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term="son"/><category term="steve jobs"/><category term="stuff"/><category term="technology"/><category term="test"/><category term="twitter"/><category term="vertigo"/><title type='text'>Thoughts From The Antipodes</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default?redirect=false'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25&amp;redirect=false'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image 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type='html'>&lt;i&gt;In honour of the new Xbox’s release this coming morning, I dug out an old blog post I never finished writing, and thought I&#39;d chuck a rough version of it up here.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Enjoy!:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I have become quite addicted of late to the hand&amp;nbsp;picked articles over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://longform.org/&quot;&gt;Longform&lt;/a&gt;, and today I read a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/10/michael-lewis-profile-barack-obama&quot;&gt;great article&lt;/a&gt;  about Obama’s actions in Libya, which it got me thinking, of all things, about how I play video games.&lt;br /&gt;
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The article is a profile of United States president Barack Obama, in which the author seeks to explain Obama&#39;s leadership style through an analysis of a few key moments in the first half of his presidency. Its main focus is on the very public decision for the United States to intervene militarily in Libya. However it intersperses this with another angle of the presidents approach toward tackling complex situations by discussing his strategy going into the weekly game of basketball he organises with other members of his government.&lt;br /&gt;
In the lead up to the article proper, the writer goes over Obama&#39;s explanation of how his style of play has had to change over the years as his abilities reflected his age. One paragraph in particular stuck in my mind:&lt;br /&gt;
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“What happens is, as I get older, the chances I’m going to play well go down. When I was 30 there was, like, a one-in-two chance. By the time I was 40 it was more like one in three or one in four.” He used to focus on personal achievement, but as he can no longer achieve so much personally, he’s switched to trying to figure out how to make his team win. In his decline he’s maintaining his relevance and sense of purpose.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This line of thinking reminds me of how I play games like Halo or Battlefield. In particular why I like playing team oriented games, rather than the helter skelter frenzy of a free for all.&lt;br /&gt;
Let me explain.&lt;br /&gt;
Though I may not be that aged yet (It seems that as the average gamers age has increased each year, so has mine; so things work out nicely), I nevertheless do feel that there is an immense advantage for the youth when it comes to playing video games. First of all, they have more time to play. I remember fondly spending hours and hours with friends perfecting every possible circuit in games like Super Mario Kart, or stealthily stalking opponents on GoldenEye, to the point that tense stalemates ran into hours of rigging proximity mines, or sniping the sharp edged polygons of a crouched individual, trying their best to remain in the small shadow profile we had each mentally mapped.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;We&#39;ve come a long way baby&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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In addition to this extra training time, the younger gaming population is also able to capitalise on their apparent quicker reflexes, and as a result, an uncanny ability to hone their aim when compared to mine.&lt;br /&gt;
Now I have never been much of a long distance fighter as it is (give me a shotgun and melee any day), but I can still sense the disparity in aim, and thus accuracy, when a battle gets going.&lt;br /&gt;
So a while ago I decided that I would not let this asymmetry get me down. Whatever I may now lack in youthful spry, I can more than make up for in guile, strategy and determination.&lt;br /&gt;
I may not be able to stroll through a battlefield picking off my enemies with uncanny headshots as my opponents often do. However these days when I burst on stage I can assure you that, though I tend to go down in a hail of bullets, when my charge is complete and the dust has settled, the opposing team is well aware of it, and generally worse for wear because of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no I in team, and thus there should be no ego on the battlefield. More often than not I notice younger gamers tend to be glory hogs, they go for the highest score for themselves, regardless of the team&#39;s situation. They grab whatever weapon they desire, and assert that they are the best at whatever endeavour they are undertaking.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;More often than not this comes to mind..&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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I pick team based games because I like the strategy. I like looking at what is happening in a game, and figuring out the best plan of attack to turn the tide in my teams favour. Perhaps someone needs suppressive fire, or maybe just a charge into the open to distract the other side. Either way these actions are rarely major points getterson their own, but add up these plays as an overall game plan, and you soon find yourself rising to the top of your teams leaderboard, and aiding the overall probability of a victory.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is the kind of maneuvering that doesn&#39;t see as appealing from a single player point of view. But harrying one&#39;s opponents is just as important as taking them out, or capturing the flag.&lt;br /&gt;
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They always say know your enemy, and what enemy truly hits home more than one’s own weaknesses? At the end of the day it is about knowing your own limitations, and accepting that though the playing field is not even, the bumps and troughs it provides can just as easily substitute for cover as they do for hindrance.&lt;br /&gt;
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Coming full circle this whole thing reminds me of my own days playing basketball.&lt;br /&gt;
I remember the emphasis always on who got the baskets, especially as our coach’s son was the tallest, and thus the officially sanctioned team strategy was ‘throw it to Matt’&lt;br /&gt;
After games my mum would always compliment me on my movements on the court.&lt;br /&gt;
“You&#39;re always where you need to be”, she would say; “they just don’t pass it the way they should”.&lt;br /&gt;
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These days at least I know where I need to be, and the initiative is on me to make the most of this position.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/7508601825961673594/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2013/11/on-video-game-tactics-as-old-man.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/7508601825961673594'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/7508601825961673594'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2013/11/on-video-game-tactics-as-old-man.html' title='On Video Game Tactics as an Old Man'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHifnQUpMadD0759FAc2BtNCL2ADU87lAgOt8S5HymBiloPLxJvwIcFUSywQvW-P8NeBCtVOvJZ1XMgRgSvOFRTP3u3zpgZLAYDMTAbw6_gSZwg4N9H58UivtM8dSu-BLz9Zk8wjfAzzY/s72-c/goldeneye.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-1293654013003965054</id><published>2013-11-22T00:24:00.003+11:00</published><updated>2013-11-22T00:24:48.158+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Xbox"/><title type='text'>Twas the Night Before Xbox….</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;
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I have that giddy feeling that I associate with memories of waiting up for Christmas, or my birthday to come. That odd moment when you seem to be distanced somewhat for the reality of the world, and look at it from some third person view. Excitement flows through your veins. Tomorrow is coming; the event you’re waiting from is almost here. Other worries empty from your mind, and your thoughts are consumed by that one slowly shrinking time period between now, and when the big moment finally comes.&lt;/div&gt;
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Tomorrow I get my new Xbox One.&lt;/div&gt;
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These days however I can also notice a slight twinge of pessimism seeping in. My adult mind can&#39;t sustain the same childlike idealistic view of the future. I keep on thinking about what will go wrong. About how the moment I am looking forward to will never come as smoothly as I imagine it, nor will its eventuation truly match my expectation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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Perhaps it will pull a next generation version of the red ring of death, or maybe the games will have sold out. Best not to get too carried away and to stay realistic I think to myself.&lt;/div&gt;
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But all that being said, I still feel like a kid on Christmas eve.&lt;/div&gt;
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For years I have been fortunate enough to live my life slightly below the average gamers age. I am just over 29 years old, and the average gamer is around 32. So as I have grown, and the gaming world has grown around me, I was always at the cusp of the ‘right’ age to capitalise on games. When I was young, there were simple games. They slowly got more complex as my mind followed suit. As I became more mature, so to did game content.&lt;/div&gt;
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Yet I can&#39;t help notice that this is a trend which cannot be kept up forever. Gamers will continuously be added to the lower end of the age spectrum with far fewer taking up controllers on the higher one. One day the number of gamers younger than me will outnumber those older and I will find myself on the opposite end of the burgeoning wave of new gaming experience.&lt;/div&gt;
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But at the end of the day that isn’t really anything to complain about.&lt;/div&gt;
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So here I am, waiting. Waiting for my new Xbox.&lt;/div&gt;
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I recently wrote a response to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/1646583/same-sex-relationships-damaging-for-children/?cs=65#disqus_thread&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;this letter&lt;/a&gt; printed in The Courier. They rang me around an hour later to get permission to print it with my name attached, I agreed, and with any luck it will be in Mondays edition of our local newspaper.&lt;/div&gt;
Below is a copy of what i wrote, but I would also like to point out today one of the replies i found on the Courier&#39;s website from one of the regular contributors as i think it is well worth a read to try and understand the psyche of some of those on the opposing team.&lt;br /&gt;
But first, my response letter.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: large;&quot;&gt;“Won’t somebody please think of the children!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I write in response to Brendan Keogh’s letter ‘Same-sex relationships damaging for children’, in which the author outlines reasons why gays should not be allowed to marry, or adopt.&lt;br /&gt;To quote Mr Keogh, he believes that ‘Marriage is a legal and social institution with a biological foundation, which helps to bind a male to his mate for stability and for the children they might have’.&lt;br /&gt;Note the sterile descriptions about how marriage is about ‘binding’ a male to his mate, note the specific gender mentioned, and note the complete absence of love, emotions, or commitment; things which I believe are much more vital to a healthy marriage and family life than mere biological compatibility.&lt;br /&gt;The author claims that evidence supporting the view that same-sex parents can successfully raise healthy children is ‘shallow and biased’, yet offers no corollary evidence to support their claim that same-sex couples raising a child is ‘unnatural and damaging to them [the child]’. There are assertions yes; but no evidence.&lt;br /&gt;According to the author, the role of a mother in raising a child is ‘the emotional security of the bonding touch and feeding’, whereas a father is required to ‘firmly model’ the child into adulthood. Such clear cut gender roles are not an intrinsic part of being a parent. There is no reason why a father cannot offer emotional security, and bond with their child during feeding. Nor is there anything stopping a mother from helping guide their child into adulthood. Asserting such roles is simply a throwback to the days when mothers stayed home to clean the house while men went off to bring home the bacon.&lt;br /&gt;Any argument about a child being robbed of their biological identity falls flat when you look at the multitude of families out there that raise adopted children, or are comprised of single parents, and are able to produce perfectly well-adjusted individuals.&lt;br /&gt;The author’s clear aversion to same sex relationships in general is evident in the language they use, calling their mutual love an ‘unnatural satisfaction’.&lt;br /&gt;This appeal to natural law however is no more than a veiled appeal to religious values. If we are to accept natural law as a governing factor in who can raise children, then sterile couples would be banned from adoption. Yet point out that homosexual coupling is prevalent throughout the natural world, and suddenly natural law is relegated to the sidelines.&lt;br /&gt;Again we see the opponents of homosexual marriage and adoption sinking further into malaise as they try and justify their outdated views. No longer willing to attack the unions directly, they now seek to reduce the argument to sterile biological terms, and relegate marriage to an institution solely derived for the act of procreation and child rearing.&lt;br /&gt;Never is love mentioned in this argument. Not the love that parents feel for their children, which is a necessity to raising a child, nor the love between two people who are committed to entering into a marriage together.&lt;br /&gt;Opponents of same sex couples can no longer sway public opinion by simply pointing out how offended their sensibilities are by the existence of such people, so now they are reduced to echoing Maude Flanders perennial cry of “Won’t somebody please think of the children!” in the hope that appealing to peoples innate sense of responsibility toward children will blind them to the obvious flaws in their arguments.&lt;br /&gt;To grow up as a healthy and well-adjusted person you don’t need a male and female to raise you; you need parents who love you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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I&#39;m pretty happy with that response. And responding seems to be the main way that i ever get the motivation to send anything into The Courier, which is guess isn&#39;t a bad thing.&lt;/div&gt;
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But then last night i was checking the comments on this article, which were assuring in their general disagreement with the authors thesis, until i stumbled upon this reply:&lt;/div&gt;
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Thanks Brendan, well said. It&#39;s very sad that so many confuse love with lust. Looking at same-sex relationships today , some think it&#39;s keeping up with the times. If they went into history, they would know that it&#39;s all been done before. The best thing to do, is to live morally with Love. If you truly love your children, you will give them a Mum &amp;amp; Dad that are married.&lt;br /&gt;People like to rubbish the Churches of any denomination if they can&#39;t get what they want out of it. Why is it that Christians always get the blame for all bad? True Christians are devastated, seeing how obscene some have become. They are not judging you, but are sad for such behaviour. The children raised by same-sexes, may not be bad, but they don&#39;t know how to live morally, they only know self-gratification, and their minds are tainted with this. Real Happiness, is doing it Right!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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It is cliche Christian fundamentalist claptrap, from the bad grammar, to the randomly capitalised initials, and from the hypocritical theme (we aren&#39;t judging you; but here are my judgements of your behaviour...), to the smug sense of moral authority. But the one line that really sent my blood boiling was this one:&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;The children raised by same-sexes, may not be bad, but they don&#39;t know how to live morally, they only know self-gratification, and their minds are tainted with this.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Really? People can say this in today&#39;s day and age, and not feel as if they are on the wrong side of not only history, but also decency?&lt;/div&gt;
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One of the best parts of being an atheist and confronting these people (albeit online and in no direct way) is that i don&#39;t mind pointing out that i am judging them. I judge her words as phenomenally offensive. I judge her to be an insensitive person, for suggesting that homosexual people don&#39;t know love from lust, or that they are only choosing a lifestyle for the sake of &#39;keeping up with the times&#39;.&lt;/div&gt;
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Rest assured, I dont think my judgement comes from anything but my own opinions, but I am willing to put my argument to the test against hers, and i figure that if one can put a rigorous argument together of their own accord, rather than referring to some ancient text, then surely there is merit in this?&lt;/div&gt;
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Anyway, thats my little rant over; what do you all think?&lt;/div&gt;
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MM&lt;/div&gt;
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True Blood, I am still trying to enjoy you. Really I am; even after the massive letdown that was last season. And I must say, so far this season has been looking quite positive; focusing on what used to make the show good (the conflict of everyday troubles with supernatural oddities), rather than getting too bogged down in the freaky stuff (Fairy interpretive dance, possessive witches, weird goat shaman thing and so on).&lt;/div&gt;
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But one thing I haven’t been enjoying is the annoying turn in Alcide’s character, and the conflict this has produced with Sam. Especially when the fight between Sam (shapeshifter) and Alcide (werewolf) was such a lacklustre event. This is even more disappointing considering last season True Blood illustrated just how formidable Sam’s shapeshifting powers can be in a fight.&lt;br /&gt;
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Observe:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;For those not in the know; that is a man shapeshifting into a fly, &amp;nbsp;flying into someone&#39;s mouth, and then turning back into a human. Brilliant!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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So when Alcide and his biker/werewolf gang turned up and started a biff, I couldn’t help but think that it should have turned out this way:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Artwork courtesy of my boredom at work&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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Blue whale wins every time.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Liberal Senator, and Tony Abbott&#39;s former personal
parliamentary secretary, Cory Bernardi is again defending &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/bernardi-under-fire-for-bestiality-comments-20120919-265dg.html&quot;&gt;his comments&lt;/a&gt; regarding&amp;nbsp;a spurious
link between homosexual marriage, polygamous marriage and even bestiality.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;A cursory Google search shows that Cory likes to have his photo taken with books, but finds it hard to keep his eyes on the page&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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Clearly not fazed by the public backlash at his original
equivocation of these relationships, Bernardi now believes that a petition being organised in support of polygamous relationships vindicates his earlier remarks.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/bernardi-i-was-right-on-gay-marriage-and-polygamy-20130618-2offe.html#ixzz2WX2sA9BN&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&quot;I stand on the record and say, well I was right,&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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This from the same man whose internal logic insists that
loving someone of the same sex can be easily correlated to having sex with an
animal:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&quot;Bestiality, of course it was an extreme example, but
once again it&#39;s linked to the radical agenda of the Greens Party,&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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He calls it an extreme example, but still seriously thinks
it a valid one, and what’s more asserts an untenable link to Green Party
policy.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Regarding the question of homosexual marriage Bernardi had
this to say:&lt;/div&gt;
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&quot;I think there should be alarm . . . If you&#39;re going to
re-define a word to satisfy demands of a minority then you&#39;re going to face
continuing demands in that space.&#39;&#39;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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The thing he fails to take into account is that it isn’t a
minority that is demanding this right; it is the majority! &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Yes, the subset of the population that is gay is a minority; but the subset that wants gay marriage to be made legal&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.australianmarriageequality.com/wp/who-supports-equality/a-majority-of-australians-support-marriage-equality/&quot;&gt; is a majority&lt;/a&gt;. I firmly believe that gays
should be able to marry if they choose to, even though I myself am not gay, and
would thus never benefit directly from the ability to do so. So while I am not
a part of the minority being denied rights, I am a part of the majority that
believes this should be rectified.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Those who are arguing for polygamous relationships to be
given the same right however do not have the backing of the majority of
Australians. They are both a minority in this sense, and also in the obvious
sense that the majority of Australians are not tempted to take multiple spouses
(we assume).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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This is the fundamental difference that needs to be
addressed in dealing with fallacious arguments like Mr Bernardi’s. We are not
seeking to affirm rights for minorities because they demand them, but rather
because the majority recognise these inherent rights. You don’t have to share
in a minority’s reality in order to agree with their position. And when the
majority of the population believes that these rights should be recognised, it
is not kowtowing to the minority; it is the will of the majority.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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What’s worse is that setting up ones position based solely
on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fallacyfiles.org/slipslop.html&quot;&gt;‘slippery slope’&lt;/a&gt; argument fails to take into account any differences between propositions. It
simply asserts that if you allow one thing, then you must allow others. The
same argument was dragged out in opposition to mixed marriages, and no doubt
many of those who employed it in the past would feel as vindicated of their
bigoted beliefs due to the push for gay marriage coming after mixed race
marriages, as Bernardi does when facing polygamy today.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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But just because one thing can lead to another, does not
mean it must. And what’s more, just because one thing is allowed, does not mean
all subsequent things must also be permitted. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
The strength of the slippery slope argument rests solely on
its ability to prove a link between these subsequent propositions. In this
sense, Bernardi and others fail miserably.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
There are fundamental differences between allowing gay
marriage, and allowing polygamous marriage. One requires a fundamental change
to the marriage code, and associated laws, the other does not. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
It is not hard to substitute a husband and husband, or a
wife and a wife, for a husband and wife in our legal system. It is
fundamentally the same thing; recognising a relationship between two
individuals. Indeed much of our legal system now accepts the role of same sex relationships&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ag.gov.au/RightsAndProtections/HumanRights/Pages/Samesexreforms.aspx&quot;&gt;in one form or another&lt;/a&gt;.  Adding a third party to the affair
however would require a whole new set of rules to deal with the ambiguity or asymmetry
of a multi-partnered relationship, whether it be sorting out inheritance, defining
guardianship and so on.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
All this being said, I myself don’t have any major
objections to polygamous relationships, I just don’t think them very practical,
or stable. If I was to be proven wrong, and shown that people could make such
an arrangement work harmoniously, then more power to them.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
But at the end of the day these two arguments are separate arguments,
linked only by the fact that they both deal with relationships and marriage,
but not linked in any fundamental way that would demand both be recognised
should either ‘cross the line’ into law.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
Thanks for reading,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
MM&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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The new Xbox is set to be announced tomorrow. Or today I guess, as it is in the United States that things will take place. But it is tomorrow for us, at 3:00 a.m. Microsoft is set to announce what can only be the latest generation of their gaming console; and I am pumped!&lt;/div&gt;
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It is odd to realise that a central part of my entertainment is still being provided by a piece of tech that is around 8 years old. Eight years! Think about it; eight years ago, there was no such thing as an iPhone.&lt;/div&gt;
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Sure, I guess now it is a sign of our times that we think new technology must be purchased the instant it debuts, and old technology shunted to the kerb; but 8 years seems a phenomenal time to still be using the same bit of tech. &amp;nbsp;Especially when you consider how much the experience has advanced over the years.&lt;/div&gt;
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Just look at this comparison of Oblivion and Skyrim; same machine, same game series, wildly&amp;nbsp;different experience.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQyN-hjOCQcJdGC7IovYgVhckmMjLgvI6ZbmY_bklBCDNWrPSKfdl2Rt_oZJ890rhQK9OgcziLiTT3LvnpUr2YAEUvhEVSd0sw1ytceitXym5oVtST5q5ZBG1cNKEsfhmf1x-P-n8Vt-E/s1600/oblivion-skyrimcomparison.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;640&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQyN-hjOCQcJdGC7IovYgVhckmMjLgvI6ZbmY_bklBCDNWrPSKfdl2Rt_oZJ890rhQK9OgcziLiTT3LvnpUr2YAEUvhEVSd0sw1ytceitXym5oVtST5q5ZBG1cNKEsfhmf1x-P-n8Vt-E/s640/oblivion-skyrimcomparison.jpg&quot; width=&quot;584&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Now, if I were to expect the same things of, say, my mobile phone, I would want my old 2005 era Nokia to be able to fill the boots of my current&amp;nbsp;iPhone 4s. That means storing the whole discographies of my favourite bands, letting me watch my favourite shows and movies, connecting with family and friends, taking high definition photos, listening to voice commands and downloading thousands of amazing apps. Or at least&amp;nbsp;instead&amp;nbsp;offering&amp;nbsp;me a fraction of this experience as the older Xbox did compared to the current.&lt;/div&gt;
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Instead I would have been relying on this:&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7PSPRRRvhirzM25pj1fpTP7sm7211D41gT1gfvzI2x6PexzSLFzKKAxA0uKQtwWK7tC7a3S2gRos2A-XbYls4zkmKDTYCpFnm5xLrU5WTI418AlIA2KE36t9KyDhB-S_mewc1VILdN70/s1600/Nokia.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7PSPRRRvhirzM25pj1fpTP7sm7211D41gT1gfvzI2x6PexzSLFzKKAxA0uKQtwWK7tC7a3S2gRos2A-XbYls4zkmKDTYCpFnm5xLrU5WTI418AlIA2KE36t9KyDhB-S_mewc1VILdN70/s320/Nokia.jpg&quot; width=&quot;167&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones#2005&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;State of the art&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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Earlier today a couple of friends and I were musing over the difference that the console itself has gone through over its almost decade on this earth. There were the ugly ‘blades’ that were out gateway to the Xbox dashboard, or its initial inability to play media stored on an external hard drive (or even in such common formats as avi or xvid).&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbyM1U1R0T5bk8H4SnMJwmZhG9LdDSiI2-5uyr_g5lrdKHKQhtCyYAcry7XyG-g6rOyeRj4LcMNsVf2EiBRryjQKJtqdpDpCS-OYcTXBYtaDtFgFQrJJWLTcPmhMRkpm2JgnI8dpmIkvo/s1600/xboxscreen008.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;300&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbyM1U1R0T5bk8H4SnMJwmZhG9LdDSiI2-5uyr_g5lrdKHKQhtCyYAcry7XyG-g6rOyeRj4LcMNsVf2EiBRryjQKJtqdpDpCS-OYcTXBYtaDtFgFQrJJWLTcPmhMRkpm2JgnI8dpmIkvo/s400/xboxscreen008.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Check out the theme; so mid-2000&#39;s&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;div class=&quot;p3&quot;&gt;
Its older than Facebook, than Youtube (pretty much), and than Android.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;p3&quot;&gt;
Whats more mind bending from my point of view is its older than my son! Hell, its even older than my career (if you can call it that). 8 years ago, when it was finally time to upgrade from my humble old Xbox to the newly released Xbox 360, life was very different for me. For starters I had to scrape together money and ask for my mums help in being able to afford the thing! At least now I wont have to do that. Instead I will scrape together money and get my wife&#39;s help in budgeting this into our family’s expenses. Oh times how they change.&lt;/div&gt;
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Debt remains debt it appears.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;p2&quot;&gt;
There was no financial crisis when Xbox 360 appeared. Few people could tell you what sub-prime even meant, and if pushed, I would have grasped at straws by mentioning&amp;nbsp;Autobot&amp;nbsp;hierarchy.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgbvfqXGFDqR5T_bOCRyEAzor_-wYgWyERGChP12UfrQf7eIG4wN8botJoWcm_B-GKj6C69X-6r6M66ugHmc0NvlDHyeiBSl3kYegvXp-goSTebXW6POnZdY1ECgIHym9Dq4u3jAMQ-u60/s1600/Rodimus_Prime_Redesign_2.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgbvfqXGFDqR5T_bOCRyEAzor_-wYgWyERGChP12UfrQf7eIG4wN8botJoWcm_B-GKj6C69X-6r6M66ugHmc0NvlDHyeiBSl3kYegvXp-goSTebXW6POnZdY1ECgIHym9Dq4u3jAMQ-u60/s400/Rodimus_Prime_Redesign_2.jpg&quot; width=&quot;351&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;I guess as a lesser Prime he could be considered a &#39;sub-prime&#39;...&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;div class=&quot;p3&quot;&gt;
There was a lot of hype around the new console, it managed to live up to much of its potential, but other parts of the state of the art machine have long since lost their relevance. Has anyone seriously been buying faceplates for their machines over the years? I did’t think so.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhVsOQedNGYi8PTtWyxOnYxqLgUT-_XaaWMLdTwCGW5zREV8UNBrdmNTu3r2BFm2YiAmBFcBB8Avif4Q4TDyW6kfCfDmxLgjO-gHLXo6YJE8PzQQcQQxPNT8m76exxco0H383ueJ_pdGc/s1600/faceplate.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhVsOQedNGYi8PTtWyxOnYxqLgUT-_XaaWMLdTwCGW5zREV8UNBrdmNTu3r2BFm2YiAmBFcBB8Avif4Q4TDyW6kfCfDmxLgjO-gHLXo6YJE8PzQQcQQxPNT8m76exxco0H383ueJ_pdGc/s320/faceplate.jpg&quot; width=&quot;317&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Thought this one is&amp;nbsp;certainly&amp;nbsp;worth investing in&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;div class=&quot;p3&quot;&gt;
The wait seemed to go on forever. I remember receiving my hideous blue faceplate in the mail a week before the&amp;nbsp;console&amp;nbsp;itself arrived on our shores, as well as a DVD of gameplay, and videos showing what the graphical user interface would look like. Watching it over and over as I dreamt of the&amp;nbsp;amazing&amp;nbsp;future that included things like, wait for it,&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;wireless controllers&lt;/i&gt;!&lt;/div&gt;
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It is also worth pointing out that the console I finally obtained on that day isn’t the same one I have today, though it is practically the same beast. Us Aussies had to deal with the crap end of Microsoft&#39;s roll out, first of all having our machines delayed when demand exceeded supply, and those Xbox 360s which had been destined for the land down under were appropriated by other interests. Then to add salt to the wound, the machines we got were more prone to suffer death via red ring. I had paid an extra $50 for the ability to swap any malfunctioning equipment with EB Games, and it was a decision that more than paid for itself (though note literally of course).&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;p2&quot;&gt;
Within a week of getting my Xbox, it was dead. I replaced it in a day, and all was well. Until two weeks later, when the red ring fairy visited again and shut me down once more. Luckily third time was the charm, and the machine that hums and expels copious amounts of heat into my living room today is the same one that replaced the second try all those years ago.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEibonacjLDL_MoaLmkMHtFxqqMf91WtvELkYhCNncyyyj-gTciY8kvVkoKjI6jLDKyB2049QuXHBmV14HgNqKtdtCr6_FcxWt9yKOpf0FhjE3IckqKmY77cq-oiTmbHM2pitEbyabZ2RaI/s1600/red-ring-of-death.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEibonacjLDL_MoaLmkMHtFxqqMf91WtvELkYhCNncyyyj-gTciY8kvVkoKjI6jLDKyB2049QuXHBmV14HgNqKtdtCr6_FcxWt9yKOpf0FhjE3IckqKmY77cq-oiTmbHM2pitEbyabZ2RaI/s400/red-ring-of-death.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Repeat screenings available...&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;One last thought.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;p2&quot;&gt;
I know sometimes it can be tedious to hear parents relate all their experience through the prism of parenthood; but I cant help feel that this next transition from seventh generation console to eighth will be an amazing thing to watch my son go through. During the previous transition between Xboxes he went from two disjointed human cells, all the way up to a cogent, sentient awesome little man.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;With a god damn green belt!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;div class=&quot;p2&quot;&gt;
I remember playing&amp;nbsp;Oblivion&amp;nbsp;while he sat in a bouncer next to me, struggling to tell the difference between the world around him, and the fingers at the end of his hand. I remember&amp;nbsp;introducing&amp;nbsp;him to the world of gaming, and watching as he&amp;nbsp;marvelled&amp;nbsp;at the ability to shape events happening on a television screen with the press of a button.&lt;/div&gt;
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When he was only two years old I would&amp;nbsp;tentatively&amp;nbsp;play Grand Theft Auto 4 with him on my lap (ensuring I obeyed the speed rules and caused no pedestrian harm), and was amused when he&amp;nbsp;berated&amp;nbsp;me for not putting on a helmet while I drove my motorbike around Liberty City.&lt;/div&gt;
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If we can expect the same useful life out of this next console, then it will be the year 2021 when we next have to fork out a large sum of money and send it Bill Gates way. My son would be 15 years old on that day, in Year Ten, and living in a world who&#39;s fads and pastimes haven’t even been invented yet. Most likely he will play games between then and now that in some way will shape his life, his growth and who knows what else. He will experience movies and television shows that will stay with him forever. Through this conduit so much of our culture and knowledge will be available to him, in a way to shape who he is; and the thought of that really gets me excited.&lt;/div&gt;
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Bring it on Redmond!&lt;/div&gt;
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MM&lt;/div&gt;
</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/7746869001386758036/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2013/05/thoughts-on-imminent-xbox.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/7746869001386758036'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/7746869001386758036'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2013/05/thoughts-on-imminent-xbox.html' title='Thoughts on the Imminent Xbox '/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEisRq-d-KHbqvFYZdv6M-jaAyRp82hGgEnaco2wuKYv3-sNgFSEBZKaCZ6JG3x9b-Sl27Pnmru0yoLH_q6ZadiaHMAKJYKcW_n62ekBnnKY47o0XmnhGLejSKukp-9e-5EFVsLmOt9dxa8/s72-c/Screenshot_21_05_13_11_47_PM-2.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-540608255417996755</id><published>2013-04-29T20:55:00.003+10:00</published><updated>2013-04-29T20:55:43.888+10:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="book thoughts"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="brief"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="economics"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Keynes"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="musings"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Tony Abbott"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="World History"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="World War I"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="World War II"/><title type='text'>Thoughts on The Economic Consequences of the Peace, by John Maynard Keynes</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;A while back I read
the above mentioned book (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/15776&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;get it online for free!&lt;/a&gt;) and wrote down some of
my thoughts as I went along (though not in a structured or coherent manner). Here they are for anyone who is interested, and
even for those who are not.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I had heard of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;John Maynard Keynes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;before; by which I mean I had read his name in passing many
times, from many sources. But I didn’t know that much about the man, what the
eponymous form of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Keynesian Economics&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;described; what’s more I didn’t even know how to say his name! (I still don’t)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/CLASSIX.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;268&quot; src=&quot;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/CLASSIX.png&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Shockingly graphs like this have not helped&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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But the man seemed remarkably prescient in deducing how
events would come to pass in the world, particularly when he adopted a tone of
pessimism.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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When discussing the role of the embryonic League of Nations, he is sceptical of its ultimate
effectiveness, and in his analysis hits upon many points which could arguably
be applied to the faults inherent in todays United Nations.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
“But the League will operate, say its supporters, by its
influence on the public opinion of the world, and the view of the majority will
carry decisive weight in practice, even though constitutionally it is of no
effect. Let us pray that this be so. Yet the League in the hands of the trained
European diplomatist may become an unequalled instrument for obstruction and
delay. The revision of Treaties is entrusted primarily, not to the Council,
which meets frequently, but to the Assembly, which will meet more rarely and
must become, as any one with an experience of large Inter-Ally Conferences must
know, an unwieldy polyglot debating society in which the greatest resolution
and the best management may fail altogether to bring issues to a head against
an opposition in favor of the status quo.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Being written prior to World War II, it is also interesting
to note the language used when referring to the war itself.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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I was previously interested to learn that World War I was
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_world_war#Names&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;called the First World War&lt;/a&gt; long before there was a second to compare it to. I had always as a child accepted
the two as a combined set forming a part of our history. A view further
reinforced during later years when you learn a bit more about the conflicts, in
particular how linked they were. Then noticing more memorials around town (old
British Empire colonies have more World War I memorials than they do World War II),
the title of the Great War embedded in my mind that this was the name given
before it was revealed that history had more in store.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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However the true genesis of the term First World War isn’t
one of comparing events, but rather of defining events. It was the ‘first’
world war. Not the first in a series, but the first ever to come to pass. Many
hoped it would be the only (hence the sadly defunct moniker; The War to End All
Wars), but at the time it was considered momentous that the whole worlds focus
could be turned toward conflict (even though it really wasn’t the whole world
anyway).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiKWRThe3GPFeM_xoZUO5KadH2jsAuII96jtmadRuEvYlnC8oJnFV8bkWSJkDGuT9s83fv0wxjiFrvcX2jthyx2e9mDBeHc5yWMlPEBtX1tgkrnx9AXz00JFb5cQwXFqOf2ZxCLKsFTqsQ/s1600/WWI-re.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;268&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiKWRThe3GPFeM_xoZUO5KadH2jsAuII96jtmadRuEvYlnC8oJnFV8bkWSJkDGuT9s83fv0wxjiFrvcX2jthyx2e9mDBeHc5yWMlPEBtX1tgkrnx9AXz00JFb5cQwXFqOf2ZxCLKsFTqsQ/s640/WWI-re.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Though i guess it was pretty close (axis in orange, allies in green)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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But anyway, back to the more direct point.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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I was interested to note that Keynes at times refers to the
First World War as a European world war (or European civil war). Whether or not
he believes this to be the case isn’t certain, however he makes it clear that this
is what the French government (in particular their Prime Minister Clemenceau) believed the conflict to be. Clemenceau
saw the war as a continuation of European civil wars, a pattern which had transpired
in the past (there is a lot of reference to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1870_War&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;war of 1870&lt;/a&gt;, in which Germany defeated France), and was destined to
continue in the future. As such the French leader was determined to break
Germany’s backbone, in order to ensure that its victory, which he considered as
but one in a long line of battles, would be more lasting.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Strange to think that such actions wishing to prevent
Germany’s future victories over France more likely fuelled on their ultimate
defeat in World War II.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Reading this analysis, one can’t help but feel that
Germany’s ultimate breaking of the treaty, and subsequent resurgence, was all
but a certainty given the strains it was put under. This isn’t to say that Hitler’s
rise was foreseeable, or justified. But when one considers that the nation of
Germany was left with the choice of either surrendering any foreseeable surplus
or profit for a generation, or else breaking the treaty; what population
wouldn’t choose the later? The fact that such animosity had been created between
Germany and her captors only helped to foster an environment where the more
unsavoury members of society could more easily hoist their views and remain
within the scope of public thought.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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With the full weight of historical events such as the great
depression, and World War II, falling just shy of this account, one can’t help
but view everything that Keynes talks about through this odd prism of
foresight.&lt;/div&gt;
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Keynes predicts the malaise about to grip the world’s
economy. He sees the inherent problems within the League of Nations, and
understands that if the treaty of Versailles isn’t altered, that the
consequences would not only be dire for Germany, but for Europe, and perhaps
the world as a whole.&lt;/div&gt;
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Indeed, his arguments were so persuasive that they affected
public opinion both in England and the United States.&lt;/div&gt;
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The English public began to think of the Treaty’s terms as a
sort of Carthaginian Peace, and felt that Germany had been hard done by. Such
sentiments would later go on to help establish the ill-informed policy of
appeasement adopted by Chamberlain in the lead up to World War II.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Again it is odd to think that measures made with seemingly
good intentions can lead to such horrible consequences. First a French desire
to avoid future defeat at the hands of Germany brings about a future French
defeat, and then a British desire to atone to Germany for their harsh treatment
allows Germany to commit crimes more horrible than it was originally being chastised
for.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Closing off his chapter on Europe after the Treaty, Keynes
foresees the economic turmoil that would give birth too Nazism:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
“Economic privation proceeds by easy stages, and so long as
men suffer it patiently the outside world cares little. Physical efficiency and
resistance to disease slowly diminish,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gutenberg.org/files/15776/15776-h/15776-h.htm#Footnote_156_159&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;but
life proceeds somehow, until the limit of human endurance is reached at last
and counsels of despair and madness stir the sufferers from the lethargy which
precedes the crisis. Then man shakes himself, and the bonds of custom are
loosed. The power of ideas is sovereign, and he listens to whatever instruction
of hope, illusion, or revenge is carried to him on the air”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
“But who can say how much is endurable, or in what direction
men will seek at last to escape from their misfortunes?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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You can almost hear the jackboots.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Similarly as reading a text written in the period between
last centuries two major conflicts inevitably leads one to view the writing in
a light it was not exactly mean to be read in, I can’t help but apply some of
the writings to one of this centuries budding defining events; the rise of
China.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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True there is not much said in Keynes work about China, nor
is China’s current economic growth something that is only confined to the 21&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
century, but nevertheless I found this passage bringing images of China to mind
when I read it:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
“The great events of history are often due to secular
changes in the growth of population and other fundamental economic causes,
which, escaping by their gradual character the notice of contemporary
observers, are attributed to the follies of statesmen or the fanaticism of
atheists.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Chinas rise has always seemed to me to be a simple matter of
demographics. When you have 20% of the world’s population within your borders,
you can’t be held down forever. And though its ‘rise’ seems to have caught a
few people off guard, it definitely seems to have accomplished this through a
gradual nature.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Then there were passages which evoked similar descriptions
of the world as it appears to some today:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
“Europe was so organized socially and economically as to
secure the maximum accumulation of capital. While there was some continuous
improvement in the daily conditions of life of the mass of the population,
Society was so framed as to throw a great part of the increased income into the
control of the class least likely to consume it. The new rich of the nineteenth
century were not brought up to large expenditures, and preferred the power
which investment gave them to the pleasures of immediate consumption. In fact,
it was precisely the inequality of the distribution of wealth which made
possible those vast accumulations of fixed wealth and of capital improvements
which distinguished that age from all others. Herein lay, in fact, the main
justification of the Capitalist System. If the rich had spent their new wealth
on their own enjoyments, the world would long ago have found such a régime intolerable.
But like bees they saved and accumulated, not less to the advantage of the
whole community because they themselves held narrower ends in prospect.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Is this accumulation of wealth by small percentages what
lead to the great depression, and what is now worrying people in places like
America?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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I also found it interesting how Keynes talks of the American
President’s inability to hold his own during chamber debates. I have often
heard people in the United States bemoan their politician’s lack of ability in this
regard, especially when compared to politicians accustomed to the Westminster System,
or equivalent, where their ability is forged in the crucible of question time.
This perhaps is why Americans were so impressed with Gillard’s recent flaying
of Abbots sexism.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6gFkWHYJL1-L-xRZi5GAeMsyslzj533ZXNCZAzkFcyZdQol-HcgsLQQU4m7yk1Lm6MXcSzWkaAULxSzpq78JaQYgo2HOnKD6_sAUYrQfTTyLGiwEeprfmZVEvBb-j5NwO23TnHD2jGIk/s1600/Tony+Abbott.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6gFkWHYJL1-L-xRZi5GAeMsyslzj533ZXNCZAzkFcyZdQol-HcgsLQQU4m7yk1Lm6MXcSzWkaAULxSzpq78JaQYgo2HOnKD6_sAUYrQfTTyLGiwEeprfmZVEvBb-j5NwO23TnHD2jGIk/s1600/Tony+Abbott.jpg&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;I&amp;nbsp;couldn&#39;t&amp;nbsp;resist&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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I also enjoyed a few quotes I figured were worth repeating
here.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
“Thus this remarkable system depended for its growth on a
double bluff or deception. On the one hand the labouring classes accepted from
ignorance or powerlessness, or were compelled, persuaded, or cajoled by custom,
convention, authority, and the well-established order of Society into
accepting, a situation in which they could call their own very little of the
cake that they and Nature and the capitalists were co-operating to produce. And
on the other hand the capitalist classes were allowed to call the best part of
the cake theirs and were theoretically free to consume it, on the tacit
underlying condition that they consumed very little of it in practice. The duty
of &quot;saving&quot; became nine-tenths of virtue and the growth of the cake
the object of true religion. There grew round the non-consumption of the cake
all those instincts of puritanism which in other ages has withdrawn itself from
the world and has neglected the arts of production as well as those of enjoyment.
And so the cake increased; but to what end was not clearly contemplated.
Individuals would be exhorted not so much to abstain as to defer, and to
cultivate the pleasures of security and anticipation. Saving was for old age or
for your children; but this was only in theory,—the virtue of the cake was that
it was never to be consumed, neither by you nor by your children after you.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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The cake is real.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
“As lately as 1890 Europe had a population three times that
of North and South America added together”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
Wow.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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When talking of rhetoric and the art of argument, Keynes
offers this interesting bit of insight:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
“A moment often arrives when substantial victory is yours if
by some slight appearance of a concession you can save the face of the
opposition or conciliate them by a restatement of your proposal helpful to them
and not injurious to anything essential to yourself.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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I just found it interesting.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Georgia&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;“In fact,
here, as elsewhere, political considerations cut disastrously across economic.
In a régime of Free Trade and free economic intercourse it would be of little
consequence that iron lay on one side of a political frontier, and labor, coal,
and blast furnaces on the other. But as it is, men have devised ways to
impoverish themselves and one another; and prefer collective animosities to
individual happiness”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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Also, billions are referred to
by Keynes as ‘milliards’. Nice&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Well that’s pretty much all I have
to say. Has anyone else read this, and if so, what were your thoughts?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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The opinion section of my local newspaper, The Courier, has
been heating up a lot lately with arguments regarding marriage equality. &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;esrc=s&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=1&amp;amp;cad=rja&amp;amp;ved=0CDAQFjAA&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecourier.com.au%2Fstory%2F1447939%2Fmisguided-sympathies-destroying-marriage%2F&amp;amp;ei=QcB9UdDaLobyiAefp4CoDw&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNG0kWvycZDgwuspXXgvbrC1MRLEJA&amp;amp;sig2=arTEjjTF9moReHeC_PHGLg&amp;amp;bvm=bv.45645796,d.dGI&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;One post in particular&lt;/a&gt; set my argumentative mind a flurry, so I penned the below
response. It didn’t make it into the Letters to the Editor section (there seems
to have been a plethora of responses printed, so I am using that excuse to
explain why mine slipped through the gaps), so I figured I’d post it here, with
a couple of annotations:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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I write in reply to Father Bernard McGrath’s letter
(Misguided Sympathies Destroying Marriages), in which he tries to define
marriage based on the ability to procreate alone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;The author states that marriage is a personal and public
institution for the good of society, and I agree with him. He then goes on to
explain exactly why same sex partnerships should be excluded from this
institution, and why he believes this is a fair outcome. This is where our
views diverge.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;Father Bernard’s arguments start to get tenuous very early
on.&lt;br /&gt; First he states that marriage is a law of nature, separate
from religious and state laws, failing perhaps to realise that same sex
relationships are likewise a part of nature. He goes on to highlight the
procreative nature of marriage, in that it is intended for the creation of
babies, but then seeks to give a pass to those who are unwilling to reproduce,
by asserting that they ‘give witness’ to what he believes to be the ultimate
purpose of marriage; again procreation.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;i&gt;[Note:I believe that this witnessing he refers to is simply
the fact that married couples have sex. Why he doesn’t believe that same sex
couple ‘witness’ in a very similar way is again left unanswered]&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;Now I don’t come to this argument devoid of my own views and
beliefs; I am an atheist to the bone, and a happily married man. However I
would argue that rather than basing the institution of marriage (something the
Father and I both believe to be for the good of society) on the mere act of
procreation, we should instead focus on what makes marriage, and the union it
represents, truly important to our society: love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;I married my wife not so that we could procreate (after all,
we had successfully achieved this prior), but rather because I love her with
all my heart, and wish to spend the rest of my life with her. This is the form
of love and devotion that I believe we as a society should celebrate with the
title of marriage; not just the act of procreation. After all, many people
choose not to procreate, and many more still are unable to procreate. I would
challenge Father Bernard to explain to me how a married same sex couple
adopting a child would be functionally any different than an infertile married
couple adopting one of their own.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;Father Bernard’s arguments belie his conservative and
outdated views when he seeks to explain that equality isn’t as simple as some
‘misguided’ advocates think. He states “After all, a man cannot be a mother nor
a woman a father, so they can never be absolutely equal”, but fails to realise
that both of these things are in effect equal; both are parents. Instead he
champions the woefully outdated rhetoric of ‘same but different’.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;In another&amp;nbsp; telling
line the author laments the fact that if same sex marriage were permitted then
marriage would no longer be centred around our ability to procreate, but rather
it would exist as ‘something primarily centred on the desires and emotions of
adults’.&lt;br /&gt;Yes it would; and for most people out there I would argue
that this is what marriage currently means for them. It is an expression of
their desires and their emotions; of their feelings toward those they love. Ask
someone why they got married, or want to get married, and I guarantee that the vast
majority will mention the word ‘love’ before they do the impersonal term
‘procreate’.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;Let Christians have Christian marriages by all means, but
don’t seek to ban others from expressing their love because it hurts your own
personal definition of marriage. After all, those who want to marry for
procreative means are free to do so, and allowing gays and non-Christian
heterosexuals to marry for love isn’t going to hamper anyone’s desire to go
forth and multiply.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;At the end of the day we are not even arguing about the
legitimacy of same sex relationships anymore; as a society we accept this as normal.
However in a vain attempt to exclude same sex couple from their exclusive club,
we instead find ourselves arguing about trivial definitions. Above I have
outlined a brief argument as to why marriage should be defined by love, whereas
the opposition seems to think it should be based on the act of procreation. My
proposal would include both subsets, the opposition’s seeks to exclude a group
of people simply because they can’t procreate. Which seems fairer?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;Mathew Morton&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;Ballarat&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Again, I can’t help but note the apparent dissonance &amp;nbsp;expressed by opponent of gay marriage, and how
I believe Australians on average view the institution. So rarely is the word
love even used by these opponents that you begin to wonder if this is a
conscious effort. Have they realised that they have lost the battle as to
whether homosexual love is genuine love, and thus want to distance the act of
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Then there is this lovely little gem written by Courier
regular Anniemee in response &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/1459677/marriage-is-about-love-not-natural-order/?cs=65#disqus_thread&quot;&gt;to
a Doctors comment&lt;/a&gt; that marriage is a social institution, free to change and
reflect society’s views about love:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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“Well Dr Robert Watson, that is the most stupid comment I&#39;ve
ever read. I don&#39;t agree with much Fr B McGrath says, as I&#39;m not a Catholic,
but as far as life is concerned &#39;Marriage&#39; is about procreation! AND it&#39;s great
that we can choose the love of our life who we want to procreate with in this
country.&lt;br /&gt; I love my neighbour, but I will not procreate with him. I
love my children, but will not procreate with them.&lt;br /&gt; What an uneducated nonsense you spout here. What are you
thinking? You need to go a little further than your own distorted mind to find
the answer. It sounds like you are in a same sex relationship and are looking
to justify this in your own conscience. Hey, I love my Dog too, perhaps we
should all marry the pets we love. Please Courier, print this for the Doctor.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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All this mind you in response to this brief comment:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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“FR Bernard McGrath states (The Courier, April 16) that
marriage is based in the &#39;natural order of procreation&#39;.&lt;br /&gt;I suggest that marriage is a social construct that has been
created by humans. As we created the construct, therefore we can change it.
Love is love and it should be at the heart of any marriage.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Again, I was compelled to respond, and you can see that
response at the website if you have nothing better to do, however I think it
worth noting the truly warped way that gay marriage is being opposed in these
forums.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Here again we find someone arguing actively that love has
nothing to do with marriage, only the act of procreation is paramount. Sure you
can love your spouse, but if you aren’t willing to procreate with them, then you
have no business marrying them. Indeed this commenter fails to make any
distinction between the love she has for animals and neighbours, and the love
she has for a spouse, beyond the act of procreation. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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In her view the only difference between the relationship she
has with a dog, versus that of a husband, is that she can procreate with one,
and not the other.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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There seems an obvious dishonesty in these arguments. I don’t
doubt for a second that those arguing for marriage basis in procreation would
also argue that the love they have for their spouse, and the relationship it
forms, is quantitatively different to other forms of love and relationship. This
unique relationship and love is what marriage should symbolise, not the intersection
of love and procreative viability.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Rant complete&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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MM&lt;/div&gt;
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But hey; its not like that&amp;nbsp;isn&#39;t&amp;nbsp;worth&amp;nbsp;knowing&amp;nbsp;is it? I mean,&amp;nbsp;isn&#39;t&amp;nbsp;that what &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_marley#Final_years_and_death&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Bob Marley&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Daniel&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Jack Daniel&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;died from? Kind of anyway......&lt;br /&gt;
Think about it.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=6791981228932832440&quot; name=&quot;_GoBack&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;[Warning: This is a ‘rantish wordy’ post,
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Earlier I wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/a-brief-post-on-demon-sex-turning-you.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;a quick post&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;about some fundamentalist
loonies blaming demon sex as the cause of some people’s homosexuality. While I
think it is easy to dismiss these particular arguments as the unfounded and misguided
sputum that they are, it nevertheless got me thinking about how often demons
are genuinely invoked as having an effect on people in the real world.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Like many of the things that I object to in religious thinking,
the idea of demons as an explanation for any problems we have appears too easy
and convenient an answer. It seem to clearly human in its motivation. &lt;span style=&quot;background: white; mso-shading-themecolor: background1;&quot;&gt;Sure this kind of
explanation may have held water when our species lived in the ignorance of the
Bronze Ages, much like how gods could be invoked to explain thunder; because we
didn’t know any better, and it was easier.&lt;/span&gt; These days however, relying
on such external agents as demons to explain away personal struggles and mental
problems is just a cop out.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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You see this all the time when people talk about battling their
demons, whether it be in the form of alcoholism, depression, or any other
negative aspects of their lives. It is a handy way of making it seem like the
problem you are having isn’t something intrinsic to you, but rather something
happening to you. In this sense it isn’t your fault.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Doing this you effectively externalise your problems, and can even
further romanticise this by calling the process a struggle. It allows a certain
level of detachment from responsibility, and can also make the whole thing seem
less futile. To some, battling a demon is something that can be won, whereas
dealing with an inherent problem within yourself can seem like an impossible
task.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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To a certain extent, these externalisations are not all bad
things; however I think this approach gets more wrong, than it does right. This
demopomorphising (can I copyright that term?) of ones problems can actually
make a lot of sense when you consider the fact that in many cases, these are
things that are simply beyond our control. We don’t choose to be depressed, nor
do we choose in the strictest sense to be alcoholics.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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In many instances things like mental illnesses are a fact of life, and so they
can in effect take on the same attributes as some mysterious external force
acting upon us.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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But I can’t help feel that it is much better to accept that these
forces which are external to us can nevertheless be contained entirely within
our physical body, and that they don’t require a supernatural explanation. Our
brain can work against us, without our consent, or knowledge, and bring about
conditions that affect who we are, without necessarily having to be considered
an intrinsic part of who we are.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Of course I realise that many instances of evoking demon battling
is done in a purely figurative manner. It is however important to realise that
a good deal of the public actually do believe in demons actively influencing people’s
lives in the literal sense. And there are the more amorphous concepts of demons
out there that others adopt.&amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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A man I previously worked with surprised me one night by revealing
that he was a Buddhist. I had heard there were many around these days, but to
have a live one in front of me seemed like quite an occasion. Much like when I
manage to find a real Christian amongst the throng of unbelievers, and even though
I know that Australia is apparently rife with them, they so seldom make their
presence known.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Anyway, this real life Buddhist co-worker replied in the
affirmative when I asked him if he believed in demons, as I had heard many
Buddhists do. As I prepared to place my arguing hat on, and steeled myself for
a rhetorical battle to defend reason, I was slightly dismayed when he explained
that these demons weren’t supernatural beings. “It’s more like accepting that
alcoholism is something that can affect all our brains, it’s something that we
are all susceptible to.&amp;nbsp; There are others too; other things which can
affect us negatively in similar ways. And these things are also like demons”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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While this explanation doesn’t really sit quite well with me, it
was nevertheless a more rational response that I was used to hearing.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Fine, I suppose if you want to refer to these negative aspects of
the human condition as demons, I guess I can’t stop you.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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But at the end of the day it still seems to me that to describe
these negative aspects of our lives as demons just adds unnecessary nomenclature
to the situations, which muddies up the waters. Similar to the folly of an
atheist talking of the &lt;i&gt;soul&lt;/i&gt;, when
what they are really just referring to is their inner convictions or mind. Or
when people invoke the analogy of ones heart as the seat of their emotions,
rather than a muscle to pump blood. Just cut out the superfluous terms and
stick to more direct explanations, it often will not only lead to less
confusion, but also give a more accurate understanding of what is really at
play.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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I think Douglas Adams made a fine point of it when he remarked on
one of his own mental quibbles, in this instance lacking confidence;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&quot;I have terrible periods of lack of confidence [..] I briefly
did therapy, but after a while I realised it was like a farmer complaining
about the weather. You can&#39;t fix the weather – you just have to get on with it&quot;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Mental problems are things to be dealt with as best we can. They
generally aren’t there due to any fault of the person in question, nor are they
there for some esoteric religious or mythological sense. They just are.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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To try and pin meaning, or intent, onto the things that befall us
leads to confusion, halts any real and effective treatment, and places blame in
all the wrong places.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Of course this is all just my opinion, and I have absolutely no
grounding in any of the relevant sciences in order to make these statements
with even the ghost of authority (an I realise that I kind of ended up aiming
this rant in the direction of mental illnesses). But hell; isn’t this what the
internet is for?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Let me know your thoughts in the comments, particularly if anyone
out there has any actual expertise in this area (if this even is an area one
can be expert in).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Cheers,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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MM&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/104279718081191731/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/11/on-using-demons-to-explain-personal.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/104279718081191731'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/104279718081191731'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/11/on-using-demons-to-explain-personal.html' title='On Using Demons to Explain Personal Struggles'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-324718802359102761</id><published>2012-11-29T11:02:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2012-11-29T12:19:00.642+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christianity"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="homosexuality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="religion"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Uganda"/><title type='text'>A Brief Post on Demon Sex Turning You Gay</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Sometimes I hate the catchy brevity of news article headlines as they attempt to surmise their points in as few words as possible, often to the detriment of the English language. Other times however, I really enjoy the stark contrasts they can bring about. Take today’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/2012/11/26/christian_group_says_demon_sex_makes_you_gay/&quot;&gt;article of interest&lt;/a&gt; for example:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;“Christian group says demon sex makes you gay”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;I love how simple it makes the whole prospect seem, and how well it highlights the inherent absurdity of the claim. Though perhaps I must also caution myself against forming an opinion too rashly; after all they might have some good points backing this claim up if one looks at their argument in its entirety.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Then there is the subheading:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;“A Christian magazine warns that homosexuality is caused by sex with succubi -- and that&#39;s just the beginning”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghuFB_NfLbAX2PaIHTAIg29z5bJ6xN_rNGapCYYnPUfeo62oWDzZUhguTiFrIKg41OpBSN3YtZWsrSS1uQFgSvlqswh-GUWihDtN1MfN5ZyVuY8AAjFHWHZqlelk-VGYlh7NFr5OMTQSE/s640/blogger-image-1328330770.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;150&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghuFB_NfLbAX2PaIHTAIg29z5bJ6xN_rNGapCYYnPUfeo62oWDzZUhguTiFrIKg41OpBSN3YtZWsrSS1uQFgSvlqswh-GUWihDtN1MfN5ZyVuY8AAjFHWHZqlelk-VGYlh7NFr5OMTQSE/s200/blogger-image-1328330770.jpg&quot; width=&quot;200&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;I guess this could conceivably turn you off women...&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Well I suppose I was right in that there is more to it,though I had hoped for something more than just specifying which type of non-existent being could turn your straight parts bent.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;To be fair, the article I read was based on an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.charismamag.com/spirit/spiritual-warfare/15889-can-you-be-raped-by-the-devil&quot;&gt;article from a Christian magazine&lt;/a&gt; whose preface to the story in question began with the proposition “Can demons engage in sexual behaviors with humans?”. So at least they had the pretence of scepticism present (even if it is only in their headline).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;The article quickly goes on to assert that yes these things can happen, and quote Contessa Adams, a former stripper and now minister, who herself battled with demons (literally, she would have us believe; not figuratively) which threatened to turn her into, of all things, a lesbian.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjSKqljT8JRm1j86k2niRSF9KNA-IUzfL4tej4olSr_thlnLrH1mbZRqntYVgOybkcN7Glova7riFht8cUnmx9nxPR8waN5LXld8o4Qhla3UPAh18mxLXc9HkK89noSyfH3rfpWuLEfsRI/s640/blogger-image--1670681344.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;200&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjSKqljT8JRm1j86k2niRSF9KNA-IUzfL4tej4olSr_thlnLrH1mbZRqntYVgOybkcN7Glova7riFht8cUnmx9nxPR8waN5LXld8o4Qhla3UPAh18mxLXc9HkK89noSyfH3rfpWuLEfsRI/s200/blogger-image--1670681344.jpg&quot; width=&quot;197&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Admit it, after reading the name Contessa Adams, this is who you pictured&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Indeed Contessa was once possessed by sexual demons (which apparently isn’t as fun as it sounds), and was quoted as saying “Anybody that has been attacked by them will tell you … they’re worried [that] they could not find that pleasure with mortal people,” If anything, it reminds me of the first season of True Blood, when we discover that not only are vampires real, but they are apparently adept at showing mortals quite a good time.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXLADOX3C7Z9GbGMSsYURWg79wjUe1QvQHuWeJZkdpS9x2QhjN6qoIjAPkkL6roR3082y_WkGahTMiRgm-P0cY_QSr8DLPpTv3hEqPXqzKiZgXPhsAFdDUjrjgOB4tnkP8WEfW6oRb6y0/s640/blogger-image--569374360.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;225&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXLADOX3C7Z9GbGMSsYURWg79wjUe1QvQHuWeJZkdpS9x2QhjN6qoIjAPkkL6roR3082y_WkGahTMiRgm-P0cY_QSr8DLPpTv3hEqPXqzKiZgXPhsAFdDUjrjgOB4tnkP8WEfW6oRb6y0/s400/blogger-image--569374360.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;An actual billboard for true Blood in New Zealand. Sums up the show quite nicely.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Seriously though, it is worth noting that the group of extreme American Christians who believe in demons stalking the land to turn people homosexual are the same group that encourage and fund the current homicidal regime intention &lt;a href=&quot;http://richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2012/11/13/uganda-to-pass-anti-gay-law-as-christmas-gift&quot;&gt;killing gays in Uganda&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/324718802359102761/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/11/a-brief-post-on-demon-sex-turning-you.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/324718802359102761'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/324718802359102761'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/11/a-brief-post-on-demon-sex-turning-you.html' title='A Brief Post on Demon Sex Turning You Gay'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghuFB_NfLbAX2PaIHTAIg29z5bJ6xN_rNGapCYYnPUfeo62oWDzZUhguTiFrIKg41OpBSN3YtZWsrSS1uQFgSvlqswh-GUWihDtN1MfN5ZyVuY8AAjFHWHZqlelk-VGYlh7NFr5OMTQSE/s72-c/blogger-image-1328330770.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-6338278826109393055</id><published>2012-10-25T15:50:00.003+11:00</published><updated>2012-10-25T15:50:44.161+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="abortion"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christianity"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="christians"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="crazy"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="destiny"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="God"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="gods"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="rape"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="religion"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Republicans"/><title type='text'>On Republican Gaffes, God Sanctioned Rape, and the Dangers of Divine Plans</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
Well what do you know, another month goes by, and another Republican
politician in the United States confounds the public with his views on rape.
Last time it was Todd Akin who &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-22/todd-akin-asks-for-forgiveness-over-rape-comments/4214290&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;showed his ignorance&lt;/a&gt; of human physiology when he
asserted that women physically cannot fall pregnant if it is ‘legitimate rape’,
which then has people wondering what the corollary to this term could possibly
be (illegitimate rape?). This time we have Richard Mourdock from Indiana, who dropped
this interesting quote&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-25/romney-distances-himself-from-candidates-rape-remarks/4332540&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; during a debate&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
“I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realise that life is that gift from God, and I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something God intended to happen.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Mourdock is an anti-abortion candidate, which is an odd
enough concept that begs us to consider the converse side; a pro-abortion
candidate. But in this instance he was outlining why he believes that abortions
performed after rape should be outlawed, and the only time such procedures be
allowed is when the mother’s life is in jeopardy.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Now I find the abortion issue to be a contentious one at the
best of times, but moving past the inherent grey areas that this inevitably
invokes, I can’t help but think that the backlash faced by Mourdock because of
his words is a somewhat undeserved and hypocritical reaction by a lot of
people who would generally consider themselves a Christian.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Don’t get me wrong here; I think that the idea of a
divinely sanctioned rape reaches for the heights of absurdity. But that being
said, the view he is expressing is far from inconsistent with mainstream Christians
thought.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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How many times, upon hearing some bad news, or even in
general discussions with Christians, do you hear the plan of a god invoked as
the ersatz explanation. We may find it hard to face the capricious nature of
things such as cancer striking down people seemingly at random, and thus hope
to find solace in some reason for this happening. But the fact of the matter is
that some things in this world are not only beyond our control, but also beyond
meaningful interpretation.&lt;br /&gt;
By this I mean that not everything has a purpose,
and though it might seem easier to bear the hand that life has dealt us if we
are willing to take on faith that everything has a purpose, this view not only
has the bulk of history working against it (why I ask you was&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;the
holocaust &lt;i&gt;necessary&lt;/i&gt;?), but it also
has a lot of dangerous implications.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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If you do take the view that a god does have a plan, and
that we are all slowly meandering through life on paths set in advance by the
almighty, then you have to accept the full implications of this position. If
there is a plan, then things such as rape, cancer, murder, the holocaust and so
on; all these things must be a part of this plan. After all, if they weren’t a
part of the plan, then surely they would have had a massive &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;butterfly effect&lt;/a&gt; on
things by now.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Not only do I find the divine plan way of thinking unsatisfactory,
and uncaring, but I also see the inherent dangers in living your life on what
is essentially an amusement park ride; where you have no control, and are just
along for the trip.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Something that can be used to retroactively permit and
explain any action can also be used in the present to justify any future
actions. This is where the danger lies. Accepting things that have happened as
a part of a god’s plan strips you of any responsibility of your own; it leads
to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatalism&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;fatalism&lt;/a&gt;, and to an acceptance of whatever situations arise.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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The idea of a divine plan is untenable at the best of times,
and dangerous at the worst. It can offer consolation, but as we have seen in
the case of Mr Mourdock, it can also offer a twisted sense of justification and
acceptance after the fact.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Let me know what you think in the comments, especially if
you are a Christian (or otherwise) who hold to the view that everything happens
for a reason.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Cheers,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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MM&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/6338278826109393055/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/10/on-republican-gaffes-god-sanctioned.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/6338278826109393055'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/6338278826109393055'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/10/on-republican-gaffes-god-sanctioned.html' title='On Republican Gaffes, God Sanctioned Rape, and the Dangers of Divine Plans'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-1529943704223566544</id><published>2012-10-19T14:11:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2012-10-19T14:11:28.827+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="animals"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="dad"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="DadTip"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="dog"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="evolution"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="family"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="father"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Harrison"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="parenting"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="science"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="son"/><title type='text'>Dad Tip: Teaching Evolution</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;i&gt;[I am thinking this
will be a semi-regular thing on my blog now. Sure I am not the greatest Dad in
the world, and my experience is limited to a single son; but at the end of the
day every little step along the way is an important one, and perhaps some of my
experiences will have merit beyond my own doorstep. Let me know what you think
in the comments below.]&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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In my six odd years of having a son, I have discovered that
one of the hardest things to try and explain to him is the concept of evolution.
I see this as a bit of a problem, as being a dinosaur nut like his old man,
evolution is vital to his understanding of these creatures. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh4u54H1hvTyF2qEcEnI24le0nGrUEK2G3oDNH866x4GF9v9Z7ha-fo9oYFr0BFFtd3C3aronC0osHWA5MStm8Q1R2iaUCGJT0H2oRUQQbYLkoEME6ZXVFE-1iQK4ufl57AZwWvYmMGbQM/s1600/IMG_5507.JPG&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh4u54H1hvTyF2qEcEnI24le0nGrUEK2G3oDNH866x4GF9v9Z7ha-fo9oYFr0BFFtd3C3aronC0osHWA5MStm8Q1R2iaUCGJT0H2oRUQQbYLkoEME6ZXVFE-1iQK4ufl57AZwWvYmMGbQM/s320/IMG_5507.JPG&quot; width=&quot;240&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;From our recent trip to the Melbourne Museum, where Harrison could finally tell me most of his favourite dinosaur&#39;s names. #DadPride&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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This problem can be doubly difficult because at its most
basic level, the theory of evolution is a very simple concept, however it relies
on a lot of concepts and grounding that is just out of reach of young children.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Saying to your child that evolution is how animals change
over time to adapt to their surroundings can lead to a lot of misunderstandings
of how exactly they change, and how they adapt. I often found myself getting exasperated
trying to explain through simple examples such as a giraffes neck; explaining
how having a longer neck helps them reach higher food, but then being sure to
stress that the individual didn’t get a longer neck because they want one, but
that their children, if born with a slightly longer neck, will pass that trait
on down.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Before you know it, your explanation has gone on longer than
you wanted it to, and has included too many new words and concepts for your
child to really stick to the point.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Don’t get me wrong, my son is one bright kid. Ask him what
light is made of and he has two answers; a joke one (light is made from torches),
and the real one (light is made of photons). It is just that getting kids’
minds to work on the scale of evolution takes a lot of mental effort on their
part. Kids very rarely want to think of the consequences of their actions
beyond the days play, let alone the consequences of animal’s actions across the
generations.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
Over the years my son’s understanding of the natural world has
progressed quite well, and I am very proud when he talks about biological
features as evolved, and ponders what their purpose is in helping the animal
survive. But it was just the other day when we were discussing evolution (yes
this is what my son and I do sometimes) that I hit on a better way to explain
it to him.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
I don’t quite recall how we got onto the subject, but I
shocked Harry by telling him that our dog was descendant from wolves. Now
perhaps this isn’t the most surprising fact for a child, but consider my dogs
appearance:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjX2Bx9Vs9bZ-kwyfFddmEMe48asE8POenNUp4r8lvgy-kWTmRyOPGb8hR-3WLJnkG7ExZBC2w3Rlgj9Tn8UmIn_ylAR6NRlzosMZQhodbZMLls14kF8zWDFsl2UQta4ihi2Zh1ygKQ5T4/s1600/IMG_5297%5B1%5D.JPG&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjX2Bx9Vs9bZ-kwyfFddmEMe48asE8POenNUp4r8lvgy-kWTmRyOPGb8hR-3WLJnkG7ExZBC2w3Rlgj9Tn8UmIn_ylAR6NRlzosMZQhodbZMLls14kF8zWDFsl2UQta4ihi2Zh1ygKQ5T4/s320/IMG_5297%5B1%5D.JPG&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;This is why when i write of my dog, i often put inverted commas around the word &#39;dog&#39;....&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;“&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;That’s&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; a wolf?!” He exclaimed (with an inflection well worthy of an&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrobang&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;interrobang&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
I explained that back when man was still living somewhat in
the wild, we domesticated wolves for companionship and to help make our lives
easier.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
I reminded him that a lot of traits in animals can be
inherited from their parents (he is aware that he got half his DNA from me, and
the other half from my wife, but luckily he hasn’t asked how they got mixed
yet…), then asked him what would happen if we picked the ‘nicest’ wolves, got
them to have babies, and then keep picking the nicer, friendlier, ones to have
around us. He was pretty quick in understanding how these traits could be
selected, and bred into the population. It was working a treat. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
Next example I used was the domestication of the cow. I
explained how we domesticated them from Aurochs, creatures that were twice as
big, and quite nasty customers. Picking the smaller, more docile ones each time
and having only those in your paddock, I was able to show how this selection
can likewise change a population over time.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
Perhaps I should have caught onto utilising artificial
selection as a way of explaining this long ago after all Charles Darwin, the great man
himself, used this introduction to his theory of evolution in &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com.au/books?id=P-QEAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;ots=nHbKfRFeve&amp;amp;dq=editions%3AF-5RtFYnuw0C&amp;amp;pg=PA14#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;On the Origin of Species&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Once this fundamental concept is understood, it is pretty
easy to cross from artificial, to natural selection. All that has to be
explained then it how animals in the wild aren’t selected by people because of
the traits they want to propagate, but instead the individuals are ‘selected’
by nature, because they are the ones that survive better and have more kids.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
It is a great feeling to see that you have successfully explained
something to your kids, when you see that little click of comprehension, and
the pride they feel having learnt something new. The only thing that worries me
now is that he is garnering all of this information at a rate that much exceeded
my own at his age. If our generation isn’t careful, these guys will be taking
over in twenty to thirty years……&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
MM&lt;/div&gt;
</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/1529943704223566544/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/10/dad-tip-teaching-evolution.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/1529943704223566544'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/1529943704223566544'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/10/dad-tip-teaching-evolution.html' title='Dad Tip: Teaching Evolution'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh4u54H1hvTyF2qEcEnI24le0nGrUEK2G3oDNH866x4GF9v9Z7ha-fo9oYFr0BFFtd3C3aronC0osHWA5MStm8Q1R2iaUCGJT0H2oRUQQbYLkoEME6ZXVFE-1iQK4ufl57AZwWvYmMGbQM/s72-c/IMG_5507.JPG" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-4271224576751980310</id><published>2012-10-16T23:23:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2012-10-16T23:23:16.919+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="blogging"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="NaNoWriMo"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="philosophy"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="writing"/><title type='text'>Write What You Know</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjyiegTKUMUpvYpSxETTeRu5r_SxXhVkTSXcbWgaRtABhPLU4FLdoXTt3wJzYTVigcIrjCo01G_wUN2Gnqmlwl97D_fI0vzV6twGm2a_5EUb-SHc36qrr6gftsrhbmbr9iKLEH_KJwyg6c/s1600/457-stick-computer-typing-blood-ang.gif&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjyiegTKUMUpvYpSxETTeRu5r_SxXhVkTSXcbWgaRtABhPLU4FLdoXTt3wJzYTVigcIrjCo01G_wUN2Gnqmlwl97D_fI0vzV6twGm2a_5EUb-SHc36qrr6gftsrhbmbr9iKLEH_KJwyg6c/s1600/457-stick-computer-typing-blood-ang.gif&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Write what you know. This is often advice given to people
who want to write, but don’t quite know where to start. Some may have ambition
to spare, but can’t quite get things rolling, or when they do, they find it
careening off in a direction that they are unhappy with. To write what one
knows is supposed to help corral ones prose into a direction that they can
competently remark on, and give a detailed, and hopefully cogent, piece of
writing at the end of the day.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
This, like many things, is all good in theory.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
I love writing, and I want to write more and more as the
days go on. I find myself in the curious situation of wanting to write, and (I
think) improving my writing every day, and yet I have nothing to write about. I
am not in school or university anymore, I don’t have a job that requires me to
utilise any of the things I have been learning about the proper application of
the English language (indeed, I have been told to tone down my use of ‘big
words’, lest people don’t know what I am talking about).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
So in the past when I didn’t want to write, I had essays
demanded of me. Yet now when I have a desire to put pen to paper (or finger to
keyboard), I have an annoying lack of venues to expend this on.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
That is of course, how things look on the outside. Luckily
for me, there is this wonderful thing we call the internet, and the
proliferation of tools now available to help me write and put my words out
there, regardless of the lack of interest, and lonesome chirping of crickets
that await me.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
But again I face the conundrum of what to write.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
So far I have managed to fill the page with three hundred
words of blather, yet a growing word count doesn’t give the same sense of
satisfaction as it did in the old days, when I judged my writing solely on its ability
to reach the teachers prescribed word limit. Now I want my writing to have a
purpose.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
So I fall back on to the mantra of writing what I know, only
to realise that like a more true to the point Socrates, I know next to nothing.
I am aware of the limitations of my knowledge, but this awareness doesn’t
really offer any further avenues for me to traipse down.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
I know a little about a lot of things, but there are a lot
of things I know little about. Two statements that appear very similar, but paint
contrasting pictures.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
Perhaps this is why for &lt;a href=&quot;http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/nanowrimo-looking-back-on-my-experience.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;my last NaNoWriMo&lt;/a&gt; I focused on a
science fiction setting. True there can be a lot of reality packed into such tales;
they are after all generally populated by people, with the same virtues and
vices known to us. But at the end of the day if you are so inclined you can
cram your story full of spaceships, robots and other such distractions in order
to invent your own field of expertise. In this sense it is now only important
to know what you write, as once thing that is paramount for such self-contained
and speculative worlds is a firm sense of consistency.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
And so, with my ersatz relaunching of this blog the past day,
I will seize this opportunity to refocus the purpose of my blog more
explicitly. It is not just an outlet for my thoughts, or a place that I can
share some latest news story with my unqualified opinion. Rather it is a place
for me to indulge in my passion for writing, and hopefully to help me find what
it is I should be writing about.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
Thus I am taking a somewhat converse and convoluted position
from the title of this post; I am writing in order to find out what I know, so
that I can write more effectively.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
I hope this will be in some way enjoyable for you too valued
reader, and look forward to hearing from you, should the need arise.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Cheers,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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MM&lt;/div&gt;
</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/4271224576751980310/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/10/write-what-you-know.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/4271224576751980310'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/4271224576751980310'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/10/write-what-you-know.html' title='Write What You Know'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjyiegTKUMUpvYpSxETTeRu5r_SxXhVkTSXcbWgaRtABhPLU4FLdoXTt3wJzYTVigcIrjCo01G_wUN2Gnqmlwl97D_fI0vzV6twGm2a_5EUb-SHc36qrr6gftsrhbmbr9iKLEH_KJwyg6c/s72-c/457-stick-computer-typing-blood-ang.gif" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-2894917386350480317</id><published>2012-10-15T10:10:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2012-10-15T10:10:08.619+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="blogging"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="me"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="rant"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="reflections"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="writing"/><title type='text'>Here It Goes Again</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, this was quite a hiatus for me from the world of
blogging. It has been a tumultuous time of late, working two jobs for a while,
buying a house, and so on. And sometimes once you have broken the chain, it is
hard to but the links back together again, so for a while I gave up on updating
this blog. Slowly the postless days turned into weeks, and the weeks into
months, until before you knew it I had gone five months without a single post
springing forth from my clumsy fingers.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Sure I had material along the way, and wrote some half-arsed
posts on the new Spiderman film, or our recent robotic mission to Mars (yes
NASA, take that; I am claiming everything you do for humanity as a whole), but
none of it ever manifested as an actual resolve to posting.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Slowly I began to lament my lack of blogging, and worse yet,
I realised that whenever I did post next, I would have to explain my absence (which
I recall doing multiple times in the past; not a good sign). Not only that, but
my first post back should surely be a momentous one; one to distract from my
previous neglect. And so I was further dissuaded from posting by my own
eccentricities, but then today I had an epiphany.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Who cares?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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My blog isn’t really that important, hell it isn’t even that
good; it’s just my inner musings, distorted and extracted from my mind by my
novice writing abilities for the public to see (but for most of them to ignore
entirely). So why was I bothering to worry about the reception my new posts
received?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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The important thing after falling off a horse isn’t to vault
back on Cossack style it’s just to get back on the damn thing, no matter the
fashion.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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So here I am, dusting off the reins, and strapping myself
back in.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Hopefully some of you out there are looking forward to this,
perhaps you enjoyed my posts in the past, and as I had no real talent or
expertise to let wane over my absence, you can be assured that the same quality
(or lack of it) will remain in future posts.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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I’m looking forward to it.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Cheers,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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MM&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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[Interesting sidenote: During my hiatus I was still getting
around 15 daily views of my blog, so if anything at least this break has
provided me with a nice benchmark to winkle out the bot visits, and focus on
the people really drawn to my musings.]&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/2894917386350480317/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/10/here-it-goes-again.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/2894917386350480317'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/2894917386350480317'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/10/here-it-goes-again.html' title='Here It Goes Again'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-554964327409234921</id><published>2012-05-15T19:07:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2012-05-15T19:07:30.309+10:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Catholic Church"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="George Pell"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="offense"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="religion"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="twitter"/><title type='text'>Preparing Young English Boys, and Lawsuits</title><content type='html'>Some of you may remember this little meme from &lt;a href=&quot;http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/dawkins-v-pell-my-commentary.html&quot;&gt;a previous post of mine&lt;/a&gt; that found its way astonishingly quickly onto the internet after the Dawkins/Pell ‘debate’ on the cusp of this year’s Global Atheist Convention.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhooTI0LQiejogFSypY8gws4AB-mKA3N813Z4CrMsqcW9BZvpJnr7LujdHenKwgX0cO8laCu1w5zv_0Waw-yvv1APpXchmXHr2hyphenhyphenYSpMI0QQkAMJ3wz9iT-n3fXsjyAQyGUmpguT_v_Xw/s1600/Pell+meme2.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhooTI0LQiejogFSypY8gws4AB-mKA3N813Z4CrMsqcW9BZvpJnr7LujdHenKwgX0cO8laCu1w5zv_0Waw-yvv1APpXchmXHr2hyphenhyphenYSpMI0QQkAMJ3wz9iT-n3fXsjyAQyGUmpguT_v_Xw/s320/Pell+meme2.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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[Before I go on here, just a quick note to point out that though I previously indicated my mate Sam Dekok as the originator of this meme, he was merely an agent through which this cultural gene proliferated. Considering the furore created by these thin skinned, lawyered up believers, I thought it might be worth mentioning on here.]&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I am reiterating this because apparently the innocuous piece of photoshop didn’t escape the attention of Mr Pell, who promptly threatened to sue Twitter for defamation and loss of reputation, after comedian Catherine Deveny tweeted a link to the &#39;offending&#39; image. As if his own performance on the night, whether it be questioning the intellectual capacity of ancient Jews, or stating that man evolved from Neanderthals, didn’t do more harm to his reputation.&lt;br /&gt;
Now my opinion of people hiding behind the ability to take offense at anything they are opposed to has been &lt;a href=&quot;http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com.au/search/label/offense&quot;&gt;well documented on here&lt;/a&gt;, but I&amp;nbsp;couldn&#39;t&amp;nbsp;help writing a quick rant in&amp;nbsp;response&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;this.&lt;br /&gt;
The theory behind Pell&#39;s litigious paroxysm is that the aforementioned image suggested either that Pell was a paedophile himself, or that he was complicit in the sexual abuse of children.&amp;nbsp;One would think that given the state of affairs in the Catholic Church at the moment, Pell’s mere mention of involvement with children is suspect enough, and that any overt&amp;nbsp;suggestions&amp;nbsp;of a link, are only there to highlight the preexisting connection between the Catholic Church and child abuse.&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps it is worth noting here that I am not insinuating that all Catholic clergy are latent abusers; I am just pointing out that the link between Catholic Clergy and the abuse (let’s call it what it is; rape) of children is so&amp;nbsp;ingrained&amp;nbsp;in the public conscious to the point that one hardly needs to remind people explicitly of this connection.&lt;br /&gt;
But you have to wonder how it could get to the point where one party can be threatened with legal action simply for redistributing something that another party said, regardless of if it was a mere snippet of the original, and could be taken out of context.&lt;br /&gt;
I mean, wouldn’t the joke work pretty much the same even if the ‘for communion’ kicker were thrown in? After all, the joke does not rely on the omission of the communion part of the anecdote in order to get its laughs. Rather it simply rests upon the dubious notion of Catholic priests ‘preparing’ children in any circumstances. The verb ‘prepare’ is not where the negative association lies, nor would the supposedly slanderous implications inherent in this half quote somehow be negated by the addition of the boys being prepared ‘for communion’. Instead, the Catholic Church takes the brunt of the irony in this situation, as the unfortunate state of affairs at the moment mean that the mere mention of Catholic clergy, in particular around children, inevitably brings about the notion of abuse.&lt;br /&gt;
And with good reason.&lt;br /&gt;
If Pell and his cronies don’t want to have their religion and its employees associated with such slanderous possibilities, then perhaps they should reconsider policies that have not only helped to cover up abuse in the past, but which also facilitate further abuse and the circumvention of justice, by knowingly ferrying rapists across the country.&lt;br /&gt;
Just a quick rant tonight.&lt;br /&gt;
MM</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/554964327409234921/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/05/preparing-young-english-boys-and.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/554964327409234921'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/554964327409234921'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/05/preparing-young-english-boys-and.html' title='Preparing Young English Boys, and Lawsuits'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhooTI0LQiejogFSypY8gws4AB-mKA3N813Z4CrMsqcW9BZvpJnr7LujdHenKwgX0cO8laCu1w5zv_0Waw-yvv1APpXchmXHr2hyphenhyphenYSpMI0QQkAMJ3wz9iT-n3fXsjyAQyGUmpguT_v_Xw/s72-c/Pell+meme2.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-6624363310183818112</id><published>2012-05-08T20:02:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2012-05-08T20:02:16.921+10:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Encyclopaedia"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Harrison"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="interesting"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="internet"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Wikipedia"/><title type='text'>No More Encyclopaedias</title><content type='html'>Quick, when I mention the word Encyclopaedia, what brand springs to mind? Depending on how recently you were born I would wager that you
either said Encyclopaedia Britannica, or else &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;. True there may also
have been some Encartas thrown in there, or if you are like me, a reference to
good old Funk and Wagnall’s. But chances are that Encyclopaedia Britannica, once
considered the epitome of condensed and categorised knowledge, was the first brand to
spring to mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhcfFx60PDkTX1d7kgFGhMN0Mgg2EhHfrxZVLXtba38BzYoywvhZ4G9KYf4zBllYWbVsXcraaKVrCd5CaS_8ay5H4mtlk_QRCShAapvz1O7iBUTosA1kjiWh1iLIjmAtm89YzlKqrxOimY/s1600/encyclopedia-encyclopaedia-britannica.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;180&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhcfFx60PDkTX1d7kgFGhMN0Mgg2EhHfrxZVLXtba38BzYoywvhZ4G9KYf4zBllYWbVsXcraaKVrCd5CaS_8ay5H4mtlk_QRCShAapvz1O7iBUTosA1kjiWh1iLIjmAtm89YzlKqrxOimY/s320/encyclopedia-encyclopaedia-britannica.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;It bugs me that this image has disorganised books a little too much....&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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But the times have changed. To those of you who have only
just discovered the internet and this so-called information revolution (there might be some of you out there), it may
shock you to discover that electronic mediums are slowly replacing many forms
of physical ones. However, to the rest of us living in the modern world, this
has long been an accepted turn of affairs. The latest casualty of this natural
progression is the aforementioned repository of earthly knowledge.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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That&#39;s right, the last edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica, edition 15 which was printed in 2010, will indeed
be just that; the last one ever printed.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdDRhppoUsQ1sJsMVLe4d1oAZrKe56maZ8uOizy4_0nYzU5k5npwUVQU_KDE6Im4yiNur9sFz6doE4LIgqdv7ye4IcnJnT5nErU4wzBBQJbQ5DkBaYWnfXz5piBzlvTe3hHuUaWzWGaeA/s1600/LOST-Series-Finale-590x393.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;213&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdDRhppoUsQ1sJsMVLe4d1oAZrKe56maZ8uOizy4_0nYzU5k5npwUVQU_KDE6Im4yiNur9sFz6doE4LIgqdv7ye4IcnJnT5nErU4wzBBQJbQ5DkBaYWnfXz5piBzlvTe3hHuUaWzWGaeA/s320/LOST-Series-Finale-590x393.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;2010 took both Britannica and Lost from us; it was a tough year.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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I feel a slight pang of nostalgia here, as having hailed
from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s&quot;&gt;days before the internet&lt;/a&gt; I fondly remember constantly flicking
through my parents Funk and Wagnall’s encyclopaedias, and searching for answers on a&amp;nbsp;variety&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;unrelated&amp;nbsp;questions. I
was a very curious child, and had the&amp;nbsp;questionably&amp;nbsp;endearing quality so often prized in
children of asking ‘why, why; why!’ of everyone until invariably I had to move
from reluctant and annoyed people, to amenable and complacent books.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8U4N_EI60gycv3UV-l4ms-Tlk6nXz9fA2uojOGvirDbgiMtf7flB63wSwlWx7_mjz894lQDyY3bX2MBkKWHJ21DIvy147uRVdakMnYE_EM1GPjIYAHhN8AGokE6-xpq0n14gFSAdj7Jk/s1600/7512ce6_20.jpeg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;240&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8U4N_EI60gycv3UV-l4ms-Tlk6nXz9fA2uojOGvirDbgiMtf7flB63wSwlWx7_mjz894lQDyY3bX2MBkKWHJ21DIvy147uRVdakMnYE_EM1GPjIYAHhN8AGokE6-xpq0n14gFSAdj7Jk/s320/7512ce6_20.jpeg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Ah books, you shall never call me annoying, nor implore&amp;nbsp;me to shut up.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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But all that being said, any sadness I feel at losing these
old physically bound books pales in comparison to the excitement (and thinly
veiled jealousy) I feel every time my son and I consult the internet, with its
vast catacombs of information, at his persistent (and I wish I could claim genetically inherited) requests of ‘why, why; why!’.
After all, things generally find themselves being replaced by more fitting
alternatives; such is the nature of progress. Who can deny that the new mediums
of computers, the internet, and a multitude of other connectable devices, have
far greater capacity for the advance of knowledge than the still admirable,
though wholly innovation saturated, physical books?&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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However Britannica lovers out there, do not despair; the
Encyclopaedia bearing its name isn’t disappearing entirely. The company responsible for its creation is simply doing the smart thing and embracing the
online frontier, with their focus now being delivering their lauded product in
the digital arena.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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At least the&amp;nbsp;ascension&amp;nbsp;of Wikipedia means that given we are looking at an Americanized (the &#39;z&#39; in there is on purpose)&amp;nbsp;information&amp;nbsp;source as the go to receptacle for this&amp;nbsp;generation, I won’t have to try and remember which order the &#39;a&#39;s and &#39;e&#39;s go in &#39;paedia&#39;.&lt;br /&gt;
MM&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/6624363310183818112/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/05/no-more-encyclopaedias.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/6624363310183818112'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/6624363310183818112'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/05/no-more-encyclopaedias.html' title='No More Encyclopaedias'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhcfFx60PDkTX1d7kgFGhMN0Mgg2EhHfrxZVLXtba38BzYoywvhZ4G9KYf4zBllYWbVsXcraaKVrCd5CaS_8ay5H4mtlk_QRCShAapvz1O7iBUTosA1kjiWh1iLIjmAtm89YzlKqrxOimY/s72-c/encyclopedia-encyclopaedia-britannica.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-990170120754382181</id><published>2012-04-24T21:45:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2012-04-24T21:45:14.127+10:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="cool"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Game of Thrones"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="interesting"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="people"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="random"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Tolkien"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="world"/><title type='text'>A little post on a littler man</title><content type='html'>Just a quick post here about something that recently blew my mind.&lt;br /&gt;
Meet&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_Bahadur_Dangi&quot;&gt;Chandra Bahadur Dangi&lt;/a&gt;, not only the new smallest man in the world today, but the smallest human being who has &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;lived (at least as far as our records go).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;546 mm tall!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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A full 25.5 mm shorter than the previous&amp;nbsp;claimant Gul Mohammed, Chandra&amp;nbsp;isn&#39;t&amp;nbsp;only smaller by a significant degree; he has managed to live a further 32 years longer than the previous record holder. Look at the image above; this man is in pretty good nick for a 72 year old!&lt;br /&gt;
Chandra is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primordial_dwarfism&quot;&gt;primordial dwarf&lt;/a&gt;, unlike one of my favourite actors at the moment, one &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Dinklage&quot;&gt;Peter Dinklage&lt;/a&gt;; who isn&#39;t a primordial dwarf, but actually just a&amp;nbsp;plain&amp;nbsp;awesome one.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLEo24MO4opEZQpWJaiuuRo7XINAisGbERCXiO8ZlfzX21cKWKpqwaOnxalUhm0F9pkcE1rd_awcvK0UKk39sCookGcidbqS92-nulV8hxgo341JjKWg0v4s1Udi72NXIrOZYEH3SPCCw/s1600/joff+slap.gif&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;171&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLEo24MO4opEZQpWJaiuuRo7XINAisGbERCXiO8ZlfzX21cKWKpqwaOnxalUhm0F9pkcE1rd_awcvK0UKk39sCookGcidbqS92-nulV8hxgo341JjKWg0v4s1Udi72NXIrOZYEH3SPCCw/s320/joff+slap.gif&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;The more we see of Joffrey in Game of Thrones, the more I enjoy re-watching this&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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I&amp;nbsp;couldn&#39;t&amp;nbsp;help but think upon reading the term &#39;Primordial Dwarf&#39; that there was something slightly Tolkienesque about the title. Then when I stumbled upon this picture of the pint-sized Nepali, no doubt off on some adventure, it further reinforced the fantastical elements of this story for me.&lt;br /&gt;
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You&amp;nbsp;can read a bit more about how Chandra was&#39;discovered&#39; (which seems an odd verb to apply to a human) &lt;a href=&quot;http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/26/world/asia/nepal-shortest-man-ever/index.html&quot;&gt;over here&lt;/a&gt;, and hear a bit of what he has to say about the titles inferred upon him. Seems like a nice bloke.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/990170120754382181/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/04/little-post-on-littler-man.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/990170120754382181'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/990170120754382181'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/04/little-post-on-littler-man.html' title='A little post on a littler man'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiODNZAJd4xGq07Qwau9Bp4YCzYN1MuSqpUdqu4zHRBg7ZaYKcn9e7UFXJ5KmFLV2ob_bPHN47NwpkR8qEgsLs5LoN9LWbizjuJjZbZN8_BCNH9cJKs8WaqGnC9XCjIZLkZd0CDG_hjRN8/s72-c/Chandra.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-3844943558504600637</id><published>2012-04-19T23:40:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2012-04-19T23:47:05.906+10:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="blogging"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="china"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Chinese"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="comments"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="interesting"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="internet"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="language"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="monogram"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Tolkien"/><title type='text'>A Development on Tolkien’s Monogram</title><content type='html'>Here at &lt;a href=&quot;http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com.au/&quot;&gt;Thoughts From The Antipodes&lt;/a&gt; I am rather keen to get
comments, and hear what people think about my posts, or the subjects they deal
with. However up until a while ago comments could only be entered if you had
certain compatible accounts. So once a few people highlighted this restriction
to me I figured out how to enable anonymous and guest comments here on my blog,
and it is already paying off.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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During a &lt;a href=&quot;http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/my-tolkien-inspired-monogram.html&quot;&gt;recent post&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;on a Tolkien themed monogram I
created for myself, I lamented the fact that my research turned up little in
the way of a background for Tolkien’s own symbol. Apparently I am not the only
one interested in such things, as I got the following anonymous comment earlier
in the week:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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“I was also doing a little research on that monogram
and I couldn´t ignore the resemblance between that monogram and a chinese
character (i´m studying mandarin) it looks almost the same in my opinion, and
since I heard that Tolkein was fluent in many languages maybe he knew a little
chinese as well and was inspired by this character, this is the one i´m talking
about &quot;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-US&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &#39;MS Mincho&#39;;&quot;&gt;束&lt;/span&gt;&quot; it means to bind, to restrain to control, makes you
think about the quote: &quot;one ring to rule them all&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;BEST REGARDS”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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This is why I love the internet: there is always someone out
there with similar interests, and generally more capabilities (or at least a
different enough approach to your own).&lt;/div&gt;
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Upon looking into it, there is quite a curious resemblance between the two
symbols; check it out for yourselves:&lt;/div&gt;
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The&amp;nbsp;Chinese&amp;nbsp;character shù -&amp;nbsp;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-US&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &#39;MS Mincho&#39;;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 48pt;&quot;&gt;束&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Tolkien&#39;s monogram -&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiEexVyFHfbKgI8IR7VQwLiItTuY2U7DC3c3x7SFJomPMyEujEQ-IxhZsdtw3l_VSC1IVrYFtae6tnewNtOX_lKfssZD9_R1mMkzHGA5NOvtfa1T_1sIHvUAWvLsT475-2SnYq99jY9QjM/s1600/shu2.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiEexVyFHfbKgI8IR7VQwLiItTuY2U7DC3c3x7SFJomPMyEujEQ-IxhZsdtw3l_VSC1IVrYFtae6tnewNtOX_lKfssZD9_R1mMkzHGA5NOvtfa1T_1sIHvUAWvLsT475-2SnYq99jY9QjM/s1600/shu2.png&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Then there is the possible connection between the proposed meanings, and Tolkien&#39;s work. S&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;hù can mean to bind or control. And as the anonymous commenter pointed out, one of the more famous quotes&amp;nbsp;associated&amp;nbsp;wi&lt;/span&gt;th Tolkiens masterworks reads:&lt;/div&gt;
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&quot;One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness &lt;b&gt;bind &lt;/b&gt;them.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
But then again, what random verb probably&amp;nbsp;couldn&#39;t&amp;nbsp;be tenuously linked to something significant in&amp;nbsp;Tolkien&#39;s&amp;nbsp;legendarium?&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdMPXNIbrcDASOEqHil-s3xeFUgE7lDmLtVGGmEHmYYPJdrHJkPjLE4u7sBNiH4f5kYnPCMqyqwg9KKYNHomd7FHKxdmxGqMF8C3uPnOcsiBThsfNMEaC8ZibQAjSdivfpnBPpBWR6KLM/s1600/gay1.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdMPXNIbrcDASOEqHil-s3xeFUgE7lDmLtVGGmEHmYYPJdrHJkPjLE4u7sBNiH4f5kYnPCMqyqwg9KKYNHomd7FHKxdmxGqMF8C3uPnOcsiBThsfNMEaC8ZibQAjSdivfpnBPpBWR6KLM/s320/gay1.jpg&quot; width=&quot;215&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;I just wanted an excuse to get this picture in here, so a connection to Gandalf will have to do......&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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Again though, I find the internet is great at peaking my curiosity, but not so good at sating it. Even with this new possible clue as to the inspiration,
if not origins, of Tolkien’s monogram; I am unable to find any more definite
answers. In fact as far as the resemblance goes, the only other mention I can
find is on a forum discussing the Japanese translation of Tolkien’s works, &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.theonering.com/viewtopic.php?t=98367&quot;&gt;found here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
Though this is just a quick mention of the similarities
between the two characters, it is also slightly interesting to look over the
rest of the forum page, and to see just how translating a written work from one
language to the next can be so fascinating.&lt;/div&gt;
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The posters in the forum are correct in that Tolkien was a&amp;nbsp;prodigious&amp;nbsp;learner&amp;nbsp;of languages,&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;apparently spoke around 12 fluently, and was&amp;nbsp;competent&amp;nbsp;in another 13.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjNk8x_XuG5UvihwzHJMCEexx4wMOfxiJC5y4edwhAwnIQFtyEPrGfHlhka8IraZgjeEdCe6pmpc_rVzpz3EjlmOXmObqaVbIbBdh-f8gy_w5PSfFlbEI72if25mdnO8UIV6VY-uFSQTrs/s1600/tolkien-2.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjNk8x_XuG5UvihwzHJMCEexx4wMOfxiJC5y4edwhAwnIQFtyEPrGfHlhka8IraZgjeEdCe6pmpc_rVzpz3EjlmOXmObqaVbIbBdh-f8gy_w5PSfFlbEI72if25mdnO8UIV6VY-uFSQTrs/s320/tolkien-2.jpg&quot; width=&quot;225&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Plus he rocked an awesome pipe.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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However if you look at his background in languages, it does
not look as self evident that this would lend credence to him borrowing his monogram from the&amp;nbsp;Chinese&amp;nbsp;character as it initially appears.&amp;nbsp;Tolkien was twice elected to the post of professor of English Language at Oxford; but as the
title suggests, this is specifically relevant to our mother tongue, not languages in general. In
university after he shifted his major from classical studies to the&amp;nbsp;English&amp;nbsp;language, it was a&amp;nbsp;specialty&amp;nbsp;in
Norse languages that defined his time there. This, along with a general
Euro-centric mythological vibe in his fantasy books, seems to highlight his limited scope regarding the languages of the world.&lt;/div&gt;
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But at the end of the day there is no way to know for
certain. After all, history may record our major drives, accomplishments and
influences; but it can’t always be privy to our day to day whims, happenstance
or coincidence. So who is to know if perhaps upon a trip to the university
library, Tolkien happened upon a book of Chinese characters, and noted the
inherent possabilities imbued upon&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt; shù, and how its composition managed to draw a rough outline of his initials?&lt;/div&gt;
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Anyhow, I just thought this little find was a bit interesting, even if it&amp;nbsp;were ultimately&amp;nbsp;not true.&lt;br /&gt;
What do you all think? Is this symbol similar enough to&amp;nbsp;Tolkien&#39;s&amp;nbsp;to make you think&amp;nbsp;twice&amp;nbsp;about its origins?&lt;br /&gt;
Let me know in the comments.&lt;br /&gt;
MM&lt;br /&gt;
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P.b.&lt;br /&gt;
Since writing this I also noticed&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.minastirith.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=5;t=000122&quot;&gt; this forum&lt;/a&gt;, where the same&amp;nbsp;resemblance&amp;nbsp;with&amp;nbsp;Chinese&amp;nbsp;characters&amp;nbsp;was noticed, however this time there is a different theory offered.&amp;nbsp;However&amp;nbsp;I have been&amp;nbsp;unable&amp;nbsp;to find an example of the character they refer to here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
&quot;The reason for me to post about this subject is related to... chinese characters.&lt;br /&gt;
In fact, Tolkien&#39;s logo is very similar to a specific chinese character named Haikka.&lt;br /&gt;
The meaning of Haikka is &quot;center&quot;, &quot;land in the center&quot;, &quot;Land in the middle of...&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
In resume: it is the chinese symbol to... Middle-Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
Well, Tolkien knew it, I think.&lt;br /&gt;
So maybe the logo creation is linked to this chinese character.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/3844943558504600637/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/04/development-on-tolkiens-monogram.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/3844943558504600637'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/3844943558504600637'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/04/development-on-tolkiens-monogram.html' title='A Development on Tolkien’s Monogram'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiEexVyFHfbKgI8IR7VQwLiItTuY2U7DC3c3x7SFJomPMyEujEQ-IxhZsdtw3l_VSC1IVrYFtae6tnewNtOX_lKfssZD9_R1mMkzHGA5NOvtfa1T_1sIHvUAWvLsT475-2SnYq99jY9QjM/s72-c/shu2.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-592550644393960414</id><published>2012-04-13T23:44:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2012-04-13T23:44:50.680+10:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="quote"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="random"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Wednesdays Words"/><title type='text'>Influential Biologist or Mediocre Bond Girl</title><content type='html'>A bit late for a&amp;nbsp;Wednesdays&amp;nbsp;words, but I&amp;nbsp;couldn&#39;t&amp;nbsp;help post this about&amp;nbsp;today&#39;s&amp;nbsp;quote:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
“One can start from the perspective of a religious
naturalist or from the perspective of the world religions and arrive at the
same place: a moral imperative that this Earth and its creatures be respected
and cherished” - &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ursula_Goodenough&quot;&gt;Ursula
Goodenough&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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I feel bad saying this, but to be honest the first thing I
thought about when I saw this quote was not the quote itself, but rather the originator
of the quote: Ursula Goodenough. It sounds like a mediocre Bond girl’s name.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Ursula, meh; good enough.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/592550644393960414/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/04/influential-biologist-or-mediocre-bond.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/592550644393960414'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/592550644393960414'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/04/influential-biologist-or-mediocre-bond.html' title='Influential Biologist or Mediocre Bond Girl'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-1087671958092259318</id><published>2012-04-13T21:04:00.002+10:00</published><updated>2012-04-13T21:04:48.653+10:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="blogging"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="drunkeness"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="experience"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="family"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="holiday"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="life"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="me"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="quotes"/><title type='text'>I’m Back</title><content type='html'>Oh my how it has been a busy past few weeks. Hell, a busy
past month!&lt;br /&gt;
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It has been far too long since I posted regularly on here,
and for those few of you who enjoy reading my esoterically themed posts, I
apologise. Indeed you can take my previous &lt;a href=&quot;http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/dawkins-v-pell-my-commentary.html&quot;&gt;six-thousand word strong post&lt;/a&gt; as
something of a compensation for this (I hope it wasn’t too long). But there has
been a lot going on lately which explains this absence.&lt;/div&gt;
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First, there was my favourite day of the year, St Patricks
Day. Expect a post on this one soon or at least something outlining my maleficent
love of Guinness, and my recent membership to the 100 pint club. Then there was
my mates wedding, where I was one of the best men, and agonised over the
prospect of doing a speech which apparently went down alright in the end, but
about which I have little to no recollection of right now (not to mention the
random singing of a Eurovision song as demanded by the father of the groom....).
Then the Easter break came along, and a long weekend of caravan parking, and
beer drinking, left me thoroughly off the radar on all accounts.&lt;/div&gt;
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Oh and did I mention that in the midst of this I decided to
take up a second job tutoring at university, have yet to figure out how this
will work with my current full time job, and am still trying to convince my work that this will in some way offer positive benefits?&lt;/div&gt;
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Anyhow, this is in part the reason for my absence, and I
shall endeavour to rectify it as soon as possible. In the meantime, enjoy this random
Hitchens quote and unrelated gif:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;“We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own
paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes - one
indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximum freedom to
thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way” - Christopher Hitchens&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Easter holidays (which in some part explains my lack of blogging lately), but
was delighted to find that as I came home Monday night, there was to be a
televised sparring between the venerable Richard Dawkins, and the........ well,
and George Pell.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;It is always great to see
Dawkins on the fly. So often news reports depict him as a militant atheist, who
is rude, or arrogant, and attacks religious belief with wanton disregard. Then
when I watch his appearances, I am always reminded of just how polite and
British the man is. His worst retorts after all are generally along the lines
of an Oxfordian “utter nonsense”, or “patently absurd”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;If this is considered the
epitome of a rude atheist, then I must be a positively abhorrent one.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;During the show I was
surprised at how flimsy Pell arguments were. No doubt I was always going to
come out in support of Dawkins, but I had expected there to be more formidable
arguments either for religious belief, or else against atheism. Yet I found
myself being able to predict the weak arguments before they were pulled out of
what must be quite a tattered bag of apologist tropes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Hitler was an atheist, or
social Darwinist; therefore evolution can’t be a good thing. We evolved from
Neanderthals. If there were no justice after death, that would be very nice,
therefore, there must be. Darwin was a theist. And so on.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;All in all I had a great
time watching the show, and though I had promised myself that I wouldn’t go
into a twitter overload, I ended up tweeting around 22 times during the
fifty-odd minute show. Not too bad an outcome though, as I managed to get one
of &lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/#!/MathewMorton/status/189325952369700864&quot;&gt;my tweets&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;up on screen to be seen by 863,000 Australians, which is
around 4% of the population, so I am happy with that. It also got me a sizable
new chunk of followers on twitter, and it is always nice to know that your
crazy twitter rants are appreciated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Then as I decided to
write a blog on this episode of Q&amp;amp;A, I quickly found my initial thoughts on
the program spiralling out of control into an almost blow by blow account of
the interaction. So rather than make this solely a reflective piece, I have
decided to make it a sort of running commentary of my favourite bits of the
night, supplemented with quotes from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3469101.htm#transcript&quot;&gt;transcript&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;This ended up running
into around five thousand words (I remember uni days when such a word count
would have killed me), but I hope it is somewhat entertaining for those of you
who watched the show, and perhaps even those who missed it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;So yes it is rather longer than my usual posts, and doesn&#39;t have as many interesting pictures to look at, but it is just a culmination of a lot of stuff i wanted to get off my chest after watching the show.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Here goes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The first question was
quite a stock standard one, regarding whether or not an atheist can essentially
be a good person. It is one often brought out in these debates, but also one
that most people know the answer to from either side; yes, but with some
conditions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Dawkins points his
response that &lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;“it is true that
Christianity has adopted many of the best values of humanity but they don&#39;t
belong to Christianity or any other religion”&lt;/b&gt;, and goes on to point out the
bad things espoused in the Bible, both New Testament and Old. Then Pell
counters with a quote which seems to me a bit too understanding of
Christianity’s nature as a created religion, not a metaphysical truth:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“We’re Christians, we&#39;re New Testament
people. There was an evolution in the Old Testament. There are some awful
things there. It developed. The notion of God was purified as it went through
the Old Testament.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;It seems odd for him to
be talking of the notion of God changing, and of parts of the Bibles teachings
being awful.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Now on to audience question
number two, where things start to get moving along quicker:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“Religion is precisely often blamed for
being the root of war and conflict but what about all the good it has done for
society. God-centred religion has been the birth place of schools,
universities, hospitals and countless developments in science. Richard, if you
believe the human drive to seek the truth and to constantly improve ourselves
is merely a mechanism for survival, then what’s the point and why should I
bother?&amp;nbsp;”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;This second question was
a bit all over the place. First it is talking about remembering all the good
things that religion has done rather than focusing on the bad things, then
after simply stating that as if it should be a powerful point, the questioner
quickly darts aside and asks ‘what’s the point’ if we are products of
evolution.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I mean, perhaps a
pertinent question, but where is the lead up, and what’s more; where is the
alternative? It is all well and good to say, ‘what is the point if we are the
product of evolution’, but perhaps if you are arguing for religion as the
alternative, you should at least offer a reason why us originating from a god’s
creation would imbue us with any more purpose, beyond that of merely being
created by a god.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;As Dawkins said &lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;“We have to find our own purposes in life,
which are not derived directly from our scientific history”,&lt;/b&gt; which I agree
with completely because I think that any purpose we want to derive for
ourselves should depend on our own qualities and attributes, not just our physical
origins.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Pell isn’t brought into
the debate here, which was a pity if we wanted to hear an alternative purpose
of life. But nonetheless, the third question quickly followed as a bit of an
extension of this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“Okay, my question for you today is:
without religion, where is the basis of our values and in time, will we perhaps
revert back to Darwin&#39;s idea of survival of the fittest?&amp;nbsp;”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Having read a lot of
Dawkins writings, I knew he would have an answer for this which really seems
like common sense to anyone who understands science’s place in our lives. That
answer is simply that Darwinian principles explain how we got here; they are a
physical law and shouldn’t be used to determine how we run our society any more
than the theory of gravity should. Dawkins says this, and states emphatically
that he would definitely not like to live by Darwinian principles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The discussion then went
towards science, and how it can tell us about why we are here. Pell, being a
self stylised authority on why we are here, leapt on this chance, which lead to
this little exchange:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: Well, it’s interest because I
think in the space of about two minutes, Richard has said two different things,
one of which is that science can&#39;t tell us why we&#39;re here and then in the next
minute, trying to say that it does.&lt;br /&gt;
RICHARD DAWKINS: No. No. I said it can tell us why we&#39;re here.&lt;br /&gt;
GEORGE PELL: It can&#39;t.&lt;br /&gt;
RICHARD DAWKINS: Well, I simply contradict you in that case.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Here we begin to see the
germ of a core misunderstanding between Pell and Dawkins as one talks about why
we are here in a sense of ‘what is our purpose’, and the other talks about why
we are here in a sense of ‘what caused us to be’.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Dawkins put it nicely,
and with his trademark scientific air:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“Why we exist, you&#39;re playing with the word
“why” there. Science is working on the problem of the antecedent factors that
lead to our existence. Now, “why” in any further sense than that, why in the
sense of purpose is, in my opinion, not a meaningful question. You cannot ask a
question like “Why do mountains exist?” as though mountains have some kind of
purpose. What you can say is what are the causal factors that lead to the
existence of mountains and the same with life and the same with the universe.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;This is the age old ‘science
can answer how, but not why’ argument, where those in favour of this rhetorical
side step fail to elucidate why there must be a &lt;i style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;why&lt;/i&gt;, as opposed to simply just a &lt;i style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;how&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Then, at around the 9
minute mark I believe it was, Pell proved himself to be quite a premature
invoker of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin&#39;s_law&quot;&gt;Godwin’s Law&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;when he took what is considered a fatal step in
internet arguments, and committed a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum&quot;&gt;Redictio Ad Hitlerum&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“[...] it’s not Maggie Thatcher who was in
the epitome or the personification of social Darwinism. It’s Hitler and
Stalin.&amp;nbsp;[........] Because it is the struggle for survival, the strong
take what they can and the weak give what they must and there is nothing to
restrain them and we have seen that in the two great atheist movements of the
last century.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Not only is this a
premature appeal to Hitler, but also the classic mistake of counting him, and
his Nazi cronies, as vanguards for atheism. Dawkins of course being a veteran
of these unctuous arguments was quick to label this as ridiculous and again pointed
out that:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“That’s exactly why I said that I despise
Darwinian natural selection as a motto for how we should live. I tried to say
we should not live by Darwinian principles but Darwinian principles explain how
we got here and why we exist in the scientific sense”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;At this point we reach
the first of a few instances where a group of the audience flat out laughed at sporadic
points during Dawkins explanations, to which he would ask the audience ‘Why is
that funny?’ but never got a direct response. The laughter in this case was
caused by the statement from Dawkins:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“Now, Cardinal, you said it’s part of human
nature to want to ask the question why in the sense of purpose. It may very
well be part of human nature but that doesn&#39;t make it a valid question.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;They laughed, Dawkins
asked why, but I don’t think he got a response.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;As this went further, and
Dawkins further explained why he believes that a question like “What is the
purpose of the universe?” is a silly question, Pell interjected to &lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;say “I think it’s a very poignant and real
question to ask, “Why is there suffering?””&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Well it may be poignant,
and real; but it has nothing to do with the question they were talking about!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;On talking about
suffering Dawkins later pointed out that &lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;“it
is a natural part of the living condition. It is a natural part of Darwinian
natural selection, which is one of the reasons why I was so keen to say that I
didn&#39;t want to live by Darwinian principles.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Again a clear explanation
of what he believes to be the place of science and evolution in human affairs,
but one which is constantly ignored by his detractors.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Next a question was
directed toward Dawkins about his use of the label ‘atheist’ despite the fact
that he has self-identified as being an agnostic in the past. Even Tony Jones
seemed uncharacteristically uninformed about this distinction, but Dawkins
seemed to explain it rather succinctly (with examples from his book The God
Delusion), and a nice reference to the Easter season we find ourselves in:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“I live my life as though there is no God
but any scientist of any sense will not say that they positively can disprove
the existence of anything. I cannot disprove the existence of the Easter Bunny
and so I am agnostic about the Easter Bunny. It’s in the same respect that I am
agnostic about God”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Though I was happy to see
the whole agnostic/atheist thing brought up with regard to Dawkins beliefs, I
couldn’t help but think it could have been handled a bit better. I am of the
ilk that describes ourselves as agnostic-atheists; we don’t believe in god, but
we also don’t claim to know that there is no god. The label agnostic can be
applied to any number of propositions, as Dawkins points out, as it deals with
claims of knowledge. Atheist however can only be applied to one proposition, namely
ones beliefs regarding deities. It deals only with these beliefs, and not the
nature of whether or not the validity of such beliefs can be known with
absolute certainty.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;It is in this way that I
think it is pertinent that we use the label atheist to describe ourselves,
rather than just agnostic, as it gives a true indication of what our beliefs
are, not just how certain we can claim to be regarding them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The discussion then went
towards what proofs would sway Dawkins mind, to which he had no direct answer,
and was open in admitting this and the questions tricky nature. Tony then asked
Pell whether he would be able to provide Dawkins with some of the proof he
would require, to which Pell replied:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“No, because I think he only accepts proof
that is rooted in sense experience. In other words he excludes the world of
metaphysics, say the principle of contradiction, and he excludes the
possibility of arguments that don&#39;t go against reason but go beyond it.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Arguments that go beyond
reason....... I don’t know what to make of this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Tony then presses Pell a
bit further with a great question regarding why this god would choose a small
group of Jews 2,000 years ago, and make no subsequent proof after that. George
Pell then digs himself a nice little hole to sit in when he remarked that the
Jews were intellectual inferiors to their contemporaries, which led to a bit of
ribbing by the host:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: They weren&#39;t intellectually
the equal of either the Egyptians or the...&lt;br /&gt;
TONY JONES: Intellectually?&lt;br /&gt;
GEORGE PELL: Intellectually, morally...&lt;br /&gt;
TONY JONES: How can you know intellectually?&lt;br /&gt;
GEORGE PELL: Because you see the fruits of their civilisation. Egypt was the
great power for thousands of years before Christianity. Persia was a great
power, Caldia. The poor - the little Jewish people, they were originally
shepherds. They were stuck. They’re still stuck between these great powers.&lt;br /&gt;
TONY JONES: But that’s not a reflection of your intellectual capacity, is it,
whether or not you&#39;re a shepherd?&lt;br /&gt;
GEORGE PELL: Well, no it’s not but it is a recognition it is a reflection of
your intellectual development, be it like many, many people are very, very
clever and not highly intellectual but my point is...&lt;br /&gt;
TONY JONES: I’m sorry, can I just interrupt? Are you including Jesus in that,
who was obviously Jewish and was of that community?&lt;br /&gt;
GEORGE PELL: Exactly.&lt;br /&gt;
TONY JONES: So intellectually not up to it?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Bazinga&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.com.au/search?q=bazinga&amp;amp;um=1&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;tbm=isch&amp;amp;source=og&amp;amp;sa=N&amp;amp;tab=wi&amp;amp;ei=7N6GT5fhNMiziQfUntDXBw&amp;amp;biw=1024&amp;amp;bih=481&amp;amp;sei=AN-GT_KIO82tiQeHuaG4Bw&quot;&gt;!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The next viewer question
was my favourite, so I shall show it in its entirety, as well as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqoqAxSO9VI&amp;amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=380s&quot;&gt;link to it&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“Question for Richard Dawkins. The big
bangers believe that once there was nothing, then suddenly, poof, the universe
was created from a big bang. If I have nothing in the palm of my hand, close my
fingers, speak the word bang, then open my fingers again, still I find there is
nothing there. I ask you to explain to us in layman&#39;s terms how it is that
something as enormous at the universes came from nothing? ”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;First of all, Big
Bangers; I love this label.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I like his little
experiment, and the challenge he puts forth as if he has shook the foundations
of the Big Bang theory, but at the end of the day this guys argument about
closing and opening his hand is as laughable as the old ‘Peanut butter proves
that there can be no abiogenesis’ argument.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I still cant believe this guy is serious.....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I also have to ponder why
it is he thinks that the enormity of the universe would impact on its ability
to come from nothing. This is particularly important to note as after all, the
Big Bang theory tells us that the universe was once super condensed, and as
such was not all that enormous (though still contained all the energy/mater we
have today apparently).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;People want a simple
answer for the beginning of the universe, and then balk at the mention of
anything that might sound a bit beyond their understanding. If an answer cannot
be understood by them intuitively, then they don’t believe it has any weight as
an explanation, This may well be a good argument if you think you live in a
world where such explanation usually are intuitive. But talk to any physicist
and you will soon find that much of the way the world works isn’t intuitive;
just&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=chrome&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;q=quantum+mechanics&quot;&gt; Google quantum mechanics&lt;/a&gt; and you will see how far the rabbit hole goes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;When the discussion
continues and talk of&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Universe_from_Nothing:_Why_There_is_Something_Rather_Than_Nothing&quot;&gt; new theories&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;regarding the appearance of the
universe gets moving, Pell attacks some of Dawkins arguments, and invokes what
must be one of the biggest cop out arguments in the arsenal of the Christian
apologist:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“he dumbs down God and he soups up nothing.
He continually talks as though God is some sort of upmarket figure within space
and time”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;‘Within Space and time’
is the important part there. You will constantly hear people saying that their
god is outside of space and time, and thus not subject to its ways, but you
never hear an explanation of what this means, and how it can be reconciled with
other forms of thinking prevalent in their theology. For instance, if this god
is outside of space and time, how can he create a universe? The very act of
creation requires time to already exist, after all you can’t have a ‘before and
after’ the universe, without having time. And you can’t have a universe,
without having space-time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Regarding the outside of
space and time excuse, Dawkins replied:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“it is no good invoking Thomas Aquinis and
saying that God is defined as outside time and space. That’s just a cop out.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;FYI, I didn’t realise
Dawkins phrased this almost exactly as I did above, but I am nonetheless pleased
by it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I think some more direct
audience participation with Dawkins would have been good. After all, so many
times when the audience laughed at something he said, Dawkins wanted to know why
it was funny, but received no explanation. It made him seem more offended by
their laughter rather than genuinely curious and ready to engage, as I believe
he was.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;This second bit of
audience participation was spurred on by this remark:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: You can dispute exactly
what is meant by nothing but whatever it is it’s very, very simple. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;(AUDIENCE LAUGH)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: Why is that funny? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: Well, I think it’s a bit funny
to be trying to define nothing.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Of course you do George,
because you are not a philosopher or a scientist, so you don’t have to define
or describe things; you are a theologian, and as such simply have to interpret
things within your own stationary worldview. The Cardinal talks as if
definitions in a philosophical or rational debate aren’t worth ruminating over.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The audience members who
were snickered here no doubt consider such things equally absurd, because like
most philosophical debates worth having, there is an instinctive answer that
some are just willing to accept. We think it is silly to try and define
nothing, because we have our own understanding of the word built up since we
were a child. Much like if people are asked to define what happy is, or sad,
they will probably shy from the task, because rather than question their own
personal understanding of the concepts, it is easier to treat them as
self-evident truths and be done with it. Perhaps more pragmatic, but by no
means philosophically satisfying.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Next came one of Pell’s
biggest slip-ups which unfortunately I believe wasn’t properly debunked. That
is Pell’s insistence that Charles Darwin was a theist.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The exchange went like
this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: Darwin was a theist because he
said he couldn’t believe that the immense cosmos and all the beautiful things
in the world came about either by chance or out of necessity. He said, “I have
to be ranked as a theist.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: That just not true.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: Excuse me it’s...&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: It’s just plain not true.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: It’s on page 92 of his auto
biography. Go and have a look.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Dawkins displays his
incredulity at this falsehood, but as the discussion is quickly moved along by
Jones; there is no real room for rebuttal. But there is room on this blog for
all manner of things I would wish to rant about, and so here I shall!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;In a sense Pell is right
about Darwin having been a theist, however not in the sense he actually wants
people to believe. Darwin &lt;i style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; a
theist, much like he &lt;i style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-style: normal;&quot;&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; a baby: but
then he grew up. He was a theist, but then he lost this faith, and the quote in
his autobiography as reference by George was clearly talking about beliefs
Darwin had had, not ones he maintained at the time of writing. In fact if he
had only read a few pages further, to &lt;a href=&quot;http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?itemID=F1497&amp;amp;viewtype=text&amp;amp;pageseq=1&quot;&gt;page
94&lt;/a&gt;, he would have read Darwin affirming himself as an agnostic, and then elucidating
just how one can go about living according to this, without recourse for a god
to explain things.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The night of the show I
looked up page 92 of his autobiography and got a nice link to Darwin’s online
writings. However if you search for a similar thing today, you will find links
to heaps of blogs discussing the very thing I am discussing now; the use of
this by Pell on Q&amp;amp;A. The misinformation patrols are quick at work for our
religious friends however, as one Catholic site is already exclaiming &lt;a href=&quot;http://protectthepope.com/?p=5007&quot;&gt;“Cardinal Pell shows up Richard
Dawkins ignorance about Charles Darwin”&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Then, having failed to
understand the history of Darwin’s religious beliefs despite the fact that he
was claiming to have read his autobiography (which is a nice read and like all of&amp;nbsp;Darwin&#39;s&amp;nbsp;work, &lt;a href=&quot;http://darwin-online.org.uk/&quot;&gt;available for free online&lt;/a&gt;), Pell exposed his lack of
understanding with regard to mankind’s evolutionary history with this startling
exchange, which seemed to enliven Dawkins from his jetlag:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;TONY JONES: Sorry, can I just bring you, in
a sense, to the point of the question? Do you accept that humans evolved from
apes? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: Yeah, probably. From
Neanderthals, yes. Whether...&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: From Neanderthals? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: Probably.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: Why from Neanderthals? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: Well, who else would you
suggest? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: Neanderthals were our
cousins. We’re not descended from them and we’re both descended from...&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: These are extant cousins?
Where will I find a Neanderthal today if they&#39;re my cousins? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: They’re not extant,
they’re extinct.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: Exactly. That’s my point.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: Your point is that because
they&#39;re extinct they can&#39;t be our cousins?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: I really am not much fussed.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: That’s very clear.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: Something in the evolutionary
story seems to have come before humans. A lot of people say it’s the
Neanderthal.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Sure perhaps it is a bit
much to attack the Bishop for this mistake; after all he has no expertise in
the matter whatsoever. But nevertheless, Pell should have just pushed it aside
by saying, ‘oh well, I don’t really know much about mans evolutionary history’,
rather than trying to argue about the relevance of this other species of human
being extant, or cousins. He even goes on to state how Neanderthals weren’t the
equivalent of humans because they didn’t draw on cave walls, even though there
is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21458-first-neanderthal-cave-paintings-discovered-in-spain.html&quot;&gt;new
evidence that they in fact did do just that&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;As the discussion
continued about mans evolution and the implications of this toward those religions
that believe man in unique and has a soul, I think there was further evidence showing
Pell’s ignorance of modern evolutionary theory. For example he shows a
misunderstanding of the continuous nature of species here:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“so we can&#39;t say exactly when there was a
first human but we have to say if there are humans there must have been a first
one”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;There doesn’t have to be
a first human at all, just because there is a human now. There is gradual
change, so that no parent and offspring would be so dissimilar as to be
labelled members of different species, yet these gradual changes would nevertheless
compound over time to inevitably change the species (Dawkins in fact goes over
this briefly, but adroitly, in a later segment, to which Pell inanely replies “if
there is no first person we’re not humans”).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;In talking about these
‘first people’ Pell made some headlines (virtual ones at least) in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/adam-and-eve-thats-just-mythology-says-pell/story-e6frg6nf-1226322379822&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;when he referred to Adam and Eve as mythology, and not fact. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;When he started going
over this mythology, Pell highlighted one of the things that I believe is a
major difference between a theist’s mindset versus that of an atheist’s:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“[...] the key to the whole of universe,
the really significant thing, are humans”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;A very self centred view
of the nature of existence I would think. What do you know, it is all about me
after all. It’s like Phillip J Fry once said: “So I really am important? How I
feel when I&#39;m drunk is correct?“&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“and, [...], it is a very sophisticated
mythology to try to explain the evil and suffering in the world.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I will just say quickly
about the above that I don’t believe it is very sophisticated to assert that
sins can be inherited, and that people are born, as Hitchens used to quote &quot;created
sick, commanded to be well”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;A while later when the
talk again moves towards Richard’s expertise in science my favourite moment of
the night appears. Take a look:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-transform: uppercase;&quot;&gt;George
Pell:&lt;/span&gt; You have to reason about the facts of science, ask whether you
believe the suggestion that, you know, random selection is sufficient and also
most evolutionary biologists today don&#39;t believe that.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: Don&#39;t believe what? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: They don&#39;t believe in random
so this crude fundamentalist version of random selection that you propose&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: I do not propose it and I
strongly deny that evolution is random selection. Evolution is non-random
selection. Non-random.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: So there is a purpose to it is
there? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: No. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: Could you explain what non-random
means? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;RICHARD DAWKINS: Yes, of course I could.
It’s my life&#39;s work!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I love it, especially because so many religious apologists
seem to forget that these scientists do have a whole lot of research behind
what they are doing, and unlike a lifetime built up on theological ideas, they
can explain them with due recourse to facts and observations. It just goes to
show how much of religious disapproval of evolutionary theory is based on an
unchanging image of the science as constructed by apologists, rather than an
active understanding of the theory. That evolution is still considered by many
who don’t understand it as a random process, is something which must infuriate
Dawkins, and other evolutionary biologists, to no end.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Dawkins great strength is
how he can explain something so well, in so few words. Take for example the explanation
of evolution’s non-random nature which he gives to Pell:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“There is random genetic variation and
non-random survival and non-random reproduction which is why, as the
generations go by, animals get better at doing what they do. That is
quintessentially non-random.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Next, an atheist asks a
question about what will happen when he [the atheist] dies and we get a long
response from Pell (prodded by Tony of course) which goes into some of the
intricacies of the Christian mythology, but again I like the concise and
rational nature of Dawkins response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 36.0pt; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“Well, the answer to the question of what’s
going to happen when we die depends on whether we&#39;re buried, cremated or give
our bodies to science.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Bam, done.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;As the discussion delved
into more Christian mythology, and Pell defended such things as bodily
resurrection and transubstantiation, he again hinted toward the mortal origins
of Christianity upon acknowledging the adoption of yet more Greek culture and
thinking into the Christian ethos:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 36.0pt; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“I understand it [edit: transubstantiation],
according to a system of metaphysics. It was spelled out by the Greeks before
Christ came, which we have adopted [......]”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Though I suppose it could
be said that the referrals back to a previous culture don’t just show the human
origins of religion, but rather that it may reflect a universal truth not quite
grasped correctly by the Greeks. But honestly; which is the simpler
explanation?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Dawkins calls out another
tricky tactic of the religious apologist when he continually tries to get Pell
to explain how some of the language he is using actually applies to real world
usage, and our way of employing the English language. When Pell tries to
explain how the wafer does become the body of Christ via transubstantiation,
but remains as a wafer for all intents and purposes, Dawkins retorts:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 36.0pt; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“I mean I use - English is my native
language. The wafer does not become the body of anybody in the English
language.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;However as Pell had
previously said:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“I believe it because I believe the man who
told us that was also the son of God. He says, “This is my body. This is my
blood,” and I’d much prefer to listen to him and take his word than yours.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;It is clear that a
rational discussion about language and how it should be employed (with common
definitions and syntax) is useless against someone who defines words by divine
fiat, not in any proper linguistic fashion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Seeing that this
discussion was going nowhere, Tony interjected with a new, and refreshingly
brief, question from the audience:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 36.0pt; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“Is it okay to tell a child that God
doesn&#39;t exist?&amp;nbsp;”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;This is one I have
thought about a lot as my son is growing up in a culture that frequently talks
of God, gods and heaven, albeit generally in a metaphorical or profane (“God
damn it!”) sense. Dawkins does well, saying that he would prefer for her to
figure it out based on the evidence [he has a great open letter to his
daughter, hence the ‘her’, that can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rationalresponders.com/richard_dawkins_letter_to_his_10_year_old_daughter_how_to_warn_your_child_about_this_irrational_world&quot;&gt;over here&lt;/a&gt;]. After all, he is
an agnostic atheist, and would not be willing to tell his child that a god
doesn’t exist with 100% certainty anyhow.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Then when Pell was
starting his response to this question, he unintentionally got the biggest
laugh of the night with this statement, which were it not coming from a member
of the catholic church, would barely have registered a stifled giggle:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“I remember when I was in England we were
preparing some young English boys”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I smell a meme on the
way!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Thank you Sam Dekok for being so on the ball making this&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Some people have said that it was a bit crass of Dawkins to
laugh when the audience took amusement from Pell reminiscing about ‘preparing’
some English boys, but I think that given the Catholic Church’s history in this
regard, it is hardly an unwarranted jest.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Then when the laughter
dies down, and he finally gets it out, Pell’s self styled ‘simple’ answer to
the question of whether kids should be told they are going to hell is this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 36.0pt; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&quot;Hitler. You think Hitler might be in
hell? Started the Second World War, caused the death of 50 million or would you
prefer a system where Hitler got away with it for free?&quot;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Would you prefer it? As
if preference has a bearing upon reality. I am sure the kid would prefer a
universe where suffering such as the like committed by Hitler, was simply not
possible.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;This personal drive for
justice to be handed out even after the grave is brought home when Jones
presses him further (as he is sooooo good at doing):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;TONY JONES: What about a system where he
was obliterated and didn&#39;t exist anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
GEORGE PELL: Well, he would have got away with too much, as far as I am
concerned.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;But Pell doesn’t give up,
he is determined to show that simply wanting the universe to be a preferable
and just one is somehow an argument for it actually being such a universe.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 36.0pt; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“But I believe on behalf of the innocent
victims in history that the scales of justice should work out. And if they
don&#39;t, life is radically unjust, the law of the jungle prevails.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;‘On behalf of the innocent
victims’, implicitly suggesting that those atheists who don’t believe there is
justice in the universe from some divine after death source, are somehow not on
the side of the victims.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;True, a world where the Hitler’s and Mengele’s can simply
die and escape justice may not be a just world at all. However saying this
doesn’t really add weight to the argument to that your idea of what the world
could be like is nicer than an alternative, and therefore that it must be true.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I believe that the world is essentially an indifferent
place, which is why I don’t think that justice is something to be doled out
from beyond the grave, but rather that justice, like ethics and happiness; is
an entirely human affair.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Dawkins likewise is
having none of this, and simply responds to the question of which reality is
more preferential with this little nugget of rationality:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 36.0pt; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“I’m more interested, however, in what’s
true than in what I would like to be true.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Any talk of suffering or
justice in regard to a religious worldview is bound to ask the question of why
an omnipotent god would allow such things to happen. Pell offers up the same
‘free will’ argument so often employed, yet very rarely explained:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 36.0pt; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“That’s a very good question but if God is
going to allow us to be good he’s got to give us freedom.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Freedom perhaps, but
ability; no. We can easily be given the freedom to do things, without making
every possible action available to be done. For example, we have the ability to
kill, and maim; but is this physical reality required in order for our will to
be truly free? I don’t think so. We could have bodies incapable of feeling
pain, or being killed, whilst retaining our free will, so this reality still
needs to be accounted for.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;As the night quickly came
to an end, I think Pell was beginning to lose interest in the whole affair. He
had shot himself in the foot a few times along the way, and then added this
nice snafu to the mix when talking about secondary causes in regard to how a perfect
god would design a just universe:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: It is interesting through
these secondary causes probably no people in history have been punished the way
the Germans were. It is a terrible mystery.&lt;br /&gt;
TONY JONES: There would be a very strong argument saying that the Jews of
Europe suffered worse than the Germans. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;George Pell, you have
been Tony Jones’d.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;As if that weren’t enough
to highlight Pell’s mounting disinterest in his side of the exchange, his final
words for the night consisted of this exchange:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: [...] my life would be much
simpler and much easier if I didn&#39;t have to go to bat for a number of Christian
principles.&lt;br /&gt;
TONY JONES: Have you ever regretted that you do?&lt;br /&gt;
GEORGE PELL: Sometimes I wonder.&lt;br /&gt;
TONY JONES: Seriously?&lt;br /&gt;
GEORGE PELL: No. No. No.&amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Ah yes, if only it was
the good old days, when Catholic Cardinals didn’t have to try and explain
themselves to the people, and could just force through their will with divine
right.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Anyhow, that is my
commentary on the Dawkins v Pell episode of Q and A. I hope it was enjoyable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;MM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Oh, and one quick last minute mention of another meme created after&amp;nbsp;George&amp;nbsp;Pell replied to a question about the&amp;nbsp;existence&amp;nbsp;of gays within his god&#39;s master plan in this exchange:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 18px; text-align: -webkit-auto;&quot;&gt;TONY JONES: Can I just interpose a quick question on this. We are running out of time. I mean do you believe that homosexuality, since it’s not a question of choice, is part of God&#39;s natural order?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 18px; text-align: -webkit-auto;&quot;&gt;GEORGE PELL: Creation is messy. I think it’s the oriental carpet makers always leave a little flaw in their carpet because only God is perfect.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/feeds/9084650897283274673/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/04/dawkins-v-pell-my-commentary.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/9084650897283274673'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6791981228932832440/posts/default/9084650897283274673'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com/2012/04/dawkins-v-pell-my-commentary.html' title='Dawkins v Pell: My Commentary'/><author><name>A Drunken Man</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18443428077036998280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcE11TMSETlcImecagNt2u_ULjXimdzAiaViI-UdnZnbUurhx3T6Yrgqy3xZXO82EmIWK20Y_uY8r86iBOiKnoux9qg1DxqfAe-R_N2iqi30PZ75sB7FX18S3q3XGeKQ/s220/n742688754_9036.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhooTI0LQiejogFSypY8gws4AB-mKA3N813Z4CrMsqcW9BZvpJnr7LujdHenKwgX0cO8laCu1w5zv_0Waw-yvv1APpXchmXHr2hyphenhyphenYSpMI0QQkAMJ3wz9iT-n3fXsjyAQyGUmpguT_v_Xw/s72-c/Pell+meme2.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6791981228932832440.post-2305852779999532667</id><published>2012-03-21T22:46:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2012-03-21T22:46:25.183+11:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="blogging"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="hobbit"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="io9"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="me"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Nazis"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="quote"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="scooped"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Tolkien"/><title type='text'>On Tolkien Berating Nazis, and my getting scooped.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;One problem I have found myself facing as a blogger is my
lax posting. I often have a great idea, or write a nice rant on a current event,
only to find myself neglecting to post it, and it remaining in draft form long
after the event has remained topical.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I bring this up because of&lt;a href=&quot;http://io9.com/5892697/whats-classier-than-jrr-tolkien-telling-off-nazis-absolutely-nothing&quot;&gt; this article&lt;/a&gt; over at one of my
more frequent blog haunts, io9.com.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;It’s only a short post, the crux of which is J.R.R. Tolkien’s
reply to some German publishers who are looking to get a German translation of
his masterworks produced. There is a great quote from the man himself directly
to the cretinous Nazi’s.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The annoying thing is, during my research into Tolkien for
&lt;a href=&quot;http://thoughtsfromtheantipodes.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/my-tolkien-inspired-monogram.html&quot;&gt;my previous post&lt;/a&gt; regarding a Tolkienesque monogram I tried to design for
myself*, I came across the Tolkien/Nazi missives and thought it was impressive,
and would make for a cool blog.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjaJwiiqgFL0TIG32HtDfYqpY1x4tpg-UtYil_joUCk9t5bl79QY2HWCOyX37CYh6JZReroJo-nTE2tMG62i8lFRMuYB0TKwAFUpgBVfmYCKO0zGz3P628Kr-nNftUjnFbC2ntqBjLFBxQ/s1600/Tolkien_Relaxed.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;319&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjaJwiiqgFL0TIG32HtDfYqpY1x4tpg-UtYil_joUCk9t5bl79QY2HWCOyX37CYh6JZReroJo-nTE2tMG62i8lFRMuYB0TKwAFUpgBVfmYCKO0zGz3P628Kr-nNftUjnFbC2ntqBjLFBxQ/s320/Tolkien_Relaxed.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;And really, who is cooler than an old age Tolkien?&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;But gods damn it I was scooped; and it&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;wasn&#39;t&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;even a recent
story!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Nonetheless, I will include the quote here for those who
either haven’t read the link yet, or don’t plan to, along with a bit of
commentary from myself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The whole thing started in 1938, when German publishing
house Rütten &amp;amp; Loening Verlag was getting ready to release a German
language version of&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Freeman&quot;&gt; The Hobbit.&lt;/a&gt; Germany being well within the throws of Nazism
at the time lead the publishers to enquire as to whether Tolkien was of Aryan descent.
Being well aware of the situation in Germany, and no fan of the totalitarian
Hitler (who he called a &#39;ruddy little ignoramus&#39;), Tolkien wrote a letter to the
publisher, first outlining the ridiculous etymological origins of the supposed “Aryan
race” by pointing out to the witless Nazis that ‘Aryan’ is actually &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan&quot;&gt;a linguistic term&lt;/a&gt; to denoting speakers of Indo-Iranian languages; and secondly by going to
great length to not only rub his admiration of Jewish people in their face, but
also to express his lament at what he sees as the degradation of German
integrity at the hands of the Nazis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh3N3vhINt3GmDPN5OR51_m7lD2ZaKuHAeGwF1YW1ATU3cB2UFbErIkQHUe5gyXyZpz_bWI8TnGhUguvF6Ji4DltZkLozqszFQCt7Tn2xhKm4E9onwNTfAfcJsbY2MZZrvYOfHYEJoUhH0/s1600/TolkienPipe.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;289&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh3N3vhINt3GmDPN5OR51_m7lD2ZaKuHAeGwF1YW1ATU3cB2UFbErIkQHUe5gyXyZpz_bWI8TnGhUguvF6Ji4DltZkLozqszFQCt7Tn2xhKm4E9onwNTfAfcJsbY2MZZrvYOfHYEJoUhH0/s320/TolkienPipe.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Suck it Nazi&#39;s!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Unfortunately Tolkien wrote two versions of this letter and
provided them to his British publisher; one was harsh and critical, the other
more tactful. Tolkien instructed his publisher to decide what one should be
sent, and he chose the more tactful missive. We will never know what that letter
contained (as it was destroyed during the war), but I would like to hope that
it still contained something similar to the below quote, taken from his more aggressive
reply to the Germans race questioning:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;tr_bq&quot;&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;“But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I
am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no
ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in
the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore
purely English, and I am an English subject—which should be sufficient. I have
been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and
continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which
I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if
impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in
matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will
no longer be a source of pride”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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I hope this was somewhat insightful.&lt;br /&gt;
MJM&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;*Props to one of my mates who read that previous post, and
managed to get me an updated version of my monogram as a vector graphic, just
like I wanted.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Cheers mate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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