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We also talk about poetry as a way of confronting suffering—and even finding joy.
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<p>Pulitzer Prize–winning poet <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Schultz"><strong>Philip Schultz</strong> </a>joins Writer’s Voice to discuss his new collection, <strong><em><a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324123828" data-type="link" data-id="https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324123828">Enormous Morning</a></em></strong>. Writing from the vantage point of his 80th year, Schultz reflects on aging, memory, family, regret—and the possibility of transcendence.</p>



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<p>“Age has… given me a kind of love of my life and the lives of others that I always didn’t have.”</p>
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<p>In this conversation, Schultz explores how perspective changes over time, how poetry can transform suffering into insight, and why creativity itself can be a source of resilience and even joy. He also reads several poems from the collection, including “Enormous Morning,” “Good News,” and “My Mistakes.”</p>



<p>The conversation moves from the personal to the political, as Schultz reflects on democracy, moral courage, and the ethical questions raised by our current moment.</p>



<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p>Tags: Philip Schultz, Enormous Morning, poetry interview, contemporary poetry, Writer’s Voice podcast, Pulitzer Prize poet, American poets interview.</p>



<p><strong>You Might Also Like: <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2018/04/philip-schultz-luxury-full-interview/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2018/04/philip-schultz-luxury-full-interview/">Philip Schultz, LUXURY,</a></strong> <strong><a href="http://www.writersvoice.net/2010/07/philip-schultz/">Philip Schultz, The Poet &amp; His Dyslexia</a></strong></p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Episode Summary: Philip Schultz</h2>



<p>Philip Schultz is the Pulitzer Prize–winning author of Failure and one of America’s most distinctive contemporary poets. His work has long explored the inner life—its doubts, contradictions, and longings—with a rare mix of emotional honesty, philosophical depth, and, often, surprising humor.</p>



<p>Now, in his new collection, <em>Enormous Morning,</em> Schultz writes from a new vantage point: his 80th year. These poems take on aging, memory, family, and mortality—but also something else: renewal. The possibility of gaining a new, more joyous perspective on life</p>



<p>The book opens with a walk through a cemetery—yet what emerges is not just a meditation on death, but a vivid sense of continuity. The past and present coexist. The living and the dead are in conversation. And throughout the collection, Schultz moves from the particulars of daily life—a movie, a memory, a friendship—into larger questions about meaning, suffering, and what it means to live ethically in a troubled world.</p>



<p>We talk about how age changes perception, how poetry can transform regret into something like forgiveness, and how creativity itself can be a form of resilience—even joy.</p>



<p>We also talk about the political dimension of the book—poems that grapple with democracy, moral courage, and the unsettling forces shaping our current moment. For Schultz, poetry is not an escape from reality—it’s a way of entering it more deeply, asking harder questions.</p>



<p>As he puts it, writing a poem can be a way of confronting even the most difficult truths—and finding, if not answers, then a kind of clarity, or even transcendence.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">About the Poet</h2>



<p>Philip Schultz is the founder and director of the <strong><a href="https://www.writerstudio.com/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writerstudio.com/">Writers Studio i</a></strong>n New York. He is the author of numerous poetry collections, including the Pulitzer Prize–winning <em>Failure,</em> as well as <em>The God of Loneliness: Selected and New Poems</em>. </p>



<p>His work often explores personal history, family, and Jewish and immigrant experience, including his father’s struggles, which he addressed with striking honesty in Failure. He lives in East Hampton, New York, with his wife, sculptor Monica Banks.</p>



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					<description><![CDATA[This week on Writer’s Voice: Julia Cooke on the women who helped invent modern journalism—and why history forgot them. And Ida Turpeinen on extinction, memory, and the stories we fail to tell.]]></description>
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<p>In this episode of Writer’s Voice, <strong><a href="https://www.juliacooke.com/about">Julia Cooke</a></strong> discusses <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374609795/starryandrestless/" data-type="link" data-id="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374609795/starryandrestless/"><strong><em>Starry and Restless</em></strong>,</a> her group biography of Rebecca West, Martha Gellhorn, and Emily “Mickey” Hahn—women journalists whose restless lives and innovative writing helped shape modern literary journalism, even as their contributions were later minimized.</p>



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<p>“Women have been central to voice-driven narrative journalism for at least the last century and a half.”</p>
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<p>Then, <strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iida_Turpeinen">Iida Turpeinen</a> </strong>explores extinction, empire, and the ethics of science in her novel <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/iida-turpeinen/beasts-of-the-sea/9780316585835/?lens=little-brown" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/iida-turpeinen/beasts-of-the-sea/9780316585835/?lens=little-brown"><strong><em>Beasts of the Sea</em></strong>,</a> beginning with the tragic story of the Steller’s sea cow and expanding into a meditation on memory, loss, and the human relationship to the natural world.</p>



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<p>“They had no idea that species can go extinct.”</p>
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<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and </strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p>Tags: women journalists, literary journalism history, Rebecca West, Martha Gellhorn, Emily Hahn, Julia Cooke interview, Beasts of the Sea novel, Iida Turpeinen interview, extinction history, Steller sea cow, women in science history, Writer’s Voice podcast</p>



<p><strong>You Might Also Like:</strong> <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/04/stories-for-survival-eiren-caffall-all-the-water-in-the-word-and-ishion-hutchinson-fugitive-tilts/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/04/stories-for-survival-eiren-caffall-all-the-water-in-the-word-and-ishion-hutchinson-fugitive-tilts/">Eiren Caffall, ALL THE WATER IN THE WORLD</a>, <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2024/12/slippery-beast-ellen-ruppel-shell-on-eels-ecology-and-the-global-wildlife-trade/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2024/12/slippery-beast-ellen-ruppel-shell-on-eels-ecology-and-the-global-wildlife-trade/">Ellen Ruppel, SLIPPERY BEAST</a></p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Segment One: Julia Cooke – Starry and Restless</h2>



<p>Julia Cooke reexamines the legacy of three pioneering women journalists—Rebecca West, Martha Gellhorn, and Emily Hahn—arguing that women were not peripheral but central to the development of literary journalism.</p>



<p>Cooke explores how constraints placed on women—barred from war fronts, dismissed as “sob sisters”—actually pushed them to innovate, expanding the scope of reporting to include domestic life, civilian experience, and overlooked voices. Their work challenged conventional ideas of objectivity, incorporating first-person perspective and a broader understanding of who counts as a subject.</p>



<p>The conversation also traces the tension between ambition and domestic life, the role of restlessness as both personal drive and cultural force, and the ways these writers navigated financial, professional, and social barriers.</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374609795/starryandrestless/">Read An Excerpt</a></strong></p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Segment Two: Iida Turpeinen – Beasts of the Sea</h2>



<p>Iida Turpeinen discusses her novel centered on the Steller’s sea cow, a massive Arctic animal driven to extinction within decades of its discovery in the 18th century.</p>


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<p>The novel begins with a museum skeleton—an entry point into questions of memory, loss, and scientific history. Turpeinen examines how imperial expansion, scientific inquiry, and extraction were deeply intertwined, and how early naturalists lacked even the concept of extinction.</p>



<p>She also introduces overlooked figures like Hilda Olsson, a 19th-century scientific illustrator whose work—once erased—has been rediscovered. Through her story, the novel contrasts modes of seeing: possession versus attention, extraction versus care.</p>



<p>At its heart, Beasts of the Sea is an elegy—and a call to remember the many species lost without notice.</p>



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					<description><![CDATA[What happens when AI takes over medicine—and what can we do to strengthen our own minds?

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<p><strong><em>Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform.</em></strong></p>



<p>On this episode of&nbsp;<em>Writer’s Voice</em>, we talk with novelist <strong><a href="https://www.justinckey.com">Justin C. Key</a></strong> about&nbsp;<em><strong><a href="http://(https://www.justinckey.com/the-hospital-at-the-end-of-the-world">The Hospital at the End of the World</a></strong>,</em>&nbsp;a gripping speculative story that explores the ethical and human stakes of AI in medicine.</p>


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<p>“Technology is best when it’s a tool wielded by humans.”</p>
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<p>Then, memory champion <strong>Nelson Dellis </strong>joins us to talk about&nbsp;<em><strong>Everyday Genius</strong></em>—and how ordinary people can train their minds for sharper memory, deeper focus, and far-reaching intuition.</p>



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<p>“<em>I never had a good memory growing up. It was something that I was inspired to change and learned all about it and really started to work on it about 15 years ago. And my mind has been different ever since.</em>”&nbsp;</p>
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<p>Two conversations that explore what the human mind can do — and what AI never will.</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hospital-End-World-Suspenseful-Dominance/dp/0063290480/ref=asc_df_0063290480?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=80127120446441&amp;hvnetw=s&amp;hvqmt=e&amp;hvbmt=be&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=74056&amp;hvtargid=pla-4583726601322841&amp;psc=1">Read or Listen to A Sample from The Hospital At The End of the World</a></strong></p>



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<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/p/better-than-ai-expanding-the-boundaries">Read The Transcript</a></strong></p>



<p>Tags: AI ethics, AI in medicine, speculative fiction AI, human vs machine intelligence, physician patient relationship, memory techniques, memory palace, cognitive training, intuition, remote viewing, Writer&#8217;s Voice podcast, Nelson Dellis, Justin C. Key,</p>



<p><strong>You Might Also Like:</strong> <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/03/speculative-futures-cary-groner-silvia-park-on-survival-ai-and-the-meaning-of-being-human/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/03/speculative-futures-cary-groner-silvia-park-on-survival-ai-and-the-meaning-of-being-human/">Silvia Park, LUMINOUS</a>, <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/bruce-holsinger-on-ais-moral-dilemmas-and-elizabeth-georges-new-inspector-lynley-mystery/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/bruce-holsinger-on-ais-moral-dilemmas-and-elizabeth-georges-new-inspector-lynley-mystery/">Bruce Holsinger, CULPABILITY</a></p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Segment One:</strong> Justin C. Key</h2>



<p>What happens when artificial intelligence becomes more than a tool—and starts making decisions for us?</p>



<p>In this episode of&nbsp;<em>Writer’s Voice,</em>&nbsp;Justin C. Key’s gripping novel imagines a world where AI controls medicine, exposing the ethical and human stakes of technological dependence.</p>



<p>The Hospital At The End of the World is a speculative novel set in a near-future America where an AI corporation controls not only medicine but society at large. The story follows a young medical student forced to flee New York for a human-centered hospital in New Orleans—the last city resisting AI dominance.</p>



<p>Key explores the tension between machine efficiency and human intuition, the risks of technological dependency, and the political forces shaping how technology is used.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Segment Two: Nelson Dellis</h2>


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<p>What if the reason you forget things has nothing to do with your memory — and everything to do with how you retrieve information? </p>



<p>Nelson Dellis, six-time USA Memory Champion and author of <em><strong>Everyday Genius</strong></em>, joins Writer’s Voice to explain how ordinary people can develop extraordinary mental skills.</p>



<p>Dellis — who grew up with no exceptional memory — began studying memory techniques 15 years ago and transformed his mind entirely. </p>



<p>In this conversation, he breaks down the ancient method of the memory palace, explains why multitasking is a myth built on dopamine, offers practical tricks for anyone who fears numbers, and describes his unexpected encounter with a classified government program that trained psychics to gather Cold War intelligence. </p>



<p>His book, <em>Everyday Genius</em>, covers memory, focus, number sense, creativity, decision-making, and intuition — making the case that every one of us has an inner genius waiting to be developed.</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnINhoHWuVjUDXp7dav5e3A" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnINhoHWuVjUDXp7dav5e3A"><strong>Check Out Nelson Dellis&#8217; YouTube Channel</strong></a></p>



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		<title>Victoria Woodhull’s Radical Life + The Booksellers  Who Defied America’s Most Powerful Censor</title>
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<p>This week on <em>Writer’s Voice</em>, two authors explore fascinating episodes from women’s history—stories of bold individuals who challenged the boundaries of power, speech, and social convention.</p>



<p>Journalist <strong><a href="https://www.edencollinsworth.com/the-improbable-victoria-woodhull/">Eden Collinsworth</a></strong> discusses <em><strong><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-sisters-of-book-row-shelley-noble?variant=43876133404706" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-sisters-of-book-row-shelley-noble?variant=43876133404706">The Improbable Mrs. Woodhull</a></strong></em>, her biography of Victoria Woodhull—an astonishing figure who rose from poverty to become a stockbroker, newspaper publisher, and the first woman to run for President of the United States in 1872.</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow">
<p>“I, like you and most Americans, knew nothing of her.”</p>
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<p>Then novelist <strong><a href="https://shelleynoble.com" data-type="link" data-id="https://shelleynoble.com">Shelley Noble</a></strong> joins us to talk about<strong> <em><a href="https://shelleynoble.com/coming-soon.php">The Sisters of Book Row</a></em></strong>, a historical novel set in 1915 New York during Anthony Comstock’s aggressive crusade against books and information he deemed “obscene.” Noble’s story centers on three sisters running a bookstore in Manhattan’s famous Book Row, where booksellers faced censorship, raids, and the threat of imprisonment.</p>



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<p>“My thing as an author is to find those little niches of people who actually make history that we should know about, but we very often don’t know about.”</p>
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<p>Together, these conversations illuminate forgotten histories about the power of books and the struggle for women’s rights.</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Improbable-Victoria-Woodhull-Suffrage-President/dp/0385549571">Read or Listen to A Sample from The Improbable Victoria Woodhull</a></strong></p>



<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/writersvoice/p/women-who-challenged-power-victoria?r=183be&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=true"><strong>Read The Transcript</strong>&nbsp;<strong>on Substack</strong></a></p>



<p>Tags: Victoria Woodhull, Eden Collinsworth, Shelley Noble, The Improbable Mrs. Woodhull, The Sisters of Book Row, Writer’s Voice podcast, women&#8217;s history, </p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Segment One: Victoria Woodhull: Radical Reformer – Eden Collinsworth</strong></h2>



<p>Victoria Woodhull was one of the most remarkable and controversial figures of the nineteenth century. Born into poverty with little formal education, she reinvented herself repeatedly—first as a spiritualist, then as a stockbroker on Wall Street, a newspaper publisher, and eventually the first woman to run for President of the United States.</p>



<p>Journalist Eden Collinsworth first encountered Woodhull’s story in an unlikely place: the archives of the British Museum. There she discovered the transcripts of a lawsuit Woodhull brought against the museum—a discovery that opened the door to a life story filled with audacity, ambition, and reinvention.</p>



<p>In this conversation, Collinsworth explores Woodhull’s complex legacy. Woodhull was a fierce advocate for women’s rights, labor reform, and what she called “free love,” arguing that women should have control over their own bodies and marriages. Her ideas shocked Victorian society and earned her both devoted supporters and bitter enemies.</p>



<p>Woodhull’s run for the presidency in 1872 was largely symbolic—women could not even vote at the time—but it made her a national sensation. Her life intersected with many of the major social movements of her era, from suffrage to spiritualism to the labor movement.</p>



<p>Collinsworth’s biography brings new attention to this extraordinary figure and examines why Woodhull’s story has largely been forgotten despite the boldness of her achievements.</p>


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<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Segment Two</strong>: <strong>The Sisters of Book Row – Shelley Noble</strong></h2>



<p>In her novel <em>The Sisters of Book Row</em>, Shelley Noble recreates a vanished literary world: Manhattan’s famous Book Row, a stretch of Fourth Avenue that once housed dozens of rare and secondhand bookstores.</p>



<p>The story takes place in 1915, when Anthony Comstock’s anti-obscenity crusade cast a long shadow over American publishing. Comstock, a powerful moral reformer and postal inspector, used federal law to seize and destroy books, artworks, and even information about women’s health.</p>



<p>Noble’s novel follows three sisters who inherit their father’s bookstore and struggle to keep the shop alive amid increasing censorship and social pressure. As the sisters navigate their own ambitions and secrets, they become entangled in the broader struggle over knowledge, books, and freedom of expression.</p>



<p>Drawing on the rich history of Book Row and the world of early twentieth-century bookselling, Noble portrays a vibrant community of merchants, collectors, and readers who believed deeply in the cultural importance of books.</p>



<p>The novel also touches on the underground circulation of information about women’s health during the era of the Comstock laws, connecting the story of censorship with the emerging fight for reproductive rights.</p>



<p>Through the lives of ordinary people—booksellers, printers, activists—<em>The Sisters of Book Row</em> shows how cultural change often begins with individuals quietly resisting authority.<br></p>
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<p>In this episode of <em>Writer’s Voice</em>, Francesca Rheannon speaks with bestselling author <strong><a href="http://www.jungchang.net/biography" data-type="link" data-id="http://www.jungchang.net/biography">Jung Chang</a></strong> about her memoir <em><strong><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/fly-wild-swans-jung-chang?variant=43823064842274" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/fly-wild-swans-jung-chang?variant=43823064842274">Fly, Wild Swans: My Mother, Myself, and China</a></strong></em>, the long-awaited sequel to her landmark book <em>Wild Swans</em>.</p>



<p>Chang recounts how her parents — once devoted Communists — became disillusioned by famine, repression, and the violence of the Cultural Revolution. Their refusal to betray their beliefs shaped her own commitment to truth and integrity.</p>



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<p>She also reflects on her extraordinary journey from Mao’s isolated China to becoming one of the first Chinese students to study in Britain, and how that experience transformed her thinking.</p>



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<p>“I must only follow the evidence and arrive at conclusions from the evidence gathered.” &nbsp;</p>
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<p>Finally, Chang discusses the resurgence of authoritarianism under Xi Jinping and why she still believes China’s people ultimately desire freedom.</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/fly-wild-swans-jung-chang?variant=43823064842274" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/fly-wild-swans-jung-chang?variant=43823064842274">Read A Sample from <em>Fly, Wild Swans</em></a></strong> </p>



<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/p/jung-chang-on-courage-truth-and-chinas"><strong>Read The Transcript</strong> <strong>on Substack</strong></a></p>



<p>Tags: Jung Chang interview, Fly Wild Swans, Wild Swans author,  Chinese history memoir, China under Xi Jinping, authoritarianism China, Writer’s Voice podcast</p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Segment: Jung Chang — Fly, Wild Swans</strong></h2>



<p>After Jung Chang wrote her first memoir, Wild Swans, she went on to write biographies of Mao Tse Tung and the last Empress of China.&nbsp;</p>



<p>Now, 25 years after her first book, Chang returns with <em>Fly, Wild Swans: My Mother, Myself, and China</em>, continuing the story after she became one of the first Chinese students allowed to leave Communist China and study in the West.</p>



<p>Jung Chang recounts how her parents — once devoted Communists — became disillusioned by famine, repression, and the violence of the Cultural Revolution. She describes how her father’s protest against Mao’s policies led to brutal punishment — and how her mother refused to denounce him despite immense pressure. Their refusal to betray their beliefs shaped her own commitment to truth and integrity.</p>



<p>She also reflects on her extraordinary journey from Mao’s isolated China to becoming one of the first Chinese students to study in Britain, and how that experience transformed her thinking.</p>



<p>Finally, Chang tells us about the resurgence of authoritarianism under Xi Jinping and why she still believes China’s people ultimately want to be free.</p>



<p>In addition to her other books, Jung Chang is the author of <em>Big Sister, Little Sister, Red Sister. </em></p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Key Topics</strong></h3>



<p>• Jung Chang’s memoir <em>Fly, Wild Swans</em></p>



<p>• The legacy of <em>Wild Swans</em></p>



<p>• Mao’s China and the Cultural Revolution</p>



<p>• Political courage and moral integrity</p>



<p>• The Great Chinese Famine</p>



<p>• Intellectual freedom and scholarship</p>



<p>• China under Xi Jinping</p>



<p>• Resistance to authoritarianism</p>
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<p>In this episode of <em>Writer’s Voice</em>, Francesca Rheannon speaks with political philosopher <strong><a href="https://www.lse.ac.uk/people/lea-ypi">Lea Ypi</a></strong> about <strong><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374614096/indignity/"><em>Indignity: A Life Reimagined</em>,</a></strong> a genre-blending work of memoir, history, and philosophical inquiry that explores dignity under authoritarian regimes.</p>



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<p>“I think of [dignity] as a property that is really what makes us human.” &#8212; Lea Ypi</p>
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<p>Then novelist<strong><a href="https://www.eleanorshearer.com"> Eleanor Shearer </a></strong>discusses <em><strong><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/713327/fireflies-in-winter-by-eleanor-shearer/">Fireflies in Winter,</a></strong></em> a lyrical historical novel following Jamaican Maroons exiled to Nova Scotia after the Second Maroon War. Through the story of Cora, Agnes, and Thursday, Shearer examines freedom, queer love, grief, and the moral tension between survival and solidarity.</p>


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<p>“You were only ever a kind of set of stolen papers away… from having your freedom snatched from you.” &#8212; Eleanor Shearer</p>
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<p>Together, these conversations probe enduring questions:</p>



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<li>What is dignity?</li>



<li>What does it mean to be free inside systems designed to deny freedom?</li>



<li>How do we maintain moral agency when our survival is at stake?</li>
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<p>Tags: Lea Ypi interview, Indignity book, Eleanor Shearer interview, Fireflies in Winter novel, Jamaican Maroons history, historical fiction about slavery, queer historical fiction, Writer’s Voice podcast.</p>



<p>You may also like: <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2024/09/jacob-mikanowski-goodbye-eastern-europe-michael-lerner-remembered/">Jacob Mikanowski, GOODBYE EASTERN EUROPE</a>, <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2019/03/damaris-hill-a-bound-woman-stephen-nash-grand-canyon/">DaMaris Hill, A Bound Woman Is A Dangerous Thing</a></p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Segment One: Lea Ypi</h2>



<p>A haunting honeymoon photograph of her grandmother — posted online by a stranger and met with accusations and insults — launches Lea Ypi into a philosophical and archival investigation.</p>



<p>Ypi’s grandmother lived through the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, fascism, communism, and neoliberal capitalism. The book asks: What does it cost to defend dignity when systems of power are dedicated to erase it?</p>



<p>Ypi explores:</p>



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<li>The archive as an instrument of power</li>



<li>Communist surveillance and modern surveillance capitalism</li>



<li>Nationalism, fascism, and historical repetition</li>



<li>The responsibility of art to “rescue dignity”</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374614096/indignity/">Read An Excerpt</a></strong></p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Segment Two: Eleanor Shearer</h2>



<p>Shearer brings to life the little-known history of Jamaican Maroons exiled to Nova Scotia in the 1790s.</p>



<p>Her protagonist Cora has never been enslaved — yet her freedom is deeply precarious. In Nova Scotia, she encounters Agnes, a formerly enslaved woman surviving in the forest, and Thursday, an indentured laborer whose freedom hangs by a thread.</p>



<p>Shearer explores:</p>



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<li>The ambiguity between legal freedom and lived freedom</li>



<li>Indentureship and stolen contracts</li>



<li>Queer love as resistance</li>



<li>The moral collision between survival and solidarity</li>



<li>Grief as a shaping force</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/713327/fireflies-in-winter-by-eleanor-shearer/">Read or Listen to A Sample</a></strong></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Resistance Is the Story</strong></h3>



<p>When we tell the history of slavery, too often we tell it as a story of suffering relieved by benevolent reformers. But what if resistance — not submission — was the central thread all along?</p>


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<p>This week on <em>Writer’s Voice</em>, we begin with historian <strong><a href="https://www.balliol.ox.ac.uk/dr-sudhir-hazareesingh" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.balliol.ox.ac.uk/dr-sudhir-hazareesingh">Sudhir Hazareesingh</a></strong>, whose groundbreaking book <em><strong><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374611088/daringtobefree/" data-type="link" data-id="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374611088/daringtobefree/">Daring to Be Free</a></strong></em> reframes the history of Atlantic slavery as a history of rebellion: from African defense militias and shipboard revolts to maroon communities and the Haitian Revolution. He restores enslaved women and men to the center of their own liberation struggles — not as passive victims, but as strategists, spiritual leaders, and revolutionaries.</p>



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<p>“From the very moment slave raiding parties are sent out… people begin to resist.” — Sudhir Hazareesingh</p>
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<p>Then we <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2012/12/sojourner-truth-ma-humanities/">revisit my 2012 conversation</a> with novelist <strong>Jacqueline Sheehan</strong> about <strong><em>The Comet’s Tale</em>,</strong> her powerful work of historical fiction about Sojourner Truth. Through Truth’s childhood in bondage, her spiritual awakening, and her emergence as a fearless abolitionist and women’s rights advocate, we explore resilience, moral courage, and the making of a revolutionary life.</p>



<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and </strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p>Tags: Sudhir Hazareesingh, Daring to Be Free, Atlantic slavery, slave resistance, Haitian Revolution, Solitude of Guadeloupe, maroon communities, Sojourner Truth, Jacqueline Sheehan, The Comet’s Tale, Abolition movement, Black history, Writers Voice podcast,</p>



<p>You May Also Like: <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/02/black-history-month-aaron-robertson-the-black-utopians-also-cory-doctorow-picks-and-shovels/">Aaron Robertson, THE BLACK UTOPIANS</a>, <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/ben-passmore-on-black-resistance-david-baron-on-the-martian-craze/">Ben Passmore on Black Resistance</a></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Segment One</strong>: <strong>Sudhir Hazareesingh</strong></h3>



<p>There are many histories of the Atlantic slave trade. Few center the enslaved as agents of their own freedom.</p>



<p>In <em>Daring to Be Free</em>, Sudhir Hazareesingh challenges the myth that resistance was rare or exceptional. Instead, he shows that resistance was woven into the fabric of slavery from the very beginning.</p>



<p><strong>Solitude and the Erased Women of Resistance</strong></p>



<p>Hazareesingh opens with the story of Solitude of Guadeloupe — a freedom fighter who resisted Napoleon’s 1802 attempt to reinstate slavery and was executed while remaining defiant . Her story, erased for generations, symbolizes what he calls a “hidden history” of resistance.</p>



<p>For too long, he argues, histories focused on male leaders and major revolutions, especially Haiti. But enslaved resistance was constant — and women were central actors: strategists, healers, organizers, spiritual leaders .</p>



<p><strong>Resistance Began in Africa</strong></p>



<p>Hazareesingh emphasizes that rebellion did not begin in the Americas. It began in Africa itself.</p>



<p>From the moment slave raiders entered African villages, communities organized militias, fought capture, resisted transport, and even planned revolts while confined on the coast .</p>



<p>Shipboard insurrections were often planned before captives even boarded the ships. Resistance was integral to the system — not an exception to it.</p>



<p><strong>Spiritual Traditions as Sources of Power</strong></p>



<p>African religious traditions — including Obeah and Islam — fortified resistance movements . These spiritual systems preserved identity, offered psychological protection, and helped organize rebellion.</p>



<p>Under conditions of near-total domination, enslaved people carved out autonomous interior worlds — sustaining languages, faiths, and networks of solidarity .</p>



<p><strong>Women as Network Builders</strong></p>



<p>Women, often working inside plantation households, gathered intelligence and helped coordinate revolts . They maintained kinship networks that countered what one historian called slavery’s “social death.”</p>



<p>Hazareesingh discovered instead a story of social persistence: communities forming bonds across plantations, across ethnic lines, and even across racial boundaries.</p>



<p><strong>Palmares and Cross-Boundary Alliances</strong></p>



<p>One astonishing example: Palmares in 17th-century Brazil — a vast maroon society of thousands that developed political systems, agriculture, trade, and military defenses .</p>



<p>Palmares blended African and Indigenous military traditions and even attracted poor whites seeking more humane community .</p>



<p>Resistance was multiracial, transnational, and sustained.</p>



<p><strong>Haiti: Rank-and-File Revolution</strong></p>



<p>While Hazareesingh has written on Toussaint L’Ouverture, in this book he emphasizes rank-and-file insurgents .</p>



<p>The Haitian Revolution became a beacon of Black sovereignty — and a terror to slaveholding powers . News of the uprising spread rapidly via sailors and refugee networks .</p>



<p>Yet Haiti paid a devastating price: punitive indemnities imposed by France in 1825, U.S. intervention under Woodrow Wilson, and ongoing destabilization .</p>



<p><strong>The Enslaved as the True Abolitionists</strong></p>



<p>Hazareesingh challenges the narrative that white reformers abolished slavery. Most abolitionists advocated gradualism. The enslaved demanded — and fought for — immediate freedom .</p>



<p>Their revolts and persistent pressure forced political change.</p>



<p><strong>Honoring Our Debts</strong></p>



<p>In concluding, Hazareesingh calls for a “debt of memory” — telling the story truthfully — and for serious engagement with material reparations .</p>



<p>And he offers a lesson for today: unity, resilience, and moral courage in the face of authoritarianism .</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374611088/daringtobefree/">Read An Excerpt</a></strong></p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Segment Two: Jacqueline Sheehan</strong></h3>



<p><strong>The Comet’s Tale — A Novel of Sojourner Truth</strong></p>



<p>In our encore conversation from 2012, novelist Jacqueline Sheehan explores the inner life of Sojourner Truth.</p>



<p><strong>Isabella’s Childhood in Bondage</strong></p>



<p>Born Isabella Baumfree in Dutch New York, Sojourner Truth’s first language was Dutch .</p>



<p>Sheehan spent five years researching Truth’s early life, drawing from the dictated narrative recorded by Olive Gilbert in Massachusetts .</p>



<p>Her novel focuses intensely on childhood — the psychological resilience required to survive being treated as property and sold away from family .</p>



<p><strong>The Power of Story</strong></p>



<p>The title <em>The Comet’s Tale</em> comes from a fictionalized birth story told by Isabella’s mother — illustrating how oral tradition helped enslaved parents maintain connection with children sold away .</p>



<p>Storytelling becomes an act of survival.</p>



<p><strong>Spiritual Seeking and Dangerous Faith</strong></p>



<p>After gaining freedom, Isabella moved to New York City during a period of religious ferment .</p>



<p>She became involved in the cult of Matthias — a charismatic religious leader who manipulated followers and dictated their lives .</p>



<p>Later, after a profound spiritual epiphany, she renamed herself Sojourner Truth — believing God had called her to preach .</p>



<p>Though illiterate, she became a mesmerizing orator; newspaper accounts described the hair standing on listeners’ necks .</p>



<p><strong>Florence, Massachusetts: Political Awakening</strong></p>



<p>Truth eventually found community at the Northampton Association for Education and Industry — a utopian, abolitionist community based on equality of labor and one person, one vote .</p>



<p>There she interacted with Frederick Douglass and David Ruggles, and blended her spirituality with abolitionism and women’s rights activism .</p>



<p>She later supported Black soldiers during the Civil War and met Abraham Lincoln .</p>



<p><strong>Resilience as Choice</strong></p>



<p>Sheehan emphasizes Truth’s moral agency: despite enduring profound injustice, she chose not to live in hatred .</p>



<p>Her life illustrates that even under brutal conditions, individuals retain the capacity for courageous choice.</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Episode Summary</h3>



<p>Something feels wrong with our attention — and with reality itself.</p>



<p>In <em><strong>Attensity! A Manifesto of the Attention Liberation Movement</strong></em>, editors <strong>D. Graham Burnett, Alyssa Loh, and Peter Schmidt</strong> argue that this crisis is not about individual willpower. It’s about a multi-trillion-dollar industry built to monetize human attention.</p>



<p>They call it “<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/jan/18/how-can-we-defend-ourselves-from-the-new-plague-of-human-fracking">human fracking</a>.”</p>


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<p>“These phones are the final node in a… $7 to $14 trillion industry that&#8217;s all about maximizing the amount of time that we engage with these devices… capturing our attention and turning it into money. And we call that ‘human fracking.’” &#8212; Peter Schmidt</p>
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<p>In this conversation, we explore how the commodification of attention reshapes nearly every aspect of our lives. </p>



<p>We talk about attention as relational and ethical — not just measurable. And we examine why reclaiming attention must be a collective political movement, not a private detox.</p>



<p>Then, we listen to an excerpt from our 2025 <strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/cory-doctorow-on-big-techs-enshittification-bill-mckibben-on-solar-hope-for-the-planet/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/cory-doctorow-on-big-techs-enshittification-bill-mckibben-on-solar-hope-for-the-planet/">conversation with Cory Doctorow about his book <em>Enshittifcation</em></a>.</strong></p>



<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p>Tags:&nbsp;Attention Liberation Movement, Attensity book, D. Graham Burnett, Peter Schmidt, Alyssa Loh, human fracking, attention economy, digital capitalism, social media harm, attention activism, Cory Doctorow enshittification, attention sanctuaries, Writers Voice podcast</p>



<p>You may also like: <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/cory-doctorow-on-big-techs-enshittification-bill-mckibben-on-solar-hope-for-the-planet/">Cory Doctorow, Enshittification</a>,<a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/02/black-history-month-aaron-robertson-the-black-utopians-also-cory-doctorow-picks-and-shovels/"> Cory Doctorow, Picks and Shovels</a></p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Segment Summary</h2>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">The Crisis of Attention</h3>



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<li>Why attention is “the key question of our moment”</li>



<li>The metaphor of “human fracking”</li>



<li>The internal environmental crisis of the mind</li>
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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Attention as World-Making</h3>



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<li>Attention as relational and ethical</li>



<li>Simone Weil and the spiritual dimensions of attention</li>



<li>How degraded attention makes reality feel unreal</li>
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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Movement, Not Detox</h3>



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<li>Converting private shame into collective anger</li>



<li>Why willpower isn’t enough</li>



<li>Parallels to environmental and civil rights movements</li>
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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Sanctuaries of Attention</h3>



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<li>Study, organizing, sanctuary</li>



<li>Libraries, classrooms, coffee shops, Sabbath</li>



<li>Reimagining civic institutions as attention infrastructure</li>
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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">A Positive Vision</h3>



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<li>Designing technologies for human flourishing</li>



<li>What a liberated attentional world might feel like for the next generation</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/782387/attensity-by-the-friends-of-attention">Listen to or Read a Sample from the book</a></strong></p>



<h5 class="wp-block-heading has-text-align-center">Read the <a href="https://anthonywilsonpoetry.com/2013/02/05/lifesaving-poems-galway-kinnells-saint-francis-and-the-sow/ Saint Francis and the Sow">Poem: St. Francis and the Sow</a></h5>



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<p>Historian <strong>Andrew Burstein</strong> joins us to talk about his biography, <em><strong>Being Thomas Jefferson</strong>. </em>It’s an intimate portrait that looks beyond the marble statue and into the emotional life of one of America’s most influential founders.</p>



<p>Burstein explores Jefferson as a political moralist, a lyrical writer, and as someone who imagined democracy while profiting from slavery, who preached equality while exercising enormous power over others, and as someone who believed passionately in the nation’s destiny while fearing the forces of centralized power that could tear it apart.</p>


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<p>“The Jefferson that I write about in this book is a political moralist who converts knowledge into feeling.” &#8212; Andrew Burstein </p>
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<p>We’ll talk about Jefferson’s psychological world, his relationship with Sally Hemings, his battles with Federalism, and how his inner life helped shape our nation and the ideals we’re struggling to protect today.</p>



<p>Then, we listen to an excerpt from <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2014/10/danielle-allen-declaration-katy-simpson-smith-story-land-sea/">our 2014 conversation with </a><strong>Danielle Allen</strong> about her book <strong><a href="http://www.powells.com/biblio/9780871406903">Our Declaration, A Reading Of The Declaration of Independence In Defense of Equality</a></strong>.</p>



<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p>Tags: Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Burstein, Being Thomas Jefferson, Sally Hemings, slavery, Founding Fathers, Federalism, Jeffersonian democracy, American Revolution, Writer’s Voice, Danielle Allen, Declaration of Independence,</p>



<p><strong>You Might Also Like:</strong> <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2014/10/danielle-allen-declaration-katy-simpson-smith-story-land-sea/">Danielle Allen, OUR DECLARATION</a>, <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2012/12/sojourner-truth-ma-humanities/">Sojourner Truth, Her Story &amp; Meaning</a>,</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/p/being-thomas-jefferson-power-democracy">Read the Transcript</a></strong></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Andrew Burstein</h3>



<p>Francesca Rheannon speaks with historian Andrew Burstein about <em>Being Thomas Jefferson</em>, a biography that examines Jefferson not just as a political figure, but as an emotional and psychological one.</p>



<p>Burstein describes Jefferson as “a political moralist who converts knowledge into feeling,” explaining how Jefferson’s seductive, lyrical writing helped forge America’s moral identity while masking deep personal fears and contradictions</p>



<p>The conversation explores <strong>Jefferson’s inner life, his need for control, his relationship with Sally Hemings, his rationalizations around slavery, and his enduring influence on American democracy.</strong> Burstein also traces Jefferson’s conflict with Federalism, his vision of an agrarian republic, and his belief that “the whole art of government is the art of being honest.”</p>



<p>It&#8217;s a candid discussion about legacy, race, power, self-deception, and what Jefferson’s emotional world still reveals about the United States today.</p>



<p><strong>Andrew Burstein</strong> recently retired as Professor of History at Louisiana State University. In addition to <em>Being Thomas Jefferson</em>, He is the author of <em>The Passions of Andrew Jackson,</em> <em>Jefferson&#8217;s Secrets</em>, and several other books on early American politics and culture.</p>



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<p>In this episode of <em>Writer’s Voice</em>, Francesca Rheannon speaks with biographer <strong>Robert M. Dowling</strong> about his biography, <strong><em>Coyote: The Dramatic Lives of Sam Shepard</em>.</strong> </p>



<p>Dowling explores Shepard’s groundbreaking theatrical innovations, his jazz-inspired rhythms, and his shamanistic approach to performance — along with the deep fear that powered his work. </p>



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<p>“He feared the estrangement — our estrangement from the earth, from ourselves, from reality even.” &#8212; Robert Dowling</p>
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<p>Another writer who loved the deserts of California, as Sam Shepard did, was the poet <strong>Forrest Gander</strong>. <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/04/poetry-of-place-and-freedom-with-forrest-gander-and-damaris-hill/">We re-air a conversation with him from April of 2025</a> about his book-length poem, <strong><em>Mojave Ghost</em></strong>. </p>



<p>And finally, Francesca reads a powerful ode written by former US Poet Laureate Amanda Gorman to Renee Nicole Good, <strong><a href="https://x.com/TheAmandaGorman/status/2009432288661000193?lang=en" data-type="link" data-id="https://x.com/TheAmandaGorman/status/2009432288661000193?lang=en">&#8220;<em>For Renee Nicole Good Killed by I.C.E. on January 7, 2026</em>.&#8221;</a></strong></p>



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<p>Tags: Sam Shepard biography, Robert M. Dowling, <em>Coyote</em>, American playwrights, Forrest Gander, Renée Nicole Good, Amanda Gorman, Writer’s Voice podcast</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/writersvoice/p/coyote-robert-m-dowling-on-sam-shepard?r=183be&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=true" data-type="link" data-id="https://open.substack.com/pub/writersvoice/p/coyote-robert-m-dowling-on-sam-shepard?r=183be&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=true">Read the Transcript</a></strong></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Robert M. Dowling</strong></h3>



<p>In our conversation about <em>Coyote</em>, Robert M. Dowling traces Sam Shepard’s evolution from “punk rock cowboy playwright” to cultural visionary, explaining how Shepard rejected realism to project inner turmoil directly onto the stage. </p>



<p>Dowling discusses Shepard’s use of humor as a survival mechanism, his musical sense of theater rooted in jazz and percussion, and his lifelong struggle with fear — shaped by a violent father and mirrored in what Shepard saw as America’s own self-loathing. </p>



<p>The episode also examines Shepard’s ideas about masculinity, political polarization, and alienation, before closing with a moving account of his final months and relentless devotion to writing.</p>



<p><strong>Robert M. Dowling</strong> is s professor of English at Central Connecticut State University. In addition to <em>Coyote</em>, He is the author of the biography, <em>Eugene O’Neill: A Life in Four Acts</em>.</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Coyote/Robert-M-Dowling/9781501195730" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Coyote/Robert-M-Dowling/9781501195730">Listen to or Read a Sample from Coyote</a></strong></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nell Bernstein tells us about her book In Our Future We Are Free. It traces the grassroots movement that helped dismantle youth prisons across the United States. Then, Tamar Adler talks about her book Feast On Your Life, a month-by-month meditation on cooking, gratitude, and finding meaning in the everyday.]]></description>
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<p>In this episode of <em>Writer’s Voice</em>, journalist <strong><a href="http://www.nellbernstein.com" data-type="link" data-id="http://www.nellbernstein.com">Nell Bernstein</a></strong> examines the decades-long movement to end youth incarceration in the United States, drawing on her book <a href="https://thenewpress.org/books/9781620979921/"><em><strong>In Our Future We Are Free</strong></em>.</a> Bernstein traces how incarcerated young people, their parents, lawyers, and organizers pierced the invisibility of youth prisons and achieved a historic 75% reduction in youth incarceration nationwide.</p>



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<p>In the second segment, chef and writer <a href="https://www.tamareadler.com/about-tamar"><strong>Tamar Adler</strong> </a>discusses <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Feast-on-Your-Life/Tamar-Adler/9781668078020" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Feast-on-Your-Life/Tamar-Adler/9781668078020"><em><strong>Feast On Your Life</strong></em>,</a> a deeply personal calendar-based book that explores how cooking, leftovers, sobriety, ritual, and attention can transform the ordinary into something sustaining—even during periods of despair.</p>



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<p>“The bean broth wouldn’t let me be.” &#8212; Tamar Adler</p>
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<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p><strong>Key Words:</strong> youth incarceration, prison abolition, juvenile justice reform, Nell Bernstein, In Our Future We Are Free, Tamar Adler, Feast On Your Life, sustainability, leftovers, </p>



<p><strong>You Might Also Like:</strong> <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2014/08/nell-bernstein-burning-down-the-house-poet-kathy-engel/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2014/08/nell-bernstein-burning-down-the-house-poet-kathy-engel/">Nell Bernstein, BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE</a>, <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2016/11/katherine-harvey-marge-bruchac-food-philosophe/">Katherine Harvey, The Bare Bones Broth Cookbook</a></p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/p/nell-bernstein-on-ending-youth-prison" data-type="link" data-id="https://writersvoice.substack.com/p/nell-bernstein-on-ending-youth-prison">Read the Transcript on Substack</a></strong></p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Segment One: Nell Bernstein</strong></h2>



<p>Bernstein reflects on the evolution of her reporting from <em>Burning Down the House</em> to <em>In Our Future We Are Free</em>, documenting how youth prisons—institutions she describes as abusive by design—have been challenged and dismantled through organizing led by incarcerated young people and their families.</p>



<p>She explains why youth incarceration is not rehabilitative but criminogenic, how racialized fear narratives like the “super predator” myth enabled abuse, and why abolition—not cosmetic reform—is necessary. Bernstein also draws connections to present-day immigration detention and reflects on what this movement teaches us about sustained social change under authoritarian conditions.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Segment Two: Tamar Adler</h2>



<p><strong>Segment Two Summary: Tamar Adler</strong></p>



<p>Adler describes writing <em>Feast On Your Life</em> during a period of depression, using daily attention to food and cooking as a way to heal. Organized month-by-month, the book reflects on sobriety, leftovers, seasonal abundance, restraint, imagination, ritual, and gratitude.</p>



<p>She discusses cooking “as if people mattered,” the ethical and ecological connections embedded in everyday meals, and how small rituals—packing lunches, saving bean broth, sharing fruit—create meaning and resilience. Drawing on Ursula K. Le Guin’s carrier bag theory, Adler frames her work as a quiet, gathering-oriented alternative to spectacle-driven narratives.</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Feast-on-Your-Life/Tamar-Adler/9781668078020">Read An Excerpt</a></strong></p>



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					<description><![CDATA[Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform. Today we explore what it really means to share the planet with other forms of life. We’ll talk with writer Bridget Lyons about her acclaimed book, Entwined: Dispatches from the Intersection of Species, a collection of essays that invites us to see animals, plants, &#8230; <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2026/01/entwined-lives-bridget-lyons-on-the-intersection-of-species-with-carl-safina-on-alfie-and-me/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Entwined Lives: Bridget Lyons on the Intersection of Species, with Carl Safina on Alfie and Me</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p><strong>Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform.</strong></p>



<p>Today we explore what it really means to share the planet with other forms of life. We’ll talk with writer <strong><a href="https://bridgetalyons.weebly.com">Bridget Lyons</a> </strong>about her acclaimed book, <em><strong><a href="https://www.tamupress.com/book/9781648432873/entwined/">Entwined: Dispatches from the Intersection of Species</a></strong></em>, a collection of essays that invites us to see animals, plants, and even ourselves in a radically more connected way.</p>


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<p>“<em>Part of the reason I wrote this book was to encourage people, inspire people to just go outside and look around and see who else is living around you.</em>” &#8212; Bridget Lyons</p>
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<p>And then we’ll hear an excerpt from <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2023/11/carl-safina-alfie-and-me-charlotte-dennett-follow-the-pipelines/">our conversation with ecologist and author <strong>Carl Safina</strong></a> about his book <em><strong>Alfie and Me</strong></em>, the extraordinary story of a baby owl that helped him rethink what animals know — and what humans believe.&nbsp;</p>



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<p>“<em>People have often said humans are the only logical animals, but I think that&#8217;s almost completely backward. We&#8217;re really the only illogical animals.</em>” &#8212; Carl Safina</p>
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<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p><strong>Key Words:</strong>&nbsp;Bridget Lyons, <em>Entwined</em>, Carl Safina, <em>Alfie and Me</em>, Writers Voice podcast, animal intelligence, anthropomorphism, biodiversity, environmental ethics, sea stars, interspecies relationships</p>



<p><strong>You Might Also Like:</strong> <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/the-wisdom-of-the-wild-adam-nicolson-on-bird-school-isabella-tree-on-rewilding/">Adam Nicholson on BIRD SCHOOL</a>, <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2019/12/richard-louv-our-wild-calling-carl-safina-beyond-words/">Richard Louv, OUR WILD CALLING &amp; Carl Safina, BEYOND WORDS</a></p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/p/entwined-lives-bridget-lyons-on-the" data-type="link" data-id="https://writersvoice.substack.com/p/entwined-lives-bridget-lyons-on-the">Read the Transcript on Substack</a></strong></p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Segment One — Bridget Lyons on <em>Entwined</em></strong></h2>



<p>Bridget Lyons describes how her essays begin with encounters with other species — kelp, whales, sea stars, fireweed, octopuses — and expand into questions about value, empathy, humility, and how humans might live differently on the planet.</p>



<p>She explains that real connection begins with paying attention:</p>



<p>“<em>Part of the reason I wrote this book was to encourage people, inspire people to just go outside and look around and see who else is living around you.</em>”</p>



<p>Lyons argues that wonder leads to empathy and responsibility:</p>



<p>“<em>As you become more connected to them, you feel more empathy for their life situation and what&#8217;s going on with them.</em>”</p>



<p>One of the book’s core themes is rethinking value — not just in economic terms, but in terms of being:</p>



<p>“<em>Can I, as a person, learn to value this creature for just being who it is, rather than for how it serves me, how it bothers me, etc.</em>”</p>



<p>Lyons also speaks about humility in the face of ecological complexity:</p>



<p>“<em>We all need a hefty, hefty dose of humility.</em>”</p>



<p>And about how curiosity builds respect across species:</p>



<p>“<em>The more you learn, or the more you learn that you don&#8217;t know, or the more that you marvel at something that another creature is doing, the more I think you&#8217;re creating a bridge.</em>”</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Segment Two — Carl Safina on <em>Alfie and Me</em> (archival excerpt)</strong></h2>



<p>Carl Safina tells the story of raising a baby screech owl named Alfie and what that relationship revealed about how animals experience the world — and how humans misunderstand it.</p>



<p>Safina challenges the idea that humans are uniquely rational:</p>



<p>“<em>People have often said humans are the only logical animals, but I think that&#8217;s almost completely backward. We&#8217;re really the only illogical animals.</em>”</p>



<p>He explains how human beliefs often override evidence:</p>



<p>“<em>We&#8217;re the only ones who carry on through the world based on our beliefs rather than on evidence about how the world is and what the world around us is.</em>”</p>



<p>Safina describes why freedom matters even when safety is available:</p>



<p>“<em>That is not life. It&#8217;s pure safety, but there&#8217;s no shot at being part of the world or part of the future.</em>”</p>



<p>And he reflects on what it means to witness another being’s full life unfold:</p>



<p>“<em>I got to know something about these birds, and then I started to ask myself, well, why are we so blind to all of this?</em>”</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Key Topics</h3>



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<li>The “intersection of species”</li>



<li>Anthropomorphism and connection</li>



<li>Wonder, humility, and ecological awareness</li>



<li>How humans assign value</li>



<li>Extinction and regeneration</li>



<li>Animal intelligence and culture</li>



<li>What owls — and other animals — reveal about how the world works</li>
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<p><strong>Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform.</strong></p>



<p>Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist <strong><a href="https://ericlichtblau.com/about">Eric Lichtblau</a></strong> joins Writer’s Voice to discuss his new book, <strong><em><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/eric-lichtblau/american-reich/9780316564717/?lens=little-brown">American Reich</a></em></strong>, a gripping investigation that begins with the murder of Blaze Bernstein in Orange County and expands into a sweeping analysis of white nationalism in 21st-century America.</p>


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<p><em>“We’ve seen an enormous surge in hate crimes across the board… and this is horribly symptomatic of the rise of the neo-Nazis in the 21st century.”</em> &#8212; Eric Lichtblau</p>



<p>Lichtblau traces how online extremism, political normalization of hate, and leaderless neo-Nazi networks have collided to shape a dangerous new era—one that has produced waves of hate crimes, radicalized young white men, and emboldened supremacist movements. </p>



<p>Lichtblau also explores the role of Trump-era politics, the mechanics of recruitment and radicalization &#8212; and what gives him hope for resistance and solidarity.</p>



<p>We also re-air a clip from <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2017/08/cory-doctorow-walkaway-zach-roberts-charlottesville/">our 2017 interview with photojournalist Zach Roberts </a>about <a href="https://www.gregpalast.com/tag/zach-d-roberts/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.gregpalast.com/tag/zach-d-roberts/">his viral photos of the brutal beating of De’Andre Harris </a>by white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia during the Unite the Right rally on August 12 of that year.</p>



<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p><strong>Key Words:</strong> American Reich, Eric Lichtblau, Writer’s Voice podcast<br>white supremacy, neo-Nazis, hate crimes, online extremism<br>replacement theory, Trump white nationalism</p>



<p><strong>You Might Also Like:</strong> <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2017/08/cory-doctorow-walkaway-zach-roberts-charlottesville/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2017/08/cory-doctorow-walkaway-zach-roberts-charlottesville/"><strong>Zach Roberts on Charlottesville attack</strong>,</a> <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/07/michael-german-on-policing-white-supremacy-the-enemy-within/">Michael German on POLICING WHITE SUPREMACY</a></p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="http://<iframe src=&quot;https://writersvoice.substack.com/embed&quot; width=&quot;480&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; style=&quot;border:1px solid #EEE; background:white;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot;&gt;</iframe&gt;">Subscribe (free or paid) for Substack transcripts</a></strong><br></p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Key Topics</h2>



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<li>The murder of Blaze Bernstein as a window into national extremism</li>



<li>How Trump-era rhetoric normalized white supremacist ideology</li>



<li>Historical cycles of xenophobia and racism in America</li>



<li>Online radicalization &amp; social platforms as recruitment engines</li>



<li>Atomwaffen Division, James Mason, and leaderless resistance</li>



<li>Replacement theory explained</li>



<li>Why young white men become targets for recruitment</li>



<li>The reality of modern hate-crime statistics</li>



<li>Community resistance and hope</li>
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					<description><![CDATA[Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform. What does a 2,000-year-old epic have to say to us today about exile, duty, love, power, war, misinformation, and the fragile hopes of human community? A great deal, say translators&#160;Scott McGill&#160;and&#160;Susannah Wright, whose new English translation of Virgil’s&#160;Aeneid&#160;captures both the grandeur of the epic &#8230; <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2026/01/the-relevance-of-virgils-aeneid-a-conversation-with-scott-mcgill-susannah-wright/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">The Relevance of Virgil’s Aeneid: A Conversation with Scott McGill &#38; Susannah Wright</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p><strong>Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform.</strong></p>



<p>What does a 2,000-year-old epic have to say to us today about exile, duty, love, power, war, misinformation, and the fragile hopes of human community? </p>



<p>A great deal, say translators&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mcgill-wright.com/"><strong>Scott McGill</strong>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<strong>Susannah Wright</strong></a>, whose <strong><a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324096436" data-type="link" data-id="https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324096436">new English translation of Virgil’s&nbsp;<em>Aeneid</em></a></strong>&nbsp;captures both the grandeur of the epic and its deeply human emotional core.</p>


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<p>“We were really keen to try to capture…the humanity of the poem, the deep pathos that Virgil generates, the power of the emotional world of the poem.”</p>
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<p>In this conversation, they talk about collaboration, emotion, translation craft, and why the&nbsp;<em>Aeneid</em>&nbsp;remains one of the most morally and politically provocative works ever written—wrestling with migration, empire, trauma, rage, resilience, and the cost of duty. </p>



<p>They also explore unforgettable characters like Aeneas and Dido, the role of Rumor as an ancient “fake news engine,” and what we gain when we keep engaging with the classics today.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>We also play clips from some of our favorite episodes of 2025</strong>: <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2026/01/notable-episodes-of-2025/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2026/01/notable-episodes-of-2025/">Links to episodes</a></h3>



<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p><strong>Key Words:</strong> Virgil, Aeneid translation, Scott McGill, Susannah Wright,&nbsp;Aeneas and Dido, Roman empire, epic poem, Writer’s Voice podcast,</p>



<p><strong>You Might Also Like:</strong> <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2014/05/james-romm-dying-every-day-robert-knapp-invisible-romans/">James Romm, DYING EVERY DAY &amp; Robert Knapp, INVISIBLE ROMANS</a>, <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2021/06/cal-flyn-islands-of-abandonment-james-romm-the-sacred-band/">James Romm, THE SACRED BAND</a></p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Key Topics</h2>



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<li>Why translate the&nbsp;<em>Aeneid</em>&nbsp;now</li>



<li>Collaboration and co-translation</li>



<li>Emotional depth vs. epic grandeur</li>



<li>Aeneas’s duty, sacrifice, and humanity</li>



<li>Dido’s heartbreak and power</li>



<li>Ambiguity of empire &amp; colonialism</li>



<li>Refugees, displacement &amp; war</li>



<li>Rumor as ancient misinformation</li>



<li>Violence, morality &amp; the troubling ending</li>



<li>Why the classics still matter today</li>
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<p>The ending of 2025 allowed us to reflect on some of our favorite episodes of the year. We had so many rich conversations in 2025 that this is by no means a complete list, but merely a sampler.</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/02/black-history-month-aaron-robertson-the-black-utopians-also-cory-doctorow-picks-and-shovels/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/02/black-history-month-aaron-robertson-the-black-utopians-also-cory-doctorow-picks-and-shovels/">February — Aaron Robertson, <em>The Black Utopians</em></a></strong></h3>



<p>Explores the hidden history of Black utopian communities in America—visions born from struggle, fueled by hope, political imagination, and self-determination, from Promised Land, Tennessee to radical Black movements in Detroit. <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/02/black-history-month-aaron-robertson-the-black-utopians-also-cory-doctorow-picks-and-shovels/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/02/black-history-month-aaron-robertson-the-black-utopians-also-cory-doctorow-picks-and-shovels/"><strong>Listen.</strong></a></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/03/womens-history-month-the-fight-for-abortion-rights-after-dobbs/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/03/womens-history-month-the-fight-for-abortion-rights-after-dobbs/">March — Amanda Becker, <em>You Must Stand Up</em></a></strong></h3>



<p>Examines the fallout from the Supreme Court’s Dobbs decision, documenting legal chaos, ongoing threats to reproductive rights, and how activists, doctors, and voters continue the fight for abortion access. <strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/03/womens-history-month-the-fight-for-abortion-rights-after-dobbs/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/03/womens-history-month-the-fight-for-abortion-rights-after-dobbs/">Listen</a></strong></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/03/breaking-barriers-on-denali-cassidy-randall-on-thirty-below-omar-el-akkad-on-empire-liberalism-bearing-witness/">March — Omar El-Akkad, <em>One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This</em></a></strong></h3>



<p>A powerful critique of empire, media silence, and Western complicity in violence, written through the lens of Gaza; a deeply personal reckoning with responsibility, morality, and witnessing atrocity in real time. <strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/03/breaking-barriers-on-denali-cassidy-randall-on-thirty-below-omar-el-akkad-on-empire-liberalism-bearing-witness/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/03/breaking-barriers-on-denali-cassidy-randall-on-thirty-below-omar-el-akkad-on-empire-liberalism-bearing-witness/">Listen</a></strong></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/06/ai-autocracy-and-afterlife-sci-fi-novelists-ray-nayler-tim-weed/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/06/ai-autocracy-and-afterlife-sci-fi-novelists-ray-nayler-tim-weed/">Ray Nayler, <em>Where the Axe Is Buried</em></a></strong></h3>



<p>A dystopian novel about AI-ruled governments, mass surveillance, and the dangers of unchecked technological power—raising urgent questions about ethics, capitalism, and resistance. <strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/06/ai-autocracy-and-afterlife-sci-fi-novelists-ray-nayler-tim-weed/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/06/ai-autocracy-and-afterlife-sci-fi-novelists-ray-nayler-tim-weed/">Listen</a></strong></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/03/speculative-futures-cary-groner-silvia-park-on-survival-ai-and-the-meaning-of-being-human/">Silvia Park, <em>Luminous</em></a></strong></h3>



<p>A haunting, philosophical novel questioning what happens when AI blurs the boundary between human and machine, exploring slavery, autonomy, inequality, and whether true human-robot equality is even possible. <strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/03/speculative-futures-cary-groner-silvia-park-on-survival-ai-and-the-meaning-of-being-human/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/03/speculative-futures-cary-groner-silvia-park-on-survival-ai-and-the-meaning-of-being-human/">Listen</a></strong></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/bruce-holsinger-on-ais-moral-dilemmas-and-elizabeth-georges-new-inspector-lynley-mystery/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/bruce-holsinger-on-ais-moral-dilemmas-and-elizabeth-georges-new-inspector-lynley-mystery/">Bruce Holsinger, <em>Culpability</em></a></strong></h3>



<p>A deeply human story about a family shattered by a self-driving car tragedy, exploring AI ethics, responsibility, grief, and who bears moral accountability when machines make life-altering decisions. <strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/bruce-holsinger-on-ais-moral-dilemmas-and-elizabeth-georges-new-inspector-lynley-mystery/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/bruce-holsinger-on-ais-moral-dilemmas-and-elizabeth-georges-new-inspector-lynley-mystery/">Listen</a></strong></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>May — <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/05/the-new-face-of-homelessness-brian-goldstone-on-there-is-no-place-for-us/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/05/the-new-face-of-homelessness-brian-goldstone-on-there-is-no-place-for-us/">Brian Goldstone, <em>There Is No Place For Us: Working and Homeless in America</em></a></strong></h3>



<p>A devastating and deeply reported portrait of working families experiencing homelessness in the U.S., revealing how poverty, prosperity inequality, and policy failures create a humanitarian crisis far larger than official counts admit. <strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/05/the-new-face-of-homelessness-brian-goldstone-on-there-is-no-place-for-us/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/05/the-new-face-of-homelessness-brian-goldstone-on-there-is-no-place-for-us/">Listen</a></strong></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/10/reality-winner-on-i-am-not-your-enemy-the-intercepts-betrayal-trumps-double-standard-and-the-egregious-espionage-act/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/10/reality-winner-on-i-am-not-your-enemy-the-intercepts-betrayal-trumps-double-standard-and-the-egregious-espionage-act/">Reality Winner — <em>I Am Not Your Enemy</em></a></strong></h3>



<p>A gripping conversation with the NSA whistleblower about why she leaked evidence of Russian election interference, the government’s harsh punishment, and what her case reveals about secrecy, democracy, and justice. <strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/10/reality-winner-on-i-am-not-your-enemy-the-intercepts-betrayal-trumps-double-standard-and-the-egregious-espionage-act/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/10/reality-winner-on-i-am-not-your-enemy-the-intercepts-betrayal-trumps-double-standard-and-the-egregious-espionage-act/">Listen</a></strong></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/cory-doctorow-on-big-techs-enshittification-bill-mckibben-on-solar-hope-for-the-planet/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/cory-doctorow-on-big-techs-enshittification-bill-mckibben-on-solar-hope-for-the-planet/">November Double-Bill — Cory Doctorow, <em>Inshittification</em></a></strong></h3>



<p>Explains how tech platforms decay from user-friendly tools into exploitative corporate machines—and what systemic solutions like antitrust enforcement and tech worker resistance could change. <strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/cory-doctorow-on-big-techs-enshittification-bill-mckibben-on-solar-hope-for-the-planet/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/cory-doctorow-on-big-techs-enshittification-bill-mckibben-on-solar-hope-for-the-planet/">Listen</a></strong></p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/cory-doctorow-on-big-techs-enshittification-bill-mckibben-on-solar-hope-for-the-planet/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/cory-doctorow-on-big-techs-enshittification-bill-mckibben-on-solar-hope-for-the-planet/">November Double-Bill — Bill McKibben, <em>Here Comes the Sun</em></a></strong></h3>



<p>A surprisingly hopeful conversation about how renewable energy is reshaping global power, offering real potential for economic justice, climate repair, and a rebalanced world.</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/we-survived-the-night-julian-brave-noisecat-on-story-survival-the-power-of-indigenous-truths/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/we-survived-the-night-julian-brave-noisecat-on-story-survival-the-power-of-indigenous-truths/">1000th Episode — Julian Brave Noisecat, <em>We Survived the Night</em></a></strong></h3>



<p>A moving memoir weaving Indigenous oral tradition, history, and contemporary struggle, exploring land, culture, trauma, resilience, and what we can learn from Indigenous ways of connection and community. <strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/we-survived-the-night-julian-brave-noisecat-on-story-survival-the-power-of-indigenous-truths/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/we-survived-the-night-julian-brave-noisecat-on-story-survival-the-power-of-indigenous-truths/">Listen</a></strong></p>



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<p><strong>We hope you&#8217;ll join us in 2026 for more of Writer&#8217;s Voice &#8212; compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform.</strong></p>



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					<description><![CDATA[Francesca Rheannon interviews Joe Dolce about Modern Psychedelics: The Handbook for Mindful Exploration—covering mental health breakthroughs, brain science, spiritual experience, policy debates, and how to safely and thoughtfully approach psychedelics.
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<p>In this episode of Writer&#8217;s Voice, we explore the what’s going on with the current resurgence of psychedelics. My guest is <strong>Joe Dolce</strong>, whose new book, <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Psychedelics-Handbook-Mindful-Exploration/dp/0762488530" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Psychedelics-Handbook-Mindful-Exploration/dp/0762488530"><strong>Modern Psychedelics: The Handbook for Mindful Exploration</strong></a></em>, dives deep into what these substances really do, why so many people are using them, and how science, politics, medicine, and culture are reshaping the conversation.</p>



<p>Dolce tells us why this is both an “exciting and confusing time” in psychedelic history—a time when reliable guidance is urgently needed in a moment of expanding access and misinformation. </p>



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<p>“I thought it was a good opportunity… there’s still so much confusion and so much misinformation about what these are, how they work, why they work, who they don’t work for, who should take them, who shouldn’t take them.” &#8212; Joe Dolce<br></p>


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<p>We talk about what psychedelics can help heal — from PTSD and addiction to&nbsp; depression and traumatic brain injury, why set and setting matter so deeply, how to micro dose psychedelics and how these substances can change not only individual consciousness, but maybe even how we relate to each other, to nature, and to the world we’re trying to save.&nbsp;</p>



<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p><strong>Key Words:</strong> Writer’s Voice podcast, Francesca Rheannon, Joe Dolce interview, Modern Psychedelics book, psychedelics research, PTSD psychedelics, traumatic brain injury psychedelics, microdosing, ibogaine therapy, MDMA therapy, psilocybin depression, psychedelics and spirituality</p>



<p><strong>You Might Also Like: </strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2023/08/david-goodman-an-american-cannabis-story-carl-hart-drug-use-for-grownups/">David Goodman, AN AMERICAN CANNABIS STORY &amp; Carl Hart, DRUG USE FOR GROWNUPS</a>, <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2017/08/alexandra-chasin-assassin-youth-mason-tvert-marijuana-safer/">Alexandra Chasin, ASSASSIN OF YOUTH &amp; Mason Tvert, MARIJUANA IS SAFER</a></p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/writersvoice/p/modern-psychedelics-healing-and-mindful?r=183be&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=true" data-type="link" data-id="https://open.substack.com/pub/writersvoice/p/modern-psychedelics-healing-and-mindful?r=183be&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=true">Read Interview Transcript</a></strong></p>



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<p>Joe Dolce traces the renewed psychedelics movement from cultural taboo to scientific renaissance. He explains why psychedelics are not like traditional pharmaceuticals, discusses risks, cautions, and who <em>shouldn’t</em> take them, and explores compelling new research into “critical periods of brain learning,” microdosing, mystical experience, and emotional healing. The conversation also looks at capitalism, policy battles, the underground psychedelic community, and the deep spiritual questions these substances raise.</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Psychedelics-Handbook-Mindful-Exploration/dp/0762488530?asin=0762488530&amp;revisionId=&amp;format=4&amp;depth=1" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Psychedelics-Handbook-Mindful-Exploration/dp/0762488530?asin=0762488530&amp;revisionId=&amp;format=4&amp;depth=1">Listen to or Read A Sample</a></strong></p>



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<p>• Why psychedelics are returning to medicine and culture<br>• The difference between psychedelics and pharmaceuticals<br>• Preparing for a psychedelic experience: set, setting &amp; safety<br>• Psychedelics and trauma healing<br>• Spiritual experience and meaning<br>• Microdosing: myth vs reality<br>• Policy, legality &amp; capitalism<br>• The underground psychedelic community<br>• How people are accessing psychedelics today</p>



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<p><a href="https://firesideproject.org" data-type="link" data-id="https://firesideproject.org">The Fireside Project</a></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform. Francesca speaks with Jonathan Slaght about his remarkable book Tigers Between Empires: The Improbable Return of Great Cats to the Forests of Russia and China. Slaght tells the story of the 35-year Siberian (Amur) Tiger Project, one of the longest-running wildlife studies in the &#8230; <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/12/the-return-of-the-siberian-tiger-jonathan-slaght-tigers-between-empires/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">The Return of the Siberian Tiger: Jonathan Slaght, TIGERS BETWEEN EMPIRES</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>Francesca speaks with <strong><a href="https://jonathanslaght.com" data-type="link" data-id="https://jonathanslaght.com">Jonathan Slaght</a></strong> about his remarkable book <em><strong>Tigers Between Empires: The Improbable Return of Great Cats to the Forests of Russia and China</strong></em>. </p>


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<p>Slaght tells the story of the <strong>35-year <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Tiger_Introduction_Project">Siberian (Amur) Tiger Project</a></strong>, one of the longest-running wildlife studies in the world, and how science, persistence, and cross-border collaboration helped bring a species back from the edge of extinction.</p>



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<p class="has-text-align-left">Key Words: Jonathan Slaght interview, Tigers Between Empires, Amur tiger conservation, Siberian Tiger Project, wildlife conservation Russia China,<br>endangered species recovery, human–wildlife conflict</p>



<p><strong>You Might Also Like: </strong><a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2023/12/mike-rothschild-jewish-space-lasers-adam-hart-deadly-balance/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2023/12/mike-rothschild-jewish-space-lasers-adam-hart-deadly-balance/">Adam Hart, DEADLY BALANCE</a>, <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2023/10/gloria-dickie-eight-bears-sonja-swift-echo-loba-loba-echo/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.writersvoice.net/2023/10/gloria-dickie-eight-bears-sonja-swift-echo-loba-loba-echo/">Gloria Dickie, EIGHT BEARS</a></p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">About the Episode</h2>



<p><strong>Jonathan Slaght</strong> recounts the extraordinary history of the <strong>Amur (Siberian) tiger’s decline and recovery</strong>, drawing on decades of field research conducted by Russian and American scientists working across political boundaries.</p>



<p>Our conversation opens with the story of Lidiya, a tigress whose seven-year reproductive record illustrates how a single animal can anchor population recovery when conditions are right. Slaght explains how the <strong>Siberian Tiger Project</strong> broke new ground by tracking individual tigers across their entire lifespans, yielding insights into reproduction, survival, territory size, and the pressures that most threaten the species .</p>



<p>The conversation traces how 19th-century border treaties between Russia and China fragmented tiger habitat, accelerating hunting and habitat loss—only for those same borders, decades later, to become sites of coordinated protection. Slaght discusses the pivotal role of Soviet-era hunting bans, protected areas, and later rapid-response teams that reduced human-tiger conflict by intervening quickly when tigers approached villages .</p>



<p>He also reflects on the conservation philosophy of <strong>“</strong>green fire,” inherited from Aldo Leopold and championed by early project leaders, which treats top predators as essential to ecosystem health rather than threats to be eliminated. </p>



<p>Finally, Slaght looks ahead, emphasizing that government commitment and international collaboration—including newly coordinated Russian-Chinese protected areas—are essential to sustaining the Amur tiger’s recovery in a time of climate change and geopolitical strain .</p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374610982/tigersbetweenempires/" data-type="link" data-id="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374610982/tigersbetweenempires/">Read An Excerpt</a></strong></p>



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					<description><![CDATA[Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform. This week on Writer’s Voice, we look at two stories from history that illuminate the choices people face as they confront evil: collaborate or resist? First, independent scholar Charles Dick joins us to discuss Unknown Enemy: The Hidden Nazi Force That Built the Third &#8230; <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/12/builders-of-terror-ally-to-justice-charles-dick-on-organisation-todt-carla-kaplan-on-jessica-mitford/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Builders of Terror, Ally to Justice: Charles Dick on Organisation Todt &#38; Carla Kaplan on Jessica Mitford</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p><strong><em>Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform</em></strong>.</p>



<p>This week on <em>Writer’s Voice</em>, we look at two stories from history that illuminate the choices people face as they confront evil: collaborate or resist? </p>



<p>First, independent scholar <strong>Charles Dick</strong> joins us to discuss <em><a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/unknown-enemy-9781639737444/" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/unknown-enemy-9781639737444/"><strong>Unknown Enemy: The Hidden Nazi Force That Built the Third Reich</strong></a></em> — the first full account of Organisation Todt, the massive construction arm of the Nazi regime that operated across Europe with lethal brutality. His book reveals how ordinary engineers and builders became central participants in enslavement and murder — and how much of this history remained hidden for decades. </p>



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<p>“<em>If you’re told… your prisoners are subhuman, you’re more likely to work them to death.</em>” &#8212; Charles Dick<br></p>
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<p>Then, in <em>Segment Two</em>, biographer <strong><a href="https://carlakaplan.com" data-type="link" data-id="https://carlakaplan.com">Carla Kaplan</a></strong> returns to <em>Writer’s Voice</em> to talk about <strong><em><a href="https://carlakaplan.com/troublemaker-the-fierce-unruly-life-of-jessica-mitford.html">Troublemaker: The Fierce, Unruly Life of Jessica Mitford</a></em><a href="https://carlakaplan.com/troublemaker-the-fierce-unruly-life-of-jessica-mitford.html" data-type="link" data-id="https://carlakaplan.com/troublemaker-the-fierce-unruly-life-of-jessica-mitford.html">.</a> </strong>Kaplan brings to life the incomparable “Decca” Mitford — aristocrat, Communist, civil-rights activist and bestselling muckraker.</p>



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<p>“<em>If she believed in something, she was unbending — and always willing to pay the price of her convictions.</em>”  &#8212; Carla Kaplan<br></p>
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<p>Key Words: Unknown Enemy Charles Dick, Fritz Todt, Holocaust studies, Jessica Mitford biography, Troublemaker Carla Kaplan, The American Way of Death, muckraking journalism, civil rights history, Freedom Rides, Mitford sisters,Francesca Rheannon interview,</p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>SEGMENT ONE  — Charles Dick on <em>Unknown Enemy</em></strong></h2>



<p>Historian <strong>Charles Dick</strong> exposes the full scope of <em>Organisation Todt (OT)</em> — the Nazi regime’s massive, understudied construction force. OT built the Autobahn, the massive North Atlantic coastal fortifications and Hitler’s underground weapons factories; oversaw millions of enslaved laborers; and carried out brutal operations across occupied Europe.</p>



<p>Despite its central role, OT escaped the scrutiny that fell on the SS and Wehrmacht — leaving its crimes obscured until now.</p>



<p>Dick explains how:</p>



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<li>Engineers, builders, and architects became perpetrators.</li>



<li>Death rates in OT camps often equaled or exceeded those under the SS.</li>



<li>The organization expanded across Europe into a continent-wide system of forced labor.</li>



<li>OT leadership — including Fritz Todt and Albert Speer — held immense power and largely avoided justice.</li>
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<p>He shares harrowing survivor accounts revealed in the book — from Ukraine, Alderney, Estonia, Stutthof, and the Kaufering/Dachau subcamps — stories long buried in archives.</p>


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<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>SEGMENT TWO — Carla Kaplan on <em>Troublemaker</em></strong></h2>



<p>Biographer <strong>Carla Kaplan</strong> returns to discuss <strong>Jessica Mitford</strong> — aristocrat-turned-revolutionary, Communist organizer, civil-rights witness, and author of the groundbreaking exposé <em>The American Way of Death</em>.</p>



<p>Kaplan traces Mitford’s transformation from an eccentric, cloistered, aristocratic childhood among the infamous Mitford sisters — including Nazi sympathizers Diana and Unity — to her self-invented life as a radical activist and bestselling writer in the U.S.</p>



<p>Kaplan shares:</p>



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<li>Mitford’s early sense of injustice.</li>



<li>Her refusal to compromise with editors over <em>The American Way of Death</em>.</li>



<li>Her experiences during the Freedom Rides — including witnessing John Lewis’s beating.</li>



<li>Why she and her husband joined and later left the Communist Party.</li>



<li>Her complicated relationship to feminism.</li>



<li>Her deep belief in political loyalty, humor, and collective action.</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/troublemaker-carla-kaplan?variant=43731741769762" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/troublemaker-carla-kaplan?variant=43731741769762">Read An Excerpt</a></strong></p>



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					<description><![CDATA[Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform. In this episode of Writer’s Voice, Francesca Rheannon speaks with Susana M. Morris, acclaimed scholar of Black feminist thought, about her new biography Positive Obsession: The Life and Times of Octavia E. Butler. Drawing on interviews, archival materials, and Butler’s own journals, Morris shows &#8230; <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/12/positive-obsession-susana-m-morris-on-the-life-vision-influence-of-octavia-butler/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Positive Obsession: Susana M. Morris on the Life, Vision &#38; Influence of Octavia Butler</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p><strong><em>Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform</em></strong>.</p>



<p>In this episode of <em>Writer’s Voice</em>, Francesca Rheannon speaks with <strong><a href="https://www.susanamorris.com/about" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.susanamorris.com/about">Susana M. Morris</a></strong>, acclaimed scholar of Black feminist thought, about her new biography <strong><em><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/positive-obsession-susana-m-morris?variant=43730573787170" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/positive-obsession-susana-m-morris?variant=43730573787170">Positive Obsession: The Life and Times of Octavia E. Butler</a></em>.</strong> </p>



<p>Drawing on interviews, archival materials, and Butler’s own journals, Morris shows how Butler’s discipline, political analysis, and upbringing shaped some of the most influential speculative fiction of our time.</p>



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<p>“Now there is such a plethora of Black folk… writing science fiction and fantasy. It’s really exciting. And we have Octavia to thank for it.”&nbsp; &#8212; Susana Morris</p>
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<p>The conversation covers Butler’s formative years; her neurodivergence and self-diagnosed dyslexia; her relationship with her mother; the creation of <em>Kindred</em>; and her prophetic insights into climate collapse, fascism, hierarchy, and the contradictions of American democracy.</p>



<p>Then, we air a clip from <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2012/11/ursula-k-le-guin-archer-mayor/">our 2012 interview</a> with the late, great science fiction master, <strong>Ursula K. Le Guin</strong>.</p>



<p><strong>Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and&nbsp;</strong><a href="https://writersvoice.substack.com/"><strong>subscribe to our Substack</strong></a><strong>. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast</strong>.</p>



<p>Key Words: Octavia Butler biography, Octavia Butler interview, Positive Obsession Susana Morris, Parable of the Sower prophecy, Black women writers, Afrofuturism, science fiction history, Black feminist literature, Francesca Rheannon interview,</p>



<p><strong>You Might Also Like:</strong>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2012/12/ten-best-shows-of-2012/" data-type="post" data-id="5447">Ursula K. Le Guin, THE UNREAL AND THE REAL</a>, <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2024/01/cory-doctorow-the-lost-cause/">Cory Doctorow, THE LOST CAUSE</a>.<br></p>



<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://share.transistor.fm/s/a427949e/transcript.txt" data-type="link" data-id="https://share.transistor.fm/s/a427949e/transcript.txt">Read the Transcript</a></strong></p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Main Segment: Susana Morris</strong></h2>



<p><strong>Main Segment — Susana M. Morris on </strong><strong><em>Positive Obsession</em></strong></p>



<p>Morris reveals how Octavia Butler’s childhood experiences—especially witnessing the humiliating treatment of her mother, a domestic worker—shaped her lifelong political and creative vision. </p>



<p>She explains Butler’s “positive obsession,” the relentless work ethic that drove her writing; her rigorous research process; her early awareness of environmental crisis; and her pattern recognition around racism, patriarchy, and authoritarianism.</p>



<p>Morris also situates Butler within the Black women’s literary renaissance alongside Toni Morrison, Audre Lorde, Toni Cade Bambara, and others, while emphasizing Butler’s singular contributions to speculative fiction and Afrofuturism.</p>



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<li>Butler’s “positive obsession” and writing discipline</li>



<li>Neurodivergence and self-diagnosed dyslexia</li>



<li>Racism, patriarchy, and the politics embedded in Butler’s fiction</li>



<li>The making of <em>Kindred</em></li>



<li>Butler’s prescient insights into climate crisis and authoritarianism</li>



<li>Black women’s literary renaissance</li>



<li>Afrofuturism, legacy, and influence on contemporary writers</li>



<li>Speculative fiction as social and political critique</li>



<li>Butler’s research methodology and fieldwork</li>



<li>The human contradiction: intelligence vs. hierarchy</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-center"><strong><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/positive-obsession-susana-m-morris?variant=43730573787170" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/positive-obsession-susana-m-morris?variant=43730573787170">Read an Excerpt from Positive Obsession</a></strong></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform. In this, our 1,000th episode of Writer’s Voice, Francesca Rheannon interviews Julian Brave Noisecat about We Survived the Night, his memoir weaving Indigenous oral traditions, personal narrative, political history, and  environmental insight. Noisecat explores Coyote stories, the legacy of residential schools, intergenerational trauma, mixed-race &#8230; <a href="https://www.writersvoice.net/2025/11/we-survived-the-night-julian-brave-noisecat-on-story-survival-the-power-of-indigenous-truths/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">WE SURVIVED THE NIGHT: Julian Brave Noisecat on Story, Survival &#38; the Power of Indigenous Truths</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p><strong><em>Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform</em></strong>.</p>



<p>In this, <strong>our 1,000th episode of <em>Writer’s Voice</em>,</strong> Francesca Rheannon interviews <strong>Julian Brave Noisecat</strong> about <em>We Survived the Night</em>, his memoir weaving Indigenous oral traditions, personal narrative, political history, and  environmental insight. </p>



<p>Noisecat explores Coyote stories, the legacy of residential schools, intergenerational trauma, mixed-race identity, the meaning of home, Indigenous political traditions, and the contemporary struggle for land, water, and cultural continuity.</p>



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<p>“The text itself is a woven narrative that combines different elements of nonfiction to put these different kinds of truths and storytelling in conversation with each other.”</p>
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<p>Through humor, grief, myth, and investigative rigor, Noisecat reframes Indigenous storytelling as nonfiction — a mode of truth that Western traditions have long dismissed. This conversation highlights the power of indigenous stories to resist erasure, illuminate political histories, and recover cultural knowledge.</p>



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<p>Key Words: Julian Brave Noisecat interview, We Survived the Night, Indigenous memoir, Coyote stories, residential schools history, Native American literature, intergenerational trauma, Indigenous resurgence, Salish culture, environmental justice Indigenous communities, land dispossession history, </p>



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<p class="has-text-align-center">[top image: carving by Ed Archie Noisecat]</p>



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<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>SEGMENT SUMMARY</strong></h2>



<p>Francesca speaks with Julian Brave Noisecat about his memoir/history <em>We Survived the Night</em>, structured around a four-day fasting tradition and infused with the oral-literary lineage of Coyote stories. Noisecat discusses his father’s birth at a residential school, the silence around Indigenous trauma, his family’s weaving traditions, and how Coyote mythology offers a language for understanding survival, contradiction, and the men in his family.</p>



<p>He describes the interconnection between land and people in Salish languages; the role of urban Native communities in activism; the Indigenous resurgence of the late 20th century; traditional ecological knowledge; and political tensions over fisheries, pipelines, and Arctic development. He also reflects on the personal: alcoholism, relationships, mixed-race identity, and the role of his mother in keeping him connected to his community.</p>



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<li>Indigenous oral traditions as nonfiction</li>



<li>Coyote as ancestral, literary, and allegorical figure</li>



<li>Residential schools, unmarked graves, cultural genocide</li>



<li>Intergenerational trauma and family silence</li>



<li>Mixed-race identity and kinship</li>



<li>The meaning of home for Native people</li>



<li>Indigenous political history and contemporary power</li>



<li>Environmental stewardship and fisheries</li>



<li>Colonization as an ongoing structure</li>



<li>Survival, continuity, and cultural resurgence</li>
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