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Scout's Honor</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Standard-Examiner publisher Lee Carter expesses his &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"special"&lt;/span&gt; Thanksgiving thanks for &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden City's&lt;/span&gt; crime fighting team, Chief Greiner and Boss Godfrey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just for sake of archival consistency, we'll highlight two items appearing in this morning's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Standard-Examiner&lt;/span&gt;, which fall into the well-travelled &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Weber County Forum&lt;/span&gt; topic category, &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/search/label/Godfrey%20the%20Crime%20Fighter" target="_blank"&gt;Godfrey the Crime Fighter&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE&lt;/span&gt; carries &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/ogden-police-department/2009/11/25/crime-reduced-ogden-opd-task-force-sees-23-percent-drop-se" target="_blank"&gt;this front page Scott Schwebke story&lt;/a&gt;, wherein Chief Greiner pats himself on the back for a purported 23% crime reduction and then whines about &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden's&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"parolee problem"&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“It’s not fair to the citizens of this community,” Greiner said of the inordinate amount of parolees in the city. “It’s not fair to have to police them.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;And our readers won't want to miss this morning's &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/opinion/2009/11/24/safe-city-ogden" target="_blank"&gt;Boss Godfrey guest commentary&lt;/a&gt;, wherein the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Crime Fighter Hisself&lt;/span&gt; ushers himself into view, for a share of the spotlight:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I think Ogden's story is important because it tells other communities that the right plan and implementation can change the paradigm. One of the reasons I ran for this office was because a former city official told me that "you can't do anything to change crime. It has always occurred and always will."&lt;br /&gt;I'm surprised at how many people really believe that, especially when there have been remarkable changes in other high-profile cities like New York City. Crime will always exist in New York City as it will in Ogden, but we can significantly reduce crime. In fact we have done so.&lt;br /&gt;There will be some that won't believe that Ogden is as good as I'm painting it to be. To them I ask that they come to Ogden and see for themselves. Walk our streets and experience the change. There is much more for us to do in Ogden, but we are encouraged by the progress.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Mercifully, neither of these items is bogged down by charts, graphs or much in the way of verifiable substantive data.  Godfrey has tried citing real data before of course, &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/search/label/Mono%27s%20Crime%20Analysis" target="_blank"&gt;with very unfortunate results&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE's&lt;/span&gt; reason for the timing of these two articles, we can only speculate:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's Thanksgiving eve, gentle readers... and SE Publisher Lee &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Gondola Boy"&lt;/span&gt; Carter was perhaps overdue in expressing his perfunctory &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"special thanks."&lt;/span&gt; Perhaps these two items were stuck in a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE&lt;/span&gt; email inbox somewhere, since &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;prior to the election&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And here's the truly sad part, we believe.  With Boss Godfrey's long history of dissembling, spinning and prevaricating, even his remaining supporters don't know what to believe.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-4383486245076185443?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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So for the benefit of those &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;WCF&lt;/span&gt; readers who've not yet signed the petition, we'll once again provide the the two centrally-situated &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden&lt;/span&gt; locations where you can sign a petition:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Joyce Wilson (Weber County)&lt;br /&gt;979 27th&lt;br /&gt;Ogden, UT&lt;br /&gt;801-941-1613&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ogden-Weber UniServ (Weber County)&lt;br /&gt;939 25th St&lt;br /&gt;Ogden, UT 84401&lt;br /&gt;801-399-3746&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Notably, this morning's story reports that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"former Republican Gov. Olene Walker and other former Republican lawmakers are expected to express their support for the initiative during a news conference at the Capitol."&lt;/span&gt;  Yes gentle readers, there are many &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Utah Republicans&lt;/span&gt; who are fed up with the ethical cesspool which presently exists on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Utah's Capitol Hill&lt;/span&gt;; and the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;State GOP Central Committee's &lt;/span&gt;attempt to transform ethics reform into a party-partisan issue should not dissuade anyone of any political persuasion from signing the petition and sending a strong citizen message to the fatcats in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Utah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; GOP&lt;/span&gt; legislative leadership.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don't let the cat get your tongues, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;O Gentle Ones&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Update 11/24/09 10:07 a.m.:  &lt;/span&gt;Fine article on this topic from &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Non Partisan blog,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt; from which we extract this stirring quote&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Wake up people of Utah, this is your GOP and what they stand for. They stand for themselves, their power, their privileges, and their ability to continue to profit from the positions of trust you’ve given them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Read the full article here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.nonpart.org/?p=957" target="_blank"&gt;Utah’s GOP - Bastion of Corruption&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;If this won't get our readers' juices flowing this morning, we frankly don't know what will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Update 11/24/09 10:44 a.m.:&lt;/span&gt;  Mark your calenders for 11:30 a.m. on Monday, Nov. 30, folks.  The &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Deseret News&lt;/span&gt; reports that Weber State University will host a debate on the current citizen legislative ethics initiative at that time and date:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705346796/Weber-to-host-ethics-debate.html" target="_blank"&gt;Weber to host ethics debate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Seems to us that this would be the ideal opportunity for petition promoters to have petitions available for signature at this event.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-400578572689208610?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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You can find the 11-page document &lt;a href="http://www.rideuta.com/files/Ogden_WSU_briefing%20materials32309.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;www.rideuta.com/files/Ogden_WSU_briefing%20materials32309.pdf&lt;/a&gt;. It provides several suggested corridors and asks for public  input.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After attending two Rail-Volution conferences (San Francisco, 2008, and Boston, October 2009), and taking several mobile workshops to suburban towns who have embraced and planned for transient-oriented development,  I am convinced that the streetcar corridor must run up 25th Street at least to Monroe.  The city has been working for years to revitalize east central Ogden and the historic district.  We now have the perfect impetus for the project with the streetcar and planned transit-oriented development.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have provided City staff members with information and examples of how transit-oriented development transformed deplorable areas in these metropolitan cities into thriving, desirable living communities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Public input will have a great deal of influence as to which corridor is chosen so please don’t be silent.  Voice your choice for the corridor with your reasons for supporting such a route.  All agencies involved realize that the success of a mass transit system is public acceptance and use.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reasons that support a 25th Street corridor are:  1) It passes through two different developing historic districts; 2) The main Weber County Library is located on 25th Street and Jefferson; 3) The Golden Hour Senior Center is located just east of the library; 4) The Ogden L.D.S. Family History Center is on that route;  5) Old historic homes and houses within the area are being renovated and turned into owner-occupied single family dwellings;  6)  All of these are ridership resources with more potential than other proposed corridors, and 7) The revitalization of the historic districts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only drawback to this corridor is the cost.  It will cost tens of millions of dollars more than the proposed corridor along Washington Blvd. (UDOT will be a major provider of readily available funds because of a currently proposed major road construction project).  Ogden needs to decide how much they are willing to pay for a mass transit system and how to fund it.  It really should be considered as an investment in Ogden’s future and economic growth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those who agree with me, &lt;a href="http://www.trolleydistrict.org/petition.php" target="_blank"&gt;be sure to sign the online petition&lt;/a&gt;, and vocally register your support every chance you get for a 25th Street alignment.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-2031625431108677316?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Thanks to the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Standard-Examiner's original story&lt;/span&gt;, what started out as a fairly feeble proposal built up quite a head of steam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this morning, the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Standard-Examiner&lt;/span&gt; perpetuates the discussion and carries the below-linked lead editorial, reiterating some of the arguments of the above two &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE&lt;/span&gt; reader-contributors, and making a few additional points of its own. But in the end, the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Standard-Examiner&lt;/span&gt; editorial board urges everyone to place this issue squarely where we believe it belongs -- well back on the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emerald City&lt;/span&gt; political priority &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;back burner&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/opinion/2009/11/21/our-view-mayors-salary-not-top-priority" target="_blank"&gt;OUR VIEW: Mayor's salary not top priority&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;So in the wake of a week's worth of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sturm and drang&lt;/span&gt;, we're still scratching our heads wondering why this story commanded the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE's&lt;/span&gt; attention in the first place, inasmuch as Boss Godfrey plainly admits he's not seeking a pay raise.  Here's the money quote, by the way, as set forth in the original 11/14/09 &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE&lt;/span&gt; article:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Mayor Matthew Godfrey, who is in his third term, said if he decides to run again in 2011 and is re-elected, he would refuse a pay raise and instead keep his current $80,294 annual salary."&lt;br /&gt;I knew what the salary would be (when first elected in 1999) and don't think it's right to get a pay raise," he said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;In the interest of promoting a little Sunday reader discussion, we'll admit we're stumped, and ask the question again:  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;What was it about this story that generated so much SE ink and SE/WCF reader attention?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The floor's yours, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;O Gentle Ones&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who will be the first to comment?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-----&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;*Friends of Matt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-7319306677607548107?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Ogden Golf Course Losing Money! 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That thought hasn’t been easy for the Wildcats to handle, especially since they lost to the Grizzlies 31-10 in Missoula last month.&lt;br /&gt;“It’s a little hard rooting for them, after what they did to us, but we’ve got to,” said WSU defensive lineman Kevin Linehan, one of 17 seniors playing their final game at Stewart Stadium.&lt;br /&gt;WSU (6-4, 6-2 Big Sky Conference) needs a victory over Cal Poly (4-6) as well as help from other teams to get into the Division I Football Championship Subdivision playoffs. The Wildcats are one of 11 teams in serious contention for eight at-large playoff spots. So are Montana State, which plays at Big Sky champion Montana today, and Eastern Washington, which ends the regular season at Northern Arizona.&lt;br /&gt;Since Montana State and No. 18-ranked Eastern Washington could improve to 6-2 in league play with wins, which would tie them... blah, blah blah. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Let's hope our lucky stars are in alignment, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;WSU&lt;/span&gt; fans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As Coach Mac sez:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="text-align: justify;"&gt;“We’ve just got to worry about ourselves,” said WSU coach Ron McBride. “We put ourselves in this predicament.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Go Wildcats.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Update 11/22/09 9:07 a.m.:&lt;/span&gt;  WSU kicks ass, 47-14:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/sports/2009/11/21/wsu-seniors-shine-home-finale" target="_blank"&gt;WSU seniors shine in home finale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Update 11/22/09 4:45 p.m.:&lt;/span&gt;  Great News for &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;WSU&lt;/span&gt; Football fans. From this hot-off-the-press story, we learn that the Wildcats have been selected to enter the FCS playoffs, with a first round faceoff against William &amp;amp; Mary:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=294&amp;amp;sid=8769580" target="_blank"&gt;Weber State earns second straight playoff berth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;11/23/09 12:22 a.m.:&lt;/span&gt;  The &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Std-Ex&lt;/span&gt; just posted their own playoff selection story on the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Live! Site&lt;/span&gt; about an hour ago:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/sports/2009/11/22/wildcats-play-wsu-football-earns-playoff-bid" target="_blank"&gt;Wildcats play on / WSU football earns playoff bid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Congrats to the "Cats!  From this point on, Coach Mac's team has the luxury of controlling its own playoff fate.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-150239910805479594?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/w3oql31zJwXz1SFVfYYC5a0LIio/1/da"&gt;&lt;img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/w3oql31zJwXz1SFVfYYC5a0LIio/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/feeds/150239910805479594/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=12938570&amp;postID=150239910805479594&amp;isPopup=true" title="17 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12938570/posts/default/150239910805479594?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12938570/posts/default/150239910805479594?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/WeberCountyForum/~3/45k07Outjfc/wsu-game-day-thread.html" title="WSU Game Day Thread - UPDATED: 'Cats Make Playoffs" /><author><name>RudiZink</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="07706227240232865190" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">17</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://wcforum.blogspot.com/2009/11/wsu-game-day-thread.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUEEQ3o-fip7ImA9WxNbF0k.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12938570.post-1453393844130727521</id><published>2009-11-20T12:00:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-11-20T12:00:02.456-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-11-20T12:00:02.456-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="2010 Utah Legislature" /><title>Standard-Examiner Editorial: Time to Stop Double Dipping</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Note to our &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;"fiscally conservative"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; state legislature:  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Are you listening?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We don't want the day to completely slip away, without shining the spotlight on a fine lead editorial appearing in this morning's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Standard-Examiner&lt;/span&gt;.  In a most craftsman-like fashion, editorial page  editor Doug Gibson draws a bead on a quirky &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Utah&lt;/span&gt; political practice which we've &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/search?q=double+dipping" target="_blank"&gt;extensively ranted about&lt;/a&gt; here on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Weber County Forum&lt;/span&gt;, public employee double dipping:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/opinion/2009/11/19/our-view-time-stop-double-dipping" target="_blank"&gt;OUR VIEW: Time to stop double-dipping&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;We're delighted to see the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Standard-Examiner&lt;/span&gt; jumping aboard the editorial bandwagon on this; and we applaud the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE's&lt;/span&gt; no-nonsense proposed legislative approach:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Look, this is a no-brainer change to make and any Utah legislator who opposes it deserves to lose re-election. Utah is the only state in the Western United States that lets retirees come back to work with a salary, pension and a 401(k). The result is Utah has lost $400 million over the past eight years and will lose $900 million over the next 10 years. We just can't afford to bleed money like that, particularly during this tough recession.&lt;br /&gt;We have no objection to a public worker retiring, drawing benefits and then moving into the private sector. That is not costing the state money. But public-sector double-dipping is, and it needs to stop.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Note to our &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"fiscally conservative"&lt;/span&gt; state legislature:  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Are you listening?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-1453393844130727521?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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It is a beautiful building inside and out.   The individual bedrooms were very nice, but reminded me too much of the hospital rooms where I spent three weeks a year ago.  The home has a commons area or a large family room with a beautiful and well furnished kitchen next to it.  We also saw the huge kitchen where the meals for veterans who will be staying there will be prepared.   It is a big improvement over the Fort Douglas facility.  We were told that when the federal money is obtained, that it will be used to build two similar facilities in the middle  and south end of the State to service the veterans who live in those areas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At 11:00 AM, everyone was ushered outside to a bright sunny, almost cloudless sky overhead.   The dedicatory ceremony was very nice and touching.  A beautiful big American flag  along with the State and another flag were posted behind the speakers and Mrs. Wahlen on a raised platform.  Our National Anthem was sung beautifully and the Pledge of Allegiance had a significant impact on those attending because of the many veterans and on-duty service personnel that were in attendance and recited it with great emotion.   After the invocation by General Robert Oaks, God Bless America was beautifully sung with great feeling and the active members of our military services joined in the last couple of verses.  It was one of those emotional moments that won’t be forgotten for some time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The speakers were brief and humbled by the presence of so many of our brave and courageous veterans bearing the results of their personal sacrifices preserving our freedoms and our American way of life.  Coach Frank Layden told the story of baseball great Jackie Robinson (both of them were also Vets) and his struggles as the first black man breaking into baseball after he had served his Country in WW II.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was awe-inspiring to be a part of such a patriotic event, and it made one realize how much we do owe our veterans and our active military  members and their families for the great sacrifices they make and have made so that we can enjoy a wonderful life and the freedoms promised us by the greatest Constitution of the greatest country in the world!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-6547477531625708958?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Very, Very,  Very Important! - UPDATED</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;" class="event-description"&gt;Please come let them know that you support a 25th Street alignment&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;UPDATE: Dan S. live blogs from the stakeholders' meeting&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="event-when"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Trolley District Website&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="event-when"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.trolleydistrict.org/calendar.php" target="_blank"&gt;community calender&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="event-when"&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="event-when"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;When:&lt;/span&gt; Thu, November 19, 1:30pm – 3:30pm&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div class="detail-item"&gt;&lt;span class="event-details-label"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Where:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="event-where"&gt;Weber Center - 2380 Washington Blvd. (&lt;a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&amp;amp;q=Weber%20Center%20-%202380%20Washington%20Blvd." class="menu-link" target="_blank"&gt;map&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="detail-item"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;" class="event-details-label"&gt;Description: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="event-description"&gt;The stakeholder committee meets to determine their preferred route for the Streetcar! This is a very important meeting, since the consultants and UTA are pushing for a 36th Street alignment bypassing the Trolley District. Please come let them know that you support a 25th Street alignment!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="detail-item"&gt;&lt;span class="event-description"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;And if you haven't yet done so, &lt;a href="http://www.trolleydistrict.org/petition.php" target="_blank"&gt;please sign the petition&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;WCF&lt;/span&gt; readers who attend this afternoon's event are invited, of course, to chime in with your post-meeting reports.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We'll also extend the same invitation to anyone who might decide to engage in some live blogging.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who knows... maybe we'll get REALLY lucky.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Update 11/20/09 8:00 a.m.:&lt;/span&gt;  The &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Standard-Examiner&lt;/span&gt; carries its own post-meeting writeup in this morning's hard-copy edition, which reports that yesterday's stakeholders' meeting was &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;anything but&lt;/span&gt; dispositive of the streetcar corridor alignment issue:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/uta/2009/11/20/alternative-route-chosen-some-say-their-opinion-corridor-being-ignored" target="_blank"&gt;Alternative route chosen / Some say their opinion on corridor is being ignored&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;For our money however, the most concise and accurate thumbnail summary comes from&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/2009/11/streetcar-stakeholder-meeting-very-very.html?showComment=1258697389992#c7604692552597615961" target="_blank"&gt;Dan S.'s 11:09 p.m. remark&lt;/a&gt; in the comments section below this article:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The result of today's meeting was that there is no consensus on a preferred alternative, but they will schedule a meeting (or perhaps more than one meeting) reasonably soon in which members of the public can come and ask technical questions and offer their ideas. It's not clear what happens after that; probably it depends on how things go at the meeting(s). In any case, those who are interested should watch for an announcement and plan to attend.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;And we also believe gentle reader Conductor &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/2009/11/streetcar-stakeholder-meeting-very-very.html?showComment=1258674836259#c4163851088585068864" target="_blank"&gt;pretty much &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"nails it"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; regarding the question of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"where do we go from here?"&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I just wanted to thank everyone for their support in this matter. I do feel like we, the public, have made a difference in this process. We have at least opened the door for more public dialogue to occur before a decision on a locally preferred alternative is made.&lt;br /&gt;The big thing will be to get UDOT to come to the table on Harrison Boulevard, and engage in a Multi-Modal Corridor Analysis.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Special thanks to Dan S. by the way, for yesterday's highly informative live blogging.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We'll now re-open the floor for further reader remarks.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-3891853379905302565?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Very, Very,  Very Important! - UPDATED" /><author><name>RudiZink</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="07706227240232865190" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">39</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://wcforum.blogspot.com/2009/11/streetcar-stakeholder-meeting-very-very.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEINR3gzfyp7ImA9WxNbFkg.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12938570.post-5132828347749587</id><published>2009-11-19T07:00:00.014-07:00</published><updated>2009-11-19T10:43:16.687-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-11-19T10:43:16.687-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Ogden River Project" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Eminent Domain" /><title>Standard-Examiner: City OKs the Use of Eminent Domain</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;At this point the obvious unanswered question  is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;"Why now?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;By Dan Schroeder&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today's  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Standard-Examiner&lt;/span&gt; article answers the question that &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/2009/11/bits-and-pieces-from-last-nights.html?showComment=1258591275949#c7070356800717503910" target="_blank"&gt;I posed yesterday afternoon&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;•&lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/ogden-city-council/2009/11/18/city-oks-use-eminent-domain-land-be-used-ogden-river-redevelopm" target="_blank"&gt; City OKs use of eminent domain / Land to be used for Ogden River Redevelopment Project Area&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Eminent domain has been approved for three properties in the River  Project area. None of these three properties are adjacent to the river itself,  so this purely an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"economic development"&lt;/span&gt; issue, having nothing to do with  restoration of the river.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point the obvious unanswered question  is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Why now?"&lt;/span&gt;. Is a developer ready to start building in this area as soon as  these properties are acquired? If so, who is it and what will be built? Also,  what assurance do we have that the development will actually occur?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Editor's Addendum:&lt;/span&gt;  Here's an interesting sidebar.  This morning's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Std-Ex&lt;/span&gt; story alludes to the infamous &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Kelo&lt;/span&gt; decision&lt;/a&gt;, wherein &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"the U.S. Supreme Court ruled by a 5-4 vote in 2005 that cities can use eminent domain to claim property for economic development."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just to add perspective to the matter, we'll link a short article from &lt;a href="http://www.castlecoalition.org/" target="_blank"&gt;the Castle Coalition&lt;/a&gt;, reporting on the current status of&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Pfizer, Inc.'s New London, CT&lt;/span&gt; research facility, the same &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;economic development project&lt;/span&gt; which destroyed one &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;New London&lt;/span&gt; residential neighborhood and prompted the litigation leading to the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Kelo&lt;/span&gt; ruling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But first, an eye opening article lede excerpt:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Arlington, Va.—Pfizer, Inc., announced today that the company will be closing its former research and development headquarters in New London, Conn. This was a project that involved massive corporate welfare and led to the abuse of eminent domain that ultimately bulldozed the home of Susette Kelo and her neighbors in the landmark U.S. Supreme Court case Kelo v. City of New London.&lt;br /&gt;This was the same bogus development plan that five justices of the U.S. Supreme Court refused to question when the property owners of New London pleaded to have their homes spared from the wrecking ball. Justices mentioned that there was a plan in place, and that so long as lawmakers who are looking to use eminent domain for someone’s private gain had a plan, the courts would wash their hands. Now, more than four years after the redevelopment scheme passed constitutional muster—allowing government to take land from one private owner only to hand that land over to another private party who happens to have more political influence—the plant that had been the magnet for the development is closing its doors and the very land where Susette Kelo’s home once stood remains barren to all but &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;feral cats&lt;/span&gt;, seagulls and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;weeds&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Sounds &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/2009/11/river-project-graduates-from-firetrap.html" target="_blank"&gt;disturbingly familiar&lt;/a&gt;, dunnit?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read the full &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Castle Coalition&lt;/span&gt; article here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.castlecoalition.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=2422&amp;amp;Itemid=129" target="_blank"&gt;The End of an Eminent Domain Error: Pfizer Closes in New London&lt;br /&gt;Land Taken in Infamous Kelo Supreme Court Case Remains Empty More Than Four Years After Ruling&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Are the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;lumpencitizens&lt;/span&gt; of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emerald City&lt;/span&gt; unnecessarily about to learn some hard lessons from the oppressed citizens of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;New London, CT&lt;/span&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We believe Dan S. Got it exactly right. Gotta say we're still scratching our heads wondering how it was possible for council members Garcia, Gochnour and  Stephens to have been so easily lured aboard the eminent domain bandwagon at this particular point in time.  Interestingly, the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Kelo&lt;/span&gt; case turned on the question of whether the particular developer &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"had a plan in place,"&lt;/span&gt;  which logically induces the question:  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Does Boss Godfrey actually have a viable River Project plan in place?&lt;/span&gt;  If so, we'd sure like to see it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what say our gentle readers about all this?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-5132828347749587?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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I would assume that the vote was duly certified, and that there were no surprises in the final tally. I learned independently that Garner came out ahead of Garcia by 17 votes. Incidentally, all of the councilmembers-elect (Blair, Garner, and Van Hooser) were in attendance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The council agenda began with a proclamation honoring Allen F. Hampton Jr. as the honorary mayor of Christmas Village. There followed a long list of appointments to various city committees: Board of Zoning Adjustment, Board of Building and Fire Code Appeals, Ogden Trails Network Committee, Landmarks Commission, Ogden Arts Committee, and Records Review Board. Of these, only the last was controversial with both Jeske and Wicks voting against the reappointment of Robert H. DeBoer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DeBoer's reappointment had been on the agenda three weeks ago, but was pulled at the last minute. This may have been because I sent an email letter to the council the weekend before that meeting, explaining my experience with the Records Review Board and asking that DeBoer not be reappointed. For whatever reason, it was back on the agenda tonight and the motion carried with five in favor. Jeske raised the question of whether DeBoer had served longer than 10 years on the Records Review Board, in violation of the mayor's informal 10-year limit. The mayor's immediate response was that in that case he would favor finding someone new for the committee but he would still urge them to pass the motion. [Yes, he really did contradict himself that quickly.] In fact, the applicable ordinance prohibits anyone from serving more than two consecutive three-year terms. DeBoer served two terms from 1997-2003, then was reappointed in early 2007 and has now been reappointed through late 2012.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Following approval of some minutes, there was then a public hearing on a resolution awarding Arts Grants. The substance of the resolution was never explained (and I'm not up on the subject), but this was a lively item because a troupe of children in ballet costumes (Alice in Wonderland and Nutcracker) came and stood along either side of the dais while a citizen spoke on behalf of the grants. The resolution was approved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next was the petition to remove the stay limit for hotels and motels. One hotel/motel owner (possibly the petitioner) explained how they could really use the extra business from guests who wish to stay longer. But the Planning Department spoke against the petition and it was voted down 4-3 (if I recall correctly), so the stay limit remains in place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally came public comments, during which three citizens spoke in favor of a 25th Street alignment for the proposed streetcar. The speakers were James Wilson (who recently wrote a &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/opinion/2009/11/10/many-want-25th-street-streetcar" target="_blank"&gt;letter to the editor&lt;/a&gt; on the subject), Iain Hueton (a member of the Planning Commission) and Mitch Moyes. Wilson reported on a meeting that he and other citizens had held this morning with a UDOT official, who reportedly stated that UDOT would not stand in the way of an alignment on Harrison Blvd. if that is the consensus of the community. Hueton pointed out the magnitude of this investment ("we don't throw around 9-digit numbers very often"), the potential for a streetcar to unite the two sides of Harrison, and the importance of involving the public in the decision.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In response, Mayor Godfrey insisted that he would favor an alignment on 25th Street but expressed skepticism that UDOT would make it feasible. He also claimed that there is time pressure to make a decision before the next federal funding cycle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The council then adjourned into closed session to discuss pending litigation. I wasn't able to stay for the RDA meeting (with the decision over eminent domain in the River Project area) or the council work session (to discuss the golf course). However, Bill C. was there and intended to stay so perhaps he can fill us in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Update 11/18/09 7:24 a.m.:&lt;/span&gt;  The &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Salt Lake Tribune's&lt;/span&gt; Kristen Moulton confirms that Councilman Garcia has indeed been officially ousted from his Ward 1 seat:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13810690" target="_blank"&gt;Final count confirms Garcia lost Ogden seat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Who will be the first to comment?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Can anyone fill us in about the happenings with regard to eminent domain proceedings during last night's RDA meeting?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bill C...  Ferris?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-6704559815112229866?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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In connection with this, the aggrieved &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Powdervillians&lt;/span&gt; have established a new citizen petition on the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden Valley Forum&lt;/span&gt; blogsite, calling upon &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Utah&lt;/span&gt; citizens to chime in with their support for this bill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The object of this bill is concisely set forth in the body of the citizen petition:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This bill applies only to town incorporation petitions currently pending under the provisions of the 2007 HB466 law (in effect from June 2007 to March 2008), which allowed incorporation of a town and selection of town officers by large, non-resident property owners without any participation of the voters of the town. The proposed change would remove the requirement for a 24-month waiting period prior to a disincorporation election, allowing the voters of the town to decide immediately whether or not a town is in the best interest of the majority of citizens and property owners.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;In our view, this new legislation would be exactly what the doctor ordered for the prospective citizens of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Powder Mountain Town&lt;/span&gt;, who are being unwillingly impressed into a corporate-controlled municipal entity, with absolutely no say in the matter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We therefore urge all fair-minded &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Weber County Forum&lt;/span&gt; readers to navigate to the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden Valley Forum&lt;/span&gt; site, to affix your electronic signatures to the petition:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://ogden-valley.blogspot.com/2009/11/be-first-to-sign-petition.html" target="_blank"&gt;Be the first to sign the petition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Please be sure to do your part to help free the beleaguered &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden Valley&lt;/span&gt; citizens from &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Utah&lt;/span&gt;-style corporo-fascist tyranny.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are already 94 citizen signatures on the petition as we publish this.  Let's do what we can to seriously run up the count.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-1066532980915505396?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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We scoured the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden City&lt;/span&gt; website for tomorrow's Council/RDA agendas...  and here is what we found:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1)  This from &lt;a href="http://citydocs.ogdencity.com/FileGetter/getFile.aspx?Doc=00010061.PDF&amp;amp;Key=D3AC1651C2C910A7102E8796CC27B30D6C5F105E" target="_blank"&gt;tomorrow's city council agenda&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;8. Reports from the Planning Commission:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a. Hotel/Motel Stay Limit. Consideration of Petition 2009-13 eliminating the provision that restricts length of stay in a hotel or motel. (Receive public input. Deny Petition or request ordinance be drawn – roll call)&lt;/blockquote&gt;We &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/2005/08/sledge-hammer-solutions-to-fly-swatter.html" target="_blank"&gt;last railed on this subject back in 2005&lt;/a&gt;. It appears that the council now has the opportunity to  correct another heavy-handed Gang of Six Council error. The &lt;a href="http://wcfhelp.blogspot.com/2009/11/ogden-city-code-section-15-13-32.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"90 Day and Out" ordinance&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; passed in 2005 was a a clear case of Administration and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Gang Of Six Council&lt;/span&gt; overreaching, which unfairly impacted both low income families and the property owners who operate &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden&lt;/span&gt; motels.  Now that the planning commission is making this recommendation, we urge the council to repeal the ordinance without delay.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) And speaking of overreaching, we discover this most disturbing item on &lt;a href="http://citydocs.ogdencity.com/FileGetter/getFile.aspx?Doc=00010059.PDF&amp;amp;Key=1826976DE278EEAEFB29946FB8550CD059BB7678" target="_blank"&gt;tomorrow's RDA agenda&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;6. Reports from the Administration:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a. Eminent Domain Authorization for Ogden River Redevelopment Project Area. Proposed Resolution 2009-8 authorizing the use of eminent domain to acquire certain real property located in the Ogden River Project Area. (Adopt/not adopt resolution – roll call vote)&lt;/blockquote&gt;From appearances, gentle readers, it now appears that Boss Godfrey once again demonstrates his penchant for government tyranny.  Godfrey labels the few downtown property owners who haven't yet rolled over for River Project purchase offers as &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"holdouts."&lt;/span&gt;  For our money, we'll label them &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"American property owners,"&lt;/span&gt; with tangible property rights protected by the U.S. Constitution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It'll be interesting to observe how the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;RDA Board&lt;/span&gt; approaches this.  In our view, the first question the council needs to ask is this:  Given recent developments with respect to the &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/search/label/Ogden%20River%20Project" target="_blank"&gt;languishing River Project&lt;/a&gt;, does a viable project actually exist?  We're painfully aware of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Gadi&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Leshem's&lt;/span&gt; financial troubles.  But what about the shell company, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden River Development, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;LLC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, for which &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Gadi&lt;/span&gt; serves as a front man?  Has anyone bothered to identify the principals with ownership interests in this shadowy California &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;LLC&lt;/span&gt;?  Have either the mysterious company or its principals been in any way vetted?  And what about a development agreement?  In the event that the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden RDA&lt;/span&gt; is rash enough to initiate condemnation proceedings, what guarantees do &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden&lt;/span&gt; taxpayers have that this new group of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"investors"&lt;/span&gt; who'll wind up owning these &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"holdout"&lt;/span&gt; target properties have the will or financial capacity -- or even an operational plan -- to undertake this highly ambitious project?  And has &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden City&lt;/span&gt; put an actual developer under contract yet?  That important detail was still unresolved &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=12938570" target="_blank"&gt;the last time we looked at the subject&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seems to us any talk of initiating eminent domain proceedings is laughably premature at this point.  Seems to us that the RDA Board needs answers to all of the above questions, before it undertakes any act at all in the direction of dispossessing the few River Project property owners who actually pay property taxes. Seems to us the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;RDA Board&lt;/span&gt; needs to gather some important preliminary facts before it buries itself more deeply into this project, which for all intents and purposes now appears to be D.O.A.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what say our gentle readers about all this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who will be the first to wipe away those weekend cobwebs and offer a comment?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Update 11/16/09 11:45 a.m.: &lt;/span&gt; Thanks to a tip from sharp-eyed Gentle Reader Ray, we now have a link to the &lt;a href="http://ogdenriverdevelopment.com/" target="_blank"&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden River Development, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;LLC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt; website&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;which displays the same &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;half-&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;assed&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;approach that's so very typical of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Friends of Matt."  &lt;/span&gt;Unlike the River Project however, this website can at least boast that its &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"under construction,"&lt;/span&gt; which is a lot more than can be said for that Godfrey &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;Albatross&lt;/span&gt; -- The &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;River Project&lt;/span&gt;, once again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The website is reassuring, innit?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don't fail to chime in with your comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-6797897047518208871?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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It seems indeed that the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;UTA Project Team&lt;/span&gt; has &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"rolled up the maps, folded up the (public) comments, and apparently thrown them in the trash."&lt;/span&gt;  From page 11 of the above-linked draft recommendation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The recommended alignment would run east from the Intermodal Center along 23rd Street to Washington Boulevard and then southbound on Washington Boulevard to 36th Street. All operations on 23rd Street and the segments of Washington Boulevard between 23rd and 25th Streets would be mixed flow. Operations would employ centerrunning dedicated lanes from 25th Street until 36th Street on Washington Boulevard. Operations along 36th Street would be mixed flow with a queue jump lane at Monroe Street. Upon reaching Harrison Boulevard, the alignment would either turn east into the campus on Dixon and Edvalson Dr. and operate in a dedicated guideway through the campus or continue south on Harrison Blvd. The line would have a stop at the Dee Events Center park-and-ride lot and also cross Harrison Blvd. at 4400 South, with the end-of-line at the McKay Dee Hospital campus.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;The &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"next step"&lt;/span&gt; in this process is described on page 14:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Continuation of the project requires concurrence or all project sponsor and stakeholders with the recommended alignment and mode. The Project Team will be holding a joint meeting of the Management and Policy Committees on Thursday November 19th 2009 at the Weber County Municipal Offices in Ogden. At this meeting the Project Team will present the recommended Locally Preferred Alternative along with the supporting data used in determining that recommendation. The Project Team will work with all of the members of both committees to come to a general consensus on the recommendation in order to move forward with the next steps in the study.&lt;br /&gt;Once a general consensus has been reached the Project Team will proceed with the&lt;br /&gt;final publication of the Alternatives Analysis and begin with environmental analysis work on the recommended alternative.&lt;br /&gt;If no consensus can be reached among the committee members, a plan of action will&lt;br /&gt;need to be established to determine whether or not the project will continue.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;With this crucial meeting coming up on November 19th, those of us who see a 25th Street east-west alignment as essential to the economic development and revitalization of our central city have our work cut out for us; and we're operating on a tight timeline.  In that connection we once again urge our readers to navigate to the &lt;a href="http://www.trolleydistrict.org/index.php" target="_blank"&gt;Ogden Trolley District website&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.trolleydistrict.org/petition" target="_blank"&gt;sign the online petition&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As set forth above, it's the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Management and Policy Committees&lt;/span&gt; (and NOT the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;UTA &lt;/span&gt;bureaucrats) who will have the ultimate say regarding the final proposed alignment.  Let's not sit on our thumbs in this matter.  Let's all put our names on the petition and let the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Management and Policy Committees&lt;/span&gt; know that a centrally situated east-west streetcar corridor is what the&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; lumpencitizens&lt;/span&gt; demand, and that we WILL NOT SETTLE for a hokey 36th Street alignment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once again, folks... let's get crackin'.  If you haven't yet signed the petition... please do so now.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-2028324727525566452?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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But I don’t mean to imply that every Lifty has endorsed the specific Lift Ogden proposal to build two gondolas and sell off our foothills for commercial development. Most of them did. The rest, I’m afraid, will just have to suffer from guilt by association.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;“Smarty”, similarly, comes from “&lt;a href="http://www.smartgrowthogden.org/" target="_blank"&gt;Smart Growth Ogden&lt;/a&gt;”, the organization that was formed in reaction to Lift Ogden on a platform of preserving open space, fiscal responsibility, and open government. But today’s Smarty Party is a much broader coalition.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Although the Gondola War subsided in 2007, both parties grew and consolidated during the &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/search/label/2007%20Municipal%20Election" target="_blank"&gt;municipal election campaign&lt;/a&gt; that fall. The parties were equally visible in the just-finished &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/search/label/2009%20Municipal%20Election" target="_blank"&gt;city council campaign&lt;/a&gt;. Candidates Van Hooser and Blair, plus incumbent Garcia, were the unofficial nominees of the Smarty Party; candidates Hains, Phipps, and Garner were the Lifty nominees.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Fascinatingly, the Lifty/Smarty split seems to be completely uncorrelated with the Democrat/Republican split in state and national politics. Matthew Godfrey and Susan Van Hooser are both registered Republicans, and both are supported by prominent local Democrats (e.g., Allens and Halls).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Like the national parties, the Lifties and the Smarties don’t disagree on everything. The vast majority of city council votes are unanimous. Lifties and Smarties work side by side every day to improve our city. A few politicians (e.g., Doug Stephens and Patrick Dean), plus a large number of voters, have no strong leaning toward either party.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;And like the national parties, both the Lifties and the Smarties are really coalitions of multiple interests. Over time, these coalitions will undoubtedly shift. Since no laws recognize or support a two-party system in local elections, it’s quite possible that Ogden’s current parties will prove to be ephemeral.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;For now, however, both parties are held together by one man: Matthew Godfrey. Over the last ten years our mayor has pushed large numbers of Ogdenites squarely into one party or the other, by rewarding &lt;a href="http://wcfgoldmine.com/GodfreyContributions.html" target="_blank"&gt;loyalty&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://wcfhelp.blogspot.com/2007/11/sonja-jorgensen-endorsement.html" target="_blank"&gt;punishing&lt;/a&gt; dissent at every opportunity. He strongly believes that everyone in Ogden is either with him or against him, and his actions have increasingly made that belief a reality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is it good or bad to have a two-party system? This system has served our nation pretty well for the last century and a half, and it’s hard to imagine a strong democracy without it. At the same time, it exacerbates polarization in our government, our communities, and sometimes our homes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Similarly, in Ogden, the Lifty-Smarty split is both good and bad. It seems to be increasing the level of interest and participation in local politics, giving voters clearer choices. Yet just as in national politics, the increased polarization often gets in the way of progress.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Whether we love it or hate it, Ogden’s two-party system is a reality that we might as well acknowledge. It won’t go away until at least 2011.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-6448097079779187509?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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This is our last opportunity to tell UDOT and UTA how we feel.  Thank you all!&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well Shalae, that's exactly what we're doing at &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Weber County Forum&lt;/span&gt;.  We're telling our friends.  And &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;believe-you- me...&lt;/span&gt; we have thousands of them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you're in favor of a 25th/26th streetcar corridor which would actually serve the heart of&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Ogden&lt;/span&gt;, be sure to navigate to the link provided above, and enter your information to the petition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you're in favor of the 36th street alignment... just go fishin'. I hear they're catchin' 24-inch &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Tiger Trout"&lt;/span&gt; hybrids on Burch Creek.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's get crackin', &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;WCF&lt;/span&gt; readers... log you names onto the petition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A seven-lane highway is what &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;UTA/UDOT&lt;/span&gt; have ultimately planned for &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden's&lt;/span&gt; already overbuilt Harrison Boulevard; and according to &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/2009/11/standard-examiner-letter-many-want-25th.html?showComment=1257996341798#c2538700879930509907" target="_blank"&gt;at least one well informed gentle reader's speculation&lt;/a&gt;, that's why &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;UTA/UDOT&lt;/span&gt; is holding out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you're mad as hell, please chime in with your comment.  If you're madder than hell, chip in twice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whatever your current state of mind may be however, please be sure to &lt;a href="http://www.trolleydistrict.org/petition" target="_blank"&gt;"sign" the petition&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Update 11/22/09 6:;59  p.m.:&lt;/span&gt; Happily, the little glitch in the online petition software which was earlier reported in this space... has now been fixed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's the petition link again:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.trolleydistrict.org/petition" target="_blank"&gt;Sign the online petition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Have at it, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;O Gentle Ones...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-7946743404110908399?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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You'd  think the editors would be embarrassed:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/business/2009/11/11/3-vacant-ogden-buildings-not-ready" target="_blank"&gt;3 vacant Ogden buildings not ready&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;If you recall, a couple of weeks before the  Council election [in which Mayor Godfrey was strongly backing two candidates for  open seats], &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/2009/10/standard-examiner-outlet-stores-in.html" target="_blank"&gt;the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE&lt;/span&gt; reported&lt;/a&gt; that the Mayor had announced that in a month or so  [after the election] he hoped to announce that three new manufacturers' outlet  stores would open on Washington Blvd. just across from The Junction. Or maybe  only one. In any case, the city said it would not name the companies. This the  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE&lt;/span&gt; inexplicably treated as a major news story, not as the Administration's  attempt to run up support for its candidates in the approaching election. There  really was no actual &lt;i&gt;news&lt;/i&gt; in the story at all [Mayor announcing that he  hoped to announce later three stores, or maybe one, none of which he would name,  were coming to Ogden.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Almost a month has now passed. The election is over. And  do we see this morning that the mayor has announced what the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE&lt;/span&gt; dutifully  reported three weeks ago that he announced that he hoped to announce?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ah....  no. Today Mr. Schwebke reports there will be no announcement about three  companies ---or maybe one --- opening outlet stores on Washington this year.  Because the buildings the city is rehabbing for them won't be ready. We're told  by administration sporkesmen that the Mayor's office had hoped the stores would  be open for the Christmas shopping season, but, sadly, the buildings won't be  ready in time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, we're supposed to believe that four weeks ago, the  Administration expected the stores to be leased, stocked and open for the  Christmas selling season [which begins in two weeks], but that now, only four  weeks later, the administration has suddenly realized that not only will the  stores not be leased and open for the Christmas selling season, they won't be  ready for occupancy until sometime next year. Oooops! Sorry 'bout that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, is the Godfrey administration at least willing tell us what stores  have not signed the leases we were told the Mayor hoped to announce had been  signed by now? Ah... no. In fact, now we're told there's no rush to sign leases  or to announce the companies [allegedly] involved since the stores won't be  ready for occupancy until sometime next year anyway. Maybe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let us hope  that at least the news editors of the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE&lt;/span&gt; understand now just how easily they  were played by the administration last month, and that they will be reluctant to  run &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Mayor announces he expects to announce"&lt;/span&gt; stories in the future.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-8488590565319884971?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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"Returning to work soon after retiring suggests the retirees had not genuinely intended on ending their public service careers."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p align="right"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Utah State Auditor&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/economy/2009/11/11/getting-retirement-and-salary" target="_blank"&gt;Getting retirement and salary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;November 12, 2009&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"The retired in place system is valuable because it allows municipalities to rehire police chiefs or sheriff for the same job at a lower rate within the pay scale." [...]&lt;br /&gt;"Then you have the same person that you pay less and the same amount of service and job experience," he said."It's a good incentive for citizens and cities because it allows cities to renegotiate salary and benefits packages."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p align="right"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chief Jon Greiner&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/economy/2009/11/11/getting-retirement-and-salary" target="_blank"&gt;Getting retirement and salary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;November 12, 2009&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden City's&lt;/span&gt; Chief of Police and State Senator Jon Greiner again gets his mugshot plastered onto the front page of this morning's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Standard-Examiner&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/economy/2009/11/11/getting-retirement-and-salary" target="_blank"&gt;with this AP/SE Staff story&lt;/a&gt;, which reports that the the State Auditor's office has recommended a ban on the practice of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"double-dipping,"&lt;/span&gt; a unique &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Utah&lt;/span&gt; quirk, whereby some well-connected government employees are legally-entitled to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"retire in place,"&lt;/span&gt; and then go on collecting a salary in addition to state retirement benefits.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Several eye-popping facts emerge from this morning's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Std-Ex&lt;/span&gt; story:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;•  The state retirement system covers state and local governments, as well as public and higher education employers.&lt;br /&gt;• The audit said allowing rehired employees to collect pension benefits has cost the state more than $400 million in the past eight years and will cost nearly $900 million over the next 10.&lt;br /&gt;• Utah is the only western state that allows retirees to return to work with a salary, pension and 401(k) plan. The audit recommends requiring employers to make contributions to the state retirement fund instead of personal 401(k) plans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Both the &lt;a href="http://www.sltrib.com/Utah/ci_13762505" target="_blank"&gt;Salt Lake Tribune&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705343687/Audit-calls-for-end-to-rehiring-retirees.html" target="_blank"&gt;Deseret News&lt;/a&gt; are also all over this topic this morning too, with stories which do not, (unlike the one in this morning's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Std-Ex&lt;/span&gt;,)  directly focus on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden's&lt;/span&gt; police chief as the poster boy for the egregious &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Utah&lt;/span&gt; practice of allowing certain &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;good ole boys (and gals)&lt;/span&gt; to spend a virtual lifetime wallowing in the public trough.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now that the state legislature has its back pressed to the wall with the severe state tax revenue shortfalls resulting from the ongoing 2008-09 Great Recession, will our legislators act swiftly and decisively to enact the State Auditor's recommendation into Utah law?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We'll volunteer to say won't be holding our breath.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-8059860009820682719?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Believe us... we've looked.  Nevertheless we did find one &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Weber County Forum&lt;/span&gt;-topical item over on the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Standard-Examiner &lt;/span&gt;website this morning which we believe ought to spark some reader discussion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Everyone remembers The  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;UTA&lt;/span&gt; open houses which were held last spring, where &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emerald City&lt;/span&gt; citizens were invited to examine preliminary  &lt;a href="http://www.rideuta.com/files/Ogden_WSU_briefing%20materials32309.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;UTA&lt;/span&gt; studies and documents&lt;/a&gt; , and then to chime in with their own opinions regarding the best streetcar alignments for a new public transportation corridor. We believed these meetings to have been sufficiently important that we published a record-length  &lt;a href="http://wcfhelp.blogspot.com/2009/11/emerald-city-streetcar-open-houses.html" target="_blank"&gt;series of dunning reminders&lt;/a&gt;. And as regular readers will recall, Emerald City citizens enthusiastically responded -- these public sessions were well-attended -- and the citizens of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emerald City&lt;/span&gt; did dutifully chime in.  And according to our unimpeachable sources, a 25th/25th street east-west alignment was the citizens' overwhelming choice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KekqeP3txok/SvsDBkHrJMI/AAAAAAAABNs/GuS6gWmQ02U/s1600-h/bureaucrats.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 116px; height: 77px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KekqeP3txok/SvsDBkHrJMI/AAAAAAAABNs/GuS6gWmQ02U/s200/bureaucrats.jpeg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402915503371658434" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Word on the street however is that a 36th street corridor is the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Utah&lt;/span&gt; transportation bureaucrats' preferred route; and everyone already knows that's also Boss Godfrey's top choice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well... we caught a disturbing &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Standard-Examiner&lt;/span&gt; letter to the editor this morning, wherein Ogden resident James Wilson offers up his prognostication on what the UTA will do with the data which we so diligently submitted.  Mr. Wilson's opening paragraph sets the tone:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;After meeting with citizens of Ogden and Weber County in two public open houses earlier this year, to gain feedback on possible streetcar alignments for a new public transportation corridor, our public representatives have rolled up the maps, folded up the comments, and apparently thrown them in the trash. These agencies are on auto-pilot, working against all rational arguments for a 25th street streetcar, and are instead pushing their own 36th street alignment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;We're linking the rest of Mr. Wilson's letter here, for those readers who are now sufficiently steamed as to desire to read on:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/opinion/2009/11/10/many-want-25th-street-streetcar" target="_blank"&gt;Many want a 25th Street streetcar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;We don't know whether Mr. Wilson is hooked up with the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;UTA/UDOT&lt;/span&gt; or whether he's privy to any insider information; but his prediction does have a ring of truth to our admittedly jaded ear.  What Mr. Wilson is predicting smells like classic bureaucratic behavior to us, where our public servants so often technically fulfill formal public notice requirements, and then proceed to do whatever the hell they want.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just for good measure, we'll  provide the same &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;UTA&lt;/span&gt; email link that we earlier published during the springtime public input period:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="mailto:lscanlon@rideuta.com"&gt;lscanlon@rideuta.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;What the heck... perhaps a few scathing citizen emails might help.  Under the circumstances we doubt it could hurt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please feel free to chime in here, gentle readers, with any other suggestions which you might provide to get planning for a reasonable streetcar route back on track.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's it for now; we'll stand back and await your ever-savvy comments.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/12938570-581158117026501925?l=wcforum.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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We'll briefly reel them off one by one:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) Last week &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/2009/11/powder-mountain-update-union-station.html" target="_blank"&gt;we provided a heads-up&lt;/a&gt; about the latest development in the &lt;a href="http://wcforum.blogspot.com/search/label/Powder%20Mountain%20Rezone" target="_blank"&gt;Powder Mountain standoff&lt;/a&gt;, a fundraising event (music, dinner and melodrama) at &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ogden's Union Station&lt;/span&gt; for this coming Friday, November 13. This morning, the&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; SE&lt;/span&gt; generously carries its own promotional writeup too:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/business/2009/11/09/event-benefit-resort-town-fight" target="_blank"&gt;Event to benefit resort town fight&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Interestingly, the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE's&lt;/span&gt; Di Lewis reports that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"more than a third of those who've already bought tickets actually can't attend, so they redonated the tickets to be sold again."&lt;/span&gt;  In this connection we do hope a few of our readers will have the available time on their calenders to make this event.  If not however, why not throw in a donation via the contact info supplied in this morning's story?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Donations may be made or tickets purchased from Chelse Maughan at (801) 745-4627 or chelse21@hotmail.com, or from Valley Market and Eden Coffee and Cocoa. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;2) Apparently we're not the only ones who believe the taxpayer's of Ogden got burned when we farmed out the counting of last Tuesday's 2009 municipal election ballots to the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Weber County Election&lt;/span&gt; Department for a tidy $60 thousand fee.  From this morning's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE&lt;/span&gt; editorial:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;But then we come to Ogden, where slightly more than 6,200 ballots were cast for four city council seats. They were high-profile races. Eager for the results we waited ... and waited ... and waited ... and waited ... and waited ... On Wednesday, around 2:30 a.m. the city was finally able to post results. That's just pathetic. Unfortunately, it's not the first time Ogden election counting has trailed most of the Top of Utah. We hope this isn't a trend. [...]&lt;br /&gt;Frankly, a few pairs of eyes might have counted 6,232 ballots before the county released results. The county needs to deliver quality service to Ogden, and on election night it didn't.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Check out the full editorial here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/opinion/2009/11/09/our-view-election-counting-follies" target="_blank"&gt;OUR VIEW: Election counting follies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;3) And for those who've been frustrated during the past week over the poor performance of the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE's&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Live!&lt;/span&gt; website, the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Standard-Examiner&lt;/span&gt; provides this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;• &lt;a href="http://www.standard.net/topics/business/2009/11/09/hardware-failure-caused-standardnet-web-site-outage" target="_blank"&gt;Hardware failure caused StandardNet Web site outage&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;As the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SE&lt;/span&gt; editors remarked in connection with item #2 above, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"we hope this isn't a trend."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's it for now gentle readers, such as it is.  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