The Battlefield of Love

Simon Sheppard's Sex and Power

2013-08-29T08:09:00.002+01:00

“The male inclination is to encourage the strong, while the female inclination is to nurture the weak. Males value the old for their wisdom and experience, while females value the young for their appeal and future promise.

The Nazi euthanasia programme, whereby mental defectives and the severely handicapped were killed, was a masculine expression. Nonetheless, that programme was rapidly aborted due to public disquiet. A feminine equivalent can be seen in the recent Dutch practice of killing aged and dying patients, occasionally simply to free up hospital beds. This is accepted in Holland and apparently continues to this day.

The male policy is to innovate; the female policy is to imitate.”

—Simon Sheppard, ‘Sex and Power: A Manual on Male-Female Relations’

http://www.heretical.com/pubs/sap.html

Sex & Power

A MANUAL ON MALE-FEMALE RELATIONS

SIMON SHEPPARD

Photographs of a few pages of the book. Throughout, yellow boxes denote material from other sources, and blue ones are original material such as anecdotes of notable events and behaviour.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sex-Power-Manual-Male-Female-Relations/dp/190124024X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377715983&sr=8-1&keywords=simon+sheppard+sex+and+power

Battlefield of Love now continues at Voice of Reason

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http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/

It just makes more sense because gender politics is politics pure and simple.

Not only do British men not have an alpha male to lead them, most of them are omega males afraid of omega females

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Now that I have explained to the beta male of Britain how and why they are oppressed by feminism, which marginalises the beta male, it is up to them to ask their leaders why he won't say anything about it.

You would have thought that their leader would be an alpha male, but in fact Britain does not have an alpha male anywhere at all, not even in the highest echelons of government.

How can you be an alpha male if you are afraid of offending omega females?

Below are some points to note on the Khavian Theory of Race and Gender:

An alpha female is the mate of an alpha male.
A beta female is the mate of the beta male.
An omega female is an SSM. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Are-Spinster-Single-Mums-a-burden-on-the-state/417696111659379 An omega female is undeniably the least desirable female partner for a man seeking a wife to be the mother of his biological and legitimate children.
Any male afraid of criticising the morals of the omega female is an omega male.
The omega male (who can only aspire to be a MCSF -"Morally-Compromised Slut-Fucker" ) is lower than the omega female (an SSM https://www.facebook.com/pages/Are-Spinster-Single-Mums-a-burden-on-the-state/417696111659379).
Even an alpha male can be deprived of his status if he offends omega females, so he is not really an alpha at all.
All British males (even if apparently alpha or beta) who are afraid of offending the omega female are omega males.
Even the official alpha male of Britain - Prime Minister David Cameron - is in fact an omega male because he fears to offend the omega female, a promiscuous female who has made bad reproductive choices and is a bad mother is considered to be least desirable by any male of any society that is considered healthy, moral and civilised.

How can you call yourself an alpha male if you do whatever your female partner says? The British now have their social and foreign policy influenced by some unelected woman and they say NOTHING. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2363955/Samantha-Camerons-Syria-lobbying-PMs-wife-Camerons-sympathy-rebels.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9827638/David-Camerons-wife-Samantha-is-the-driving-force-behind-gay-marriage.html

The rest of British men must be omega males if they are too stupid or too scared to challenge Cameron.

That is why Asian sex predators abuse adolescent white British girls because they are easy meat and the omega males of Britain haven't got it in them to criticise the omega female SSMs who brought their victims into existence.

How low can these men sink?

Any society needs alphas and betas, but not omegas. This country is stinking with omega males afraid of omega females.

While any society must have more betas than alphas, the British have more omegas than betas. This is what happens when men allow themselves to be ruled by the morally rotten ideology of feminism because they have been bribed by sluts offering cheap sex and are now addicted to it.

Why the alpha male no longer exists in Western society

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The brutal truth about the laws of the matriarchy is that an alpha male can be deprived of his status, property and children by his wife who may even be an omega female.

I say again: an alpha male can be deprived of his status by his wife who may turn out to be an omega female, ie a slut, or an SSM or an adulteress.

Those who realise this after seeing this happening to other men he knows, will predictably decide not to marry or have children.

If he does have children they will be inferior and degenerate because they are likely to be illegitimate, he is unlikely to be living with their mother, he is unlikely to have authority over them or care much about them because his female partner will have got pregnant accidentally on purpose.

The birth rate will continue to decline and each successive generation be more degenerate than the other.

The patriarchy gives men authority over women and it is this perceived superiority of their status that makes them do what they are supposed to do, ie marry, provide, be good fathers, work hard, take risks etc.

The matriarchy gives women authority over men by encouraging promiscuity in women, in the way that a drug-dealer might give free samples of drugs to potential customers until they are hooked. When they are hooked the dealer will be calling the shots over his customer. When the customer runs out of money, he would become the slave of the drug-dealer and then forced to prostitute himself or herself or even commit crimes. The consequence of living in a matriarchy for a man is to be demoralised and degenerate. Men will not risk much if their immediate needs eg food and sex are met and they no longer feel shame in being provided for by their women. If they are being provided for by their women, they will not wish to offend them.

The entire nation will become risk averse, effeminate, and vulnerable to exploitation and invasion by other races and nations who will hold them in hatred, ridicule and contempt because they know that these pussywhipped men have no alpha male to lead them and men of this society are afraid of the worst of their women, who are SSMs. In short, they are are already cursed by degeneracy, illegitimacy, dishonour, dementia, cowardice and hypocrisy.

There are no alpha males in the West now. The Prime Minister of Britain is not an alpha male. He allows his British social and economic policy to be dictated by his wife and the rest of the betas are too stupid to question or criticise this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2363955/Samantha-Camerons-Syria-lobbying-PMs-wife-Camerons-sympathy-rebels.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9827638/David-Camerons-wife-Samantha-is-the-driving-force-behind-gay-marriage.html

So far none of the fucking stupid pathetic beta and omega male Tories seem to be getting their 46 signatures together for the Chairman of the 1922 Committee to make him pay dearly for imposing gay marriage on the British. Perhaps their wives or slut girlfriends are telling them not to?

Betas do not question why, they only do or die, and boy do they deserve to die.

The brutal truths of being single and looking when you are middle-aged

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All matchmakers or dating websites can only work with what they have got. All single people by definition have something wrong with them.
Beta females do not fancy beta males.
Beta males do not fancy women an alpha male would not fancy.
Alpha females do not fancy beta males.
Most middle-aged single males are beta.
Most middle-aged single females are beta.
In most cases, you really should put up with the devil you know.
The fact that you are divorced means you have failed.
That you are contemplating divorce means you are contemplating acknowledging that you have failed.
Divorcing your spouse means condemning your offspring to inferior status, but you are a selfish stupid bitch anyway so you wouldn't give a shit about what happens to your offspring, would you? If anything bad happens to them or you, you would just claim the victimhood status that you are entitled as a woman to do. Anyway, most of your friends are single mothers just like you, so why would you give a fuck anyway?

Gender politics is the politics of race

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Consider the answer to the questions below:

"All women would rather fuck an alpha of another race than fuck a beta of her own race." (Please note I said "fuck", not "marry".)
"Are you aware that all females *without exception* want an alpha male? If you are beta, your female partner had to settle for you because she realised she couldn't do any better. You were her last bus."
"Women probably despise beta males more than the most rabid racist hates people he thinks are of an inferior race."
"If you had a daughter and wanted the best for her, would you rather she married a beta male of her own race, or an alpha of another?"
If you are male, imagine you are female and had to marry. Which would you rather do? (a) Marry a beta male of your own race (b) Marry an alpha male of another race
What would be more rational? For a woman to marry a beta male of her own race or for her to marry an alpha male of another race?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/111274988378/ is where you could go to discuss this.

Points to note.

Males compete with other males for sexual access to female.
There are more beta males than alpha males.
If you hurt the betas of your society, then you will hurt most of the men of your society.
If you hurt most of them men of your society, your civilisation will wither away and die, because they will no longer work, no longer marry and no longer fight. This is what is happening in the West now.
It used to be the case that if a male is beta he has the hope of rising above his status vicariously through producing legitimate offspring. Now, sadly, his offspring will neither be a credit to him nor legitimate. More likely than not, his wife will divorce him when she gets bored of him, kick him out of his matrimonial home and deprive him of his children. Because he is aware of this as a possibility, he will more likely not have any children at all, legitimate or illegitimate. He may just go gay because he is now told that it is OK to go gay now that gay people can now legally marry. Sex without responsibility is a very attractive proposition.
The wealthy will know not to marry any woman to avoid giving up their wealth to some dirty little gold-digger, so while some of them produce children, they will not be particularly wanted or legitimate, so even the offspring of the wealthy will deteriorate in quality.
Feminism threatens both the beta and the alpha male, in other words, so virulent and insidious is this evil ideology.
Who will look after the elderly? Not these working women will be too busy. The elderly will be euthanased.
Who will look after children? Paedos working in nurseries, probably, while their mothers go to work.
IVF - an unnecessary indulgence of the infertile female or a fertile female with a infertile man - is also dysgenic. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-206791/Mental-health-fears-IVF.html
The beta female is now considered higher in status than the beta male, and this has alienated and demoralised him.
Women's needs, no matter how frivolous, are considered to over-ride the needs of men. Even if women don't need jobs to obtain status, the government will continue to give women men's jobs even though they do not need them as much. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/apr/01/david-willetts-feminism-lack-of-jobs
The white beta male is disadvantaged in employment and disadvantaged in his ability to find a mate with whom to have legitimate offspring because he can no longer even express his disapproval or resentment of immigration without damaging himself socially or economically.
Feminism is evil because it unnecessarily elevates the position of the female at the expense of the beta male.
Feminism makes it acceptable for the female to neglect her work and allow her to compete unfairly against men to their disadvantage.
Feminism is dysgenic.

The Omega Male must eventually make way for the Islamic Male when British women eventually wise up

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http://ask.fm/oneparty4all/answer/54975295105

There is something deeply repulsive about the kind of blatant antisemitism expressed by the more primitive species of ethno-nationalist, and we have an example of this in the link above.

For daring to visit a synagogue on London Open Day two years ago and inviting me along so I took photos, Jeffrey Marshall is now suspected of being a Jew because he had to cover his head to enter a synagogue. He was given a skull cap to wear. He wore it, and now every retard in nationalism thinks he is a Jew and therefore the enemy.

It is a bit like my flag and gun photo. In the same way that some imbecilic liberals believe that I am a Nazi, just by being photographed near a swastika, it is generally believed by retard nationalists that Jeffrey Marshall is a Jew because he was photographed in a synagogue wearing a skull cap.

I have met Jeffrey's mother and she is not a Jewess. He is also the son of a publican.

It is only to be expected that these Nationalist Neanderthals cannot imagine themselves ever wanting to visit a synagogue. After all culture, history and architecture are not in the included list of interests of the lumpenproletariat.

Nationalists are overwhelmingly beta males. Being beta means that they feel the inconveniences of being poorer, lowlier, less educated and less desirable than men who are more affluent, have higher status, and are educated and considered attractive and eligible.

Still, many of these ethno-nationalists are so pig ignorant they regard antisemitism as synonymous with patriotism. Many of the associates of Dave Jones, my former political associate, feel this hatred deep in their guts and what passes for their souls. But then Dave Jones is a rancorous peasant who never completed his education, and his associates are in a similar position and also dysfunctional in some way. It is easier for them to blame Jews and Muslims for their troubles than the way the beta male craves the approval of SSM https://www.facebook.com/pages/Are-Spinster-Single-Mums-a-burden-on-the-state/417696111659379 fornicatresses. Because the beta male cannot easily persuade women to have no-strings sex with him, afford to take a wife or the services of a prostitute, he is left only with the hope for sexual access to women who are prepared to give it to him for free - in short, the Recreational Fornicatress.

Such women will have low standards of morality and intelligence. However, because of this natural craving to have sex and the wish to gain reproductive rights, the beta male feels he has no choice but to refrain from offending these fornicatresses or even to be seen to be defending them whenever I criticise their morals.

Dave Jones and those of his ilk cannot bring themselves to acknowledge the truth about SSMs. While they would never want to have sex with Jews or Muslims or Blacks, the English slut is at least useful to them, they reason, because she can at least be persuaded to give them a shag without too much difficulty, unlike the sexually inaccessible Jewess or Muslim female.

However, the attachment and protectiveness that English ethno-nationalists feel towards the English slut is only the protectiveness a drunk feels towards a bottle of glass containing cheap strong drink that he is anxious to consume and protect from breakage.

It is only because Jews and Muslims respect the institution of the family that makes them easily outgun the gentile lumpenproletariat who cannot compete with foreigners even in the field of unskilled manual labour. It is they who have had their characters ruined by the welfare state, and the welfare state is kept going because it must be kept going to keep the sluts fed and watered, breeding and parasitical.

While the white working classes remain unfit for purpose, there will always be a demand for immigrant labour. Sadly however, my theory that sluts cause immigration is not accepted in the same way that an alcoholic cannot bring himself to admit that his drinking has in any way caused him any problems with his job or his relationships, because he does not want to give up drink.

Pity these omega men for they have no family, no culture, no god, no education and no personal qualities that might dispose a sane British employer to hire them willingly, for this is now the lot of the white working classes of Britain destined to be replaced by wave after wave of immigrants facilitated by government after government.

Only I dare to tell them what is happening to them. Only I say this to them because there is no one else to do so, for even their leaders exploit them, abuse them and expect little from them. Nick Griffin certainly does not consider them worthy or capable of being told the truth of their unenviable position. It is far far easier to blame Jews and Muslims and Blacks and Chinks than the sluts they cannot bring themselves to criticise.

The coarsening of British culture is directly related to the fact that most British men get their sex from sluts these days. In the days when marriage was respected, most men would get their sex from their wives and a minority from prostitutes.

In the Land of Compulsory Fornication that Paedo Bastard Britain Slutland now is, where most women are sluts and most men are morally-compromised slut-fuckers (MCSFs) decline and fall into bastardy and barbarism is inevitable and perhaps already irreversible.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2360084/Most-babies-born-wedlock-2016-marriage-falls-fashion.html

You would have thought that nationalists whom you would expect to care about the long-term future of their nation would be in some way be exercised by this alarming prospect of degeneracy and decline, but not a bit of it.

These men are not true nationalists in the real sense. A true nationalist would care about the long-term future of their nation instead of equating hatred of Jews, Muslims and other races with love for his country or for his people.

Those of them who do agree with me dare not be seen to agree with me in public, for fear of the offence this would cause their fellow nationalists, who are mostly illegitimate and who are mostly parents of illegitimate offspring. In fact, these men who are portrayed by the media as dangerous extremists are really hypocrites and cowards afraid of criticising the morals of the worst of their women, in order to avoid acknowledging the reality of their own degradation.

What of the future? I predict that eventually enough white working class British females will vote with their feet and convert to Islam in the hope of marrying a husband who is prepared to take his marriage vows seriously. This is in fact already happening at East London Mosque. Even Eastern European Catholic women in London see that the future is Islam now.

Eventually, enough men will vote with their feet and convert to Islam in the hope of taking a wife who will take her marriage vows seriously and be a good mother and wife.

Britain won't be Islamified by brown Muslims but by the reproductive choices of rational British women who will eventually realise that the only rational choice they have left, if they care about the quality of their offspring, is to reject their pernicious culture of sexual liberation and reject any man who does not look like he will prove to be a good provider, a good husband or a good father.

So, now you know what Muslims are for, and Jews for that matter. They are the living demonstration of the importance of marriage in any society that desires longevity and wishes to remain an advanced society, and that this mysterious mechanism of regulating sexual relations between humans called marriage can only be supported in perpetuity by a continuing and general belief in society of the existence of a moral and omnipotent God, or by laws that punish sluts. http://quran.com/24/2

Feminist admits "The decline of marriage is a natural consequence of gender equality"

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/11/generation-love-with-marriage?CMP=twt_gu

But she thinks it is a good thing.

Are feminists evil, or just stupid?

" ... while the first feminist victory was arguably the freedom to marry for love, one of the most recent has been the freedom not to get married at all. Also, we're all really, really skint."

Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett burbles on.

Does she ever wonder if feminism and legislation protecting the matriarchy is responsible for the fact that "we're all really really skint" now?

Clearly not. I would put her in the latter category of stupid then. She is yet another over-promoted and over-indulged mediocrity that liberals so love to indulge.

Men cannot really blame women for messing things up. It would be like two parents leaving their sexually-liberated adolescent daughter in charge of the home for three months without any guidance or rules and complaining that she is pregnant, unsure of the identity of the father, and that the house is in a bit of a mess upon their return.

What is the difference between a men's rights activist and a real man who is not afraid of saying he is anti-feminist?

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A men's rights activist would want paternity leave for fathers just because he sees mothers getting maternity leave. He, like feminists, is not interested in promoting the institution of marriage.

A real man would demand that maternity leave be abolished altogether and the idea of demanding paternity leave for fathers never cross his mind. He would be unashamed and unafraid to state that he is anti-feminist and sees it as his masculine and social responsibility to promote and reconsecrate the institution of marriage.

What men's rights activists want

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Chandrapal S Bhasker:

"abandon all systems of gynocentricity that enslave men, including marriage
take no responsibility for women or their behaviour. men are responsible for themselves and for the the welfare of other boys and men."

This is what men's rights activists want.

This is the future. We will have gangs of marauding men raping lone women or women with men who cannot protect them. Remember how that woman in India died after some men attacked her when she was with her male companion on a bus?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/31/indian-gang-rape-victims-brother-hanged-_n_2387203.html

"During the rape, the victim was attacked by six men on a bus. A metal rod was inserted in her body, which resulted in the removal of almost all of her intestines."

The more the institution of marriage is desecrated the more likely your children and descendants will become the marauding men, or the victims of these marauding men.

What is the betting that the rapists had fathers who were not married to their mothers?

http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/11/verdict-on-juvenile-accused-in-delhi-gang-rape-deferred/

You have been warned.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10172627/Most-children-will-be-born-out-of-wedlock-by-2016.html

Real men would say maternity leave should be abolished altogether, but men's rights activists campaign to have paternity leave.

Men's rights activists are feminised men. Real men would say they are anti-feminist and not be afraid of saying the F word.

Beta males in anti-feminist movement refuse to accept necessity of having an alpha male to lead them

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Jackson Wright

Is there anyone who is a leader in the men's rights movement? Or considered the leader?

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Peter Goodwin Good question. There is certainly a need for a focal point. I have been looking for a way to get engaged with the issue for sometime but it seems so fragmented it is hard to see where I can make a genuine difference. I think the Justice for Men and Boys political party is the nearest thing to it.

July 5 at 10:07am · Like

Jackson Wright That name would put many off. I think this sort of thing has to be attached to an existing party.

July 5 at 10:08am · Like

Jackson Wright http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/1616/pete-molloy-hypocrite

I see some attempt has been made to do so.

HOPE not hate blog: Pete Molloy: Hypocrite
www.hopenothate.org.uk

Pete Molloy, BNP activist from Spennymoor in the North East would probably like ...to be described as a political animal. I prefer to call him a hypocrite. Molloy, self styled leader of the BNP front organisation The British Veterans Group is happily married with kids to fellow BNP activist Amanda ...See More

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Jackson Wright http://www.bnp.org.uk/whitepapers

British National Party
www.bnp.org.uk

By Pete Molloy – A former high profile father’s rights activist with Fathers 4 J...ustice and architect of the British National Party’s White Paper on family policy.See More

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Martin Brady Jackson Wright, we don't 'do' guilt by association in this group.

July 5 at 10:13am · Like · 3

Jackson Wright What do you mean?

July 5 at 10:14am · Like

Jackson Wright Who is guilty of what?

July 5 at 10:14am · Like

Jackson Wright The LibLabCon don't care about men's rights, so you choose the other parties you might. It seems logical to choose the 4th and 5th largest parties. I am not suggesting anyone is guilty of anything at all.

July 5 at 10:17am · Like

Martin Brady Several of your links on this thread are about connections between people involved with men's rights and the far right in Britain. I've removed one which made a particularly tenuous link between a member of this group and Anders Brevik.

Besides, this group isn't about party politics.

July 5 at 10:18am · Like

Martin Brady The men's rights movement in the UK doesn't have any single leaders, but rather people who step up and do their bit. F4J is probably the best known organisation, but there are many others.

July 5 at 10:19am · Like

Jackson Wright How are you going to get more rights for men without party politics?

July 5 at 10:20am · Edited · Like

Jackson Wright F4J are seen as losers who deserve to lose their kids.

July 5 at 10:20am · Like

Martin Brady By lobbying individual politicians with a history of relating to issues relevant to men's rights. But we've already discussed this topic; I suggest that you have a good read of the earlier threads in this group.

July 5 at 10:22am · Like

Jackson Wright I don't see why you feel you have to censor a Guardian article reporting something that is already in the public domain.

July 5 at 10:22am · Like

Jackson Wright Which politicians have a history of discussing men's rights?

July 5 at 10:23am · Like

Steve Wylie I listened to an audio-only Youtube video recently about MRA politics, although it was about American politics. The general opinion was that MRAs would do well not to align themselves with any political party, particularly not the Right (Republican & Christian fundamentalists in the U.S.) because although the Right would welcome more votes, the MRM's issues would be put on a back-burner among the other priorities of these political parties. They'd be welcomed in, but with no benefit to the MRM.

It is for this reason we try and steer away from party politics in this group.

July 5 at 10:24am · Like · 2

Martin Brady I'm not censoring the posting of the article, but rather disallowing the insinuation which went with it. I suggest that you acquaint yourself with basic group etiquette - reading the rules (under the 'About' section) would be a start.

July 5 at 10:24am · Like

Jackson Wright You just have to lobby the parties harder and convince them it is a vote-winner. I don't see why not, since if you challenge feminism then you divide voters into men and women.

July 5 at 10:27am · Edited · Like · 1

Jackson Wright Martin, what do you think I was insinuating?

July 5 at 10:26am · Like

Martin Brady You juxtaposed a comment about a group member with an article, linking another member of a political party he's been associated with to Anders Breivik. Frankly, that kind of nonsense just isn't on in this group, and won't be tolerated for a second.

July 5 at 10:31am · Like · 2

Jackson Wright The point I was trying to make was that Steve Moxon is associated with UKIP. Is UKIP not interested in men's rights then?

July 5 at 10:33am · Like

Martin Brady In future, THINK before you post!

July 5 at 10:37am · Like

Steve Wylie Political parties - once they gain power - become part of the State. And feminism feeds off the State. Some say feminism was created by the State.

Feminism offers things that the State, its employees and politicians find appealing. "Problems" to fight. Things to say in speeches, and causes to channel money into.

July 5 at 10:53am · Unlike · 3

Jackson Wright They probably just sleep with them.

July 5 at 10:55am · Like

Steve Wylie They know how to organise, and attract attention and sympathy.

And we can't use the same tactics ourselves, because a man trying to attract sympathy looks pathetic, or can be easily painted so.

And a lot of women protesting looks "empowering". A lot of men protesting looks "threatening". Plus, women own the media these days.

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Jackson Wright So you have to cut the ground from under them, by attacking feminism itself.

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Martin Brady *performs drum roll as build-up to MGTOW tactics being announced*

July 5 at 11:00am · Like

Martin Brady Way ahead of you on that one! Or rather, in exposing the ways in which radfem has gone out of its way to hijack mainstream feminism.

July 5 at 11:01am · Like

Jackson Wright What are the problems?

July 5 at 11:02am · Like

Martin Brady Agreed, John Mac Canna - there's no vacant position for the post of Glorious Leader!

July 5 at 11:04am · Edited · Like · 1

Jackson Wright Er, so who is our Glorious Leader then?

July 5 at 11:03am · Like

Martin Brady Indeed. Jackson, would you please do other members of this group the basic courtesy of reading a few threads before wading in with topics we've already discussed ad nauseum? Thanks!

July 5 at 11:04am · Like

Jackson Wright I don't know where to look or what keywords to search. Isn't quicker just to answer my questions?

July 5 at 11:05am · Like

Martin Brady No, it's an imposition and an irritation. Do the grown-up thing and look harder.

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Jackson Wright You need to cut the ground from underneath them and attack feminism directly.

July 5 at 11:38am · Like

Jackson Wright I don't think it would be in order for men to offer to have sex with men in power. It might not always be accepted.

July 5 at 11:41am · Like

Martin Brady I think that one came from way leftfield!

July 5 at 11:49am · Like

Stuart 'Ginge' Graham I think the closest we have a leadership for men's rights is the UK's Mens Aid, who are excellent in experience, research, advocacy etc. Well worth joining. Other than that, there are regional initiatives, notably Glen Poole in Brighton.

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Christopher Karamian http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1337/85/1337853206971.jpg

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Jackson Wright Glen Poole writes for the Guardian and so is likely to be useless.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/15/why-crisis-masculinity-feminism has his hugely unimpressive piece asking for permission from feminists to discuss men's issues.

How tackling the 'crisis of masculinity' creates a crisis for feminism
www.guardian.co.uk

Glen Poole: Labour is putting men's issues on the agenda, but it must avoid the negative narrative that stops men joining the debate

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Christopher Karamian I really enjoyed that article. Thought it was really positive and balanced for once

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Amber Fairy-Gothmother Janko I agree with Christopher, what's wrong with it? Was very surprised to even see an article in a mainstream paper that acknowledge men's issues in such a frank and fair way, to be honest.

July 6 at 8:58pm · Like · 2

Stuart 'Ginge' Graham Glen is unusual in that he seeks to engage with all sides, politely addressing argument to the pint that the other gets brow beaten into submission and give him what he wants so as not to look silly. Few have the tolerance he does to get that far. He a...See More

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Jackson Wright It is more than a bit watery. But then if it was not it would not be printed in the Guardian. I am saying men don't need the approval of women to get more rights, just TAKE them back.

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Martin Brady One approach to taking back rights by default is MTGOW..Steve Wylie, care to comment further on this phenomenon?

Sunday at 4:07pm · Like

Stuart 'Ginge' Graham Also, you should take a look at LWS4P, who are leading women on the march for greater rights for children, some even feminists.

Sunday at 4:09pm · Like

Martin Brady That doesn't come up on a Google search, Stuart 'Ginge' Graham; care to post a link?

Sunday at 4:37pm · Like

Stuart 'Ginge' Graham http://lw4sp.org/

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Endorse our statement supporting Shared Parenting in divorce and child custody p...roceedings. Together we can change family law to ensure that children are free to have full and rewarding relationships with both parents.See More

Sunday at 4:42pm · Like · 1

Jackson Wright You don't need women to give you permission to do this.

Monday at 9:31am · Like

Martin Brady Who's asking for permission, Jackson Wright? Stuart 'Ginge' Graham is simply remarking that the issue of equal parenting is also being championed and supported by women. That's a good thing, surely?

Monday at 12:12pm · Like · 2

Stuart 'Ginge' Graham The idea is that these women will create a snowball of culture change by acting as responsible role models. Fighting for rights is fine, but in the end they are only given when the culture battle is won. Every little counts.

Monday at 12:40pm · Like · 3

Jackson Wright Sounds like you are seeking validation from them before you dare to ask for your rights.

Monday at 1:05pm · Like

Martin Brady And it sounds to me as though YOU'RE resorting to shaming language, for some reason best known to yourself Jackson Wright.

Think about it...in a society which is more than 50% female, is it not advantageous to have organised support for equal parenthood from women as well as men?

Monday at 1:08pm · Like · 3

Christopher Karamian Not just advantageous. Morally and practically essential.

Monday at 1:10pm · Like · 2

Jackson Wright Men don't need permission from women to do what is right.

Monday at 1:12pm · Like

Martin Brady Do you like prison food, Jackson Wright?

Monday at 1:13pm · Like · 1

Martin Brady Seriously, if women are offering organised support, why reject it?

Monday at 1:14pm · Edited · Like

Jackson Wright Why are you suggesting I might be jailed?

Monday at 1:16pm · Like

Jackson Wright Sisters are doing it for themselves, but men can't, apparently.

Monday at 1:16pm · Edited · Like

Amber Fairy-Gothmother Janko I think it's probably because your language is quite violent. Talking about forcibly taking things from people is REALLY not appropriate in any kind of gender-based political conversation, given the implications.

Monday at 1:17pm · Like · 3

Martin Brady Jackson Wright, it seems to me as though you're in the thrall of your own pet cliches!

Monday at 1:18pm · Like

Stuart 'Ginge' Graham Men are simply not naturally programmed to work in large groups; we hunt in small packs and attack other packs in the same area. We have not evolved into the species necessary to protect ourselves in the modern society. Women have always had to work together in as large a group as possible, especially when the men are away. Jackson is right in that sense, but you only need to compare this thread with one from a women's forum to see how they gravitate towards the same outcome.

Monday at 1:20pm · Like

Jackson Wright What do you mean "gravitate towards the same outcome"?

Monday at 1:22pm · Like

Martin Brady I'm a little sceptical of the 'natural programming' argument: it makes the conceptual leap from evolutionary biology to biological determinism, and denies the role of individual consciousness. However, I do take your point about co-operation, Stuart 'Ginge' Graham.

Monday at 1:23pm · Like · 1

Stuart 'Ginge' Graham Men will agree generally, then ponder over every detail and split over nuances. Women agree and get on with it. In the wild, it means women will live in leaky houses and die in Winter. In the modern society, it means they get what they want decades before the men have finished drafting.

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Amber Fairy-Gothmother Janko Very true!

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Jackson Wright It just takes one good leader.

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Jackson Wright https://www.facebook.com/groups/422236254453680/

Anyone who wants to choose a leader against feminism should join this group.

Men and Women Against Feminism

Is feminism destructive to marriage and the family?

134 members

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Christopher Karamian No Leaders. No Gods. No Bosses.

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Jackson Wright How extraordinarily infantile to think anything difficult and cannot be done alone can be accomplished without leadership.

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Jackson Wright But then you are merely men in arrested adolescence and happy where you are, with your toys and your fantasies.

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Men's rights group having a hissy fit about their pathetic whingeing being made public

2013-07-10T14:29:00.000+01:00

https://www.facebook.com/groups/190093287771782/

Martin Brady

Further to the recent troll activity by Claire Khaw within the group, here is a post on her blog in which she's used screenshots of selected threads without the consent of the members involved:

The Voice of Reason: Feminised men's rights activists cannot discuss difficult questions and...

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Christopher Karamian "I am also trying to get the Jews to acknowledge me as their Messiah and sponsor my conversion"

What a fascinating character

June 23 at 1:46pm via mobile · Unlike · 1
Martin Brady No, to move on without taking further action would be simply sweeping this situation under the carpet. She's compromised the privacy of the group and its members by posting unauthorised screenshots to her blog. We need to consider what can be done to make her remove the offending post, including the ultimate threat of legal action.

June 23 at 1:47pm · Like · 1
Martin Brady Money isn't the issue here: teaching her a lesson in the grown-up world is. And compromising the privacy of a closed Facebook group must be against their rules; I imagine that Blogger would also take a dim view of such activity, and would respond positively to any complaints. I suspect that it would be worth obtaining legal advice on this matter too, provided that such advice was inexpensive, or ideally free.

June 23 at 1:53pm · Edited · Like · 1
Adrienne Hartley Martin, I feel that John is right, at best all Blogger will do is ask her to remove the posts. Jessica Thorm had her arrested for comments made suggesting she faked having Tourettes. It didn't achieve anything other than publicity.

June 23 at 2:03pm via mobile · Like · 1
Martin Brady Adrienne Hartley, getting Blogger to remove the offending post would be a result, and the possibility of getting her banned from Facebook would also spare the members of other closed groups a similar experience. Doing nothing under such circumstances is NOT an option!

I do think, however, that we should obtain legal advice, if only to give us better information on how to deal with such issues in the future.

June 23 at 2:08pm · Edited · Like · 1
Adrienne Hartley Claire has operated this way for years on fb and Blogger. She has been reported and banned many, many times but never removed permanently. If she is permanently banned she will simply open another profile.

I know nothing about internet privacy law at all but knowing what has prevailed leads me to think that not much can be done.

I do however understand your outrage and concern. One does not expect or relish seeing their comments in a private group displayed in public.

June 23 at 2:15pm via mobile · Like · 1
Martin Brady If we can inconvenience her in carrying out such activities, even if the effects are temporary, so much the better.

June 23 at 2:18pm · Like · 1
John Wyres-Smith Well something needs to be done, as this strikes me as being defamation of character of everyone in the group.

June 23 at 2:48pm · Like · 2
Steve Moxon As someone regularly in receipt of mainstream media defamation, I should point out that at this stage all publicity really is good.

What has Claire done other than to claim that this group is not as extreme as she would like it to be? Hardly defamation.

If people come across posts from the group then that is useful.

I get all sorts of serious misrepresentation,. and all it does is increase my profile and support. Just the other day the Gruniad described me as 'marginal'. and in the very act of writing about me showed me hardly to be so -- as evidenced by Rod Liddle's subsequent Facebook 'friend' request.

June 23 at 4:36pm · Like · 1
Martin Brady She's compromised the privacy of a closed group, for starters; what's more, she's been very selective about what she's screengrabbed and quoted members out of context. Much of what gets posted to this group is done on the assumption that this is a private forum, and whilst I'd stand by anything that I posted here (and phrase myself accordingly, based on the assumption that such leaks have always been possible, and to avoid any possible misunderstandings), I don't appreciate the contents of my non-public discussions being splashed all over public areas of the internet.

June 23 at 4:52pm · Edited · Like
Fiona Teasdale There isn't a way to fight someone like this, she has her own agenda and we can't possibly know or understand it, all I'll say is there IS a case for defamation and breach of privacy but I do not feel comfortable discussing it any further in public here.

Just remember, friends stick by friends, as misguided and messed up as it may be, not to mention stomach-churningly sickening, but maybe that's just me as I couldn't befriend someone who felt that disabled people should be killed or that single men should be treated as second class citizens.

June 23 at 4:57pm · Like
Martin Brady On the contrary, there are PLENTY of ways to fight someone like her...

June 23 at 4:58pm · Like · 2
Pete Nicholls http://benwoodhams.wordpress.com/2010/06/12/claire_khaw/

June 23 at 8:43pm via mobile · Like
Pete Nicholls I got about the same impression from a quick glance through.

June 23 at 10:26pm · Like
Adrienne Hartley No she wants to implement a form of koranic rule based on Islam.

June 23 at 10:41pm via mobile · Like
Adrienne Hartley Ben's blog is three years old, things have changed since then.

June 23 at 10:42pm

Beta males in Eurosceptic parties too scared and stupid to fight feminism even though they are the ones most affected

2013-07-10T12:18:00.001+01:00

https://www.facebook.com/groups/190093287771782/424078307706611/?notif_t=group_comment_reply

Steve Moxon

Here is a case of the type that explains the low stats for mariticide -- husband-murder -- conmpared to uxoricide. It's simply because women use third-party executioners. The reasons the woman has here are familiaely trivial.

This from today's DM.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358842/The-moment-grinning-21-year-old-mother-tried-hire-undercover-cop-posing-hit-man-kill-husband-easier-divorcing-him.html#ixzz2YasvB7dg

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Jackson Wright If you are murdered you are more likely to be murdered by your spouse than anyone else.

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Steve Moxon The point I'm making is that this applies to men just as much as it does to women, despite men being much more likely to be murder victims generally.

Feminists pretend that spousal homicide is a women's issue, through citing a sex-differential in the stats, when these stats do not take into account the sex-differential in modes of spousal homicide. Mariticide is far harder to detect than uxoricide, because women are far more motivated to try to get away with the crime, in that they wish for the family otherwise to remain intact and to benefit financially. Women can call on lovers, friends, relatives or a hired hit-man to carry out the deed to thereby distance themselves from it; or they can use direct but non-detectable methods such as the time-honoured poisoning.

The case here indicates the relative triviality of motivation, which contrasts with the general case for men, who are remarkable in not much more frequently killing their partners given the major problems of financial ruin and denied child access that separation entails.

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Jackson Wright What do you propose be done about this though?

3 hours ago · Like
Steve Moxon Dissemination of the true picture.
The fulcrum of the collapse of the feminist viewpoint is intimate-partner violence, of which spousal homicide is the one remaining stat at the end of the collapse of the house of cards in the light of extensive research debunking each feminist staged retreat in their analysis of IPV.

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Jackson Wright As I keep saying, you need a political party that people have heard of to spread the message. You need to make UKIP say they will repeal the Equality Act 2010 and reintroduce fault into divorce.

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Steve Moxon Well I tried to get UKIP interested in properly understanding and attacking PC but this fell on deaf ears. They haven't woken up to the standard 'triangulation' by PC-fascists whereby sensible, ordinary perspective is misrepresented as extremist. Hence the Party's failure in the minor spat re my paper candidacy when political-Left journalists picked up on my previous comments pointing out that Anders Breivik was citing and not originating an analysis of PC, and that this analysis is accurate historically and politically.

Until UKIP stops merely paying lip service to opposition to PC and actually practices it, then we're all still in trouble.

They will wake up in due course, however, because there is at best only very short-term partial advantage in giving in to 'triangulation': the Party will soon enough have to face it head-on.

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Jackson Wright Nigel Farage is a moral coward.

about an hour ago · Like
Jackson Wright But then most men are these days.

about an hour ago · Like
Jackson Wright Only beta males are initially affected by feminism. They would be too fearful of being deprived of their reproductive rights to fight it, so they do not. In the meantime alpha males think they are immune, but when they are knocked down one by one as sex offenders, eg Max Clifford etc, you know the game is up, unless you fight back NOW.

about an hour ago · Like
Jackson Wright Interestingly, it is only the BNP who have the solutions, surprisingly. They at least said they wanted to repeal the Equality Act 2010.

about an hour ago · Like
Jackson Wright Only an eye-catching campaign could turn the tide in time, but most of you are betas, so you would be either too afraid to fight or fight but retreat at the first setback, making your cause seem unworthy and ridiculous.

Sadly, most men here are by definition betas. No alpha male would be seen dead in a men's rights group, for to do so would be identify oneself with victimhood. A man who is a victim is shop-soiled goods, like a rape-victim before women had been liberated, unless he fights back successfully.

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Steve Moxon I don't agree. Alpha-males are more able to indulge their moral concerns without suffering penalty, and given that an objective anti-ideological analysis rather than mere perspectivism reveals PC and its feminist core as completely rotten, then we can expect alpha-males to be active in anti-feminism.

about an hour ago · Like
Jackson Wright Ideally, you would want a woman who knows how to behave like an alpha male to get anywhere, since alpha males would too afraid of their wives and being deprived of their homes and children to do anything, unless they are Rupert Murdoch or Charles Saatchi.

Does anyone know a woman who understands the principles and practice of behaving like an alpha male? I can only think of Claire Khaw but she has already blotted her copybook with you all here.

Indeed, she believes most of you are actually *afraid* of her.

Paradoxically, it is probably a female and a foreigner who can do this better than the white indigenous male Briton.

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Jackson Wright I cannot think of any alpha males who are active in anti-feminism. None of you strike me as alpha.

about an hour ago · Like
Jackson Wright http://www.modernmalelifestyle.com/Article/Alpha-Male-vs-Beta-Male-Traits-Know-Difference-2 explains the differences.

Alpha Male & Beta Male Traits - Know the Difference

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Steve Moxon Jackson's quite in error here. Plenty of ultra-famous clearly alpha-males make comments that are dismissed by journalists as misogynistic [sic] but which the alpha-males brush off with the contempt they deserve.

The male world is not a division between alphas and betas but an overlap of all sorts of graded hierarchies. Anti-feminist circles have their own hierarchies, so by definition there have to be alpha-males within anti-feminism.

53 minutes ago · Like
Jackson Wright You have to admit that there is no one in a position to lead the attack against feminism, Steve.

You would have to choose a leader, and you probably won't get it together to choose one who is any good at all.

51 minutes ago · Like
Steve Moxon Come again?

51 minutes ago · Like
Jackson Wright This group is only devoted to preaching to the converted and whingeing. Nothing bold or positive is being proposed, only an unseemly competition to acquire greater victimhood than women.

50 minutes ago · Like
Jackson Wright If you cannot find a political party to represent you, you would have to make do with a spokesperson to represent you. That is all I am saying, Steve.

49 minutes ago · Like
Steve Moxon First, there is no necessity for any leader as such, and second, Warren Farrell has in a number of respects fulfilled this role very well.

49 minutes ago · Like
Jackson Wright Who is Warren Farrell?

49 minutes ago · Like
Steve Moxon A troll?

48 minutes ago · Like
Jackson Wright What? There are no British leaders against feminism, are there?

46 minutes ago · Like
Jackson Wright How curious for British men to expect an American to save them. Shades of WW1 and WW2, eh? Are British men collectively a damsel in distress awaiting their knight in shining armour to save them from the feminist dragon? If so, it is a rather comical picture.

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Steve Moxon Fuckwit or what? Is admin on the case?

40 minutes ago · Unlike · 1
Jackson Wright You haven't answered my question, Steve. Who in Britain is going to save your pretty little ass?

38 minutes ago · Like
Steve Moxon I certainly did: (1) "fuckwit" and (2) seven posts back.

35 minutes ago · Like
Jackson Wright http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwqTi6HN0pM

I am figuring that no man who wears a jumper like that can be an alpha or even have a girlfriend.

Appearance before House of Commons inquiry into 'Women in the Workplace', November 2012

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Jackson Wright As for Mike Buchanan, a short angry ugly bitter man is not going to get anywhere with his little party. Definitely beta.

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Jackson Wright No British leader against feminism, and you people don't even think you need one. That is interesting. Denial is a female trait, is it not?

33 minutes ago · Like
Jackson Wright Do you really think you have time to go through the 5 stages of grief as outlined at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model before your civilisation collapses and you become properly Islamified? The smarter of your women will decide not to have anything to do with you if they want to have legitimate children and mate and marry only with Muslim men. Men who want reproductive opportunities will eventually convert to Islam.

Kübler-Ross model - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Jackson Wright Faint heart n'er won fair lady.

28 minutes ago · Like
Jackson Wright Basically, you are the kind of men who want paternity leave if the women are getting maternity leave, rather than saying that no employer should pay their employees to have babies.

In truth, none of you wish to assume the burdens of being a man. What you really want is to have the right to be as effeminate as women and to have the rights you think they have that you do not have.

The patriarchy can only be supported by Abrahamic moral values, which, being totally feminised, you have no interest in adopting anyway.

The anti-religious bias here I have noticed is quite telling.

Therefore you want the rewards without wanting to put in the work. This is of course typically British, in the worst kind of way.

9 minutes ago · Like
Jackson Wright "Fuckwit or what? Is admin on the case?"

I shall doubtless be removed by the admin for hurting your feelings, Steve. What you did was the New Man's equivalent of calling for his mummy.

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Jackson Wright More on the beta male at http://thebattlefieldoflove.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/marginalisation-of-beta-male-more-cause.html

Antifeminist fairy stories

2013-07-07T00:56:00.000+01:00

A woman should treat her husband (who is really her slave) as if he were her master. When an entire civilisation forgets this simple truth, then that civilisation will end.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/the-plow-horse-and-the-princess/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fisherman_and_His_Wife

If I were Kate McCann I would have crawled under a rock and shut up about my negligent parenting years ago

2013-07-06T19:22:00.000+01:00

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2357144/Madeleine-McCann-Why-SHOULD-help-missing-Maddie-ask-Portugals-police-chiefs.html

But this woman just goes on and on and on, quite shamelessly.

She is the middle class version of Fiona McKeown. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-531388/Revealed-The-shoddy-caravan-site-mother-murdered-Goa-teenager-Scarlett-brings-unorthodox-family.html

The horror of it is that this woman should be indulged so much and so often until the whole country is sick of the name of her daughter and her nauseating whining for sympathy and attention.

Now, our unpopular and imbecilic Prime Minister - who went to Eton and did not know what magna carta was - has decided to give his official endorsement for this over-indulgence of bad British mothers.

The economy of the Portuguese may be going down the toilet, but at least they are not so pussified that even their Prime Minister feels he has to kowtow to negligent mothers who are so shameless they simply will not accept any responsibility for their actions.

Madeleine McCann if found would now be 9 and speaking fluent Portuguese, or possibly another language. I can imagine Kate McCann complaining about communication problems were she ever to get her daughter back.

From which group of women do most British men get their sex from?

2013-06-30T18:43:00.000+01:00

https://www.facebook.com/groups/yusuwomenscommittee/

My post was predictably deleted by the feminists of York University, who believe neither in reasoned debate nor free speech.

Claire Khaw

Men get their sex from these sources (1) their wives (2) other men's wives (3) sluts/fornicatresses (who do it for free, technically) and (4) prostitutes (who only do it for money). Which group of men do you think is the most numerous?

Asked by Claire Khaw

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Gillian Love May I begin with a resounding 'fuck off'?

17 minutes ago · Like
Claire Khaw Is this an improper question?

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Gillian Love Off is the direction in which we'd like you to fuck, now

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Claire Khaw Is it cos you think most men in Britain are MCSFs?

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Gillian Love Claire, you are a racist, misogynist shit; frankly I don't care what men are compared to you.

Millie Perkins Saskia Papadakis Laura Ann B and other admins I'd use the banhammer before things get worse.

Her blog: http://thebattlefieldoflove.blogspot.co.uk/

The Battlefield of Love
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@1party4all i understand your question. but i got a sudden chill through my bones as soon as you tweeted me. you are odd.

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Claire Khaw I would be interested to know your views though. Why do you think this is such a dangerous question?

11 minutes ago · Like
Gillian Love We, in contrast, are not interested in your views. Why do you think it is a good idea to post something about 'sluts' and who men like to fuck more on a feminist page? Hint: FUCK OFF

9 minutes ago · Like
Claire Khaw Is slut a taboo word for feminists then?

8 minutes ago · Like
Claire Khaw Is slut a term that is denied by feminists?

8 minutes ago · Like
Claire Khaw Is it a rule that no feminist may call a woman a slut?

8 minutes ago · Like
Gillian Love Kiss my slutty ass, Claire.

8 minutes ago · Like
Claire Khaw Please would you explain the feminist position on sluts/fornicatresses.

7 minutes ago · Like
Claire Khaw Gillian, love, I was hoping to have a sensible discussion.

7 minutes ago · Like
Gillian Love My feminist position on fornicatresses is too racy for public consumption, I suspect. And - ha. I see what you did there. Love. Ha.

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Claire Khaw If I do indeed kiss your slutty ass, will you participate in the poll, Gillian?

6 minutes ago · Like
Claire Khaw Now that you have told us that you are a fornicatress, would like to say from which group of women you think most men get their sex from?

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Claire Khaw My view is that it would be from sluts, because sex is free from sluts. Wives are expensive and prostitutes also charge.

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Slogans against the matriarchy

2013-06-28T03:08:00.001+01:00

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Should MCSF and SPOSSM bachelors be treated as second class citizens?

2013-06-22T18:27:00.001+01:00

If the franchise were restricted only to men, should bachelors be disenfranchised to get a better class of voter?

We have discovered that it is men who say they don't want to get married and never want to have children who do not want their access to online porn restricted.

We have discovered that it is men who say they don't want to get married and never want to have children who are most vociferous and hypocritical in condemning me for proposing to legalise infanticide if it is committed by the parents of the unwanted disabled unviable infant.

We have discovered that it is men who say they don't want to get married and never want to have children who refuse to condemn SSMs https://www.facebook.com/pages/Are-Spinster-Single-Mums-a-burden-on-the-state/417696111659379, because they want their source of sex to stay cheap. Otherwise, they would have to take a wife or pay a prostitute.

Clearly, indiscriminate universal suffrage has been a terrible mistake.

These unmarried men are MCSFs and they constitute the majority of men these days.

Left to themselves these MCSFs would protect SSMs and sluts forever more while filling their time between slut-fucking with masturbating to porn. They will never marry or have children. These men are actually useless as well as immoral.

I am surprised that the BNP (who ought to be concerned about the degeneracy of the white race, you would have thought) do not see this obvious cause of social problems.

Or perhaps they do, but do not wish to alienate the majority of their members who are overwhelmingly MCSFs.

All SPOSSMs are MCSFs but not all MCSFs are SPOSSMs.

SPOSSM - Sex Partner of SSM

MCSF - Morally-Compromised Slut-Fucker

Most voters in Britain are sluts, SSMs or MCSFs.

People deserve the government they get.

After all, you wouldn't expect a nation of sluts, SSMs and MCSFs to deserve good government, would you?

Such people would only deserve a political establishment with the morals of a stupid slut and the behaviour of a bastard.

Feminised men's rights activists cannot discuss difficult questions and resort to censorship by removing me from their group

2013-06-22T16:40:00.001+01:00

https://www.facebook.com/groups/190093287771782/?

Claire Khaw

We know who is in power by those whom we cannot criticise, and we can no longer criticise the promiscuous and stupid woman.

Agree

+1

Disagree

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Claire Khaw http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2344226/Outrage-Serena-Williams-says-Steubenville-rape-victim-lucky-shouldnt-position.html

4 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw I wonder if Steve Moxon agrees.

about an hour ago · Like

Martin Brady ADMIN: don't attempt to single out individual members in this manner, Claire Khaw.

about an hour ago · Like

Claire Khaw Why is this wrong?

about an hour ago · Like

Claire Khaw I actually wanted to know his opinion.

about an hour ago · Like

Martin Brady The manner and context in which you did it was wrong. If you want someone's personal opinion, PM them - don't attempt to put them on the spot in front of other members.

about an hour ago · Like

Claire Khaw I was under the impression that Steve Moxon had political aspirations and would have relished being asked such questions.

50 minutes ago · Like

Steve Moxon No, I don't mind at all, being asked this way -- but the question is rhetorical.
Can I suggest that Claire amalgamates her threads into a small handful that admin then deletes the plethora of Claire's separate ones. ding-dong cools stop

49 minutes ago · Like · 1

Claire Khaw How do we change things then, Steve? How do we overthrow the pornocracy?

47 minutes ago · Edited · Like

Steve Moxon Oh, and I don't have political aspirations: I just research and write.

44 minutes ago · Like

Martin Brady The 'porn-o-cra-cy', indeed?! That sounds like an empty soundbite worthy of a radfem!

44 minutes ago · Like

Claire Khaw I seem to remember you being a UKIP candidate.

43 minutes ago · Like

Claire Khaw Mike Buchanan has political aspirations though.

41 minutes ago · Like

Steve Moxon I was a 'paper' candidate: I agreed to stand only because UKIP could not field sufficient candidates to cover all of the electoral wards in Sheffield. Nigel Farage a few years back asked me to stand as an MEP but I declined on the grounds that it would completely compromise my journalism I was doing at the time, and I could not be populist. That's even more true today.

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Claire Khaw It is a sad time for all of us when standing for office means we cannot speak the truth.

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Do I take it that most men here are not interested in getting married even if fault were reintroduced into divorce and even if their taxes were cut so that a single male income can support a family?

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Martin Brady Oh, and I see that you didn't have the courtesy to support your previous statement either.

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Claire Khaw If you don't agree with anything I have said, please just say why, or ask a question.

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Martin Brady You just don't get it, do you?! It's YOUR job to justify your statements, NOT the job of other members to try to draw some kind of justification or definition of terms out of you! Do you find that this kind of attitude gets you far in many discussions?

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Claire Khaw This is not how it works athttps://www.facebook.com/groups/466234513398453/

Basically, if a thread is ignored then the poster has failed to attract enough interest to elicit a response. If the poster has said something with which someone disagrees, the person disagreeing either contradicts the poster or asks a question.

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Martin Brady Look, Claire Khaw: stop trying to impose the rules of YOUR group on OUR one! YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY HERE - get it?

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Claire Khaw I am not imposing any authority. I make statements, and invite people to contradict them. If you disagree please say how and why.

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Martin Brady Oh, but you ARE, by posting the link to your group as though it had any relevance here; to claim that you're not in the face of the evidence is thoroughly dishonest.

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Claire Khaw

How long have the British been desecrating marriage?

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Claire Khaw For about 50 years?

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Do you agree that we live in a matriarchy?

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Would you have taken the caution if you had been Charles Saatchi?

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The woman from Del Monte says NO.

Government ditches plans to raise motorway speed limit to 80mph amid safety concerns and fears...
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The policy was launched with a fanfare in 2011 by then transport secretary Philip Hammond, who claimed the 70mph limit had been 'discredited' and a rise to 80mph would boost the economy.

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Claire Khaw I meant by that find the thread that this subject was being discussed and type my name like this, Martin Brady

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Martin Brady I'm not going to spoon-feed you, Claire Khaw: be a grown-up about it and do your own work!

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Steve Moxon

Overbalanced coverage of women's matches in the BBC coverage of the Eastbourne tennis tournament.
Is it my imagination, or where are the men's matches?
The women's matches mostly have been displays of fairly weak tennis, with matches often very one-sided, and players unable to produce any sort of consistency.
This contrasts markedly with the competitive standard of the men's matches.
This bias by the BBC is surely part of its risible attempt to pretend that women are just as sports competitive as are men -- hence screening non-popular women's football and golf recently..
At least there wasn't the additional sexism in this tournament of women needing only two sets to the men's three, to then get similar prize money despite also producing a far lower standard of tennis, which is also less popular.

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Mike Buchanan Steve, in a similar vein, in today's Daily Mail (p35) there's an article by Jane Fryer titled, 'Never Mind Andy Murray - it's the ball girls who REALLY go through hell to star at Wimbledon'.

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Claire Khaw Men should not even attempt to beat women in the pursuit of victimhood status, IMHO. It just looks effeminate, disgusting and pathetic. Instead, ruthlessly undermine their arguments (which is very easy to do) and do not relent even when they start boo-hooing.

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Do I take it that most men here are atheists and do not intend to either marry or have legitimate children?

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John Mac Canna am an atheist and I am married with two kids. Please stop trying to put us into boxes

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Claire Khaw I said "most men" not "all men".

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"We must with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion."

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John Mac Canna Religion is anti morality. It corrupts and poisons everything. It is hypocritical, greedy, violent, a corruption, it is born of fear ignorance, promoted by the powerful, it cheats and lies. NOW IT IS weak they have to be nice, but lived in a time place Ireland 1970s when they were strong and they were very nasty. I do not like religion.

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Martin Brady The irony is that many of the censorship measures which the radfems are trying to demand were in place in pre-Mary Robinson Ireland, and that country was hardly a bastion of women's rights!

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Claire Khaw

People deserve the government they get. The British deserve the government they get. People who are mostly sexually immoral should expect to be governed by a government that has no moral principles.

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Claire Khaw I am not Christian.

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Martin Brady Perhaps not, but the kind of ideas you appear to be promoting here have their roots in Christianity, and share their philosophical essentialism. This is NOT that kind of group, okay?

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Claire Khaw

To overthrow the matriarchy, you must be prepared to challenge feminism and say so in no uncertain terms. You must be prepared to say the F word.

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Martin Brady "The patriarchy isn't how the feminists present it, but it is technically, by definition there."

I think you're getting that back-to-front, Owen Eastwood: 'patriarchy' is an ideological construct, with roots in Marxism-Leninism.

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Martin Brady "A patriarchy is a society that condones male promiscuity, and a matriarchy one that condones female promiscuity."

Those are only YOUR personal definitions: the more widely accepted (and yet, still highly contentious) definitions of those terms are more complex.

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Claire Khaw

To ask for men's rights is the wrong way to go about it because this suggests you are applying to the matriarchy for rights, and are therefore in the position of a supplicant. This is a disgraceful and contemptible position, if you are a man.

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Claire Khaw The problem is the same here with UK political parties - one of leadership.

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Steve Wylie ADMIN: Look, Claire - dial it back a bit will you? Take time to scroll through some of the threads of this group and see what are priorities are, before joining in appropriately. We don't do binary voting questions, and we keep politics to a minimum - if at all.

Thank you for your co-operation.

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Claire Khaw

To overthrow the matriarchy, you will have to get either UKIP or BNP to promote an anti-feminist and pro-marriage message. To overthrow the matriarchy, all you have to do is call for the repeal of the Equality Act 2010 and the reintroduction of fault into divorce.

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Claire Khaw Do you agree that the Equality Act should be repealed though?

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Martin Brady That's the start of a whole separate discussion. And if you wish to start that discussion here, I suggest that you post a fresh thread dedicated to that question - WITHOUT a poll at the top of it!

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Serena Williams apologises for speaking the truth and stating the obvious

2013-06-21T17:18:00.000+01:00

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22976603
Serena Williams apologises for Steubenville rape quotes

So it is wrong to say that a 16 year old should NOT be getting blind drunk, unaware of their surroundings, unaware of where they're going, unaware of what they're doing, unaware of who they're with..

It is wrong to say this?

We know who is in power by those whom we cannot criticise.

How did it come about that stupid sluts are now in power?

Time to tell feminism to fuck off.

Should schoolgirls be complaining about rape and promoting feminism? If so, should they complain when people disagree with their position?

2013-06-20T13:51:00.000+01:00

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/mortarboard/2013/jun/20/why-i-started-a-feminist-society

Starting a feminist society arouses as much resentment as an obese woman demanding she has a right to more food at the expense of the starving because she is feeling a bit peckish.

Clearly this schoolgirl is Asian, and Asian men who know her are not yet completely emasculated, dare to challenge feminism.

in a particularly racist comment was told "all this feminism bull won't stop uncle Sanjit from marrying you when you leave school".

This girl is apparently complaining that other Asians said something about her race that she found offensive, which made what they say "racist".

In this way do feminists censor free speech.

"I fear that many boys of my age fundamentally don't respect women. They want us around for parties, banter and most of all sex. But they don't think of us as intellectual equals, highlighted by accusations of being hysterical and over sensitive when we attempted to discuss serious issues facing women."

Why would any woman discuss these issues with adolescent boys????

It is like going around drunk and semi-naked, falling into the beds of strange men and then complaining about rape when it happens.

But that is the idea, you see, the portray women as being privileged by their victimhood. Don't let them get away with it, guys.

Poor old Cleggy, who made a perfectly reasonable statement and then had to apologise abjectedly.

What is Nigella doing but marinating her victimhood status like a steak and letting her husband stew, by going around without her wedding ring? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4976461/Nigella-Lawson-spotted-without-wedding-ring.html Does she think the longer she does this the bigger the divorce settlement will be? Return to husband now, you stupid woman, instead of prolonging this drama. He took the rap to appease you and you are still carrying on like this??

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jameskirkup/100222725/nick-clegg-on-charles-saatchi-and-nigella-lawson-why-wont-the-dpm-condemn-a-hateful-act-of-violence/

Time to tell feminism to fuck off NOW.

Is the new girl guide's motto conclusive evidence that feminism is evil?

2013-06-20T10:36:00.000+01:00

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2322158/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-How-far-Julie-Bentley-prepared-order-make-Girl-Guides-relevant.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jun/18/girl-guides-queen-god-country-promise

What does a girl guide between the age of 10 to 14 know about being true to herself and developing her beliefs, whatever they are?

Meaningless, subjective and an exhortation to the sin of Pride.

I would have reworded the oath thus:

Be prepared.
Be the best I can be.

You would be a fool to allow your daughter to join such an organisation.

Remember:

The girl guides have been taken over by feminists.
Feminism is a cancer of society.
Feminists are cancer cells.
Feminists in positions of authority will introduce ideas and principles that will ultimately result in the degeneracy of your race, nation and civilisation.
Feminism says it is OK to be a slut and an SSM.
For every SSM there is a Morally-Compromised Slut-Fucker.
Most British women are sluts and most British men are morally-compromised slut-fuckers who want their supply of sex to stay cheap because they cannot afford and don't want to take a wife or pay a prostitute.
Whether or not you believe in God, you at least have some idea of God's laws, while no one has the faintest idea what it means for an adolescent girl (who is probably already sexually active if she is British and has white middle class parents who are atheists, divorced and sexually promiscuous) to be true to herself or develop her beliefs, whatever they are.

Advice to Mrs Charles Saatchi

2013-06-20T09:21:00.000+01:00

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigella-lawson-photos-tv-chef-1968435

Don't be stupid, Nigella. Go back to him and stop twatting around being a drama queen. The longer you leave returning to your matrimonial home, the worse it will be for your marriage.

You will feel better about yourself if you get over this bump in your marriage than if you divorce him over this because everyone is telling you to.

Is it likely that he would manhandle you again after this, hmmm? Now get to it.

Charles Saatchi badly-advised to accept caution

2013-06-18T08:00:00.001+01:00

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/18/saatchi-lawson-police-caution-assault

So they called on him and took him to the cop shop. Was he well advised to accept a caution?

The question is: would YOU have accepted the caution if you were him?

I think it was rather foolish of him.

Accepting a caution is an admission of guilt.

If I were him I would have put the ball into her court to see if she would do the dirty on me. If she did, I would then accept the inevitable divorce.

Of course, if she decided not to press charges, I would be very contrite and very grateful and love her even more.

If you had married a woman who would do this to you, then you shouldn't have married her, perhaps, if this was your first offence.

He should have sought legal advice. If he had sought legal advice and was told by his lawyer to accept a caution, then that lawyer should now be named and shamed.

Onlookers claimed Lawson dabbed her eyes on a napkin as her husband tapped his cigarettes on the table.

She is then said to have downed her glass of red wine before beginning to speak in a trembling voice, placing a hand on his left wrist on the table.

At one point, she leaned over and kissed his cheek.

Let us assume for the purposes of this discussion that he did intend to upset her.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_assault

At its highest, it would have been common assault, assuming she were prepared to press charges.

Would she have been prepared to go that far?

Probably not.

She kissed him afterwards, to calm him down, which suggests she had not felt assaulted.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10123447/Police-investigate-after-Nigella-Lawson-attacked-by-husband-at-restaurant.html

If he had slapped her in the face, I doubt she would have kissed him.

How is it domestic violence if it did not take place in a domestic context?

Is Scott's of Mayfair a "domestic context"?

Scott's - a restaurant I haven't been to in years

Will the behaviour of his step-children improve as a result of his capitulation? I anticipate that they will become even more insufferable. He will have lost all authority as husband and stepfather. It is all terribly sad.

If only I had been there to advise them both.

http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/a-jewish-mother-is-what-nigella-and.html
A Jewish mother is what Nigella and Charles Saatchi need

Christian Guy (silly name silly man?) of the Christian Institute says don't stigmatise or criticse sluts

2013-06-12T15:22:00.002+01:00

http://www.christian.org.uk/news/warning-as-1-million-kids-grow-up-without-a-father/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+christianinstitute+%28The+Christian+Institute%29&utm_content=FaceBook

“Family breakdown is an urgent public health issue. Backing commitment and setting a goal of reducing instability does not equate to criticising or stigmatising lone parents or those involved.”

Why not criticise or stigmatise sluts?

Time to stop beating about the bush.

Time to call a spade a spade and a slut a slut.

Time to tell feminism to fuck off.

The Battlefield of Love

Simon Sheppard's Sex and Power

A MANUAL ON MALE-FEMALE RELATIONS

SIMON SHEPPARD

Battlefield of Love now continues at Voice of Reason

Not only do British men not have an alpha male to lead them, most of them are omega males afraid of omega females

Why the alpha male no longer exists in Western society

The brutal truths of being single and looking when you are middle-aged

Gender politics is the politics of race

The Omega Male must eventually make way for the Islamic Male when British women eventually wise up

Feminist admits "The decline of marriage is a natural consequence of gender equality"

What is the difference between a men's rights activist and a real man who is not afraid of saying he is anti-feminist?

What men's rights activists want

Beta males in anti-feminist movement refuse to accept necessity of having an alpha male to lead them

Jackson Wright

Is there anyone who is a leader in the men's rights movement? Or considered the leader?

Men's rights group having a hissy fit about their pathetic whingeing being made public

Further to the recent troll activity by Claire Khaw within the group, here is a post on her blog in which she's used screenshots of selected threads without the consent of the members involved:

Beta males in Eurosceptic parties too scared and stupid to fight feminism even though they are the ones most affected

Here is a case of the type that explains the low stats for mariticide -- husband-murder -- conmpared to uxoricide. It's simply because women use third-party executioners. The reasons the woman has here are familiaely trivial.

This from today's DM.

Antifeminist fairy stories

If I were Kate McCann I would have crawled under a rock and shut up about my negligent parenting years ago

From which group of women do most British men get their sex from?

Claire Khaw

Slogans against the matriarchy

Should MCSF and SPOSSM bachelors be treated as second class citizens?

Feminised men's rights activists cannot discuss difficult questions and resort to censorship by removing me from their group

https://www.facebook.com/groups/190093287771782/? Claire Khaw

We know who is in power by those whom we cannot criticise, and we can no longer criticise the promiscuous and stupid woman.

Claire Khaw

Do I take it that most men here are not interested in getting married even if fault were reintroduced into divorce and even if their taxes were cut so that a single male income can support a family?

Claire Khaw

How long have the British been desecrating marriage?

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Do you agree that we live in a matriarchy?

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Would you have taken the caution if you had been Charles Saatchi?

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The woman from Del Monte says NO.

Do I take it that most men here are atheists and do not intend to either marry or have legitimate children?

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"We must with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion."

People deserve the government they get. The British deserve the government they get. People who are mostly sexually immoral should expect to be governed by a government that has no moral principles.

To overthrow the matriarchy, you must be prepared to challenge feminism and say so in no uncertain terms. You must be prepared to say the F word.

To ask for men's rights is the wrong way to go about it because this suggests you are applying to the matriarchy for rights, and are therefore in the position of a supplicant. This is a disgraceful and contemptible position, if you are a man.

To overthrow the matriarchy, you will have to get either UKIP or BNP to promote an anti-feminist and pro-marriage message. To overthrow the matriarchy, all you have to do is call for the repeal of the Equality Act 2010 and the reintroduction of fault into divorce.

Serena Williams apologises for speaking the truth and stating the obvious

Should schoolgirls be complaining about rape and promoting feminism? If so, should they complain when people disagree with their position?

Is the new girl guide's motto *conclusive* evidence that feminism is evil?

Advice to Mrs Charles Saatchi

Charles Saatchi badly-advised to accept caution

Christian Guy (silly name silly man?) of the Christian Institute says don't stigmatise or criticse sluts

https://www.facebook.com/groups/190093287771782/?

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John Mac Canna am an atheist and I am married with two kids. Please stop trying to put us into boxes

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Claire Khaw I said "most men" not "all men".

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Is the new girl guide's motto conclusive evidence that feminism is evil?