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<description>(Tim) As I'm working on a sermon on Matthew 23:16-24, I'm again struck by how good Don Carson's commentary on Matthew (Expositor's Bible Commentary series) is. Typical of his ability to get to the heart of the matter is this...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim)&lt;/em&gt; As I'm working on a sermon on Matthew 23:16-24, I'm again struck by how good Don Carson's commentary on Matthew (Expositor's Bible Commentary series) is. Typical of his ability to get to the heart of the matter is this comment on Jesus' third woe dealing with oaths found in verses 16-22. Note particularly his final statement:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some writers have supposed that 5:33-37--which, formally at least, abolishes oaths--contradicts 23:20-22, which maintains that all oaths are binding but does not abolish them. In fact, however, verses 20-22 provide the rationale for 5:33-37. All oaths are in some way related to God. All are therefore binding, and thus evasive oaths are disallowed. On the other hand, the heart of the issue is telling the truth; and it is probably a new kind of casuistry that, failing to see this, insists that Jesus in 5:33-37 abolishes all oaths of every kind. (Carson, p. 479)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Normally, I wouldn't post such a simple thought and recommendation, but having drubbed Dr. Carson in a post earlier this week for his promotion of gender-neutered Bibles, it seemed right to say the good publicly.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


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<title>A wonderful evening with Pastor Conrad Mbewe...</title>
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<description>(Tim) Last night, our elders, pastors, and wives gathered for dinner and an evening's conversation with Pastor Conrad Mbewe, a dear brother who serves as the pastor of Kabwata Baptist Church in Lusaka, Zambia. Pastor Mbewe was here in the...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://nebti5.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/18/pastormbeweelders.jpg"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://nebti5.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/18/pastormbeweelders.jpg" title="Pastormbeweelders" alt="Pastormbeweelders" class="image-full" style="margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px; float: left; width: 335px; height: 266px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
 (Tim)&lt;/em&gt; Last night, our elders, pastors, and wives gathered for dinner and an evening's conversation with Pastor Conrad Mbewe, a dear brother who serves as the pastor of Kabwata Baptist Church in Lusaka, Zambia. Pastor Mbewe was here in the States to preach at the &lt;a href="http://www.hbcowensboro.org/missionsconference08/"&gt;missions conference&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href="http://www.hbcowensboro.org/"&gt;Heritage Baptist Church&lt;/a&gt; in Owensboro, Kentucky. Tonight, the men studying here at ClearNote Pastors College will also have dinner and an evening learning from Ba Mbewe. We all give thanks to God for this opportunity. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some years back, Pastor David Wegener, a dear friend of my brother David and I who had served as a pastor here at Church of the Good Shepherd, moved to Ndola, Zambia, to begin serving as an instructor at the Theological College of Central Africa. Along with his wife, Terri, and their four children, Lizzie (who lives with Mary Lee and me this year), Mary, John, and Sarah, David is seconded to TCCA by the Presbyterian Church in America's mission agency, Mission to the World. At TCCA, David serves under Principal Joseph Simfukwe. Soon after beginning his work in Zambia, Pastor Wegener told us of the vital Biblically reformed work being done done in Lusaka by Pastor Mbewe, and since that time, Pastor Wegener has begun lecturing at the preaching college sponsored by Pastor Mbewe's congregation. So we knew of Pastor Mbewe through Pastor Wegener, but until last night, had never met him.
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&lt;p&gt;So who is &lt;a href="http://www.banneroftruth.org/pages/articles/article_detail.php?458"&gt;Pastor Conrad Mbewe&lt;/a&gt;... &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Submitting to Jesus Christ by faith back in 1979, Pastor Mbewe sat
under the preaching of then-Pastor Joseph Simfukwe in Lusaka while he
was an undergraduate studying mining engineering there in Zambia's
capital. Through a series of sermons on Galatians Pastor Simfukwe
preached, along with several other university students Mr. Mbewe came
to embrace the sovereignty and providence of God. Hearing Pastor
Simfukwe quote men like Hodge and Spurgeon, the young men decided to
read what their pastor was reading. As Pastor Mbewe told us last night,
they saw that a number of these good books had a picture on their spine
of Whitefield preaching with his arm lifted in the air, so they
concluded the best way to get good books was to ask for books with this
picture. This was the beginning of the reformed Baptist movement in
Zambia which many would consider the most vital reformed work on the
continent today.
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;After graduating from university and starting his work as a mining
engineer, in 1987 Pastor Mbewe received a call to serve as the pastor
of Kabwata Baptist
Church where he has been for the past twenty years. Kabwata Baptist has
grown in southern Africa since that date. The church has founded
Reformed Baptist Preachers College (Pastor Mbewe is the college's
Principal), and for about ten years now Kabwata has been active in
planting other reformed churches in
Zambia and Botswana which are supported until they reach maturity (it's
hoped in about eight years) by both Kabwata and HeartCry Missionary
Society (directed by Paul Washer). Pastor Mbewe edits &lt;em&gt;Reformation Zambia&lt;/em&gt;
magazine and is a columnist for several Zambian newspapers. Married for
twenty years to his wife, Felistas, the Mbewe's have three children by
blood, but a number of others who live with them in their Christian
household.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Readers interested in supporting this vital work God is doing
through Kabwata Baptist Church and Pastor Mbewe may get in touch with
HeartCry Missionary Society and &lt;a href="http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/financial/ways_to_give"&gt;join in their fraternal relationship&lt;/a&gt; with our Zambian brothers and sisters.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But more, if you're able, go to Zambia and visit Kabwata Baptist Church. Sit under Pastor Mbewe's &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1GrqzstBr8"&gt;ministry&lt;/a&gt; any way you are able. You will grow in wisdom and faith.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;* * *&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(If you're interested, here are the names of those in the
picture: first, up front, Pastor Mbewe; behind Conrad starting from front left, Pastor Stephen Baker, Pastor Conrad
Mbewe, Elder Tim Wegener and his wife, Anne; Elder Lawrence Howell
behind his wife, Janet; Elder Jeff Moore with his wife, Laura, behind him;
then, going up the stairs, Pastor Dave Curell next to his wife, Annie;
with his arm on Dave's shoulder is Elder Wayne Huck (who's wife, Joyce,
wasn't able to join us); behind Dave going up the stairs is Elder Jeff
Ewer in front of his wife, Amanda and their week-old newborn son, Amos;
next to Amanda is my wife, Mary Lee; and finally, Mary Lee's and my son
and daughter-in-law, Joseph and Heidi Bayly who just graduated from
ClearNote Pastors College.)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim)&lt;/em&gt; Starting in 1996 or so (actually, my work on the &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt; started years before this), David and I worked hard privately and publicly to oppose a number of members of the Evangelical Theological Society (ETS) who, working through the International Bible Society, Tyndale House, and Zondervan, were removing the sex-markings of thousands of texts of Scripture in the &lt;em&gt;Living Bible&lt;/em&gt; and the &lt;em&gt;New International Version&lt;/em&gt;. At the time, the &lt;em&gt;NIV&lt;/em&gt; was the Bible translation standard of the Bible-believing, English-speaking world, so it was the efforts to modernize this particular translation that were our main public focus.&lt;br /&gt;
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Our opponents' plan was to put out an updated &lt;em&gt;NIV&lt;/em&gt; called the &lt;em&gt;New International Version Inclusive.&lt;/em&gt; Since then, they've updated their work giving it the name, &lt;em&gt;Today's New International Version (TNIV)&lt;/em&gt;. In the &lt;em&gt;TNIV&lt;/em&gt;, Hebrew and Greek words such as &lt;em&gt;adam&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;adelphoi&lt;/em&gt;, and &lt;em&gt;aner&lt;/em&gt; are stripped of their male grammatical component. These scholars, publishers, and corporate executives worked together to mute these words, ending up with new books called &amp;quot;Bibles&amp;quot; where thousands of changes had been made to render them innocuous to those of us raised in a feminized society in which it has become gauche to make references to mixed-sex groups using any word with a male marking. Thus, in their book, 'man' became 'humankind', 'brothers' became 'Christian friends' (&lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt;) or 'siblings' (&lt;em&gt;NIVI&lt;/em&gt;), 'man' became 'person', and so on--thousands of times across the pages of Scripture.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
As you'll see from the above reference to the &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt;, the &lt;em&gt;NIV&lt;/em&gt; was not the only Bible in wide use across the evangelical world being similarly updated. In an effort to update the &lt;em&gt;Living Bible&lt;/em&gt; which was growing long-in-the-teeth, Tyndale House Publishers had hired a long list of ETS academics to produce the &lt;em&gt;New Living Translation&lt;/em&gt; which, benefiting from millions of dollars in advertising and purchased product placement in national bookstore chains, was steadily gaining market share. (The writer is the son-in-law of Ken Taylor, owner of Tyndale House Publishers until his death several years ago.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Partly because of the naturally lower expectations of accuracy the &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt; inherited from its predecessor, the &lt;em&gt;Living Bible&lt;/em&gt;; partly because the academics who had done the &lt;em&gt;NLT's&lt;/em&gt; translation work likely expected it to be more a devotional than a study Bible; and partly because the &lt;em&gt;NLT's&lt;/em&gt; publisher responded to expressions of concern over some of the more egregious mistranslations evident in the &lt;em&gt;NLT's&lt;/em&gt; text with thoughtful consideration and, eventually, a number of changes to the text of the &lt;em&gt;NLT's&lt;/em&gt; subsequent printings; the public battle was focused almost exclusively on the updated &lt;em&gt;NIVI&lt;/em&gt;, its publisher Zondervan, and Zondervan's subsidiary (in a manner of speaking), the International Bible Society and her subordinate Bible Translation Committee.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The public became aware of the battle through the publication March 29, 1997 of Susan Olasky's cover article, &amp;quot;The Stealth Bible: the Feminist Seduction of the Evangelical Church,&amp;quot; in &lt;em&gt;World&lt;/em&gt; magazine. For almost everyone this was the first hint of Zondervan's plans and the response was a good measure of the profound theological divisions present within the vast entrepreneurial business park named &amp;quot;evangelicalism.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Predictably, one side decried Olasky's divisive spirit and focused their attack on &lt;em&gt;World&lt;/em&gt; magazine...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;...calling for the Evangelical Press Association to rebuke &lt;em&gt;World's&lt;/em&gt;
editor and publisher for their purported journalistic misdeeds. Their
effort failed but members of ETS picked up the cudgel in Zondervan's
behalf and they continue their efforts to this day. Having been paid,
themselves, to do gender-neutered Bible translations, a number of
scholars went on radio and television, wrote articles and letters to
the editor, and published books defending Zondervan's new
gender-neutral Bible product.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The best-known example of this academic circling of the wagons was Don Carson's book titled, &lt;em&gt;The Inclusive-Language Debate: A Plea for Realism&lt;/em&gt;, published in 1998--one year after the battle was joined by Olasky in the pages of &lt;em&gt;World&lt;/em&gt;.
Long considered one of Carl F. H. Henry's most likely successors as the
leading evangelical theologian, Carson took the posture of wise and
impartial observer as he defended gender-neutral translations of
Scripture. Claiming his defense was the only sane position for those
knowing the intricacies of translation work, Carson denied outright
that these changes were contrary to the plain sense of God's Word as
the Holy Spirit had inspired it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At the time I had just taken on the position of Executive Director
of the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW) and was
chagrined to have Carson resign from CBMW when we became publicly
aligned with opposition to this new trend in Bible translation. Having
received his resignation, I suspected there was more behind his
resignation than the gender-neutral Bible controversy, but I called him
and, introducing myself, asked him to reconsider his resignation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Carson was dismissive of my request saying that he was unwilling to
align himself with an organization that took a position on the use of
inclusive language in Scripture that would cause him to &amp;quot;laughed off
the platform&amp;quot; of those secular universities where he regularly spoke. A
year later, Carson came out with &lt;em&gt;The Inclusive-Language Debate: A Plea for Realism&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Both the more liberal element and those lacking discernment within
evangelicalism took Carson's work as an edict from on high and have not
troubled themselves with this issue since Carson pronounced his
judgement.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A couple years later Westminster Theological Seminary's Professor of
New Testament Interpretation, Vern Poythress, wrote a response to
Carson, and those who have read Poythress's arguments against
gender-neutral Bible translation note that Poythress is every bit
Carson's equal in academic credentials and expertise in the academic
disciplines pertinent to this debate. The case he builds in &lt;a href="http://www.keptthefaith.org/"&gt;The Gender-Neutral Bible Controversy: Muting the Masculinity of God's Words&lt;/a&gt;, along with the contributions Poythress' co-author, Wayne Grudem, makes to the work combine to deal Carson a decisive blow.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One critical aspect of Carson's work that has yet to be publicized
and condemned as it ought is his failure to reveal to his readers that
he had a prior commitment in the matter at hand, and that he could make
no claim to be an impartial judge.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Because a few years earlier Tyndale House Publishers had paid Carson
to produce a gender-neutral translation of the book of Acts for the &lt;em&gt;New Living Translation&lt;/em&gt;.
And it's interesting to note it was Carson's Acts in which, arguably,
the worst example of gender-neutral Bible translation technique
occurred. The first edition of the &lt;em&gt;NLT's&lt;/em&gt; version of Acts 1:21,22 read: &amp;quot;So now we must choose someone else to take Judas's place. It must be &lt;strong&gt;someone&lt;/strong&gt; (&lt;em&gt;Greek 'aner' meaning gender-specifc 'man'&lt;/em&gt;)
who has been with us all the time that we were with the Lord
Jesus--from the time he was baptized by John until the day he was taken
from us into heaven. Whoever is chosen will join us as a witness of
Jesus' resurrection&amp;quot; (&lt;em&gt;NLT-First Edition&lt;/em&gt;).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As noted above, the Greek word is 'aner' and the &lt;em&gt;New American Standard Bible&lt;/em&gt; translates it properly: &amp;quot;Therefore it is necessary that of the &lt;strong&gt;men&lt;/strong&gt; (&lt;em&gt;aner&lt;/em&gt;)
who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and
out among us--beginning with the baptism of John until the day that He
was taken up from us--one of these must become a witness with us of His
resurrection&amp;quot; (&lt;em&gt;NASB-95 Edition&lt;/em&gt;).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is no small thing to remove the male semantical component from
the verse dealing with the selection of a new man to hold the apostolic
office and it's good to be able to report that Tyndale House Publishers
chose to revert to the meaning of the original Greek in subsequent
printings of the &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt;. Still, the significance of this
mistranslation occurring on Carson's watch cannot be overemphasized in
considering Carson's credentials as an expert judge of the legitimacy
of the whole gender-neutering enterprise.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When Carson issued his book and when the work was reviewed in the pages of the &lt;em&gt;Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society&lt;/em&gt;,
why didn't anyone note Carson's failure to disclose his prior
commitments through which he profited financially from doing
gender-neutral Bible translation? Can anyone seriously argue that this
information is not pertinent to Carson's credentials as an impartial
judge in this matter?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regardless of how disillusioned one might be to learn how lax
evangelical publishers are about requiring authors to divulge their own
conflict of interest, another aspect of this debate didn't come to
light for a couple years and has yet to receive the publicity it ought
to receive across the evangelical world.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A short time back an article in the &lt;em&gt;Jewish Telegraph&lt;/em&gt; told of
the growing success of an 18-year campaign by retired Jewish publisher
Irvin Borowsky to alter New Testament language he describes as
&amp;quot;excessively faulting all Jews for the suffering and execution of
Jesus.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Seventy-six-year-old Borowsky founded the American Interfaith
Institute in 1982 to urge Christians to cleanse the New Testament of
&amp;quot;hate language.&amp;quot; According to Borowsky these efforts are finally
bearing fruit: &amp;quot;History will record that the scholars and the president
of the American Bible Society who published the first Bible that
contained no anti-Judaism in nearly 2,000 years were the first to
record accurately the historical events of the first century.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The particular Bible Borowsky is here referring to is the American Bible Society's &lt;em&gt;Contemporary English Version &lt;/em&gt; (&lt;em&gt;CEV&lt;/em&gt;). Adoption of &lt;strong&gt;inclusive gender language&lt;/strong&gt; in the &lt;em&gt;CEV&lt;/em&gt; has been common knowledge for years. Almost unknown, though, was the willingness of &lt;em&gt;CEV&lt;/em&gt; translators to alter New Testament &lt;strong&gt;words referring to the Jewish people&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yet the American Bible Society is not the only Bible publisher to
bow the knee in deference to Borowsky, and to avoid &amp;quot;excessively
faulting all Jews.&amp;quot; What other recent translation has incorporated the
same changes Borowsky praises in the &lt;em&gt;CEV&lt;/em&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;About a year ago (and quite by accident), I discovered Tyndale House Publisher's &lt;em&gt;New Living Translation&lt;/em&gt; ( &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt;) had joined the American Bible Society's &lt;em&gt;CEV&lt;/em&gt; in obscuring the meaning of the Greek word 'Ioudaios' and its cognates in the Gospel of John. At times the &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt; changed the translation of the Greek word 'Ioudaios' from &amp;quot;Jews&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Jewish leaders.&amp;quot; At other times, the &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt; dispensed with any Jewish semantical component at all, simply translating Ioudaiois as 'people.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The fact that these changes to the words of the New Testament were quietly slipped into the &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt; is remarkable for several reasons. First, the &lt;em&gt;CEV&lt;/em&gt; has never been known as an evangelical translation: &lt;em&gt;CEV&lt;/em&gt; translators were not culled from Evangelical ranks whereas &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt; translators were. Obviously, the plenary verbal inspiration of Scripture was not an issue for &lt;em&gt;CEV&lt;/em&gt; translators, while Tyndale House Publishers stresses that the translators of the &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt; &amp;quot;are evangelicals who accept the Bible as the inspired Word of God.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Second, the &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt; made clear its preference for inclusive
gender language from the very outset. Before inclusive language became
a major issue in the evangelical world, the &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt; had publicly stated in the introduction of its first edition:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The English language changes constantly. An obvious recent
change is in the area of gender-inclusive language. This creates
problems for modern translators of the ancient biblical text, which was
originally written in a male-oriented culture. The translator must
respect the nature of the ancient context while also accounting for the
concerns of the modern audience. Often the original language itself
allows a rendering that is gender-inclusive.... There are other
occasions where the original language is male-oriented, but not
intentionally so. (&lt;em&gt;New Living Translation&lt;/em&gt;, 1996 edition; Introduction)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt; The gender violence done Scripture by the &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt; at least had the virtue of complete disclosure. So we took the &lt;em&gt;NLT&lt;/em&gt;
translators at their word, that it was only gender markings related to
the generic Hebrew 'adam' (man) they wanted to obscure or delete. Well
we were wrong. And why are we surprised to learn this, given the
intensity of our culture's hatred for anything smacking of
anti-Semitism?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It's not surprising the &lt;em&gt;New Living Translation&lt;/em&gt; did not stop
with muting the patriarchalism of Scripture, but also muted the texts
which have been accused by Jews of leading Christians to call them
&amp;quot;Christ-killers.&amp;quot; The same men who saw nothing wrong with &amp;quot;muting
patriarchalism&amp;quot; are unlikely to see anything wrong with muting
&amp;quot;Ioudaios&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Ioudaiois.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It never ceases to amaze how men of impeccable evangelical scholarly
credentials think nothing of changing thousands of words in Scripture
in order to diffuse or hide the language of patriarchy or purported
anti-Semitism. Yet at the same time these same men see no need to cash
in their inerrancy credentials. And tragically, no one has the courage
to tell them they ought to do so.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Stop and think for a moment: if the Holy Spirit meant to say &amp;quot;Jewish
religious leaders,&amp;quot; would He not have breathed &amp;quot;scribes and Pharisees&amp;quot;
or some similar construction as He has done in so many other New
Testament passages? When there are so numerous places in the New
Testament where what the Holy Spirit has inspired is the equivalent of
the &lt;em&gt;NLT's&lt;/em&gt; &amp;quot;Jewish religious leaders,&amp;quot; is it not imperative to
communicate that, for instance, in John 10:31-32 this is most decidedly
NOT what He breathed? Similarly, look at John 1:19; 2:18; 5:10; 5:15;
5:16; 5:18; 7:1,2... Then notice other places where Jewish markings
have entirely disappeared from the NLT: John 2:13; 2:20; 3:1; 6:41;
6:52; 7:2....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is no logical end to this censoring of God's Holy Spirit. Once
we set ourselves up as authorities over the Word of God, thinking that
we can communicate more accurately the meaning of the Holy Spirit by
hiding His words, we rightly come under God's judgment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;* * *&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(This post was originally published in 2004. For a number of books and articles that rightly divide the Word
of Truth on these matters, check out our congregations' web ministry, &lt;a href="http://www.keptthefaith.org/"&gt;KepttheFaith.org&lt;/a&gt; edited by David's Associate Pastor, Andrew Dionne. Also, &lt;a href="http://www.banneroftruth.org/pages/articles/article_detail.php?282"&gt;here's an article&lt;/a&gt; dealing with this subject that I wrote for the Banner of Truth web site.)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


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<category>Bible translation</category>
<category>Discernment</category>
<category>Evangelicalism</category>
<category>Feminism</category>
<category>Feminization of discourse</category>

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<description>(Tim) Zondervan is the publishing company that has licensed, printed, taken to market, and aggressively promoted Today's New International Version, a bowdlerized form of Scripture in which the original Greek and Hebrew has been amended in order to appease and...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim) &lt;/em&gt;Zondervan is the publishing company that has licensed, printed, taken to market, and aggressively promoted &lt;em&gt;Today's New International Version&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/bible_translation/index.html"&gt;a bowdlerized form of Scripture&lt;/a&gt; in which the original Greek and Hebrew has been amended in order to appease and mollify feminists. The &lt;em&gt;TNIV&lt;/em&gt; is popular among the hipsters leading the Submergent church.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It's somewhat ironic then that Zondervan was just hit with &lt;a href="http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/man_sues_bible_publishers/2008/07/10/111626.html"&gt;a lawsuit&lt;/a&gt; filed by a man who is a sodomite and claims Zondervan's Bibles' treatment of sodomy has caused him great emotional injury. The lawsuit isn't likely to get far at this early date, but it led Zondervan to issue a press release defending their Bibles as follows:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We rely on the scholarly judgment of the highly respected and
credible translation committees behind each translation and never alter
the text of the translations we are licensed to publish. We only publish credible translations produced by credible Biblical scholars.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Highly respected&amp;quot; indeed. Their heavy use of 'credible' is telling, isn't it?&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


<category>Bible translation</category>
<category>Sodomy</category>

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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:34:43 -0400</pubDate>

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<description>(Tim, w/thanks to David) Well actually, I don't know his name, but he caused Sodomite Gene Robinson's sermon in an Anglican church in England to grind to a halt by calling the bad Bishop to "Repent! Repent! Repent! I stand...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim, w/thanks to David)&lt;/em&gt; Well actually, I don't know his name, but he caused Sodomite Gene Robinson's sermon in an Anglican church in England to grind to a halt by calling the bad Bishop to &amp;quot;Repent! Repent! Repent! I stand on the Word of God! Repent!&amp;quot; &lt;em&gt;(See link below.)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why is this wicked Episcopal bishop over in England preaching just now?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Archbishop Rowan Williams is presiding over the once-a-decade Anglican meeting of bishops known as the Lambeth Conference held in Canterbury. He's invited almost all the 800 Anglican bishops worldwide. Only a few were barred from attending. One of them--the most significant one--is Bishop Gene Robinson who the United States Anglican communion known as the Episcopal Church elevated to the bishopric despite his being an unrepentant sodomite. After his elevation, the first person to greet him in the chancel area as a part of the liturgy was his sodomite lover, followed by his ex-wife and two adult daughters.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Trouble is, by far the largest part of the Anglican communion today is in the Southern Hemisphere and, being somewhat backward, African and Central and South American, and even Australian, bishops and archbishops are scandalized by this heresy and threatening or carrying out schism. (Well, actually, not schism; it's impossible to be guilty of schism when you're separating from those who bless sodomy and elevate sodomites into the bishopric. Really, it's church discipline, but from the bottom up which is not the way things ordinarily are supposed to go.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But back to the Archbishop of Canterbury His Grace Dr. Rowan Williams. He's in an awkward position...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It's sort of a north-south thing, and the hostilities have escalated
to the point where he must take a position one way or another. And so
he has, choosing to exclude Bishop Gene Robinson from Lambeth. Of
course, you must understand that in no way is he to be understood to be
judging the man or the American Episcopal Church for promoting sodomy.
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So what crime is the basis for the exclusion? The crime of being divisive.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Really, in his masterpiece, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00150GHF6?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;creativeASIN=B00150GHF6"&gt;The Closing of the American Mind&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;img width="1" height="1" border="0" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B00150GHF6" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important;" /&gt;, Allan
Bloom was right in saying that the only law left in the Western world
is the law that everyone must do what is necessary to get along with
each other. So Archbishop Rowan Williams has a choice: He can side with
the masses of Anglicans from the Southern Hemisphere who refuse to be a
part of a church that puts sodomites into the office of bishop; or he
can side with his own Northern Hemisphere communions who have used the
Holy Name of God to promote birth control, abortion, unbiblical
divorce, adultery, and now sodomy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Tough choice for the Archbishop of Canterbury. With his hand forced, he excludes the bad Bishop Gene Robinson from Lambeth.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
But note, it's not the sin of sodomy that caused Rowan Williams to give
in to exclusivity. Rather, it's the sin of being too progressive
without waiting for the backward and ignorant Southern Hemisphere
Anglicans to catch up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Yes, I know no one has ever said they're ignorant. Nor backward. Nor
explicitly that it's just a matter of waiting a while so they can catch
up. But I thought it would be helpful to say explicitly what has been
implied all over the place for years, now.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
So, &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7504472.stm"&gt;leave it to a long-hair riding a motorbike&lt;/a&gt;--by
decades the youngest man in the sanctuary--to call the bad Bishop to
repent. And what irony that the congregation tries to silence this
young prophet first by clapping, and then, as he's man-handled out of the sanctuary, singing:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;
Thine is the glory, risen, conqu’ring Son;&lt;br /&gt;

Endless is the victory, Thou o’er death hast won...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


<category>Africa</category>
<category>Church discipline</category>
<category>Courage</category>
<category>Helpful things</category>
<category>Sodomy</category>

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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:43:35 -0400</pubDate>

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<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim, w/thanks to James)&lt;/em&gt; Friends, &lt;a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/news/religion/20080710_Bible_professor_suspended_over_teachings.html"&gt;here's one&lt;/a&gt; to keep your eyes on. David and I believe the training of pastors is best done in the context of the local church, but if we were asked which seminaries we believe hold true to biblical faith, Westminster Theological Seminary would make the short list.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, though, they have a professor who has written things that call his commitment to the authority and plenary verbal inspiration of Scripture into question. After suspending him from teaching, they're investigating the matter formally.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lots of sheep think the seminary's action is scandalous. You know, criticisms of the &amp;quot;Don't you idiots know that the church has repented of heresy trials?&amp;quot; sort. Well, there you have it: &amp;quot;No heresy any more,&amp;quot; say the sheep, &amp;quot;so don't bother guarding us--we don't need your care.&amp;quot; How David and I thank God for allowing us to serve congregations who love us precisely because we seek to guard them as the Apostle Paul exhorted the elders of Ephesus to guard their own congregation, warning them: &amp;quot;From among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them&amp;quot; (Acts 20:30). Further, our congregations have chosen elders who share in that work with us, rather than seeking to silence this aspect of our (and their) calling. What joy!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This past week, I finished Calvin's letter to Cardinal Sadoleto. Let me end the post with this excerpt:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;...the miserable condition into which the Church had fallen was owing to nothing more than to its enervation by luxury and indulgence. For the body of the Church, to cohere well, must be bound together by discipline as with sinews.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</content:encoded>


<category>Academia</category>
<category>Bible interpretation</category>
<category>Church discipline</category>
<category>Reformed world</category>
<category>Training pastors/seminary</category>

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<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:02:42 -0400</pubDate>

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<description>(Tim, w/thanks to Kamilla and Dawn Eden) Mike Wallace was doing interviews back in 1957 sponsored by the Philip Morris Company. Courtesy of the Harry Ransom Center of University of Texas, Austin, here's an interview with Margaret Sanger, patron saint...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim, w/thanks to Kamilla and Dawn Eden)&lt;/em&gt; Mike Wallace was doing interviews back in 1957 sponsored by the Philip Morris Company. Courtesy of the Harry Ransom Center of University of Texas, Austin, &lt;a href="http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/multimedia/video/2008/wallace/sanger_margaret_t.html"&gt;here's an interview&lt;/a&gt; with Margaret Sanger, patron saint of Planned Parenthood and its scholarly cover organization, the Alan Guttmacher Institute. To whet your appetite, here's an excerpt:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;* * *&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="transtext"&gt;MIKE WALLACE: What are your religious beliefs, Mrs. Sanger? Do you believe
in God in the sense of a Divine Being -- who rewards or punishes people
after death?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MARGARET SANGER: Well, I have a different attitude about--the divine--I feel
that we have divinity within us, and the more we express the good part
of our lives, the more the divine within us expresses itself.I suppose
I would call myself an Episcopalian by religion and there's a--many
other, if you travel around the world you get quite a bit of the
feeling of all--all religions--have so much alike in the divine part of
our own being. And I suppose you just couldn't just put that into a
book or you couldn't put it to a phrase or a sentence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
WALLACE: Do you believe in sin -- When I say believe I don't mean
believe in committing sin do you believe there is such a thing as a sin?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
SANGER: I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into
the world--that have disease from their parents, that have no chance in
the world to be a human being practically. Delinquents, prisoners, all
sorts of things just marked when they're born. That to me is the
greatest sin -- that people can -- can commit...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="transtext"&gt;

WALLACE: But sin in the ordinary sense that we regard it -- do you believe or do you not believe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

SANGER: What-what would they be?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

WALLACE: Do you believe infidelity is a sin?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

SANGER: Well, I'm not going to specify what I think is a sin. I stated what I think is the worst sin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

WALLACE: Yes, but then you asked me to say what--and I said what and ah--you refuse to answer me?&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
SANGER: I don't know about infidelity, that has many personalities to
it--and what a person's own belief is--you can't, I couldn't generalize
on any of those things as being sins.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

WALLACE: Murder is a sin... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

SANGER: Well, I naturally think murder, whether it's a sin or not, is a terrible act.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


<category>Abortion, euthanasia...</category>
<category>Children are a blessing</category>
<category>Feminism</category>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:20:53 -0400</pubDate>

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<description>(Tim) Within a number of reformed denominations holding to the Westminster Standards, we have men who seem not to have a heart for opposing the heresy of feminism. To work to reform this reality, we would do well to ask...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim)&lt;/em&gt; Within a number of reformed denominations holding to the &lt;em&gt;Westminster Standards&lt;/em&gt;, we have men who seem not to have a heart for opposing the heresy of feminism. To work to reform this reality, we would do well to ask several questions on the floor of presbytery of candidates for ordination. Here are a couple that might serve the purpose.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;First, we might ask, &amp;quot;Do you believe it's a faithful summary of the Biblical doctrine of sexuality to say, as many have said publicly in our denomination, that 'a woman may do anything a non-ordained man may do?'&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If the man responds, &amp;quot;Yes&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Maybe,&amp;quot; it's clear he's either woefully uninformed or opposed to the Biblical doctrine of sexuality and has no heart for opposing this heresy even though he likely knows he can't advocate women elders or senior pastors. Certainly no prior father of the Church would recognize this as a faithful summary of Scripture's teaching. They would be left scratching their heads.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If he says &amp;quot;No, I don't think that's a good summary of Scripture's doctrine&amp;quot; we ought to be encouraged, but still, we're not yet finished.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The first follow-up question could be: &amp;quot;Will you require the bride to repeat, as part of her marriage vow, the historic Biblical promise to &amp;quot;obey&amp;quot; her husband in those marriage ceremonies at which you officiate?&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If he says &amp;quot;No,&amp;quot; our work is cut out for us. If he says &amp;quot;Yes,&amp;quot; we're still not finished...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The second follow-up question could be: &amp;quot;Do you believe our &lt;em&gt;Standards&lt;/em&gt;
are correct in pointing out that vows are prohibited by Scripture that seek to bypass the authority of a husband over his wife?&amp;quot; Then, it may be helpful to cite the &lt;em&gt;Confession&lt;/em&gt; and its (subordinate) Scripture proof simply by way of explanation of the question.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
If he says &amp;quot;No,&amp;quot; again, it may be he has no ability to oppose this
heresy, although it could simply be a matter of his need of
instruction. He may be teachable and grow into a faithful guardian of
the good deposit. But there remains one final question.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Finally, he could be asked, &amp;quot;Do you believe that the Biblical doctrine
of father-rule extends beyond the Covenant community, beyond the
Christian Church and family, to all spheres of life?&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
If he says &amp;quot;Yes,&amp;quot; we're finished. He has demonstrated a faithful
understanding of Scripture as it would be tossed off with no sweat on
the brow by all previous generations of fathers in the Faith.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
If he says &amp;quot;No,&amp;quot; we should follow up by asking if he believes other aspects of the pre-Fall, Creation order are also to be applied to the
People of God, only? Heterosexual marriage? Life-long marriage? Monogamous marriage?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Explaining our question, we could point out all aspects of God's
Creation order stand or fall together. If we
understand all of them were established by God in
the state of perfection in the Garden of Eden, we'll confidence in proclaiming their beauty and calling men to repentance for their unbelief, leading them to
Gospel grace.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Of course, at that point presbyteries in the north or metro areas may get impatient and some of our fellow elders may do everything possible to stifle &amp;quot;this inquisition.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
In time, though, if this sort of faithful defense of the Faith were
carried out when a candidate for ordination was examined, the Church would grow in faith. Also, I
believe it would grow numerically--principally by the addition of
young men and women who have not yet been habituated to feminism's untouchable status in the Church and whose hearts ache for Scripture's Truth.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Defending this doctrine is no effort to repristinate the past or to hedge up male perquisites. It is love of God. It is true love of Christ's Bride. It is love for the lost. And do I really need to say it? It is true love and compassion for&amp;nbsp; women.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;* * *&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;After posting this, I read it to my wife. When I was finished, I asked her, &amp;quot;What do you think?&amp;quot;

&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;She said, &amp;quot;It's good, but people will hate it.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Really?&amp;quot; I asked.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;She laughed and said, &amp;quot;You're an idiot.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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<category>Church officers</category>
<category>Feminism</category>
<category>PCA</category>
<category>Reformed theology</category>
<category>Weddings</category>
<category>Woman deacons</category>

<dc:creator>David &amp; Tim Bayly</dc:creator>
<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:57:28 -0400</pubDate>

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<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim)&lt;/em&gt; Doubting, I tell myself that, if I were righteous, I could take comfort from this Psalm. But alas, I am not. I look at my heart and my sin overwhelms me. And yet, there is One Who is my righteousness, Whose robes are spotless and reserved for sinners who receive Him by faith. Oh how deep are the riches of the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ! How kind and patient is our God! Come Lord Jesus--quickly! Bring us peace.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;* * *&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(A Psalm of David.)&lt;/em&gt; Do not fret because of evildoers, Be not envious toward wrongdoers. For they will wither quickly like the grass, And fade like the green herb. Trust in the LORD, and do good; Dwell in the land and cultivate faithfulness. Delight yourself in the LORD; And He will give you the desires of your heart. Commit your way to the LORD, Trust also in Him, and He will do it. And He will bring forth your righteousness as the light, And your judgment as the noonday.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rest in the LORD and wait patiently for Him; Do not fret because of him who prospers in his way, Because of the man who carries out wicked schemes. Cease from anger, and forsake wrath; Do not fret, it leads only to evildoing. For evildoers will be cut off, But those who wait for the LORD, they will inherit the land. Yet a little while and the wicked man will be no more; And you will look carefully for his place, and he will not be there. But the humble will inherit the land, And will delight themselves in abundant prosperity...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The wicked plots against the righteous, And gnashes at him with his
teeth. The Lord laughs at him; For He sees his day is coming. The
wicked have drawn the sword and bent their bow, To cast down the
afflicted and the needy, To slay those who are upright in conduct.
Their sword will enter their own heart, And their bows will be broken.
Better is the little of the righteous Than the abundance of many
wicked. For the arms of the wicked will be broken; But the LORD
sustains the righteous. The LORD knows the days of the blameless; And
their inheritance will be forever. They will not be ashamed in the time
of evil; And in the days of famine they will have abundance. But the
wicked will perish; And the enemies of the LORD will be like the glory
of the pastures, They vanish--like smoke they vanish away.

&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The wicked borrows and does not pay back, But the righteous is
gracious and gives. For those blessed by Him will inherit the land; But
those cursed by Him will be cut off. The steps of a man are established
by the LORD; And He delights in his way. When he falls, he shall not be
hurled headlong; Because the LORD is the One who holds his hand. I have
been young, and now I am old; Yet I have not seen the righteous
forsaken, Or his descendants begging bread. All day long he is gracious
and lends; And his descendants are a blessing. Depart from evil, and do
good, So you will abide forever. For the LORD loves justice, And does
not forsake His godly ones; They are preserved forever; But the
descendants of the wicked will be cut off. The righteous will inherit
the land, And dwell in it forever. The mouth of the righteous utters
wisdom, And his tongue speaks justice. The law of his God is in his
heart; His steps do not slip. The wicked spies upon the righteous, And
seeks to kill him. The LORD will not leave him in his hand, Or let him
be condemned when he is judged.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wait for the LORD, and keep His way, And He will exalt you to
inherit the land; When the wicked are cut off, you will see it. I have
seen a violent, wicked man Spreading himself like a luxuriant tree in
its native soil. Then he passed away, and lo, he was no more; I sought
for him, but he could not be found. Mark the blameless man, and behold
the upright; For the man of peace will have a posterity. But
transgressors will be altogether destroyed; The posterity of the wicked
will be cut off. But the salvation of the righteous is from the LORD;
He is their strength in time of trouble. And the LORD helps them, and
delivers them; He delivers them from the wicked, and saves them,
Because they take refuge in Him. (Psalm 37)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


<category>Faith</category>
<category>Holiness</category>

<dc:creator>David &amp; Tim Bayly</dc:creator>
<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:05:32 -0400</pubDate>

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<description>(Tim, w/thanks to Valerie) You've all been waiting for a copy of Dad's classic, The Gospel Blimp, in comic book form, right? Well, dream no more.</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim, w/thanks to Valerie)&lt;/em&gt; You've all been waiting for a copy of Dad's classic, &lt;em&gt;The Gospel Blimp&lt;/em&gt;, in comic book form, right? Well, &lt;a href="http://www.carpsplace.com/spire/Gospel%20Blimp.pdf"&gt;dream no more&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;a href="&amp;lt;http://www.carpsplace.com/spire/Gospel%20Blimp.pdf&amp;gt;http://www.carpsplace.com/spire/Gospel%20Blimp.pdf"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


<category>Evangelism</category>

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<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:26:46 -0400</pubDate>

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<description>(Tim) My friend, David Talcott, writes: * * * Certain parts of the American and European elite class have taken to telling us to reduce our energy and food consumption in order to make sure everyone has enough. But, their...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;(Tim) My friend, David Talcott, writes:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;* * *&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Certain parts of the American and European elite class have taken to telling us to reduce our energy and food consumption in order to make sure everyone has enough. But, their talk doesn't match their walk. Al Gore has been hit over this since his &lt;a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp"&gt;home&lt;/a&gt; uses over 10x that of an average American home. Yesterday the &lt;em&gt;Telegraph&lt;/em&gt; reported that the G8 Summit, hosted by Japan, &lt;a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/2262534/G8-summit-Gordon-Brown-has-eight-course-dinner-before-food-crisis-talks.html"&gt;served&lt;/a&gt; a 6-course lunch and 8-course dinner to world leaders who were meeting for talks on the world food crisis.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;* * *&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Check out these additional links &lt;a href="http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=764"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121400301547793343.html?mod=opinion_journal_political_diary"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://newsbusters.org/node/10951"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (the transcript from the Sean Hannity show dealing with former VP Gore's private jet travel), and (this one's priceless) &lt;a href="http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=548"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


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<description>(Tim: Titled The Shame of Alfred Kinsey, this ran December 3, 2004 as a guest editorial in Bloomington's Herald Times.) The late Allan Bloom was an Indianapolis native who served as professor at University of Chicago. In The Closing of...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim: Titled &lt;/em&gt;The Shame of Alfred Kinsey&lt;em&gt;, this ran December 3, 2004 as a guest editorial in Bloomington's &lt;a href="http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/htoopinion/"&gt;Herald Times&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/em&gt; 

&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The late Allan Bloom was an Indianapolis native who served as professor at University of Chicago. In &lt;em&gt;The Closing of the American Mind&lt;/em&gt;,
Bloom lamented the destruction divorce caused his students. Noting that
parents often used therapists to help their children cope, Bloom wrote,
&amp;quot;Psychologists are the sworn enemies of guilt.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If therapists are the sworn enemies of guilt, sex researchers are
the sworn enemies of shame-with IU's Alfred C. Kinsey leading the pack.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although hired by IU as a zoologist, in 1938 Kinsey contrived to
land a job lecturing engaged and married seniors on &amp;quot;biology.&amp;quot; He ended
the course by taking his students' sexual histories.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kinsey spent the rest of his academic career conducting these
interviews and disseminating the data. He was convinced that
publicizing peoples' private sexual lives would usher in a more
peaceful age devoid of shame and inhibition.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But his efforts did not bring the dawn of Aquarian freedom...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rather, one set of negative consequences was exchanged for another.
The fruitful discipline of true morality was exchanged for the
fruitless bondage of false morality. The Biblical law codified
throughout the Western world over many centuries was exchanged for
infinitely smaller and petty laws.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So today, instead of community pressure being brought to bear
against adulterers and sodomites, it's brought to bear against those
condemning such crimes. Freedom is shrinking as IU's diversity
advocates and the Bloomington City Council's Human Rights Commission
use shame as a disciplinary tool against innocent souls caught in the
act of expressing disapproval of sexual perversion. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Pity the poor widow who conscientiously declines to rent her
upstairs apartment to an unmarried couple. She will soon learn what G.
K. Chesterton warned of: &amp;quot;When you break the big laws, you do not get
freedom; you do not even get anarchy. You get the small laws.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Motivated by the love of their neighbors, godly citizens work to
oppose the sin destroying homes, marriages, and souls, but find their
convictions censored and their motives smeared as &amp;quot;hatred.&amp;quot; And the
civil authority joins in the oppression by, for instance, using
citizens' tax dollars to provide support for the local baby-killing
organization, Planned Parenthood. The biblical prophet, Isaiah, spoke
of this day:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who
substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; ...who are wise
in their own eyes (and) take away the rights of the ones who are in the
right. (Isaiah 5:20 ff.). &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since Kinsey first began to expose men's secrets, incest, domestic
violence, divorce, the poverty rate of women and children, and deaths
due to sexually transmitted diseases have all increased dramatically.
But no one seems to notice. At the recent Bloomington premier of the
biopic, &lt;em&gt;Kinsey&lt;/em&gt;, partygoers making a donation of $1,000 were
granted the privilege of hobnobbing with the filmmakers at a private
reception where Kinsey was feted.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When the Kinsey Report was released in 1948, noted anthropologist Margaret Mead critiqued it:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In every society sex patterns depend on a careful and
meticulous balance between ignorance and knowledge, sophistication and
navet. (The Kinsey Report) has upset the balance ...between the things
we don't mention, and the things we do. And it may be expected to have
considerable effect in our society for that reason. Quite a good deal
of our virtue has depended upon people not knowing what other people
were doing... In the past, it was said, &amp;quot;It is better to marry than to
burn.&amp;quot; Now we translate (the verse), &amp;quot;It is better to have an outlet of
some sort, because you've got to have an outlet of some sort.&amp;quot; ...so
it's just a question of which outlet and (Kinsey) suggests no way of
choosing between a woman and a sheep. (&lt;em&gt;Footnote 1&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Two weeks ago the following invitation was circulated here at Indiana University:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;SLAG is pleased to announce that Will Stockton will be
presenting &amp;quot;The Normalization of Bestiality: Kinsey's Analysis of Human
Sexual Contact with Animals&amp;quot; ...at the next brown-bag colloquium
(Friday, November 19 at 12:10 pm in Indiana University's Ballantine
Hall, Room 221). (Stockton's paper) explores Alfred Kinsey's assertion
that bestiality, rather than being &amp;quot;a strange perversion of human
affection,&amp;quot; is actually &amp;quot;part of the normal mammalian picture&amp;quot; of human
psychosexual development.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kinsey was no hero. Those who think he was demonstrate no love, but
hatred of sexuality's God-given beauty. So now we've arrived at the
day when men no longer know why they ought to choose a woman instead of
a sheep.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And the band plays on.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;* * *&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Footnote 1&lt;/em&gt;: Margaret Mead, &amp;quot;An Anthropologist Looks at the Kinsey Report,&amp;quot; in &lt;em&gt;Child and Family&lt;/em&gt;, vol. 18, no. 4, 1979; pp. 294-303.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


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<category>Culture</category>
<category>Politics</category>
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<description>(Tim) Tim Keller's coming out with another book titled, The Prodigal God. Unlike his last book written for unbelievers, Pastor Keller says this one's addressed to Christians. From Alex Chediak's blog, here's an interview with Pastor Keller. Below the interview,...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim)&lt;/em&gt; Tim Keller's coming out with another book titled, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0525950796?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0525950796"&gt;The Prodigal God&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. Unlike &lt;a href="&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0525950494?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0525950494&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The Reason for God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0525950494&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; alt=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;"&gt;his last book&lt;/a&gt; written for unbelievers, Pastor Keller says this one's addressed to Christians. From Alex Chediak's blog, &lt;a href="http://www.alexchediak.com/blog/2008/06/brief_interview_with_tim_kelle.php"&gt;here's&lt;/a&gt; an interview with Pastor Keller. Below the interview, Steve Camp comments about Pastor Keller's use of the word 'prodigal' to refer to God.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Similar comments caused Pastor Keller to give &lt;a href="http://www.alexchediak.com/blog/2008/07/tim_keller_on_the_title_the_pr.php"&gt;this explanation&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The word ‘prodigal’ is an English word that means recklessly
extravagant, spending to the point of poverty, of ‘being in want’ (Luke
15:14.) The dictionaries tell us that the word can be understood in a
more negative or a more positive sense. The more positive meaning is to
be lavishly and sacrificially abundant in giving. The more negative
sense, is to be wasteful and irresponsible in one’s spending. The
negative sense obviously applies to the actions of the younger brother
in the Luke 15 parable of the two sons. But is there any sense in which
God can be called ‘Prodigal’?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dropping the discussion on Alex Chediak's blog, Steve Camp &lt;a href="http://stevenjcamp.blogspot.com/2008/06/prodigal-god.html"&gt;moved it to his own&lt;/a&gt;
for continuation. I think Steve Camp's concerns are legitimate,
although I'm not sure had I been the editor I'd have forced a title
change. Seems to me Helmut Thielicke's title, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006AVXY6?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;creativeASIN=B0006AVXY6"&gt;The Waiting Father&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
(a superb book, by the way), is even more effective. In the discussion,
those souls who try to strong-arm Steve to silence strike me either as
intentionally obtuse or as possessing only an elementary understanding
of language--something you could never say about Pastor Keller.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Other well-known Christian writers have been intentionally risque
with their language...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Think of Phil Yancey's &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/031021436X?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;creativeASIN=031021436X"&gt;Disappointment with God&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;img width="1" height="1" border="0" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=031021436X" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important;" /&gt;, and John Piper's &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590521196?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1590521196"&gt;Meditations of a Christian Hedonist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width="1" height="1" border="0" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1590521196" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important;" /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. The phraseology of each of these
three men has been chosen with an eye to giving the reader a jolt,
hoping that jolt will move him away from the stultifying complacency of
evangelical Christianity long enough to allow him to hear Biblical truths that might otherwise be beyond his capacity.


&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Today, when we want to say what Pastor Keller means by
his archaism 'prodigal' while avoiding its pejorative connotation, we use the word 'extravagant'. Maybe
a better discussion would be whether the
extravagance of God's love or His judgment is the message Christians are most resistant to?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In other words, a book better-suited to the church's need of the hour might be &lt;em&gt;The Bloodthirsty God&lt;/em&gt;, detailing His hatred of sin and
the horrors of the judgment He revealed to the Apostle John, and commanded him to record for us in his &lt;em&gt;Apocalypse&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


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<description>(Tim) Church of the Good Shepherd is having a grand opening this Saturday, July 12th, and we're calling it The Box Bash. (Here's the web site--beautiful work, Ben!) Here's our ad: Come to the Box Bash! A community carnival and...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://nebti5.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/10/boxbash_118.jpg"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://nebti5.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/10/boxbash_118.jpg" title="Boxbash_118" alt="Boxbash_118" class="image-full" style="margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px; float: left; width: 294px; height: 455px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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Church of the Good Shepherd is having a grand opening this Saturday, July 12th, and we're calling it The Box Bash. (&lt;a href="http://boxbash.com/index.html"&gt;Here's&lt;/a&gt; the web site--beautiful work, Ben!) Here's our ad:&lt;/p&gt;





&lt;p&gt;Come to the Box Bash!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A community carnival and concert for everyone, festivities will begin at&amp;nbsp; 3 PM. There will be a free dinner at 6 and a free concert at 7. Fun for Everyone!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Free food, a live concert with the Good Shepherd Band, the Dunk-a-Pastor Dunking Booth, Dangerous Boys Shooting Gallery, Face Painting, Wii Knockout, Horseshoes, Free-Throw Shootout, the Baker Boys' Double-Jeopardy Trivia Challenge, and so much more!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It's all happening at Church of the Good Shepherd, 2501 South Endwright Road (across from Karst Farm Park).&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p&gt;The concert will feature our own Good Shepherd Band, including live covers of
Cake, Radiohead, Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;COME ONE, COME ALL!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=23071345637"&gt;3Here's&lt;/a&gt; the Facebook page. And here's our alternative text, &lt;a href="http://calendar.bloomingtonscene.com/?act=evdet&amp;amp;eid=21317"&gt;posted&lt;/a&gt; on Bloomington's community calendar, &lt;em&gt;The Scene&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Box Bash, named after our new, gloriously square-shaped church
building, is a community carnival and concert for everyone. The fun
festivities will begin at 3 PM. We'll have everything from bean-bag
toss to face painting, gun shoot to crafts. Have you ever wanted to hit
the bulls-eye and dunk Pastor Tim Bayly into a pool of cool water? This
is your chance! Around 6 PM we'll have a cookout with a nice, FREE hot
dog dinner. Afterwards The Good Shepherd Band will be performing some
assorted rock covers for our entertainment. Again, the event is for the
whole community so bring your friends, family, and neighbors.
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<description>(Tim, w/thanks to someone) If I've been unfair to Senator Obama in saying he's bloodthirsty, this interview will make the case as well as it can be made in a once-over-lightly-and-no-follow-up-questions interview. By all accounts, he's the most liberal senator...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim, w/thanks to someone)&lt;/em&gt; If I've been unfair to Senator Obama in saying he's bloodthirsty, &lt;a href="http://www.relevantmagazine.com/life_article.php?id=7591"&gt;this interview&lt;/a&gt; will make the case as well as it can be made in a once-over-lightly-and-no-follow-up-questions interview. By all accounts, he's the most liberal senator serving in the United States Senate today, and he advocates abortion--for his own daughters, no less. &lt;a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18647"&gt;Read this&lt;/a&gt; over at &lt;em&gt;Human Events&lt;/em&gt; for the history Senator Obama calls a &amp;quot;lie.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So no, I don't think Senator Obama's responses here tell much of the story. No one thinks the Senator is stupid. So when he was interviewed, here, by Cameron Strang, publisher of--can you dig that title?--&lt;em&gt;Relevant&lt;/em&gt; magazine, we can be sure he knew his audience. Still, in the interest of full disclosure...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the way: &lt;em&gt;Christianity Today&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Relevant&lt;/em&gt;? What a pair. So up-to-date.&lt;/p&gt;

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<category>Abortion, euthanasia...</category>
<category>Barack Obama</category>
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<description>(Tim) Just before Dad died, we had dinner together at a restaurant. The occasion was later in the evening after Dad had defended the anti-abortion position (he preferred "anti-abortion" to "pro-life") at a forum on abortion held on the campus...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim)&lt;/em&gt; Just before Dad died, we had dinner together at a restaurant. The occasion was later in the evening after Dad had defended the anti-abortion position (he preferred &amp;quot;anti-abortion&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;pro-life&amp;quot;) at a forum on abortion held on the campus of Wheaton College. Some woman whose name escapes me did the pro-baby-slaughter thing--as a Christian, of course. As I recall, Dad was invited after they couldn't find anyone on campus who was willing to take the biblical position.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dad did an admirable job and I was proud to be his son as we ate together later that night, father and son.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;During the meal, I asked Dad what he thought about armed rebellion to end abortion?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;He said he didn't think it was right.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I asked, &amp;quot;Why? We celebrate the Fourth of July, which means we
endorse armed rebellion to end financial oppression. Wasn't the battle
cry of the Revolutionary War, 'No taxation without representation?'
Maybe, as Christians, we shouldn't support the Revolutionary War or a
war to end abortion. That position would have some consistency. But to
celebrate the Fourth of July and oppose armed rebellion to end the
slaughter of millions of little babies? I don't get it.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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<description>(Tim) Since the decline of his health about a year ago, requiring him to move in with his daughter, leaving Washington D.C. behind, my favorite columnist on American culture and politics, Joe Sobran, has been on hiatus. His articles are...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim) &lt;/em&gt;Since the decline of his health about a year ago, requiring him to move in with his daughter, leaving Washington D.C. behind, my favorite columnist on American culture and politics, Joe Sobran, has been on hiatus. His articles are few and far between, about every three months, now, and I've missed him quite a bit. So it was a happy day, today, when a new column arrived--this one on our recurrent theme of why Senator Obama rocks, as hip, chic, submergent types see it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For my money, the keys needed to unlock the submergent church scene are chronological snobbery--after all, they are chrysalises emerging from the slime of our patriarchal, authoritarian, institutional roots--and they hate authority. Thus their support for Senator Obama. He's new, he's about change; what's not to like?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But of course, neither Arcbishop McLaren nor Cardinal Obama are about change, not to even the slightest degree. They're carbon copies of one another. They're both relentlessly superficial, adroit, and non-Christian, in lockstep with our superficial, adroit, and non-Christian information class. Why bother faulting them with wanting to be on the winning side? It's positively democratic, isn't it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I do fault them with claiming originality in their consummately predictable, boring opinions. Sobran says it so much better...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Reactionary Utopian&lt;br /&gt;July 3, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Obama and Abortion&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;by Joe Sobran&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;
What is he really saying?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Barack Obama, that gourmet among dung beetles, appeals strongly
to the sort of smug people I used to find mildly irritating when I was
in college --
the sort who wore lapel buttons bearing such bold messages as &amp;quot;Question
authority&amp;quot;
or &amp;quot;I read banned books.&amp;quot; In America, everything is mass-produced,
including
non-conformity, and these buttons were a standard part of every young
non-conformist's uniform. The most comically egregious of these
&amp;quot;non-conformists&amp;quot; were the hippies of
the late Sixties.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You know the type: I think it was the art critic
Harold Rosenberg, who
memorably dubbed them &amp;quot;the herd of independent minds.&amp;quot; They confirm
Samuel
Johnson's witty remark that most people's opinions are &amp;quot;not propagated
by reason,
but caught by contagion.&amp;quot; One of the marks of this breed is an
unconscious
predictability, a certainty that one has achieved one's own views,
however trite
they may be, without the assistance of any Authority.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...They are passive yet passionate agents of fashion. As G.K.
Chesterton
puts it: &amp;quot;There is everywhere the habit of assuming certain things, in
the sense
of not even imagining the opposite things.&amp;quot; He explains: &amp;quot;The thing I
mean is a
man's inability to state his opponent's view, and often his inability
even to state his own.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Small children often have highly original
thoughts, and one of the
purposes of education is to correct them early, before originality
reaches the
point of heresy or psychosis. A wise Christian, George MacDonald,
notes:
&amp;quot;Our Lord never thought of being original.&amp;quot; Amen. Jesus said the truth
will
make us free. He said nothing about being &amp;quot;original,&amp;quot; or clever, or
eloquent...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;* * *&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sad to say, this column isn't yet available, publicly. Only subscribers to Sobran's &amp;quot;Reactionary Utopian&amp;quot; &lt;a href="http://www.sobran.com/sobran.com/columns/archive.shtml"&gt;e-subscription service&lt;/a&gt; may read it in its entirety. Still, I hope these few paragraphs demonstrated what you're missing...
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<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim)&lt;/em&gt; Back in 1987, I found this comment about Ronald Reagan's 1984 presidential campaign interesting enough that I filed it for future reference. If this is what they had to say about Ronald Reagan, imagine what they could do with Barack Obama's &amp;quot;Time for Change&amp;quot; were they so inclined. But of course, they aren't.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The 1984 Reagan campaign ad from TV with the line &amp;quot;It’s morning in America again,&amp;quot; …conjures up pure atmosphere rather than any specific political aim or accomplishment. It refers to feeling good rather than to doing anything good--not to mention being good. (In our culture, the swift decline in recent years of the idea of &amp;quot;guilt,&amp;quot; as an unwelcome leftover from our Puritan legacy, seems to have been followed in short order by a less noticed decline in the idea of accomplishment.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, a notable characteristic of feeling good (or of feeling bad, for that matter) is its very loose connection with anything outside the one doing the feeling. (“Notes and Comment”, &lt;em&gt;The New Yorker&lt;/em&gt;, January 19, 1987)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</content:encoded>


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<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;Out of the kindness of our church and her elders, Mary Lee and I are away on a two-week study leave for me to work on completing a book tentatively titled, &lt;em&gt;How To Choose a Church: Lessons from the Apostolic Church in Jerusalem&lt;/em&gt;. Dear Mary Lee has suggested I post a short excerpt and ask for your prayers for the completion of the work, and that it would serve the Church well. So would you please pray for this work?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe it would be good to mention that most of the posts, but particularly the last two--on divorce and remarriage, and why David and I still call ourselves &amp;quot;evangelicals&amp;quot;--were written some time ago and, since then, have been awaiting posting.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here's the preface...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;PREFACE&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For about fifteen years, now, Mary Lee and I have ministered in a university community where a large part of our congregation moves each summer. Once or twice, we’ve lost as many as a quarter of our members in a year, most of them leaving shortly after commencement for graduate school or a job in a new location. So we have a steady stream of members asking us, “Do you know a good church in Nashville,” or “Do you have any recommendations for how to choose a church?”&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sometimes we can recommend a church. More commonly, though, one of our pastors meets with the member, gives him a few contacts in his new city, and makes a couple suggestions on how to choose a new church home. Like many of the questions we answer over and over again, we began to wonder whether there was a helpful book we could recommend? Nothing too long. Just something to provide a start in the right direction.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For years, I was in the habit of saying the best question to ask of a church’s elders or pastor was whether they practiced church discipline. There are so many factors in making the choice of a church home that, rather than listing them all, I thought this would be a silver bullet, able to pierce to the heart of the matter, quickly weeding out those congregations that didn’t fear God and were unconcerned about holiness.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hearing back from our members the responses they got to that question, though, it became apparent there were few churches that would admit to not practicing church discipline. Typically, the elder or pastor would trot out a case of discipline—sometimes many years earlier—that had involved a notorious sinner. He’d recount how they’d excommunicated the man. Then he’d look at our former member and ask if he had any other questions?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Trouble was, the cases used as illustrative of each church’s commitment to discipline almost always involved a crime or some serious sexual sin; never greed, gossip, or divisiveness—things that were more a matter of subjective judgment than objective fact. Also, the examples the pastor or elder gave always involved the formal disciplines of public censure or excommunication. They would never speak of the normal discipline a healthy church carries on week in, week out—from the pulpit through correction and rebuke, as a part of conversations before or after Sunday school classes, or during the fellowship of a weekly home fellowship group.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is to say that everyone thought of discipline only in terms of the formal response of a church to sin that had become so notorious that the shame of not dealing with it had become painful enough for the church’s elders (or deacons) that their commitment not to cast the first stone was finally overcome by their stronger commitment to avoid the scorn of their congregation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe you’ll understand my saying that this is a very limited understanding of the discipline of the Apostolic church as its inner community life is recorded for us in the New Testament. But more on this later.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As the years went by, it became clear we’d have to come up with a few more suggestions of questions to ask in choosing a church. This book is the result.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although our church is reformed in its doctrinal commitments, with the &lt;em&gt;Westminster Standards&lt;/em&gt; part of our &lt;em&gt;Constitution&lt;/em&gt;, I’m hopeful this book won’t be too offensive to brothers who aren’t reformed. Rather, I hope what I’ve written is sufficiently anchored in the record Scripture provides us of the Apostolic church that a broad cross-section of evangelical or Bible-believing Christians will find it helpful. Because finally, it has not been my purpose to convince readers of the correctness of my own personal preferences regarding this or that aspect of church life, but to show what Scripture commands concerning the worship and fellowship of the Household of Faith, the Church of the Living God, the Pillar and Foundation of the Truth, the precious Bride of Christ.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;May the Holy Spirit use this little work to help you find a church where you and your loved ones may grow into maturity in Jesus Christ, kept safe for the great Marriage Feast of the Lamb.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


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<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim)&lt;/em&gt; Some of our elders and closest friends think the commitment David and I have to evangelicalism is quixotic, with the kindest of them hoping we'll see the light some day, and give it up. It's not likely.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Take the sermon text this past Lord's Day, for instance. It was Matthew 22:34-40, where Matthew records the exchange between Jesus and a lawyer who asks Him which is the greatest commandment? Jesus answers that the greatest commandments is to love God with all our heart and soul and mind.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Today's evangelicalism has eviscerated love of much of its objective biblical content, so I'm not suggesting anyone take out membership in a megachurch and join in a sing-along...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;It's easy.&lt;br /&gt;All you need is love, all you need is love,&lt;br /&gt;All you need is love, love, love is all you need.&lt;br /&gt;All you need is love (all together now)&lt;br /&gt;All you need is love (everybody)&lt;br /&gt;All you need is love, love, love is all you need.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, I wouldn't propose old school presbyterianism,
either, where it carefully avoids placing any emphasis on
conversion--what Jesus called being &amp;quot;born again&amp;quot;--and has no intimacy,
fellowship, or house-to-houseness at the center of Christian life...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Lord's Supper without unity around the Table is a violation of
that Table. Without that unity, love of God and neighbor is a sham. Our
Lord made this clear when He initiated the Lord's Supper in the context
of His prayer:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;I do not ask on behalf of these
alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; that
they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that
they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may
be one, just as We are one; I in them and You in Me, that they may be
perfected in unity, so that the world may know that You sent Me, and
loved them, even as You have loved Me. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;(John 17:20-23)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yet
really, Lennon was on to something here. All we need is love. Not the
ceremonial laws. Not circumcision. Not the Sabbath. Not phylacteries.
Not circumcision. Not the icons. Not the Mass, Eucharist,
consubstantiation, or the weekly celebration of the Lord's Supper. Not
covenant-renewal liturgies. Not baptism in the Name of the Triune God
administered by a properly ordained minister of the Word and Sacrament.
But love.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You say I'm setting up a false antithesis. Really?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Consider. Jesus could have answered this question in a number of
other ways. The scribes and Pharisees did. Most of them considered the
ceremonial law weightier than the moral law. And taking their
speculation down to the individual laws, they were split over whether
the weightiest law was the Sabbath, phylacteries, or circumcision. But
love? No one would have expected that to be Jesus' answer. And if we're
honest, we'll admit we wouldn't answer that way today. Sure, the answer
wasn't unknown in Jesus' time; and yet, who'd have guessed it? Love?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Apparently, faith without love is dead.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


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<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim)&lt;/em&gt; Divorce is one of the most difficult questions pastors and elders face as we shepherd God's flock. Providing spiritual counsel in cases where husband and wife don't get along is relatively easy. Much harder are those cases in which husbands or wives physically abuse their spouses, fathers or stepfathers sexually abuse their children, husbands or wives commit serious sexual sin (what Jesus refers to as &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://next.bible.org/lexicon/greek/4202"&gt;&lt;em&gt;porneia&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; in the exception clause of Matthew 19), or husbands demand their wives and children deny the faith. Each of these matters requires the most careful study of Scripture, prayer, and pastoral counsel. Sometimes the result is a session (board of elders) recommendation of divorce.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the twelve years since Church of the Good Shepherd was founded, our session has made such a recommendation two or three times, each by unanimous consent. Sometimes it's hard to say whether the believing or unbelieving spouse is the one taking the initiative in the divorce. This is why it's impossible to say precisely how many times we've counseled divorce. We don't make the decision--the innocent party does. Yet neither do we abandon that innocent party to their own counsel. Our Westminster Standards are correct..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;in their statement:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Although the corruption of man
be such as is apt to study arguments, unduly to put asunder those whom
God hath joined together in marriage; yet nothing but adultery, or such
willful desertion as can no way be remedied by the Church or civil
magistrate, is cause sufficient of dissolving the bond of marriage;
wherein a public and orderly course of proceeding is to be observed;
and the persons concerned in it, not left to their own wills and
discretion in their own case. (&lt;em&gt;WCF&lt;/em&gt; XXIV, 6)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Although
things would be considerably easier for the session if it steered clear
of providing counsel at such times, we believe the &lt;em&gt;Confession&lt;/em&gt; is right to exhort sessions that the couple ought not to be &amp;quot;left to their own wills and discretion in their own case.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When a church member pursues divorce at the counsel of the session,
there are folks inside and outside the church who are scandalized that
Christians, let alone elders, would give such counsel. These folks say
they're opposed to any divorce for any reason at any time. At first
blush, their position seems to be on a higher road of spiritual
devotion. When I was fresh out of seminary, I may have agreed with
them. Over the years, though, it's become apparent things aren't always
as they seem, and this not simply due to the callouses that come with
age.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some time back, I preached a series of seven sermons from Matthew 19
on the biblical doctrine of divorce and remarriage. Divorce is terribly
destructive of the social fabric of a nation, of individual men and
women, of households, of children (young and old), of churches, and of
immortal souls made in the Image of God. There is little done by
pastors, elders, and Titus 2 women that is more important than the work
of reconciliation between husbands and wives who are tempted to pursue
divorce for marital difficulties other than sexual uncleanness and
desertion by an unbeliever.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But note I said &amp;quot;other than sexual uncleanness and desertion by an
unbeliever.&amp;quot; In these two circumstances, Scripture approves of divorce.
In Matthew 19:9, Jesus explicitly states that divorce is right and
proper in cases of sexual uncleanness. And in 1Corinthians 7:15, the
Apostle Paul explicitly declares the believing spouse is &amp;quot;not under
bondage&amp;quot; when an unbelieving spouse wants out of a marriage. So in
these two cases, God Himself approves of divorce.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No divorce for any reason at any time is essentially the Roman
Catholic position, but the Reformers explicitly rejected that position.
Why?
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, to bring the question into our own time, the tension of
setting up a system where salvation depends upon the good works of
infusion--attending Mass being principal among those works--and then to
deny hundreds of millions of divorced souls access to the Sacrament
because of their divorce; and finally, to offer the services of canon
lawyers who, for a fee, will work on an annulment does seem cynical.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some time back, commenting on the vindication of Joseph Kennedy's
ex-wife, Sheila Rausch, in her finally-successful battle to get the
Vatican to reverse the annulment her husband had received from the
Archdiocese of Boston, &lt;em&gt;The Independent&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20070622/ai_n19327401"&gt;reported&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are eight million divorced and remarried Catholics in the US;
although the country contains only 6 per cent of the world's Catholics,
it accounts for three-quarters of all annulments sanctioned by the
Vatican each year. In 1968, the American Catholic Church granted only
600 annulments a year. That figure is now 60,000.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The issue
cropped up in 2004 when it emerged that John Kerry, a Catholic and
Democratic presidential candidate, had obtained an annulment of his
first marriage. It might arise this time around as well. Another
Catholic, the former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani, is the
front-runner for the Republican nomination in 2008. He has had one of
his two previous marriages annulled.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Homiletic/07-96/3/3.html"&gt;Here's&lt;/a&gt; an interesting article on the larger context of Roman Catholic annulments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, things aren't always the way they seem, are they? And this is
true in the Protestant church, too. There are pastors who say they're
opposed to any remarriage after divorce, but it turns out their
churches don't agree with them and the other pastors on staff have
no hesitation remarrying those who are divorced.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This post is not intended to be a Biblical treatise on divorce. Others have done &lt;a href="http://www.pcahistory.org/pca/index.html"&gt;a much better job&lt;/a&gt; than I could (scroll down to the position statement on divorce--it's an invaluable resource).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But it's worth saying that, particularly in this matter, there ought
to be some degree of symmetry between what we say we believe and the
common practice in the churches we serve as pastors and elders. If
we've been the pastor of a church for several decades; if our church
still neither agrees with our position on remarriage nor practices it
in its common life; if the other pastors on staff don't agree or
practice our convictions either; if our church has any number of
couples who have been remarried after a divorce, although by someone
other than us, and we believe these couples are adulterous; then
really, this state of affairs is similar to the state of affairs in the
American Roman Catholic church.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is not a vote in favor of pragmatism, but we should see that
the Reformers had good reasons to sanction divorce and remarriage in
cases of &lt;a href="http://next.bible.org/lexicon/greek/4202"&gt;&lt;em&gt;porneia&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and abandonment by an unbeliever. They are biblical
exceptions, after all.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And regardless of the difficulty of determining the correct course
of action in particular cases, this work properly belongs to elders and pastors, as
the &lt;em&gt;Westminster Standards&lt;/em&gt; point out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For more on the Reformers' reforms in this area, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/067400521X?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;creativeASIN=067400521X"&gt;here's a book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width="1" height="1" border="0" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=067400521X" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important;" /&gt;
on adultery and divorce in Calvin's Geneva recommended by my brother, David. It's author, Robert Kingdon, taught me reformation history
during my undergraduate days at University of Wisconsin.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


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(Tim)&lt;/em&gt; Last night, Michele Peatie left a kind comment here in which she mentioned her blog, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://unbornwordoftheday.com/"&gt;Unborn Word of the Day&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. My curiosity piqued, I went and read some of her posts &lt;a href="http://unbornwordoftheday.com/2008/06/22/olivier-messiaen-twenty-gazes-on-the-infant-jesus/"&gt;including this&lt;/a&gt; on the occasion of the centenary of the birth of orthodox Roman Catholic French composer, Olivier Messiaen. If you're not familiar with Messiaen's music, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QJJP24/103-6999792-1050244?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=davtimbayouto-20&amp;amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creativeASIN=B000QJJP24"&gt;try this&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Further down the page was this gem of a post, &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://unbornwordoftheday.com/2008/05/24/living-pro-life-3-politicians/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Living Pro-Life - 3 Politicians&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;quot; Here Mrs. Peatie tells the stories of two female politicians' response to their Down Syndrome children, as well as the adoption by Senator John McCain and his wife, Cindy, of a special needs child from Mother Teresa's orphanage in Bangladesh.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A teenager now, the McCain's daughter, Bridget, would not have survived without surgery and years of rehabilitation. Cindy brought her home and, with her husband, provided her surgery, care, and love. Actually, Mrs. McCain brought back two babies: The other is also a teenager, now, and was adopted by one of McCain's aids, Wes Gullett, and his wife. Her name is Nicki. She too needed much medical care and Mr. Gullett says he &amp;quot;never saw a hospital bill&amp;quot; for her care, implying the McCain's paid for it all.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Turning to another politician who shows love for the poorest among us, this woman is a member of &lt;a href="http://www.feministsforlife.org/"&gt;Feminists for Life&lt;/a&gt; and the Governor of Alaska...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Governor Sarah Palin gave birth to their fifth child, Trig Paxson Van
Palin, on April 18th. With her family, Governor Palin welcomed him to
this world with this statement: &amp;quot;Trig is beautiful and already adored
by us. We knew through early
testing he would face special challenges, and we feel privileged that
God would entrust us with this gift and allow us unspeakable joy as he
entered our lives.&amp;quot; Isn't that wonderful?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Over eighty percent of children diagnosed with disabilities while in
the womb are aborted each year. The Van Palins knew of Trig's Down
Syndrome back in December, four months before his birth. He was one of
the twenty percent who escape the slaughter of Planned Parenthood. And
after he was born, he escaped &lt;a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51121"&gt;the slaughter Senator Obama is zealous to protect&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you, Michele, for these stories of love which have partly restored my hope for these United States and our public servants.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


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<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim)&lt;/em&gt; Those Christian hipsters still mesmerized by Senator Obama, thinking him to be a gentleman, need to watch this video. And anyone wondering how believers could vote for such a man need only listen to a podcast of the sermons these hispters sit under, week after weak. Vacuous and sentimental, but so very chic.

&lt;/p&gt;

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<category>Barack Obama</category>
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<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim: For those who skip the comments, here's one just posted as part of an exchange under the post, &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2008/07/slaughterhouse.html"&gt;Slaughterhouse-Two hundred and fifty thousand....&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; It would be good to read this in context, seeing the comments that gave rise to it. Regardless, the issues here dealt with come up frequently enough on this blog that I thought I'd give it main level posting in order to make some of the methods David and I employ on this blog more clear to our readers.)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;* * *&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dear Friends,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It's unusual for such comments as that made by Ben above to be
signed, and thus for us to know the person and life that's given rise
to them. My guess is that, almost always, such comments come from
desperate sinners who make no effort to hide it; their anger and
tormented consciences are right there in plain sight.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It's my inclination to deal with them one of two ways: Either
dismiss them and delete their comments, or call them to the Cross.
Arguing and exposure are not my first choice.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, most of the comments put up here on this blog
that oppose what we write--particularly on matters such as abortion and
sexuality--come from those who think of themselves as leaders, wise
souls, deep thinkers, the cream of the crop. These people should be
treated in an entirely different way; not at all with patience and
tenderness, but satire, irony, and any other weapon that will expose
them before the eyes of the sheep...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To help myself in this, I always keep the distinction before my eyes
that Jesus made between the scribes and Pharisees, on the one hand; and
poor sinners, on the other. With the first, He was satirical, ironic,
and inscrutable; at times with weal, but almost always woe. Sometimes
even a whip. He called them &amp;quot;hypocrites&amp;quot; over and over again, publicly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sinners, though, He hung with and led to faith and repentance.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We ought to take Him as our model. It won't be easy to diagnose the
person with just one comment, lacking the additional details personal
contact gives us. And often our diagnosis will differ with one of us
seeing a sinner where the other sees a wolf. That’s fine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What we all need to see, though, is that there is a place for
exposure of wolves. And when we’re dealing with an elder or pastor
who’s a wolf, exposure is required. In this connection, I often think
of Luther’s comment (particularly the final paragraph):&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;“In regard to doctrine we observe especially this defect that, while
some preach about the faith by which we are to be justified, It is
still not clearly enough explained how one shall attain to this faith,
and almost all omit one aspect of the Christian faith without which no
one can understand what faith is or means. For Christ says in the last
chapter of Luke [24:47] that we are to preach in his name repentance
and forgiveness of sins.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Many now talk only about the forgiveness of sins and say little or
nothing about repentance. There neither is forgiveness of sins without
repentance nor can forgiveness of sins be understood without
repentance. It follows that if we preach the forgiveness of sins
without repentance that the people imagine that they have already
obtained the forgiveness of sins, becoming thereby secure and without
compunction of conscience. This would be a greater error and sin than
all the errors hitherto prevailing. Surely we need to be concerned
lest, as Christ says In Matt. 12 [:45] 'the last state becomes worse
than the first.'&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Therefore we have instructed and admonished pastors that it is
their duty to preach the whole gospel and not one portion without the
other. For God says in Deut. 4 [:2]: ‘You shall not add to the word
...nor take from it.’ There are preachers who now attack the pope
because of what he has added to the Scriptures, which unfortunately is
all too true. But when these do not preach repentance, they tear out a
great part of Scripture. They have very little good to say about the
eating of meat and the like, though they should not keep silent when
they have an opportunity to defend Christian liberty against tyranny.
What else is this than what Christ says in Matthew 23 [:24]: ‘Straining
out a gnat and swallowing a camel?’&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;So we have admonished them to exhort the people diligently and
frequently to repent and grieve over their sins and to fear the
judgment of God. Nor are they to neglect the greatest and most
important element of repentance, for both John and Christ condemned the
Pharisees more severely for their hypocritical holiness than for
ordinary sins. The preachers are to condemn the gross sins of the
common man, but more rigorously demand repentance where there is false
holiness.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With love and deep appreciation for the help you all give in your comments, here,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tim Bayly&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


<category>Preaching</category>

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<description>(Tim, w/thanks to Mark, James, and David) Across the country, Christians should be refusing to participate in United Way campaigns that fund Planned Parenthood. It's not enough that some United Way chapters allow donors to specify certain charities or exclude...</description>
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 (Tim, w/thanks to Mark, James, and David)&lt;/em&gt; Across the country, Christians should be refusing to participate in United Way campaigns that fund Planned Parenthood. It's not enough that some United Way chapters allow donors to specify certain charities or exclude others. We should have nothing to do with an organization that provides a single dollar of support for those making a living off the slaughter of unborn babies safely nestled in their mother's womb.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Planned Parenthood is wicked, ruthless, heartless, cruel, deceptive, bloodthirsty, and depraved. Planned Parenthood is also obscenely rich.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How many of your tax dollars will be used this year to fund these worshipers of Molech? Have you and the men of your church opposed that funding? Let's not be monkey see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil men.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To help in our recovery of the pure religion that is undefiled before God and the Father, here are some recent articles exposing the business end of Planned Parenthood...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;First, &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-launch08.html?project=FORTRESS0806"&gt;these graphs&lt;/a&gt; doing the numbers as only &lt;em&gt;The Wall Street Journal&lt;/em&gt; could. Turns out, Planned Parenthood ended this past year with a surplus of $100,000,000 on annual revenue of $1,000,000,000.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Second, &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121417762585295459.html"&gt;another article&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;em&gt;The Wall Street Journal&lt;/em&gt; detailing Planned Parenthood's expansion out of poverty services into the greener pastures of suburban shopping malls.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Third, &lt;a href="%3Chttp://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWU1YmMzNWVhMTFhYTQxNjliZGIxMTcxYWU2NTMyNTQ=%3Ehttp://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWU1YmMzNWVhMTFhYTQxNjliZGIxMTcxYWU2NTMyNTQ="&gt;a piece&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;em&gt;National Review&lt;/em&gt; illustrating how those who throw out the big laws end up replacing them with thousands of little ones. &lt;em&gt;National Review&lt;/em&gt;
reports a Massachusetts Planned Parenthood affiliate has made plans to
build a “green” clinic constructed of materials that are recycled or
otherwise environmentally friendly. Dianne Luby, president of the
Planned Parenthood's Bay State branch, is quoted saying: “we’re trying
to reposition ourselves as caring about their health, about prevention,
about a sustainable planet.”&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
A sustainable planet? Does the murder of somewhere around 75,000,000
unborn babies each year qualify us for &amp;quot;sustainable planet&amp;quot; status? And
if so, may I ask precisely what is it that's being sustained if coming
generations of the unborn are being slaughtered?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Jonathan Swift himself couldn't satirize this monstrosity.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


<category>Abortion, euthanasia...</category>

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<description>(Tim: Given the importance of this correction, we'll leave this post at the top for a few days. Please check below for more recent posts. Thanks.) Speaking of Bryan Chapell putting forward Phil Ryken for service on a study committee...</description>
<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim: Given the importance of this correction, we'll leave this post at the top for a few days. Please check below for more recent posts. Thanks.)&lt;/em&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2008/06/dialog-is-vastl.html"&gt;Speaking of&lt;/a&gt; Bryan Chapell putting forward Phil Ryken for service on a study committee on woman deacons, I held off correcting some significant errors in Phil's commentary on 1Timothy 3:8-13 until I'd been able to notify him of those errors, giving him a chance to correct the text of the PDF available for download. A week and a half after we exchanged e-mails (Phil was quite cordial, by the way), it appears the text hasn't yet been corrected. The errors appear in Phil's commentary issued as part of P&amp;amp;R's Reformed Expository Commentary Series, and specifically his comments on 1Timothy 3:8-13 where the Apostle Paul enumerates qualifications for the office of deacon. In this text, Phil misquotes B. B. Warfield...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Phil placed this section of his commentary &lt;a href="http://www.tenth.org/fileadmin/files_for_download/Pdf_articles/Qualifications_of_Deacons.pdf"&gt;on his church's web site&lt;/a&gt;
and the document has been widely circulated within the PCA leading up
to this year's assembly. It's the section that deals with the
controversy of woman deacons, giving Phil's position on the matter. But more importantly, this is where Phil gives the position
taken by Princeton's revered B. B. Warfield, and it's Phil's quotes and
summary of Warfield that are in error.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let me simply quote from my
e-mail to Phil:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;* * *&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(Two places) you quote from &lt;a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2008/06/b-b-warfield-th.html"&gt;Warfield's essay&lt;/a&gt;
which you use to support your position (on woman deacons) are
misleading. Here are the quotes from your commentary, followed by the
actual text of Warfield's article in the original (B. B. Warfield,
“Presbyterian Deaconesses,” &lt;em&gt;Presbyterian Review&lt;/em&gt; [1889]):&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;First, this quote from your commentary:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Closer to our own times, Benjamin Breckinridge Warfield
was a strong proponent of women deacons. Warfield taught at Princeton
and was among the leading conservative evangelicals at the turn of the
twentieth century. He based his argument for deaconesses partly on the
example of Phoebe, and partly on a letter from the Roman governor Pliny
to the Emperor Trajan. The letter, which was written around A. D. 112,
referred to women as holding a servant office in the church. Warfield’s
conclusion was that these women &lt;em&gt;“constituted a female diaconate
similar to and of like standing with the board of deacons which, in the
New Testament, we find in every church.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;p&gt;(But here is the) text showing Warfield's words as they appear in
context in the original. I have placed the words you chose to quote
from Warfield in italics, below:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;When we seek Biblical warrant, we have only the isolated
phrase, “Phebe, the deaconess;” when we ask after the testimony of the
first age of the church, we have only Pliny’s witness that the church
in Bithynia had ancillæ which they called ministræ; and after that all
is darkness until the deaconesses emerge into light again as part of
the already considerably corrupted ecclesiastical system of the third
century. We have no Biblical account of the qualifications for the
office or its duties, and no very early account of the functions it
actually exercised. We are left only to the meager inferences that as
Phebe was “a deaconess of the church that is at Cenchreae,” the office
was a local one and inhered in the individual congregation; that as
Pliny tortured two ancillæ, there may have been a plurality of
deaconesses in each congregation; and that as the name was primitively
the same and the functions exercised by them from the third century
were parallel, they &lt;em&gt;constituted a female diaconate similar to and
of like standing with the board of deacons which, in the New Testament,
we find in every church.&lt;/em&gt; Theories aside, this is all we know of the primitive deaconesses.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Seeing these words in context; but more, reading the essay in its
entirety clarifies that Warfield was no strong proponent of
deaconesses, and no proponent at all of deaconesses as they are
employed by churches across the PCA today. More specifically, your use
of the above quote from Warfield's text is made to carry more water
than those reading the original would think his actual words should
rightly bear.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your readers would hardly be led to the conclusion ...that the
paragraph is filled with words and statements such as &amp;quot;only the
isolated phrase, 'Phebe the deaconess,'&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;only Pliny's witness,&amp;quot; or
&amp;quot;after that, all is darkness,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;part of the already considerably
corrupted ecclesiastical system of the third century,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;no Biblical
account,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;no very early account,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;we are left only to the
meager inferences,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;theories aside, this is all we know of the
primitive deaconesses.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p&gt;...Second, this quote from your commentary:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The church of Warfield’s day did not ordain women to
serve as deaconesses, but Warfield himself recognized the need for
putting the gifts of women into service. He believed that returning
women to the ministry of deaconess would restore order in the church: &lt;em&gt;“If
the people of a particular church would simply elect women as well as
men to the office of deacon, making one board or two separate boards,
at their pleasure, of course ordained with the same vows and
responsible to the same authority . . . the order is restored.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(But here is the) text showing Warfield's words as they appear in context in the original:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In these arrangements, we observe, “widows” are confused
with deaconesses ; and the success of this revival of the office was
doubtless greatly handicapped by this unfortunate circumstance,
requiring, as it did; that the deaconesses should be at least sixty
years old. It is interesting to note, even in this error, the care that
the Congregationalists took humbly to follow the Scriptural form; and
therefore also it was that they made the office a local one, belonging
like the deacons themselves, to the individual church. It was in this
understanding of it also that Dr. McGill desired its renewal. &lt;em&gt;“If
the people of a particular church” he says, “would simply elect women
as well as men to the office of deacon, making one board or two
separate boards, at their pleasure, of course ordained with the same
vows and responsible to the same authority, as now provided in our
constitution, the order is restored.”&lt;/em&gt; He suggested, no doubt,
further that, “from this beginning, a development could be made of
larger boards, in gradation; corresponding to Presbyteries, Synods, and
General Assembly, by way of representation; keeping records at every
step of such gradation, and reporting their work done or projected to
the Judicatories of each plane, composed of ministers and elders.” But
he would scarcely have claimed a direct Scriptural warrant for this
“development,” as he claimed it for the office of deaconess itself; nor
indeed was it wholly congruous with his suggestion that the deaconesses
might be incorporated into the already existing board of deacons, who
are not organized thus into graded bodies. This development thus
appears to be an excrescence on Dr. McGill’s view of the form which the
revival of the deaconess should take; the board of deacons find no
difficulty in working upon the universal church through the proper
officers of the church to which they belong, who represent them along
with the whole church; and no more should the corresponding board of
deaconesses require a separate parallel organization, carrying up their
influence to Presbytery, Synod or Assembly. It is evident that this
extension was due to Dr. McGill’s earnest desire to bring the women’s
organizations at present existing into some sort of vital connection
with the church at large.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here you see that your assertion that Warfield &amp;quot;believed that
returning women to the ministry of deaconess would restore order in the
church&amp;quot; stands on a foundation of false attribution. The words you use
to support this assertion which you attribute to Warfield himself are
not Warfield's words at all. Rather, they are McGill's words, clearly
delineated by quote marks in the original.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My dear brother, I'm sure you recognize these are serious errors,
and those who have read your commentary, whether hard copy or the
e-text that is hosted on your church web site, will be misled by the
text as it now stands.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;* * *&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
That's the end of this excerpt from my e-mail to Phil.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Now, just a few comments about these errors. First, I'm certain neither
Phil nor the P&amp;amp;R editors were intentional in this error, nor in
failing to correct it later. But now that the error is known, it's
incumbent upon both the author and publishing company not to allow
future distribution of this book without an errata or oops sheet
inserted in the book at the pages containing the errors. Similarly with
what's available on the web: it should be corrected immediately.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Second, it's clear that this error has received the widest
distribution and will be for years to come the most likely place people
learn of Warfield's position on woman deacons. So I encourage our
readers to &lt;a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2008/06/b-b-warfield-th.html"&gt;read Warfield's complete essay on the subject for
themselves&lt;/a&gt;, and to give the actual essay the widest possible
distribution so the error that's out there will be corrected by people
who have read the primary source. Yes, Warfield was supportive of something approximating deaconesses, but how he did and didn't support them is critically important.&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p&gt;
Third, learn the lesson I learned years ago, that you should never
depend upon modern authors for your knowledge of primary sources. Don't depend on anyone else to read them for you, and to report to you what they say.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>


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<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Tim: A week or so ago, thirty plus members of Church of the Good Shepherd went to Bloomington's City Council meeting to oppose our tax dollars being appropriated by the Council members to fund an organization that makes Hitler's Third Reich and it's Holocaust factories look like child's play. I'm speaking of course of Planned Parenthood which makes its living off of the slaughter of unborn children tenderly nestled in their mother's womb. By itself, Planned Parenthood is responsible for a quarter of a million of those murders each year, and &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-launch08.html?project=FORTRESS0806"&gt;they're moving&lt;/a&gt; their &lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/abattoir?cat=technology"&gt;abattoirs&lt;/a&gt; into more affluent areas in order to grow their bloody profit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each year here in Bloomington, Planned Parenthood goes through the charade of requesting tax dollars to help provide its clients with some service close to, but not exactly coterminous with it's slaughter machine. And each year, our city fathers cuddle up to this progressive nonprofit and ante up our dough over our vociferous protest. One of those speaking against this Holocaust funding this year was Mary Lee's and my dear friend and fellow CGS member, Joshua Congrove. Although we were out of town at the time, we heard Josh's testimony was good, so I asked him if he could send me a copy. Here are a few prefaratory comments he wrote to set the scene, followed by what he said that night.)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This year, as usual, Planned Parenthood received a donation from the Bloomington City Council (and from public funds) to support a particular medical procedure. While the procedure itself is unobjectionable, the giving of public money to an organization that performs hundreds of abortions per year is an egregious act that demands objection...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This past Wednesday (June 18), the Bloomington City Council held the
final vote on the dispersal. Though the vote itself was all but a
foregone conclusion, a number of us (about 32) supporting life attended
in protest, and a smaller number (12-15) spoke against this vote.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Before I arrived, I had not decided whether I would speak, but as the
meeting proceeded I realized I trul