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		<title>Trellis &#038; Vine Talk 9 — church planting and personal discipleship</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Dale | Sam Freney]]></dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Church]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Church planting]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Pastoral Ministry]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode Sam Freney talks to Paul Dale from <a href="http://cbtb.org.au">Church by the Bridge</a> about church planting: gathering a team, one-to-one discipleship, the surprising diversity of Kirribilli, and not reading books about church planting (<a href="http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/TV-Talk-9.mp3">MP3</a>).  <a href="https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2012/10/trellis-vine-talk-9-church-planting-and-personal-discipleship/" class="more-link">(more…)</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode Sam Freney talks to Paul Dale from <a href="http://cbtb.org.au">Church by the Bridge</a> about church planting: gathering a team, one-to-one discipleship, the surprising diversity of Kirribilli, and not reading books about church planting (<a href="http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/TV-Talk-9.mp3">MP3</a>).</p>
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		<title>Trellis &#038; Vine Talk 8 — Sunday sermons: necessary but not sufficient</title>
		<link>https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2012/10/trellis-vine-talk-8-sunday-sermons-necessary-but-not-sufficient/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 22:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Marshall | Tony Payne]]></dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bible study groups]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Church]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Discipleship]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Pastoral Ministry]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Preaching]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode: the relationship between pastoral and preaching ministries, supplementing Sunday sermons, NT orders of services, sermon craft, and forewords by J. I. Packer (<a style="font-style: normal; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/TV-Talk-8.mp3">MP3</a>).  <a href="https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2012/10/trellis-vine-talk-8-sunday-sermons-necessary-but-not-sufficient/" class="more-link">(more…)</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode: the relationship between pastoral and preaching ministries, supplementing Sunday sermons, NT orders of services, sermon craft, and forewords by J. I. Packer (<a style="font-style: normal; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/TV-Talk-8.mp3">MP3</a>).</p>
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		<title>Trellis &#038; Vine Talk 7 — common and uncommon preaching</title>
		<link>https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2012/10/trellis-vine-talk-7-common-and-uncommon-preaching/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 22:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Marshall | Tony Payne]]></dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Evangelism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Gospel]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Preaching]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Sermons]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Trellis & Vine Talk]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode: the extent of preaching, particular gifts &#38; roles, how the word comes to us, and the authority of the preacher (<a style="font-style: normal; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/TV-Talk-7.mp3">MP3</a>).  <a href="https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2012/10/trellis-vine-talk-7-common-and-uncommon-preaching/" class="more-link">(more…)</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode: the extent of preaching, particular gifts &amp; roles, how the word comes to us, and the authority of the preacher (<a style="font-style: normal; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/TV-Talk-7.mp3">MP3</a>).</p>
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		<title>The 4 Ps of being a shepherd (Mark Dever)</title>
		<link>https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2012/06/the-4-ps-of-being-a-shepherd-mark-dever/</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/author/ian-carmichael/]]></dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bible study groups]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Pastoral Ministry]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In this talk from a Matthias Media conference in 2009, Mark Dever talks about what it means to be a &#8216;shepherd&#8217; of God&#8217;s people, and what a shepherd does.  <a href="https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2012/06/the-4-ps-of-being-a-shepherd-mark-dever/" class="more-link">(more…)</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this talk from a Matthias Media conference in 2009, Mark Dever talks about what it means to be a &#8216;shepherd&#8217; of God&#8217;s people, and what a shepherd does.</p>
<p><a href="http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/peoplegrowth-dever.mp3">Download MP3 file</a> 32mb/45mins<br />
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<p>[As a matter of historical interest, this is the address in which Mark talks about the newly released &#8220;The Trellis and the Vine&#8221;. It was the audio and video of this very positive recommendation that got picked up by bloggers and (humanly speaking) led to the widespread interest in the book.]</p>
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		<title>Are ministry &#8216;trellises&#8217; a necessary evil?</title>
		<link>https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2012/06/are-ministry-trellises-a-necessary-evil/</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[Pastoral Ministry]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Trellis & Vine Talk]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I asked this question recently to a bunch of young ministry trainees at a &#8216;Trellis and Vine&#8217; workshop, and I was delighted at their answer.  <a href="https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2012/06/are-ministry-trellises-a-necessary-evil/" class="more-link">(more…)</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked this question recently to a bunch of young ministry trainees at a &#8216;Trellis and Vine&#8217; workshop, and I was delighted at their answer.</p>
<p>They thought initially that I was looking for the answer &#8216;yes&#8217;; because after all I had been spending the day talking about the importance of &#8216;vine&#8217; work (that is, the work of prayerfully speaking the word of God so that people are converted and grow), and not getting too bogged down or distracted in the &#8216;trellis&#8217; work that supports it.</p>
<p>But they were unwilling to give the &#8216;yes&#8217; answer, because they (rightly) perceived that ministry support activities, structures and programs are not evil. Far from it. They are in fact the good gift of God to facilitate vine work. They only become damaging and unhelpful when they are misunderstood or misused, as is the case with all God&#8217;s gifts. In fact, one wag suggested it was like money; it&#8217;s only the <em>love</em> of trellises that is a root of all kinds of evil!</p>
<p>This discussion came to mind yesterday when I watched a brief <a href="http://thegenevapush.com/resources/article/management_is_actually_ministry">video</a> from Andrew Heard over at The Geneva Push about whether &#8216;management is ministry&#8217;. I think Andrew expresses it really well here. It&#8217;s not the trellis <em>or</em> the vine; it&#8217;s both-and. We mustn&#8217;t lose our focus on the fundamental power and importance of Bible and prayer (i.e. vine work), but we also mustn&#8217;t stop valuing and putting energy into smart, faithful, effective structures (&#8216;trellises&#8217;) that facilitate the growth of that work among more and more people.</p>
<p>This is especially true if we lift our eyes beyond where we are now, and plan to grow. If there are 80 people in our church, then we may not need very sophisticated ministry trellises, and we might not need to think too hard about them—except perhaps to trim them down so that the weight of them isn&#8217;t killing us. But what if we had a vision for growing our particular vine to 200 people in three years through evangelizing the lost who are all around us (i.e. through vine work)? How would we support and cope with that growth? How would we train and mobilize our members for the task? How would we look after and disciple new converts? What sort of building would we need, finances would we need, administrative services would we need?</p>
<p>That would require some bold, creative and costly trellis thinking.</p>
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		<title>Trellis &#038; Vine Talk 6 — discipleship teams</title>
		<link>https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2012/03/trellis-vine-talk-6-discipleship-teams/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Marshall | Tony Payne]]></dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bible study groups]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode: The swinging 60s, the failure of small groups, what growth looks like in a group, operating as a team, and what they can do together (<a href="http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/TV-Talk-6.mp3">MP3</a>).  <a href="https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2012/03/trellis-vine-talk-6-discipleship-teams/" class="more-link">(more…)</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode: The swinging 60s, the failure of small groups, what growth looks like in a group, operating as a team, and what they can do together (<a href="http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/TV-Talk-6.mp3">MP3</a>).</p>
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		<title>Trellis &#038; Vine Talk 5 — disciple-making: a mental virus</title>
		<link>https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2011/12/trellis-vine-talk-5-%e2%80%94-disciple-making-a-mental-virus/</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 21:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Marshall | Tony Payne]]></dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Everyday Christianity]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Trellis & Vine Talk]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/?p=14944</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode: &#8216;Disciple-making&#8217;—who, how, church membership, learning, the basic activity of Christian ministry, gifts, and making a start (<a href="http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/TV-Talk-5.mp3">MP3</a>).</p>
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<p>&#160;  <a href="https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2011/12/trellis-vine-talk-5-%e2%80%94-disciple-making-a-mental-virus/" class="more-link">(more…)</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode: &#8216;Disciple-making&#8217;—who, how, church membership, learning, the basic activity of Christian ministry, gifts, and making a start (<a href="http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/TV-Talk-5.mp3">MP3</a>).</p>
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		<title>Trellis &#038; Vine Talk 4 – all about small groups</title>
		<link>https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2011/11/trellis-vine-talk-4-%e2%80%93-all-about-small-groups/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Marshall | Tony Payne]]></dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Everyday Christianity]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Trellis & Vine Talk]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In this fourth episode of <em>Trellis &#38; Vine Talk</em>, Tony and Col discuss the difficulty of summarising problems with small groups, the negative connotations of &#8216;community&#8217;, living the Christian life with other people, mission in a group setting, and the goals of a small group (<a href="http://www.matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/TV-Talk-4.mp3">MP3</a>).  <a href="https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2011/11/trellis-vine-talk-4-%e2%80%93-all-about-small-groups/" class="more-link">(more…)</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this fourth episode of <em>Trellis &amp; Vine Talk</em>, Tony and Col discuss the difficulty of summarising problems with small groups, the negative connotations of &#8216;community&#8217;, living the Christian life with other people, mission in a group setting, and the goals of a small group (<a href="http://www.matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/TV-Talk-4.mp3">MP3</a>).</p>
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		<title>Trellis &#038; Vine Talk 3 – are evangelistic events worth it?</title>
		<link>https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2011/10/trellis-vine-talk-3-%e2%80%93-are-evangelistic-events-worth-it/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Marshall | Tony Payne]]></dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Evangelism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Everyday Christianity]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Trellis & Vine Talk]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[This is the third episode of Trellis &#038; Vine Talk, in which Tony and Col discuss fads and trends in evangelism, the value of evangelistic events, re-inventing Sunday night, and going to church twice a month. <a href="https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2011/10/trellis-vine-talk-3-%e2%80%93-are-evangelistic-events-worth-it/">(more…)</a>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the third episode of <em>Trellis &amp; Vine Talk</em>, in which Tony and Col discuss fads and trends in evangelism, the value of evangelistic events, re-inventing Sunday night, and going to church twice a month (<a href="http://www.matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/TV-Talk-3.mp3">MP3</a>).</p>
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		<title>Trellis &#038; Vine Talk 2 &#8211; who is your sheep?</title>
		<link>https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2011/09/trellis-vine-talk-2-who-is-your-sheep/</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Marshall | Tony Payne]]></dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Everyday Christianity]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Trellis & Vine Talk]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[This is the second episode of Trellis &#038; Vine Talk, in which Tony and Col discuss discipleship gurus, what (or who) exactly is a lay pastor, a shepherds heart, and ministry of the word. Listen to it here, or download the file to catch up on it later (MP3). <a href="https://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2011/09/trellis-vine-talk-2-who-is-your-sheep/">(more…)</a>]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the second episode of <em>Trellis &amp; Vine Talk</em>, in which Tony and Col discuss discipleship gurus, what (or who) exactly is a lay pastor, a shepherds heart, and ministry of the word. Listen to it here, or download the file to catch up on it later (<a href="http://www.matthiasmedia.com/briefing/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/TV-Talk-2.mp3">MP3</a>).</p>
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