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		<title>Wallowing in darkness is a form of self-righteousness</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ed Trefzger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erik Raymond has a great post today about what happens when we as believers wallow in our own sinfulness. The quote from Spurgeon is priceless. Read more here: The (potential) Stinger in the Tail of All that Sin Talk &#124; Ordinary Pastor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik Raymond has a great post today about what happens when we as believers wallow in our own sinfulness. The quote from Spurgeon is priceless. Read more here: <a href="http://www.ordinarypastor.com/?p=9695">The (potential) Stinger in the Tail of All that Sin Talk | Ordinary Pastor</a>.</p>
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		<title>Not the time for NCT to build fences</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ed Trefzger</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Biblical Theology]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[As one of many in New Covenant Theology circles who is trying to push the discussion forward while seeing a stronger Biblical Theology/Redemptive History case made for what we believe to be the best understanding of Scripture, it grieves me to see those who advocate NCT — even some of its pioneers — aim to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-514" title="sheep-enet-closeup" src="http://www.trefzger.org/wp-content/uploads/sheep-enet-closeup.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="200" />As one of many in New Covenant Theology circles who is trying to push the discussion forward while seeing a stronger Biblical Theology/Redemptive History case made for what we believe to be the best understanding of Scripture, it grieves me to see those who advocate NCT — even some of its pioneers — aim to shut down the discussion, ostracize brothers, or toss people out of the movement.</p>
<p>On one hand, there are those in what has been called the “Classic NCT” camp who would like to shut down any discussion of what is the nature of the Law of Christ. So-called Classic NCT wants to find a new set of statutes in the teachings of Jesus and the apostles. I’m among those who would respond that Jesus did not come to die for sin, rise from the grave and ascend to the Father only to bind people to a more stringent law, but that He came as the One with all authority to free us to walk in the light, live without fear, and love without limit. Christ is the enfleshment of the law.</p>
<p>Furthermore, He gave us His Spirit to dwell in us as the fulfillment of <cite class="bibleref" title="Jeremiah 31:33" style="display: none;"></cite><a id="tippy_tip1327432310_7054" href="http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Jeremiah%2031.33" class="tippy_link" title="Jeremiah 31:33" onmouseover="Tippy.loadTipInfo('&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;  data=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F24031033&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F24031033&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot; /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p24031033.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v24031033-1&quot;&gt;33&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;', 0, 0, 'tippy_tip1327432310_7054', event);" onmouseout="Tippy.fadeTippyOut();">Jeremiah 31:33</a>ff and <cite class="bibleref" title="Ezekiel 36:25" style="display: none;"></cite><a id="tippy_tip1327432310_4606" href="http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Ezekiel%2036.25" class="tippy_link" title="Ezekiel 36:25" onmouseover="Tippy.loadTipInfo('&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot;  data=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F26036025&quot; width=&quot;40&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.esvapi.org/assets/play.swf?myUrl=mm%2F26036025&quot; /&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;wmode&quot; value=&quot;transparent&quot; /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p26036025.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v26036025-1&quot;&gt;25&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;', 0, 0, 'tippy_tip1327432310_4606', event);" onmouseout="Tippy.fadeTippyOut();">Ezekiel 36:25</a>ff; the Holy Spirit is Himself the promise fulfilled.</p>
<p>(Pastor Todd Braye has summarized this argument well in a recent outline at <a href="http://christmycovenant.com/" target="_blank">Christ My Covenant</a>, <a href="http://christmycovenant.com/wordpress/?p=1789" target="_blank">Five Reasons Why I Object to Classic NCT’s Definition of the Law of Christ</a>.)</p>
<p>I’m convinced that this understanding lays great groundwork for the pioneering thought and study that has preceded us. Unfortunately, instead of opening up dialog, it has caused those who advocate this understanding to be made targets by some of those who champion so-called Classic NCT.</p>
<p>Certainly discussion and critique of any view should be welcomed. But putting people outside of the camp should not be tolerated.</p>
<p>Similarly, another assault has been made — unnecessarily — on those in NCT who hold to a premillennial view, suggesting that they should not be part of NCT. I’m not a premillennarian myself, but I see no need to push people out of the discussion who are.</p>
<p>This movement is too new and its foundations still are being constructed. It is sinful to ostracize those working to grow the movement and build its foundations. And it is most egregious to see those who have themselves been ostracized take part in it.</p>
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		<title>The greatest threat</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ed Trefzger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’ve been following Tullian Tchividjian’s passionate advocacy of the sufficiency of the gospel and the discussions he’s had with others who want to drive people to law for sanctification. Two people at our church have brought up Tchividjian’s latest book„ so I thought it was about time I read it. This snippet is from a [...]]]></description>
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<p>I’ve been following Tullian Tchividjian’s passionate <a href="http://www.trefzger.org/?p=494">advocacy of the sufficiency of the gospel</a> and the discussions he’s had with others who want to <a href="http://www.trefzger.org/?p=240">drive people to law for sanctification</a>. Two people at our church have brought up Tchividjian’s latest book,<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Nothing-Everything-Tullian-Tchividjian/dp/1433507781?SubscriptionId=0MCPFSM5C2EMNSECX0G2&tag=jazzweek-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" title="" ><em>Jesus + Nothing = Everything</em></a>, so I thought it was about time I read it. This snippet is from a section of the book subtitled, “The Greatest Threat”:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Bible makes it clear that the gospel’s premier enemy is one we often call “legalism.” I like to call it performancism. Still another way of viewing it, especially in its most common manifestation in Christians, is moralism. Strictly speaking, those three terms — legalism, performancism, and moralism — aren’t precisely identical in what they refer to. But there’s so much overlap and interconnection between them that we’ll basically look at them here as one thing.</p>
<p>And what really is that one thing?</p>
<p>Well, it shows up when we fail to believe the gospel. It shows up when behavioral obligations are divorced from gospel declarations, when imperatives are disconnected from gospel indicatives. Legalism happens when what we need to do, not what Jesus has already done, becomes the end game.</p>
<p>Our performancism leads to pride when we succeed and to despair when we fail. But ultimately it leads to slavery either way, because it becomes all about us and what we must do to establish our own identity instead of resting in Jesus and what he accomplished to establish it for us. In all its forms, this wrong focus is anti-gospel and therefore enslaving.</p>
<p>Tchividjian, Tullian.<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Nothing-Everything-Tullian-Tchividjian/dp/1433507781?SubscriptionId=0MCPFSM5C2EMNSECX0G2&tag=jazzweek-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" title="" ><em>Jesus + Nothing = Everything</em></a>. Wheaton, IL: Crossway, 2011. Print. (p. 45–46)</p></blockquote>
<p>I haven’t completed the book yet, but I’d recommend it on having read the first third of it alone.</p>
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		<title>Addicted To Law?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tullian Tchvidjian is one of the best voices for grace and the Gospel out there. He writes today: But while I’m not surprised when I hear venomous rejoinders to grace, I am saddened when the very pack of people that God has unconditionally saved and continues to sustain by his free grace are the very [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tullian Tchvidjian is one of the best voices for grace and the Gospel out there. He writes today:</p>
<blockquote><p>But while I’m not surprised when I hear venomous rejoinders to grace, I am saddened when the very pack of people that God has unconditionally saved and continues to sustain by his free grace are the very ones who push back most violently against it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Read the whole thing at The Gospel Coalition: <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tullian/2012/01/05/might-as-well-face-it-youre-addicted-to-law/">Might As Well Face It, You’re Addicted To Law</a>.</p>
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		<title>Why I believe in believer’s baptism</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ed Trefzger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Justin Taylor of Crossway has an interview today on The Gospel Coalition website with Dr. Stephen J. Wellum of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary on credobaptism. I agree with the way that Dr. Wellum lays out the case, and he does it very well: succinctly and completely. After explaining that paedobaptist Reformed theology “flattens out” the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="alignright" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1433514648/jazzweek-20?tag=jazzweek-20" rel="nofollow"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-486" title="wellumgentry" src="http://www.trefzger.org/wp-content/uploads/wellumgentry.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="300" /></a>Justin Taylor of Crossway has an interview today on The Gospel Coalition website with Dr. Stephen J. Wellum of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary on credobaptism. I agree with the way that Dr. Wellum lays out the case, and he does it very well: succinctly and completely.</p>
<p>After explaining that paedobaptist Reformed theology “flattens out” the covenants and wrongly — and perhaps simplistically — equates Old Covenant Israel with the New Covenant church, Taylor asks, “What does that have to do with baptism?”</p>
<p>Wellum responds:</p>
<blockquote><p>Everything. Under the old covenant, one could make a distinction between the physical and spiritual seed of Abraham (the locus of the covenant community is different from the locus of the elect). Under the old covenant, both “seeds” (physical and spiritual) received the covenant sign of circumcision and both were viewed as full covenant members in the national sense, even though it was only the remnant who were the true spiritual seed of Abraham. But this kind of distinction is not legitimate under the new covenant where the locus of the covenant community and the elect are the same. In other words, one cannot speak of a “remnant” in the new covenant community, like one could under the old covenant. All those who are “in Christ” are a regenerate people, and as such it is only they who may receive the sign of the covenant, namely baptism.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can read the complete interview at The Gospel Coalition website: <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/11/11/why-i-am-a-credobaptist/" target="_blank">Why I am a Credobaptist</a>.</p>
<p>Wellum and co-author Peter J. Gentry have a book coming out next June (cover shown above) which could be a groundbreaking reference: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-through-Covenant-Biblical-Theological-Understanding/dp/1433514648?SubscriptionId=0MCPFSM5C2EMNSECX0G2&tag=jazzweek-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" title="" >Kingdom through Covenant: A Biblical-Theological Understanding of the Covenants.</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Porterbrook ROC brings Porterbrook Network to Rochester, N.Y.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We’re very excited at Evangelical Church of Fairport to be the 11th Learning Site in the U.S. for the Porterbrook Network. Our first fall term begins Oct. 3. Update: we’re postponing the launch until January 2 so that we can get the largest possible participation. More about the Porterbrook Network may be found on our [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://porterbrookROC.com"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-465 noborder" title="pbroc" src="http://www.trefzger.org/wp-content/uploads/pbroc.png" alt="" width="300" height="220" /></a>We’re very excited at <a href="http://www.ecfnet.org" target="_blank">Evangelical Church of Fairport</a> to be the 11th Learning Site in the U.S. for the <a href="http://porterbrooknetwork.org" target="_blank">Porterbrook Network</a>.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Our first fall term begins Oct. 3.</span></p>
<p><em>Update: we’re postponing the launch until January 2 so that we can get the largest possible participation.</em></p>
<p>More about the Porterbrook Network may be found on our local site’s website, <a href="http://porterbrookROC.com" target="_blank">porterbrookROC.com</a>.</p>
<p>Porterbrook Network is a two-year church-based theological training program with a supported self-study structure with others who are training in a similar field, church or geographic affiliation.</p>
<p>Steve Timmis and Tim Chester, co-authors of Total Church and founders of The Crowded House, created The Porterbrook Network in the U.K. in 2006 in response to a conviction for churches to become more Gospel-Centered and for new Gospel-Centered churches to be planted.</p>
<p>The vision of Porterbrook is to equip individuals and churches to rediscover mission as their DNA, to become better lovers of God and lovers of others, and to proclaim the Gospel through word and action for the Glory of God. Porterbrook is being used in the U.K., U.S., Canada, Italy, Ukraine, India, South Africa, and Australia, and Porterbrook Learning material is currently being translated into Chinese, Russian, and Italian.</p>
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		<title>Completed by the Spirit: Download the original paper</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By request, here’s the complete paper from July 2010 from which the Completed by the Spirit blog series was adapted. You’re welcome to download it and distribute it freely as long as you do not modify it: Completed by the Spirit: New Covenant Sanctification in Paul (PDF, 240 kb)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By request, here’s the complete paper from July 2010 from which the Completed by the Spirit blog series was adapted. You’re welcome to download it and distribute it freely as long as you do not modify it:</p>
<p><a title="Completed by the Spirit: New Covenant Sanctification in Paul" href="http://www.trefzger.org/wp-content/uploads/nc-sanctification-in-paul.pdf">Completed by the Spirit: New Covenant Sanctification in Paul</a> (PDF, 240 kb)</p>
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		<title>Setting things straight on ‘contextualization’</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ed Trefzger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The folks at Grace to You frequently condemn the concept of “contextualization” and do so by defining it in light of those who abuse the term. John MacArthur and Phil Johnson in particular have portrayed contextualization as watering down the message so people aren’t offended by it. Ed Stetzer correctly defines contextualization and the need [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-458" title="6a01348981d236970c0147e2a3533e970b-500wi" src="http://www.trefzger.org/wp-content/uploads/6a01348981d236970c0147e2a3533e970b-500wi-300x195.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="195" />The folks at Grace to You frequently condemn the concept of “contextualization” and do so by defining it in light of those who abuse the term. John MacArthur and Phil Johnson in particular have portrayed contextualization as watering down the message so people aren’t offended by it.</p>
<p>Ed Stetzer correctly defines contextualization and the need for it <a href="http://www.edstetzer.com/2011/09/contextualization-and-the-miss.html" target="_blank">on his blog today</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have said it many times, but it always seems to bear repeating — contextualization is not watering down the message. In fact, it is exactly the opposite. To contextualize the gospel means removing cultural and linguistic impediments to the gospel presentation so that only the offense of the cross remains. It is not removing the offensive parts of the gospel; it is using the appropriate means in each culture to clarify exactly who Jesus was, what He did, why He did it, and the implications that flow from it. Oftentimes, it is unclear communication (and a lack of contextualization) that contributes to some rejecting something they do not understand. If the feet of those who bring the gospel are beautiful upon the hills, it is at least partly due to the fact that those who hear the gospel understand and appreciate its life transforming truth. This often occurs through critical contextualization.</p></blockquote>
<p>My often-used definition of contextualization: communicating in a way so as to make the offense of the gospel most clear.</p>
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		<title>Piper: How do you talk to people for whom God is unreal?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Piper posted a video — which looks like he recorded himself in his study — about talking to people for whom God is unreal. They say “don’t give me that God talk. This is a real problem.” It’s an “overflow” from his sermon of this past weekend. When Talking to Folks for Whom God [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Piper posted a video — which looks like he recorded himself in his study — about talking to people for whom God is unreal. They say “don’t give me that God talk. This is a real problem.” It’s an “overflow” from his sermon of this past weekend.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/28868283">When Talking to Folks for Whom God Is Unreal</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/johnpiper">John Piper</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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