<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:blogger='http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150</id><updated>2024-09-08T10:40:13.088-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Missional Muse</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>26</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-2719479611910774414</id><published>2010-01-15T12:12:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-15T12:34:36.594-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Clarity</title><content type='html'>It&#39;s been over 2 years since I posted to this blog, but a recent comment regarding the blog suggests that I should clarify a couple elements.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. The blog refers to missional, emerging and emergent to refer to churches engaged in service and relevance in the community rather than the Emergent Church, led by Brian McLaren and others). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a quote regarding this in a post: &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Emerging churches are communities that practice the way of Jesus within postmodern cultures. This definition encompasses nine practices. Emerging churches (1) identify with the life of Jesus, (2) transform the secular realm, and (3) live highly communal lives. Because of these three activities, they (4) welcome the stranger, (5) serve with generosity, (6) participate as producers, (7) create as created beings, (8) lead as a body, and (9) take part in spiritual activities. (http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/09/defining-missional-and-emerging.html). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McLaren and the Emergent Village include some doctrinal and practical elements that I do not embrace, so if you&#39;re wondering, read what I write and take that to be my understanding.  This blog primarily is focused on challenging myself and other Christians to be more active in the world to be an influence of reconciliation (2 Cor 5).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Emerging means &quot;coming forth&quot; and at the time of the writing of the blog, this term was not attached to a particular system of Christology as it now is.  I am not going to labor to change the language used in the blog to distinguish this.  In this blog, &quot;emerging&quot; is used interchangeably with missional and emergent primarily because our conversations were engaging the terms in similarly. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The articles in the blog are meant to point us to consider how the church can be relevant in a post-christian society like we encounter especially among those under 30.  I shouldn&#39;t have to make this defense, but after a re-read of all the articles, I believe that the issues discussed are important for the church to discuss and grapple with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am always happy to discuss these with anyone if my reading of the Scripture is in error.  Thanks!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/2719479611910774414/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/2719479611910774414' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/2719479611910774414'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/2719479611910774414'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2010/01/clarity.html' title='Clarity'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-1644910309444234772</id><published>2007-11-18T12:35:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-18T12:48:04.308-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Theology of Discipleship: Part 4</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Discipleship is Spiritual, Relational and Missional&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/10/theology-of-discipleship-part-1.html&quot;&gt;The thread started here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Previously, I’ve proposed that discipleship begins with the central commandments of Christ: Love the Lord your God and Love your neighbor as yourself.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This provides the central guidelines for how God wants us to relate to him: in love.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;God is seeking lovers who will be in relationship with Him in a relational way (read, pray, worship, praise, meditate to KNOW Him) not in a task way (read, pray, worship, praise, meditate to EARN His favor).&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;God has given us 5 billion neighbors who we can practice loving as ourselves (we better start memorizing names).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;This brings us to community.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We need community of various styles, formal and informal, large and small, multi-generational/heterogeneous and homogeneous, with the same gender and with both.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Within the context of these communities – which may be as organized as a church service or a small group and as natural as just some friends or a close friend – we can care for each other and help each other along the journey to love God and love others.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;So, now that we know the basic guidelines and we’re together trying to live it out, here’s some thoughts about some elements for our discipleship.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Spiritual&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Since our discipleship is primarily about knowing Jesus and loving Him, our discipleship is spiritual.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We discover God in many ways (Gary Thomas, &lt;i style=&quot;&quot;&gt;Sacred Pathways&lt;/i&gt;) but there are some central ways that God has given to all of us to know Him and to relate to Him: The Holy Scriptures, prayer, silence, meditation, fasting and I’m sure that I’m missing some others).&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Thus, our spiritual discipleship is about these.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;These don’t fit that well in our task-oriented world, but God wants lovers primarily – like Mary who sat as Jesus’ feet rather than Martha who worked for Jesus.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;My discipleship and the help I give to others must have the spiritual as an element.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Relational&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;“Everything we claim about Jesus is unproven until tested in the midst of relationships.”&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;My friend Loren quoted another Bible teacher one night in a Bible study on Ephesians 5 and I quickly wrote it in the margin of my Bible.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We are relational people who live in the midst of many others all around us.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Even though I live in a rural area with only about 50,000 people in our county, I am surrounded by people – work, neighbors, connections at my kids’ schools, while shopping, etc.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Relationships are a great struggle for many people today.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Marriages dissolve or people live in hurtful homes.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Parents and children, siblings and friends “break up” and don’t talk or get together for years – or ever.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Things get even worse with the many ways that some abuse others and often these others live in it – not knowing how to escape.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Discipleship is also about learning to love others as Christ loves us.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s learning about acting out the teachings and example of Jesus with our neighbors.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s about being the Good Samaritan.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s about turning the other cheek.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s about loving those who don’t love us.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s about forgiveness.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s about peacemaking.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s about a style of relating that is clearly Christlike.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Since this is not natural to us, we must become disciples of Christ in how we relate with everyone around us.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Missional&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;God has given us a Great Commission to make disciples – that others would start the journey of loving God, loving others within the context of community.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Therefore, it must be a part of the discipling process that we be missional – sharing the mission of Christ to the world.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As Christ came to reconcile all to Himself, so we are ambassadors of this reconciliation (2 Cor 5).&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Mission isn’t just oversees and cross-cultural (but it certainly is those things).&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Mission isn’t just for the super Christian.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s for Christ’s followers.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Integrating mission into our sense of discipleship locally and globally (Acts 1:8) is following Christ’s command for making disciples.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;NEXT Time: Organic Model for Discipleship&lt;/p&gt;  -Derek</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/1644910309444234772/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/1644910309444234772' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/1644910309444234772'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/1644910309444234772'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/11/theology-of-discipleship-part-4.html' title='Theology of Discipleship: Part 4'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-9034874036124010904</id><published>2007-11-16T06:13:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-18T06:41:21.433-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Emotionally Healthy Church</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 115%;&quot;&gt;Christy did a paper on &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;The Emotionally Healthy Church&lt;/span&gt; by Peter Scazzero and here are some excerpts that are kind of like cliff notes.  This book discusses emotional health and its place in the process of discipleship and ministry leadership.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 115%;&quot;&gt;- Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 115%;&quot;&gt;Chapter one: The Leader sets the direction for the church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 115%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;Peter Scazzero wrote that his personal life was hurting and yet he pushed through, denying the hurt, bitterness and anger that resulted from broken relationships.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He had been betrayed by people he loved and, because so much of his time and energy went into the church he worked at, his marriage was crumbling.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Because of false belief he had about how Christians should react to conflict, he neglected confronting troublesome people in his ministry. As a result, his ministry was hurting.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;When he allowed God to change him, he began living his life honestly, ministering out of who he was and not by what he could do.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;He began to see positive changes in his church as well. &lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The leader’s lifestyle serves as a model that is passed down to his family and all those who minister with him.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The Leader’s actions speak louder than his words.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;&quot;&gt;Chapter two: Discipleship needs to deal with emotional health.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;Leaders sometimes are not able to apply what they teach to their own lives.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They can get so involved in their ministry that their personal life, as well as their family suffers.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Every Christian, no matter what their level of “spiritual maturity” is, needs to find a setting where they can be emotionally vulnerable.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They need to be honest with what is really going on inside of them because if the leadership is emotionally healthy, then the church can be emotionally healthy as well. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;&quot;&gt;Chapter three:&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Spiritual and emotional health go hand in hand.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;People want to separate emotional health from ministry.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We have decided that emotions are bad and so we do not seek to understand where they are coming from.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This is how there can be pastors who are extremely effective in there ministry while there marriage and family life is falling apart.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They are not dealing with their heart issues that make their relationships suffer.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ministry is no more spiritual than the rest of our lives.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Christians need to deal with the emotional pain and desires that are in their hearts in order to be emotionally healthy. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;&quot;&gt;Chapter four: Inventory of spiritual and emotional maturity&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;For the principles of: Looking beneath the surface, Breaking the power of the past, Accepting the gifts of limits, Embracing grieving and loss and Making incarnation your Model for loving well, I scored as an emotional adult.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I scored as an emotional adolescent on the principle of living in brokenness and vulnerability.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This did not surprise me.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I know that I have a difficult time with accepting criticism in a health way and being vulnerable with people.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I have a strong desire for people’s approval.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;I was made keenly aware of my desire for approval this last week as I was preparing to preach a sermon for Homiletics class.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;No matter how much I reminded myself that any criticism I received would only to serve to help me be a more effective preacher, I felt anxious that I would not “wow” the class.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although in my head, I knew that any criticism I might receive would not change my value as a person, my heart felt that I really needed their approval to feel valuable.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This is an area that God has already brought to my attention and I believe I might be finally allowing him to do some spiritual and emotional surgery on me.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;&quot;&gt;Chapter five: Spiritual and emotional maturity requires looking into who we really are.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;Scazzero refers to a book called “Glittering Images” by Susan Howatch, about a man who will not allow others to see more than the “Glittering Image” that he has made for himself.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In each of us, there is a person we allow others to see, the “glittering image,” that has been polished so that others will see its greatness, and then there is our true selves, which we guard from discovery.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Some are more skilled in the art of shining the image than others.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In order for emotional growth to occur, we have to allow Jesus to get through that “glittering image” so that real change can occur.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This can be an excruciating process.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;&quot;&gt;Chapter six:&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Our families of origin have had a huge impact on our lives.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;Every family, from the healthiest to the most depraved, has failed in some way.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Relationships between each family member effects the way we think and feel.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For us to strive towards emotional health, we must journey back to the family God gave us and pay attention to negative patterns of thought or action that originated with our family of origin.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;One agent of healing is reparenting through the church family where God is our father and we are brothers and sisters.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Unfortunately, reparenting doesn’t always naturally happen in the church because we are often unaware or unwilling to delve into our family pasts&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;&quot;&gt;Chapter seven:&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Leaders need to lead out of brokenness and vulnerability.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;Our normal reaction to our brokenness is to flee, fight or hide.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We flee from our pain by immersing ourselves in some other activity or even ministry to keep from having to face it.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We fight because we are angry at the way God has chosen to answer our prayers or has allowed us to face difficulties.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We hide by covering up our frailties and focus only on our successes.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;God chooses to do great things through our weaknesses.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Often, we assume God will use only our talents and areas of expertise to further his kingdom when, in reality, He will use the broken places in ways we would never have imagined.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;Leaders must be honest about who they really are so that those who follow will learn by example.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;&quot;&gt;Chapter eight:&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Christians must heed the limits that God has put in our lives.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;Whether the limits are small children, age, health or intellect, God gave us limits and expects us to live within them.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;God gave each of our own lives to live.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We need to understand who we are and in what season of life we are in order for us to freely live the life he gave us.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Jesus us a great example of living the life God gave him.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He had many opportunities to proclaim who he was before it was God’s timing but chose not to.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Jesus was tempted to worship Satan in order rule the world but resisted because he knew that God had set limits to how his plan was to be carried out.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Likewise we need to understand God’s limits on our lives.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;&quot;&gt;Chapter nine:&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Grief and loss help us to become more like Christ.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;Our cultural tendency is to attempt to ignore or minimize grief. We are uncomfortable with it and so we pretend it isn’t there or do our best to get through it quickly.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The result is people who are superficial and unwilling to grow from the tragedies in their lives.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If we allow him, God will actually use grief to grow us up into who he created us to be.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We need to take the time to fully experience grief and sorrow so God can do the work in us that needs to be done.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;In June, I sat at a memorial service for my friend, Bonnie, who had died of cancer and left behind a husband and three small children.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I remember stifling sobs, trying to not attract attention to myself.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As I reflected later on, I thought about how people in the Easter world treated emotion in the death of a loved one in contrast to how our culture treats it.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In the Eastern world, emotion is expressed loudly with much mourning and loud cries but here, we quietly mourn.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It is a very private thing, as if we are mourning alone.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I wondered, at my friend’s memorial service how many other people were trying hard to not show emotion and how many would go home and cry unashamed.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I wonder if it would be better for our psyches if we felt allowed to verbally show our grief.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;            &lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;Bonnie died in June of 2007 and I expect to always be moved emotionally when I think or talk about her.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;God worked so much in my grief, there were times when I felt his presence so strongly with me, not taking away my grief, but carrying me through it.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;My plan is to continue walking through the grief process and allow God to use it.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Perhaps he will allow me to help others in their journey as well.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;&quot;&gt;Chapter 10: Christians need to learn to understand other’s points of view without being lost in them.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 200%;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;line-height: 200%;font-size:85%;&quot; &gt;Listening is an art.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In order for us to begin to understand another’s point of view, we need to listen without judgment.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It takes practice to be able to listen to others, consider their concerns seriously, make changes if necessary and not make changes if it is not necessary.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;People will not listen to what we have to say if we do not listen and try to understand where they are coming from.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/9034874036124010904/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/9034874036124010904' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/9034874036124010904'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/9034874036124010904'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/11/emotionally-healthy-church.html' title='The Emotionally Healthy Church'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-3292712855267035644</id><published>2007-11-07T19:11:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-08T21:43:50.922-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Reveal Conference from Willow Creek</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Background (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot; href=&quot;http://www.revealnow.com/&quot;&gt;from www.revealnow.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 2004, Willow Creek was trying to figure out where people were in their spiritual growth and development.  A congregational survey was planned, but unlike previous surveys, this one would benefit from new scientific insights that help organizations measure the unseen—including emotions.  &lt;p&gt;Typical surveys can help you understand the basic demographics of your congregation: &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Life Stage: age, marital status, kids, etc.  &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spiritual background  &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Length of time . . . at your church, following Jesus, etc.  &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Involvement: serving, small groups, services, etc.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;After more than a decade of discovering the basics about the people in their church, the leaders of Willow Creek found there was a way to go deeper. Through the experience and expertise of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.revealnow.com/storyPage.asp?pageid=27&quot;&gt;Eric Arnson&lt;/a&gt;, a survey was developed that measured the hearts of people in the congregation for the first time. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Comment:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not an attempt to reproduce the book or the entire conference, but is simply some excerpts from the conference.  Page numbers refer to slides from the conference.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;My Notes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;1. The Reveal analysis currently profiles 6 basic groups of people (p. 1, 7, 18):&lt;/span&gt; &lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Exploring Christianity: &quot;I believe, but I&#39;m checking it out.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Growing in Christ: &quot;I believe and I&#39;m working it out.&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Close to Christ: &quot;I rely on Jesus daily.&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Christ-Centered: &quot;Jesus is the most important part of my life.&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Early Stalleds:  &quot;I believe in Christ but I haven&#39;t grown lately.&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dissatisfieds: &quot;I&#39;m committed to Jesus, but my church is letting me down.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3sQS-OmZOp9hmR2N1pqlHOsWH-0u8m5HHh_tdFre2ep6Osu2aPVTmJYTQ3j5_7X9BWnfMS-CysowS3E8oHTra2CgcaBoQ6F3vpnHsWmHRevNrRT2KlmJMJWLgv2PdeAU2_OGXBFbeOwY/s1600-h/Reveal-SixProfiles.GIF&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3sQS-OmZOp9hmR2N1pqlHOsWH-0u8m5HHh_tdFre2ep6Osu2aPVTmJYTQ3j5_7X9BWnfMS-CysowS3E8oHTra2CgcaBoQ6F3vpnHsWmHRevNrRT2KlmJMJWLgv2PdeAU2_OGXBFbeOwY/s400/Reveal-SixProfiles.GIF&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130306169435803138&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;    The first four groups represent typical growth patterns, and the Early Stalleds are a segment of group 2 and Dissatisfieds are a segment of groups 3 &amp;amp; 4.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;2. Early Stalleds are 15% of the church:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;They &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;practice spiritual disciplines less&lt;/span&gt; (such as Bible reading) than the Explorers (and all other groups profiled) (slide 8).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;They &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;previously enjoyed spiritual growth&lt;/span&gt; but feel stagnant now (slide 9).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;They have a significantly &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;higher rate of addictions and emotional issues&lt;/span&gt; indicating that there may be significant hindrances to their growth (slide 11).&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_f9DjQIo06fR6wUItp0Wl7g2T1lMS7CMLK9AzjPOnQC6jgWQgAxL3gBkDe8PTIghxsobM9VRJKiJG19nqXGDr6ZJ3U26JFWp2H78EpqIOR5BXKPo40YFrA41UihP586Cw6vj8uPzYu6A/s1600-h/Reveal-Stalleds.GIF&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_f9DjQIo06fR6wUItp0Wl7g2T1lMS7CMLK9AzjPOnQC6jgWQgAxL3gBkDe8PTIghxsobM9VRJKiJG19nqXGDr6ZJ3U26JFWp2H78EpqIOR5BXKPo40YFrA41UihP586Cw6vj8uPzYu6A/s400/Reveal-Stalleds.GIF&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130309429315980818&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;3. Dissatisfieds are 5%-15% of the church (average is 9%):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The are &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;dissatisfied with all major programs&lt;/span&gt; of the church (services, small groups, etc) (slide 13).  This is not due to &quot;entertainment&quot; issues, but is about their growth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;They &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;attend church and other activities&lt;/span&gt; nearly as much as those who indicate satisfaction and growth (slide 14).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;They&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt; serve, give and share Christ&lt;/span&gt; (slide 15).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;These are &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;spiritual, committed people&lt;/span&gt; who love Jesus but they just don&#39;t feel &quot;satisfied&quot; with their current church experience.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Of this category of people, &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;over 60% are actively considering leaving the church&lt;/span&gt; (slide 17).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjmjMCUf9Int6P4bX9R40Xo1FEV0DHSwLsYHESUydiLea3ao7F3zdaVwgIPQlqaZwXNZrCJW1wTcm4j71tokVbJH9rTzUJEnBPw5-rf1sSUbrEPT1-c0hd5WwBO4_20bTBmsUZfgigquSA/s1600-h/Reveal-Dissats.GIF&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjmjMCUf9Int6P4bX9R40Xo1FEV0DHSwLsYHESUydiLea3ao7F3zdaVwgIPQlqaZwXNZrCJW1wTcm4j71tokVbJH9rTzUJEnBPw5-rf1sSUbrEPT1-c0hd5WwBO4_20bTBmsUZfgigquSA/s400/Reveal-Dissats.GIF&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130309931827154466&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;More on this profile below (see header &quot;Keys to Satisfaction&quot;).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;4. The programs of the church become less satisfying as spiritual growth occurs:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Services, Small Groups&lt;/span&gt; mean the most to those profiled as &quot;Close to Christ&quot; and actually &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;become less important&lt;/span&gt; as they continue to mature (slide 21).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Service becomes a key to engagement&lt;/span&gt; amongst the most mature (slide 24).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdoxhzduVAJA7xTptnIq8W0odXZ8SbMJ4w43ljRUMiRaaIDOQiedhO-VpYJP5UV7_-FJDNyw20wjTW5hvLP_ll5UA_HOG2rMDm7ym-cd3sYSJ3GXsmsVrSRap7zKzd1tR1r-U6_0icUdc/s1600-h/Reveal-CatalyticActivities.GIF&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdoxhzduVAJA7xTptnIq8W0odXZ8SbMJ4w43ljRUMiRaaIDOQiedhO-VpYJP5UV7_-FJDNyw20wjTW5hvLP_ll5UA_HOG2rMDm7ym-cd3sYSJ3GXsmsVrSRap7zKzd1tR1r-U6_0icUdc/s400/Reveal-CatalyticActivities.GIF&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130310567482314290&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Daily spiritual growth practices &lt;/span&gt;increasingly become catalysts to growth.  As people mature, programs become less important, but deep time with God and with other spiritually-minded people become the fuel (slides 26-29).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjf2G8EYPjcEfBu_255WcfHYV_r2meBQQmSejhfRoukO4jqghfL-DUd8NXFrKg8i1gPTKnu2F8gS0FYLJstKHdE_3H1Fm0MDA51JqRXIU7IMpwbYEcxhXYNxQSusZKf0tamod6COrGZ1l4/s1600-h/Reveal-CatalyticPractices.GIF&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjf2G8EYPjcEfBu_255WcfHYV_r2meBQQmSejhfRoukO4jqghfL-DUd8NXFrKg8i1gPTKnu2F8gS0FYLJstKHdE_3H1Fm0MDA51JqRXIU7IMpwbYEcxhXYNxQSusZKf0tamod6COrGZ1l4/s400/Reveal-CatalyticPractices.GIF&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130311349166362178&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The impact of the small group and other similar forms of community carry less impact and the &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;value of close spiritual friends or mentors increases&lt;/span&gt; (slide 27).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_nmBR2kfRnyQEr37kcQ_RRTC4h-NxFZHcl_gLQKec0oflqxtE2fJODBpwuDVErSkW69OEgAOPsBN65-_Qk8hoXTQn40HzG2bRRb6jEyD0ckXR1Kzy1F0XDigH0YafOuvtpZnZwAqhz3g/s1600-h/Reveal-Mentors.GIF&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_nmBR2kfRnyQEr37kcQ_RRTC4h-NxFZHcl_gLQKec0oflqxtE2fJODBpwuDVErSkW69OEgAOPsBN65-_Qk8hoXTQn40HzG2bRRb6jEyD0ckXR1Kzy1F0XDigH0YafOuvtpZnZwAqhz3g/s400/Reveal-Mentors.GIF&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130312126555442770&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_nmBR2kfRnyQEr37kcQ_RRTC4h-NxFZHcl_gLQKec0oflqxtE2fJODBpwuDVErSkW69OEgAOPsBN65-_Qk8hoXTQn40HzG2bRRb6jEyD0ckXR1Kzy1F0XDigH0YafOuvtpZnZwAqhz3g/s1600-h/Reveal-Mentors.GIF&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;5. Some summaries about spiritual growth in these profiles (slide 31):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Spiritual growth is about increasing relational closeness to Christ &lt;/span&gt;and can&#39;t be measured exclusively by behaviors you see.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A church&#39;s &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;most active volunteers, donors and evangelists&lt;/span&gt; come from the &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;most spiritually advanced segments&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Churches appear to be most effective in the early stages of spiritual growth.&lt;/span&gt;  Their role then shifts from being a primary influence to a secondary one.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Personal spiritual practices&lt;/span&gt; are the building blocks for a Christ-centered life.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Pain and difficulty in life &lt;/span&gt;can be times of exceptional spiritual growth.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;6. Keys to Satistfaction (slide 34):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;Reveal indicated 5 (and a half) key elements for spiritual growth:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Challenges me&lt;/span&gt; to grow and take next steps (56%).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Helps me to &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;understand the Bible&lt;/span&gt; in greater depth (55%).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Helps me &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;develop a personal relationship&lt;/span&gt; with Christ (51%).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Helps me &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;apply the Bible&lt;/span&gt; to my life (50%).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Provides &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;compelling worship services&lt;/span&gt; (49%).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Provides strong &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;programs for children&lt;/span&gt; to learn about God (35%).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;    #6 was high among people with children, but since only 58% of respondents had kids, that lowers the numbers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;    Nothing else was above 27%&lt;/span&gt; (and the next two are &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;serve in the church&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;serve people in need&lt;/span&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   KEY: In these top 5, the range of success varied among the participating churches (slide 40)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4qxNnRMxMwSXibBqipEQrKnUKv8AcB1YIGUnvcM5kZWjnwAjLUHihyFms0dAx2NwSmJXN-wsmzcnrHds1Csn2Aez2DP58mejTCTqnBbZlzq_aCvzar-j9GYVIICJWy74DHRO7Zvek1Gw/s1600-h/Reveal-Satisfactions.GIF&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4qxNnRMxMwSXibBqipEQrKnUKv8AcB1YIGUnvcM5kZWjnwAjLUHihyFms0dAx2NwSmJXN-wsmzcnrHds1Csn2Aez2DP58mejTCTqnBbZlzq_aCvzar-j9GYVIICJWy74DHRO7Zvek1Gw/s400/Reveal-Satisfactions.GIF&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5130314712125754978&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;It was suggested that if a church focuses on these items (in the context of ministry to adults), then we will increase the &quot;satisfaction level&quot; of people at every level of spiritual growth, because this is literally what most people are really looking for in their church to provide.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Commentary&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Dissatisfieds and Early Stallers are the &quot;swing states&quot; at our churches.&lt;/span&gt;  The difference between good and great may be how effectively the church is able to convert the dissatisfieds back to a period of joyful growth (Christ-Centeredness) and the Early Stallers back to growing in Christ.  Therefore, specific ministry strategies should be targeted at these groups:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dissatisfieds: Do the 5 major things better (see #6).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Early Stallers: Bring them back to the cross (&quot;He who is forgiven much, loves much&quot;) and help them seek healing for issues and addictions that they are suffering with.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;I was surprised at &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;how little difference church and small group attendance make&lt;/span&gt; in spiritual growth and satisfaction.  There&#39;s some difference, but the answer doesn&#39;t seem to be &quot;get more involved&quot; or &quot;join a small group.&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Deep spiritual relationships and spiritual mentors&lt;/span&gt; are real needs that, if met, can help the most spiritual and the dissatisfieds to grow.  This isn&#39;t a program, but is more organic.  Thinking back, all of my deeply impacting relationships fit this type of category, but less than 40% of Christians enjoy this type of relationship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;People want the &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;challenge to know and obey Jesus&lt;/span&gt;.  We&#39;re not to call them to a program or simply to serve the church&#39;s interests.  We&#39;re to call them to follow Jesus in it&#39;s many forms!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Hawkins recommends that&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt; every ministry should be evaluated &lt;/span&gt;in how it helps these groups move to the next level and how effective they are at the 5 most important keys. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;-Derek</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/3292712855267035644/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/3292712855267035644' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/3292712855267035644'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/3292712855267035644'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/11/reveal-conference-from-willow-creek.html' title='Reveal Conference from Willow Creek'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3sQS-OmZOp9hmR2N1pqlHOsWH-0u8m5HHh_tdFre2ep6Osu2aPVTmJYTQ3j5_7X9BWnfMS-CysowS3E8oHTra2CgcaBoQ6F3vpnHsWmHRevNrRT2KlmJMJWLgv2PdeAU2_OGXBFbeOwY/s72-c/Reveal-SixProfiles.GIF" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-1442595345181343539</id><published>2007-11-06T15:08:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-06T15:13:12.117-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Spiritual Maturity Affects How We Serve</title><content type='html'>Spiritual Maturity Affects How We Serve but not in the way we might think.  Read below from a Blog from Willow Creek.&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;entry-title-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://blog.revealnow.com/reveal/2007/08/a-chance-to-ser.html&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Chance to Serve&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;entry-author&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;entry-source-title-parent&quot;&gt;from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed/http%3A%2F%2Fblog.revealnow.com%2Freveal%2Fatom.xml&quot; class=&quot;entry-source-title&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;REVEAL Blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; by &lt;span class=&quot;entry-author-name&quot;&gt;Greg Hawkins&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;entry-body&quot;&gt;&lt;div id=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;item-body&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;I would like to resume the conversation I started last Tuesday about needs. Specifically about what people said they wanted from their church. [Got a bit sidetracked. Power out for 45 hours. Basement flooded.] &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;I last talked about the top needs. Today I want to discuss the two needs that increase the most across the spiritual continuum. And they are very related to each other. The two things that rise in importance the most are “Provide opportunities to serve in church ministries” and “Provide opportunities to serve people in need” (see below).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;Survey Question&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;“Below is a list of benefits a church could provide. Please select the five most important to you at this time.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;table style=&quot;border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;&quot; border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 154.05pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;205&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td style=&quot;border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 90.15pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;120&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;Exploring&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;Christianity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td style=&quot;border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 90.2pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;120&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;Growing in Christ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td style=&quot;border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 90.2pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;120&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;Close to Christ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td style=&quot;border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 90.2pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;120&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;Christ Centered&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 154.05pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;205&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;Provide opportunities to serve in church ministries.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td style=&quot;border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 90.15pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;120&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;16%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td style=&quot;border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 90.2pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;120&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;26%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td style=&quot;border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 90.2pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;120&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;32%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td style=&quot;border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 90.2pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;120&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;35%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 154.05pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;205&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;Provide opportunities to serve people in need.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td style=&quot;border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 90.15pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;120&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;22%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td style=&quot;border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 90.2pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;120&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;24%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td style=&quot;border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 90.2pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;120&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;28%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td style=&quot;border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 90.2pt;&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; width=&quot;120&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;32%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;So what does this mean? Well, as someone draws closer to Christ, the things of Christ matter more to them. They are willing to “die to self” in order to increasingly follow one of Christ’s central commands – to serve one another. They are willing to give of themselves for the good of others. That’s part of what I think it means. What do you think?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;And what does it mean for the church. Are we giving people a chance to serve others? Are we helping them identify their gifts and passions so they can focus their energy? Are we challenging them to develop those gifts to the fullest? Are we encouraging and celebrating them?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;Something to think about as you build a church that catalyzes people all along the spiritual journey. A journey whose final destination is a deep, abiding intimacy with Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Helvetica;&quot;&gt;Greg&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/1442595345181343539/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/1442595345181343539' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/1442595345181343539'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/1442595345181343539'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/11/spiritual-maturity-affects-how-we-serve.html' title='Spiritual Maturity Affects How We Serve'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-6130583439839417712</id><published>2007-10-29T09:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-29T10:12:38.869-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Boiling Point: Conference on Climate Change at Multnomah</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;http://www.new-wineskins.org/Events/Archives/2007-2008/BoilingPoint-transparent.png&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 219px; height: 70px;&quot; src=&quot;http://www.new-wineskins.org/Events/Archives/2007-2008/BoilingPoint-transparent.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;On Saturday, Multnomah&#39;s New Wine, New Wineskins organization hosted a symposium on global climate change called &quot;Boiling Point&quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.new-wineskins.org/Events/Archives/2007-2008/BoilingPoint.html&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I attended 2 of the 3 plenary sessions and 1 of 6 workshops offered during the day.  Here&#39;s some thoughts:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Plenary #1: Paul Metzger, professor at Multnomah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The world has made environmental stewardship a moral issue.  Evangelicals should make it also a spiritual issue.  Liberals often believe that evangelicals are disengaged from the real world concerns and only care about their fiefdoms and thus they don&#39;t buy our picture of Jesus.  Young evangelicals are environmentally-aware.  The political parties are adjusting to this.  Churches should likewise adjust to give these believers a platform for serving our world through the church -- not in spite of it.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;There is much debate within conservative circles (popularized by Rush, Hannity and O&#39;Reilley) about whether there is actually any climate change at all.  Metzger made a great point -- it&#39;s about &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;prudence&lt;/span&gt;.  Prudence suggests that fossil fuel energies, even if they aren&#39;t causing climate change, are dirty and unhealthy and are a limited resource.  Prudence suggests that we are wiser if we continue to implement cleaner energies.  This is a very strong point.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Where there is environmental polution (water, air, etc) and if there were to be (some may say there already is) climate change, this will affect the &quot;least of these&quot; first.  The poorest of the poor are the ones who have the least resources to move themselves and their family away from harm and to have the basics of life.  So, Christians are fulfilling the charge that Jesus gave to love the least of these when we provide a healthy environment.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;In 2001, poll of evangelicals by Gallup said that only 7% were concerned about the AIDS epidemic in Africa.  Bono criticized evangelicals for turning a blind eye toward this issue.  In 2006, Bono appeared at Willow Creek&#39;s Leadership Summit and praised evangelicals for now leading the way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Plenary #2: Richard Cizik, VP of Govt. Affairs at National Assn of Evangelicals&lt;/span&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The church needs a &quot;conversion&quot; to understanding its responsibilities from Genesis 1 about stewardship of the earth.  This is a full understanding of the gospel.  The apocalyptic is not intended to paralyze us (as in suggesting that the earth will be fine as long as God wants it to be and then Jesus will return) but to spur us to action (Matt 24: be ready).  Cizik suggests that it is our responsibility to lead the charge on social issues such as Christians did in the fight against slavery 150 years ago.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Resources:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&quot;The Great Warming&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thegreatwarming.com&quot;&gt;www.thegreatwarming.com (DVD)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Serve God Save the Planet&lt;/span&gt; by J. Matthew Sleeth, MD (book)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Workshop: Peter Illyn, Exec Dir of Restoring Eden&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Key issue: How does &quot;Creation Care&quot; fulfill the purpose of the church (Illyn&#39;s suggested purpose of church: love God - worship, love people of God - community, love everyone else - mission)?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Suggestions for worshiping God through understanding nature:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Visit places of beauty and contemplate/discuss His creation: Zoos, Parks, Gardens.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Remember that man is made in the image of God from the dust of the earth.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Suggestions for serving each other through stewardship:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tree planting / Rehab of affected micro ecosystems (stream clean-up).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Recycling / Energy Audits for Public / Light bulb Conversion&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Clean-ups / Litter Removal&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Partnering with local/regional organizations that are doing enviro projects.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Light bulb Conversion:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Converting 5 heavily used bulbs to fluorescent replacements.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If every household in US did this, 5 coal burning plants could be shut down.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;My takeaways:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Our theology of mission/evangelism (and discipleship) must address:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Our stewardship of the earth (Genesis 1).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Our response to the needs of the poor (Matt 25, Luke 9).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Our response to social injustice (contemporary slave trade, child prostitution and other abuses, recent news about &quot;rape war&quot; in the Congo).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Our practice of this theology of mission must be both local and global.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Local:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Loving God through His Creation (Education of what God has done).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Serving Each Other through Stewardship (Taking action to protect the environment).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Supporting Environmental Issues (advocacy to government and business).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Global:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Determine as an individual and as a church how you will act out your theology in the world to care for the poor and exercise good stewardship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;One heavy criticism of the movement of environmental concern among evangelicals suggest that these people are &quot;earth worshippers&quot; or are worshipping the creation rather than the creator (1 Cor 1).  The primary response was that this is about stewardship not about worship.  In addition, it was pointed out correctly that our churches do not struggle with earth worship but stuff worship -- materialism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;-Derek</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/6130583439839417712/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/6130583439839417712' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/6130583439839417712'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/6130583439839417712'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/10/boiling-point-conference-on-climate.html' title='Boiling Point: Conference on Climate Change at Multnomah'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-7237157193093715765</id><published>2007-10-25T12:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-25T12:48:12.124-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Leadership Divided by Ron Carucci</title><content type='html'>On Monday, in class, we had a visit by Ron &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-error&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_0&quot;&gt;Carucci&lt;/span&gt;.  Ron is the COO of Mars Hill Graduate School and is business consultant.  He recently released his book, &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Leadership Divided: What Emerging Leaders Need and What You Might Be Missing&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-error&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_1&quot;&gt;Carucci&lt;/span&gt; is an expert on the interaction be &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_2&quot;&gt;incumbent&lt;/span&gt; leadership (primarily baby boomers who run companies and churches today) and emerging leadership (people in their 20&#39;s and 30&#39;s).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Central to &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-error&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_3&quot;&gt;Carucci&#39;s&lt;/span&gt; thesis are the differences of values that cause misunderstanding and conflict between these groups of leaders.  Some of these differences include:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_4&quot;&gt;Incumbent&lt;/span&gt; leaders tend to safeguard their position and its privilege through a carefully crafted public image.  Emerging leaders value openness and equality.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_5&quot;&gt;Incumbent&lt;/span&gt; leaders tend to view the emerging leader as disrespectful and &quot;not a team player&quot; whereas the emerging leader doesn&#39;t give respect unless its earned, and may not demonstrate respect through quiet submission, but through &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_6&quot;&gt;thoughtful&lt;/span&gt; debate followed by full buy-in.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_7&quot;&gt;Incumbent&lt;/span&gt; leaders don&#39;t usually invite emerging leaders to the table as a peer, but often only for fact-finding or opinions.  Emerging leaders long for a seat at the table to bring their gifts to the mix.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_8&quot;&gt;Incumbent&lt;/span&gt; leaders often misunderstand the big dreams (&quot;we can change the world&quot;) and seemingly excessive self-confidence as arrogance whereas the emerging leader just believes that the world can be changed by even a single person.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;In reality, &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-error&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_9&quot;&gt;Carucci&lt;/span&gt; says, we all display a mix of these characteristics, and I can certainly see all of these in me -- often depending on the context (see below).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here&#39;s some strategies for &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_10&quot;&gt;Incumbents&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Know that respect doesn&#39;t come with the position.  Earn respect each day through listening and responding.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Risk inviting divergent opinions to the table.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Demonstrate sincere gratitude and respect for the contributions.  &quot;That&#39;s great.  How did you do that?&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Here&#39;s some strategies for &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-error&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_11&quot;&gt;Emergents&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;When invited to the table, come to the table.  Don&#39;t refuse or &quot;make them pay&quot; or resent any limitations placed upon you.  It&#39;s growth to be invited.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Develop skills in sharing vision and ideas in an honoring way that educates and assists the &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_12&quot;&gt;incumbent&lt;/span&gt; leaders to process the ideas and how they could change their own view of the world.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Honor the contributions and foundation that the &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_13&quot;&gt;incumbents&lt;/span&gt; have prepared.  They aren&#39;t (usually) leaders for no reason.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Personally, I feel like I live in both of these worlds.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At work, the company is primarily led by younger people.  Our senior leadership is between 37 and 44 (I was 28 and Zach was 31 when Front Porch began in 1998).  I feel like an &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_14&quot;&gt;incumbent&lt;/span&gt; leader in this context because: I&#39;m a founder in the company so I have seniority over everyone except Zach and we&#39;ve had a pretty young organization over the years.  A quick thought about the 20+ people who work in my part of the company indicates this as the distribution of ages: (20&#39;s: 9, 30&#39;s: 10, 40&#39;s: 3, 50&#39;s:3).  So, I&#39;m certainly in the top half (median age) of the group.  I tend to display characteristics descriptive of &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_15&quot;&gt;incumbent&lt;/span&gt; leaders in &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-error&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_16&quot;&gt;Carucci&#39;s&lt;/span&gt; book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At church, the leadership is more senior.  As an elder at Sierra Bible, I&#39;m about 10 years younger than the next younger leader.  In this context, I clearly feel and act as an emerging leader would.  This can be frustrating because I often feel that we&#39;re speaking different languages on the board.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, being aware of these contexts and the different roles and relationships that I engage in as a result is very helpful to my ability to navigate through the waters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/7237157193093715765/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/7237157193093715765' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/7237157193093715765'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/7237157193093715765'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/10/leadership-divided-by-ron-carucci.html' title='Leadership Divided by Ron Carucci'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-3148628513807610254</id><published>2007-10-21T15:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-23T21:52:04.371-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Theology of Discipleship: Part 3 -- Community</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href=&quot;http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/10/theology-of-discipleship-part-1.html&quot;&gt;This thread started here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Two Models:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my second text, Ed Stetzer&#39;s &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Planting Missional Churches&lt;/span&gt;, the author discusses sequential and non-sequential discipleship methods.  A familiar example of sequential discipleship is the Saddleback L.I.F.E system.  The strengths of the sequential system is that their is a clear plan for growth and a method by which classes and programs may be constructed around it.  In addition it is clearly communicable (baseball diamond, etc).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;http://derekmaxson.googlepages.com/nhfdiagram.GIF&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 400px;&quot; src=&quot;http://derekmaxson.googlepages.com/nhfdiagram.GIF&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Contrasted is the non-sequential philosophy wherein it is understood that people join at many places on the road.  Stetzer references New Horizons Fellowship&#39;s approach to sequential discipleship.  NHF places an equal focus on six areas of growth: worship, education, fellowship, missions, evangelism, ministry.  All of these items are in the Purpose-Driven/Sequential model, so we&#39;re clearly not talking about a different understanding of what is included in spiritual growth.  However, there is a difference in how this theology of discipleship will play out in a church.  The non-sequential model, also known as the organic model, allows people to come into the process wherever they would best fit -- probably the new disciple needs to grow in all the areas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Alternative Model:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As mentioned in the prior post (&lt;a href=&quot;http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/10/theology-of-discipleship-part-1.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), it is suggested that Community is the most important element of discipleship.  When Jesus called his disciples, he called them to relationship -- to a community where Jesus and his disciples were together. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;So they pulled their boats up on shore, left everything and followed him (Luke 5:11).&lt;/blockquote&gt;If community is the first element of discipleship, then a primary role of church leaders and church members (or owners as Vintage 21 church describes its members - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintage21.com/about/owners/&quot;&gt;read more&lt;/a&gt;) is to build communities for themselves and others.  Here&#39;s some thoughts about these communities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Communities have many sizes:&lt;br /&gt;According to Joseph R. Meyer, author of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;The Search to Belong&lt;/span&gt;, there are four kinds of spaces that people live in:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Public Space: Anonymous places that individual participate in without connection to others.  One in a crowd or a few in a crowd such as sporting events or other large events where it is unlikely that your group will find others they know.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Social Space: A place for casual, surface relationships, the building of a group of acquaintances and friends.  A large group such as a church service or large fellowship group in a church can be this type if people have friends and acquaintances.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Personal Space: Private shared experiences but not fully transparent.  Individuals together on a trip who will have shared memories that others could enjoy but would never be a part of.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Intimate Space: This is where we are naked and transparent.  We have very few relationships of this type.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Communities have many faces&lt;br /&gt;As was previously blogged, people enter into Christ along many paths and roads.  Thus each community will have a unique personality that is a composite of its members.  According to one author on small groups, a small group forms this mesh within about 10 gatherings of the community.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Communities have many purposes:&lt;br /&gt;According to the face of the group, there may be different primary reasons for the community&#39;s existence.  Some communities may exist more for mission, others for growth, others for dealing with a relationships or a common concern (such as a recovery group or a parents&#39; group).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;The Early Community Church&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the truths of the New Testament is the communal nature of the church. Even from the very beginning of the church in the book of Acts, we see the community forming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Acts 2:41-47:&lt;br /&gt;Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.&lt;blockquote&gt;They devoted themselves to the apostles&#39; teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. &lt;span class=&quot;VerseNum&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;veryone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts,praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Typically, I have focused on the activities of church (verse 42: teaching, fellowship, breaking bread, prayer) in this passage and have referenced the communal elements mentioned in the other verses. However, it should safe to say, exegetically, that the theme of community is the dominant concept in this passage. So, let&#39;s examine community in the concept of discipleship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice how the activities are placed within community: communal sharing of possessions, giving, meeting everyday, meetings in homes, eating together, praising together. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have typically preached that if we, the community, do the activities mentioned in verse 42, then the community will grow (adding to the number daily).  However, it may be a better understanding to suggest that a truly organic community of people who are also practicing these things will see this kind of blessing from God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, in this Theology of Discipleship, community development is HUGE:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Everyone needs community.  Community is formed in various ways.  This is not a plug for small groups -- though these are great for community.  This is a plug for the continual emphasis of community within the context of the church and the need for each believer to be connected to a community AND the need for these communities to build bridges to nonchristians so that they can evaluate for themselves whether God is real and lives in us.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Church leadership is like e-Harmony.  We&#39;re here to get people together into communities so that they can experience redemptive grace from others.  New connection points (new groups, growing groups, splitting groups) must be created for new people to join.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Communities must be about all the elements of discipleship.  Typically, I have thought of small groups as growth areas (Bible, prayer, fellowship).  However, I think that the groups must be about the Spiritual, Relational and Missional.  This is the same as suggesting that all the small groups are about all the areas of Purpose-Driven (Grounded, Growing, Giving, Going).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;Next time: The Spiritual, Relational and Missional.  How they fit in community.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/3148628513807610254/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/3148628513807610254' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/3148628513807610254'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/3148628513807610254'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/10/theology-of-discipleship-part-3.html' title='Theology of Discipleship: Part 3 -- Community'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-264758419272055692</id><published>2007-10-21T14:40:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-21T15:02:06.424-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Church Visits and Conference With The Penners</title><content type='html'>It&#39;s been a busy week, so here&#39;s the update.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;1. Mars Hill Seattle (Oct 14th). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    We were in Seattle for the weekend last week and visited Mars Hill.  This was our second time visiting at Mars Hill and our first at the new West Seattle campus.  The West Seattle campus was the long-time Presbyterian Church in that neighborhood and the facility was acquired largely through a gift from the original congregation.  The worship was live and the sermon was piped in from the main campus (live?).  The newly remodeled facilities were very nice and the children&#39;s programs were great for our kids and VERY well organized!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;2. Westport (Oct 21st).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Today we visited Westport Church (Tanasborne area near Beaverton and Hillsboro) which is a church plant of less than 2 years.  We were super-welcomed at WP.  As soon as we walked in, we were welcomed and helped with getting our kids into their classes -- which they all enjoyed and learned in.  After getting our kids into their room (BTW: the layout of the kids area immediately upon entering the building is GREAT).  WP has been in this new facility for about a year and it is a very nice tech building that has been finished for use by the church.  The worship and the service were modern and inclusive with great participation from the people (much more participatory than some of the other missional churches we&#39;ve visited).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;3. Marriage Conference with Cliff and Joyce Penner.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    We attended Imago Dei&#39;s marriage conference that featured Cliff and Joyce Penner, who have authored a number of books including &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;The Gift of Sex&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;How to get Your Sex Life off to a Great Start&lt;/span&gt;.  While we thought that it was going to be a marriage conference with some sex stuff, it ended up being essentially a 12 hour conference on sex in marriage.  The conference was great and I would recommend it for all couples who want God&#39;s perspective on sex and want to have better sex (who doesn&#39;t want that!).  It might seem like this conference is good for people who &quot;like sex too much&quot; or who need some serious help in that area, but I think that it&#39;s good for newlyweds and oldlyweds (perhaps oddlyweds as well) alike because their program is GREAT on communication.  They would teach for about 15-20 minutes at a time, then provide 5-10 minutes for individually completing a questionaire on the topic then 10-15 minutes for the couple to discuss alone (not group discussions here!).  We benefitted from all these communication times as well as the topics presented by the Penners.  They Rock!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/264758419272055692/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/264758419272055692' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/264758419272055692'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/264758419272055692'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/10/church-visits-and-conference-with.html' title='Church Visits and Conference With The Penners'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-2411276493261011788</id><published>2007-10-11T12:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-11T13:27:19.258-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Theology of Discipleship: Part 2</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href=&quot;http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/10/theology-of-discipleship-part-1.html&quot;&gt;This thread started here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Last time, the focus was that we all have different journeys and thus the changes that are required in our lives are somewhat unique for each one of us as we follow Christ in discipleship.  This time, I want to look at some of the common elements to our journeys.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Bible must become the primary path through which we discover who Jesus is and how we live our lives in Christ.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Since the Bible is very words of God, we will discover Him more easily and more accurately through reading, studying and meditating on His word.  New believers need a little help getting started because starting in Genesis may become difficult after too long (Leviticus if not sooner).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;As &quot;Christians,&quot; we are followers of Jesus -- we are intended to imitate His words, actions and attitudes.  There is nowhere better to meet our Savior than by discovering His life in the gospels.  If we did nothing but read and study the gospels, we may not get a full picture of Scripture or of revelation but we would certainly know Jesus and His heart well!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Prayer must become the path through which we express our faith in God and bring our praise, confessions and requests.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Since discipleship is a relationship with the teacher, we follow Jesus.  We need the two-way communication with God that prayer offers.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Prayer consists in a minimal sense of:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Worship: Declaring the greatness of God and thanking Him for all His blessings.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Confession: Confessing sin and enjoying forgiveness.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Requests: Expressing faith in God&#39;s ability to provide, fix problems and work miracles.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The practice of prayer should be simple and extemporaneous.  Too many times, prayer is taught like a morning workout routine.  We pray at a certain time, in a certain way, using certain methods.  Let&#39;s just teach people to talk with God in a natural way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jesus gave His 2 guiding commandments: &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your mind&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Love your neighbor as yourself&lt;/span&gt;.  (Matt 22:36ff)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;If we seek to love God, we can evaluate if we are giving everything to Him.  So much of Christian piety can be based on this verse.  Martin Luther said that breaking any commandment pretty much involves breaking the first commandment (Thou shalt have no other gods before Me).  ALL my heart.  ALL my soul.  ALL my mind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If we strive to love our neighbor with the depth that Christ is asking of us, we couldn&#39;t steal, gossip, hate or worse.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;I guess I&#39;m suggesting that this is the place to start for people who are starting or re-starting on the path of discipleship.  These are the basic building blocks of discipleship -- following Christ.  Certainly there is much more to discipleship and following Christ but perhaps this is enough to start without creating a burden.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps this is like in Acts 15 when the church had a debate about the requirements for the inclusion of gentiles into the previously Jewish church.  Some believed that the gentiles must be circumcised in order to be included (probably just the men) while others believed that they should just follow Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As Peter said, &quot;Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear?  No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are (Acts 15:10-11).”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Scope Creep&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I work in the computer software industry and we have a term called &quot;Scope Creep.&quot;  Scope is the process of designating the amount of work in any given piece of software.  So, we get a list of requirements and these get discussed and debated until a document of Scope is created.  Scope Creep is when more &quot;little&quot; things &quot;creep&quot; into the scope.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes, software needs to be done quickly and a small scope is chosen to get just essentials.  At other times, a larger scope is chosen, to produce a more fully completed piece of software.  Both paths are correct, but they are based upon the conditions at the time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some discipleship methodologies try to teach too much too soon and build a new believer with lots in the head, but the heart is not developed well enough yet.  Also, many new believers don&#39;t want a &quot;college&quot; class in the Bible (I&#39;ve seen some people scared off by these kind of programs). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These basic principles, getting to know Jesus through the Bible and prayer, and focusing on the 2 greatest commandments give a manageable foundation for the new believer.  As for all the other GREAT discipleship elements (memorization, meditation, further study, etc.), they are built upon the foundation at different places on the journey.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;How does this fit into the church?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Typically, discipleship happens in classes or groups that start periodically.  My suggestion is that a basic lesson on these essentials become a part of the community structure of the church.  Almost any community can provide this foundation.  Small groups, Sunday School, ministry teams, women&#39;s studies, men&#39;s studies.  So, when someone decides to start a relationship with Jesus, he or she should be included in a community through which this basic information.  If Bob and Suzie&#39;s neighbors Stan &amp;amp; Jill become believers, Bob &amp;amp; Suzie involve them in a community (perhaps a home small group), and that first night is just for sharing the foundation.  This serves as both instruction to Stan &amp;amp; Jill, a reminder to everyone else in the group of the essentials of the faith and the opportunity for everyone in the group to come together around each other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next post: Community in the Theology of Discipleship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/2411276493261011788/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/2411276493261011788' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/2411276493261011788'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/2411276493261011788'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/10/theology-of-discipleship-part-2_11.html' title='Theology of Discipleship: Part 2'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-5409914999727381769</id><published>2007-10-08T19:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T08:15:21.467-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Theology of Discipleship: Part 1</title><content type='html'>This was a great weekend for thinking through what it means to help people mature in Christ -- discipleship.  I&#39;m reading &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Planting Missional Churches&lt;/span&gt; by Ed Stetzer.  He had some great things to say about missional discipleship which began a bunch of gears turning in my mind.  I then had the opportunity to discuss at length (much length!) with Zach &amp;amp; Holly Britton and Zach&#39;s parents, Doug and Skeeter.  We stayed up until the wee hours talking about these things.  I&#39;m going to split the thoughts up into a few posts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;http://www.prague.net/gallery/vysehrad-park/images/stoned_paths_at_vysehrad.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;cursor: pointer; width: 160px;&quot; src=&quot;http://www.prague.net/gallery/vysehrad-park/images/stoned_paths_at_vysehrad.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; align=&quot;left&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Part 1: Many Paths&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We all have taken a different journey on our way.  There are 3 common points on our journeys in Christ: (1) Birth, (2) Salvation, (3) Going Home.  Along the way, before and after salvation, we all have different stories and issues that we have dealt with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I went through a discipleship program as a teen, and when I engaged people in discipleship when I was a youth pastor, the goal was to plug in a great deal of content and memorization.  The Navigators material that we used was based upon developing spiritual disciplines through Bible reading, study, memorization and other systematic approaches.  The program I was in had four books -- each 12 weeks in length.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The question that I raise now is not about the value of the Navigator&#39;s program -- I still remember some of the verses that I memorized and there was great value in the study.  This kind of discipleship is good, but it&#39;s not for everyone.  However, all of us must be discipled.  We must become true disciples of Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/195069/2/istockphoto_195069_many_paths_cross.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 320px;&quot; src=&quot;http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/195069/2/istockphoto_195069_many_paths_cross.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The point of this post is that discipleship training is a process with many facets and approaches.  People who are in recovery or need to be in recovery need their discipleship to address this issue.  Another may need their discipleship to help them to become a better spouse or parent.  Others may need to be taught in such a way as to re-educate from having been a part of a religion that is very different from Christianity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One size doesn&#39;t fit all when it comes to blue jeans and discipleship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next post: What all new believers need.  (Is that a contradiction with this post?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/5409914999727381769/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/5409914999727381769' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/5409914999727381769'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/5409914999727381769'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/10/theology-of-discipleship-part-1.html' title='Theology of Discipleship: Part 1'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-8562177873329464658</id><published>2007-10-02T15:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-02T15:56:01.363-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Visit with Jeremy Erb, church planter from The Table</title><content type='html'>Jeremy Erb came to speak to our class on Monday.  In 2003, he planted The Table, an Acts 29 network church plant.  The church is located in north Portland.  Here&#39;s a couple thoughts from his presentation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Too many church planters want to start the &quot;anti-church.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;     He has talked with many planters who know what they don&#39;t want their church to be (examples: mega-church, dead church, etc.) but not enough that know what they want their church to be.  It is essential to develop a biblical ecclesiology and build the church around that. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Church Planting is a discipleship strategy not just an evangelistic strategy.&lt;br /&gt;     This was the most thought-provoking element of his presentation for me.  According to Barna, the most effective evangelism/discipleship size for a church is 250 people.  Apparently this is because there is critical mass of people but not too big such that people can be lost.  Thus, The Table has strategically chosen to plant churches every 200 people.  They are currently launching their first local plant (about 20 miles away) and want to start another in 2008.  &lt;br /&gt;     The underlying principles were the most interesting.  A church must create these 3 things:&lt;br /&gt;       - NEW opportunities for people to hear the gospel -- both from the pulpit and from people in the church.  They must hear it in language and see it in deeds.&lt;br /&gt;       - NEW opportunities to connect -- time and place for people to make friends and to live life together.  Small groups, missional communities.&lt;br /&gt;       - NEW opportunities to serve -- create new ministries where people can give themselves to a ground-breaking effort so that people will live in faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/8562177873329464658/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/8562177873329464658' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/8562177873329464658'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/8562177873329464658'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/10/visit-with-jeremy-erb-church-planter.html' title='Visit with Jeremy Erb, church planter from The Table'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-5962982466658545598</id><published>2007-09-30T20:36:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-30T20:41:25.497-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Missional Church by Gruder</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe style=&quot;width: 120px; height: 240px;&quot; src=&quot;http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=dereatmult-20&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;p=8&amp;amp;l=as1&amp;amp;asins=0802843506&amp;amp;fc1=000000&amp;amp;IS2=1&amp;amp;lt1=_blank&amp;amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;amp;bc1=000000&amp;amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;amp;f=ifr&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;left&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;The first text for Emerging Church Leadership at Multnomah was &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Missional Church&lt;/span&gt; by Gruder, et. al.  Here is a link to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://derekmaxson.googlepages.com/Gruderpaper.pdf&quot;&gt;3 page paper that I wrote on the book&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/5962982466658545598/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/5962982466658545598' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/5962982466658545598'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/5962982466658545598'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/09/missional-church-by-gruder.html' title='Missional Church by Gruder'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-7199111720376190015</id><published>2007-09-29T09:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-29T10:09:26.660-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Toward a Theology of Discipleship</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;I’ve been working (truthfully, not working much) on a Theology of Discipleship as a result of some of the discussion of what constitutes spiritual growth at SBC.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I ran across a blog posting today from a pastor in Hawaii who I found myself agreeing with (mostly).&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;He has some of the elements that we often think of in discipleship perhaps summarized in &quot;growing relationship with Christ&quot; and &quot;a ministry that is fruitful and healthy.&quot;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;        &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;Additional items he adds:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;  - Healthy Marriage&lt;br /&gt;- Healthy Family&lt;br /&gt;- Healthy Body/Soul&lt;br /&gt;- Healthy Lifestyle (time to enjoy life)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;My journey is taking me down a direction of thinking about how important that our “health” is: I was thinking family health, working life health, friendship health, body health, emotional health.&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Often when something here is wrong, our life is not fully whole yet God offers healing in all these areas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;This same journey is making me read the Bible with a perspective of integrating the spiritual and secular areas of life -- spirituality is not simply about spiritual habits and church attendance.  It&#39;s truly about how Christ intersects our relationships and how we live out the greatest commandments in the context of regular 21st century life.  Looking at my own life, that means: how I live with Christy, how I bring up my girls, how I work with my co-workers, how I relate with my friends, acquaintances and people I share the road with.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&quot;Everything God has done in our lives is unproven until tested in the midst of relationships,&quot; quoted by Loren Laumer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Here&#39;s the blog posting:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;h2&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/textdriven/SMmG/%7E3/147707566/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Church Relevance Interviews Wayne Cordeiro&lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;entry-source-title-parent&quot;&gt;from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed/http%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.feedburner.com%2Ftextdriven%2FSMmG&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;The Digital Sanctuary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; by Cynthia&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;!--[if gte vml 1]&gt;&lt;v:shape id=&quot;Picture_x0020_2&quot; spid=&quot;_x0000_s1026&quot; type=&quot;#_x0000_t75&quot; alt=&quot;Hawaii&quot; href=&quot;http://thedigitalsanctuary.textdriven.com/wp-content/uploads/hawaii.jpg&quot; target=&quot;&amp;quot;_blank&amp;quot;&quot; title=&quot;&amp;quot;Hawaii&amp;quot;&quot; style=&quot;&#39;position:absolute;&quot; allowoverlap=&quot;f&quot; button=&quot;t&quot;&gt;  &lt;v:imagedata src=&quot;file:///C:\Users\dmaxson\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image002.jpg&quot; title=&quot;Hawaii&quot;&gt;  &lt;w:wrap type=&quot;square&quot; anchory=&quot;line&quot;&gt; &lt;/v:shape&gt;&lt;![endif]--&gt;&lt;!--[if !vml]--&gt;Yesterday, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://churchrelevance.com/about/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Kent Shaffer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; at &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://churchrelevance.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Church Relevance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; posted a brief interview with &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foursquare.org/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Foursquare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://enewhope.org/aboutus/pastorwayne/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Pastor Wayne Corderio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; from &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.enewhope.org/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;New Hope Christian Fellowship in O&#39;hau&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.  I just covered &lt;strong&gt;Pastor Wayne&#39;s church&lt;/strong&gt; here last week having returned from a visit there in early August.   Here&#39;s the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thedigitalsanctuary.textdriven.com/2007/08/09/new-hope-in-hawaii/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;permalink of my experience at New Hope&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The &lt;strong&gt;Church Rlevance&lt;/strong&gt; interview includes this bit of &lt;strong&gt;Pastor Wayne&#39;s&lt;/strong&gt; simple advice:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Establish 5 or 6 things and live toward them. For example, his six are:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;ol start=&quot;1&quot; type=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;A genuine and growing &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;relationship with Christ Jesus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;A genuine and &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;healthy marriage&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;A &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;family&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; that is close and &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;healthy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, spiritually as      well as emotionally.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;A &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;ministry &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;that is&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt; fruitful and healthy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; and      one that &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;overflows&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;      into resourcing other leaders.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;A &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;body&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; that is &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;healthy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; and a &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;soul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; that is able to be &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;creative&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;&quot;&gt;Time to enjoy life&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; with      family and friends.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Head over to &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.churchrelevance.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Church Relevance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; to read all 10Q.  Permalink: &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://churchrelevance.com/10q-with-wayne-cordeiro-of-new-hope-christian-fellowship/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;10Q with Wayne Cordeiro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/7199111720376190015/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/7199111720376190015' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/7199111720376190015'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/7199111720376190015'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/09/toward-theology-of-discipleship.html' title='Toward a Theology of Discipleship'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-7982112777708247903</id><published>2007-09-26T07:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-30T09:29:05.582-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Podcast on The Blogging Church</title><content type='html'>A popular business-oriented blog did a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/church_blogging.php&quot;&gt;podcast&lt;/a&gt; on Brian Bailey&#39;s The Blogging Church&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/7982112777708247903/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/7982112777708247903' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/7982112777708247903'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/7982112777708247903'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/09/podcast-on-blogging-church.html' title='Podcast on The Blogging Church'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-3841027523494569433</id><published>2007-09-25T17:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-25T17:37:36.999-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Shaun Garman at Red Sea Church</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href=&quot;http://redseachurch.org&quot;&gt;Red Sea Church&lt;/a&gt; is a 5 year old church in the St. John&#39;s community of Portland.  Shaun Garman is the pastor that started the church.  Shaun came and discussed his testimony, the history of Red Sea, and some thoughts on leading a church as a planter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shaun became a Christian at age 16, but fell away later and as a result of his girlfriend (now his wife) reading his Bible and asking some questions, Shaun got more serious about his faith.  Shaun spent several years starting and operating some companies and God grabbed his life and moved him into ministry about 6 years ago.  I wish that I had gotten a recording of this testimony because it was just a great example of sensitivity to God&#39;s call (even though it took some time for him to follow-through) and I can&#39;t do justice in my writing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some random thoughts from Shaun:&lt;br /&gt;- Build from a sending church.  It&#39;s a healthier model for the church planter to have support and accountability.&lt;br /&gt;- Don&#39;t plant a church because of rebellion.  Some plant churches because they feel rejected by their church, are dogmatic on a certain doctrinal element, want to be cooler than the existing church.&lt;br /&gt;- The planter MUST be compelled by the gospel.  Shaun&#39;s entire talk was really based upon the concept of &quot;gospel-centered&quot; theology/leadership/programs.  For Shaun, the gospel must be the central focus of not just a message or an event, but must be the governing principle over everything that&#39;s done at the church. &lt;br /&gt;    - Christ: Soteriology (the gospel)&lt;br /&gt;    - Community: Ecclesiology (the church)&lt;br /&gt;    - Culture: Missiology (the mission to bring the gospel to others)&lt;br /&gt;  This are the central tenets of the purpose, doctrine and practice of Red Sea.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My commentary: My church&#39;s purpose statement is: (1) introducing people to Jesus and (2) together becoming more like him.  Similar to the Christ|Community|Culture but is more intentional at getting our #1 (introducing) going in the church.  Perhaps there&#39;s something to learn for us at SBC here.  I&#39;m fiddling with what my &quot;Theology of Redemption&quot; looks like which is a way saying all of this as well (just another way of looking at the CCC of Red Sea and the Intro/Become of Sierra Bible).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The essence of the Theology of Redemption is: we were created to have fellowship directly with God just as Adam and Eve had, but we now live in a broken world that is filled with broken people bumping into other broken people causing wounds and hurts.  God&#39;s own son Jesus died on the cross to close the gap between us and God, to bring hope to the hopeless, and purpose to those seeking meaning.  God calls us to redeem anything in the world that we can -- people primarily, but communities and cultural elements as well so that the whole world would know Jesus is the only begotten Son of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/3841027523494569433/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/3841027523494569433' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/3841027523494569433'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/3841027523494569433'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/09/shaun-garman-at-red-sea-church.html' title='Shaun Garman at Red Sea Church'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-5876078097820222422</id><published>2007-09-25T16:55:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-25T17:14:32.719-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Visit to Imago Dei</title><content type='html'>Christy and I went to visit Imago Dei on Sunday morning this week.  Neither of us had ever attended Imago so it was a great chance to experience some Imago-ness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I went to college at Multnomah with Rick McKinley, the pastor and founder of Imago and the XP at Imago was my roommate during my our first year there.  It&#39;s been so great to see what God has done through these and all the other staff and key people at Imago over the years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Church didn&#39;t seem all that different than many other places I&#39;ve been.  The worship band was good, but not great.  Rick is a good preacher and he is very funny -- just like Donald Miller says.  I listened to a podcast that Rick did (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catalystspace.com/src/15-RickMcKinleyPodcast.mp3&quot;&gt;http://www.catalystspace.com/src/15-RickMcKinleyPodcast.mp3&lt;/a&gt;) on Catalyst last year and he said basically the same thing that we experienced, Sundays are not that different from many other churches, but their communities and missional activities are the distinctives of Imago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From the bulletin this week, here&#39;s a sampling of some of the items going on:&lt;br /&gt;  - School of Theology: this is a fancy term for their adult education classes.  These range from some pretty heady classes like a class in Pentateuch (Genesis-Deuteronomy) to a couple recovery/mentoring classes to men&#39;s and women&#39;s issues to finances.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imagodeicommunity.com/truth--meaning/school-of-theology/&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;  - Communities: Imago has several different types of communities with different purposes and flavors: Home (&quot;primary pathways to connect with others and grow&quot;), Missional (groups who center around meeting a need in the community), Recovery (for people struggling with addictions), Mom&#39;s (women&#39;s ministry).&lt;br /&gt;  - Love Portland: This is a series of service ministries that Imago is doing to just serve the people of Portland (gotta watch the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imagodeicommunity.com/love-portland/&quot;&gt;short video&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#39;m going to do some more writing on Imago in a few weeks after I have a chance to get some more insider info from Eric Brown.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; 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shapes=&quot;_x0000_s1026&quot; align=&quot;right&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;126&quot; hspace=&quot;10&quot; vspace=&quot;10&quot; width=&quot;86&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 8pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; color: black;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; color: rgb(242, 75, 15);&quot;&gt;Why I Had to be 34 Before I Planted a Church&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 8pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; color: black;&quot;&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 8pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; color: rgb(0, 51, 102);&quot;&gt;Ryan Mobley | Lead Pastor of Delta Church | Springfield, IL&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 8pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; color: black;&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 8pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; color: black;&quot;&gt;Church planting is sexy. It&#39;s the hot thing to do in ministry these days. If you&#39;re a young guy looking to go into ministry, you&#39;re probably real tempted to head down the church planting road with nothing more than a pocket full of dreams, cockiness, some Sunday School or Young Life ministry experience, maybe a Bible college degree, and if you&#39;ve really been procrastinating, a Seminary degree. But the more I see guys in their early- to mid-twenties with cool sideburns, a beer in one hand, and &quot;The Reformation for Dummies&quot; in the other talking about going and planting a church, I tend to get a little nervous...like how I feel when I&#39;m driving down the road and a car with the big &quot;student driver&quot; Domino&#39;s Pizza sign on top pulls up next to me. I usually let them pass and stay in front of me so I can keep a good eye on them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There have been many young church planters who have had tremendous success in our lifetime: Bill Hybels, Rick Warren, Mark Driscoll, and even a guy like Andy Stanley (OK, he didn&#39;t really &#39;plant&#39; a church, but he was still relatively young). This is very inspiring. Young guys in ministry see these examples and want the influence and success they see in Seattle, LA, Chicago, and Atlanta. But here&#39;s the problem...&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 8pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; color: black;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=lv5ypecab.0.ty4itecab.rqdmhzn6.179&amp;amp;ts=S0273&amp;amp;p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.acts29network.org%2Farticle%2Fwhy-i-had-to-be-34-before-i-planted-a-church&quot; color=&quot;#36343d&quot; shape=&quot;rect&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(54, 52, 61);&quot;&gt;Read More...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/5785197982328431407/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/5785197982328431407' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/5785197982328431407'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/5785197982328431407'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/09/why-i-had-to-be-34-before-i-planted.html' title='Why I Had to be 34 Before I Planted a Church'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-2544472320979040369</id><published>2007-09-17T20:10:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-17T20:34:18.440-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Can You Teach an Old Church New Tricks?</title><content type='html'>Class today was very stimulating.  Dr. Trautman got us into a great conversation for the last half hour regarding renewal vs. planting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His opening was about a church in SoCal that had a review by some church consultants.  The consultants noted that the church had a very small evangelism budget relative to their overall budget and little in &quot;missional&quot; programming.  His question was how would you go about changing this church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since so many of the students are specifically enrolled in the class in order to plant missional churches, the responses were reflective of this viewpoint.  Holden said that he thought there was a blessing in sticking with the church and enduring the suffering.  Mike said that he was enthused by his church&#39;s changes over the last few years in becoming more intentional in their service.  Mike also stated that he just wanted the people to get out of the pew and do something.  For some reason, it seems that we church folk don&#39;t follow our Bibles very well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps a core issue in stimulating church renewal is that we are sheep.  Sheep aren&#39;t very good at change.  They don&#39;t follow very well and they tend to be resistent.  Sheep don&#39;t like to work, but they like to eat and sleep.  Since we are all sheep (even the pastor/church planter), we can say the same thing about ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A more depressing thought: we will always be sheep.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hope: The Holy Spirit lives in these sheep.  He can change the heart of an individual and the heart of a church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I certainly agree with church planting as a strategy for reaching new people by getting more people out in the community to bring the gospel to the people.  This isn&#39;t a full solution to the &quot;sheep&quot; problem.  Certainly a church planter will enjoy the opportunity to shape the look and feel of the church becuase there&#39;s no tradition or predecessor to live up to.  However, it seems to me that a church plant becomes an established church when: (1) the founding pastor leaves, (2) there are more people attending who weren&#39;t around in the &quot;glory days&quot;, or (3) the initial surge of mission fades as the church builds programs to care for the new believers/attenders.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In conclusion: All of us like sheep are going astray. We keep turning to our own way.  The Lord has taken our sins of worldiness, apathy and hypocrisy and layed it upon Jesus.  He has paid the price so that the church -- established and emerging -- can become what the Bible intends.  \&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sheep: let&#39;s follow the Shepherd!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/2544472320979040369/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/2544472320979040369' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/2544472320979040369'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/2544472320979040369'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/09/can-you-teach-old-church-new-tricks.html' title='Can You Teach an Old Church New Tricks?'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-1372240391479240748</id><published>2007-09-11T12:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-11T12:45:52.567-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Alternative Culture</title><content type='html'>In our text for the class at Multnomah (Missional Church, edited by Darrell Gruder), some interesting points are made in relationship to how the church is to be a voice of difference in the culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Presupposition: since there are literally thousands or millions of distinct cultures, then the church&#39;s response to this dominant culture will need to be different.  Example: a church in suburban Chicago is in a different culture than a church in Cairo, Egypt and thus the ways that the church relates to each culture is going to look very different.  The church in Chicago may need to demonstrate its counter-cultural difference by opposing materialism and apathy toward the poor whereas the church in Egypt must distinguish itself from the prevailing muslim society perhaps by supporting the rights of women.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gruder&#39;s points:&lt;br /&gt;1. &quot;In every cultural context, now matter how benevolent or hostile the governments or societies around it may be, the church is called to demonstrate an alternative culture&quot; (p. 119).&lt;br /&gt;    - In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus taught a counter-cultural set of values that if followed would make any Christian community much different than its surrounding culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. &quot;Virtually every Christian public ethic justifying behavior that runs counter to the example and teaching of Jesus does it on the grounds of responsibility.  In many cases, the critics admin that following Jesus would mean something quite different from what they are proposing.  But Jesus&#39; example is deemed irrelevent or irresponsible&quot; (p. 125).&lt;br /&gt;    - On the other hand, I think that most Christians (including myself) have often bought into the idea that if they really live as Jesus did, they could not be successful in life, business and would risk ridicule and persecution.  That, is probably exactly the point that Christ makes when he promised the disciples that they would encounter resistence (John 15).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. &quot;The church as an alternative community can make a powerful witness when it chooses to live differently from the dominant society even at just a few key points.  An important task of the church is to discern what are those key points at which to be different from the evil of the world&quot; (p. 127).&lt;br /&gt;    - I&#39;d like to hope that this means something more than political positions such as abortion or gay marriage and that we&#39;re talking about more close-to-home issues within the local body such as sanctity of marriage, meeting the needs of the poor or business ethics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. &quot;Such witness also means that one&#39;s seatmate in an airplane , after learning of your church affiliation, will exclaim, &#39;Oh, I&#39;ve heard of you!  You&#39;re the people who are always there to clean up after tornadoes and floods&#39;&quot; (p. 128).&lt;br /&gt;    - Rob Bell says it like this, &quot;if your church were to be gone tomorrow, who would miss it?&quot;  Would anyone outside of the church family and religious community feel that the city had lost a valuable asset?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/1372240391479240748/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/1372240391479240748' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/1372240391479240748'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/1372240391479240748'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/09/alternative-culture.html' title='Alternative Culture'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-1583357926419186201</id><published>2007-09-09T21:21:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-09T21:57:55.713-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Retreat at Wildhorse</title><content type='html'>Multnomah (the Bible College that is) has a retreat for all undergrad students every year now and we just got back an hour ago.  The retreat was held at Young Life&#39;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://sites.younglife.org/camps/Wildhorse/default.aspx&quot;&gt;Wildhorse Canyon Camp&lt;/a&gt; (which was once the infamous home of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ohs.org/education/oregonhistory/narratives/subtopic.cfm?subtopic_ID=414&quot;&gt;Rashneeshpuram&lt;/a&gt;).  This is just an incredible example of God and His people redeeming the place for His glory!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This morning Dr. Garry Friesen (&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Decision-Making and the Will of God&lt;/span&gt;, Multnomah 1981) spoke.  He is a very brilliant person (I really enjoyed my NT class many years ago).  However, this message fit into the profoundly simple variety.  He talked about the importance of simple faithfulness.  His point is that God does not desire anything more than faithfulness with what he&#39;s given us (see Parable of the Talents Matt 25). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We don&#39;t need to be worried about results from our ministry, school-work (this was a retreat for college students) or any other area of life.  However, we should really grade ourselves on our faithfulness to follow-through on what God has put before us.  For the perfectionist, this is great advice (Anything worth doing is worth doing poorly -- even if you can&#39;t do it as perfect as you want, it&#39;s worth doing as much as time allows).  For someone like myself (a not-very perfectionist!), we may need to look at better than what we&#39;d accept, because only then will we fulfill the potential that God has given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quote from George McDonald (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.macdonaldphillips.com/legacy.html&quot;&gt;bio&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt; Easy to please is he-hard indeed                              to satisfy.&quot;  God is pleased with our faithfulness and doesn&#39;t require more than that, but His desire for us to be faithful is never satisfied -- He requires the same thing every day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for the reminder Dr. Friesen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/1583357926419186201/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/1583357926419186201' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/1583357926419186201'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/1583357926419186201'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/09/retreat-at-wildhorse.html' title='Retreat at Wildhorse'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-1761898742869829877</id><published>2007-09-05T21:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-05T22:09:43.200-07:00</updated><title type='text'>New Wine, New Wineskins</title><content type='html'>New Wine, New &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-error&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_0&quot;&gt;Wineskins&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.new-wineskins.org/&quot;&gt;http://www.new-wineskins.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NW is a program of &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-error&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_1&quot;&gt;Multnomah&lt;/span&gt; Seminary to build a &quot;Theology of Engagement with Culture.&quot;  I went to an introductory meeting today.  Two Profs spoke as well as a few of the student leaders.  Dr. &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-error&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_2&quot;&gt;Metzger&lt;/span&gt; described the following story for a speaking event at Portland State University in a lecture on paranormal psychology:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Paraphrase, but written as if in the first person):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;I spoke to a class at &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-error&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_3&quot;&gt;PSU&lt;/span&gt; on evangelicalism and presented the basic message of the Bible, discussed some of the misunderstandings of Scripture that resulted in some of the &quot;problems&quot; that many people have with Christianity.  During this whole time, one young woman in the class was loudly conversing with others and making remarks during the talk which really angered me.  After the 25 minute presentation, she was the first to ask a question, &quot;Do you think you&#39;re better than me.&quot;  After some time to collect myself to contain my anger (because of her apparent inattention during the talk), I asked if there was something in my talk that made it sound as if I thought that way.  Her reply was that she was a sinner, and not a part of the &quot;club&quot; that goes to heaven. &lt;/span&gt; (More on this story later).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This seemed to me (this is Derek talking now!) as a very difficult question and I wondered how I would take the question and respond positively.  We discussed this quite a bit with many students saying that they would &lt;span class=&quot;blsp-spelling-corrected&quot; id=&quot;SPELLING_ERROR_4&quot;&gt;apologize&lt;/span&gt; on behalf of the church for those who may have made her feel that way along with some carefully crafted language about free will, etc.  However, Dr. Metzger had an interested response (to the effect of), &quot;Christ has freely given an invitation that anyone can accept.&quot;  His response is that there is no &quot;club&quot; that has a restricted membership.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The end of the story finds the young woman conversing with Dr. Metzger and some of the students from Multnomah who came and at one point after hearing the gospel responded, &quot;that&#39;s all you have to do?&quot;  What a tremendous witness!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;QUOTE OF THE NIGHT: &quot;We should not only look at what Jesus said/did, but at what He became: a servant!&quot;  --Dr. Harper&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/1761898742869829877/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/1761898742869829877' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/1761898742869829877'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/1761898742869829877'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-wine-new-wineskins.html' title='New Wine, New Wineskins'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-8387611118417041552</id><published>2007-09-04T16:08:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-04T16:46:38.992-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Defining Missional and Emerging Churches</title><content type='html'>This week in my class at Multnomah, we discussed an interesting article reprinted from Christianity Today: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ctlibrary.com/print.html?id=40534&quot;&gt;http://www.ctlibrary.com/print.html?id=40534&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a great article for people who are unfamiliar with postmoderns and the emgerging church to read to understand some of the trends.  This is important for leaders in established churches because they represent changes in how the younger generations will interpret what we do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are the characteristics that the author suggests:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Emerging churches are communities that practice the way of Jesus within postmodern cultures. This definition encompasses nine practices. Emerging churches (1) identify with the life of Jesus, (2) transform the secular realm, and (3) live highly communal lives. Because of these three activities, they (4) welcome the stranger, (5) serve with generosity, (6) participate as producers, (7) create as created beings, (8) lead as a body, and (9) take part in spiritual activities.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While this list doesn&#39;t seem really different from the churches I am familiar with (other than #3), there must be some subtle and perhaps overt differences between our current church models and these emerging models.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me that there is a fundamental difference that the postmodern person has: how she will discover &quot;truth.&quot;  While I have been raised theologically to believe certain core doctrines and concepts, the spoonfeeding of these doctrines may not connect with this generation.  And while some have brought into question every single doctrine from the eternality of God to the person of Jesus, I believe that there must be a place for some doctrinal presuppositions (nature of God, integrity of Scripture, person and work of Christ) to provide a framework for the postmodern to question his way through the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Virtually all the works on postmodernism that I have read point to a propensity for discovering truth through experience (which makes traditional Bible instruction very challenging).&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;  &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Gruder suggests that &quot;our understanding of truth is always an interpretation relative to our context and cultural understanding.&quot;   One exciting passage in the article points to how the life of Christ becomes MORE relevent than I&#39;ve seen it in traditional church:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Here is an emerging, provocative way of saying it: &quot;By their fruits [not their theology] you will know them.&quot; As Jesus&#39; brother James said, &quot;Faith without works is dead.&quot; Rhetorical exaggerations aside, I know of no one in the emerging movement who believes that one&#39;s relationship with God is established by how one lives. Nor do I know anyone who thinks that it doesn&#39;t matter what one believes about Jesus Christ. But the focus is shifted. Gibbs and Bolger define emerging churches as those who practice &quot;the way of Jesus&quot; in the postmodern era.  Jesus declared that we will be judged according to how we treat the least of these (Matt. 25:31-46) and that the wise man is the one who practices the words of Jesus (Matt. 7:24-27). In addition, every judgment scene in the Bible is portrayed as a judgment based on works; no judgment scene looks like a theological articulation test.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second major emphasis from the document that I garnered was the emphasis on missional focus (which I &lt;a href=&quot;http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/08/first-day-in-pm-843-at-multnomah.html&quot;&gt;blogged about last week&lt;/a&gt;).  One item to add to that is the application of 2 Corinthians 5 and ministry of reconciliation.  It is suggested that this ministry of reconciliation applies to both the lost souls (as we evangelicals typically interpret the passage), but also to the full ministry as Christ displayed a sympathy for the lost and for the &quot;whole persons and whole societies.&quot;  It is my desire to develop a personal theology of mission for myself and my spheres of influence during this semester.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In our first text for the class: &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Missional Church&lt;/span&gt; by Gruder, it is suggested that our churches need to take a broader view of &quot;missions.&quot;  &quot;Congregations still tend to view missions as one of several programs of the church.  Evangelism when present is usually defined as member recruitment at the local level and church planting at the regional level. . .  Indeed the main business of many missions committees is to determine how to spend the missions budget rather than &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;view the entire church budget as an exercise in mission&lt;/span&gt; (p6).&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/8387611118417041552/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/8387611118417041552' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/8387611118417041552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/8387611118417041552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/09/defining-missional-and-emerging.html' title='Defining Missional and Emerging Churches'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-2092186513052407780</id><published>2007-08-29T18:59:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-29T19:00:30.848-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Emerging Ads</title><content type='html'>I enjoyed this definition of &quot;emerging&quot;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilVq5nYtaFmTlKVaIwfNPWDTkzjaqITROBtz45VoDcBBfpYSiixffqfEcpEKLKwbON-vymWzGrKd1URFQKT7_k_yo1jlcPhsUYOfGkE-PzVD4vDaP1PP67rXr6IhtoLaErE3VNv0nnbY4/s1600-h/Capture.JPG&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;cursor: pointer;&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilVq5nYtaFmTlKVaIwfNPWDTkzjaqITROBtz45VoDcBBfpYSiixffqfEcpEKLKwbON-vymWzGrKd1URFQKT7_k_yo1jlcPhsUYOfGkE-PzVD4vDaP1PP67rXr6IhtoLaErE3VNv0nnbY4/s320/Capture.JPG&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5104307518123318482&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/2092186513052407780/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/2092186513052407780' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/2092186513052407780'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/2092186513052407780'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/08/emerging-ads.html' title='Emerging Ads'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilVq5nYtaFmTlKVaIwfNPWDTkzjaqITROBtz45VoDcBBfpYSiixffqfEcpEKLKwbON-vymWzGrKd1URFQKT7_k_yo1jlcPhsUYOfGkE-PzVD4vDaP1PP67rXr6IhtoLaErE3VNv0nnbY4/s72-c/Capture.JPG" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538197280974974150.post-9063340882886787316</id><published>2007-08-28T08:09:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-28T08:39:32.967-07:00</updated><title type='text'>First Day in PM 843 at Multnomah</title><content type='html'>On Monday, I started the class at Multnomah on Missional Churches.  The instructor is Roger Trautman and there are 10 other students in the class -- many of who are working toward working on some form of the emerging church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After dispensing of some of the introductory things like class requirements, we discussed the meaning of &quot;emerging church&quot;.  Here&#39;s a sample of some of the notable thoughts:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Churches need to redefine themselves every 5-7 years,&quot; Mike&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Perhaps every church ought to re-emerge regularly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Ecclectic is the emerging church,&quot; Halden&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;There are many definitions to the emerging church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jody also offered a comment that I didn&#39;t get the full quote on, but his point was that the emerging church is mostly about living like Jesus did in terms of serving others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;----------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr. Trautman offered these two notable items:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. It&#39;s really the re-emergent church.  Church historians liken the current movement to other movements of the past such as Luther and Wesley.  These were times when people did things differently -- and they changed our churches for centuries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. The missional/emergent church represents a shift in truth-finding from primarily a study-oriented church experience to a service-oriented societal experience.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This point #2 is what I&#39;ve been thinking about for a long time.  Here&#39;s a great source on this thought:&lt;br /&gt; - Rob Bell did a Catalyst Podcast a year ago on how his church is serving the city of Grand Rapids: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catalystspace.com/src/07-Rob_Bell_Podcast_Part2.mp3&quot;&gt;http://www.catalystspace.com/src/07-Rob_Bell_Podcast_Part2.mp3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Derek&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!-- google_ad_client = &quot;pub-3154845990175609&quot;; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = &quot;728x90_as&quot;; google_ad_type = &quot;text_image&quot;; //2007-08-23: DMATMBC Multnomah Blog google_ad_channel = &quot;3054181209&quot;; //--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/script&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/feeds/9063340882886787316/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/3538197280974974150/9063340882886787316' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/9063340882886787316'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3538197280974974150/posts/default/9063340882886787316'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://dmatmbc.blogspot.com/2007/08/first-day-in-pm-843-at-multnomah.html' title='First Day in PM 843 at Multnomah'/><author><name>Unknown</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry></feed>