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		<title>Comment on IN-District Convention – A view from the floor by jim_claybourn</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim_claybourn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also posted the following comment on the BJS site:

Good report, Glen. The only thing that I would add would be the sense of urgency that both Dr Kieschnick and VP Greene tried to convey. Right out of the Rahm/Obama playbook. Never let a {perceived} crisis go to waste!

We were told that we had to do something NOW, with both (a)ABLAZE and (b)the BRTFSSG proposals, else it might be too late to save (a)souls and (b)Synod.

IRT resolution 1-06, I did speak with Pr Robinson (District Outreach Executive), who developed the district revitalizing process. It sounded pretty solid and Bible-based to me, unlike what I’ve read of the TCN process. I wish Pr Robinson could have responded to some of Pr Albers concerns at the time they came up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also posted the following comment on the BJS site:</p>
<p>Good report, Glen. The only thing that I would add would be the sense of urgency that both Dr Kieschnick and VP Greene tried to convey. Right out of the Rahm/Obama playbook. Never let a {perceived} crisis go to waste!</p>
<p>We were told that we had to do something NOW, with both (a)ABLAZE and (b)the BRTFSSG proposals, else it might be too late to save (a)souls and (b)Synod.</p>
<p>IRT resolution 1-06, I did speak with Pr Robinson (District Outreach Executive), who developed the district revitalizing process. It sounded pretty solid and Bible-based to me, unlike what I’ve read of the TCN process. I wish Pr Robinson could have responded to some of Pr Albers concerns at the time they came up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Any thoughts on ALPHA? by Theresa K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a number of good critiques of the Alpha Curriculum, begun by Nicky Gumbel.  It has no place in any solid sacramental church, Lutheran or otherwise.  I would not wish to see it remade into a Lutheran form.  For an overview of Christian principles, Luther's Small Catechism does a much better job.  The Book of Concord would also be great, for those who want more in-depth reading.  Sure, there's no catchy cartoons or free suppers, but lots of truth!

Links: 
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/alpha.html
http://www.pfo.org/alpha-cr.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a number of good critiques of the Alpha Curriculum, begun by Nicky Gumbel.  It has no place in any solid sacramental church, Lutheran or otherwise.  I would not wish to see it remade into a Lutheran form.  For an overview of Christian principles, Luther&#8217;s Small Catechism does a much better job.  The Book of Concord would also be great, for those who want more in-depth reading.  Sure, there&#8217;s no catchy cartoons or free suppers, but lots of truth!</p>
<p>Links:<br />
<a href="http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/alpha.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/alpha.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.pfo.org/alpha-cr.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pfo.org/alpha-cr.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Any thoughts on ALPHA? by Theresa K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two main problems I see with it are: 1.  It is based on decision theology.  2.  It was originally designed for non-Christians with little to no understanding of Christianity.    

The Alpha Curriculum was one of the deciding factor for our family leaving the ELCA.  It had been in our old church for years.  The year before we left, it was given to me to use as THE catechismal text for my group of catechumen. (yes, the program was parent-led) The lessons were mind-blowingly simple for kids raised in a Christian church (Who is God, What is Jesus, Who is the Holy Spirit). When I asked the director when we would begin instruction using Luther's Small Catechism, she informed me that it had been dropped due to PARENTS complaining that their kids were bored with it.  I recently learned that, 15 years later, it was added back to the confirmation program; good news until you stop to consider that the church had confirmed a generation of kids who were not taught Luther's Small Catechism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two main problems I see with it are: 1.  It is based on decision theology.  2.  It was originally designed for non-Christians with little to no understanding of Christianity.    </p>
<p>The Alpha Curriculum was one of the deciding factor for our family leaving the ELCA.  It had been in our old church for years.  The year before we left, it was given to me to use as THE catechismal text for my group of catechumen. (yes, the program was parent-led) The lessons were mind-blowingly simple for kids raised in a Christian church (Who is God, What is Jesus, Who is the Holy Spirit). When I asked the director when we would begin instruction using Luther&#8217;s Small Catechism, she informed me that it had been dropped due to PARENTS complaining that their kids were bored with it.  I recently learned that, 15 years later, it was added back to the confirmation program; good news until you stop to consider that the church had confirmed a generation of kids who were not taught Luther&#8217;s Small Catechism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IN-District Convention – A view from the floor by ghp</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Dan, I appreciate the kind words. I can't help it but I'm a bit of a convention &amp; synodical politics geek. It's unbelievable fun to be on the floor of the convention &amp; watch as things unfold, anticipating where they might head next... ;^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Dan, I appreciate the kind words. I can&#8217;t help it but I&#8217;m a bit of a convention &#038; synodical politics geek. It&#8217;s unbelievable fun to be on the floor of the convention &#038; watch as things unfold, anticipating where they might head next&#8230; ;^)</p>
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		<title>Comment on IN-District Convention – A view from the floor by Dan at Necessary Roughness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan at Necessary Roughness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for providing this. I am still waiting for some decent news from the Ohio District, as information from official channels was very sparse.

You did a good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for providing this. I am still waiting for some decent news from the Ohio District, as information from official channels was very sparse.</p>
<p>You did a good job.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Musings on a Sunday after church by Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LSB 727...the verses are just fine, basically straight from Psalm 91.  The refrain makes me wonder..."Breath of Dawn"?  Eagles' wings, shine like the sun are both scriptural, although found nowhere near each other.  I'd have to disagree with the "utter dreck" idea, unless you're talking about the melody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LSB 727&#8230;the verses are just fine, basically straight from <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Psalm+91" class="bibleref" title="ESV Psalm 91">Psalm 91</a><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Psalm+91" class="scripturizer_newwindow" title="Open this passage in a new browser window" target="_new"><img src="http://bloggings.piperblogs.org/wp-content/plugins/the-holy-scripturizer/new-window.gif" alt="Open Link in New Window" /></a>.  The refrain makes me wonder&#8230;&#8221;Breath of Dawn&#8221;?  Eagles&#8217; wings, shine like the sun are both scriptural, although found nowhere near each other.  I&#8217;d have to disagree with the &#8220;utter dreck&#8221; idea, unless you&#8217;re talking about the melody.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Musings on a Sunday after church by robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We did say the Athanasesian Creed (sitting down due to the length)and responsively and I agree, it is something that I enjoy.  I think the servcie ran over maybe 3-5min longer than usual and that was with singing all the verses of all the hymns during communion even though communion was finished!  I must agree with you on the sunday school attendance thing...I think the "3 misses" is for the parents more than the kids.  I am not a negligent parent afterall.  I must say, I am glad my kids are grown, not that the worries stop there. 
BTW BBB...we saw 2 of the cutest brindle Frenchies at the pet store (don't tell mom)...2,400 per pup! Unbelievable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We did say the Athanasesian Creed (sitting down due to the length)and responsively and I agree, it is something that I enjoy.  I think the servcie ran over maybe 3-5min longer than usual and that was with singing all the verses of all the hymns during communion even though communion was finished!  I must agree with you on the sunday school attendance thing&#8230;I think the &#8220;3 misses&#8221; is for the parents more than the kids.  I am not a negligent parent afterall.  I must say, I am glad my kids are grown, not that the worries stop there.<br />
BTW BBB&#8230;we saw 2 of the cutest brindle Frenchies at the pet store (don&#8217;t tell mom)&#8230;2,400 per pup! Unbelievable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on It’s coming… by ghp</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She should know better. I now know that I've failed both my Goddaughters in significant ways... ;^)

As to flashing back, I think I'm safe in saying that WDET/Jazz was more traumatic to both of us than hockey was to you, right sweetie? LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She should know better. I now know that I&#8217;ve failed both my Goddaughters in significant ways&#8230; ;^)</p>
<p>As to flashing back, I think I&#8217;m safe in saying that WDET/Jazz was more traumatic to both of us than hockey was to you, right sweetie? LOL!</p>
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		<title>Comment on It’s coming… by robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I experienced flash backs to my younger days...#3 (don't ask how or why...) is a Penguins fan and put the game on yesterday...I found myself sticking my nose in a book, ready to leave the room, breaking out in a cold sweat...suddenly I was 10yrs old again...eeeeeeeek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I experienced flash backs to my younger days&#8230;#3 (don&#8217;t ask how or why&#8230;) is a Penguins fan and put the game on yesterday&#8230;I found myself sticking my nose in a book, ready to leave the room, breaking out in a cold sweat&#8230;suddenly I was 10yrs old again&#8230;eeeeeeeek</p>
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		<title>Comment on R.I.P. Chuck Daly (1930-2009) by coffee fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>coffee fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 18:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck Daly truly is hall of fame material for sure; he will be missed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck Daly truly is hall of fame material for sure; he will be missed</p>
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