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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" media="screen" href="/~d/styles/atom10full.xsl"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" media="screen" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~d/styles/itemcontent.css"?><feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0" xmlns:feedburner="http://rssnamespace.org/feedburner/ext/1.0" gd:etag="W/&quot;DkUDQHs6cSp7ImA9WhRVFk8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-796029829099582788</id><updated>2012-01-15T21:44:31.519+11:00</updated><category term="emerging theologies" /><category term="monotheism" /><category term="education" /><category term="reflection" /><category term="control" /><category term="Dara Molloy" /><category term="dogma" /><category term="heaven" /><category term="Reza Aslan" /><category term="human rights" /><category term="forgiveness" /><category term="easter" /><category term="Natalie Merchant" /><category term="jihad" /><category term="protests" /><category term="Kirsopp Lake" /><category term="organised religion" /><category term="Pete Rollins" /><category term="Jesus of Montreal" /><category term="flow" /><category term="experimentalists" /><category term="believers" /><category term="Quran" /><category term="spirit" /><category term="Polytheism" /><category term="ungathered" /><category term="Globalisation" /><category term="branding" /><category term="gathering" /><category term="Violence" /><category term="torture" /><category term="cross" /><category term="Interfaith" /><category term="fundamentalism" /><category term="fresh expressions" /><category term="vision" /><category term="judgement" /><category term="spiritual" /><category term="resource ministry" /><category term="Greta Vosper" /><category term="reflecting" /><category term="journey" /><category term="Samir Selmanovic" /><category term="listening" /><category term="Brian McLaren" /><category term="blasphemy" /><category term="Jesus Christ Superstar" /><category term="religion" /><category term="power" /><category term="aggression" /><category term="bushland chapel" /><category term="debt" /><category term="Lloyd Geering" /><category term="love" /><category term="uncontested space" /><category term="poverty" /><title>Emerging Theology</title><subtitle type="html">This is the blog of Trevor Jennings, a Uniting Church Minister, living in Australia.</subtitle><link rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://trevorjennings.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://trevorjennings.blogspot.com/" /><link rel="next" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/796029829099582788/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25&amp;redirect=false&amp;v=2" /><author><name>Trevor Jennings</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08784860380020570400</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="33" height="22" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zqyVHEN_O1w/Tb6VDIV-3II/AAAAAAAAAHc/wBBQw2Cq4X4/s220/Close%2Bup.jpg" /></author><generator version="7.00" uri="http://www.blogger.com">Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>28</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/StJohnsUnitingChurch" /><feedburner:info uri="stjohnsunitingchurch" /><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/" /><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUQGRH46fyp7ImA9WhRWGU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-796029829099582788.post-8308301015532436157</id><published>2012-01-07T21:48:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2012-01-07T21:48:45.017+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-01-07T21:48:45.017+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="organised religion" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="resource ministry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="flow" /><title>Outwardly focused religious life</title><content type="html">&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
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Organised religion requires an inflow of money to keep the system going. It has largely done this through the giving of its members who gather on Sundays or on other days of the week. When the people flow dries up so does the money flow unless it can rely on the income derived from property, investments etc.&lt;/div&gt;
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My observation is that much church life is about gathering people (the shrinking few) and trying to get more out of them both in commitment to the organisation and in financial terms.&lt;/div&gt;
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The key difference here for me is the difference between inward focused religious life and outwardly focused religious life. Unfortunately I think whether we have churches organised around one leader or supported by a resource minister we can be still maintaining the inward focused flow.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;So often the flow from the church is disillusioned hurt people like a trail of blood from a wounded dying animal rather than a flow like a river of life nourishing the world.&lt;span id="goog_1748258145"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_1748258146"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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The church is dead. Long live the church! &lt;/div&gt;
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Fresh expressions or last gasps?&lt;/div&gt;
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It seems to me that much of what people who congregate as
Christians do or what is classed as mission only appeals to less than 5% of the
Australian population. Much of what goes on is merely attracting people from
other denominations. One example (among many) is of more conservative minded
people drifting to more conservative minded congregations and more liberal
minded people drifting to more liberal minded congregations. Some may be attracted
in from a non-religious background but the amount of disillusioned believers
leaving seems to be growing even faster. If a congregation or denomination or
'the church' is concerned about its impact, the uncontested space of the 95%
might be where it could focus its efforts and resources for the greatest
rewards. &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ado2DkZcPZA/TwRWwkXPdLI/AAAAAAAAAJU/ZsqRPu_2z00/s1600/Trevorone0304.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ado2DkZcPZA/TwRWwkXPdLI/AAAAAAAAAJU/ZsqRPu_2z00/s320/Trevorone0304.JPG" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Meanwhile, I think every church, every congregation, has to
de-construct what it is, why it exists, what it does, how it holds power, its
history, its place in society, its view of 'the truth', what it represents, how
it relates to people who do not want to believe or people who do not want to be
part of organised religion and so on. There may be a lot to let go of including
ideas about God and notions of what is truth and who and what defines truth and
letting go of the things we do, that we hold to but which work against what we
really want to express. For example baptism and communion in the way we
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In recent years congregations have been encouraged to come
up with quick vision statements and medium to long tem strategies, but I think
we need to sit for a while in case the vision statement or strategy is built on
ways of being church and believing that not only those beyond the church cannot
relate to but even those still within the life of the church cannot relate to. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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I really enjoy the congregation that I am currently
committed to. It is the Bushland Chapel at &lt;st1:city w:st="on"&gt;Helensburgh&lt;/st1:city&gt;,
&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:state w:st="on"&gt;New South Wales&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;
&lt;a href="http://bushlandchapel.net/"&gt;http://bushlandchapel.net/&lt;/a&gt;. I enjoy
Sunday gatherings there because what goes on enables me to reflect on stories
of lived life and biblical stories and other stories. I think that ‘the church’
could become something different in the world and a means of transformation in
society when instead of telling people what to believe and how to behave it creates
space for people to reflect, to develop their own beliefs, to be creative and then
to trust people to do what they want to do and the choices they make about
living. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Somewhere in here I think is a
way that those of us who are still connected with the church could engage more creatively
and authentically with the 95%.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;I read something in Greta Vosper's
book 'With or without God' that really got my attention. Greta quoted Lloyd
Geering who in an article titled ‘&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;Fundamentalism:
the Challenge to the Secular World’ (&lt;a href="http://www.religion-online.org/"&gt;www.religion-online.org&lt;/a&gt;)
&lt;/span&gt;quoted&amp;nbsp;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:placename w:st="on"&gt;Kirsopp&lt;/st1:placename&gt;&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:placetype w:st="on"&gt;Lake&lt;/st1:placetype&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;who in 1925 (86 years ago) predicted
that the church is shrinking from the left. He said that the fundamentalists (the
right) will eventually triumph in the church. They will drive the
'experimentalists ' (the radicals) out of the church and then reabsorb the
'Institutionalists' (liberals) who under pressure will become more orthodox. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;This got my attention because it
was 86 years ago and was a prediction about the future and is exactly what I
think is happening today. Will fundamentalism eventually triumph? I hope not and
I don’t want to be forced out of the church.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--JfJ0EzpJWo/TtTmJ0pY4dI/AAAAAAAAAJI/TCBMZTlbl1Q/s1600/IRELAND+2010+211.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="150" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--JfJ0EzpJWo/TtTmJ0pY4dI/AAAAAAAAAJI/TCBMZTlbl1Q/s200/IRELAND+2010+211.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; font-size: small; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Lake&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; font-size: small; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt; said &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;that it was
more difficult for experimentalists to establish a viable identity because they
had no firm belief structure&lt;/i&gt;. It is much easier for fundamentalists and
conservatives to brand their version of Christianity. They know what they are
on about and can articulate it clearly and quickly because it is made up of
rigid doctrines and dogma. The challenge for those of us who hold less rigid
views, those who want to experiment, is to find ways to brand Christianity
differently than the branding done by more theologically conservative and
fundamentalist Christians. This branding has to stand apart from the branding
of fundamentalists and reflect a definite direction, not rigid, not dogmatic,
but meaningful, inclusive, authentic, spiritually enriching, life enhancing, passionately
committed to loving action, to social justice, to mercy, to forgiveness and to
making this a better world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z6nrLDWVocg/TrpwIqEMlrI/AAAAAAAAAIw/Lnk-9sH-GZs/s1600/IRELAND+2010+254.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="150" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z6nrLDWVocg/TrpwIqEMlrI/AAAAAAAAAIw/Lnk-9sH-GZs/s200/IRELAND+2010+254.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Today, I was thinking about the spiritual journey a number of us went on in a study group during my last two years as a minister at St. John's Uniting Church, Neutral Bay (Sydney).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px;"&gt;The journey can only be followed by looking back.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px;"&gt;There was no strategic plan to cover all the books listed below, there was no predetermined destination, no outcomes or key performance indicators. Rather it was a journey of exploration, leading from one book to another, like island hopping as we ventured further and further out to sea away from our port of origin.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Along the way not only did we read books, we met Brian McLaren in person in North Sydney, watched Pete Rollins on Vimeo, had a Skype session with Samir Selmanovic from New York and we often saw Reza Aslan interviewed on ABC (Australia). We were enriched by the journey and very challenged by it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px;"&gt;It made me realise that just there is always more to learn about the people who inhabit this planet, the need for a just an equitable world in which to live, an ability to include one's 'enemies' as well as one's 'neighbours', to learn from all people, to really question the way we do 'our religion', to make meaning for today, to live in the present moment, to live without fear, that there is always more to learn about that whom we call God and lots more. One major thing it taught me is that there is a depth of faith to discover beyond the religious harbours we seek to find safety in.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;I have included the books, authors and some web links below.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Everything must change: Jesus, Global crisis and a revolution of hope’ by Brian 
McLaren &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.brianmclaren.net/archives/books/brians-books/" target="_blank" title="blocked::http://www.brianmclaren.net/archives/books/brians-books/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;" title="blocked::http://www.brianmclaren.net/archives/books/brians-books/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: windowtext;" title="blocked::http://www.brianmclaren.net/archives/books/brians-books/"&gt;http://www.brianmclaren.net/archives/books/brians-books/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;‘The secret message of 
Jesus’ by Brian McLaren &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.brianmclaren.net/" target="_blank" title="blocked::http://www.brianmclaren.net/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;" title="blocked::http://www.brianmclaren.net/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: windowtext;" title="blocked::http://www.brianmclaren.net/"&gt;http://www.brianmclaren.net/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;‘The fidelity of 
betrayal: towards a church beyond belief’ by Peter Rollins &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://peterrollins.net/" target="_blank" title="blocked::http://peterrollins.net/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;" title="blocked::http://peterrollins.net/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: windowtext;" title="blocked::http://peterrollins.net/"&gt;http://peterrollins.net/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;‘It’s really all about God’ by Samir 
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&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;‘No god but God’ by Reza Aslan &lt;a href="http://www.rezaaslan.com/nogodbutgod.html" target="_blank" title="blocked::http://www.rezaaslan.com/nogodbutgod.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;" title="blocked::http://www.rezaaslan.com/nogodbutgod.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: windowtext;" title="blocked::http://www.rezaaslan.com/nogodbutgod.html"&gt;http://www.rezaaslan.com/nogodbutgod.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Seemingly, it was first performed forty years ago in 1971. I'm older than that. It has been around for a long time so why haven't I seen it before now? I think it was performed in Ireland for the first time at the beginning of 1973 and I remember that there were protests about it when it came to Cork. Some people were still protesting it again in 2003 when it was performed in Cork. Was it those 1970s protests that put me off? I'm sure that at the time the protests acted as the best publicity.&lt;br /&gt;
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As I watched the performance I thought about the protests.What was all the fuss about? Why were some who claim to be followers of Jesus so threatened by it? I imagined that the protesters could have been part of the script. It would be interesting to place a performance of Jesus Christ Superstar within another musical or play a bit like the plot of the film 'Jesus of Montreal' (1989). The protesters adding more calls of 'blasphemy' would only enhance the script and bring into sharper focus how we can use religion as a negative, oppressive and controlling force in people's lives today just as it was back in the time of Jesus. Perhaps it has been done already.&lt;br /&gt;
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Just as Jesus challenged the religion of his day so the religion of our day needs to be challenged. We want to challenge people beyond our definitions of the church with the message of Jesus but will we let people 'beyond' or 'outside' the church challenge us with the message of Jesus? Shall we let them speak (or sing, dance and act) or shall we seek to silence them just as we seek to silence those within the church who raise questions and see things differently?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-3987309835105184170?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rjGmSsGVSog/TcAM8xoRwhI/AAAAAAAAAIA/FUtXwBqJOVw/s1600/IRELAND+2010+074.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rjGmSsGVSog/TcAM8xoRwhI/AAAAAAAAAIA/FUtXwBqJOVw/s200/IRELAND+2010+074.JPG" width="150" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;What was the chorus? Answer: I have decided to follow Jesus. The original version goes like this: &lt;i&gt;I have decided to follow Jesus, I have decided to follow Jesus, I have decided to follow Jesus, no turning back, no turning back. The cross before me, the world behind me, the cross before me, the world behind me, no turning back, no turning back.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;The line I had reversed was being sung like this: &lt;i&gt;the cross behind us, the world before us...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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When I look at a lot of Christianity it seems to have turned its back on this world in which we live. It's focus is on the world to come. Some Christians appear to uncritically follow the symbol of a cross, they have exchanged living life to the full for a narrow version of the message of Jesus. Suppose we were to see the cross as the beginning or the spring board for living life rather than the end. After all don't we turn on Easter Sunday from an empty cross and an empty tomb in the power of the resurrection to follow where the Spirit leads us in life?&lt;br /&gt;
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The cross is symbolic of a God who suffers with humanity, with all creation and who frees us to live the life we were created to live. With the cross behind us, with the foundation of that theology, a theology grounded in the suffering and death of Jesus we focus firmly on making this world a better place. The cross behind us. the world before us...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-8992802518991839407?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TvRkl9BbB28/TYSMZ1v8EvI/AAAAAAAAAHM/KnyPiJU3h24/s1600/IRELAND+2010+056.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="150" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TvRkl9BbB28/TYSMZ1v8EvI/AAAAAAAAAHM/KnyPiJU3h24/s200/IRELAND+2010+056.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;If you search on the internet you will see that there are many male church leaders forcefully speaking and writing against what is emerging within the church. Why is this? Are they afraid that Christians will be led astray once more or are they afraid of losing power or what? I am not surprised at this because this has been the history of the church. Church history has been written by the victors, not the losers. The victors being those who exercised power and excluded others with an alternative view or theology. Often these were excommunicated from the church or from a particular denomination. Theological view points were enforced by threat of death and by the use of armed forces. Writings were burned along with their authors. Thus we have had a suppression of female voices, alternative voices, minority voices, prophetic voices etc. So when I see this debate going on within the church I just think here we go again.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rather than defending the truth at all costs, would it not be more in line with following Jesus to take a more humble approach? If we are so set in our beliefs as being right may we not be in danger of not following the Spirit in this day? My experience has been that there are many people outside the church who do not consider themselves as Christian but who are engaging with the teaching of Jesus and living this out in their lives. Surely how we live is more important than what we believe or at least what we believe must be lived out not just believed? &amp;nbsp;Unfortunately many of us live out what we believe the gospel to be in a violent way and unaware of the violence we do to others. Is this the gospel of Jesus we are living out or is it the gospel eclipsed by ego, power and the desire to control? How different might the church be if we emphasised living out love and if we looked and listened beyond the church to what may be emerging?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-7056418092755447855?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;I like the idea of churches creating space for people to gather and reflect. To be a place where people gather, the church must be a welcoming place not just for some people, not just for the people who think like us, but even for people who do not think like us. This is very challenging for me. It means that when I gather with people whose ideas and beliefs I do not share, I need to suspend those ideas and beliefs for a time, to put them to the side, and step into a space where I can be open to other people, to see beyond our differences, and to find openings where together we can proceed further in relationship with one another, and where together we can tackle the issues and challenges we face in this world at this time.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-3819825217565577238?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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One way fundamentalism seems to thrive is amongst people who have been impoverished by non-democratic government and denied access to basic secular education, while at the same time receiving an overdose of narrow religious dogma. Reza Aslan says that the more we try to forcefully stamp out fundamentalism, the more it will grow and if we ignore it, it will take over. So what alternatives do we have?&lt;br /&gt;
I'm wondering whether lifting poverty levels and increasing education availability would help to diminish the supply of people fundamentalist groups seek to recruit? How can we, as nations looking in on situations where human rights and democratic&lt;br /&gt;
government are denied, assist in raising poverty levels and access to education?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-7912783665969915963?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;I spent most of the day making notes for our study group on Reza Aslan's book 'No god but God: the origins, evolution and future of Islam'. This week we are reading chapter seven which is entitled 'In the footsteps of the martyrs'. The chapter is a summary&amp;nbsp;of Shi'ism&amp;nbsp;from its origins in bloody and tragic circumstances to the revolution in Iran and the war between between Iran and Iraq during which tens of thousands of children were killed as martyrs, thus the title of the chapter 'In the footsteps of the martyrs'.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eAsiCCEKYsc/TI32ceVpcII/AAAAAAAAAC8/0Xi0sdVgPaU/s1600/IRELAND+'08+086.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eAsiCCEKYsc/TI32ceVpcII/AAAAAAAAAC8/0Xi0sdVgPaU/s200/IRELAND+'08+086.JPG" width="150" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;In December, North Sydney Council is holding an Interfaith Forum on raising awareness of issues of violence in the home. In preparation a few of us had a discussion during the week and we talked about how biblical texts can be used to trap women within the cycle of violence. One such text being: 'take up your cross and follow me'. Some women have applied this text to themselves or have it applied to them by male church leaders in such a &amp;nbsp;way that they regard having to live with a violent partner as being the cross they must bear as a good Christian and their lot for life.&lt;br /&gt;
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When we men (male religious leaders) allow this to happen it is like we are allowing Christ to be crucified twice (to speak in theological terms) or in non theological terms that we men are not taking responsibility to let other men know in the strongest terms possible that violence against women and children in any form is wrong and totally unacceptable.&lt;br /&gt;
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Violence and religion has had a long history and much human violence is attributed to God. Shall we continue to go along with the status quo, the acceptance of the relationship between violence and religion or shall we in all religions reject violence as attributable to God and dare to question our own interpretations of our sacred texts?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-812370897210215608?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;a href="http://peterrollins.net/blog/?p=1193&amp;amp;cpage=1#comment-7481"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I like to listen to the American folk song 'Owensboro' brought to recent life by Natalie Merchant about the people considered thrash working in a mill in Owensboro, Kentucky. They learn to spin and spoon but never get a proper education. Dressed in rags, and surviving on the basics, their lives are compared to the fine clothes and pearls of the people of the town. The saddest words for me come at the end: 'But when that day of judgement comes they'll have to share their pretty things.' Again it seems that the only hope these people were given was that in heaven the injustices and inequity of this world would be redressed and yet they probably were taught to pray each day...may your will be done on earth as it is in heaven..&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;When we talk about debts in church we are usually referring to how we have sinned against God and against one another. Jesus told a parable about a manager who was accused of squandering his master's property and then of dishonesty for how he significantly reduced what his master's debtors owed. However, to our surprise the master commends the manager for his shrewd actions. Somewhere in this parable is a hint that forgiveness involves real action. Forgiving debts is not just about forgiving those who have sinned against us as individuals and saying,"I forgive you". Forgiving debts is also a matter of justice and that dropping the debt of the debt-ridden poorest nations of the world is about real forgiveness.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jubileeaustralia.org/"&gt;www.jubileeaustralia.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="color: #666666; font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-94517768013689811?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Speaking of imagination, I sometimes wonder whether monotheism, the idea that there is only one God, has been employed as a way to control people. Dara Molloy in his book 'The Globalisation of God' says, "&lt;i&gt;With the emergence of monotheism came the discovery of a new political tool by which people could be managed. That tool is what we now call dogma. Dogma is the exaltation of an opinion or hypothesis into a belief to which others must subscribe." &lt;/i&gt;(Molloy, Dara, 'The Globalisation of God', Co. Galway, Aisling Publications, 2009; p.46). The primary dogma being that there is only one God.&lt;br /&gt;
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How has this one belief effected the world? How has this one belief been used by religious and political leaders in people control? More reflections on monotheism to come...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-2527983383390944400?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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A just war was in response to injustice, a response to the aggression of others and never instigated by a follower of Muhammad.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-2779421830157523067?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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'It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand.' Mark Twain &lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus was talking to the large crowds of people who were travelling with him and he said some extremely disturbing things: Who ever does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, even life itself, cannot be my disciple... Whoever does not carry the cross and follow me cannot be my disciple... none of you can become my disciple if you do not give up all your possessions.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not sure whether I understand this or not but it certainly bothers me. I don't think telling people who come to church on Father's Day in Australia this Sunday that if one doesn't hate one's father one cannot be Jesus' disciple.&lt;br /&gt;
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I guess Jesus was emphasising the real cost of his own life as he goes on 'the way' and that anyone who chooses to follow him ought to consider the possibility that it might cost of one's own life. &lt;br /&gt;
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It sounds like the warning the leader of a terrorist organisation might give to her or his followers. Perhaps Jesus was exaggerating to make a point or perhaps Jesus was highlighting the fact that grace does not come cheap, or perhaps we'll never really be able to understand it. It's pretty heavy stuff and it bothers me.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-4651232610824520962?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Surely being anti-religion does not always mean that one is anti-God? What kinds of God are our religions creating? Have we made a god of religion?&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking forward to hearing from people who cherish the name atheist.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-783097038618037894?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Is there a way for us to negotiate meaning beyond statistical evidence and individual texts?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-1510815127342377610?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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How can men make their partners attend churches like these? Why do men allow male clergy to get away with this kind of discrimination? Why do women go along with it? Why would parents want to bring their children up in this sort of environment? Is there something else controlling them? Fear? Fear that if they leave they will lose their salvation or that they are not good Christian women or men? Could this be a form of brain washing? How could people be tricked into thinking this is the gospel?&lt;br /&gt;
Has anyone left this kind of church and discovered that they are still loved by God?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/796029829099582788-8192978431960348157?l=trevorjennings.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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