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		<title>Comment on iPhone Voice Commands by Louis St-Amour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis St-Amour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just hope they improve Voice Control in future versions, as I'm tired of having to say "stop; no; pause" when I want the music to stop. I do like how VoiceOver can read me my emails, but I don't like how the option to turn it on and off is buried 5 menus deep in Settings. There should be common settings as voice commands, such as "VoiceOver On". And you should be able to launch apps / search with it. Or even the basic, "play track ", since "play artist ", "play songs by " and "play album" works. Of course, it would be even cooler if you could just say "What's new?" and hear (or voice navigate through) your most recent alerts, push IMs, SMSes, voice mails and emails.

Also, the voiceover feature doesn't work well with third-party apps, e.g. in Tweetie it skips all the tweets and just says "Empty list". It doesn't even work well in iTunes, where when searching, it crashes the iTunes app! Here's hoping they fix that little thing in 3.1 also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hope they improve Voice Control in future versions, as I&#8217;m tired of having to say &#8220;stop; no; pause&#8221; when I want the music to stop. I do like how VoiceOver can read me my emails, but I don&#8217;t like how the option to turn it on and off is buried 5 menus deep in Settings. There should be common settings as voice commands, such as &#8220;VoiceOver On&#8221;. And you should be able to launch apps / search with it. Or even the basic, &#8220;play track &#8220;, since &#8220;play artist &#8220;, &#8220;play songs by &#8221; and &#8220;play album&#8221; works. Of course, it would be even cooler if you could just say &#8220;What&#8217;s new?&#8221; and hear (or voice navigate through) your most recent alerts, push IMs, SMSes, voice mails and emails.</p>
<p>Also, the voiceover feature doesn&#8217;t work well with third-party apps, e.g. in Tweetie it skips all the tweets and just says &#8220;Empty list&#8221;. It doesn&#8217;t even work well in iTunes, where when searching, it crashes the iTunes app! Here&#8217;s hoping they fix that little thing in 3.1 also.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reader Mailbag: Maintain Your Mac by Reader Mailbag: Maintain Your Mac « The BAT Channel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader Mailbag: Maintain Your Mac « The BAT Channel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reader Mailbag: Maintain Your Mac [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Reader Mailbag: Maintain Your Mac by James Ong</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Ong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use IceClean to do my deep maintenance and fix stuff:
http://www.macdentro.com/MacDentro/Home.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use IceClean to do my deep maintenance and fix stuff:<br />
<a href="http://www.macdentro.com/MacDentro/Home.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.macdentro.com/MacDentro/Home.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on iPhone Voice Commands by Seb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>voice control over bluetooth will be availible in the 3.1 update which will be released soon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>voice control over bluetooth will be availible in the 3.1 update which will be released soon</p>
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		<title>Comment on iPhone Voice Commands by Paul Natsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Natsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I just got back from the Apple Store and unfortunately the iPhone 3GS didn't work with Vocalize. The iPhone 3GS could "see" it but wouldn't pair with it. 

I wouldn't say this was a definitive test though. I didn't do a "Soft Reboot" of the iPhone 3GS which according to Vocalize's manual sometimes solves Bluetooth connectivity issues. I forgot about trying that probably because I never had to do that with any (Windows Mobile) smartphone I tried Vocalize with before. Oh well. I'll try it next time. Doesn't look promising though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I just got back from the Apple Store and unfortunately the iPhone 3GS didn&#8217;t work with Vocalize. The iPhone 3GS could &#8220;see&#8221; it but wouldn&#8217;t pair with it. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say this was a definitive test though. I didn&#8217;t do a &#8220;Soft Reboot&#8221; of the iPhone 3GS which according to Vocalize&#8217;s manual sometimes solves Bluetooth connectivity issues. I forgot about trying that probably because I never had to do that with any (Windows Mobile) smartphone I tried Vocalize with before. Oh well. I&#8217;ll try it next time. Doesn&#8217;t look promising though.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Natsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick update. It's STILL raining badly here. This is the worst rainstorm we've had here in quite awhile. So no Apple Store yet. As soon as I go I'll report my findings. 

Thanks to Darrell for letting us know about the modified BlueAnt V1 and to Erick for the news about the 3.1 SDK. The iPhone, which not long ago seemed completely out of reach for mobility-impaired people, now looks like it's going to become a realistic option for some of us, one way or another. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick update. It&#8217;s STILL raining badly here. This is the worst rainstorm we&#8217;ve had here in quite awhile. So no Apple Store yet. As soon as I go I&#8217;ll report my findings. </p>
<p>Thanks to Darrell for letting us know about the modified BlueAnt V1 and to Erick for the news about the 3.1 SDK. The iPhone, which not long ago seemed completely out of reach for mobility-impaired people, now looks like it&#8217;s going to become a realistic option for some of us, one way or another. <img src='http://atmac.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on iPhone Voice Commands by Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

Looks like the discussions around the 3.1 SDK indicate you are right...thanks for the tip. Apparently 3.1 is currently only available to developers but will be released in a month or two.

Still...you have to keep the phone where you can see and get access to it to push its button; and you have to have enough movement to push the button (or enough movement to push the button on the Bluetooth).

Maybe I will work on a headset that will be cheaper than the BlueAnt V1 that would be suitable to use with the iPhone 3GS. That way there would be a choice between the BlueAnt and it's Voice commands to be used with any phone and a Bluetooth Headset with no Voice Commands that could be triggered by a magnet and used with the iPhone 3GS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Looks like the discussions around the 3.1 SDK indicate you are right&#8230;thanks for the tip. Apparently 3.1 is currently only available to developers but will be released in a month or two.</p>
<p>Still&#8230;you have to keep the phone where you can see and get access to it to push its button; and you have to have enough movement to push the button (or enough movement to push the button on the Bluetooth).</p>
<p>Maybe I will work on a headset that will be cheaper than the BlueAnt V1 that would be suitable to use with the iPhone 3GS. That way there would be a choice between the BlueAnt and it&#8217;s Voice commands to be used with any phone and a Bluetooth Headset with no Voice Commands that could be triggered by a magnet and used with the iPhone 3GS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on iPhone Voice Commands by Erick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3.1 SDK reveals that you can just hit the call button and it will bring up Voice Control using any regular bluetooth headset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3.1 SDK reveals that you can just hit the call button and it will bring up Voice Control using any regular bluetooth headset.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did quite a bit of research and it seems that no Bluetooth Headset will work with the iPhone 3GS "Voice Commands" (at least for now). However, the BlueAnt V1 has its own set of built-in Voice Commands. This third party Website is a pretty good review of the V1 and some of the comments highlight its pros and cons. The writer explains some of the voice commands built into the headset.

[ http://www.slashgear.com/blueant-v1-voice-control-bluetooth-headset-review-2614626/#respond ]

The difference between the V1 and the No buttons Headset is that you DO NOT have to push the button...which is great for someone like my son who cannot push a button (moving the headset close to a conveniently mounted magnet is equivalent to pushing the button).

"You can say commands like "Speed Dial 9" and it will dial what ever number you have stored in your phone under the phone's #9 "Speed Dial" location. Some providers like Sprint or AT&amp;T have a server based voice dial system. You can access the AT&amp;T feature by dialing *8. If you cannot push a button you could store *8 at the "Speed Dial" #9 location and access it with the "No Buttons Headset" by moving the headset momentarily next to the magnet (just a quick pass...similar to pushing and releasing a button)...the headset will say "Say a Command"...if you say "Speed Dial 9" it will access the number at that location on your phone and (in this case) dial *8 which would connect you to the phone company's Voice Dialing feature where you can say a name that you previously stored there...or you can dial by saying the number you want to call.

[  http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/ueContent.jsp?scTopic=pcsVoiceCommand85  ]

[  http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/basics/choosing-features-services/voicedial.jsp  ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did quite a bit of research and it seems that no Bluetooth Headset will work with the iPhone 3GS &#8220;Voice Commands&#8221; (at least for now). However, the BlueAnt V1 has its own set of built-in Voice Commands. This third party Website is a pretty good review of the V1 and some of the comments highlight its pros and cons. The writer explains some of the voice commands built into the headset.</p>
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<p>The difference between the V1 and the No buttons Headset is that you DO NOT have to push the button&#8230;which is great for someone like my son who cannot push a button (moving the headset close to a conveniently mounted magnet is equivalent to pushing the button).</p>
<p>&#8220;You can say commands like &#8220;Speed Dial 9&#8243; and it will dial what ever number you have stored in your phone under the phone&#8217;s #9 &#8220;Speed Dial&#8221; location. Some providers like Sprint or AT&amp;T have a server based voice dial system. You can access the AT&amp;T feature by dialing *8. If you cannot push a button you could store *8 at the &#8220;Speed Dial&#8221; #9 location and access it with the &#8220;No Buttons Headset&#8221; by moving the headset momentarily next to the magnet (just a quick pass&#8230;similar to pushing and releasing a button)&#8230;the headset will say &#8220;Say a Command&#8221;&#8230;if you say &#8220;Speed Dial 9&#8243; it will access the number at that location on your phone and (in this case) dial *8 which would connect you to the phone company&#8217;s Voice Dialing feature where you can say a name that you previously stored there&#8230;or you can dial by saying the number you want to call.</p>
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