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Show #429 - Mrs. Marguerite Oswald

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:00:00 -0700

Marguerite Oswald Reads Lee Harvey Oswald's Letters from Russia
She is convinced he was innocent of any murder
The Oswald's were a Military family...
Has stated her belief that "Lee was an agent of the US. Government"
For 20 months Marguerite had no idea what had happened to Lee
She then approached the State Department in Washington DC
About 4 weeks later she received news of him in the USSR and his mailing address
She hopes the reading of his letters will show Lee as a good person
Lee asks for American literature, particularly magazines rather than other things
He was concerned with the cost of shipping for his mother
Marguerite points out that Lee wanted Marina 'to learn english'
Later news reports had Lee preventing Marina from learning the language
Lee sent many photos of Minsk and Leningrad
Marguerite takes time to point out Lee's humanity
Lee applies for exit visas for himself and Marina
He only requires an affidavit of support for Marina filed from the USA
He also believes he will be flying to America... An extremely expensive thing in those days
He asked for 1959 newspaper clippings from Fort Worth to tell what was said about him
He was easily allowed to apply for a travel loan through the American Embassy in Moscow...
... This seems strange for a defector
Lee was by all accounts, an average family man
Why would the Department Of State bother to give Marguerite Lee's USSR address?
Rather than souvenirs of his homeland, he only wanted current news... as if he anticipated returning
Lee had little trouble arranging an exit from the USSR
He had little trouble arranging a loan to return... on what collateral was this loan based?
Why was Lee concerned with selling his story to the papers?...
Was he worried something might be said that could blow his cover?
Lee was not detained upon his arrival as a suspected Russian spy...
...Why not?

Show #428 Part 1 - Jim DiEugenio

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:00:03 -0700

Jim talks about his ARRB testimony
Declassified and classified documents
Clay Shaw's entire file will never be totally declassified... Jim believes much has been destroyed
Oswald's tax records were never released because Marina never signed off on them
Harry Connick Sr. wanted to destroy the Jim Garrison files
Did Oswald actually carry the paper curtain rod bag to work that day?
Jim doesn't believe he did
Ian Griggs proved the bag could not have carried a disassembled rifle in that bag
The curtain rod story never came from Oswald. He only brought a bagged lunch
Ian Griggs: If there is no bag, there is no rifle and no case against Oswald
Len's working on a call-in segment to the show!
Jim relates a book written about a conference on whether or not the Vietnam war would have escalated under Kennedy
The book and video are called Virtual JFK... Jim recommends it
The video is good... The book is better
Meeting with Charles DeGaulle and General MacArthur convinced Kennedy not to go to war in Vietnam
Controversy over the book, 'JFK & Vietnam,' a timely and well researched book
The book caused a slow paradigm shift, causing history to show Kennedy wanted out of Vietnam
All of the generals and advisors wanted Kennedy to go into Vietnam
Kennedy's closest advisors, in the end, were unanimous that Kennedy wasn't going into Vietnam
McNamara simply couldn't remember Kennedy's policy even though he was instrumental in implementing it
Stone's JFK went easy on LBJ. Johnson recalled Rostow so he could escalate the war

Show #428 Part 2 - Jim DiEugenio

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:00:02 -0700

Johnson begins escalation within 48 hours of Kennedy's death
Johnson knew ahead of time of Kennedy's intentions
He tried to get McNamara to blame Vietnam on Kennedy's inexperience
If Johnson knew, then everyone in the White House knew Kennedy wanted out of Vietnam
Kennedy had learned to get away from the Cold War state of mind. Johnson never did
NSAM 273 changes began before Kennedy's death. Kennedy didn't write it. Who did?
Jim's opinion: The policy changes don't necessarily mean the staff were making plans...
Len suggests the authors knew Kennedy was going to be killed
It's likely a suggestion to be floated by Kennedy which he would surely have shot down
The gaps in the Pentagon Papers were filled in with Kennedy withdrawal policy
Somebody removed those sections and altered the record... Prouty had said this
All the bombing and major weapons use could not have won the war in Vietnam. It was a guerilla war
The Gravel edition is the complete, if not flawed Pentagon Papers

Show #428 Part 3 - Fletcher Prouty

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:00:01 -0700

Johnson begins escalation within 48 hours of Kennedy's death
Johnson knew ahead of time of Kennedy's intentions
He tried to get McNamara to blame Vietnam on Kennedy's inexperience
If Johnson knew, then everyone in the White House knew Kennedy wanted out of Vietnam
Kennedy had learned to get away from the Cold War state of mind. Johnson never did
NSAM 273 changes began before Kennedy's death. Kennedy didn't write it. Who did?
Jim's opinion: The policy changes don't necessarily mean the staff were making plans...
Len suggests the authors knew Kennedy was going to be killed
It's likely a suggestion to be floated by Kennedy which he would surely have shot down
The gaps in the Pentagon Papers were filled in with Kennedy withdrawal policy
Somebody removed those sections and altered the record... Prouty had said this
All the bombing and major weapons use could not have won the war in Vietnam. It was a guerilla war
The Gravel edition is the complete, if not flawed Pentagon Papers

Show #428 Part 4 - Fletcher Prouty

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:00:00 -0700

Discussion of drafts of NSAM 273
Calls for reversal of NSAM 263 one day before JFK's murder
The entire US cabinet were on their way to Tokyo when Kennedy was shot
The entire cabinet heading to a single location had never happened before
McGeorge Bundy not in Honolulu for this conference?...
...The official record says he was
"Ambassador Lodge confers with the president" ... a strange quote from the record
Bill Bundy had no knowledge of NSAM 273
NSAM's 263 & 273 have both been misfiled in F.R.U.S.

Show #427 - David Ray Griffin

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:00:00 -0700

David Ray Griffin's website: DavidRayGriffin.com
David talks about his books and the ultimate updating of "The New Pearl Harbor"
"The New Pearl Harbor Revisited" is a continuation of it's earlier namesake, not a replacement
Even the chapters are mirrored and designed as an update
Griffin: "The official story is not only absurd but it is physically impossible"
The mainstream media has been all but totally blacked out on this book
A crack in the media shell: Harpers Weekly gives the book a good review
Fox does it again, using a tragic news story out of context to smear the 9/11 Truth movement
Griffin's new book, 'Osama Bin Laden: Dead Or Alive' is self explanatory in its title
David presents evidence that Bin Laden has likely been dead for a very long time
He presents the argument that most of the recent audios and videos of Bin Laden are fakes
The book is not a 9/11 who-done-it. It simply focuses on the title question
Osama was never been wanted for 9/11... There's no hard evidence he did it
The "Boasting Bin Laden" tape not considered authentic by the FBI or Dept. of Justice
All of the things Bin Laden had to orchestrate on 9/11 make the official story completely unreasonable
The media called Mohamed Atta a devout Muslim
Atta clearly did anti-Muslim acts in the weeks leading to 9/11 such as drinking alcohol and eating pork
Literally hundreds of facts contradict the official story. The media simply ignores what they can't explain
In spite of great ratings on 9/11 truth, the media defends the official story against common sense
Today's interest in 9/11
Enormous numbers in many professions are convinced the official story is not true

Show #426 Part 1 - Cyril Wecht

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:00:02 -0700

Cyril's 4 1/2 year ordeal with the courts has finally come to a successful end
The case in general was ruled unconstitutional and illegal
Mary Beth Buchanan used her office to try to discredit Wecht, a Democrat
He also names Karl Rove and John Ashcroft as being involved
Listing some Bush political appointments
Limbaugh and Cheney speak for the GOP but don't speak for decent upstanding republicans
The Limbaugh and Cheney campaign serves to drive good republicans to the democrat side
In a better world these people would all be charged and convicted for their crimes
The compromising of US heads of state
Wecht has been driven deep into debt by this case not to mention the emotional toll on he and his family

Show #426 Part 2 - Jim DiEugenio

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:00:01 -0700

"Inside the Target Car" -- Lies and distortions from Gary Mack and the Sixth Floor. Jim has begun a review
Some of the provable lies told by Gary Mack
John McAdams still... The laughing stock of the internet
What happened to the 7.65 Mauser?
Gary Mack admits to a frontal shot?... A CONSPIRACY?...
More on Mack to come...
A review of the Pat Speer DVD, - "The Mysterious Death of 35"
The JFK skull photo... upside down and later depictions concocted
The photo presented as the anterior of the skull was actually the posterior
Jim lists a number of researchers that the Warren Commission were up against... Covering up is difficult
A CBS show that was was to be a free and open debate that became a pro-Warren Commission show
The compromising of the doctors at Bethesda and how it affects the official outcome

Show #426 Part 3 - Jim DiEugenio

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:00:00 -0700

Jim Garrison background
Joan Mellen's book, "Jim Garrison: His Life And Times," -- overall a good book
Garrison never knew his father after the age of six years old
Pershing Gervais met Garrison and became an investigator for him
Jim Garrison was a WWII pilot in small reconnaissance aircraft
His work as First Assistant District Attorney
...A corrupt New Orleans police department
Guy Bannister comes to New Orleans
Garrison investigates vote fraud and endangers and eventually loses his job
He begins to clean up New Orleans as D.A.
He was disliked by many for this
The people that disliked him prevented Garrison from identifying Clay Bertrand as Clay Shaw
Garrison takes on the New Orleans judges
A few other notable cases that Garrison tried
Garrison turned down a bank charter and several other appointments to to stay in the DA's office
Each appointment would have made him wealthy but he chose to do the right thing
Garrison shows continually by his actions that he was a just and moral man

Show #425 Part 1 - Joe Green

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 28 May 2009 18:00:04 -0700

Joe is a COPA member
How Joe became interested and involved in assassination research
Joes website is DissentingView.net
Links to his other written works are found there as well
People get involved because they don't buy the official story.
Knowing the past in this sense allows one to see the future more clearly when it comes...
Because we see conspiracies in assassination research, we'll be better able to identify them in future events
The JFK 10-point program can be found at CTKA.net
Many of the people that were prominent in the JFK era admitted the official story was concocted
At this point, not only can we easily throw out the 'Lone Nut' theory, You can also toss away the 'Mafia-Did-It' theory
Many researchers who have written inaccurate works are well intentioned and many improve their works in later times
Discussion of researchers and methods in general
Joe suggests that, to form a power base and exert pressure on the politicos, we should form a lobbying group
The lunacy of the Joint Chiefs in suggesting operations such as "Northwoods"

Show #425 Part 2 - Mark Lane

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 28 May 2009 18:00:03 -0700

Mark Lane testimony to the Warren Commission

Oswald Innocent? A Lawyer’s Brief - From Dec. 19, 1963, issue of the GUARDIAN, written by attorney Mark Lane.
Lane talks about his Warren Commission testimony
He represented Lee Harvey Oswald posthumously
The backyard pictures... doctored
In several pictures the pictures were identical except each had a different rifle
A glossy picture requested by Lane was refused by AP... for strange reasons
A witness to the Tippit shooting, shot afterward by a girlfriend
The girlfriend had been a stripper at The Carousel Club
She hung herself to death in custody later?
The tracheostomy performed through a bullet wound in the front of the throat... Shot from the front!
The prosecutors were devoted only to the Oswald, "Lone Nut" theory, never changing no matter what the evidence
The original story tried to show Oswald shooting as the limo approached the TSBD
The story changed when the obvious evidence could not support this
Life Magazine tried to say JFK turned completely around and was shot in the throat... which he, of course, never did

Show #425 Part 3 - Mark Lane

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 28 May 2009 18:00:02 -0700

Oswald's Political Background

The murder weapon changes early on
Identifying Oswald... Someone had to have informed on him
The speed and accuracy of the Mannlicher Carcano is questionable at best
The ammunition was extremely faulty with many hang-fires and duds
Only an expert could have possibly performed the shooting... Oswald was a poor shot
Reasons why Oswald could never have practiced on weekends at any rifle range
A gunsmith had mounted a scope for "an Oswald" but it could not have been a Mannlicher Carcano
The Carcano was apparently sent with a scope mounted already
Fingerprints found on the rifle and boxes could not have been Oswald's
Daryl Click, the apparent taxi getaway driver did not exist
The paraffin test proved negative to facial powder burns... Oswald never fired a gun that day
The Tippit murderer could not have been Oswald. The eyewitness described a different man

Show #425 Part 4 - Mark Lane

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 28 May 2009 18:00:01 -0700

Beginning of Medical Testimony

The difficulty in examining the tracheostomy as a gunshot wound also
Lane concludes the neck wound testimony by saying it had to be a front shot
There was never a roadblock or a cessation of transport to assist the investigation...
...Oswald was already set-up as the assassin. The powers that be had made their mind up
Statements made by Jean Hill & Mary Moorman: None of the shots came from the TSBD!
...Hill: The shots came from the 'Grassy Knoll' area
...A person at the Knoll ran onto the triple overpass... Probably one of the assassins
Woodward: The shots came from the direction of the overpass and not from the TSBD
More than 3 shots were fired
The Secret Service and FBI agents pushed her to limit the shots to three
...She would not. She insisted there were more
Employees of the TSBD testified the shots came from the Grassy Knoll/Overpass area
All the witnesses said the shots came from the direction of the Grassy Knoll/Overpass area yet...
...the TSBD was searched.
The two people who ran into the building both thought the shots didn't come from there
Police Chief Jesse Curry was the only person that believed the TSBD was where the shots came from
The limo came to almost a complete stop after the first shot!
Lane contends if the shots came from the front, it would explain the hesitance to drive that direction
If the shots came from the rear, the expectation would be to accelerate, not stop
The original rifle was a German 765 Mauser, not an Italian Mannlicher Carcano

Show #425 Part 5 - Mark Lane

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 28 May 2009 18:00:00 -0700

Beginning Narrative As Presented By Dallas DA to Conclusion

Oswald had sufficient money to purchase a much better rifle
He went to Irving Texas and bought the piece of junk called a Mannlicher Carcano
The rifle was the only one that could possibly have been traced to him
(all of this is contingent on the idea that he actually purchased the gun)
Presidential protection everywhere was extremely tight...
...yet Oswald apparently walked into the TSBD with an assembled rifle?
Oswald passed up his best shot, as the car approached the building
He instead chose to shoot as the limo was driving away... and through the foliage of a tree
Oswald went 7 blocks to catch a bus that would bring him toward the TSBD?
(The first escape by mass transit ever)
Apparently, upon reaching the TSBD, it is alleged that he caught a taxi a half mile past his home
After all this, allegedly he shot a policeman and then went to the movies
Does all of this make sense?
The interviews after his arrest showed him as very calm for an accused assassin
Mark appeals for the right to represent Oswald at the request of Oswald's mother
Oswald was denied his right to due process by the denial of Lane to represent him
He points out the Warren Commission would be excused as jury members in an Oswald trial
Conflict of interest would prove them all unsuitable
The president of the American Bar Association performed the duties as council to Oswald
Mark Lane was denied this right even though it is what the relatives wanted

Show #424 Part 1 - John Hankey

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 21 May 2009 18:00:01 -0700

John gives a brief history of his 30 years in assassination research
John's website BushKilledJFK.com
focuses on involvement in JFK's assassination and possible involvement in JFK Jr's death
Hoover left documentary evidence that George Bush Sr. was involved in the JFK assassination
Video Excerpt from Dark Lagacy
John states that he believes a "manchurian candidate" killed JFK Jr
About Gary Webb and Michael Ruppert
John stated Webb needed an autopsy and none ever happened
Evidence GHW Bush was CIA right out of Yale
John calls Dulles a CIA front and Prescott Bush as the real CIA Chief
He refers to an article he wrote for Rense.com
He details how the international bankers and not necessarily the Nazis were responsible for the Holocaust
Prescott Bush was a Wall Street banker during WWII for Theissen Bank... an international bank
The international bankers were represented by the Harrimans and the Rockefellers in America
Says Prescott Bush was Harriman's "bag man"
John has a 15 minute video he asks everyone to watch on 9/11 from his website

Show #424 Part 2 - John Simkin

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 21 May 2009 18:00:00 -0700

A former history teacher, Simkin began Spartacus as an information source on assassinations and the CIA
The forum is a great way to debate this and other information
John's website is the famous Spartacus.net
Spartacus is possibly the premiere web source for assassination fact
Simkin's Bio at Spartacus
He explains how he became involved in assassination research
Exposing Donald Bohning...
Donald Bohning is the CIA's media asset "AMCARBON-3".
Discussion of Donald Bohning at the Education Forum
Joan Mellen revealed Donald Bohning in "A Farewell To Justice"
Released from the CIA...
- Document 1
- Document 2
- John Simkin reply to "The Intelligencer"
Operation 40 and The Bay Of Pigs operation
How the participants, as CIA assets try to control their press and rewrite their history
John does his best to put forward both sides of arguments and this allows the audience to see the truth
In spite of the efforts at truth, CIA assets still write disinformation on the assassinations
The difficulties getting truth on assassination or intelligence subjects published in the media
It seems that as soon as a publisher sees the subject matter they run hard the other way
The usefulness of the internet in getting information to people that the media won't publish
The internet is a "strength in numbers" kind of thing... They can't stop us all
Why are assassination documents being held for so long?
What is it they don't want us to know?

Show #423 - Judge Joe Brown

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 14 May 2009 18:00:00 -0700

What King's assassination meant to Judge Brown and that time
How American's have given up their freedoms through fear
Judge Brown states the Who isn't as important as the What and the Why
His experience with the ballistics in the case and his qualifications
The rifle and comparisons to other rifles
Brown is appalled with recent changes in the law concerning terrorism
The FBI damaged the evidence bullet
The judge doesn't believe James Earl Ray had the wherewithal to have carried out the assassination
The Ramparts scandal in Los Angeles
The MLK coroner was completely corrupt
Bore-sighting a rifle... explains a colonator
No investigator stood where King was shot and looked around
The tower at the fire station
King's all black security detail called to a meeting
One officer refused to go to the meeting and he was hog-tied and tossed into a squad car
The trajectories of the bullets
How Outers Foul Out works... a reverse plating process
The first detective on the scene was directed to interview a witness
The witness was passed out drunk and could not have witnessed anything
Explaining how the bathroom shot could not be done
James Earl Ray never confessed
The death of Judge Battle does not cause the setting aside of the plea
Judge Brown's stellar reversal record
Government (FBI) was discussing whether King was better off dead or alive
Judge Brown talks about the tradition of racially motivated murders in and around Memphis
Commentary on the media ignorance of the case
Reporters no longer have the knowledge they need to report stories properly
The differences in media approaches in different countries
Judge Brown observes things that were wrong with the Ray case are now enacted into laws

Show #422 Part 1 - Russ Baker

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 07 May 2009 18:00:01 -0700

Why another book on Bush?
Russ gives a brief background of himself
www.familyofsecrets.com
He begins by talking about George H. W. Bush's intelligence background
George H. W. Bush finally documented as being in Dallas the day of the JFK assassination
About Prescott Bush... Nazi front banker
The links all the way to the present
Not just a criticism of George W. but an exposé of the history of the Bush's
A description of how the upper crust sees the world... Oligarchs
Trusted friends are repaid with prominent appointments
How, as a journalist, Russ discovered JFK links... Not just a conspiracy theory!
George DeMohrenschildt and George H. W. Bush
During the JFK assassination era, two George Bush's?
Covert operatives such as... Karl Rove, dirty tricks expert
Harriet Myers cleaned up George W.'s record
George W. heads many failing businesses... Why him?
The corrupt system. How do we clean up American government?
Baker tries (and succeeds) to piece a tough world view together with this book
It is important not to narrow your field of interest too much
Nixon appoints obscure Poppy Bush to several prominent posts...
...Nixon owed Prescott Bush favours
The entire government riddled with CIA appointments
The forces that removed JFK and Nixon and discredited Carter... The very same
Russ Baker's other websites: whowhatwhy.com and russbaker.com

Show #422 Part 2 - Jim DiEugenio

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 07 May 2009 18:00:00 -0700

The Puppet and the Puppet Masters Part 1 and Part 2
Jim doesn't believe Gonzalez and Dubois wrote the second Puppetmasters article
He believes James Phelan was the likely author
Phelan a 'bought and sold' author... CIA
The Mormon Mafia incapacitated Howard Hughes with drugs and stole his empire
Something happened at Playboy to stop Part 2 from becoming a decent article
Lamar Waldron and Thomas Hartmann not only screw up the JFK assassination, but also the RFK and MLK assassinations
Grace Steven's institutionalized for being a credible witness to disprove James Earl Ray as an assassin
Legacy of Secrecy completely leaves out Judge Joe Brown
Self hypnosis all but impossible... Sirhan couldn't have done it
Michael Wien (Michael Wayne) and Khyber Khan
The book says Thane Cesar did not shoot RFK yet he was the ONLY person in the perfect position to
The bumbling Watergate burglars... really a setup job focusing on the removal of Nixon
While Legacy of Secrecy has a couple of decent points, in general the book is trash
Arlen Specter flips to the Democrats... Why would they want him?
Jim runs through the absurdity of the single bullet theory and manipulating witnesses
John McAdams less than zero The Laughing Stock of the Internet... still
Specter: Nothing but a liar and opportunist
Democrats that should be elected in Specter's place
New movie recomendation from Len - Who Killed John O'Neill
Several things Jim is working on

Show #421 Part 1 - Len Osanic

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:00:01 -0700

Len talks about how he became interested in the JFK assassination
How he met Col. Prouty and started Black Op Radio
The Col. Prouty Reference Site www.prouty.org
The Ballad Of Ed Lansdale - Song and Lyrics
About Ed Lansdale and his role in electing Magsaysay and the Bay of Pigs
Lansdale worked fore C.A.R.E. after his U.S. Air Force retirement

Show #421 Part 2 - Col. Fletcher Prouty

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:00:00 -0700

Question to Col. Prouty: How would you have investigated the JFK assassination?
Prouty gives several basic and logical statements in his answer
"I think within 6 or 8 hours, we would have solved the crime." - Col. Prouty
The minute we move away from the lone nut theory then there must be a "WHY"
4 points that caused the Military Industrial Complex to get rid of JFK
Kennedy's suggestion to merge NASA with the Soviet Space Agency...
Restructuring the TFX program and weapons procurement...
NSAM #263 - Getting all Americans out of Vietnam by the end of '65...
Seeing a Kennedy dynasty with their policies beginning...
The U.S. military augmenting the Secret Service in protection of the President
How, in the Dallas case, the military was made to "stand down"
...They assumed if they were standing down, some other group would take over...
...This never happened! - Prouty
Re-routing the parade route at the eleventh hour...
False Dallas Policemen, phony Secret Service, Re-arranging Zapruder film frames...
...staging a strange autopsy, Covering up these things all this time...
...Only the government could do all of these things!
Jim Garrison was essentially correct in his basic thesis
The 'Tramp' pictures - Several strange anomalies!
CIA "Retired" General Ed Lansdale in the first photo. Why?
Prouty sends the pictures out to several acquaintances for analysis
They came back with the same answer - "That's Ed Lansdale"
The New Zealand news story and the timing of it

Show #420 Part 1 - Pat Valentino

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:00:02 -0700

Pat's early research and how he came to know David Lifton
Valentino and Lifton give the Dallas Doctors the first look at the autopsy photos
The doctors, to a man, did not recognize the official injuries
Lifton will be releasing his new book soon
Pat and David Lifton will be collaborating on an extensive JFK evidence documentary
They promise to both be on Black Op in the near future to discuss the new book
Many parallels in the assassinations of the 60's
Pat draws an interesting coincidence: JFK, MLK, RFK: All were killed after opposing Vietnam
OJ in Las Vegas and was after his own personal belongings
When OJ entered the room, everyone was taping everything... A setup from the start
No chain of evidence in the audio evidence
OJ's lawyer limited in an unprecedented way and there was an "all white" jury?
A couple of instances that warranted a mistrial... None was called
One juror had been fired from his job for making racial slurs
Simpson should never have gone to jail over this case
Simpson and friend convicted of kidnapping and armed robbery
It is highly questionable whether there was an intention to kidnap
...The guys that carried the weapons walked, while unarmed OJ is convicted
Pat has a complete video archive, unedited, of the Vegas OJ trial

Show #420 Part 2 - Jim DiEugenio

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:00:01 -0700

Jim's website is Probe Magazine
McGeorge Bundy, Bob McNamara and Max Taylor all stated JFK was going to pull out of Vietnam
Jim's next reviews: Virtual JFK, Ten points and The Mysterious death of number 35
Jim will also review the Discovery Channel JFK documentary
He's also going to dispel the misinformation surrounding Stone's JFK
DiEugenio believes the Clay Shaw appearance at 544 Camp St should not have been in the film
Jim explains how the movie should have been made in his opinion
Fletcher Prouty was a consultant... his opinion of the film
Jim talks about Lamar Waldron's awful books, "Ultimate Sacrifice" and "Legacy Of Secrecy"
Harry Williams... The story grows every time it's told
Ultimately this book is just a new spin on a "mafia-did-it" scenario
Kennedy vetoed several contingency plans
Jim details many points that make the book's premise ridiculous
Jim shows that "C Day" is a complete fabrication
Many footnotes are non existent or anonymous
A back check of the research shows in many cases the research is faulty
Bernardo De Torres, Mitch Werbell and Eladio del Valle
The back-story on De Torres shows just how close Jim Garrison was to the truth
"Waldron conceals DeTorres' name to hide the fact that he is CIA"

Show #420 Part 3 - Jim DiEugenio

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:00:00 -0700

The idea that they might have wanted to keep Oswald alive just doesn't wash
Waldron's and Hartman's dealing with a Dick Helms scenario
It was yet another unsubstantiated and ridiculous story
Statements of bravado taken as a confession
Jim deems worthless the testimony of Carlos Marcello... He had Alzheimer's disease
A school teacher gives a lesson on finding disinformation using Jim's reviews
Jim will deal with Waldron and Hartman's sections on MLK, RFK and Watergate, next time
The second Playboy article ("The Puppet and the Puppet masters") ...
...Somebody got to Playboy. The story wasn't what was promised
Howard Hughes Playboy article April 1977 - part 1
Howard Hughes Playboy article Sept1977 - part 2

Show #419 Part 1 - April Oliver & Jack Smith

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:00:03 -0700

Operation Tailwind - April Oliver and Jack Smith detail their well researched report on US. Military gassing deserters in Vietnam with Sarin gas. Then CNN caved in to pressure, called the story false, put a gag on them both, and fired the reporters.

A replay of show #005
The story was nerve gas use in Laos during the Vietnam conflict
April was fired from CNN for reporting on it
CNN worried that their news sources would dry up at the Pentagon if the story ran
Her sources for the story were beyond question
She worked with Jack Smith, a very respected reporter
She exceeded all journalistic expectations on the credibility of the story
CNN did not know how to handle this kind of a story
There were at least 44 drafts of the story
CNN pretended they were blindsided by the article
Really, they didn't have experience fighting to keep the story alive
As a result, the military knows they can manipulate the media
April continued to receive reports of other operations in Southeast Asia
Deep racial divisions permeated the ranks of US military in Vietnam
US defectors were targeted by the American military
Tailwind was an operation to wipe out a defector's base inside Laos
Things went wrong and nerve gas was called in to help wipe out the enemy
Nerve gas s a last resort weapon but the military doesn't want to admit it's use
April explains the use and advantages of nerve gas
Not only a betrayal of April, it was a betrayal of the reporting profession
She explains what happened to Gary Webb (this was before his death, of course)
Poison gas used elsewhere, not just in Southeast Asia?....

Show #419 Part 2 - April Oliver & Jack Smith

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:00:02 -0700

The military doesn't want Special Ops being reported on
Psyops warriors working in newsrooms?
Military in a CNN newsroom could put reporters at risk in a war zone
Are they still working in newsrooms?
April talks about a website created to show April with a dagger through her head
This is the kind of intimidation she faced - How many reporters face the same thing?
A sworn deposition by an admiral showing requests for poison gas use
Kissinger tried to kill the story giving a ludicrous cover story
She won't ever agree to a gag order again
Washington Special Action Group (WSAG)
How April originally got the story
April is getting a law degree and getting out of journalism
Seymour Hersh's story on US forces firing on Iraqi troops during a ceasefire
The attack was similar to April Oliver's
Seymour Hersh wouldn't take this story on either

Show #419 Part 3 - April Oliver & Jack Smith

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:00:01 -0700

April Oliver & Jack Smith interviewed by Alex S. Jones
Jones haggles over whether there was enough "naysayer" information in the story
April gives several points by witnesses both during and after her interviews
Jack talks abut the backlash not only to them but the soldiers who talked
Jones asks "Did you ask your confidential sources to come forward?"
April talks about another operation report on camera about nerve gas use in Cambodia
The gasses used and how they are used
Both reporters talk about journalistic integrity
**Audience questions**
Asking the same question different ways at different times
The question asked of Admiral Moorer: "Was CS Gas used?" The answer was always "YES"
Peter Arnett's role in this story
Why assassinating defectors was chosen over capturing them in this case

Show #419 Part 4 - April Oliver & Jack Smith

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:00:00 -0700

Arnett's support was lost as he retracted to save his job
Floyd Abrams, Hired by CNN to bury the story, questioned the validity of the information
He stated they were too zealous and believed the story was valid when it wasn't
Of course Oliver and Smith corroborated their sources and validated their story
The story is true! It was confirmed that nerve gas WAS used
CNN originally signed off on the story then back peddled when military resistance was felt
Abrams took only 8 or 9 days to review a story that took 8 months to accumulate
April explains the use and handling of Sarin nerve gas and the minimal protection needed

Interview with Major General John Singlaub
APRIL OLIVER: We have a letter on Air Force stationary that says Operation
Tailwind's men on the ground attest to CBU-15 [sarin nerve gas] being
accurate and effective every time it was brought in... It is a letter
signed by General Clay and sent to Air Force General Killpack...
Read Interview Transcript

Show #418 Part 1 - Jim DiEugenio

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:00:02 -0700

DiEugenio's website is CTKA.net
Jim talks about the clash between the researchers
DailyKos and Firedoglake
Comparing modern events with RFK OK-ing the bugging Martin Luther King
It was the only way RFK "RFK could get Hoover off his back"
Wall Street and the sub-prime problems
The Democrats lost their way in 1968
Judge Joe Brown and the King case
Brown wanted to clean the rifle properly before doing conclusive tests
When Brown asked for this, he was barraged from all directions a la Jim Garrison
The truth was never allowed and Brown was removed from the case
The apparent James Earl Ray bullets did not match the King bullet
The gun was never properly sighted in... can you say Mannlicher Carcano?
Two white Mustangs
The ridiculousness of the sniper's nest
The witnesses did not see James Earl Ray
Merrell McCullough, CIA agent, points to the flophouse bathroom?...
McCullough later an 18 year veteran of the CIA on the balcony during the assassination?
J Edgar Hoover did his best to destroy the Black civil rights movement in America
Credibility and the clash between the researchers

Show #418 Part 2 - Jim DiEugenio

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:00:01 -0700

"The Man Who Knew Too Much" re-issue - 2003, a more important book
Jim has taken the important points and put them into an essay on CTKA.net
Nagell was the most important witness in the JFK case
Nagell was investigating many important people unknown until after the assassination
The I.D. cards prove Nagell was working with Oswald
Nagel's 5 conclusions with regard to Oswald
Nagell said his job was to kill Oswald and prevent the JFK assassination
An Orange Bowl assassination plot foiled?
Jim DiEugenio: "Nagell was one heck of an investigator"
David Ferrie, Leon Oswald, Sergio Arcacha-Smith; Nagell investigated them all before the assassination
Fearing his own assassination, Nagell tries various things to keep himself alive
Jim Garrison thought Nagell was the most important witness too
Did the CIA hold Nagell's children hostage to keep his silence?
Shenannigans surrounding the missing footlocker after Nagell's death
The 112th file on Oswald
The bottom line on Nagell: He's telling the truth
About the film "Vietnam If Kennedy Had Lived"
The author takes the position that Kennedy would have pulled out of Vietnam
Several items brought up that will be in the next interview with Jim

Show #418 Part 3 - Jim Lesar

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:00:00 -0700

Lesar represented James Earl Ray from 1970 to 1975
He also represented Harold Weisberg in the FOIA litigation
The FBI declared immunity from FOIA and lied about the records they had
Lesar wasn't concerned with James Earl Ray's guilt or innocence
He was only concerned with overturning Ray's guilty plea
Ray had been misrepresented at every turn until Lesar took over
How Ray came to plead guilty
Ray was afraid his lawyer would throw the case if he didn't plead guilty
Ray appeared very coherent and capable of working up a defense for himself
The legal forces of the time were bent on finding Ray guilty at any cost
It is extremely difficult to overturn a guilty plea
Jim is optimistic there will be a fair trial in the Martin Luther King assassination
Jim's work can be seen at aarclibrary.org or maryferrell.org

Show #417 Part 1 - Jim Douglass

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:00:01 -0700

Jim is working on a book on Martin Luther King. It will be at least a year away
Jim was a professor of religion at the University of Hawaii at the time of MLK's death
Jim ended his academic career shortly afterward, focusing on activism
Judge Joe Brown was ejected from the case, then James Earle Ray died, ending that case
The Jowers trial was the only trial completed in the MLK case
Douglass and Wendel Stacey were the only people to stay for the entire trial
The conclusion, the jury found "King was assassinated by a conspiracy of government elements"
Maynard Stiles gave testimony regarding cleaning up the crime scene under the direction of the police
This "cleanup" destroyed the sniper's nest
The flophouse bathroom was the "official" assassins nest
It has been altered to support the official story
A 'falling down drunk' man was the primary witness to Ray being the assassin
This man's common law wife, Grace Waldron, had seen a man walking past the doorway
This man was not James Earl Ray... She was not intoxicated and she was not called for testimony
Grace Waldron was committed to a mental institution for 10 years to prevent her testimony
The phone call taken by 'Lorraine' of the Lorraine motel asking to move King's room
Lorraine had a heart attack and died shortly after hearing of King's death
Hoover had been the man responsible for moving King to the Lorraine Motel
The assassination is described as "highly orchestrated"
The 'moral bankruptcy' of governmental forces in these things
The Special Forces team ready to shoot King and Andrew Young, surprised by the shooting
They withdrew their hit team before firing a shot
Jowers admitted to his role in the assassination
Wendell Stacey here and here died under suspicious circumstances in August 2007
Judge Brown's removal from the case because his expertise on firearms went against the official story
The rifle package was dropped in the doorway 10 minutes before the assassination
This means the rifle could not have been used in the assassination... Ray did not do it
Just as in the JFK assassination, WHY is the question that needs to be asked
Jim's book on MLK will also include Malcom X in the material

Show #417 Part 2 - John Judge

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:00:00 -0700

A great selection of John Judge material on Raticle.Org
Harold Weisberg's investigation of James Earl Ray
Different aliases, Different James Earl Ray's...
King's views, particularly on militarism
The surveillance and disruption by COINTELPRO
Assassins from different directions... if they were needed
Connections between the assassins and the "Tramps" of JFK fame
How King was moved to the Lorraine Motel and then to a vulnerable room
Judge Joe Brown removed from the case because of his ballistics expertise
There was virtually no coverage of what should have been the trial of the century
The Martin Luther King center has the transcript of the trial
Browse The King Center starting at the home page
John Judge: "I don't think we can celebrate King's life without remembering his death"
80 witness deaths in this case... suspicious to say the least
The abject racism involved: The Memphis Police, The FBI and others
John talks about the struggle to re-open these cases
Although slim, there is now some hope of these cases seeing the light of day
Bush reversed the opening of files and reclassified many records
Division 5, The DIA, The ONI and the FBI and many others
DIA gets more than 85% of the black budget, not CIA
A bit of Jagger Chiles Stovall history
Domestic and foreign assassination squads
DIA working with organized crime
Able Danger "manipulating" Al-Qeda
Paul Wellstone bullied by the Bush Administration... conveniently killed in a plane crash
The crash was very suspicious much the same as Dorothy Hunt's plane
How do the FBI show up so immediately on these scenes when they are up to 5 hours away?
John's talks about what he did following the King assassination
The 9/11 investigation mirrors the Warren Commission investigation in tactics
Mae Brussell Pegs Fritz Kraemer as mentor to Alexander Haig and Henry Kissinger
CNN's 'Murder in Memphis': A horrible propaganda piece... the conclusions are very easy to dispel
John's websites are Judge for yourself.us, Political Assassinations.com and Grounds For Impeachment.com

Show #416 Part 1 - Dr. William Pepper

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:00:01 -0700

The popular media ignored the proceedings after the family of MLK gave testimony
The trial determined that James Earl Ray was an innocent patsy
A hit team did the murder of Dr. Martin Luther King
It was determined that MLK was killed to prevent a sit-in in Washington DC
Jim Douglass was the only reporter to attend the entire proceedings
Len has created Dr. William Pepper's new website
Dr Pepper has written an argument showing the erosion of the US constitution
He shows that this erosion has occurred over the last 11 presidencies
This paper will be available on Pepper's website
The argument calls for a constitutional convention to amend, protect and support the US Constitution
He's also framing legal indictments against several members of the Bush administration
The four counts on these indictments will include:
1. Torture
2. Waging of aggressive war
3. War crimes and crimes against humanity
4. Illegal detention and extraordinary rendition
Bill is doubtful the Obama administration will act on these indictments
Obama will be too busy trying to save the American economy
It looks like the bankrupting of America is a planned event
Bill talks about his "first love"...Poetry
Excerpts of Dr. Pepper's poetry available on his website
New album available Preview Here
Sirhan Sirhan's hypno-programming
About the funding of his pro bono work... Donations are much appreciated
Bill reflects on his friendship with and his admiration of the man
The Martin Luther King center has the transcript of the trial
Browse The King Center starting at the home page
Bill is working on his third book on the King case which, he states, will be his final printed word on the case
He's finishing up a book on Hugo Chavez and his Bolivarian revolution

Show #416 Part 2 - Mark Lane

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:00:00 -0700

Pauley Perrette is doing a documentary on Mark's life called "Citizen Lane"
Lane and Dick Gregory wrote Murder in Memphis", a revisionist view of the MLK murder
A J. Edgar Hoover dirty trick
Hoover wanted King dead
It was known to King's people of an FBI "Kill King" squad
King was originally to stay at the Holiday Inn Rivermont
Hoover started the racist campaign to get King out of the Holiday Inn where he was safe
The Lorraine Motel stay was arranged specifically by Hoover
The bizarre relationship between Hoover, Clive Tolson and the FBI
Hoover's secret files kept him in power
Mark's personal experience with Martin Luther King
A Black Op Listener came up with the working title of Mark's autobiography title "Dancing With Bullies"
It was a combination of statements made by Mark Lane and Jim Garrison
This will probably be the final title of Lane's Autobiography
The Martin Luther King Legacy: He led a quiet, peaceable life
King created the revolution among Black People for human rights
He spoke strongly against the Vietnam conflict
The march on Washington to create economic change in America is what got him killed
King was not only committed to change in America, but everywhere
If not for King's work, Obama would not be President today
Non violent revolution, a la Mahatma Gandhi, was the only avenue open to Black People
King was just a regular man and nobody before or since has changed America so profoundly
Lane calls Obama "The most eloquent speaker to ever hold the office of President of the United States"
As eloquent a speaker as JFK was, Lane says Barack Obama is more eloquent
The teetering economy
Comments on torture and the previous administration
Mahatma Gandhi's strange autobiography
The salt tax and cloth making in India and the Gandi revolution
MLK stood for much. He never let anyone down and everyone knew he never would
About at Spartacus - Joachim Joesten author of "Oswald: Assassin or Fall Guy?", Sept, 1964
Congressional testimony about a disgraced former English policeman at the HSCA during the James Earl Ray segment
Dick Gregory ... trying to get the truth out of a fearful Walter Fauntroy
Mark Lane features much of his work at his website marklane.com

Show #415 Part 1 - Charles R. Drago

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:00:01 -0700

Charles gives a brief background of his involvement in assassination research
Drago: "Every day the researchers don't work together we work for the enemy"
The late George Michael Evica and the Mary Ferrell Foundation, An inside look at the beginning
Are Mary Ferrell's or Jay Harrison's archives safe?
These are the people's archives. They need to be properly cared for!
A list of items in the Harold Weisberg archives as an example of how archives should be administered
Charles wants to give the archivists the benefit of the doubt but...
Nobody is sure how the archive items are cared for
Deep Politics Forum and CTKA (Probe Magazine)
Charles talks about infighting and competition between research groups that hurts the cause
Drago delivers a poignant essay on control of The People's National Archives
The conspiracy issue is no longer a debate.
"Anyone with reasonable access to the evidence who concludes it was not a conspiracy is cognitively impaired and or complicit in the crime." -- Charles Drago
A literary comparison to the major government players in the JFK case

Show #415 Part 2 - Jim Fetzer

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:00:00 -0700

Jim talks about his research into Mary Moorman in the street in Dealey Plaza
Dick Cheney's assassination team (originally reported by Seymour Hersh)
Several former political executives from the last U.S. regime try to revise history
Beginning with the AIG bonus story
Suggestions on what the $165 million could buy
The new tax laws to reign in the bonuses paid to bailed out corporations
Jim lists of several examples of funds misappropriation leading up to the collapse
Seemingly genuine examples of concern by right leaning people
Jim is concerned over the way the Obama administration is managing the economic crisis
Concern that the crisis will result in the implementation of the Amero (NAU)
U.N. panel says world should ditch dollar

Show #414 Part 1 - Mark Dawidziak

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:00:02 -0700

Mark starts by giving a history of how he became involved in conspiracy research
He has been a critic of the official story
Mark draws several comparisons between the JFK and Lincoln assassinations
He describes the "toothless" media in the assassinations
The real stories are ignored as they "trivialize us to death"
It was either a conspiracy or a bungled investigation - There is no middle ground
The government has let us down and nobody seems outraged at this
The essence of freedom is the ability to criticize freely
Three media "tricks of the trade"
1. Accept all official news as truth
2. Demonize as lunatics anyone questioning the official theory
3. Dismiss any investigative reporting that goes against official theory
Mark feels Stone's JFK had more of a casting problem than a historical one
How the major media espouses the official story
They investigate by omission. They never answer the real questions
The investigation of the assassination was held to the lowest standards

Show #414 Part 2 - Jim DiEugenio

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:00:01 -0700

Jim comments on Lamar Waldron's work
Waldron ignores many facts and goes with the official story "goes with Ray as the killer of KIng"
The missing pieces of CE399
Talk about Jesse Curry's book and interviews
Dallas Police gave up all the JFK evidence to the FBI
The did not get back everything that they sent
Exhibit 3 from Connally obviously weighed much more than 3 grains
It therefore could not have come from CE399
Various images of bullet fragments prove CE399 was not the only missile
The Dolce bullet tests on YouTube
The Rydberg drawing conflicts with evidentiary pictures
Ruth Paine as a credible witness... NOT!
Allen Dulles >>> Mary Bancroft >>> Michael Paine's mother
Witholding the Imperial Reflex camera from the police and FBI
Ruth gave it to Robert Oswald instead?... Why?

Show #414 Part 3 - Jim DiEugenio

osanic@prouty.org (Len Osanic) — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:00:00 -0700

Dick Russell's "On The Trail Of The JFK Assassins"
Dick Russell has been reporting on the JFK case for more than 20 years
Doug Horne: Re-investigated a great deal of the JFK case
Horne's essays concern the brain weight and other key things
The brain weight is significantly higher than what should be obvious in the photos
Senator Richard Russell discovered the farce of the Warren Commission
He set up his own investigation in light of this
Russell's three major conclusions:
1. Marina Oswald lied
2. The Mannlicher Carcano was incapable of doing what it was said to have done
3. There really was a second Oswald
The same conclusions researchers were coming to
It was Boggs and not Long that got Jim Garrison to investigate the JFK assassination
Garrison had been working on the investigation much earlier than previously known
Three Warren Commissioners dissented by the end of the sixties
Luis Castillo - A probable programmed assassin, a la Sirhan Sirhan
The Church Committee Report: Not all evidence given over to the Warren Commission
The sacrificing of the 'dedicated' Spague (HSCA) and the JFK investigation afterward
Stansfield Turner wouldn't co-operate with the HSCA
Jim Garrison, Joe Brown, Richard Sprague... impeccable careers
All three drummed out when they investigated their respective cases
A meeting in the Bahamas names Maurice Bishop as David Atlee Phillips
Eladio del Valle, Escalante, The Soviets, and Richard Case Nagell
Ties between Nagell, American Express and Oswald in Russia
The Paines are still both alive as far as Jim knows
The Paines are related to families with great power (Cabot & Kerry)