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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" media="screen" href="/~d/styles/atom10full.xsl"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" media="screen" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~d/styles/itemcontent.css"?><feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/" xmlns:blogger="http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0" xmlns:feedburner="http://rssnamespace.org/feedburner/ext/1.0" gd:etag="W/&quot;C0cFSH89eCp7ImA9WhBUGEQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947</id><updated>2013-05-06T21:43:39.160-04:00</updated><category term="Bad Checks discussion" /><title>Steve Harms - Credit and Collections</title><subtitle type="html">Partner: Muller Muller Richmond Harms and Myers, a debt collection law firm based in Birmingham Michigan</subtitle><link rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/" /><link rel="next" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25&amp;redirect=false&amp;v=2" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><generator version="7.00" uri="http://www.blogger.com">Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>56</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections" /><feedburner:info uri="steveharms-creditandcollections" /><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/" /><feedburner:emailServiceId>SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections</feedburner:emailServiceId><feedburner:feedburnerHostname>http://feedburner.google.com</feedburner:feedburnerHostname><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A08HSHk6cCp7ImA9WhBVEk8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-1972049347157020034</id><published>2013-04-17T16:17:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2013-04-17T16:17:19.718-04:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2013-04-17T16:17:19.718-04:00</app:edited><title>Debt collection starts with a credit application!</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Debt collection really begins when you first sign on your client or customer!&amp;nbsp; At the beginning of the relationship, you aren't anticipating collection problems, of course, but you do know that a certain percentage of customers go bad and turn into collection problems.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;So, why not protect yourself right from the beginning, starting with a credit application (you may not call it that, but you should have a form that new clients/patients/customers fill out).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;What should it contain, well consider these items:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Consider accumulating the information in some way so that you have the following data on each of your clients: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;1. The correct and full legal name of the applicant, the physical address (not merely a post office box), and the position of the individual who is applying (treasurer, president, etc.). To make sure that the customer clearly specifies the type of business entity, provide check-off boxes for proprietorship is also a good idea. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;2. Any trade names the company operates under. For example, if the Brake Shop is a division of Win Management Corporation, the application should require that both names be listed along with the relationship between the two.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;3. Names, addresses, and telephone numbers of any authorized purchasers at any branches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;4. Names, addresses, telephone numbers, and social security numbers of partners and officers. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;5. Name, address, and telephone number of the bank where the company maintains its accounts. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;6. Names, addresses, and telephone numbers of several trade references. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;7. Type of product(s) sold.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;8. Year the business was formed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;9. A statement similar to the following: “A signature on this document provides permission to pull a credit bureau report on any individual who may be liable under this agreement (such as a personal guarantor, proprietor, general partner, or similar person).”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;10. Financial statements.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;11. Amount of credit requested.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;12. Anticipated monthly purchases.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;13. A statement that the customer agrees to pay interest at a specific percentage rate, or the maximum legal rate of interest from the date of the last invoice. The interest charges are to be construed as a time-price differential and therefore not considered interest.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;14. A personal guaranty, which should be obtained on all credit applications. Obviously, the signing of a personal guaranty is optional and requires a separate signature from the signature on the credit application itself. The language of the personal guaranty should be somewhat similar to the following:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Should the account become delinquent, the undersigned personally guarantees payment of the account balance to Creditor Company plus the interest and other charges referred to in this application, including reasonable attorney fees. This is a guaranty of payment. The guaranty is personal in nature and the undersigned acknowledges personal liability and consents to having a credit bureau report ordered by the creditor. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;The suit also includes a cover sheet referred to as a Summons, which is form language required by the court explaining to the debtor the case number, how many days to answer the suit, the fact that this is a suit, and some other details.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;BOTH the Summons and the Complaint must be served on the debtor/defendant, within the time allowed before it expires (the Summons may have the expiration date right on it).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;If the defendant is an individual, as opposed to a business, personal service is required.&amp;nbsp; This generally means the debtor (at least in Michigan, and the practice does vary a bit from state to state, country to country) is handed the document.&amp;nbsp; However, in Michigan at least, this does not require a physical touching of the Summons and Complaint.&amp;nbsp; It does require three things:&amp;nbsp; Inform the debtor of the action; offer them to the debtor; and leave them in the debtor's physical control.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;So, what does the process server do if the debtor takes off running into his house and slams the door (happens often, or some variation of this)?&amp;nbsp; Well, the process server shouts that he is delivering a suit, he offers to hand the papers (remember...BOTH the Summons and the Complaint) to the debtor, then he leaves them right outside the door, or in the door handle, &amp;nbsp;if the debtor refuses to open the door he just ran into.&amp;nbsp; That is sufficient.&amp;nbsp; In one case, the papers made it half way into the door as it was being slammed shut, the debtor grabbed them out of the door and threw them back at the process server.&amp;nbsp; Still good service according to the Michigan Court of Appeals.&amp;nbsp; &lt;em&gt;Barclay v Crown Building&lt;/em&gt; is one good example.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Michigan also allows service on an individual by certified mail if the delivery is restricted to a specifically identified person, and if that person signs for it and the receipt is produced.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;There are also a number of ways to obtain substituted service, but that requires a petition or motion be filed with the court, and court permission to so serve the papers...effective if direct service just isn't going to happen.&amp;nbsp; Frequently the plaintiff who started the suit will also petition the court for an extended Summons if the process server runs out of time, usually requiring an affidavit from the process server and other address verification such as a postal trace from the Post Office.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;What may seem easy, sometimes isn't.&amp;nbsp; Completing good service of a law suit is a prime example of that!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;This may come as a shock to some as this type of work is&amp;nbsp;frequently not considered to be debt collection.&amp;nbsp; The logic the Sixth Circuit used was that the foreclosure is basically a means to an end, and the end is to collect the amount owed on the note that accompanied the mortgage.&amp;nbsp; Assuming the&amp;nbsp;loan from the note secured by the property&amp;nbsp;foreclosed upon was used for personal,&amp;nbsp;family&amp;nbsp;or household use, the logic follows that the proceeds of the foreclosure action are being used to pay a consumer debt which is the heart and sole of the FDCPA...this case, of course from the context,&amp;nbsp;involved a&amp;nbsp;consumer debt&amp;nbsp;or, as the court called it: a home loan to a consumer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/afiXzjvRVss" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/1158319981043726059/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=1158319981043726059&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/1158319981043726059?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/1158319981043726059?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/afiXzjvRVss/fdcpa-update-mortgage-foreclosure-work.html" title="FDCPA update: Mortgage foreclosure work is debt collection" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2013/03/fdcpa-update-mortgage-foreclosure-work.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DUcEQno6eyp7ImA9WhBRFUU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-4349217294268263481</id><published>2013-03-06T11:23:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2013-03-06T11:23:23.413-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2013-03-06T11:23:23.413-05:00</app:edited><title>Michigan Law App for your i-phone</title><content type="html">&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;http://www.michigan.gov/documents/cis_ofis_ceilings_24956_7.pdf&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/RKTCgt0MCfw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/4349217294268263481/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=4349217294268263481&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/4349217294268263481?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/4349217294268263481?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/RKTCgt0MCfw/michigan-law-app-for-your-i-phone.html" title="Michigan Law App for your i-phone" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2013/03/michigan-law-app-for-your-i-phone.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DE8NQ384cSp7ImA9WhBRFUU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-7226114878563562211</id><published>2013-03-06T11:21:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2013-03-06T11:21:32.139-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2013-03-06T11:21:32.139-05:00</app:edited><title>A few comments on Michigan Collection practices</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Just a few quick comments on Michigan collections (I usually try to make comments in a generic fashion, applicable to most of our states) as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;1. MCL 600.2559 has been amended.&amp;nbsp; This has to do with court officer fees for service of process and related service charges.&amp;nbsp; For example, personal service of a suit is now $23.00 plus mileage; and service of a garnishment is $20.00 plus mileage.&amp;nbsp; Writs to seize assets: 7% of the first $8000 and 3% of amounts over that are owed to the officer; plus posting fees and other expenses (see .2559 (1).&amp;nbsp; The amended section calls for further fee increases each year in 2014 and 2015 as well.&amp;nbsp; These fee charges are all reasonable and necessary, but they are something attorneys working in enforcement of judgments should be aware of.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;2. Cool apps are available.&amp;nbsp; Check out MICHIGAN COURTS in the App Store for I-phones, I-pads and I Pod touch for powerful tools including State and Federal court rules, access to PACER and the like.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Try:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;http://www.michigan.gov/documents/cis_ofis_ceilings_24956_7.pdf&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/PT1feRVs_Pc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/7226114878563562211/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=7226114878563562211&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/7226114878563562211?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/7226114878563562211?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/PT1feRVs_Pc/a-few-comments-on-michigan-collection.html" title="A few comments on Michigan Collection practices" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2013/03/a-few-comments-on-michigan-collection.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;Ak4GRXs_fCp7ImA9WhBREUs.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-7147045414587352064</id><published>2013-03-01T15:12:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2013-03-01T15:15:24.544-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2013-03-01T15:15:24.544-05:00</app:edited><title>FDCPA defendant may recover costs against an unsuccessful plaintiff</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Good news for&amp;nbsp;collectors who are sued&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;unsuccessfully&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;by a plaintiff for violating the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA): the United States Supreme Court just ruled that the defendant in the case may recover costs against the unsuccessful plaintiff.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;The plaintiff in the case before the Supreme Court argued that costs could only be assessed against a plaintiff if the action was brought in "bad faith" as per Section 1692 k (a)(3) of the FDCPA.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;The Supreme Court said the bad faith requirement does NOT prevent a court from awarding costs against a plaintiff who brings a FDCPA claim, even if in good faith, if the suit is&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt; unsuccessful. A portion of the rather long opinion is attached here:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Courier New&amp;quot;, Courier, monospace;"&gt;Petitioner Marx filed suit, alleging that General Revenue Corporation (GRC) violated the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) by harassing and falsely threatening her in order to collect on a debt.The District Court ruled against Marx and awarded GRC costs pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure (FRCP) 54(d)(1), which gives district courts discretion to award costs to prevailing defendants“[u]nless a federal statute . . . provides otherwise.” Marx sought to vacate the award, arguing that the court’s discretion under Rule54(d)(1) was displaced by 15 U. S. C. §1692k(a)(3), which provides, in pertinent part, that “[o]n a finding by the court that an action under this section was brought in bad faith and for the purpose of harassment, the court may award to the defendant attorney’s fees reasonable in relation to the work expended and costs.” The District Court rejected Marx’s argument. The Tenth Circuit affirmed, in pertinent part, agreeing that costs are allowed under the Rule and concluding that nothing in the statute’s text, history, or purpose indicates that it was meant to displace the Rule.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Courier New&amp;quot;, Courier, monospace;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Courier New&amp;quot;, Courier, monospace;"&gt;Held: Section §1692k(a)(3) is not contrary to, and, thus, does not displace a district court’s discretion to award costs under, Rule 54(d)(1).Pp. 4–16.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Courier New&amp;quot;, Courier, monospace;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Courier New&amp;quot;, Courier, monospace;"&gt;(a) Rule 54(d)(1) gives courts discretion to award costs to prevailing parties, but this discretion can be displaced by a federal statute or FRCP that “provides otherwise,” i.e., is “contrary” to Rule 54(d)(1).Contrary to the argument of Marx and the United States, as amicus, language of the original 1937 version of the Rule does not suggest that any “express provision” for costs should displace Rule 54(d&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Courier New&amp;quot;, Courier, monospace;"&gt;....Congress did not intend §1692k(a)(3) to foreclose courts from awarding costs under the Rule&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/kq4F225IYmQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/7147045414587352064/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=7147045414587352064&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/7147045414587352064?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/7147045414587352064?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/kq4F225IYmQ/fdcpa-defendant-may-recover-costs.html" title="FDCPA defendant may recover costs against an unsuccessful plaintiff" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2013/03/fdcpa-defendant-may-recover-costs.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEQDRHszfip7ImA9WhBSGEU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-4935161068030186978</id><published>2013-02-26T08:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2013-02-26T08:46:15.586-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2013-02-26T08:46:15.586-05:00</app:edited><title>Collection Seminar: Thursday June 6, 2013</title><content type="html">&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;UPCOMING COLLECTION SEMINAR&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;will be recorded and available by CD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;We are pleased to announce a full day of discussion on collecting money from your delinquent accounts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;This seminar is geared for attorneys and is based upon written materials submitted by the speakers and my book, Handling the Collection Case in Michigan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.icle.org/modules/store/books/book.aspx?product_code=2003551710"&gt;Handling the Collection Case in Michigan, a detailed analysis of a collection case.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;The seminar, organized by the Michigan Institute for Continuing Legal Education, is a detailed look at many of the key collection topics, as per the day's agenda, printed below, and will be held at the beautiful INN AT ST. JOHN'S in Plymouth, MI on Thursday, June 6, 2013 (and available on CD thereafter).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Topics for the day:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Creditors’ Rights 2013&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;Thursday, June 6, 2013&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;The Inn at St. John’s, Plymouth&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;Steven A. Harms&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;Muller Muller Richmond Harms &amp;amp; Myers PC&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;Morning Session:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.&lt;br /&gt;
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The collection case from beginning to end, a complete discussion on the topics involved from negotiation before suit, right up through post judgment collection.&lt;br /&gt;
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Steven A. Harms and other speakers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Afternoon Session:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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1:30 p.m. – 5:30 p.m.&lt;br /&gt;
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1:30 p.m. – 2:00 p.m. How to Use a Garnishment Effectively&lt;br /&gt;
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• Practical tips for using garnishments effectively&lt;br /&gt;
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• The new 180-day rule&lt;br /&gt;
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• Using garnishment in insurance claims (e.g. fire)&lt;br /&gt;
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• Thinking beyond banks and wages- garnishing accounts receivable, lottery winnings, state of Michigan income tax refunds, insurance proceeds, rent income (rent payments), and more&lt;br /&gt;
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• Exceptions to garnishments: pension plans, child support, 401k, IRAs, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
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• Priority writs that affect your garnishment&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel E. Best &lt;br /&gt;
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Weltman Weinberg &amp;amp; Reis Co LPA &lt;br /&gt;
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2:00 p.m. – 3:00 p.m. The Nuts and Bolts of Asset Seizures (Execution Writs)&lt;br /&gt;
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• Process overview- how to get an order to seize property&lt;br /&gt;
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• Elements of an execution writ (and what forms to use)&lt;br /&gt;
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• Teamwork: court officer and attorney collaboration in asset seizures&lt;br /&gt;
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• The attorney’s role in information gathering for effective asset seizures&lt;br /&gt;
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• Court officer fees&lt;br /&gt;
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Steven A. Harms&lt;br /&gt;
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Muller Muller Richmond Harms &amp;amp; Myers PC&lt;br /&gt;
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Birmingham&lt;br /&gt;
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Jeff Kirkpatrick &lt;br /&gt;
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Court Services Agency &lt;br /&gt;
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3:00 p.m. – 3:15 p.m. Questions and Answers&lt;br /&gt;
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3:15 p.m. – 3:30 p.m. Networking Break&lt;br /&gt;
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3:30 p.m. – 4:15 p.m. Tips, Tricks, Traps and Trouble: Collecting Money and Avoiding Consumer Claims&lt;br /&gt;
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• Caselaw update: Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, Michigan Collection Practices Act, Fair Credit Reporting, and more&lt;br /&gt;
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• Latest filing trends and fact patterns &lt;br /&gt;
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• Best practices for collection law firms &lt;br /&gt;
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Charity A. Olson&lt;br /&gt;
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Olson Law Group&lt;br /&gt;
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Ann Arbor&lt;br /&gt;
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4:15 p.m. – 4:45 p.m. A Court’s Perspective on Attorney Fees and Costs&lt;br /&gt;
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• New cases on attorney fees and costs&lt;br /&gt;
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• Attorney fees as part of contract&lt;br /&gt;
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• What "reasonable attorney fees" means&lt;br /&gt;
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• Is a contingency fee a "reasonable attorney fee"?&lt;br /&gt;
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• Chargeable costs&lt;br /&gt;
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Hon. Dennis C. Drury&lt;br /&gt;
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52nd District Court&lt;br /&gt;
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4:45 p.m. – 5:15 p.m. Skip Tracing: Uncovering Debtors and Hidden Assets&lt;br /&gt;
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 Using subpoenas, credit reports, Internet resources, and public records together to locate assets&lt;br /&gt;
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 Skip tracing practice tips and advice&lt;br /&gt;
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 A practical approach to working with debtors&lt;br /&gt;
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 Commercial versus consumer skip tracing; constraints of FDCPA&lt;br /&gt;
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 Real property skip tracing&lt;br /&gt;
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 Skip tracing check sheet and its importance when conducting a creditor’s examination&lt;br /&gt;
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5:15 p.m. – 5:30 p.m. Questions and Answers&lt;br /&gt;
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Adjourn&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/TcaN-cyPSf4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/4935161068030186978/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=4935161068030186978&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/4935161068030186978?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/4935161068030186978?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/TcaN-cyPSf4/collection-seminar-thursday-june-6-2013.html" title="Collection Seminar: Thursday June 6, 2013" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j97vJtLIGjY/USy5gRM1uLI/AAAAAAAAADM/MhdU82HzocE/s72-c/Handling+the+collection+case+July+09.gif" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>Retreat Center St John&amp;#39;s, 44011 Five Mile Road, Plymouth, MI 48170, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>42.395767 -83.47819299999998</georss:point><georss:box>42.394301 -83.48071449999998 42.397233 -83.47567149999998</georss:box><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2013/02/collection-seminar-thursday-june-6-2013.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUEAR3w9eSp7ImA9WhBSFUk.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-7302742026434030981</id><published>2013-02-22T09:34:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2013-02-22T09:34:06.261-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2013-02-22T09:34:06.261-05:00</app:edited><title>Being a witness at a collection trial:  Common concerns</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rarely do collection cases go to trial.&amp;nbsp; That's a good thing because providing a witness, or being a witness is an inconvenience at best, and a real strain at worst (where the case is heavily disputed).&amp;nbsp; This discussion covers some of the common questions asked by&amp;nbsp; people who may have to testify at a collection trial.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How do I prepare to be a witness in a collection trial?&lt;/strong&gt; Preparation of a witness doesn’t have to be complicated. Let your witness know the facts and your theory of the case, and what you hope to prove in court. You should also walk the witness through what happens in court — that she or he be called to the witness stand, sworn in, questioned by your lawyer, then cross-examined by the other side. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Sometimes there will be redirect, asking some follow-up questions based on the cross-examination, and then the other side will re-cross. Then, in all likelihood, the witness will be excused with the instruction not to talk to other witnesses about the case before the litigation concludes. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;The witness should always speak freely, based on her own knowledge of the facts and circumstances, without a great deal of influence from anyone else. You should never give your witness a prepared speech or words to say. Most lawyers know funny stories about witnesses who were caught reciting memorized statements in court, or reading speeches they concealed in their clothing. But those stories aren’t funny at all to the party who lost the case when it became clear to the jury that the witness was reading or reciting somebody else’s words. It’s even OK if they have to answer: “I don’t know” to some questions...that’s normal. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;REMEMBER: Witnesses must be able to testify from their own recollection of what happened. That’s true even if the witness isn’t going to say exactly what you want to hear. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What if no one at our company has any personal knowledge of the collection issue? &lt;/strong&gt;When no one has personal knowledge, do the best you can to create a solid paper trail: a clear set of records and documents for your witness, so it appears that your company keeps clear and accurate records of transactions and events. With good preparation, a disorganized company can come across as highly organized. With poor preparation, even a scrupulous company can look like it doesn’t even know how to use a paper clip. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Sometimes you have to concede certain factual claims or issues because you don’t have a witness to testify in response to the defendant’s claims. If you discover that you have to concede is-sues that are very important to your case, it’s time to negotiate and to settle your case for the best amount you can get. The facts and circumstances are what they are, and it’s not always easy to make lemons into lemonade. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Do we always have to physically appear at the trial?&lt;/strong&gt; Sometimes when a witness can’t be physically present for trial, you can make arrangements to take testimony in advance, or to have him testify electronically. Under exceptional circumstances, it may be possible for a witness to testify at a hearing by remote communication such as by telephone or through videoconferencing. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Courts favor testimony that’s given live, in court. Other methods of presenting testimony are the exceptions to the standard rules, and may be available under only limited circumstances. Start with the expectation that the judge will insist that the witness appear in person. Don’t anticipate that you can present testimony by any other means unless you first confirm it with the court &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Can my deposition be used?&lt;/strong&gt; Sometimes a deposition or other form of sworn testimony can be preserved so that a witness doesn’t have to be physically in the courtroom or dispute resolution hearing to be heard. Generally speaking, you must make arrangements beforehand, based on the unavailability of the witness for a hearing, and give all parties the opportunity to participate in the examination and cross-examination of the witness. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/0_ZQxH9ipuE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/7302742026434030981/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=7302742026434030981&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/7302742026434030981?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/7302742026434030981?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/0_ZQxH9ipuE/being-witness-at-collection-trial.html" title="Being a witness at a collection trial:  Common concerns" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2013/02/being-witness-at-collection-trial.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEMHSHc7eip7ImA9WhBSE0U.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-7071876638730169124</id><published>2013-02-20T12:43:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2013-02-20T12:47:19.902-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2013-02-20T12:47:19.902-05:00</app:edited><title>A personal comment.... (with apologies to readers who expect substance, not fluff, so, after this, I'm back to substance)</title><content type="html">&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Today I break my cardinal rule of making this blog all about the facts and not&amp;nbsp; going on and on about personal stuff.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;nbsp;was overwhelmed with an award I received in Miami last month at the International Association of Commercial Collectors (IACC), and here is the write up in Scope, the official newsletter of IACC (Feb 2013, copyright held by IACC).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif;"&gt;The IACC Leadership and Distinguished Service Award recognizes an IACC member individual &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif;"&gt;who has given his or her time and energy to better the IACC and who has conducted his or her professional and personal life for the betterment of the commercial collection industry. This year we recognize and honor &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif;"&gt;an individual who exemplifies these qualities. Since becoming a member in 1988, Steve Harms, has been very active from the start. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif;"&gt;Over the past 25 years Harms has been instrumental in shaping, developing and perfecting the IACC’s training and educational programs. He has conducted numerous face-to-face seminars, presented many sessions at annual meetings and has taught well over a dozen teleseminars; and that is only for IACC. Harms also shares his knowledge by teaching as an adjunct professor at a top business college in Michigan and speaking for many associations across the country. And, if that’s not enough, he has also authored or co-authored (or contributing author)&amp;nbsp;no less than eight books on credit/collections/business.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif;"&gt;Beyond his dedication to improving IACC’s educational offerings, Harms has also given his time by serving on the board of directors of IACC for three terms, he has served on many committees over the years and continues to serve today.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/f8wnv-4vPRQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/7071876638730169124/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=7071876638730169124&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/7071876638730169124?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/7071876638730169124?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/f8wnv-4vPRQ/a-personal-comment-with-apologies-to.html" title="A personal comment.... (with apologies to readers who expect substance, not fluff, so, after this, I'm back to substance)" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2013/02/a-personal-comment-with-apologies-to.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUUAQHk9eip7ImA9WhBTEkk.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-6779100442884256354</id><published>2013-02-07T08:20:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2013-02-07T08:20:41.762-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2013-02-07T08:20:41.762-05:00</app:edited><title>Using the appropriate legal theories</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;After you figure out who you’re going to sue, you need to spend a bit of time thinking about your causes of action — the legal theories you’re going to present in your complaint for why the debtor owes you money.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Contract theories&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;The most common legal theories are based on principles of contract. Possible causes of action include:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;* Breach of contract: That is, you had a contract with the defendant, you fulfilled your side, she didn’t fulfill her obligations, and she owes you money.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;* Complaint on an account stated: In many states, you can file a special cause of action based on your final statement of account. You support your complaint with a copy of the statement of account and an affidavit attesting that the statement of account is accurate. This shifts the burden of proof to the defendant, and if the defendant doesn’t file a proper response disputing the debt, the court will issue a judgment in your favor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fraud&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;In simple terms, a claim of fraud alleges that the debtor made a false claim or representation to you, knowing that their claim was false and that you were acting in reliance upon that statement, and that as a result of your reliance you suffered an injury. Fraud involves more than a claim that the debtor said he was going to pay you but didn’t.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;For example, fraud may be alleged where a customer presents you with false bank statements, or a fraudulent letter of credit, making you believe that the customer is financially strong when in fact he has no resources and no intention of paying you, and he gets you to ship goods to him based on his false representations.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Suing owners of corporations&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Normally, the owners of an incorporated business are shielded from personal liability for corporate debts. However, corporate officers may be held personally liable to pay you under a number of different theories( but never on a contingency fee, well, almost never), including: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;* Undercapitalization&lt;/em&gt;: Not enough money was invested at the start to adequately finance the business, or the principals withdrew too much money from the business, resulting in its financial problems.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;* Commingling personal and corporate assets:&lt;/em&gt; No clear line exists between the personal assets of the owner and the assets of the business. For example, funds belonging to the business may be instead used for personal purposes, such as paying the college tuition of the owner’s children. Or the owner of a small corporation treats the corporate bank account as if it’s his private checking account, keeping his own money in the account and using it to pay household bills.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;* Piercing the corporate veil:&lt;/em&gt; Seeking to hold corporate officers personally liable as the result of extraordinary misconduct on the part of the officers. For example, you may allege:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;* The corporate entity is a mere instrumentality of another entity&lt;/em&gt; or individual. The corporation isn’t treated as a separate entity, following the required protocols (holding board meetings, keeping corporate records, and so on), but is instead an alter ego for its principals, who want to avoid personal responsibility for their questionable conduct.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;* The corporate entity was used to commit a fraud or a wrong&lt;/em&gt;. The primary purpose for the corporation’s creation was to further a wrongful act.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;* The corporate entity created an unjust loss or injury to your company.&lt;/em&gt; Courts have had difficulty articulating the circumstances under which unjust or inequitable conduct can justify piercing the corporate veil. Suffice it to say, it’s extremely rare.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Most states don’t have a clear standard governing when a corporate entity may be disregarded and the officers sued personally. However, no state makes it easy to pierce the corporate veil.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;It’s rare to be able to successfully allege undercapitalization or commingling, as in most cases you don’t have access to any information that would reveal undercapitalization or commingling of funds. Similarly, it’s very unusual to successfully pierce the corporate veil.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Foreclosure and recovery of property&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;If you’re foreclosing on a lien or mortgage, you may be able to choose between judicial and nonjudicial foreclosure. If your state’s laws require judicial foreclosure, or you believe you may benefit from judicial foreclosure, you file a foreclosure lawsuit. The procedures for filing a foreclosure suit are different in each state. Foreclosure lawsuits can be tricky, so consider getting help from a lawyer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;You may initiate litigation to recover items of property that are in the possession of the debtor. For example, if an invoice wasn’t paid, you may want to recover goods you have shipped to the debtor. Actions to recover physical property are sometimes called replevin actions when based on statute, or detinue actions when based on common law principles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Bad check actions&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;If your debtor has paid you with a bad check, you probably have a statutory claim for a civil penalty in addition to recovering the face value of the check. Some states also permit you to recover attorney fees.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;A typical lawsuit progresses as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;1. You select a court to file your lawsuit in. Select a court (several factors to consider, such as “home court advantage” and the FDCPA, plus statutory requirements such as real estate lien cases)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;2. You file legal pleadings, written documents formally stating a legal claim. Specifically, you file a summons and a complaint (along with the required filing fee) with the civil clerk.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;* The summons:&lt;/em&gt; The summons notifies the defendant that the you’re suing him and provides basic information such as the court location, court telephone, case number, and your name and phone number. It also states how much time the defendant has to file an answer to your complaint (typically 28 days).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;* The complaint:&lt;/em&gt; The complaint informs the defendant of your cause of action (your specific factual and legal claims) and concludes with a request for money damages. A collection complaint is often only three or four paragraphs long, particularly when a creditor is suing on an unpaid account. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;* The exhibits:&lt;/em&gt; You also attach relevant exhibits to the complaint, such as the invoices and a statement showing the outstanding balance, delivery receipts showing that the goods were delivered, and the credit application and any contract involved, especially if either one of those documents establishes your right to collect interest or the costs of collection.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;3. The civil clerk of the court issues the summons, filling in a case number and a few other details, and either returns it to you to serve on the defendant or turns it over to its own process server (a person authorized to serve court papers) to be formally served. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;4. After the defendant has been served, one of two things happens.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;* The defendant files an answer, placing the case at issue.&lt;/em&gt; The clerk then sets the matter for a hearing or&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;* The defendant doesn’t file an answer (or other acceptable response) with the court, and you ask the court to enter a default judgment in your favor&lt;/em&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;5. After the period for filing an appeal (usually 28 days) expires, the judgment becomes final, and you may proceed with postjudgment collections. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;If a defendant answers your complaint but is not amenable to settlement, you’ll have a trial followed by an entry of a judgment by the court. If you win, your judgment will describe the specific amount of money the defendant owes you and establish your legal right to collect that money from him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Furthermore, your judgment accrues interest at a rate defined by the laws of your state. Translation: The longer the defendant takes to pay, the more money you get. You have the opportunity to enforce the judgment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;At any point during the proceeding, you and the defendant can settle the case. You may agree to dismiss the case for a partial payment of what you believe the defendant owes, a full lump-sum payment, or an installment plan for payment. All courts encourage the parties to a lawsuit to resolve their differences without going to trial.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Include all your theories of recovery, and parties who are liable. The obvious: personal guarantors, general partners, sole proprietor…however, there are many more!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;When you file a lawsuit, include as defendants all people who may be responsible for paying the debt. Review your credit file for helpful information. It’s best to add all defendants at the beginning of a lawsuit, right when things get going, so that you can get them all served with copies of the lawsuit and reduce the chances for the litigation to drag out. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/73BPzoR61cs" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/7893928180257687310/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=7893928180257687310&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/7893928180257687310?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/7893928180257687310?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/73BPzoR61cs/collecting-your-money-through-suit.html" title="Collecting your money through suit:  Filing the collection law suit" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2013/01/collecting-your-money-through-suit.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkYBRH06cSp7ImA9WhNVEEQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-4236999052353120405</id><published>2012-12-21T08:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-12-21T08:55:55.319-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-12-21T08:55:55.319-05:00</app:edited><title>Collections: reviewing your case for a possible law suit!</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;I. Do you have a good case?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Every story has two sides. If you’re a parent, you know that to be a fact. Before you punish Johnny for hitting Susie, you have to hear from both kids so you can figure out exactly what happened. Even that may not be enough, but you’ll be closer to the truth than if you hear only one side of the story. Lawsuits (as well as alternative dispute resolution) work the same way — you state your side, the debtor states his side, and a judge or jury (or mediator or arbitrator) tries to sort out what really happened. So find out your debtor’s interpretation of the facts, and figure out your debtor’s theories as to why you shouldn’t be paid. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;You also need to assess your own case and determine whether it’s strong enough to win in either ADR or in court (we discuss both options in this chapter). Your evaluation of the evidence should include &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;* A review of any letters or other written communications exchanged with the debtor, and your notes on any comments made orally. (It’s very important to keep notes of all discussions with a debtor.) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;* An analysis of the debtor’s likely claims and defenses. Determine whether you have sufficient information, evidence, and documentation to counter what you expect the debtor to say. Don’t expect the judge or jury to simply take your word for what happened — you should be able to produce documents to support your position. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;* An objective evaluation of the data before you. It’s easy to take the position that you’re right, and therefore, you should win and the debtor should lose. Instead, step back and ask yourself whether the debtor may score some points with the judge or mediator based on your knowledge of or instinct about what the debtor’s going to say. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Sometimes it’s impossible to predict whether you’ll win a lawsuit. When you’re getting started, you’re more likely to choose to hire a lawyer or get a “reality check” from collections professionals you work with. Over time and with experience, your forecasting skills will sharpen, and you’ll become very good at assessing whether a particular case is strong enough to win. Just look at how accurate weather forecasting is, now that the weather folks have experience . . . okay, bad example. Fortunately, collections cases are less susceptible to chaos theory than weather predictions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;What if you don’t think you can win your lawsuit? You find problems with your documentation, you have a key witness quit and either become unavailable or too risky – such as an ex-employee with a grudge – or the debtor has strong defenses to your claims? Then you need to consider your options other than litigation, such as settling the case for whatever you can convince the debtor to pay, or writing off the debt. Generally speaking, it’s not a good plan to try to win in court despite your awareness of serious problems with your case.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;II. &amp;nbsp;Does the likely outcome justify the costs of suit?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Even if your claim is being handled on a contingency fee, there are costs to consider, the costs of suit, rarely less than $300, and the potential costs of providing documents along with any travel for hearings, trial etc. If, for example, your debtor has a disconnected phone, mail is returned and the like, well, minimal, if any, costs may be justified!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;*&amp;nbsp;Do you have the documents/witnesses? Invoices, delivery receipts, credit app (the agreement), ledger, etc….are they available? Is the witness who dealt with the debtor available or do you just have a “keeper of the records” person with no real knowledge.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;*&amp;nbsp;Statute of Limitations and other concerns. Sale of goods, 4 years, other contracts may be 6 years or longer, but look at the documents, find the date of last payment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;*&amp;nbsp;Some states are more expensive than others! Let’s say you have two accounts you plan on suing, only 20 miles apart, but in two different states..the costs for a suit, judgment and a writ of garnishment in one may be over $750.00 while the other state may only charge $250.00! I’m thinking of Pennsylvania and Ohio, but I’m sure there are many more examples. However, investing $500 or even $750 to collect a large account is almost always worth it if the debtor is reasonably believed to be collectable!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/Gnf92NMYK7M" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/4236999052353120405/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=4236999052353120405&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/4236999052353120405?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/4236999052353120405?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/Gnf92NMYK7M/collections-reviewing-your-case-for.html" title="Collections: reviewing your case for a possible law suit!" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2012/12/collections-reviewing-your-case-for.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEIFSXg9fip7ImA9WhJaFkQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-9174648023200001216</id><published>2012-10-08T07:41:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2012-10-08T07:41:58.666-04:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-10-08T07:41:58.666-04:00</app:edited><title>Collections in Michigan: Garnishment rules changed to allow wage garnishments to go 182 days!!</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Good news for collection attorneys and others dealing with various forms of "wage" garnishments (periodic garnishments of income). 2012 PA 304 was passed effective Sept. 25, 2012, changing periodic garnishments from 91 days to 182 days.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;The length garnishments last varies widely from state to state, and there are always political "pressures" to make changes.&amp;nbsp; Some states have banned garnishments on head of households altogether!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Well, in Michigan, we allow wage garnishments, and for years they were good for 91 days (that is, they had to be renewed every 3 months)....well, that has now been extended to 6 months, effective immediately.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;For the sale or leasing of goods, from staples to cars, the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) applies in all states.&amp;nbsp; It imposes a four year statute of limitations.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;However, on other contracts, we generally have a longer period of time (in Michigan, for example, we have six years) to bring suit after default or last payment made (that's a discussion in an of itself, for another time).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Well, a Michigan Court has just ruled that a credit card (this is a contract which should fall under the longer statute of limitations because it is NOT the sale or leasing of goods, per the UCC) does fall within the four year statute if it was USED to buy goods....this is not good logic...the court is wrong...none the less, that is the ruling!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;The court totally overlooked the fact that a credit card is essentially a banking relationship...one of borrowing money.&amp;nbsp; Regardless of what I use my card for, I'm borrowing money from the credit card company...that's the way I see it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Anyway, the Michigan court noted that Indiana and other states have adopted the concept that a credit card use to buy goods is governed by the four year statute under the UCC...so here I am...warning you to make a mental note that you may only have four years to bring an action on a credit card debt.&amp;nbsp; I may not agree with it, but I don't control the courts!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/ne3jQ7I2BJI" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/5148499277269989898/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=5148499277269989898&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/5148499277269989898?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/5148499277269989898?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/ne3jQ7I2BJI/collecting-money-how-much-time-do-we.html" title="Collecting Money:  How much time do we have (statute of limitations)?" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2012/07/collecting-money-how-much-time-do-we.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkAGRXg6fSp7ImA9WhVbF08.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-1196464734090003046</id><published>2012-06-03T09:05:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2012-06-03T09:05:24.615-04:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-06-03T09:05:24.615-04:00</app:edited><title>Does "debt collector" include a creditor/loan servicer?</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;An account was assigned for collection to a loan servicing company.&amp;nbsp; The loan was not in default at the time of the assignment.&amp;nbsp; So, the servicing company can't be a "debt collector" under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, right?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Well, if the non-debt originating&amp;nbsp;loan company takes the assignment believing the debt was actually delinquent, and starts an aggressive collection campaign against the debtor and her family, then the assignment is deemed to be that of a delinquent debt, and the loan servicing company is deemed to be a debt collector.&amp;nbsp; Also, since the FDCPA protects any person, the non-debtor family member (her husband) also gets to sue as a plaintiff!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Bridge v Ocwen was just heard in the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in Ohio, so has national implications as a federal case.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/U0p9i6Q3BSA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/1196464734090003046/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=1196464734090003046&amp;isPopup=true" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/1196464734090003046?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/1196464734090003046?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/U0p9i6Q3BSA/does-debt-collector-include.html" title="Does &quot;debt collector&quot; include a creditor/loan servicer?" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2012/06/does-debt-collector-include.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkMCR3szfCp7ImA9WhVWEkw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-2006821794338283952</id><published>2012-04-23T16:54:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2012-04-23T16:54:26.584-04:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-04-23T16:54:26.584-04:00</app:edited><title>Contracts: signatures may be done by computer, email, fax!</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Sometimes there is a challenge from a customer who refuses to pay a bill that: "You can't collect from me because I didn't properly sign a contract with you."&amp;nbsp; Well, first of all, not all contracts need to be in writing in the first place (millions of dollars of goods are purchased daily on&amp;nbsp;phone call agreements).&amp;nbsp;Further, goods received by a customer, which aren't returned timely are ACCEPTED and the deal has been RATIFIED...which makes for a valid deal even without a contract.&amp;nbsp; On the other hand, perhaps you DO have a valid signed contract: only the customer (debtor) signed electronically!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Electronic signatures, such as confirming emails or click-ons ("I agree") or similar buttons are valid means of entering into contracts which are binding, and which will be upheld in court.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;There are two main laws dealing with the topic of electronic signatures, the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (E-SIGN) and the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act (UETA). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;E-Sign is a federal act enacted 10/1/2000 providing that no contract be “denied legal” effect solely because it is in electronic form. In other words, an electronic signature may be just as enforceable as a written one. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;UETA is a state act enacted in 1999 to create uniformity in state laws pertaining to e-commerce. This act is very similar to E-SIGN in that it establishes that “records, signatures, and contracts may not be denied enforceability solely due to their electronic form.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;The state law, UETA, is a uniform act, which, like the UCC, has been adopted in some form by most states…Michigan has adopted it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Now, what is important is that both sides agree to the use of electronic signatures and that there be a way to prove the customer/debtor did consent….for example, client should require debtor to email back, or have a click on button “I agree” or something similar. IF information is merely AVAILABLE online, that won’t be adequate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Most states also have restrictions on what contracts can be made or cancelled with e-sign…for example, insurance companies still have to mail out written cancellations of policies even if the contracts to purchase insurance were done by e-sign.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;There are cases at the appeal level which have upheld the validity of e-sign by email and click on agreements.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Then, there is the practical, as opposed to legal, factor: some judges aren’t in the 20th Century!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/FqRXE7jSOwo" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/2006821794338283952/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=2006821794338283952&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/2006821794338283952?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/2006821794338283952?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/FqRXE7jSOwo/contracts-signatures-may-be-done-by.html" title="Contracts: signatures may be done by computer, email, fax!" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2012/04/contracts-signatures-may-be-done-by.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;Ak8NRn0zfip7ImA9WhVSEE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-8401560512130415821</id><published>2012-03-06T08:01:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-03-06T08:01:37.386-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-03-06T08:01:37.386-05:00</app:edited><title>COLLECTING FROM BUSINESS ENTITIES:  When is the owner personally liable for the debt?</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Collection of commercial account can be tricky from the standpoint of WHO you can actually demand the money FROM…in other words, when is there PERSONAL LIABILITY FOR THE ACCOUNT. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;A proprietorship is a simple form of business involving a single owner who has the business in his own name. An example is John Jones dba Jones Bike Shop. This form of business may not even be registered. Occasionally, you find the business is registered under the assumed name or fictitious name county filings in the county where the business is operated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;A partnership is a little bit more complicated but similar to a proprietorship with more people. The general partners are the owners, and, like a proprietorship, they are personally responsible for all debts incurred by the business. An example would be John Smith and Mary Smith dba Smith’s Bike Shop. A fictitious or assumed name certificate may be filed in the county. A certificate of a partnership may be filed in the county or even with the state in some states. Some states have lookup documents where you can lookup to see if a business is registered as a partnership.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;A partnership can get a little bit more technical if you get into the concept of limited partnership. In this instance, there are two different kinds of partners: a general partner and a limited partner. The general partner is personally responsible for all debts and the limited partner is like a shareholder of a corporation; that person has invested money and is only liable to creditors for the amount of his investment. For example, if the limited partner invests $10,000.00 and that $10,000.00 is fully paid in, then the limited partner is not exposed for any other liability. Limited partners generally are not active in the business and are really prevented from being active in the business. The general partners are generally active in the business, responsible for day to day activities, and, again, are liable for contracts the business enters into. There must be at least one general partner and one limited partner. Partnerships can even consist of corporations, which form partnerships. Sometimes these are also formed as joint ventures. A joint venture is different because it is formed for just one limited purpose such as to run an event for a weekend or something like that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Corporations of course are very familiar to all of us. There are formalities. They must be filed and they must be maintained. If they are not maintained, corporations are dissolved automatically by the state they are in generally after three years.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;The whole point of a corporation is that there is no personal liability for their owners. However, there can be personal liability if they sign personal guarantees or if there is a theory for piercing the corporate veil.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Corporations are on file with the state. They can generally be confirmed through a telephone number or on line access.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Each state has its own corporation law, partnership law but most states have adopted the Uniform Partnership Act so partnership enforcement is consistent and also most states, or at least 75% of the states, have adopted the Model Business Corporation Law which is also uniform.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Like the Uniform Commercial Code, these are all laws adopted in individual states. None of these are federal laws. However, there is remarkable uniformity throughout the country.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Question: Who is liable with regard to these legal entities and who can we cask to pay us when we make our demand?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Answer: This is a very good question and probably should be broken down as follows: those legal entities which we call and can remind the owners that they are personally obligated and those business debtors we call knowing that there is only business liability.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;First, the entities with personal liability:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;1. Proprietorship. If the business is John Jones dba Jones Bike Shop or anything similar, John Jones is personally liable. The bike shop could have folded but Jones’ personal assets are still exposed to you, the creditor. You can threaten to sue him personally. You can threaten to sue him and take his personal assets as part of that process (this should all be done professionally as you know). There is full personal liability and a sole proprietor cannot escape that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;2. General Partners of a Partnership are personally liable the same way sold proprietors are. You can remind them when you make your collection calls that they will be held personally liable for contracts and that their personal assets are “on he line”. Of course, this is not true with regard to limited partners.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;3. Corporations involved no personal liability with a few exceptions: check your client’s documents carefully to see if there are any personal guarantees which would make those individuals (generally top officers) personally liable for business debts. The guarantees may even contain some restrictive provisions such as a limitation in dollar amount or a limitation of time. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;There are a few other ways that corporate officers or directors could be personally liable for debts but when making demand over the phone, I would not go into it. In other words, you may be considering a theory of piercing the corporation veil because there was some fraud or concealment or whatever. After checking with an attorney experienced in that area, you could probably make such a demand but otherwise, I would stay away from it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;A corporation, which has expired, and the debt was incurred after the expiration date is a potential basis for personal liability. I use the word “potential” because the corporation can re-file itself and erase the personal liability. That can happen any time up until the entry of judgment in most states. Let'’ take an example so that this concept is clear; Fred Jones owns Jones Corporation. He files the corporation but fails to file annual reports. After three years, Jones Corporation is dissolved. The disillusion (that is what it is called) occurs for purposes of this example on August 1, 2001. On September 1, 2001, he buys $10,000.00 worth of product from your client. At the time the produce is purchased, the corporation is technically defunct, dissolved, does not exist legally. He can use some theory such as “de facto” or “de jure” if he knows the lingo but you can also remind him that your client is prepared to litigate on the basis of personal liability since the corporation was dissolved at the time the purchases were made. There was no corporate entity at that time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Likewise, some debt can be incurred prior to the corporation being formed. This is called “promoter liability”. If for example, John Jones owned a Jones Corporation but he incurred some debt from your client prior to the corporation actually being formed with the state (it is very easy to determine the incorporation date by calling the state) then he is personally liable to you as a promoter of the corporation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/qZyZ-c-RqAc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/8401560512130415821/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=8401560512130415821&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/8401560512130415821?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/8401560512130415821?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/qZyZ-c-RqAc/collecting-from-business-entities-when.html" title="COLLECTING FROM BUSINESS ENTITIES:  When is the owner personally liable for the debt?" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2012/03/collecting-from-business-entities-when.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEMDSXw-fyp7ImA9WhVTGUg.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-6562564976951837866</id><published>2012-03-05T09:07:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-03-05T09:07:58.257-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-03-05T09:07:58.257-05:00</app:edited><title>Collection Scam Artists...they're even contacting consumers on fake debts!</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;The Federal Trade Commission governs much of our industry, and handles numerous complaints from consumers on such matters as Fair Debt Collection Practices Act violations. The newest scam appears to be the hiring or creation of call centers made&amp;nbsp;up of fake debt collectors&amp;nbsp;to make strong-arm collection calls on fake debts!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Yes, scam artists have figured out that if you harass someone enough, they might just pay a debt that doesn't even exist...just to get the "debt collector" off their back!&amp;nbsp; The FTC offices are referring to this scam as phantom debt.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;A number of consumers have already admitted to paying&amp;nbsp;hundreds of dollars by check and even credit cards,&amp;nbsp;to get rid of&amp;nbsp;"collectors."&amp;nbsp;These consumers paid these fake debts as&amp;nbsp;they&amp;nbsp;were worried the fake collectors really would follow up with threats to have them&amp;nbsp; fired, garnished, arrested at work, or, they thought they may really owe the money from some pay check advance or similar situation they simply forgot about.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;For those of us who are involved in legitimate collections,&amp;nbsp;knowing&amp;nbsp;that intentional&amp;nbsp;violators of the FDCPA exist&amp;nbsp;is bad enough. Now we find that scam artists have invaded our industry&amp;nbsp;and are&amp;nbsp;making collection demands on debts that don't exist to&amp;nbsp;get money&amp;nbsp;from innocent people.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;According to a recent article in the Detroit Free Press (freepress.com), some callers are demanding as much as $2,000 from consumers, under threats of wage garnishments, having&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;consumer arrested at work and the like.&amp;nbsp; The scam artists seem to have quite a bit of information on the people they are calling. Since one crooked debt collection firm took in $5 million, the&amp;nbsp;scam obviously works.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;I firmly believe anyone reading this blog is an honest debt collector just trying to collect on legit debts using legal means....however,&amp;nbsp;we can't put&amp;nbsp;our collective heads in the sand...we have to be aware of these illegal practices.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/jcPQN5vObng" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/6562564976951837866/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=6562564976951837866&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/6562564976951837866?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/6562564976951837866?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/jcPQN5vObng/collection-scam-artiststheyre-even.html" title="Collection Scam Artists...they're even contacting consumers on fake debts!" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2012/03/collection-scam-artiststheyre-even.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUIEQHY6eSp7ImA9WhRbF0Q.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-2948254159250131604</id><published>2012-02-09T08:18:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-02-09T08:18:21.811-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-02-09T08:18:21.811-05:00</app:edited><title>Collections of student loans: are we facing a debt bomb?</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Student loans amount to about $1 trillion in outstanding debt, and many students are finding they just can't afford to pay them off!&amp;nbsp; A number of sources (just Google "student loan debt bomb") are reporting the default rate on student loans could be the next debt bomb, like mortgage defaults and foreclosures.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Although collectors have take solice in the fact that most student loans are not discharged in bankruptcy of the student, there is a hardship exception, which may be used.&amp;nbsp; Will bankruptcies with hardhip applications be the norm rather than the occasional exception to the rule?&amp;nbsp; That is the talk on the street.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;There is talk of federal legislation to allow for a discharge of student loan debt following a five year "good faith" window of opportunity, but that is not likely to pass right now. (H.R. 2028 and S. 1102 are proposed changes to private loan discharges, but neither restore discharge for federal student loans).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/QUDZg9hpAT8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/2948254159250131604/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=2948254159250131604&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/2948254159250131604?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/2948254159250131604?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/QUDZg9hpAT8/collections-of-student-loans-are-we.html" title="Collections of student loans: are we facing a debt bomb?" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2012/02/collections-of-student-loans-are-we.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;D0EMRHw7eyp7ImA9WhRbEEw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-2650822153023458985</id><published>2012-01-31T08:14:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-31T08:14:45.203-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-01-31T08:14:45.203-05:00</app:edited><title>Collecting Accounts Beyond the Statute of Limitations</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;A cautionary note:&amp;nbsp; I suggest you Google or otherwise read about the $2.5 million dollar fine imposed on a Michigan debt buyer for failing to tell consumers that on debt past the statute of limitations, the debt is revived by a payment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Clearly, payment on debts beyond the statute of limitations can be demanded as the money is still due.&amp;nbsp; However, these debts can't be sued on, because each state imposes a statute of limitations, which is simply a "drop dead date" for bringing a collection suit in the courts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Apparently, and the upshot as of this minute is a bit unclear, collectors CAN demand payment on old debt as long as the consumer paying it is told the debt is beyond the statute of limitations in that state, that a payment will revive that statute, and suit can be brought if a payment is made.&amp;nbsp; Also, some of the articles today on the Internet suggest the debt collector may be limited in reporting the debt to credit reporting agencies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;If you collect past due accounts, which are beyond the statute of limitations, check this out and comply with any new/existing requirements to avoid being charged by the Federal Trade Commission.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;By the way, the Michigan debt buyer settled without any admissions of the FTC claims according to articles on the topic....the point of this blog is NOT to toss any&amp;nbsp;stones at this business (which is why I didn't even name the company mentioned in the article), but rather to educate readers of the potential issue the FTC may raise with collections on older accounts, typically consumer accounts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/Ay-RPTkKtLM" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/2650822153023458985/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=2650822153023458985&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/2650822153023458985?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/2650822153023458985?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/Ay-RPTkKtLM/collecting-accounts-beyond-statute-of.html" title="Collecting Accounts Beyond the Statute of Limitations" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2012/01/collecting-accounts-beyond-statute-of.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;Ak8ARnk5eCp7ImA9WhRUGUg.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-8254820117967078722</id><published>2012-01-30T16:27:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-30T16:27:27.720-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-01-30T16:27:27.720-05:00</app:edited><title>Collections: MERS update</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;On Tuesday, May 3rd of 2011 I posted a blog discussion on MERS, the mortgagee created to quickly file mortgages, but not the holder of the note (the debt).&amp;nbsp; The discussion was to the effect that the Court of Appeals held the mortgage foreclosures by advertisement had to stop and that there were serious issues to be dealt with because the note holder and mortgage holder were different entities.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Well, getting right to the bottom line, and not getting caught up in the many technicalities on this whole issue, the Michigan Supreme Court has now ruled that the Court of Appeals was wrong.&amp;nbsp; So, we are back to business as usual here in Michigan in terms of foreclosures, and there apparently is no legal problem with the MERS filing system and the mortgage foreclosures....I suppose good news for the banks and perhaps bad news for the home owners.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;If you are a legal beagle and want to read more about the case, check out or Google Saurman at 805 NW2nd (that's Northwestern Reporter, 2nd) at page 183. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/v-nHpUwZLS8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/8254820117967078722/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=8254820117967078722&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/8254820117967078722?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/8254820117967078722?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/v-nHpUwZLS8/collections-mers-update.html" title="Collections: MERS update" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2012/01/collections-mers-update.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CU4HQ38zcCp7ImA9WhRUFE8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-2222626367005779812</id><published>2012-01-24T11:52:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-24T11:52:12.188-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-01-24T11:52:12.188-05:00</app:edited><title>Collecting Money: Avoiding Stall Tactics</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Debtors (people or companies which owe money to creditors) love to stall payment, anyway they can!&amp;nbsp; The more they stall, the longer they can hold on to their money, or, the longer they can use YOUR money to pay for other things.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;One strategy to avoid the&amp;nbsp;stall tactic&amp;nbsp;is to try&amp;nbsp;to find out what portion of the debt is allegedly &lt;em&gt;disputed&lt;/em&gt; (the stall tactic).&amp;nbsp; Then, get the debtor to pay the &lt;em&gt;undisputed portion&lt;/em&gt; of the claim. Your logic to the debtor is simple: “show your good faith to our client by paying the undisputed portion of this account, that way our client will take your claims/objections more seriously and we can actually resolve them”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Keep in mind that the debtor wants to make the matter as &lt;em&gt;complicated &lt;/em&gt;as possible. This is an excellent &lt;em&gt;stall tactic&lt;/em&gt; used to confuse&amp;nbsp;many debt collectors. If the debtor can convince the collector that this is a complicated, fuzzy, hugely disputed matter, the creditor is more likely to let the debtor get away with a stall. The collector might even let the debtor go an additional 30 or 45 days after the last communication, not wanting to deal with these stalling tactics!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Again, make the file as clear as possible by defining the undisputed portion, and then focusing in on the actual issues as to the disputed portion of the claim including information such as the invoice numbers, or the description of the goods which are disputed. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Once you know exactly what is in dispute, obtain the necessary documents to "prove" your case (invoices and the like).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Documents will include invoices and delivery receipts but also call notes made by in-house credit people, scraps of paper written in handwriting, e-mails, faxes, etc. Obviously, if you can find a piece of paper where the debtor admitted that they were going to pay all or even a portion of the account, you have struck gold! The best clients for collection attorneys like me&amp;nbsp;are those clients who keep things in writing, particularly when an account is disputed. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;A good credit manager, even on a disputed account, would write something to the debtor like “per our conversation today, we agreed to work on invoice #123 for $1,000.00 but you agreed, in the meanwhile, to pay off the remaining balance of $1,500.00 on the other invoices which are not disputed”. Obviously, a document like that is a piece of gold to you and to your attorney if the case actually goes on to be sued. Any written admission of the debt is a very, very substantial piece of evidence in your favor!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;If the case does go on to suit, please note that all documents should be sent onto the attorney particularly “key” documents such as personal guarantees, contracts, credit applications, invoices, delivery receipts and related documents. Yes, even a credit application is extremely important. It can tell you and the attorney where the debtor banks and other very helpful information. Sometimes there is a question that you might not even anticipate such as what the legal composition of the debtor is. The credit application should clear that up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/mz9fWr2yggQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/2222626367005779812/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=2222626367005779812&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/2222626367005779812?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/2222626367005779812?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/mz9fWr2yggQ/collecting-money-avoiding-stall-tactics.html" title="Collecting Money: Avoiding Stall Tactics" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2012/01/collecting-money-avoiding-stall-tactics.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkUMR3g_fSp7ImA9WhRQF0U.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-1286765940917117127</id><published>2011-12-13T08:51:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-13T08:51:26.645-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2011-12-13T08:51:26.645-05:00</app:edited><title>Collections in difficult situations</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Collections proceed forward, even in situations where the backup paperwork is a bit lacking….in other words, we live in a real world and our file is not always perfect. Do we just close the file out, even though there is a past due balance from our debtor? No, we gather what we can and proceed with collections…consider the following advice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Gather your file, even if it is in electronic form to decide the best action to take when the debtor is challenging the account as having:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;• Inaccuracies in billing practices such as double billings. Examine invoicing to determine if you are able to meet debtor’s challenges head on, or whether it is time to back down a bit and settle for less.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;• Gaps in time, making your bookkeeping appear disorganized and sloppy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;• Lacking in having a contract to support the invoices.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;• Lacking in any contract terms which would justify the charging of interest or late fees which appear on your invoices.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;• Lacking in a purchase order matching up to the invoices.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;• Inconsistencies in the statements of account from the invoices.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;• Missing change orders in support of invoices for extras.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;• Lacking in e-mail or other formats of replies to debtor letters or e-mails making claims of problems (written communications citing problems should have responses to avoid the appearance you ignored the problems).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Collection cases lacking in good paperwork may progress as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;1. Make demand on the debtor for immediate payment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;2. Listen to the debtor dispute the amount claimed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;3. Respond to debtor’s claims as best as possible while remaining vague regarding backup paperwork.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;4. Should debtor persist that no payment will be made without a review of paperwork he believes you possess, reconsider your position and realize you will not prevail if you go to court with the lack of paperwork.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;5. Negotiate with a new game plan: to obtain the best possible settlement.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Poker players develop a feel for when to hold ‘em and when to fold’em. Collection work can be very similar, particularly when you don’t have a good hand…you lack good backup paperwork.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Collections-Dummies-Business-Personal-Finance/dp/0470465956/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1323784157&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;See Credit and Collections Kit For Dummies for many more tips!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~4/eT1D-jJ1H2Q" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/feeds/1286765940917117127/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3216504137624758947&amp;postID=1286765940917117127&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/1286765940917117127?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3216504137624758947/posts/default/1286765940917117127?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SteveHarms-CreditAndCollections/~3/eT1D-jJ1H2Q/collections-in-difficult-situations.html" title="Collections in difficult situations" /><author><name>Steve Harms</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07388066359985769948</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="26" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i7SOFqMwiCY/TUhF9DQp83I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/pfSVFQD-uA8/s220/Credit%2Band%2BCollections%2BKit%2Bfor%2BDummies%2Bimage.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://steveharms-creditandcollections.blogspot.com/2011/12/collections-in-difficult-situations.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;D0IMQH4yfip7ImA9WhRQEEQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3216504137624758947.post-4504250591829934032</id><published>2011-12-05T09:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-05T09:33:01.096-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2011-12-05T09:33:01.096-05:00</app:edited><title>Collections:  Does it matter who or what the debtor is?</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Yes, it matters who or what the debtor is.&amp;nbsp; If your debtor is an individual, you certainly want to make sure to have the correct person to pursue.&amp;nbsp; For example, a city may have 20 persons named "Tom Smith"...you need to verify you have the correct one!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;This applies to commercial collections as well, as the debtor is a legal entity, and it must be identified.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Therefore, in matters of commercial claims, it is important to know what legal entity the client did business with.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Question: What is a “legal entity” and why is that concept important to me as a collector?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Answer: Legal entity is the term, which describes the business formation of a company. The most common legal entities are proprietorship, partnership, and corporation. These entities are very significant for the collector as more fully described in the question which follows this one.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;A proprietorship is a simple form of business involving a single owner who has the business in his own name. An example is John Jones dba Jones Bike Shop. This form of business may not even be registered. Occasionally, you find the business is registered under the assumed name or fictitious name county filings in the county where the business is operated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;A partnership is a little bit more complicated but similar to a proprietorship with more people. The general partners are the owners, and, like a proprietorship, they are personally responsible for all debts incurred by the business. An example would be John Smith and Mary Smith dba Smith’s Bike Shop. A fictitious or assumed name certificate may be filed in the county. A certificate of a partnership may be filed in the county or even with the state in some states. Some states have lookup documents where you can lookup to see if a business is registered as a partnership.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;A partnership can get a little bit more technical if you get into the concept of limited partnership. In this instance, there are two different kinds of partners: a general partner and a limited partner. The general partner is personally responsible for all debts and the limited partner is like a shareholder of a corporation; that person has invested money and is only liable to creditors for the amount of his investment. For example, if the limited partner invests $10,000.00 and that $10,000.00 is fully paid in, then the limited partner is not exposed for any other liability. Limited partners generally are not active in the business and are really prevented from being active in the business. The general partners are generally active in the business, responsible for day to day activities, and, again, are liable for contracts the business enters into. There must be at least one general partner and one limited partner. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Partnerships can even consist of corporations, which form partnerships. Sometimes these are also formed as joint ventures. A joint venture is different because it is formed for just one limited purpose such as to run an event for a weekend or something like that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Corporations of course are very familiar to all of us. There are formalities. They must be filed and they must be maintained. If they are not maintained, corporations are dissolved automatically by the state they are in generally after three years.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;The whole point of a corporation is that there is no personal liability for their owners. However, there can be personal liability if they sign personal guarantees or if there is a theory for piercing the corporate veil.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Corporations are on file with the state. They can generally be confirmed through a telephone number or on line access.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Each state has its own corporation law, partnership law but most states have adopted the Uniform Partnership Act so partnership enforcement is consistent and also most states, or at least 75% of the states, have adopted the Model Business Corporation Law which is also uniform.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Like the Uniform Commercial Code, these are all laws adopted in individual states. None of these are federal laws. However, there is remarkable uniformity throughout the country.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Question: Who is liable with regard to these legal entities and who can we cask to pay us when we make our demand?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Answer: This is a very good question and probably should be broken down as&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;follows: those legal entities which we call and can remind the owners that they are personally obligated and those business debtors we call knowing that there is only business liability.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;First, the entities with personal liability:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;1. Proprietorship. If the business is John Jones dba Jones Bike Shop or anything similar, John Jones is personally liable. The bike shop could have folded but Jones’ personal assets are still exposed to you, the creditor. You can threaten to sue him personally. You can threaten to sue him and take his personal assets as part of that process (this should all be done professionally as you know). There is full personal liability and a sole proprietor cannot escape that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;2. General Partners of a Partnership are personally liable the same way sold proprietors are. You can remind them when you make your collection calls that they will be held personally liable for contracts and that their personal assets are “on he line”. Of course, this is not true with regard to limited partners.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;3. Corporations involved no personal liability with a few exceptions: check your client’s documents carefully to see if there are any personal guarantees which would make those individuals (generally top officers) personally liable for business debts. The guarantees may even contain some restrictive provisions such as a limitation in dollar amount or a limitation of time. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;There are a few other ways that corporate officers or directors could be personally liable for debts but when making demand over the phone, I would not go into it. In other words, you may be considering a theory of piercing the corporation veil because there was some fraud or concealment or whatever. After checking with an attorney experienced in that area, you could probably make such a demand but otherwise, I would stay away from it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;A corporation, which has expired, and the debt was incurred after the expiration date is a potential basis for personal liability. I use the word “potential” because the corporation can re-file itself and erase the personal liability. That can happen any time up until the entry of judgment in most states. Let'’ take an example so that this concept is clear; Fred Jones owns Jones Corporation. He files the corporation but fails to file annual reports. After three years, Jones Corporation is dissolved. The disillusion (that is what it is called) occurs for purposes of this example on August 1, 2001. On September 1, 2001, he buys $10,000.00 worth of product from your client. At the time the produce is purchased, the corporation is technically defunct, dissolved, does not exist legally. He can use some theory such as “de facto” or “de jure” if he knows the lingo but you can also remind him that your client is prepared to litigate on the basis of personal liability since the corporation was dissolved at the time the purchases were made. There was no corporate entity at that time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;Likewise, some debt can be incurred prior to the corporation being formed. This is called “promoter liability”. If for example, John Jones owned a Jones Corporation but he incurred some debt from your client prior to the corporation actually being formed with the state (it is very easy to determine the incorporation date by calling the state) then he is personally liable to you as a promoter of the corporation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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