The LOLSuit

"Activist Judges"

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Sun, 17 May 2009 00:56:00 +0000

I believe strongly in the right to die. Very strongly. But not when it applies to these facts:

1 - 13 year old child
2 - Hodgkin's lymphoma - 90% CURE (not survival) rate if treated. 5% survival rate if untreated.
3 - Said 13 year old child has a learning disability and does not possess the ability to READ.
4 - The "religion" he is wanting to follow (which does not allow treatment) was founding in the 1990's (yeah, like twenty years ago).

I do believe that if these parents continue to fight treatment against court orders, as they say they will, and this child dies, they should be charged with murder.
How would you reconcile being this kid's PD? I sincerely hope chambers and argument were markedly different.

Norway took Eurovision

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Sun, 17 May 2009 00:26:00 +0000

Take that Russia!

Stay out of Reaver County!

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Sun, 17 May 2009 00:24:00 +0000

It's not a spring loaded shotgun

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Wed, 13 May 2009 01:03:00 +0000

But its awfully fucking close. What the hell?

Gayle and Sheila Muhs gave trespassers a blunt warning. They posted a large sign outside their Texas home saying trespassers would be shot and survivors would be shot again.

They weren't joking.
The Muhs are currently being held on charges of aggravated assault for allegedly firing at least two shotgun blasts at a pair of packed cars that stopped outside their rural Texas house. Those charges are expected to be upgraded to murder, since a 7-year-old boy who was wounded in the assault has died from shotgun pellets to his head and face.
But police said the families in the two cars were driving on a public road when the Muhs opened fire from their house, killing Donald Coffey Jr. and hitting three others, including the boy's 5-year-old sister.
Outside the Muhs' house is a handpainted sign complete with misspelling and exclamation points that warns: "Trespassers Will Be Shot. Survivers Will Be Reshot!! Smile I Will."
Police got a 911 call just after 9 p.m. Thursday, DeFoor said, from Sheila Muhs who "reported there were people in jacked up four-wheel automobiles ... and that she shot them." She also reported that the vehicles were destroying the nearby levees.
But in reality, DeFoor said, the families in the two cars had done nothing illegal. And, he said, they never set foot on the Muhs' property.

The Republican Ideology

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Thu, 07 May 2009 00:53:00 +0000

Espoused, once again, by Joe the Plumber. . .

NEW YORK (AP) -- Samuel Wurzelbacher, the Ohio man hailed as "Joe the Plumber" by Republican John McCain's presidential campaign last year, said he believes gays are "queer" and said he won't allow them near his children.

Nevertheless, Wurzelbacher said the decision about whether to allow same-sex couples to marry should be left to states.

"People don't understand the dictionary - it's called queer," Wurzelbacher told Christianity Today in an interview published this week. "Queer means strange and unusual. It's not like a slur, like you would call a white person a honky or something like that. You know, God is pretty explicit in what we're supposed to do - what man and woman are for."
He added, "I've had some friends that are actually homosexual. And, I mean, they know where I stand, and they know that I wouldn't have them anywhere near my children. But at the same time, they're people, and they're going to do their thing."

Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign, a national gay rights organization based in Washington, dismissed Wurzelbacher's comments.

"It would matter if Joe the Plumber mattered," Solmonese said. "One thing among many things we learned in the 2008 campaign is that he doesn't."

Wurzelbacher, regarded as a folk hero to many conservatives after challenging then-Democratic nominee Barack Obama about his tax policies, said neither political party was sufficiently Christian.

"They use God as a punch line," Wurzelbacher said of Republicans. "They use God to invoke sympathy or invoke righteousness, but they don't stay the course."

Wurzelbacher said he considered McCain's running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, one of the GOP's emerging stars. But he said the party would have a difficult time recasting its image to appeal to younger voters.

"You got the RNC talking about repackaging principles and values to make them hip and cool to the younger generation," Wurzelbacher said. "You can't repackage them. They are what they are. You can't make what they are."

Since the election, Wurzelbacher has spoken at conservative rallies around the country and traveled to Israel as a rookie reporter to cover the Gaza conflict.

Wurzelbacher told the magazine he might consider running for office someday.

"Not right now," Wurzelbacher said. "God hasn't said, 'Joe, I want you to run.' I feel (it's) more important to just encourage people to get involved, one way or another. If I can inspire some leaders, that would be great."

Dinosaur's on the Ark, explained.

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Mon, 04 May 2009 00:52:00 +0000

Take this science!

3. How did those huge dinosaurs fit on the Ark?

Although there are about 668 names of dinosaurs, there are perhaps only 55 different ‘kinds’ of dinosaurs. Furthermore, not all dinosaurs were huge like the Brachiosaurus, and even those dinosaurs on the Ark were probably ‘teenagers’ or young adults. Indeed, dinosaurs were recently discovered to go through a growth spurt, so God could have brought dinosaurs of the right age to start this spurt as soon as they disembarked.

Creationist researcher John Woodmorappe has calculated that Noah had on board with him representatives from about 8,000 animal genera (including some now-extinct animals), or around 16,000 individual animals. When you realize that horses, zebras, and donkeys are probably descended from the horse-like ‘kind’, Noah did not have to carry two sets of each such animal. Also, dogs, wolves, and coyotes are probably from a single canine ‘kind’, so hundreds of different dogs were not needed.

You can get further enlightened, here.

The WORLD'S most influential person

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Sun, 03 May 2009 01:47:00 +0000

is moot. Hehe internetz.

Also here

Best Resignation Letter Ever!

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:51:00 +0000

Hehe

Why I am not an "Oklahoma Republican"

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:54:00 +0000

Well, other than the obvious. Here is their "platform" for 2009. Although it is absolutely fucking insane on its own, I think the "commendations" are pretty damn hilarious:

COMMENDATIONS
We commend:
1. President George W. Bush for his leadership in fighting terrorism and protecting the American people; for articulating his strong commitment to the sanctity of human life; for his uncompromising commitment to tax cuts; for his principled defense of marriage as the union of one man and one woman, for his Social Security reform initiative, and his strong judicial appointments.
2. U. S. Senator Jim Inhofe for his steadfast commitment to military readiness and his support for the cause of freedom around the world and his opposition to the “global warming” scare, and his fiscal conservatism.
3. U.S. Senator Tom Coburn for his dedication to his principles.
4. Congressman John Sullivan for his diligent work on homeland security and securing our borders.
5. Our Republican state legislators for using their increased numbers to enact conservative laws. We congratulate them for winning control of the State House and State Senate.
6. All Tulsa County Republicans who are serving as county and municipal officers and school board members.
7. Our Republican candidates and their families for their financial and personal sacrifice.
8. The Conservative voices in media for keeping Tulsa County citizens informed.
9. Sheriff Stanley Glanz and his staff in their excellent operation of the jail. We also commend his office for pursuing training under section 287(g) of the 1996 Illegal Immigration Responsibility Act, which will authorize them to detain suspects for violation of immigration law, and we urge all other local law enforcement agencies to follow their example.

Taxes

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:35:00 +0000

You can play with it here

2M4M

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:05:00 +0000

"F0r G0d 50 l0v3d 7h3 w0rld"

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:03:00 +0000

Otherwise known as "Christ on a Disk."
The stupid, it hurts me...

P.S.

The Christian Hackers' Association is a missionary organization
formed for the purpose of bringing the light of the gospel of Jesus Christ
into the dark reaches of the hacker underground
and exploring the realm where faith and technology intersect.

Oh noes!!! Hte Internetz!! (ps icanhazcheezburger?)

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:55:00 +0000

Hey foxnews, you are doing it wrong....again....

The most powerful people on the Internet don't work for Microsoft, Google or the government. Rather, they're a bunch of antisocial, foul-mouthed, clever nerds who congregate at a largely unknown Web site called 4chan.org.

Ever get your MySpace page hacked into? Chances are it was 4chan's fault.

Surfing YouTube and suddenly find yourself watching an old Rick Astley music video? You were "rickrolled" by 4chan.

Enjoy reading Sarah Palin's personal e-mail? She's got 4chan to thank for that.

Hear someone shout out the ending of the latest Harry Potter book while you're in line at Barnes and Noble? 4chan strikes again.
4chan.org is the self-proclaimed Internet home for people who lack a social conscience, a Web site that's become a surreptitious cultural powerhouse.

It's responsible for launching several successful Web-based trends, from the wildly popular "lolcat" phenomenon to the surprise comeback of '80s one-hit wonder Rick Astley.

But what the heck IS 4chan?

Welcome to a new world, filled with terminology and conventions that the average person — or even the average nerd — may not know about.

4chan is a no-frills discussion Web site that features dozens of message boards and "image boards" within six broad categories, stemming from Japanese animation to travel, and given semi-random names ranging from "/a/"' to "/trv/."

That sounds harmless enough, except that within 4chan lurks the "/b/" board, dedicated to "random" images and topics, and its 5.3 million users, known as the "/b/tards."

The /b/ board, or just /b/ to its loyal visitors, is by far the site's most popular. Users fill the board with vile material, from pornographic images to incredibly racist and misogynistic comments.

It thrives on competition and users write "moar" to challenge each other to post further loathsome material throughout the day and long into the night.

What makes 4chan unique among message boards is its reliance on anonymity, a vast difference from most sites, which make users sign up with at least a verifiable e-mail address.

On 4chan, one can post anonymously using a nickname or a "tripcode," a system that uses an algorithm to give users unique coded nicknames.

Anonymously, /b/tards create alliances to plan their next big exploits.

In 2008, they bombarded MTV with votes to clinch Rick Astley the fan-picked "Best Act Ever" award at the MTV Europe Music Awards — which helped Astley get a slot performing in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.

Recurring jokes on 4chan sometimes spread out into the wider Web to become Internet "memes," a pseudo-sociological term for jokey phenomena passed from person to person.

Remember the Hamster Dance and the lonely heart Mahir "I kiss you!" Cagri? Those were two early pre-4chan memes.

Aside from Astley, 4chan's most successful meme has been the "lolcats," photos of cats accompanied by goofy captions written in 4chan dialect, phonetically-spelled words using childlike grammar — for example, a hungry-looking feline with the words "I Can Haz Cheezburger?"

And the 2007 YouTube stardom of Tay Zonday and his song "Chocolate Rain" was due to 4chan users who found his amateurism charming and decided to artificially boost his viewing numbers.

But the antics of the /b/tards also have a dark side far from cute cats. They've been suspected of replacing people's MySpace profile photos with pornographic images. /b/tards have even gathered together to drive past bookstores with megaphones, shouting the ending of new Harry Potter books.

One of the most serious allegations against the /b/tards concerns the invasion of hip-hop Web site SOHH.com in June 2008, where much of the site's content was replaced with racist photos and slurs.

Fellow hip-hop site AllHipHop.com shut down its own forums as the invasion spilled over into them, a stunt that AllHipHop's managers deemed an "unprovoked racist attack" by "cyber terrorists."

Since users are anonymous, it's never proven that /b/tards are the culprits, but online communities often point fingers to 4chan for causing much of the chaos in (and sometimes out) of cyberspace.

/b/tards retaliate by saying that all original Web content stems from something they once posted on 4chan.

As long as users play by 4chan's carefully listed rules, created by the site's founder "moot," they don't get in trouble with the outside world and mainly stay unnoticed.

The rules are few and simple: Invasions of other sites are not tolerated, the SOHH incident notwithstanding, child pornography and illegal material are prohibited and no one under 18 is allowed.

Moot — he insists on the lowercase "m" — is reportedly Christopher Poole, a college dropout in his early 20s who lives in New York with his mother and is looking for more active employment.

Since 4chan is anonymous, it's unclear if Poole is truly his identity and whether it's true that he began 4chan in 2003 while in high school using his mother's credit cards or that he's still deeply in debt as the site continues to lose money.

4chan has been moot's main focus since he was 15 years old, which he began with one "anime/random" board.

Since those early days of 4chan, the boards have grown from something small and slightly elite to a site that moot says is now mainstream.

"4chan ceased to be a 'secret clubhouse' ages ago. We serve over 15 million users per quarter, and are larger than 99 percent of other sites on the Web," moot told FoxNews.com.

Moot says the growth of 4chan has kept things interesting. In just a few months, figures have increased to 450,000 posts a day.

Users tend to push the envelope as far as they can without breaking the site's rules — including a vague "rule" known on /b/ eloquently coined, "Don't mess with football."

That rule was made famous in 2005 when 23-year-old Jake Brahm posted bomb threats to major football stadiums across the country during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan on 4chan.

What resulted was a media storm — and what may have began as a practical joke turned into Homeland Security's arrest of Brahm. He was sentenced in June to six months of prison and $26,750 in restitution.

"If you want to post illegal things to 4chan, I would highly discourage it, unless you want to end up in federal prison," moot said at a Web conference.

Another controversy to hit 4chan was the "invasion" of the teen-centric online social site Habbo Hotel. At this online "hotel," users create avatars that walk into various virtual rooms and chat with other users.

In 2006, /b/tards swarmed the site, created avatars of men with Afros and Armani suits and blocked the hotel's swimming pool and shut it down, due to "AIDS in the water." After this incident, moot added "no invasions" to the rules.

The September 2008 hack of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin Yahoo e-mail was more muddled.

While some users applauded the /b/ newbie who claimed to have done it, others derided him as an idiot and amateur who would get the entire site in trouble — and quickly discovered his true identity long before the FBI figured it out.

Some see 4chan as a site filled with bored teenagers who like to push the limits on what they can do online. Others see users as part of an "Internet hate machine" filled with calls for domestic terrorists to bomb stadiums.

But it's hard to call someone a terrorist who posts photos of cats with captions in 4chan language every Saturday, or what /b/tards like to refer to as "Caturday."

The "lolcats" — Laugh Out Loud cats — became so popular that one user launched the images on his own blog, icanhazcheezburger.com, a site that has since been acquired for $2 million and spawned at least one book.

But why cats?

"At the end of the day, /b/tards are still human," says moot. "Cute cat pictures appeal to most people."

In an atmosphere where anything goes, the only thing that seems to truly rile a /b/tard is the abuse of a cat.

In February, a user documented abuse to his pet cat, Dusty, as a friend rolled tape. The video surfaced on YouTube and was viewed over 30,000 times.

In a rare 4chan moment, /b/tards created an alliance to do good and tracked down the cat abuser, Kenny Glenn, and alerted police.

Moot believes that 4chan has the ability to grow into something more powerful than a generator of memes.

During the past year, "Project Chanology," created by an amorphous 4chan-associated group calling itself "Anonymous," has become an organized effort against the legal and cultural power of the Church of Scientology.

Anonymous members, often wearing masks depicting the main character in the politically charged comic book and movie "V for Vendetta," protest across the country, claiming the religion endorses Internet censorship.

It all began in January of 2008 after the Church of Scientology tried and failed to purge the Web of a leaked Tom Cruise promotional Scientology video.

What the /b/tards may do next is anyone's guess. As moot says, if he had an idea for the next idea, he certainly wouldn't tell the media.

"4chan, both the site and its memes, has touched the lives of tens of millions of people from around the world, in one way or another, for better or worse,' he says. "I'd say that's culturally powerful."

Damn kids. Ruining Harry Potter, what will they think of next? Its anarchy!

Why I have a Twitter Account

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:30:00 +0000

Among others... Kevin Spacey!

Thoughts?

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:20:00 +0000

I don't believe the suicide bit.

"A US study suggests that people with strong religious beliefs appear to want doctors to do everything they can to keep them alive as death approaches. The study, following 345 patients with terminal cancer, found that 'those who regularly prayed were more than three times more likely to receive intensive life-prolonging care than those who relied least on religion.' At first blush, this appears paradoxical; one would think that a strong belief in an afterlife would lead to a more resigned acceptance of death than nonbelievers who view death as the end of existence, the annihilation of consciousness and the self. Perhaps the concept of a Judgment produces death-bed doubts? ('Am I really saved?') Or, given the Judeo-Christian abhorrence of suicide, and the belief that it is God who must ultimately decide when it is 'our time,' is it felt that refusing aggressive life support measures or resuscitation is tantamount to deliberately ending one's life prematurely?"

Discuss.

Let the Right One In - Why?

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:47:00 +0000

So I LOVE this movie. LOVE it. I saw the original screening version months ago. It is really a fantastic movie and the beauty of it (for me anyway) was how it was completely non-americanized. It literally is a film that could not have been made in America or for a general American audience. So I am really upset to find out that the DVD release of the movie in the states has the WRONG translations. They pretty much "dumbed" down the movie. The craziness of what they have done is just absurd and pointless. It doesn't even make sense why it was changed. I am linking an article that discusses it but it is for people who have already seen the movie (don't read it if you haven't seen it and plan to). Hopefully anyone interested in seeing the movie can see the original screening version and not this new released crap that was re-translated.

105 Practical Ways to Promote Science and Advance Skepticism

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:02:00 +0000

What do I do next? Is a really interesting concept and a great way to help the scientific community. Best part - its a free PDF. Thank-you science!

Bill-O does porn

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:51:00 +0000

Well....He tries to anyway. I guess this is why he can't get an actual woman to have sex with him. This and the falafal thing... Watch the video it's worth it.

Americans React

Bible Condoms?

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:17:00 +0000

PUT A BIBLE OVER YOUR PENIS, SAYS POPE

POPE Benedict last night claimed that placing a bible over an erect penis before intercourse is the only guaranteed way to prevent the spread of Aids.

May cause chafing
Speaking before his tour of Africa, the Pontiff said Aids could only be tackled by the 'traditional teaching of the church' and not a latex rubber sheath that contains infected semen and prevents it from transferring the virus to another human being.

Experts said that either the Pope is suggesting the bible is used like a condom, or he doesn't know what a condom is.

Dr Emma Bradford, of Reading University, said: "I guess you would have to rip out a few pages of Leviticus and then somehow fashion them into a condom-like device using lots and lots of masking tape.

"Or you could shred the pages, soak them in water and construct something that looks a bit like a paper maché cigar tube."

Dr Bradford added: "It has to be one of those two because suggesting that the African Aids epidemic can be contained simply by reading the bible would be criminally insane."

Since his inauguration in 2005 the Pope has continued the Church's strong opposition to condoms by calling for abstinence, supervised heavy petting and whacking it repeatedly with a wooden spoon until it goes all soft again.

Meanwhile the Vatican has issued this year's list of approved non-penetrative carnal techniques including pearl necklaces, light genital branding and something called 'Dutch steamboating'.

Dog Porn is FAIL!

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:43:00 +0000

Someone needs to learn how the recycle bin works.....

MARCH 18--Meet Michelle Owen. Concerned that an ex-boyfriend had used her laptop to search for child pornography, the Indiana woman asked police to search the computer for illegal images, but had her plan backfire when cops discovered two videos of her engaged in illicit acts with a dog. Owen, 24, was charged last week with two felony bestiality counts in connection with the video files, which a detective found in the laptop's "recycle bin."

Teh Crzy

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:23:00 +0000

BOULDER, Colo. -- A 24-year-old ski lift operator who fatally shot the general manager of the Eldora ski area was determined to kill co-workers who weren't Christian, according to court records obtained Thursday. The documents, filed Wednesday in Boulder District Court, said witnesses told authorities that Derik Bonestroo walked into a building at work, fired a gun into the ceiling and said: "If you're not Christian, you're going to die." General manager Brian Mahon was shot and killed at the ski area west of Nederland, Colo., in Boulder County.

Witnesses said when Bonestroo asked Mahon's religion, Mahon said "Catholic" and Bonestroo shot him twice: in the chest and head. Mahon is believed to have died instantly. Other employees ran out the back door of the ski employee's meeting area and fled into the woods, describing an additional four to five shots being fired.

Postsecret

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:10:00 +0000

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A Serious Weedz Debate

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:01:00 +0000

"Behind every good man there is a woman, and that woman was Martha Washington, man, and everyday George would come home, she would have a big fat bowl waiting for him, man, when he come in the door, man, she was a hip, hip, hip lady, man."

Last week, San Francisco Assemblyman Tom Ammiano bravely introduced reasoned, serious legislation about confronting, revising, and ultimately turning California’s oppressive marijuana laws to our benefit. In these trying economic times, it just makes sense. That’s why I’m throwing my full support behind Assemblyman Ammiano, and in fact, to honor his brave act, I’m going to take ten massive bong rips before continuing to write this.
There. The deed is done.

And before all you conservative naysayers start accusing me of “devilry,” allow me to prove without a doubt that the legalization of marijuana sales will actually decrease crime and overall drug use. This assumption is based on three basic arguments.

1. Legalizing marijuana will put drug cartels out of business

Every year, hundreds of people are maimed and killed and millions of dollars are lost to brutal and organized illegal drug traffickers. By legalizing and intelligently regulating marijuana consumption we can make it so that this doesn’t happen because all those people who did that now have no jobs. Also there will be less people in our jails. My word is it hot here. It’s like the room temperature just jumped 20 degrees. Let’s see, where was I … Ah yes.

2. Legalizing marijuana will put drug cartels out of business

No more laced weed! Poople who sell drugs often put lace in the drugs and that is bad. With legal weed, the government (Uncle Sam) will only put in the best ingredients by hand, and therefore no one will be addicted, except to America, and that is okay. I’m going to take my shirt off now.

4. Did you know Jesus smoked weed? It’s in the Bible.

20. Smoke weed every day, nigga!

Whoopty whoop nigga what?
Dre n’ snoop chronic’ed out
In the ‘llac with doc in the back
Sippin’ ‘gnac, clip in the strap

1 Legolizing marijuana will put dog hotels outta bidniss.

Bidniss. Bidniss. BID-niss. bidniss.

Oh my God did it type what I said? This is really weird. Jesus, it’s typing all of this!

Oh, my God, my hands are doing it! This is so weird. It’s like they’re turning my thoughts into written words. They are the vehicle. They are the viaduct. They are the truth and the way. Aaaaaaaaaaaah (angels come down).

This is my hands. Hello. I am hands.
“MY HANDS” are huge.
In the old days, they used “f” for “s.” Okay, that’s
What? POkay, I have to go lie down./cetner>
If anyone has a quesadilla, please leave it in the commentf fection.

O RLY?

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:29:00 +0000

Arkansas! They really make this too easy...

noreply@blogger.com (Momma) — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:26:00 +0000

Behold:

JONESBORO, Ark. (AP) -- When a fisherman reels in a high-caliber catch, should he take up hunting? Two Arkansas fishermen will have to answer that question after one of them hooked a shotgun while angling on a lake in northeast Arkansas.

Devin Sullivan and his stepfather were fishing on Craighead Forest Lake when Sullivan started to reel in what he thought was a turtle, only to find a Remington 870 shotgun snagged on the end of the line.

The two men took the shotgun to a Jonesboro police station, where the gun has been taken as evidence, Detective Sgt. Todd Nelson told Jonesboro television station KAIT. Its serial number will be checked to see if it has been reported stolen or involved in any crimes.

Nelson offered a lighthearted observation, saying it may have been thrown into the lake by "somebody that's mad at a spouse about hunting too much."

First, i'm glad the police in Arkansas take this so seriously. I mean the gun "probably" wasn't used to kill anyone, right? There is always room for police humor in murder cases....
Second, so if it was used for hunting the fishermen are going to take up hunting. If it was used for a murder are they going to take up killing? Logic. Use it.