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	<title>A Chat with Ben and Pete</title>
	
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		<title>A Chat - World Phone Day!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pete and Ben chat about the iPhone 3G, a week on. We talk about:

 Purchase stories
 Activation
 Hardware

 Plastic back

 Feels good in the hand and doesn&#8217;t slip


 GPS

A bit subtle about satellite lock


 Reception

 3G doesn&#8217;t drop back to 2G quickly enough


 Sound

 On 2G in my bad reception it&#8217;s the best phone Peter&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete and Ben chat about the iPhone 3G, a week on. We talk about:</p>
<ul>
<li> Purchase stories</li>
<li> Activation</li>
<li> Hardware
<ul>
<li> Plastic back
<ul>
<li> Feels good in the hand and doesn&#8217;t slip</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> GPS
<ul>
<li>A bit subtle about satellite lock</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> Reception
<ul>
<li> 3G doesn&#8217;t drop back to 2G quickly enough</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> Sound
<ul>
<li> On 2G in my bad reception it&#8217;s the best phone Peter&#8217;s used</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> Camera
<ul>
<li> Disappointing but functional. Lens flare if there&#8217;s any backlight</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> Battery life
<ul>
<li> Lasts a day of pretty heavy use</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> Software
<ul>
<li> App store</li>
<li> Favourite apps so far
<ul>
<li> <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=284946773&amp;mt=8" title="Byline" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/phobos.apple.com');">Byline</a>
<ul>
<li>Google reader reader (with offline)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=284856940&amp;mt=8" title="iPint" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/phobos.apple.com');">iPint</a>
<ul>
<li>Always gets a laugh</li>
<li>It is now the top free app</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=284885288&amp;mt=8" title="OmniFocus" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/phobos.apple.com');">OmniFocus</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=284967867&amp;mt=8" title="Twinkle" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/phobos.apple.com');">Twinkle</a>
<ul>
<li> Ben - The best use of location I&#8217;ve seen so far. You see people responding to other tweets locally. Normally these people wouldn&#8217;t be able to find each other. Recognised a name mentioned in one (a former colleague of some people at work)</li>
<li> Peter lives 5 miles from Ben.</li>
<li>Peter - Someone rather menacingly said &#8220;we know where you live&#8221; after I posted with GPS position outside.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=284993459&amp;mt=8" title="Shazam" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/phobos.apple.com');">Shazam</a></li>
<li><a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=284984448&amp;mt=8" title="Mocha VNC Lite" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/phobos.apple.com');">Mocha VNC Lite</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=285559215&amp;mt=8" title="More Cowbell" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/phobos.apple.com');">More Cowbell</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> Crashing apps
<ul>
<li> Peter - AIM</li>
<li> Ben - A few apps crash. Kind of makes me wonder if it&#8217;s the apps or the OS?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> Problems
<ul>
<li> Peter - Push email notification troubles
<ul>
<li> Stopped on Friday</li>
<li> Rebooted and then my .mac account came back</li>
<li> removed .mac and it works again</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> Ben - Push notification works from the iPhone but not the mac itself. Found I need to sync explicitly or wait for the next sync (even on &#8220;automatic&#8221;)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> Data usage so far&#8230;
<ul>
<li> Peter - Sent 3.1Mb, Received 42.4Mb = 45.6Mb -&gt; 152Mb / month</li>
<li> Ben - I can&#8217;t say since I&#8217;ve had it reset to some value twice after the iPhone restarted itself. Currently says Sent 2.4Mb, Received 24.2Mb</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://bgcooper.com/podcast/ep24_world_phone_day.mp3" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/downloads/mp3/ep24_world_phone_day.mp3');">A Chat - World Phone Day!</a></p>
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		<title>A Chat - Episode 23</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neil Young and the Java?
Show notes are here: http://bgcooper.com/2008/05/11/a-chat-episode-23-show-notes/
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		<itunes:subtitle>Neil Young and the Java?

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		<itunes:summary>Neil Young and the Java?

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		<itunes:author>Ben Cooper and Peter Marks</itunes:author>
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		<title>A Chat - Episode 23 show notes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 12:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neil Young and the Java?

Neil Young at JavaONE talking about Blu-ray


Story by Dan Farber here&#160;
He&#8217;s not a fan of mp3s&#160;


That said, he&#8217;s clearly not a fan of MP3 quality: &#8220;Putting on a headphone and listening to MP3 is like hell,&#8221; he said.



He says that audio definition in blu-ray brings us back to the way we [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil Young and the Java?<br id="l4_k0"></p>
<ul id="t6wa1">
<li id="cg3t5">Neil Young at JavaONE talking about Blu-ray<br id="ox:n0">
</li>
<ul id="h58b0">
<li id="cg3t5">Story by Dan Farber <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13953_3-9937142-80.html?tag=nefd.lede" title="here" id="t.31" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.news.com');">here</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li id="cg3t5">He&#8217;s not a fan of mp3s&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<blockquote id="nefb0"><p>That said, he&#8217;s clearly not a fan of MP3 quality: &#8220;Putting on a headphone and listening to MP3 is like hell,&#8221; he said.<br id="icfa0">
</p></blockquote>
<ul id="icfa2">
<ul id="icfa3">
<li id="icfa4">He says that audio definition in blu-ray brings us back to the way we were with analogue (<br id="ub-50">
</li>
<li id="icfa4">Java based UI in Blu-ray players can create much better interactivity than before</li>
<li id="icfa4">Interesting quote:</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<blockquote id="ub-51">
<p id="ub-52">Larry Johnson, of Shakey Films (which works on all of Young&#8217;s films),<br />
said Young had the concept for his latest project on paper 15 years<br />
ago. About two years ago, they put the footage all together and waited<br />
for the Blu-ray HD-DVD fight to end.</p>
</blockquote>
<ul id="j6a00">
<ul id="j6a01">
<li id="j6a02">I love the quote from the infoweek <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal_tech/music/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207601276" title="article" id="tcvb" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.informationweek.com');">article</a>:</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<blockquote id="y3u-1"><p><span id="articleBody">Perhaps Young had witnessed the earlier live<br />
demonstrations of JavaFX, both of which froze in their tracks and<br />
needed to be restarted. &#8220;We&#8217;re going to give a demo,&#8221; announced Young,<br />
&#8220;and it&#8217;s going to work because it&#8217;s fake [recorded].&#8221;<br />
</span><br id="tp4g0">
</p></blockquote>
<ul id="t6wa1">
<li id="t6wa2">Alternative firmware for Canon point and shoot cameras<br id="t6wa3">
</li>
<ul id="t6wa4">
<li id="t6wa5">
      Wiki <a href="http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page" title="here" id="tdi_" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/chdk.wikia.com');">here</a><br id="yxcb0">
</li>
<li id="t6wa5">Works on a wide range of Canon point n shoot cameras</li>
<li id="t6wa5">It&#8217;s non-destructive, you load it after turning on</li>
<ul id="t6wa4">
<li id="lls_0">Put two files on the SD card</li>
<li id="lls_1">Turn on in play mode</li>
<li id="lls_2">1 extra menu item, &#8220;upgrade firmware&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<li id="t6wa5">You get extra on screen displays</li>
<li id="t6wa5">Lots of great&nbsp;<a href="http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK_firmware_usage" id="trcd" title="features" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/chdk.wikia.com');">features</a>:</li>
<ul id="t6wa4">
<li id="b1x_0">Raw file save</li>
<li id="b1x_1">Zebra display of over exposure</li>
<li id="b1x_2">live histogram &amp; colour histogram</li>
<li id="b1x_3">all sorts of techy readouts</li>
<li id="b1x_4">They re-use the direct print button as &#8220;alt&#8221;</li>
<li id="b1x_5">various grids, including user designed</li>
<li id="b1x_5">depth of field calculator</li>
<li id="b1x_5">scripts in a ubasic language!</li>
<ul id="t6wa4">
<li id="s4bi0">things like bracketing</li>
</ul>
<li id="lekc0">File browser</li>
<li id="lekc1">Calendar</li>
<li id="lekc1">Text reader</li>
<li id="lekc2">Flash light!</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<li id="t6wa6">
    How do Leopard macs know that you just downloaded a file?<br id="ohdi0">
</li>
<ul id="t6wa7">
<li id="t6wa8">
      stops you executing it with out agreeing to the risk
    </li>
<li id="t6wa9">
      ls -l shows an @ attribute: <br id="trv60">
</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<div id="trv61" style="margin-left: 80px; font-family: Courier New;">-rwxr-xr-x@&nbsp; 1 marksp&nbsp; staff&nbsp; 1368&nbsp; 2 May 05:44 LICENSE.txt<br id="io1w0"><br />
      drwxr-xr-x@&nbsp; 4 marksp&nbsp; staff&nbsp;&nbsp; 136&nbsp; 2 May 05:44 bin<br id="io1w1"><br />
      drwxr-xr-x@ 13 marksp&nbsp; staff&nbsp;&nbsp; 442&nbsp; 2 May 05:44 dbgp</div>
<ul id="y4830">
<ul id="trv62">
<li id="y4831"><span id="ypye0" style="font-family: Courier New;">Peter-iMac:Downloads marksp$ xattr -l maxi-meter_051.zip&nbsp;</span></li>
</ul>
</ul>
<div id="t0a50" style="margin-left: 80px;"><span id="ypye1" style="font-family: Courier New;">com.apple.metadata:kMDItemWhereFroms:</span><br style="font-family: Courier New;" id="vt_e1"><br />
<span id="ypye2" style="font-family: Courier New;">0000 &nbsp; 62 70 6C 69 73 74 30 30 A1 01 5F 10 39 68 74 74 &nbsp; &nbsp;bplist00.._.9htt</span><br style="font-family: Courier New;" id="vt_e2"><br />
<span id="ypye3" style="font-family: Courier New;">0010 &nbsp; 70 3A 2F 2F 6D 61 63 70 6F 6D 6D 65 2E 63 6F 6D &nbsp; &nbsp;p://macpomme.com</span><br style="font-family: Courier New;" id="vt_e3"><br />
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</span></div>
<div id="w36e2" style="margin-left: 80px; font-family: Courier New;">com.apple.quarantine: 0000;482370e0;Safari;6C367C85-D790-4381-82CB-BFA85AFF3D73|com.apple.Safari</div>
<ul id="t6wa1">
<ul id="t6wa7">
<li id="t6wa9">
      To get rid of it: xattr -d com.apple.quarantine &lt;filenames&gt;</li>
</ul>
<li id="m:mi0">OLPC in Australia</li>
<ul id="t6wa1">
<li id="h_fw0">As reported on&nbsp;<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/lowcost-laptop-group-lands-in-australia/2008/05/06/1209839632113.html" title="SMH" id="ly3x" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.smh.com.au');">SMH</a>, the OLPC organisation has set up a local group in Australia</li>
<li id="t6wa9">
Signed up to the mailing list at&nbsp;<a href="http://www.olpc.org.au/" title="olpc.org.au" id="d0nc" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.olpc.org.au');">olpc.org.au</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li id="t6wa9">Event on this Friday at Mitchell Theatre,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.sydneymsa.com.au/" id="h0:t0" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.sydneymsa.com.au');">Sydney Mechanics’ School of Arts</a>, 280 Pitt Street,&nbsp;Sydney<br id="p0_50">
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<ul id="znc:0" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"></ul>
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</li>
</ul>
<li id="cg3t2">Home broadband upgrade</li>
<ul id="t6wa1">
<li id="cg3t3">Pete switches from Optus Cable to Telstra Cable</li>
<ul id="t6wa1">
<li id="cg3t4">promises &#8220;up to&#8221; 30Mbps down and 1Mbps up</li>
</ul>
<li id="cg3t4">Blog post <a href="http://marxy.org/2008/05/switched-home-broadband-to-telstra.html" title="here" id="vm6u" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/marxy.org');">here</a><br id="w36e5">
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Google App Engine experiences

Early problems with django app, used too much time, no clue as to why
Got it working by using later examples
Seems fairly quick ab says about 450ms (ping is 300ms)


YUI 

Benefits overview
Lovely menus
Excellent examples
Can serve the CSS direct from Yahoo&#8217;s server


Home brew electronics

Morse ident keyer with Atmel ATTiny85
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<ul id="true">
<li id="i4tm"><a href="http://appengine.google.com/" id="s-eg" title="Google App Engine" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/appengine.google.com');">Google App Engine</a> experiences<br id="immh" />
<ul id="true">
<li id="ppk:">Early problems with django app, used too much time, no clue as to why</li>
<li id="vtwu">Got it working by using later examples</li>
<li id="riwe">Seems fairly quick ab says about 450ms (ping is 300ms)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="bj2h"><a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/" id="sumo" title="YUI" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/developer.yahoo.com');">YUI</a> <br id="ucmw" />
<ul id="true">
<li id="t1r8">Benefits overview</li>
<li id="t1r8">Lovely menus</li>
<li id="p50l">Excellent examples</li>
<li id="p50l">Can serve the CSS direct from Yahoo&#8217;s server</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="u5jr">Home brew electronics<br id="xizl" />
<ul id="true">
<li id="o3qp">Morse ident keyer with Atmel ATTiny85</li>
<li id="waia">Programmable with gcc</li>
<li id="waia">8 pin device</li>
<li id="waia">My code uses 1k or 8k available</li>
<li id="waia">6 pins available for input or output</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="v9z:">Amazon Web services action
<ul id="true">
<li id="u65e">They seem to have become very active since google launched
<ul id="b7tt">
<li id="u65e">&#8220;Elastic&#8221; IPs</li>
<li id="u65e">Data centre location</li>
<li id="u65e">SLAs<br id="egj8" /></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="d7.e">New dashboard for showing service status
<ul id="true">
<li id="ozhb">They say that users tell them there are problems some times&#8230;</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="f7vr">Higher level, higher cost support options
<ul id="true">
<li id="lx.b">If you bet your business on these services you need someone to call</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="hva4">Amazon MP3
<ul id="true">
<li id="cj9y">Got an invite offering free tracks</li>
<li id="cj9y">No DRM is attractive</li>
<li id="cj9y">They have a downloader that automatically ads to iTunes</li>
<li id="cj9y">I tried but it wanted a US credit card address.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="iwil">SafariAdBlock<br id="w6l5" />
<ul id="true">
<li id="s5q4">blocks most ads in Safari</li>
<li id="kw98">free from <a href="http://safariadblock.sourceforge.net/" id="jcp:" title="here" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/safariadblock.sourceforge.net');">here</a></li>
<li id="kw98">Sites that make me scroll down past ads have pushed me to this</li>
<li id="kw98">Have tried other approaches such as squid with perl script to replace banners in the past</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="nw9x">Trying Twitter
<ul id="true">
<li id="p28e">micro blogging</li>
<li id="jis2">useful? hmm</li>
<li id="jis2"><a href="http://twhirl.org/" id="w2eu" title="twhirl" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/twhirl.org');">twhirl</a> client is an Adobe Air application
<ul id="true">
<li id="ul.t">scary thing is that an application is installed by flash running in a browser</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="ls.4">iPhone Australia gossip
<ul id="true">
<li id="e-_s">Someone is working on getting iPhones approved on Australian carriers</li>
<li id="e-_s">This is said to take &#8220;months&#8221;</li>
<li id="e-_s">But there&#8217;s lots already on the network so presumably it could be sped up</li>
<li id="e-_s">Or not, if they are new models</li>
</ul>
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<li id="n1tq">Open Source Corporations<br id="jfs_" />
<ul id="true">
<li id="jevp">We talked Sun buying MySQL in Episode 13<br id="x.x5" /></li>
<li id="jevp">How will this change MySQL?</li>
<li id="aws:">What&#8217;s happened to other open source projects?</li>
<li id="aws:">Peter&#8217;s blog post <a href="http://marxy.org/2008/04/sun-buys-mysql-what-does-it-mean-when.html" id="rghl" title="here" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/marxy.org');">here</a> <br id="lvrl" /></li>
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The MacBook Air is lethal!
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Apologies for lack of show notes in last episode (Ben)

Tried publishing from Google docs and didn&#8217;t quite like the formatting
Tried changing using Wordpress&#8217; visual editor and got strange results
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<div id="lm3l">The MacBook Air is lethal!</div>
<div>In this episode we chat about</div>
<div id="lm3l">
<ul id="true">
<li id="ayv3">Apologies for lack of show notes in last episode (Ben)<br id="mwbd" />
<ul id="yeuu">
<li id="ayv3">Tried publishing from Google docs and didn&#8217;t quite like the formatting</li>
<li id="ayv3">Tried changing using Wordpress&#8217; visual editor and got strange results</li>
<li id="ayv3">Upgraded to Wordpress 2.5 this week which includes a much improved editor
<ul id="z.-5">
<li id="ayv3">Supposedly doesn&#8217;t interfere with crafted HTML in the code editor</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="ayv3">Attempted the same for these show notes without success. Here is the error from Google docs
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://bgcooper.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/xmlrpc_error.png" rel="lightbox"><img title="XML-RPC Error from Google Docs" src="http://bgcooper.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/xmlrpc_error.png" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>(perhaps those <a href="http://westi.wordpress.com/tag/xmlrpc-wordpress-25/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/westi.wordpress.com');">extra checks</a> broke something for Google?)</li>
<li id="ayv3">Pasting Google docs generated HTML looks <strong>OK</strong></li>
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</li>
<li id="ry77">Cut myself on the MacBook Air (Pete)
<ul id="true">
<li id="cyix">Really!</li>
<li id="cyix">My USB ethernet adapter has failed</li>
<li id="cyix">Overall, very happy with the laptop</li>
<li id="cyix">Sometimes would like it to be faster</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="ayv3">Websites: Everyone&#8217;s doing APIs (Ben)<br id="wtii" />
<ul id="true">
<li id="xt8m">FaceBook - with some controversy about the data it shares</li>
<li id="xt8m">LinkedIn are supporting Google&#8217;s <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/" id="qt.d" title="OpenSocial" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/code.google.com');">OpenSocial</a>
<ul id="true">
<li id="t1:-">as are Friendster, MySpace (late to the party), Ning, Plaxo, Salesforce, Six Apart</li>
</ul>
<p>YouTube - offers access to the YouTube video repository and community features via a GoogleData (&#8221;GData&#8221;) API.</li>
<li id="p_te">Google apps for your domain
<ul id="true">
<li id="lg0f">Provisioning API is quite compelling</li>
<li id="vb6m">Only for paying users:
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://docs.google.com/File?id=dfcbbn8w_64dgq42dfv_b" rel="lightbox" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/docs.google.com');"><img src="http://docs.google.com/File?id=dfcbbn8w_64dgq42dfv_b" alt="" /></a></p>
</li>
<li id="vb6m">Get a strange exception when trying to use the provisioning API on a free service, that contains no information.
<ul id="nmp1">
<li id="vb6m"><span style="font-family: Courier New;">(&#8217;status&#8217;, &#8216;body&#8217;, &#8216;reason&#8217;)</span><br id="tpkz" /></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="vb6m">Signed up for 30 day trial to test out
<ul id="t:z6">
<li id="vb6m">You need to enable it before it works
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://docs.google.com/File?id=dfcbbn8w_65dc89hzt6_b" rel="lightbox" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/docs.google.com');"><img src="http://docs.google.com/File?id=dfcbbn8w_65dc89hzt6_b" alt="" /></a></p>
</li>
<li id="vb6m">What the <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/apps/gdata_provisioning_api_v2.0_reference_python.html" id="dnpx" title="python library docs" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/code.google.com');">python library docs</a> don&#8217;t tell you is that you need to make an explicit client login before you can do anything (otherwise you get the strange exception above). Kind of bizarre since you need to put authentication information in the AppsService object. e.g. to create a user:</li>
</ul>
<blockquote>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">#!/bin/python</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">import gdata.apps.service</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">service = gdata.apps.service.AppsService(email='ben', domain='bgcooper.com', password='password')</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">user_name = "me"</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">family_name = "Cooper"</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">given_name = "Benjamin"</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">password = "secret"</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">try:</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">    service.ClientLogin('ben@bgcooper.com', 'password')</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">    user = service.CreateUser(user_name, family_name, given_name, password)</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">    print user</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">except gdata.apps.service.AppsForYourDomainException , e:</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: Courier New;">    print e</span></pre>
</blockquote>
<ul id="t:z6">
<li id="vb6m"><span style="font-family: Courier New;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">The result is:
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://docs.google.com/File?id=dfcbbn8w_66gnqbn8fd_b" rel="lightbox" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/docs.google.com');"><img src="http://docs.google.com/File?id=dfcbbn8w_66gnqbn8fd_b" alt="" /></a></p>
<p></span></span><br id="ys1q" /></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="onxn">Twitter - Restful api <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/web/api-documentation" id="nkgu" title="here" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/groups.google.com');">here</a></li>
<li id="n3ab">Perhaps the symantic web is really happening?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="qudf">Searchme Visual Search (Ben)
<ul id="true">
<li id="i7r_">Got an invite to the private beta</li>
<li id="i7r_">Fairly novel interface to searching:
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://docs.google.com/File?id=dfcbbn8w_67hfwmgmp8_b" rel="lightbox" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/docs.google.com');"><img src="http://docs.google.com/File?id=dfcbbn8w_67hfwmgmp8_b" alt="" /></a></p>
</li>
<li id="i7r_">Suggests categories in searching as you type:
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://docs.google.com/File?id=dfcbbn8w_6828zwxdgj_b" rel="lightbox" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/docs.google.com');"><img src="http://docs.google.com/File?id=dfcbbn8w_6828zwxdgj_b" alt="" /></a></p>
</li>
<li id="i7r_">It&#8217;s novel for sure, but all I see with this is one of the big players licensing the technology, not actually competing in this field.<br id="pdze" /></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="l25k">Apple WWDC sessions <a href="http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/sessions/" id="sbe-" title="announced" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/developer.apple.com');">announced</a> (Pete)<a href="http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/sessions/" id="sbe-" title="announced" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/developer.apple.com');"><br id="tb.l" /></a>
<ul id="true">
<li id="d8ve">Huge iPhone track this year
<ul id="true">
<li id="roxf">40 Mac sessions</li>
<li id="roxf">27 iPhone sessions</li>
<li id="roxf">10 IT sessions</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="fus_">I try to go about every other year, not this year</li>
<li id="fus_">Apple Australia no longer puts on sessions?<br id="lt1q" /></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="wn5_">Scalr, open source AWS management tool (Ben)<br id="vdsp" />
<ul id="j3.:">
<li id="wn5_">Write-up <a href="http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2008/04/scalr-.html" id="zq_8" title="here" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/aws.typepad.com');">here</a></li>
<li id="wn5_">At google code <a href="http://code.google.com/p/scalr/" id="b1jx" title="here" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/code.google.com');">here</a></li>
<li id="wn5_">TechCrunch has a good <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/03/scalr-the-auto-scaling-open-source-amazon-ec2-effort/" id="sml2" title="writeup" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.techcrunch.com');">writeup</a></li>
<li id="wn5_">Interesting that the creator is a ruby shop and it&#8217;s a <a href="http://code.google.com/p/scalr/wiki/installation" id="cpl." title="PHP app" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/code.google.com');">PHP app</a>.<br id="m7be" /></li>
<li id="wn5_"><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/04/source-google-to-launch-bigtable-as-web-service/" id="az-t" title="Rumours" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.techcrunch.com');">Rumours</a> are that Google might release <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BigTable" id="sqh0" title="BigTable" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/en.wikipedia.org');">BigTable</a> to compete with Amazon&#8217;s SimpleDB</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<ul id="true">
<li id="l8-v">Sydney Horological Centre (Pete)
<ul id="true">
<li id="qjp4">Pete&#8217;s blog post <a href="http://marxy.org/2008/04/visit-to-sydney-horological-centre.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/marxy.org');">here</a></li>
<li id="qjp4">Clock repair supplies</li>
<li id="qjp4">Good collection of Cuckoo clocks</li>
<li id="qjp4">Amazing that these places still exist</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="h_ld">New linker for GCC <a href="http://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2008-03/msg00162.html" id="mlzm" title="released" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/sourceware.org');">released</a> (Ben)
<ul id="true">
<li id="r.qj">It&#8217;s a total re-write of the linker</li>
<li id="r.qj">5 times faster at linking large c++ projects (but will it improve Gentoo&#8217;s 3 day install?)</li>
<li id="r.qj">Developer Ian Lance Taylor works for Google and has just <a href="http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/04/gold-google-releases-new-and-improved.html" id="ivf5" title="finished" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/google-opensource.blogspot.com');">finished</a> the project</li>
<li id="r.qj">It&#8217;s being widely tested within Google</li>
<li id="r.qj">Shows the excellent computer science being done at Google (if only to solve their own problems)<br id="tve1" /></li>
<li id="r.qj">Called &#8220;gold&#8221; which could be confusing</li>
<li id="r.qj">The speedup effects of this will ripple through everything that uses gcc</li>
<li id="r.qj">Currently beta quality, if you link the Linux kernel it won&#8217;t boot, presumably this bug will be found pretty quickly</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="mqy0">Visualising WSDL with GraphViz (Pete)
<ul id="true">
<li id="blmr">Pete&#8217;s blog post <a href="http://marxy.org/2008/04/visualising-wsdl-with-graphviz-and.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/marxy.org');">here</a></li>
<li id="blmr">Hard to read xml for humans</li>
<li id="z2ji">Wanted a way to visualise the wsdl api</li>
<li id="b9wb">Wrote a little python <a href="http://marxy.org/2008/04/visualising-wsdl-with-graphviz-and.html" id="oifz" title="tool" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/marxy.org');">tool</a> that reads wsdl and outputs dot format</li>
<li id="b9wb">Doesn&#8217;t scale up well, needs some sort of &#8220;pagination&#8221; to divide the api into parts</li>
<li id="b9wb">(as a side note, I&#8217;ve never seen google ad words respond so quickly to a post)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<itunes:subtitle>The MacBook Air is lethal!
In this episode we chat about


	Apologies for lack of show notes in last episode (Ben)

	Tried publishing from Google docs and didn't ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>The MacBook Air is lethal!
In this episode we chat about


	Apologies for lack of show notes in last episode (Ben)

	Tried publishing from Google docs and didn't quite like the formatting
	Tried changing using Wordpress' visual editor and got strange results
	Upgraded to Wordpress 2.5 this week which includes a much improved editor

	Supposedly doesn't interfere with crafted HTML in the code editor


	Attempted the same for these show notes without success. Here is the error from Google docs

(perhaps those extra checks broke something for Google?)
	Pasting Google docs generated HTML looks OK


	Cut myself on the MacBook Air (Pete)

	Really!
	My USB ethernet adapter has failed
	Overall, very happy with the laptop
	Sometimes would like it to be faster


	Websites: Everyone's doing APIs (Ben)

	FaceBook - with some controversy about the data it shares
	LinkedIn are supporting Google'snbsp;OpenSocial

	as are Friendster, MySpace (late to the party), Ning, Plaxo, Salesforce, Six Apart

YouTube - offers access to the YouTube video repository and community features via a GoogleData ("GData") API.
	Google apps for your domain

	Provisioning API is quite compelling
	Only for paying users:


	Get a strange exception when trying to use the provisioning API on a free service, that contains no information.

	('status', 'body', 'reason')


	Signed up for 30 day trial to test out

	You need to enable it before it works


	What the python library docs don't tell you is that you need to make an explicit client login before you can do anything (otherwise you get the strange exception above). Kind of bizarre since you need to put authentication information in the AppsService object. e.g. to create a user:


#!/bin/python
import gdata.apps.service
service = gdata.apps.service.AppsService(email='ben', domain='bgcooper.com', password='password')
user_name = "me"
family_name = "Cooper"
given_name = "Benjamin"
password = "secret"
try:
    service.ClientLogin('ben@bgcooper.com', 'password')
    user = service.CreateUser(user_name, family_name, given_name, password)
    print user
except gdata.apps.service.AppsForYourDomainException , e:
    print e


	The result is:








	Twitter - Restful apinbsp;here
	Perhaps the symantic web is really happening?


	Searchme Visual Search (Ben)

	Got an invite to the private beta
	Fairly novel interface to searching:


	Suggests categories in searching as you type:


	It's novel for sure, but all I see with this is one of the big players licensing the technology, not actually competing in this field.


	Apple WWDC sessionsnbsp;announced (Pete)

	Huge iPhone track this year

	40 Mac sessions
	27 iPhone sessions
	10 IT sessions


	I try to go about every other year, not this year
	Apple Australia no longer puts on sessions?


	Scalr, open source AWS management tool (Ben)

	Write-up here
	At google code here
	TechCrunch has a good writeup
	Interesting that the creator is a ruby shop and it's a PHP app.
	Rumours are that Google might releasenbsp;BigTable to compete with Amazon's SimpleDB




	Sydney Horological Centre (Pete)

	Pete's blog post here
	Clock repair supplies
	Good collection of Cuckoo clocks
	Amazing that these places still exist


	New linker for GCCnbsp;released (Ben)

	It's a total re-write of the linker
	5 times faster at linking large c++ projects (but will it improve Gentoo's 3 day install?)
	Developer Ian Lance Taylor works for Google and has justnbsp;finished the project
	It's being widely tested within Google
	Shows the excellent computer science being done at Google (if only to solve their own problems)
	Called "gold" which could be confusing
	The speedup effects of this will ripple through everything that uses gcc
	Currently beta quality, if you link the Linux kernel it won't boot, presumably this bug will be found pretty quickly


	Visualising WSDL with...</itunes:summary>
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		<itunes:author>Ben Cooper and Peter Marks</itunes:author>
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		<title>A Chat with Ben and Pete - Episode 20</title>
		<link>http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/benandpete/~3/254948955/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bgcooper@gmail.com (Ben Cooper and Peter Marks)</dc:creator>
		
		<category><![CDATA[podcast]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Intro to random topics.
Thanks for the comments Alastair and Geo!
In this episode we chat about:

Ben&#8217;s Time Capsule experience
 OmniFocus 1.0.1 review
 Safari 3.1
 Bicycle news from Ben (he didn&#8217;t get the African Hair Sheep gloves)
 Ham Radio News from Pete

Subscribe in:

iTunes
Everything else

Note: Sorry for the lack of detailed shownotes for this episode. An attempted Google [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intro to random topics.</p>
<p>Thanks for the <a href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35901825&amp;postID=2500275270637949047" id="y5mk" title="comments" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.blogger.com');">comments</a> Alastair and Geo!</p>
<p>In this episode we chat about:</p>
<ul>
<li>Ben&#8217;s Time Capsule experience</li>
<li> OmniFocus 1.0.1 review</li>
<li> Safari 3.1</li>
<li> Bicycle news from Ben (he didn&#8217;t get the <a href="http://www.rapha.cc/index.php?page=59" id="wkb2" title="African Hair Sheep gloves" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.rapha.cc');">African Hair Sheep gloves</a>)</li>
<li> Ham Radio News from Pete</li>
</ul>
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<p><strong>Note:</strong> Sorry for the lack of detailed shownotes for this episode. An attempted Google docs to Wordpress export went <a href="http://twitter.com/bgcooper/statuses/774430158" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/twitter.com');">awry</a>.</p>
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<itunes:duration>27:21</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:subtitle>Intro to random topics.

Thanks for the comments Alastair and Geo!

In this episode we chat about:

	Ben's Time Capsule experience
	 OmniFocus 1.0.1 review
	 Safari 3.1
	 Bicycle news ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Intro to random topics.

Thanks for the comments Alastair and Geo!

In this episode we chat about:

	Ben's Time Capsule experience
	 OmniFocus 1.0.1 review
	 Safari 3.1
	 Bicycle news from Ben (he didn't get the African Hair Sheep gloves)
	 Ham Radio News from Pete

Subscribe in:

	iTunes
	Everything else

Note: Sorry for the lack of detailed shownotes for this episode. An attempted Google docs to Wordpress export went awry.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:keywords>podcast</itunes:keywords>
		<itunes:author>Ben Cooper and Peter Marks</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
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		<title>A Chat with Ben and Pete - Episode 19</title>
		<link>http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/benandpete/~3/248500744/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bgcooper@gmail.com (Ben Cooper and Peter Marks)</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[iPhone 2.0
This week we talk about:

About the podcast

Change of name?
Suggestions and Feedback? Perhaps we should talk in more depth about topics?


iPhone 2.0 software launch and SDK

Ben hasn&#8217;t been able to get the SDK yet:

Friday signed up to get the SDK and all day the email link didn&#8217;t work
Saturday email link worked, logged in to find [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iPhone 2.0</p>
<p>This week we talk about:</p>
<ul>
<li>About the podcast
<ul>
<li>Change of name?</li>
<li>Suggestions and Feedback? Perhaps we should talk in more depth about topics?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>iPhone 2.0 software launch and SDK
<ul>
<li>Ben hasn&#8217;t been able to get the SDK yet:
<ul>
<li>Friday signed up to get the SDK and all day the email link didn&#8217;t work</li>
<li>Saturday email link worked, logged in to find a page without functionality</li>
<li>Hit a link to download SDK and got back to the register to download page again.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Engadget posts an excellent SDK comparison <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/06/iphone-sdk-comparison-chart/" title="chart" id="e_25" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.engadget.com');">chart</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Internet Explorer 8 beta
<ul>
<li>Supports CSS 2.1 and they have <a href="http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/03/05/ie8_standards_support/" title="open sourced" id="kp7i" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.regdeveloper.co.uk');">open sourced</a> their CSS test suite</li>
<li>Mashups built in:
<ul>
<li>Activities. You can do things like select an address, right click and go straight to maps (or see a preview in the menu)</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Web Slices. A good example is <a href="http://ie8.ebay.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/ie8.ebay.com');">eBay</a> where you can follow an item and place a bid directly from the toolbar</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>They&#8217;re not going all out. SVG is still <a href="http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/03/06/ie8_standards_roadmap/" title="unsupported" id="sowk" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.regdeveloper.co.uk');">unsupported</a></li>
<li>It has a javascript debugger!</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Google Sites
<ul>
<li>Last week Google launched <a href="http://sites.google.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/sites.google.com');">sites.google.com</a> (built from jotspot)</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px">You need to have your own domain with a email account at that domain to get started</li>
<li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px">Features:
<ul>
<li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px">It uses a wiki style of editing of pages</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px">Very simple &#8220;list&#8221; feature that can be used for simple database tables</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px">Built in search</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px">Navigation tree</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px">Editable nav bar, logos etc</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px">Create page: web page, dashboard, announcements, file cabinet, list
<ul style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px">
<li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px">Dashboards are made up of &#8220;gadgets&#8221; such as image, calendar, document, picasa web slideshow, presentation, spreadsheet, video, recent items&#8230;</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px">It certainly is designed to bring together all the Google Apps</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Silverlight 2
<ul>
<li>We all saw the impressive World Wide telescope <a href="http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/224" title="demo" id="cbek" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.ted.com');">demo</a> at Ted, and the <a href="http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/129" title="intro" id="k_vt" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.ted.com');">intro</a> to the technology at last year&#8217;s Ted</li>
<li>The Hard Rock Cafe launched it&#8217;s new memorabilia web site at the mix conference with a very impressive <a href="http://www.visitmix.com/blogs/News/Mix-Keynote-Hard-Rock-Demo/" title="demo" id="kze-" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.visitmix.com');">demo</a> of Seadragon in Silverlight 2 (it&#8217;s live <a href="http://memorabilia.hardrock.com/" title="here" id="rjhz" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/memorabilia.hardrock.com');">here</a>)</li>
<li>A good article about data and web services support in Silverlight 2 is on <a href="http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/03/06/ie8_standards_roadmap/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.regdeveloper.co.uk');">The </a><a href="http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/03/06/ie8_standards_roadmap/" id="ogs3" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.regdeveloper.co.uk');">Register</a>
<ul>
<li>SOAP support by importing WSDL / generic XML support (like YUI?) / JSON support</li>
<li>No REST however.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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<itunes:duration>24:00</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:subtitle>iPhone 2.0

This week we talk about:

	About the podcast

	Change of name?
	Suggestions and Feedback? Perhaps we should talk in more depth about topics?


	iPhone 2.0 software launch and ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>iPhone 2.0

This week we talk about:

	About the podcast

	Change of name?
	Suggestions and Feedback? Perhaps we should talk in more depth about topics?


	iPhone 2.0 software launch and SDK

	Ben hasn't been able to get the SDK yet:

	Friday signed up to get the SDK and all day the email link didn't work
	Saturday email link worked, logged in to find a page without functionality
	Hit a link to download SDK and got back to the register to download page again.


	Engadget posts an excellent SDK comparison chart


	Internet Explorer 8 beta

	Supports CSS 2.1 and they have open sourced their CSS test suite
	Mashups built in:

	Activities. You can do things like select an address, right click and go straight to maps (or see a preview in the menu)


	Web Slices. A good example is eBay where you can follow an item and place a bid directly from the toolbar


	They're not going all out. SVG is still unsupported
	It has a javascript debugger!


	Google Sites

	Last week Google launched sites.google.com (built from jotspot)


You need to have your own domain with a email account at that domain to get started
Features:

It uses a wiki style of editing of pages


Very simple "list" feature that can be used for simple database tables


Built in search


Navigation tree


Editable nav bar, logos etc


Create page: web page, dashboard, announcements, file cabinet, list

Dashboards are made up of "gadgets" such as image, calendar, document, picasa web slideshow, presentation, spreadsheet, video, recent items...




It certainly is designed to bring together all the Google Apps


	Silverlight 2

	We all saw the impressive World Wide telescope demo at Ted, and the intro to the technology at last year's Ted
	The Hard Rock Cafe launched it's new memorabilia web site at the mix conference with a very impressive demo of Seadragon in Silverlight 2 (it's live here)
	A good article about data and web services support in Silverlight 2 is on The Register

	SOAP support by importing WSDL / generic XML support (like YUI?) / JSON support
	No REST however.




</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:keywords>podcast</itunes:keywords>
		<itunes:author>Ben Cooper and Peter Marks</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:block>No</itunes:block>
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		<title>A Chat with Ben and Pete - Episode 18</title>
		<link>http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/benandpete/~3/240357446/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bgcooper@gmail.com (Ben Cooper and Peter Marks)</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[WiFi Balloons!
This week we talk about:

Microsoft opening up?

 They&#8217;ve published the file formats for Office documents
Now they&#8217;ve published thousands of API definitions and are encouraging open source interoperability
RedHat is skeptical
The EU expresses doubt


Google news for video?

Check out NewsClipper
TechCrunch story here


GSM encryption broken

Researchers at a Black Hat conference in Washington claim to be able to listen [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WiFi Balloons!</p>
<p>This week we talk about:</p>
<ul>
<li>Microsoft opening up?
<ul>
<li> They&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/interop/docs/OfficeBinaryFormats.mspx" title="published" id="ar1x" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.microsoft.com');">published</a> the file formats for Office documents</li>
<li>Now they&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/interop/default.mspx" title="published" id="lhqk" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.microsoft.com');">published</a> thousands of API definitions and are encouraging open source interoperability</li>
<li>RedHat is <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20080222/bs_nf/58479" title="skeptical" id="g59u" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/news.yahoo.com');">skeptical</a></li>
<li>The EU <a href="http://www.news.com/EU-regulators-cool-on-Microsoft-open-source-move/2100-7344_3-6231525.html?part=rss&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-20&amp;subj=news" title="expresses doubt" id="x9v3" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.news.com');">expresses doubt</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Google news for video?
<ul>
<li>Check out <a href="http://www.newsclipper.org/" title="NewsClipper" id="bce4" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.newsclipper.org');">NewsClipper</a></li>
<li>TechCrunch story <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/20/newsclipper-brings-all-the-news-video-from-around-the-web-to-one-place/" title="here" id="k0d6" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.techcrunch.com');">here</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>GSM encryption broken
<ul>
<li>Researchers at a Black Hat conference in Washington <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206800800&amp;cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All" title="claim" id="hwsw" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.informationweek.com');">claim</a> to be able to listen in to GSM phone conversations with $1000 worth of equipment</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Balloon WiFi
<ul>
<li>Google <a href="http://gigaom.com/2008/02/20/google-its-99-broadband-balloons/" title="may buy" id="rnhn" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/gigaom.com');">may team up with</a> Space Data Corp., which provides wifi and cellular services via weather balloons</li>
<li>Original story in the <a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB120347353988378955.html" title="WSJ" id="twrg" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/online.wsj.com');">Wall Street Journal</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Document collaboration with SubEthaEdit
<ul>
<li>Check out <a href="http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.codingmonkeys.de');">SubEthaEdit</a></li>
<li>Very cool document collaboration:</li>
</ul>
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<itunes:duration>21:09</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:subtitle>WiFi Balloons!

This week we talk about:

	Microsoft opening up?

	 They've published the file formats for Office documents
	Now they've published thousands of API definitions and are encouraging ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>WiFi Balloons!

This week we talk about:

	Microsoft opening up?

	 They've published the file formats for Office documents
	Now they've published thousands of API definitions and are encouraging open source interoperability
	RedHat is skeptical
	The EU expresses doubt


	Google news for video?

	Check out NewsClipper
	TechCrunch story here


	GSM encryption broken

	Researchers at a Black Hat conference in Washington claim to be able to listen in to GSM phone conversations with $1000 worth of equipment


	Balloon WiFi

	Google may team up with Space Data Corp., which provides wifi and cellular services via weather balloons
	Original story in the Wall Street Journal


	Document collaboration with SubEthaEdit

	Check out SubEthaEdit
	Very cool document collaboration:



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		<title>A Chat with Ben and Pete - Episode 17</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bgcooper@gmail.com (Ben Cooper and Peter Marks)</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[A New Trend in Openness.
This week we chat about:

Follow up

HFS: The Good &#38; The Bad
No More Tasting: It&#8217;s a Bad Year To Be a Registrar 


XML is only 10 years old?

XML People
XML: History


Symbian touch interface is horrible

Nokia&#8217;s Touch UI Hands-On: Officially Way Behind Apple


New browsers take 2

First look: Firefox 3 beta 3 polishes rough edges
Beta [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A New Trend in Openness.</p>
<p>This week we chat about:</p>
<ul>
<li>Follow up
<ul>
<li><a href="http://rixstep.com/2/2/20070718,00.shtml" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/rixstep.com');">HFS: The Good &amp; The Bad</a></li>
<li><a href="http://gigaom.com/2008/02/16/google-apps-no-more-tasting-it%E2%80%99s-a-bad-year-to-be-a-registrar/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/gigaom.com');">No More Tasting: It&#8217;s a Bad Year To Be a Registrar </a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>XML is only 10 years old?
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/02/10/XML-People" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.tbray.org');">XML People</a></li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML#History" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/en.wikipedia.org');">XML: History</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Symbian touch interface is horrible
<ul>
<li><a href="http://gizmodo.com/355044/nokias-touch-ui-hands+on-officially-way-behind-apple" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/gizmodo.com');">Nokia&#8217;s Touch UI Hands-On: Officially Way Behind Apple</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>New browsers take 2
<ul>
<li><a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-firefox-3-beta-3.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/arstechnica.com');">First look: Firefox 3 beta 3 polishes rough edges</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ventnorsblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/beta-3.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/ventnorsblog.blogspot.com');">Beta 3!</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>AppleTV take 2</li>
<li>Mac OS X 10.5.2
<ul>
<li><a href="http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=434686" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/forums.macrumors.com');">10.5.2 Stack as Folder won&#8217;t update on added files</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>WiMAX VoIP Mobile Phone
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/02/14/wimax-enabled-voip-phone-showcased-at-mobile-world-congress/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.engadgetmobile.com');">WiMAX-enabled VoIP phone showcased at Mobile World Congress</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>High Performance Enabled SSH
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.psc.edu');">HPN-SSH</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Amazon Web Services outage
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/15/amazon-web-services-goes-down-takes-many-startup-sites-with-it/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.techcrunch.com');">Amazon Web Services Goes Down, Takes Many Startup Sites With It</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2008/02/why_s3_failed.php" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.roughtype.com');">Why S3 Failed</a></li>
<li>A <a href="http://system.opendns.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/system.opendns.com');">new trend</a> in <a href="http://trust.salesforce.com/trust/status/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/trust.salesforce.com');">openness</a>?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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<itunes:duration>31:08</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:subtitle>A New Trend in Openness.

This week we chat about:

	Follow up

	HFS: The Good #38; The Bad
	No More Tasting: It's a Bad Year To Be a Registrar ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>A New Trend in Openness.

This week we chat about:

	Follow up

	HFS: The Good #38; The Bad
	No More Tasting: It's a Bad Year To Be a Registrar 


	XML is only 10 years old?

	XML People
	XML: History


	Symbian touch interface is horrible

	Nokia's Touch UI Hands-On: Officially Way Behind Apple


	New browsers take 2

	First look: Firefox 3 beta 3 polishes rough edges
	Beta 3!


	AppleTV take 2
	Mac OS X 10.5.2

	10.5.2 Stack as Folder won't update on added files


	WiMAX VoIP Mobile Phone

	WiMAX-enabled VoIP phone showcased at Mobile World Congress


	High Performance Enabled SSH

	HPN-SSH


	Amazon Web Services outage

	Amazon Web Services Goes Down, Takes Many Startup Sites With It
	Why S3 Failed
	A new trend in openness?



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