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They recounted their concern at the time that the senator’s “appearance of a close bond” with lobbyist Vicki Iseman was potentially politically destructive. They outlined the steps they took to distance the candidate from the lobbyist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to senator McCain, this one story constitutes a “hit and run smear campaign” by the New York Times. If only he'd been given an opportunity to address this outrageous claim, instead of being shamelessly blind-sided.  Oh wait, he was:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The senator declined repeated interview requests, beginning in December. He also would not comment about the assertions that he had been confronted about Ms. Iseman…”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, it’s still simply appalling, Bill Bennett bleated on CNN, that the Times didn’t present any “counter evidence” to the claim (not contained in the article) that McCain always favored interests fronted by Iseman. Except they did:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“[Mark Salter] and Mr. Davis also said Mr. McCain had frequently denied requests from Ms. Iseman and the companies she represented. In 2006, Mr. McCain sought to break up cable subscription packages, which some of her clients opposed. And his proposals for satellite distribution of local television programs fell short of her clients’ hopes.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even if the story wasn't deplorable drive-by journalism, everyone in broadcast media zeroed in on the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;real &lt;/span&gt;issue. It's not whether (more) poor judgment by a man who would be president is relevant, it’s about the press and their responsibility to never use unnamed sources, ever, no matter how well their representations can be cross-checked and verified. It is the duty of the press to expose any and all of their sources, and not simply the verifiable facts those sources present, to public scrutiny. After all, its not like these “unnamed individuals” are running for public office and are thereby entitled to a private life!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the use of unnamed sources is only troubling when it occurs in print. On  CNN  et.al.,  the phrases “a source close to the investigation,” “someone familiar with the campaign,” “an official in the pentagon” are in daily use, year in and year out. No blush of shame is ever evident on the face of the reporter who utters one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps because CNN has proclaimed itself "the most trusted name in news," no more than the frequent repetition of this catch-phrase is needed to assure us that their unnamed sources are solid and reliable.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/747714192334127600-6198039426876663673?l=www.theothereveningnews.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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Gen. Thomas Hartmann, Legal Advisor to the Convening Authority in the Department of  Defense Office of Military Commissions (to give his full title once), &lt;a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=4142"&gt;briefed the press&lt;/a&gt; on the process to be used to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed  and 5 others by military commission.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gen. Hartmann took great pains to emphasize how the military commission system closely mirrors civilian and military courts, and that it was thus set up precisely "to ensure that every defendant receives a fair trial, consistent with American standards of justice.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He enumerated what seemed to be the familiar rights of defendants in criminal proceedings and said that all are afforded to those tried by military commission:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“In the military commission process, every defendant has the following rights. The right to remain silent and to have no adverse inference drawn from it. The right to be represented by detailed military counsel, as well as civilian counsel of his own selection, at no expense to the government. The right to examine all evidence used against him by the prosecution. The right to obtain evidence and to call witnesses on his own behalf, including expert witnesses. The right to cross-examine every witness called by the prosecution. The right to be present during the presentation of evidence. The right to have military commission panel of at least five military members determine his guilt by a two-thirds majority or, in the case of a capital offense, a unanimous decisions of a military commission composed of at least 12 members. The right to an appeal to the Court of Military Commission Review, then through the District of Columbia Circuit Court of Appeals to the United States Supreme Court.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“ We are going to give them rights. We are going to give them rights that are virtually identical to the rights we provide to our military members, our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines who fight in the battlefield and I think we'll all agree are national treasures.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If military commissions so closely mirror civilian and military judicial proceedings, why not use these proceedings, as was done with the original Twin Towers bombers? Why invent a new system if it essentially duplicates existing ones? When asked this the General was a bit evasive:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Fundamentally it's because the president of the United States and the Congress of the United States created the &lt;a href="http://news.lp.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/terrorism/mca2006.pdf"&gt;Military Commission Act&lt;/a&gt; [hereafter ‘MCA’] and determined that that was the appropriate place to proceed with these people.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In truth, military commissions aren’t so much the mirror of civilian and military courts as their shadow. While utilizing familiar language borrowed from civilian and military justice, the MCA very deliberately walls-off  military commissions from civilian and military court proceedings. From initial incarceration to final appeal the military commission process runs in isolation from the rest of American jurisprudence. The detainee in custody is proscribed from seeking a ruling in any American court on the legality of his detention. He is barred from trial in any venue  other than a military commission. He is barred from appealing a conviction based on any claim other than that the rules laid down in the MCA for military commissions were not followed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unlike defendants’ rights in regular military and civilian courts, the rights of defendants tried by military commission,  while meant to echo and evoke familiar constitutional rights, do not find their source in the constitution. Detainees owe such rights as they have to something far more capricious:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Pretrial, trial, and post-trial procedures, including elements and modes of proof, for cases triable by military commission under this chapter may be prescribed by the Secretary of Defense, in consultation with the Attorney General. Such procedures shall, so far as the Secretary considers practicable or consistent with military or intelligence activities, apply the principles of law and the rules of evidence in trial by general courts-martial.” (949a (a))&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;America may be (or have been), as the General reminded us, “a nation of laws and not men” but the  world described by the MCA is very much a world of one man. The Secretary of Defense, not the law, not the constitution, has the final say in all matters arising from the conduct of military commissions. That is to say, the nature and extent of every “right” accorded  a defendant is the sole discretion of the Secretary. Whether it is proper to describe what may be withdrawn or modified by the Secretary of Defense "as the Secretary considers practicable" a “right” at all is a legitimate question.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But let’s consider the putative rights of detainees in military commissions as listed by General Hartmann:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(1) “The right to remain silent and to have no adverse inference drawn from it.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In civilian justice, the right to remain silent is a right against self-incrimination. This right, the MCA makes clear, defendants in military commission hearings do &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not &lt;/span&gt;have. 948b(B) of the MCA says those tried by military commission do not have the rights enumerated in the &lt;a href="http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm"&gt;UCMJ&lt;/a&gt;, 831, Art. 31: “Compulsory Self-Incrimination Prohibited.” Noteworthy in particular is the inapplicability of article (d): “No statement obtained from any person in violation of this article, or through the use of coercion, unlawful influence, or unlawful inducement may be received in evidence against him in a trial by court-martial.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While taking pains to ensure that coerced statements will not be excluded, the MCA prohibits the use of statements obtained by "torture." We know by now that the idiosyncratic definition of “torture” employed means that practices historically considered torture by the US (e.g., waterboarding), and still considered torture by the rest of the world, fail to qualify.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(2) “The right to examine all evidence used against him by the prosecution.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;General Hartmann was most insistent about this right:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Every piece of evidence, every stitch of evidence, every whiff of evidence that goes to the finder of fact, to the jury, to the military tribunal will be reviewed by the accused, subject to confrontation, subject to cross- examination, subject to challenge…”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is, plain and simple, complete fiction. The MCA makes it perfectly clear that in NO instance are defendants allowed to examine “every stitch…every whiff ” of the classified evidence against them. Under the provisions of section 949j (b) of the MCA the judge may delete classified information from documents given to the defense; or substitute either a non-classified summary of the classified information or a non-classified list of the “relevant facts that the classified information would tend to prove.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Imagine being a defendant presented with the later. “Classified evidence tends to prove the following facts: (a) That you materially aided terrorists by supplying them with money; (b) That this money was used to purchase explosives; (c) That these same explosives were used in an attack that killed a civilian.” (Which makes this a capital crime). The names, dates and other specifics are withheld because the classified source of the information and vital operational methods might otherwise be identifiable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now it’s your turn to “confront,” and “challenge” this evidence against you. Since vital specifics are withheld, specifics which you might well be in a position to challenge, all that remains possible is a general, and so meaningless, denial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The classified information from which these damning conclusions are drawn may be false. You may, in fact, be in possession of evidence which shows that it is false. But because you will  never know the classified information, only some form of non-classified substitute, you can never put the two together in a meaningful “confrontation” of the evidence against you. In this scenario you may be executed based on evidence &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;you could have proven was false&lt;/span&gt;, had you truly been able to "confront" it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The General said he was told classified evidence will play little or no  part in these first trials. This may well be so. Why highlight this travesty of justice in the trials that will receive the most public attention?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(3) “The right to obtain evidence and to call witnesses on his own behalf, including expert witnesses.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The same restrictions which limit access to classified evidence limit access to its sources. So none of these may be on the defense witness list, no matter how vital they may be to a meaningful defense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The MCA says the defendant will be given “reasonable opportunity to obtain witnesses.” Who determines what is reasonable?  The same person who finally determines everything else: the Secretary of Defense. Will the opportunity be ‘reasonable’ by civilian standards? Who knows?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The witnesses the defendant calls can only be compelled to appear (as by subpoena) if in “a place where the United States shall have jurisdiction.”  Those  exculpatory witnesses elsewhere may decide for themselves whether or not they will put themselves in the hands of Americans and connect themselves with a “high profile terrorist” and his trial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(4) "The right to cross-examine every witness called by the prosecution."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This sounds good, as it is meant to, but in a military commission proceeding, not all the witnesses against a defendant will be called. This is because  hearsay evidence “not otherwise admissible under the rules of evidence applicable in trial by general courts-martial” is allowed in military commission proceedings [949a (E)]. It will only be excluded if the defendant can show that it is false. The ability to cross examine only the witnesses actually called, not those whose hearsay evidence is introduced, makes this right hollow:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Smith: “A classified source told me someone told him that the defendant often spoke of his hatred for freedom and his desire to commit the act with which he is charged.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cross examination (???)  “Er, my client says he never did those things….?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Smith: “My source says he did.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The admissibility of hearsay also bears on right (2) “The right to examine all evidence used against him by the prosecution.” The defendant may be able to know what Smith will testify to, but how can that be described as a meaningful  ‘examination' of the hearsay evidence Smith presents?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(5) “The right to an appeal to the Court of Military Commission Review, then through the District of Columbia Circuit Court of Appeals to the United States Supreme Court”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;General Hartmann:  “In this process, they all go through the Court of Military Commission Review first, and then to the D.C. Court of Appeals.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q:  “So there is an eventual possible appeal to the civilian courts.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;General Hartmann: “Yes, absolutely, absolutely.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Absolutely not. The Court of Military Commission Review may review &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;only &lt;/span&gt;whether or not the procedures set out in the MCA were followed:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;‘‘In a case reviewed by the Court of Military Commission Review under this section, the Court may act only with respect to matters of law.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subsequent civilian court review is limited to one and only one court: the US  Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. No other civilian court has  jurisdiction.  The scope of such review is, again, confined to whether or not  MCA procedures were followed:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;‘‘The jurisdiction of the Court of Appeals on an appeal under subsection (a) shall be limited to the consideration of— (1) whether the final decision was consistent with the standards and procedures specified in this chapter; and (2) to the extent applicable, the Constitution and the laws of the United States.” (950g(c))&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;“To the extent applicable” is an important qualifier. The constitution has  been very deliberately and systematically excluded from the military commission  process. If it applies at all at the end of the process, to the verdict in a  trial by military commission, is an open question. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This bears on the meaningfulness of final declaration in (5) of the possibility of appeal to the Supreme Court.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The MCA could be said to have been designed by the Supreme Court. The roadmap to constitutionality supplied by Hamdan and related cases virtually assures that the MCA will not be judged “repugnant to the Constitution, treaties, or laws of the United States.” If it is not, an appeal to the Supreme Court of a verdict in a trial by military commission can only result in the same limited review to determine whether lower courts acted in accordance with MCA provisions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;General Hartmann: “It's our obligation to move the process forward, to give these people their rights. We are going to give them rights. We are going to give them rights that are virtually identical to the rights we provide to our military members, our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines who fight in the battlefield ….”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It would be a magnificent thing, if it were true. That we would afford to our enemies rights generally reserved for citizens would be the clearest possible evidence that we are, first and foremost, a nation of laws. But it's not true. We have opted instead for shadow justice in shadow trials, which says just as loudly and just as plainly that we are, after all, merely a nation of men.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/747714192334127600-5321253955421984973?l=www.theothereveningnews.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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Stone (“&lt;a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-oped0131kindjan31,0,948431.story"&gt;Bill Clinton's folly a party disgrace&lt;/a&gt;”), political discourse in the good old days was much harsher, and judged by that standard Bill Clinton’s recent remarks* about Barack Obama were “tepid.” In modern times, leading Democratic candidates have "for the most part...stayed above the slime." So shame on Bill Clinton for not carrying on this (quasi)tradition of the modern democratic party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Stone apparently imagines the cringing servility currently exhibited by Democrats to be in a (largely imaginary) glorious democratic tradition of "mutual respect and robust but civil disagreement and debate."  Having, at least in his mind, secured and maintained the moral high ground, it doesn't surprise him that Democrats "are particularly sensitive these days to any conduct that might undermine party unity and lessen the party's prospects for success in November." Really?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would have said that “conduct that might lessen the prospects for success in November” was  thoroughly descriptive of democratic leadership's behavior. What else should you  call the determined efforts to be seen as the impotent  enablers of a catastrophic leader?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Stone's article is an object lesson in the power of self-deception. Mr. Stone deceives himself that craven boot-licking makes Pelosi and Reid statesmen; and those two persons apparently sustain a similar fantasy, in spite of polling even lower in popularity than the most unpopular president in modern times.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any elements of half-truth and omission in Clinton’s remarks (whatever they might be)  are as unhelpful as they are anywhere else in political discourse. But a “personal attack and distortion,” “divisive and destructive behavior,” ruinous to democratic chances in November? Please.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can’t make myself cringe over Bill Clinton’s supposed “conduct unbecoming” on the campaign trail. If it’s true that the Clinton’s, in the words of Mark Karlin of &lt;a href="http://www.buzzflash.com/"&gt;BuzzFlash&lt;/a&gt;, “have gone after Barack Obama with a ferocity that we have seen from neither of them in the last several years toward the Bush and Cheney Administration,” they rightly deserve our condemnation, but for following in the tradition of the modern democratic doormat, not for poisoning the otherwise oh-so-pure waters of democratic political discourse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*Different commentators seem to have different remarks in mind when expressing their chagrin, moral outrage, etc.. These seem to be the main contenders:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(a) ‘Obama’s whole campaign is a fairy tale.’ But he didn't say that:&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200801260002?f=s_search"&gt;Time's Gibbs repeated falsehood that Bill Clinton referred to Obama's candidacy as a 'fairy tale'&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(b) Clinton’s comparison of Obama’s North Carolina Campaign to that of Jesse Jackson’s in ‘84 and ‘88. The remarks about which &lt;a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200801290008?f=s_search"&gt;Jesse Jackson &lt;/a&gt;said "Bill has done so much for race relations and inclusion, I would tend not to read a negative scenario into his comments." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(c) Clinton’s “&lt;a href="http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/15clinton.htm"&gt;hit job&lt;/a&gt;” remarks in reaction to Obama’s campaign document calling Hillary “the Senator from Punjab” ?  Is the cavil at the use of the phrase "hit job"? because the document’s claims are so clearly meant to be understood in that fine old tradition of 'mutual respect,' blah, blah…?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/747714192334127600-9064566873439576654?l=www.theothereveningnews.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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To formulate policy in these areas without attention to the consensus of expert opinion is to deliberately limit one’s understanding in a way that must inevitably distort both one’s grasp of the essential problems, and their solutions. Deliberately cultivated ignorance is disturbing, but even more disturbing is the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;disdain&lt;/span&gt; this displays for the proposition that, as rational beings, we ought to shape our views about the physical world in conformation with the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;discernible&lt;/span&gt; facts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The current occupant, and several leading candidates for President of the United States, have expressed doubts about, or outright rejection of, the fact of human evolution. In the case of evolution, the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;discernible&lt;/span&gt; facts support the reality of human evolution to such an extent that to chose an inconsistent view one must abandon the pretense of regard for science and its core tenet that beliefs about the physical world must be shaped by facts, not the facts by beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Carefully cultivated ignorance is on full display in &lt;a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3140255"&gt;Mike &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Huckabee&lt;/span&gt;’s&lt;/a&gt; views on evolution:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"If you want to believe that you and your family came from apes, I'll accept that....I believe there was a creative process."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/018118.html"&gt;Ron Paul&lt;/a&gt; simply rejects evolution, and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;doesn&lt;/span&gt;’t see what the big deal is:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;". . . I think it's a theory, a theory of evolution, and I don't accept it, you know, as a theory, but I think it probably doesn't bother me. It's not the most important issue for me to make the difference in my life to understand the exact origin. I think the Creator that I know created us, every one of us, and created the universe, and the precise time and manner, I just don't think we're at the point where anybody has absolute proof on either side.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/11/romney-elaborates-on-evolution/"&gt;Mitt Romney&lt;/a&gt; has expressed a qualified acceptance of “theistic” evolution:  he accepts that human evolution occurred, but with God’s as it’s guide.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I believe that God designed the Universe and created the Universe. I believe he used the process of evolution to create the human body." (Super-natural selection?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.beliefnet.com/story/180/story_18040.html"&gt;McCain&lt;/a&gt; is murkier, he may or may not embrace a variety of ‘theistic’ evolution:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“When I stand on the rim of the Grand Canyon. I know that it was the hand of God...only God could have created that magnificence. But at the same time, I think that Darwin's theories are valid, and I think that natural selection and survival of the fittest are clearly scientifically based. But I also believe that in time before time, that there was a divine hand in creation.&lt;br /&gt;. . .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think that evolution should be taught. I think it's absolutely the most valid and scientifically based and proven conclusion that we can draw. But I respect the fact that some people believe in intelligent design and they should have their views vented also. But in my own personal opinion, I don't think they're contradictory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: So do you believe in both?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, if you're saying that intelligent design is the earth created in seven days, then no. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;But I do believe that time before time there was a divine hand that brought this magnificent world and human beings into it.&lt;/span&gt;” (Emphasis mine. The theory of evolution is ‘valid,’ but 'a divine hand' brought human beings into the world, so humans did/did not evolve?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unlike other issues that divide the candidates, and ordinary Americans, that evolution occurred, and still occurs, is not something about which reasonable people may disagree. It’s not like the social security ‘crisis’ or the threat posed by Iran. On the question of whether or not humans evolved there is one answer overwhelmingly supported by observation and  evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let’s be clear, the answer to the question “Did human beings evolve?” is unequivocally “yes.” Not so the answers to questions about how they did so. Reasonable people can and do disagree about the mechanics of evolution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When confronted with overwhelming evidence that evolution occurs, these candidates blithely turn their back on the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;testimony&lt;/span&gt; of observation and evidence and instead embrace a belief about physical matters of fact inconsistent with both.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3140255"&gt;I'm not sure what in the world that has to do with being president of the United States.&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;Says Mike &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Huckabee&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What it has to do with being president, of course,  is that it  provides insight into the intellectual honesty of candidates, their grasp of critical reasoning, their basic understanding of science, and, specifically, how they may reason when required to make decisions informed by a consensus of scientific opinion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If these men can overlook the overwhelming prevailing scientific consensus about evolution, what does this say about their grasp of and respect for scientific reasoning?  If biology, anthropology, paleontology astrophysics, geology, genetics all say “evolution happened,” and you turn a deaf ear, it's not simply a matter of personal taste or individual conviction.  To accept as true beliefs about the physical world inconsistent with overwhelming factual evidence is irrationality, not healthy self-expression.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Presidents, and the rest of us non-experts, have to make determinations about scientific matters based on the consensus of experts. We trust that consensus because of our understanding of how science self-regulates. We know that scientists routinely submit their claims to the scrutiny of fellow scientists and must adapt or abandon views this process reveals to be unsupported by the evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;Huckabee&lt;/span&gt; and Paul in particular have shown us is a basic disregard for this process and its result: scientific consensus. When, as non-experts, they are required to make a determination  informed by the consensus of scientific opinion they are perfectly willing to simply ignore it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This suggests a capacity for self-deception, or mendacity or willful  ignorance (“if you want to believe your family came from apes…”) or all three, that is disturbing in any individual, not only a president.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We know what it's like to have a President with these qualities. We may never recover from having one, we surely cannot survive two.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/faithandreason/print/dawkins_print.html"&gt;Richard &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;Dawkins&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; in a conversation with Bill &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;Moyers&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;MOYERS&lt;/span&gt;: What do you think happens to a society that tolerates the belief that the universe was created in six days?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;DAWKINS&lt;/span&gt;: Well, I'm all for tolerance, but I'm worried about a society where a sufficiently large number of the electorate can actually swing the vote, not of course that the age of the earth actually affects current politics directly. But it shows such a divorce from reality. Such an inability to apprehend the real world in which people live.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;… I really worry about the judgments that people will make in other fields, … When you think about how young the world is supposed to be, according to this view, it's 6,000... it's less than 10,000 years old. This means the entire universe began sometime after the middle stone age. I mean, what kind of a grasp on reality does that suggest?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Willingness to turn one’s back on scientific evidence and the consensus of scientific experts is a shibboleth, a test or criterion for determining membership in a group. In this case, the group is The Rational. By this test our current president and a disturbingly large chunk of the field of presidential candidates have shown a willingness not just to tolerate,  but to actively embrace, irrationality.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/747714192334127600-6098203446752564194?l=www.theothereveningnews.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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Past that point is ever more authoritarian  government, cloaked in the increasingly substance-less forms of  'democracy.'  The natural culmination of this process is a nation of flag-worshippers, focused on the now-empty symbols of democracy, deprived of the rights and freedoms that give them meaning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you think that merely electing a democrat will reverse this course, think again:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"If elected president in 2008, Democrat &lt;a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071023/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_executive_power;_ylt=Av25elN1DeNsZavNVTmGzHas0NUE"&gt;Hillary Rodham Clinton &lt;/a&gt;would  consider giving up some of the executive powers President Bush and Vice  President Dick Cheney have assumed since taking office."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apparently, she &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;has &lt;/span&gt;considered it, and, in the case of signing statements at least, has decided against it:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Democrat &lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/12/22/candidates_on_executive_power_a_full_spectrum/"&gt;Hillary Clinton&lt;/a&gt; says 'in very rare instances,' she might attach a  so-called signing statement to a bill reserving a right to bypass ‘provisions that contradict the Constitution.'" &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama, Clinton and Edwards all embrace the idea that the executive may  unilaterally determine constitutionality, and use signing statements to rewrite  law already passed by the legislature. They insist, naturally, that their use of  signing statements will be judicious, well-founded, etc., in short, that such  power will never tempt &lt;i&gt;them &lt;/i&gt;to abuse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And while they now condemn Bush’s use of other powers he has assumed, who would care to wager that, once in office, they will not ‘discover’ that even these powers, when used &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;properly&lt;/span&gt;, can be potent tools of freedom and democracy, and that it would be rash, even &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;irresponsible&lt;/span&gt;, to abandon them? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A president possessed of tyrannical powers who, for whatever reason, doesn’t use them, or uses them with restraint, is as potent a threat to the Republic as Bush. The preservation and transmission of these powers imbues them with the authority of precedent. When they finally and inevitably come into the hands of one who will use them without restraint, how will they be stopped?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is one way and one way only to wake up from the nightmare:  Impeachment. It doesn't matter, as John Conyers insists, that "the votes  aren't there." Impeachment isn't pointless unless successful. To seriously  undertake the process is to say "we draw the line here" in a way that  establishes a precedent future executives can't ignore.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/transcript2.html"&gt;John Nichols&lt;/a&gt; has summed up the situation better than I can:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"On January 20th, 2009, if George Bush and Dick Cheney are not appropriately  held to account this administration will hand off a toolbox with more powers than any president has ever had, more powers than the founders could have  imagined. And that box may be handed to Hillary Clinton or it may be handed  to Mitt Romney or Barack Obama or someone else. But whoever gets it, one of  the things we know about power is that people don't give away the tools.  They don't give them up. The only way we take tools out of that box is if we sanction George Bush and Dick Cheney now and say the next president cannot  govern as these men have."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Limitless executive detention, rendition, torture, warrantless eavesdropping on Americans,  destruction of evidence, withholding of evidence and obstruction of justice with sweeping claims of executive privilege, ignoring the law at will. These are some of the behaviors and powers we are set to legitimize and make permanently within the scope of  acceptable executive authority, by handing them intact to the next executive. John Nichols again:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;". . . we are defining what the presidency will be in the future today because  we do know the high crimes and misdemeanors of George Bush and Dick Cheney. They have been well illustrated even by a-- rather lax media. They have been  discussed in Congress.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we know these things and we do not hold them to account, then we are saying, as a people and as a Congress, we are saying that we can find out that you have violated the rule of law. We can find out that you have disregarded the Constitution. . . . we can find out that you've done harm to the republic. But there will still be no penalty for that. If that's the standard that we've set, it will hold. It will not be erased in the future."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Impeachment is not about punishment now, its about course correction.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/747714192334127600-6736658560527030163?l=www.theothereveningnews.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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Thomas Jefferson&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After seven years of abusive executive of power, what we need most from a new administration is a promise that such abuse will end. It &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;doesn&lt;/span&gt;’t look like we’re going to get it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/12/22/candidates_on_executive_power_a_full_spectrum/"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Candidates on Executive Power: A Full Spectrum &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“… while all the Democrats condemned Bush's use of signing statements, Clinton, Edwards, and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Obama&lt;/span&gt; each said that they would use them too - just less aggressively. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Obama&lt;/span&gt; said the problem with Bush's signing statements is not the device itself, but rather that Bush has invoked legal theories that most constitutional scholars consider ‘dubious’ when reserving his alleged right to bypass certain laws.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;‘No one doubts that it is appropriate to use signing statements to protect a president's constitutional prerogatives; unfortunately, the Bush administration has gone much further than that,’ &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Obama&lt;/span&gt; said.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No one doubts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Democrat Hillary Clinton says ‘in very rare instances,’ she might attach a so-called signing statement to a bill reserving a right to bypass ‘provisions that contradict the Constitution.’"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No one should be President of the United States who has the view of presidential power and the Constitution expressed by these democratic candidates. Period. The president is charged with seeing that the laws are faithfully executed, not with unilaterally determining whether or not they “contradict the Constitution,” and rewriting them to conform to a pet theory of executive power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those canny practical psychologists, the framers of the constitution, understood that the office holder is just a human being, and thus capable of mischief. The powers of the office must be circumscribed to limit the scope of that predictable mischief. We have allowed an office holder to dictate the powers of the office, with catastrophic results. The major democratic candidates for president say they, too, will not be bound by the chains of the constitution, so they must be bound  down involuntarily.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The best way to do this is to begin impeachment hearings now. Whether such hearings lead to impeachment or not is less important than the fact that they will say to the present and future executive, 'we won’t permit lawless, unconstitutional behavior by a president.  No office holder can unilaterally decide to ignore laws, to ignore treaties, to commit domestic and international crimes and consider themselves untouchable.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other option is to  “wait and see.”  While the democratic contenders for the next president haven’t said they will give up the power Bush has seized, they have said they will use it less frequently and/or “less aggressively.” Maybe the tools Bush has taken up will, by and large,  go back into the toolbox and the behavior of the next president take on a more familiar and acceptable quality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a vindication of the malignant political theory used to justify the assumption of tyrannical power by the executive.  If  another president inherits the powers Bush has taken up, these powers will received the imprimatur of precedent, and the course of the country will be unalterably set towards a darker future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To let these powers persist unchecked is also a victory for neoconservatives: If they can’t be in power, let the illegal powers they have seized for the office of the president be waiting for them when they are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And a democratic president with tyrannical powers who &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;isn&lt;/span&gt;’t using them at the moment, or is only using them “less aggressively,” is no more compatible with democracy than a president like George Bush who is using them with zeal. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;No&lt;/span&gt; president should have the power of limitless executive detention without recourse to the courts,  the power to ignore any law, to rewrite law, to be the sole interpreter of treaties, to torture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Suppose one of these democrats is elected and executive overreaching, less &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;aggressive&lt;/span&gt; and abusive though it may be, finally becomes intolerable to the public. This eventuality is also victory  for neoconservatives: If  public outrage finally demands rebuke and censure, let it be a democratic administration that is publicly slapped down, not the republican president who rightly earned this punishment. All the better to allow a new administration, pledged to “restore the dignity of the office of the president” to ride into office.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To wait and see,  to allow illegal executive powers to persist and to rely upon the goodness of men to protect us from future abuse, is a fool’s errand. Bind them down from mischief, and do it now, or expect mischief.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/747714192334127600-1988557988041788599?l=www.theothereveningnews.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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If this slogan means anything, it means that   American troops can finally leave Iraq when Iraqi security forces are capable of independent operation, that is, when they have achieved “Operational Readiness Assessment Level 1,” and are:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“fully capable of planning, executing, and sustaining independent operations”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How many Iraqi army battalions are now at ORA level 1? There is currently no publicly available answer to that question. But in what public information is available, the likely answer that emerges is “&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;none&lt;/span&gt;.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The number of ORA level 1 troops in Iraq used to be public information, updated every 3 months:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In June 2005, 3 out of 100 Iraqi battalions were said to be at level 1 combat readiness, that is, capable of independent operation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Three months later, in Sept 2005, &lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9531843/"&gt;1 battalion out of 100&lt;/a&gt; was at level 1 readiness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Feb. 2006, &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/24/AR2006022401816.html"&gt;not a single Iraqi battalion was judged capable of independent operation&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In August 2006, how many Iraqi battalions were at level 1 readiness? Sorry, citizen, that information is now &lt;a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20060615015343/http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060612/NEWS07/606120361/1009"&gt;classified&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The decision to stop making the information public came after reports showed a steady decline in the number of qualified Iraqi units. That number now is classified, said Air Force Lt. Gen. Victor &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Renuart&lt;/span&gt;, director of strategic plans and policy for the Joint Chiefs of Staff.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The readiness of US trained Iraqi forces, as measured in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;ORA's&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;TRA's&lt;/span&gt; (Transitional Readiness Assessments)  is still unavailable, apparently &lt;a href="http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=35882"&gt;even to Congress&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The Defense Department has resisted auditors' efforts to obtain data on the military readiness of U.S.-trained Iraqi troops, according to a senior government official.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Comptroller General David M. Walker told audience members at a Government Executive breakfast Wednesday that Defense has not complied with repeated Government Accountability Office requests for evaluations of Iraqi troop preparedness, known as transitional readiness assessments. The Pentagon develops those evaluations for Iraqi and U.S. forces, Walker said, and has a statutory obligation to release them to GAO.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In addition to classifying the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;ORAs&lt;/span&gt; of Iraqi troops, Something else happened in 2006, the definition of ORA Level 1 in reference to Iraqi troop units was altered from:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“A Level 1 unit is fully capable of planning, executing, and sustaining independent operations.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;to&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“A Level 1 unit is capable of planning, executing, and sustaining counterinsurgency operations.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, with "fully" and "independent" now omitted from the definition, the new definition of level 1 is essentially identical to the old definition of level 2. These definitions are from a &lt;a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jul2005/d20050721secstab.pdf"&gt;July 2005&lt;/a&gt; report to Congress:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“A Level 1 unit is fully capable of planning, executing, and sustaining&lt;br /&gt;independent counterinsurgency operations.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“A Level 2 unit is capable of planning, executing, and sustaining&lt;br /&gt;counterinsurgency operations with coalition support.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the 2006 redefinition of level 1, the omission of “fully” and “independent” implies, rather than directly states, the requirement for coalition support.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the &lt;a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070712.html"&gt;Initial “Benchmark Assessment Report”&lt;/a&gt; issued in Sept '07 the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Whitehouse&lt;/span&gt; employs  the language of “independence” in relation to operational readiness, but now, instead of defining ORA Level 1 in terms of full independence, "independence" is defined in terms of the new 2006 Level 1:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“There are 9 Iraqi Army divisions, 31 Brigades, and 95 battalions in the operational lead for their area of responsibility. For an Iraqi unit to be designated capable of independent operations, it must achieve an Operational Readiness Assessment (ORA) Level 1 status. There has been a slight reduction in units assessed as capable of independent operations since January 2007.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whereas achieving the old ORA level 1 meant the attainment of “fully independent” capability, now the capacity for “independent operation”   &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;means &lt;/span&gt;achieving the new 2006 ORA Level 1 (= the 2005 Level 2) status. That is, a unit "capable of independent operations" is now defined as one capable of operation with coalition support (with the need for support implied in the new definition of level 1, and explicitly noted in the new definition of level 2). This version of the report notes a “slight reduction” in troop numbers at the new level 1.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the &lt;a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/09/20070914.html"&gt;Final Benchmark Report&lt;/a&gt; issued in Sept. ‘07, this language has been altered to more prominently feature the idea of Iraqi troop unit "independence:"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Since March 2007, there has been a 14 percent increase in the number of independent Iraqi Army operations, including 20 units operating independently as part of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Fardh&lt;/span&gt; Al-&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Qanoon&lt;/span&gt; and 10 units assuming the lead role in their areas of responsibility. While &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;only a small percentage of battalions are rated as capable of completely independent counterinsurgency operations&lt;/span&gt; (Operational Readiness Assessment Level One), over 75 percent are capable of planning, executing, and sustaining operations with some Coalition support and of making significant contributions to combat operations.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is “completely independent” being used here in a conventional or an idiosyncratic sense? Is the “small percentage” of battalions at ORA level 1 at the new or the old level 1?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.c-span.org/pdf/jonesreport090607.pdf"&gt;The Report of the Independent Commission on the Security Forces of Iraq&lt;/a&gt; also released in Sept ‘07 makes it clear that the“independent" capability of Iraqi forces is to be understood in its new sense, that is, as meaning “still requiring  coalition support.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If any Iraqi troop units are at ORA level 1 as originally defined (and as it it used in the assessment of US combat units) and are thus truly "completely independent,"  it would be those new level 1 units capable of operation &lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;without &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;coalition support&lt;/span&gt;. The Commission Report makes it clear that there are &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;no &lt;/span&gt;Iraqi forces with this capability. Even  the 1500 man Iraqi Special Operations Forces brigade, “the most capable element of the Iraqi armed forces ” lacks the ability for true independent operation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Iraqi Special Operations Forces are and are well-trained in both individual and collective skills. They are currently capable of leading &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;counterterrorism&lt;/span&gt; operations, but t&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;hey continue to require Coalition support. They remain dependent on the Coalition for many combat enablers, especially airlift, close air support, and targeting intelligence&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Overall:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The Iraqi armed forces—Army, Special Forces, Navy, and Air Force—are increasingly effective and are capable of assuming greater responsibility for the internal security of Iraq; and the Iraqi police are improving, but not at a rate sufficient to meet their essential security responsibilities. &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;The Iraqi Security Forces [&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;ISF&lt;/span&gt;] will continue to rely on the Coalition to provide key enablers such as combat support (aviation support, intelligence, and communications), combat service support (logistics, supply chain management, and maintenance), and training. The Commission assesses that in the next 12 to 18 months there will be continued improvement in their readiness and capability, but not the ability to operate independently.”&lt;/span&gt; p.12&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Despite the (deliberate) ambiguity in government accounts of Iraqi troop unit capabilities, e.g., the re-definition of ORA “level 1” without the use of the term “independent,” coupled with the continued use of that term (without explicit definition) in describing operational readiness, what emerges from public accounts is a picture of an Iraqi military with some increasingly capable units (special operations) but with a continued overall dependence on coalition (US) forces that is “substantial at times.” p.37&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;Although the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;ISF&lt;/span&gt; have made significant progress in many areas, the Commission finds that they are not yet able to execute these missions independently. Without continued combat support, combat service support, and assistance from Coalition Military Transition Teams, it is unlikely that the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;ISF&lt;/span&gt; will achieve, in the near term, the proficiency and readiness needed to provide security for Iraq&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;p. 35&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The truth of the matter seems to be that Iraqi forces are no where near ready to take over the tasks now performed by US forces. They show no sign of being able to do so in the near and even the not-so-near future. 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Forget about Bush—And The Middle Ground&lt;/a&gt;) contains this paragragh:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"A year ago, Michael Tomasky wrote a perceptive piece titled 'Obama the anti-Bush,' in which he described Barack Obama's appeal: After the bitter partisanship of the Bush years, Tomasky argued, voters are attracted to 'someone who speaks of his frustration with our polarized politics and his fervent desire to transcend the red-blue divide.'"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think its time to recall another candidate who packaged himself exactly that way, as the longed-for antidote to political polarization: George Bush.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have you forgotten “the uniter not a divider” of the 2000 elections? And the packaging worked. The hapless, aggressively ignorant, illiterate, muti-arrested Bush managed to persuade (some of) the country that that was all surface, concealing a shining core of moral certainty, unwavering rectitude and deep desire to bring us all together. “&lt;a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020917-7.html"&gt;Fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again.&lt;/a&gt;” Let us hope so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama is not another Bush. But Obama is now a package, and the packaging is the same one Bush successfully used: The Outsider/Newcomer as yet  unspoiled by Washington’s divisive ways. Bush was not the package, and neither is Obama. What he is remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I republish from an old post these quotations; half are Bush and half Obama. Can you tell the difference?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I want to change the tone of Washington to one of civility and respect.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“You can disagree without being disagreeable, and you can find consensus without compromising your beliefs.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I know America wants reconciliation and unity. I know Americans want progress. And we must seize this moment and deliver.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Washington’s become a place where keeping score of who’s up and who’s down is more important than who’s working on behalf of the American people.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Washington can be a place where people come together to get the people's business done.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“… if we do not fundamentally change the way Washington works – then the problems we’ve been talking about for the last generation will be the same ones that haunt us for generations to come.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Our nation must rise above a house divided. Americans share hopes and goals and values far more important than any political disagreements.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“… the American people are hungry for a different kind of politics – the kind of politics based on the ideals this country was founded upon. The idea that we are all connected as one people.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The president of the United States is the president of every single American, of every race and every background.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Divided, we are bound to fail.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The quotes alternate, starting with Bush.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It may “feel like something new” to Oprah, but it looks like an old familiar song to me. That doesn’t mean Obama is the next national nightmare waiting to happen, it means we don’t know who we are electing when we focus on the package. “By their fruits ye shall know them” seems like a solid guiding principle for accessing candidates. 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At one point,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;it was thought the tapes could serve as a backstop to guarantee that other methods of documenting the interrogations—and the crucial information they produced—were accurate and complete.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;The Agency soon determined that its documentary reporting was full and exacting, removing any need for tapes. Indeed, videotaping stopped in 2002.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;“Beyond their lack of intelligence value—as&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;the interrogation sessions had already been exhaustively detailed in written channels&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;—&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;and the absence of any legal or internal reason to keep them, the tapes posed a serious security risk. Were they ever to leak, they would permit identification of your CIA colleagues who had served in the program, exposing them and their families to retaliation from &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;al&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Qa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;’&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;ida&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; and its sympathizers.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;And Now: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316552,00.html"&gt;Sources: Destroyed CIA Videotapes Were Hundreds of Hours; No Transcripts Made&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;“The destroyed CIA videotapes at the center of a growing investigation recorded roughly a ‘couple hundred hours’ with two terror suspects, a small portion of which showed interrogators using "enhanced" interrogation methods that might have included &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;waterboarding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;“But, U.S. officials tell FOX News,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;no transcripts of the standard, VHS-style videotapes ever were made&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;. That would mean the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;only record of what happened during the interrogations captured on the tapes appears to lie in interrogators' summaries that were sent electronically from the sites of the interrogation back to CIA headquarters in Langley, Va.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;“Much of the tape, the officials said, was the equivalent of surveillance of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Zubaydah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; in his cell. The tapes were taken in 2002, and the CIA destroyed them in 2005.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;So, were the tapes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;(A) an “accurate and complete” backup of “crucial information.” A backup rendered superfluous because it had been duplicated in “exhaustively detailed,” “full and exacting” “documentary reporting.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;or&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;(B) never documented at all, so that “the only record of what happened during the interrogations captured on the tapes appears to lie in interrogators' summaries;” and/or so unimportant as to merit no documentation at all,  just hours of dreary surveillance tapes (maybe &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Abu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Zubaydah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; sleeping and brushing his teeth, presumably with CIA interrogators, explaining why even these tapes had to be destroyed to protect their identities.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;It can't be both.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/747714192334127600-8173260740689377264?l=www.theothereveningnews.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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So rather than arguing for an altered stance toward Iran, he sees the new &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;NIE&lt;/span&gt; as an encouragement to get even tougher, both in Iran and Iraq:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“But if one chooses not to be fatalistic [about the inevitability of Iran acquiring nuclear weapons], and to think about what might induce an Iranian ‘political decision’ to abandon its nuclear program, part of the answer, surely, is a more robust effort to pressure the Iranian regime. Another part is the credible use of force--as in 2003.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The final part is victory in Iraq. President Bush's successful shift in strategy in Iraq a year ago, as part of his commitment to finishing that job, remains his greatest contribution to peace in the Middle East. The complete and unequivocal defeat of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;al&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Qaeda&lt;/span&gt; and of Iranian-backed proxies in Iraq is the best way to show Iran that the United States is a serious power to be reckoned with in the region.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Kristol&lt;/span&gt;’s argument for his claim consists entirely of noting that Iran’s weapons program ended after the Iraq war began. It &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;shouldn&lt;/span&gt;’t need mentioning, but this reasoning is so famously bad that it has its own name: post &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;hoc&lt;/span&gt;, ergo &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;propter&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;hoc&lt;/span&gt;. Just 4 days after US seized control of Baghdad airport, Syracuse won the NCAA Championship, coincidence? The final score was 81-78.  The US suffered exactly 81 &lt;a href="http://icasualties.org/oif/"&gt;casualties &lt;/a&gt;in Feb. of this year and exactly 78 in July, "surely," you can see the connection?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another "&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;credible&lt;/span&gt; use of force," this time against 89% &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt; Iran, is the single most efficient way to dramatically worsen the situation in Iraq. Now, Iraq's 60% &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt; population is more favorably disposed towards the occupation and (naturally) more supportive of the objective of a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt;-led national &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;government&lt;/span&gt; than the Sunni minority. This is reflected in the findings of the latest (12/3/07)  &lt;a href="http://www.brookings.edu/saban/iraq-index.aspx"&gt;Iraq Index&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: How would you say things are going in Iraq overall these days?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Very bad”  Sunni: 60%  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt;: 20%&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Do you support the presence of coalition troops in Iraq?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Strongly/somewhat support”   Sunni: 2%  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt;: 20%&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Do you think your children will have a better life than you, worse, or about the same?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Better”  Sunni: 7%  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt; 55%&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Do you approve or disapprove  of the way Prime Minister  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17"&gt;Nouri&lt;/span&gt; Al-&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;Maliki&lt;/span&gt;  is handling his job?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Approve”  Sunni: 3%  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt; 67%&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: What is your expectation for how things will be for Iraq a year from now?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Much or somewhat better”    Sunni: 5%  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt; 61%&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Do you approve or disapprove (strongly or somewhat)  of attacks on US-led  forces in Iraq?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Approve”  Sunni:88%  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_21"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt;: 41%&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While now more tolerant of occupation and more favorably disposed toward the goals of the current government, tolerance and cooperation will end if Iran is attacked. The Iranian and Iraqi  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt; communities have strong connections. Grand Ayatollah Ali &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23"&gt;al&lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_24"&gt;Sistani&lt;/span&gt;, leader of Iraqi &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_25"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt;, is an Iranian national. A US attack on Iran will be viewed by &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_26"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt; Iraq as an attack on &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_27"&gt;Shias&lt;/span&gt;. The consequence aren't hard to foresee.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In addition to alienating Iraqi &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_28"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt;, Iranian &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_29"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt; who now judge a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_30"&gt;Shia&lt;/span&gt;-led Iraq to be in Iran's best interests are likely to dramatically alter their view:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“. . .in the event of an attack on Iran, this calculus would likely yield to a desire for revenge. In such a scenario, Iranian Revolutionary Guards could cross the border in great numbers to promote a full-blown guerrilla war against the large U.S. presence in Iraq. Iranian intelligence agents, who are currently in Iraq in significant numbers, could provoke clashes between the U.S. forces and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_31"&gt;Shi'a&lt;/span&gt; majority, precipitating a general uprising against Coalition forces in Iraq. It is important to note that, unlike the foreign &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_32"&gt;Salafi&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_33"&gt;Jihadi&lt;/span&gt; fighters (a la &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_34"&gt;Abu&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_35"&gt;Musab&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_36"&gt;al&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_37"&gt;Zarqawi&lt;/span&gt; and his &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_38"&gt;Tawhid&lt;/span&gt; network) who infiltrated Iraq to fight the Americans and are despised by the Iraqi &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_39"&gt;Shi'a&lt;/span&gt;, Iranian infiltrators in Iraq are likely to be seen by Iraqi &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_40"&gt;Shi'a&lt;/span&gt; in a very different light.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;. . .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“In the event of an American or Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, it is likely that Iran would attempt to take advantage of its extensive list of allies in Iraq to further sour the U.S. occupation and provoke clashes between U.S. troops and Iraqi &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_41"&gt;Shi'a&lt;/span&gt;, which may well result in a popular Iraqi &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_42"&gt;Shi'a&lt;/span&gt; uprising against the American presence in Iraq. In such an event, American casualties and costs would multiply exponentially as Iraq further disintegrates into Lebanon-style violence. Such developments would prove disastrous for U.S. interests in the Middle East and negate any perceived or actual benefits that may be gained from destroying Iran's nuclear facilities. The fact is that the strategic usefulness of a successful preemptive attack on Iran's nuclear facilities is likely to be short-lived if the United States gets further bogged down in Iraq.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/040812.htm"&gt;[From: &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/040812.htm"&gt;A Preemptive Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facilities: Possible Consequences&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;by Sammy &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_43"&gt;Salama&lt;/span&gt; and Karen &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_44"&gt;Ruster&lt;/span&gt;, August 12, 2004]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So far from stabilizing the Middle East, another "robust" Iraq-style “credible use of force--as in 2003” would alienate now favorably disposed Iraqi &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_45"&gt;Shias&lt;/span&gt; and unite them with their Sunni counterparts in the common goal of violence toward US forces. 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"You need 218 in the House to impeach and 67 in the Senate to convict, and 218 and 67 just aren't there," he said, peering over his glasses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"But beyond that — do you know what a boost that would give Bush if we tried and failed to convict him? He would have an outpouring of sympathy for him, we'd be discredited, and it might help elect one of his clones.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Nothing is more important than stopping that from happening."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Conyers&lt;/span&gt; is dead wrong about the effects of impeachment, both regarding Bush personally ("an out pouring of sympathy") and politically (“it might help elect his clones.”) The course democrats have charted is one that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;guarantees &lt;/span&gt;that a Bush clone will be elected. By allowing unconstitutional power to pass from one president to another, by ignoring lawless behavior, by passing legislation to retroactively legalize such behavior, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Conyers&lt;/span&gt; and the democrats have assured that the same abusive power will carry over into the next presidency, no matter who is elected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To imagine that a democratic president will turn his or her back on the tools &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Conyers&lt;/span&gt; and the congress will hand to them does not even deserve to be called “&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;naïve&lt;/span&gt;.” The structure of our government is based on the assumption that anyone with power will tend to abuse it, and therefore requires a check on that power. ("In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." Thomas Jefferson.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To fail to provide that check on executive power is an unforgivable breach of members of Congress’ solemn oath to protect and defend the constitution of the United States. If &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;Conyers&lt;/span&gt; focused on his oath, the way forward towards impeachment would be crystal clear: 'nothing is more important' than protecting and defending the constitution, and impeachment is the tool provided for by that constitution for reigning in the power of a lawless executive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When they appeared with &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/transcript2.html"&gt;Bill &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;Moyers&lt;/span&gt;, Bruce &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;Fein&lt;/span&gt; and John Nichols&lt;/a&gt; addressed the larger issues that necessitate impeachment proceedings. I have emphasized those portions of their responses that seem to address reasoning like &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;Conyer&lt;/span&gt;’s and that point out the crucial facts that both he and Nancy &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;Pelosi&lt;/span&gt; seem content to ignore.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;On January 20&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;th&lt;/span&gt;, 2009, if George Bush and Dick Cheney are not appropriately held to account this administration will hand off a toolbox with more powers than any president has ever had, more powers than the founders could have imagined.&lt;/span&gt; And that box may be handed to Hillary Clinton or it may be handed to Mitt Romney or &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;Barack&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;Obama&lt;/span&gt; or someone else. But &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;whoever gets it, one of the things we know about power is that people don't give away the tools. They don't give them up. The only way we take tools out of that box is if we sanction George Bush and Dick Cheney now and say the next president cannot govern as these men have&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;. . .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BILL &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;MOYERS&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;You're saying you want the judiciary committee to call formal hearings on the impeachment of George Bush and Dick Cheney?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BRUCE &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;FEIN&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;Yes. Because there are political crimes that have been perpetrated in combination.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;It hasn't been one, the other being in isolation. And the hearings have to be not into this is a Republican or Democrat.&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;This is something that needs to set a precedent, whoever occupies the White House in 2009. You do not want to have that occupant, whether it's John McCain or Hillary Clinton or Rudy Giuliani or John Edwards to have this authority to go outside the law and say, "I am the law. I do what I want. No one &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17"&gt;else's&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; view matters."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: The hearings are important. There's no question at that. And we should be at that stage. Remember, Thomas Jefferson and others, the founders, suggested that impeachment was an organic process. That information would come out. The people would be horrified. They would tell their representatives in Congress, "You must act upon this." Well, the interesting thing is we are well down the track in the organic process. The people are saying it's time. We need some accountability.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BILL &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;MOYERS&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;But Nancy &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19"&gt;Pelosi&lt;/span&gt; doesn't agree.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;Nancy &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20"&gt;Pelosi&lt;/span&gt; is wrong. Nancy &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_21"&gt;Pelosi&lt;/span&gt; is disregarding her oath of office.&lt;/span&gt; She should change course now. And more importantly, members of her caucus and responsible Republicans should step up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;. . .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BILL &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22"&gt;MOYERS&lt;/span&gt;: You're--&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;does this process have to go all the way to the end? Do Bush and Cheney have to be impeached before it serves the public?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;I think that what Bush and Cheney have done makes a very good case that the public and the future would be well served if it did go all the way to the end. But there is absolutely a good that comes of this if the process begins, if we take it seriously.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;And the founders would have told you that, -- that impeachment is a dialogue. It is a discourse. And it is an educational process. &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;If Congress were to get serious about the impeachment discussions, to hold the hearings, to begin that dialogue, they would begin to educate the American people and perhaps themselves about the system of checks and balances, about the powers of the presidency, about, you know, what we can expect and what we should expect of our government.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And so I think that when Jefferson spoke about this wonderful notion of his that said the tree of liberty must be watered every 20 years with the blood of patriots, I don't know that he was necessarily talked about warfare. I think he was saying that at a pretty regular basis we ought to seek to hold our-- highest officials to account and that process, the seeking to hold them to account, wherever it holds up, is-- a necessary function of the republic. If we don't do it, we move further and further toward an imperial presidency.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;. . .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BILL &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23"&gt;MOYERS&lt;/span&gt;: You just said in one sentence there "impeach Bush and Cheney." You're talking about taking that ax against the head of government, both of them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: No. No, no, no.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BRUCE &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_24"&gt;FEIN&lt;/span&gt;: It's not an ax, Bill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: We're talking--&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BRUCE &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_25"&gt;FEIN&lt;/span&gt;: It's not an ax-- it's not--Impeachment is not a criminal proceeding.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: You are being--&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BRUCE &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_26"&gt;FEIN&lt;/span&gt;: --we cannot entrust the reins of power, unchecked power, with these people. They're untrustworthy. They're asserting theories of governments that are monarchical. We don't want them to exercise it. We don't want Hillary Clinton or Rudy Giuliani or anyone in the future to exercise that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: Bill &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_27"&gt;Moyers&lt;/span&gt;, you are making a mistake. You are making a mistake that too many people make.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BILL &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_28"&gt;MOYERS&lt;/span&gt;: Yes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: You are seeing impeachment as a constitutional crisis.&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;Impeachment is the cure for a constitutional crisis. Don't mistake the medicine for the disease. When you have a constitutional crisis, the founders are very clear. They said there is a way to deal with this. We don't have to have a war. We don't have to raise an army and go to Washington. We have procedures in place where we can sanction a president appropriately, do what needs to be done up to the point of removing him from office and continue the republic&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;So we're not talking here about taking an ax to government. Quite the opposite. We are talking about applying some necessary strong medicine that may cure not merely the crisis of the moment but, done right-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;. . .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BRUCE &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_29"&gt;FEIN&lt;/span&gt;: It's not an attack on Bush and Cheney in the sense of their personal-- attacks. Listen, if you impeach them, they can live happily ever after into their-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: And go to San Clemente.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BRUCE &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_30"&gt;FEIN&lt;/span&gt;: Yes, go to San Clemente or go back to the ranch or whatever. But it's saying no, it's the Constitution that's more important than your aggrandizing of power. And not just for you because the precedent that would be set would bind every successor in the presidency as well, no matter Republican, Democrat, Independent, or otherwise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: The fact of the matter is that, again, the genius of impeachment is it tells the president that, wow, there is a Congress. And that Congress is on your case. And it causes, I think at its best, it causes a president to want to prove he can cooperate, to want to prove he can live within the law.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BRUCE &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_31"&gt;FEIN&lt;/span&gt;: Can I interrupt just a second here?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BILL &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_32"&gt;MOYERS&lt;/span&gt;: Yeah, sure, sure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BRUCE &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_33"&gt;FEIN&lt;/span&gt;: 'Cause it seems to me very important.&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;I think that if impeachment proceedings began and the president and the vice-president sat back and said, "We understand now. We both understand. We renounce this claim. No military commissions. We're going to comply with the law," the impeachment proceedings ought to stop and they should&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt; It's not trying to be punitive and recriminate against the officials but you've got to get it right. And it's that what I hope would happen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;I&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;'ve said if the president now renouncing the power and said, "It was wrong and I now respect and honor the separation and the genius of the founding fathers," that's great. And all of the purpose of impeachment would have been accomplished&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;They could stay in office and we'd have the greatest precedent with regards to executive authority and the separation of powers and checks and balances. This is not an effort to try to blacken the names of the president and vice-president. And nothing would gratify me more than having them stand up and say, "Yeah, I've thought about this now. My mind is concentrated wonderfully," as Sam Johnson would say. The prospect of impeachment, I've been convinced.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: But also we would have hit that educational moment, that rare moment where a president of the United States has been forced to-- go before the American people and say, "Oh, yeah, I just remembered, you're the boss. You are the bosses. Not me. And that I am not a king." &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;Again,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;this is why raising impeachment at this point, it's a very late point, is so important. Because we are defining what the presidency will be in the future today because we do know the high crimes and misdemeanors of George Bush and Dick Cheney&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;They have been well illustrated even by a-- rather lax media. They have been discussed in Congress&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;If we know these things and we do not hold them to account, then we are saying, as a people and as a Congress, we are saying that we can find out that you have violated the rule of law. We can find out that you have disregarded the Constitution. You-- we can find out that you've done harm to the republic. But there will still be no penalty for that. If that's the standard that we've set, it will hold. It will not be erased in the future&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BRUCE &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_34"&gt;FEIN&lt;/span&gt;: One of the lessons we should have learned from the Nixon impeachment is that it didn't quite fulfill its purpose because Nixon was never compelled to renounce what he'd done.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JOHN NICHOLS: Yes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;. . .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_35"&gt;Conyers&lt;/span&gt; has things exactly backwards. The best way to assure that the lawless, unconstitutional behavior of George Bush and Dick Cheney do not spread further is to hold impeachment hearings, not avoid them at all costs. We are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;creating &lt;/span&gt;Bush clones, not keeping them from office, by guaranteeing that whoever is president has powers reserved for Kings and dictators.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A successful outcome of impeachment proceedings is not obtaining 218 votes in the house and 67 in the senate, it’s reminding the President that he is not the law, that he works for us, and that we are fellow citizens, not subjects.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/747714192334127600-5071673121954464628?l=www.theothereveningnews.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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In a town where you can’t swing a dead lobbyist without hitting a hypocritical gasbag, Graham take hypocrisy to a new level. I think it’s the combination of hypocrisy and sanctimony with  breathtaking duplicity that give him the nod. Graham’s dissembles very pleasingly and convincingly about his love of  liberty and the rule of law, while quietly and tirelessly working to subvert both. His well established MO is to look tough and ‘independent’ in public and  quietly vote the party line (90.6%  of the time during his years in the Senate, according to the &lt;a href="http://www.acuratings.org/2006all.htm#SC"&gt;American Conservative Union&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take, for example his work to deprive detainees of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;habeas&lt;/span&gt; corpus rights.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“It must never be forgotten that the writ of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;habeas&lt;/span&gt; corpus is the precious safeguard of personal liberty and there is no higher duty than to maintain it unimpaired.”&lt;br /&gt;Chief Justice Hughes  (&lt;a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?navby=case&amp;amp;court=us&amp;amp;vol=306&amp;amp;invol=19#26"&gt;Bowen v. Johnston, 306 U.S. 19 (1939)&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To deny that this "precious safeguard" applied to enemy combatants, Graham pretended that the right to petition for &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;habeas&lt;/span&gt; corpus is conferred upon persons by virtue of their &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;American&lt;/span&gt; citizenship:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;a href="http://frwebgate4.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=06710524272+1+0+0&amp;amp;WAISaction=retrieve"&gt;If you want to give a Guantanamo Bay detainee &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;habeas&lt;/span&gt; corpus rights as a U.S. citizen,&lt;/a&gt; not only have you changed the law of armed conflict like no one else in the history of the world, I think you are undermining our national security ….”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/july-dec05/detainee_11-14.html"&gt;Of all the people&lt;/a&gt; in the world who should enjoy the rights of an American citizen in federal court the people at Guantanamo Bay are the last that we should confer that status on.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;a href="http://frwebgate4.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=06710524272+8+0+0&amp;amp;WAISaction=retrieve"&gt;To me, it is absurd&lt;/a&gt; that an enemy combatant, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;non-citizen&lt;/span&gt; terrorist has &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;habeas&lt;/span&gt; corpus rights, and the reason they do is because we are giving no guidance to the courts about how we want these people treated.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/05/AR2005120501926.html"&gt;"Did we ever intend &lt;/a&gt;for enemy combatants captured on the battlefield to be given the same rights as U.S. citizens in our federal courts?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The right to file a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;habeas&lt;/span&gt; corpus petition is not a right of citizenship, but a right conferred on anyone, citizen or not, by virtue of the fact that they are a prisoner of the United States. The constitution assumes that those detained by the United States have &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;habeas&lt;/span&gt; corpus rights, and famously mentions the right only to make clear the 2 very limited conditions under which it may be suspended: "The privilege of the writ of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;habeas&lt;/span&gt; corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Senator Graham also actively promoted the fiction that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;habeas&lt;/span&gt; corpus is the source of frivolous, court-clogging lawsuits:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;a href="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14890882/site/newsweek/page/4/"&gt;There are 400 and something lawsuits&lt;/a&gt; filed against our guys complaining about the food, the TV access, all kinds of crap. Prisoners of war don’t sue their captors.... &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;Habeas&lt;/span&gt; rights came about because the Bush administration took such a hard line.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/11/politics/11detain.html?ex=1289365200&amp;amp;en=d815984502e0cadf&amp;amp;ei=5088&amp;amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;amp;emc=rss"&gt;It is not fair to our troops&lt;/a&gt; fighting in the war on terror to be sued in every court in the land by our enemies based on every possible complaint.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A petition for &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;habeas&lt;/span&gt; corpus has only one purpose: to compel those who hold the petitioner to prove to an impartial judge that they do so lawfully. If they cannot, the petitioner is entitled to be set free.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Although in form the Great Writ is simply a mode of procedure, its history is inextricably intertwined with the growth of fundamental rights of personal liberty. For its function has been to provide a prompt and efficacious remedy for whatever society deems to be intolerable restraints. Its root principle is that in a civilized society, government must always be accountable to the judiciary for a man's imprisonment: if the imprisonment cannot be shown to conform with the fundamental requirements of law, the individual is entitled to his immediate release."&lt;br /&gt;Justice &lt;a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?navby=case&amp;amp;court=us&amp;amp;vol=372&amp;amp;invol=391"&gt;William J. Brennan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Graham’s work in the Graham Amendment to the 2006 Defense Appropriations Bill, and the language of the amendment subsequently incorporated into The Military Commission Act of 2006  stripped the right to petition for &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;habeas&lt;/span&gt; corpus from those we hold in prisons around the world, and to any “enemy combatant” in our custody. The America of Lindsey Graham  denies the root principle of civilized society set forth by Brennen. We would now teach fledgling democracies about ‘liberty’ in ‘civilized society’  by denying those we hold captive a right “inextricably intertwined with the growth of fundamental rights of personal liberty.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In his &lt;a href="http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/presiden/inaug/jefinau1.htm"&gt;first &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;inaugural&lt;/span&gt; address&lt;/a&gt; Jefferson lists among "the essential principles of our government" along with "equal and exact justice to all men," freedom of religion and freedom of the press, "freedom of person under the protection of the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;habeas&lt;/span&gt; corpus."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Give me this road to liberty and safety. Let Graham and his cohort travel alone along the path of error and alarm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?navby=case&amp;amp;court=us&amp;amp;vol=372&amp;amp;invol=391"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/747714192334127600-2424429608404330122?l=www.theothereveningnews.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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We have captured someone who knows how to stop the bomb. He won’t volunteer what he knows, is it OK to torture him to get the life-saving information? Those who invoke the “ticking bomb” (TB) scenario seem to think that it defines a narrow range of  circumstances where torture &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;is &lt;/span&gt;acceptable. I don’t think it does. So before Jack shoots anyone in the knee-cap, we should tease out the conditions that the TB scenario is supposed to define where torture is permissible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ticking bomb scenario suggests torture is permissible when three conditions are met:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(1) There is a clearly defined imminent threat to (many) innocent lives (like a ticking bomb).&lt;br /&gt;(2) We have in custody someone we know has information that will let us end that  imminent      threat.&lt;br /&gt;(3) Torture is the only way to get that information.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or expressed as a single guiding principle:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(4) Torture is justified if it is the only way to get information necessary to prevent the     imminent loss of (many) innocent lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the real world, satisfying condition (3) is always a problem. Is torture ever the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;only &lt;/span&gt;way to extract accurate, actionable information in a timely way? Granted, it's probably the fastest way to get someone to say &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;something&lt;/span&gt;, but that’s not what we need when the bomb is ticking down. But set this larger problem aside for the moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another  problem that arises is how, in practice, we are to know when (2) is satisfied. How do we &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;know &lt;/span&gt;the guy we want to torture has the details we need? Perhaps we have a letter from the terrorist’s colleague thanking him for recently recounting all the details of the plot? How do we &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;know &lt;/span&gt;that  letter to be genuine?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To apply in the real world, condition (2) will have to be something weaker:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(2a) We have in custody someone &lt;span&gt;we&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; have good reason to believe&lt;/span&gt; has information that will let us end the imminent threat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we are justified in believing that damning letter is real, (2a) is satisfied.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But in light of the changes to (2), condition (3) must be altered too. We may have good reasons for believing x knows what we want, but clearly, despite due diligence on our part, our belief can be wrong. Built into (2a) is the possibility that torture will reveal that x does &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt;, in fact, have the details we thought he might. In which case the situation no longer satisfies (4). The torture of x is not justified if x doesn’t know the necessary live-saving information because it obviously cannot reveal that information. Thus (3) must be adjusted if we are to derive a general guiding principle from the TB scenario:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(3a) Torture is the only way to get the information needed to end an imminent threat to     innocent lives, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;or the only way to determine if someone has such information&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Adjusting (4) in light of the changes to (2) and (3) gives us:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(4a) Torture is justified if it is the only way to get information needed to prevent the     imminent loss of innocent lives, or it is the only way to determine if someone has such information.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So from ticking bomb cases two general principles regarding torture emerge:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(A) Torture is justified if it is the only way to get information needed to prevent the  imminent loss of innocent lives&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(B) Torture is justified if it is the only way to determine if someone has information needed to prevent the imminent loss of innocent lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(A) is what people who find justification for torture in TB scenarios want to take away them, but if we think  such scenarios justify torture to save innocent lives,  we must accept that they also justify torturing those who, as it turns out, cannot help us save any innocent lives at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(B) opens the door to a broader application of torture than is usually allowed to be acceptable by those invoking TB scenarios: Are terrorist hatching plots right now that threaten innocent lives? Are some of these plots close to fruition? It’s Bush administration gospel that they are. Isn’t it desirable to find out about these plots, and find out how to stop them, as soon as possible?  Well, if we torture, say, a Guantanamo detainee just to see if he happens to have details that can end a threat we don’t yet know about, and we find out he does, isn‘t that better than not finding out and suffering mass casualties? It’s this kind of “speculative” torture that (B) seems to legitimize. X &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;claims &lt;/span&gt;not to know about any plots, but he's a godless, freedom-hating terrorist, let’s torture him to see if, in fact, he &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;does &lt;/span&gt;know how to stop a plot already underway  to take innocent lives. We just might find out he was lying and save a lot of people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ticking bomb scenario does not define a narrow range of circumstances where torture is clearly permissible. 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All that's left to discuss is whether we are to torture covertly or openly:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Although I am personally opposed to the use of torture, I have no doubt that any president--indeed any leader of a democratic nation--would in fact authorize some forms of torture against a captured terrorist if he believed that this was the only way of securing information necessary to prevent an imminent mass casualty attack. The only dispute is whether he would do so openly with accountability or secretly with deniability.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obviously, if a leader believes that torture is “the only way of securing information necessary to prevent an imminent mass casualty attack” they might authorize torture. The question, of course, is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;should &lt;/span&gt;they believe it? Is it, in fact, true? An authorization of torture based on a false belief in its efficacy would warrant not only the moral commendation Dershowitz’s personal opposition to torture would presumably bring, but legal condemnation as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Declarations to the contrary aside, there is a dispute about whether torture is ever the only way, or even the most expeditious way, to secure accurate, actionable information in a ticking bomb scenario. Dershowitz does not address these larger questions. In the only example of a real world TB case that he offers the vital information that averts imminent danger is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not &lt;/span&gt;obtained by torture. After recounting it, Dershowitz asks: ‘what if lawful interrogation hadn’t worked in this case?’ Well, what if it hadn’t?  It is hardly self-evident that we should default to torture just because it’s all that’s left. Dershowitz gives us no reason to think authorizing torture would be justified if this were so, he only offers this tilt at a straw man:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“There are some who claim that torture is a non-issue because it never works--it only produces false information. [Who?] This is simply not true, as evidenced by the many decent members of the French Resistance who, under Nazi torture, disclosed the locations of their closest friends and relatives.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clearly, torture &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;can &lt;/span&gt;produce accurate information. That alone will  hardly serve as a justification for authorizing it, any more than the fact that the Nazis produced useful medical information via experimentation on unwilling human subjects would justify authorizing that practice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While torture can work, the overarching practical problem for torture, a problem heightened in TB cases where time is of the essence,  is always how to winnow what’s true from what’s said in an attempt to end the torture. Dershowitz apparently has this problem in mind when he offers this distinction:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[Torture applied in a TB situation] “ …is not designed to secure confessions of past crimes, but rather to obtain real time, actionable intelligence deemed necessary to prevent an act of mass casualty terrorism. The question put to the captured terrorist is not "Did you do it?" Instead, the suspect is asked to disclose self-proving information, such as the location of the bomber.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By invoking the idea of "self-proving information" in his distinction between torture for confession and torture in TB cases, Dershowitz seems to be suggesting that the general unreliability of information obtained by torture (e.g., the unreliability of confessions obtained by torture) can be offset by the use of questions that elicit this kind of information.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what is “self-proving information"? Dershowitz seems to have in mind statements like: “the bomber is at 123 Main St.,” which suggests that “self-proving” is nothing more than “verifiable.” Statements such as “the code to defuse the bomb is 3451” obtained under torture are clearly verifiable. If you enter it, and its really the detonation code, the resulting explosion will neatly verify that the statement is false.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There’s no reason whatsoever to think that because the questions asked in a TB case are different from those asked when torture seeks a confession, the information obtained is somehow more reliable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Under what circumstances, if any, would a leader be justified in authorizing torture to save innocent lives? Merely being confronted with a TB scenario isn‘t enough, as Dershowitz’s own real world TB case shows: no torture was necessary to resolve it. The fact that torture &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;can &lt;/span&gt;work isn’t enough either. If that alone were sufficient justification all torture would be permissible and a leader would be justified it authorizing it carte blanche.  If anything justifies authorizing torture in a TB case it is a well-founded conviction that torture is, in fact, the only interrogation technique capable of producing the accurate, actionable information necessary in the time available.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But upon what would a leader base this conviction? The almost universal consensuses among interrogators seems to be that statements obtained by torture are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;less &lt;/span&gt;reliable than those obtained by conventional techniques. Misleading talk about “self-proving” statements aside, there is no easy way to quickly separate truthful statements obtained by torture from lies told to end torture. Quickly obtaining the least reliable information is not what ticking bomb cases require.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But even if torture is generally unreliable, when all else fails, and the bomb is still ticking, wouldn’t a leader be justified in authorizing torture as the only remaining way to prevent mass casualties?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, lets be clear in a way Dershowitz is not that such authorization could &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;never &lt;/span&gt;be based on the fact that casualties &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;will  &lt;/span&gt;be prevented by torture. At best, torture offers a slim hope that they &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;might &lt;/span&gt;be prevented.  But if torture in general isn’t justified simply because it might work, then torture in TB cases in particular is not justified simply because it might work. Appeals to the number of victims that might be saved verses one terrorist who will be tortured won’t work either. If torture in general isn’t justifiable simply because it is cost-effective in terms of lives and/or suffering, then torture in TB cases isn’t justified for that reason alone either.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Authorizing torture as a “Hail Mary,” just because it might work, is morally indefensible. If allowed to justify, say, waterboarding this way, the same argument (“it might work, and if it does, many will be saved“) could be used to justify the most barbarous extremes. (“Captured terrorist Al Badgai swears he’ll reveal the location of the ticking nuke if I behead Dick Cheney in front of him.  I have every reason to believe he’s sincere, so it just might work….”)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Authorizing torture in a TB case based on the mistaken conviction that torture is more, not less, likely to produce reliable, actionable information, or because torture is all we have left, is wrong.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/747714192334127600-6582613561786639962?l=www.theothereveningnews.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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So the British based research firm  &lt;a href="http://www.opinion.co.uk/Newsroom_details.aspx?NewsId=78"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;OBR&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/a&gt;reported &lt;a href="http://www.opinion.co.uk/Newsroom_details.aspx?NewsId=78"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; this September  in a study that corroborates the work of Gilbert &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Burnham&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;et&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;al&lt;/span&gt;. of the Johns Hopkins &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Bloomberg&lt;/span&gt; School of Public Health, who reported in “&lt;a href="http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/images/journals/lancet/s0140673606694919.PDF"&gt;Mortality after the 2003 invasion of Iraq: a cross-sectional cluster sample survey&lt;/a&gt;”  &lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(1)&lt;/span&gt; that as of July 2006, approximately 600,000 Iraqis had met violent deaths.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The American civil war killed 1.4% of the American population. According to these two studies, twice that percentage of the Iraqi population has been killed in the Iraq war. So why &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;aren&lt;/span&gt;’t these figures more widely reported and accepted?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a  testament to the power of  disinformation when coupled with an incurious press, the 2006 peer-reviewed mortality study publish in The Lancet is still labeled “disputed” in popular reporting. This label seems to derive almost exclusively from a remark made by George Bush after the study originally appeared: "&lt;a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061011-5.html"&gt;the methodology is pretty well discredited&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The survey method used by the study, far from being discredited, is one used now in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;american&lt;/span&gt; political surveys. It has previously been used to give accepted mortality estimates in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;Kosovo&lt;/span&gt;, the Congo and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;Darfur&lt;/span&gt;, among other places.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"While the Lancet numbers are shocking" says &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;Rebecca&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;Goldin&lt;/span&gt; in &lt;a href="http://www.stats.org/stories/the_science_ct_dead_oct17_06.htm"&gt;The Science of Counting the Dead&lt;/a&gt; "the study’s methodology is not. The scientific community is in agreement over the statistical methods used to collect the data and the validity of the conclusions drawn by the researchers conducting the study."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1013/p01s04-woiq.html"&gt;Dan Murphy&lt;/a&gt; of the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;CSM&lt;/span&gt; quotes Richard Garfield,  public health professor at Columbia University on the president‘s remark:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I loved when President Bush said 'their methodology has been pretty well discredited,' That's exactly wrong. There is no discrediting of this methodology. I don't think there's anyone who's been involved in mortality research who thinks there's a better way to do it in unsecured areas. I have never heard of any argument in this field that says there's a better way to do it."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The majority  of the criticism not based on Bush’s unsupported, and in fact false, claim  about methodology seems based on the observation that this &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;study's&lt;/span&gt; numbers don’t jibe with the numbers compiled by &lt;a href="http://www.iraqbodycount.org/"&gt;Iraq Body Count&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;IBC&lt;/span&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The authors address this “problem” in their “&lt;a href="http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf"&gt;The Human Cost of the War in Iraq: A Mortality Study, 2002-2006&lt;/a&gt;”:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;IBC&lt;/span&gt; uses passive surveillance techniques, which depend upon available reports from the news media, in contrast to an active search for dead bodies. This brings about the possibility of gross underestimations. A significant number of deaths are not reported by the media, especially ones that occur in less populated or well known areas. In addition, the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;IBC&lt;/span&gt; methodology is conservative and excludes data that do not meet their set standards. Marc Herold, an economist on the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;IBC&lt;/span&gt; team, believed that the count is&lt;br /&gt;likely too low because thousands of deaths may go unreported due to lack of media coverage.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The same article includes this graphic which plots the deaths recorded by &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17"&gt;IBC&lt;/span&gt; the DOD and the authors' household survey:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_9afDDQVsTHw/Rz28zTQ1VxI/AAAAAAAAACs/GrTpshsnh0c/s1600-h/Survey.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_9afDDQVsTHw/Rz28zTQ1VxI/AAAAAAAAACs/GrTpshsnh0c/s400/Survey.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5133466739802461970" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The authors note: “Although the numbers we estimate through population-based methods are substantially greater than the numbers of deaths counted by the other two, the figure shows that over time the trends are almost identical. This is clear evidence that the three studies have measured the same events, and further reinforces the results of the population based data. This difference in numbers but similarity in trends is typical of the differences between active and passive public health surveillance seen in many conditions.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is important to keep in mind that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;IBC&lt;/span&gt; does &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not &lt;/span&gt;measure civilian deaths in Iraq. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19"&gt;IBC&lt;/span&gt; tracks &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;media reports of civilian deaths&lt;/span&gt; in Iraq. Period. If civilian deaths are under-reported in the media, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20"&gt;IBC's&lt;/span&gt; numbers will not accurately reflect the true number of civilian casualties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is there reason to think under-reporting happens? Absolutely, and not only in environments actively hostile to journalists. One of the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_21"&gt;study's&lt;/span&gt; authors, &lt;a href="http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article2268067.ece"&gt;Les Roberts&lt;/a&gt;, noted in an interview: “When in 2005, a UN survey reported that 90 per cent of violent attacks in Scotland were not recorded by the police, no one, not even the police, disputed this finding.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to &lt;a href="http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2003/12/19/iraq6770.htm"&gt;Human Rights Watch&lt;/a&gt;,  &lt;a href="http://www.hrw.org/wr2k4/3.htm"&gt;Saddam Hussein&lt;/a&gt; may have killed as many as 290,000 people over 24 years. Add to this another million or so killed in the war with Iran to arrive at a figure of 1,290,000 deaths attributable to Saddam Hussein.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22"&gt;OBR&lt;/span&gt; estimates 1,220,580 Iraqis have been killed since the beginning of the war. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23"&gt;Extrapolation&lt;/span&gt;  from the Lancet Study figure of 600,000 in 2006 results in a similar figure. The best evidence, including the only peer-reviewed evidence, suggests that in the space of 5 years the Iraq war has killed as many Iraqis as Saddam did in 24 years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(1) “Mortality after the 2003 invasion of Iraq: a cross-sectional cluster sample survey” was written by Gilbert &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_24"&gt;Burnham&lt;/span&gt;, Riyadh &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_25"&gt;Lafta&lt;/span&gt;, Shannon &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_26"&gt;Doocy&lt;/span&gt; and Les Roberts.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/747714192334127600-8716322493188861575?l=www.theothereveningnews.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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