<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:blogger='http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909</id><updated>2026-04-17T15:07:11.074+01:00</updated><category term="verbs"/><category term="food/cooking"/><category term="idioms"/><category term="pronunciation"/><category term="adjectives"/><category term="WotY"/><category term="spelling"/><category term="epithets"/><category term="medicine/disease"/><category term="books"/><category term="grammar"/><category term="education"/><category term="prepositions"/><category term="morphology"/><category term="babies and children"/><category term="adverbs"/><category term="fashion/clothing"/><category term="politeness"/><category term="sport"/><category term="time"/><category term="games"/><category term="transport(ation)"/><category term="body parts"/><category term="names"/><category term="rituals"/><category term="taboo"/><category term="more complicated than you might think"/><category term="architecture"/><category term="shopping"/><category term="holidays"/><category term="politics/history"/><category term="dialect"/><category term="interjections"/><category term="metaphor"/><category term="prepositional/phrasal verbs"/><category term="sex"/><category term="AusE"/><category term="geography"/><category term="law"/><category term="animals"/><category term="money"/><category term="occupations"/><category term="bureaucracy"/><category term="count/mass"/><category term="prescriptivism"/><category term="class"/><category term="Canadian count"/><category term="bodily functions"/><category term="humo(u)r"/><category term="numbers"/><category term="Americanization"/><category term="SAfE"/><category term="Scrabble"/><category term="crime/punishment"/><category term="journalism"/><category term="music"/><category term="recreation"/><category term="signage"/><category term="television"/><category term="trade names"/><category term="clipping"/><category term="stereotypes"/><category term="untranslatable"/><category term="French"/><category term="ScottishE"/><category term="determiners"/><category term="intoxicants"/><category term="measurement"/><category term="punctuation"/><category term="foreign words"/><category term="furniture"/><category term="hardware"/><category term="Janus words"/><category term="Latin"/><category term="competition"/><category term="containers"/><category term="disability"/><category term="euphemism"/><category term="gender"/><category term="housework"/><category term="past tense"/><category term="plurals"/><category term="IrishE"/><category term="U and non-U"/><category term="auxiliary verbs"/><category term="communication"/><category term="hygiene"/><category term="project ideas"/><category term="race/ethnicity"/><category term="rhoticity"/><category term="Britishization"/><category term="CanE"/><category term="cliche"/><category term="colo(u)rs"/><category term="conjunctions"/><category term="dictionaries"/><category term="emotions/moods"/><category term="film"/><category term="guest bloggers"/><category term="negation"/><category term="plants"/><category term="pronouns/proforms"/><category term="AVIC"/><category term="exclamations"/><category term="onomatopoeia"/><category term="Greek"/><category term="alphabet"/><category term="announcements"/><category term="backformation"/><category term="blends"/><category term="death"/><category term="hobbies"/><category term="office supplies"/><category term="overstatement"/><category term="understatement"/><category term="Lynneukah"/><category term="NZE"/><category term="Sweden"/><category term="computers"/><category term="contractions"/><category term="information structure"/><category term="light verbs"/><category term="questions"/><category term="weather"/><category term="German"/><category term="Italian"/><category term="Spanish"/><category term="global English"/><category term="linguistic relativity"/><category term="nominali{s/z}ation"/><category term="packaging"/><category term="religion"/><category term="swedish"/><category term="symbols"/><category term="theat{er/re}"/><category term="Dutch"/><category term="OrigAmENowBrE"/><category term="acronyms"/><category term="newsletter"/><category term="not-SbaCL"/><category term="puzzle"/><category term="subjunctive"/><category term="supernatural"/><category term="weapons"/><title type='text'>Separated by a Common Language</title><subtitle type='html'>Observations on British and American English by an American linguist in the UK</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default?redirect=false'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25&amp;redirect=false'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>657</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-3673088479746321496</id><published>2026-04-12T21:01:00.005+01:00</published><updated>2026-04-12T21:12:14.963+01:00</updated><title type='text'>administration and government</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;It&#39;s about time this topic has its own blog post. It&#39;s been an aside to other discussions on &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/search?q=government+AND+administration&amp;amp;search-button=Search&quot;&gt;several occasions&lt;/a&gt;. It&#39;s not so much a difference between American and British English &lt;i&gt;per se&lt;/i&gt;, but a difference in how our political systems work, and hence a difference in which words we need to use about them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;float: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikl6z-PdaWglxPbW-eFQxkXZnTTBAtk4hLa0g4v-TtN5h8zb4dbcqqjDzcuYcJjyoLIJs8JVKgUbOEi7iIHIcxlzRHyFT4r9_VMJbs_J4kUOHuFA0X5iHCs59RbtcfmcY4wjvS50qckJ1gE4j78tXS7sJLc_LNh0RCiOBKfKjtuKY70NR84RFZ/s1024/Prime_Minister&#39;s_Questions_(Full_Chamber).jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;581&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1024&quot; height=&quot;182&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikl6z-PdaWglxPbW-eFQxkXZnTTBAtk4hLa0g4v-TtN5h8zb4dbcqqjDzcuYcJjyoLIJs8JVKgUbOEi7iIHIcxlzRHyFT4r9_VMJbs_J4kUOHuFA0X5iHCs59RbtcfmcY4wjvS50qckJ1gE4j78tXS7sJLc_LNh0RCiOBKfKjtuKY70NR84RFZ/s320/Prime_Minister&#39;s_Questions_(Full_Chamber).jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;PM&#39;s Question Time at UK parliament &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_the_United_Kingdom#/media/File:Prime_Minister&#39;s_Questions_(Full_Chamber).jpg&quot;&gt;(Wikimedia commons)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Because the UK has a &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_system&quot;&gt;parliamentary system&lt;/a&gt; of government, the political party that controls the parliament is the ruling party of the government as a whole. So, people talk about &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;the Labour government &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;or&lt;b&gt; &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;Conservative government &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;when that party has the majority of seats in the House of Commons, since that party chooses the person who will be prime minister, who then makes the political appointments to cabinet positions. That party is, essentially, governing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The US has a &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_system&quot;&gt;presidential system&lt;/a&gt;, in which the president is elected independently of the legislature. The executive (presidential) and legislative branches of government are accorded their own powers, and the party in control of the executive branch may not be in control of either or both of the legislative chambers (the Senate and the House of Representatives). So when talking about the president and cabinet, it&#39;s inaccurate to say things like &lt;i&gt;the Obama government&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(let me live in the past, please), since the president leads only one branch of the government. Instead, we usually speak of the &lt;i&gt;Obama administration&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, this isn&#39;t really a difference between AmE and BrE because if Americans talk about British politics, they would need the more parliamentary language, and if Britons talk about American politics, they&#39;ll need the more presidential language, for accuracy. But do people always speak accurately about these things?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For &lt;i&gt;government&lt;/i&gt;, they mostly do. The images below show the most common words between &lt;i&gt;the &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;government &lt;/i&gt;in the AmE &amp;amp; BrE parts of the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/glowbe/&quot;&gt;Corpus of Global Web-Based English&lt;/a&gt;, which was collected in 2012–13, when the UK had a coalition government of the Conservative and Liberal Democrat parties. There, you can see &lt;i&gt;coalition &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;Labour &lt;/i&gt;in the UK data, but only general adjectives and countries in the American. That hasn&#39;t changed in more recent data. There&#39;s little talk about &lt;i&gt;the Biden government &lt;/i&gt;or &lt;i&gt;the Trump government&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhr2ulHg11A6JQj_ukSxggkvCTGDFGRKaVfxI2lAuTQvI7EZyhMxGx5Z8i4m6pKfPx6JO_xc6DppEjRieln0wSqDbNekEDmC-ai5eIa5NDTVlBvouKAZJHXB1DJh6gWk8tXUgH1gjvZgh0ONGWhghA1hL8ZuK1k7dZLrRVhoBe4AD343_ggFw_X/s1126/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2016.55.03.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;federal, US, Chinese, Israeli, British, American, central, Iranian, national, state, new, Japanese, Syrian, local&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1010&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1126&quot; height=&quot;287&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhr2ulHg11A6JQj_ukSxggkvCTGDFGRKaVfxI2lAuTQvI7EZyhMxGx5Z8i4m6pKfPx6JO_xc6DppEjRieln0wSqDbNekEDmC-ai5eIa5NDTVlBvouKAZJHXB1DJh6gWk8tXUgH1gjvZgh0ONGWhghA1hL8ZuK1k7dZLrRVhoBe4AD343_ggFw_X/w320-h287/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2016.55.03.png&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Most common words before&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;government&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in GloWbE AmE subcorpus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhDJBvXK9bPX_0eoem699E7mhNC8gt3W75YiyoE740HIiNR4fjeNuJDWJ705oNwCf27IxCLEmrwITH6HuT_PdJK_VMRC6mfT_rSANOkK9B3FnvR2vKrMqEvnBYxBcHtle7BIyN80_jAA-jyLSaC1_JGxbMaEhgtjyAJXIwYvlNRW7S_tuDmmblA/s1128/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2016.55.30.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;UK, British, federal, US, Scottish, coalition, Labour, Chinese, local, current, new, Israeli, Welsh, previous, US&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1006&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1128&quot; height=&quot;285&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhDJBvXK9bPX_0eoem699E7mhNC8gt3W75YiyoE740HIiNR4fjeNuJDWJ705oNwCf27IxCLEmrwITH6HuT_PdJK_VMRC6mfT_rSANOkK9B3FnvR2vKrMqEvnBYxBcHtle7BIyN80_jAA-jyLSaC1_JGxbMaEhgtjyAJXIwYvlNRW7S_tuDmmblA/w320-h285/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2016.55.30.png&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Most common words before&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;government&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;in GloWbE BrE subcorpus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;At American sub-national levels, it works the same: American states have &#39;presidential&#39; systems (just with governors, rather than presidents) and therefore they have &lt;i&gt;administrations&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;led by the governors, and American cities generally have city councils and mayors (details vary from state/city to state/city), and so we can talk of the &lt;i&gt;administration &lt;/i&gt;of a mayor or a governor. You can see that in the&amp;nbsp;GloWbE results below, where &lt;i&gt;administration &lt;/i&gt;is mostly prefaced by names of presidents, but also, at the bottom &lt;i&gt;Bloomberg&lt;/i&gt;, who was mayor of New York City at the time.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjz0aHaUWJ5GYhR4W9JhQra8ulF8XQcBkCYZp91vAnoOE20isqa9JX90-Z_TC6bTbOX2jT9RXl3ea6O2c51ggnpznCqrGbSt85TdoyewfbSiLxnsxjUvP3MX7m5uMQknPEM4OIB9Lb_q5fim0delPADTeyy5lTowOnq4Cwag7l7SqZN7L8njj5e/s1000/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2017.58.17.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Obama, Bush, current, Clinton, Reagan, previous, new, Nixon, Carter, veterans, US, present, Kennedy Bloomberg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1000&quot; data-original-width=&quot;942&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjz0aHaUWJ5GYhR4W9JhQra8ulF8XQcBkCYZp91vAnoOE20isqa9JX90-Z_TC6bTbOX2jT9RXl3ea6O2c51ggnpznCqrGbSt85TdoyewfbSiLxnsxjUvP3MX7m5uMQknPEM4OIB9Lb_q5fim0delPADTeyy5lTowOnq4Cwag7l7SqZN7L8njj5e/w301-h320/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2017.58.17.png&quot; width=&quot;301&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;most common words between &lt;i&gt;the &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;administration &lt;/i&gt;in US&amp;nbsp;GloWbE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the UK, Wales and Scotland have their own parliaments, and so we see them having&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;governments &lt;/i&gt;in the chart above. At the county and city level, there are councils, and people tend to use the word &lt;i&gt;council &lt;/i&gt;instead of &lt;i&gt;government &lt;/i&gt;at the local level—e.g. &lt;i&gt;the Labour council.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Directly elected mayors are a 21st-century thing in England, and we don&#39;t yet seem to be seeing much use of mayor&#39;s name +&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;administration&lt;/i&gt;. I tried &lt;i&gt;Johnson administration &lt;/i&gt;in GloWbE (since Boris J was London mayor in&amp;nbsp;GloWbE time), but all examples in the UK referred to Lyndon Baines Johnson, the American president—and most of the other &lt;i&gt;the ___ administration &lt;/i&gt;examples in UK&amp;nbsp;GloWbE refer to American politics. (I also looked for &lt;i&gt;the Khan administration &lt;/i&gt;in a more current corpus, but there one finds it referring to Pakistani politics, not the government of London.)&amp;nbsp;But there is an interesting point at the bottom of this chart:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhinMv67PCTRCO0adjlCA4-L_Zo_2XncwY6bvrL9B7BhfkxZQ76n9ZCGcxXE3-jdB9bgMkvKF27d-JRdtOkBgxA4mUBZCtTmVGj4PZphB81S3RW-u0_vqkB9jG8tN4KHCWdd44XGdExKjyyrJNfMhVbfh4aJCbrGHKyeDuRPaRJoqNUNuaiNXo1/s1134/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2017.58.46.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1134&quot; data-original-width=&quot;962&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhinMv67PCTRCO0adjlCA4-L_Zo_2XncwY6bvrL9B7BhfkxZQ76n9ZCGcxXE3-jdB9bgMkvKF27d-JRdtOkBgxA4mUBZCtTmVGj4PZphB81S3RW-u0_vqkB9jG8tN4KHCWdd44XGdExKjyyrJNfMhVbfh4aJCbrGHKyeDuRPaRJoqNUNuaiNXo1/s320/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2017.58.46.png&quot; width=&quot;271&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;most common words between&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;administration&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;in UK GloWbE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Labour administration&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;is about 29 times less common than &lt;i&gt;the Labour government&lt;/i&gt;, but it&#39;s there. A closer look at the data indicates that this use of &lt;i&gt;administration&lt;/i&gt; is more common in Scotland—with most, if not all of the &lt;i&gt;Labour&lt;/i&gt;s from Scotland, and certainly all of the &lt;i&gt;SNP&lt;/i&gt;s (Scottish National Party):&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghNllzIlDG8ZGQesXenV5jgTS7SOB4XtHMiRr1gom7sYkRNDf5hyL2UgBtAnRrqdWzAvl09sc3IYaiIvics70mjFiutetuzqef2zLid0hl7LEMOPgN2R8k2GEUWwXZY0CUmUa-2bgstlcTHfn-fZySfZrmZ7yes8ZTZ1im9F6_wBPAE-cTenXH/s1284/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2019.13.40.png&quot; style=&quot;font-style: italic; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;570&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1284&quot; height=&quot;142&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghNllzIlDG8ZGQesXenV5jgTS7SOB4XtHMiRr1gom7sYkRNDf5hyL2UgBtAnRrqdWzAvl09sc3IYaiIvics70mjFiutetuzqef2zLid0hl7LEMOPgN2R8k2GEUWwXZY0CUmUa-2bgstlcTHfn-fZySfZrmZ7yes8ZTZ1im9F6_wBPAE-cTenXH/s320/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2019.13.40.png&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;the + &lt;/i&gt;[UK party name] + &lt;i&gt;administration&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;But that usage is going up, across the country:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgm0i3z0rd4aYeNZJk76DfEH9qsqMyZopAUeg56xm5mXYo7ZY4zwCowL1T4f_Gm3TuVfw4g1k9TStAUv_GkYOv3g9KZMTkEGBAVXj5OiwIRNVsI-dzF-JvexWhZCCr-g-FZhIQQlUO5mi13Ospv2GBfhZ9VCDAtnhPp9sCbNGNrmCpjvr3DI0i_/s2032/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2019.17.27.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;694&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2032&quot; height=&quot;109&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgm0i3z0rd4aYeNZJk76DfEH9qsqMyZopAUeg56xm5mXYo7ZY4zwCowL1T4f_Gm3TuVfw4g1k9TStAUv_GkYOv3g9KZMTkEGBAVXj5OiwIRNVsI-dzF-JvexWhZCCr-g-FZhIQQlUO5mi13Ospv2GBfhZ9VCDAtnhPp9sCbNGNrmCpjvr3DI0i_/s320/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2019.17.27.png&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;the Labour/Conservative administration&lt;/i&gt; in the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/now/&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;News on the Web &lt;/i&gt;corpus &lt;/a&gt;(UK part)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Without any willingness to go through a&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;lot &lt;/i&gt;of examples, I can&#39;t tell you how many of these &lt;i&gt;administrations &lt;/i&gt;refer to the UK government versus devolved country governments or local governments, but I believe there&#39;s a mix. There are a very small number of cases of&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;the Sunak administration &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;the Starmer administration &lt;/i&gt;as well.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;Administration &lt;/i&gt;is not the first US political word I&#39;ve seen used in a slightly-less-appropriate way in the UK: &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2016/12/2016-us-to-uk-word-of-year-gerrymander.html&quot;&gt;gerrymander&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;was my US-to-UK Word of the Year in 2016. But lest you think political words only go in one direction, I&#39;ll point you to &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2015/12/2015-uk-to-us-word-of-year-backbencher.html&quot;&gt;backbencher&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, my 2015 UK-to-US Word of the Year.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/3673088479746321496/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2026/04/administration-and-government.html#comment-form' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3673088479746321496'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3673088479746321496'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2026/04/administration-and-government.html' title='administration and government'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikl6z-PdaWglxPbW-eFQxkXZnTTBAtk4hLa0g4v-TtN5h8zb4dbcqqjDzcuYcJjyoLIJs8JVKgUbOEi7iIHIcxlzRHyFT4r9_VMJbs_J4kUOHuFA0X5iHCs59RbtcfmcY4wjvS50qckJ1gE4j78tXS7sJLc_LNh0RCiOBKfKjtuKY70NR84RFZ/s72-c/Prime_Minister&#39;s_Questions_(Full_Chamber).jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-3744015055278820872</id><published>2026-03-21T23:42:00.038+00:00</published><updated>2026-03-22T20:09:12.435+00:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Britishization"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="prepositions"/><title type='text'>alongside</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;A few months ago, an American friend of my spouse asked him to ask me: &quot;Why is everyone suddenly saying &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;alongside&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;?&quot;&amp;nbsp; I hadn&#39;t noticed it at that point, but once he&#39;d mentioned it, I felt surrounded by &lt;i&gt;alongside&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As this Google Books ngram shows, the word has taken off in the 21st century:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;300&quot; hspace=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; name=&quot;ngram_chart&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; src=&quot;https://books.google.com/ngrams/interactive_chart?content=alongside&amp;amp;year_start=1800&amp;amp;year_end=2022&amp;amp;corpus=en&amp;amp;smoothing=3&quot; vspace=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;600&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Separating out the British and American books, we can see that this is a British-led trend. 
  &lt;iframe frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;300&quot; hspace=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; name=&quot;ngram_chart&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; src=&quot;https://books.google.com/ngrams/interactive_chart?content=alongside%3Aeng_gb,alongside%3Aeng_us&amp;amp;year_start=1800&amp;amp;year_end=2022&amp;amp;corpus=en&amp;amp;smoothing=3&quot; vspace=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;600&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;  
  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Alongside &lt;/i&gt;climbed in British usage throughout the 20th century. American English suddenly decided to (orig. AmE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;play catch-up&lt;/b&gt; in the 21st century.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This trend is observable in other corpora too. The &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/now/&quot;&gt;News on the Web corpus&lt;/a&gt;, for example, shows more than double the rate of &lt;i&gt;alongside &lt;/i&gt;in British news sources versus American ones.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCSLYlwJm3aVUCVDVEY9PGwEsuqczFaZgcioaKpo7T_1xdOEW0v5q5jgsah9mbJaIA5HtCyvU6Sb-UMixv8fPHcAiMBfBmcilFjXJwvz3j29vyrJQ4rT4AqjGN149zz9o5f8dg8pKvdz9zTWJvBRP382SHBzHorhGNw6ywOKyZmfem7dUZngwz/s1796/Screenshot%202026-03-21%20at%2022.47.15.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;table shows Approx 50 alongside per million words in US corpus,  120 per million word&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;612&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1796&quot; height=&quot;218&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCSLYlwJm3aVUCVDVEY9PGwEsuqczFaZgcioaKpo7T_1xdOEW0v5q5jgsah9mbJaIA5HtCyvU6Sb-UMixv8fPHcAiMBfBmcilFjXJwvz3j29vyrJQ4rT4AqjGN149zz9o5f8dg8pKvdz9zTWJvBRP382SHBzHorhGNw6ywOKyZmfem7dUZngwz/w640-h218/Screenshot%202026-03-21%20at%2022.47.15.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;alongside &lt;/i&gt;by country&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;And within the US News data, the rise of &lt;i&gt;alongside &lt;/i&gt;has sped up since 2020.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiMkfPA44qWHokwYwYxzhmzRe4VtVLVFGe78Zqf_zRb_zwMe4XXCW8zkESLPHSi0EKa97CKuooKEVUOSec-R_qSNP9vZXn4HNc549IT4Zm7K3MyD6QI9BEk-t_auR1nWZQSZR1Pzq5V1QF_JjxObZA_ypUVvmOIjwW6RNkypMYfU4oapi0-RCLH/s2140/Screenshot%202026-03-21%20at%2022.48.42.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;748&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2140&quot; height=&quot;224&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiMkfPA44qWHokwYwYxzhmzRe4VtVLVFGe78Zqf_zRb_zwMe4XXCW8zkESLPHSi0EKa97CKuooKEVUOSec-R_qSNP9vZXn4HNc549IT4Zm7K3MyD6QI9BEk-t_auR1nWZQSZR1Pzq5V1QF_JjxObZA_ypUVvmOIjwW6RNkypMYfU4oapi0-RCLH/w640-h224/Screenshot%202026-03-21%20at%2022.48.42.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;alongside &lt;/i&gt;on just American news sites&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/2011/03/03/amongst/&quot;&gt;Among(st)&lt;/a&gt; the prepositions, &lt;i&gt;alongside &lt;/i&gt;is a relative (orig. AmE) &lt;b&gt;newbie&lt;/b&gt;. In the OED, where it&#39;s marked as &quot;originally nautical,&quot; its first citation is from 1704; its definition: &quot;In a position parallel to; side by side with; close to the side of; next to, beside.&quot; So the examples are about boats positioned next to other boats or docks, etc. It seems to have gradually moved onto land, especially in the UK, in the 19th century.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;So why have Americans suddenly (orig. AmE) &lt;b&gt;taken a shine to &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;alongside&lt;/i&gt;? Why is it more attractive than &lt;i&gt;along &lt;/i&gt;or &lt;i&gt;beside &lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;or &lt;i&gt;next to&lt;/i&gt;? Wondering whether there was a trend &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2013/07/towards-and-other-wards.html&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;toward(s)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; longer, British prepositions, I tried comparing it to &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;amongst&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;. But the more-BrE&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;amongst&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;seems to have peaked in AmE about 12 years ago:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgB-KU6sB85_1DHu2EghPpQws-S0A5JFH64oHFto5E391wZIhjoltrZuDQEJOcL5VrEaBVE97izr3adVUcbjI0dlrXn5GSxHpwxoT5Ql6hSL7ivTTHsYSQUBOvfOFL6FtkwyndJpWvOad0TBqAcITft-ISAGql9PYcA99YxcvyjAlfLgtTjthAU/s2160/Screenshot%202026-03-21%20at%2023.25.20.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;chart shows a decline in rate of use of amongst: from about 16 per million words in 2014 to about 8 per million words in 2026&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;730&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2160&quot; height=&quot;216&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgB-KU6sB85_1DHu2EghPpQws-S0A5JFH64oHFto5E391wZIhjoltrZuDQEJOcL5VrEaBVE97izr3adVUcbjI0dlrXn5GSxHpwxoT5Ql6hSL7ivTTHsYSQUBOvfOFL6FtkwyndJpWvOad0TBqAcITft-ISAGql9PYcA99YxcvyjAlfLgtTjthAU/w640-h216/Screenshot%202026-03-21%20at%2023.25.20.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;amongst o&lt;/i&gt;n American news websites&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;In 2013, &lt;a href=&quot;https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/10/amongst-hypercorrection-among-millennials-as-the-line-between-formal-and-informal-gets-blurred-in-the-internet-age.html&quot;&gt;the online magazine &lt;i&gt;Slate &lt;/i&gt;published an article by Ben Yagoda&lt;/a&gt; about Americans saying &lt;i&gt;amongst &lt;/i&gt;instead of &lt;i&gt;among&lt;/i&gt;. Perhaps once people were talking about the &quot;British invasion&quot; of&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;amongst&lt;/i&gt;, Americans became more self-conscious about it. If Ben published an article about &lt;i&gt;alongside&lt;/i&gt;, could that change its fortunes?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Having had &lt;i&gt;alongside &lt;/i&gt;pointed out to me, I&#39;m now self-conscious about using it. But this blog gives us a record of me using it:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&quot;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Droid Sans&amp;quot;, Arial, &amp;quot;Arial Unicode MS&amp;quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #2e3d4c; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;BrE has&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #2e3d4c; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;kerb&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #2e3d4c; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Droid Sans&amp;quot;, Arial, &amp;quot;Arial Unicode MS&amp;quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #2e3d4c; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;for the edging &lt;u&gt;alongside&lt;/u&gt; a road&quot; (&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2020/05/curb-kerb.html&quot;&gt;curb/kerb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, May 2020)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Droid Sans&amp;quot;, Arial, &amp;quot;Arial Unicode MS&amp;quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #2e3d4c; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Droid Sans&amp;quot;, Arial, &amp;quot;Arial Unicode MS&amp;quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #2e3d4c; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;British&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #2e3d4c; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;pigs in blankets&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Droid Sans&amp;quot;, Arial, &amp;quot;Arial Unicode MS&amp;quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #2e3d4c; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;are small sausages wrapped in bacon (and cooked!). They are delicious. They&#39;re traditionally served &lt;u&gt;alongside&lt;/u&gt; turkey as part of Christmas dinner.&quot;&amp;nbsp; (&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2020/02/pigs-in-blankets.html&quot;&gt;pigs in blankets&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;/b&gt;Feb 2020)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Droid Sans&amp;quot;, Arial, &amp;quot;Arial Unicode MS&amp;quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #2e3d4c; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Droid Sans&amp;quot;, Arial, &amp;quot;Arial Unicode MS&amp;quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #2e3d4c; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I&#39;ve seen a lot of &quot;down with grammar!&quot; messages, often &lt;u&gt;alongside&lt;/u&gt; &#39;learning should be fun!&#39;&quot; (&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2016/05/grammar-is-not-enemy.html&quot;&gt;grammar is not the enemy&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;May 2016)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;Droid Sans, Arial, Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;So, what do you think: do I sound Britified when I say such things, or is &lt;i&gt;alongside&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;completely international now?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;Droid Sans, Arial, Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;color: #2e3d4c;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #2e3d4c;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br class=&quot;Apple-interchange-newline&quot; /&gt;PS: Searching for commentary about&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;alongside&lt;/i&gt;, I found some concern about the use of&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;alongside with&lt;/i&gt;. Further (orig. BrE) &lt;b&gt;rooting around&lt;/b&gt; in the corpora, though, show that&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;alongside with&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;is a tiny proportion of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;alongside&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;usages (0.7 per million words in AmE, 0.8 per million words in BrE in the NOW corpus).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/3744015055278820872/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2026/03/alongside.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3744015055278820872'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3744015055278820872'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2026/03/alongside.html' title='alongside'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCSLYlwJm3aVUCVDVEY9PGwEsuqczFaZgcioaKpo7T_1xdOEW0v5q5jgsah9mbJaIA5HtCyvU6Sb-UMixv8fPHcAiMBfBmcilFjXJwvz3j29vyrJQ4rT4AqjGN149zz9o5f8dg8pKvdz9zTWJvBRP382SHBzHorhGNw6ywOKyZmfem7dUZngwz/s72-w640-h218-c/Screenshot%202026-03-21%20at%2022.47.15.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-9185857835408040228</id><published>2026-02-26T11:33:00.008+00:00</published><updated>2026-02-28T13:05:45.094+00:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="spelling"/><title type='text'>Are these words misspelled/misspelt most?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The people at &lt;a href=&quot;http://WordUnscrambler.pro&quot;&gt;WordUnscrambler.pro&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;sent me a list of &quot;the most &lt;b&gt;misspelled&lt;/b&gt; (BrE &lt;b&gt;misspelt&lt;/b&gt;*)&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;words&quot; for the UK. I get a lot of these &quot;we did this thing so that your blog will give us free advertising,&quot; and I usually ignore them, but I&#39;ll give this one some attention—partly because they sent a US list to &lt;a href=&quot;https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=69292&quot;&gt;Language Log&lt;/a&gt; (who published it), so I can do some comparison.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;But I first have to gripe a bit. Here&#39;s the methodology:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; We analyzed Jan 1, 2025 - Dec 17, 2025 search data from Google Trends for &quot;How do you spell&quot; and &quot;How to spell&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;That&#39;s not a method for discovering the &quot;most misspelled words.&quot; That&#39;s a method for discovering the &lt;i&gt;most looked-up spellings&lt;/i&gt;. This is the kind of (BrE) &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/2015/07/07/jiggery-pokery/&quot;&gt;jiggery-pokery&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;makes me hate headlines. &amp;nbsp;If you think to look up a word, then you might be insecure or curious about its spelling. But that&#39;s &lt;i&gt;keeping you from &lt;/i&gt;misspelling it. I&#39;m betting that when they&#39;re not looking up spellings like these, those people are out in the world (like the rest of us) are confidently spelling&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;accommodation&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;with one&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;m&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;and letting spellcheck catch it for them (or not).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nevertheless, the WU.pro folks showed admirable linguistic sensitivity in &lt;i&gt;not &lt;/i&gt;declaring the Americanisms on the list &quot;misspelled.&quot; Instead, they note repeatedly that both the US and UK variants &quot;are correct&quot;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;United Kingdom&#39;s most &lt;strike&gt;misspelled words&lt;/strike&gt;&amp;nbsp;queried spellings:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;1.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;Colour&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 109 200 searches - Both colour and color are correct.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;2.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;Favourite&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 82 900 searches - Both favourite and &lt;span style=&quot;color: #2b00fe;&quot;&gt;favorite&lt;/span&gt; are correct.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;3.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;License&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 59 000 searches.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;4.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;Diarrhoea&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 58 700 searches - Both diarrhoea and diarrhea are correct.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;5.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;Jewellery&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 56 400 searches.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #2b00fe;&quot;&gt;6.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;Definitely&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 53 000 searches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;7.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;Auntie&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 50 400 searches - Both auntie and aunty are correct.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;8.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;Weird&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 48 000&amp;nbsp;searches.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #2b00fe;&quot;&gt;9.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;Business&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 46 800 searches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;10.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;Behaviour&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 40 800 searches - Both behaviour and behavior are correct.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;11.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;Neighbour&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 39 600 searches - Both neighbour and &lt;span style=&quot;color: #2b00fe;&quot;&gt;neighbor&lt;/span&gt; are correct.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;12.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;Country&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 29 000 searches.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;13.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;Queue&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 22 800 searches.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #2b00fe;&quot;&gt;14.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;Gorgeous&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;- 22 600 searches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-language-override: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;15.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #2b00fe;&quot;&gt;Necessary&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp; 23 000 searches.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#39;ve added the blue to show which ones are also on the US top 10, which I&#39;ve copied at the bottom of this post.† (Not sure why the UK got a top 15 and the US a top 10. Nor why &lt;i&gt;necessary &lt;/i&gt;has more searches but is lower on the list than &lt;i&gt;queue&lt;/i&gt;.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some of these are definitely difficult—others, like &lt;i&gt;country&lt;/i&gt;, surprised me. But let&#39;s have a little look at whether people do misspell them, using the Corpus of Global Web-Based English. (I&#39;m using that one even though it&#39;s 13 years old now because web-based English is more likely to include misspellings than the published writing in other comparative corpora.) I won&#39;t try to cover all of them, just the ones that strike me as transatlantically interesting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #38761d;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Postscript &lt;/b&gt;: On the same day as I wrote this post, another company released its (much better) analysis of British misspellings. See the bottom of this post for more on that.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;US/UK variants&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div&gt;Where there are US/UK variants, it&#39;s often the case that the corpus has included American writing and tagged it as GB because it&#39;s on a British website (or vice versa). For that reason, I&#39;ve (&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2015/07/a-foreign-spelling-test-for-glowbe.html&quot;&gt;in another post&lt;/a&gt;) used&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;-or/our&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;spellings&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;as a diagnostic for how reliable the country tagging is in GloWbE. So, it&#39;s not necessarily the case that BrE writers are mispelling them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;-or/-our&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;In that vein, the following graph shows that there&#39;s probably more AmE writing on UK websites than BrE writing on AmE websites—which is not so surprising, since there are presumably about 5 times more US than UK writers on the internet and text from American wire services and other companies might be reprinted wholesale on UK sites.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0EFhK_8EzbrBQnXiUGYM-bFkQ8fLDCgBLbB3TGmNrJCkfa5KAfPoCBODa5x42KPZ3HGlWVg6naFTdXvPzkSH_vK6rC9itiEjbuBJSR8d_-lPddFUzVxkxXVLKSGKg9SybRnDAmdE02pPud2KWeABq2kHXL9hocCefYWFktv6bt2wqXNzszYhK/s1112/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2009.46.43.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;variant spellings for favourite, color, and neighbor show the O-R spellings strongly American, but they also account for about 1/5 of the British-tagged spellings&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;676&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1112&quot; height=&quot;244&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0EFhK_8EzbrBQnXiUGYM-bFkQ8fLDCgBLbB3TGmNrJCkfa5KAfPoCBODa5x42KPZ3HGlWVg6naFTdXvPzkSH_vK6rC9itiEjbuBJSR8d_-lPddFUzVxkxXVLKSGKg9SybRnDAmdE02pPud2KWeABq2kHXL9hocCefYWFktv6bt2wqXNzszYhK/w400-h244/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2009.46.43.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;rates of -&lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; versus -&lt;i&gt;or&lt;/i&gt; spellings in&amp;nbsp;GloWbE&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the other thing to take from the &lt;i&gt;our/or &lt;/i&gt;chart is: Canadian spelling is in crisis. The (standard Canadian) -&lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; spellings only just outnumber the -&lt;i&gt;or&lt;/i&gt; ones. Meanwhile, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj69d89l8l5o&quot;&gt;the Canadian Prime Minister recently got into trouble&lt;/a&gt; for using British &lt;i&gt;-ise&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;spellings that are not traditionally Canadian.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;licence/license&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;License&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;is a tricky one because it&#39;s the correct spelling for BrE, &lt;i&gt;when it is a verb&lt;/i&gt;. But it is &lt;i&gt;licence &lt;/i&gt;in BrE when it is a noun (&lt;i&gt;s&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in AmE for both).&amp;nbsp; The first chart here shows a lot of (incorrect for BrE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;license &lt;/i&gt;as a noun in the GB corpus—but that will, again, be partly due to American writing on British websites, rather than British writers misspelling it. It&#39;s hard to know how much each factor contributes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;in the word string &#39;a license to&#39;, there are 275 spellings with s on UK sites, and 450 with the &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot; c&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;634&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1130&quot; height=&quot;225&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3BLuYHp-2tTj4u2BmvM1lQRiEKjCv2ZAJ8VVG_VOUMVPm8v2-X3XukVFI0E4cmK3gFe1e4Ij08zDFtTN7vCeusMht77Ugo6YVzbJvsQFaOiapI4qDN_YlkrIcFBGMKXW9GtymoDJB9Tg8wI3bWOXcmvLVKIiy6ydIcqL8USTNuADaI2QDpPNc/w400-h225/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.10.36.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;So, more interesting from a misspelling standpoint is &lt;i&gt;licenced&lt;/i&gt;, which is incorrect in all Englishes, but about 5% of the UK spellings. &lt;i&gt;License &lt;/i&gt;is definitely&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;a word that Britons misspell.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;504&quot; data-original-width=&quot;974&quot; height=&quot;208&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhhbejDt1cElY883yclE8csuk1C0myW4KuYZGcwfCqHQiO0mFHQzW6rcjKcXf3SZt0zitilqmTgD1sDjigqnc_m-tzRByPPxPhX0zC6qgeJi7DBTeCuoQxfvyKxHmQUeDrTGHeCIp8xxtNalTGTn2Q00aoz-tNbQLth_3dKPaDYLIpDjEZMTxF/w400-h208/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.10.10.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was surprised not to see &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;practice/&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;practise &lt;/i&gt;on the UK misspelling list. You can &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2019/05/practice-and-practise.html&quot;&gt;read more about that at an older post&lt;/a&gt;, if you&#39;d like to.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Diarrhea/diarrhoea&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;This one seems to have little to do with US/UK confusion.&amp;nbsp;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Diarrh(o)ea&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;is just difficult and unpleasant for everyone. And personal: everybody&#39;s misspelling it their own ways:&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5ZKn35w-O6j4TmTVFprgLt3jILhwvXvXny1n_VtKx36mENXYhL6PrrFRHidPLqfOzx0CMtfSUgmDdzTyAPYWBl_ONnzCR6gOtwTPyLXcZpgMN9lg_xNYfdbGBcRsUa9YqeMNxnMtEJiJtKVoIytxZUtGmC4XhbXVsUyz3GbQcVAE8et2JO4YZ/s1014/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.28.35.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5ZKn35w-O6j4TmTVFprgLt3jILhwvXvXny1n_VtKx36mENXYhL6PrrFRHidPLqfOzx0CMtfSUgmDdzTyAPYWBl_ONnzCR6gOtwTPyLXcZpgMN9lg_xNYfdbGBcRsUa9YqeMNxnMtEJiJtKVoIytxZUtGmC4XhbXVsUyz3GbQcVAE8et2JO4YZ/s1014/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.28.35.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPO2yWWCpLZU1dG7aCwC7r4TlU43OeZRzaBjbiE5VfWWZypj3hJhOBkAjbMhjWlC0Jjr_w_dcfCyvR665KwPhWUv1fqCx3j8nGR7vC9m7wcd-Xgd40HW8VMZOkgxdUjN4jfVCYueIkUHbFBchSkkmMwmDGR_07qRtcDor3h6YBZQTWleNVUMOn/s928/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.30.53.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;786&quot; data-original-width=&quot;928&quot; height=&quot;271&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPO2yWWCpLZU1dG7aCwC7r4TlU43OeZRzaBjbiE5VfWWZypj3hJhOBkAjbMhjWlC0Jjr_w_dcfCyvR665KwPhWUv1fqCx3j8nGR7vC9m7wcd-Xgd40HW8VMZOkgxdUjN4jfVCYueIkUHbFBchSkkmMwmDGR_07qRtcDor3h6YBZQTWleNVUMOn/s320/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.30.53.png&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1014&quot; data-original-width=&quot;966&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5ZKn35w-O6j4TmTVFprgLt3jILhwvXvXny1n_VtKx36mENXYhL6PrrFRHidPLqfOzx0CMtfSUgmDdzTyAPYWBl_ONnzCR6gOtwTPyLXcZpgMN9lg_xNYfdbGBcRsUa9YqeMNxnMtEJiJtKVoIytxZUtGmC4XhbXVsUyz3GbQcVAE8et2JO4YZ/s320/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.28.35.png&quot; width=&quot;305&quot; /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;(The crossed-out ones are names that happened to be caught on my search for &quot;diarr*a&quot;. I don&#39;t envy them their &lt;i&gt;diarr-a &lt;/i&gt;names.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;jewellery/jewelry&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Jewellery&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;is not marked with &quot;&lt;i&gt;jewelry&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;is also correct&quot; in WU.pro&#39;s list, but &lt;i&gt;jewelry &lt;/i&gt;is the correct spelling in AmE. The AmE/BrE spelling difference is surely adding to the confusion about how to spell it, but the word is just difficult in its own right, with that double L and three-syllable pronunciation (=&lt;i&gt;jewelry&lt;/i&gt;).&amp;nbsp;Here&#39;s a shortened list of spellings in&amp;nbsp;GloWbE (there are lots more&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/10/one-off-and-one-of-kind.html&quot;&gt;one-off&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;spellings), where the older, now-AmE spelling&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;jewelry&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;appears more than 1/3 of the time on the UK sites, but some definite misspellings make their way in too.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgTq9Cl1vs4Ws2nj5Jekc1vSQT22y9Wov93HVWxmlF9SiFdLUtDmp8toxuZ_tNwxTSvOirBTJtKj1pVyiIWxwqI2ecgklgnXgBBHkskVbI83WnOAA_YT8HYTY5BAtjOTj70O6tNLOKjZedxlxKFYPoXwh3dIxcsRNVdk1-jU7Y0nV9VdiJtjCe6/s1184/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.34.29.png&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;common misspellings include jewel + e r y , jewel + l ry, and jewel + l a r y&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;566&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1184&quot; height=&quot;191&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgTq9Cl1vs4Ws2nj5Jekc1vSQT22y9Wov93HVWxmlF9SiFdLUtDmp8toxuZ_tNwxTSvOirBTJtKj1pVyiIWxwqI2ecgklgnXgBBHkskVbI83WnOAA_YT8HYTY5BAtjOTj70O6tNLOKjZedxlxKFYPoXwh3dIxcsRNVdk1-jU7Y0nV9VdiJtjCe6/w400-h191/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.34.29.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;The later &lt;i&gt;jewellery &lt;/i&gt;spelling seems to have derived from &lt;i&gt;jeweller + y &lt;/i&gt;(&#39;the stuff that the jeweller makes&#39;—&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/08/analogous.html&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;analogous&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;i&gt;pottery&lt;/i&gt;)&amp;nbsp;while &lt;i&gt;jewelry &lt;/i&gt;derives from &lt;i&gt;jewel+ry &lt;/i&gt;(&#39;products created from jewels&#39;—analogous to &lt;i&gt;pastry&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;balladry&lt;/i&gt;). In 1901, the OED commented (about BrE usage):&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;In commercial use commonly spelt&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;foreign-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;jewellery&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;; the form&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;foreign-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;jewelry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;is more rhetorical and poetic, and unassociated with the jeweller. But the pronunciation with three syllables is usual even with the former spelling.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, we might consider &lt;i&gt;jewelry&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;to be AmE &lt;i&gt;and &lt;/i&gt;old-fashioned BrE.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h2 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Words that are just hard to spell&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Weird&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&#39;s been my perception that &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;weird&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;is more a problem in UK spelling, and&amp;nbsp;GloWbE bears that out a little bit, with&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;wierd &lt;/i&gt;a greater proportion of the UK forms (about 3%) than the US (about 2%):&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhdZUjdciXu24V9f_EXUG7dLoWH_OLDViDx3AktM7KCPx9L83y_ilK_SGwb5XUQe0Rfw9lwT_OJepoTMYnXKmqvL9WS92rH6lJs_yyqsgbIKcP1o5vIN54leZg6afHxegL2D1RMqvwB9f4bpHN1DdBvexzuN04aTGDr-9mhGDfwz0uJKxfLOfx2/s1026/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.49.46.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;288&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1026&quot; height=&quot;113&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhdZUjdciXu24V9f_EXUG7dLoWH_OLDViDx3AktM7KCPx9L83y_ilK_SGwb5XUQe0Rfw9lwT_OJepoTMYnXKmqvL9WS92rH6lJs_yyqsgbIKcP1o5vIN54leZg6afHxegL2D1RMqvwB9f4bpHN1DdBvexzuN04aTGDr-9mhGDfwz0uJKxfLOfx2/w400-h113/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.49.46.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;country&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div&gt;Most people don&#39;t seem to have a problem with spelling &lt;i&gt;country&lt;/i&gt;, but those who misspell it are not more likely to be British:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjN9KABD1mfrh_OMI-9y6Dw039ZMeh5zGpRnKwPQaIJlqnPZokx8ZcD7ZREXdFoOqfyp4fB4qtPIbfnboHgaGjJlH0e6kGq7z7OJbgr7Wyv-BIdoEEVXpZVbAKRm5hvORVvunqpKhyphenhyphenG933VkR0Wx-CIB3ZEEspMzgvm0ZKXNhSBUrA39SL60Bx8/s1038/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.49.18.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;276&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1038&quot; height=&quot;106&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjN9KABD1mfrh_OMI-9y6Dw039ZMeh5zGpRnKwPQaIJlqnPZokx8ZcD7ZREXdFoOqfyp4fB4qtPIbfnboHgaGjJlH0e6kGq7z7OJbgr7Wyv-BIdoEEVXpZVbAKRm5hvORVvunqpKhyphenhyphenG933VkR0Wx-CIB3ZEEspMzgvm0ZKXNhSBUrA39SL60Bx8/w400-h106/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2010.49.18.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;queue&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;The word is much more common in BrE, but hard to spell everywhere. And yet, people seem to mostly get it right. Leaving off the final &lt;i&gt;e &lt;/i&gt;sometimes happens, but really not much:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhmRyONqdomSEUUl0Tg8MdXmNYqWJyXyzfCL6kg-mpiHQf0gvSUs3nK-05SFubRgvn9BDVns-_2BosJHaGYPzuZqNbZ0smWKD3KMQPu-tkErcGJwwv9itWBArPNdsB1pxaMyvBPmh-ImsWlphbOKsJ2DL8geJpWrlt6UeojRgq1jhZK8okDUzgW/s1090/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2009.50.24.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Four queue without final E in British corpus, compared to over 5000 spelt correctly. Around 1600 queue in US corpus, and none of the e-less misspellings.&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;622&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1090&quot; height=&quot;229&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhmRyONqdomSEUUl0Tg8MdXmNYqWJyXyzfCL6kg-mpiHQf0gvSUs3nK-05SFubRgvn9BDVns-_2BosJHaGYPzuZqNbZ0smWKD3KMQPu-tkErcGJwwv9itWBArPNdsB1pxaMyvBPmh-ImsWlphbOKsJ2DL8geJpWrlt6UeojRgq1jhZK8okDUzgW/w400-h229/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2009.50.24.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#39;d expected to find the word spelled like its homonyms &lt;i&gt;cue &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;Q&lt;/i&gt;, but there aren&#39;t many such misspellings. For the following chart, I searched for &lt;i&gt;queue, queu, que, Q &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;cue&lt;/i&gt;, but none of the &lt;i&gt;queu &lt;/i&gt;spellings showed up in the &#39;in a&#39; phrasing:&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiTRqRrH27rYLjSc1lR2hA6FybGUy7gBzDtDIvYFFJoJLxErcijFG2ITVaXxzF7AuPKo_tv4-kHV-n4_d6W-PFjlUEdaQMBWHqjKTRZE1YrDz4m9JHCsfQe1jo9bKDpg8ZrtT2hyphenhyphenqAfu0KzbldOTdqD0I7a9aznlKJgdEOOx8YbFFF2u5zu5VmU/s1136/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2011.18.19.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;602&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1136&quot; height=&quot;214&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiTRqRrH27rYLjSc1lR2hA6FybGUy7gBzDtDIvYFFJoJLxErcijFG2ITVaXxzF7AuPKo_tv4-kHV-n4_d6W-PFjlUEdaQMBWHqjKTRZE1YrDz4m9JHCsfQe1jo9bKDpg8ZrtT2hyphenhyphenqAfu0KzbldOTdqD0I7a9aznlKJgdEOOx8YbFFF2u5zu5VmU/w400-h214/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2011.18.19.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Q spelling might be an abbreviation, rather than a misspelling. But it&#39;s striking that the &lt;i&gt;cue &lt;/i&gt;homonym is absent from the British entirely. These people know a queue&#39;s a queue.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#39;m going to leave it there! But feel free to comment on these or the other words on the lists.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h4 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;&lt;h4 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h4&gt;&lt;p&gt;* The fact that &lt;i&gt;misspelled/misspelt &lt;/i&gt;has two spellings complicates&amp;nbsp;the old joke: Which word is always misspelled? &lt;i&gt;Misspelled&lt;/i&gt;!&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;(Or is it &lt;i&gt;misspelt&lt;/i&gt;?)&amp;nbsp; Anyway, &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/02/ed-versus-t.html&quot;&gt;I have an old post on &lt;i&gt;-ed &lt;/i&gt;versus &lt;i&gt;-t&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;past tenses&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 1.5em; margin: 1.2em 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;† The American list, via Language Log:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong style=&quot;font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12.48px;&quot;&gt;America&#39;s most misspelled words:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12.48px; line-height: 1.5em; margin: 1.2em 0px 1.2em 2em; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #2b00fe;&quot;&gt;Definitely&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;– 33 500 searches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Separate&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt;– 30 000 searches.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #2b00fe;&quot;&gt;Necessary&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;– 29 000 searches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Believe&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt;– 28 500 searches.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Through&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;– 28 000 searches.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #2b00fe;&quot;&gt;Gorgeous&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;–&amp;nbsp; 27 000 searches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #3d85c6;&quot;&gt;Neighbor&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;– 25 500 searches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #2b00fe;&quot;&gt;Business&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;– 24 200 searches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #3d85c6;&quot;&gt;Favorite&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;– 23 000 searches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;color: #333333;&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Restaurant&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;– 22 500 searches.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12.48px;&quot;&gt;------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12.48px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333; font-family: inherit; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Postscript (28 Feb): Another study!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #333333; font-family: inherit; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;Another company&#39;s marketing ploy, but a much better analysis of misspelling (though only for children):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p data-pm-slice=&quot;1 1 [&amp;quot;blockquote&amp;quot;,{}]&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Around 530 million spelling attempts from 936,926 &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/send-reform-children-inclusion-education-policy-white-paper-b2925906.html&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;pupils across the country &lt;/a&gt;were examined by education platform EdShed to draw their results, determining which words schoolchildren find most tricky. (&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/spelling-words-common-misspelling-schools-children-b2928002.html&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Independent&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Their list has only two overlaps with the WordUnscrambler one:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: &amp;quot;Indy Serif&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Indy Serif Fallback&amp;quot;, serif; overflow: hidden;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;font-size: 19px; line-height: 1.44em;&quot;&gt;Sketch&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;font-size: 19px; line-height: 1.44em;&quot;&gt;Mischievous&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;font-size: 19px; line-height: 1.44em;&quot;&gt;February&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;font-size: 19px; line-height: 1.44em;&quot;&gt;Couldn&#39;t&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;font-size: 19px; line-height: 1.44em;&quot;&gt;Mustn&#39;t&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;font-size: 19px; line-height: 1.44em;&quot;&gt;License&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;font-size: 19px; line-height: 1.44em;&quot;&gt;Definitely&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;font-size: 19px; line-height: 1.44em;&quot;&gt;Indefinite&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;font-size: 19px; line-height: 1.44em;&quot;&gt;Convenience&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;font-size: 19px; line-height: 1.44em;&quot;&gt;Preferred&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p data-pm-slice=&quot;1 1 [&amp;quot;blockquote&amp;quot;,{}]&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/9185857835408040228/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2026/02/are-these-words-misspelledmisspelt-most.html#comment-form' title='22 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/9185857835408040228'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/9185857835408040228'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2026/02/are-these-words-misspelledmisspelt-most.html' title='Are these words misspelled/misspelt most?'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0EFhK_8EzbrBQnXiUGYM-bFkQ8fLDCgBLbB3TGmNrJCkfa5KAfPoCBODa5x42KPZ3HGlWVg6naFTdXvPzkSH_vK6rC9itiEjbuBJSR8d_-lPddFUzVxkxXVLKSGKg9SybRnDAmdE02pPud2KWeABq2kHXL9hocCefYWFktv6bt2wqXNzszYhK/s72-w400-h244-c/Screenshot%202026-02-26%20at%2009.46.43.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>22</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-3616437349664503210</id><published>2026-02-04T00:01:00.006+00:00</published><updated>2026-02-04T00:16:46.453+00:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="adjectives"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="more complicated than you might think"/><title type='text'>nostalgia for present-day British English</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;I get various Google Alerts for things related to my interests, and today I got one for a story in &lt;i&gt;The Sun &lt;/i&gt;and the &lt;i&gt;Daily Express&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;about the &#39;20 English words the public wants to revive&#39;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now, if I want to read these articles, I have to pay or give them my first-born, or something like that, so I&#39;m not rushing to read them. But I&#39;ve got enough of a gist from the Google Alert (orig. AmE) &lt;b&gt;blurb&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi15y_yevg0yYDzhThOGe7uwwBob3H_yPBD-1hx-xLCbdEsz5kF92j6pLdM0EIWG_fyUinX66134FmwtSSXV8vxXINOxx0H7G_knc5gx_2oqnBAqNjGUkNNw4QaczDaBGa89m7bMZ4CkqafeAbPom8j40fyACo1Kr9Ogyl1mEC3H3-JSaACpiar/s1394/Screenshot%202026-02-03%20at%2023.17.07.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;&#39;Flabbergasted&#39; among top 20 classic British phrases the public wants to revive | UK | News Daily Express Essential Words of the Year ... Classic British phrases like flabbergasted, chuffed, and gobsmacked are among the time-honoured words the public would ...&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;294&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1394&quot; height=&quot;134&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi15y_yevg0yYDzhThOGe7uwwBob3H_yPBD-1hx-xLCbdEsz5kF92j6pLdM0EIWG_fyUinX66134FmwtSSXV8vxXINOxx0H7G_knc5gx_2oqnBAqNjGUkNNw4QaczDaBGa89m7bMZ4CkqafeAbPom8j40fyACo1Kr9Ogyl1mEC3H3-JSaACpiar/w640-h134/Screenshot%202026-02-03%20at%2023.17.07.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;The &quot;research&quot;, it seems, has been done in the hallowed halls of the Tesco Mobile marketing department, with the celebrity endorsement of Tom Daley and Gyles Brandreth. (There is a video on the various tabloid websites, again, if you want to allow them to put the devil&#39;s cookies in your computer.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;But it&#39;s enough to read that little blurb: &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;flabbergasted&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;chuffed&lt;/i&gt;, and &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;gobsmacked&lt;/i&gt;. The &quot;British public&quot; (Tesco Mobile customers?)&amp;nbsp; wants to &quot;revive&quot; these &quot;classic&quot; words. You know, those moribund words that... wait a minute...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All three of these words seem to be in (BrE) &lt;b&gt;rude health&lt;/b&gt;. Have a look at their use in British books. More and more in the 21st century:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;300&quot; hspace=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; name=&quot;ngram_chart&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; src=&quot;https://books.google.com/ngrams/interactive_chart?content=chuffed&amp;amp;year_start=1800&amp;amp;year_end=2022&amp;amp;corpus=en-GB&amp;amp;smoothing=3&quot; vspace=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;600&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;300&quot; hspace=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; name=&quot;ngram_chart&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; src=&quot;https://books.google.com/ngrams/interactive_chart?content=flabbergasted&amp;amp;year_start=1800&amp;amp;year_end=2022&amp;amp;corpus=en-GB&amp;amp;smoothing=3&quot; vspace=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;600&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;300&quot; hspace=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; name=&quot;ngram_chart&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; src=&quot;https://books.google.com/ngrams/interactive_chart?content=gobsmacked&amp;amp;year_start=1800&amp;amp;year_end=2022&amp;amp;corpus=en-GB&amp;amp;smoothing=3&quot; vspace=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;600&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Calling something that didn&#39;t exist before 1980 a &quot;classic&quot; that needs to be &quot;revived&quot; when in reality, it&#39;s just reaching its prime is blatant ageism, I say. &lt;i&gt;Gobsmacked&lt;/i&gt;, I feel your pain.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;But maybe books are weird. Maybe &quot;real&quot; people don&#39;t use these words. Maybe not, but the tabloid newspapers have certainly been reviving them for the past 30 years. Here&#39;s what you see if you search for these words&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in the archives of &lt;i&gt;The Sun &lt;/i&gt;(courtesy of Nexis):&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhKwaaKg4j5ESwkgLj3NUJAMdnse3pPbD8zXQXSVvI6Nn-ZzJVfL2vV6KNoo1wRKkwfP6MnzSL_AGFy_WxqkjMWIziov-YythjAhoKbLFz9bdQcGyZs11GfYjDQs-X7cLJklS30E_ekA__3rybxuYJvt5LlrKof5GqFBwUdg5L6OTamvCKiRW_1/s1808/Screenshot%202026-02-03%20at%2023.52.49.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1232&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1808&quot; height=&quot;436&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhKwaaKg4j5ESwkgLj3NUJAMdnse3pPbD8zXQXSVvI6Nn-ZzJVfL2vV6KNoo1wRKkwfP6MnzSL_AGFy_WxqkjMWIziov-YythjAhoKbLFz9bdQcGyZs11GfYjDQs-X7cLJklS30E_ekA__3rybxuYJvt5LlrKof5GqFBwUdg5L6OTamvCKiRW_1/w640-h436/Screenshot%202026-02-03%20at%2023.52.49.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Each of those words is used more now than in the 1990s, and each has a peak around 2012. I&#39;m not willing at this moment to dive deep enough into the &lt;i&gt;Sun &lt;/i&gt;archives to fully analy{s/z}e that, but could the Olympics have something to do with that?&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are we the British public really missing these &quot;classic&quot; Britishisms? Or are we just missing feeling good about ourselves?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/3616437349664503210/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2026/02/nostalgia-for-present-british-english.html#comment-form' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3616437349664503210'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3616437349664503210'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2026/02/nostalgia-for-present-british-english.html' title='nostalgia for present-day British English'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi15y_yevg0yYDzhThOGe7uwwBob3H_yPBD-1hx-xLCbdEsz5kF92j6pLdM0EIWG_fyUinX66134FmwtSSXV8vxXINOxx0H7G_knc5gx_2oqnBAqNjGUkNNw4QaczDaBGa89m7bMZ4CkqafeAbPom8j40fyACo1Kr9Ogyl1mEC3H3-JSaACpiar/s72-w640-h134-c/Screenshot%202026-02-03%20at%2023.17.07.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-3786748202189656912</id><published>2025-12-31T19:32:00.003+00:00</published><updated>2026-01-01T21:14:24.411+00:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="alphabet"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="epithets"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="WotY"/><title type='text'>US-to-UK Word of the Year 2025: zee </title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;And t&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #2e3d4c; font-family: inherit; font-size: 14px; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;he 2025&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/search/label/WotY&quot; style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #a50910; font-family: inherit; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: justify; text-decoration-line: none;&quot;&gt;Separated by a Common Language US-to-UK Word of the Year&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); color: #2e3d4c; font-family: inherit; font-size: 14px; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;is (sorta kinda):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); clear: both; hyphens: auto; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Droid Sans&amp;quot;, Arial, &amp;quot;Arial Unicode MS&amp;quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 12px 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000; font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;zee &lt;/i&gt;(but mostly &lt;i&gt;Gen Z&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p dir=&quot;ltr&quot; style=&quot;line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 9pt; margin-top: 9pt; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: 11pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;I must start by assuring you: British people generally do not call the letter &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: 11pt; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;zee&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: 11pt; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: 11pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;Nevertheless, I have reasons for choosing &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: 11pt; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;zee&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: 11pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt; this year:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p dir=&quot;ltr&quot; style=&quot;line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 9pt; margin-top: 9pt; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;It is winning (particularly &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/2011/03/03/amongst/&quot; style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; text-decoration-line: none; white-space: pre;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration-line: underline; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; text-wrap-mode: wrap; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;among[st]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt; the people it describes) as the pronunciation of the generation name: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: 700; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;Gen Z&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;It is a word that comes up when people express worries that British children are &quot;using American words&quot;, that perennial clickbait that baited a particularly large number of clicks this year. It started with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/28787909/3786748202189656912#&quot; style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; text-decoration-line: none; white-space: pre;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-size: 11pt; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration-line: underline; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; text-wrap-mode: wrap; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;The Sunday&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration-line: underline; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; text-wrap-mode: wrap; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-size: 11pt; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration-line: underline; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; text-wrap-mode: wrap; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;Times&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt; commissioning a survey of teachers; the results of that survey were consistently (determinedly) misinterpreted. The &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;Sunday Times &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;article doesn’t mention &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;zee&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;, but it came up often in the interviews I did after it. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;If you&#39;re interested,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://lnns.co/e1Df_9IvCpc&quot; style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; text-decoration-line: none; white-space: pre;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration-line: underline; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; text-wrap-mode: wrap; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt; here&#39;s an episode of Lexis podcast where we talk about the survey (and its problems)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;It was also the Americanisms that the YouGov polling organi{s/z}tion chose &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/51950-zed-or-zee-how-pervasive-are-americanisms-in-britons-use-of-english&quot; style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; text-decoration-line: none; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration-line: underline; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;for the title of its report &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: transparent; font-family: inherit; font-size: 11pt; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;on Americanism use in Britain in April. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdysw89qAknCsTwUSNm4uomK2kXJMwVY4zmQjc1yrflToI5bI46LvPaI1eYOiXK1tj67WZJzNgRNcBOdMy-peiyKf7uoZmBLzj8hFluOtneyLCEbJaLKH7NezxFTtjmwk8pP7o7KulA5zjqTtdEXA0xt4WIkxEBD9gCPbOayTtj5cDTddRk1GD/s2484/Screenshot%202025-12-30%20at%2023.06.52.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;screenshot of YouGov website headline: Zed or Zee? How pervasive are Americanisms in Britons&#39; use of English?&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1458&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2484&quot; height=&quot;376&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdysw89qAknCsTwUSNm4uomK2kXJMwVY4zmQjc1yrflToI5bI46LvPaI1eYOiXK1tj67WZJzNgRNcBOdMy-peiyKf7uoZmBLzj8hFluOtneyLCEbJaLKH7NezxFTtjmwk8pP7o7KulA5zjqTtdEXA0xt4WIkxEBD9gCPbOayTtj5cDTddRk1GD/w640-h376/Screenshot%202025-12-30%20at%2023.06.52.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/51950-zed-or-zee-how-pervasive-are-americanisms-in-britons-use-of-english&quot;&gt;source&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;The results of that poll are informative:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjDzoG7iFQQdSIW2fgcXrMAO3ZlOesu5b7DhinZyEt-Fa4isq1FAsUnQAQYk2iMCMZha87GZGibCZGhNNJLsi4ev0GJZ1_T71G61FxgmdY_zsiLdmfkbJxlK1-Iy0NJrNmoTk5h5pqRDyLaC9hvybxjqNvWEJXZmtHW1xHS46nfHZcJ7mpdUbEn/s2512/Screenshot%202025-12-30%20at%2023.11.33.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;I describe this graph in the text below.&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;618&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2512&quot; height=&quot;158&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjDzoG7iFQQdSIW2fgcXrMAO3ZlOesu5b7DhinZyEt-Fa4isq1FAsUnQAQYk2iMCMZha87GZGibCZGhNNJLsi4ev0GJZ1_T71G61FxgmdY_zsiLdmfkbJxlK1-Iy0NJrNmoTk5h5pqRDyLaC9hvybxjqNvWEJXZmtHW1xHS46nfHZcJ7mpdUbEn/w640-h158/Screenshot%202025-12-30%20at%2023.11.33.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/51950-zed-or-zee-how-pervasive-are-americanisms-in-britons-use-of-english&quot;&gt;source&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Essentially: the majority of Britons under 50 report using&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;zee &lt;/i&gt;in the name &lt;i&gt;Gen Z&lt;/i&gt;, with more than 70% of those under 24 (that is, &lt;i&gt;in&lt;/i&gt; Gen Z) saying it. The majority of Britons over 50 say they say &lt;i&gt;Gen-Zed&lt;/i&gt;. All age groups, however, say that the alphabet letter &#39;Z&#39; rhymes with &lt;i&gt;bed &lt;/i&gt;at rates above 70%.&amp;nbsp;The younger age groups (versus the older) have more people claiming to say the alphabet with an &lt;i&gt;ex-why-zee &lt;/i&gt;at the end, but more people say &lt;i&gt;zed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;for the letter than say &lt;i&gt;zee &lt;/i&gt;for the generation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;That&#39;s self-reported data, and self-reports of linguistic behavio(u)rs require corroboration. We can find that corroboration.&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://youglish.com/pronounce/gen_z/english/uk#google_vignette&quot;&gt;On YouGlish&lt;/a&gt;, you can hear both &lt;i&gt;Gen-Zee &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;Gen-Zed &lt;/i&gt;in British speakers, but it&#39;s mostly &lt;i&gt;Gen-Zee&lt;/i&gt;, particularly among younger speakers. One of the British speakers (&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/@jessicaoutofthecloset&quot;&gt;Jessica Kellgren-Fozard&lt;/a&gt;) says Gen-Zee most of the time, but does say&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Gen-Zed&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;at least once in one of her videos—and it wouldn&#39;t be surprising if many other speakers are inconsistent in this particular &lt;i&gt;zee/zed&lt;/i&gt;. If you search for British people saying &lt;i&gt;zee &lt;/i&gt;on Youglish, you&#39;ll get mentions of people named &lt;i&gt;Zee &lt;/i&gt;and a fair amount of Mock French (&quot;I am zee dev-ille&quot;), but the letter-name is&amp;nbsp;only used in contrast with &lt;i&gt;zed&lt;/i&gt;. (Searching for &lt;i&gt;Z &lt;/i&gt;in YouGlish gets you people saying &lt;i&gt;zzzzzz&lt;/i&gt;, rather than saying the letter name, as far as I&#39;ve seen.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;My daughter &quot;Grover,&quot; has done a little poll of her 17–18-year-old friends, who all say they say&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Gen-Zee&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;(she certainly does). She&amp;nbsp;also notes that if she flaunts her half-Americanness and&amp;nbsp;says a&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;zee&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;for the letter, her English friends give her a very hard time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;But check out &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Generation Z&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;a href=&quot;https://youglish.com/pronounce/generation_z/english/uk&quot;&gt; most of the speakers on YouGlish say this with &lt;i&gt;zed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;(even younger ones). It seems that the more &quot;formal&quot; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparency_(linguistic)&quot;&gt;semantically transparent&lt;/a&gt; version of the word is treated more as if the Z is the letter of the alphabet. &lt;i&gt;Gen Z&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;seems to be treated as something more opaque—a name. (Grover claims &lt;i&gt;Gen Zed &lt;/i&gt;is &quot;hard to say.&quot; It does sound a bit more like it might be a past-tense verb.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;The term&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Generation Z &lt;/i&gt;seems to have originated in 1993, and is not marked as American in dictionaries. &lt;i&gt;Gen Z &lt;/i&gt;followed in 1996, and is listed as &quot;originally N. American&quot; in the&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Oxford English Dictionary. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Against t&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;he evidence we&#39;ve seen here, the OED lists the &lt;i&gt;zed &lt;/i&gt;pronunciation first for BrE:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjEQX6pPn0FNLFnm4E7CA_PJK8_pOVnzo0v_Ba_k9Hg0oE9zS8ajIXnpyw6VUzHTaTxHAyDTiffqOIqII2VGP9uXAwn5Bm4RTv3bkf8K4M6QQjkDrhna_4m-OeNc68iFup5Y1e0m73tIEMn85KBJzL9vP0Kun7cCduiur8saRpfHrcL4ildByaS/s924/Screenshot%202025-12-31%20at%2019.23.29.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;882&quot; data-original-width=&quot;924&quot; height=&quot;305&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjEQX6pPn0FNLFnm4E7CA_PJK8_pOVnzo0v_Ba_k9Hg0oE9zS8ajIXnpyw6VUzHTaTxHAyDTiffqOIqII2VGP9uXAwn5Bm4RTv3bkf8K4M6QQjkDrhna_4m-OeNc68iFup5Y1e0m73tIEMn85KBJzL9vP0Kun7cCduiur8saRpfHrcL4ildByaS/s320/Screenshot%202025-12-31%20at%2019.23.29.png&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;But, in keeping with the YouGlish evidence, they do not include the &lt;i&gt;zee&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;pronunciation for the full form:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjB20GhnHAk3BBLpZMGdixydj-pVuskFGZxUYc0ft6MNRKtiPomLtn2voFP0nVqEz2Kuaj-lJetdelElB_uHvypQfc89MRQNVz54I3D6bKr6TkvxMuLpEknXVI0oveckW179fvfOAz1Kcjue_WshwJ1bNyVpSeQmHpD2IwzUr9fSk_yALDHb9RQ/s1006/Screenshot%202025-12-31%20at%2019.24.51.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;678&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1006&quot; height=&quot;216&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjB20GhnHAk3BBLpZMGdixydj-pVuskFGZxUYc0ft6MNRKtiPomLtn2voFP0nVqEz2Kuaj-lJetdelElB_uHvypQfc89MRQNVz54I3D6bKr6TkvxMuLpEknXVI0oveckW179fvfOAz1Kcjue_WshwJ1bNyVpSeQmHpD2IwzUr9fSk_yALDHb9RQ/s320/Screenshot%202025-12-31%20at%2019.24.51.png&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z#Date_and_age_range_definitions&quot;&gt;&lt;br class=&quot;Apple-interchange-newline&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z#Date_and_age_range_definitions&quot;&gt;Gen Z&lt;/a&gt;, however you pronounce them, were born between 1997 and 2012 (or thereabouts)—so the oldest Gen Zers (or&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Zoomers&lt;/i&gt;, which happens to be&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://zamin.uz/en/world/175071-word-of-the-year-2025-chosen-as-zoomer.html&quot;&gt;the 2025 Russian WotY&lt;/a&gt;) were 28 in 2025, and the youngest ones entered their teens. So, they&#39;ve become increasingly newsworthy and we&#39;re hearing &lt;i&gt;Gen Z &lt;/i&gt;more. Here is how often &lt;i&gt;Gen Z i&lt;/i&gt;s used in the British part of &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/now/&quot;&gt;the News on the Web corpus&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEim7gm05FVAu4lENnBWFQfaMI7dF16RdVZ1_rHAly46apXUj4I198isqcOOTXrchl31Q0IUyM6ZaB70aJibpzkA3VUDrYhWRZM09Y-C0OrzN_Xn80z1jS-FnrZzpR5wAMngle54YRPmbmMjJvf7c7M-D_MaTKwyA6T1vWRz8CnWI1OyF8tWPsqi/s2140/Screenshot%202025-12-31%20at%2018.17.18.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;714&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2140&quot; height=&quot;214&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEim7gm05FVAu4lENnBWFQfaMI7dF16RdVZ1_rHAly46apXUj4I198isqcOOTXrchl31Q0IUyM6ZaB70aJibpzkA3VUDrYhWRZM09Y-C0OrzN_Xn80z1jS-FnrZzpR5wAMngle54YRPmbmMjJvf7c7M-D_MaTKwyA6T1vWRz8CnWI1OyF8tWPsqi/w640-h214/Screenshot%202025-12-31%20at%2018.17.18.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Those mentions will probably continue to go up as more of the group reaches adulthood. &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.gov.uk/government/news/16-year-olds-to-be-given-right-to-vote-through-seismic-government-election-reforms&quot;&gt;And some of them will be reaching voting age sooner than that&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;(Happy Birthday, Grover!)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Related posts:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2011/12/zee-and-zed.html&quot;&gt;Zee and Zed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2009/11/sesame-street.html&quot;&gt;Sesame Street&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2011/07/anti-americanismism-part-2.html&quot;&gt;Anti-Americanismism, Part 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2008/07/zebra.html&quot;&gt;Zebra&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2008/01/baby-talk-introducing-grover.html&quot;&gt;Introducing Grover&lt;/a&gt;:&amp;nbsp;Can you believe that she is 18?! She&#39;s gone from minor to major.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/3786748202189656912/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/12/us-to-uk-word-of-year-2025-zee.html#comment-form' title='24 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3786748202189656912'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3786748202189656912'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/12/us-to-uk-word-of-year-2025-zee.html' title='US-to-UK Word of the Year 2025: zee '/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdysw89qAknCsTwUSNm4uomK2kXJMwVY4zmQjc1yrflToI5bI46LvPaI1eYOiXK1tj67WZJzNgRNcBOdMy-peiyKf7uoZmBLzj8hFluOtneyLCEbJaLKH7NezxFTtjmwk8pP7o7KulA5zjqTtdEXA0xt4WIkxEBD9gCPbOayTtj5cDTddRk1GD/s72-w640-h376-c/Screenshot%202025-12-30%20at%2023.06.52.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>24</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-2786286886858259708</id><published>2025-12-30T22:19:00.016+00:00</published><updated>2025-12-31T01:09:09.717+00:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="adjectives"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="WotY"/><title type='text'>UK-to-US Word of the Year 2025: fiddly</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); font-size: 14px; margin: 12px 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The 2025&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/search/label/WotY&quot;&gt;Separated by a Common Language UK-to-US Word of the Year &lt;/a&gt;is:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9); font-family: &amp;quot;Droid Sans&amp;quot;, Arial, &amp;quot;Arial Unicode MS&amp;quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 12px 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000; font-size: large;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;fiddly&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;float: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4frwcG4H77jNTXuzZVf4GgET99E1HPzGlfSxpPeo3TwraJP8ac4wC8IMhcX8DfVbZLDQ4lchDvL0vNZN79KAeftgbSrdT2SLFA-P7LvWidHIE5aqXcjdmwbqNBa7JKaft_YQKHluiNkglJ78gaX1qHmEyhWLLHSbhDPfTSN18ujJzRhpo2ebN/s714/Screenshot%202025-12-30%20at%2000.35.57.png&quot; style=&quot;clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;A still from a youtube video with the word fiddly above a bearded man in front of a background of cogs and gears&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;496&quot; data-original-width=&quot;714&quot; height=&quot;139&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4frwcG4H77jNTXuzZVf4GgET99E1HPzGlfSxpPeo3TwraJP8ac4wC8IMhcX8DfVbZLDQ4lchDvL0vNZN79KAeftgbSrdT2SLFA-P7LvWidHIE5aqXcjdmwbqNBa7JKaft_YQKHluiNkglJ78gaX1qHmEyhWLLHSbhDPfTSN18ujJzRhpo2ebN/w200-h139/Screenshot%202025-12-30%20at%2000.35.57.png&quot; width=&quot;200&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9xNl_jdb3I&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Here&#39;s an English teacher &lt;br /&gt;explaining the word&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Someone might have recommended this to me this year—if so, please out yourself in the comments, since I cannot find a pixel trail for a recommender. But I did find it in an email conversation I had with Ben Yagoda in deciding the 2022 WotY, where he said:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Interesting slate of UK to US candidates, especially “soccer.” Didn’t realize about shrinkflation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fff2cc;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;il&quot;&gt;Fiddly&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;definitely&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both;&quot;&gt;Why did I wait till this year to crown &lt;i&gt;fiddly&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;SbaCL WotY?&amp;nbsp; Well, in 2022,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2023/01/uk-to-us-word-of-year-2022-fit.html&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;fit&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;was having a moment due to&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Love Island&lt;/i&gt;, so I put&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;fiddly&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;aside. Now&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;fiddly&lt;/i&gt;&#39;s time has come. Just look at it going up in the US part of the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/now/&quot;&gt;News on the Web corpus&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-XRlK6u9cdd9iyF3b-A5NvHkg3-w7ol06g8TycNWcU9fQ6hPkq26afkUaVcRNfxgrrZkiHWGRKUPA-K44zFIsraJPYQtGs10LgtpxWpK9qcMmcwUGXsnoDOfgZ7D0q2rE-nwHgWj-lg1VUbIkXB5trqW64aD-Sa9Ndbm8pU-3chMpP_ms9yZO/s2146/Screenshot%202025-12-29%20at%2023.38.33.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;NOW corpus bar chart for fiddly in US news only. There&#39;s a peak in 2024 with .24 occurrences per million, but then it goes down into the decimal-point-teens for the next 9 years. Up to .20 in 2024, then a high point .29 in 2025&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;706&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2146&quot; height=&quot;210&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-XRlK6u9cdd9iyF3b-A5NvHkg3-w7ol06g8TycNWcU9fQ6hPkq26afkUaVcRNfxgrrZkiHWGRKUPA-K44zFIsraJPYQtGs10LgtpxWpK9qcMmcwUGXsnoDOfgZ7D0q2rE-nwHgWj-lg1VUbIkXB5trqW64aD-Sa9Ndbm8pU-3chMpP_ms9yZO/w640-h210/Screenshot%202025-12-29%20at%2023.38.33.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/2016/06/01/fiddly-fiddly-bits/&quot;&gt;Ben Yagoda first wrote about it as a Britishism in the US in 2016&lt;/a&gt;, after its first peak; then the shine went off it for a few years. Now it&#39;s back.&amp;nbsp; Here are the most recent ten US citations from the NOW corpus:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJbJpbo7GidTQrnmHUTWuK5Dq-EyYARiZaoyifIfVZ1gILB8e9qDDWUoA2qiLg5vvkVDKmnoyL2ivlhSnOtaTGI1AJjB3KVVcGy9eqhQio7uh654KhUo1_y7vZONAh6xQDJ4NZtiYp6UJyQS_EJLFyP1RTRRONx5yw2CMwj7MBK6ChksLZdZ-z/s2148/Screenshot%202025-12-30%20at%2000.02.11.png&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;45	25-12-05 US	macrumors.com				  time, it was left in the hotel room because it&#39;s too big and fiddly. # Plus the phone has the instant gratification factor. The family pretty much 46	25-12-09 US	pressherald.com				  patterns. For starters, more than one-third of the items I&#39;d attempted required fiddly stuffing and/or rolling: spring rolls, jelly roll cake, onigiri, stuffed grape 47	25-12-11 US	geeky-gadgets.com				  Pro was a point of contention for many users; it was often described as fiddly and difficult to clean. The Galaxy Buds 4 Pro will revert to the &amp;quot; 48	25-12-13 US	slate.com				  This is not a game, &amp;quot; Jud shouts at Blanc, &amp;quot; not some fiddly mystery with devices and clues &amp;quot; -- a very apt characterization of locked-room puzzles. 49	25-12-14 US	wired.com				  flaps reduce spray, so anyone behind you doesn&#39;t suffer. Installation can be fiddly, and it took me at least an hour, so if bike maintenance is 50	25-12-17 US	kotaku.com				  from the console&#39;s mouse controls, which will make placing decor a bit less fiddly. And that makes sense, paired with a content update that&#39;s largely centered 51	25-12-20 US	slate.com				  # Advertisement Rebel Against Royal Icing # Contemporary Christmas cookie recipes are rife with fiddly frostings and icings, and it&#39;s true that these are what make decorative varieties 52	25-12-22 US	androidauthority.com				  needed. In practice, that should make Eden feel a bit cleaner and less fiddly, especially on lower-end or storage-constrained devices. # This update also expands the scope 53	25-12-26 US	slashgear.com				  occupant protection. # It got the next-best grade of&#39; acceptable&#39; for a fiddly LATCH infant seat system and a minor concern about rear passenger restraints, and the 54	25-12-26 US	vogue.com				  ottoman couches as you&#39;re breezed through check-in. There&#39;s no reception, or fiddly paperwork. Instead, it feels just like you&#39;re visiting the holiday residence of&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;470&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2148&quot; height=&quot;140&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJbJpbo7GidTQrnmHUTWuK5Dq-EyYARiZaoyifIfVZ1gILB8e9qDDWUoA2qiLg5vvkVDKmnoyL2ivlhSnOtaTGI1AJjB3KVVcGy9eqhQio7uh654KhUo1_y7vZONAh6xQDJ4NZtiYp6UJyQS_EJLFyP1RTRRONx5yw2CMwj7MBK6ChksLZdZ-z/w640-h140/Screenshot%202025-12-30%20at%2000.02.11.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Many things and activities here are fiddly: some kind of electronic device, rolling and stuffing a baked good, cleaning ear buds, a fictional mystery story, installing something on a bike, actions in video games, &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2009/12/icing-and-frosting.html&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;frostings&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;icings&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; on Christmas &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2008/01/2007s-words-of-year.html&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;cookies&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, using an infant car seat, paperwork. It looks like it&#39;s being used just as it&#39;s used in BrE.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;And if you haven&#39;t yet figured out what it means,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fiddly&quot;&gt;Merriam-Webster&#39;s definition &lt;/a&gt;goes like this:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;row entry-header&quot; style=&quot;--bs-gutter-x: 1.5rem; --bs-gutter-y: 0; background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #0a1b27; display: flex; flex-wrap: wrap; font-family: &amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 19px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 5px -12px 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;col-12&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; flex: 0 0 auto; font: inherit; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; padding: 0px 12px; vertical-align: initial; width: 815.654px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;entry-header-content d-flex flex-wrap align-items-baseline flex-row mb-0&quot; style=&quot;align-items: baseline; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-flow: wrap; font: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 2px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;h1 class=&quot;hword&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; flex: initial; font-family: &amp;quot;Playfair Display&amp;quot;, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 49px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: 65px; margin: 0px 10px 0px 0px; order: 0; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;row entry-header&quot; style=&quot;--bs-gutter-x: 1.5rem; --bs-gutter-y: 0; background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #0a1b27; display: flex; flex-wrap: wrap; font-family: &amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 19px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 5px -12px 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;col-12&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; flex: 0 0 auto; font: inherit; margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; padding: 0px 12px; vertical-align: initial; width: 815.654px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;entry-header-content d-flex flex-wrap align-items-baseline flex-row mb-0&quot; style=&quot;align-items: baseline; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-flow: wrap; font: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 2px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;h1 class=&quot;hword&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; flex: initial; font-family: &amp;quot;Playfair Display&amp;quot;, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 49px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: 65px; margin: 0px 10px 0px 0px; order: 0; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;fiddly&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;h2 class=&quot;parts-of-speech&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #4a7d95; font-family: &amp;quot;Playfair Display&amp;quot;, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 31px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: 43px; margin: 0px 0px 0.5rem; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;important-blue-link&quot; href=&quot;https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/adjective&quot; style=&quot;-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #4a7d95; display: inline; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: 43px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;adjective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;row entry-attr mb-3 mt-2&quot; style=&quot;--bs-gutter-x: 1.5rem; --bs-gutter-y: 0; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #225f73; display: flex; flex-wrap: wrap; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: 28px; margin-bottom: 8px !important; margin-left: -12px; margin-right: -12px; margin-top: 4px !important; margin: 4px -12px 8px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;col word-syllables-prons-header-content flex-wrap&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #757575; flex-wrap: wrap; flex: 1 0 0%; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; gap: 3px; line-height: 25px; margin: 0px 10px 0px 0px; max-width: 100%; padding: 0px 12px; vertical-align: initial; width: 805.654px;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;word-syllables-entry&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-block; font: inherit; margin: 5px 10px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;fid·​dly&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;prons-entries-list-inline mb-1&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin-bottom: 2px !important; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 2px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;play-pron-v2 text-decoration-none prons-entry-list-item d-inline-block badge mw-badge-gray-300&quot; data-dir=&quot;f&quot; data-file=&quot;fiddly01&quot; data-lang=&quot;en_us&quot; data-url=&quot;https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fiddly?pronunciation&amp;amp;lang=en_us&amp;amp;dir=f&amp;amp;file=fiddly01&quot; href=&quot;https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fiddly?pronunciation&amp;amp;lang=en_us&amp;amp;dir=f&amp;amp;file=fiddly01&quot; style=&quot;-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border-radius: 100px; border: 1px solid rgb(151, 190, 206); box-sizing: border-box; color: #0061f2; display: inline; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: 28px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px 10px 1px 12px; text-align: center; text-decoration-line: none; text-wrap-mode: nowrap; vertical-align: initial;&quot; title=&quot;How to pronounce fiddly (audio)&quot;&gt;ˈfi-dᵊl-ē&amp;nbsp;&lt;svg class=&quot;svg replaced-svg&quot; data-inject-url=&quot;https://www.merriam-webster.com/dist-cross-dungarees/2025-12-17--20-05-47-dv1zk/images/svg/audio-pron-redesign.svg&quot; fill=&quot;none&quot; height=&quot;13&quot; viewbox=&quot;0 0 15 13&quot; width=&quot;15&quot; xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2000/svg&quot;&gt;&lt;path clip-rule=&quot;evenodd&quot; d=&quot;M13.513 6.34363C13.513 4.21463 12.623 2.33405 10.7864 0.687267L11.4026 0C13.406 1.79629 14.436 3.91633 14.436 6.34363C14.436 8.77387 13.3787 10.9297 11.3318 12.7981L10.7095 12.1163C12.6005 10.3902 13.513 8.4697 13.513 6.34363ZM10.8305 6.33811C10.8305 5.19038 10.2301 3.91597 8.89573 2.50719L9.5659 1.87241C10.9804 3.36579 11.7536 4.85692 11.7536 6.33811C11.7536 8.50095 10.6077 9.83479 9.56034 10.9028L8.90129 10.2565C9.91606 9.22174 10.8305 8.11681 10.8305 6.33811ZM0 8.6107V4.0387H3.23077L6.46154 1.75408V10.959L3.11169 8.6107H0Z&quot; fill-rule=&quot;evenodd&quot; fill=&quot;#4A7D95&quot;&gt;&lt;/path&gt;&lt;/svg&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;ul-must-login-def&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #0a1b27; font-family: &amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 19px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;div id=&quot;save-word-login-html&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;vg&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #0a1b27; font-family: &amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 19px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 4px 0px 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;sls&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;sl badge mw-badge-gray-100 text-start text-wrap d-inline&quot; style=&quot;background: rgb(244, 244, 244); border-radius: 3px; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #525a5b; display: inline; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 16px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: 700; line-height: 26px; margin: 0px; padding: 0.125em 0.3125em; text-align: center; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;chiefly British&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;vg-sseq-entry-item&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; font: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 5px; padding: 0px 0px 8px; position: relative; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;sb no-sn ms-lg-4 ms-3 w-100&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial; width: 781.67px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;sb-0 sb-entry&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 8px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;sense no-subnum&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-wrap: wrap; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;sense-content w-100&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial; width: 781.67px;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;dt hasSdSense&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;dtText&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;mw_t_bc&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: bolder; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;requiring close attention to detail&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;mw_t_bc&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: bolder; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;mw_t_sx&quot; href=&quot;https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fussy&quot; style=&quot;-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #0061f2; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: 700; line-height: 28px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-transform: uppercase; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;text-uppercase&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;fussy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;sdsense&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 8px 0px 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;sd&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;especially&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;dtText&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;mw_t_bc&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: bolder; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;requiring an annoying amount of close attention&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;sub-content-thread mb-3&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin-bottom: 8px !important; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 4px; margin: 4px 0px 8px; padding: 0px; position: relative; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;ex-sent first-child has-aq sents&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #8a8d91; display: block; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 12px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;… the tiny control buttons on the back are&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;mw_t_wi&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;fiddly&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;ex-sent aq has-aq sents&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #8a8d91; display: block; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 18px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: 27px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 12px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;aq&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: 27px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;auth&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 19px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: 28px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;me-2 mw-mdash-gold&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 4px !important; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px 4px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;mdash mdash-silent&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-block; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 0px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; height: 0px; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: initial;&quot;&gt;—&lt;/span&gt;&lt;svg class=&quot;svg replaced-svg&quot; data-inject-url=&quot;https://www.merriam-webster.com/dist-cross-dungarees/2025-12-17--20-05-47-dv1zk/images/svg/mdash-gold.svg&quot; fill=&quot;none&quot; height=&quot;4&quot; viewbox=&quot;0 0 9 4&quot; width=&quot;9&quot; xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2000/svg&quot;&gt;&lt;rect fill=&quot;url(#paint0_linear_3336_26632)&quot; height=&quot;2&quot; rx=&quot;1&quot; width=&quot;9&quot; y=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;/rect&gt;&lt;defs&gt;&lt;lineargradient gradientunits=&quot;userSpaceOnUse&quot; id=&quot;paint0_linear_3336_26632&quot; x1=&quot;0&quot; x2=&quot;9&quot; y1=&quot;2&quot; y2=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;/lineargradient&gt;&lt;/defs&gt;&lt;/svg&gt;&lt;/span&gt;M. J. McNamara&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;As a &lt;i&gt;-y&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;adjective, it&#39;s a little odd, since &lt;i&gt;-y &lt;/i&gt;is usually added to nouns. &lt;i&gt;Fiddly&lt;/i&gt; derives (according to the OED) from the verb &lt;i&gt;fidd&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;le &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&#39;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb;&quot;&gt;To make aimless or frivolous movements&#39; (OED&lt;/span&gt;), &lt;/span&gt;not the noun. That verb does ultimately come from the noun &lt;i&gt;fiddle&lt;/i&gt;, but that&#39;s not what&#39;s relevant to a suffix that usually attaches to nouns. The suffix wants something that&#39;s a noun now, as in &lt;i&gt;cinnamon-y &lt;/i&gt;or &lt;i&gt;snowy&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; But the OED tells us of &lt;i&gt;-y &lt;/i&gt;adjectives:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;Later new derivatives tend in a large measure to be colloquial, undignified, or trivial,as&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;bumpy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;dumpy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;flighty&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;hammy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;liney&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;loopy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;lumpy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;ungy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;messy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;oniony&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;treey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;verminy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;vipery&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fff2cc;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;some are from verbs, as&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cited-form&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;dangly&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fiddly&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;only came into being in the early 20th century, the period of &quot;colloquial, undignified, or trivial&quot; &lt;i&gt;-y &lt;/i&gt;adjectives. And indeed the OED marks &lt;i&gt;fiddly &lt;/i&gt;as &quot;colloquial&quot;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#39;ll be happy to have it in AmE, as it is undeniably useful. The &lt;i&gt;Collins &lt;/i&gt;thesaurus offers some synonyms:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;pernickety&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;(=AmE &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;persnickety&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;), &lt;i&gt;tricky, detailed, fine, exacting&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think &lt;i&gt;tricky &lt;/i&gt;would work best for some of the things I call &lt;i&gt;fiddly&lt;/i&gt;, but &lt;i&gt;tricky&lt;/i&gt; seems to connote a challenge, rather than a hassle.&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Fiddly&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is all hassle, dexterity, and attention to detail.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Congratulations,&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;fiddly&lt;/i&gt;. You&#39;ve made it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/2786286886858259708/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/12/uk-to-us-word-of-year-2025-fiddly.html#comment-form' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/2786286886858259708'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/2786286886858259708'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/12/uk-to-us-word-of-year-2025-fiddly.html' title='UK-to-US Word of the Year 2025: fiddly'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4frwcG4H77jNTXuzZVf4GgET99E1HPzGlfSxpPeo3TwraJP8ac4wC8IMhcX8DfVbZLDQ4lchDvL0vNZN79KAeftgbSrdT2SLFA-P7LvWidHIE5aqXcjdmwbqNBa7JKaft_YQKHluiNkglJ78gaX1qHmEyhWLLHSbhDPfTSN18ujJzRhpo2ebN/s72-w200-h139-c/Screenshot%202025-12-30%20at%2000.35.57.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-4024548495288529415</id><published>2025-11-23T18:16:00.015+00:00</published><updated>2025-11-29T22:51:38.120+00:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="crime/punishment"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="law"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="morphology"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="past tense"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="verbs"/><title type='text'>pleaded and pled</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;I may have promised another topic for this month&#39;s blog...but another request has (orig. AmE) &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;come&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/over_the_transom&quot;&gt;over the transom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, and I&#39;m easily distractable, so...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mike C from Shropshire asks:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #222222;&quot;&gt;Even most BBC news reporters seem to be using “pled” as the past tense / past participle. …&amp;nbsp; Any thoughts?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;Thoughts? Do I have thoughts? I am plagued by them!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Pleading and plea-ing&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let&#39;s start with a basic observation of &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;pled&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;versus &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;pleaded&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;: the use of &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;pled&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;is &lt;strike&gt;fairly particular to&lt;/strike&gt;&amp;nbsp;much more common in legal pleas. One can have &lt;i&gt;pled guilty, innocent, &lt;/i&gt;(AmE)&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolo_contendere&quot;&gt;no contest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, or (AmE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/87224/whats-the-equivalent-phrase-in-the-uk-for-i-plead-the-fifth&quot;&gt;the fifth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, though many sources would tell you to use &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;pleaded&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;instead. So we get:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;He pled guilty&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;= real but prescriptively frowned-upon&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;She pleaded guilty = &lt;/i&gt;real &amp;amp; prescriptively cherished&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;He pleaded for their forgiveness &lt;/i&gt;= real &amp;amp; common&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;?? She pled for their forgiveness.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;= &lt;strike&gt;unnatural-sounding&lt;/strike&gt;&amp;nbsp;much less common overall (except maybe for Scottish English speakers? See below and comments) and prescriptively frowned-upon&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As you can see in the Corpus of Historical American English, it&#39;s rare to have&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;pled for &lt;/i&gt;anything, but things can be &lt;i&gt;pleaded for&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6mf49U-SAu6CBfcEQGR8tsPTqdzBTmsI3HKBvS4TlM0u4czpxt-AR6JeK55ze6MfuML_6mtKTYJ1Fe_ftVvDaP1trIHQ2jV4Qt0aoZcynQkAQUVeoFOqybS3GlwSaBBFMYj3wkH4R2nZjk6o-uUA77cQP4Aom5ZLyHl095OwYSxBMFuk3nSuS/s2152/Screenshot%202025-11-21%20at%2022.30.58.png&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;510&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2152&quot; height=&quot;152&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6mf49U-SAu6CBfcEQGR8tsPTqdzBTmsI3HKBvS4TlM0u4czpxt-AR6JeK55ze6MfuML_6mtKTYJ1Fe_ftVvDaP1trIHQ2jV4Qt0aoZcynQkAQUVeoFOqybS3GlwSaBBFMYj3wkH4R2nZjk6o-uUA77cQP4Aom5ZLyHl095OwYSxBMFuk3nSuS/w640-h152/Screenshot%202025-11-21%20at%2022.30.58.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Because of this,&amp;nbsp; I&#39;m going to focus my corpus searches on use of &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;pleaded/pled guilty&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The British history of&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;pled&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since this is&amp;nbsp;Separated by a Common Language, we have to ask: is this an Americanism coming into British English? And the answer is: &lt;i&gt;Wait a minute!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Oxford English Dictionary &lt;/i&gt;labels &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;pled&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&quot;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; face=&quot;&amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;(chiefly&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; color=&quot;inherit&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;Scottish&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; color=&quot;inherit&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;U.S.&lt;/span&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&quot; There&#39;s lots of evidence of &lt;i&gt;pled&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in BrE before it could reasonably be thought of as an imported Americanism—it goes back to the 1600s. In &lt;i&gt;Hansard&lt;/i&gt;, the parliamentary record, it&#39;s found here and there since the late 19th century:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhnCrUc0NpRwnSmkI8a6J-gJcIKPNewAs9V2vhgEzyIbEBDBEdHS5DIfMzaUqQnJwM-uYRZmjSgHG4e3wqGFyyADf2B34OteYhkSdT8aWrDUJXhYMLfbDQPT1Yg3oVm5Q91MEJbk4aaKPBoFeUr4pPNTwpxCcik6x-vCJeIjrqkEfMYAXck2NlD/s2098/Screenshot%202025-11-21%20at%2022.35.06.png&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;712&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2098&quot; height=&quot;218&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhnCrUc0NpRwnSmkI8a6J-gJcIKPNewAs9V2vhgEzyIbEBDBEdHS5DIfMzaUqQnJwM-uYRZmjSgHG4e3wqGFyyADf2B34OteYhkSdT8aWrDUJXhYMLfbDQPT1Yg3oVm5Q91MEJbk4aaKPBoFeUr4pPNTwpxCcik6x-vCJeIjrqkEfMYAXck2NlD/w640-h218/Screenshot%202025-11-21%20at%2022.35.06.png&quot; title=&quot;graph shows between 1 and 5 uses of pled guilty in Hansard in most decades since 1880&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;pled guilty &lt;/i&gt;in &lt;i&gt;Hansard&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p&gt;I haven&#39;t checked every example, but in the 1890s and 1990s all of the &lt;i&gt;pled guilty&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;examples are from Scottish Members of Parliament:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEge9P6-hKY3BS7n72bl9PfiyzxiNCx9qiwPmlx6QJyH5La5f7Me2b0btKcBs9GeW450fEy_O7n_S0ypBAkqBoQNtog6Y0o0J6duCjq6lhbTTeHdKPAs8_lAwWHlcA6EM2CtBfNVd92oKZdD2BB3oxJw7cRUmmkW2RhYwrrMSFeZo4uEiVMab8ry/s949/Screenshot%202025-11-23%20at%2016.24.50.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;1	C-1891	Lyell (C)				  be a man with no control over his temper: On the last occasion he pled guilty to assaulting a woman, and was fined 15s:, but 146 that did 2	C-1891	Lyell (C)				  146 that did not seem to have any effect upon him, as he now pled guilty to assaulting a lame man: He appeared to go about assaulting people without 3	C-1899	Cameron (C)				  charges of embezzling various sums amounting to £ 50,000, to which James Colquhoun pled guilty, and 241 with respect to which, on the 4th inst:, he 4	C-1899	Murray (C)				  of the question, it is the fact that the charges to which James Colquhoun pled guilty covered so substantially the case of alleged embezzlement that Crown counsel felt justified in 5	C-1899	Murray (C)				  the practice of the administration of the Criminal Law in Scotland where a prisoner had pled guilty to embezzlement of a sum so substantial as that in question, to re-try&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;152&quot; data-original-width=&quot;949&quot; height=&quot;102&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEge9P6-hKY3BS7n72bl9PfiyzxiNCx9qiwPmlx6QJyH5La5f7Me2b0btKcBs9GeW450fEy_O7n_S0ypBAkqBoQNtog6Y0o0J6duCjq6lhbTTeHdKPAs8_lAwWHlcA6EM2CtBfNVd92oKZdD2BB3oxJw7cRUmmkW2RhYwrrMSFeZo4uEiVMab8ry/w640-h102/Screenshot%202025-11-23%20at%2016.24.50.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The 1990s examples are all quoting or paraphrasing&lt;span style=&quot;color: navy;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1995/46/part/VII/crossheading/plea-of-guilty&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: navy;&quot;&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; Since it&#39;s in the law in Scotland, it should probably be considered fairly standard there.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, &lt;i&gt;pled &lt;/i&gt;is a form with a long history in one part of the UK, at least. With the BBC diversifying its on-screen workforce in recent decades, there may be a rise in south-of-the-border exposure to that particular form of the verb. (I&#39;ve talked about &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/10/outwith-and-diet-scottish-factor.html&quot;&gt;Scottish bureaucratese moving south&lt;/a&gt; in at least one other post.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;b&gt;The American history of&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;pled&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;So &lt;i&gt;pled&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;might come to the US with &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Americans&quot;&gt;Scottish immigrants&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; But.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;In AmE &lt;i&gt;pled &lt;/i&gt;really gets going in the late 20th century. The biggest waves of Scottish migration to the US had happened (as far as I can find out) in the late colonial period (when they would have accounted for a much larger proportion of the English-speakers in the US, and therefore might have had a greater effect on American English, than later immigrants would). It&#39;s possible that it was very common in speech in earlier times and had to become &quot;respectable&quot; before making it into writing much (as is thought to have happened for &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2020/01/2019-us-to-uk-word-of-year-gotten.html&quot;&gt;gotten&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; font-family: inherit; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiBehsepF2lKrFeQzsAU9oAJxudm6xq7F16fgBIUvPtRiP9I8aRdh_bjmTqSxxkAIjwzcDfa5HZD-gci7i15Gr85bknYgK4aI_VNSaf6mwHskdgn3V-PwEF1R_bIXbf1MWw2aef2uBpZboMxk6w3LzSS3ejQyloUIOtI1D48QvUdqG76Bz0-ZHA/s2172/Screenshot%202025-11-21%20at%2022.31.33.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;532&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2172&quot; height=&quot;156&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiBehsepF2lKrFeQzsAU9oAJxudm6xq7F16fgBIUvPtRiP9I8aRdh_bjmTqSxxkAIjwzcDfa5HZD-gci7i15Gr85bknYgK4aI_VNSaf6mwHskdgn3V-PwEF1R_bIXbf1MWw2aef2uBpZboMxk6w3LzSS3ejQyloUIOtI1D48QvUdqG76Bz0-ZHA/w640-h156/Screenshot%202025-11-21%20at%2022.31.33.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;On the other hand, it&#39;s very possible that &lt;i&gt;pled&lt;/i&gt; was re-invented in the US,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogical_change&quot;&gt;on analogy with&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;lead-led&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;read-read&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;[&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;rɛd]. Certainly, the similarity between &lt;i&gt;pled&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;and these &quot;legit&quot; past forms&amp;nbsp;paves the way for implicit acceptance of &lt;i&gt;pled&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;At any rate, the number of &lt;i&gt;pled guilty&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;remains a smaller number than &lt;i&gt;pleaded guilty&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Corpus of Historical American English. But this corpus is mostly written English, much of it edited. I&#39;d expect that there&#39;s more &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;pled &lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;in speech. That&#39;s harder to get one&#39;s hands on.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Pled guilty&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in speech&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I had a look at the Open American Corpus (Spoken) from the early 2000s and there was just one example of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;pleaded&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;pled&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;each. Spoken corpora just tend to be so much smaller, and so they&#39;re not great for tracking vocabulary. And, of course, there are no audio recordings of way-back-when.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;(Note that the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Hansard&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Corpus above is of transcribed speech—we have to assume it&#39;s a pretty good fascimile of the speech.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;The &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sketchengine.eu/opensubtitles-parallel-corpora/?highlight=corpus-aided%20language%20learning&quot;&gt;Open Subtitles 2018 (English) corpus&lt;/a&gt; (which I&#39;ve accessed via &lt;a href=&quot;https://app.sketchengine.eu/&quot;&gt;Sketch Engine&lt;/a&gt;) contains scripted (&lt;b&gt;film/movie&lt;/b&gt;) speech. That&#39;s not the same as natural speech, but the people writing the speech have every motivation to make it &lt;i&gt;sound &lt;/i&gt;natural. What&#39;s interesting there is the turnaround of &lt;i&gt;pled&lt;/i&gt;&#39;s fortunes:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;font-family: inherit; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;pled guilty&lt;/i&gt;:&amp;nbsp; 356&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;pleaded guilty&lt;/i&gt;: 295&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;I can look at these in films shot in the UK versus shot in the USA.&amp;nbsp; Because there&#39;s probably more AmE than BrE in the raw numbers above, when we compare by country, we need to &#39;normali{s/z}e&#39; the numbers. So here, they&#39;re expressed as &#39;occurrences per million words&#39; of the corpus:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;
  

&lt;table&gt;
  &lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;UK&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;USA&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;pleaded guilty&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;.02&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;.02&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;pled guilty&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;—&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;.07&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;




While &lt;i&gt;pled guilty&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is not found at all in the UK films, the lower numbers overall in UK films probably tells us that there are a lot more films about crime and legal proceedings in the American dataset.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Is &lt;i&gt;pled&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in UK English a case of &quot;Americani{s/z}ation&quot;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;It&#39;s hard to say if BBC use of &lt;i&gt;pled &lt;/i&gt;is Scottish voices, Scottish usage spreading or American usage borrowed. I&#39;m going to vote for &quot;probably all of the above&quot;. The prevalence of US courtrooms in media has led to The Law Society pointing out American things that show up in UK legal dramas: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/Blogs/No-gavels-please-were-british&quot;&gt;No gavels please, we&#39;re British.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;At the same time, the evidence we have says that&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;pleaded&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;still outstrips&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;pled&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in BrE by a long mile. Here&#39;s more from the up-to-yesterday &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/now/&quot;&gt;News on the Web &lt;/a&gt;corpus, where &lt;i&gt;pleaded guilty&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;outnumbers &lt;i&gt;pled guilty&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;nearly 40-fold.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjuLKxh4319_jxh2VcmfJEHJ7K1l2qcmd3ue21kfco6tJL5ir6JMiP5H1sUEy-Z7flAHgDwh2k3KYaXc8wRw1O-1g0WsA3quOOdJA5qw47gX80fNw-w5lRHl2BGgytGrVcuouuTXcn02UFrP99ktKEplm4G-tgTvbyLNJnRGsFa6NKswHNxzxo/s833/Screenshot%202025-11-24%20at%2013.04.57.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;264&quot; data-original-width=&quot;833&quot; height=&quot;202&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjuLKxh4319_jxh2VcmfJEHJ7K1l2qcmd3ue21kfco6tJL5ir6JMiP5H1sUEy-Z7flAHgDwh2k3KYaXc8wRw1O-1g0WsA3quOOdJA5qw47gX80fNw-w5lRHl2BGgytGrVcuouuTXcn02UFrP99ktKEplm4G-tgTvbyLNJnRGsFa6NKswHNxzxo/w640-h202/Screenshot%202025-11-24%20at%2013.04.57.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;How many of those are Scottish? Well, quite a few, but it would be a lot of work to sort out both &#39;is this in a Scottish news site&#39; and &#39;if it&#39;s not on a Scottish news site, is it talking about something or quoting someone Scottish?&#39;.&amp;nbsp; But I did take a sample of 100 and did a quick (more BrE) &lt;b&gt;reckoning&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;of what was what:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;53 were from Scotland&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;30 were from either English local news or UK national news&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;10 were clearly North American stories in national news—so probably from wire services&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;1 Northern Irish&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;1 Wales&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;5 ?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;I&#39;d take the 30 English/UK national with a &lt;b&gt;grain/pinch&lt;/b&gt; of salt because I didn&#39;t check whether they were about Scottish legal cases.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Is &lt;i&gt;pled &lt;/i&gt;going up in the UK part of the news corpus: yes, but so is &lt;i&gt;pleaded guilty&lt;/i&gt;—so it looks like there are just more legal cases in the news&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0FD9AQ-pHs8NoyXKoFlG_23APfffxLWrpYh4CxiqaT8tMUKp4AkqBaAS2hLXul9ftzCWfbnKZLxW4KKaiiQG-OrSAOOyt2uu_YSUMc3WKRo25EnG2uERJyaRG2aSxgS_16TXsAWwm7-9CZzbNXll0yn6REJ7O5iBHQAbgy6xoRLuGSoRIsM9b/s1071/Screenshot%202025-11-24%20at%2013.06.08.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;361&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1071&quot; height=&quot;216&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0FD9AQ-pHs8NoyXKoFlG_23APfffxLWrpYh4CxiqaT8tMUKp4AkqBaAS2hLXul9ftzCWfbnKZLxW4KKaiiQG-OrSAOOyt2uu_YSUMc3WKRo25EnG2uERJyaRG2aSxgS_16TXsAWwm7-9CZzbNXll0yn6REJ7O5iBHQAbgy6xoRLuGSoRIsM9b/w640-h216/Screenshot%202025-11-24%20at%2013.06.08.png&quot; title=&quot;pled guilty in UK NOW&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;pled guilty &lt;/i&gt;in NOW-GB&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgxBBdQTXnV25CbyV5L9_jM6h2sVn6hEPwk3Yxj1PAsgFBM_JqbgFGCS5-Ldz2hCE1H9BnemDkMsA2xV2mHhJwDUcfYo9BU4A12erB6mWW5IEhcMZToCA3L87R9_8PLT78-77OnXXvD-_W7h-l07eu6iZu16q-8P3IFvssqKV9sA83HCDXGil_X/s1066/Screenshot%202025-11-24%20at%2013.30.02.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;355&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1066&quot; height=&quot;214&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgxBBdQTXnV25CbyV5L9_jM6h2sVn6hEPwk3Yxj1PAsgFBM_JqbgFGCS5-Ldz2hCE1H9BnemDkMsA2xV2mHhJwDUcfYo9BU4A12erB6mWW5IEhcMZToCA3L87R9_8PLT78-77OnXXvD-_W7h-l07eu6iZu16q-8P3IFvssqKV9sA83HCDXGil_X/w640-h214/Screenshot%202025-11-24%20at%2013.30.02.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;pleaded guilty &lt;/i&gt;in NOW-GB&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;Getting back to Mike&#39;s observation: it&#39;s tough to check the BBC directly: when I tried searching their website for &lt;i&gt;pled guilty&lt;/i&gt;, it asked me &quot;Did you mean: plea guilty, plead guilty?&quot; The actual results had the word &lt;i&gt;pledge &lt;/i&gt;and not &lt;i&gt;pled&lt;/i&gt;. Searching via Google, the first bunch of results I got were all from Scotland.&amp;nbsp; (There was only one BBC hit in my NOW sample of 100.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;I&#39;ll leave you with one more graph, from Google Books. The craziest thing in this graph is the fact that US &lt;i&gt;pled guilty&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(orange line) has gone up so much in the past four decades whie never overtaking, or even denting, then numbers for &lt;i&gt;pleaded guilty&lt;/i&gt;. While the use of &lt;i&gt;pled guilty &lt;/i&gt;in UK books goes up a tiny bit in this century, it&#39;s worth noting that that&#39;s after the Criminal Procedure Act of 1995 (Scotland) and the Crime and Punishment Act of 1997 (Scotland) that include &lt;i&gt;pled guilty &lt;/i&gt;(as well asl other laws that include &lt;i&gt;pled&lt;/i&gt;).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;variant-form-comment&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLZB7waYbQN3IaTIygoBHJNZi8O02Lc0y-l-HnCW3Ii5UKYCsfzxxqA_bi8M2jaTDohBARt7Emcw9_Wko36Isn_yD9OMo4IsmeirKP-ZhDBe68h7qZLjD8jWK3cTYYYC3cdrrzODHcuWVeniC_bkEs187rk0GplGdTw4loNYruUt0jnUhoLH7E/s1762/Screenshot%202025-11-23%20at%2018.01.58.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;757&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1762&quot; height=&quot;274&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLZB7waYbQN3IaTIygoBHJNZi8O02Lc0y-l-HnCW3Ii5UKYCsfzxxqA_bi8M2jaTDohBARt7Emcw9_Wko36Isn_yD9OMo4IsmeirKP-ZhDBe68h7qZLjD8jWK3cTYYYC3cdrrzODHcuWVeniC_bkEs187rk0GplGdTw4loNYruUt0jnUhoLH7E/w640-h274/Screenshot%202025-11-23%20at%2018.01.58.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  

.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/4024548495288529415/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/11/pleaded-and-pled.html#comment-form' title='36 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/4024548495288529415'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/4024548495288529415'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/11/pleaded-and-pled.html' title='pleaded and pled'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6mf49U-SAu6CBfcEQGR8tsPTqdzBTmsI3HKBvS4TlM0u4czpxt-AR6JeK55ze6MfuML_6mtKTYJ1Fe_ftVvDaP1trIHQ2jV4Qt0aoZcynQkAQUVeoFOqybS3GlwSaBBFMYj3wkH4R2nZjk6o-uUA77cQP4Aom5ZLyHl095OwYSxBMFuk3nSuS/s72-w640-h152-c/Screenshot%202025-11-21%20at%2022.30.58.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>36</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-1960931764097476057</id><published>2025-10-20T00:29:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2025-10-20T11:23:44.359+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="auxiliary verbs"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="grammar"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="past tense"/><title type='text'>hadn&#39;t have VERBed</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;A great thing about being Facebook friends with linguists is that I get to benefit from their daily observations of English. Here&#39;s a recent observation from John Wells:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #080809; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, &amp;quot;system-ui&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;.SFNSText-Regular&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;Something I&#39;ve just heard on the telly about someone who nearly drowned: &quot;If the fisherman hadn&#39;t&#39;ve spotted him, he might not have survived.&quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #080809; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, &amp;quot;system-ui&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;.SFNSText-Regular&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;I keep hearing this grammatical construction in BrE, with extra &quot;have&quot; (&#39;ve) as compared with the standard &quot;...hadn&#39;t spotted...&quot;. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #080809; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, &amp;quot;system-ui&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;.SFNSText-Regular&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;But I have never come across any comment on, or discussion of, this usage.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the comments, some people claim it&#39;s much used in the US, but it soon becomes clear that there&#39;s some confusion with a different construction than Wells was talking about. So, let&#39;s look at it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#39;m using the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/now/&quot;&gt;News on the Web corpus &lt;/a&gt;(because my usual go-to&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/glowbe/&quot;&gt;GloWbE corpus&lt;/a&gt; isn&#39;t co&lt;b&gt;(-)&lt;/b&gt;operating in giving me the contractions). There I searched for &quot;had n&#39;t have VERB&quot; and got it with a range of verbs:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEisVCkFgzld7KMCyCkn7kVNIkOITex8Sq2AZgawHrYMtCx1zbILRqBWB2kiUnRfa-0aJsIDFflOuV0yGHly3AxN6lvJtvplHoPlD22Z1sZew-MHjJ_61hX9tqvOc6hPeHjy480-Y84V6xhF87P6ECNI0LsPoPgiNGhA7DTWyW00zxwoYTJIbUBP/s1790/Screenshot%202025-10-14%20at%2009.44.54.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1090&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1790&quot; height=&quot;390&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEisVCkFgzld7KMCyCkn7kVNIkOITex8Sq2AZgawHrYMtCx1zbILRqBWB2kiUnRfa-0aJsIDFflOuV0yGHly3AxN6lvJtvplHoPlD22Z1sZew-MHjJ_61hX9tqvOc6hPeHjy480-Y84V6xhF87P6ECNI0LsPoPgiNGhA7DTWyW00zxwoYTJIbUBP/w640-h390/Screenshot%202025-10-14%20at%2009.44.54.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Where do those examples come from? Mostly the UK, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. So it&#39;s not looking like a particularly American feature.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFp952i0N8hRNwtqbnqWjUWMk_hsS0UnE1KOLmkQcPUggN3ikDFtrhuvBtVSBjnmB_yoIhJaBMeVSEtwerdP_bHL_T9bW0BnwQ1DI18drjGrq7A5xPfbadOrar_1RFgNQlBo9PughrPzcGGqA263QpROard30GEZ-Pt8xr48EyufQsrChdkgWN/s1534/Screenshot%202025-10-14%20at%2009.46.27.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1194&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1534&quot; height=&quot;498&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFp952i0N8hRNwtqbnqWjUWMk_hsS0UnE1KOLmkQcPUggN3ikDFtrhuvBtVSBjnmB_yoIhJaBMeVSEtwerdP_bHL_T9bW0BnwQ1DI18drjGrq7A5xPfbadOrar_1RFgNQlBo9PughrPzcGGqA263QpROard30GEZ-Pt8xr48EyufQsrChdkgWN/w640-h498/Screenshot%202025-10-14%20at%2009.46.27.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I didn&#39;t find any examples in the NOW corpus of &lt;i&gt;hadn&#39;t&#39;ve&lt;/i&gt;, which is not surprising, since double contractions are a more spoken phenomenon, less likely to be found on news sites (and as we&#39;ve seen before, &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2016/02/double-contractions.html&quot;&gt;they&#39;re more common in written AmE than in written BrE&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Since the News on the Web Corpus is mostly edited English, I didn&#39;t expect to find a lot of examples where the &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;have&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;is represented as &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;of&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, but the 13 I did fine were from those same countries. And this isn&#39;t surprising because as we&#39;ve seen before,&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2016/02/might-of-would-of-could-of-should-of.html&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&#39;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;ve&amp;gt;of&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;is more common in BrE than in AmE&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvR7rA8CAI1YcvNSVJsO7bejhrfUCPXcVnESgV4mxRH94srvp7lqIwoyb6EtM-8Be08dfKCGTiK8cz4r_Ka-WtaL0lVGY6w94ePO10iPc-u25xfAYexLl4nZO_KZe1YdZ51ktq0_Qslw9CCARcgBGGvbege0m8_Bhkom_SK-ZoS5ZpNIvReScR/s1409/Screenshot%202025-10-14%20at%2009.45.38.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;309&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1409&quot; height=&quot;140&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvR7rA8CAI1YcvNSVJsO7bejhrfUCPXcVnESgV4mxRH94srvp7lqIwoyb6EtM-8Be08dfKCGTiK8cz4r_Ka-WtaL0lVGY6w94ePO10iPc-u25xfAYexLl4nZO_KZe1YdZ51ktq0_Qslw9CCARcgBGGvbege0m8_Bhkom_SK-ZoS5ZpNIvReScR/w640-h140/Screenshot%202025-10-14%20at%2009.45.38.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, it&#39;s looking pretty British, but in&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.academia.edu/38768063/Characteristics_of_non_standard_grammar_in_Scotland&quot;&gt;Caroline McAfee&#39;s &#39;Characteristics of non-standard grammar in Scotland&#39;&lt;/a&gt;, she says &quot;as in American English&quot;. (Bold = my emphasis, so it&#39;s clear which [more BrE] &lt;b&gt;bits&lt;/b&gt; of the example we&#39;re talking about.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;In Scottish speech, as in American English, there is a sequence &lt;b&gt;had – (ENCLITIC NEGATIVE PARTICLE) – have PAST PARTICIPLE&lt;/b&gt;. The identity of the second have, which appears as a weak or enclitic form, is problematic (as witness the writers who spell it of):&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;‘Ah &lt;b&gt;wouldnae of came &lt;/b&gt;if Ah &lt;b&gt;had of knew&lt;/b&gt;,’ he insisted (Helen W. Pryde, &lt;i&gt;the First Book of the McFlannels&lt;/i&gt;, 1947: 24)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;Adams (1948) suggested that it was a survival of English dialectal y- before past participles, reinterpreted as have via the latter’s weak form a. The occurrence of the form in Scotland and the USA is compatible with diffusion from Ulster. Fodor and Smith (1978) offer a purely synchronic analysis, seeing the first have as a modal and the second as the auxiliary of the perfect.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The British usage may have started in Scotland and now is more widespread. But what about that &quot;as in American English&quot;? Well, the historical picture in Google Ngrams gives us a different story from the contemporary NOW corpus.&amp;nbsp; Here it is with &lt;i&gt;had&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;been &lt;/i&gt;as the last verb in the search term:&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg5bk5__JmOI-2vSl2LbedZw5SxMQWvunEK6bwugAkJY1pLAnVUI39t0_qPPy5YZ9Tx-gl3AcltHTWxlvYI5PcFspPtNREZemtiiqGVsp7mQwxaPPHrlHUGfx0yMeBSaHTO9sjzAtjJX6jVnsLVkhupPlm5SjSi9-CXsE1atgDWG9sS63MND1k4&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1174&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2270&quot; height=&quot;330&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg5bk5__JmOI-2vSl2LbedZw5SxMQWvunEK6bwugAkJY1pLAnVUI39t0_qPPy5YZ9Tx-gl3AcltHTWxlvYI5PcFspPtNREZemtiiqGVsp7mQwxaPPHrlHUGfx0yMeBSaHTO9sjzAtjJX6jVnsLVkhupPlm5SjSi9-CXsE1atgDWG9sS63MND1k4=w640-h330&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJI63cVy7SGhVtRctx2xGMVNBZLaIF4mhlBtwcAZW8KJ7-bVkxWf8BmyAQUlXxI9nvGbpHTtIJWYvHsUTWoGRhWDhR3C7sRDrSFwYnKDqSzt8tvqaCxAwcAZPU3scV_0IC3rT_cb5cAh5mzWW-2skz24cR3bIA4VG7ayfi8W5DW4PTtRG3RD9j/s2264/Screenshot%202025-10-20%20at%2011.19.49.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;768&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2264&quot; height=&quot;218&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJI63cVy7SGhVtRctx2xGMVNBZLaIF4mhlBtwcAZW8KJ7-bVkxWf8BmyAQUlXxI9nvGbpHTtIJWYvHsUTWoGRhWDhR3C7sRDrSFwYnKDqSzt8tvqaCxAwcAZPU3scV_0IC3rT_cb5cAh5mzWW-2skz24cR3bIA4VG7ayfi8W5DW4PTtRG3RD9j/w640-h218/Screenshot%202025-10-20%20at%2011.19.49.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Though in this century, &lt;i&gt;hadn&#39;t have VERB&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;looks more British, before 1880 or so, it seemed to be all-American. This was shortly after the &quot;Great Migration&quot; from Ulster, through which large numbers of Northern Irish Protestants (with Scottish heritage) moved to the colonies.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But why, if the construction comes from Scotland, don&#39;t we see more in the earlier period in the UK? It might just come down to the fact that this is a corpus of books, and not everyone gets to publish books: maybe New World Scots found it easier to get into print than the Old World ones—after all, they were now removed from the social structures that may not have favo(u)red them in publishing. Maybe UK-located speakers/writers of the time were more aware of the non-standardness of the construction and therefore less likely to use it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The lesser use of it over time in AmE may be an effect of the lesser use of the perfect verb forms in AmE, whereby AmE now often uses simple past tense (&lt;i&gt;I ate&lt;/i&gt;) instead of the perfect, as in &lt;i&gt;I had eaten&lt;/i&gt;. It&#39;s hard to stick an extra &lt;i&gt;have &lt;/i&gt;into your perfect verb string if you dialect doesn&#39;t use perfect verb forms much. (I also have to wonder if the US v UK editors might pick up on it and change it at different rates.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/1960931764097476057/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/10/hadnt-have-verbed.html#comment-form' title='22 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/1960931764097476057'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/1960931764097476057'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/10/hadnt-have-verbed.html' title='hadn&#39;t have VERBed'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEisVCkFgzld7KMCyCkn7kVNIkOITex8Sq2AZgawHrYMtCx1zbILRqBWB2kiUnRfa-0aJsIDFflOuV0yGHly3AxN6lvJtvplHoPlD22Z1sZew-MHjJ_61hX9tqvOc6hPeHjy480-Y84V6xhF87P6ECNI0LsPoPgiNGhA7DTWyW00zxwoYTJIbUBP/s72-w640-h390-c/Screenshot%202025-10-14%20at%2009.44.54.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>22</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-3225574896903567494</id><published>2025-09-02T11:56:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2025-09-02T11:56:00.124+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="adjectives"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="crime/punishment"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="idioms"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="verbs"/><title type='text'>caught + ADJ</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;A shorter (maybe), quicker and earlier post this month, since I am going to be &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/07/double-ls.html&quot;&gt;travel(&lt;b&gt;l&lt;/b&gt;)ing &lt;/a&gt;without much internet access in September and am (orig. AmE) &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;freaking out*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; about how much work I have to do before the &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/11/autumnal-holidays.html&quot;&gt;autumn/fall&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; semester begins.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In &lt;a href=&quot;https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=70613&quot;&gt;a recent Language Log post, Victor Mair &lt;/a&gt;points out a difference in how American and British teens might react to this shirt:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgykS7H7qvj9cBnCSrNG3NGsiwOg_PHJEfStOtA10QAQx-5ve8QV91vv_zy8U1AvreV7LScofC3P8At79U32q-bShzuhtfJE8thlXz112GPcystQikEHuJ87eMUJtoTdNW_ak0nczCkwo504NtA-T-NYq1IFTMNkc_pGJRK3dsZPIV-_ZinUDyb/s1214/Screenshot%202025-08-21%20at%2012.10.49.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Grey t-shirt with Chinese writing and English translation: I love study, learning makes my mother happy&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;672&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1214&quot; height=&quot;177&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgykS7H7qvj9cBnCSrNG3NGsiwOg_PHJEfStOtA10QAQx-5ve8QV91vv_zy8U1AvreV7LScofC3P8At79U32q-bShzuhtfJE8thlXz112GPcystQikEHuJ87eMUJtoTdNW_ak0nczCkwo504NtA-T-NYq1IFTMNkc_pGJRK3dsZPIV-_ZinUDyb/w320-h177/Screenshot%202025-08-21%20at%2012.10.49.png&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Americans would tend to say &lt;i style=&quot;color: #990000; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;I wouldn&#39;t be caught dead in it &lt;/i&gt;but BrE speakers would more likely say &lt;i style=&quot;color: #990000; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;I wouldn&#39;t be seen dead in it&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBTW_ZWSAGi0ict7mF4AFj0OlvyO-xjw461c9_fzz5E2QxLL5Wk2xBxNaJJzBvZjuLYyAwDtu1uWBIPztzWBFyJZ6nrSCQBfREAWz9L3P35PsWXaULf136VYhlOyiUUAwMHtbr-ZUbqp__OoKRRgwIfIMLJeEhyhN_lFpAsS0yLVAxlkMTsxCX/s508/Screenshot%202025-08-21%20at%2011.55.52.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;207&quot; data-original-width=&quot;508&quot; height=&quot;260&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBTW_ZWSAGi0ict7mF4AFj0OlvyO-xjw461c9_fzz5E2QxLL5Wk2xBxNaJJzBvZjuLYyAwDtu1uWBIPztzWBFyJZ6nrSCQBfREAWz9L3P35PsWXaULf136VYhlOyiUUAwMHtbr-ZUbqp__OoKRRgwIfIMLJeEhyhN_lFpAsS0yLVAxlkMTsxCX/w640-h260/Screenshot%202025-08-21%20at%2011.55.52.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;To me, these bring up different images, since &lt;i&gt;caught &lt;/i&gt;is a more&amp;nbsp;dynamic verb than &lt;i&gt;seen&lt;/i&gt;. Those who are caught are generally trying not to be caught. I wore the t-shirt, but I wanted to avoid being seen in it. But those who are seen can&#39;t help being seen. If you say &#39;I wouldn&#39;t be seen dead in it&#39;, it sounds to me like you fear someone putting the t-shirt on you after you&#39;ve died. But maybe that difference in imagery is just me. Most people aren&#39;t so literalist about their idioms.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyhow...what&#39;s the history of these phrases? The OED has American&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;caught dead&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;from 1870 and American &lt;i&gt;seen dead&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in 1887, then a Scottish-authored &lt;i&gt;found dead&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in 1923, followed by British&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;seen deads&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in the 1930s. So it&#39;s likely it started in the US, but then got translated a bit in UK.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2tO06dC4E2jf117rW-VxKxh8Z2SZlnPSn4wTqvz6lhqQmQRARhuX11HefEjYtskhX71p__9_fpVffN3x-UjH9ffpI8Kzck-qCdAk5sHm9yfikp1ueHR9g6eTD86rV6C0N5-XpUn06ANXbkYMLZD0NzS7QI5fkxxtRQhnD_Mq1Kfh-2M2bIMXk/s593/Screenshot%202025-08-21%20at%2012.22.31.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;1870– colloquial. (I, etc.) wouldn&#39;t be seen (also caught) dead and variants: (I, etc.) would be ashamed to be seen or found in a place, with someone, or doing something; (I, etc.) want nothing to do with (something or someone). 1870 I do not know anything about him, sir; I never traveled a mile with him, nor a square, and would not be caught dead with either of them. Miscellaneous Documents Legislature Pennsylvania 1429Citation details for Miscellaneous Documents Legislature Pennsylvania 1887 I quietly told him that if I knew myself, I would not be seen dead in the aforesaid articles. Outing March 540/2Citation details for Outing 1923 The sort of man..who would not be found dead in a bow-tie with a turn-over collar. N. Munro, Jimmy Swan in Warm Weather in B. D. Osborne &amp;amp; R. Armstrong, Erchie &amp;amp; Jimmy Swan (1993) ii. xxxiv. 465Citation details for N. Munro, Jimmy Swan in Warm Weather 1931 No decent person would be seen dead with a specimen like that! T. R. G. Lyell, Slang, Phrase &amp;amp; Idiom in Colloquial English 671Citation details for T. R. G. Lyell, Slang, Phrase &amp;amp;amp; Idiom in Colloquial English 1937 In the whole of France there wasn&#39;t a hat she would be seen dead in. M. Sharp, Nutmeg Tree ix. 103Citation details for M. Sharp, Nutmeg Tree 1966 Do you think I&#39;d be seen dead in gear like that? A. E. Lindop, I start Counting ix. 110Citation details for A. E. Lindop, I start Counting 2023 I wouldn&#39;t be caught dead in this place! @diannafeike 7 March in twitter.com (accessed 14 Mar. 2023)&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;400&quot; data-original-width=&quot;593&quot; height=&quot;432&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2tO06dC4E2jf117rW-VxKxh8Z2SZlnPSn4wTqvz6lhqQmQRARhuX11HefEjYtskhX71p__9_fpVffN3x-UjH9ffpI8Kzck-qCdAk5sHm9yfikp1ueHR9g6eTD86rV6C0N5-XpUn06ANXbkYMLZD0NzS7QI5fkxxtRQhnD_Mq1Kfh-2M2bIMXk/w640-h432/Screenshot%202025-08-21%20at%2012.22.31.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;from the OED&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Other &lt;i&gt;&#39;be caught&lt;/i&gt; ADJECTIVE&#39; phrases are also more American. (In this corpus result, the Token 1 column is number of hits in the US corpus, and the Token 2 column is UK).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg9du_pwIDvFrHHsnbE3rcIVG0bDgfeRrXHVScTiY983JRyFN-K3ib2I9e_iiwdkQskLuJmigA5QCfWRBbPdMn8ZnLty0Lftt49lazEKbAs5Clo1-UbpfkMo29FYk2qcVTVtodSwHVUbHHa8gu7VfTftF7A5eTJ25D8ojtoiMwDNrnagieuT6Ud/s446/Screenshot%202025-08-21%20at%2012.51.02.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Corpus of Global Web-Based English results CAUGHT DEAD	84	30;  CAUGHT UNPREPARED	21	10;CAUGHT OFF-GUARD	44	29;CAUGHT FLAT-FOOTED	33	22; CAUGHT UNAWARE	20	15&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;251&quot; data-original-width=&quot;446&quot; height=&quot;360&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg9du_pwIDvFrHHsnbE3rcIVG0bDgfeRrXHVScTiY983JRyFN-K3ib2I9e_iiwdkQskLuJmigA5QCfWRBbPdMn8ZnLty0Lftt49lazEKbAs5Clo1-UbpfkMo29FYk2qcVTVtodSwHVUbHHa8gu7VfTftF7A5eTJ25D8ojtoiMwDNrnagieuT6Ud/w640-h360/Screenshot%202025-08-21%20at%2012.51.02.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;As well as &lt;i&gt;caught unaware&lt;/i&gt;, there&#39;s the more frequent &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;caught unawares&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;(which might not have been tagged as an adjective in the corpus, leading to its absence from the chart above). Another AmE &lt;i&gt;caught &lt;/i&gt;expression is &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;caught short&lt;/span&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh-fHrVcr3KGpZ6OjjLx7_D1NsXo-repZI3mLnb0pP8BfdyiR_dbME-BR4KLN157DmYxtCw0I34wwrLutmRnsf1efHmwxrUAWjjUxcqWD8ncRi-PiQWpuGHdMN0u9nrg5esUr3weiOPRHY79FZfmFJWuoFB-lfgTRvbyB5IOfrVVVxFDEogHEXD/s795/Screenshot%202025-08-21%20at%2012.55.42.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;795&quot; data-original-width=&quot;665&quot; height=&quot;640&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh-fHrVcr3KGpZ6OjjLx7_D1NsXo-repZI3mLnb0pP8BfdyiR_dbME-BR4KLN157DmYxtCw0I34wwrLutmRnsf1efHmwxrUAWjjUxcqWD8ncRi-PiQWpuGHdMN0u9nrg5esUr3weiOPRHY79FZfmFJWuoFB-lfgTRvbyB5IOfrVVVxFDEogHEXD/w536-h640/Screenshot%202025-08-21%20at%2012.55.42.png&quot; width=&quot;536&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;from the OED&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, generally, &lt;i&gt;caught &lt;/i&gt;is used with adjectives to describe being in a situation you&#39;re not prepared for. With a noun, we also have &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;caught by surprise&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/i&gt;(more than 2x&amp;nbsp;more US hits in&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/glowbe/&quot;&gt;GloWbE&lt;/a&gt;).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But not all &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;caught &lt;/i&gt;+ adjective phrases with connotations of unreadiness are more American. &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;Caught red-handed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;has more UK hits in the&amp;nbsp;GloWbE corpus (less than 2x more), and that makes sense since &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;red-handed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;is from Scotland in the early 1800s. (The red is the blood of the person you&#39;ve just murdered.) That&#39;s a more literal &lt;i&gt;caught&lt;/i&gt;, though—being caught by the police (or someone).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;*I&#39;ve only really just appreciated that anything that looks &lt;b&gt;bold &lt;/b&gt;when I&#39;m in the blogger editor doesn&#39;t look bold when the post is published—at least not on my browser. So, I&#39;m going to start putting bold things in another &lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;colo(u)r &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;just to underscore the difference. If anyone wants to give me a tip on how to retroactively change the font across the blog to make the bolds stand out more, please let me know via gmail (lynneguist).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/3225574896903567494/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/09/caught-adj.html#comment-form' title='20 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3225574896903567494'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3225574896903567494'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/09/caught-adj.html' title='caught + ADJ'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgykS7H7qvj9cBnCSrNG3NGsiwOg_PHJEfStOtA10QAQx-5ve8QV91vv_zy8U1AvreV7LScofC3P8At79U32q-bShzuhtfJE8thlXz112GPcystQikEHuJ87eMUJtoTdNW_ak0nczCkwo504NtA-T-NYq1IFTMNkc_pGJRK3dsZPIV-_ZinUDyb/s72-w320-h177-c/Screenshot%202025-08-21%20at%2012.10.49.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>20</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-6352915260711561381</id><published>2025-08-10T13:05:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2025-08-10T13:13:03.851+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="crime/punishment"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="idioms"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="signage"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="verbs"/><title type='text'>tips, dumps, fly-tipping, fly-posting, post no bills</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;On my way home from work, I pass the windowless side of an &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/04/semi-detached-duplex-and-other-houses.html&quot; style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;end-of-terrace house&lt;/a&gt;, on which this sign is posted:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgmadoAEa2OYLpSBBLdL0vSnG1_Fzv-ytL0fI3Q79hpaSebQSJAyiwAvB-4jSbCuUNFrgGzB4TcDirYk0IvYjs46YXK3-KAK6662WiRjgWcm2xPHipih15vwEp7bnjZHfPTMa5llovty_lT6iImidfbJJysRwHBdAXHETYN6KPnVlIPocETUrjk/s3173/2025-08-06%2019.30.19.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Sign: No fly-tipping / Enforcement officers patrol this area / Offenders will be prosecuted. Maximum fine £50,000 and/or imprisonment. Brighton and Hove City Council&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2374&quot; data-original-width=&quot;3173&quot; height=&quot;299&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgmadoAEa2OYLpSBBLdL0vSnG1_Fzv-ytL0fI3Q79hpaSebQSJAyiwAvB-4jSbCuUNFrgGzB4TcDirYk0IvYjs46YXK3-KAK6662WiRjgWcm2xPHipih15vwEp7bnjZHfPTMa5llovty_lT6iImidfbJJysRwHBdAXHETYN6KPnVlIPocETUrjk/w400-h299/2025-08-06%2019.30.19.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Such signs are a common sight in England, and not immediately transparent to AmE speakers, who are more accustomed to &#39;No dumping&#39; signs:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgX1TueGiZdfTYibg3N1bi60KSAqDfFWbwsHkxiiKpecVzWsILIODqI9D8-KUPPQUGEJZoJ9PuLdd6UIKIVYXZS-ZUQvt9gApZTOzwsMnGbWkysDeUucXhE6XS-ECWa4F0cmTOF_joDe-jSm-46DTj4QxJBYJVHKeSe85_XqSvtweaeuQ_NmTbC/s1790/Screenshot%202025-08-10%20at%2011.07.02.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Three red/white/black signs with words and pictographs: No Dumping: Warning - This Property Is Protected by Video Surveillance, Violators will be Prosecuted ; No Dumping: Violators Will Be Prosecuted, Private Property No Trespassing, 24 Hour Surveillance; No Dumping: Violators Will Be Prosecuted&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;480&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1790&quot; height=&quot;173&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgX1TueGiZdfTYibg3N1bi60KSAqDfFWbwsHkxiiKpecVzWsILIODqI9D8-KUPPQUGEJZoJ9PuLdd6UIKIVYXZS-ZUQvt9gApZTOzwsMnGbWkysDeUucXhE6XS-ECWa4F0cmTOF_joDe-jSm-46DTj4QxJBYJVHKeSe85_XqSvtweaeuQ_NmTbC/w640-h173/Screenshot%202025-08-10%20at%2011.07.02.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;from &lt;a href=&quot;http://SmartSign.com&quot;&gt;SmartSign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;(There&#39;s more we could say about these signs, but we haven&#39;t got space for that right now. &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/09/posted.html&quot;&gt;For more on &lt;i&gt;NO TRESPASSING&lt;/i&gt;, see this old post on AmE &lt;i&gt;POSTED&lt;/i&gt; signs&lt;/a&gt;.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Brighton sign is an official local-government sign, while anyone can buy those US examples. The equivalent anyone-can-buy it signs in the UK might have both the terms &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;tipping&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;dumping&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiO_CgIMv2zagjAqqLjzEP32eV0Kzu6ZnI-caq_86v77WETE2hjpoMtD0LQFRJSwZ5UWDjseGjMkiJB0bt1HpFSRHvENxzNCJOKaWcFPt7xXMC9nW4HQXkf9qffsoVyFQmXGlOa2oGPqlfXB9GzBQEe7XfaPWXAPAkQgRqvxyrISh8F2p5-Y5La/s1262/Screenshot%202025-08-10%20at%2011.21.20.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Red and white sign: red circle with line through it, under which is &amp;quot;No dumping or tipping&amp;quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1262&quot; data-original-width=&quot;918&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiO_CgIMv2zagjAqqLjzEP32eV0Kzu6ZnI-caq_86v77WETE2hjpoMtD0LQFRJSwZ5UWDjseGjMkiJB0bt1HpFSRHvENxzNCJOKaWcFPt7xXMC9nW4HQXkf9qffsoVyFQmXGlOa2oGPqlfXB9GzBQEe7XfaPWXAPAkQgRqvxyrISh8F2p5-Y5La/w233-h320/Screenshot%202025-08-10%20at%2011.21.20.png&quot; width=&quot;233&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;from &lt;a href=&quot;http://morelock.co.uk&quot;&gt;morelock.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tipping&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;(first cited UK early 1800s)&lt;i&gt;, &lt;/i&gt;like &lt;i&gt;dumping&lt;/i&gt;,&amp;nbsp;relates to tipping, and thereby releasing, the contents of a truck or cart into an area for waste, hence BrE &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;tip&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;for what AmE would call &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;dump&lt;/i&gt;: a (probably official) place where the waste from a particular area can be left (for processing, piling up, burial, etc.). The verb &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;dump &lt;/i&gt;(&#39;to fall with sudden force&#39;) goes back to Middle English, but it&#39;s only in the late 1700s, in the US, that it starts to be used transitively to refer particularly to getting rid of waste.&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;(See&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/06/bins.html&quot;&gt;this old post for more on AmE &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;dumpster&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;See &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2008/06/carts-and-trolleys.html&quot;&gt;the comments of this old post for discussion of &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;dump truck&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Tipping or dumping could be legal, but &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;fly-tipping &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;is specifically &#39;illegal dumping&#39;. Why&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;fly&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;? It&#39;s not to do with the insects that inevitably follow illegal dumping. It&#39;s the &lt;i&gt;fly &lt;/i&gt;in the expression &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;on the fly&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;: that is, in motion or &#39;on the wing&#39;. Dumping/tipping that is &quot;on the fly&quot; is without prior arrangement and probably surreptitious. You&#39;re taking a load of waste away from where it&#39;s not needed, and you just leave it someplace that is conveniently unobserved. The term &lt;i&gt;fly-tipping &lt;/i&gt;is first noted by the&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Oxford English Dictionary &lt;/i&gt;in the 1960s, and the &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-formation&quot;&gt;back-formed&lt;/a&gt; verb &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;fly-tip&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;only comes up in the 1980s.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;On the fly &lt;/i&gt;developed different uses in BrE and AmE in the&amp;nbsp;mid-1800s. In BrE it could be a slang term for begging (or committing crimes) while moving &lt;b&gt;about/around &lt;/b&gt;town. (See &lt;a href=&quot;https://greensdictofslang.com/entry/vogmx2y&quot;&gt;Green&#39;s Dictionary of Slang&lt;/a&gt;.) With that extension,&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;fly-tipping &lt;/i&gt;makes some sense as a term for an illegal activity. In AmE, &lt;i&gt;on the fly&lt;/i&gt; became a description of a baseball that&#39;s been hit, but has not yet touched the ground—so you want to catch the other team&#39;s ball &lt;i&gt;on the fly&lt;/i&gt;. (The term&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;fly ball&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;comes some decades later, as a result.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;fly-posting&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you know that&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;fly-tipping &lt;/i&gt;is illegally dumping waste &quot;on the fly&quot;, then it&#39;s easier to see what BrE&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;f&lt;b&gt;ly-posting&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;means: putting up posters on the move—all over town.&amp;nbsp; (Often, but &lt;a href=&quot;https://echoposter.com/en/plakatwerbung/flyposting/?utm_term=flyposting&amp;amp;utm_campaign=S-Wildposting-UK&amp;amp;utm_source=google&amp;amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;amp;hsa_acc=2056807073&amp;amp;hsa_cam=22656013587&amp;amp;hsa_grp=180810749677&amp;amp;hsa_ad=757494080047&amp;amp;hsa_src=g&amp;amp;hsa_tgt=kwd-322872364065&amp;amp;hsa_kw=flyposting&amp;amp;hsa_mt=b&amp;amp;hsa_net=adwords&amp;amp;hsa_ver=3&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=22656013587&amp;amp;gbraid=0AAAAADn0lL701QcYHlAYC02tfdWbMEYte&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwhuHEBhBHEiwAZrvdcu-qlM0HG1ktyJHdaq-cuSc25dlsPi0UIdFP4Ph8qp3BCHJ32Bq8GRoCXX4QAvD_BwE&quot;&gt;not necessarily&lt;/a&gt;, illegally.) If you don&#39;t make the &lt;i&gt;on the fly &lt;/i&gt;connection, you might think it&#39;s about posting (orig. AmE) &lt;b&gt;flyers &lt;/b&gt;(late 1800s). But since&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;flyer &lt;/i&gt;also comes from that same &#39;quickly, while moving&#39; sense of &lt;i&gt;fly&lt;/i&gt;, you&#39;re not far off.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6tAnsTJtATBlR_JTgWPqaO2rWaDmDZiZNO1FSnCi7AGcseX1OCy_rQVHnvbBpjuV7bWYPsiKF-ieIPQpUZiNXK5o4XYk4UFJ6jcGlcFS4kvoA-hEyF2-ExGGS-mpckOPuqCV0v03pI29JBeaeDH6sYv7mW1QIwz22RLgLIh9az-5cUe3VlQlF/s1510/Screenshot%202025-08-10%20at%2012.20.58.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1082&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1510&quot; height=&quot;458&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6tAnsTJtATBlR_JTgWPqaO2rWaDmDZiZNO1FSnCi7AGcseX1OCy_rQVHnvbBpjuV7bWYPsiKF-ieIPQpUZiNXK5o4XYk4UFJ6jcGlcFS4kvoA-hEyF2-ExGGS-mpckOPuqCV0v03pI29JBeaeDH6sYv7mW1QIwz22RLgLIh9az-5cUe3VlQlF/w640-h458/Screenshot%202025-08-10%20at%2012.20.58.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;From a&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2023/01/31/council-brings-in-new-rules-to-tackle-flyposting-and-stickering/&quot;&gt;Brighton &amp;amp; Hove News article &quot;Council brings in new rules to tackle flyposting and stickering&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p&gt;An earlier term for this is &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;bill-sticking&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(late 1700s, esp. in 1800s), which one occasionally still sees in the UK, especially the agentive noun &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;bill-sticker&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;/i&gt;We rarely call flyers or posters &lt;i&gt;bills &lt;/i&gt;or &lt;i&gt;handbills&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;these days, but that&#39;s what they were from the late 1700s and into the 20th century.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;While it&#39;s possible to find uses of &lt;i&gt;fly-posting &lt;/i&gt;in the US, it&#39;s a much rarer term there. Instead of signs saying &lt;b&gt;No Flyposting &lt;/b&gt;you might see a stencil(l)ed&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;Post No Bills&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1kRptHzWAZrT2Fv1AZGlk9DTdMP9j4euggfXDrbrywb8JkDoEJGzsG4qdBbCgO43loYaiOBuIrLugzcabRsWMqE4i4om5P9CqnVJZ2iQhR5KUA6ZbV8Hm4kooucG960VlQzVsxhCrA6fgq2MTZk6yO9iGSc-0jRAOzSyY0KeSwn0NP0FHmeWR/s1952/Screenshot%202025-08-10%20at%2012.29.01.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Post No Bills stencil, white on black wall, in foreground. Man cleaning pavement/sidewalk with hose and cityscape in background&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1262&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1952&quot; height=&quot;414&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1kRptHzWAZrT2Fv1AZGlk9DTdMP9j4euggfXDrbrywb8JkDoEJGzsG4qdBbCgO43loYaiOBuIrLugzcabRsWMqE4i4om5P9CqnVJZ2iQhR5KUA6ZbV8Hm4kooucG960VlQzVsxhCrA6fgq2MTZk6yO9iGSc-0jRAOzSyY0KeSwn0NP0FHmeWR/w640-h414/Screenshot%202025-08-10%20at%2012.29.01.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://alexwesterman.com/new-york-city/nyc-history/quiet-sentinels-the-secret-history-and-design-of-the-post-no-bills-sign/&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;From Alex Westerman&#39;s essay about POST NO BILLS in New York City&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;For a while, it was funny to post pictures of Bills next to such stencils (or to add one&#39;s own):&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEipN4-ZdC3nSYx_1vo4P-RwHWc3fhE0ZieeyabzGzf6gHLZHp5Xn0KL_5azq0f1eeJXu_CRcfHPhFyr9HyFYZoTsx6P2wHYiC33qro8efK9qZFpdeuLxJluC9Up3RjuyPPEM3SUY8DI0sTBKYjAAbbJVkt-dapztDDom5yl0C-OSP6Di1pWCzSh/s600/post-no-bills-close-up.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Post No Bills, painted white on black wall, beside taped-up pictures of Bills that are famous to Pittsburghers, including Bill Murray and Bill Gates&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;376&quot; data-original-width=&quot;600&quot; height=&quot;402&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEipN4-ZdC3nSYx_1vo4P-RwHWc3fhE0ZieeyabzGzf6gHLZHp5Xn0KL_5azq0f1eeJXu_CRcfHPhFyr9HyFYZoTsx6P2wHYiC33qro8efK9qZFpdeuLxJluC9Up3RjuyPPEM3SUY8DI0sTBKYjAAbbJVkt-dapztDDom5yl0C-OSP6Di1pWCzSh/w640-h402/post-no-bills-close-up.jpg&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;from &lt;a href=&quot;https://pittsburghorbit.com/2015/09/06/post-no-bills/&quot;&gt;Pittsburgh Orbit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;(This calls to mind &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/09/posted.html&quot;&gt;my earlier post on POSTED signs in the US&lt;/a&gt;, also linked-to above. And my post re &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/06/bills-notes.html&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;bills &lt;/i&gt;versus &lt;i&gt;notes&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;Neither of these is terribly related to the issues in this post, but, hey, someone might be wondering.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Another &lt;i&gt;bill/Bill&lt;/i&gt; joke, seen in UK and Australia, responds to &lt;b&gt;No Bill Posters &lt;/b&gt;signs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgag1aMAMvSgkzQKGbhGQPJfxolUA23CSYRdG8sf4SIrr9pka8xlEAseoFsGDhy4U8bfIU5Lk8bb2XZHCj0gp7tC_xov0uqi6p7k9leQw9t2DrGYGbtEUqxeW9Q0LjpujJwc15QdqXoeUeExvxU5fmEgDKWMGDFWVGz8LedWXoSj9P1KwuSJTpG/s318/Screenshot%202025-08-10%20at%2013.02.09.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Sign affixed to wall: BILL POSTERS WILL BE PROSECUTED. Graffito beneath it: BILL POSTERS IS INNOCENT&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;312&quot; data-original-width=&quot;318&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgag1aMAMvSgkzQKGbhGQPJfxolUA23CSYRdG8sf4SIrr9pka8xlEAseoFsGDhy4U8bfIU5Lk8bb2XZHCj0gp7tC_xov0uqi6p7k9leQw9t2DrGYGbtEUqxeW9Q0LjpujJwc15QdqXoeUeExvxU5fmEgDKWMGDFWVGz8LedWXoSj9P1KwuSJTpG/s16000/Screenshot%202025-08-10%20at%2013.02.09.png&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;from &lt;a href=&quot;https://soundcloud.com/billpostersldn&quot;&gt;Bill Posters Soundcloud&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;While you don&#39;t tend to see POST NO BILLS in the UK now, it does seem to have been used in the UK in the early 20th century. I&#39;ve found a couple of these signs (now sold) on auction sites:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgi_EiQJLoDLg3jqjh-98pfCVqRk_0tmXPk5LuyEsQoDrJBzW4Bw9w5XecSLWH-o76hhKpVYqZLy8zRxW9MslP8Yg5wR4aYCBu6Muyykiy8qo-uFG1o-oVI_R1YC77pxPo8ervm2ViFHDbSS0ybzSikS5baADHmYxePHDby-natzBkYdbnLV4AQ/s733/Screenshot%202025-08-10%20at%2012.50.18.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Battered metal sign, red with white lettering: G [crown graphic] R – POST NO BILLS&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;733&quot; data-original-width=&quot;568&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgi_EiQJLoDLg3jqjh-98pfCVqRk_0tmXPk5LuyEsQoDrJBzW4Bw9w5XecSLWH-o76hhKpVYqZLy8zRxW9MslP8Yg5wR4aYCBu6Muyykiy8qo-uFG1o-oVI_R1YC77pxPo8ervm2ViFHDbSS0ybzSikS5baADHmYxePHDby-natzBkYdbnLV4AQ/w310-h400/Screenshot%202025-08-10%20at%2012.50.18.png&quot; width=&quot;310&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.gwra.co.uk/auctions/post-office-enamel-sign-gr-post-no-bills-curved-en-2023mar-0006.html&quot;&gt;From GWRA auctions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;An AmE informal term for (often illegal) postering is &lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;wheatpasting&lt;/b&gt;, after &lt;a href=&quot;https://forum.bombingscience.com/threads/wheatpaste.3389/&quot;&gt;the paste&lt;/a&gt; used to fasten the posters so that they cannot be easily removed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/6352915260711561381/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/08/fly-tipping-fly-posting-post-no-bills.html#comment-form' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/6352915260711561381'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/6352915260711561381'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/08/fly-tipping-fly-posting-post-no-bills.html' title='tips, dumps, fly-tipping, fly-posting, post no bills'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgmadoAEa2OYLpSBBLdL0vSnG1_Fzv-ytL0fI3Q79hpaSebQSJAyiwAvB-4jSbCuUNFrgGzB4TcDirYk0IvYjs46YXK3-KAK6662WiRjgWcm2xPHipih15vwEp7bnjZHfPTMa5llovty_lT6iImidfbJJysRwHBdAXHETYN6KPnVlIPocETUrjk/s72-w400-h299-c/2025-08-06%2019.30.19.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-3175034398714774563</id><published>2025-07-13T19:47:00.007+01:00</published><updated>2025-07-13T23:03:52.227+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="adjectives"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="idioms"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="law"/><title type='text'>the fine/small print</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;Last month, Dave Mandl tagged me on &lt;a href=&quot;https://bsky.app/profile/dmandl.bsky.social/post/3lrs766jlis2a&quot;&gt;this message on Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhNE6PK_htyhy_zY8w81dlsuUaEQ_C32JHOwl7dilcpPaDoFRrXlN_LhYAMMtgJK2hGD6e2CZbvL3XPFYqNyaQZesRC519rGhHp4ZhTH7FXHG8SKzZxOkLmmOq4PLhyjDPjCJWslxk2dDh4xIcT47qGBuXPhi3JmHTr3_xDoPirBdBaLNSeLNSX/s950/Screenshot%202025-07-13%20at%2017.42.39.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Dave Mandl: Huh, is &amp;quot;small print&amp;quot; used in the UK vs. US &amp;quot;fine print&amp;quot;? I never realized that. (Headline from the FT.)  Headline in FT: The Economic Scourge of Small Print&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;426&quot; data-original-width=&quot;950&quot; height=&quot;286&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhNE6PK_htyhy_zY8w81dlsuUaEQ_C32JHOwl7dilcpPaDoFRrXlN_LhYAMMtgJK2hGD6e2CZbvL3XPFYqNyaQZesRC519rGhHp4ZhTH7FXHG8SKzZxOkLmmOq4PLhyjDPjCJWslxk2dDh4xIcT47qGBuXPhi3JmHTr3_xDoPirBdBaLNSeLNSX/w640-h286/Screenshot%202025-07-13%20at%2017.42.39.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I hadn&#39;t really reali{s/z}ed it either, till Dave pointed it out. But sure enough, it is the case. Here are a couple of screenshots from the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/glowbe/&quot;&gt;Corpus of Global Web-Based English&lt;/a&gt;, showing&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;the fine print&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/b&gt;and &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;the small print&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;with a bit more grammatical context:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjpoGxD3NKrRZbWsIw15zs3B10XMr7B5ce3Fc9xD8Q-zuuO4oQnsUrw9flHJwLA-dR8qNwnNpMURyH0Fdq88Fj2iSHmxB8GnQj2Tk1NRG4JfiUT2A4nfTiUjhlN26KRB4-tK_aIWZ9G6ididb8tIuauygvWKD1McpIBgyqVTkcv6UHyzzt8NsSz/s1402/Screenshot%202025-06-17%20at%2010.42.11.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;GloWbE results showing fine:small in the phrase IN THE _____ PRINT  at a ratio of 87:9 in US and 15:93 in UK.&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;590&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1402&quot; height=&quot;270&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjpoGxD3NKrRZbWsIw15zs3B10XMr7B5ce3Fc9xD8Q-zuuO4oQnsUrw9flHJwLA-dR8qNwnNpMURyH0Fdq88Fj2iSHmxB8GnQj2Tk1NRG4JfiUT2A4nfTiUjhlN26KRB4-tK_aIWZ9G6ididb8tIuauygvWKD1McpIBgyqVTkcv6UHyzzt8NsSz/w640-h270/Screenshot%202025-06-17%20at%2010.42.11.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjQfYryf1iVlPf7-HllRafhjM-oKKaAg-qHBH6RDvMSb4vOJl-0qslyC9ISDeafJUisf-alv2be-JBwZD5bChUUfEckbHwC_-jIqIOxfyS82szF9rFir6Ak3tCzBuEnX7fhgXKvIwU6aRJkA86UZVd4_GPD5tI8iVHlyUbT0-empMBLSUFGhP16/s1110/Screenshot%202025-07-13%20at%2017.23.19.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;GloWbE results showing fine:small in the phrase READ THE _____ PRINT  at a ratio of 157:22 in US and 47:126 in UK.&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;434&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1110&quot; height=&quot;250&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjQfYryf1iVlPf7-HllRafhjM-oKKaAg-qHBH6RDvMSb4vOJl-0qslyC9ISDeafJUisf-alv2be-JBwZD5bChUUfEckbHwC_-jIqIOxfyS82szF9rFir6Ak3tCzBuEnX7fhgXKvIwU6aRJkA86UZVd4_GPD5tI8iVHlyUbT0-empMBLSUFGhP16/w640-h250/Screenshot%202025-07-13%20at%2017.23.19.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Before we get into the &lt;i&gt;how, when, &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;where&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;of this, let&#39;s start with the &lt;i&gt;what&lt;/i&gt;. There are three uses of &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;fine/small print &lt;/b&gt;to sort out, which arose in this order:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;the original, literal meaning&lt;/b&gt;: printed characters that small in dimension and (relatedly/therefore) light in line thickness, and therefore difficult to read&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;e.g. &lt;i&gt;I can&#39;t read such small/fine print without my glasses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;the extended meaning&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;the fine/small print&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;supplementary text to a contract or other document that expresses terms and conditions, typically printed in a small/light font&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;e.g. &lt;i&gt;They hid the extra penalty fees in the small/fine print.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;more figurative uses&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;(again with &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt;):&amp;nbsp;important, technical/non-obvious information that one might not have paid attention to, but that might have serious repercussions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;e.g. &quot;The fine print of what Obama is doing is far less dramatic than many of his defenders and critics claim.&quot;&amp;nbsp; (Cedar Rapids, IA &lt;i&gt;Gazette&lt;/i&gt;, quoted in the&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Oxford English Dictionary&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the literal sense 1, the OED has examples of &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;small print &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;all the way back to the 1500s; &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;fine print&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;only appears in 1761. All the first citations are from England, but all their examples of &lt;i&gt;fine print &lt;/i&gt;from the 1850s onward are American.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the extended sense 2 (from what evidence we have), &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;the f&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;ine print &lt;/i&gt;shows up first—in an American &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Western_Reporter&quot;&gt;case-law reporter&lt;/a&gt; in 1891.&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;T&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;he small print&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;is first found in a yachting manual published in London in 1900.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It&#39;s hard to say when these expressions got more figurative. The OED only gives a separate figurative sense 3 for &lt;i&gt;fine print &lt;/i&gt;(first example, 1948)&amp;nbsp;with just &quot;also figurative&quot; at sense 2 for &lt;i&gt;small print&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;It&#39;s a bit annoying that the two are treated differently, but it appears to be because the figurative examples of &lt;i&gt;fine print &lt;/i&gt;in AmE are just more figurative. In the &#39;figurative&#39;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;fine print &lt;/i&gt;examples, like the Obama one above, we&#39;re looking at deeds rather than words. But the not-really-about-print examples of sense 2 for &lt;i&gt;small print &lt;/i&gt;involve language (if not print), as in this example from the &lt;i&gt;Telegraph&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol class=&quot;quotation-container&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: grid; font-family: &amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; gap: 0.75rem; grid-template-columns: min-content auto; line-height: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;li class=&quot;quotation&quot; id=&quot;22341991&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; display: contents; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 1rem; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: 1.55rem; margin: 0.75rem 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quotation-date&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 0.875em; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.3; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 1em 0px 0px; position: relative; text-align: left; top: 4px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;date&quot; color=&quot;inherit&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-wrap-mode: nowrap; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;1971&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quotation-body&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt; Some interest attaches therefore to the ‘&lt;mark class=&quot;quotation-keyword&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff0f3; background-repeat: no-repeat; border-radius: 2px; border: 1px solid rgb(255, 226, 231); box-sizing: border-box; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0.1em; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;small print&lt;/mark&gt;’ of the Queen&#39;s speech and how far it avoids firm undertakings on some of the more controversial measures.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So, to sum up, it looks like, for some reason, AmE liked the phrase &lt;i&gt;fine print &lt;/i&gt;more than &lt;i&gt;small print &lt;/i&gt;for the literal stuff, and then it added an extended meaning relating to contractual language. You can see the frequency of the phrase rising as it gets more uses—and the neglect of &lt;i&gt;small print &lt;/i&gt;in the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/coha/&quot;&gt;Corpus of Historical American English&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWyeYxjNz2Sr0zMrOzgLjkLNRk2LsSvhJ6ySiDhPHJ40VIFFwJ8a6jEOr7DAA4GCpPUSdjqQgNkSyNIytikSN1_MYawouI2082tx_luIHq2yWOlb0pWMImGnzV8xT-vciyEsletJHc2BosS7lMV1SkjoSpMT47_SlDR-UxLAteDP0uwkBPg1Qg/s1928/Screenshot%202025-07-13%20at%2018.20.23.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;454&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1928&quot; height=&quot;150&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWyeYxjNz2Sr0zMrOzgLjkLNRk2LsSvhJ6ySiDhPHJ40VIFFwJ8a6jEOr7DAA4GCpPUSdjqQgNkSyNIytikSN1_MYawouI2082tx_luIHq2yWOlb0pWMImGnzV8xT-vciyEsletJHc2BosS7lMV1SkjoSpMT47_SlDR-UxLAteDP0uwkBPg1Qg/w640-h150/Screenshot%202025-07-13%20at%2018.20.23.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjY5vC6IQibmajKTIAMkoM5-2QlvuXcBjiIXmH0qAMl0XQ62KaPkQDyPyaptyDFZsKlJ4bMju4IGK0DJJd9Jfm-TdNAfAVd1q-r33NQrsoQ-a2zEC4Tz4Jv8tb9kLhR6eCLzqTenv4Znz6kZm0c6cTbj4XaLtdzYTFmqERs8iNvuxGaG6LAksex/s1946/Screenshot%202025-07-13%20at%2018.19.42.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;444&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1946&quot; height=&quot;146&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjY5vC6IQibmajKTIAMkoM5-2QlvuXcBjiIXmH0qAMl0XQ62KaPkQDyPyaptyDFZsKlJ4bMju4IGK0DJJd9Jfm-TdNAfAVd1q-r33NQrsoQ-a2zEC4Tz4Jv8tb9kLhR6eCLzqTenv4Znz6kZm0c6cTbj4XaLtdzYTFmqERs8iNvuxGaG6LAksex/w640-h146/Screenshot%202025-07-13%20at%2018.19.42.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Then after the meaning was extended, it looks like it was &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calque&quot;&gt;calqued&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;into BrE—which is to say BrE took the idea and put it into the more familiar phrasing &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;small print&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I wondered whether there were broader differences in the use of &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;fine&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in its &#39;slim, delicate&#39; linear senses in AmE and BrE. I found a few things, but they don&#39;t add up to much of a picture:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;fine line&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;: &lt;/span&gt;consistently more AmE than BrE hits in singular&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;fine lines and wrinkles&lt;/i&gt;: This phrase had 3x more hits in BrE than AmE in&amp;nbsp;GloWbE (2012–13), but only about 1/3 more in the more recent&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/now/&quot;&gt;News on the Web (NoW)&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;corpus. It&#39;s strongest in Hong Kong/Singapore/Malaysia, though, so maybe it originated in advertising in Asia?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;draw a fine line between&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(two similar things)&lt;/i&gt;: The OED&#39;s first example of that is BrE in 1848; the&amp;nbsp;GloWbE corpus now has more US examples than UK, but the numbers are very small.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;fine-tip&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;fine-point&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;(of a pen, etc.): much more AmE in&amp;nbsp;GloWbE and NoW. (The number of hits for &lt;i&gt;fine nib&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;were tiny, but more in BrE. &lt;i&gt;Fine-nibbed pen&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;had more in AmE.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;Disclaimer:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;The content provided on this blog is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. The following disclaimer has been generated by an automated system, specifically ChatGPT, as part of the author’s decision to outsource the creation of said disclaimer for humorous and convenience-based purposes. The author of this blog, herein referred to as &quot;the Publisher,&quot; disclaims any liability for the use or interpretation of the information contained herein.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;By accessing and reading this blog, the reader acknowledges and agrees that the Publisher does not assume responsibility for any actions, outcomes, or consequences resulting from reliance on the content provided. Furthermore, the Publisher shall not be held liable for any direct, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages arising from the use or inability to use the information contained on this blog.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;The Publisher makes no warranties, express or implied, regarding the accuracy, completeness, or reliability of the content provided, nor does the Publisher guarantee that the content will be free from errors, omissions, or inaccuracies, since she wrote it on a Sunday afternoon, post-pub. Any reliance placed on such content is done so at the reader’s own risk.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;This disclaimer is subject to change at the Publisher&#39;s discretion and without prior notice. Continued use of this blog constitutes the reader’s acceptance of these terms.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/3175034398714774563/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/07/the-finesmall-print.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3175034398714774563'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3175034398714774563'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/07/the-finesmall-print.html' title='the fine/small print'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhNE6PK_htyhy_zY8w81dlsuUaEQ_C32JHOwl7dilcpPaDoFRrXlN_LhYAMMtgJK2hGD6e2CZbvL3XPFYqNyaQZesRC519rGhHp4ZhTH7FXHG8SKzZxOkLmmOq4PLhyjDPjCJWslxk2dDh4xIcT47qGBuXPhi3JmHTr3_xDoPirBdBaLNSeLNSX/s72-w640-h286-c/Screenshot%202025-07-13%20at%2017.42.39.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-7420043112978933590</id><published>2025-06-10T05:41:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2026-04-12T21:37:56.932+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="games"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="spelling"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="sport"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="verbs"/><title type='text'>balk and baulk</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;Over on &lt;a href=&quot;https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:6jx43qwahet4rlwfke4sloqy/post/3lowo77sccc2g&quot;&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;last month, I was pulled into a conversation that went something like this:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;Someone tweets a screenshot of a comment with the phrase &lt;i&gt;Do you &lt;b&gt;baulk&lt;/b&gt; at the film reviews...&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Someone American asks &quot;how long have y&#39;all been adding a u to &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;balk&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;?&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;And then, predictably, some respondents say it&#39;s always been there, Noah Webster took it out.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;That&#39;s the point where someone (&lt;i&gt;c&#39;est moi!&lt;/i&gt;) looked into it&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;and reported back:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;InterVariable, system-ui, -apple-system, &amp;quot;system-ui&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Segoe UI&amp;quot;, Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, &amp;quot;Apple Color Emoji&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Segoe UI Emoji&amp;quot;&quot; style=&quot;color: #0b0f14; font-variant-ligatures: no-contextual; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;   The Oxford English Dictionary has it as &lt;i&gt;balk&lt;/i&gt;. Since it comes from Old English, it only got a &#39;u&#39; after French had influenced (I am tempted to say &#39;infected&#39;) the spelling system.&amp;nbsp;The &#39;u&#39; came into the word in the 1600s and 1700s, and today the spelling is very mixed in BrE. &amp;nbsp;British National Corpus has 21 &lt;i&gt;baulked&lt;/i&gt;/13 &lt;i&gt;balked&lt;/i&gt;, more recent Corpus of Global Web-Based English has 71 &lt;i&gt;baulked&lt;/i&gt;/93 &lt;i&gt;balked&lt;/i&gt; in BrE. &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/balk&quot;&gt;Cambridge&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://chambers.co.uk/search/?query=balk&amp;amp;title=21st&quot;&gt;Chambers&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp; &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/balk&quot;&gt;Collins&lt;/a&gt; Dictionary all list &lt;i&gt;balk&lt;/i&gt; first as does the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.theguardian.com/guardian-style-guide-b&quot;&gt;Guardian Style Guide&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;Most &lt;b&gt;u&lt;/b&gt;/non-&lt;b&gt;u&lt;/b&gt; variations in BrE and AmE involve an &lt;b&gt;o&lt;/b&gt;—as in words like &lt;i&gt;colo(u)r &lt;/i&gt;and&lt;i&gt; mo(u)ld. &lt;/i&gt;The variation&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;can probably be blamed on Samuel Johnson as much as Noah Webster. In the 18th-century, not all British dictionaries put a &lt;b&gt;u &lt;/b&gt;in words like &lt;i&gt;colo(u)r&lt;/i&gt;, but Johnson did, and his dictionary became far more famous than the others, so the &lt;b&gt;u&lt;/b&gt; form eventually became standard in BrE. I write about the &lt;i&gt;ou/o &lt;/i&gt;spellings &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/10/putting-u-in-endeavour.html&quot;&gt;at this old post &lt;/a&gt;(and much more and much better in in &lt;a href=&quot;https://theprodigaltongue.com/&quot; style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;The Prodigal Tongue&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;i&gt;. &lt;/i&gt;But even Johnson spelled &lt;i&gt;balk &lt;/i&gt;without the &lt;b&gt;u&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;My attention to the &lt;i&gt;-o(u)- &lt;/i&gt;words &lt;i style=&quot;background-color: transparent;&quot;&gt; &lt;/i&gt;in the book meant I overlooked &lt;i&gt;balk/baulk&lt;/i&gt;—but I used the word &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;balked&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;in chapter 7: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;InterVariable, system-ui, -apple-system, &amp;quot;system-ui&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Segoe UI&amp;quot;, Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, &amp;quot;Apple Color Emoji&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Segoe UI Emoji&amp;quot;&quot; style=&quot;color: #0b0f14; font-variant-ligatures: no-contextual; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;...please &lt;/i&gt;seemed inappropriate in the small request situation, and so Americans &lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #ffd966;&quot;&gt;balked&lt;/span&gt; at it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The British copyeditor did not bat an eyelash—or a blue pencil—at it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Given the dictionaries&#39; agreement, we can say that &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;balk&lt;/i&gt; is the &quot;standard&quot; spelling of the verb in BrE. Given the corpus numbers, we can say that it is the &quot;normal&quot; spelling. Given the word&#39;s history, we can say it is the &quot;original&quot; spelling. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But those corpus numbers aren&#39;t so distinct, and given the conversation on Bluesky, it seems that some BrE writers really &lt;i&gt;want &lt;/i&gt;to spell it with a &lt;b&gt;u&lt;/b&gt; (and to believe that that is the &quot;standard/normal/original&quot; way to spell it). This may well be another instance of British spelling changing in recent decades in order to fight against &lt;i&gt;perceptions &lt;/i&gt;but not &lt;i&gt;realities &lt;/i&gt;of a British/American spelling difference.* &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Confusion about its spelling is understandable, though, since there is a noun that is more usually &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/02/ed-versus-t.html&quot; style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;spelled/spelt &lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;baulk. &lt;/b&gt;It&#39;s part of a billiard-type game table, and the term is used in &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_cue_sports_terms#baulk&quot;&gt;several terms in several such games&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiL8MbA-1LPEa6v3BYSZ0weiOPYmbOZbNkbWj88y6tGutGdG9zJs-HPxuEacpalRw7urxhAgqf2kxV4aj1DGdQq3_cPtPgjLZHbZoeJalNtKosUhH4ZS6XR8xhsz7hzZrOddy_-AVooYLwGnkaeBZ50zKMpGuh7dXkhxVZc_gucROJCB5buvd50/s1077/guidance_table.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Overhead view of a pool table with the leftmost edge labelled &#39;baulk cushion&#39; and the first  1/5 or so of the surface labelled &amp;quot;baulk&amp;quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;589&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1077&quot; height=&quot;350&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiL8MbA-1LPEa6v3BYSZ0weiOPYmbOZbNkbWj88y6tGutGdG9zJs-HPxuEacpalRw7urxhAgqf2kxV4aj1DGdQq3_cPtPgjLZHbZoeJalNtKosUhH4ZS6XR8xhsz7hzZrOddy_-AVooYLwGnkaeBZ50zKMpGuh7dXkhxVZc_gucROJCB5buvd50/w640-h350/guidance_table.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Illustration from&lt;a href=&quot;https://8ballreferee.com.au/category/international-eight-ball-rules-guide/&quot;&gt; International 8 Ball Referee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I searched for several of these terms as either &lt;i&gt;balk &lt;/i&gt;or &lt;i&gt;baulk &lt;/i&gt;in &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/glowbe/&quot;&gt;Corpus of Global Web-Based English&lt;/a&gt; and got only the &lt;b&gt;u&lt;/b&gt; spelling—with none of them in AmE:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYqB-Hmc3G75QVwgaV_kF9Gp1HXHzkjxQqXp1UkXCJxB5ls4w1ifKNWi6MWtSiyxniojpn-1Jjq3hinmrUmlBLkYtKAZRP6R5p8OSMvwwVGPZKx8zMNr6WWi-JpdbTC4o4HHhHRWiHZRrrVGlPgM9WIe2HJVStEVzpV-cz9USE8p_Xd5oIePmK/s1320/Screenshot%202025-06-10%20at%2000.15.55.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Corpus of Global Web-Based English results showing 16 UK hits for baulk line and 4 for baulk cushion, but no hits for either in US.&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;484&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1320&quot; height=&quot;234&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYqB-Hmc3G75QVwgaV_kF9Gp1HXHzkjxQqXp1UkXCJxB5ls4w1ifKNWi6MWtSiyxniojpn-1Jjq3hinmrUmlBLkYtKAZRP6R5p8OSMvwwVGPZKx8zMNr6WWi-JpdbTC4o4HHhHRWiHZRrrVGlPgM9WIe2HJVStEVzpV-cz9USE8p_Xd5oIePmK/w640-h234/Screenshot%202025-06-10%20at%2000.15.55.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.britannica.com/topic/balkline-billiards#ref41925&quot;&gt;Britannica.com&lt;/a&gt; has it as &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;balk&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;. &lt;/i&gt;They&#39;re owned by the same company as Merriam-Webster. Is the ghost of Noah W. removing U&#39;s in the encyclop[a]edia?)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, in general, if it&#39;s a [billiards] noun, it&#39;s &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;baulk&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; and if it&#39;s a verb it&#39;s &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;balk&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;. They both come from the same Old English word, with a Germanic ancestor. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The one other &lt;i&gt;-aulk&lt;/i&gt; word in current English is &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;caulk&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; (used much more in AmE than BrE, which tends to say &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;seal&lt;/b&gt;/&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;sealant&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;instead)—but that came into English with the &lt;b&gt;u&lt;/b&gt;, as it came from French &lt;i&gt;cauquer&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt; &lt;/b&gt;in the 1500s. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The post-Norman urge to stick a U in &lt;i&gt;balk&lt;/i&gt; also affected &lt;i&gt;talk &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;stalk &lt;/i&gt;in the 1600s, but not, apparently &lt;i&gt;walk&lt;/i&gt;.  For me, the mystery is: why has the urge to stick a U in persisted for &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;baulk&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; and not the others?  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;----&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;*I say &#39;another&#39; instance of spelling change due to perceptions of &#39;Americanism&#39; because I discuss the main instance of that phenomenon in detail in &lt;i&gt;The Prodigal Tongue&lt;/i&gt;: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjg845FHE73YQRT77nnq1NDT3YYEcrc1bPGBlkjrNeJ1brCoVdOQPctFN70VObc16p0mPTDeBpF7TfOl6AyuwSVzP5_0Web0FlPC6RtQOqzqSu1vVFTGXEKXKWKhg3pWjHyG9AmbNzKGhrnu6y7kOzV9tI83wYUdDGULixpdzVqjJPch_T8s4z3/s916/Screenshot%202025-06-09%20at%2023.37.03.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;176&quot; data-original-width=&quot;916&quot; height=&quot;122&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjg845FHE73YQRT77nnq1NDT3YYEcrc1bPGBlkjrNeJ1brCoVdOQPctFN70VObc16p0mPTDeBpF7TfOl6AyuwSVzP5_0Web0FlPC6RtQOqzqSu1vVFTGXEKXKWKhg3pWjHyG9AmbNzKGhrnu6y7kOzV9tI83wYUdDGULixpdzVqjJPch_T8s4z3/w640-h122/Screenshot%202025-06-09%20at%2023.37.03.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;InterVariable, system-ui, -apple-system, &amp;quot;system-ui&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Segoe UI&amp;quot;, Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, &amp;quot;Apple Color Emoji&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Segoe UI Emoji&amp;quot;&quot; style=&quot;color: #0b0f14; font-variant-ligatures: no-contextual; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;(And I&#39;m going to leave that complicated situation/history for readers of the book. Or listeners to it!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;InterVariable, system-ui, -apple-system, &amp;quot;system-ui&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Segoe UI&amp;quot;, Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, &amp;quot;Apple Color Emoji&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Segoe UI Emoji&amp;quot;&quot; style=&quot;color: #0b0f14; font-variant-ligatures: no-contextual; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;InterVariable, system-ui, -apple-system, &amp;quot;system-ui&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Segoe UI&amp;quot;, Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, &amp;quot;Apple Color Emoji&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Segoe UI Emoji&amp;quot;&quot; style=&quot;color: #274e13; font-variant-ligatures: no-contextual; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;===POSTSCRIPT 12 APRIL 2026===&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-variant-ligatures: no-contextual; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;I can&#39;t imagine when I&#39;ll have enough billiards content to support another post, so I&#39;m just going to slide this item in.  The Wordle solution earlier this week was CAROM, a word I didn&#39;t know, though when I got thoroughly stuck, I managed to pull it from somewhere in my subconscious:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-variant-ligatures: no-contextual; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjFcAI3ibJTShKKNqzHRF03z63yoPnlthyhUml8QbRk9VVAzJD_O8mUTw1RVxT9wmPRgiFF52XXjVuFoNd_0tR8uLIfkFK0ISKvTOYC2FM9c5YehxTjTJpidBhMuhyphenhyphenDqdRp2QWE0_FuPGaHVZWcWufk8I9tcMChgwgL61u23as_ooMxANvHlNT/s2532/IMG_AC02CA01D3AD-1.jpeg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2532&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1170&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjFcAI3ibJTShKKNqzHRF03z63yoPnlthyhUml8QbRk9VVAzJD_O8mUTw1RVxT9wmPRgiFF52XXjVuFoNd_0tR8uLIfkFK0ISKvTOYC2FM9c5YehxTjTJpidBhMuhyphenhyphenDqdRp2QWE0_FuPGaHVZWcWufk8I9tcMChgwgL61u23as_ooMxANvHlNT/s320/IMG_AC02CA01D3AD-1.jpeg&quot; width=&quot;148&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Neil W emailed me to point out that this is a billiards term, which appears to be more American. The OED says of the noun:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;A stroke in Billiards; =&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;cross-reference&quot; data-tippy-content=&quot;The stroke otherwise called a cannon (cannon, n.¹ III.11). [1775–]&quot; href=&quot;https://www.oed.com/dictionary/carambole_n?tab=meaning_and_use#10164928&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #215fa6; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cross-reference-headword&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: bold; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;carambole&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;part-of-speech&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;n.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;; now also called&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;cross-reference&quot; data-tippy-content=&quot;Billiards, Snooker, etc. A stroke in which the cue ball is made to hit more than one ball successively. Cf. carambole, n. 2, carom, n. [1802–]&quot; href=&quot;https://www.oed.com/dictionary/cannon_n1?tab=meaning_and_use#10093172&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #215fa6; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;cross-reference-headword&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: bold; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;cannon&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;part-of-speech&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;n.&lt;span class=&quot;homograph-number&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; bottom: 0.7em; box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-language-override: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 0.75em; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;III.11&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;But the verb (&#39;To strike or glance and rebound&#39;) they mark as American, and the&amp;nbsp;Corpus of Global Web-Based English seems to bear this out:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjuhkoJM5By5DqX3diLeVTYROTzBwWO3WC26UNxZ0AQ0fXoqGRVwy1i57xOY8eqMla20d9WTYXCTFdK665yPmHBmwyFtAxH1Kj9kKy4s79pF-ArkG4n1I7K7KvHNz4A-aHOo_bOXXd0K7YazgxEAHsGuY4mhqCNfS0mrapHgnvYSV1TO23Qeoqz/s1028/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2021.36.41.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;556&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1028&quot; height=&quot;173&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjuhkoJM5By5DqX3diLeVTYROTzBwWO3WC26UNxZ0AQ0fXoqGRVwy1i57xOY8eqMla20d9WTYXCTFdK665yPmHBmwyFtAxH1Kj9kKy4s79pF-ArkG4n1I7K7KvHNz4A-aHOo_bOXXd0K7YazgxEAHsGuY4mhqCNfS0mrapHgnvYSV1TO23Qeoqz/s320/Screenshot%202026-04-12%20at%2021.36.41.png&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;InterVariable, system-ui, -apple-system, &amp;quot;system-ui&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Segoe UI&amp;quot;, Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, &amp;quot;Apple Color Emoji&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Segoe UI Emoji&amp;quot;&quot; style=&quot;color: #0b0f14; font-variant-ligatures: no-contextual; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/7420043112978933590/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/06/balk-and-baulk.html#comment-form' title='27 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/7420043112978933590'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/7420043112978933590'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/06/balk-and-baulk.html' title='balk and baulk'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiL8MbA-1LPEa6v3BYSZ0weiOPYmbOZbNkbWj88y6tGutGdG9zJs-HPxuEacpalRw7urxhAgqf2kxV4aj1DGdQq3_cPtPgjLZHbZoeJalNtKosUhH4ZS6XR8xhsz7hzZrOddy_-AVooYLwGnkaeBZ50zKMpGuh7dXkhxVZc_gucROJCB5buvd50/s72-w640-h350-c/guidance_table.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>27</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-4737314672458734062</id><published>2025-05-12T00:26:00.009+01:00</published><updated>2025-06-10T03:54:38.867+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="AusE"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="CanE"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="IrishE"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="numbers"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="NZE"/><title type='text'>tons, loads and heaps of </title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIbAlU1wZxMkkExA13rEmgCX8-71QONQy_y6o2CL8x7cXGIsL2kGelUSu2znj3TvGweu1G3mKQ2Lng4qUf6nnstrX1efCMSSNccAxaPVGTnwg0dslbVJuil7BMAn2A0HRDR3qBtv80950_YT6HMC4_8mYpU5-PwCNEQbMHBIVQlsjwnX2Kxnb4/s320/Harry_Enfield_-_Loadsamoney_cover_art.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;320&quot; data-original-width=&quot;311&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIbAlU1wZxMkkExA13rEmgCX8-71QONQy_y6o2CL8x7cXGIsL2kGelUSu2znj3TvGweu1G3mKQ2Lng4qUf6nnstrX1efCMSSNccAxaPVGTnwg0dslbVJuil7BMAn2A0HRDR3qBtv80950_YT6HMC4_8mYpU5-PwCNEQbMHBIVQlsjwnX2Kxnb4/s1600/Harry_Enfield_-_Loadsamoney_cover_art.jpg&quot; width=&quot;311&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Harry Enfield, &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loadsamoney&quot;&gt;Loadsamoney&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I belong to&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.helensword.com/writespace&quot;&gt;a fantastic international writing group&lt;/a&gt;. There, last week, I presented a paragraph that included&amp;nbsp;&quot;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;tons of&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;something&quot; (I can&#39;t actually remember what the noun was). A New Zealander in the group commented, &quot;I suppose we&#39;d say&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;heaps of&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Indeed.&amp;nbsp; Here are some imprecise, informal ways of expressing &#39;large quantities of&#39; in the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/glowbe/&quot;&gt;Corpus of Global Web-Based English&lt;/a&gt;. The darker the blue, the more characteristic that phrase is to that country:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7SQ05GfMw-lp0kvGRPnj8phaQAXFMODBShPSHmTEDpAnVL4JutTZ81ZyfqnxBRTSeX6k8nxK-loOq1W98GesQ-eDfsZK3S05-9KCfOqS66zkgKMos3K2a4X9Lr0FTAOEu_xrFWtqhGSAFF7Gb6P9Ija1yYRTCT7lFh961IgLMLUEKUDGE1FlM/s1162/Screenshot%202025-05-12%20at%2000.00.29.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;626&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1162&quot; height=&quot;344&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7SQ05GfMw-lp0kvGRPnj8phaQAXFMODBShPSHmTEDpAnVL4JutTZ81ZyfqnxBRTSeX6k8nxK-loOq1W98GesQ-eDfsZK3S05-9KCfOqS66zkgKMos3K2a4X9Lr0FTAOEu_xrFWtqhGSAFF7Gb6P9Ija1yYRTCT7lFh961IgLMLUEKUDGE1FlM/w640-h344/Screenshot%202025-05-12%20at%2000.00.29.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Or, here&#39;s a better, but not as pretty way to report these results, as number of occurrences per million words. This makes the numbers comparable across countries (since the individual country corpora are not all the same size).&amp;nbsp;Here are those figures for the three main expressions, with the numbers rounded.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
          
&lt;table&gt;&lt;thead&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;th&gt;expression&lt;/th&gt;
    &lt;th style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;US&lt;/th&gt;
    &lt;th style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;CA&lt;/th&gt;
    &lt;th style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;GB&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/th&gt;
    &lt;th style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;IE&lt;/th&gt;
    &lt;th style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;AU&lt;/th&gt;
    &lt;th style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;NZ&lt;/th&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/thead&gt;
&lt;tbody&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;tons of&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #01ffff;&quot;&gt;19&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #01ffff;&quot;&gt;17&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;8&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;7&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;7&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;7&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;loads of&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;5&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;5&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #01ffff;&quot;&gt;22&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #01ffff;&quot;&gt;22&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;9&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;10&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;heaps of&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;1&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;1&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;1&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #01ffff;&quot;&gt;10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #01ffff;&quot;&gt;11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;This is saying, for instance, that the American corpus has&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;tons of&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;at a rate of 19 times per million words of running text.&amp;nbsp; (For comparison, the phrase&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;a lot of&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is around 300 times per million in each country&#39;s corpus.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So, we can see that &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;tons of &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;is preferred in North America, &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;loads of &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;in the UK and Ireland, and Australia and New Zealand like &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;heaps of &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;but use&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;loads of &lt;/i&gt;at nearly the same rate as &lt;i&gt;heaps of&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bunches of&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;had less than 1 per million in all of the country corpora. It&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;seems to be more often literal in all countries—lots of bunches of grapes, flowers, or asparagus, and a few bunches&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;of people, websites, and, in one NZ example: &quot;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #e2ecf5; text-wrap-mode: nowrap;&quot;&gt;small&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #ccffcc; text-wrap-mode: nowrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;bunches&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #e2ecf5; text-wrap-mode: nowrap;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #ccffcc; text-wrap-mode: nowrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;of&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #e2ecf5; text-wrap-mode: nowrap;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;noisy wowsers trying to tell everybody else how to live their lives.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&#39;ve only shown you the first six countries in the corpus results. After that, we get into Asian and African countries where English is spoken. &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;T&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;ons of &lt;/i&gt;dominates most of those—but, at least in the African nations, more of those &lt;i&gt;tons of &lt;/i&gt;were literal tons of stuff, like rice or water. Of course, some of the &lt;i&gt;tons &lt;/i&gt;in the other countries will be literal tons too—but the difference between North American and the UK/IE/AU/NZ seems to be due to the figurative usage—as in &lt;i&gt;I have tons of friends/problems/blog posts.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Oxford English Dictionary&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;has not updated its entries for these words since their first publication, more than 100 years ago. But three of the four have been used for informal descriptions of large quantities since the 1600s, and the fourth is the most American one.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The informal usage of&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;tons&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is not listed in the OED&#39;s 1913 entry for &lt;i&gt;ton&lt;/i&gt;, though it does list several colloquial uses where &lt;i&gt;ton &lt;/i&gt;means 100 (e.g. as a darts score or £100). The first use of &lt;i&gt;tons of money &lt;/i&gt;in the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/coha/&quot;&gt;Corpus of Historical American English&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(COHA) is not until the 1920s. &lt;i&gt;Tons of stuff&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;shows up in the 1940s. Neither of those phrases is used much for decades after that, but the informal use of &lt;i&gt;tons&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;picks up quickly after the 1980s. In the COHA corpus (1800–, the top nouns after &lt;i&gt;tons of &lt;/i&gt;are &lt;i&gt;coal&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;steel &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;water&lt;/i&gt;, while in GloWBE (2013) they are &lt;i&gt;money,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;people &lt;/i&gt;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;carbon&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;And that, my friends, is the shortest blog post I&#39;ve written in a long time!&amp;nbsp; I await bunches of comments!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;PS&lt;/b&gt;: Maybe I should have done singulars as well as plurals, but I was worried about singular versions infecting the data. But when I checked the first 20 &lt;i&gt;a bunch of&lt;/i&gt;, only one was literal, so maybe not:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjzrvTO8KzbXgaI0Uj8XTOmC_iz_ewI8BfNpPUsfMWrTvpQWTSrGwqPUzF59kHilAwFRcF0KK7m2XlWgwUHAQvb6b52YnKYV89gDmjU0ooT4Vesrh0a_2uz_zEDmaZr6jz0qmhitQDJfh9p6NUA_sB5h57lad6eYpuUgcENcfmvYkBw1w-bps6A/s1326/Screenshot%202025-05-31%20at%2020.33.00.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;672&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1326&quot; height=&quot;325&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjzrvTO8KzbXgaI0Uj8XTOmC_iz_ewI8BfNpPUsfMWrTvpQWTSrGwqPUzF59kHilAwFRcF0KK7m2XlWgwUHAQvb6b52YnKYV89gDmjU0ooT4Vesrh0a_2uz_zEDmaZr6jz0qmhitQDJfh9p6NUA_sB5h57lad6eYpuUgcENcfmvYkBw1w-bps6A/w640-h325/Screenshot%202025-05-31%20at%2020.33.00.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;And, of course, I should have looked up the BrE spelling&amp;nbsp;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;tonne&lt;/b&gt;, but there are fewer of those:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiM6m86AIOhMaV_9PVqm-DV3nK1MlPRKhP3t0zyvhMPSxnAuhBXDFCwZElbR2FMvC1bfWAZnJVypqdV9qZqmQ4PcQV1uh3MqLXF8ksHK6jb_M3HBE8-TriSrEWaNDGxO-Pf5ltYWRtXcAmmS8ZYrxvi_KkwMB5U-nEbH0sVPXbhFyK5KM0rMM44/s1206/Screenshot%202025-05-31%20at%2020.39.14.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;630&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1206&quot; height=&quot;334&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiM6m86AIOhMaV_9PVqm-DV3nK1MlPRKhP3t0zyvhMPSxnAuhBXDFCwZElbR2FMvC1bfWAZnJVypqdV9qZqmQ4PcQV1uh3MqLXF8ksHK6jb_M3HBE8-TriSrEWaNDGxO-Pf5ltYWRtXcAmmS8ZYrxvi_KkwMB5U-nEbH0sVPXbhFyK5KM0rMM44/w640-h334/Screenshot%202025-05-31%20at%2020.39.14.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;And sh*load(s) of has come up in the comments, so you can see here that &lt;i&gt;shedload&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is pretty British:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi05RJOy_DvN3z0lO-6erp4UK1ZdDj_KhuO3EloQr89j2Hm3Qoo6dxZU-KpyNVp9tyg9C-0Qr_VeGeZWM8uOpy5cHH7kJb0NeCjj_6LLpwb9WpEqHTVmKcdYpTmAcTyNuN8iJhQWQXJ29v4aH1AHO6-uHJ3HbiAf6_Oixl2pW8owXHhD5XeNHzx/s1114/Screenshot%202025-05-31%20at%2020.41.20.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;978&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1114&quot; height=&quot;562&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi05RJOy_DvN3z0lO-6erp4UK1ZdDj_KhuO3EloQr89j2Hm3Qoo6dxZU-KpyNVp9tyg9C-0Qr_VeGeZWM8uOpy5cHH7kJb0NeCjj_6LLpwb9WpEqHTVmKcdYpTmAcTyNuN8iJhQWQXJ29v4aH1AHO6-uHJ3HbiAf6_Oixl2pW8owXHhD5XeNHzx/w640-h562/Screenshot%202025-05-31%20at%2020.41.20.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;PPS: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://bsky.app/profile/grahburton.bsky.social/post/3loxfmtbrvc2n&quot;&gt;Over on Bluesky, Graham Burton shared some relevant tables &lt;/a&gt;with data from the British National Corpus, from his co-authored book &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.candlinandmynard.com/englishgrammar.html&quot;&gt;The Big Beasts of English Grammar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/4737314672458734062/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/05/tons-loads-and-heaps-of.html#comment-form' title='23 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/4737314672458734062'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/4737314672458734062'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/05/tons-loads-and-heaps-of.html' title='tons, loads and heaps of '/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIbAlU1wZxMkkExA13rEmgCX8-71QONQy_y6o2CL8x7cXGIsL2kGelUSu2znj3TvGweu1G3mKQ2Lng4qUf6nnstrX1efCMSSNccAxaPVGTnwg0dslbVJuil7BMAn2A0HRDR3qBtv80950_YT6HMC4_8mYpU5-PwCNEQbMHBIVQlsjwnX2Kxnb4/s72-c/Harry_Enfield_-_Loadsamoney_cover_art.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>23</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-8466649994050764439</id><published>2025-04-19T13:19:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2025-04-19T13:32:09.954+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="race/ethnicity"/><title type='text'>Anglo-Saxon</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;The first thing that made me want to write about &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Anglo-Saxon &lt;/i&gt;was my experience of French exchange students using the term to mean &#39;anglophone, English-speaking&#39;. I&#39;d warn them against the term, stating (but perhaps not explaining) that it is inaccurate and has connotations they didn&#39;t intend in British/American English. (So here comes the explanation.) The second thing is that I&#39;ve been writing about the history of English and have chosen to mostly refer to &lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon &lt;/i&gt;rather than &lt;i&gt;Old English&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;and I&#39;m thinking about that choice&lt;i&gt;. &lt;/i&gt;The third thing is that Dave Wilton (who writes the fantastic&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.wordorigins.org/&quot;&gt;Word Origins newsletter&lt;/a&gt;) published a paper in 2020 on the topic that&#39;s been on my &lt;a href=&quot;https://wonderfullybookish.co.uk/tbr-list-pros-cons/&quot;&gt;TBR&lt;/a&gt; pile for a while—so writing this post provided me with an excuse to take the time for it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon&lt;/i&gt; v &lt;i&gt;Old English&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Let me address my second thing first: Why would I want to call the &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_English&quot;&gt;Germanic pre-Norman conquest language/dialects of Britain&lt;/a&gt; (5th–11th century)&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Anglo-Saxon &lt;/i&gt;when the name &lt;i&gt;Old English&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;feels more transparent? It&#39;s English! But it&#39;s Old!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;It&#39;s that transparency that I want to resist. The name &lt;i&gt;Old English &lt;/i&gt;makes it sound like it&#39;s the same language as we speak, just an older form. But we really have to question whether it is the same language at all. Yes, I would count Modern English as a Germanic language derived from that previous language, but the fallout of the Norman conquest so thoroughly changed English that it stopped being &#39;the same language&#39;. The grammar is different, the vocabulary is different, the pronunciation is unfamiliar, the words that have survived often mean very different things today. As this Tiktoker says, you don&#39;t need footnotes, you need a translation:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; class=&quot;BLOG_video_class&quot; height=&quot;266&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/_qoqCaQ39Ps&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; youtube-src-id=&quot;_qoqCaQ39Ps&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Confusingly, it&#39;s common to hear people refer to &lt;i&gt;old English&lt;/i&gt; (or &lt;i&gt;Old English&lt;/i&gt;?) in reference to Shakespearean English—or even Dickensian.&amp;nbsp;The film director Robert Eggers, whose forthcoming film &lt;i&gt;Werwulf&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is in Middle English, has been fighting a battle against this kind of misuse:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiVXdHTy9aGcqmmByMrXxAdpUMpcE3Zd5lvWnTfcOWXsMlfGYOLPeY9ruYHlfjTOELX9p3Ui0XnNI1vBV-TCVnGShgprdAaJ0vvsLYwqX2Q_6n-jRoE4M8B3M3fi-4fNCgc6cXUN8ADCmUMuiWh5q6vm_bfGvupO_NzllWdNtxxBWaeLmLdy5Qm/s912/Screenshot%202025-04-18%20at%2012.37.32.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Film Crave‬ ‪@filmcrave.bsky.social‬ · 8d Robert Eggers has revealed that the dialogue in his upcoming film #Werwulf will be entirely in Middle English:   « It’s been said, and taken as official, that the movie is in Old English. But obviously, because of the 13th-century setting, it’s Middle English. I just want to be clear on that. »&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;676&quot; data-original-width=&quot;912&quot; height=&quot;474&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiVXdHTy9aGcqmmByMrXxAdpUMpcE3Zd5lvWnTfcOWXsMlfGYOLPeY9ruYHlfjTOELX9p3Ui0XnNI1vBV-TCVnGShgprdAaJ0vvsLYwqX2Q_6n-jRoE4M8B3M3fi-4fNCgc6cXUN8ADCmUMuiWh5q6vm_bfGvupO_NzllWdNtxxBWaeLmLdy5Qm/w640-h474/Screenshot%202025-04-18%20at%2012.37.32.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;So, just to be clear, here are the periods of English, as usually defined:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;ca. 450AD/CE to 1150ish: Old English/Anglo-Saxon.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;from the Germanic invasions till the start of Middle English. This can be further divided into prehistoric (450–650), early (650–900) and late periods (900–1150). Beowulf is the most famous literary work from this time.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;1066 to 1500ish: Middle English&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;from the Norman (French) invasion&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-third-untranslatables-month-summary.html&quot;&gt;through&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; the &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift&quot;&gt;Great English Vowel Shift&lt;/a&gt;. This also has early and late periods. Chaucer&#39;s &lt;i&gt;Canterbury Tales&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is the most famous bit.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;1500ish to 1650ish:&amp;nbsp; Early Modern English&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shakespeare times. King James Bible times.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;1650ish to now: Late Modern English&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No more &lt;i&gt;thou&lt;/i&gt;, no more &lt;i&gt;hath&lt;/i&gt;, and lots more vocabulary thanks to industriali{s/z}ation and the spread of English worldwide.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;The dates should be taken as severely &quot;mushy,&quot; since change spread gradually through the Anglosphere—or through England and the British Isles, the limits of the Anglosphere for most of its history.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;So, that&#39;s one use of &lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon&lt;/i&gt;: to refer to the people, culture or language of the Germanic-speaking people of Britain before the 12th century. That&#39;s the most straightforward meaning.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxons &lt;/i&gt;= &lt;i&gt;English speakers&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;But the Anglo-Saxons didn&#39;t call themselves &lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon&lt;/i&gt;. That term didn&#39;t arrive till the 1600s. And it didn&#39;t get much traction until the 19th century. Here&#39;s a bit I wrote about it in&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;The Prodigal Tongue&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;At the height of the British Empire, English intellectuals were taken with the notion of an “Anglo-Saxon race”, tracing its roots to the Germanic peoples who settled in Britain after the Romans left in the 5th century. With self-satisfaction they concluded that their “race” was something special, illustrated by the strength of their culture over that of the conquered Celts, their early codification of individual rights with the Magna Carta in 1215, and their break with the Roman church in the 16th century. Belief in their own good example made appropriating other peoples’ lands much easier to justify – and Americans of English stock were happy to share in this myth. But by the 20th century, talk of an Anglo-Saxon race had fallen out of fashion, and instead of genetic inheritance, it was language that seemed to unite us. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Thus we started to be called the English-speaking peoples, a term used with particular influence by two statesmen-historians, Theodore Roosevelt in The Winning of the West and Winston Churchill in A History of the English-speaking Peoples. President and prime minister turned to this language-based description of “our peoples” because other possible descriptions had become impossible.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My French students were still using &lt;i&gt;the Anglo-Saxon race&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;to refer to &#39;the English-speaking peoples&#39;. One problem in using the term that way is that &quot;races&quot; allegedly have a common genetic heritage, and English-speakers don&#39;t. Many Americans cannot trace their ancestry back to England. We are a transatlantic linguistic group and we share some aspects of our cultures. But it&#39;s weird to call us a &lt;i&gt;race&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in contemporary English.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt; I had a look in the French Web corpus in &lt;a href=&quot;https://app.sketchengine.eu/&quot;&gt;SketchEngine&lt;/a&gt; (frTenTen23) and found some examples of the French usage, just so you can see what I&#39;m talking about (the blue bits are from Google Translate):&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;une politique audacieuse pour défendre la langue et la culture française qui se trouvent aujourd&#39;hui particulièrement menacées par l&#39;invasion de la langue anglaise et de &lt;b&gt;la culture anglo-saxonne&lt;/b&gt; .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #0b5394;&quot;&gt;a bold policy to defend the French language and culture, which are today particularly threatened by the invasion of the English language and A&lt;b&gt;nglo-Saxon culture&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;L&#39;hôpital a mis en place un concept qui vient des&lt;b&gt; pays anglo-saxons&lt;/b&gt; nommé &quot;Kids friendly&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #0b5394;&quot;&gt;The hospital has implemented a concept that comes from &lt;b&gt;Anglo-Saxon countries&lt;/b&gt; called &quot;Kids friendly&quot;.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;cette brutale franchise, qui caractérisent la race anglo-saxonne .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #0b5394;&quot;&gt;that brutal frankness, which characterizes the Anglo-Saxon race.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cette ardeur chrétienne est-elle particulière à &lt;b&gt;la&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;race anglo-saxonne&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #0b5394; font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Is this Christian ardo(u)r&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #0b5394; font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;peculiar to &lt;b&gt;the&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #0b5394; font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Anglo-Saxon race&lt;/b&gt;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;The Anglo-Saxon race-ism&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Meanwhile in the equivalent English corpus (enTenTen21), mentions of &quot;the Anglo-Saxon race&quot; are much more likely to be associated with white power movements and eugenics—a big reason I wanted to steer my French students away that phrase. For example:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&quot;The new Constitution eliminates the ignorant Negro vote and places the control of our government where God Almighty intended it should be – with the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Anglo-Saxon race&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;,&quot; John Knox, the president of the [Alabama] constitutional convention, said in a speech encouraging voters to ratify the document [in 1901] [&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://emergingcivilwar.com/2021/10/26/echoes-of-reconstruction-misusing-the-history-of-the-civil-war-era-in-drafting-alabamas-constitution/#:~:text=The%20Chairman%20of%20the%20fateful,the%20Anglo%2DSaxon%20race.%E2%80%9D&quot; style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;source&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Galton declared that the &quot;Bohemian&quot; element in the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;Anglo-Saxon race&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;is destined to perish, and &quot;the sooner it goes, the happier for mankind.&quot; [&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.infoplease.com/primary-sources/speeches-essays/womens-right&quot; style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;source&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;But this isn&#39;t a blog about French/English differences. It&#39;s a blog about differences in American and British English—and I had a feeling we&#39;d find differences in how &lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon &lt;/i&gt;is used in my two countries.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;WASP&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;I first learned the term &lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon &lt;/i&gt;as a child when I asked my mother about the AmE term &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Wasp &lt;/i&gt;or &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://sk.sagepub.com/ency/edvol/multicultural-america/chpt/wasps-white-anglo-saxon-protestants&quot;&gt;WASP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;The OED&#39;s first citation for that term comes from a sociology journal in 1962:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; font-size: 16px;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For the sake of brevity we will use the nickname &#39;Wasp&#39;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;&amp;quot;Open Sans&amp;quot;, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; font-size: 16px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;for this group, from the initial letters of ‘White Anglo-Saxon Protestants’.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;The OED notes that the term is &quot;originally and chiefly U.S.&quot; and &quot;frequently derogatory.&quot; The &lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in &lt;i&gt;Wasp&lt;/i&gt; is meant to distinguish certain white Americans: not the Irish, nor the Scots-Irish, not the Germans, not the Poles... When I hear &lt;i&gt;Wasp&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;I think (NAmE)&amp;nbsp; &quot;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_money&quot;&gt;old money&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&quot;, members of &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daughters_of_the_American_Revolution&quot;&gt;Daughters of the American Revolution&lt;/a&gt;, and people who claim to trace their ancestry back to the &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayflower&quot;&gt;Mayflower&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;It&#39;s hard to exclude the stinging insect when looking for &lt;i&gt;Wasp&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in a corpus, but &lt;i&gt;White Anglo-Saxon Protestant(s)&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;occurs about five times per decade in the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/coha/&quot;&gt;Corpus of Historical American English&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(COHA) between 1960 and 2000, and not at all in this century. That&#39;s not to say it&#39;s dead: there are 11 uses in AmE in the (much larger) &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/glowbe/&quot;&gt;Corpus of Global Web-Based English&lt;/a&gt;, collected in 2012–3.&amp;nbsp; According to the News on the Web corpus, that was a stand-out year for &lt;i&gt;white Anglo-Saxon protestant(s). &lt;/i&gt;The graph shows worldwide numbers. It occurs 8.7 times per million words in the American news corpus and 3.6 times per million in the British, usually in stories about the US.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhf2_ZpO6BrGSfrNkf-FCpNDtWjPfaWg_HB9lGD_m7TOhUyXMQ_pNateEKKUsb57l_xC7x7ey8nOGSo5zSRTf_KxwcgBtFki0SGXtE47m1XiSVYyGC1aLf6pMCtP_HUzd33W98UWbaBZEwN4UBm2aQ9eTYaD-niChL8KQAmBpdB2XulqJkNir9F/s2392/Screenshot%202025-04-18%20at%2018.38.10.png&quot; style=&quot;clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;820&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2392&quot; height=&quot;221&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhf2_ZpO6BrGSfrNkf-FCpNDtWjPfaWg_HB9lGD_m7TOhUyXMQ_pNateEKKUsb57l_xC7x7ey8nOGSo5zSRTf_KxwcgBtFki0SGXtE47m1XiSVYyGC1aLf6pMCtP_HUzd33W98UWbaBZEwN4UBm2aQ9eTYaD-niChL8KQAmBpdB2XulqJkNir9F/w640-h221/Screenshot%202025-04-18%20at%2018.38.10.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Three uses of &lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon &lt;/i&gt;in American and British corpora (Wilton 2020)&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;We&#39;ve seen a few meanings of &lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon &lt;/i&gt;here, and that&#39;s what Wilton investigates in his paper by going deeper into a number of corpora:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-caps: small-caps; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-indent: -32px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; Wilton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: -32px;&quot;&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-caps: small-caps; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; text-indent: -32px;&quot;&gt;David&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: -32px;&quot;&gt;. 2020. What Do We Mean By&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;text-indent: -32px;&quot;&gt;Anglo-Saxon?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: -32px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;Pre-Conquest to the Present.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;text-indent: -32px;&quot;&gt;The Journal of English and Germanic Philology&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: -32px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;119.425–454. doi:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://doi.org/10.5406/jenglgermphil.119.4.0425&quot; style=&quot;text-indent: -32px;&quot;&gt;10.5406/jenglgermphil.119.4.0425&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: -32px;&quot;&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Writing for philologists, he&#39;s concerned that trends in how the term is used in general English might be bad for use of the term in medieval studies. (For what it&#39;s worth, BrE style guides these days prefer&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;medieval&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;over&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;mediaeval.&lt;/i&gt;) Here, I&#39;m concerned just with whether there&#39;s a difference between British and American usage, what that&#39;s about, and whether there&#39;s risk of miscommunication between AmE &amp;amp; BrE.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wilton tracks three uses of &lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pre-Conquest&lt;/b&gt;: referring to the Germanic peoples of Britain before 1066&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Politicocultural&lt;/b&gt;: &quot;references to the politics, economics, and culture of present-day Britain, the United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, and especially the transnational characteristics that these nations share that are not explicitly ethnic or physiognomic.&quot; (p. 433)&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;So: like the French usage above.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ethnoracial&lt;/b&gt;: &quot;any use of Anglo-Saxon that is applied to an individual person; that refers to physiognomy, personal appearance, DNA or genetics or ancestry; or that contrasts Anglo-Saxon with another ethnic or racial group, as well as instances of the phrase&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;white Anglo-Saxon Protestant&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;and the acronym&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;WASP&lt;/i&gt;.&quot; (p. 433)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;csl-bib-body&quot; style=&quot;line-height: 1.35; margin-left: 2em; text-indent: -2em;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;csl-entry&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;csl-entry&quot;&gt;Using those three categories, Wilton analy{s/z}ed use of &lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in the COHA corpus:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;csl-entry&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;csl-entry&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifViwJ7IrvqQEICwoy2z3mpr_yT8l3xdFQI7zkVcLMDy-1hZQk4tJ6Z492vFHtlWk06ftWGKym8Z6AT568uYu2xrkWvVBIvTva5plufRaXqu6m51JoVXKuMX5xXtJvKPwhTaSAguebtVjrubGy4NvGONwe4-QXGaW1NTEsNUucpVbpjeO-s3vA/s1094/Screenshot%202025-04-18%20at%2012.07.15.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;650&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1094&quot; height=&quot;380&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifViwJ7IrvqQEICwoy2z3mpr_yT8l3xdFQI7zkVcLMDy-1hZQk4tJ6Z492vFHtlWk06ftWGKym8Z6AT568uYu2xrkWvVBIvTva5plufRaXqu6m51JoVXKuMX5xXtJvKPwhTaSAguebtVjrubGy4NvGONwe4-QXGaW1NTEsNUucpVbpjeO-s3vA/w640-h380/Screenshot%202025-04-18%20at%2012.07.15.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;He notes the increase around the turn of the 20th century, when &quot;immigration from Southern Europe peaked, Jim Crow laws were instituted, lionization of the Confederacy and the &#39;lost cause&#39; began, and membership in the Ku Klux Klan reached its height&quot; but that the use is still mostly not making reference to Anglo-Saxons as a &quot;race&quot; with physical characteristics at this point (p. 443). He supposes that this might be because whiteness is such a default at this time in American thinking that there&#39;s less need to be racially specific. The Ethnoracial usage becomes dominant after 1970, in a period that, Wilton notes, is marked by &quot;white flight&quot; to the suburbs. (By 1970,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965&quot;&gt;immigration laws had liberalized&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and there had been a &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migration_(African_American)&quot;&gt;Great Migration&lt;/a&gt;&quot; of African Americans from the rural south to northern urban cent{er/re}s.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;There is no British equivalent to the COHA corpus (a real shame), so Wilton had a look in the parliamentary record to see British use of &lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in the same period. It&#39;s not (as he acknowledges) a fair comparison, but it is interesting:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhDdmRE7ZE8F8Eh6BBfLWv-x0jo5OdB9nb-5eeRqW7h8lZbsKcJVtpJoEIgXMSLMmGZKPbFKNeMWy9Rofi0uUrjqJEAUhqUUHFPhY9yCyhBfXUX6TRwqzPAkmIjVwdYQkZI9aw6HaS-yTwBCYA0lSZ1N1yMSyneZ047p7t8qBhwYk_QY3JWkZPN/s1040/Screenshot%202025-04-18%20at%2012.07.25.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;584&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1040&quot; height=&quot;360&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhDdmRE7ZE8F8Eh6BBfLWv-x0jo5OdB9nb-5eeRqW7h8lZbsKcJVtpJoEIgXMSLMmGZKPbFKNeMWy9Rofi0uUrjqJEAUhqUUHFPhY9yCyhBfXUX6TRwqzPAkmIjVwdYQkZI9aw6HaS-yTwBCYA0lSZ1N1yMSyneZ047p7t8qBhwYk_QY3JWkZPN/w640-h360/Screenshot%202025-04-18%20at%2012.07.25.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;He notes that the ethnoracial uses in parliament are mostly about distinguishing the English from the Irish, Welsh and Scots at the national level. I want to know: why are British parliamentarians talking about ancient times so much in the 70s and 80s? I had a quick dip in to the corpus and found reference to Anglo-Saxon law and &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hoards_in_Great_Britain&quot;&gt;Anglo-Saxon hoards&lt;/a&gt;. It could be that &lt;i&gt;Old English&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;or other descriptors were used more before—but it also looks like there were various arch(a)eological finds post-1970 that might have led to more discussion of antiquities in parliament. But I don&#39;t really know.&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Moving on to more recent times, here&#39;s what Wilton found in the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/coca/&quot;&gt;Corpus of Contemporary American English &lt;/a&gt;(COCA):&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiNscok5NJBOg4hq-itPg61w_paZHAPj2ZHj3CDGZcozmm54aTv0M05S4QSWCn6X8hl72FJBBkcP04bOmOo7k7kZdk8hyphenhyphenfrsUBwnbP0Kic_5nj17sW6iiYHgOsZfpJujvYp01_LXuLf2Einc0gf_QR3uvMQhR6EXJIBehmIZx9dhyPfJGgMHYjw/s1180/Screenshot%202025-04-18%20at%2012.17.40.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;558&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1180&quot; height=&quot;302&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiNscok5NJBOg4hq-itPg61w_paZHAPj2ZHj3CDGZcozmm54aTv0M05S4QSWCn6X8hl72FJBBkcP04bOmOo7k7kZdk8hyphenhyphenfrsUBwnbP0Kic_5nj17sW6iiYHgOsZfpJujvYp01_LXuLf2Einc0gf_QR3uvMQhR6EXJIBehmIZx9dhyPfJGgMHYjw/w640-h302/Screenshot%202025-04-18%20at%2012.17.40.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Ethnoracial usage dominates.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Again, we don&#39;t have a good comparison corpus for British English, but the findings from the British National Corpus (texts from 1980–93) look like this:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwHYxKOivdsZVe8zC_EyW1K3ZOyCfAVmEPrpLsMy-L6HZ_K9BJtKCzdP5H6uJaTQfj1tLwPo0pA4dPuoOHCat3CW523YNQicciOrUy7yNzADbZTtLwQkD0xY_Lp-RiuFtqvttNY4MY9XmvanlACioHDsxRBfBQCmac1MTEl92HRh31oUSfgpw2/s1114/Screenshot%202025-04-18%20at%2012.17.51.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;464&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1114&quot; height=&quot;266&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwHYxKOivdsZVe8zC_EyW1K3ZOyCfAVmEPrpLsMy-L6HZ_K9BJtKCzdP5H6uJaTQfj1tLwPo0pA4dPuoOHCat3CW523YNQicciOrUy7yNzADbZTtLwQkD0xY_Lp-RiuFtqvttNY4MY9XmvanlACioHDsxRBfBQCmac1MTEl92HRh31oUSfgpw2/w640-h266/Screenshot%202025-04-18%20at%2012.17.51.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Wilton followed up with the News on the Web corpus, which is more comparable across countries, comparing two short periods in each, 2012–13 and 2017–18.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgVwrq-zgl_9bx2EyuFHbiRPRohw51Gls1MoLzWi_9ZmuVWvKTVsFaGjKujEjRMr-fWr40P7L8XfMmfoC3Ta9yQ4QODBLdpRw1jJsIRYe963lt9SWwZuIqoTXxx7mg-oWzEJMY41rB9dqBYbHclZFcs2WWWXlFQuVKOwN63ePZ0H-CilbtW7ty8/s1168/Screenshot%202025-04-19%20at%2011.59.17.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;770&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1168&quot; height=&quot;422&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgVwrq-zgl_9bx2EyuFHbiRPRohw51Gls1MoLzWi_9ZmuVWvKTVsFaGjKujEjRMr-fWr40P7L8XfMmfoC3Ta9yQ4QODBLdpRw1jJsIRYe963lt9SWwZuIqoTXxx7mg-oWzEJMY41rB9dqBYbHclZFcs2WWWXlFQuVKOwN63ePZ0H-CilbtW7ty8/w640-h422/Screenshot%202025-04-19%20at%2011.59.17.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;(As you can see, he&#39;s also analy{s/z}ed Canada, which has its own patterns, and which I&#39;m not covering here because that&#39;s not my beat. But do follow up with Wilton&#39;s paper if you&#39;re interested.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So both countries have all the uses, but the UK has a lot more Pre-Conquest usage, which is not at all surprising, since you run into Pre-Conquest things in the place that was conquered—less so in the place later conquered by some people from the place that was conquered.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;More notable is the division of ethnoracial versus politicocultural usage in the two countries.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Britain, there&#39;s either even (BNC, 1980–93) distribution of ethnoracial and politicocultural or lots more politicocultural (NOW, 2010s). Wilton writes:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;One might have expected an increase in the ethnoracial uses of “Anglo-Saxon” [in the UK] since the advent of the Brexit era, but the data shows this not to be the case. Any impression otherwise is probably due to increased awareness of ethnoracial uses of the term. In other words, people are only now noticing the uses that have always been there or are now reading ethnic connotations into the term that they had not before.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Wilton goes on to show that politicocultural interpretations dominate in other English-speaking nations, except the US and Canada, where the proportion of ethnoracial uses is around half of total uses and seems to be increasing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In &lt;i&gt;The Prodigal Tongue&lt;/i&gt;, I quote the late &lt;i&gt;Guardian &lt;/i&gt;columnist &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jan/06/simon-hoggart-obituary&quot;&gt;Simon Hoggart&lt;/a&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;A wise American reporter based in London once told me that&amp;nbsp;every British news story is, deep down, about class. Every&amp;nbsp;American story, he said, is about race.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;Our linguistic differences often support that impression.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So, in terms of mutual understanding, I would expect that Americans seeing BrE use of &lt;i&gt;Anglo-Saxon&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;might easily take an ethnoracial impression where a politicocultural one is intended, since AmE use is heavily skewed toward that meaning and vice versa. The differences between these two uses are sometimes hard to pick apart—Wilton acknowledges that he sometimes found ambiguity in his data and needed to pick a side for the analysis. And that makes them even more apt to fly under our &quot;semantic difference radar&quot;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/8466649994050764439/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/04/anglo-saxon.html#comment-form' title='29 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/8466649994050764439'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/8466649994050764439'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/04/anglo-saxon.html' title='Anglo-Saxon'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://img.youtube.com/vi/_qoqCaQ39Ps/default.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>29</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-1636254166166398694</id><published>2025-03-17T15:06:00.007+00:00</published><updated>2025-03-22T12:08:56.390+00:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="food/cooking"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="verbs"/><title type='text'>recipe verbs</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;When I first moved to the UK, I hungrily watched the (orig. AmE) &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;tv&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; in my sublet &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/04/semi-detached-duplex-and-other-houses.html&quot;&gt;apartment/flat&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;in an attempt to acculturate myself. I can&#39;t remember if it was on an &lt;b&gt;ad(vert)&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;or on an early series of &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Chef&quot;&gt;The Naked Chef&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, but I clearly remember the sentence:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Just &lt;b&gt;bung it under the grill!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I already knew &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;grill&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;(=AmE &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;broiler&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;) from my time in South Africa. It was &lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;b&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;ung&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; (meaning something like &#39;put forcibly, carelessly&#39;) that struck me. It seemed such an unattractive word, and yet it was being used about some food that was supposed to be wonderful after the bunging. Was this telling me something about British attitudes to food and cooking? Was it supposed to make the dish-making seem so sloppy anyone could do it? The questions clearly stuck in my mind, because the phrase has stayed with me for 25 years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bung&lt;/i&gt; was the first thing to come to mind when &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/724046/more-than-words-by-maryellen-macdonald-phd/&quot;&gt;Maryellen Macdonald&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote to me:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #222222; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;You have a long post about cooking word differences, but I don’t think it contains a discussion of “add” vs. “tip”. US recipes say things like “&lt;b&gt;add&lt;/b&gt; the carrots” to the pan, whereas UK recipes say “&lt;b&gt;tip in&lt;/b&gt; the carrots”. &amp;nbsp;My husband, the better cook in the household, asked me, “What do they mean tip the carrots? They’re cut up!” Hmm, maybe this little observation-ette isn’t quite sufficient for a post, but, perhaps you can use it somewhere.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#39;m not sure which cooking-word difference post she was thinking of, since &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/search/label/food%2Fcooking&quot;&gt;there are LOTS of them.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;But it made me think about &quot;recipe verbs&quot;. Words like &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;bung&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;tip&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;are not necessarily cooking words—you can bung or tip a lot of things. But they are the kinds of words one finds in recipes or cooking &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;programmes/shows&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I started asking my friends for other recipe-verb differences they had noticed. One friend (thanks, David!) pointed me to this parody cooking series, &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posh_Nosh&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Posh Nosh&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, in which Richard E. Grant and Arabella Weir are minor aristocracy with an upscale restaurant brand. This particular nine-minute episode includes many great (fake) cooking verbs, instructing you to &lt;i&gt;interrogate&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(clean?) then later to &lt;i&gt;thrill open&lt;/i&gt; your mussels, to &lt;i&gt;pillage &lt;/i&gt;some bones&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;and to &quot;gently &lt;i&gt;gush&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;[some AmE&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2011/02/prototypical-soup.html&quot;&gt;broth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;/BrE &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2011/02/prototypical-soup.html&quot;&gt;stock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;] until it completely &lt;i&gt;obsesses&lt;/i&gt; the rice.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; class=&quot;BLOG_video_class&quot; height=&quot;266&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/l8OTdONxT9s&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; youtube-src-id=&quot;l8OTdONxT9s&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;My friends weren&#39;t great at coming up with verb differences. (Several nouns were suggested.) Thank you to Ben, Björn, David, Jason, Michèle, Wendi for their suggestions. To complement these, I ended up doing an Advanced Search in the&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Oxford English Dictionary&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;for region-marked cooking verbs. This post then got stupidly long and AmE biased; the OED is not good at marking words that are general to British English but not to North American.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For the following, I am marking things as AmE or BrE if either the OED&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;or corpus results fairly firmly put the verb on one side of the Atlantic or the other. But you might know some of the &quot;the other country&#39;s&quot; words, especially if you ingest a lot of recipes and cooking programmes/shows. These things have been moving rapidly with mass media.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Some actual cooking verbs&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div&gt;Let&#39;s get the actual cooking verbs out of the way—some of these I&#39;ve written about before:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;AmE &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;broil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;v BrE &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;grill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is (part of) the topic &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/05/roiling-and-broiling.html&quot;&gt;one of my first blog posts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Also:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;AmE &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;charbroil&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;= cook over charcoal (not very frequent, more common in the modifier form &lt;i&gt;charbroiled&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;AmE &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;panbroil&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;= cook [meat/fish] in pan with very little fat&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;AmE &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;grill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;v BrE &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;toast&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/i&gt;comes up in a long post about&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2008/04/toasty-and-toastie.html&quot;&gt;cheese sandwiches (BrE &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;toasties&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;AmE &lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;grill&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/b&gt;v BrE &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;barbecue&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/i&gt;comes up in &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2010/07/war-of-independencerevolutionary-war.html&quot;&gt;a post from the 4th of July&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;orig. AmE &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;nuke&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;amp; &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;zap&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;(informal) to microwave&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;orig. AmE&amp;nbsp;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;pot-roast&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;to slow-cook meat (esp. beef) in a covered pot/dish&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;orig. AmE&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;stir-fry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(but this has been in BrE for most of your lifetimes)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;AmE&amp;nbsp;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;plank&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;From OED: &quot;Originally and chiefly&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;North American&lt;/i&gt;. To prepare (meat, fish, etc.) by cooking it on a board over an open fire; (in later use) to cook on a board in an oven&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;AmE&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;shirr&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;to poach (e.g. an egg) in cream rather than water. (I knew the word, but not what it meant!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;orig. AmE&amp;nbsp;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;flip&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;Not really a &lt;i&gt;recipe&lt;/i&gt; verb, but...from the OED:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;definition&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: 400; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;grammar&quot; color=&quot;inherit&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;transitive&lt;/span&gt;. Originally and chiefly&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; color=&quot;inherit&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;U.S.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;To cook (items of food) by turning over on a hotplate, grill, or griddle. Now typically with the implication that the subject has a job in a fast-food restaurant (chiefly in&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;lemma&quot; color=&quot;inherit&quot; id=&quot;53756596&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: bold; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;to flip burgers&lt;/span&gt;).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Some verbs that are often used to modify food words&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2020/10/roasted.html&quot;&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;roast &lt;/i&gt;v &lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2020/10/roasted.html&quot;&gt;roasted&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;(of potatoes, chickens, etc.)—that post also mentions &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/09/salt-beef-corned-beef.html&quot;&gt;corn/corned beef&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, which has another post.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2008/04/milk-and-tea.html&quot;&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;skim &lt;/i&gt;v &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;skimmed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;(of milk)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/09/salt-beef-corned-beef.html&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;minced/ground&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;mashed&lt;/span&gt; &amp;amp; &lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;smashed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&amp;nbsp; I&#39;ve written about &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/07/countmass-nouns-potato-egg-tax-sport.html&quot; style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;mashed potato(es)&lt;/a&gt;, which BrE can call just &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;mash &lt;/i&gt;(now we&#39;re back into nouns). A related AmE verbal adjective is &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;smashed&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;/i&gt;In the&amp;nbsp;Corpus of Global Web-Based English (2013), North Americans have the collocation &lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;smashed potato(es)&lt;/b&gt;; there are none in the British data. The distinction between &lt;i&gt;mashed &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;smashed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is that a smashed potato is less thoroughly mashed—it will still have some (orig. AmE) &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;chunks&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;of potato in it—and may well include the potato skins.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These days, you definitely see &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;smashed &lt;/i&gt;on BrE menus—sometimes in front of &lt;i&gt;potato&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;but much more often in front of &lt;i&gt;avocado&lt;/i&gt;. This Google ngrams graph shows that &lt;i&gt;smashed avocado &lt;/i&gt;(blue line)&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;surpassed &lt;i&gt;mashed avocado &lt;/i&gt;(green line) in UK books around 2019, but the phrase has not taken off in the US (red line) in the same way, where people just talk about&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt; &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;avocado toast&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;without an adjective. (You hear that in BrE too, but it&#39;s not as prominent as in AmE.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhP6Yz7KdPeKjJrVnHoFczwE1T6MbXyMNNuwQ_r2lerGxEk-QJaEu875bQq16Edy2y-15XEPWu0UnR8F8rRP7InTw879kl1gAcEN_3qo3wlu0-O3QzJTNjnG418ACxQNLx5yGgrIOfpQz1bJgbKIXjrgTPLaDk1wUB9GkKhS7rD0PHEftfuH8C7/s2030/Screenshot%202025-03-09%20at%2016.32.02.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;728&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2030&quot; height=&quot;230&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhP6Yz7KdPeKjJrVnHoFczwE1T6MbXyMNNuwQ_r2lerGxEk-QJaEu875bQq16Edy2y-15XEPWu0UnR8F8rRP7InTw879kl1gAcEN_3qo3wlu0-O3QzJTNjnG418ACxQNLx5yGgrIOfpQz1bJgbKIXjrgTPLaDk1wUB9GkKhS7rD0PHEftfuH8C7/w640-h230/Screenshot%202025-03-09%20at%2016.32.02.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Verbs of placing&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;These are the ones we started with here. They&#39;re needed in recipes, but not exclusive to them:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;BrE&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;bung&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;: to put forcibly, without delicacy. It&#39;s very informal word, but that goes with the vibe of a lot of British cooking shows. The closest equivalents are probably &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;stick &lt;/i&gt;or&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;throw&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;(both General English), as in &lt;i&gt;stick/throw it in the oven/pan&lt;/i&gt;, but &lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;bung &lt;/b&gt;feels the most informal and dismissive of the bunch. Here are some Google Image results for &quot;bung it in the oven&quot;, which show the phrase applied to simple, quick recipes and the people who cook them:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjlt6ly3VOENgn3F-mTsxpylcUpRa-Avku_YlAwkYlrlPzH8LNepRG0Y_Hmxr45RFgGdljr3uXvTSkEDtkb7rygaqW5fn5mZbBIt2JfaLCFQziBtXG0XwMbr2T5LoPfWcOL_loz4B_CRhZDuZEj9RcqavgsNGwAvnCeY6Xqw5_1KzA3Oo2C7-BS/s2106/Screenshot%202025-03-09%20at%2016.40.34.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;828&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2106&quot; height=&quot;253&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjlt6ly3VOENgn3F-mTsxpylcUpRa-Avku_YlAwkYlrlPzH8LNepRG0Y_Hmxr45RFgGdljr3uXvTSkEDtkb7rygaqW5fn5mZbBIt2JfaLCFQziBtXG0XwMbr2T5LoPfWcOL_loz4B_CRhZDuZEj9RcqavgsNGwAvnCeY6Xqw5_1KzA3Oo2C7-BS/w640-h253/Screenshot%202025-03-09%20at%2016.40.34.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;BrE &lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;tip&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;in&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;means, essentially &#39;pour in&#39;, but it&#39;s often used for solids. It can apply to chopped carrots, as in Maryellen&#39;s example, because you&#39;re assumed to be tipping the chopping board over the pan and &#39;pouring&#39; the carrots in. The magazine that just came with my grocery order has &lt;i&gt;tip &lt;/i&gt;in its first two recipes: bread dough is tipped onto a floured surface. Cooked spinach is tipped into a sieve.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;color: #660000; font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;add&lt;/i&gt;: Mrs Redboots suggested this one. &lt;i&gt;Add &lt;/i&gt;is General English, of course, but she notes a different usage:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 15px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;American on-line cooks &quot;add&quot; ingredients to an empty pan.&amp;nbsp; Can you add something when there is nothing there?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;pop&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;British people are always popping—popping in, popping out, popping to the shops—so I suspected that&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;pop it in the oven&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;would also show up as more BrE, but no. It looks like General English in the&amp;nbsp;GloWbE corpus. Google Books has&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;pop it in the oven&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;becoming more common after the 1990s, with BrE use of the phrase overtaking American from 2014.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;AmE does seem to like to&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;pop open &lt;/i&gt;various things, and BrE doesn&#39;t so much. This can include food/drink packaging &lt;i&gt;(pop open a beer&lt;/i&gt;), but is often used of doors, the (BrE) &lt;b&gt;bonnet&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;/(&lt;/i&gt;AmE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;hood&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;or (BrE) &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/08/yard-sales-car-boot-sales-and-other.html&quot;&gt;boot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;/(AmE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;trunk&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;of a car, etc. &lt;i&gt;Pop&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;probably deserves it own post someday.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Verbs of mixing and cutting&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div&gt;In my experience, British kitchens are more likely to have (more AmE)&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;immersion blenders&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/b&gt;/ (more BrE)&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;hand blenders&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/b&gt;/ (slightly more BrE &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;stick blenders&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;)&amp;nbsp;and American ones to have&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt; &lt;b&gt;hand(-held) mixers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;(BrE also&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;electric whisks&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;). But I only go in the kitchens of those I know, so maybe that&#39;s quite biased. It would make sense, though, since UK &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2011/02/prototypical-soup.html&quot;&gt;soups&lt;/a&gt; are much more likely to be purées and, until the advent of the &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2014/12/2014-us-to-uk-co-word-of-year-bake-off.html&quot;&gt;Great British &lt;b&gt;Bake-Off&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, it seemed to me that Americans did more cake-baking (often with mixes, but still—using a mixer).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;(BrE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;blitz&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: It sounds a bit slangy, but &lt;i&gt;blitz &lt;/i&gt;is nearly the standard verb in BrE for using a blender, especially for short blasts—to the extent that some people call any kind of blender a&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;blitzer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;. &lt;/i&gt;(I did not succeed in finding out how common this is, because the data is overrun with people named &lt;i&gt;Blitzer&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;and sports &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/blitzer&quot;&gt;blitzers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, etc.).&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;Blitz&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;looks like it might be making it into US website recipes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;float: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVe0A6IDmi80LbUK5PQ21f4yiDGB0GHyN8AMu3GbNxgx6TroIUbe50MY7qhmiTdaxDvVHfAlEa0zN5sFRF17O8aRji3fWNxneN_a1Zc8CmIcAkAeCqiYRg0z2ADct5h9wKXzHLsv3Fpr46cDLAM5WFJD_e2awWH0atpy5mQtaJpRY1sxLxrfGU/s610/gm210_barware.webp&quot; style=&quot;clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;A wooden lemon reamer; it has a handle to hold and a fluted end for putting into a lemon and twisting about&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;610&quot; data-original-width=&quot;610&quot; height=&quot;200&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVe0A6IDmi80LbUK5PQ21f4yiDGB0GHyN8AMu3GbNxgx6TroIUbe50MY7qhmiTdaxDvVHfAlEa0zN5sFRF17O8aRji3fWNxneN_a1Zc8CmIcAkAeCqiYRg0z2ADct5h9wKXzHLsv3Fpr46cDLAM5WFJD_e2awWH0atpy5mQtaJpRY1sxLxrfGU/w200-h200/gm210_barware.webp&quot; width=&quot;200&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;a wooden reamer&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;whisk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&amp;nbsp;This is general English, but &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.twinkl.co.uk/resource/t2-e-1300-cooking-verbs-display-poster&quot;&gt;only in BrE &lt;/a&gt;(and rarely) have I seen it used to refer to the action of using an electric mixer (with whisk-y attachments). It&#39;s thus used a lot more in UK recipes.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;beat&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/b&gt;[added 18 Mar 25]: I am looking at two &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;cook(ery) books&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/b&gt;now, and see that Americans are always &lt;i&gt;beating &lt;/i&gt;their ingredients where British bakers are &lt;i&gt;whisking &lt;/i&gt;them. Neither word is particular to one nationlect, but the rates of usage seem quite different. (&lt;a href=&quot;https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=beat+the+eggs%3Aeng_gb_2019%2Cbeat+the+eggs%3Aeng_us_2019&amp;amp;year_start=1985&amp;amp;year_end=2008&amp;amp;corpus=en-2009&amp;amp;smoothing=3&quot;&gt;Click for an ngram of &lt;i&gt;beat the eggs&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(orig. AmE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;rice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;to press through a holey surface or mesh to create very small pieces; some people have special &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.nisbets.co.uk/vogue-heavy-duty-potato-ricer/j487&quot;&gt;ricers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; for this. Especially used with boiled potatoes to make &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/07/countmass-nouns-potato-egg-tax-sport.html&quot;&gt;mashed potato(es)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(AmE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;pull&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;: to &quot;stretch and draw&quot; a mixture (usually AmE &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taffy_(candy)&quot;&gt;taffy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;) until it is aerated and ready to set. OED has this as &quot;chiefly&quot; AmE.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then there is the &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;pull&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in &lt;i&gt;pulled pork&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;pulled chicken&lt;/i&gt;, etc. OED has this as &quot;chiefly U.S. in the late 20th century&quot; (but it seems to have come back to the UK with US-style pulled pork).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(AmE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;ream&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;to juice a citrus fruit, using a device that you twist in the halved fruit.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Verbs of baking/pastry&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;frost/ice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;: &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2009/12/icing-and-frosting.html&quot;&gt;See this old post.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(BrE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;knock up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;(a crust&lt;/i&gt;): to seal and finish the crusts of a pie. (&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.gransnet.com/forums/ask_a_gran/1276725-Do-any-of-you-still-knock-up-puff-pastry-And-I-dont-mean-make&quot;&gt;Here&#39;s an online discussion of it.&lt;/a&gt;) This is no doubt related to uses of the phrase in other crafts. Here&#39;s the first OED sense definition for &lt;i&gt;knock up&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;definition&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;To drive upwards, or fasten up, by knocking;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; color=&quot;inherit&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;spec.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; color=&quot;inherit&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;Bookbinding&lt;/span&gt;, etc. to make even the edges of (a pile of loose sheets) by striking them on a table; in&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; color=&quot;inherit&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;Bootmaking&lt;/span&gt;, to cut or flatten the edges of the upper after its attachment to the insole.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;AmE &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;knock up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is a more general expression for &#39;prepare quickly&#39;. So if you &lt;i&gt;knock up a pie&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(or a three-course meal or anything else) in AmE, that&#39;s talking about the whole process of preparing it, from start to finish.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;proof&lt;/span&gt; / &lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;prove&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;In BrE, you&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #0f1419; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;prove&lt;/b&gt; dough and (traditionally) in AmE you &lt;b&gt;proof&lt;/b&gt; it (unless you&#39;ve watched lots of GBBO). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #0f1419;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 17px; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Verbs of preserving&amp;nbsp;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;can&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;v &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;tin/bottle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;: Say you have tomatoes that you blanch and put into jars for use later in the year, in AmE that would be &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;canning&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/i&gt;even though the tomatoes are going into a glass jar. You could also talk about canning if you were putting things in a jar to pickle, I think—it&#39;s just our general word for what to do when you have a glut of some fruit or vegetable that needs saving for later. The OED suggests &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;tin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(for putting things in metal containers) and &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;bottle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;as BrE equivalents, but I think maybe for putting things in jars more general-English words like &lt;i&gt;preserve &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;pickle&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;might be more used? (Let us know in the comments.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Bottle &lt;/i&gt;would be used in AmE if you were putting things, like sauces or liqueurs, into bottles, but not usually for jars.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Verbs of meat preparation&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div&gt;See also &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2009/12/buying-meat.html&quot;&gt;this old post about butchery differences&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;French&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;: this one (not in my vocabulary) I got from the OED:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;definition&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;grammar&quot; color=&quot;inherit&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;transitive&lt;/span&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; color=&quot;inherit&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;Cookery&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;(now chiefly&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; color=&quot;inherit&quot; style=&quot;background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;U.S.&lt;/span&gt;). To prepare a joint by partially separating the meat from the bone and removing any excess fat.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;tenderize&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;orig. AmE, but has been in BrE since the 1970s&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll be able to think of some I&#39;ve missed. Please add them in the comments!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/1636254166166398694/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/03/recipe-verbs.html#comment-form' title='71 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/1636254166166398694'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/1636254166166398694'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/03/recipe-verbs.html' title='recipe verbs'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://img.youtube.com/vi/l8OTdONxT9s/default.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>71</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-417295810558815972</id><published>2025-02-09T21:54:00.020+00:00</published><updated>2025-04-16T20:09:36.883+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="grammar"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="morphology"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="past tense"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="pronunciation"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="spelling"/><title type='text'>-ed versus -t</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/&quot;&gt;Ben Yagoda&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(Friend
  of&amp;nbsp;SbaCL and&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/&quot;&gt;Not One-Off Britishisms blogger)&lt;/a&gt;, who had recently noticed a US journalist saying &lt;i&gt;learnt &lt;/i&gt;instead of
  &lt;i&gt;learned&lt;/i&gt;,&amp;nbsp;asked whether I&#39;d covered the
  &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed/&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;t &lt;/i&gt;alternation. It&#39;s one of those things that I&#39;ve been putting off
  for a long time because it would be a very long post. Now I&#39;ve been shamed out of my laziness.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In order to do this in any kind of sensible way, I feel like I need to explain some things about the past tense in English. I&#39;ll try to introduce terms gently, with links to sites with deeper
  explanations. At points I will be a bit sloppy and use more familiar (and less
  precise) terms (like &lt;i&gt;past-tense&lt;/i&gt;). And I&#39;m going to be very sloppy about
  phonetic spelling, both because not everyone knows the&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet&quot;&gt;
    International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)&lt;/a&gt;
  and because if I tried to use the IPA we&#39;d have to get into
  not-especially-relevant differences in pronunciation of many of these
  words.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;The origins of &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  Let&#39;s start by thinking a bit more about &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;. Old English had different
  categories of verbs that were put into past tense (&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterite&quot;&gt;preterite&lt;/a&gt;) in various ways. The so-called&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://oldenglish.info/sv9.html&quot;&gt;strong verbs&lt;/a&gt; were those that
  changed their internal vowel. Some of those are still &#39;strong&#39; in Modern
  English, like &lt;i&gt;drink/drank &lt;/i&gt;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;write/wrote&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  Those that ended with the (then multiple) suffixes that would eventually
  become&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;are
  &lt;a href=&quot;https://oldenglish.info/weakverbs.html&quot;&gt;weak verbs&lt;/a&gt;. They don&#39;t
  undergo an internal change to make past tense; a suffix is just stuck on the
  end.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  Nowadays, we think of strong verbs as &quot;irregular verbs&quot; and
  &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;verbs as &quot;regular&quot; verbs, but back in Old English the verbs
  that we now think of as &quot;irregular&quot; fell into regular patterns in a more complex system.&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  For centuries, English has been bending toward verb weakness. Many Old English
  &quot;strong&quot; verbs are now made past-tense with &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed, &lt;/i&gt;like
  &lt;i&gt;starved&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(rather than something like&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;storve&lt;/i&gt;) and
  &lt;i&gt;baked &lt;/i&gt;(not &lt;i&gt;boke&lt;/i&gt;).&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
  But &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is only the &lt;i&gt;spelling&lt;/i&gt; of the past-tense suffix
&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
  We tend to think of &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;as the past-tense suffix because it&#39;s how
  it tends to be represented in spelling. That spelling makes it look like it
  has two sounds, but a common lesson in English Linguistics &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2011/11/untranslatables-month-summary.html&quot;&gt;101&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;is
  that spelling is misleading. Notice how we pronounce &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in the
  following words:
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
  &lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
      &lt;i&gt;stopped&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;stoked&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;passed, slashed&lt;/i&gt;,
      &lt;i&gt;torched&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;= &quot;stopt&quot;, &quot;stokt&quot;, &quot;past&quot;, &quot;slasht&quot;, &quot;torcht&quot;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
      &lt;i&gt;strobed&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;flogged&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;buzzed,&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;judged&lt;/i&gt;,
      &lt;i&gt;blamed&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;pinged&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;= &quot;strobd&quot;, &quot;flogd&quot;, &quot;buzzd&quot;, &quot;judjd&quot;,
      &quot;blamd&quot;, &quot;pingd&quot;
    &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  That is, each of these past tense forms is pronounced with one syllable.
  The&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;does not represent a vowel+consonant combination.
  &lt;i&gt;Buzzed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;isn&#39;t &quot;buzz-ed&quot;, it&#39;s &quot;buzzd&quot;.&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  If you don&#39;t hear the difference between those, think about
  &lt;i&gt;learned &lt;/i&gt;in these two contexts:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;learned a fact&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;versus
  &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;a learned scholar&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The first has one syllable (&quot;lernd&quot;), the second as two distinct
  syllables with a distinct vowel in the &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;. That two-syllable&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;learnéd &lt;/i&gt;(sometimes spelled/spelt with the accent mark) is a
  special case; it&#39;s an adjective, rather than a verb. We&#39;re going to stick to verbs, not adjectives in this post, but that adjective is handy for illustrating what we&#39;re &lt;i&gt;not &lt;/i&gt;doing in words like
  &lt;i&gt;buzzed&lt;/i&gt;. We&#39;re not pronouncing a vowel in &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some other &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;verbs do have a pronounced vowel in &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;i&gt;tasted&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;boarded&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;dated&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;padded&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;minded&lt;/i&gt;:
    each has two syllables.
  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  If you start from the spelling, you might think that &lt;i&gt;buzzed &lt;/i&gt;is&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;buzz+ed &lt;/i&gt;and the E has &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2020/01/2019-us-to-uk-word-of-year-gotten.html&quot;&gt;got(ten)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; lost.&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;But language doesn&#39;t start from spelling, it starts from
  sounds. Instead of the suffix being &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;, with some weird places where the
  vowel is dropped, it makes more linguistic sense to see the suffix as &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;d &lt;/i&gt;and to observe that we have rules for what to do when that [d] rubs up against other sounds in pronunciation. The rules are:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
    The [&lt;b&gt;voiced&lt;/b&gt;] -&lt;i&gt;d &lt;/i&gt;becomes
    [&lt;b&gt;voiceless&lt;/b&gt;]&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;t&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;when it follows a
    voiceless&amp;nbsp;consonant sound. (We say it &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assimilation_(phonology)&quot;&gt;assimilates&lt;/a&gt; to voicelessness.
    Assimilation makes things easier to say quickly.)
  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
    A vowel is inserted (&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epenthesis#Grammatical_rule&quot;&gt;epenthesized&lt;/a&gt;) when we try to attach the suffix
    &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;d&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;to a /t/ or a /d/ sound. These consonants are pronounced by tapping the gum ridge behind the teeth with the tip of your tongue (they&#39;re &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveolar_consonant&quot;&gt;alveolar&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plosive&quot;&gt;plosives&lt;/a&gt;). and if we tried to pronounce them together, you&#39;d not be able to hear them
    both. (In English, we would pronounce &lt;i&gt;padd &lt;/i&gt;the same as &lt;i&gt;pad.&lt;/i&gt;) So, inserting the
    vowel makes the doubled alveolar consonants pronounceable for the speaker and hearable for the listener.&amp;nbsp;
  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;In all other cases, the suffix remains &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;‑&lt;/span&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; in pronunciation.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Because we follow rules when we pronounce all those variants of -&lt;i&gt;(e)d&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;and nothing else changes, those are very regular verb endings. Notice that nothing major changes in the verb root. The&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;taste&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;is the same as the&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;a&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;tasted&lt;/i&gt;, and the&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;o&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;stop&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;is the same as the&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;o&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;stopped&lt;/i&gt;, etc. In the irregular verbs discussed below, that&#39;s not always the case.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This all means means that the difference between&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;learnt&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;learned&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is very small: just the difference between saying the [t] sound and saying the [d] sound. We&#39;re not saying more sounds if we say the version that&#39;s got more letters.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #660000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Late addition&lt;/b&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://bsky.app/profile/hundtmariann.bsky.social/post/3lirf67iozc2w&quot;&gt;Marianne Hundt reminds me&lt;/a&gt; that things are not always straightforward—there can be back and forth between regularization and irregularization in the timeline. What follows us just about where we are now.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;h2 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;t/d variation&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Now we move to the ones that seem
  &lt;b&gt;irregular&lt;/b&gt; in Modern English and whether they are the same in British
  and American English.
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In each case, I&#39;ve had a look at the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org//&quot;&gt;Corpus of Global Web-Based English&lt;/a&gt; to see what percentage of the BrE/AmE usage is in the irregular form. So, where it says&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;98% in the first table for &lt;i&gt;bent&lt;/i&gt;, it means that 98% of the examples are &lt;i&gt;bent&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;and 2% are &lt;i&gt;bended&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I&#39;ve rounded all the percentages to the nearest whole number.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here, I&#39;m only worrying about irregulars with a -&lt;i&gt;t&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;marking the past tense. If you&#39;re interested in other irregular past-tense forms, &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/search/label/past%20tense&quot;&gt;I have some other blog posts for you&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;final&lt;i&gt; d &amp;gt; t &lt;/i&gt;(no vowel change)&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div&gt;British and American English don&#39;t differ in using these irregulars:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;table style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;
  &lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;th&gt;Base form&lt;/th&gt;
    &lt;th&gt;Past form&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;AmE %&lt;/th&gt;
        &lt;th&gt;BrE %&lt;/th&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;bend&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;bent&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;98*&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;98*&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;lend&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;lent&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;100&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;100&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;send&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;sent&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;100&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;100&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;spend&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;spent&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;100&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;100&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div&gt;While we have a pattern here of &lt;i&gt;end&amp;gt;ent&lt;/i&gt;, it&#39;s not a regularity. No one says&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;tent&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;as the past tense of&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;tend&lt;/i&gt;, or&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;ent&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;as the past of&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;end.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;I haven&#39;t tried searching for &lt;i&gt;rend/rent&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;because I&#39;d be overwhelmed by the &#39;lease&#39; meaning of &lt;i&gt;rent&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;*&lt;b&gt;Bended&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is like &lt;i&gt;learnéd&lt;/i&gt;, in that it&#39;s used as a participial adjective (as in &lt;i&gt;on bended knee&lt;/i&gt;). So, the 2% or so of &lt;i&gt;bended &lt;/i&gt;are a different thing. As a verb, everyone&#39;s saying &lt;i&gt;bent&lt;/i&gt;: &lt;i&gt;I bent the rules&lt;/i&gt;, not &lt;i&gt;I bended the rules.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;pt&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;versus &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;ped&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;with vowel change&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here we see AmE moving toward regularization for&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;creep&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;leap&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, but not other rhyming verbs. Irregularity is easier to maintain in much-used verbs—we learn the irregular form because we hear it. When we go to make a past-tense for a verb we&#39;ve heard less, we often have to make up a past-tense form on the spot, and that is most easily done with &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;. It&#39;s a bit surprising that &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;wept&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is still so strong, considering it&#39;s the least-used of any of this set.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;table style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;th&gt;Base form&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;Past form&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;AmE %&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;BrE %&lt;/th&gt;&lt;/tr&gt; &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;creep&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;crept&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;td&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;62&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;92&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;leap&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;leapt&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;52&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;79&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;sleep&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;slept&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;100&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;100&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;sweep&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;swept&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;100&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;100&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;weep&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;wept&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;99&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;98&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;These irregulars all have a vowel change in common: the &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;pt&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;version has a &quot;short E&quot;, while its &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;counterpart (&lt;i&gt;creeped, sweeped&lt;/i&gt;) has a &quot;long E&quot;—even &lt;i&gt;leapt&lt;/i&gt;, whose spelling seems to indicate otherwise.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This case is different from other possible &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;pt&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;endings, like&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;slipt&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;and &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;stript&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;/i&gt;Since&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;slipt&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;is how&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;slipped&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;is actually pronounced (see above),&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;slipt/slipped&lt;/i&gt; is just a spelling difference, not an irregular verb issue. (They are also spelled/spelt with a&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&#39;d: &lt;b&gt;slipp&#39;d&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;stripp&#39;d&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;)&amp;nbsp;The numbers for these are so low that they would show up as 0 in the table, but there&#39;s an interesting detail about those tiny numbers: &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;slipt &lt;/i&gt;is only present in the GB corpus (6 times), and &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;stript&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;is only in the US corpus (10 times).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;-Nt&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;versus&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;ned&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;with vowel change&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;In these ones, a final &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_consonant&quot;&gt;nasal consonant &lt;/a&gt;is followed by the &lt;i&gt;-t&lt;/i&gt; suffix.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;The irregular forms also have a vowel change: the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;-Nt&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;version has a &quot;short E&quot;, while its&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;counterpart (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;leaned&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;) has a &quot;long E&quot;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;AmE uses regulari{s/z}ed&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;leaned&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;, while BrE still mostly uses&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;leant&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;but both have mostly regulari{s/z}ed &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;dreamed&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;and no one is saying&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;meaned&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;&lt;table style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;th&gt;Base form&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;Past form&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;AmE %&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;BrE %&lt;/th&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;dream&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;dreamt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;16&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;33&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;lean&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;leant&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;3&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;75&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;mean&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;meant&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;100&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;100&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;I have to wonder if the loss of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;leant&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;is related to its having homophones: &lt;i&gt;l&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;ent&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;, as a past tense of &lt;i&gt;lend.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;rnt&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;versus -&lt;i&gt;rned&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-size: medium; font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;These have no vowel change.&amp;nbsp;So, in spoken language, the difference is between saying &lt;i&gt;burnt &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;burnd&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-size: medium; font-weight: 400;&quot;&gt;&lt;table style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;th&gt;Base form&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;Past form&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;AmE %&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;BrE %&lt;/th&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;burn&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;burnt&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;23&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;42&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;earn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;earnt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;0&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;3&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;learn&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;learnt&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;4&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;44&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;These are a little tricky because &lt;i&gt;burnt &lt;/i&gt;is more common than &lt;i&gt;burned &lt;/i&gt;as an adjective (e.g. &lt;i&gt;burnt offerings&lt;/i&gt;), and as we&#39;ve already seen, there are some funny things going on with &lt;i&gt;learned &lt;/i&gt;as an adjective. But it&#39;s hard to trust that automatic processes for the corpus have accurately tagged the adjective use, so I haven&#39;t used that tagging to come to the numbers above. They include everything.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I had the feeling that these differ in preterit (&lt;i&gt;I learnt French&lt;/i&gt;) and &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_(grammar)&quot;&gt;perfect&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;i&gt;I have learnt French&lt;/i&gt;) forms. So, I searched for these in the formula &quot;PRONOUN [has/have/had] VERB+ed/t&quot;. The numbers for BrE irregulars go down in this condition (I tried it with other pronouns too), which tells us something, but I haven&#39;t got time to look into what it tells us. (Given that we no longer have the risk of errant adjectival &lt;i&gt;learneds&lt;/i&gt;, I expected the percentage to go up!)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;table style=&quot;width: 100%;&quot;&gt;
  &lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;th style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Past form&lt;/th&gt;
&lt;th&gt;AmE preterit&lt;/th&gt;
&lt;th&gt;AmE perfect&lt;/th&gt;
&lt;th&gt;BrE preterit&lt;/th&gt;
&lt;th&gt;BrE perfect&lt;/th&gt;
            
  &lt;/tr&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;burnt&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;17&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;21&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;33&lt;/td&gt;
            &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;39&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;
  &lt;tr&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;learnt&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;3&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;6&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;31&lt;/td&gt;
            &lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;36&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;/tr&gt;

&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;
So, I was right that there&#39;s more &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;rnt&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in the perfect than in the preterite, but it&#39;s a smaller gap than I&#39;d thought I&#39;d find.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;led &lt;/i&gt;versus &lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;lt&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;Finally, the Ls, one of which you&#39;ve seen already in this post: &lt;i&gt;spelled/spelt&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;These fall into two categories, with and without vowel change.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;The vowel-changing ones are solidly in the &quot;irregular&quot; category, with a bit of movement in the rarest of those, &lt;i&gt;kneel&amp;gt;knelt&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fcff01;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;table style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;th&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;With vowel change&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;Past form&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;AmE %&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;BrE %&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/th&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;deal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;dealt&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;100&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;100&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;feel&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;felt&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;100&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;100&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;kneel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;knelt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;85&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;89&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;We see some of the biggest differences between AmE and BrE in the non-vowel-changing ones—with some caveats about homonyms below.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fcff01;&quot;&gt;&lt;table style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;th&gt;&lt;span&gt;Without vowel change&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;&lt;span&gt;Past form&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;&lt;span&gt;AmE %&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;&lt;span&gt;BrE %&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/th&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;build&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;built&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;100&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;100&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;dwell&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;dwelt&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;86&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;83&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;smell&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;smelt&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;13&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;48*&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;spell&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;spelt&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;7&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;49&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;†&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;spill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;spilt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;38^&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;spoil&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;spoilt&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;5&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;51&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fcff01;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;*&lt;i&gt;S&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;melt&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is a bit tricky because it can be a verb in its own right (&lt;i&gt;smelting metal&lt;/i&gt;) and it&#39;s also a fish that&#39;s eaten in North America. The corpus, however, is bad at distinguishing these things. The majority of &lt;i&gt;smelt&lt;/i&gt;s in the results reported here are the past tense of &lt;i&gt;smell&lt;/i&gt;, but it would be too much work to tell you exactly how many.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;†&lt;i&gt;Spelt &lt;/i&gt;is another problem one because it is the name of a grain. I tried sorting out the noun uses from teh verb ones, but it turns out that most of the ones tagged as &quot;noun&quot; in the corpus are, in fact, instances of the verb. So the numbers here include all &lt;i&gt;spelt&lt;/i&gt;s.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;^In the case of &lt;i&gt;spilt&lt;/i&gt;, I wondered how much adjectival use mattered, particularly in the phrase &quot;cry over spilled/spilt milk&quot;.&amp;nbsp; So, I searched for &quot;spilled/spilt milk&quot; and found that Americans are pretty evenly split on &lt;i&gt;spilled &lt;/i&gt;versus &lt;i&gt;spilt&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in the phrase (36 hits vs 32), whereas in British English it was 76 versus 18 hits. Those &lt;i&gt;spilt milk&lt;/i&gt;s account for 14–18% of the &lt;i&gt;spilt&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;percentages above (which is to say, that phrase isn&#39;t adding much to the AmE/BrE difference).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;miscellaneous irregulars&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;There are a few more irregulars-ending-in-&lt;i&gt;t&lt;/i&gt;; these ones end in fricative sounds. But it&#39;s not worth saying much about them, since they&#39;re much the same in British and American English.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;leave&amp;gt;left&lt;/i&gt;: &lt;/b&gt;Everyone uses the irregular for this one. Where &lt;i&gt;leaved &lt;/i&gt;happens, it has to do with leaves (like on a tree or a table),&amp;nbsp;not leaving.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;vex&amp;gt;vext&lt;/i&gt;: &lt;/b&gt;The &lt;i&gt;-t&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;version is still playable in Scrabble, but the corpus tells us no one&#39;s using it in UK or US. I&#39;m not even bothering to look for other verbs ending in &lt;i&gt;x.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;dress&amp;gt;drest&lt;/i&gt;: No one&#39;s using this one either! But...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white;&quot;&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;bless&amp;gt;blest&lt;/i&gt;: We find a bit more of this one, since old-fashioned spellings are common in religious language, either because they&#39;re quoted from long-ago translated scripture or because they&#39;re styled to sound like scripture. Still, only 2% of the AmE &quot;past&quot; forms are &lt;i&gt;blest&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;and only 1% of the BrE.&amp;nbsp; (I say &quot;past&quot; because a lot of them are probably adjectives.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h2 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;The moral of the story is...&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;u&gt;While some -&lt;i&gt;t&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;spellings are more common in current BrE than in current AmE, it would be wrong to call them &quot;the British spelling&quot;&lt;/u&gt;, with one exception: &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;leant&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; There we have clear evidence of a transatlantic divide where the &lt;i&gt;-t&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;version is the firm majority in the UK and the -&lt;i&gt;ed&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;version is much preferred in the US.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the other cases, there may be more preference for one or the other in US or UK, but the same forms have the majority/minority in both countries (at least in this corpus, which was collected 12 years ago). That is to say, you&#39;re much more likely to see &lt;i&gt;spelt &lt;/i&gt;from a British writer than an American one, but an awful lot of British writers are writing &lt;i&gt;spelled&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;i&gt;Learnt &lt;/i&gt;will tell you that a document is almost certainly not American, but &lt;i&gt;learned &lt;/i&gt;will not tell you that the writer isn&#39;t British—and so forth.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/417295810558815972/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/02/ed-versus-t.html#comment-form' title='35 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/417295810558815972'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/417295810558815972'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2025/02/ed-versus-t.html' title='-ed versus -t'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><thr:total>35</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-2142309018673318572</id><published>2024-12-31T18:01:00.000+00:00</published><updated>2024-12-31T18:01:01.483+00:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="geography"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="metaphor"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="politics/history"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="WotY"/><title type='text'>US-to-UK Word of the Year 2024: landslide</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;I&#39;ve been struck by the lack of election-related 2024 Words of the Year from the English dictionaries&amp;nbsp; (for a list, &lt;a href=&quot;https://mailchi.mp/6e7bf456bbdd/words-of-the-year-in-stride?e=6f71c8b167&quot;&gt;see November&#39;s newsletter&lt;/a&gt;). So I am here to repair that with my US-to-UK Word of the Year:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000; font-size: x-large;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;landslide&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;...which was much-used in its figurative sense to describe the result of the UK election that ended 14 years of Conservative government.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWqeL7UI2WLEZFsBOC0FsAH7Cpnq9HAYonxfTCnYKLZIzJWXqn6hFCmbm1aJr3YO7XAQYuhDQ1uMfEFBrAUTNlUUs8Rsm7NSqlaKBuJhVQyBfNa2wbsFicM42r6Ukia7JG35cwdVXQ5owpT9HYXWSlVaZPWdAwo7QdDPgfAisuGkyMswhL9nyK/s1450/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2011.48.04.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;856&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1450&quot; height=&quot;378&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWqeL7UI2WLEZFsBOC0FsAH7Cpnq9HAYonxfTCnYKLZIzJWXqn6hFCmbm1aJr3YO7XAQYuhDQ1uMfEFBrAUTNlUUs8Rsm7NSqlaKBuJhVQyBfNa2wbsFicM42r6Ukia7JG35cwdVXQ5owpT9HYXWSlVaZPWdAwo7QdDPgfAisuGkyMswhL9nyK/w640-h378/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2011.48.04.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #666666;&quot;&gt;some &lt;i&gt;landslide &lt;/i&gt;headlines in UK media&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Here&#39;s how it it&#39;s been showing up in British news sources:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD7boVSjpd59Xft-XVNhF1ju8Vtvr81bn-1D5PP3jEf6HIoXaYRYafQ56IT7oOC_phT5hu44Wi62cEqS_9cqiH5zGNafAhD_yOZN7TTsHfQDh0Xpk_F4vYHB9Fr8Vk-NZD0rKb0SwZKAyic2KsfrzQKIMfu2aKTxn0OxfgICIAEtKIb1nwWYAV/s2112/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2011.36.00.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;806&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2112&quot; height=&quot;244&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgD7boVSjpd59Xft-XVNhF1ju8Vtvr81bn-1D5PP3jEf6HIoXaYRYafQ56IT7oOC_phT5hu44Wi62cEqS_9cqiH5zGNafAhD_yOZN7TTsHfQDh0Xpk_F4vYHB9Fr8Vk-NZD0rKb0SwZKAyic2KsfrzQKIMfu2aKTxn0OxfgICIAEtKIb1nwWYAV/w640-h244/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2011.36.00.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #666666;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;landslide &lt;/i&gt;in UK sources in the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org//&quot;&gt;NOW corpus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The 2017 peak relates to both discussion of political landslides and a number of literal ones, particularly &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Sichuan_landslide&quot;&gt;a big one in China&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Though the Google Books data is not as up-to-date, it shows a general increase in the term in BrE, starting at the turn of the 20th century, but speeding up from the 1980s. (It&#39;s possible that has something to do with the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM7-PYtXtJM&quot;&gt;1975 hit song &quot;Landslide&quot;&lt;/a&gt; by the Anglo-American band Fleetwood Mac.) I&#39;m not too worried about the dip in the 2000s. Most words I look up in Google ngrams dip in the 2000s for some reason.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgar5Esm5eb97nkdSEZq9aymTcCCAeHs5IJVwPLftOLCXL7MIYxJELwjpPmW0d4dpLCXJOM-xWylIVnwr0q1lpqaNwsPGkkcqpTWXPwrfZeNaHZ5MBgx1ySK5EqlpDzCdMlQ6RobiOItvu0ZWJ1AyWAHO83KeaPJhuNDE6zNaf4XuTKaJT02a1x/s1832/Screenshot%202024-12-30%20at%2016.54.07.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;950&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1832&quot; height=&quot;332&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgar5Esm5eb97nkdSEZq9aymTcCCAeHs5IJVwPLftOLCXL7MIYxJELwjpPmW0d4dpLCXJOM-xWylIVnwr0q1lpqaNwsPGkkcqpTWXPwrfZeNaHZ5MBgx1ySK5EqlpDzCdMlQ6RobiOItvu0ZWJ1AyWAHO83KeaPJhuNDE6zNaf4XuTKaJT02a1x/w640-h332/Screenshot%202024-12-30%20at%2016.54.07.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #666666;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;landslide &lt;/i&gt;in UK publications in Google Books&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;The first OED citation for&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;landslide&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(which it marks as &quot;Originally U.S.&quot;) is from 1822; early citations are hyphenated, but the hyphen was soon lost. (That OED entry was updated in 2021.) The BrE word&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;landslip&lt;/i&gt;, by comparison, dates back to at least the 1670s. While the OED marks&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;landslip&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;as &#39;also figurative&#39; none of its examples are figurative uses (but that entry has not been updated since 1901; it is irregularly hyphenated into the 19th century). Here are the definitions:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: georgia;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;landslide&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: georgia;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;1.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb;&quot;&gt;The s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;liding &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;down or subsidence of a large mass of earth, rock, etc.; a landslip;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;esp.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;a collapse of earth or rock from a mountain or cliff.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;Also&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;figurative&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;2.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;An overwhelming majority of votes for one party or candidate in an election; a victory achieved with such a majority.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;landslip&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;The sliding down of a mass of land on a mountain or cliff side; land which has so fallen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;Also&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;figurative&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;grammar&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-emoji: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;attributive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif;&quot;&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;While the 2024 peak in news usage is certainly due to the UK election, it&#39;s clearly not just the figurative meaning that&#39;s moved to the UK. Recent results for &lt;i&gt;landslide &lt;/i&gt;on the BBC website are all about literal land moving—in the UK or in other countries.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiNHbgEVxbFpdHbAme_JYBTE4QXHsTs5sJP114gjAcxziya1X13diECai37Z54VJZ3T4ED6hcDCPbbcEkjkUGv5WVFz-PfKCe_z5mNRsb6WvGUHrku6bJR1sUafweNSU2bddz9qw_dO71ZUN-yCzDh1ENKMMFqjhNhnpquCNlhAjBpuYMcJQ1KV/s1256/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2011.58.58.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1256&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1096&quot; height=&quot;640&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiNHbgEVxbFpdHbAme_JYBTE4QXHsTs5sJP114gjAcxziya1X13diECai37Z54VJZ3T4ED6hcDCPbbcEkjkUGv5WVFz-PfKCe_z5mNRsb6WvGUHrku6bJR1sUafweNSU2bddz9qw_dO71ZUN-yCzDh1ENKMMFqjhNhnpquCNlhAjBpuYMcJQ1KV/w558-h640/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2011.58.58.png&quot; width=&quot;558&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;In the last one there, the headline says&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;landslip&lt;/i&gt;, but&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;landslide &lt;/i&gt;is in the first line of the article. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To me,&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;landslide&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;sounds much bigger than&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;landslip&lt;/i&gt;, and that might be reflected in the&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;large&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in the former definition. Around here in the South of England, landslips&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;occasionally close down rail travel&amp;nbsp;between Brighton and London. In that case, it&#39;ll be that some earth has washed down from the slopes along the (BrE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;railway line/&lt;/b&gt;(AmE)&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;train tracks&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp;There, I don&#39;t tend to hear&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;landslide&lt;/i&gt;, and sure enough, those headlines tend to be about &lt;i&gt;landslips.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiQ5Zpkq4THZfAlylyimDb2a-wYMV6L2cArId5aY1_jk9PrnYrvJFtSmKEuBDZMIUPwBi5gxIWUYuo6KJfw1M8qXrWqfHP45z4joPsxWcQdLbf0H9a6fdEAqH2N34aUJQQ7FQg2R31vmRneSkBtZ2AggExQjYsA2R7y1QnNyjli4y9NVKRpA2eT/s1266/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2017.57.49.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1266&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1132&quot; height=&quot;640&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiQ5Zpkq4THZfAlylyimDb2a-wYMV6L2cArId5aY1_jk9PrnYrvJFtSmKEuBDZMIUPwBi5gxIWUYuo6KJfw1M8qXrWqfHP45z4joPsxWcQdLbf0H9a6fdEAqH2N34aUJQQ7FQg2R31vmRneSkBtZ2AggExQjYsA2R7y1QnNyjli4y9NVKRpA2eT/w573-h640/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2017.57.49.png&quot; width=&quot;573&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;In Google Books, &lt;i&gt;landslide&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;started showing up in UK publications in the early 20th century. &lt;i&gt;Landslip &lt;/i&gt;has been going down, but it was not that high to begin with. That suggests that &lt;i&gt;landslide &lt;/i&gt;is doing work that &lt;i&gt;landslip &lt;/i&gt;wasn&#39;t doing—both metaphorical work and description of more catastrophic land movement. I note that &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bgs.ac.uk/case-studies/aberfan-1966-landslide-case-study/&quot;&gt;the Aberfan disaster of 1966 is described by the British Geological Society&lt;/a&gt; as a &lt;i&gt;landslide &lt;/i&gt;and an &lt;i&gt;avalanche&lt;/i&gt;, but not as a &lt;i&gt;landslip.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhiBYN7z-Q31sDLc4m3W0vlcD6cwm0uiZjqWLSFeZrtY4D7VAT47GnVN9x30swzeffV_kHfh7F6k6cN49ZIf7LTIRUWUEY_836_jp8Z_rGQ3mmTBRGEjC96AhLGmX6shDm2kjFbsoN1o_c2gEO_ohirrmOLO4u2tXFTgaox8k8NR9KIGQxOG2tN/s2094/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2012.03.18.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1044&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2094&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhiBYN7z-Q31sDLc4m3W0vlcD6cwm0uiZjqWLSFeZrtY4D7VAT47GnVN9x30swzeffV_kHfh7F6k6cN49ZIf7LTIRUWUEY_836_jp8Z_rGQ3mmTBRGEjC96AhLGmX6shDm2kjFbsoN1o_c2gEO_ohirrmOLO4u2tXFTgaox8k8NR9KIGQxOG2tN/w640-h320/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2012.03.18.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;I suspect some readers won&#39;t have known that &lt;i&gt;landslide &lt;/i&gt;was an Americanism. And you could ask: if it&#39;s been used in the UK for a century, maybe it shouldn&#39;t count as an Americanism. But it is American by birth, and even 12 years ago, the word was much more strongly American:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgSCZsZbBqPuFz6khSnx7ZdXT_SMEhh65PNosnQAHBqsmaS9cEz3QbHIbrXI_cfwvlLWxz68ozTiK4ItUEvmhhdm6fob071EZP_0DKAcEV2XsCvXsh1BJNaxqceXx4BWYqtivQTfNGP-1L_6vavfH4H4hBAAuhFNi6l-QcydNc_5wjVlMpmO7kg/s1114/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2017.41.08.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;800&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1114&quot; height=&quot;288&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgSCZsZbBqPuFz6khSnx7ZdXT_SMEhh65PNosnQAHBqsmaS9cEz3QbHIbrXI_cfwvlLWxz68ozTiK4ItUEvmhhdm6fob071EZP_0DKAcEV2XsCvXsh1BJNaxqceXx4BWYqtivQTfNGP-1L_6vavfH4H4hBAAuhFNi6l-QcydNc_5wjVlMpmO7kg/w400-h288/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2017.41.08.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #666666;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;landslide &lt;/i&gt;in&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/glowbe/&quot;&gt;GloWbE corpus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;Whether or not we continue to hear of electoral landslides, it&#39;s a fair bet there will be more environmental ones in the news. &lt;i&gt;Landslide &lt;/i&gt;is likely to hang around in BrE. That doesn&#39;t mean it will necessarily boot out &lt;i&gt;landslip&lt;/i&gt;. It&#39;s handy to have different words to represent the difference between disasters and inconveniences.&amp;nbsp;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/2142309018673318572/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/12/us-to-uk-word-of-year-2024-landslide.html#comment-form' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/2142309018673318572'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/2142309018673318572'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/12/us-to-uk-word-of-year-2024-landslide.html' title='US-to-UK Word of the Year 2024: landslide'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWqeL7UI2WLEZFsBOC0FsAH7Cpnq9HAYonxfTCnYKLZIzJWXqn6hFCmbm1aJr3YO7XAQYuhDQ1uMfEFBrAUTNlUUs8Rsm7NSqlaKBuJhVQyBfNa2wbsFicM42r6Ukia7JG35cwdVXQ5owpT9HYXWSlVaZPWdAwo7QdDPgfAisuGkyMswhL9nyK/s72-w640-h378-c/Screenshot%202024-12-31%20at%2011.48.04.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-2283653325170063107</id><published>2024-12-30T13:52:00.008+00:00</published><updated>2024-12-30T14:12:25.541+00:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Americanization"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="time"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="WotY"/><title type='text'>UK-to-US Word of the Year 2024: fortnight</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;So much of the &quot;news&quot; this year was about female popular music stars. The year started with Beyonce going country, then Charlie XCX declared a &lt;i&gt;brat summer &lt;/i&gt;(leading Collins dictionaries to declare &lt;i&gt;brat &lt;/i&gt;their Word of the Year).&amp;nbsp;Facebook keeps feeding me videos of Ariana Grande acting and interviewing, and an incredible number of my middle-aged (and beyond) friends went to see Taylor Swift.&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/music/best-albums-2024-charli-xcx-taylor-swift-beyonce-b1201681.html&quot;&gt;Album-of-the-year lists&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;are filled with female solo artist megastars.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is Ms Swift who gives us our UK-to-US Word of the Year:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #990000; font-size: x-large;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;fortnight&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgHB0Z1EAs45apB9yeRRYX0eH8ngqnHxoQ-ll7pYwQG4Bnd0-XSNS6z5kql5_XZtLa5b0sFm9iClteRDTbcWO1dZqHr-Q7u7IMX14zv0w11eaRY5ukkPxIp5CuCVxk-9bEPJmlKLZ0BvEGMqeGuJaYNQVE-IZGMITN6FscbqPLv7VB6AoVaD6SY/s420/Screenshot%202024-12-30%20at%2013.53.06.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;420&quot; data-original-width=&quot;360&quot; height=&quot;111&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgHB0Z1EAs45apB9yeRRYX0eH8ngqnHxoQ-ll7pYwQG4Bnd0-XSNS6z5kql5_XZtLa5b0sFm9iClteRDTbcWO1dZqHr-Q7u7IMX14zv0w11eaRY5ukkPxIp5CuCVxk-9bEPJmlKLZ0BvEGMqeGuJaYNQVE-IZGMITN6FscbqPLv7VB6AoVaD6SY/w95-h111/Screenshot%202024-12-30%20at%2013.53.06.png&quot; width=&quot;95&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;This is the title of the single she released in April, co-written by Jack Antonoff and featuring Post Malone. It has been nominated for &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.grammy.com/news/2025-grammys-nominations-full-winners-nominees-list&quot;&gt;Record of the Year in the 2025 Grammy Awards&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;Thank you to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.theallusionist.org/&quot;&gt;Helen Zaltzman&lt;/a&gt; for nominating the word!&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/q3zqJs7JUCQ?si=TLyJjEzdD6Tf7ajd&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The single&#39;s release has resulted in a leap in the word&#39;s occurrence in US news:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHAPTbtNrKrV9T9KyxeuXKX1KlgX4u91IatO1nvUAkbbUWpDVke3uIDTplL8ML6PteB9GyWv3xEEeoL0U8Im3pxeRynXjnlhN8tFti4ncd78_ZmFVyY7mTYgtBD4sPSyI8rEUMiIMFQyczZ3Cmy0Ev4d8BqfiYKq4I1SCoV3JbL7HyeBHfCLZs/s2096/Screenshot%202024-12-30%20at%2011.28.17.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;810&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2096&quot; height=&quot;248&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHAPTbtNrKrV9T9KyxeuXKX1KlgX4u91IatO1nvUAkbbUWpDVke3uIDTplL8ML6PteB9GyWv3xEEeoL0U8Im3pxeRynXjnlhN8tFti4ncd78_ZmFVyY7mTYgtBD4sPSyI8rEUMiIMFQyczZ3Cmy0Ev4d8BqfiYKq4I1SCoV3JbL7HyeBHfCLZs/w640-h248/Screenshot%202024-12-30%20at%2011.28.17.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/2012/05/12/fortnight/&quot;&gt;Ben Yagoda noticed US use of&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;fortnight&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;all the way back in 2012&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;on his &lt;i&gt;Not One-Off Britishisms &lt;/i&gt;(NOOBs) blog. But as the above graph shows, it was not much more than a one-off then. Its&amp;nbsp;last peak (in US usage) came in 2018. &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortnite&quot;&gt;The game &lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortnite&quot;&gt;Fortnite&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;was released in 2017 and took over the world in 2018. This seems to be unrelated to the &lt;i&gt;fortnight &lt;/i&gt;surge, which seems to come from &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tham_Luang_cave_rescue&quot;&gt;the news story&lt;/a&gt; about the Thai boys&#39; football team rescued after two weeks trapped in a cave. US news outlets repeated sentences with the word &lt;i&gt;fortnight &lt;/i&gt;from non-US news agencies, including Reuters. A fair proportion of the 2018 number are also from US versions of foreign-owned sources like &lt;i&gt;The Guardian &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;Al Jazeera&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Since 2018, it&#39;s had more usage than before. To a point, that is because more non-US sources have US web presences—so for example, 2021&#39;s US &lt;i&gt;fortnight&lt;/i&gt;s include a lot of cricket commentary from &lt;i&gt;The Hindu &lt;/i&gt;and Omicron-variant tracing in &lt;i&gt;The Guardian&lt;/i&gt;. Nevertheless, there is evidence there of growing familiarity with the word in the US since 2018:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;painfully losing to Bill Belichick and Brady over the past&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;fortnight&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp; [nfl.com, 21 Dec 2021]&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;Since their [Korean band BTS&#39;s] &lt;b&gt;fortnight&lt;/b&gt; in L.A., which turned out to be a mere reprieve for artists and fans [&lt;i&gt;Hollywood Reporter&lt;/i&gt;, 29 Dec 2021]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;...as NYC is currently recording 3,761 daily Covid infections, a 55% increase in a &lt;b&gt;fortnight &lt;/b&gt;[deadline.com, 10 Dec 2022]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;By 2023, far more of the American&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;fortnight&lt;/i&gt;s seem to be homegrown. Many of those are about &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/07/countmass-nouns-potato-egg-tax-sport.html&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;sport(s)&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/a&gt;and many of those are about &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/07/world-cup-words.html&quot;&gt;European &lt;b&gt;football&lt;/b&gt; (AmE: &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;soccer&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. But a good few (like the nfl.com one above) are about US sports. It&#39;s possible that the sports pages, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/2024/08/27/sports-as-a-noobs-hotbed/&quot;&gt;a NOOBs hotbed&lt;/a&gt;&quot; are the entry point for the current &lt;i&gt;fortnight &lt;/i&gt;trend&lt;i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One could think that the sports connection is what made Swift aware of the term—but I think it&#39;s a word that poetically minded and well-travel(l)ed Americans would often know. So I&#39;m not going to bet that the inspiration for the word use was &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a45301082/taylor-swift-travis-kelce-full-relationship-timeline/&quot;&gt;Swift&#39;s involvement with an NFL player&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The song ends with some American geographical detail:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;Arial, sans-serif&quot; jsname=&quot;YS01Ge&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #1f1f1f; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;Thought of callin&#39; ya, but you won&#39;t pick up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #1f1f1f; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;&quot; /&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;Arial, sans-serif&quot; jsname=&quot;YS01Ge&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #1f1f1f; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;&#39;Nother fortnight lost in America&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #1f1f1f; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;&quot; /&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;Arial, sans-serif&quot; jsname=&quot;YS01Ge&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #1f1f1f; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;Move to Florida, buy the car you want&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #1f1f1f; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;&quot; /&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;Arial, sans-serif&quot; jsname=&quot;YS01Ge&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #1f1f1f; font-size: 14px;&quot;&gt;But it won&#39;t start up till you touch, touch, touch me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It feels like the juxtaposition of &lt;i&gt;fortnight &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;America &lt;/i&gt;is a nod to the unAmericanness of &lt;i&gt;fortnight&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Linguistic Americanness/Britishness depends on how you define &lt;i&gt;Americanism &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;Britishism&lt;/i&gt;. This one is British because it died out in the US, not because it was never used there. Its new American fame is a tiny drop compared to its early-US use:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiESD7RCRDNqCyErJvctGmXJs9E3YTWOvoPw19Nj1SUAw20muctJ_UoywPOl-jgh0T1jV5BVM7NDyKtCuo5VNwsIsdGkqN3rP06E7B2gZLah2doDL9_R3xudPtEcxbF0hnZGguJ0pe2ZutejCwmIRr2TcjFYGfKjVBSKrMA32PoRdCSki2cXBP0/s1890/Screenshot%202024-12-30%20at%2013.10.54.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1034&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1890&quot; height=&quot;350&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiESD7RCRDNqCyErJvctGmXJs9E3YTWOvoPw19Nj1SUAw20muctJ_UoywPOl-jgh0T1jV5BVM7NDyKtCuo5VNwsIsdGkqN3rP06E7B2gZLah2doDL9_R3xudPtEcxbF0hnZGguJ0pe2ZutejCwmIRr2TcjFYGfKjVBSKrMA32PoRdCSki2cXBP0/w640-h350/Screenshot%202024-12-30%20at%2013.10.54.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;We can be fairly certain that increased use of&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;fortnight&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in twenty-first AmE is related to recent/current British usage rather than revival of previous American usage. I don&#39;t think today&#39;s sports pages and pop stars are getting&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;fortnight&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;from&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silence_Dogood&quot;&gt;Benjamin Franklin&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Note that &lt;i&gt;fortnight&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;been going down-down-down in the UK too. British people are saying &lt;i&gt;two weeks&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;more than &lt;i&gt;fortnight &lt;/i&gt;since around the 1970s:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjqGcZ1uJU6q2yqSW_urKixcfUhvGCof4Qnr0cO6jxse-0WoIsb5FVhG8FGGO7LnJmJGcI8w9BvgwyurB19FaZ3Nh8JWPa4l8Hn5pfSYycLIj1QcWNLerQkgfe-9VmrZfmCh0dTj-ilTFIsj-6qq3OJ6vriTk_hLUxuO6CP8CV6CjM9NSij6MSc/s1864/Screenshot%202024-12-30%20at%2013.39.52.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;998&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1864&quot; height=&quot;342&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjqGcZ1uJU6q2yqSW_urKixcfUhvGCof4Qnr0cO6jxse-0WoIsb5FVhG8FGGO7LnJmJGcI8w9BvgwyurB19FaZ3Nh8JWPa4l8Hn5pfSYycLIj1QcWNLerQkgfe-9VmrZfmCh0dTj-ilTFIsj-6qq3OJ6vriTk_hLUxuO6CP8CV6CjM9NSij6MSc/w640-h342/Screenshot%202024-12-30%20at%2013.39.52.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/41bfxxr0Gfr7h6v5LJyJh9s/totally-awesome-seven-ways-you-use-americanisms-every-day&quot;&gt;Some people call that Americani{s/z}ation.&lt;/a&gt; I&#39;m not so sure. It&#39;s not like &lt;i&gt;two weeks&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is a phrase an English speaker would have to learn from Americans. It wasn&#39;t &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2017/02/is-americanization-speeding-up.html&quot;&gt;Americani{s/z}ation&lt;/a&gt; when English speakers stopped saying &lt;i&gt;sennight &lt;/i&gt;(=&#39;seven nights&#39;, like &lt;i&gt;fortnight &lt;/i&gt;= &#39;fourteen nights&#39;) in the 17th century in favo(&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/10/putting-u-in-endeavour.html&quot;&gt;u&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;)r of &lt;i&gt;one week &lt;/i&gt;or &lt;i&gt;a week&lt;/i&gt;. It&#39;s just using another, more transparent expression that your language allows, and allowing the more old-fashioned-feeling one to fall away.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;-----------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;;&quot;&gt;At this point, I am not certain there will be a US-to-UK Word of the Year 2024. If you&#39;re reading this before I post one, you&#39;re still welcome to nominate!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/2283653325170063107/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/12/uk-to-us-word-of-year-2024-fortnight.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/2283653325170063107'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/2283653325170063107'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/12/uk-to-us-word-of-year-2024-fortnight.html' title='UK-to-US Word of the Year 2024: fortnight'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgHB0Z1EAs45apB9yeRRYX0eH8ngqnHxoQ-ll7pYwQG4Bnd0-XSNS6z5kql5_XZtLa5b0sFm9iClteRDTbcWO1dZqHr-Q7u7IMX14zv0w11eaRY5ukkPxIp5CuCVxk-9bEPJmlKLZ0BvEGMqeGuJaYNQVE-IZGMITN6FscbqPLv7VB6AoVaD6SY/s72-w95-h111-c/Screenshot%202024-12-30%20at%2013.53.06.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-7189116803935924993</id><published>2024-12-12T15:26:00.002+00:00</published><updated>2024-12-12T15:30:08.440+00:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="AusE"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="fashion/clothing"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="sport"/><title type='text'>beanie (hat)</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;When I was growing up in New York State, a &lt;b&gt;beanie&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;was a silly kind of skull cap, mostly worn by young people. My high school gave away felt ones like this (though with different letters). At the time, it was a very retro/jokey thing to wear.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj3pB4VHBOt1QYGS5tgvzw24_jQWoilo0Mx1a-uwrCvGMxwC4Y0J8QcIGjtB7nCf-_DEd9BpAbDuu4TdxPVTWwbsqC4HUaIQkRvhEkNwHwuXMDhSKxmvHwMfdcaxgnxxlrkyoaCK7DYrFmel3alT_adRLI0FvQq1390K0YyNtnW31zuYwDVdtPX/s570/beanie.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;428&quot; data-original-width=&quot;570&quot; height=&quot;240&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj3pB4VHBOt1QYGS5tgvzw24_jQWoilo0Mx1a-uwrCvGMxwC4Y0J8QcIGjtB7nCf-_DEd9BpAbDuu4TdxPVTWwbsqC4HUaIQkRvhEkNwHwuXMDhSKxmvHwMfdcaxgnxxlrkyoaCK7DYrFmel3alT_adRLI0FvQq1390K0YyNtnW31zuYwDVdtPX/s320/beanie.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The word &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;beanie&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;is originally an Americanism, derived from &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;bean&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;(also originally AmE),&amp;nbsp;a slang term for &#39;head&#39;. The OED entry for &lt;i&gt;beanie&lt;/i&gt; was written in 1972 and has not been updated since. All its examples hint at felt hats—not necessarily silly ones like the one in the picture, but small hats worn toward the back of the head:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjobhHOwLAAcRaP7sWDGASsKuHWImDKCPz3ophHmOyDIOfAaTNcjXTzsbFiElsA4JdiwkhQN0ZPZGk33rc5RxMrGGE7IoESJDmQNlI66ZbG7DYddKVFtLPk6h9MKgx8dE1aod_SaGlqqAlE6CAGAMkupRUvc8BNWNv4YDWkwtitOwTcZaJWAf7s/s1210/Screenshot%202024-12-12%20at%2014.32.10.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;656&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1210&quot; height=&quot;346&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjobhHOwLAAcRaP7sWDGASsKuHWImDKCPz3ophHmOyDIOfAaTNcjXTzsbFiElsA4JdiwkhQN0ZPZGk33rc5RxMrGGE7IoESJDmQNlI66ZbG7DYddKVFtLPk6h9MKgx8dE1aod_SaGlqqAlE6CAGAMkupRUvc8BNWNv4YDWkwtitOwTcZaJWAf7s/w640-h346/Screenshot%202024-12-12%20at%2014.32.10.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;At some point after I moved to the UK in 2000, I started noticing&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #0b0f14; font-variant-ligatures: no-contextual; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;British folk using &lt;i&gt;beanie&lt;/i&gt; for what I had called a &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;winter hat&lt;/i&gt;, others call a &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/stocking-cap#:~:text=%3A%20a%20knitted%20close%2Dfitting%20cap,pom%2Dpom)%20at%20the%20top&quot;&gt;stocking cap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, and Canadians (and some Americans) would call a &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;toque &lt;/i&gt;(or&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;tuque&lt;/i&gt;). It&#39;s a &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/06/irregular-verbs-gotten-fit-knit.html&quot;&gt;knit(ted)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/b&gt;hat that might be rolled up at the bottom. Soon after that, I started noticing Americans using &lt;i&gt;beanie&lt;/i&gt; (&lt;b&gt;in&lt;/b&gt;) this way. So I was never sure where this use of &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;beanie &lt;/i&gt;had originated. Nevertheless, it&#39;s definitely the predominant sense of the word now.

&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #0b0f14; font-variant-ligatures: no-contextual; white-space-collapse: preserve;&quot;&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj858Qy-2EW0tE9C5fHvQ3HSeszl_43tDTLvN7n4IAdiA3sMz9UrEt0H-ONLRa-p0wDTiwgZDfK-0pAgZMJlGEWwdUpiuAhdY1rSXDQ_7GYD4ki7WKyLeOWB80fAKIs3dAP-ChuUQtcYzgwzDIi9NV_iyzhT_grwYuigLaLXLVIo5-jdDuxs3Pw/s1428/Screenshot%202024-12-12%20at%2015.28.31.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1428&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1120&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj858Qy-2EW0tE9C5fHvQ3HSeszl_43tDTLvN7n4IAdiA3sMz9UrEt0H-ONLRa-p0wDTiwgZDfK-0pAgZMJlGEWwdUpiuAhdY1rSXDQ_7GYD4ki7WKyLeOWB80fAKIs3dAP-ChuUQtcYzgwzDIi9NV_iyzhT_grwYuigLaLXLVIo5-jdDuxs3Pw/s320/Screenshot%202024-12-12%20at%2015.28.31.png&quot; width=&quot;251&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Google Image Search results for &lt;i&gt;beanie&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

For some reason, I was thinking about &lt;i&gt;beanies&lt;/i&gt; yesterday, and so I &lt;a href=&quot;https://bsky.app/profile/lynneguist.bsky.social/post/3ld27meenic2j&quot;&gt;tweeted about them on Bluesky&lt;/a&gt; (yes, I&#39;m reclaiming the word &lt;i&gt;tweet&lt;/i&gt;). &lt;a href=&quot;https://bsky.app/profile/corpusling.bsky.social&quot;&gt;Monika Bednarek&lt;/a&gt;, Professor of Linguistics at the University of Sydney, replied that she thought the knit(ted) hat usage was Australian. Aha!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now, I have no access to Australian dictionaries, and as we&#39;ve seen, the OED is out of date on this. On top of that, there&#39;s no option to look at Australian sources only in Google Books ngrams. But &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beanie_(seamed_cap)&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt; says:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #202122; font-size: 16px;&quot;&gt;In&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand&quot; style=&quot;background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); border-radius: 2px; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 16px; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-decoration-line: none;&quot; title=&quot;New Zealand&quot;&gt;New Zealand&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #202122; font-size: 16px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia&quot; style=&quot;background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); border-radius: 2px; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 16px; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-decoration-line: none;&quot; title=&quot;Australia&quot;&gt;Australia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #202122; font-size: 16px;&quot;&gt;, the term &quot;beanie&quot; is normally applied to a knit cap known as a&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knit_cap&quot; style=&quot;background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); border-radius: 2px; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 16px; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-decoration-line: none;&quot; title=&quot;Knit cap&quot;&gt;toque&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #202122; font-size: 16px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;in Canada and parts of the US, but also may apply to the kind of skull cap historically worn by surf lifesavers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;sans-serif&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color: #202122; font-size: 16px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;and still worn during surf sports.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The lifesaver&#39;s beanie is much more like the silly American school cap. This photo comes from a &lt;a href=&quot;https://nationalpost.com/news/uncool-red-and-yellow-hats-to-stay-on-australias-lifeguards&quot;&gt;National Post article &lt;/a&gt;about Australian lifesavers choosing (some years ago) to continue to wear the hat despite it being &quot;uncool&quot;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi2zmLHHcxywYCEQlJDL8pNpN9fM3ZSCfZrLiJodOVKBXIzaYYxHm6YJefxJRpXPxOc2Y1vihHFVEUi_oEzJOd-3o64dBFrKdIhPT_PvIHbWg8-zwlXdbxM6qVc_wArh8Ya_qkFNLpaWpXYiJbRsBJqXswWRdUaG_-kIl3biwPUfpzKjEyUbvUN/s1128/0621hat.webp&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;846&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1128&quot; height=&quot;240&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi2zmLHHcxywYCEQlJDL8pNpN9fM3ZSCfZrLiJodOVKBXIzaYYxHm6YJefxJRpXPxOc2Y1vihHFVEUi_oEzJOd-3o64dBFrKdIhPT_PvIHbWg8-zwlXdbxM6qVc_wArh8Ya_qkFNLpaWpXYiJbRsBJqXswWRdUaG_-kIl3biwPUfpzKjEyUbvUN/s320/0621hat.webp&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;But surfers seem to like to wear knit(ted) hats, so perhaps it was the association with surfing that transferred the meaning to the knit(ted) kind? Maybe? At any rate, it does look Australian in the 2013 Corpus of Global Web-Based English:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEglI5dEnqunWY94RsDrHuhi7j_GMmRAUv6zW4b2A1nv74VXZ7TTRbxVjzhOWcMSWD7mkbv2q8QxCljxXiTiCg2XvbO1BsxFit24lsyiv2wIfVIUuBp5Z2i27wYgUeLkBCN2I1MtbQrCjza1mJVne9Bj-V21AlChibkvEIS5vyvLCJdmwytzHgiA/s1220/Screenshot%202024-12-12%20at%2014.55.36.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;830&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1220&quot; height=&quot;436&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEglI5dEnqunWY94RsDrHuhi7j_GMmRAUv6zW4b2A1nv74VXZ7TTRbxVjzhOWcMSWD7mkbv2q8QxCljxXiTiCg2XvbO1BsxFit24lsyiv2wIfVIUuBp5Z2i27wYgUeLkBCN2I1MtbQrCjza1mJVne9Bj-V21AlChibkvEIS5vyvLCJdmwytzHgiA/w640-h436/Screenshot%202024-12-12%20at%2014.55.36.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;beanie&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;GloWbE&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since there are a lot of meanings of &lt;i&gt;beanie &lt;/i&gt;(and use in proper names, like &lt;i&gt;Beanie Baby&lt;/i&gt;), I checked again with &lt;i&gt;kn* &lt;/i&gt;before &lt;i&gt;beanie &lt;/i&gt;to capture &lt;i&gt;knit(ted) beanies, &lt;/i&gt;and Australia still dominates:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiC-pKkY5sM3AJ8SIIp9OSFxDiDhRoBad9JmYeZ81HvsPKfJ_L7T3XOdsrs6H4L62zvSgARpGzYCRPZOpMVRi7mNr7MeKL7C6Hqxwe8WOr-u04s_MZjJMedwoHHmwDWt7WDilDQK0DEmg69UQQRaVRxU-gPrkq1sRDCM142l7pi6hxyHURvVgMM/s1136/Screenshot%202024-12-12%20at%2014.56.54.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;814&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1136&quot; height=&quot;458&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiC-pKkY5sM3AJ8SIIp9OSFxDiDhRoBad9JmYeZ81HvsPKfJ_L7T3XOdsrs6H4L62zvSgARpGzYCRPZOpMVRi7mNr7MeKL7C6Hqxwe8WOr-u04s_MZjJMedwoHHmwDWt7WDilDQK0DEmg69UQQRaVRxU-gPrkq1sRDCM142l7pi6hxyHURvVgMM/w640-h458/Screenshot%202024-12-12%20at%2014.56.54.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;kn* beanie &lt;/i&gt;in&amp;nbsp;GloWbE&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now, whether the new use of &lt;i&gt;beanie&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;spread directly from Australia to both US and UK is another question. I suspect it probably travel(l)ed by many routes. Initially, it does look like the new use took off more quickly in the UK (around 2005), and it remains higher there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhJ-SBCmQNamyTf19btxZrb20h335QmgKz4p-83FGSDqdpKpAQmxQ__imz5RhcAABUiipUxmhsh3w7ImafXYqr0Tv_8R5LsiB3bs524aGBP06bVSRjqMpSDq-cHVjEm6l2NBgN651ElziwViZJ9Qw1cl2IUpciN_v94QXwdjlf76OhjGTvfCvFR/s2656/Screenshot%202024-12-11%20at%2016.37.34.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1306&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2656&quot; height=&quot;314&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhJ-SBCmQNamyTf19btxZrb20h335QmgKz4p-83FGSDqdpKpAQmxQ__imz5RhcAABUiipUxmhsh3w7ImafXYqr0Tv_8R5LsiB3bs524aGBP06bVSRjqMpSDq-cHVjEm6l2NBgN651ElziwViZJ9Qw1cl2IUpciN_v94QXwdjlf76OhjGTvfCvFR/w640-h314/Screenshot%202024-12-11%20at%2016.37.34.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;But we don&#39;t know how many of those hits are about &lt;i&gt;Beanie Babies &lt;/i&gt;or other uses of the word. So here it is again with &lt;i&gt;knit &lt;/i&gt;or &lt;i&gt;knitted &lt;/i&gt;before &lt;i&gt;beanie&lt;/i&gt;. The difference in acceleration of the term is no longer evident, though BrE still uses it more than AmE.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLXhAjlV_qDRB3_5il65dD2sSzd8gM1VDNP5AkLL-S4cPMwAIUEtw18Xg-t7K65V8xISV2lc_LzZ7LrtxbjMBAdgAYQtYqW4zSysdnxPRDy0-TT28TiSfSimE6sLLlUwI74HpHH56cdp1r2OSps0FmnSWjAhqh76BASubktlTuUlY11PkLnw4R/s2730/Screenshot%202024-12-12%20at%2015.08.00.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1284&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2730&quot; height=&quot;302&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgLXhAjlV_qDRB3_5il65dD2sSzd8gM1VDNP5AkLL-S4cPMwAIUEtw18Xg-t7K65V8xISV2lc_LzZ7LrtxbjMBAdgAYQtYqW4zSysdnxPRDy0-TT28TiSfSimE6sLLlUwI74HpHH56cdp1r2OSps0FmnSWjAhqh76BASubktlTuUlY11PkLnw4R/w640-h302/Screenshot%202024-12-12%20at%2015.08.00.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;The first ngram graph also shows &lt;i&gt;beanie hat&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in greater numbers in the UK than in the US. This is also true in the Corpus of Global Web-Based English:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjcW1payMnzTl67VGgyDfE0B70E4m2-V5k6n4PoO0r9BA5wQuNijbt9vadxcOYsaVIgRw_M7CbREcjpOq-APi4-bSV6X1HJ-2PxKxaxMEVQhd-WQrE7q4ZcDlOdn3ErzPdjeIF3kzykQl5_kgwdcKpb4Z70OyEtIBYiT5qjHj7oD0d9fOaiPo1Y/s1292/Screenshot%202024-12-11%20at%2016.40.13.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;516&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1292&quot; height=&quot;256&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjcW1payMnzTl67VGgyDfE0B70E4m2-V5k6n4PoO0r9BA5wQuNijbt9vadxcOYsaVIgRw_M7CbREcjpOq-APi4-bSV6X1HJ-2PxKxaxMEVQhd-WQrE7q4ZcDlOdn3ErzPdjeIF3kzykQl5_kgwdcKpb4Z70OyEtIBYiT5qjHj7oD0d9fOaiPo1Y/w640-h256/Screenshot%202024-12-11%20at%2016.40.13.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;This falls into a pattern with &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2009/09/goatee-beard.html&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;goatee beard &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;and &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2015/04/pleonasms.html&quot;&gt;chocolate brownie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, where originally AmE words are sometimes two-word compounds in BrE, presumably because the addition of an &#39;old&#39; word helps people to interpret the less-familiar word.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, an Americanism turned Australianism which was then populari{s/z}ed in US and UK. If English is any one thing, then it is a mutant.&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/7189116803935924993/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/12/beanie-hat.html#comment-form' title='39 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/7189116803935924993'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/7189116803935924993'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/12/beanie-hat.html' title='beanie (hat)'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj3pB4VHBOt1QYGS5tgvzw24_jQWoilo0Mx1a-uwrCvGMxwC4Y0J8QcIGjtB7nCf-_DEd9BpAbDuu4TdxPVTWwbsqC4HUaIQkRvhEkNwHwuXMDhSKxmvHwMfdcaxgnxxlrkyoaCK7DYrFmel3alT_adRLI0FvQq1390K0YyNtnW31zuYwDVdtPX/s72-c/beanie.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>39</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-2946037368654024974</id><published>2024-11-11T22:45:00.005+00:00</published><updated>2024-11-12T13:35:52.017+00:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="determiners"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="idioms"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="metaphor"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="prepositions"/><title type='text'>in (one&#39;s) stride, at (a) pace</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;This post is inspired by a poll that &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.grammartable.com/&quot;&gt;Ellen Jovin, aka the Grammar Table&lt;/a&gt;, ran in September. Before I get into that, let me point out that there is a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rebelwithaclause/rebel-with-a-clause&quot;&gt;Kickstarter&lt;/a&gt; to support the documentary about her spreading grammatical joy across all 50 US states. It&#39;d be lovely to be able to see that film in a (BrE) &lt;b&gt;cinema&lt;/b&gt;/(AmE) &lt;b&gt;theater&lt;/b&gt; or event near you, near me and near everybody. So if you have the wherewithal to support it, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rebelwithaclause/rebel-with-a-clause&quot;&gt;click&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgbY2_JThNKkmtXeRjpHdp036lYUKjD4IwawzYx5UcddtZa-X4W7CUd3wHGQRz1-lHyk70Y_dZBWl8HDS9hDZ-vujZ0hIM2CnXio7pilsy9LHnPXts-NiaKLypAYQBxefJSEfJpP58V8p2vsvJOi15RXKhESJA0o5b4vF5FDQtRYRFKtJk2m7ts/s1446/Screenshot%202024-11-10%20at%2023.33.01.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;860&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1446&quot; height=&quot;238&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgbY2_JThNKkmtXeRjpHdp036lYUKjD4IwawzYx5UcddtZa-X4W7CUd3wHGQRz1-lHyk70Y_dZBWl8HDS9hDZ-vujZ0hIM2CnXio7pilsy9LHnPXts-NiaKLypAYQBxefJSEfJpP58V8p2vsvJOi15RXKhESJA0o5b4vF5FDQtRYRFKtJk2m7ts/w400-h238/Screenshot%202024-11-10%20at%2023.33.01.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rebelwithaclause/rebel-with-a-clause&quot;&gt;https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rebelwithaclause/rebel-with-a-clause&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Now back to our (somewhat) regularly scheduled grammar-gazing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;to take (something) in (one&#39;s) stride&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Ellen asked on social media whether people say &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;take it in stride&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;or &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;take it in one&#39;s stride&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCx9XVJ5_vfjXaEuGBnhJEH30BzZvPzlyn9TusDHYriODUuOGDBmC1n9nt5S1O0Ty8Wzsuq9xNd3rn-aREsOGxJvE56hVL8ubQDw7AGSIWwQRbpKlbh3W6lZ1iDLu72VzUgBUZ-1kTHRao7K0GJoq5gyoq78XOB5tvcjvDeLNxPkWUmiPjIQzk/s964/Screenshot%202024-11-10%20at%2023.21.52.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;526&quot; data-original-width=&quot;964&quot; height=&quot;350&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCx9XVJ5_vfjXaEuGBnhJEH30BzZvPzlyn9TusDHYriODUuOGDBmC1n9nt5S1O0Ty8Wzsuq9xNd3rn-aREsOGxJvE56hVL8ubQDw7AGSIWwQRbpKlbh3W6lZ1iDLu72VzUgBUZ-1kTHRao7K0GJoq5gyoq78XOB5tvcjvDeLNxPkWUmiPjIQzk/w640-h350/Screenshot%202024-11-10%20at%2023.21.52.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;When I see a split like that, I think dialects.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;The version with a possessive pronoun, &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;to take in one&#39;s stride&lt;/i&gt;,&amp;nbsp;is the more British (and non-North American) version:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEibaPxMHuVxTkHH-iw4Ccedrd3ALMLacCurartU2NJ8IUqNgVwPTeUVH0Ze2crKSaS0w8k-LdcgBwsYdCzJwuEquQNMd7CuXeRJBwfHdQ-EIK86whmRLl-MeMyd8nKZ6NhDen5VYxdDEZ5AZvovyGEbG4Tfv3oVBkqt-Ss9N0Of2Q75Th44JBCo/s1552/PRN%20stride.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;918&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1552&quot; height=&quot;378&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEibaPxMHuVxTkHH-iw4Ccedrd3ALMLacCurartU2NJ8IUqNgVwPTeUVH0Ze2crKSaS0w8k-LdcgBwsYdCzJwuEquQNMd7CuXeRJBwfHdQ-EIK86whmRLl-MeMyd8nKZ6NhDen5VYxdDEZ5AZvovyGEbG4Tfv3oVBkqt-Ss9N0Of2Q75Th44JBCo/w640-h378/PRN%20stride.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;And the shorter version, &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;to take in stride&lt;/i&gt;,&amp;nbsp;is the North American:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhh714usJxy1NNF0ooT5ancV5AvW6kcEYzqCvxbM7TLADTPETu6TuWmQZuN3-kfpuzgcvavdlu3eFKWbyd4GXS4sHBQdX_oCVI0dTBZMTOje5_LDrN_VgpH8H8P5g5_2PPKQXYqjOECm7Q9OppprBVKWecTbnLef_UBZ2li847kEbds16KdzlDV/s1442/stride.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;504&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1442&quot; height=&quot;224&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhh714usJxy1NNF0ooT5ancV5AvW6kcEYzqCvxbM7TLADTPETu6TuWmQZuN3-kfpuzgcvavdlu3eFKWbyd4GXS4sHBQdX_oCVI0dTBZMTOje5_LDrN_VgpH8H8P5g5_2PPKQXYqjOECm7Q9OppprBVKWecTbnLef_UBZ2li847kEbds16KdzlDV/w640-h224/stride.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The phrase is a metaphor from horse racing. As the OED defines it:&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;lemma&quot; id=&quot;20180883&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: bold; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;to take in one&#39;s stride&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;: of a horse or its rider, to clear (an obstacle) without checking one&#39;s gallop;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;figurative&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;to deal with (a matter) incidentally, without interrupting one&#39;s course of action, argument, etc. Also (chiefly&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;editorial-label&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; background-repeat: no-repeat; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: 17px; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: italic; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;&quot;&gt;U.S.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #fbfbfb; font-family: Lora, Georgia, serif; font-size: 17px;&quot;&gt;) without possessive adjective.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both;&quot;&gt;It seems to come from the UK in the early-mid 1800s, and then takes off in its possessiveless form in 1930s US. (The possessive-ful lines are low in the following graph because I had to choose just one possessive form to search—I chose &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;for the illustration because it&#39;s the most frequent in this phrase in Google Books.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi1w_GwfRH6K361ee9Wtnz6w-fvWoUe_g6RuqTOCLLC480pXALCkJNeLcSVUGso6Tvpp9SDGq5AkO0JgLmoyiJeBscI8evt5DTVnfJx72Iyyw2D0gPe_L48kSVe8YUdvKXHOIyMEdIksKjIO9iO3LFtSYLR9RSifvmMKhyphenhyphenDXVwsBEpYBVGBJE7x/s1548/Screenshot%202024-11-11%20at%2021.34.48.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;856&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1548&quot; height=&quot;354&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi1w_GwfRH6K361ee9Wtnz6w-fvWoUe_g6RuqTOCLLC480pXALCkJNeLcSVUGso6Tvpp9SDGq5AkO0JgLmoyiJeBscI8evt5DTVnfJx72Iyyw2D0gPe_L48kSVe8YUdvKXHOIyMEdIksKjIO9iO3LFtSYLR9RSifvmMKhyphenhyphenDXVwsBEpYBVGBJE7x/w640-h354/Screenshot%202024-11-11%20at%2021.34.48.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#39;s not clear to me whether AmE speakers back then were familiar with the racing expression. If not, then the expression might not have been recogni{s/z}ed as metaphorical, and therefore might be more likely to change.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But then again, I&#39;m not sure the possessive is absolutely needed—you wouldn&#39;t take something in &lt;i&gt;someone else&#39;s &lt;/i&gt;stride.&amp;nbsp;So maybe Americans dropped the possessive in both literal and metaphorical usage. A horsey person might have to tell us.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;at (a) pace&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;At pace&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;(meaning &#39;moving fast&#39;) is a similar expression—a prepositional phrase involving a noun that alludes to walking—and it has no possessive or other word introducing it. But that doesn&#39;t help us explain the American loss of the possessive in &lt;i&gt;in stride&lt;/i&gt;, since &lt;i&gt;at pace &lt;/i&gt;is a more British and much more recent expression.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhn82oikqrcrEcUPJAQhdgDz7d60MCcVIW1wQoxC4pspL1xdrt0GmOyM4uhT2nMXTr91yBJW9wvsja68ygBaHMmOwlJHDor9MGl3iLl9cjUnqMg63eHTm6jBYMjD0Jh3z4QusiUFHlOA6ZRN2hSNd0aUiz0d7um9qd7bEeDU7cNZQ-_fDU_Pqzk/s1518/Screenshot%202024-11-11%20at%2021.49.02.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;826&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1518&quot; height=&quot;348&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhn82oikqrcrEcUPJAQhdgDz7d60MCcVIW1wQoxC4pspL1xdrt0GmOyM4uhT2nMXTr91yBJW9wvsja68ygBaHMmOwlJHDor9MGl3iLl9cjUnqMg63eHTm6jBYMjD0Jh3z4QusiUFHlOA6ZRN2hSNd0aUiz0d7um9qd7bEeDU7cNZQ-_fDU_Pqzk/w640-h348/Screenshot%202024-11-11%20at%2021.49.02.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;An older version has the indefinite determiner: &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;at a pace&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=at+pace%3Aeng_gb_2019%2Cat+pace%3Aeng_us_2019%2Cat+a+pace%3Aeng_gb_2019%2Cat+a+pace%3Aeng_us_2019&amp;amp;year_start=1900&amp;amp;year_end=2008&amp;amp;corpus=en-2009&amp;amp;smoothing=3&quot;&gt;That&#39;s found in similar numbers in AmE and BrE&lt;/a&gt;. And then there&#39;s the very old (Middle English) expression&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;apace&lt;/i&gt;, which means much the same thing and sounds much like &lt;i&gt;at pace&lt;/i&gt;. It&#39;s possible that &lt;i&gt;at pace &lt;/i&gt;is an &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggcorn&quot;&gt;eggcorn&lt;/a&gt; for &lt;i&gt;apace&lt;/i&gt;, or that it&#39;s &lt;i&gt;at a pace &lt;/i&gt;without the &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt;, or maybe it&#39;s a bit of both—i.e. different people have come to the same form from different angles.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;h3 style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;why?&lt;/h3&gt;So we have two phrases that originally had a determiner* (a possessive pronoun or an article) between a preposition and a noun for a stepping action, and in just one place (but not the same place) the expression has been getting shorter. Why? Well, the basic answer is: language changes and it doesn&#39;t ask anyone&#39;s permission. If it changes in one place it doesn&#39;t need to change in the other. And for set phrases like this, change is likely to be piecemeal. Just because one phrase loses its determiner, doesn&#39;t mean all such phrases will.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Since these expressions have&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2020/01/2019-us-to-uk-word-of-year-gotten.html&quot;&gt; got(ten)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; more and more figurative over the ages (referring to properties like ease and speed, rather than literal steps or paths), the determiners have had less and less work to do. Since they are unstressed syllables, they&#39;re easy to swallow up. So, if they go, we might not miss them, and if they stay they probably won&#39;t bother us. &lt;i&gt;C&#39;est la parole&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;*You&#39;ll see above that &lt;i&gt;OED&lt;/i&gt; calls these things &lt;i&gt;possessive adjectives&lt;/i&gt;. I don&#39;t. They act more like determiners (e.g., &lt;i&gt;a(n)&lt;/i&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;the &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt;) than like adjectives like &lt;i&gt;good &lt;/i&gt;or &lt;i&gt;corporate&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/2946037368654024974/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/11/in-ones-stride-at-pace.html#comment-form' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/2946037368654024974'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/2946037368654024974'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/11/in-ones-stride-at-pace.html' title='in (one&#39;s) stride, at (a) pace'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgbY2_JThNKkmtXeRjpHdp036lYUKjD4IwawzYx5UcddtZa-X4W7CUd3wHGQRz1-lHyk70Y_dZBWl8HDS9hDZ-vujZ0hIM2CnXio7pilsy9LHnPXts-NiaKLypAYQBxefJSEfJpP58V8p2vsvJOi15RXKhESJA0o5b4vF5FDQtRYRFKtJk2m7ts/s72-w400-h238-c/Screenshot%202024-11-10%20at%2023.33.01.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-7843190485307393139</id><published>2024-10-20T22:32:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2024-10-20T22:32:32.611+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="adjectives"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="books"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Britishization"/><title type='text'>one-off and one-of-a-kind</title><content type='html'>Congratulations to Ben Yagoda on his new book &lt;a href=&quot;https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691262291/gobsmacked&quot;&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Gobsmacked: The British Invasion of American English&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;If you like this blog, you are going to like that book. I was both gobsmacked and chuffed to see that I was among the dedicatees of the book (and in wonderful company). It even has an appendix of my &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/search/label/WotY&quot;&gt;UK-to-US Words of the Year&lt;/a&gt;! (And on that note—feel free to start nominating 2024&#39;s Transatlantic Words of the Year.)&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjzxWbrDGamFrJINn-KrUCnVvZ9UXNvYx58NxkWrzF5aRpi2P1_qu48XMmTb52VrBPz0M8e999nJ4hNQ0WBNC0YtotRaXdsCEb-abMrTM6CBB1tdrAkHdj648RyrJLHLkLHX4DZLGycaZxA1h0c-LdkKGPT8PR7pf4HVz9WhSbAAWR1cQxwY8nx/s624/9780691262291.jpeg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;624&quot; data-original-width=&quot;410&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjzxWbrDGamFrJINn-KrUCnVvZ9UXNvYx58NxkWrzF5aRpi2P1_qu48XMmTb52VrBPz0M8e999nJ4hNQ0WBNC0YtotRaXdsCEb-abMrTM6CBB1tdrAkHdj648RyrJLHLkLHX4DZLGycaZxA1h0c-LdkKGPT8PR7pf4HVz9WhSbAAWR1cQxwY8nx/s320/9780691262291.jpeg&quot; width=&quot;210&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Ben has been observing the transit of British English words, pronunciations and grammar for 13 years now at his blog &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Not One-Off Britishisms&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;. So, to celebrate his book, let&#39;s look at &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;one-off&lt;/i&gt;, the Britishism in his blog title.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;One-off&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;can be used as&amp;nbsp;a noun or an adjective to refer to something happens once and won&#39;t happen again.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Ben&#39;s blog evaluates previously British-only expressions that seem to be catching on in American English, and &lt;i&gt;one-off&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;was one he first covered in 2011. In the book,&amp;nbsp;he gives more historical context for both the British and American usage. Google Books charts (nicely redrawn by Eric Hansen in the book) provide a handy view of the trajectory of British words in American publications over time.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the case of &lt;i&gt;one-off&lt;/i&gt;, the first known occurrence of it is in 1930s Britain. It seems to take off in Britain in the 1960s, then shows up in the US in the 1990s, picking up speed as it goes along.&amp;nbsp; Here&#39;s the the relevant bit of the book:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjeKdJbEfyTKadUWFkl0ztuWrDtUZa0yNyqihxxGTNFfypKWLpFFQ88SHPxBSntwVVHdfI4_uDbRXEZGSrEO2TIIs3Q0YzxN2po4dPgIiBTbMiUcErMEqiK21haLreZxCFrWBKYK8l95rIbMGSZmLan3M6yLgSjVIPjbDYQ1iNnJ3dOIUjC3IXn/s3153/IMG_0757.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Graph showing one-off usage in US lagging behind that in UK.&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;3153&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2661&quot; height=&quot;640&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjeKdJbEfyTKadUWFkl0ztuWrDtUZa0yNyqihxxGTNFfypKWLpFFQ88SHPxBSntwVVHdfI4_uDbRXEZGSrEO2TIIs3Q0YzxN2po4dPgIiBTbMiUcErMEqiK21haLreZxCFrWBKYK8l95rIbMGSZmLan3M6yLgSjVIPjbDYQ1iNnJ3dOIUjC3IXn/w540-h640/IMG_0757.jpg&quot; width=&quot;540&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;He also categori{s/z}es each expression as to how entrenched it has become in AmE. In the case of &lt;i&gt;one-off&lt;/i&gt;, it&#39;s&amp;nbsp;&quot;taking hold.&quot;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;While Yagoda keeps track of the migration of Britishisms, my (self-appointed) job on this blog is to give American English translations. &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;O&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;ne-of-a-kind &lt;/b&gt;seems a good candidate&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;But is &lt;i&gt;one-of-a-kind &lt;/i&gt;American English or General English? And is &lt;i&gt;one-off &lt;/i&gt;displacing it at all?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;My first stop is the Corpus of Global Web-Based English, whose data comes from 2012:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLm7QtI69n-YFsLfJuYVFxii8yXKcLf9HR00UMW6oOj5O-aZ0cxN8HEhLaNYlVaZNDJ_Lq3etkwLXRG95KziG4DIyi5qa75Ef_Hub_raoM9flhkngHXO9FPFanSEzZNTCLryoWX4vNoHU2969edvocoBssp1OOEVq0WLBJg1uZr0g8Bhh2e2LZ/s1286/Screenshot%202024-10-20%20at%2020.28.09.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;556&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1286&quot; height=&quot;276&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLm7QtI69n-YFsLfJuYVFxii8yXKcLf9HR00UMW6oOj5O-aZ0cxN8HEhLaNYlVaZNDJ_Lq3etkwLXRG95KziG4DIyi5qa75Ef_Hub_raoM9flhkngHXO9FPFanSEzZNTCLryoWX4vNoHU2969edvocoBssp1OOEVq0WLBJg1uZr0g8Bhh2e2LZ/w640-h276/Screenshot%202024-10-20%20at%2020.28.09.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Now, we don&#39;t always hyphenate &lt;i&gt;one of a kind&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(it depends on how it&#39;s being used in a sentence), but this chart at least gives a sense that &lt;i&gt;one-of-a-kind &lt;/i&gt;is used proportionally less in BrE, since it has &lt;i&gt;one-off &lt;/i&gt;to use instead. In the same corpus, unhyphenated &lt;i&gt;one of a kind&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is still &quot;more North American,&quot; but more gently so: 490 US hits to 320 GB ones.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;All of the&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Oxford English Dictionary &lt;/i&gt;quotations for &lt;i&gt;one-of-a-kind &lt;/i&gt;are North American too—the first one from 1954 by American art critic Arthur C. Danto. (The first unhyphenated one is from 1977.) The &lt;i&gt;OED&lt;/i&gt; does not, however, mark it as an American expression.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Now, &lt;i&gt;one-off &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;one-of-a-kind &lt;/i&gt;aren&#39;t exactly the same thing. &lt;i&gt;One-off &lt;/i&gt;has a more temporal connotation: it&#39;s happened once (and won&#39;t again). That said, you could say, for example, that a person is &lt;i&gt;a one-off &lt;/i&gt;or &lt;i&gt;one of a kind &lt;/i&gt;meaning that they&#39;re a unique kind of person.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So is the existence of &lt;i&gt;one-off&lt;/i&gt; hurting &lt;i&gt;one-of-a-kind? &lt;/i&gt;It happens to be easier to look at the unhyphenated version in Google Ngrams and the hyphenated one in the Corpus of Historical American English, so let&#39;s look at both.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, we can see that &lt;i&gt;one of a kind &lt;/i&gt;has been increasing fairly steadily in both AmE and BrE, but it&#39;s definitely more American. &lt;i&gt;One-off&lt;/i&gt;&#39;s appearance on the American scene has not caused&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;one of a kind &lt;/i&gt;to become less frequent.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhgVkDLadN9WCuVXGs26xHD0O3QSe4qfDdPGw7jLN1AzykY1VX-JrrNOf3YwlhWKjxvB01v4TgYvT8eBj3WFN5rnKHrcblzTFeWJJv8rYchgxkXTgZ5lv2Ghze8nUKFqbiv9iI-7yGOt19VE27GsTSqm6hVvYfeukdFKn-4r_7S957Ryt-Ppf38/s2332/Screenshot%202024-10-20%20at%2022.00.24.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1160&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2332&quot; height=&quot;318&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhgVkDLadN9WCuVXGs26xHD0O3QSe4qfDdPGw7jLN1AzykY1VX-JrrNOf3YwlhWKjxvB01v4TgYvT8eBj3WFN5rnKHrcblzTFeWJJv8rYchgxkXTgZ5lv2Ghze8nUKFqbiv9iI-7yGOt19VE27GsTSqm6hVvYfeukdFKn-4r_7S957Ryt-Ppf38/w640-h318/Screenshot%202024-10-20%20at%2022.00.24.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;And here&#39;s the hyphenated &lt;i&gt;one-of-a-kind &lt;/i&gt;in comparison with &lt;i&gt;one-off &lt;/i&gt;in American English since the 1940s. American use of &lt;i&gt;one-off &lt;/i&gt;has taken off in the 21st century. &lt;i&gt;One-of-a-kind &lt;/i&gt;is still used more, but the gap is closing:&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhKnuz82ToBP6tUcoFaaaCD2UrGbOpj6p43SNEtNdGRvLS_1W52jJnDSmXzkE4S9loT_NlWgiR59VD4bqUVRYsvGXbh_LLjwFOYGPb1X7XEc3fmVVyxCepxSz61eKQymbezLjPh2yPvf90RS62jg0RAHFzHOPH3ModhG46Oqnzk21ecxoMZCUNZ/s1357/Screenshot%202024-10-20%20at%2022.03.54.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;576&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1357&quot; height=&quot;272&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhKnuz82ToBP6tUcoFaaaCD2UrGbOpj6p43SNEtNdGRvLS_1W52jJnDSmXzkE4S9loT_NlWgiR59VD4bqUVRYsvGXbh_LLjwFOYGPb1X7XEc3fmVVyxCepxSz61eKQymbezLjPh2yPvf90RS62jg0RAHFzHOPH3ModhG46Oqnzk21ecxoMZCUNZ/w640-h272/Screenshot%202024-10-20%20at%2022.03.54.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;How are both of these expressions doing so well?&amp;nbsp; Well, it seems to be because everything in the world has &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2020/01/2019-us-to-uk-word-of-year-gotten.html&quot;&gt;got(ten)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; more &lt;b&gt;unique&lt;/b&gt;. Here&#39;s the Google Ngram for &lt;i&gt;unique&lt;/i&gt;, going up-up-up in English generally since World War II.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgwzfnu5-VHboKDk-lL-QZAHwQ-txphL8KUa-b44e3Lt9vzrBAah0w0mSoWklTiu0m8kNBf6prLs-s8hn-C8PDcDSg9tdf_Br6rAU4qD2afzNBxO6K5clM21N-pi8_RRPq0AXUe5iYA_arRnaUETDeabtCUud1bygPOcWfyn_veLYS1BrQUmL_E/s2276/Screenshot%202024-10-20%20at%2022.14.28.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1204&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2276&quot; height=&quot;338&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgwzfnu5-VHboKDk-lL-QZAHwQ-txphL8KUa-b44e3Lt9vzrBAah0w0mSoWklTiu0m8kNBf6prLs-s8hn-C8PDcDSg9tdf_Br6rAU4qD2afzNBxO6K5clM21N-pi8_RRPq0AXUe5iYA_arRnaUETDeabtCUud1bygPOcWfyn_veLYS1BrQUmL_E/w640-h338/Screenshot%202024-10-20%20at%2022.14.28.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;And just for the pedants, here&#39;s the chart for &lt;i&gt;more unique&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh3Y1H6pCLNtGeo-OoRLiEIoRHtIO-CtResPDupntzfadsqZVfbJ1r4PU8_gzYyrFjn1gsOGCV8pRrKeDF22ZQJMOsGF-59n-1Du0m2puLnNOJ-n1cb28Bu_ypf90NUxW0qZvqsF6JoVctWKcHomdxtS9o3UAM23bD6rCKF8rF8kqxRY6EzNvk8/s2316/Screenshot%202024-10-20%20at%2022.16.37.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1106&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2316&quot; height=&quot;306&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh3Y1H6pCLNtGeo-OoRLiEIoRHtIO-CtResPDupntzfadsqZVfbJ1r4PU8_gzYyrFjn1gsOGCV8pRrKeDF22ZQJMOsGF-59n-1Du0m2puLnNOJ-n1cb28Bu_ypf90NUxW0qZvqsF6JoVctWKcHomdxtS9o3UAM23bD6rCKF8rF8kqxRY6EzNvk8/w640-h306/Screenshot%202024-10-20%20at%2022.16.37.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;(I wonder what proportion of the hits for &lt;i&gt;more unique &lt;/i&gt;are just people complaining or warning against &lt;i&gt;more unique&lt;/i&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Anyhow, congratulations to Ben Yagoda on the success of his blog and the publication of his book!&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;And so many thanks for this kind dedication:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjTvRrKyJG7ZJkVkQ9yiE4Cb-vtqTCH8Va3cSqizpk0mmYy2WOaqqdnsgmHitpAysfhCLos5jnDfuD4DWsrNI-L7rGIPHVIdUEyemt21Ejo47E3NzetiYPmFdzfYZQPNWx5nxqWAg7-Sq31cIM-ez3L_FFQOeUkWKrktmyGQGW3xqb7tZeM0jw7/s1000/Dedication.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;750&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1000&quot; height=&quot;300&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjTvRrKyJG7ZJkVkQ9yiE4Cb-vtqTCH8Va3cSqizpk0mmYy2WOaqqdnsgmHitpAysfhCLos5jnDfuD4DWsrNI-L7rGIPHVIdUEyemt21Ejo47E3NzetiYPmFdzfYZQPNWx5nxqWAg7-Sq31cIM-ez3L_FFQOeUkWKrktmyGQGW3xqb7tZeM0jw7/w400-h300/Dedication.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/7843190485307393139/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/10/one-off-and-one-of-kind.html#comment-form' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/7843190485307393139'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/7843190485307393139'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/10/one-off-and-one-of-kind.html' title='one-off and one-of-a-kind'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjzxWbrDGamFrJINn-KrUCnVvZ9UXNvYx58NxkWrzF5aRpi2P1_qu48XMmTb52VrBPz0M8e999nJ4hNQ0WBNC0YtotRaXdsCEb-abMrTM6CBB1tdrAkHdj648RyrJLHLkLHX4DZLGycaZxA1h0c-LdkKGPT8PR7pf4HVz9WhSbAAWR1cQxwY8nx/s72-c/9780691262291.jpeg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-7764535494523463795</id><published>2024-09-15T17:28:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2024-09-16T00:49:37.809+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="count/mass"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="fashion/clothing"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="French"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="hobbies"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="measurement"/><title type='text'>crochet, boondoggle, scoubidou</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Before the school year started, the 16-year-old and I (BrE) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://bsky.app/profile/lynneguist.bsky.social/post/3l47b3rccwi26&quot;&gt;had a day out&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt; at a &quot;Learn to Crochet&quot; course. Here&#39;s my first. slightly (BrE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2012/12/2012-us-to-uk-word-of-year-wonk.html&quot;&gt;wonky&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;(orig AmE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;granny square &lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;(which, according to this site were once called &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;American crochet&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt; in Europe):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjDAZWVhUl19IHXnNfcka5U98_i856-73omIDySwrCAoPD64IUb12M4KYapyXgCitGE67ldaXdY0Y03guiWwbAXqMhvOU_qyYoMju3MMeyb_LH9F2O6GsDFITsDlvTJWJiMT-iDpUHfHu8GQz8lR07ZpEhneqzDgcTVVmJG9I8sisBpUnVXmke6/s4032/2024-08-25%2012.54.16%20copy.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;a dark pink granny square on a wooden background&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;4032&quot; data-original-width=&quot;3024&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjDAZWVhUl19IHXnNfcka5U98_i856-73omIDySwrCAoPD64IUb12M4KYapyXgCitGE67ldaXdY0Y03guiWwbAXqMhvOU_qyYoMju3MMeyb_LH9F2O6GsDFITsDlvTJWJiMT-iDpUHfHu8GQz8lR07ZpEhneqzDgcTVVmJG9I8sisBpUnVXmke6/w300-h400/2024-08-25%2012.54.16%20copy.jpg&quot; width=&quot;300&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/the_seaside_hooker/?hl=en&quot;&gt;The instructor&lt;/a&gt; started by warning to always ascertain the provenance of a crochet pattern before embarking on it because the US and UK terminology differ in potentially disastrous ways. In the take-home materials, we were given two charts. One spells out the differences in names of stitches. What&#39;s called&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;single crochet&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;in AmE is&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;double crochet&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;in BrE—with (orig. BrE)&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2019/12/2019-uk-to-us-word-of-year-knock-on.html&quot;&gt; knock-on&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; effects for other stitches. So, AmE &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;double&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is BrE &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;treble&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, AmE &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;half-double&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is BrE &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;half-treble&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, and AmE &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;triple treble&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is BrE&lt;b&gt; &lt;i&gt;double treble&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg8ty7PEdPZ8jECiiMBHnq_wXcHq6eAX5Gh2VnE7j1G7DH0OXYjfuVS31hRr3NnmTMJiOheess-KexaPwgi06ea03bz19Be-P-MaE90PkFPor8L9bCZBFl5juZBoDwfgt7j2HOS4iPcJunAK9r5I2_QBLsdDrQqa7YfiBlqEB80sfMSLibCjhAW/s1142/Screenshot%202024-08-24%20at%2023.01.03.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Crochet abbreviations conversion table: see paragraph above for the relevant difference&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;720&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1142&quot; height=&quot;404&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg8ty7PEdPZ8jECiiMBHnq_wXcHq6eAX5Gh2VnE7j1G7DH0OXYjfuVS31hRr3NnmTMJiOheess-KexaPwgi06ea03bz19Be-P-MaE90PkFPor8L9bCZBFl5juZBoDwfgt7j2HOS4iPcJunAK9r5I2_QBLsdDrQqa7YfiBlqEB80sfMSLibCjhAW/w640-h404/Screenshot%202024-08-24%20at%2023.01.03.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Now the obvious question is: how can you get to &lt;i&gt;double&lt;/i&gt; without having &lt;i&gt;single&lt;/i&gt; first?&amp;nbsp; The answer (according to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.knitpro.eu/blog/uk-vs-us-crochet-terminology/en&quot;&gt;KnitPro&lt;/a&gt;) is that the BrE is describing the number of loops on one&#39;s hook during the stitch, and the AmE is describing the number of &quot;yarnovers when pulling up your first loop&quot;. &lt;i&gt;Yarn over&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(the site uses it as one word and two) is another difference according to that site: in BrE it&#39;s called &lt;i&gt;yarn over hook.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Yarnover&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is essentially how many actions you&#39;re doing to complete the stitch. That KnitPro page has more description.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Let&#39;s just pause here and note that &lt;i&gt;crochet&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is pronounced differently in the two countries because of the general rule that &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/08/pronouncing-french-words-and-names.html&quot;&gt;for two-syllable French borrowings, BrE stresses the first syllable and AmE the second one&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; And then there&#39;s what happens when AI gets its hand on the pronunciation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhDa1CJhddFb1sduftKRPzn0LVxZEzu_VGz9FqBs3zs0LfxorYwuCLY8aL2eovNl1C8RUsirIvruBa6C8-MWm-1Xcp7JkFIf7qVkePRvZqAYAwsoXWIqXkJMwucC7OBit9L5WveS2B0JhkWEnltxG6g5BLeQXfwqmMgDLHsRHgbpjB6XGztrlkd/s1170/IMG_0676.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Lynneguist on bluesky: The main thing I&#39;ve learned from watching crochet reels is that the automatic voiceover pronounces &#39;crocheter&#39; as &#39;crotch-eater&#39;. If you close your eyes and listen to the narration, it takes on a rather different tone.&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;892&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1170&quot; height=&quot;488&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhDa1CJhddFb1sduftKRPzn0LVxZEzu_VGz9FqBs3zs0LfxorYwuCLY8aL2eovNl1C8RUsirIvruBa6C8-MWm-1Xcp7JkFIf7qVkePRvZqAYAwsoXWIqXkJMwucC7OBit9L5WveS2B0JhkWEnltxG6g5BLeQXfwqmMgDLHsRHgbpjB6XGztrlkd/w640-h488/IMG_0676.jpg&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;But back to the charts the instructor gave us. Just as there are differences in measurements for cooking, the measurements for crochet hooks are different in US and UK because of the &quot;Americans haven&#39;t gone metric&quot; problem. The US uses letter or number sizes, whereas the rest of the world uses more transparent millimeter measures. So, US size B = US size 1 = 2.25mm. From the chart below, it looks like no one knows what size N or P are.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgwSlqEFRgDCNKdLbZ3jBzZcNEaEIAJygNl8L3iLz0lsA9JFwHrfxfLxjMLPR1nt_Pi_Tr6hQYFuvHqKAKHsEuXVQlGnkGpBTMYQSlYQCkqfE3wVtyAu8YT0Ffz7Usz7CId-Tlg75m6PgiyNOZkTk9bZ9tB3ieZGZx-K_Yu2PMhwFFcTX3Xcmno/s1306/Screenshot%202024-08-25%20at%2022.31.35.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;This alt text is copied from the Craft Yarn Council site and may be a bit different from the picture of the chart from my crochet class:  2.25 mm	B-1  2.75 mm	C-2 3.125 mm	D 3.25 mm	D-3 3.50 mm	E-4 3.75 mm	F-5 4 mm	G-6 4.25 mm	G 4.50 mm	7 5 mm	H-8 5.25 mm	I 5.50 mm	I-9 5.75 mm	J 6 mm	J-10 6.50 mm	K-10 ½  8 mm	L-11 9 mm	M/N-13 10 mm	N/P-15 11.50 mm	P-16  15 mm	P/Q&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1188&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1306&quot; height=&quot;582&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgwSlqEFRgDCNKdLbZ3jBzZcNEaEIAJygNl8L3iLz0lsA9JFwHrfxfLxjMLPR1nt_Pi_Tr6hQYFuvHqKAKHsEuXVQlGnkGpBTMYQSlYQCkqfE3wVtyAu8YT0Ffz7Usz7CId-Tlg75m6PgiyNOZkTk9bZ9tB3ieZGZx-K_Yu2PMhwFFcTX3Xcmno/w640-h582/Screenshot%202024-08-25%20at%2022.31.35.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;While knitting stitches generally have the same names in US and UK, knitters have the same problem for knitting needle sizes.&amp;nbsp; You can find more info about these sizes and other conversion problems at the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.craftyarncouncil.com/standards&quot;&gt;Craft Yarn Council website&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; (In my experience, new crochet hooks are likely to have both kinds of size printed on them, and online retailers will indicate both. But if you&#39;re using older hooks, you will probably need a chart like this.)&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Now, this class wasn&#39;t really my first crocheting—I&#39;d done straight lines and zigzag crocheting as a child. Also big in my &lt;b&gt;Girl-Scouting&lt;/b&gt; (UK &lt;b&gt;Girl-Guiding&lt;/b&gt;) childhood was (AmE)&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;boondoggle&lt;/b&gt;. Nowadays, this is an American word that can mean &#39;a wasteful or useless product or activity&#39;, often in reference to (more AmE) &lt;b&gt;government&lt;/b&gt;/(more BrE) &lt;b&gt;public&lt;/b&gt; spending. Originally, it meant &#39;a trivial thing&#39;, from which came to be used for &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/boondoggle&quot;&gt;a kind of twisted leather object &lt;/a&gt;that Boy Scouts used for fixing their kerchiefs (click link for picture). It then extended to the weaving of flat plastic cords that was a popular craft back when I was a kid.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVxfENMtrr7NwALliHZLIPB8GnZoxXLxH0N_6whslkTq9_-kDDaxWn_MxC9r-NlhzQ1UJ3NJk1_jE4nuRcnYFL3Uiqddxuc_r3TJJCbHue71kMUxxVGNVwq5loXr4DnY_vvmEHTqbOaFsaIfKCEgsECSPiS_d7wL6kD4ap1Yyhj3Ky9hNTlmFw/s675/Screenshot%202024-09-15%20at%2016.51.37.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Screenshot of a google result for a Reddit page titled &amp;quot;You guys remember Boondoggle?! Anyone know any other cool stitches?&amp;quot; with three pictures of maybe 6-inch lengths of boondoggle/scoubidou in different colors&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;675&quot; data-original-width=&quot;629&quot; height=&quot;640&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVxfENMtrr7NwALliHZLIPB8GnZoxXLxH0N_6whslkTq9_-kDDaxWn_MxC9r-NlhzQ1UJ3NJk1_jE4nuRcnYFL3Uiqddxuc_r3TJJCbHue71kMUxxVGNVwq5loXr4DnY_vvmEHTqbOaFsaIfKCEgsECSPiS_d7wL6kD4ap1Yyhj3Ky9hNTlmFw/w596-h640/Screenshot%202024-09-15%20at%2016.51.37.png&quot; width=&quot;596&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;And I thought of that this week when the &lt;a href=&quot;https://doodles.google/doodle/celebrating-scoubidous/&quot;&gt;Google Doodle in the UK&lt;/a&gt; was in hono(&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/10/putting-u-in-endeavour.html&quot;&gt;u&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;)r of this craft (which has apparently had a revival), except it had the BrE name for it, borrowed from French: &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;scoubidou.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhxEcHSzHvi4FZKehcBMQqeKOZUy9seP68ctd8VHyX5xMnR3RcWty1NLipv_b7BCE4jYfIzTU1vjLbCnQgQzQ89uKOSxD0NshyZjJES7ZCAOaQiBmMsoR9Kwq5UtC9QSG23y-XI0UAuYJsH8kJfzzMmy_Ugxc60JwTOPsHCesyjFdBjPvBMAqY7/s1000/bafkreib3gitdh6wc7rceub4isdhv5x65adswucjrrdit7p4w7ygfhsrfnm-1.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;Version of the google logo presented in boondoggle/scoubidou braids.&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;400&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1000&quot; height=&quot;256&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhxEcHSzHvi4FZKehcBMQqeKOZUy9seP68ctd8VHyX5xMnR3RcWty1NLipv_b7BCE4jYfIzTU1vjLbCnQgQzQ89uKOSxD0NshyZjJES7ZCAOaQiBmMsoR9Kwq5UtC9QSG23y-XI0UAuYJsH8kJfzzMmy_Ugxc60JwTOPsHCesyjFdBjPvBMAqY7/w640-h256/bafkreib3gitdh6wc7rceub4isdhv5x65adswucjrrdit7p4w7ygfhsrfnm-1.jpg&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Google Doodle was about &quot;Celebrating Scoubidous&quot;. On first reading, &lt;i&gt;scoubidous&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;looked like an adjective to me (&lt;i&gt;SCOUb&#39;dous,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;that which is &lt;i&gt;scoubi?&lt;/i&gt;). Part of the reason I read it wrong the first time (even though I knew the word &lt;i&gt;scoubidou&lt;/i&gt;) is that I wasn&#39;t expecting it to be plurali{s/z}ed.&amp;nbsp; I use &lt;i&gt;boondoggle&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;as a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.unr.edu/writing-speaking-center/writing-speaking-resources/mass-nouns&quot;&gt;mass noun&lt;/a&gt;, so for me&amp;nbsp;the things in the photos are&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;pieces of boondoggle &lt;/i&gt;(or something like that), rather than as &lt;i&gt;boondoggles&lt;/i&gt;. I&#39;m not sure if that&#39;s just me, and there&#39;s too much &#39;government spending&#39; noise in the data for me to quickly check it. (Happy to hear from other former Girl Scouts on the matter.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is &lt;i&gt;scoubidou&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;related to Scooby Doo? Not directly, I think. There was &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoubidou_(song)&quot;&gt;a song &lt;i&gt;Scoubidou&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;in the 1950s, and I suspect that the craft and the cartoon dog were separately named after it. But the dog&#39;s name was for some time spelled/spelt &lt;i&gt;Scoubidou&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;in France.&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/7764535494523463795/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/09/crochet-boondoggle-scoubidou.html#comment-form' title='25 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/7764535494523463795'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/7764535494523463795'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/09/crochet-boondoggle-scoubidou.html' title='crochet, boondoggle, scoubidou'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjDAZWVhUl19IHXnNfcka5U98_i856-73omIDySwrCAoPD64IUb12M4KYapyXgCitGE67ldaXdY0Y03guiWwbAXqMhvOU_qyYoMju3MMeyb_LH9F2O6GsDFITsDlvTJWJiMT-iDpUHfHu8GQz8lR07ZpEhneqzDgcTVVmJG9I8sisBpUnVXmke6/s72-w300-h400-c/2024-08-25%2012.54.16%20copy.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>25</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-3650514793007862516</id><published>2024-08-26T21:34:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2024-08-26T21:34:46.737+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="adjectives"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="morphology"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="pronunciation"/><title type='text'>analogous</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;I listen to a lot of podcasts, and I notice things. One thing I’ve noticed is that no one seems to be able to agree with anyone else without saying &lt;i&gt;100%&lt;/i&gt;. That cliché seems to have caught on in both UK and US, so that’s not the topic of this blog post. This blog post is about another thing I’ve noticed: an apparent change in the British pronunciation of &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;analogous&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;Dictionaries give the pronunciation as /əˈnalə&lt;b&gt;ɡ&lt;/b&gt;əs/ (or similar; all dictionary pronunciations here from the OED). That is to say, the stress is on the second syllable and the ‘g’ is pronounced ‘hard’ as in&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2013/03/og-and-ogue.html&quot;&gt; analog(ue)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;. What I’ve been noticing in BrE speakers is a non-dictionary pronunciation, /əˈnalə&lt;b&gt;ʤ&lt;/b&gt;əs/, which is to say with a ‘soft g’ as in &lt;i&gt;analogy&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;To see how common this pronunciation is, I looked to &lt;a href=&quot;https://youglish.com/pronounce/analogous/english/uk&quot;&gt;YouGlish&lt;/a&gt;, which finds a word in YouTube videos (using the automatic transcription), classifies them by country, and presents them so that you can listen to that word pronounced by lots of people in lots of contexts. The automati{s/z}ation means that it makes mistakes. I wanted to listen to the first ten pronunciations in US and UK, but had to listen to 12 in the ‘UK’ category to get ten that were both British and the right word.&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjtKZ_y_0XboWfvdQix-LWBTXEfF1hjI2y4XA3Q4mVfJjYkFZyek_O-N5O66v81W4X69g8FthbrKZYvfvUTa1dCGISNUcol-8mF2_06Djdf0LeEL1xPvEbDEMBlokoLLgCmORHNZuNJxabsAMxLs-0ECOuQyxhX9TA7TMIQmHKeMHB3a5mPZdzH/s1282/Screenshot%202024-08-26%20at%2022.16.01.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;694&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1282&quot; height=&quot;216&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjtKZ_y_0XboWfvdQix-LWBTXEfF1hjI2y4XA3Q4mVfJjYkFZyek_O-N5O66v81W4X69g8FthbrKZYvfvUTa1dCGISNUcol-8mF2_06Djdf0LeEL1xPvEbDEMBlokoLLgCmORHNZuNJxabsAMxLs-0ECOuQyxhX9TA7TMIQmHKeMHB3a5mPZdzH/w400-h216/Screenshot%202024-08-26%20at%2022.16.01.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.examplesof.net/2013/05/example-of-analogous-organs.html&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: xx-small;&quot;&gt;screenshot from examplesof.net&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;The first British one had a pronunciation that I hadn’t heard before: /əˈnaləɡ&lt;b&gt;ju&lt;/b&gt;əs/, as if the spelling were &lt;i&gt;analog&lt;b&gt;u&lt;/b&gt;ous&lt;/i&gt;. Half (five) of the British ten had the hard ‘g’ pronunciation, four had the soft-g pronunciation I’d been hearing, as if the spelling is &lt;i&gt;analogious&lt;/i&gt; (or &lt;i&gt;analogeous&lt;/i&gt;). All of the first 10 US ones said /əˈnaləɡəs/.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;The word &lt;i&gt;analogous&lt;/i&gt; seems to be more common in AmE. There are 2433 examples of it on US YouGlish, versus 147 examples tagged-as-UK. (The US population is about five times larger than UK’s, and Americans might post videos to YouTube at a higher rate than Britons. So while that’s a very big numerical difference, it doesn’t mean Americans say it16 times more than the British.) That’s in speech. In writing, there’s about twice as much American analogous in the News on the Web corpus:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgt6FYlVpeQQWdyahmHEFWBJoc7-XoYp0b6G_Gkyq-yz14yHga4XiHbcdk_qbgiDjhhFAD9Wyc61LEaIcI2-DSkMi2BU0E5-YYpLx1AVq5riScRgvmea1ZUNYTdtefG2NIcx5949_yXbjlWC8MvfvN0X9dYtmkuUx33R_gmETMjeT127F9cRcjB/s1000/bafkreid7yl24hqoqf4jwudlahszc5scepcrdeij2mvunn5na47ypldx7cm.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;415&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1000&quot; height=&quot;266&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgt6FYlVpeQQWdyahmHEFWBJoc7-XoYp0b6G_Gkyq-yz14yHga4XiHbcdk_qbgiDjhhFAD9Wyc61LEaIcI2-DSkMi2BU0E5-YYpLx1AVq5riScRgvmea1ZUNYTdtefG2NIcx5949_yXbjlWC8MvfvN0X9dYtmkuUx33R_gmETMjeT127F9cRcjB/w640-h266/bafkreid7yl24hqoqf4jwudlahszc5scepcrdeij2mvunn5na47ypldx7cm.jpg&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;So, Americans have presumably heard the word more than Britons have, leading to a more uniform pronunciation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;Now, when people know a word more from reading it than from hearing it, we might expect that they will rely on the spelling to know how it sounds. What’s a bit odd here is that the non-dictionary pronunciations contradict the spelling. Perhaps some people who know the word from print have not fully noticed that the spelling is -&lt;i&gt;gous&lt;/i&gt; and think it’s -&lt;i&gt;gious&lt;/i&gt;. Or perhaps they’re deriving the word anew from their knowledge of other members of that word-family.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; Analog(ue)&lt;/i&gt; = /ˈanəl*ɡ/&amp;nbsp; + &amp;nbsp;-&lt;i&gt;ous&lt;/i&gt; = &lt;i&gt;analogous&lt;/i&gt; /əˈnaləɡəs/&amp;nbsp; [dictionary]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (* different vowels: AmE [ɔ] or [ɑ] &amp;amp; BrE [ɒ])&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;Analogy&lt;/i&gt; = /əˈn*lədʒi/&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; + &amp;nbsp;-&lt;i&gt;ous&lt;/i&gt; &amp;nbsp;= &amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;analogious&lt;/i&gt; &amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;/əˈnaləʤəs/ [non-dictionary]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (* different vowels: AmE [æ] &amp;amp; BrE [a])&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;Analogu&lt;/i&gt;(&lt;i&gt;e&lt;/i&gt;) + /ˈanəl*ɡ/&amp;nbsp;+ &lt;i&gt;ous&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; =&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;analoguous&lt;/i&gt; &amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; /əˈnaləɡjuəs/ [non-dictionary]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;In the last case, the ‘u’ that is silent in &lt;i&gt;analogue&lt;/i&gt; is treated as if it’s ‘really there’ and pronounced in the extended form. This sometimes happens with ‘silent’ final consonants and suffixes. Think of how the ‘silent &lt;i&gt;n&lt;/i&gt;’ in &lt;i&gt;damn&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;autumn&lt;/i&gt; are pronounced in &lt;i&gt;damnation&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;autumnal&lt;/i&gt;. This is a bit different, since it’s a vowel, and I can’t think of another example where a silent final &lt;i&gt;ue&lt;/i&gt; does the same thing. We don’t go from &lt;i&gt;critique&lt;/i&gt; to &lt;i&gt;critiqual&lt;/i&gt; (it’s &lt;i&gt;critical&lt;/i&gt;) and &lt;i&gt;tonguelet&lt;/i&gt; is not pronounced tun-gu-let or tung-u-let: the&lt;i&gt; u&lt;/i&gt; remains silent.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;When I tweeted (or skeeted or something) about the soft-g &lt;i&gt;analogous&lt;/i&gt; pronunciation, some respondents supposed that the -&lt;i&gt;gous&lt;/i&gt; ending is not found in other words, and therefore unfamiliar. (One said they could only think of &lt;i&gt;humongous&lt;/i&gt;, which seems like a jokey word). It is true that &lt;i&gt;analogous&lt;/i&gt; is the most common -&lt;i&gt;gous&lt;/i&gt; word, but the OED lists 153 others, most of them fairly technical terms like &lt;i&gt;homologous&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;tautologous&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;homozygous&lt;/i&gt;, and &lt;i&gt;polyphagous&lt;/i&gt;. There are fewer -&lt;i&gt;gious&lt;/i&gt; words (83), but they’re much more common words: &lt;i&gt;religious&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;prestigious&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;contagious&lt;/i&gt;,&amp;nbsp;etc. The relative frequency of -&lt;i&gt;gious&lt;/i&gt; endings versus -&lt;i&gt;gous&lt;/i&gt; endings may have contagiously spread to &lt;i&gt;analogous&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;But there’s something to notice about &lt;i&gt;contagious&lt;/i&gt; and its -&lt;i&gt;gious&lt;/i&gt; kin and &lt;i&gt;analogous&lt;/i&gt; and its -&lt;i&gt;gous&lt;/i&gt; mates. The main stress in a word like &lt;i&gt;contagious&lt;/i&gt; is in the syllable just before the -&lt;i&gt;gious&lt;/i&gt;, i.e. the penultimate syllable (/kənˈ&lt;b&gt;teɪ&lt;/b&gt;dʒəs/, &lt;i&gt;religious&lt;/i&gt; = /rᵻ&lt;b&gt;ˈlɪ&lt;/b&gt;dʒəs/, &lt;i&gt;prestigious&lt;/i&gt; = BrE /prɛˈ&lt;b&gt;stɪ&lt;/b&gt;dʒəs/ and AmE /prɛˈ&lt;b&gt;sti&lt;/b&gt;dʒəs/ ). (English stress patterns are often best described by counting syllables from the back of the word.) The main stress in &lt;i&gt;analogous&lt;/i&gt; is not on the penultimate syllable, but on the one before (the antepenult). That is, we say &lt;i&gt;aNAlogous&lt;/i&gt; not &lt;i&gt;anaLOgous&lt;/i&gt;, no matter how we pronounce the ‘g’. If soft-g &lt;i&gt;analogous&lt;/i&gt; was surmised from (mis)reading rather than hearing the word, and if it was following the model of words like &lt;i&gt;contagious&lt;/i&gt;, we’d expect it to be pronounced &lt;i&gt;anaLOdʒous&lt;/i&gt;, with some sort of O sound as a stressed vowel. That&#39;s not what&#39;s happening.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;(One way to think of this is that there’s a general pattern that long -ous­ words are stressed on the antepenultimate syllable, but only if we think of the ‘i’ in -gious words as a syllable of its own, which gets elided after the stress pattern has been set. There’s way more to explain about that than I can do in a blog post…and I am relying on decades-old phonology education here.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;Now, I am not a phonologist or a morphologist, so I asked my former colleague and friend Max Wheeler to check my reasoning here. He&#39;s OK&#39;d it and adds:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;div dir=&quot;auto&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #f0f2f5; color: #080809; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, &amp;quot;system-ui&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;.SFNSText-Regular&amp;quot;, sans-serif;&quot;&gt;To make your argument another way, while -&lt;i&gt;gous&lt;/i&gt; is unusual, &#39;-jous&#39; after an unstressed vowel is unparalleled.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div dir=&quot;auto&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #f0f2f5; color: #080809; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, &amp;quot;system-ui&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;.SFNSText-Regular&amp;quot;, sans-serif;&quot;&gt;[...] &lt;i&gt;analogy&lt;/i&gt; is quite a common word, while analogous is much rarer (and&amp;nbsp;&lt;a class=&quot;html-a xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x1hl2dhg x16tdsg8 x1vvkbs&quot; style=&quot;color: #385898; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0px; text-align: inherit;&quot; tabindex=&quot;-1&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;people may not readily connect semantically to&lt;i&gt; analog(ue)&lt;/i&gt;). Even people with a literary education are unfamiliar with the /g/ - /j/ alternation, so &#39;mispronounce&#39; &lt;i&gt;fungi&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;pedagogy&lt;/i&gt;, as well as &lt;i&gt;analogous&lt;/i&gt;, taking no guidance from the spelling. The phoneme from the more frequent word-form wins.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The moral of the story: soft-g &lt;i&gt;analogous&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is a bit weird—which is to say, a bit interesting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;If you liked this post, you might like:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2013/03/og-and-ogue.html&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;-og&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;-ogue&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2017/03/ousness.html&quot;&gt;-ousness&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;p1&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;; font-feature-settings: normal; font-kerning: auto; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variation-settings: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/07/conflab.html&quot;&gt;conflab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/3650514793007862516/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/08/analogous.html#comment-form' title='30 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3650514793007862516'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/3650514793007862516'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/08/analogous.html' title='analogous'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjtKZ_y_0XboWfvdQix-LWBTXEfF1hjI2y4XA3Q4mVfJjYkFZyek_O-N5O66v81W4X69g8FthbrKZYvfvUTa1dCGISNUcol-8mF2_06Djdf0LeEL1xPvEbDEMBlokoLLgCmORHNZuNJxabsAMxLs-0ECOuQyxhX9TA7TMIQmHKeMHB3a5mPZdzH/s72-w400-h216-c/Screenshot%202024-08-26%20at%2022.16.01.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>30</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-4856007928888213140</id><published>2024-08-05T05:00:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2024-08-05T16:20:38.201+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="education"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="rituals"/><title type='text'>graduation</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgHgmeFeQFsJdAbcXEKt1YQDEHO-MexCtHEAKyW0WHrX-fJRVUHBb7OvxaQD-5OacGv6ewcYGgLYKB2_5Zg1DfhuwImo25okH1uXl-oK_U6fhY5Yb_G8crNAqyHVoVLOYKtSJfj1r-UAEuS2TjVNLEunhenXKLbx4Lo9amEbbJGuelhkgI_MqWu/s3191/IMG_0598.heic&quot; style=&quot;clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;3022&quot; data-original-width=&quot;3191&quot; height=&quot;303&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgHgmeFeQFsJdAbcXEKt1YQDEHO-MexCtHEAKyW0WHrX-fJRVUHBb7OvxaQD-5OacGv6ewcYGgLYKB2_5Zg1DfhuwImo25okH1uXl-oK_U6fhY5Yb_G8crNAqyHVoVLOYKtSJfj1r-UAEuS2TjVNLEunhenXKLbx4Lo9amEbbJGuelhkgI_MqWu/s320/IMG_0598.heic&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I&#39;m in the US at the moment, where two of my nephews have recently finished (mostly now AmE in this sense) &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/12/types-of-schools-school-years.html&quot;&gt;high school&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. That is to say, they (AmE) &lt;b&gt;graduated&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;from high school. Though their graduation ceremonies were in June, they are still in the midst of graduation party season—and we arrived in time to attend one of those parties.&amp;nbsp;Invitations are extended to extended family, family friends, the graduate&#39;s classmates/friends and their nuclear families. And all family units who attend will bring a gift for the graduate. Back when I graduated, these were mostly presents you could unwrap. Dictionaries were common graduation gifts, and I recall getting a &amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;cookbook&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;(orig. more AmE, vs BrE&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;cookery book&lt;/b&gt;) and things for my (AmE) &lt;b&gt;dorm room&lt;/b&gt;. I also got two handmade dolls, meant to represent me as a graduate—and since I&#39;m at my childhood home, you get to see them. They&#39;re looking pretty good at 41 years old.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These days, graduation presents mostly come in envelopes. My first stop on this US trip was at the bank, to get some crisp &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/06/bills-notes.html&quot;&gt;(AmE) &lt;b&gt;bills&lt;/b&gt;/(BrE) &lt;b&gt;banknotes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; to slip into cards for the two nephews as well my niece, who has a freshly minted BSc in Economics. (If you&#39;ve read &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://theprodigaltongue.com/&quot;&gt;The Prodigal Tongue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, you&#39;ve met her before. She was the niece who had things to say about British &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2014/05/sandwiches-more-particularly-bacon.html&quot; style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;bacon&lt;/a&gt;.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;High school graduation parties are generally not held in England—partly because there one does not &lt;b&gt;graduate&lt;/b&gt; from high school. &lt;b&gt;Graduation&lt;/b&gt; is only for those who get a degree from a university. But even when people graduate with a degree, family parties like this are not common. Generally, Americans do a lot more of this kind of party-throwing and gift-giving to mark life transitions (and help out a bit). See the earlier post about &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2008/07/showers.html&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;showers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, my 16-year-old (aka &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2008/01/baby-talk-introducing-grover.html&quot;&gt;Grover&lt;/a&gt;) has recently finished secondary school in England. (Her secondary school, as it happens and unusually for England, has &lt;i&gt;high school &lt;/i&gt;in its name.) Before school finished, she took 27 exams over 6 weeks in 9 subjects—this is what&#39;s known as the &lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/12/types-of-schools-school-years.html&quot;&gt;GCSEs (General Certificate[s] of Secondary Education)&lt;/a&gt;. (NB: Many of the educational issues that come up here have been described in previous blog posts—rather than clicking on each link here, you might want to save your efforts for the &#39;related posts&#39; links below.) Grover won&#39;t know her results in those exams till late August, when she&#39;ll be able to enrol(l) in the&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/12/types-of-schools-school-years.html&quot;&gt;sixth-form college&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;that&#39;s accepted her. (Though she&#39;s accepted to the college, she won&#39;t know until she has her exam results whether she&#39;s met the prerequisites for the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/12/types-of-schools-school-years.html&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;A-level subjects &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;she&#39;s chosen.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Her status has been difficult to explain to her American family. Sixth-form college is not what Americans think of as college, which would be called&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2022/01/uk-to-us-word-of-year-2021-university.html&quot;&gt;university&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;in BrE. In England, sixth-form (and many other diverse things!) counts as &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/12/types-of-schools-school-years.html&quot;&gt;further education&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;—after secondary school, but not degree-level study. In an effort to translate her status, she&#39;s started telling Americans that she&#39;s graduated. Her reasoning for this is that (a) they had a little ceremony in an assembly on their last day of school, (b) she&#39;s going to something called &lt;i&gt;college&lt;/i&gt;, and (c) she&#39;s had a &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2007/05/proms.html&quot;&gt;prom&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;(an imitation of the American tradition for these younger students). But since she doesn&#39;t even know whether she&#39;s passed her exams,* it can&#39;t really be counted as &quot;graduating&quot;, can it? I have suggested to her that she may be misrepresenting her situation. She doesn&#39;t mind. It might yet pay off...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg9bvkniDW3VNo5bcbI5N2x7DMG1mS_DEps_TSJDh9VGkVwWQg-73qgSEdjuXe0TR8-pNi-uq6NAIl7nvP8-cmTf2_uBuHve-_V___37KCyhm74MPrIA3rfzl7__M9R21J7-sGI5EeLyHTysEEtNkMSAEYh8S70AkkgTGNTWvgOrhm2FeSK_Atk/s1272/Screenshot%202024-08-05%20at%2004.46.25.png&quot; style=&quot;clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1130&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1272&quot; height=&quot;284&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg9bvkniDW3VNo5bcbI5N2x7DMG1mS_DEps_TSJDh9VGkVwWQg-73qgSEdjuXe0TR8-pNi-uq6NAIl7nvP8-cmTf2_uBuHve-_V___37KCyhm74MPrIA3rfzl7__M9R21J7-sGI5EeLyHTysEEtNkMSAEYh8S70AkkgTGNTWvgOrhm2FeSK_Atk/s320/Screenshot%202024-08-05%20at%2004.46.25.png&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What she is, in Britain, is a school &lt;b&gt;leaver&lt;/b&gt;. Instead of getting a mortar board and gown, she got a (orig. BrE) &lt;b&gt;hoodie&lt;/b&gt;. (&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1697699440/school-leavers-hoodie-school-leavers?gpla=1&amp;amp;gao=1&amp;amp;&amp;amp;utm_source=google&amp;amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;amp;utm_campaign=shopping_uk_en_gb_d-clothing-other&amp;amp;utm_custom1=_k_Cj0KCQjwzby1BhCQARIsAJ_0t5Mjn_FZiasQqNrqHQrBhyYJhzauclCRoltm0IAajKr-8isyWbMDmA0aAkHlEALw_wcB_k_&amp;amp;utm_content=go_6479444526_84553808344_380837562138_pla-297616371983_c__1697699440engb_140442417&amp;amp;utm_custom2=6479444526&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwzby1BhCQARIsAJ_0t5Mjn_FZiasQqNrqHQrBhyYJhzauclCRoltm0IAajKr-8isyWbMDmA0aAkHlEALw_wcB&quot;&gt;Pic here from an Etsy shop&lt;/a&gt;. Grover&#39;s hoodie is back in Brighton.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;*Oh, I&#39;m sure she&#39;s passed. Whether she&#39;s got the prerequisite grades is another matter, so it&#39;s all a bit stressful.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiELQDArdtvEJWIyesMRTwvTiiRSNXv3YH6XNOFhOcfX_exY-VTav8MQeAU8KIcRPpbILXm6U9xbgCqKjwemmFMoYo28b50qgKaNb3veij4ARXBol6IZaIKwVBFmWTNB86xTDZ0pASvtFKLH9-8-dIVMQzfmVXPnHK8h2mWgfggeVpgv8zSttDD/s1376/Screenshot%202024-08-05%20at%2016.19.46.png&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1376&quot; data-original-width=&quot;682&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiELQDArdtvEJWIyesMRTwvTiiRSNXv3YH6XNOFhOcfX_exY-VTav8MQeAU8KIcRPpbILXm6U9xbgCqKjwemmFMoYo28b50qgKaNb3veij4ARXBol6IZaIKwVBFmWTNB86xTDZ0pASvtFKLH9-8-dIVMQzfmVXPnHK8h2mWgfggeVpgv8zSttDD/s320/Screenshot%202024-08-05%20at%2016.19.46.png&quot; width=&quot;159&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;PS: While on this holiday, I have missed the University of Sussex graduation. I usually go, but since Grover&#39;s school ended early this year, we took advantage of being able to travel before the prices go insane during the (BrE) &lt;b&gt;school holidays&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp;(As Paul in the comments section notes, GCSE students just stop going to school after their last exam—it&#39;s very anticlimatic, but it got G out of school about a month earlier than usual. We hung around for the prom in early July.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;So, I want to say: Congratulations to our BA English Language and Linguistics and BA&amp;nbsp;English Language and Literature&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: large;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;graduates of 2024! Here&#39;s the outfit you didn&#39;t get to see me wear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;Related posts:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/12/types-of-schools-school-years.html&quot;&gt;Types of schools and school years&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;(the one that&#39;s linked-to a LOT above!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2022/01/uk-to-us-word-of-year-2021-university.html&quot;&gt;2021 UK-to-US Word of the Year: university&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2008/04/academic-titles-and-address.html&quot;&gt;Academic titles and address&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/search/label/education&quot;&gt;And lots of others with the Education label&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/4856007928888213140/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/08/graduation.html#comment-form' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/4856007928888213140'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/4856007928888213140'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/08/graduation.html' title='graduation'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgHgmeFeQFsJdAbcXEKt1YQDEHO-MexCtHEAKyW0WHrX-fJRVUHBb7OvxaQD-5OacGv6ewcYGgLYKB2_5Zg1DfhuwImo25okH1uXl-oK_U6fhY5Yb_G8crNAqyHVoVLOYKtSJfj1r-UAEuS2TjVNLEunhenXKLbx4Lo9amEbbJGuelhkgI_MqWu/s72-c/IMG_0598.heic" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28787909.post-8771261383888597984</id><published>2024-07-15T01:08:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2024-07-16T01:11:14.510+01:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="clipping"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="OrigAmENowBrE"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="pronunciation"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="spelling"/><title type='text'>conf(l)ab</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;I&#39;ve just found a bunch of research on my computer about&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;conflab&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;I can&#39;t remember why I saved a bunch of corpus results on it, but maybe it was &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2008/01/seasons-and-series.html&quot;&gt;season/series&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 5 of &lt;i&gt;Succession &lt;/i&gt;that brought it to my attention, when an Australian actress playing an Anglo-American rich person said it in &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2013/03/og-and-ogue.html&quot;&gt;dialog(ue&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;written by a rather British writing team:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj01oya-8LGaJ2eSA-buuv0Ffld8uiE_q16dlUZD88M8QiXi7wL_6bOUvFto0yLXvddwPqLNrI-apkVICDkkC_W6TQzy4ZFJ7WLSNEJCOWvBWtvlVq90FEafZtPb7roNSCgTbdWAlz4khvKxfA60eUkxDgMmKwhbW1T62r4URN9GtF43vNof0Zx/s1590/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.21.10.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;The character Shiv Roy on Succession with captioned speech: &amp;quot;Uh, what&#39;s the conflab? Boomers versus zoomers?&amp;quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;794&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1590&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj01oya-8LGaJ2eSA-buuv0Ffld8uiE_q16dlUZD88M8QiXi7wL_6bOUvFto0yLXvddwPqLNrI-apkVICDkkC_W6TQzy4ZFJ7WLSNEJCOWvBWtvlVq90FEafZtPb7roNSCgTbdWAlz4khvKxfA60eUkxDgMmKwhbW1T62r4URN9GtF43vNof0Zx/w640-h320/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.21.10.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I knew the word &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;confab&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, a shortening of &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;confabulation&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, and I&#39;m pretty sure I&#39;d heard &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;conflab&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;before and dismissed it as a speech error. This time, I did the responsible thing and looked it up. It&#39;s not a speech error.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Confabulation&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;came into English in the 15th century from Latin, meaning &#39;a conversation&#39;. (In the 20th century, it acquired a psychiatric meaning: &#39;a hallucination of a memory&#39;. That newer meaning is irrelevant to the abbreviated forms I&#39;m discussing here.) A &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;confab&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is a conversation, an argument, or (in a later development) a conference or the like. It&#39;s an informal word, as clippings often are, and sounds a bit jokey—but it&#39;s surprisingly old.&amp;nbsp; (Surprising to me, at least.) The first &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.oed.com/?tl=true&quot;&gt;OED&lt;/a&gt; citation is a British one from 1701. The second is from Thomas Jefferson in 1763, so it was not unknown in America back then. &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://greensdictofslang.com/entry/ryech2i&quot;&gt;Green&#39;s Dictionary of Slang&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; has a few more British examples from the 18th century:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgR_LqEerj2TBsmQ9_WmWPvt_Wi-4Zn8kbToVx9tFoCX-p14kErybrhxOZ9ZyOgAN0zUclgYRqZN0_z3Qb0owq2Ff8coBmd3rHtT0IHlEJNRCrcNSUB-cDKpdgzGgZz0z1iRcqSgbvZQls9AtSAviRLZw_kE8DQYnj9QaUYzhLeH3F2UmNsTFUQ/s1118/Screenshot%202024-07-14%20at%2023.59.34.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1118&quot; data-original-width=&quot;962&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgR_LqEerj2TBsmQ9_WmWPvt_Wi-4Zn8kbToVx9tFoCX-p14kErybrhxOZ9ZyOgAN0zUclgYRqZN0_z3Qb0owq2Ff8coBmd3rHtT0IHlEJNRCrcNSUB-cDKpdgzGgZz0z1iRcqSgbvZQls9AtSAviRLZw_kE8DQYnj9QaUYzhLeH3F2UmNsTFUQ/w344-h400/Screenshot%202024-07-14%20at%2023.59.34.png&quot; width=&quot;344&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The OED marks&amp;nbsp;&lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;conflab&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;as &#39;chiefly U.S.&#39;, with its first citation being from Kansas in 1873:&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjuXw9tnZnGqps9igHa_ScfZw9AFfx8whDB9kF2Xun5sann_d54-nuHfj2kYSJSof3Ct8TEDPlnYOcudI0jjf0b2bQjySXTOvTQHRq32bklLcsq_Rj8skFRwJvfmt223DtaGr7HAlL-WjGu_cCvpPGhb6XBpMIGJ-fDcpd0rtJzJmLJ1Dmvz4Uj/s796/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.04.26.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;792&quot; data-original-width=&quot;796&quot; height=&quot;318&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjuXw9tnZnGqps9igHa_ScfZw9AFfx8whDB9kF2Xun5sann_d54-nuHfj2kYSJSof3Ct8TEDPlnYOcudI0jjf0b2bQjySXTOvTQHRq32bklLcsq_Rj8skFRwJvfmt223DtaGr7HAlL-WjGu_cCvpPGhb6XBpMIGJ-fDcpd0rtJzJmLJ1Dmvz4Uj/s320/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.04.26.png&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Green marks it as American as well. His 1843 example is from a book published in Philadelphia. BUT before the 1873 Kansas citation, he has who British ones:&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg8ONu7CPOWuU06iHK5kf2tvJZ3QJoSgsCr4VS6Cg4A17wiyLlknSOvpYxW8gn7CGOnou_UvfoTIi3dGS-Eikg88QfkMpeOO53AA7NWI4l39GcSu792Y6aAygkzTLf9ST-jeT6mgniNMJ8H8r98e6_vJxZ7wCJXNozXOyfUwdKC11fj17PKbL0n/s1050/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.05.45.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1050&quot; data-original-width=&quot;958&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg8ONu7CPOWuU06iHK5kf2tvJZ3QJoSgsCr4VS6Cg4A17wiyLlknSOvpYxW8gn7CGOnou_UvfoTIi3dGS-Eikg88QfkMpeOO53AA7NWI4l39GcSu792Y6aAygkzTLf9ST-jeT6mgniNMJ8H8r98e6_vJxZ7wCJXNozXOyfUwdKC11fj17PKbL0n/w365-h400/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.05.45.png&quot; width=&quot;365&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So is &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;conflab&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; an Americanism?&amp;nbsp; Well, whatever its origin, it is more British now.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/now/&quot;&gt;News on the Web Corpus&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;confab&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;occurs 91 times in the BrE subcorpus (0.03 pmw)&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;C&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;onflab&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;occurs 43 times (0.02 per million words)—so 1 out of 3 British&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;conf(l)ab&lt;/i&gt;s&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;conflab&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Confab&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is a much more common word in AmE than in BrE in the NOW corpus, occurring 1,494 times (0.20 pmw). Apparently, it&#39;s a popular word among American journalists. &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conflab&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;only occurs&amp;nbsp;4 times (0.00 pmw).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/glowbe/&quot;&gt;The&amp;nbsp;Corpus of Global Web-Based English &lt;/a&gt;shows a similar situation, with &lt;i style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;confab &lt;/i&gt;far outnumbering&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;conflab&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;in AmE, but the L-ful form accounting for over 40% of BrE&#39;s&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;conf(l)ab&lt;/i&gt;s.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj29H4F7piIzph221T9et-4vZufBQbaDsPXLKt1VRF1KTNZD-_3JL5Vo635tIeSkkNGgsYfyd7szGRhwWnwmTOMU6Kao1S1DeHgJico1NQnCfE1x8Em56xKu-5kEA8GdmUv6yKkORnZE3Z_tevYzr4DriwRjQr2JlzKq9lR1XQckwbh2oCPLpv1/s910/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.28.20.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;528&quot; data-original-width=&quot;910&quot; height=&quot;233&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj29H4F7piIzph221T9et-4vZufBQbaDsPXLKt1VRF1KTNZD-_3JL5Vo635tIeSkkNGgsYfyd7szGRhwWnwmTOMU6Kao1S1DeHgJico1NQnCfE1x8Em56xKu-5kEA8GdmUv6yKkORnZE3Z_tevYzr4DriwRjQr2JlzKq9lR1XQckwbh2oCPLpv1/w400-h233/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.28.20.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;What&#39;s happened here?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;Hypothesis 1:&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;Conflab &lt;/i&gt;has always been more British than American.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Hypothesis 2: &lt;i&gt;Conflab&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;started in the US, and subsequently withered there, but not before it had been taken up in the UK.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hypothesis 1 is semi-supported by Green&#39;s early examples, but not much else. The only historical BrE corpus I have quick access to is &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/hansard/&quot;&gt;Hansard&lt;/a&gt;, the parliamentary record. That&#39;s not going to have a lot of informal language in it. For what it&#39;s worth, here&#39;s what it has for &lt;i&gt;conf(l)ab(s)&lt;/i&gt;: a total of 18 without L and 3 with L. The L-less ones get going in the 1900s and the L-ful ones are all after 1950. But I don&#39;t think we can make a lot of conclusions based on this particular data.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifjK4hzbmiwI4DVxWOajsb5xudGGKydSVslqILX0JE68fJHrlQZZqOOO8geIDhyphenhyphenVIaKQi4E2zSa99qEE-a1hQ3djelNx1bjRjEJYxD1zeR-TJziZeH1CC8GDpTvl_2gX_2WKvzU02kwhFkB-EVvhUv4wd-2ApOK4YfZ9jd6BYL-WuPRPY9YHxp/s2318/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.55.06.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;684&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2318&quot; height=&quot;188&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifjK4hzbmiwI4DVxWOajsb5xudGGKydSVslqILX0JE68fJHrlQZZqOOO8geIDhyphenhyphenVIaKQi4E2zSa99qEE-a1hQ3djelNx1bjRjEJYxD1zeR-TJziZeH1CC8GDpTvl_2gX_2WKvzU02kwhFkB-EVvhUv4wd-2ApOK4YfZ9jd6BYL-WuPRPY9YHxp/w640-h188/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.55.06.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.english-corpora.org/coha/&quot;&gt;Corpus of Historical American English&lt;/a&gt; has only one (1850s) example of &lt;i&gt;conflab&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(and none of &lt;i&gt;conflabs&lt;/i&gt;), but over 150&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;confab(s)&lt;/i&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh4C_PoxoDLOA66sKiybM-LlC1Smy4FhfDmKwLzb_gOjXCmBAdfHrVAglyw5ja-q2Gr896pjAXR3HMi0iczm48Crhj8N68v1u3TPgb5W2Kjx9qjmo6YakAC7hgmhVy7X0aMkCpz9RRJPvBeAbKRHuXXElrSnDxd1FqLpTx09Dsd_s2OyqapjqtX/s2310/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.43.54.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;634&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2310&quot; height=&quot;176&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh4C_PoxoDLOA66sKiybM-LlC1Smy4FhfDmKwLzb_gOjXCmBAdfHrVAglyw5ja-q2Gr896pjAXR3HMi0iczm48Crhj8N68v1u3TPgb5W2Kjx9qjmo6YakAC7hgmhVy7X0aMkCpz9RRJPvBeAbKRHuXXElrSnDxd1FqLpTx09Dsd_s2OyqapjqtX/w640-h176/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.43.54.png&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;In other words, no matter where it started, &lt;i&gt;conflab&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;never really found its footing in AmE.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;We&#39;ve seen other cases before where something that started in the US was forgotten in AmE but retained in BrE. Of course, saying that, I now can&#39;t remember which ones we&#39;ve said that for, except that it was true of&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://x.com/lynneguist/status/1432734934049988609&quot;&gt;quick-fire&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;(link is to a Twitter/X post). If you remember others, remind me in the comments and I&#39;ll start &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.blogger.com/blog/posts/28787909?q=label%3AOrigAmENowBrE&quot;&gt;a category tag&lt;/a&gt; for these!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;PS: Jonathon Green, he of the dictionary (aka Mister Slang), sent me this reply via BlueSky. A big thank-you to him!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjw7MK0NDT9DRCEdNpnAo6jyN4VKInZb7GejQxDFv9KrjV8uAKZPJPtnldlGPX1mSl4KtCY2-XlbQppzaT6qNGdSvOoy2xpqwVbgo0zrPDE1ReDh4serBcyWL0wooHEDJnEEm9LLJWGmyFed0KqcQ0rdFlSjt4_vHhUlmQmlo8MKqk_FfWKBqo6/s1000/bafkreifpgwlchccdpw2nlw7tovqvwjfqiw5uygn3intnegu3vow3damhcm.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1000&quot; data-original-width=&quot;841&quot; height=&quot;640&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjw7MK0NDT9DRCEdNpnAo6jyN4VKInZb7GejQxDFv9KrjV8uAKZPJPtnldlGPX1mSl4KtCY2-XlbQppzaT6qNGdSvOoy2xpqwVbgo0zrPDE1ReDh4serBcyWL0wooHEDJnEEm9LLJWGmyFed0KqcQ0rdFlSjt4_vHhUlmQmlo8MKqk_FfWKBqo6/w538-h640/bafkreifpgwlchccdpw2nlw7tovqvwjfqiw5uygn3intnegu3vow3damhcm.jpg&quot; width=&quot;538&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/feeds/8771261383888597984/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/07/conflab.html#comment-form' title='17 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/8771261383888597984'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28787909/posts/default/8771261383888597984'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2024/07/conflab.html' title='conf(l)ab'/><author><name>lynneguist</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10171345732985610861</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqUjqSvwtSCV0R-VSDirmMUtyBzgA4jsCN9uGAtAUtG-6DTV9pgPcVWWE9Y4e3Vq5dMWFmNhCocNAPrUqY740UK7EOIa_NTi_tDRxpjZ94kyUfMymcbWsHtJwPhDppTu0/s113/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj01oya-8LGaJ2eSA-buuv0Ffld8uiE_q16dlUZD88M8QiXi7wL_6bOUvFto0yLXvddwPqLNrI-apkVICDkkC_W6TQzy4ZFJ7WLSNEJCOWvBWtvlVq90FEafZtPb7roNSCgTbdWAlz4khvKxfA60eUkxDgMmKwhbW1T62r4URN9GtF43vNof0Zx/s72-w640-h320-c/Screenshot%202024-07-15%20at%2000.21.10.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>17</thr:total></entry></feed>