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Ways to Increase Adsense Earning

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:09:00 +0800

Blogging is interesting as it can share with others and earning money without going out home. However getting success in online making money though blogging is not such easy way. There are a lot of tricks spreading over the Internet but there huge numbers of publishers fail to get success. I like adsense because it is the stable way in earning money online, of course the are many more.
If you are adsense publishers, the following tips are very good to increase the income from adsense jobs. Here are the top 10 tricks that I found from the different Adsense experts who are sharing their knowledge on how they earn cash through adsense :
1. The color of your ads is one of the trick that you should learn. Make sure that your ads color is the same as your web site palette. Instead of using frames choose the same color as your page background for the ad frame and for the ad background.
2. Avoid using those horizontal banner or leaderboard ads. Because Adsense experts said that people are blind to those kinds of ads.
3. You can use the Google Heat map for you to know where is the best place to put the adsense on a site. Google has its own Adsense optimization tips for that.
4. Competitive keywords can trigger Adsense ads on a page. You can use a keyword research tool for you to be able to grab the most popular keywords. The more popular your keyword is the higher the adwords advertisers are willing to pay per click for it.
5. Create an ads that looks like your page.
6. Google’s link ad unit seem to have a much higher CTR or Click-Through Rate. There are different ad formats that you can use.
7. You can add some images next to your ads. Those images can draw images to your ads.
8. You can add 3 Adsense ads and 1 link unit on your page at 1 adsense referral button plus 3 other unit. Make sure that you place those ads to the right place that for your ads not to distract the readers.
9. Focus on a particular niche. Your content that focuses on a particular niche can trigger Adwords ads that closely match the content. This will make your visitor be more interested to click on your ads.
10. Use custom Ad Channels for each of your ad placements, for example, “Top 5 Link Unit Blue Palette” or “Left Side Navigation Image Skyscraper” etc. Tweak, track and measure the success of each of these custom channels so you know what gives you the highest CTR. Some ad formats and colors will work better than others, but you won’t know which until you test, test and test some more!
This blogging way to increase adsense earning is taken from:http://earns-adsense.blogspot.com/2009/06/top-10-tricks-to-earn-more-from-adsense.html

Adsense for Mobile Available in Indonesia

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:21:00 +0800

It's sound good for Indonesian publishers as Adsense for Mobile version now comes and available in Indonesia. it is said in adsense blog that Google excited to announce the launch of AdSense for mobile content in 15 new countries: Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Czech Republic, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Nigeria, Philippines, Slovenia, Thailand, and Turkey.

AdSense for mobile content allows publishers to generate earnings from their mobile webpages using targeted Google ads. Just like AdSense for content, Google matches ads to the content of your site -- in this case, your mobile site. You'll earn money whenever visitors to your mobile site click on the ads they see.

For mobile websites, AdSense will automatically detect the type of phone viewing your site and deliver ads to match. For example, if someone views your site through an iPhone, we'll deliver ads specifically designed for high-end phones.

Please note that AdSense for mobile content ad units may be used in mobile websites only, not in mobile applications -- our policies don't permit placement of AdSense for mobile content ads in a mobile application. If you’re looking for an advertising solution for your mobile application, sign up for AdMob, Google’s leading mobile advertising display product.

How to Apply Adword Voucher without Credit Card

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 11:15:00 +0800

Is it possible to use the voucher to advertise in google adwords without credit card? I have got the voucher for advertisement in google adwords for two times but both the voucher requires the detail of credit card, unfortunately I don't have the credit card. Is that possible to use it with debit card?
The first adwords voucher is emailed but this second voucher is manually send by post. It is strange that google uses offline media to contact the adsense publisher. The voucher is worthy of Rp400.000. I think if I can use it, the voucher from adwords will drive a lot traffics to my blogs. But It needs credit card, it seems the voucher will not be executed.

My Adsense Earns $16 Today

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:05:00 +0800

If Adsense kept on earning over $16 a day, it would be very good earning from online activity. This month I have been trying hard to increase earning from adsense. Last month my earning stayed average $5 a day. This month it increases up to average $10 a day.
I had not displayed adsense for link for along time. I thought that it had very low earning. The I noticed in my earning report that the adsense for link channel often appeared though I was not displaying it all. After that I just want to placed it again and surprisingly, though I am not so sure because of that, my earning increase significantly due to adsense ecpm and ctr increase.
Keeping on resulting $10 a day is satisfactory enough for me, since I am is not so good in online business. However today Adsense makes me very happy, it earns $16.23. I wish it earned over 16 daily he.. he..

Running Home Business in Food and Snack

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Sat, 2 Oct 2010 16:41:00 +0800

Home business is a popular commercial activity which is conducted in home. This kind of business is usually a small scale which is usually run by an individual or family member. Small home business may be the right solution for some people to star running immediately.

There are wide opportunities in this business scale and the most easily done is opening the home-based business in snack and food. Think about selling popcorn. It is one of the snack food businesses that is easy to run. Just choose a suitable location in crowd place, finding the material in supermarket, and buying cheap popcorn machines. Those are ready potentials to run an own business.

If the time leads to improvement, make extensive the business field. Think about buying the appropriate hot dog machines. Hot dog is potentially peak business as it directly relates to human basic need, food. Further, don’t forget to buy sno cone machines to enlarge the possible business opportunity. If those are thought carefully and run effectively, the small scale business is surely established.

Some people sometime think that starting to run own business is very difficult. Yes it is. However if a small thing is seen in more detail way, the difficulty seems to show the opportunity. That might be a way of successful businessman.

Expo for Operational Equipments

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:03:00 +0800

Operational equipments certainly lead to success of any defending and attacking operation. Many operational missions fail due to the absence of good and effective equipments. Tactical mission is sometimes needed for stability. In return the failure of mission will lead to instability. That is the importance of appropriate equipments.
The warrior expo is showing the essential equipments to support the success of operational mission. The equipments are in wide range from operational products, tactical Gear, even logistic services which are provided by more than 180 industries from the most leading equipment manufactures. These tactical equipments are very useful especially for department of defense, military, and federal agencies. These equipments are also good for those who work in law enforcement and fire and emergency services.
There will be two events to show the most current product in operational equipment. The first event is warrior expo west. It will be present for two days on Wednesday, May 4 and Thursday, May 5, 2011. This west equipment expo will be set in San Diego, CA. and completely with equipment demonstration and seminar. The second event is warrior expo east which will be held on Thursday, July 14 and Friday, July 15, 2011. It will take place in Virginia Beach. This expo will lead the view of the latest equipment for operational mission.

Plan and Budget in Cars Modification

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 23:02:00 +0800

In order not to get the wrong step, it's good for us to follow several tips in modifying car. The tips below lead us to make modifications which result satisfying cars.
The easy step to the modify car is using a proven modification service. With the experienced technician, we can devote our self in designing of the car which we want. What we do want the cars like. In any way, the car owner is who has the rights to his car. So tell the plan we want. The modification services will provide valuable suggestion about the color, type of tire, interior, and the other matters relating to the cars.
Once the plan of car modification is fixed. After deciding of what car will look like that we want, it's time to see how much is in our wallet. Ask to the technician how much should be allocated for such modification. Plan and budget should be balance. After that research what the price of spare parts and how long time required to find them. If we choose to use professional services, then make sure we ourselves have included an additional budget for the service fee.
There are many ways in car modification which can be done to increase the great image and machine power. But for those who do not want to modify the car all-out, an option rise the real power strength is replacing the car exhaust system which starts from the header, pipes, and tubes. It aims to make smooth the flow of exhausting gas. This is the cheapest way but with the greatest result.

Skycpm Scam or Bankrupt

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:30:00 +0800

I have tried to attend the cpm business like skycpm. It was so famous around blog sphere. I have displayed the advertisements and get some dollars. Then time to ask the payment. I processed the cash out but it never end. Is Skycpm scamming or bankruptcy case?

Tips to Increase Earning from Adsense

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:48:00 +0800

This tips, actually is a tip which is usual thing to be optimized by blogger, are I have received from Google Team through email. The tips is sent to bloggers to make more money in easier way. The tips in making adsense earning increasing are:
Switching text and image advertising option. The images which are rich media ads generally result in higher eCPMs than text ads. AdSense will automatically display the ads that will yield the highest earnings for us
Implementing wide ads format. Wider is better. Wider ad units allow for more horizontal text than their narrower counterparts, and as a result, are easier for users to read and interact with. The size which are commonly considered as the best formats are medium rectangle which is 300x250, wide skycraper which is 160x600, and learderboard which is 728x90 .
Considering the best place to take the advertisement. Certain locations deliver higher earnings. Take a look at the heatmap of our blogs to see which areas of the page are likely to perform the best for delivering advertisements
Adding the link unit. link units provide complimentary, space-efficient advertisements for monetizing smaller areas on your site. Link units are just as simple to configure and insert into your site as regular ad units and take up very little real estate as well. Each link unit displays a list of topics related to your site’s content, similar to a regular ad unit. When a user clicks on one of these topics, they’re brought to a page of contextually relevant AdSense ads. As a publisher, we’re paid for any clicks on this resulting page

Over $22 for Single Click is Possible in Adsense

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Mon, 9 Aug 2010 13:17:00 +0800

High payment for click in Adsense is a dream for any publisher. Now I am very interested at reading some amazing achievement in Adsense program. High paying keyword versus low paying key word is discussable. Though I almost got payment from Google Adsense monthly, My Adsense earning seems in very low pay key word.
When I see a forum, there makes me surprised. It is stated that some publisher receive a very high payment for only single click. One click deserved $22.93. One click, again just one click, that is very surprising. Meanwhile my average payment in click adsense advertisement is bellow 0.2. Further it is stated that the Niche for such very high payment is about loan mortgage. Ehm... Loan and finance are always in top keyword. Further, according to that discussion, online degree niche is possible to give $11 for each click. I can't imagine how much is it if we get hundreds click?
It seem that success in Adsense is affordable but it surely will be very hard. Both the niche; loan and online degree is very competitive niche. Just typing the keyword in Google search and we will be given hundred millions document related to them. How can be in the top one page of that Google search result??? That is the question which needs to answer if w want to receive very high payment in adsense advertisement click.

How Blogspot Earns Over $20 Daily

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Sat, 7 Aug 2010 22:50:00 +0800

How does a blog in blogspot sub domain earn great amount of money? I always feel excited while reading such success story in adsense. I have a such goal to succeed in adsense program but unfortunately succeeding in google adsense really needs hard work
My earning is only having paying out monthly. Though that is really small for some blogging master, it is really make me happy. However I want to make more. That make me interested to read the story of other blogger who has reached high level in adsense earning especially those who just free blogging service like blogspot.
When I browsed, I found the forum which stated that a blogger with blogspot platform can reach earning over $20 daily. Than I see the blog. Wonderfully the blog has very good performance. I has google pagerank 4 and alexa rank in around 400 thousand. The niche is very hot and lucrative as it focuses on the way of making many over the Internet for youth. That is really a good smart job

Renewing Free Domain in Co.CC

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Tue, 3 Aug 2010 22:37:00 +0800

How to renew domain freely is my intention since I have been used a free co.cc domain for my blog. Even this blog used to apply this free co.cc domain but not long after setting up the free co.cc domain, I converted to .info extension due to never lasting under examination note from co.cc administrator.
However I did not give up to use co.cc. When I wanted to set up another blog with wordpress platform and free hosting space, it was the time to apply the free co.cc domain again. Applying co.cc combined with wordpress engine and free byethost hosting space is a perfect material when we want to learn much the configuration how a blog works.
Though I often feel worried of using the free co.cc domain since it ever gave me "under examination" note for my previous blog, but for the free learning medium, it was the risk. After one year using that co.cc, today I have a note that the domain has lasted for one year and it is time to renew.
I wonder whether renewing the domain is still free or not. I just follow the step and finally found the form of personal usage choice. If we used for personal blog then it will keep free. In contrary, if we want to use commercial site, then we need to pay $3 a year. Of course I choose that for personal blog for the renewing domain free of charge. Renewing domain of co.cc is really free.

Making Money from Real Estate Business

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:06:00 +0800

Getting benefit from the real estate business for some people is considered difficult. Why it is difficult to run a real estate business and have benefit? This is because the amount of money which should be invested is big. However, to get profits from real estate business do not have to be an investor. What is needed to know is how to find best one like Naples real estate and which one can accept the price.

The profit derived from real estate can be used to make an investment. Investment can be done at many things. We can buy more houses in Naples Florida real estate for example, and sell them at higher prices when the market conditions is better. We need to consider this market conditions when deciding to buy and sell real estate. If we do that, we will get the big profit.

In the world of real estate business, the most important thing is finding the right place and deciding to use it for any profit. We can make a profit from it by renting, buying an other property or reselling to others. So there are many ways to make money from real estate

Pagerank Google Update June 2010

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Tue, 6 Jul 2010 22:27:00 +0800

Lama tidak memperhatikan pagerank dari google, kali ini tergoda juga. Hingar bingarnya pembicaraan tentang update pagerank dari google tetap menjadi topik yang banyak diperbincankan.
Seperti yang banyak dibicarakan, sejak April kemarin Google memperbaharui pagerank secara mayor. Akhir Juni ini update minor telah muncul, kemungkinana Agustus nanti akan ada update mayor lagi.
Meski begitu, blog ini tetepa tidak beranjak. Tetap setia di kelas 1. Ya untunglah gak diturunkan ke kelas 0 hehheheh. Tapi Juni ini salah satu blog saya mendapat apresiasi yang lumayan dari pagerank 0 langsung menuju pagerank 3. Hemmmmm lumayan...mudah-mudahan tidak melorot lagi hehhehe

Building Personal Website

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:09:00 +0800

It seems that everybody can not deny that socialization is a necessity. The main point of socialization is interacting, sharing and getting feedback. How can we socialize to all people in all regions over the world? Formerly, if we can talk to our neighbor, that will be enough. However, today, we need larger and wider listener. To reach that huge scope of listener, a personal website can help.
How to make a personal website? A website which we often see and read in our browser engine is actually a result of combination of three main things. They are domain name, hosting space, and site script. Those will determine whether the website is paid or free website. A domain is an address of our website. it should be unique and easy to remember.
A domain can be paid for periodical usage such as extension info, com, net, org etc. or it can be used freely like some of co.cc extensions. In the same term, a hosting space can be paid or free of charge. After having a domain and hosting space then what we should be in hand to make a website is a script. It is a programing language. For those with high technical knowledge, making a script for a website is not big deal but for a newbie it is really complicated. Fortunately there is a website builder which helps to make any customized website easily.
After making a personal website, then it depends to us. How good we maintain the site and what it is for are closely related to our own necessity in the virtual socialization.

Making Website Easily

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Thu, 27 May 2010 14:11:00 +0800

Internet has been a powerful medium for worldwide intersection. Due to the wide audience target, Internet can be very useful for business and make money from it. To become a successful online businessman, we have to make and maintain at least a website. It can be a free website or paid one.
What is a website? Website is a page of information provided via the Internet so it can be accessed from around the world. The main elements of a website is a domain, space of hosting and the script.
After those elements of website in hand, how to make a website? There are basically two options to create a website. First, we can create the script by ourselves then upload it to the hosting space. Of course making website script is not easy, especially for a newbie. For this way, we have to know programing languages well. Second, we can make a powerful website by using website builder. The second option is the most appropriate way especially for who has not mastered programing languages. It is a solutions for who wishes to create a website quickly and easily without having to learn HTML or other web scripts.

Making Car Beautiful

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Wed, 12 May 2010 10:30:00 +0800

Most of people have cars but not all of them beautiful. Having customizing car as we like is interesting. Making our car beautiful is modifying.
When we have ordinary car, we can make it amazing. We can modify it by by changing and adding accessories. We can find and buy those accessories at dodge magnum accessories. The good customized car is surely increasing the sight in the street.
The dodge magnum accessories provides car accessories such as grilles, spoilers, chrome, lighting, and interior accessories. Those car stuffs are really amazing and will make our ordinary car amazing. What more interesting is the cheap price. Making our car beautiful is extremely expensive but we have to be wise. We have to find the store with reasonable price and that can be found at dodge magnum accessories.

How Fast Your Blog Load

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:35:00 +0800

Fast loading blog is one of the important factor to lead the popularity. This fast loading time of blog is commonly determine by the good construction of the template used. When I changed template for this blog. My first consideration whether the template I use load fast or not.
How to measure the loading time of your blog? There several way but the simple one is using the third blog who gives the free service of measuring the loading time for your blog. When I browsed over the Internet, I find this good tool to measure the loading time of my blog instantly. Searchmetrics is one of the site with give free service in counting and measuring how fast our blog load. It give the information on the loading time in second measure, data volume and blog size in html or without it.
However I realize that there will be a lot of ways on how to know the loading time of blog. I you have, please let me know. This way is just one example way to measure how fast our blog load.

How Can Be Success with SKYCPM

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:30:00 +0800

For this week I have been interested with the new alternative online business to increase my earning. At least I have to try looking for the new alternative cpc/cpm to Google Adsense. When browsing over the Internet, finding the SKYCPM is something like the guide to lead " Don't put all eggs in one basket" and I think everybody will agree with that
What is SKYCPM? Is this cpm business SKYCPM really pay? How this SKYCPM work? Anyone have been success with this SKYCPM? All those question came to my mind when finding the new alternative ecpm business which hopefully can be the alternative way to google adsense. Most f them are doubtful.
Well gathering the answer must be done. To have the fixed answer, what is else better than the new own self experience? I decided to register and setting up ads display. Everything work well. Waiting what happen next, frequently login to SKYCPM publisher dasboard. I don't want to miss anything, since SKYCPM is new for me.
After a week displaying the super big size ads from SKYCPM, then I find that the earning is really small. I find the note in my publisher dashboard which stats my earning. It say that my earning is $1.33 bla..bla for 89.682 ads impression with total CTR 0.39 696% in my blogs. Really amazing, amazingly shocking me ha..ha... Please help me, anyone have any idea? 89.682 impression for $1.33, is that worthy? I now wonder how can be success with SKYCPM business?

From Dark Revolution Template to Clean Revolution News Template

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:53:00 +0800

I have used black revolution template which is converted from wordpress theme for several months. When I customized as I like, I have some unsolved issue concerning using that black revolution template.
Today I am interested with the new fresh clean revolution template. And I change the old one with this fresh clean revolution one. This clean, mostly in white colour, look fresh and tidy. I has several feature like breadcrumb, adblock space under each post, etc. However this space which is used to display the advertisement, according to me, is not too advantageous for me. So I exclude it.
I really like this new, look simple template , which is converted from wordpress theme. Hopefully, it can get ma have blogging more actively. This template is presented in adsense day template by bloganol.

Finding Suitable Web Hosting

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:14:00 +0800

Blogging is an online activity. Behind a blog, there are several tools and and supplemental software which hold. When we like blogging then actually we need web hosting, domain, blogging software and other supporting devices.
Many blogger star to use such blogging requirements in free services. Such free services in blogging package are like blogger, wordpress and other blogging platforms. Most of those services include domain, engine software and also hosting. Those three important things for blogging are not separated in partial thing but included in one package and even we do not realize that acrtually we use the three blogging utensils, especially the webhosting. However when blogging turns to be a high intensity, applying non-free and partial web hosting is very considerable.
Finding the source of webhosting services is not difficult but also not very easy. There are huge number of source available over the Internet and finding it is easy but choosing the suitable one is sometime turning a bit difficult thing. So be wise. Thing what actually we need and choose the best one.

Pagerank, Alexa and Dofollow plugin compatible for Firefox 3.6

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Fri, 9 Apr 2010 21:19:00 +0800

Pagerank, alexa rank and dofollow blog checkers seem to be the important adds on tools for blogging especially who want to run Internet business. That three tool are instant checker to show how well blog and browsed site according to certain consideration.
When I got update my firefox browsing engine, those instant tools were unfortunately not compatible with that new update firefox 3.6. I had tried to brows many information, but nothing came to me which help how to make compatible. Meanwhile I do need such adds on for checking instantly the performance of any blog, and my own blog according to google pagerank, alexa and whether the blog I visit dofollow platform or not. Due to unsatisfying result, I had to forget them. For moment, my browsing engine is not installed the adds on for google pagerank, alexa rank, dofollow checker.
Fortunately, unintentionally when I have browsed over the Internet, so many caught information about the updated adds on for google pagerank, alexa rank and dofollow checker which are compatible with firefox 3.6. Even I got the simpler adds on for google pagerank and alexa rank and the next day i got the updated dofollow checker for firefork 3.6. Thank you the experts who have done for such great works

Anyone Succeed with Skycpm?

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:03:00 +0800

CPM business opportunity. That was coming to my mind when I was browsing to find any information about alternative online business. I say it was an alternative because I have tried to go with Adsense and review. Both really work, working in term that they pay me, but in term of big success, I think I will one day he...he...
The CPM business opportunity is SkyCPM. What is skycpm? I realize it is late to talk about it because so many posts in blog and site which discuss what skycpm is, whether skycpm pay or not, how skycpm works, how we get payment from skycpm. There are a lot of information about that available over the Internet.Though it is late to talk about skycpm but it is propositioning more to convince myself. I am new about skycpm and that is why my post here have the tittle "anyone succeed with skycpm? I want to ask you all. Hopefully you give additional information concerning whether skycpm scam or not.
What make me interesting about skycpm is that it pays its publisher based on impression of the advertisement. Comparing to adsense, skycpm should be potentially easier to get money. What we have to do is driving traffic to our site. And that is a page impression is determined.

What Mean Eyeglasses for Us

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:06:00 +0800

Eyeglasses is not only usage necessity but also style one. People tend to find the eye protector which most comfortable as well as unique.
However finding the lowest price progressive glasses is not always easy. Some product offers the best value but often costs the higher prices. It is true that cost however determine the value. Much money spent will bring good value of product and less money will give not so good product. That is the nature and it seems hard to change.
Men are created with creativity. Those who offer the best with less cost will will be the best ones. That what I mean concerning buying eyeglass. There is good quality product with reasonable price we can find at Eric's Review of Zenni Optical. How can it be? The answer is located at the cutting down the distribution links. We all know that long distribution party system will cost much. It means that lesser party involved will result cheaper price for the product and that is done by the #1 online Rx glasses store of Zenni optical.

Useful Add ons in Mozilla while Blogging

noreply@blogger.com (Admin) — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:23:00 +0800

I am not good enough to know technically about information technology. Even I am not sure what is meant exactly by "add ons". In simple term for me, it is a complimentary customization tool especially mozilla firefox. There are three add ons which always match in my browser. they support much in blogging activity.
Page rank checker. This is the most important for me. I often feel excited to know the live google page rank while browsing any site, including my own site. It is simple because it embedded in the browser and automatically show the number of page rank if we open any site, opening the sitre as well as checking the page rank. The second add ons which I use to customize my browser engine is dofollow checker. Many blogger like dofollow typical blog or site which is believed to help increase the comment on certain blog. The blog owner and who make comments both have benefit from the dofollow blog. However this dofollow setting of other blog is not visible to see through the browser when we visit it. That is why I like to display that dofollow add on to make me easy knowing which one is dofollow and which is not. The third add on is alexa sparky. this add on is to check the alexa rank of every blog we visit.
Unfortunately, when I got update my browser engine, mozilla firefox 3.6, the firs two add ons are uncompatibel with that new browser update. I have tried to find how to check dofollow and google page rank in mozilla 3.6 but I find nothing. So anyone know?