularly strike me and write my reactions in the white space around them. No point being eloquent at this stage; just capture thoughts and emotions as they come and clarify what is and isn’t significant. I often write questions that I later answer.

This stage is exploratory. Put it aside and come back to it a few times until nothing new occurs to you. It’s tempting to skip this step, but don’t. If you focus only on your initial reaction, you’ll miss other possibilities that may be more fruitful.

Next, analyze your notes. You’ll likely find that you have naturally begun to dissect the other side’s arguments and to construct several of your own. Evaluate these as possible approaches for your letter. Pick out one or two lines of attack that seem the strongest and most direct. It’s difficult to abandon one’s brainchildren but steel yourself to it. You want people to remember what you say and repeat it; simplicity serves that end.

How to choose? While a point with important implications deserves preference over a trivial triumph, strategy matters too. Between arguments of equal import, it’s best to choose one that lends itself to a commonsense approach. If your budding strategy can be summed up in a phrase like “putting the shoe on the other foot,” it will be more persuasive. If you can’t find an apt phrase, try to characterize your strategy in your own words. Knowing exactly what it is will enable you to better craft words to embody it.

Okay, take a break. At this point, sleep on it. But, like me, keep a notepad by the bed for fresh insights that occur in the wee hours.

Next day, start writing. It’s not a term paper. Write in your natural voice; imagine that you are speaking directly to another person. Starting with the salutation helps. Let the conversation flow. Generally you will find it leads in productive directions. Don’t worry about length now; the point is simply to get your ideas into words.

Once they’re there, check them over. Are they organized? Rearranging often improves effect. Then read the letter aloud to be sure it works. If you find you must alter your tone of voice in order to convey your meaning, rewrite; the reader can’t hear you.

Time to worry about word count. Compare what you have to what you must achieve. If you are over, now’s the time to make cuts. But even if you’re not, here’s one of the secrets to good writing: second draft equals first draft minus 10 percent. I always try to condense this much. It compels me to choose my words carefully. Trimming an argument, like sharpening an arrow, makes it more penetrating.

Think you’re done? Think again. Before you submit, get as much feedback as you can. Share your letter with every indulgent relative and friend you possess and ask for criticism. I post to freethinker e-mail lists. I always get useful comments. This step is absolutely vital if you are trying to use humor in your letter! Humor is the best weapon, but it is dangerous to handle, especially in print. Make certain it will work before you deploy it.

Take suggestions from your volunteer editors seriously. Incorporate those that work best. Then, do a final, scrupulous edit. Not every paper will do this for you; some delight in letting a writer look foolish. (Tip: reading backward makes typos leap out.) Scour your work for errors in grammar, punctuation, word use. If you’re in the least doubt, look it up. Give those who disagree no excuse to dismiss you.

Okay, you’re done! Send that masterpiece to the paper. And when it appears, be prepared to discover who among your acquaintances is a secret secularist. They are likely to approach you now.

Meantime, need inspiration? See below. Names have been changed to protect the guilty.

On Same-Sex Unions

This got the most responses and those most heartfelt; people called me practically weeping with gratitude. Also, the argument has general application.

I was struck by the tone of the letters in Tuesday’s issue promoting a ban on gay marriage. It seemed to me that all the authors suffered from the same misunderstanding. None of them seemed to appreciate the difference between religious law and secular law. To put it another way, they fail to appreciate the difference between a sin and a crime.

A sin is a metaphysical offense against a spiritual being usually called a god. A crime is an offense against other human beings, a harm that occurs purely in the physical world. Thomas Jefferson made the distinction clearly in a famous example: “But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say that there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” Sin may rightly be the concern of those who believe in a god, but it is not rightly the concern of the state.

Secular law is concerned only with crime. All the religious arguments in the world are irrelevant. Unless these people can point to an actual material harm done to them or others, there is no reason why forbidding gay people to marry should be any concern of the state.

If a god is up there, he may possibly be offended by gay marriage. But if he is up there, I think it unlikely that he really requires the state’s protection. Considering the amount of vitriol spilled over this topic, however, it’s obvious that gay couples do. Let’s give it to them. (255 words)

Religion in the Schools

Here you can see the process I talk about in the how-to actually unfolding on the page.

When I read the Oct. 31 letter by Chip Chucker advocating wholesale abandonment of the public school system by Christians in order to ensure that children develop a biblical world view (all the horror I needed for Halloween day!), I hardly knew where to begin in replying.

His assumption that all Christians share his brand of belief? His conviction that schools must be indoctrination centers for an ideology, rather than impartial purveyors of knowledge? His nostalgia for an era when the only acceptable belief was one that agreed with his? His blatant hypocrisy in advocating public funding of private religious schools, when he has just complained about taxes being used to support public schools? The mind reels.

However, upon reflection, I have decided that the heart of the issue lies not in these things, but in a larger question, one that seems never to have occurred to Mr. Chucker.

That question is this: if you truly find that the only way to ensure that your children adopt your beliefs is by totally controlling their access to information, that is, by deliberately keeping them in ignorance, isn’t that a pretty clear indication that what you believe is not true? (198 words)

Denigrating Atheists

This letter demonstrates how to disarm a rhetorical device, uses a commonsense argument as mentioned in the how-to, and deploys humor.

Wow! Hats off to Gabby Skinner. In his letter he deployed a nifty strategy for forestalling replies from those who sympathize with Robin Suregood [a fellow secularist]. Having characterized atheists as chronically angry, “That only proves how angry you are!” he’ll say.

It’s like ending an argument with your spouse by accusing him or her of always wanting the last word. What a neat rhetorical trap! But that doesn’t make it true.

Atheists must be angry, Skinner claims, because otherwise why would anyone take offense at being prayed for? That may sound sensible, but it’s misleading. Not all prayers are the same, nor are they all offered in the same manner.

Let’s put the shoe on the other foot. Skinner says Christians welcome all prayers, whether from Christians, Jews, or Muslims. But what about prayers from worshipers of gods that he doesn’t believe in? What about publicly offered prayers, not just for his welfare, but supposedly for the salvation of the doomed soul that inhabits his wretched self?

Imagine a Brahmin proclaiming here, “Hindus must pray for Gabby daily, for with all his bad karma he will surely suffer rebirth as the maggot of a carrion fly on the stinking corpse of a vulture. But perhaps, if the love of Krishna reforms his wicked heart, he may achieve human reincarnation once more.” (My apologies to the Hindu community, but I needed a vivid example.)

Mr. Skinner would surely take offense at this, and at the gall of those who offered to save him by praying to what he regards as fictional beings. An insult wrapped in ostentatious sanctimony is still an insult.

In short, if Mr. Skinner habitually addresses atheists in person the way he does in the paper, it’s no wonder he thinks they’re angry all the time! But, right now, I’ll bet a lot of them are laughing. (305 words)

When Faith Is Our Guide

This is a good, general-purpose argument, expressed in a way that appeals to people’s sense of civic duty.

Rich Roman (Sept. 18) says that it would be difficult or impossible to discuss the pressing issues of our day without considering what God wishes us to do. Mr. Roman has it backwards. It is exactly the fruitless search for divine instruction that makes debates about stem cells and similar issues so intractable.

No holy text directly addresses the dilemmas brought about by modern life. Those who seek scriptural guidance on these topics must fall back on the most general statements they find and stretch them to fit. This tends to result in sweeping judgments that depend solely on personal interpretation-that is, on faith. But faith is an individual guide. It cannot ethically be used to impose choices on others, or on society.

To justly frame a law requires the same kind of objective evidence that will stand up in a court of law. No man should ever be convicted on the basis of fervent belief in his guilt. It takes more than that. And it takes more than such belief to fuel civil discourse.

We do not all share the same faith. But we all live in the same world. If we lay aside belief and instead inquire into causes and consequences, if we examine costs and weigh benefits that can be seen by all, then we can reason together to a conclusion that could be defended, if need be, even at the last judgment of all. (238 words)

This letter attacks fundamentalist Christian doctrine from a novel perspective. Restating an argument in fresh terms is a useful strategy.

Let me see if I have this straight. In his letter Barry Rubble claims that the Christian version of the human condition goes like this:

From before birth we are contaminated with evil. Though God created us, he bears no responsibility for this, and rejects us from the moment we are born because of it.

Being perfect himself, he demands that we be perfect or be punished. We are by nature incapable of achieving this standard. Therefore God withdraws his love from us.

There is no help in this world. Other humans are as vile as ourselves. In fact, we are so vile that even when we constantly consult our conscience and obey its guide, we still fail, offending God even when we are trying our best not to do so.

Therefore, we must constantly confess our unworthiness and beg for God’s forgiveness, which can only be obtained through the intervention of Jesus, his firstborn, who is perfect. If we willingly abase ourselves in this manner, we can hope that after death releases us from suffering we will finally be granted the love of God that we have so desperately sought after our entire lives.

Have I got that right?

This is not an adult philosophy of life. It is a perfect portrait of the psychology of a chronically abused child.

That’s no way to get to heaven; it’s a way to live in hell. (235 words)

Religion and Health Care

This letter addresses an issue that is current and presents another argument that could be adapted to various cases.

I was astonished at the poverty of the moral reasoning employed in the Feb. 13 letter from the Barkersville Ministerial Association, which praised in extravagant terms the actions of pharmacist Allan Van Loon when he refused to fill a prescription for emergency contraception.

It is true that, were Van Loon himself a female teenage rape victim, his choice to forgo the use of such contraceptives might be a shining example of courage in conviction. But the point is, he is not. Van Loon took it upon himself to make a moral decision on behalf of another person, which he had no right to do. This is a violation of freedom of conscience, not an example of it!

This distinction seems to have escaped the reverends, as it escapes all self-appointed guardians of morality. Nonetheless it is basic. We all instinctively understand, and moral philosophers agree, that, all other things being equal, the person who must bear the consequences of a decision is the person who has the right to make that decision.

The violation of this rule is, in fact, what makes a crime a crime. Criminals undertake decisions that have damaging consequences for other people without those people’s consent.

Courage alone doesn’t make a hero; it takes lots of guts to rob a bank too. What Van Loon did was not heroic; it was simply criminal. (223 words)

Same issue, once again, general purpose argument!

Reverend Pretzel’s Feb. 22 defense of the druggist Allan Van Loon’s refusal to provide emergency contraception echoes that of the Barkersville Area Ministerial Association in every way, including its strategic overlooking of difficult issues.

It might surprise the Reverend to learn that I agree with virtually everything he says, except, of course, the absurd assertion that Christianity has a monopoly on morals—but that’s another letter. After all, the whole thing is simply a long-winded way of saying that to be moral, you must obey the dictates of your conscience, which is obvious.

What he and the other ministers of the association astonishingly remain blind to is the fact that how you obey the dictates of your conscience is just as much a moral issue as whether you obey it in the first place.

There is a tremendous difference between being determined to satisfy one’s conscience regardless of the cost to oneself and being determined to satisfy it regardless of the cost to others. The first is the mindset of a saint. The second is the mindset of a tyrant—or a witchburner.

If Mr. Van Loon truly cannot reconcile his conscience with his professional duties as a pharmacist, he has a simple expedient: quit being a pharmacist! Such a course would in fact be heroic. Evidently, however, he finds it inconvenient.

This obvious solution to his moral dilemma seems to have escaped the admiring ministers. I suggest the reverends work on getting the logs out of their own eyes before they worry about extracting the motes from other people’s. (256 words) SHB

Janet L. Factor is the founder of the Springfield (Illinois) Area Freethinkers.

Why I am a Freethinker, by Janet L. Factor

noreply@blogger.com (Janet) — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:52:00 +0000

My American Heritage Dictionary defines freethinker as "One who has rejected authority and dogma, especially in his religious thinking, in favor of rational inquiry and speculation." My ancient Webster’s says "A person who forms his opinions about religion independently of tradition, authority, or established belief. —SYN. see atheist."

Wondering exactly how it came to be assumed that thinking independently about religion inevitably led to atheism, I turned to that entry. The list of synonyms led from atheist, to agnostic, to deist, to the note that "freethinker, the current parallel term, similarly implies rejection of the tenets and traditions of formal religion as incompatible with reason". Ahah! There we have it, the unspoken logic, acknowledged: religion is incompatible with reason. Begin applying your brain systematically to belief, and belief dissolves under the assault.

Is this really so? I think so (though not all freethinkers agree). I received a traditional Christian upbringing. Buried somewhere with other keepsakes of my childhood I have an enameled gold pin, awarded for perfect attendance at Sunday school. From the circle dangles a chain of numbered bars, one awarded for each successive year. I believe, though I would (naturally!) have to check the evidence to be certain, that there are seven. There were many other years my attendance was not quite perfect; I went to Sunday school and to church, where I served as an acolyte, all the way through high school. No one could accuse my parents of neglecting my religious education.

Yet, here I stand, a freethinker—an atheist. What happened?

Putting it in the simplest possible terms, I learned to think. I went to college and received scientific training that taught me to examine every hypothesis for flaws, to look at the evidence, to test and test again and accept only those things that passed the tests as true. I learned the habit of making all beliefs provisional, no matter how attached I was to them.

Even in the laboratory, this is a painful process. Thomas Huxley called the feeling "the great tragedy of science—the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact." It is also, of course, the great triumph of science: that we are willing to accept, nay, to facilitate (for who else summoned that brutal fact to the scene?) the death of our dreams if that death buys us a greater measure of reality. To the scientist, truth is beyond price. He rises grim-faced from beside the pretty corpse that proved false, and sets to work to find a stronger love who will withstand the next assault.

Why choose such a path? Passion fuels the pursuit. For when you are right, when the hypothesis you have crafted and polished to perfection proves true, there is no feeling like it. When a theory is true, it comes to life, like Galatea embracing Pygmalion. Warm and living, it steps down from the pedestal and leads you into a new world, and all the cold shattered statues of the past have no meaning anymore; they are no loss compared to this gain.

Applying science’s discipline to religious matters made me a freethinker. When we look at religions we see God offered to us as an explanation of last resort. How did life come into being? God created it. Why is the world this way? God made it so. Why do people suffer? It is part of God’s plan. Ultimately, God’s role is explanatory.

The idea of God is just another hypothesis, and all hypotheses are subject to equal scrutiny. We must ask, if we have any intellectual integrity at all, "What is the evidence for this conjecture?" Alas, there is none that passes scientific muster. Anecdotal evidence is not enough. The single great realization that has made all science, all progress, possible is this: Human beings habitually deceive themselves. This means YOU! If self-deception cannot be eliminated, the evidence must be ruled out of court. There is nothing material that points to God, only witnesses with personal agendas to push.

Giving up the dream of God hurts, but Oh! it is worth the price. Nature is a true love, and one of surpassing beauty. I find the intricate mechanisms of evolution far more miraculous to contemplate than the image of a glorified old man waving his hand and shouting "Shazzam!" The Hubble photo of the star nursery in the Eagle Nebula, commonly called the Pillars of Creation, is an image fantastical in its beauty, far more wondrous to behold than anything ever dreamed up by religious thinkers limited in their experience to the surface of a single planet. Stop fantasizing about spiritual wonders, and you will find ample opportunity for ecstasy in this life.

The real is of infinitely greater value than the imagined. I would not trade the love of my husband for the love of a thousand whispering gods. No god ever knelt at night to tug fleece socks onto my freezing feet as I moaned and shook in a cold sweat of horrible illness. Not spirit hands, but human ones comforted me then. And so it has always been, for all of us. Love is not a divine gift, but a human one. We have only to open our eyes to see it, and be glad.

The social veil

noreply@blogger.com (Fred Slocombe) — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:42:00 +0000

Conspiracy theorists suspect there is a "social veil" beyond which resides the true manipulators of western industrial culture.

The masses cannot see beyond the social veil, they only see that which they believe directly influences their lives.

What exactly is the social veil? The veil is made entirely of petty distractions. Distractions such as religion, sports, politics, home-making, lawn care, daily toil for someone else, competing for local social status, etc.

The veil must be maintained by constantly communicating messages that reinforce the values of these existing petty distractions.

The mass media can easily deny responsibility for reinforcing the social veil because they claim they merely provide the messages the audience wants to experience.

More responsibility belongs to certain media associated with early childhood development and education.

Mainly the early Dick and Jane books, using buses to move children to unfamiliar neighborhoods instead of improving the schools in the neighborhoods, history education about how certain cultures were conquered so we assume they are still below the status of their conquerors, the use of local property taxes to create an imbalance in education funding, employees getting recruited at local churches instead of local universities, etc.

Early conditioning stays with us, and our fear of the unknown and our programmed expectations of others are the strings by which we are controlled, from beyond the social veil.

History is full of lies, while science can be tested and proven true or false. They who call themselves "theologians" are well-versed in manipulation of the masses, like that revealed by Niccolo Machiavelli in his book The Prince.

However, theologians are merely the unwitting guards and cultivators of the social veil. They too are mere victims of its power because we are only as good as our limited choices allow.

How do we tear away the social veil? Stop believing.

Start questioning absolutely everything, like we did when we were young and we kept asking "Why?"
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Bias contributes to downfall of old media.

noreply@blogger.com (Springfield Area Freethinkers) — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:22:00 +0000

An advanced Google Search within the Sj-r.com website for the words "abortion," "life" and "choice," prefaced by "Anti-" and "Pro-" resulted in some curious findings.

Anti-Abortion: 32 search results
Pro-Abortion: 83 search results
Pro-Life: 1,210 search results
Pro-Choice: 361 search results

This research was inspired by a list of pro-life supporters published by the Springfield Right to Life organization, on page 4, 5 and 6 of the Illinois State Journal Register, January 25, 2010.

Follow-up research: Who among the newspaper staff is on that list? So far, the Editor of the Editorial Page.

End of Democracy

noreply@blogger.com (Springfield Area Freethinkers) — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:38:00 +0000

The end of democracy as we know it.

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How Semiotics contributes to Freethought

noreply@blogger.com (Fred Slocombe) — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:56:00 +0000

Why Semiotics?

Semiotics is the study of signs; the meaning and function of communication. The subject sets up another lexicon of terms to describe the functions of Operant Conditioning in psychology as it applies to cultures.

The original concept was to determine how language evolved, but I take interest in semiotics for its usefulness in identifying the influence of symbols, icons, architecture, and shapes of every kind, on our subconscious minds and the structure of hidden meanings implied or inferred when two or more signs are combined in juxtaposition (side-by-side) or in montage (one after the other in a series.)

There are fundamental pieces of our world that influence all of us, and there are experts who have mastered the art of "hidden persuasion" in advertising, or where ever deception is needed for personal gain. (http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Persuaders-Vance-Packard/dp/0671531492 )

The social engineering of our culture is generations old, and is being exploited to such an extent that people are getting physically ill and dying from the ill-informed choices they make for themselves and their children.

Semiotics begins to unveil the machinery behind the hidden curtain of cultural influence.

One source is Semiotics for Beginners by Daniel Chandler
[ http://www.aber.ac.uk/media/Documents/S4B/semiotic.html ]

The current book I’m reading is highly entertaining and well-illustrated, called “Introducing Semiotics”
[ http://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Semiotics-Third-Paul-Cobley/dp/1840465840/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262453044&sr=1-6 ]

At the very least they provide a method by which we can begin to scrutinize incoming messages. For me it’s a mental exercise tool for reinforcing skepticism.

Rational Response Squad Live Video Chat party Christmas Day

noreply@blogger.com (Springfield Area Freethinkers) — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:43:00 +0000

Live Video Chat Party December 25th

We have T-Shirts

noreply@blogger.com (Springfield Area Freethinkers) — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:30:00 +0000

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I doubt that you will be burned at the stake. Anything approaching departure from established beliefs is defined as heretical. Heresy and Blasphemy rocks!

Social Engineering in Public Education

noreply@blogger.com (Springfield Area Freethinkers) — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:57:00 +0000

By Fred Slocombe

A new film out by Cevin Soling exposes the truth about bad behavior of some students in school, that bad behavior in school is really a symptom of the oppressive social engineering of the public education system.

I’ve written letters to the editor about how bad school was for me. The majority of people have come to accept the public school system as “just fine the way it is.” They are the victims of a social engineering program that creates the idea in your head that you will live out your life working for someone else. The result is a massive surplus of workers. When there is a surplus of workers, the price of labor goes down.

Cevin Soling focuses on the transformation of public education from a factory model to a prison model which I can infer will engineer children to grow up to fear authority, to such a degree that they will no longer question authority.

The following is my personal transcript from the show “The Colbert Report.” I didn’t capture every nuance of the interview so I recommend watching it, then buying Cevin Soling’s video “The War on Kids.” http://wwwthewaronkids.com

Transcript from The Colbert Report November 30 2009

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/256926/november-30-2009/cevin-soling

Cevin Soling - Documentary: The War on Kids. http://www.thewaronkids.com

Stephen Colber: "My guest tonight made a documentary about our broken school system. It's so important I suggest all you kids skip school tommorrow to see it. Please welcom Cevin Soling!"

Stephen: "Mr. Soling thanks so much for joining us."

Cevin: "Thank You."

Stephen:"Now Sir, you have a new documentary called 'the war on kids.' What's the war, how can I sign up, okay, because it is us or them. They're here to replace us and I will not stand for it. Hit it."

Cevin: "The War is being fought by anyone who supports the current incarnation of public education."

Stephen: "I support it with my tax dollars sir."

Cevin" "Everyone or most people seem to supports it, many inadvertently and many with the best intentions. The problem now is that schools have now been transformed into, effectively prisons. "

Stephen: "What do you mean, prisons?"

Cevin:"There is a tremendous effort on school security, which has taken precedent over education, you have security cameras in the hallways, sometimes in the classrooms, metal detectors."

Stephen: "That's to protect us from the kids and the kids from each other. Those metal detectors don't spring up out of nowhere."

Cevin: "It is there but it's the environment that actually creates the need for that security."

Stephen: "But what's it doing to the kids, why is this a war on kids?"

Cevin: "Normal childhood behavior has been pathologized such that you have a situation where we're constantly drugging kids, you have perhaps upwards of eight million kids who are on anti-depressants or stimulants, or something for A.D.D. or other types of..."

Stephen: "Like Ritalin, things like that."

Cevin: "Absolutely. Basically, if you were to imagine taking..."

Stephen:" There on these things, it helps the pharmaceutical companies, it helps the teachers, and it helps the kids."

Cevin: "It doesn't help the kids though, the situation is a response to the oppressive environments of the classroom.

Stephen: "Wait a second. What would you rather the kids be on, Drugs?"

Cevin: "It's the environ...There's very little difference, or virtually no difference between these drugs and drugs that have been made illegal. What's happening with these kids in the classroom is that we're drugging them to make them adapt and conform to these oppressive environments that have taken place in schools."

Stephen: "What is wrong with conformity? Okay? Conformity's great isn't it?" [Stephen asks the audience]

The audience cheers and claps.

Stephen: "See, the majority agrees that conformity is great."

Cevin: "Conformity is the antithesis to American ideals and American spirit and I imagine you for one would want a society where everyone has the potential to be self-actualized."

Stephen: "Exactly, everyone should be able to do what they believe I want them to. But are you saying it was better at some point in the past? kids have always been trouble for teachers."

Cevin: "There never was a golden age of schooling, and that's one of the fallacies, Schooling was actually a Prussian Model, it was conceived in the 1800s as a military model to get people to become good soldiers, where they wouldn't ask questions and they could behave in a docile manner. with the advent of the Industrial revolution there was a factory model and you had different classrooms and the bell ringing, and all the different subjects broken down."

Stephen:" So schools are kid factories?"

Cevin: "They were there to train kids so they could adopt to factory lifestyle, which is why school today is still incredibly boring."

Audience laughs

Stephen:"Stay in school, kids."

Cevin"Now what's happened is because of media hype and fear, you have this overdependence on security, and the prison model has been adopted, in fact the same architects who have designed prisons are the same ones designing the new schools."

Stephen:"Now you went to minimum security prisons to check 'em out?"

Cevin: "I went to one in Ohio and compared it with a tour of an average school in New Jersey, and the amazing thing was that the prison was pretty much superior in every single way. If you were a parent and didn't know that one was a prison and one was a school, you would readily send your kid to the prison, it was better taken care of..."

Audience laughs

Stephen: "That would be a penny saver."

Cevin:"The food was the same, I'll give them that. I'm not advocating that kids go to prison instead of school, I'm thinking..."

Audience Laughs

Stephen: "Sounds like it."

Cevin: "ultimately they end up there. One of the problems that's taking place is zero tolerance is now ubiquitous."

Stephen: "Of what? Zero Tolerance of what? Drugs?"

Cevin: "No.."

Stepben: "knives? guns? Weapons?"

Cevin: "The spirit was that but now you have kids who are expelled or suspended for the most trivial of offenses or non-offensive. One school suspended a number of Kindergartners for playing cops and robbers because they were using their fingers as a gun, and another kid..."

Stephen: "Those things could a been loaded."

Cevin: "They could have"

Stephen: "Who knows where those fingers have been?"

Audience Laughs

Cevin: "But its gotten out of hand and you have this criminalization, you have five, six, seven year-olds handcuffed and taken to prison for throwing spit wads."

Stephen: "Some of those have cooties. Thank you so much. The film is 'The War on Kids' my guest is Cevin Soling. We'll be right back."

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/256926/november-30-2009/cevin-soling

http://www.thewaronkids.com

Robert Crumb Illustrates the Old Testiment

noreply@blogger.com (Springfield Area Freethinkers) — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:12:00 +0000

Site update

noreply@blogger.com (Springfield Area Freethinkers) — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:19:00 +0000

The site is up and has many links to explore. http://www.safreethinkers.com

WE ARE ONLINE!

noreply@blogger.com (Springfield Area Freethinkers) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:42:00 +0000

The site is in progress! The blog is here. There is much work to be done. Must move on for now. See you very soon!