<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:blogger='http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946</id><updated>2024-09-06T15:31:17.133-06:00</updated><category term="deity"/><category term="god"/><category term="manageable"/><category term="our way"/><title type='text'>Thinking As We Should</title><subtitle type='html'>For those who want to think biblically and respond evangelistically.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default?redirect=false'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>19</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-6697862748570331629</id><published>2023-02-23T19:37:00.005-07:00</published><updated>2023-02-23T19:37:47.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;A little plug for Horizon University and going to Bible College.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;https://www.calvarychapelmagazine.org/heartland20221115/&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/6697862748570331629'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/6697862748570331629'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2023/02/a-little-plug-for-horizon-university.html' title=''/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-627950684157661158</id><published>2023-02-21T22:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2023-02-21T22:57:06.716-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;So I have been working through the theological truth of our &quot;union with Christ&quot;, as found in the New Testament. It started quite innocently by our Community Group at church deciding to read a book called &quot;Union With Christ, the way to know and enjoy God&quot; by Rankin Wilbourne. This coincided with teaching a course on Ephesians for Horizon University fall semester 2022. That started me on a path to investigate this idea more fully and has brought me to read several other books on the more academic side of this topic. Let me before I go on ask the question first going through your mind possibly: &quot;should I read this book?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Short answer: Yes. It is worth your time and investment. Remember that it is a non-academic work and written by a gifted preacher. Nonetheless, it is a worthwhile read.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I will, hopefully, over the next several weeks share some of my thoughts on this topic, and encourage your interaction and questions.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here is the list of Current books I have read, or am currently reading.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #2b00fe;&quot;&gt;Union With Christ, &lt;i&gt;The way to know&amp;nbsp; and enjoy God&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt; Rankin Wilbourne (David C. Cook Pub) 2016&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #6aa84f;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Living in Union with Christ, &lt;i&gt;Paul&#39;s Gospel and Christian Moral Identity&lt;/i&gt;,&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;&amp;nbsp;Grant Macaskill (Baker Academic) 2019&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #6aa84f;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Paul and Union with Christ, &lt;i&gt;An Exegetical and Theological Study&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; Constantine R. Campbell (Zondervan) 2012&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: red;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;One with Christ, &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;text-decoration-line: underline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: red;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;an Evangelical Theology of Salvation&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/i&gt; Marcus Peter Johnson (Crossway) 2013&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #2b00fe;&quot;&gt;Blue&lt;/span&gt;: finished reading&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #6aa84f;&quot;&gt;Green:&lt;/span&gt; currently reading&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: red;&quot;&gt;Red&lt;/span&gt;: haven&#39;t cracked it open yet!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Here is the first ponderable quote:&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;....Similarly, it ought to be unthinkable that preachers could ever see their task as simply explaining the passage before them and showing the moral burdens it places on their congregations, without also feeling compelled to point to the one person in whom those responsibilities could be met. And yet, much of our teaching does precisely this. It seeks to make our people &quot;experts in the Scriptures&quot; so that they will be morally prepared to make the right decisions, but that is all they become: not disciples but scribes.&quot;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Grant Macaskill , &quot; Living in Union with Christ&quot; pg. 2&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/627950684157661158'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/627950684157661158'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2023/02/i-have-been-working-through-theological.html' title=''/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-9118195036002046755</id><published>2020-08-26T14:42:00.005-06:00</published><updated>2020-08-26T14:42:57.452-06:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Corona-virus Update:&amp;nbsp;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;As of today&lt;/u&gt;: it is still the number one topic on the news and tv and most conversations!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;As of today&lt;/u&gt;: it is still terribly confusing and actually very contradictory. (mask work/ no they don&#39;t... we now need goggles and shields???? it is contracted by touch???? NO some say... but we are moving toward &quot;you touch it you buy it!&quot; highly fatal/ no worse than normal flu... etc.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;As of today&lt;/u&gt;: it is still a political issue, a health issue, and a personal ethics issue and an ecclesiastical one.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;As of today&lt;/u&gt;: it is still getting more difficult for pastors and church leaders to navigate the troubling waters of divided opinions among church goers, conflicting and contradictory mandates from government agencies, and biblical mandates of honoring God first,&amp;nbsp; and loving people and authorities as a community witness.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;As of today&lt;/u&gt;: God is still in control of all things and His will can not be thwarted.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;May HIS wisdom rule!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/9118195036002046755'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/9118195036002046755'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2020/08/corona-virus-update-as-of-today-it-is.html' title=''/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-7805052420033680963</id><published>2015-04-02T16:43:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2015-04-02T16:43:08.336-06:00</updated><title type='text'>The only &quot;Constant&quot; in life is &quot;Change&quot;.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir=&quot;ltr&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot; trbidi=&quot;on&quot;&gt;
Well as it seems I have thought about writing on the blog again after 2 years of absence. If you happen to follow I will be working on a research project into the &quot;Fear of the Lord&quot; understanding. if you would like to participate with me that would be great. So next Blog will begin to show the references that we find in Scripture for our investigation. If you have something that you have read that would be helpful, please send it along.&lt;/div&gt;
</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/7805052420033680963'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/7805052420033680963'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-only-constant-in-life-is-change.html' title='The only &quot;Constant&quot; in life is &quot;Change&quot;.'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-3833660139188840708</id><published>2012-09-03T23:25:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2012-09-03T23:25:45.375-06:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="deity"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="god"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="manageable"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="our way"/><title type='text'>Let God be God</title><content type='html'>&lt;html&gt;&lt;body&gt;Do you find it somewhat odd how people seem to think that God needs help? That if He needed they would help Him to order the world or in the least they could sure help God know what is best for themselves! &lt;br /&gt;...Or more likely have you found that at times peoples view of God is actually defined by their understanding. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We know that God is infintely and uniquely different than we are... and that truly we only know anything about God because He chose to reveal Himself to us. Step back from the discussion for just a moment and think, &quot;what would you know about God if he chose to remain silent and un-involved. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, because our culture has been saturated with all kinds of &quot;God-talk&quot; over the past several decades we have begun by our own motives and agenda to actually put together our own god. Like someone who takes a jig-saw puzzle and creates for themselves a picture that shows no relationship to the original intended picture. We have become adept at forcing pieces together that never were meant to be together and in the end our cardboard picture is our own creation. As spiritual people both Christians and non-Christians we have formed a god of our own, a god that fits what we want, expect or desire. While this god will almost never take physical form it is a form of idolatry nontheless. Where we run into trouble is when this creation of ours fails to live up to our created expectations, or wishes, or it flat just doesn&#39;t work. Chances are at this point we give up on any form of god; ours or the True One. We shake our heads and proclaim &quot; that we have had it with anything conceptually or real that resembles deity&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;Is this not the hieght of foolishness that Jobs three friends display in their sermons found in the book of Job. If you read well and carefully you will find that they have God figured out and pinned down. But many of their conclusions are in fact in error. In Job 4:7 Eliphaz maintains that God always blesses the righteous and in Job 20:5 Zophar speaks that God always punishes the wicked. However, there are many many instances when God does quite the opposite, at least temporally. Job is in fact a case where the righteous is found to be &quot;afflicted&quot; but not for sin. God just stepped out of Eliphaz&#39;s and Zophar&#39;s proverbial box. Abraham is a case whereby God bestows tremendous wealth on him while he is dancing about from his lie about his wife Sarai. (Gen. 12:10-20) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Devotional interaction: Read Job 4:7 &amp; 20:5 Here you find Job&#39;s 3 &quot;friends&quot; telling him without variation that God punishes the wicked and the innocent are never afflicted. (this world view is not biblical) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now notice God&#39;s view of Jobs 3 friends in Job 38:1-2 and 42:7-9.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice finally that God declares that He will not be confined to the simple games of men. That He is in control of all things and administers them as he wishes. Read Job 38:1-41 List the attributes that God reveals about himself to Job.&lt;br /&gt;1.&lt;br /&gt;2.&lt;br /&gt;3.&lt;br /&gt;4.&lt;br /&gt;5.&lt;br /&gt;6.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;clear: both;&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/3833660139188840708'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/3833660139188840708'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2012/09/let-god-be-god_3.html' title='Let God be God'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-7029229561316355457</id><published>2011-09-22T11:11:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-09-22T11:11:55.621-06:00</updated><title type='text'>On the blog again....</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir=&quot;ltr&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot; trbidi=&quot;on&quot;&gt;Wow it has been almost 3 months since my last post... now wonder no one looks at it much. But here is a quick update. We are now living in Centennial (east of Cherry Creek Resevoir, the worst fishing lake I have ever met...). I have started a new semester at Horizon College Denver teaching Theology. Vicki and I are working and planning on a trip to Africa in November so getting ourselves prepared for that. Life in the city is not so bad (but at times I sure miss the mountains.) Send me&amp;nbsp;a note and let me know what is going on and what I can pray for, for you. By the way, we should be grandparents today... Tara and Ryan are at the hospital as I type this.&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/feeds/7029229561316355457/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/2960293585186148946/7029229561316355457?isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/7029229561316355457'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/7029229561316355457'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/09/on-blog-again.html' title='On the blog again....'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-7294777677667468139</id><published>2011-06-29T16:03:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-06-29T16:20:32.899-06:00</updated><title type='text'>response from World Religions Conference ONLY ONE GOD?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir=&quot;ltr&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot; trbidi=&quot;on&quot;&gt;Last weekend I attended the World Religions Conference at Horizon Christian Fellowship in Denver. It was a good day and well worth the investment. The speakers included Bill Honsberger of&amp;nbsp; Haven Ministry, Dr. Darrell Ferguson of Summit Ministries Int&#39;l, &amp;nbsp;Bill McKeever of Mormonism Research Ministry and Sammy Tanagho a converted Muslim. Each of these men are worth hearing and well educated in their area of expertise. They detailed for us clearly many of the tenents of the particular religion or belief system. Mark these&amp;nbsp;guys to memory.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
However, as I sat there I felt that a basic pre-amble or pre-requisite was missing from the seminar. For in our modern world rift with its post-modern world view and&amp;nbsp;pluralism, what seemed lacking was a discussion of the very nature of&amp;nbsp;divinity, the very basic concepts of any deity that would garner our attention.&amp;nbsp;For any discussion other than atheism, that posits a divine&amp;nbsp;being shouldn&#39;t there be some basic principles that are understood for any discussion? Let me clarify, it is my contention that there can be&amp;nbsp;only&amp;nbsp;ONE GOD. There cannot be 2 COMPETING GODS. This immediately smacks against any post-modernist understanding whereby they hold competing views even contradictory&amp;nbsp;opinions as equally valid, thus making my case...&amp;nbsp;can there truly be any discussion about a supreme being without explaining the basic definition of &quot;SUPREME&quot;. So let me state for the record and for discussion this precept:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&quot;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;GOD&amp;nbsp;BY DEFINITION CAN ONLY BE ONE&quot;.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;In&amp;nbsp;other words you cannot have a god of one religion and a god of another and both exists in reality. We are not choosing whom to worship by vote of one candidate over another. We are asking whether the God we are choosing to &quot;believe in&quot; or &quot;worship&quot; is truly an existent being at all, and secondly worth our devotion or worship? For a moment&amp;nbsp;let me unpack my statement that&amp;nbsp;God can ONLY BE ONE. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;God&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: the discussion of any eternal being, a supreme being, any being outside of our selves that we must recon with.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;by definition&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: here is the critical juncture, to define God as any of you might, as stated above as something &quot;outside of ourselves&quot; must be defined in&amp;nbsp;terms of greatness. For God to be anything like a&amp;nbsp;God we would define, he must be outside of, greater than, different than, older, wiser etc than us.&amp;nbsp;When you begin to define God with those concepts he/she/it becomes to some degree greater than us. Greater begs the question&amp;nbsp;to be qualified as greatest.&amp;nbsp;An Illustration: If someone where to ask you who is&amp;nbsp;a &lt;u&gt;great &lt;/u&gt;something... say Basketball player, the&amp;nbsp;answer wouldn&#39;t really matter much because great is nothing unless compared to a lesser or greater But if someone asked you who was the &lt;u&gt;greatest&lt;/u&gt;...wouldn&#39;t you by natural cause begin to compare attributes of various players until you arrive at an answer you feel is satisfactory? Wouldn&#39;t it seem strange to say well &quot;all basketball players are the greatest&quot;? Or even the following five players are the greatest... Wouldn&#39;t you ask again that they further define their answer to come up with the greatest? Someone might say well Jordan was the greatest shooter and Abdul&amp;nbsp;Jabar the greatest rebounder, but that changes the question. I did not ask which was the greatest shooter or rebounder. I asked for your opinion of the greatest basketball player ever.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
So if we are going to speak of a god, any god,&amp;nbsp;are we not asking which is the greatest? To worship a lesser god knowing that there is a greater, would be foolishness. For sake of argument lets say that there could be more than one god, there are two. We will call them Bill and Bob. In our considerations of these two beings wouldn&#39;t we want to worship the one who is greater? but let&#39;s say that Bob is good at loving and Bill is the most powerful. Which attribute do you consider more worthy of worship and being called the &quot;supreme&quot; being the &quot;weak lover&quot; or the &quot;unloving power&quot;? Scary to think about isn&#39;t it. We desire a God that is greatest at everything and has no limits. Well at least that is what I would worship. More next time.&amp;nbsp; (if there is only one what is He like?) Give me some feed back!&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/feeds/7294777677667468139/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/2960293585186148946/7294777677667468139?isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/7294777677667468139'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/7294777677667468139'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/06/response-from-world-religions.html' title='response from World Religions Conference ONLY ONE GOD?'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-1170862263659450770</id><published>2011-06-14T17:02:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-06-14T17:02:11.400-06:00</updated><title type='text'>could we move that far East?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir=&quot;ltr&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot; trbidi=&quot;on&quot;&gt;Hey Team,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;nbsp;I promised an update. Here it is. We are looking very strongly at the east side of town near Piney Creek. I would never had thought that we would consider moving that far east, but the prices are good and the homes are functional and lovely. Keep praying that we make a good decision that will honor our Lord. Maybe the &quot;eastern peoples&quot; need some ministering too. Hey I will be updating you all soon on a possible trip to Sierra Leone, Africa in November. Save your pennies I will need to raise a lot of money.&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/1170862263659450770'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/1170862263659450770'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/06/could-we-move-that-far-east.html' title='could we move that far East?'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-4876898127872194841</id><published>2011-06-13T09:50:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-06-13T09:50:35.084-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Absent again?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir=&quot;ltr&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot; trbidi=&quot;on&quot;&gt;Hey team,&lt;br /&gt;
Just a quick note about where I have been. I have been to Kansas and back helping my mother-in-law move to Colorado. Sorry I have not posted&amp;nbsp;recently. Hopefully, I will be able to a get back at it. Hey we are getting close to making a decision on a house to buy in Denver sooo Please PRAY. more tomorrow&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/feeds/4876898127872194841/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/2960293585186148946/4876898127872194841?isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/4876898127872194841'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/4876898127872194841'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/06/absent-again.html' title='Absent again?'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-3086297643062410386</id><published>2011-05-09T09:48:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-05-09T09:48:05.928-06:00</updated><title type='text'>two types of &quot;evil, bad, or suffering&quot;</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir=&quot;ltr&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot; trbidi=&quot;on&quot;&gt;When we discuss the problem of evil, we must determine what kind of evil are we talking about. For there is one kind of evil we call &quot;&lt;u&gt;moral evil&lt;/u&gt;&quot; in that it comes from the moral choice of human beings usually upon other human beings, but may also be exercised upon plants animals and the natural world. &lt;u&gt;Moral evil&lt;/u&gt; then is from humans toward things or people outside of themselves, and at times against themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
There is a second kind of evil as well we call &quot;&lt;u&gt;natural evil&quot;&lt;/u&gt; It&amp;nbsp;is that suffering or evil that is not prompted by the will moral choice of humans but comes as a consequence of living on a broken earth. This would include all kinds of sicknesses, natural disasters (e.g. hurricanes, tsunamis etc) accidents etc. These &quot;troubles&quot; find no source in the moral choice of mankind but in random external events. They may find their source in the course of weather patterns. They may&amp;nbsp; find their source in a stronger being (God) acting upon this finite world. The distinction is that you cannot trace the end of the matter to some willful act of man.&lt;br /&gt;
Now when we discuss the problem of evil and our all powerful, loving God we will discuss it from these two different angles.&lt;br /&gt;
As we have been looking at the life of Job and the Book of Job, we will need to first of all determine into which of these categories the problem or troubles that Job faces are suffering from the Moral or Natural category. I vie for the later. What about you? &lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/feeds/3086297643062410386/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/2960293585186148946/3086297643062410386?isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/3086297643062410386'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/3086297643062410386'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/05/two-types-of-evil-bad-or-suffering.html' title='two types of &quot;evil, bad, or suffering&quot;'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-6967705681041082140</id><published>2011-05-05T10:17:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2011-05-05T10:27:59.708-06:00</updated><title type='text'>some important definitions</title><content type='html'>As we tackle the problem of evil and suffering we will need to define some terms. Namely because they are often confused categories:&lt;br /&gt;
EVIL:&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoBodyText3&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 18pt; mso-level-font-family: Symbol; mso-level-number-format: bullet; mso-level-size: 10.0pt; mso-level-text: ·; mso-pagination: none; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; direction: ltr; font-family: Symbol; font-size: 10pt; language: X-NONE; unicode-bidi: embed;&quot;&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;width: 13.5pt;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;language: EN; mso-ansi-language: EN;&quot;&gt;The absence of what ought to be…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoBodyText3&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 18pt; mso-level-font-family: Symbol; mso-level-number-format: bullet; mso-level-size: 10.0pt; mso-level-text: ·; mso-pagination: none; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; direction: ltr; font-family: Symbol; font-size: 10pt; language: X-NONE; unicode-bidi: embed;&quot;&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;width: 13.5pt;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;language: EN; mso-ansi-language: EN;&quot;&gt;It is a lack in good things…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoBodyText3&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 18pt; mso-level-font-family: Symbol; mso-level-number-format: bullet; mso-level-size: 10.0pt; mso-level-text: ·; mso-pagination: none; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; direction: ltr; font-family: Symbol; font-size: 10pt; language: X-NONE; unicode-bidi: embed;&quot;&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;width: 13.5pt;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;language: EN; mso-ansi-language: EN;&quot;&gt;“It is in the will, the choice, the intent, the movement of the soul, which puts a wrong order into the physical world of things and acts…” Handbook of Christian Apologetics, pg 132&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoBodyText3&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 18pt; mso-level-font-family: Symbol; mso-level-number-format: bullet; mso-level-size: 10.0pt; mso-level-text: ·; mso-pagination: none; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;language: EN; mso-ansi-language: EN;&quot;&gt;TYPES OF EVIL:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoBodyText3&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 18pt; mso-level-font-family: Symbol; mso-level-number-format: bullet; mso-level-size: 10.0pt; mso-level-text: ·; mso-pagination: none; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;language: EN; mso-ansi-language: EN;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;language: EN; mso-ansi-language: EN;&quot;&gt;For a proper understanding of evil we must make a distinction between types of evil. .&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoBodyText3&quot; style=&quot;mso-pagination: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;language: EN; mso-ansi-language: EN;&quot;&gt;“&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoBodyText3&quot; style=&quot;mso-pagination: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;language: EN; mso-ansi-language: EN;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Franklin Gothic Book&amp;quot;; font-style: italic; language: EN; mso-ansi-language: EN;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;the evil we are not&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;language: EN; mso-ansi-language: EN;&quot;&gt;.” Handbook of Christian Apologetics, pg .132&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoBodyText3&quot; style=&quot;mso-pagination: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;language: EN; mso-ansi-language: EN;&quot;&gt;SUFFERING: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;language: EN; mso-ansi-language: EN;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;list-style-type: decimal;&quot;&gt;Experience or be subjected to (something bad or unpleasant) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;std&quot; style=&quot;color: #767676; list-style-image: none; list-style-type: none; padding-left: 20px;&quot;&gt;- he&#39;d &lt;strong&gt;suffered&lt;/strong&gt; intense pain&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;std&quot; style=&quot;color: #767676; list-style-image: none; list-style-type: none; padding-left: 20px;&quot;&gt;- he&#39;d &lt;strong&gt;suffered&lt;/strong&gt; a great deal since his arrest&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;list-style-type: decimal;&quot;&gt;Be affected by or subject to (an illness or ailment) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;std&quot; style=&quot;color: #767676; list-style-image: none; list-style-type: none; padding-left: 20px;&quot;&gt;- his daughter &lt;strong&gt;suffered&lt;/strong&gt; from agoraphobia&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;std&quot; style=&quot;color: #767676; list-style-image: none; list-style-type: none; padding-left: 20px;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black;&quot;&gt;Become or appear worse in quality&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;std&quot; style=&quot;color: #767676; list-style-image: none; list-style-type: none; padding-left: 20px;&quot;&gt;-his relationship with Anne did &lt;strong&gt;suffer&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;list-style-type: decimal;&quot;&gt;Undergo martyrdom or execution &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;list-style-type: decimal;&quot;&gt;Tolerate &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;std&quot; style=&quot;color: #767676; list-style-image: none; list-style-type: none; padding-left: 20px;&quot;&gt;- France will no longer &lt;strong&gt;suffer&lt;/strong&gt; the existing government&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;std&quot; style=&quot;padding-left: 20px;&quot;&gt;Allow (someone) to do something &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;std&quot; style=&quot;color: #767676; list-style-image: none; list-style-type: none; padding-left: 20px;&quot;&gt;- my conscience would not &lt;strong&gt;suffer&lt;/strong&gt; me to accept any more&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;std&quot; style=&quot;color: #767676; list-style-image: none; list-style-type: none; padding-left: 20px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;std&quot; style=&quot;color: #767676; list-style-image: none; list-style-type: none; padding-left: 20px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;std&quot; style=&quot;color: #767676; list-style-image: none; list-style-type: none; padding-left: 20px;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black;&quot;&gt;Tomorrow we will discuss the 2 kinds of evil (as mentioned above) MORAL &amp;amp; NATURAL.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/feeds/6967705681041082140/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/2960293585186148946/6967705681041082140?isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/6967705681041082140'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/6967705681041082140'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/05/some-imprtant-definitions.html' title='some important definitions'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-6109822194427263464</id><published>2011-05-03T11:34:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-05-03T11:34:54.535-06:00</updated><title type='text'>So how do we view the idea of Suffering? (part 1)</title><content type='html'>Let me begin by asking you the same question that I have to ask myself. How do I view the world in which I live? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;(1) Is it a world where suffering should not exist&amp;nbsp;and if it does; it is out of order... ( a perfect world gone bad)?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;(2) Or do I live in a world in which suffering and evil exists normally and when it doesn&#39;t that seems out of order (a bad world experiencing temporary good) ?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Why is this question necessary? Because it establishes &lt;u&gt;our worldview&lt;/u&gt; and how we will not only approach the problem of suffering and evil but &lt;u&gt;how we will interpret the data&lt;/u&gt;. I am convinced that those of us who have been raised in the &quot;secure west&#39; will approach the question from the first position. Because of faith in progress, medicine, military&amp;nbsp;and money we have been promised that eventually we can rid ourselves of all injustices, suffering and evil. While I can only speculate on this point I think that parts of the world racked with suffering, hunger, evil and pain might approach the problem from the second position stated above. Our presuppositions on this are very important. It determines how we&amp;nbsp;state the question of suffering and evil. It determines how we go about solving it. &lt;br /&gt;
How would you think that Job views the world? would he choose option 1 or 2 above? Because he was so wealthy, satisfied etc. wouldn&#39;t he naturally view it from view 1? Does this effect the way you interpret this ancient book? &lt;br /&gt;
Let me give you two possible hints that&amp;nbsp;Job may have viewed the world from&amp;nbsp;position 2, (contrary to his station in life.) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Job 1:5 &lt;em&gt;&quot;Perhaps my sons have sinned and cursed God...&quot;&lt;/em&gt; Here Job seems to very realistic about the nature of sin in the world and in the human heart. His &quot;perfect&quot; world did not shield him or his children from sinful acts or destruction.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Job 1:21 &quot;&lt;em&gt;Naked I came from my mothers womb and naked I shall return there.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; Naked is not a biological or physical description only here. It also refers to how pitiful is our basic station in life is at the beginning and ending of life. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Enough to chew on for one day. Tomorrow we will define some terms because I have already made too many assumptions with the terms used.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;
Tell your friends to visit that blog and let&#39;s see what they think!&lt;br /&gt;
Scott</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/feeds/6109822194427263464/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/2960293585186148946/6109822194427263464?isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/6109822194427263464'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/6109822194427263464'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/05/so-how-do-we-view-idea-of-suffering.html' title='So how do we view the idea of Suffering? (part 1)'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-8325445474713248521</id><published>2011-05-02T10:44:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2023-02-21T22:27:14.136-07:00</updated><title type='text'>thinking about suffering</title><content type='html'>As we engage the story of Job and the issue of suffering, I heard a remarkable statement by the worship leader and musical artist at church yesterday. The artist name is Danny Oertli. His story is quite amazing and touching. He wrote a song that encourages his son Jack to embrace struggles and with his faith work through them. Is this normal? Well, probably not normal and yet extremely biblical and deeply spiritual. The song he wrote for his young son is called &quot;Thought You Should Know&quot; from his &quot;Nothing Left To Prove&quot; album. Normally&amp;nbsp;we don&#39;t expect contemporary Christian artists to be the source of deep theological &quot;stuff&quot; but Danny breaks that mold. Does he begin to understand James words &quot;to count it all joy my brethren, when you encounter various trials&quot; (Ja. 1:2)?&amp;nbsp; Does our dear friend Job understand something of this as well, when he states &quot;the Lord gives and the Lord takes away, blessed be the name of the Lord&quot;? (Job 1:21) &lt;br /&gt;
So, I am learning. I like so many others have struggled to embrace the difficulties of life and question why I have had to face tough things. But alas, God is patient and I am not.&amp;nbsp; By the way f you want to see Danny&#39;s website it is &lt;span class=&quot;f&quot;&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #0e774a;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dannyoertli.com/&quot;&gt;www.&lt;b&gt;dannyoertli&lt;/b&gt;.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;f&quot;&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #0e774a;&quot;&gt;Bless you all and keep on keeping on.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/feeds/8325445474713248521/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/2960293585186148946/8325445474713248521?isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/8325445474713248521'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/8325445474713248521'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/05/thinking-about-suffering.html' title='thinking about suffering'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-1920254459648601351</id><published>2011-04-25T10:29:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-04-25T10:29:33.422-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Sorry I have been out of touch.</title><content type='html'>Wow what a couple of months it has been. I am sorry that I have not been current on my blog.&amp;nbsp;Hopefully it will get better some. Since my last post the following has happened:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;I had surgery&amp;nbsp;immediately below my eye for skin cancer. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;We installed new counter tops in our kitchen.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;We listed our house for sale.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;We visited Mexico for a bit of R &amp;amp; R.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Our middle daughter Kelli got married.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I traveled to Wichita for a two day exploration trip.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I got the motorcycle into the garage for its spring cleanup.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Celebrated Easter, and have two visits by family from Kansas.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;This is on top of my normal tasks of teaching at, and promoting the College and sending out 100 support letters to friends and family. &lt;br /&gt;
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But now it&#39;s time to get back to the blog at&amp;nbsp;hand and where were we?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/1920254459648601351'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/1920254459648601351'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/04/sorry-i-have-been-out-of-touch.html' title='Sorry I have been out of touch.'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-969950759780127746</id><published>2011-02-28T13:31:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-03-03T15:19:28.999-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Angels in Heaven, sure but Satan?</title><content type='html'>This passage for sure has caused much herat burn for commentators and Bible scholars. Was this the Satan of the Garden and Revelation 12:10? How is satan allowed into the presence of God. Does he accuse others even ourselves just as he is accusing Job? Does he have the power to afflict us as he does with Job?&amp;nbsp; Why does the Hebrew use the definite article before his name (making it &quot;the Satan&quot;)? Is he literal of figurative? Why do the angels come to present themselves before God, does he not know what they are doing?&lt;br /&gt;
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Beyond some simple answers that are mostly wanting we need to understand several key principles. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;All things are before God&#39;s presence, while we maintain that nothing evil has&amp;nbsp;a permanent presence or existence before GOd we cannot say that no evil whatsoever has ever come before God.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;We know that angels present themsleves before God to do His bidding, it also seems clear that the fallen ones or the chief fallen one has some presence in court before God as attested to by this passage a nd others like Luke 22:3&amp;nbsp;and Rev. 12:10.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Many theologians&amp;nbsp; maintain that while Satan was cast from heaven prior to the fall of man in Gen. 6; he will be permanently cast from God&#39;s presence and the presence of mankind at the final judgement in Revelation.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;All in all, the key to understanding this section of Job is to realize that there is an accuser of mankind before God and that accuser is the liar and destroyer Satan and his minions. He thoughrougly enjoys this role and task. Anything to disrupt and destroy the work of God at any point in the evangelsitic process (Matt. 13:36; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; 2 Thess. 2 :8). Christians should never be found assisting the work of Satan and become one anothers &quot;accuser&quot;!&lt;br /&gt;
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So how do we respond to this message?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Believe and know that Satan is at work against us, but he is impotent when we are strong in Christ.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Realize that like any penal act it can be a deterrant as well. Let&#39;s not give Satan opportunity to prove us sinful without making him lie!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prayer keeps us presenting oursleves before the LORD as the angels do. Let&#39;s enter into His presence with confidence and boldness becuase we have our best to present.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remember that we are eternally grateful that Christ is our advocate, presenting our innocence through Himself.&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Mat_13:25&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Mat_13:28&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;2Co_2:17&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;2Co_11:3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;2Co_11:13-15&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Eph_2:2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Eph_6:11-12&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;2Th_2:8-11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;1Pe_5:8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Rev_12:9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Rev_13:14&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Rev_19:20&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Rev_20:2-3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: green; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Rev_20:7-10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/969950759780127746'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/969950759780127746'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/02/angels-in-heaven-sure-but-satan.html' title='Angels in Heaven, sure but Satan?'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-1959263604260001851</id><published>2011-02-24T12:08:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-02-28T13:27:43.267-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Money and the Cause of Christ</title><content type='html'>OK, so we all agree that money is more fun to have than to not have. If you disagree with this statement I would like to hear&amp;nbsp;about life from under your rock. Just like having a car is more fun than not having one (even though maybe a horse is fun to a degree, it wears thin in places... isn&#39;t that why we chose to invent a iron one?)&amp;nbsp;Anyway, we live in a world in which money is integral, necessary and many times critical. But do necessary things need to become things of worship? Money is a tool and thus&amp;nbsp;a means to an end; not&amp;nbsp;the end in itself. So we ask ourselves; &quot;to what (end) do we&amp;nbsp;expect the (means of) money to accomplish: wealth? security? &amp;nbsp;What will the tool called money accomplish in my hands? If we continually ask this question it will be amazing how we begin to change our views of money. Can&amp;nbsp; money really accomplish the end we desire. Does money truly create security? Does money really make me a better person by the volume of it? &lt;br /&gt;
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Notice that Job, in our ongoing study here, uses much of his money to keep his family connected with God. To what end does Job need to offer sacrifices for his &quot;party-ing&quot; children, is a subject of debate. Is this a act of a father trying to cover the overt sins of his children who are squandering their lives? Or is it a father that takes a very active, maybe even pro-active, role in the spiritual guidance of his children? Here is how it reads:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue;&quot;&gt;Job 1:5&lt;br /&gt;
When a period of feasting had run its course, Job would send and have them purified. Early in the morning he would sacrifice a burnt offering for each of them, thinking, &quot;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Perhaps&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.&quot; This was Job&#39;s regular custom.&lt;br /&gt;
NIV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black;&quot;&gt;I see things generally from the positive view point and I think that Job is hedging his bets. Notice the phrase &quot;perhaps&quot;. (in the NASB&amp;nbsp;and NIV) &quot;it may be&quot; ( in the ESV and KJV). Was Job being very careful and proactive.&amp;nbsp;Or was he only ignorant and didn&#39;t want to know.&amp;nbsp;Was he functioning as the &quot;priest&quot; of his home? For the sake of argument let&#39;s say he is functioning as the priest of his home. Is he teaching us that the end for which he uses some of his money is to promote or prompt the spiritual life of his kids? Is he using money to help his kids walk closer to God? Wow, when was the last time we saw any of our money being used for this end or purpose?&amp;nbsp;How might that look?&amp;nbsp;Well obviously tithing at our local church assembly might be an indirect way. How about a more direct way?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black;&quot;&gt;What if you used your money to take your family on a missions trip. What if you funded the whole thing without sending support letters to friends and family?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Something to &quot;think&amp;nbsp;as we should!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: red;&quot;&gt;Lord God, we bow&amp;nbsp;before&amp;nbsp;you as the giver of all gifts and tools. One of those tools you give to us is money. Forgive us when we use this tool to support our own desires and ends. Help us to look beyond the world of our need to the idea of money used for your glory. Help us to seek after your call to us that we may have tuned out. We love you and&amp;nbsp;desire to honor you even now with our money. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black;&quot;&gt;Send me your thoughts and comments!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/1959263604260001851'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/1959263604260001851'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/02/money-and-cause-of-christ.html' title='Money and the Cause of Christ'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-3113570763110271383</id><published>2011-02-17T10:03:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-02-17T10:05:00.865-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Money and Integrity: uncommon partners</title><content type='html'>Morning to all. &lt;br /&gt;
I find this morning a fascinating verse. In verse 2 of Job 1 we hear how wealthy Job was. A family of 10 kids (7 sons 3 daughters) and a phenomenal amount of livestock. 7000 sheep. 3000 camels 500 oxen for yokes, 500 donkeys and a &quot;large number&quot; number of servants. (Makes me wonder if there were so many it was hard to count the servants.) I guess you can count sheep easier than servants, especially if you have insomnia. When verse 3 states that he was the greatest man in all the East it is in reference to his wealth and station in life. I do not think it is a stretch to say that he was the Bill Gates of his day. Nonetheless he was as we say: &quot;Healthy, Wealthy and Wise&quot;. The Hebrew word used for great can refer to great &lt;em&gt;in any sense&lt;/em&gt; (wealth, character, strength etc.). Could it be that for the sake of the drama of the beginning of Job, he was great in all respects. It seems he is great in character, piety and wealth. Now realize that Scripture rarely couples wealth and piety, riches and character. It is more prone to describe the rich as lacking significantly in integrity. Notice, &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Proverbs 3:9-10&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Solomon&#39;s understanding that if wealth is not used for God&#39;s honor, it is soon to vanish.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Proverbs 11:4&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Wealth cannot save anyone in the day of Wrath or Judgement. Righteousness does however. (&lt;em&gt;In Hebrew poetry which uses &lt;u&gt;parallelism,&lt;/u&gt; this can be seen as an &lt;u&gt;antithetical parallel&lt;/u&gt;. The first is the opposite of the second&lt;/em&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;
Of great importance to note is &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Ecclesiastes 5:8-20&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; where Solomon the richest man of his day betrays the benefit of riches and sees the great trouble it brings. Read this passage and commit it to memory, it will serve us all well. &lt;br /&gt;
So here we find a man with the perfect set-up. He is righteous (has integrity) and wealth. Not many like him in history. What becomes, will test and try every aspect of his life.&lt;br /&gt;
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How do I view riches: Well for me, it is the means to getting what I want. Unfortunately, I have had a lust for wealth much of my life. It is a secret passion and desire. I find it resident in me at significant times. How about you? But see for me, wealth is not for the having, but for the spending. In there lies the deception. Let me explain. For example; the wealth affords me the chance to buy nice cars, and anybody that knows me, knows I like anything with a MOTOR and shiny paint. Car, boat, plane, motorcycle etc. Oh boy, what I could buy if I had MONEY! So God reminds me, &lt;span style=&quot;color: teal; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: teal; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue;&quot;&gt;The more you have, the more everyone expects from you. Your money won&#39;t do you any good--others will just spend it for you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue;&quot;&gt;(Ecc 5:11)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Instead he reminds me that money is to be used for HIS HONOR. Tomorrow we will explore that idea in depth.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/3113570763110271383'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/3113570763110271383'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/02/morning-to-all.html' title='Money and Integrity: uncommon partners'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-2722501665537484967</id><published>2011-02-09T23:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-02-09T23:01:31.922-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Integrity of the Whole</title><content type='html'>So yesterday we looked at God&#39;s description of Job. A man of blameless character, at least in comparison to all else who lived. Helpful&amp;nbsp; is this statement from the Expositors Commentary: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue;&quot;&gt;He was not sinless, for nobody can claim that distinction, but he was complete and mature in character and &quot;straight&quot; in conduct. The word translated &quot;perfect&quot; is related to &quot;integrity,&quot; another important word in Job (2:3,9; 27:5; 31:6). People with integrity are whole persons, without hypocrisy or duplicity. In the face of his friends&#39; accusations and God&#39;s silence, Job maintained his integrity, and the Lord ultimately vindicated him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The author of Job was making it quite clear that compared to those around Job, he was above the rest. Notice these phrases:&lt;br /&gt;
Job 1:3&lt;br /&gt;
was the greatest of all the people of the east. &lt;br /&gt;
ESV&lt;br /&gt;
Job 1:8&lt;br /&gt;
that there is none like him on the earth&lt;br /&gt;
ESV&lt;br /&gt;
The Book of Job is about a man who is being tested not about his faith or integrity but about his love for God. As we will see in days to come the test of Job is more about Satan&#39;s accusation against God then about Job&#39;s faith.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;nbsp;For today let&#39;s revisit the quote from Hendrickson and the Expositors Commentary. Do you agree with his definition of someone of integrity? How would you describe integrity? Here are some definitions:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;an undivided or unbroken completeness or totality with nothing wanting; &quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;moral soundness; &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/url?q=http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn%3Fs%3Dintegrity&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=en1TTZiXDoXGsAOH5KDABA&amp;amp;ved=0CBcQpAMoAA&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNGW8OZvnzSRR0XCHErBfIjmQOd5KA&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Integrity as a concept has to do with perceived consistency of actions, values, methods, measures, principles, expectations and outcome. People use integrity as a holistic concept, judging the integrity of systems in terms of those systems&#39; ability to achieve their own goals (if any). ...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/url?q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=en1TTZiXDoXGsAOH5KDABA&amp;amp;ved=0CBgQpAMoAQ&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNEopQou7J0uENPfhJAmoFp97CieGg&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Integrity then involves the totality of who we are, not just parts of us. In all areas, in all demonstrations we are to have integrity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Dear Heavenly Father, We know that&amp;nbsp;only you are complete and full of integrity in all that you are. We are parts and pieces of what we were to be when you first created mankind in&amp;nbsp;the Garden. Please help us to be put back together again, for your glory and our sakes. Amen.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/2722501665537484967'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/2722501665537484967'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/02/integrity-of-whole.html' title='Integrity of the Whole'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2960293585186148946.post-6502338584229313019</id><published>2011-02-07T17:07:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-02-07T17:07:44.217-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Feb. 8 2011</title><content type='html'>Welcome to my blog and daily devotional site. I hope that you will enjoy reading and participating with us as we venture into new areas of ministry and faith. For the next several days we will be looking at two major sections of Scripture. The Old Testament book of JOB and the New Testament book of Hebrews. I encourage you to read them through, a couple of times during the next month. &lt;span style=&quot;color: teal; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: teal; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: teal; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: teal; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;(Job 1:1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt; &quot;Many years ago, a man named Job lived in the land of Uz. He was a truly good person, who respected God and refused to do evil.&quot; (Contemporary English Version)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black;&quot;&gt;The Book of Job starts in an unusual manner and with a very unique statement regarding&amp;nbsp;the man Job. The unusual manner is with the pithy statement that sounds like a children&#39;s book, more than a&amp;nbsp;sacred text. Kind of like the ol&#39; &quot;A long time ago, in a far away land...&quot;. But there is very little that is childish about&amp;nbsp;this&amp;nbsp;book and its introduction. We will be faced with a variety of perplexing and&amp;nbsp;striking&amp;nbsp;statements throughout the pages. The first is the unique&amp;nbsp;statement that,&amp;nbsp;&quot;Job was a truly&amp;nbsp;good person, who refused to do evil.&quot;&amp;nbsp;Can that be truly said of any of us? Is he without sin? With those questions I encourage you to begin to interact with me on this blog. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;color: black;&quot;&gt;In the mean time, let&#39;s spend an intimate moment with God on this verse. I see a couple of things that encourage my heart and hopefully yours.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black;&quot;&gt;It matters to God about the &quot;where&quot; and &quot;when&quot; and &quot;who&quot; of us. It matters enough that we see Him including this information about Job in the first verse of the book;&amp;nbsp;which actually has more to do with who God is than, who Job is! (More on that later)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black;&quot;&gt;Secondly, I find it interesting to notice that God notices the &quot;righteousness and goodness&quot; (whatever degree that is a reality) of Job and He is not afraid to state it outright. Have you ever thought that God was keeping track of your &quot;goodness&quot; rather than your &quot;badness&quot;. If God keeps lists at all, what kind do you think He keeps?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;&quot;&gt;Dear Heavenly Father, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: black; font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;&quot;&gt;I must admit that initially I&amp;nbsp;would be very afraid, if you kept lists. But I am finding that maybe you are not at all like me, and when you keep lists, you keep them for the good and better of someone rather than the worst. After all, if you love us, should it surprise us that you remember the things in us that you created for your delight? I am humbled and thankful for your loving character. Amen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/feeds/6502338584229313019/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/2960293585186148946/6502338584229313019?isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/6502338584229313019'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2960293585186148946/posts/default/6502338584229313019'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinkingasweshould.blogspot.com/2011/02/feb-8-2011.html' title='Feb. 8 2011'/><author><name>Rev. Scott A. McCall</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11572510901917191870</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7nLGz3mfAbHwE5YWGVg8G4CLQTv3ukDHFQHtmX6QeW2QX-08idpw2RXh8illRphvANcApgjsFsmRUkJFiSsbOp8nDX9N8SYFfWr_s2070RpK1GLvgEn1DOFY3cwVXgQ-AkR5Br5U_khrqkhqBUaPo_r--doI-0HYGKcmIWckuB_Q/s220/DSC01951%20(4).JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>