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Comments for The Spinozist Mormon http://www.spinozist.us Exploratory deployment of two Mormon imperatives—“prove all things; hold fast that which is good,” and “awake and arouse your faculties, even to an experiment upon my words”—from perspectives unfamiliar: secular, scientific, humanistic, cultural (high and low), and maybe even—gasp!—feminist. Mon, 28 May 2012 12:50:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 Comment on Divine Sympathy for Skepticism by Sign supplies http://www.spinozist.us/2006/10/15/divine-sympathy-for-skepticism/christian-y-cardall/#comment-107494 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:41:20 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2006/10/15/divine-sympathy-for-skepticism/christian-y-cardall/#comment-107494 Amazing post! I initially found your blog a week or so ago, and I want to subscribe to your RSS feed. Amazing post! I initially found your blog a week or so ago, and I want to subscribe to your RSS feed.

]]> Comment on The Prophet and His Contemporaries by Digital media http://www.spinozist.us/2006/07/27/the-prophet-and-his-contemporaries/christian-y-cardall/#comment-107493 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:21:44 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2006/07/27/the-prophet-and-his-contemporaries/christian-y-cardall/#comment-107493 Amazing post! I initially found your blog a week or so ago, and I want to subscribe to your RSS feed. Amazing post! I initially found your blog a week or so ago, and I want to subscribe to your RSS feed.

]]> Comment on The Spinozist Mormon Swimsuit Issue by Sentient Meat http://www.spinozist.us/2007/05/01/the-spinozist-mormon-swimsuit-issue/christian-y-cardall/#comment-103186 Sun, 22 May 2011 23:36:37 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2007/05/01/the-spinozist-mormon-swimsuit-issue/christian-y-cardall/#comment-103186 Enjoying your take... On FaceBook group "Bloggernacle Friends", your blog was mentioned and complimented (by Kaimi Wenger) when I raised Spinoza in a more or less off-hand answer to an inane question in an old Sunday School or Priesthood lesson manual. Although I was devout LDS until the age of 24, I did eventually take full leave from that way of life. I can't get away from being culturally Mormon (in my California-raised way), but I'm definitely more Spinozan than Joseph-Smithian now. Enjoying your take… On FaceBook group “Bloggernacle Friends”, your blog was mentioned and complimented (by Kaimi Wenger) when I raised Spinoza in a more or less off-hand answer to an inane question in an old Sunday School or Priesthood lesson manual.

Although I was devout LDS until the age of 24, I did eventually take full leave from that way of life. I can’t get away from being culturally Mormon (in my California-raised way), but I’m definitely more Spinozan than Joseph-Smithian now.

]]> Comment on The Spinozist Mormon Swimsuit Issue by Christian Y. Cardall http://www.spinozist.us/2007/05/01/the-spinozist-mormon-swimsuit-issue/christian-y-cardall/#comment-97457 Thu, 28 May 2009 13:56:50 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2007/05/01/the-spinozist-mormon-swimsuit-issue/christian-y-cardall/#comment-97457 Don't worry, prudish. I am very far from advocating that people become Amish. Don’t worry, prudish. I am very far from advocating that people become Amish.

]]> Comment on The Spinozist Mormon Swimsuit Issue by prudish? http://www.spinozist.us/2007/05/01/the-spinozist-mormon-swimsuit-issue/christian-y-cardall/#comment-97397 Wed, 27 May 2009 21:19:30 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2007/05/01/the-spinozist-mormon-swimsuit-issue/christian-y-cardall/#comment-97397 What are you advocating??? Converting to Amish? What are you advocating??? Converting to Amish?

]]> Comment on “Franchise Religion” by Christian Y. Cardall http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-86608 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:27:02 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-86608 Nice to know I'm remembered. It is likely I haven't said my last. Nice to know I’m remembered. It is likely I haven’t said my last.

]]> Comment on “Franchise Religion” by Bored in Vernal http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-85531 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:05:29 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-85531 Are your ears burning? We've been talking about you under wraps. That's what you get for disappearing for so long! Are your ears burning? We’ve been talking about you under wraps. That’s what you get for disappearing for so long!

]]> Comment on “Franchise Religion” by Christian Y. Cardall http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-82569 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:16:10 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-82569 It's past time, I suppose... Every now and then an idea for a post crosses my mind, but I just can't seem to take the time lately. It’s past time, I suppose… Every now and then an idea for a post crosses my mind, but I just can’t seem to take the time lately.

]]> Comment on “Franchise Religion” by Matt Thurston http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-82295 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:01:52 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-82295 Fellow Plastic Porcupine alum, You still out there, somewhere? I think it is about time for your semi-annual blog post. You've got to have something that's been simmering on the back burner, no? Fellow Plastic Porcupine alum,

You still out there, somewhere? I think it is about time for your semi-annual blog post. You’ve got to have something that’s been simmering on the back burner, no?

]]> Comment on The Spinozist Mormon Swimsuit Issue by donna oshaughnessy http://www.spinozist.us/2007/05/01/the-spinozist-mormon-swimsuit-issue/christian-y-cardall/#comment-71413 Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:11:57 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2007/05/01/the-spinozist-mormon-swimsuit-issue/christian-y-cardall/#comment-71413 OK, I know these suits are THE most attractive, but you do not drown at the weight of them when they are wet! Both my dd and I had thesee in the past. They are comfortable and dry very quickly without clinging to your body. We were going through a phase in our family where we OBSESSED about modesty....to an unhealthy degree. But we liked these suits and they served a purpose allbeit a short lived one! You may want to consider this as a reasonable alternative. I wish they had more styles but alas, we have not seen any. My 16 yo dd likes this and says she thinks it is a nice medium ground. She and I both agree that suits that resemble underwear and bras are not for us......if they were we would save a bundle and just by the fancy undergarments you can now buy at Wally world! I never did understand why ladies around the world would FREAK if someone walked into the room while they were changing and in their unders, yet where LESS than that at the beach? What is it about water that makes us think we can walk around in such little attire. Oh well, maybe women and girls do not get so freaked out these days? Anyway. Here is a link: http://www.christa-taylor.com/c/modest-swimwear/ She has the cutest and TRENDY clothes as well. A bit pricey, but we paid over a hundred bucks for the ones posted! And one other link for modest yet trendy clothing: https://www.funkyfrum.com/default.htm Enjoy a modest yet trendy summer! OK, I know these suits are THE most attractive, but you do not drown at the weight of them when they are wet! Both my dd and I had thesee in the past. They are comfortable and dry very quickly without clinging to your body. We were going through a phase in our family where we OBSESSED about modesty….to an unhealthy degree. But we liked these suits and they served a purpose allbeit a short lived one!

You may want to consider this as a reasonable alternative. I wish they had more styles but alas, we have not seen any. My 16 yo dd likes this and says she thinks it is a nice medium ground. She and I both agree that suits that resemble underwear and bras are not for us……if they were we would save a bundle and just by the fancy undergarments you can now buy at Wally world! I never did understand why ladies around the world would FREAK if someone walked into the room while they were changing and in their unders, yet where LESS than that at the beach? What is it about water that makes us think we can walk around in such little attire. Oh well, maybe women and girls do not get so freaked out these days? Anyway.

Here is a link:
http://www.christa-taylor.com/c/modest-swimwear/
She has the cutest and TRENDY clothes as well. A bit pricey, but we paid over a hundred bucks for the ones posted!

And one other link for modest yet trendy clothing:
https://www.funkyfrum.com/default.htm
Enjoy a modest yet trendy summer!

]]> Comment on “Franchise Religion” by California Star http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-63246 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:36:48 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-63246 A lot of LDS youth learn powerful management skills as early as serving a mission, or being in a quorum leader, or scout patrol leader. Huge leadership skills come in many church callings. This is a huge point - Mormonism teaches powerfuly business management and governance skills. A lot of LDS youth learn powerful management skills as early as serving a mission, or being in a quorum leader, or scout patrol leader.

Huge leadership skills come in many church callings.

This is a huge point - Mormonism teaches powerfuly business management and governance skills.

]]> Comment on The Spinozist Mormon Swimsuit Issue by Rebecca http://www.spinozist.us/2007/05/01/the-spinozist-mormon-swimsuit-issue/christian-y-cardall/#comment-61121 Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:46:21 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2007/05/01/the-spinozist-mormon-swimsuit-issue/christian-y-cardall/#comment-61121 Anyone who swims in these would drown, being dragged down into the water by the excess fabric. The only thing these are good for is protection from the sun. Anyone who swims in these would drown, being dragged down into the water by the excess fabric. The only thing these are good for is protection from the sun.

]]> Comment on Was Elder McConkie visited by the Savior? by Tim http://www.spinozist.us/2006/10/22/was-elder-mcconkie-visited-by-the-savior/christian-y-cardall/#comment-54375 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:53:18 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2006/10/22/was-elder-mcconkie-visited-by-the-savior/christian-y-cardall/#comment-54375 I think it is interesting how LDS people worship Bruce R. Mcconkie. I personally think he was too outspoken and extreme on some occations. Trying to lead people to think he knew more than he really did. Mormon Doctrine is not Scripture and he never was a prophet. Mormon extremist love him because he was like them. He bent the truth more than once to impress people, this is just one such a time. In regards to organic evolution he left out Heber J. Grant and David O. Mckay statements purposely just to justify his own opionions (more recent and athoritative than his beloved relative Joseph F. Smith). So I can only imagine what else he has distorted to prove his point. I think it is interesting how LDS people worship Bruce R. Mcconkie. I personally think he was too outspoken and extreme on some occations. Trying to lead people to think he knew more than he really did. Mormon Doctrine is not Scripture and he never was a prophet. Mormon extremist love him because he was like them. He bent the truth more than once to impress people, this is just one such a time. In regards to organic evolution he left out Heber J. Grant and David O. Mckay statements purposely just to justify his own opionions (more recent and athoritative than his beloved relative Joseph F. Smith). So I can only imagine what else he has distorted to prove his point.

]]> Comment on “Franchise Religion” by Mike W. http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-50096 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:48:07 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-50096 rod A. My comments were to denote a time and a season for numerical growth, but also a season for decentralization and increased local and familial responsibility. The franchise portion of the church has created a culture in Utah that facilitates dependence on the church structure, even though the Brethren are teaching the importance of families being the fundamental unit of the Church instead of relying on the Primary and Sunday School to teach children the gospel. Of course there are areas where the central administration needs to be stronger, but eventually I see the church continuing its decentralizing emphasis demonstrated by Elder Oaks comments. rod A.

My comments were to denote a time and a season for numerical growth, but also a season for decentralization and increased local and familial responsibility. The franchise portion of the church has created a culture in Utah that facilitates dependence on the church structure, even though the Brethren are teaching the importance of families being the fundamental unit of the Church instead of relying on the Primary and Sunday School to teach children the gospel.

Of course there are areas where the central administration needs to be stronger, but eventually I see the church continuing its decentralizing emphasis demonstrated by Elder Oaks comments.

]]> Comment on “Franchise Religion” by rod A. http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-49239 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:51:34 +0000 http://www.spinozist.us/2007/10/22/franchise-religion/christian-y-cardall/#comment-49239 This elevated discussion of lofty principles fails to address certain salient issues: the change since 1974, the "revelation" that Black people are not sub-human in 1978, the subsequent missionary effort in Africa. And how the franchise's hierarchy still works - as evidenced by the rise of Mr. Romney. Perhaps these issues are being saved for another discussion. Meanwhile, a film bringing up these issues - and others - "Desert Bayou" opened in Salt Lake City this weekend. If you have not seen it, I recommend you do so. Then let's discuss Spinoza and the LDS again. RA This elevated discussion of lofty principles fails to address certain salient issues: the change since 1974, the “revelation” that Black people are not sub-human in 1978, the subsequent missionary effort in Africa. And how the franchise’s hierarchy still works - as evidenced by the rise of Mr. Romney. Perhaps these issues are being saved for another discussion.

Meanwhile, a film bringing up these issues - and others - “Desert Bayou” opened in Salt Lake City this weekend. If you have not seen it, I recommend you do so. Then let’s discuss Spinoza and the LDS again.

RA

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