<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:blogger='http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435</id><updated>2026-04-26T15:31:11.580-07:00</updated><category term="ForFormerJWs"/><category term="Jehovahs Witnesses"/><category term="Religion"/><category term="Depression"/><category term="Spirituality"/><category term="Suicide"/><category term="Cult"/><category term="Cults"/><category term="Abuse"/><category term="Beth Sarim"/><category term="Bible Study"/><category term="Bnei Noach"/><category term="CT Russell"/><category term="Christianity"/><category term="Church"/><category term="Faith"/><category term="Joseph Rutherford"/><category term="Rainbow Promise"/><category term="Sprirituality"/><title type='text'>Honest Hearted Former Jehovahs Witness</title><subtitle type='html'>Offering help and encouragement to Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses and Ex-Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses and others involved in similiar situations.  Thousands of unsuspecting honest hearted people get involved in high control groups and spiritually abusive organizations each year.  Talking about it helps.  We are here to listen.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default?redirect=false'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>23</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-5151708779973096112</id><published>2011-11-08T11:11:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-08T11:11:00.575-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bnei Noach"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jehovahs Witnesses"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Rainbow Promise"/><title type='text'>Jehovahs Witnesses and Christianity</title><content type='html'>When you start having questions and doubts about the Jehovah&#39;s Witness group it is important not to make quick decisions or conclusions.&amp;nbsp; Our History and past is very wide and alot of information and opinions are out there.&amp;nbsp; Do not just jump from one group into another.&amp;nbsp; Take your time.&amp;nbsp; Do the research.&amp;nbsp; I know from experience that as social beings we want to quickly find another group of people to associate with but be careful!&amp;nbsp; You do not want to get hurt again while you are vulnerable.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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For me I found a great informative website called Bet Emet Ministries.&amp;nbsp; It is a pastor who has been doing research for many many years and had a lot of the same questions that Ex Jw&#39;s have.&amp;nbsp; As with anyone check it out first.&amp;nbsp; It may not be what you are looking for but it was for me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Good Luck to you!&amp;nbsp; Stay informed and educate yourself.&amp;nbsp; We don&#39;t want to get hurt all over again.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I found a lot of good information concerning the Rainbow Promise.&amp;nbsp; It is simple and in the Bible and so many people want to add to it.&amp;nbsp; And, when someone adds to it or changes it inevitably someone disagrees and schisms happen.&amp;nbsp; That causes divisions which do not need to be there.&amp;nbsp; We will not have peace until we all realize we are one big family.&amp;nbsp; Brothers and Sisters.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/5151708779973096112/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/jehovahs-witnesses-and-christianity.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/5151708779973096112'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/5151708779973096112'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/jehovahs-witnesses-and-christianity.html' title='Jehovahs Witnesses and Christianity'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-3418418183314224199</id><published>2011-11-08T11:00:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-08T11:00:15.651-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Beth Sarim"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="CT Russell"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Cult"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jehovahs Witnesses"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Joseph Rutherford"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Religion"/><title type='text'>Jehovahs Witnesses and Pastor Russell</title><content type='html'>When I first started researching the origins of the Jehovahs Witnesses I was astounded by the amount of information on the web concerning the Bible Students and Pastor Russell.&amp;nbsp; I had always been taught that the Bible Students had turned into the group called Jehovahs Witnesses.&amp;nbsp; Not So.&amp;nbsp; In fact Pastor Russell had always been against turning his group into a large organization.&amp;nbsp; That seems to be a serious problem for many sincere groups at first.&amp;nbsp; They grown larger and then someone wants to take over and rule and make rules for everyone to follow etc.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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There is a group of people called the Friends of Jehovahs Witnesses that still have information about CT Russell and his original intentions available online.&amp;nbsp; They are Christian and seem to be open, caring, and loving individuals.&amp;nbsp; The information they provide is nothing like the story we heard about them from the JW Org.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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To me it is funny because as an 8-9 year old child sitting in the room&amp;nbsp;with the &amp;nbsp;adults back in the 70&#39;s (they did not know i was listening)&amp;nbsp; i overheard them talking about the Bible Students in very hushed tones.&amp;nbsp; And when I would ask about it i was told to mind my own business.&amp;nbsp; Even back then the Bible Students must have been trying to alert the Jehovahs Witnesses that all was not as it seemed.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not saying that the Bible Students have all the answers either but they do seem to be open and honest and more accepting.&amp;nbsp; I really like that they have opened and sustain homes for their elderly members.&amp;nbsp; This to me is what we are supposed to be doing.&amp;nbsp; Not trying to get our elderly to sign over their homes and land to the Organization instead of leaving it to their family members who may or may not be Jehovahs Witnesses.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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It is very eye-opening when you compare what CT Russell preached versus what &quot;Judge&quot; Rutherford preached.&amp;nbsp; Not the same at all.&amp;nbsp; Why would a loving brother want to be called the &quot;Judge&quot;?!&amp;nbsp; That to me explains exactly why the Organization today is so heavy handed when &quot;judging&quot; their members.&amp;nbsp; Do not judge lest you be judged.&amp;nbsp; Also, if you have not done so already, look up Beth Sarim.&amp;nbsp; This was a house the Judge had built for himself that was a 10 bedroom mansion in CA from funds given by Jehovahs Witnesses and it was during the depression.&amp;nbsp; Today, many Jehovahs Witnesses are sincere but just ill-informed.&amp;nbsp; But, as for the Judge I really question what his motives were when I research his life-style back then.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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Be Informed.&amp;nbsp; Educate yourself.&amp;nbsp; Only then can you know the right path.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
Peace</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/3418418183314224199/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/jehovahs-witnesses-and-pastor-russell.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/3418418183314224199'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/3418418183314224199'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/jehovahs-witnesses-and-pastor-russell.html' title='Jehovahs Witnesses and Pastor Russell'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-7239234571160118421</id><published>2011-11-07T16:05:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-07T16:05:08.156-08:00</updated><title type='text'>3 Tips to Help Jehovahs Witness Depression</title><content type='html'>It&amp;nbsp;has come to my attention that many Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses suffer depression for a wide variety of reasons.&amp;nbsp; I am no longer a Jehovahs Witness but many of my friends and family are.&amp;nbsp; So this is very important to me.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
One website i found to have good information is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ehow.com/&quot;&gt;www.ehow.com&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; They recommend:&lt;br /&gt;
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1.&amp;nbsp; Go outside.&amp;nbsp; Get some fresh air and sunshine.&lt;br /&gt;
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3.&amp;nbsp; Start a journal or diary.&amp;nbsp; Get your feelings out.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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Also don&#39;t forget: laughter is the best medicine.&amp;nbsp; Visit with friends and loved ones.&amp;nbsp; Let them know how you are feeling.&amp;nbsp; Let&#39;s get through this together.&amp;nbsp; You do not have to do this alone.&amp;nbsp; Do not suffer in silence.&amp;nbsp; If your negative feelings do not go away seek help.&amp;nbsp; Tell your doctor.&lt;br /&gt;
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We all feel down sometimes but if it continues get help.&amp;nbsp; Do you have trouble sleeping or concentrating.&amp;nbsp; Do you feel irritable more times than not?&amp;nbsp; Do you feel aches and pains but the doctor says you appear to be in good health?&amp;nbsp; These could be signs of depression and you should let your doctor know.&amp;nbsp; Educate yourself.&amp;nbsp; Do some research into the signs and what you can do about your depression.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ehow.com/&quot;&gt;www.ehow.com&lt;/a&gt; has some good advice as well as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.helpguide.org/mental&quot;&gt;www.helpguide.org/mental&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;living is another website that had some very good information.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/7239234571160118421/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/3-tips-to-help-jehovahs-witness.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/7239234571160118421'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/7239234571160118421'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/3-tips-to-help-jehovahs-witness.html' title='3 Tips to Help Jehovahs Witness Depression'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-8717704421939952217</id><published>2011-11-07T15:38:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-07T15:38:01.872-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jehovahs Witnesses"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Religion"/><title type='text'>Help For Jehovahs Witness Depression</title><content type='html'>I have been asking myself lately:&amp;nbsp; how can I help my depressed Jehovahs Witness loved ones if they will not associate with me?&amp;nbsp; Maybe someone else has been asking the same thing.&amp;nbsp; I have asked myself this question alot over the last three years since I left the JW religion.&amp;nbsp; But, this week it is even more important.&amp;nbsp; You see, my family member just committed suicide.&amp;nbsp; And, she is not the only one.&amp;nbsp; I have four family members who have done this and countless others have thought about it at one time or another.&amp;nbsp; There must be something I can do?!!&amp;nbsp; But, how?!&amp;nbsp; Since leaving the Jehovahs Witness congregation many of my family members will not speak to me.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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What I have decided to do in the meantime is be prepared.&amp;nbsp; I will do some research into how to help.&amp;nbsp; What are the signs?&amp;nbsp; How to help someone who does not know they need help.&amp;nbsp; How to help someone who is trying to fake happiness.&amp;nbsp; I will be prepared because at some point I believe someone will come forward and reach out for help and I will be ready and will be able to help them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Take for example my mother.&amp;nbsp; I love her dearly but she says that since I have &quot;turned my back on Jehovah&quot; she can no longer have a relationship with me.&amp;nbsp; But, on occasion (illnesses and death for instance) she will contact me.&amp;nbsp; I take these times to reassure her of my love and acceptance.&amp;nbsp; In the past I used to try to get her to see my side and how hurtful her attitude was.&amp;nbsp; But, that was no help at all.&amp;nbsp; Now I try to be understanding and accepting and give her unconditional love.&amp;nbsp; Maybe in the future she will remember this and come to me for help.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you have any advice you would like to share please do so.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/8717704421939952217/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/help-for-jehovahs-witness-depression.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/8717704421939952217'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/8717704421939952217'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/help-for-jehovahs-witness-depression.html' title='Help For Jehovahs Witness Depression'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-815965106511093413</id><published>2011-11-07T15:19:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-07T15:19:59.116-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Depression"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Religion"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Spirituality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Suicide"/><title type='text'>How to Help Depressed Jehovahs Witness</title><content type='html'>I recently found out that a loved one of mine committed suicide.&amp;nbsp; She was a Jehovah&#39;s Witness and appeared to be happy.&amp;nbsp; She seemed to have so much to be happy about.&amp;nbsp; She was healthy physically and has a lot of close family members and new grandchildren.&amp;nbsp; How could this have happened?&amp;nbsp; She has been a Jehovah&#39;s Witness all of her life and enjoyed the meetings and had lots of JW friends and family.&amp;nbsp; How did I not know?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Did anyone know?&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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Has this happened to you also?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I am still in shock over this and decided to do some research and find out how many people this is happening to.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; And, how can we know if someone is feeling depressed but covering it up and putting on a fake smile?&lt;br /&gt;
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I have felt sad in my life and discouraged but so far managed to overcome this when it happens.&amp;nbsp; This is normal.&amp;nbsp; We all feel this way at some point in our life.&amp;nbsp; But, what happens if we cannot overcome it?&amp;nbsp; And how do we help our friends and loved ones when it happens to them?&lt;br /&gt;
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If we notice a loved one who seems down a lot of the time we need to encourage them.&amp;nbsp; Be a good listener.&amp;nbsp; Ask them what they need.&amp;nbsp; Show compassion.&amp;nbsp; Reassure them that they are loved and that there is help available if these negative feelings do not go away.&amp;nbsp; We may even volunteer to go to counseling with them.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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Be aware though that some Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses may not want to see a non-witness therapist.&amp;nbsp; What then?&amp;nbsp; Maybe we could do some research on what others around you have done.&amp;nbsp; Maybe they could recommend someone.&amp;nbsp; We could encourage them to see their regular doctor who they are already familiar with and talk to them about medication.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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Above all just be a good listener.&amp;nbsp; Let them know they are loved and that you are there for them.&amp;nbsp; And, do not forget to take care of yourself as well.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If we aren&#39;t healthy ourselves we can not be there for anyone else.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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If you have any experience or advice please share.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/815965106511093413/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-to-help-depressed-jehovahs-witness.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/815965106511093413'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/815965106511093413'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-to-help-depressed-jehovahs-witness.html' title='How to Help Depressed Jehovahs Witness'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-3331906593404687141</id><published>2011-11-07T14:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-07T14:30:38.271-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Depression"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jehovahs Witnesses"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Spirituality"/><title type='text'>Speak Out Against JW Depression and Suicide</title><content type='html'>I believe that the suicide rate among Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses has gotten worse and that if we stay quiet about this problem it will continue to get worse.&amp;nbsp; We cannot let this happen!&amp;nbsp; But, what can we do?&amp;nbsp; Especially since most of our friends and family members will not speak to non-JW&#39;s.&amp;nbsp; Well, I have a few ideas I would like to share with you and please share yours as well.&amp;nbsp; If we can at least save one person by speaking out against JW depression and suicide then it will be worthwhile.&lt;br /&gt;
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For me I think the most important thing we can do is become aware of the problem.&amp;nbsp; Educate ourselves so that when we see signs we will know what we can do.&amp;nbsp; And communicate.&amp;nbsp; So many suffer in silence thinking they are the only one having these feelings.&amp;nbsp; They need to know they are not alone.&amp;nbsp; Lets conquer this together with love and understanding.&amp;nbsp; Please, if you have comments or experience, please share it with us.&amp;nbsp; We do not want to lose any more loved ones to depression or suicide.&amp;nbsp; It is a tragedy that does not have to happen.&lt;br /&gt;
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I remember as a child my mother and aunts talking about this issue (when they thought we were too young to understand).&amp;nbsp; I remember hearing them say that they felt after reading the Watchtower and Awake that it would not be a good idea to see a &quot;worldly&quot; therapist.&amp;nbsp; And, they did not want to bring negative light to the congregation.&amp;nbsp; They felt it was a family problem, and that most families were not having the same problems.&amp;nbsp; But, years later this is still a problem.&amp;nbsp; With all that we have learned about depression-people are still not seeking help!&amp;nbsp; I have lost another dear family member!&amp;nbsp; We must help make changes-to save others from suffering.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please share your experience.&amp;nbsp; How has it affected you or your loved ones?&amp;nbsp; What have you tried-that maybe others can do also to help there loved ones?&amp;nbsp; I will do more research and try and post what positive things others have done and are doing to improve this situation.&lt;br /&gt;
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With Love and Encouragement</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/3331906593404687141/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/speak-out-against-jw-depression-and.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/3331906593404687141'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/3331906593404687141'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/speak-out-against-jw-depression-and.html' title='Speak Out Against JW Depression and Suicide'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-8421850340626581228</id><published>2011-11-07T14:06:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-07T14:06:53.637-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Cults"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Depression"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jehovahs Witnesses"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Religion"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Sprirituality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Suicide"/><title type='text'>Jehovahs Witnesses and Depression</title><content type='html'>Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses and depression.&amp;nbsp; This is something I have thought a lot about over the last few years.&amp;nbsp; Depression among Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses has been a very big problem for a very long time.&amp;nbsp; One would hope and think that the statistics have gotten better.&amp;nbsp; That less Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses are having a hard time with depression and hopelessness.&amp;nbsp; That more Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses are getting help and seeking medical attention.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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Sadly, I don&#39;t think this is the case.&amp;nbsp; In fact,&amp;nbsp; there is much evidence that it has not gotten better and is worse.&amp;nbsp; Why?!&amp;nbsp; It has been my experience that many Witnesses do not seek help because they are embarrassed and/or they do not want to bring negative attention to the family and congregation.&amp;nbsp; Instead they choose to suffer in silence.&amp;nbsp; They may also be scared to seek help because they do not know who to see.&amp;nbsp; Should they see a worldly doctor?&amp;nbsp; And many may not even know they have depression.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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This is a very sad situation and we all need to do some research on what are the signs and symptoms and what can we do to help our loved ones that may not be able to help themselves.&amp;nbsp; Please....if you have any advice on what has worked for you and your family.....please share with others.&amp;nbsp; Thank you!</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/8421850340626581228/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/jehovahs-witnesses-and-depression.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/8421850340626581228'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/8421850340626581228'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/jehovahs-witnesses-and-depression.html' title='Jehovahs Witnesses and Depression'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-9036854231063189176</id><published>2011-11-07T13:53:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-07T13:53:40.777-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Cults"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Depression"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jehovahs Witnesses"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Religion"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Spirituality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Suicide"/><title type='text'>Jehovahs Witnesses and Suicide</title><content type='html'>Another of my beloved family members has committed suicide.&amp;nbsp; That makes four so far that I know of.&amp;nbsp; I say that because due to my leaving the Jehovah&#39;s Witness group, many of my family members do not include me.&amp;nbsp; I was a fourth generation Jehovah&#39;s Witness.&amp;nbsp; Since I left I have found out about four suicides just in my family.&amp;nbsp; It has been devastating to say the least.&amp;nbsp; And, that does not count the members who have considered it.&amp;nbsp; What can we do?&amp;nbsp; Why is this happening?&lt;br /&gt;
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I remember doing some research on this subject some time ago.&amp;nbsp; What&amp;nbsp;I found was that&amp;nbsp;over the last twenty years or so there have been many doctors and psychologists that have done studies and proven that the percent of Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses that commit suicide is much higher than non-Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses.&amp;nbsp; This is so sad.&amp;nbsp; What are we to do about it especially given the fact that most of them will not talk to us-the ones who have left the group?&lt;br /&gt;
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For me,&amp;nbsp; I write this blog hoping to encourage those who are looking for answers as I am.&amp;nbsp; And, I keep in touch with the family members who will talk to me.&amp;nbsp; I show I care about them and offer them unconditional love.&amp;nbsp; And one day hopefully they will be open to getting help for themselves.&amp;nbsp; I pray a lot.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Does anyone else have any helpful tips they can offer or experiences?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/9036854231063189176/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/jehovahs-witnesses-and-suicide.html#comment-form' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/9036854231063189176'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/9036854231063189176'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/11/jehovahs-witnesses-and-suicide.html' title='Jehovahs Witnesses and Suicide'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-149978366189677703</id><published>2011-06-08T12:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-08T12:35:54.423-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses and 1975</title><content type='html'>There has been a lot of controversy with the Organization of Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses over the date 1975. What is it&#39;s significance? That is the date the Faithful and Discreet Slave had designated for this &quot;wicked old system of things&quot; would end. End of 6,000 years from when Adam was created.&lt;br /&gt;
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I was five years old in 1975 and I was told I would never have a chance to go to school because the &quot;end&quot; was coming. I would never grow up to get married or have to worry over whether to attend college or not. I did not need to worry about having any long term goals what-so-ever. At the time I did not know if this was a good thing or not being only five. There was no discussing it, for it was a fact. The organization had said it so it must be true.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was a very frightening time for a little one and no doubt grown ups too. Every time we had a big storm (which on the east coast was a lot of lightening storms) we would jump in the car and go to grandma&#39;s the whole time knowing it was the Great Tribulation and we wanted the whole family together. I did not know it at the time but there were some (I have since found out) who even thought they would have to eat their babies in accordance with Duet. 28: 52,53. How horrifying for a young mother (mine was a mother of three and one on the way and in her early 20&#39;s) to think this! No wonder that experts say the Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses are riddled with anxiety and depression. (if you have not looked into this before, you should). And, as you may or may not know the Society did not recommend going to seek help. Especially from a &quot;worldly person&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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This teaching and others have changed the lives of all the members of the Watchtower Society in one way or another. Many gave up their careers and retirement to spend their &quot;last days&quot; proclaiming the good news to others. This would have been great if the good news had been good and if it really was true. Many sold their property and used the money to spend time pioneering and missioning others to do the same. Their sad stories are available on books and blogs if interested (very enlightening). This sounded like a very good thing to them at the time but where are they now? This has had devastating consequences for so many.&lt;br /&gt;
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After 1975 came and went the disillusioned witnesses, many did not know where to turn. They waited and waited for the Society of Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses to say something. What went wrong?! What do we do now?! Where were the answers and the responses? Raymond Franz former member of the Governing Body of Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses has shed some light on this for us in his book Crisis of Conscience. As the story goes there was a lot of discussion amongst governing body members on how to proceed. Some apparently wanted to apologize and others wanted to keep quiet and hope it would all go away. It seems to me from my research that there was never a big apology for false hopes or any system to help the folks who gave up everything based on these false hopes. If I am wrong and I have missed something please share where I can find this information. Instead what I found after going back to meetings (after ten years of inactivity) was when asked about 1975 that it was just a few over-zealous witnesses in a few different congregations that were spreading rumors of there own interpretations out of turn and it should be ignored and overlooked. After it was dismissed I never thought to research it on my Watchtower CD. That is until more questions and issues started popping up. Then I took out my Watchtower CD and decided to look up a few things for myself. I typed in the date 1975 and could not believe it. They did say in the Watchtower as well as the Awake and KM that 1975 was a significant date to watch for and that it was the end of the 6,000 years we had all been waiting for. The KM gave special praise for those who would give up everything to pioneer and never planning for a future.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am looking for others who have gone or are going through the same experience.&amp;nbsp; Does anyone have memories of living through 1975?&amp;nbsp; Many many people left the organization after the end did not come.&amp;nbsp; But, what about the folks who decided to stay?&amp;nbsp; My father is now deceased and my mother will not speak to me since leaving the JWs so i have no one to ask about their decision of staying in when the end clearly did not come.&amp;nbsp; Why would someone continue to listen to a group of men even after they did not apologize for their mistake and leading everyone down the wrong path.&amp;nbsp; I am just very curious.&amp;nbsp; It must have been a very hard and confusing time!&amp;nbsp; They did not have the Internet then to do any checking of the governing body.&amp;nbsp; Most JWs probably did not even know who the leaders were or where they came from.&amp;nbsp; Except by reading their own bio. written by them.&amp;nbsp; That is why the people who left were made to look and sound like &quot;apostates&quot; so they could not communicate with the current members for good or for bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please write me with your stories.&amp;nbsp; I would love to hear them and looking for anyone who was going to the Kingdom Hall in New England area around 1975 and are sympathetic to the ones who left and either became Bible Students or went in any other direction.&amp;nbsp; Many family members and friends have been lost.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sincerely,&amp;nbsp; jimmi</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/149978366189677703/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/06/jehovahs-witnesses-and-1975.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/149978366189677703'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/149978366189677703'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2011/06/jehovahs-witnesses-and-1975.html' title='Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses and 1975'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-169650976367084813</id><published>2010-12-30T06:48:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-30T06:48:09.783-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Bible Reading</title><content type='html'>I just had to post this because after being a jehovahs witness from birth and that has been thirty or so years, It just occurred to me how little Bible reading is done at the meetings in context.&amp;nbsp; Yes, it is true we are told to read the Bible daily and given a nice little schedule, but how many of the witnesses are actually doing the reading?&amp;nbsp; We do more logging and checking of out in service hours than logging and checking how many hours per week we spent reading God&#39;s Word.&amp;nbsp; It seems so strange to me now.&amp;nbsp; If you add up the hours spent at meetings.&amp;nbsp; Five meetings per week. &amp;nbsp;And, the&amp;nbsp;Bible reading is done&amp;nbsp;at the service meeting for only a few minutes.&amp;nbsp; This&amp;nbsp;just does not&amp;nbsp;make sense for a group that is all about studying the Bible.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;
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I wish this had occurred to me years earlier.&amp;nbsp; But, it didn&#39;t, and so I will share it with you now.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Yes, I could and should have done my own Bible reading at home and I did try to many times, but I&amp;nbsp;just did not like it.&amp;nbsp; I figured I already knew the basics from studying the watchtower and awake and it&amp;nbsp;just seemed dry to me.&amp;nbsp; I did not enjoy it most of the time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;
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Now in retrospect I see how the witnesses are&amp;nbsp;able to start bible studies with new people.&amp;nbsp; Most of the time (from experience)&amp;nbsp; the people we studied with did not know anything about the Bible or religion.&amp;nbsp; That&amp;nbsp;is why I stress to people the need to educate themselves.&amp;nbsp; Do it online (encyclopedia)&amp;nbsp;or at the library, but get to know the history of the&amp;nbsp;Bible and religion.&amp;nbsp; Inform yourself so that you do not leave the witnesses and get involved in&amp;nbsp;another group just like them.&amp;nbsp; As humans we tend to go back to what we know and feels comfortable.&amp;nbsp; The Watchtower Org. is an authoritarian organization and most leave there and go to another authoritarian org. or relationship.&amp;nbsp; Please take time to yourself.&amp;nbsp; To get to know who you are and what you want and what is acceptable to you.&amp;nbsp; You deserve it!&lt;br /&gt;
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I have done a lot&amp;nbsp;of reading and research since leaving the witnesses two years ago.&amp;nbsp; And, I still have a lot of questions but.......I know when to trust my instincts now and I am learning to&amp;nbsp;stand up for myself and set appropriate boundaries to keep myself safe and happy.&amp;nbsp; We all deserve this and we owe it to our children to teach them this also.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I hope all goes well with you and if you need encouragement, please let me know.&amp;nbsp; It is really hard when you are thinking of leaving or have left.&amp;nbsp; I know first hand.&amp;nbsp; My family is four generations JW and most of them do not speak to me now and so I am starting over.......but I am doing it informed this time and I want to be around people who accept me for the wonderful person I am even if I don&#39;t agree with all of their religious interpretations.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/169650976367084813/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/12/bible-reading.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/169650976367084813'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/169650976367084813'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/12/bible-reading.html' title='Bible Reading'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-8851641362257207805</id><published>2010-12-20T12:45:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-20T13:14:32.622-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Truth</title><content type='html'>What exactly is the truth? How do we find it? Many Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses believe they have found the truth. And, if the Jehovah&#39;s Witness&#39; group has a positive affect on your family then maybe you should stay with them. However, what about the ones it is not having a positive affect on? What if you now want to leave the group but you are told if you do you will lose your family and your everlasting life? What if you are told (as I was) that my children will die in Armageddon all because I left the group? Is this the truth?&lt;br /&gt;
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I do believe that the Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses do have some positive things to say and have helped some. But, once you belong to the group you can never leave without adverse affects. Is this right, is this truth? Are they really the only ones you can go through for everlasting life? We are going to take a look at that because I feel there are so many out there who have been scared into staying with this group (I know I was and many of my loved ones) because of these scare tactics. It reminds me of the churches that teach you will be going to a burning Hell...........Since the Witnesses have taught that Hell is not a place of burning torment and we will not be doomed for leaving Christendom then maybe we will not lose our everlasting life if we are questioning the Jehovah&#39;s Witness group&#39;s authority. &lt;br /&gt;
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First let&#39;s look at what exactly the Jehovah&#39;s witnesses say about their authority:&lt;br /&gt;
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1960 Watchtower July 15 Staying Awake with the Faithful and Discreet Slave says:&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;The facts show that during this time and up to the present hour the &quot;slave&quot; class has served as God&#39;s sole collective channel for the flow of Biblical truth to men on earth.&quot; (&quot;Sole Channel&quot;) &quot;The Bible figures this channel arrangement as New Jerusalem&#39;s &quot;broad way&quot; &quot;. They refer to themselves as &quot;A Modern Miracle&quot; and all others asleep spiritually. &quot;By 1931 the Catholic, Protestant and Jewish clergy were snoring in even deeper spiritual slumber than prior to 1914. Not an awake watchman among them&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;After the Battle of Armageddon obliterates this old world the New World Society will continue on, for it will be approved and authorized by the only government then in power, the divine government.&quot; They feel you must be a part of this New World Society in order to survive Armageddon since as they stated above only their New World Society will be left.&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;Only by keeping integrity to God and by associating with God&#39;s people, the New World Society, may we hope to survive the destruction of this wicked world in the coming destruction of this wicked world in the coming battle of Armageddon and enter into the new world of righteousness even as Noah and his family entered a new world after the flood.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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(For more recent articles on what will happen to those who reject their message see July 15, 2008 and April 1, 2008.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do the scriptures support this? What scriptures do they use to support these statements? Are there other scriptures that apply that may send a different message?&lt;br /&gt;
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The scriptures the Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses use in support of their New World Society and it&#39;s members as the only survivors:&lt;br /&gt;
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Matt 13:25 &quot;While men were sleeping, his enemy came and over sowed weeds in among the wheat, and left.&quot; (NWT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Matt 13:38,39 &quot;the field is the world; as for the fine seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; but the weeds are the sons of the wicked one, and the enemy that sowed them is the devil. The harvest is a conclusion of a system of thins, and the reapers are angels.&quot; (NWT)&lt;br /&gt;
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They also refer to Rev. 7:9 and 11:18 and all of Rev. chapter 22 and apply it to their organization. Again that is fine if that is how they would like to interpret it. But, to hurt and manipulate others by saying it is truth and you will die if you don&#39;t believe it and live by it well................&lt;br /&gt;
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First, you should not take scriptures out of context to get the full and correct meaning. By taking the scriptures out of context you can make them say anything to anyone. (Many people do this these days to gain followers so be on guard) (know your Bible well first before trusting anyone). But, in context Rev. chapter 7 clearly tells who it is speaking about and to whom. There is no need to interpret it because it clearly states that the angel is speaking of the 144,000 sealed &quot;slaves of our God&quot; &quot;sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel&quot;. The sons of Israel. It does not say spiritual Israel or spiritual Jews, it says sons of Israel. Literally. For further clarification in verse 5-8 it even show which tribes of Israel ie.: Judah, Reuben, Gad, etc., and how many from each tribe. Twelve thousand from each tribe. Twelve thousand times twelve tribes equal 144,000. &lt;br /&gt;
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As for the Jehovah&#39;s witnesses being the only survivors of Armageddon the scriptures clearly state that those who seek God with all their heart will find Him (Deut. 4:29). &lt;br /&gt;
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Psalm 69:32-33 (those seeking God and meek will live.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Notice it does not say to find His one true organization for through them only you will be saved. It says turn to God to be saved for there is no one else who can save you. Matt. 6:33 If you seek God first then He will show you the way and He will give you everything you need. Do not trust in men.&lt;br /&gt;
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As I said before, if you are happy as a Jehovah&#39;s witness and you find the religion satisfying, good. But, if you are having doubts investigate them and do not let others opinions or interpretations scare you or manipulate you into staying for the wrong reasons. God is Love, and He know those that are seeking Him, and He will not let you down. I hope you find this encouraging. I have many loved ones who are suffering from anxiety because they have doubts and do not know where to turn. This website is for them. I was in the same situation for many years because I was afraid to study on my own and did not know how to study and understand the Bible on my own. Now I know there are alternatives and I want to encourage others to stand up for themselves and Trust your God given Instincts. I was told my family would suffer at Armageddon because of my rebelliousness. How horrible for someone to pass judgement on another human being like that! But, I knew in my heart that I was honestly searching for God and He was the one I would answer to. And, He will be there for you too. &lt;br /&gt;
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If you would like to read a great book on the Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses from someone who used to be at Bethel please read Christian Freedom.&amp;nbsp; Raymond Franz is a wonderful caring person who was with the Witness Organization along with his father for many, many years and has a lot of history and inside information to share concerning the leadership.&amp;nbsp; He also includes great insight for Christians for&amp;nbsp;all denominations and encouragement on staying strong spiritually in spite of adversity and conflict.&amp;nbsp; I published the link below for your convenience.&amp;nbsp; Just click on the photo for more information or to place an order.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Search-Christian-Freedom-Raymond-Franz/dp/0914675176?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=honest07-20&amp;amp;link_code=bil&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;In Search of Christian Freedom&quot; src=&quot;http://ws.amazon.com/widgets/q?MarketPlace=US&amp;amp;ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;amp;WS=1&amp;amp;Format=_SL160_&amp;amp;ASIN=0914675176&amp;amp;tag=honest07-20&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=honest07-20&amp;amp;l=bil&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0914675176&quot; style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/8851641362257207805/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/12/what-exactly-is-truth-how-do-we-find-it.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/8851641362257207805'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/8851641362257207805'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/12/what-exactly-is-truth-how-do-we-find-it.html' title='The Truth'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-8833436101981014203</id><published>2010-12-20T12:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-20T12:30:26.001-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Torah Study For Jews and Non-jews</title><content type='html'>&lt;span&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=honest07-20&amp;amp;l=bil&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0827603665&quot; style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Here is the link to Torah study for Jews and Non-Jews that I recommended above.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bfm101.com/&quot;&gt;http://bfm101.com/&lt;/a&gt; .&lt;br /&gt;
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And after much research on the best translation of the Tanakh (Torah, Writings, and Prophets) from Hebrew into English, I ordered the :&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Bible-Scriptures-Translation-Traditional/dp/0827603665?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=honest07-20&amp;amp;link_code=bil&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;The Jewish Bible: Tanakh: The Holy Scriptures--The New JPS Translation According to the Traditional Hebrew Text: Torah * Nevi&#39;im * Kethuvim&quot; src=&quot;http://ws.amazon.com/widgets/q?MarketPlace=US&amp;amp;ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;amp;WS=1&amp;amp;Format=_SL160_&amp;amp;ASIN=0827603665&amp;amp;tag=honest07-20&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=honest07-20&amp;amp;l=bil&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0827603665&quot; style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span&gt;from JPS.&amp;nbsp; It comes highly recommended.&amp;nbsp; It is very easy to read and understand.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/8833436101981014203/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/12/torah-study-for-jews-and-non-jews.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/8833436101981014203'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/8833436101981014203'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/12/torah-study-for-jews-and-non-jews.html' title='Torah Study For Jews and Non-jews'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-7602070157974742496</id><published>2010-12-01T14:50:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-20T07:30:56.557-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Abuse"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bible Study"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christianity"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Church"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Cult"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Faith"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jehovahs Witnesses"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Spirituality"/><title type='text'>Are You In A Cult?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=honest07-20&amp;amp;l=bil&amp;amp;camp=213689&amp;amp;creative=392969&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0764228218&quot; style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px !important; padding-left: 0px !important; padding-right: 0px !important; padding-top: 0px !important;&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;Are&amp;nbsp;you in a&amp;nbsp;Cult?&amp;nbsp; Many would say of course not.&amp;nbsp; My group/organization is reputable.&amp;nbsp; We have normal jobs, we attend public schools, we are happy well-adjusted people.&amp;nbsp; Well, before you go and join their group, or any group for that matter, it is a good idea to see what the experts say.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;&quot;&gt;First, what is a cult?&amp;nbsp; Let&#39;s ask Steven Hassan.&amp;nbsp; He has been active in cult awareness since 1976.&amp;nbsp; He is a Nationally Certified Counselor and licensed Mental Health Counselor.&amp;nbsp; He has helped people and their families involved in several groups such as Moonies, Scientology, and many others including MLM groups.&amp;nbsp; He&amp;nbsp;says to look for ways the group uses control.&amp;nbsp; Does the group control its members Behavior, Information, Thoughts, and Emotions?&amp;nbsp; This is what Steven Hassan says to look for.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;&quot;&gt;Require obedience to it&#39;s self-appointed leaders without question.&amp;nbsp; Do they want you to depend on them for truth.&amp;nbsp; And, if you do not agree with what they say is truth do they get upset?&amp;nbsp; Do they tell you what jobs you may or may not have, sports you may or may not play, college you may or may not attend?&amp;nbsp; These are just some examples.&amp;nbsp; There may be&amp;nbsp;more or different examples.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Do they require that you tell others in charge if someone gets &quot;out of line&quot; or does not behave the way they would like?&amp;nbsp; Do they try&amp;nbsp;to impose lots of their own rules and regulations&amp;nbsp;on the group?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;Do they withhold information or maybe change it so that it shows them in a more positive light instead of being honest about their dealings or mistakes.&amp;nbsp; Do they try to blame former/current members for mistakes or failed prophecies instead of admitting to them and apologizing?&amp;nbsp; Do they discourage you from getting any information from outside of the group, even if that person may be a trusted friend or loved one?&amp;nbsp; Even labeling that person a troublemaker or apostate?&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;&quot;&gt;Do they use words like apostate, demonized, troublemaker, to label others that do not conform to their standards thus turning others away from them?&amp;nbsp; Do they tell you what you can read, watch, listen to and use guilt to make members feel bad if they don&#39;t conform?&amp;nbsp; If you come across information that makes them look bad or in a negative light do they instantly label it as apostate or other name to get you to leave it alone?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;&quot;&gt;Does the group use guilt to control it&#39;s&amp;nbsp;members?&amp;nbsp; Or, &amp;nbsp;maybe fear as well.&amp;nbsp; For example, they may say&amp;nbsp;that person is going to go to hell or die at&amp;nbsp;Armageddon if they do&amp;nbsp;not change.&amp;nbsp; Or, may be they use the&amp;nbsp;member&#39;s children in that way.&amp;nbsp; For example,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;they may say that if you do not attend meetings or other activities mandated by the leader&amp;nbsp;that your children may die because of your behavior.&amp;nbsp; These are all ways some cult groups keep their members from getting out of line or questioning their authority.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;&quot;&gt;Many of these groups use shunning also as a way to keep members from questioning.&amp;nbsp; If the group is told to shun a former member then they may be hoping any negative information will not get out concerning them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Please do your research before you join any group.&amp;nbsp; Even if they seem nice they are just like any other group or association.&amp;nbsp; There are so many people getting scammed these days you must show extreme caution.&amp;nbsp; Go to the experts.&amp;nbsp; See what they say.&amp;nbsp; The Internet is a&amp;nbsp;very large place and anyone can say anything about just about everything and everyone.&amp;nbsp; But, if you go to an expert such as Steven Hassan and others who are&amp;nbsp;experienced and educated you can&amp;nbsp;make a better decision for you and your family.&amp;nbsp; You can even get information at your local library or bookstore.&amp;nbsp; S. Hassan has written books on the subject as well that will be extremely helpful to your or a loved one.&lt;br /&gt;
His web address is &lt;a href=&quot;http://freedomofmind.com/&quot;&gt;http://freedomofmind.com/&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;&quot;&gt;I for one was totally unaware of what a cult was.&amp;nbsp; When I heard the word I thought of something very dark and brought to mind Jonestown or Waco.&amp;nbsp; I never gave it much thought that it could happen to me or someone I love.&amp;nbsp; But, I am sure that when those unfortunate victims joined they most likely found something positive in it at first too.&amp;nbsp; Also, if you have already left a highly controlled group or family the risk of joining another one similar&amp;nbsp;can be high if you do not become educated on&amp;nbsp;what to look for&amp;nbsp;and how to arm yourself.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Please educate yourself.&amp;nbsp; You will not be sorry.&amp;nbsp; There are many caring, loving, patient people out there waiting to help who know exactly how you feel.&amp;nbsp; It is possible to move forward and live a happy positive life.&lt;br /&gt;
These groups and organizations prey on people even going to their homes to recruit them under the guise of &quot;free bible study&quot;.&amp;nbsp; Steven Hassan an expert on cults was asked how do we keep ourselves and our loved ones from joining a cult in the first place?&amp;nbsp; His answer was by education.&amp;nbsp; We must be educated on what a cult is so we can stay away from them.&amp;nbsp; It is possible to leave a cult but trying to get a loved one out can be very difficult.&amp;nbsp; Much easier to stay away in the first place.&amp;nbsp; There are plenty of great books on the subject and can even find them at the library.&amp;nbsp; That is where I first received my cult awareness.&amp;nbsp; I was at the library for something else and came across the book Kingdom of the Cults.&amp;nbsp; It just so happened that my congregation&#39;s name was on the list.&amp;nbsp; I was dumbfounded to say the least!!&amp;nbsp; But, I checked out the book and read it and it has changed my life for the better and now I want to help others in the same situation.&amp;nbsp; I had no idea that the people who I trusted with my life and my children&#39;s lives were not as safe as I had thought.&amp;nbsp; I am glad I got out before it was too late.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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Some of these cult members if not most do not even know the deceit they are spreading.&amp;nbsp; They may think they are helping and that they have found &quot;the truth&quot;.&amp;nbsp; They may not know the groups history and the ulterior agenda the leaders have.&amp;nbsp; Check out the groups history before you join.&amp;nbsp; You will be highly discouraged from checking the groups past after you join.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;&quot;&gt;Here are a few books on the subject that I highly recommend.&amp;nbsp; Many of them are very inexpensive at Amazon.com if you buy used or you can find some of them at the library.&amp;nbsp; (I have purchased many books on line for under $2.00, all like new condition).&amp;nbsp; If you or a loved one has a similar story or needs encouragement please write to me in comments and I will respond.&amp;nbsp; My family was in the same organization for over four generations and very few of us has left which has torn the family apart.&amp;nbsp; I have seen the emotional turmoil this group has caused my&amp;nbsp;family members.&amp;nbsp; They are scared into staying and told to shun the family members that have left.&amp;nbsp; This makes it very hard for them to see what is being done to them and the help we could give them.&amp;nbsp; So in the meantime it has become my passion to help others in this sad situation.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style=&quot;border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;&quot;&gt;Below are the books I mentioned.&amp;nbsp; If you click on the picture it will take you right to Amazon and you can read about the book and others in the same category.&amp;nbsp; If you do decide to buy a book, &amp;nbsp;I do receive a small commission from Amazon which goes right back into cult awareness and education against spiritual abuse.&amp;nbsp; So, thank you in advance.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are some suggestions of books for cult awareness and education.&lt;br /&gt;
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How can a religion that has changed it&#39;s doctrines and beliefs so many times still be around?&amp;nbsp; I have read many articles claiming the history of Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses started in or around 1870.&amp;nbsp; But, this is just not exactly true.&amp;nbsp; Charles Taze Russell started his own bible study group in or around that time after rejecting what he found being taught in the churches near him.&amp;nbsp; Some people called&amp;nbsp;this group Russellites after him.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They were a a small independent group who rejected the&amp;nbsp;trinity and trinitarian churches but still loved the Bible.&amp;nbsp; Charles Russell&#39;s writings and followers are still around.&amp;nbsp; In fact you can still obtain his books and writings from the Internet for personal bible study.&lt;br /&gt;
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When C.T. Russell passed away his lawyer J.F. Rutherford took over the group and systematically started changing many of C.T. Russell&#39;s beloved beliefs about God and the Bible.&amp;nbsp; Many of Russell&#39;s faithful followers could not&amp;nbsp;agree or support the new president&#39;s beliefs and his strong personality and tactics and they left the new organization over the course of several years.&amp;nbsp; Some estimates say that at least 75% eventually left.&lt;br /&gt;
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Then in or around 1932 the charismatic leader and president of the organization J.F. Rutherford (also called Judge Rutherford)&amp;nbsp; changed the group&#39;s&amp;nbsp;name to Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses instead of the bible students.&amp;nbsp; This led to a lot of hurt and anger on both sides I would imagine.&amp;nbsp; when I was brought up in the 1970&#39;s people were still talking about it in hushed tones around the kitchen table.&amp;nbsp; I did not know exactly what it all meant but I remember it was not in a positive light and I specifically remember the name Russellites.&amp;nbsp; That is why the name has stuck with me all of this time and I was shocked to find out that C.T. Russell&#39;s followers were still around because I was told like a lot of others that Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses were started in 1870.&lt;br /&gt;
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I also find it very peculiar that despite the Jehovah&#39;s witnesses claim to be non-political or neutral their new president &quot;Judge&quot; Rutherford a lawyer did not seem to be so neutral.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He led the group to the supreme court over issues of their right to freedom of religion and freedom to go door to door and not taking blood transfusions ordered by a doctor to save a life and at one time shots or certain surgery.&amp;nbsp; I also find it curious that even though they fought so hard for religious freedom if a member wants out&amp;nbsp; or wants to go to a different church (even if it is christian) they will be disfellowshipped and shunned.&amp;nbsp; So, you may have the freedom to leave the Jehovahs witness organization but you may have to leave without your friends, family, your good name, and in some cases your livelihood.&lt;br /&gt;
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JimmiK</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/3597862022520551918/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/11/history-of-jehovahs-witness.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/3597862022520551918'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/3597862022520551918'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/11/history-of-jehovahs-witness.html' title='History of Jehovah&#39;s Witness'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-1445135301956765477</id><published>2010-11-26T15:26:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-13T08:43:05.337-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ForFormerJWs"/><title type='text'>Why Some Ex Jehovahs Witnesses Seem So Angry</title><content type='html'>Why can&#39;t some Jehovahs Witnesses just leave the organization quietly?&amp;nbsp; Why do some seem so angry and want to put their feelings and opinions into writing?&amp;nbsp; I,&amp;nbsp;of course, can only speak for myself when I say that I could have just left quietly but I was hurt and I felt that I had not been told the whole Truth.&amp;nbsp; Maybe I was partly to blame.&amp;nbsp; I should have examined things more critically in the beginning.&amp;nbsp; I should have researched the answers I was given instead of taking another person&#39;s word for it.&amp;nbsp; But, I reasoned, they are such nice clean people and they have so many good points and know so much more about the Bible than I do.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Wrong.&amp;nbsp; I am an intelligent person and I owed it to myself and my family to check more deeply into others&#39; claims.&amp;nbsp; Yes, they are nice and yes, they are clean and many are upstanding.&amp;nbsp; But, that in itself does not mean that they have an accurate interpretation on the Bible.&amp;nbsp; They have their opinions based on the information they read and their own experiences.&amp;nbsp; We all owe it to ourselves to understand what exactly Critical Thinking is first before we go and make life altering decisions.&amp;nbsp; At least that is my opinion.&amp;nbsp; So much emotion goes into picking a religion.&amp;nbsp; Part of the reason I was so accepting of the Jehovahs Witness claims is due to the fact that so many in our extended family ARE Jehovahs Witnesses.&amp;nbsp; We&amp;nbsp;wanted to be included into family gatherings.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Especially with children on the&amp;nbsp;way.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Most people I have talked to feel the same way.&amp;nbsp; But, now after having many of my illusions burst and several years later not only do I not have my extended family back.....some are even shunning me (and my children are a part of me).&amp;nbsp; This is sooo sad for so many and&amp;nbsp;it just does not have to be this way.&amp;nbsp; Please know that if you&amp;nbsp;are in a similar situation you can find a friend in me.&amp;nbsp; A listening ear and an open heart.&amp;nbsp; I know how it feels.&amp;nbsp; But, we are on the way to healing.&amp;nbsp; Know it or not.&amp;nbsp; And, you do not have to do it alone.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sincerely,&lt;br /&gt;
JimmiK</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/1445135301956765477/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/11/why-some-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-seem-so.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/1445135301956765477'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/1445135301956765477'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/11/why-some-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-seem-so.html' title='Why Some Ex Jehovahs Witnesses Seem So Angry'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-2491961923124100509</id><published>2010-11-22T09:47:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-17T10:26:14.036-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ForFormerJWs"/><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Captives of a Concept&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;is an excellent book concerning the organization of Jehovahs Witnesses.&amp;nbsp; If you have questions about them&amp;nbsp;Don Cameron is a reliable source.&amp;nbsp; Since growing up in the organization as a child I never questioned where our information came from.&amp;nbsp; Who writes the Watchtower and Awakes and where do they get their information, insight, and interpretations.&amp;nbsp; But, now as an adult who is struggling with how to teach my child the Truth......I want to know more about the Faithful and Discreet Slave.&amp;nbsp; This book is an excellent resource and I recommend it to those who want to know more about the concept of F&amp;amp;D Slave and to those wondering if they should join the group.&amp;nbsp; It is very easy to read and understand.&amp;nbsp; It answered a lot of questions for me and I hope it will for you too. &lt;iframe align=&quot;left&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; src=&quot;http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=honest07-20&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;p=8&amp;amp;l=bpl&amp;amp;asins=1411622103&amp;amp;fc1=000000&amp;amp;IS2=1&amp;amp;lt1=_blank&amp;amp;m=amazon&amp;amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;amp;bc1=000000&amp;amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;amp;f=ifr&quot; style=&quot;align: left; height: 245px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 5px; width: 131px;&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/2491961923124100509/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/11/captives-of-concept-is-excellent-book.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/2491961923124100509'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/2491961923124100509'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/11/captives-of-concept-is-excellent-book.html' title=''/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-8787614220256157075</id><published>2010-11-22T09:36:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-13T08:43:05.338-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ForFormerJWs"/><title type='text'>False Prophets</title><content type='html'>Did you know that the Bible gives us rules and advice on how to know a false prophet?&amp;nbsp; And what is a prophet?&amp;nbsp; A prophet is a person who is believed to speak in the name of God or under divine inspiration.&amp;nbsp; But, how do we know if they are under God&#39;s inspiration or they are just saying they are for questionable reasons.&amp;nbsp; They could also have very good intentions and may have had a very emotional experience thus leading them to believe they are really anointed by God to speak in His name.&amp;nbsp; We must be very careful in this matter and therefore it is best to see what God&#39;s Word says on the matter correct?&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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God says in Deuteronomy (chapter 18:15) that when a prophet speaks in His name and the thing spoken does not occur then he should be considered a false prophet and do not listen to him or let his words worry you or frighten you.&amp;nbsp; God&#39;s true Word always comes true and He is not a man that He would change.&amp;nbsp; The Bible also goes on to say that a false prophet is worthy of death.&amp;nbsp; And is this too harsh?&amp;nbsp; There are so many false prophets today leading people further and further away from the true God and what His Will is for mankind.&amp;nbsp; God does not want any of His people led astray.&amp;nbsp; So, if is vital that we make sure if any person or group of persons claims to speak for God that what they say comes true.&amp;nbsp; Maybe since you have been associating with the group things have been good and fine.&amp;nbsp; But, what about in the past?&amp;nbsp; Have they made claims that certain things would happen at a certain time and they did not?&amp;nbsp; Or, have they even said these things and then tried to cover them up or maybe even blamed their own loyal followers for making up dates and times?&amp;nbsp; Could you even trust someone after they have done this although their future actions may have been good based on what we read about false prophets&amp;nbsp; in God&#39;s Word.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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Choose your friends wisely and choose your congregation even more carefully.&amp;nbsp; There are many sincere followers but do not take their word for it for they may not have done the research.&amp;nbsp; Look and see the past history of a group.&amp;nbsp; Not from other upset members necessarily but from the groups own publications.&amp;nbsp; What is their history?&amp;nbsp; How long has the group been around?&amp;nbsp; Where did they get started and why?&amp;nbsp; From my experience a lot of groups over the last two hundred years have come about because a person had a very emotional experience and decided to write about it and then gained followers.&amp;nbsp; Not in itself bad, but sometimes it developed into a whole new religion or cult.&amp;nbsp; It may have led or is leading to a person or persons thinking they are now our mediator between us and God.&amp;nbsp; Should it be this way?&amp;nbsp; Yes, I believe we should all get together and encourage each other but should anyone be between us and God?&amp;nbsp; That is a whole conversation in itself and it is getting off the subject but just know that if a person or persons speaks in the name of God and it does not come true (whether they said it now or 100 years ago) they are a false prophet and we are cautioned by God not to listen to them.&amp;nbsp; Be wise and discerning.&amp;nbsp; Do your research!!&amp;nbsp; You will be glad you did and your family will be safer and happier as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sincerely</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/8787614220256157075/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/11/false-prophets.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/8787614220256157075'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/8787614220256157075'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/11/false-prophets.html' title='False Prophets'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-4861011183497447075</id><published>2010-11-22T09:06:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-13T08:43:05.338-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ForFormerJWs"/><title type='text'>History of Jehovahs Witnesses</title><content type='html'>Jehovahs Witnesses are a unique group of people.&amp;nbsp; You may have seen Jehova Witnesses&amp;nbsp; in the news or seen their documentary Knocking on PBS.&amp;nbsp; However, little is known about the true history of Jehovahs Witnesses.&amp;nbsp; They love to witness to others and are well known for going door to door, but witnessing to Jehovahs Witnesses is another story.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks to the world wide web it is getting easier to find Jehovahs Witness information.&amp;nbsp; You do need to be discerning however.&amp;nbsp; Not all of the information is true or accurate.&amp;nbsp; As with any group or organization it is important to investigate thoroughly BEFORE JOINING.&amp;nbsp; I cannot emphasize this enough.&amp;nbsp; A lot of groups will not let you read any other&#39;s information after you have already joined.&amp;nbsp; At least they will make it difficult and you could be labeled as too independent or even rebellious.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible itself warns of false prophets and that we should make sure of all things before making an important decision and hold on to only what is good.&amp;nbsp; (1 Thess. 5:21)&lt;br /&gt;
This would be especially important if a group or organization is claiming to have The Truth and speak as God&#39;s mouthpiece on earth.&amp;nbsp; So do not be made to feel scared for investigation and making sure a group holds up to their assertions.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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What though if you have already joined the group.&amp;nbsp; What if you change your mind or new information comes to light?&amp;nbsp; The Bible makes clear that we should be loyal to God and not to men.&amp;nbsp; He makes clear also in Psalms (145:18) that He is near to all who call on Him.&amp;nbsp; So, if a group of men are not what they seem, God seeks those that are seeking Him and obey God as ruler.&amp;nbsp; Do not be misled or manipulated.&amp;nbsp; God knows the hearts of men and looks for sincerity.&amp;nbsp; Whether you already belong to a group or are considering certain group.....follow your HEART.&amp;nbsp; Pray for God&#39;s guidance and help as well as others you know and trust.&amp;nbsp;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/4861011183497447075/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/11/history-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/4861011183497447075'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/4861011183497447075'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/11/history-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html' title='History of Jehovahs Witnesses'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-5724966010039885996</id><published>2010-06-18T08:43:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-12-13T08:43:05.338-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ForFormerJWs"/><title type='text'>JWs vs WCG</title><content type='html'>I was do&lt;strike&gt;&lt;/strike&gt;ing some research on the computer yesterday and what I had searched for brought up a very interesting page written by Worldwide Church of God. It had the harlot of babylon picture on the very top and it looked very very similiar to a lot of the photos I remembered seeing the the JW Revelation book. (remember how many times we studied that one?) I could not believe my eyes. I know now after doing alot of (forbidden) reading and studying that the JW religion is not all that original but I guess sometimes I forget. &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Did you know that the Worldwide Church of God (Armstrongism) has alot of the same beliefs as the JWs. I had never even heard of them until I was inactive and they have been around since at least 1934 also. There are just so many coincidences. Especially when the witnesses act as if they are the only ones with this knowledge. Part of me thinks that is partly the reason they don&#39;t want you to read others magazines. You might find that Armstrong is a better religion and go there. You may not feel so special as a JW if you know that WCG is also against the trinity and pagan holidays.......&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here are just some of the similarities between JWs and the WCG religion:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Reject the trinity&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Practice disfellowshipping&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Do not participate in war&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Do not vote&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Believe the cross is a pagan symbol&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;No christmas, easter, or bdays&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Love millenialism&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Believe they are the one true church&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Believe all other churches are from the devil&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prophesied the end of the world in 1970&#39;s&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Published the Plain Truth magazine&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Owned radio show&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I am sure there are probably more similarities but these are the most surprising to me. Do I believe as a JW anymore? no. But, I did think that they were at least pretty original. Now I wonder who copied who. Did the two religions feed off each other? Did the leaders know each other? Did they both believe and follow CT Russell? Miller?&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Now the WCG has lost their Armstrong leader and now someone else is doing the leading. It sounds as if they are now going back to mainstream christianity and changing alot of their beloved beliefs. I wonder where the followers will go that do not agree with all of the new changes. &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;And, should we be going to a church at all? They are just human leaders. But, if not a church where do we go for fellowship and worship? Should we just be meeting at small home groups? I am still left wondering and searching (not such a bad thing). &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;If anyone is out there with similar thoughts and questions please let me know what you have gone through!! I love fellowship on line at least. Can you imagine being in the 1970s and not being able to communicate with others who are questioning!!?? I guess that is why most simply did not question. Very sad.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/5724966010039885996/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/06/jws-vs-wcg.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/5724966010039885996'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/5724966010039885996'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/06/jws-vs-wcg.html' title='JWs vs WCG'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-4509722652681022202</id><published>2010-06-18T08:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-18T08:05:52.968-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Follow Your Heart</title><content type='html'>I am very curious where people are going after leaving the watchtower organization?  I really wanted to go to a local christian church but my husband was really against any organized religion again.  Very understandable.  But, I was very looking forward to meeting new people and having my children meet new friends!  I (we) really miss the gatherings and BBQ&#39;s etc. and the sunday services!!  But, where do we go?  Who has the answers?  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I started watching christian programs on cable and I really liked a guy named Les Feldick.  At first I did not know what to think of him.  He is not a preacher per say.  He is a rancher from the south who is very good at teaching the Bible from a christian perspective.  He really helped me understand the new testament expecially.  But, he taught the trinity and this was not something I was willing to accept and very upsetting to my husband.  So, I stopped watching him and started looking around again.  A year and a half later we still do not go to church.  I started wondering about other religions outside of christianity.  I stumbled on some information about Judiasm and why they do not accept Jesus as the Messiah.  I had never wondered why because I thought I knew the answer.  I had been taught from an early age why and I had accepted the &quot;offical&quot; answer and never questioned it.....until now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was very surprised by what I read.  I had never heard anything like it before.  It left me wanting to learn more about Judiasm.  I find it very fascinating the differences between christianity and Judiasm.  I did not really think it was going to be that much different except for the facts about Jesus.  After all I reasoned, the old testament came from them.  But, in Judiasm they do not call it nor consider it the old testament.  It is the Hebrew Bible.  The first five books make up the Torah.  Still very relevant and still very important and studied and is the basis for everyday life in orthodox Judiasm.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It just goes to show that we cant assume we have all the answers and we cant stop searching because we think we know the whole truth already.  That has proven to have devastating consequences.  Please, keep searching, keep reading.  The answers are there like hidden treasure and follow your heart and conscience even against seemingly all odds.  Yes, I know it can be scary and lonely if family is against you but you will lead them by your example.  Have an honest heart and it will not deceive you!</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/4509722652681022202/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/06/follow-your-heart.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/4509722652681022202'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/4509722652681022202'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/06/follow-your-heart.html' title='Follow Your Heart'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-6535096675337415116</id><published>2010-06-17T09:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-12-13T08:43:05.338-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ForFormerJWs"/><title type='text'>Family Time</title><content type='html'>So, I am wondering how others have dealt with leaving the JW organization and their immediate family.  When I decided to leave my husband was less than thrilled to put it mildly.  I had been baptized at 17 (long long time ago) and he had just gotten baptized the year before.  But, you cant really control the timing of these things.   He actually told me he was going to take the kids to every meeting and function wether I liked it or not and wether I went or not.  I was so upset!  What to do!!!??  Plus, I did not really have anyone to ask since I had just left my support system.  I could not go to my mother-she was furious about me leaving (and still shunning me).  My other siblings supported me leaving but had no experience in it breaking up the family and father still going...... I was terrified.&lt;br /&gt;
  To make a long story short, I decided to take a deep breath and think about it for awhile and then decide how to go about this.  I decided to keep going to the meetings until my husband could see &quot;the light&quot;.  That way at least I would know what my children were learning and I could talk to them about it at home and give them more than one perspective.  At least they were still very young.  And, in the meantime I would tell my husband little things here and there which started adding up.  And, then one day a very good friend of ours came and told us about her being abused by her spouse (one of my husbands &quot;very good friend&quot;).  We were so shocked.  They had met as a pioneer couple and her father was an elder etc.  How could this had happened.  Well, for me it was too close to the truth of my childhood (which my husband knew all about).  And, he decided when he was not counsled even after a police report!!, that was enough for my husband.  Plus, we had seen the stories from silent lamb website at around the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
Since then we have been studying with our family at home and trying to decide what to do next.  Any comments, suggestions or experience?!</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/6535096675337415116/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/06/family-time.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/6535096675337415116'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/6535096675337415116'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/06/family-time.html' title='Family Time'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-4646916468166099594</id><published>2010-05-28T10:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-28T10:56:52.818-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ForFormerJWs"/><title type='text'>Captives</title><content type='html'>Many Jehovahs Witnesses are afraid to leave the organization because what if the faithful and discreet slave is correct?  As a JW I often worried the same thing.  That is until I started doing some research.  Yes, I was afraid to use the internet and read &quot;apostate&quot; literature.  Yes, I was afraid someone was looking over my shoulder and would turn me in......but I was determined once and for all to make a decision.  I either had to cut the ties or go back to the organization.  I had been inactive before, for 10 years.  But, always too scared to look further into the org. itself I never really belonged anywhere.  That is a very lonely place to be.  I started by reading the Proclaimers book written by the watchtower organization.  It has alot of information but I found that I could find more info. by looking up some of the terms I was unfamiliar with but that were not elaborated on.  For example Beth Sarim. I had never heard that term before and being fourth generation JW I was surprised that I had never heard my family talk about it before either.  The other resource I found very helpful was the book Captives of a Concept.  It is written very well and helped a lot with my questions and my fears.  I would encourage all that have questions about the &quot;f&amp;d slave&quot; to read this publication.  If interested you can find it here. &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot;  href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Captives-Concept-Anatomy-Illusion-Cameron/dp/1411622103?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=honest07-20&amp;link_code=btl&amp;camp=213689&amp;creative=392969&quot;&gt;Captives of a Concept (Anatomy of an Illusion)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=honest07-20&amp;l=btl&amp;camp=213689&amp;creative=392969&amp;o=1&amp;a=1411622103&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important; padding: 0px !important&quot; /&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/4646916468166099594/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/05/captives.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/4646916468166099594'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/4646916468166099594'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/05/captives.html' title='Captives'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-865126335757185435.post-6637555981562252474</id><published>2010-05-25T11:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-25T15:45:26.906-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ForFormerJWs"/><title type='text'>Former JW Offers Encouragment</title><content type='html'>My husband and I have been former JWs and away from the organization for almost two years now. I have not really blogged about it because many of my relatives are still very active in the JW community. I am sure many of you will understand exactly how I feel. And that is why I am going to blog about it now. I am tired of feeling like I have done something bad. I made a decision with an honest heart and a decision that we think is the best one for our family. I am just so thankful that my immediate family is still in tact!! I would like to offer my encouragement and experience for those of you who are considering leaving the organization or who have already left. I am not trying to talk people into leaving. For those of you who love it and your family is healthy and thriving---great. But, for those who are hurt or just do not agree and have decided to leave but are scared---I want to let you know that there are a lot of wonderful people who have been through it either as a JW or another organization and are standing by willing to help you overcome your fears and anxieties. Yes, there are a lot of angry people also, but that is understandable due to the highly emotional issues at stake. We all have to work through the disappointment and anger that we may feel after leaving disillusioned. This takes time and a lot of love and encouragement. It is out there. But, you do have to filter through quite a bit sometimes. I have spent a lot of time filtering through the former JW websites and ex-JW websites and I would like to share the ones I have been helped by. I hope it is useful to you and saves you some time and frustration which is what you have probably had too much of by now. Leaving an organization that claims to speak for God or is God&#39;s mouthpiece is NOT an easy decision! But, please do not stay locked away in your home like I did for ten years (the first time I went inactive). Please do the proper research now and get the appropriate help for yourself and your family so that you can MOVE FORWARD in a positive way. Life is too short and God is a happy God. He does not want you to just survive...He wants you to be happy too!!!! And there is a lot of information out there that proves there is a Plan Of Salvation for Righteous Gentiles besides being in the JW organization. I hope this helps. Best Regards! J.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/feeds/6637555981562252474/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/05/my-husband-and-i-have-been-former-jws.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/6637555981562252474'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/865126335757185435/posts/default/6637555981562252474'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://honesthearted.blogspot.com/2010/05/my-husband-and-i-have-been-former-jws.html' title='Former JW Offers Encouragment'/><author><name>JimmiK</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11547813111186332978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>