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gd:etag="W/&quot;C0UMSHY-eCp7ImA9WhRUFU0.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3161150143481784864.post-4707448455349203280</id><published>2012-01-25T09:21:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-25T09:21:29.850-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-01-25T09:21:29.850-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Ministry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christian Living" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Church" /><title>Who wants Old People in the Church?</title><content type="html">This week I have another post up over at Christians in Context entitled "&lt;a href="http://www.christiansincontext.com/2012/01/who-wants-old-people-in-church.html"&gt;Who Wants Old People in the Church?&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In our age, it is quite common to view the elderly as passé and unequipped to respond to new trends like development in technology, emerging ideas and shifting values. Youth and vitality are prized against the wisdom that can come with age. It is the cult of youth, and you can find it in the church. The push today is for young pastors to revel in being unbalanced towards Generation X or younger. It is sad when church leaders then set no goals in correcting the imbalances as if older people are poison to the church.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;All things being equal in the Biblical mandates for a church, young people typically choose young people to be around. Even a church meeting the Biblical marks can turn younger people away if too much gray hair is present. But can we be more balanced and see value of every generation? In this post, what I would like to do for the reader is commend to them why elderly are vital in the life of the church today...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Far too many blog posts have been written on the value of church planting and starting afresh with the new, hip and young than have been written about ministering to those closer to the end of life. Older generations are often rightly challenged to accept the younger in church life while few, if any, issue challenges in the reverse. I hope this post offers a small correction to that imbalance...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Young people can benefit from the wisdom age brings. Older individuals can benefit from youthful exuberance and energy. Old generations, just as much as the young, can be powerfully reshaped by God’s Word if the Spirit is at work.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Here are the seven reasons I think a church can benefit from the elderly in its midst:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;(1) Opportunities for mentorship.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;(2) Mutual care for one another in the body.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;(3) Opportunities for younger generations to use their gifts.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;(4) Children treasured as a gift.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;(5) Prayer warriors and encouragers.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;(6) A Bible that is alive.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;(7) Honesty and familiarity with the realities of the end of life.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Read the rest &lt;a href="http://www.christiansincontext.com/2012/01/who-wants-old-people-in-church.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; as I unpack them.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3161150143481784864-4707448455349203280?l=thevoyages.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"We actually think that the Holy Trinity is the most speculative and the least practical doctrine of our theology. But those who are wiser than we, believe it is the least speculative and the most practical. And the one who most believed that was of all the theologians... was the Lord Jesus Christ."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;But also this one along the same lines:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"The reason that most of us as evangelicals have so little time for the early fathers is because we would never be so worked up about Christology as they were and we would never be so worked up about the Trinity as they were. Which means if its true we are the ones verging on heresy." &amp;nbsp;--Sinclair Ferguson&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Why is it today that of all the topics that evangelicals spend so much time discussion, meditating on an policing our Biblical understanding, we give the least amount of time to one of the most central matters of orthodoxy: The Trinity?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Ask most Christians and they can give you Biblical arguments for a wide range of topics and a host of subjects. But when it comes to a simple Biblical explanation and reflection on the Trinity--there is little meditation or consideration into his practicality for all areas of doctrine.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Of course, or doctrinal statement reflect an understanding of the Trinity. In our written confession we articulate the Trinity. But is the average really Trinitarian in a way that shapes their theology, their thinking, their prayers and meditations and their heart?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Even more we love debating positions on alcohol, sex, abortion, and a whole host of topics &lt;i&gt;that are important issues to take stands on&lt;/i&gt;. But we rarely &lt;i&gt;enjoy &lt;/i&gt;talking about the Trinity.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Our are prayers sufficiently Trinitarian? Do we consider our communion to be with the Triune God? Do we see how each of the persons work distinctly in the accomplishment and application of redemption? Do we see together their unity in the work of salvation--so that taken as a whole the work is indivisible?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Is our worship and practical devotion shot through with Trinitarian thinking? Does uniqueness of God's Trinitarian being enrapture our heart?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The Trinity should be like jet propellant to how we think, act and worship as evangelicals--as Christians. It seems to me we are contented in our day to relegate to a statement on the page of our doctrine but necessarily something that courses through our veins. Our thought-life and devotional life should be such that that if pricked, we would bleed the Trinity. This then begs the question: are we really as God-centered and gospel centered as we claim to be?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;How can be better recover this centrality of the Trinity in our doctrine and in our life?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3161150143481784864-5073818603100216034?l=thevoyages.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheVoyages/~4/-IZQB-F2_oU" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://thevoyages.blogspot.com/feeds/5073818603100216034/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3161150143481784864&amp;postID=5073818603100216034" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3161150143481784864/posts/default/5073818603100216034?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3161150143481784864/posts/default/5073818603100216034?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheVoyages/~3/-IZQB-F2_oU/are-we-trinitarian-enough.html" title="Are we Trinitarian enough?" /><author><name>Tim Bertolet</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13059862238106919852</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail" width="22" height="32" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s9X_6q9cHvM/SRxEorWTEzI/AAAAAAAAA2k/CLpH9jI2ekA/S220/Profile.jpg" /></author><thr:total>0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://thevoyages.blogspot.com/2012/01/are-we-trinitarian-enough.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;Ck8EQnwzeyp7ImA9WhRVGUo.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3161150143481784864.post-4588612919913944041</id><published>2012-01-19T06:00:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-19T06:00:03.283-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2012-01-19T06:00:03.283-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Catechism" /><title>A Request: Make this Video</title><content type="html">Anyone out there who is good with video, is creative and a bit artsy? Please make this into a YouTube video:&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What is "the indelible mark of the Shorter Catechism"? We have the following bit of personal experience from a general officer of the United States army. He was in a great western city at a time of intense excitement and violent rioting. The streets were over-run daily by a dangerous crowd. One day he observed approaching him a man of singularly combined calmness and firmness of mien, whose very demeanor inspired confidence. So impressed was he with his bearing amid the surrounding uproar that when he had passed he turned to look back at him, only to find that the stranger at once came back to him, and touching his chest to his forefinger, demanded without preface: "What is the chief end of man?" On receiving the countersign, "Man's chief end is to glorify God and enjoy him forever" --"Ah!" said he, "I knew you were a Shorter Catechism boy by your looks!" "Why, that was just what I was thinking of you," was there joinder.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It is worth while to be a Shorter Catechism boy. They grow up to be men. And better than that, they are exceedingly apt to grow to be men of God. So apt, that we cannot afford to have them miss the chance of it. "Train up a child in the way he should go, and even when he is old he will not depart from it."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;--B.B. Warfield, Selected Shorter Writings, vol 1, p.383-84&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I can see this in my head but don't have the video skills (equipment or money) to produce it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I can imagine this wild west looking town.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Here's how I propose the script go:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Classic western. Guns slingers. A mustached guy in a sombrero popping up behind the watering trough with his six shooter. Some guy on the roof with his long rifle. Smoke rising from the barrel as you hear the crack of the rifle.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Pan to a shot of officer's boots walk aside of a building towards the main street. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. A steady rhythm of walking. Move to a wide shot as the officer steps out from along side the building. He pauses and surveys the dangerous situation--camera angle from behind his head as he turns slightly to survey. With barely a pause he begins again and walks straight out in the street. He turns and proceeds down the center of the street.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;You can see a crowd running along the sides of shops as there is a growing fear and people grab items and run. It is a bit chaotic and riotous. No one ventures into the street except the soldier.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;As the officer walks down the street, off the side the only other man in the street but not in the crowds who are fearfully staying close to the shops, there is a tall strong man. At first glance, he almost looks like an outlaw with his rough exterior and exuding confidence. He walks upright head held high--like a man on a mission.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He passes the officer and their eyes lock. Camera angle from above: as they have passed the outlaw looking fellow turns, moving to the center of the street.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The army officer turns. They lock eyes. Camera angel from under the boots of one of the men as the stair &amp;nbsp;at each other. The impression is that there is about to be a gun fight--the crowds hush. Women pull their children close shielding their eyes from the impending violence.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Close camera angle on the officer and he looks like he is about to get gritty.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Army officer: "what is the chief end of man?"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Quite movement of camera to zoom in on the other man.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Tough-looking fellow: "To glorify God and enjoy him forever"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Army officer, facing becoming light and joyous: "Ah! I knew you were a Shorter Catechism boy by your looks!"&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Tough-looking fellow: "Why, that was just what I was thinking of you,"&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The two men grasp in a firm shake as they grab each other's forearms.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The camera angle pans upward, the words 'The Westminster Shorter Catechism' as a deep announcer voice says: "It is worth while to be a Shorter Catechism boy. They grow up to be men."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3161150143481784864-4588612919913944041?l=thevoyages.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Spend any amount of time in the evangelical world or blogosphere and you have probably run across a sex challenge of some kind. I have seen the challenges come in the 7-day, 10-day, and 30-day varieties. Their basic common trend is: have sex ____ number of days in a row to revitalize your marriage. In the last week or so several prominent pastors have published books on sex further adding to the evangelical preoccupation with the topic.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Sex challenges, along with preaching through Song of Solomons, are often propagated as means by which one can grow the church. After all, since the world cares about sex, it needs to know that God and church care about sex. Sex challenges, the paragon of &amp;nbsp;niche marketing, can miss the need to minister to the least among us. I fail to see how the challenges aid the parentless child brought to church by their grandmother, the widow grieving the loss of a spouse, or the aging who just worry if they can faithfully care for their spouse up to end.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Even more, in our zeal for sex challenges, evangelicals miss the one sex challenge that Scripture actually does give us: the challenge to abstain for prayer. Scripture clearly states: “&lt;i&gt;Do not deprive one another,&amp;nbsp;&lt;u&gt;except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer&lt;/u&gt;; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control&lt;/i&gt;” (1 Corinthians 7:5)”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;When was the last time you heard a pastor challenge a zealous young couple deeply passionate in their intimacy that they might mutually agree to take some time off for a season of prayer together? It makes me wonder: in our zeal to recover Biblical sexuality have we lost the balance of Scripture? What if prayer can do more for your marriage?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Read the rest &lt;a href="http://www.christiansincontext.com/2012/01/sex-challenge-evangelicals-never-give.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. I make that case that I am not against healthy marital intimacy. Instead, it is rather telling though that 1 Corinthians 7:5 and abstaining for prayer is marked missed in today's evangelical world.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3161150143481784864-1031549236190130690?l=thevoyages.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;One thing he noted as a common thread between the godly pastors was that despite all their great differences in education and background they were men of deep and broad prayer lives. Deep as they prayed but broad in the number of people they prayed for over the years.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Here are some of the quotes I jotted down:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"The most difficult thing to get the evangelical church to do is to pray."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"Most of us waste most of our time reading books that are at best third rate. Why? Because they are cutting edge, because they are now, because people are postmodern today. The result: we know all about postmodern people but we are very shallow on understanding the gospel of Jesus Christ."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"The reason that most of us as evangelicals have so little time for the early fathers is because we would never be so worked up about Christology as they were and we would never be so worked up about the Trinity as they were. Which means if its true we are the ones verging on heresy."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"We actually think that the Holy Trinity is the most speculative and the least practical doctrine of our theology. But those who are wiser than we, believe it is the least speculative and the most practical. And the one who most believed that was of all the theologians... was the Lord Jesus Christ."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"A firing of one's devotion in these areas leads to the profoundest applications."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"Often lacking in our ministry is our Christ is not big enough to propel the indicatives in our lives."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"When people say your not practical enough the real problem is probably that you are not being Christocentric enough; not being Trinitarian enough. Because being real practical is not a matter of saying here are three things you need to do, being really practical is so exalting God, the Trinity, the work of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, that people are carried out into practical application."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He spoke generally about the lack of depth in preaching. He noted he often goes to seminaries and preaches and is complemented on what depth he brings but then thinks to himself, he'd dare not tell them he preached that a few weeks ago at his church in an evening service. To me, it was the testimony to how much a pulpit ministry can grow in a church.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He had a few good comments about mentoring and pouring your life into someone as was done to him.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He remarked on his education in Scotland under professors who were unbelievers teaching Hebrew and higher critical theory but not loving the Bible and the God of the Bible. It was a challenge to his seminary audience not to take their education for granted, particularly the joy of learning Hebrew under men who love the God's Word believing it is written in Hebrew.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He also make remarks about catechisms as a 'velcro' or a grid to lay down thoughts on for deeper growth (AMEN! Motivated me to keep working the catechism with my girls).&lt;br /&gt;
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He pointed out that a young man in Calvin's Geneva, with all the Catechizing that was going on in the Reformation, would have a better understanding of doctrine and Scripture than the seminary graduate today.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He also remarked that Romans and John's Gospel are sort of the catechism of the NT--they lay the thought pattern of major categories of doctrine. He remarked that what Romans does for redemption/salvation, John's Gospel does for Christology.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He encouraged Christians to outline books of the Bible and not just read them for 'what they are saying to us' in a sort of autobiographical way.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I particularly appreciated his remarks about seminary professors and pastors. He said something to the effect of 'don't go to be a seminary professor thinking its a step up--it's really a step down from the pastorate.' In fact I once wanted to teach in college or seminary and often thought of it as 'a step up' and more 'noble' particularly because of the scholarship involved. Yet, God's higher offices are in the church.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I loved what he said when he quipped: 'the difference between the seminary professor and a pastor is this: a seminary professor is like a magician. He stands of stage and dazzles people by putting the swords into the box' Then on the struggles of the pastorate: 'the pastor is the guy in the box, having the swords put into him'.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3161150143481784864-2994883967165544558?l=thevoyages.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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