Comments for Black Horse Tai Chi http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org Discussion of Tai Chi, Push Hands, Daoism and other Martial Arts Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:56:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on My Tai Chi Dream, MMA Respecting Tai Chi by Casey http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blackhorsetaichicomments/~3/T6PmItlG6Sg/ Casey Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:56:52 +0000 http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/?p=430#comment-2231 I agree. You can't PRACTICE hard and soft at the same time, but you can alternate between using hard and soft in a competitive manner. I agree. You can’t PRACTICE hard and soft at the same time, but you can alternate between using hard and soft in a competitive manner.

]]> http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/2012/02/12/my-tai-chi-dream-mma-respecting-tai-chi/#comment-2231 Comment on My Tai Chi Dream, MMA Respecting Tai Chi by Greg Harley http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blackhorsetaichicomments/~3/4dvEfi9HPmc/ Greg Harley Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:05:53 +0000 http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/?p=430#comment-2229 I agree that more testing would be good. I also believe that you cannot practice hard and soft (external and internal) at the same time. If you want to have soft power you must practice only softness. I agree that more testing would be good. I also believe that you cannot practice hard and soft (external and internal) at the same time. If you want to have soft power you must practice only softness.

]]> http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/2012/02/12/my-tai-chi-dream-mma-respecting-tai-chi/#comment-2229 Comment on Chinese Wrestling (Shuaijiao) Competition Videos by Matt Jackson http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blackhorsetaichicomments/~3/frZrkHJZP3U/ Matt Jackson Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:49:15 +0000 http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/?p=297#comment-2139 I admire what you have said here. I think finding the roots of martial arts wrestling is a major step in straightening out the myths. For example many people belive Chinese and Japanese fighters don't know ground work. This is silly considering BJJ came from a Jujitsu root. The same goes for Brazil, if someone says they can't kick I would say " go tell that to a Capoeria Master" Good luck in your endevor not to cross styles, but find the truth in them is often an up hill battle. I admire what you have said here. I think finding the roots of martial arts wrestling is a major step in straightening out the myths. For example many people belive Chinese and Japanese fighters don’t know ground work. This is silly considering BJJ came from a Jujitsu root. The same goes for Brazil, if someone says they can’t kick I would say ” go tell that to a Capoeria Master” Good luck in your endevor not to cross styles, but find the truth in them is often an up hill battle.

]]> http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/2011/03/03/chinese-wrestling-shuaijiao-competition-videos/#comment-2139 Comment on What Is Push Hands? by Steven J http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blackhorsetaichicomments/~3/EbTrPXNyOj4/ Steven J Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:52:19 +0000 http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/#comment-2136 Having practiced MMA (though mostly focused on BJJ) and studied Tai Chi I think what truly sums up the difference in philosophy is not "preparation for killing/ nurturing mysterious forces" versus "experience hitting people who are really trying to hurt them". The biggest difference is TMA has a moral/ethical component to it, they are paths to self-cultivation less than ways to beat people up. I think it has already been concisely said thousands of years ago -- "Winning 100 of 100 battles is not the sign of the true master. The sign of the true master is never having to fight a battle." - Sun Tzu Having practiced MMA (though mostly focused on BJJ) and studied Tai Chi I think what truly sums up the difference in philosophy is not “preparation for killing/ nurturing mysterious forces” versus “experience hitting people who are really trying to hurt them”. The biggest difference is TMA has a moral/ethical component to it, they are paths to self-cultivation less than ways to beat people up. I think it has already been concisely said thousands of years ago — “Winning 100 of 100 battles is not the sign of the true master. The sign of the true master is never having to fight a battle.” – Sun Tzu

]]> http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/what-is-push-hands/#comment-2136 Comment on L3: Protect Your Center Like A Most Precious Jewel by Johnny Marsz http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blackhorsetaichicomments/~3/yYI9Oogl1ks/ Johnny Marsz Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:13:07 +0000 http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/?p=415#comment-2064 http://youtu.be/OFDfgfJeGn8 http://youtu.be/OFDfgfJeGn8

]]> http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/2011/10/25/l3-protect-your-center-like-a-most-precious-jewel/#comment-2064 Comment on L3: Protect Your Center Like A Most Precious Jewel by Johnny Marsz http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blackhorsetaichicomments/~3/ngXKuMflTe4/ Johnny Marsz Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:38:11 +0000 http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/?p=415#comment-2043 BOOM! BOOM!

]]> http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/2011/10/25/l3-protect-your-center-like-a-most-precious-jewel/#comment-2043 Comment on L3: Protect Your Center Like A Most Precious Jewel by Oleg http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blackhorsetaichicomments/~3/MiplszDSfhw/ Oleg Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:36:10 +0000 http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/?p=415#comment-2005 Shane, You are not leetle, but you do weigh less than 3/4 of Casey's weight. Maybe you guys should ask Dez to show how it is really done... Oleg Shane,

You are not leetle, but you do weigh less than 3/4 of Casey’s weight. Maybe you guys should ask Dez to show how it is really done…

Oleg

]]> http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/2011/10/25/l3-protect-your-center-like-a-most-precious-jewel/#comment-2005 Comment on L2: Practical Use Of Potato Sack Technique by Oleg http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blackhorsetaichicomments/~3/SDf7Oh_4-T0/ Oleg Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:29:08 +0000 http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/?p=406#comment-2004 Thank you. I am glad I finally watched your answer. Thank you. I am glad I finally watched your answer.

]]> http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/2011/10/19/l2-practical-use-of-potato-sack-technique/#comment-2004 Comment on New Dates, Times And Material from Patrick Kelly by George Roberts http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blackhorsetaichicomments/~3/AXIL3kfdf_g/ George Roberts Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:15:19 +0000 http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/?p=321#comment-2001 I was one of Patrick Kelly's first students (1980), but I have move on from him long ago. I take issue with this modern tai chi chuan as it has become too spiritual and has lost it's roots. The old masters were phenomenal fighters and from my experience 90% of all tai chi schools have no basic fighting abilities and any karate or kung fu student who has had 6 months of hard training could defeat most tai chi exponents. I was one of Patrick Kelly’s first students (1980), but I have move on from him long ago. I take issue with this modern tai chi chuan as it has become too spiritual and has lost it’s roots. The old masters were phenomenal fighters and from my experience 90% of all tai chi schools have no basic fighting abilities and any karate or kung fu student who has had 6 months of hard training could defeat most tai chi exponents.

]]> http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/2011/06/14/new-dates-times-and-material-from-patrick-kelly/#comment-2001 Comment on What Is Push Hands? by Scott Sommers http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blackhorsetaichicomments/~3/bLKz3WuNq4Q/ Scott Sommers Thu, 08 Dec 2011 05:54:46 +0000 http://www.blackhorsetaichi.org/#comment-1992 This looks OK. I think I could get interested in it. There are still people who do traditional martial arts who can't see how mixed martial arts has anything to do with it. When you try and talk with these guys, their positions starts out as if it's got something to do with a thing they call a 'real fight'. But if you talk for a long time, it starts becoming clear the problem is that MMA doesn't involve qi or some other mysterious secret force that these traditional styles believe they can nurture. Traditional martial arts is a very strange thing. It's this thing that claims to be preparation for killing but where actual fight experience labels you as a thug. I don't know more than a handful of TMA practitioners who have any experience hitting people who are really trying to hurt them. I wouldn't worry too much about what gets said in this context. Thanks Casey. This looks OK. I think I could get interested in it.

There are still people who do traditional martial arts who can’t see how mixed martial arts has anything to do with it. When you try and talk with these guys, their positions starts out as if it’s got something to do with a thing they call a ‘real fight’. But if you talk for a long time, it starts becoming clear the problem is that MMA doesn’t involve qi or some other mysterious secret force that these traditional styles believe they can nurture.

Traditional martial arts is a very strange thing. It’s this thing that claims to be preparation for killing but where actual fight experience labels you as a thug. I don’t know more than a handful of TMA practitioners who have any experience hitting people who are really trying to hurt them. I wouldn’t worry too much about what gets said in this context.

Thanks Casey.

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