<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/" xmlns:blogger="http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0" version="2.0"><channel><atom:id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670</atom:id><lastBuildDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2024 00:33:39 +0000</lastBuildDate><title>The Coptic Atheist</title><description>The ramblings of a newly enlightened atheist, formerly a devout Coptic Orthodox Christian.</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/</link><managingEditor>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</managingEditor><generator>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>35</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-8291307063743707472</guid><pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-11-05T22:13:53.886-05:00</atom:updated><title>Yes we can</title><description>Wow&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is huge.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bigger than that he&#39;s better on healthcare, jobs, or security&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The most intelligent and honest candidate won.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A man who&#39;s first impulse is to bring us all together to solve our problems&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We finally have a leader who speaks to the better angels of our nature&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width=&quot;425&quot; 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in medicine.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Enough from me, go read it:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/dennett06/dennett06_index.html&quot;&gt;Daniel Dennett: Thank GOODNESS!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Oh, and be sure to vote!&lt;/div&gt;</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/10/thank-goodness-for-dennett.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-2724547586229778747</guid><pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:55:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-10-08T21:03:21.194-04:00</atom:updated><title>And Elvis didn&#39;t do no drugs...</title><description>I love Penn and Teller&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here&#39;s their take on the Bible.  Because you&#39;re on this blog, you will either enjoy it or be horribly offended&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;object width=&quot;425&quot; 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id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_0&quot;&gt;forebearers&lt;/span&gt; of our lawfulness.  &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-error&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_1&quot;&gt;Hitchens&lt;/span&gt; loves to point out, that this interpretation &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_2&quot;&gt;demands&lt;/span&gt; that one believes that all humans living before that point in history were murdering and coveting and stealing from one another.  And that they thought it was okay.  Don&#39;t we have more self respect than that.  &lt;/div&gt;</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/10/and-elvis-didnt-do-no-drugs.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-5118561409668729973</guid><pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:28:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-09-26T20:37:52.236-04:00</atom:updated><title>Religious Experiences for All!</title><description>Hi, Sorry for the lack of material lately.  I&#39;ve been insanely busy and my blogging has suffered.  I received a comment today, I thought I&#39;d bring the conversation to the main page.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 23px; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;font-family:&#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;;font-size:17;&quot;  &gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A supreme being does not need to correct the very natural laws he has brought into existence. Religion aside, I find the very fact that a single event caused this very nature, with all its complexity, to exist to be quite fascinating.&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If &quot;sin&quot; is to be redefined in non-religious terms then it would be taking a something such as self-consciousness for granted.&lt;br /&gt;I find it amazing that the non-relgious go so adamantly about attacking faith and praising knowledge. Faith and knowledge are inseparable. One has to &quot;believe&quot; one&#39;s consciousness to &quot;know&quot; that one does exist. One has to &quot;believe&quot; one&#39;s senses to &quot;know&quot; that there is a reality external to oneself. In that sense, one&#39;s whole perception of the world is a &quot;belief&quot;.&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The religious premise is that there is yet another reality not accessible to the senses but is accessible to directly to the consciousness; the very thing that chooses to believe of the existence of self and the trustworthiness of the senses. Those who have experienced the presence of the supreme being report it as being perceived directly by their consciousness thus bypassing their senses; and they do report the perception of a reality external to themselves. One could call them crazy, one could call them delusional, one could also call them liars but I have yet to hear a reasonable proof that such experience cannot exist without proving that the very existence of any external reality can be a delusion.&lt;br /&gt;If you have never had such an experience there is nothing that anybody can tell you about religion, or a supreme being that will convince you. If you had that experience, however, and chose to discount it as a delusion then I would very much like to know why you trust your perception of any other reality more than that experience. At the end, one could always choose not to believe in the existence of a supreme being. But, technically speaking, one will never be able to claim being non-religious. There is always the very primitive religion; a belief in the existence of oneself and the existence of an external reality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;And here is my Reply&lt;br /&gt;Hello, thanks for posting.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Certainly the existence of our conscious minds is improbable.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But does it really require faith to believe you exist?&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If it does, than it is not the same faith that is required to believe something which cannot be seen nor touched nor experienced by a sense of any physical sort.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That is, you are equivocating in your use of the word “faith”.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For example, I have, in a sense, ‘faith’ that the entity to whom I am now replying is a human being accessing the internet.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Is it possible that an alien, or a cat or god himself has typed this message to me?&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Maybe.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But my belief in your nature is based on my knowledge of the world around me.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In a hundred years, if we have sentient computers and alien visitors my assumption would be invalid. When you say that I have faith in my senses, this is the sort of ‘faith’ I think you mean.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But believing something for good reason isn’t faith.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;At least this isn’t faith in the religious sense.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In Hebrews, Paul describes faith as “&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unsee&lt;/span&gt;n”.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Now Paul didn’t know about microscopes and waves and so forth so don’t get caught up on the literal ramifications of ‘unseen’.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Faith, in a religious context then is belief for which no tangible evidence can be provided, for Paul the faith is the evidence in and of itself.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;On a brief tangent, the reasoning in this area of can become both circular and nasty. &lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;In psychology we talk about a patient’s investment in a problem.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Once you are asked to make large sacrifices or shown negative consequences, you are more likely to persist in a destructive behavior (loving your fraternity after they haze you, or staying in a failing business venture). &lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;What then can we make of the matter of faith in 1 Corinthians 15 “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;”.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What terror the men of Corinth must have felt when they heard these words.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;So I disagree vigorously with your use of the word faith to define the everyday occurrence of taking for granted the obvious and natural state of our humanity while using it also (correctly) to define an intangible belief.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;To refer to the acknowledgement of one’s existence as a “primitive religion” is absurd because to lack such an acknowledgement is a sign of serious mental derangement.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;Now, the most interesting thing you have said is about religious experiences.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Let me make another assumption (call it ‘faith’ if you like), that you are a monotheist.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;You believe that there is only one god, namely yours.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So then, let me surprise you by saying I have had religious experiences.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I do not count myself crazy.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Nor do I count other Christians as crazy for having the same experiences.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What about Muslims with religious experiences?&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What of the archangel giving the prophet the Koran? &lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Were all the religious people of the polytheistic cultures crazy?&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I don’t think so, do you?&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They too speak of religious experiences, of oracles and shamans.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They are infidels to you and you are atheistic to their gods, but your defense of religious experience defends them too. &lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;If a religious experience is proof of the validity of faith, why don’t you worship at the altar of Zeus?&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Of course that would be absurd.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;You want to show me Christian (if that is your faith) experiences to prove Christian truth.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;You cannot have it both ways.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I readily admit religious experiences happen and are powerful subjective occurrences.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, one of two things must follow from this.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Either such experiences are open to all people, are a part of our consciousness and mean prove nothing because of their very spread across religious traditions throughout human history.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Or somehow they prove the validity of faith.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This is what you might wish were true but it is unlikely.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;People of all faiths can have such experiences but for them all to be valid is impossible.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;How can the ancient pantheons be reconciled with the demands of the monotheist?&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;How can the three monotheists reconcile amongst themselves?&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;How can the denominations within them be reconciled?&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They cannot.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Zeus cannot exist if Yahweh exists.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Gentile Jesus and Islam’s Allah cannot both exist, they contradict each other directly!&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If people of any faith, of any denomination, of any number of gods can have a religious experience, then such experiences cease to be about religion.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If you wish to study such phenomena I suggest you study people instead.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;to anon:  Feel free to contribute more in the comment section of this post.&lt;br /&gt;to the rest of you:  Jump in as well, if you like&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 23px; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;font-family:&#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;;font-size:17;&quot;  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/09/religious-experiences-for-all.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-8753563710598667198</guid><pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-08-08T21:40:14.821-04:00</atom:updated><title>Let your voice be heard</title><description>Hi there folks,&lt;br /&gt;I&#39;m just peaking my head in to drop off a survey.  It concerns a topic that I wonder about when considering my Coptic brethren.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do you think about evolution?  What do you think it means and why do you feel the way you do?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Head over to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.evolutionsurvey.com/&quot;&gt;http://www.evolutionsurvey.com/&lt;/a&gt; and let them know what&#39;s on your mind&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I signed up to receive the results of the survey and I&#39;ll discuss them here when they come out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have at it!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;atheos</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/08/let-your-voice-be-heard.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>1</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-5980088248195380694</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-08-05T22:24:45.928-04:00</atom:updated><title>Brilliant!</title><description>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_KpGX6lWZbn37Db2222XDPDVoz7s7gYlYx7spxi8HB5nQcVxYMYfkB7AdXdmzn2tMpwNPAT6Elaf0mKMqTKZVq8kC1HRu5SmjFuT5-xNcKgHK-3vORTbiMtZ6BENKyDhija9UdOB_AbV4/s1600-h/doonsbury-creationist.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_KpGX6lWZbn37Db2222XDPDVoz7s7gYlYx7spxi8HB5nQcVxYMYfkB7AdXdmzn2tMpwNPAT6Elaf0mKMqTKZVq8kC1HRu5SmjFuT5-xNcKgHK-3vORTbiMtZ6BENKyDhija9UdOB_AbV4/s400/doonsbury-creationist.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5231224436446673746&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#39;ve had this conversation with theists as a thought experiment.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/08/05/the-creationist-medical-dilemma/&quot;&gt;This version &lt;/a&gt;is way funnier.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/GABRIE%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-7.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/GABRIE%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-8.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/08/brilliant.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_KpGX6lWZbn37Db2222XDPDVoz7s7gYlYx7spxi8HB5nQcVxYMYfkB7AdXdmzn2tMpwNPAT6Elaf0mKMqTKZVq8kC1HRu5SmjFuT5-xNcKgHK-3vORTbiMtZ6BENKyDhija9UdOB_AbV4/s72-c/doonsbury-creationist.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-3142540889723743327</guid><pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-07-13T21:15:49.309-04:00</atom:updated><title>Thoughts?</title><description>I received a question via email, and I don&#39;t have a good answer.  So I&#39;ll post it here, maybe one of you will be able to add something. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The sender wants to know if there is a group, in whatever form, of Copts turned atheist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; My gut feeling is &quot;no&quot;  because the title of this blog came from me googling &quot;coptic atheist&quot; to try and find someone like me.  After dealing with that for a while, I started blogging.  Anyway, if you have any other ideas, post in the comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;atheos</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/07/thoughts.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>2</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-7094829770533227544</guid><pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-06-01T18:07:06.570-04:00</atom:updated><title>Christianity is unoriginal and so am I</title><description>Well I haven&#39;t been posting because I&#39;ve been insanely busy.  I do occasionally get to read other blogs.  My admiration for &lt;a href=&quot;http://friendlyatheist.com/&quot;&gt;The Friendly Atheist&lt;/a&gt; is no secret.  He &lt;a href=&quot;http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/06/01/how-original-is-christianity/&quot;&gt;posted &lt;/a&gt;a great video, it shows the parallels between the origin of Christianity and earlier pagan faiths.    It all rolls back to one of my central thesis:  that the concept of religion is laughable when we look at it through the lens of human history. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So if you think that you are so very clever for worshiping the son of a virgin, born in winter, who died, was buried, and arose from the dead, there&#39;s some bad news.  You are quite unoriginal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;atheos&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height=&quot;355&quot; width=&quot;425&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/Dr767bZQWFw&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rel=0&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot;&gt;&lt;embed src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/Dr767bZQWFw&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rel=0&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; wmode=&quot;transparent&quot; height=&quot;355&quot; width=&quot;425&quot;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/06/christianity-is-unoriginal-and-so-am-i.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>4</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-8519325393511587052</guid><pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:05:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-05-24T08:05:00.521-04:00</atom:updated><title>Sad news, but a silver lining</title><description>&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot;&gt;Hey there, sorry about the dearth of posting lately, I&#39;ve been crazy busy.  That&#39;s why they invented blackberrys.  And coffee breaks.   Don&#39;t tell anyone...   Enjoy! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot;&gt;A &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1131778&quot;&gt;new study&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot;&gt; demonstrated a negative &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:ARIAL, HELVETICA;&quot; &gt;correlation between spirituality and performance in law school.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which means that people who identified as religious tended to do worse than those who didn&#39;t.  And it was more predictive of a bad law student than either low LSATS or low undergrad GPA. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Not having read the actual thing I couldn&#39;t comment as to validity.  That aside, it&#39;s an interesting topic.  I&#39;ve always wondered what kind of people (personality types, etc) &quot;make it&quot; in different fields.  I&#39;d like to see some studies on med students. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another study has found that &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/twominds/2008/05/hippies_might_have_something_g.php&quot;&gt;frankincense &lt;/a&gt;smoke &quot;&lt;/span&gt; activates poorly understood ion channels in the brain to alleviate anxiety or depression&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:ARIAL, HELVETICA;&quot; &gt;&quot;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wow, another whole reason religious people are so happy.  It also explains the pleasant smile on that incense dude at the mall.  Ok, maybe he&#39;s just stoned.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So basically all you copts inhaling the shoria (censer) every week are getting a free dose of prosac, sweet!  (OK, in reality they did the study with an isolate of a chemical in the resin.  And they did it on mice.  Must I always let science stand in the way of a good joke?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So in short, if you&#39;re really religious you will flunk out of law school.  But at least you&#39;ll be happy&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take care&lt;br /&gt;atheos&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/05/sad-news-but-silver-lining.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>3</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-6473410337588728671</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:50:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-05-15T01:53:20.902-04:00</atom:updated><title>I love cartoons, a lot</title><description>Ok, one more, this one might be my favorite,&lt;br /&gt;atheos&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;http://www.atheist-community.org/atheisteve/index.php?id=22&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiDhz8iFnO7VoC0ITYkyQXgikRrcmWRnrYWsF99gbu9WGmKq0XzCIceaxKBsfBEqaaa1wy6YXbeaZUE-qxH6p97D8uGBgYmdjrpLoI3J_MOQYeSHu2u376k45_z6-btCMNQH9jj9We2EUhm/s400/1.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5200478079483504274&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/05/i-love-cartoons-lot.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiDhz8iFnO7VoC0ITYkyQXgikRrcmWRnrYWsF99gbu9WGmKq0XzCIceaxKBsfBEqaaa1wy6YXbeaZUE-qxH6p97D8uGBgYmdjrpLoI3J_MOQYeSHu2u376k45_z6-btCMNQH9jj9We2EUhm/s72-c/1.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-7429231903063570404</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:07:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-05-15T01:49:57.931-04:00</atom:updated><title>I love cartoons</title><description>I&#39;ve posted cartoons here before, atheism + cartoon = win.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJEhKOvz1piRDRysbilBqHKGNaoBamRSD3bh1B7ExywTR-ZVioOKYhrZcs2EV5SQSCc1vrBYP7ev77DpK4gJr_qyTjhsNfK3o1dC4-fV5efJR-L6oRQ5MaC88FOtq3EXuu6MpiNILQ0n8f/s1600-h/1.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atheist-community.org/atheisteve/&quot;&gt;&quot;Atheist Eve&quot;&lt;/a&gt; is by Tracie Harris in Austin Texas. I just discovered these and they&#39;re great.   I enjoy the snarky, wordy cartoons she does. I&#39;ll post three that I really like. I&#39;m still going through them so I won&#39;t declare favorites just yet.&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJEhKOvz1piRDRysbilBqHKGNaoBamRSD3bh1B7ExywTR-ZVioOKYhrZcs2EV5SQSCc1vrBYP7ev77DpK4gJr_qyTjhsNfK3o1dC4-fV5efJR-L6oRQ5MaC88FOtq3EXuu6MpiNILQ0n8f/s1600-h/1.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;http://www.atheist-community.org/atheisteve/index.php?id=25&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3JnYnBuyQcfcr6mlneddH1NZBqH4A39BUtu5eJZuaWS58SzPj0ama5Zgic86s062jZwjziC5gNsSd6oauEpsAA0NO4flbluKcCft2S6GZl6nhGy1aSETaLDMBA5z6joOmeAwGscv_pjQm/s400/3.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5200473440918824578&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;http://www.atheist-community.org/atheisteve/index.php?id=19&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJEhKOvz1piRDRysbilBqHKGNaoBamRSD3bh1B7ExywTR-ZVioOKYhrZcs2EV5SQSCc1vrBYP7ev77DpK4gJr_qyTjhsNfK3o1dC4-fV5efJR-L6oRQ5MaC88FOtq3EXuu6MpiNILQ0n8f/s400/1.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5200473436623857250&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;http://www.atheist-community.org/atheisteve/index.php?id=43&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg1WRU69OXt5sWpUVqVMGHEDVI_OPx0vLmKbRJo6grD3jrmp2WsysBiTRwnVDT3Ail9Btr_LgKqtcMxsCzf1YbLnBMUY_G3USGcY34t0v4KrlcG1Al0mGFKrSZzyZtZQnM2hQnM_-kHHQWN/s400/2.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5200473440918824562&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/05/i-love-cartoons.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3JnYnBuyQcfcr6mlneddH1NZBqH4A39BUtu5eJZuaWS58SzPj0ama5Zgic86s062jZwjziC5gNsSd6oauEpsAA0NO4flbluKcCft2S6GZl6nhGy1aSETaLDMBA5z6joOmeAwGscv_pjQm/s72-c/3.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-1417355648959846164</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-05-14T21:50:28.754-04:00</atom:updated><title>Where do atheists come from?</title><description>I read an interesting article that I thought I&#39;d share.  Kieran Bennett looked at a repository of deconversion stories to determine common reasons &lt;a href=&quot;http://kieranbennett.com/index.php/2008/05/12/what-works-in-deconverting-christians/&quot;&gt;Christians deconvert&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#39;ve posted my own &lt;a href=&quot;http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/01/deconversion-story.html&quot;&gt;deconversion &lt;/a&gt;story here before.  As I thought, my story is far from unique.  I fall into a few of the categories laid out over there.  It&#39;s a thought provoking read, no matter what your perspective on faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, and I have to thank the Friendly Atheist for the link, let me do so by linking you to a great post of his from a while back, &lt;a href=&quot;http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/01/25/18-unconvincing-arguments-for-god/&quot;&gt;18 Unconvincing Arguments for God&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;take care,&lt;br /&gt;The Coptic Atheist</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/05/where-do-atheists-come-from.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>1</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-1859761170510217545</guid><pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-05-09T19:33:39.107-04:00</atom:updated><title>Hitchens at his best</title><description>Christopher Hitchens is one of my favorite speakers.  He&#39;s also a very accomplished author, I just haven&#39;t gotten around to reading any of his books [I guess that makes me &lt;a href=&quot;http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/04/hiatus-for-heathens.html&quot;&gt;close minded&lt;/a&gt; ;)].  Here someone has taken what I assume is the opening statement to a debate and replaced the video with illustrative pictures.  Pretty cool, and a good study break for this busy apostate.  Enjoy.&lt;br /&gt;-atheos&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part One&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height=&quot;355&quot; width=&quot;425&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/CYaQpRZJl18&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rel=0&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot;&gt;&lt;embed src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/CYaQpRZJl18&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rel=0&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; wmode=&quot;transparent&quot; height=&quot;355&quot; width=&quot;425&quot;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part Two&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height=&quot;355&quot; width=&quot;425&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/zkHuvErbpd0&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rel=0&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot;&gt;&lt;embed src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/zkHuvErbpd0&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rel=0&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; wmode=&quot;transparent&quot; height=&quot;355&quot; width=&quot;425&quot;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/05/hitchens-at-his-best.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-7842947417179383211</guid><pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 04:10:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-05-05T00:15:52.753-04:00</atom:updated><title>Still on Hiatus (kinda)</title><description>Hi there.  So while I&#39;m still away from home, I did manage duck into an hourly internet joint to reply to some comments.  Check out my replies to comments on &lt;a href=&quot;http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/04/hiatus-for-heathens.html&quot;&gt;Hiatus for Heathens&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/04/call-for-evidence.html&quot;&gt;A call for evidence&lt;/a&gt;.  I&#39;ll be back up an running soon. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;atheos</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/05/still-on-hiatus-kinda.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-754222892833832866</guid><pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-04-14T19:05:53.017-04:00</atom:updated><title>Hiatus for heathens</title><description>I&#39;ll be going on hiatus for a bit.  I might have time to sneak in one more post, we&#39;ll see. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just wanted to put this up so that the 3 of you (that may be stretching it :)) who read this thing don&#39;t miss me terribly. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also wanted to invite any of you who want me to tackle a specific topic to email me.   Questions (about me, atheism, whatever) are fine too.  In fact I&#39;ve tried to get in contact with one person who wrote me a question, I&#39;m still waiting for a response (if this sounds like you, check your email). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#39;ll keep your name confidential and all that good stuff.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take care&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;atheos</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/04/hiatus-for-heathens.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>2</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-4929738523517726085</guid><pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-04-12T20:43:12.165-04:00</atom:updated><title>Appeal to Celebrity</title><description>As I am a great lover of argument and debate (perhaps I should have been an atheist law student...)  I try to keep my mind sharp enough to spot logical fallacies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Appeal to celebrity is just such a fallacy, just because Jordon recommends a brand of underwear, it doesn&#39;t mean they&#39;re any good.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Similarly, I wouldn&#39;t advocate a world view just because a bunch of celebrities espouse it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That said, this video, showing famous folks who are atheists is pretty cool.  There were a few that surprised me (I didn&#39;t expect Lance Armstrong to be there). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a full list (including agnostics and ambiguous) at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.celebatheists.com&quot;&gt;celebatheists&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So check it out, but of course make up your own mind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height=&quot;355&quot; width=&quot;425&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/L3BuvYtp7qs&amp;amp;hl=en&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot;&gt;&lt;embed src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/L3BuvYtp7qs&amp;amp;hl=en&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; wmode=&quot;transparent&quot; height=&quot;355&quot; width=&quot;425&quot;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/04/appeal-to-celebrity.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-6343668060247502948</guid><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-04-11T14:21:30.015-04:00</atom:updated><title>Great Debates continue</title><description>Those of you who follow on RSS readers may be wondering where I&#39;ve been lately.  Well I&#39;ve been engaged in a great conversation on evidence with a commenter.  I just posted my latest response.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We most certainly have our differences but it&#39;s been a fun conversation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are narrower in topic and lengthier than the posts I usually do, check them out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4908864535075885670&amp;amp;postID=3352909870998125524&quot;&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;if you like.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;atheos</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/04/great-debates-continue.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-3352909870998125524</guid><pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-04-06T16:54:57.280-04:00</atom:updated><title>A call for evidence</title><description>An anonymous commenter &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4908864535075885670&amp;amp;postID=5449120936625077663&quot;&gt;wrote something &lt;/a&gt;in response to one of my posts:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It seems as though you haven&#39;t tried finding any real evidence for religion, Christianity in specific. If you are up to opening your mind, read the book &quot;What&#39;s so Great about Christianity&quot; by Dinesh D&#39;souza..I am sure it would stimulate your mind&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To which I responded&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Hi Anonymous,&lt;br /&gt;I&#39;m curious what you mean by &quot;evidence for religion.&quot; My definition of evidence would be something like &quot;undeniable, incontrovertible and reproducibly verifiable&quot;. And because all such statements, by definition, can only apply to natural phenomena I am puzzled as to what evidence exists for religion which is supernatural. I appreciate your book recommendation, but I have little time for reading. Perhaps you could summarize it for me. I assure you that I am quite open minded. &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;My atheism is a call for evidence. &lt;/span&gt;If I can be convinced of the existence of god by evidence of the kind I described, then of course, I would be religious. I welcome you to continue comments here, or email me at the address provided on my profile.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(emphasis added)&lt;br /&gt;Well I wanted to bring the issue up front, to this page.  Why &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;isn&#39;t&lt;/span&gt; there evidence, of the kind I described, for the existence of god?  I can produce evidence for tangible things, obviously.  Anyone familiar with basic physical science can demonstrate core principles of chemistry or biology which puzzled our predecessors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can even prove the intangible.  I have perfectly valid reasons for believing in my family&#39;s love for me, for example.  The amount of support and comfort that my family provides me is explainable only if they feel for me what I feel for them.  Unconditional love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what proof would I expect for an omnipotent creator?  How about a book of genesis that was filled with statements about the universe that weren&#39;t known to human beings 5000 years ago.  For example, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qymoktf0wY&quot;&gt;watch this video&lt;/a&gt;.  If Genesis sounded like that, I&#39;d gladly be a christian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And before I end this call for evidence, let me give it some biblical backing.  Undoubtedly some will claim that I am testing god, or that he is testing us by planting evidence that this planet is  4 billion years old, etc.   Let me remind you of the words of Paul (Romans 1:20)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span id=&quot;en-NIV-27936&quot; class=&quot;sup&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;For since the creation of the world God&#39;s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well we have seen and understood the world, and I see no evidence of a god in it.  We have evidence of a natural progression of biological forms.  Of a universe that defies the bronze age mentality of the bible.  We have that evidence, and god is without excuse.   If he was the Alpha of this system we would &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;clearly&lt;/span&gt; see his hand.   Instead we see only natural cause and effect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So provide evidence if you can.  I would gladly believe.  But I will no longer believe for the sake of belief.  I will no longer cling to an ancient mentality simply because it is ancient.  I will no longer hold onto a book simply because some of it is moral, or inspiring.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I demand evidence.  And so should you.</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/04/call-for-evidence.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>21</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-273040341536900076</guid><pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-04-02T14:05:33.390-04:00</atom:updated><title>Wink wink</title><description>Today I want to talk about a very confusing phenomenon in Coptic/Egyptian society.  Maybe it&#39;s common among other religious groups too, but my experience dictates my blogging.  Usually, it goes like this.  A young adult is having a disagreement with a parent (we Copts are tied to our family&#39;s opinions and dictates far longer than other peoples, it seems).  The parent will end the conversation with something along the lines of: inshalallah we&#39;ll see (if god wills it, ie ain&#39;t gonna happen).  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is infuriating!  I know it&#39;s not just my family, I&#39;ve seen it in other homes too.  So just like that, the conversation is ended and the inshallah-er wins by default.   Another variant favored by the younger set is the &quot;have you prayed about it&quot; approach.  It&#39;s a lot less dismissive, but often accomplishes the same thing because the person receiving said attack is meant to &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;go home&lt;/span&gt; and pray about it.  Thus ensuring an easy victory for the attacker (forgive the violent term).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, that alone is fine.  We can claim that it really is faith that drives people to say things like that, not a desire to make the conversation end, feel free to draw your own conclusions.     I&#39;m more likely to give the benefit of the doubt to the &quot;have you prayed about it&quot; people, but again their motivations may not be totally faith based. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What&#39;s a scientist to do?  Test of course!  So I take it upon myself to turn the tables.  I will always say I &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;have  &lt;/span&gt;prayed about whatever course of action is under discussion.  Of course I didn&#39;t.  I have news for you, I didn&#39;t always fast every day of lent either.  Seeing as I am now an apostate, a fib about prayer in the name of science seems far less deceptive.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what happens?  Invariably I get called out for bullshit!  Maybe the inshallah or &quot;pray about it&quot; folks never actually expect a response.  Especially one as facile and quick as mine. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In reality I think that they feel lost.  Like they have been stripped of a social tool of shame.  Their tone turns from one of religion (pray pray pray) to one of worldly incredulity (&quot;if  you prayed you did it  wrong because what you want to do is stupid&quot;). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I submit that this whole exercise can be had without reference to religion, because it doesn&#39;t seem to have a religious basis.  Tell people that they&#39;re being knuckle headed, or come up with something more diplomatic if you like.  But don&#39;t inshallah someone when what you really mean is, &quot;hopefully you become less pigheaded soon&quot;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Giving someone a figurative knock to the head when they do something silly is a time-honored Egyptian tradition, I&#39;m not saying it should stop.  But perhaps we can strip off the layer of religious BS no one seems to mean. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So to recap my thesis is: when you want to be mean, say what you mean, and whatever you do don&#39;t ask me to pray about it.</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/04/wink-wink.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-4634633044055181836</guid><pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-03-31T00:05:19.002-04:00</atom:updated><title>A little common sense among the madness</title><description>I &lt;a href=&quot;http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/03/another-fatality-of-faith.html&quot;&gt;wrote the other day &lt;/a&gt;about Madeline Neumann, the 11 year old who died of curable illness while her parents prayed for her to get better.  There has been &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080328/ap_on_re_us/daughter_s_death_prayer&quot;&gt;some more news&lt;/a&gt;.  It seems that the authorities have seen fit to remove the other three children from the home.   So that&#39;s the good news.  The bad news is, the wackjob parents don&#39;t seem to be in any hot water.  The police chief even says &quot;There is no physical evidence of abuse or neglect,&quot; yeah because letting your child die in front of you instead of taking her to a doctor is great parenting. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oye.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I can feel my blood pressure rising as I write this, so I&#39;ll just leave you with a thought.  What if they practiced homeopathy, instead of prayer?  Would they be still be free?  I doubt it, personally.  Why are we so frightened by the prospect of offending someone&#39;s religion  that our society will forgive this type of behavior? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note the disconnect: they take the kids away but claim there was no neglect.  Of course it was neglect.  Anyone can see that &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;plainly&lt;/span&gt;.  But as a society we continue to fear critiquing religion.  If the death of a child isn&#39;t enough to change that, maybe there is no hope at all.   The DA for that area still has to decide whether to file charges.  Maybe someone will speak for Madeline.  Maybe we can redeem ourselves as a nation that isn&#39;t filled with backward nonsense.  Certainly it would help our standing in the world.  Perhaps if people were more concerned with this world, rather then with another that is not there, we would be better off. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;{as a side note, The Coptic Atheist is now listed on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://outcampaign.org/blogroll&quot;&gt;Out Campaign&#39;s Atheist Blogroll,&lt;/a&gt; so head over there and check out some of those sites}&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Atheos</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/03/little-common-sense-among-madness.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-7638982289149844908</guid><pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 22:19:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-03-29T18:21:30.251-04:00</atom:updated><title>I&#39;ve been blogrolled</title><description>So, this blog is now a part of Mojoey&#39;s Atheist Blogroll.  So check out the list of other blogs on the right.  Enjoy!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Coptic Atheos</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/03/ive-been-blogrolled.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-1738169148345085039</guid><pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-03-26T18:13:44.475-04:00</atom:updated><title>Another Fatality of Faith</title><description>I&#39;ve blogged before about the fatal consequences of people who put their fate into the hands of fate, while eschewing medicine.  But this is a really gut wrenching story.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.madison.com/tct/news/stories/278693&quot;&gt;A young girl died recently&lt;/a&gt; when her family prayed for her instead of taking her for medical treatment.  From what I could glean, it seems like she had type I diabetes melitus (I do not claim the ability to diagnose from a distance, least of all from a news article, I&#39;m just making an observation).  It is not a pleasant disease but it is treatable.  People with DM 1 live long lives, when managed by simple medication.  This girl didn&#39;t get medicine, she was kept at home and prayed for.  It didn&#39;t work.  Imagine my surprise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What really gets me is how she died.  Ketoacidosis is a complication that takes a long time to develop in uncontrolled cases.  I have no doubt that this eleven year old child died a needless, excruciating, and drawn out death.  A complication that could have been reversed by medication and proper attention.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where were the parents?  Praying over her! What is the state of education in this country, how foolish can people be to watch their child die and do nothing?  Why not at least pray over her at a hospital, you lunatics!  Then you could have thanked god for saving her and ignored the doctors and nurses and techs who did the heavy lifting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Alas, reason and logic do not have fatalities.  Faith does.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the outcome of &quot;putting it in God&#39;s hands&quot;.  For all you Egyptians out there, this is the outcome of inshaallah.  True, most sane religious people &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;would&lt;/span&gt; have prayed over her in a hospital, ignored the docs (and students, et al)  and thanked god for the miracle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This child, living in the richest country in the history of the world, needed help that has been available for to people in every nation decades, her parents didn&#39;t see it that way, and in doing so, they denied her her life. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They sought a modern miracle.   And when their daughter died, they thought it was because they didn&#39;t have &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;enough&lt;/span&gt; faith!  It seems to me to be complete madness.   It seems to me to be negligence, perhaps murder of this innocent child. Of course, the local authorities don&#39;t see it that way.  Otherwise they wouldn&#39;t have left these two awful excuses for parents retain custody of their three other children.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I sincerely hope none of them get sick.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Update&lt;/span&gt;: So, about 2 minutes after I published this post, I found a &lt;a href=&quot;http://skepchick.org/blog/?p=1178&quot;&gt;relevant article&lt;/a&gt; on one of my favorite blogs, &lt;a href=&quot;http://skepchick.org/blog/?p=1178&quot;&gt;Skepchick&lt;/a&gt;.  I only mention it because Elyse actually knows the name of the young girl who died.  This fatality of faith was Madeline Neumann.]</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/03/another-fatality-of-faith.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>2</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-3765644211325655204</guid><pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-03-25T16:52:28.617-04:00</atom:updated><title>A valuable community</title><description>So I&#39;ve been increasing my forays into Facebook recently when I came across a very interesting group.  It&#39;s called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7491896782&quot;&gt;Coptic Freethinkers&lt;/a&gt;.  And here I thought I was the only one!  I put in my 2 cents on one of the discussion groups.  I chose my zone of participation wisely though, I think my take on strict theology might be somewhat unpopular among a group that seems, by and large, to still be faithful. Of course there are the standard critics who blast the group&#39;s existence entirely as sin and folly.  Why do people like that join these groups (or try to reconvert me, or threaten to pray for me...).  There do seem to be quite a few progressive members,  so  if you are so inclined, I&#39;d urge you to check them out (you have to be a facebook member) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7491896782&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-atheos</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/03/valuable-community.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-5336340187455617817</guid><pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:08:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-03-21T18:28:30.829-04:00</atom:updated><title>I want to help!</title><description>Hello, my name is Atheos and I am addicted to atheist blogs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Hi atheos!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So one of my favorite new blogs is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://friendlyatheist.com/&quot;&gt;Friendly Atheist&lt;/a&gt;, the author,  &lt;strong style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://friendlyatheist.com/about-the-contributors/&quot;&gt;Hemant Mehta&lt;/a&gt;, strikes a nice balance of snarky&lt;/strong&gt; and serious, and that&#39;s right up my alley.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well Hemant has started a &lt;a href=&quot;http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/03/21/my-new-mission-to-be-more-popular-than-ken-ham/&quot;&gt;campaign&lt;/a&gt;.  His goal is to be more popular than Ken Ham, one of the dullards behind the Creation &quot;museum&quot;  (here&#39;s a test, does your institution show &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/williac/1036693826/&quot;&gt;dinosaurs with saddles&lt;/a&gt; on them?  If so, you get quotes around museum).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, I  fully support Mr Mehta in this endeavor, we must rise up against irrationality and form personality cults around bloggers we like!  Okay, maybe not, but I will be his homeboy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/homeboy.JPG&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;&quot; src=&quot;http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/homeboy.JPG&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-want-to-help.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908864535075885670.post-3814552022258292667</guid><pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 06:09:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2008-03-21T18:30:29.547-04:00</atom:updated><title>(De)Conversion Story</title><description>Part One - The Good old days&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I was young, church was everything.  God was everything.  The mind that would later be dedicated to biochemistry and anatomy, readily absorbed theology and canon.  I learned every hymn, read every text in the church bookstore, and accepted it all.  I used my voice to proclaim the word every week.   I honestly felt contentment in my life.  I don&#39;t have a horror story about evil priests or wicked congregations.  I belonged to one of the well known Coptic communities in the US.  I have no doubt that if I mentioned it here, people from around the country would recognize it. For a while, things were ok.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part Two - Doubting Atheos&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I grew up, I found that I had a talent for arguing and logic.  I had many &quot;logical&quot; explanations for various doubts and contradictions, (&quot;They weren&#39;t 7 &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;literal&lt;/span&gt; days of creation!&quot;, or my favorite &quot;the apostles wouldn&#39;t let themselves be martyred for nothing!&quot;).  After a while, things piled up.  Certainly evolution was in sharp contrast to genesis?  Certainly abstinence only sex ed was a failure?  What about all those &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;other&lt;/span&gt; gods?   Woah.  See that was the one that got me.  What &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;about &lt;/span&gt;those other gods.  I could keep evolution/creation on a doublethink see-saw, I could acknowledge that condoms were the way to go and the church was just old fashioned.   But that other-god-thing stuck.  Thousands of gods have been worshiped by people throughout history.  What is intrinsically different about the Christian God.  Nothing.  Born of a virgin?  So was Horus!  Did my ancestors have it right?!  Doubtful.   Even if one conceded the existence of a god, what tremendous arrogance it would be to suppose that one had, by shear luck, been born into the faith of the right one!  That is, of course, if one is right to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I&#39;m getting ahead of myself.  These doubts nagged on me.  I prayed and read but found no peace.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkexist.com/quotation/reason_is_the_greatest_enemy_that_faith_has-it/178640.html&quot;&gt;Reason is the enemy of faith&lt;/a&gt;, and I had unleashed the former on the latter.  So I went to church a little less, I found the word a little more out of touch, and then something happened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part Three - Please listen closely as our options have changed&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is quite embarrassing to note that, by this stage in my story, I didn&#39;t consider atheism.  I drifted away from the church and expressions of faith which I found hollow.  But for some reason atheism didn&#39;t occur to me as an option.  Around this time, I read &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;1984&lt;/span&gt;.  For some reason I owned the book, but had never had to read it.  So I picked it up on a lark and found religion.  And not in the way people on death row &quot;find&quot; religion.  I FOUND it, in the doublethink of the Party.  Slavery is Freedom, fear as a control mechanism, the bashing of dissent.  Certainly this was a hyperbolic version of religion, most of us are not tortured in church basements (Scientologists?), but the oppressive dogma stood out to me. &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;1984 &lt;/span&gt;is social commentary, but I think that makes it better for this purpose.  Let me demonstrate: try explaining how patently obvious evolution is to a creationist.  When that fails, explain gravity, and its theory.  I doubt they&#39;ll balk at that, even though it is far more complex and has changed more recently (Einstein) than the theory of evolution has (Darwin, duh).  By removing religion from the conversation, the mind is free to consider fact.  You cannot be an apostate by discussing gravity.  So too, &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;1984 &lt;/span&gt;took dogma out of a religious context for me.  It allowed me to view dogmatism, and quickly religion, objectively.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then the doubts about those other gods (see above) weren&#39;t so scary. This objective view of religion was essential, it made atheism &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;possible&lt;/span&gt; for me. All I needed was a little more encouragement.  I found it when I read the &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;God Delusion&lt;/span&gt; by Richard Dawkins.  He said everything I thought, only smarter and in a British accent.   I don&#39;t think I can overstate the effect it had on me, intellectually.  There was very little in his book that I didn&#39;t know.  I knew about comparative religion, I knew about biology, I knew the lies people told about atheists to be just that.  Some of the stories and storytelling was new, but that wasn&#39;t it.  It&#39;s hard to express how relieving it is to have someone else think like you.  It&#39;s easy when you&#39;re in church every week.  Far harder when you first leave for a would of reason.  Harder still when you do it alone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Epilogue - A tired med student wraps things up so he can get back to the books.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So that&#39;s my story in a nutshell.  I&#39;m sure I left some things out, but those three phases were very real to me.  Writing about it was nearly as cathartic as living it.  But it&#39;s not all sunshine on this side.  Someone once said, Religion is the opiate of the masses.  If he wasn&#39;t a despot, he might well have been a biologist.  Religion is remarkably adaptable, evolutionarily.   People of faith are said to be happier.  I don&#39;t doubt it.  But being happy because you have faith doesn&#39;t mean your faith is right.  After all, I suspect the worshipers of Horus in the old country were happier than any atheists that were around.  The point is, times have changed.  We can explain the events in our world without gods in our equations.  We invented religion, and for many of us, it has outlived its usefulness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(ps.  I&#39;d like to thank some very kind email corespondents,  you challenged my mind enough to make me tear myself away from my books for a bit and write this post)</description><link>http://copticatheist.blogspot.com/2008/01/deconversion-story.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Atheos)</author><thr:total>1</thr:total></item></channel></rss>