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        <title>The death of good sales leadership</title>
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        <published>2012-01-23T16:29:14-05:00</published>
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        <summary>There are probably lots of places to lay the blame for the lack of good sales leadership. First, many organizations incorrectly assume that they need sales managers instead of sales leaders. Exceptional sales people can easily be destroyed by micromangement....</summary>
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            <name>ocracokewaves</name>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/david_sobotta_weblog/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a href="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341cc24a53ef0168e5f8b2dd970c-popup" onclick="window.open( this.href, '_blank', 'width=640,height=480,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0' ); return false" style="float: left;"><img alt="Hardtoseeresultswm" class="asset  asset-image at-xid-6a00d8341cc24a53ef0168e5f8b2dd970c" src="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341cc24a53ef0168e5f8b2dd970c-320wi" style="margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px;" title="Hardtoseeresultswm" /></a>There are probably lots of places to lay the blame for the lack of good sales leadership.</p>
<p>First, many organizations incorrectly assume that they need sales managers instead of sales leaders.  Exceptional sales people can easily be destroyed by micromangement.</p>
<p>If you have hired managers, you need them to master <a href="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/david_sobotta_weblog/2006/03/true_leadership.html" target="_self">true leadership</a> as quickly as possible. If they can do that, much of the management stuff takes care of itself.<br />The next problem is that there is a general lack of understanding of the whole sales process at the executive level. That inability to understand <a href="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/david_sobotta_weblog/2005/06/what_sales_is_r.html" target="_self">what sales is all about</a> is often the fundamental reason that sales organizations don't reach their potential. </p>
<p>The problem is compounded by management's laser focus on quarterly results, and the inability to appreciate the effort required to keep an account buying at high level much less a higher and higher level each year.</p>
<p>The truth is how can you possibly manage a process that you don't even understand?  Yet the world is filled with ad hoc sales managers who often do more harm than good to their organizations.</p>
<p>Managers who don't trust their sales people are often obsessed with tracking deals, especially "<a href="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/david_sobotta_weblog/2005/02/big_deals.html" target="_self">big deals</a>."  Most of these managers have likely never even sold a box of donuts.</p>
<p>There is an inverse ratio between a manager's understanding of sales and their need to track what they perceive to be every step of the sales process.  The less that they understand about sales, the more detailed explanation they will want of your what you are doing which in the sales world is often termed "your pipeline."</p>
<p>Many traditional managers views sales as some sort of voodoo magic where you trick the customer into saying they will buy a product.  There are plenty of sales training courses built around this whole concept.</p>
<p>The reality is that if you are doing a large enterprise sale, it is a little like throwing pebbles in a puddle and trying to get the ripple of water to go in a particular direction.</p>
<p>Sometimes it takes a lot of pebbles and effort. At the end it is hard to say which exact pebble was the one that made you successful.  A good sales person has lots of pebbles in their pocket.</p>
<p>Often you have to start small and build gradually into a large success.  Unfortunately management often thinks no small sale is worthwhile.  Sometimes that first sale to an account is a huge victory.</p>
<p>It is not unusual to hear that the "cloud" or the web is the solution to managing your sales people.</p>
<p>I don't buy into that. Tools like Salesforce.com or other CRM packages can be useful, but they  should not be used as a substitute for management time in the field.  I  believe that more often than not sales management tools have become a  square peg that lazy sales managers try to force into round hole.</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with tracking some sales activity.  However, assuming that the knowledge of the exact timing an initial small order is the measure of a good sales person is absolutely false.</p>
<p>A good sales person usually knows an order is coming and is already working on follow-up business instead of tracking what is already done.</p>
<p>You should track sales activity to know if your products, pricing, and positioning are correct. However, any decent sales system can tell that from monthly billings instead of forcing sales people to recreate a wheel that is already in motion. </p>
<p>If products, pricing, and positioning don't line up competively with the competition, it doesn't matter how good your sales people are, long term success will elude you.</p>
<p>A good sales leader spends enough time in the field with the sales people to know what is happening and to trust what they are doing.  It there is no trust, the whole thing will create more stress than humans can take.</p>
<p>Even with the right products at the right price, the lives of <a href="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/david_sobotta_weblog/2006/11/life_of_a_sales.html" target="_self">good sales people</a> are not easy. On top of the daily challenge of rejection, there are even companies like Apple who believe that the best sales people are ones that fight others in their own company for their business.</p>
<p>In day's hyper-competitive sales environment, there is nothing more demoralizing than to lose a sale to someone in your own company.  In a more enlighened company that person who took your sale would be on your team instead of competing with you for business.</p>
<p>Having your own organization or channels compete over business is a good way to convince the customer that your company's left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.</p>
<p>Good sales leadership takes time and practice, and it starts with an open door and a willingness to listen.</p>
<p>I can't count the number of successful sales that have resulted from sales people walking into my office and "bouncing" something off of me.  Usually my participation is limited asking a couple of questions that perhaps offer a different perspective. </p>
<p>You should also ride shotgun with your sales people every opportunity that you can.</p>
<p>Listening and some account call reinforcements are often the only help really great sales people need.  New sales people are of course a totally different story and perhaps another post someday.</p>
<p>In the end much of successful high level enterprise sales cannot put into a data entry screen on a computer.  However, it can be learned in the real world with the right leaders in charge.</p>
<p>The real value of great sales people and sales leadership is best seen when trying to get large customers to make a leap of faith which is often required with new technology.</p>
<p>While the Internet has made much of technology for individuals almost viral, there is still a big world out there where  businesses carefully consider their options.  That's where sales leadership and the teams they bring to bear on the challenges are often underappreciated.</p>
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        <title>When Barbecue is fast food, you must be in Eastern North Carolina</title>
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        <summary>Barbecue is something that I remember from my earliest years. When I was a youngster growing up in Lewisville, NC in the fifties and sixties, I remember a family friend from Kernersville bringing us homemade barbecue each year. I vaguely...</summary>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/david_sobotta_weblog/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a href="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341cc24a53ef0168e5e5610b970c-popup" onclick="window.open( this.href, '_blank', 'width=640,height=480,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0' ); return false" style="float: left;"><img alt="Smithfields" class="asset  asset-image at-xid-6a00d8341cc24a53ef0168e5e5610b970c" src="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341cc24a53ef0168e5e5610b970c-320wi" style="margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px;" title="Smithfields" /></a>Barbecue is something that I remember from my earliest years.  When I was a youngster growing up in Lewisville, NC in the fifties and sixties, I remember a family friend from Kernersville bringing us homemade barbecue each year.  I vaguely remember that it came from a contest at a local fair.</p>
<p>I can't remember the name of the barbecue place in Winston-Salem that we used to frequent when I was a teenager, but I do remember that the barbecue is similar to that served today by <a href="http://www.stameys.com/history/default.htm" target="_self">Stamey's</a> of Greensboro.</p>
<p>It is easy to observe that growing up near Winston-Salem, NC is akin to growing up close to the cradle of barbecue, which many would argue is Lexington, NC.  Even today, there are <a href="http://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=bbq&amp;find_desc=&amp;find_loc=Winston-Salem%2C+NC" target="_self">fifteen barbecue restaurants</a> listed in the Winston-Salem area.</p>
<p>There aren't many states that have <a href="http://www.ncbbqsociety.com/bbqmap/trail_map.html" target="_self">a barbecue trail</a>, but North Carolina does.  I will admit to eating at a number of the spots on the trail including Carolina Barbecue in Lexington and Allen &amp; Sons near Chapel Hill.</p>
<p>However, I have my own favorites. Perhaps the barbecue that I enjoy the most comes from <a href="http://www.mooresbarbeque.com/Welcome.html" target="_self">Moore's of New Bern</a>.  However, like many great barbecues, they are stubbornly local.</p>
<p>A few years ago while traveling the Interstates of Eastern North Carolina, we discovered <a href="http://scnbnc.com/" target="_self">Smithfield's Chicken 'N Bar-B-Q®</a>.  It has become one of the spots that we enjoy occasionally.</p>
<p>I say "occasionally" because we know that we cannot eat there often. I am reasonably certain that there isn't a healthy food item on their menu, but sometimes you just have to enjoy some barbecue. It is part of our culture in North Carolina.</p>
<p>While there are no salads on the menu, the Smithfields restaurants are amazingly fast, exceptionally clean, and friendly.  The food is consistently tasty.  The barbecue even varies just enough to keep you guessing just how spicy the first bite might be.  The fried chicken and Brunswick stew are also tasty. The Brunswick stew is so meaty that it is a meal in itself. I like that slaw comes standard on the barbecue sandwiches. It is near heresy to have a barbecue sandwich without slaw.</p>
<p>We hit the Smithfield's in Morehead City for lunch the other day just about noon, and it was packed.  We placed our order and hardly got seated at the table before someone was bringing us our meal.  They have a senior discount every day, and our hearty lunch for two of barbecue, fried chicken, Brunswick stew, and hushpuppies only cost us a few cents over $10.  We drink their tea mixed with two thirds unsweetened tea since the sweet tea is very sweet.  I am not surprised that I have yet to be in a Smithfield's where the service was anything but exceptional. </p>
<p>Besides Morehead City, some of our favorite Smithfield's locations are in Jacksonville, Newton Grove, and Siler City which might be the westernmost of the chain. The barbecue at Smithfields is eastern NC style vinegar-based barbecue so that might explain the lack of penetration into the red-sauce territory of western North Carolina.</p>
<p>We lived for years in Roanoke, Virginia, but it seems harder for authenic barbecue to keep a foothold up in the mountains. I don't even want to talk about the poor excuse for barbecue that I once tasted near Rocky Mount, Virginia.  However, I am happy to hear that Bastian's Barbecue is opening back up in Roanoke.  It is a worthy mountain-bred barbecue with a taste of its own.</p>
<p>In fact it you want to read one of my first pieces of on-line writing, you can check out my eloquent argument for <a href="http://sobotta.us/TheGreatAmericanMeal.htm" target="_self">barbecue being the great American meal</a> and consequently the perfect Fourth of July food.  I extol the virtues of Bastian's barbecue in the article and define exactly what needs to be served with a great Fourth of July meal.</p>
<p>Fortunately we don't have to wait until July 4 to celebrate great barbecue.  <a href="http://www.emeraldisle-nc.org/upcomingevents.htm" target="_self">Emerald Isle's 21st Annual St. Patrick's Day Festival</a> is only seven weeks away.  One of the few things that I will stand in line for is some of Bobby Petrea's barbecue, and his booth is always one of the most popular at the festival.  It is also one of the few places you can get his barbecue without hiring him to cater an event.  Bobby is a local barbecue legend.</p>
<p>Then it won't be long until <a href="http://www.ncbbqsociety.com/events_nc.html" target="_self">the annual Newport pig cooking contest</a>.  I have <a href="http://coastalnc.org/newportpigcookoff/" target="_self">pictures on-line of the 2007 event</a>.  As the weather warms, I might just have to have visit <a href="http://coastalnc.org/tryonpalace/" target="_self">Tryon Palace</a> this spring to check out the flowers (and Moore's Barbecue).</p>
<p>Barbecue makes me proud to be a North Carolinian.</p>
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        <title>The Death of Common Courtesy</title>
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        <summary>Most of my life I have been working with the public or business customers. I still remember back to 1988 when Apple let employees working out of our Columbia, MD, office get cell phones so we could call our clients...</summary>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/david_sobotta_weblog/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a href="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341cc24a53ef016760c437b9970b-popup" onclick="window.open( this.href, '_blank', 'width=640,height=480,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0' ); return false" style="float: left;"><img alt="Lostintheforestwm" class="asset  asset-image at-xid-6a00d8341cc24a53ef016760c437b9970b" src="http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341cc24a53ef016760c437b9970b-320wi" style="margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px;" title="Lostintheforestwm" /></a>Most of my life I have been working with the public or business customers. </p>
<p>I still remember back to 1988 when Apple let employees working out of our Columbia, MD, office get cell phones so we could call our clients to let them know when we got caught in one of those infamous Washington beltway traffic jams.  The phones were expensive but worth it.</p>
<p>Today practically everyone who can walk has a cell phone, and there are myriads of ways to contact people. In spite of being so connected that it is hard to get away from one another, I actually do not think technology should be blamed for the inexcusable way that people today often treat each other in our over-connected world.</p>
<p>I would likely lay the blame at the feet of the modern trait of caring more about self than others.  However, one way or the other, we have reached a deplorable situation.</p>
<p>The trip wire for this blog post actually started last week.  We received a call from a local banker telling us that the on-line mortgage that we have had for several years on a home in the Charlotte area had been transferred to his branch.  He wanted to meet us.  We were busy and told him we could meet him this week.  We agreed upon a day and time which he actually told us worked better for him than his original request.</p>
<p>We value our own time and that of others so we showed up at his bank two or three minutes before our appointment.  It is not our normal bank, but we managed to connect with him as we walked into the bank.  He told us that he would be with us in five minutes.</p>
<p>As we were sitting down, my wife noticed a banner behind the tellers touting that one of the core values of the bank was "courtesy."  It turned out to be a pretty ironic banner. </p>
<p>The bank was typical of a modern branch office with a very open floor plan where everyone could see everyone. After waiting about twenty minutes without further attention, I told my wife that I was ready to leave. </p>
<p>Being the calm one in the family, she convinced me to stay another five minutes. Our wait quickly turned into twenty-five minutes, and even she was ready to go.  We got up and walked over to the tellers who had mostly been expectantly looking for customers while we were waiting to talk to the banker.</p>
<p>I told them we were leaving, and the banker could call us and arrange another appointment when he could actually meet with us.</p>
<p>As we reached the door, the banker came running after us saying that he was sorry but that he had gotten a walk-in customer and had been running behind all morning.  I mentioned that it would have been very easy to walk over and tell us that he was going to be late, or even better he could have saved us the trip by rescheduling the appointment by phone.</p>
<p>Little of that seemed to register with him.  It was almost like he didn't  seem to understand that we value our time and had better things to do than twiddle our thumbs in his lobby.</p>
<p>It has often irritated me that someone who drops in unannounced often gets priority treatment over someone with an appointment.  It is obviously understandable in emergency situations, but it is particularly egregious when someone proactively brings you into their office only to effectively stand you up.</p>
<p>I am not stranger to appointments or unscheduled meetings running over.  I have had numerous job candidates in the office or on the way to the office when something made everything run late.  However, common courtesy dictates that when things are delayed that someone pick up a phone and try to alert people so that schedules can be adjusted.</p>
<p>To not make that call or effort is plainly rude and shows little consideration of others.  Unfortunately our society seems to be making this the rule rather than the exception.</p>
<p>It is easy to get lost in the forest of modern life and not see the important tree that needs attention, but by placing little value on the time of others, we create a society that will continue to get worse.</p>
<p>Recently I placed a simple call to someone with whom I worked for a few years.  I had a real quick question that I thought they wouldn't mind answering.  I didn't get a call back.  I actually wasn't really very surprised since the person was terrible at returning calls when I was working with him.  He had a particularly annoying habit of talking to you while reading his Blackberry.  In effect he was too "busy" for me then.  Nothing has changed except that I doubt I will be referring any business to him in the near future.</p>
<p>During the holidays, I forgot to return an email.  As soon as I figured out that I had let someone down, I sent an apology and rescheduled the commitment that I had made.  Everyone makes mistakes. Thinking they will go away by themselves is where most people go wrong.</p>
<p>Long ago I figured out that it is far better to admit up front that you cannot do something than it is to promise something that you cannot deliver. It is also better to admit a mistake than to try to cover it up with excuses.</p>
<p>Delaying the admission that you have a problem just makes addressing the issue that much harder.</p>
<p>We can all make excuses for the banker, but none of them hold much water.  He didn't value our appointment enough to tell the walk-in customer that he had a commitment that he needed to keep.  Perhaps the new customer who had garnered both his attention and that of the other banker will be worth more than our business.</p>
<p>It is ironic that we were very satisfied with our on-line mortgage until it got a bricks and mortar presence, and the face of the company became someone who made us feel ignored.</p>
<p>I have to contrast the treatment we received today with how well we have been treated by the bank down the street and our long time bank in Roanoke, Va.  I feel like a valued customer at both.  I still remember a vice president at our Roanoke bank making certain that we knew that she would not be available for signing some documents.  She certainly didn't have to be there for the signing, but it was really nice of her to care enough about us to let us know she was thinking about us.</p>
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