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Akshaya Patra team with Honorary Guest&lt;/div&gt;
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and Keynote Speaker. (Left to Right)&lt;/div&gt;
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Dr. Desh Deshpande, Piyali Dutta, Jaishree Deshpande,&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;CHICAGO: The Chicago Chapter of Akshaya Patra Foundation (APF) held 
its annual fundraiser recently at Intercontinental O’Hare, Rosemont, a 
north side suburb of Chicago and received overwhelming community support
 for its great cause.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;A live auction was conducted where several donated items were sold to
 the highest bidder. Pledges amounting to $150,000 were made to support 
schools where meals are delivered. The event hosted over 200 attendees 
from the Chicagoland.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Hunger is a problem that over 50 million children are battling 
silently in India. It keeps these children out of school and forces them
 to take menial jobs to bring home food for their families. Hunger also 
impedes their ability to learn.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;The Foundation is one of the world’s largest NGOs which runs school 
meal programs serving over 1.3 million children daily in over 9,000 
schools from 19 kitchens in nine states in India.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;A public-private partnership, Akshaya Patra combines good management,
 innovative technology and smart engineering to deliver school lunches 
at a fraction of the cost of similar programs in other parts of the 
world. The APF is the world’s largest non-governmental organization that
 feeds children. The Global Journal also ranked Akshaya Patra 1st in the
 world for NGOs working to improve the lives of children and youth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;This event was chaired by Parminder Sawhney who in her welcome speech
 exhorted everyone to get involved and provide a chance to change the 
lives of underprivileged children in India. She credited her team 
members Jasneet Edke, Lubaina Raj, Neha Patodia, Ragini Shekhawat, Anu 
Aggarwal and Tanu Singh for working hard to ensure the success of this 
event.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Dr. Gururaj “Desh” Deshpande, Chairman and Interim CEO of APF USA 
gave a complete overview of the organization right from its inception to
 its current operation in 9 states of India. The guest speaker at this 
event was Dr. Sunil Kumar, Dean of Chicago Booth School of Business. 
Special dignitary who graced this benefit was Dr. Sam Pitroda who serves
 as Chairman of India’s National Knowledge Commission&lt;br /&gt;
Dr. Pitroda remarked that Akshaya Patra is an excellent public/private 
partnership model benefiting a large number of children in India.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;He added that the Govt. of India is not equipped to solve all the 
problems facing the country unless NGOs like Akshaya Patra take an 
active role to address the needs. Through technology, innovation, 
management, entrepreneurship and business skills, APF has wrought 
wonders.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Following his speech, Ashley Singh sang “Tumhi Ho Bandhu “. There was
 a video presentation on the Foundation’s work in India showing the 
kitchens where mid-day meals are prepared for school children and the 
process involved in doing this.&lt;br /&gt;
A beautiful Bollywood dance number was performed by Infinity dancers – 
Anika Gupta, Shivani Shah, Pooja Venkit, Ravisha Saini, Radhika Patel, 
and Jasmine Merchant. Vote of Thanks was given by event chair, 
Paraminder Sawhney.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Oh oh, ghosts are haunting the acharyas, watch out!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Dear Puranjana Prabhu,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;I was not questioning because I
 don’t know about the money these people have wasted, I was just 
interested to know if they went to that hospital as it is connected to 
mind control by the Illuminati. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;===================================&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;[PD: So the question is, are 
the GBC controlled by the illuminati? No, the illuminati theory is that 
their members try to blend in and hide their identities, by conforming 
to the organization they are infiltering, then they gradually sneak in 
their agenda over decades of time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;These GBC guru people did not 
bother to even TRY to hide their bogus activities and try to “blend in” 
at all. Jayatirtha was taking LSD and he was singing like an out of 
control insane fool with his cracker pot kirtans, right in public, on 
his Vyasasana, and this was right out of the box in 1979. He was not 
trying to blend in at all. He was making huge public waves immediately. 
The rest of the GBC defended Jayatirtha, because they were not hiding 
their agenda that they wanted mad fool drug addicts on the Vyasasana in 
ISKCON.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Jayatirtha was also giving 
drugs to his inner circle of people, having illicit sex, and behaving in
 public like a buffoon. No blending was even attempted. That is not 
blending in. Kirtanananda’s people were being arrested for selling 
drugs, using underage teenage girls as drug mules, and so on, and this 
was in all the newspapers. Blending in? No. Making huge public waves? 
Yes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Hansadutta had his people 
stealing credit cards, and his farm was busted by a Federal raid in 
1979, not blending in at all. Ramesvara’s PDI (drug selling) pals were 
busted and the Laguna Beach temple president was arrested also in 1979. 
Federal agents were involved again. And we could give countless examples
 of this, for example that the entire ISKCON was sued in Syracuse 
Federal court for fraud, for selling candles and calling that 
samkirtana, for using bogus charities for the blind and poor to collect 
money, etc. and this was in all the newspapers in the USA, and they lost
 the case. Again, FEDERAL cases, NATIONAL newspaper coverage. Even the 
pornographic magazines made by Larry Flint were carrying articles about 
the cheating of these leaders. In other words, even the editors of porn 
magazines were appalled at the evil behavior of these leaders.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;The Syracuse case was started 
in 1979, so right out of the box they did not try to make a blending in 
of anything, they made huge public waves — after waves — after waves — 
of giant public problems that were in all the newspapers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Apart from that, had these 
people really been organized criminal conspirators, I never would have 
got “the will,” the letters, the July 9th letter, the May tape, and 
especially — the poison tapes and so on. Not only that, I never would 
have lived long enough to obtain any of these items if these were 
actually organized conspirators.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Nope, they are a bunch of 
hippie do-dah space cadets, they bungled almost all their crimes. And 
that is why they were constantly in the newspapers. They were amateur 
criminals by any standard. That does not mean that amateur crooks are 
NOT dangerous of course. The police around here say that these amateur 
crooks are their worst problem. The “crooks in learning” do not even 
know how to shoot guns properly. So they often kill innocent men, women,
 even pregnant women, and children, even babies and toddlers, … in 
short, the innocent by-stander is much more likely to die than the 
people they are shooting at. Amateur crooks, they are not hardly 
organized, but very dangerous nonetheless. ys pd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hari Bhakta &lt;/b&gt;says: Thanks
 for your comment Puranjan Prabhu. Yes, I agree, they should not spend 
so much money. It’s a shame. Maybe they are amateur criminals on purpose
 to bring the Mission of Lord Caitanya down? Well I’d also like to say, 
that Citeswar Prabhu is actually a really good ghost buster. He helped 
me with a serious issue and through his yagnas, he helped me a lot.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pagalbaba.net/home.php?ur=historiaig&amp;amp;bt=botig"&gt;http://www.pagalbaba.net/home.php?ur=historiaig&amp;amp;bt=botig&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Although it is a material 
science, it can help those who are struggling and not on the pure 
devotee platform, free from the effects of the mind and modes of 
material nature.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Haribol!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Puranjana das&lt;/b&gt; says: Right, well Chitesvara thinks that acharyas are full of ghosts. That means, he is in illusion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;I was in Badger when Chitesvara
 came there to milk all the devotees for money with his ghost busting 
program (pagal baba means “mad man,” no kidding), and he may have known 
about me being his worst critic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;So I sunk down in the seat of 
my van, and waited till he was right beside my van window, then and I 
popped my head out and said, “Hey Chitesvara, its your old pal 
Puranjana”! I have never seen anyone run away so fast in my life. He 
looked just like — he had seen a ghost. Hee hee. ys pd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hari Bhakta&lt;/b&gt; says: What 
exactly did he say about the Acharyas? Wonder why he said that? Did he 
say that Prabhupada was full of ghosts? He will get a lot of bad karma 
if he is actually ripping people off. What more do you know of his 
program?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Puranjana das&lt;/b&gt; says: 
Chitesvara supported the GBC gurus in 1990 when they were trying to 
explain all their fall downs. He said — the reason these gurus are 
always falling down is — they are haunted by ghosts. I cannot remember 
the exact numbers he gave but he said something like, Ravindra has 14 
ghosts, Hrdayananda has 23 ghosts, and so on and so forth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Prabhavishnu was the only 
slightly sensible person here, he protested the whole thing saying — 
this is all foolishness. And so Chitesvara said, that is because the 
ghosts inside Prabhavishnu to not want to be taken away by his ghost 
busting technique. So Prabhavishnu was ordered to be ghost busted, and 
he was.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;JAYAPATAKA swami then ordered 
that ALL the GBC’s gurus must be ghost busted by (his disciple?) 
Chitesvara. Shortly after that, and all through the early 1990s, 
Chitesvara was given the job by the GBC gurus, to be flown all over 
ISKCON to ghost-bust gurus, temples, devotees and so on. Which he was 
doing worldwide.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;So yes, Chitesvara not only 
says acharyas are full of ghosts, he says, only he has the potency to 
save acharyas who are full of ghosts. That means, he thinks acharyas are
 being overwhelmed by ghostly hauntings, and that the “pagal baba 
ashram” has to save the acharyas. Notice the word “pagal,” Chitesvara is
 saying that the acharyas are mad men (pagal) who are full of ghosts. 
That means, he is saying the acharyas are in the lowest modes of tamasic
 guna. I still have one of his business cards somewhere which says 
“pagal baba ashram ghost buster, Chitesvara das.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;I do not really blame 
Chitesvara so much, he was simply a tool the GBC used to explain all 
their fall downs. Of course he will get some serious karma for his 
supporting and helping the main GBC idea that the Lord’s acharyas are 
ghostly haunted mad fools who are engaged in debauchery,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;This is very sinful, to 
juxtapose such low level material contamination with the acharyas. Even 
the ordinary karmis are not ghostly haunted debauchees, so for the GBC 
to say the Lord’s successors and acharyas are on that odious tamasic 
level means, they are saying the acharyas are much lower class of people
 than — the ordinary hamburger eating man on the street? This is what 
they have said all along, the ordinary man is more advanced than the 
acharyas, because the ordinary man is not falling into illicit sex, 
intoxication, criminal activity and so forth. To say the Lord’s 
successors are mad fools who are chasing intoxication and illicit sex is
 an insult to pure devotees everywhere, and its an attack on Krishna by 
saying His direct servants are mad debauchees.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Chitesvara will be karma 
implicated in all this, and if you think about it, for their saying the 
successors to God are pagal baba ghostly haunted debauchess is — just 
not going to win them any favors with the Yamaduttas, lets face it. They
 have not figured this out yet, but fighting against Krishna like this 
is just messing with the wrong person, they won’t win this war. Do they 
say Prabhupada is full of ghosts, well indirectly yes, when they say 
acharyas are full of ghosts, that could be any of them. This also means,
 as soon as we become purely attached to Krishna, ghosts will make us 
behave like debauched criminals, that means, the worst thing you can do 
is to surrender to Krishna. This is very offensive. ys pd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Acchedya das says: When reading
 comment above I remember when this Chitesvara was sent to our newly 
constructed temple around 1983. As soon this temple was ready built it 
was announced that “powerful ghosts obsessed the building and an expert 
would arrive soon to solve this problem”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Then Chitesvara arrived in 
great pomp with a team of assistants. Of course all this fund-raising 
was paid by -- sankirtan laxmi. It’s easy to be wise after the event, 
but it’s hard to believe that Chitesvara considered this exorcism ritual
 to be of any value. They placed a few pumpkins in front of the temple 
and started chanting mantras. At one point Chitesvara declared that he 
can see that all ghosts are hiding now in those pumpkins because they 
were terrified by Chitesvara’s powerful mantras.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Then he told the devotees to 
smash those pumpkins at the concrete temple stairs. This would shock 
these ghosts so much that they would never return. He told the devotees 
to bow down and pay obeisances in honor for being rescued from these 
ghosts. Chitesvara received a check and asked for immediate transfer to 
the airport because there was, “another urgent exorcism to be performed 
in Italy”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;Quite amazing how naive we were at that time. The whole thing was nothing but pickpocketing?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hari Bhakta&lt;/b&gt; says: Thanks
 for the information Prabhu, seems like Chitesvara Prabhu was used as a 
puppet by Jayapataka in a bid to explain why the “Acharyas” were so 
pagal. Guess he made some good money out of it. So sad. Do you think he 
actually has the ability to remove ghosts and see past lives? According 
to him he has a mystic siddhi to obtain this information. I guess you 
can have these powers, but still be mislead by others. Was I duped by 
this guy? Is there anyone in the world that is trustworthy?!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Puranjana das&lt;/b&gt; says: Yes,
 as soon as I saw the business card “Pagal baba ashram,” I said, this 
shows how desperate the GBC gurus are, they have to explain their “guru 
failures” as being “caused by ghosts.” We had a comedian here in the USA
 named Flip Wilson, and that was his main punchline “The Devil Made Me 
Do It.” So the GBC borrowed almost the same idea and came up with “The 
Ghosts Made Me Do It.” Yes, anyone who accepts this is being duped, its a
 scam.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;This is now a big problem here 
in San Francisco. Old Chinese ladies are being told to collect their 
valuables — including taking their money out of the bank — and to put 
the valuables into a paper bag under their bed to remove evil spirits, 
so their house will be ghost busted. Problem is, the ghost busters 
change the women’s paper bag with their own, a bag filled with useless 
newspapers, and they steal the old ladies money and jewelry. Its the 
same type of criminal cheating as the GBC. Preying on people’s 
sentiments. ys pd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;GAINESVILLE:&lt;/b&gt; Matthew Goldman was chanting in the Hare Krishna Temple in 
Alachua on Saturday morning when another Krishna devotee told him about a
 mess in the bathroom.&lt;br /&gt;

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Someone had clogged the toilets, he said.&lt;/div&gt;
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The
 damage extended far beyond that inconvenience. Someone had defecated on
 the bathroom floor, strewn bleach around the temple and into a 
fountain, broke furnishings and tossed books into the fountain.&lt;/div&gt;
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There
 were only a few people at the temple because many other devotees 
planned to attend a festival in Clearwater later that day. Goldman said 
he had an idea who was responsible: Peter Bergman.&lt;/div&gt;
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Bergman had been at the temple from time to time, including that morning. He had even stayed at the guest house.&lt;/div&gt;
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He
 had struck other members as strange, but that raised no alarms. "He 
seemed a little odd, but we normally don't jump to conclusions about 
oddness," said Miriam Tassinare, president of the ISKCON of Alachua 
temple at 17306 NW 112th Blvd.&lt;/div&gt;
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Sheriff's
 deputies came to the scene and arrested a man they say helped Bergman 
deface the facility, while later filing a sworn criminal complaint 
against Bergman.&lt;/div&gt;
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For a 
community that strives for a peaceful existence — devotees generally 
don't kill other creatures, even mosquitos — the incident has been a 
wakeup call.&lt;/div&gt;
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The Hare Krishna community in Alachua welcomes newcomers to visit the temple, Tassinare said, and that won't change.&lt;/div&gt;
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"We're
 always open for people to come experience our meditation and the 
spiritual atmosphere here, but we'll probably look more now at having 
some security here," she said.&lt;/div&gt;
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They lock their doors and 
have an alarm system that keeps the building secure at night, but she 
said they'll probably look at adding security during services and other 
times.&lt;/div&gt;
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Tassinare said she 
also wants to talk to the Alachua County Sheriff's Office about the 
congregation's rights, such as whether they can physically restrain 
someone who vandalizes their property. She explained that devotees are 
allowed to restrain an aggressor without compromising their religious 
views or lifestyle.&lt;/div&gt;
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This incident could have been much worse, she said. There wasn't a lot of damage, and no one was hurt.&lt;/div&gt;
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Because
 he was a familiar face, Bergman's arrival around 7 a.m. Saturday didn't
 ring any alarm bells, she said. And devotees said they assumed the man 
with him, Melshizedek Reyes, was a friend of Bergman's.&lt;/div&gt;
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"But I think very soon after he came, they began acting erratic," Tassinare said.&lt;/div&gt;
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According
 to a sheriff's report, the men said the temple was unclean and threw 
bleach around the facility and poured bleach into a decorative fountain 
at the front of the temple.&lt;/div&gt;
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They
 threw books into the fountain and broke vases, according to the report.
 A sacred plant was also broken, Goldman said, which is considered 
offensive to Krishna devotees.&lt;/div&gt;
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He said Reyes seemed to be following Bergman's orders during the incident.&lt;/div&gt;
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"Whatever that other guy (Bergman) told him, it seemed like he would do," he said.&lt;/div&gt;
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Bergman,
 54, had seemed a little strange to other members of the temple, Goldman
 said, but they didn't think he'd do anything like this.&lt;/div&gt;
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"We didn't expect that, even though he was little weird," he said.&lt;/div&gt;
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After discovering the damage,
 a staff member suggested that Goldman drive the men to their homes, but
 Goldman said no. He said they should call the Sheriff's Office and then
 went back outside to keep an eye on the men.&lt;/div&gt;
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When
 a deputy arrived, he arrested Reyes, who refused to give him any 
identification and said he was not going to speak to the deputy. Each 
man was carrying a bag — a backpack and a grocery bag — and they refused
 to let the deputy see what was inside, according to the report.&lt;/div&gt;
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Reyes
 tried to run away from the deputy and was shot with a Taser stun gun 
after turning and charging at the deputy, according to a report.&lt;/div&gt;
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Reyes,
 25, of Volusia County, was arrested on charges of damage to 
property/criminal mischief, resisting arrest and disturbing the peace at
 a religious facility.&lt;/div&gt;
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Bergman,
 however, was taken to Shands at the University of Florida. He still had
 a bracelet from Shands, where he had recently been treated for bone 
cancer, said Sheriff's Office spokesman Art Forgey.&lt;/div&gt;
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He said the deputy felt Bergman needed medical attention. Medical issues take precedent over arrests, he said.&lt;/div&gt;
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Bergman
 later was charged via a sworn criminal complaint with damage to 
property/criminal mischief, resisting arrest and disturbing the peace at
 a religious facility.&lt;/div&gt;
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Forgey
 said the State Attorney's Office could determine that Reyes and Bergman
 should receive hate crime charges, but that hasn't been done yet.&lt;/div&gt;
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Despite the concerns this incident has raised, Tassinare said she doesn't consider this a hate crime.&lt;/div&gt;
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"I think it was really the crime of crazy people," she said.&lt;/div&gt;
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 temple in Mathura on Monday lodged a police complaint accusing two 
members of the temple management and a security guard of sexual assault,
 intimidation and threat to life. While she submitted a complaint with 
Vrindavan police accusing a senior member and temple manager, the temple
 administration denied the allegations saying she had dispute with the 
temple authorities.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Senior superintendent of police, Mathura, 
Pradeep Yadav said action will begin once the allegations are verified. 
The woman has alleged that she was not being allowed to enter the temple
 by the management, but Iskcon representatives said there were no restrictions and that she was stopped only from venturing into the area where saints live.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
 SSP Yadav said the two sides have been involved in dispute for 
sometime. "Investigations have revealed that after a dispute, the temple
 management denied her entry into the temple compound. But she 
approached the court which ordered that she must not be denied entry for
 prayers and meditation. After which she was allowed entry into the 
premises," said SSP Yadav.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; "She has accused the temple 
management of making lewd remarks and sexual assault. She has also 
accused a temple guard of physical assault. We have listened to what she
 had to say about her complaint in detail and are getting the specifics 
verified. Since there is a court history of dispute between the two 
sides, malafide intent on the part of either or both cannot be ruled 
out," SSP Yadav told TOI on phone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Many worshipers stay back for the lavish buffet&lt;br /&gt;at The Higher Taste, the temple's restaurant.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Business Today: &lt;/b&gt;Krishna, the eighth incarnation of the Hindu god Vishnu, has moved with 
the times. He no longer thrives on just butter or yogurt stored in an 
earthen pot dangling from the ceiling. That would be outright boring, 
with a global gastronomic explosion afoot. The Lord's feast now includes
 Italian pasta and bruschetta, Chinese stirfried noodles, Russian salad,
 American burgers and French coffee walnut mousse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is just a
 sampler of the offerings at the Bangalore temple of the International 
Society for Krishna Consciousness, also known as ISKCON or simply the 
Hare Krishna Movement. After being blessed by Krishna, the food finds 
its way to the lavish buffet at The Higher Taste, the temple's fine 
dining restaurant, where &lt;i&gt;bhajans&lt;/i&gt; play in the background to remind
 guests of the food's higher purpose. Here, eating and divinity are 
closely related. As the restaurant's name suggests, the lipsmacking food
 is aimed at helping diners reach a higher level of consciousness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Various centres of the movement run 100 such restaurants around the world, all of which promote what ISKCON calls &lt;i&gt;sattvic &lt;/i&gt;vegetarianism. &lt;i&gt;Sattva&lt;/i&gt; is Sanskrit for 'pure'. ISKCON's cuisine includes no garlic, onion, highprotein pulses and caffeinated drinks.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;"&lt;i&gt;Sattvic&lt;/i&gt; food eliminates chemical reactions that generate 
negative energy," explains Chamari Devi Dasi, Division Head of The 
Higher Taste. "To generate the best consciousness, to nourish the mind 
and soul, eating &lt;i&gt;sattvic&lt;/i&gt; food is important," she says, a little wrinkle in her forehead marked by a &lt;i&gt;tilak&lt;/i&gt; made with mud from Krishna's childhood home of Vrindavan. Onion and garlic, she says, generate &lt;i&gt;tamas&lt;/i&gt;, the state of ignorance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The
 Higher Taste employs 280 people, and can cook up to 1,200 dishes. The 
kitchens at the Bangalore temple - one of the largest ISKCON temples in 
the world - use 400 kilos of nuts, 250 litres of milk, 150 litres of 
oil, 500 coconuts, and more than 150 kg each of sugar, rice, potatoes 
and flour daily. All these ingredients go into 20 types of laddoos, 
dhoklas, rice dishes and 2,000 samosas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On holidays, some 20,000 people visit the Bangalore temple, and many stay back to partake of its &lt;i&gt;sattvic&lt;/i&gt;
 fare. If ISKCON were a commercial organisation, its food business would
 be one of the largest in the city rivalling top restaurant chains - 
through sales from temple counters, its restaurants, stores and 
catering, it generates revenues of Rs 16 crore a year.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;ISKCON's kitchens hire professional chefs and bakers who are trained in eggless and meatless cooking&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;For several years, ISKCON's Govinda's Restaurant, at Juhu in Mumbai, has
 been engaged in a tussle with the Maharashtra state incometax 
authorities, who say it should be taxed as a commercial operation. The 
Bangalore restaurant, however, is under no such pressure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ISKCON 
says it is not a commercial outfit. It is a not-for-profit organisation,
 founded in 1966 in New York City by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila 
Prabhupada to preach Bhakti Yoga, or "the science of devotional service 
to Lord Krishna". Today, it has 400 centres worldwide. Its restaurants 
are typically run by a trust. Profits from the sale of food mostly go 
into preaching or charity. ISKCON is the world's largest vegetarian food
 relief organisation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Rs 4 crore annual profit that ISKCON 
Bangalore makes is used to print religious texts, youth programmes and 
sometimes for free meal programmes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Govinda Datta Dasa (left) runs the revenue-generating kitchens (not all 
of them generate revenue) at the Bangalore temple, with fellow-devotees 
Chamari Devi Dasi and chef Kaivalya Pathi Dasa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Cooking 1,200 dishes daily is
 a complex operation, and professional chefs and managers, overseen by 
devotees who are passionate about food, make things smooth for those who
 pay to get their minds and souls nourished. The revenue-generating 
kitchens alone have 60 chefs. The food must be offered to the Lord 
before eating, which means chefs cannot taste it while cooking. This is 
why they must perfect ISKCON's version of molecular gastronomy - a 
scientific cooking method that requires strict adherence to temperature 
and proportions of ingredients.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Work is divided between three units. Plant One is a huge production unit
 that caters to the temple counters that sell sweets, savouries, juice, 
and packaged products such as snack mixtures. Plant One also caters for 
companies and events. Plant Two makes cakes and cookies. The third 
division is the restaurants.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Besides The Higher Taste, there is 
Annakuta, a cafeteria that sells fastmoving items such as dosas and 
sandwiches. "We have separate managers for each division, but ISKCON has
 a centralised system to predict sales, receive orders and pass them on 
to different plants," says Chamari Devi Dasi. To handle the complexity, 
Plant One's kitchen is subdivided into ten - there are separate kitchens
 for rice dishes, snacks, North Indian sweets, South Indian sweets, 
Bengali sweets, laddoos, mixtures, samosas, fried fare, and a speciality
 kitchen that makes spring rolls, bread rolls, burgers and cutlets.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Devotee Kaivalya Pathi Dasa is a chef with a passion for 
experimentation. ISKCON, he says, is a master at innovation. An in-house
 food lab, started in 2005, is a repository of around 3,000 recipes that
 its fine dining restaurant draws on daily.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cooks and devotees 
constantly try out new combinations in the lab to keep sattvic cuisine 
alive and kicking. One of the experiments was on biryani: how can you 
create an authentic biryani taste without using meat, onion or garlic? 
The result was the Kabulistani Biryani, which substitutes meat - 
traditionally goat or lamb - with cauliflower and potato.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;mosimageContinued
 research and development will be necessary for ISKCON to retain its fan
 following. But competition is brewing. Just a few weeks ago, two former
 employees of ISKCON teamed up to open Sattvam, a &lt;i&gt;sattvic&lt;/i&gt; 
restaurant less than five kilometres from the temple. ISKCON has to 
grapple with problems that other food entrepreneurs face, such as 
attrition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How does ISKCON maintain quality given the staff 
churn? Pat comes Chamari Devi Dasi's reply: "Krishna is in charge. He's 
managing it." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;ISKCON News&lt;/b&gt;: The opening of ISKCON Arusha Centre, marks the onset of a new Krishna-conscious age in Tanzania. &lt;br /&gt;

Over the last decade the Regional Secretary of East Africa, Umapati 
Das, along with a handful of devotees headed by Draupadi Rani Devi Dasi 
and Venu Madhurya Das, have been persistently endevoring to open a 
centre in Tanzania. &lt;br /&gt;

For the past few decades, Tanzania has been predominated by 
"conveniently theistic" inhabitants. Going to the temple, mosque or 
church has been more of a formality for the locals than actually a 
spiritual gesture. However, the new Arusha ISKCON Centre still has been 
able to grab the attention of masses of people of different social 
statuses.&lt;br /&gt;

After a lengthy struggle, on a bright sunny morning of 29th March 
2013, the Govinda's sweet shop and gift shop was inaugurated. The event 
was endorsed by various devotees from Nairobi, the donors, locals and 
Pran Govinda Das from Mumbai. The atmosphere was euphoric with the 
vibrant and energetic harinam sankirtan.&lt;br /&gt;

“The reason for a sweet shop and gift shop, is to break the ice and 
to break the stereotype of ISKCON being only a contemporary Asian 
Temple, irrelevant to local Tanzanians” - Venu Madhurya Das, Arusha 
centre leader explained. The Centre is sustained majorly by the sales 
from the sweet shop and by the grace of the donors. “We are fortunate to
 have a handful of the leading businessmen coming forward and 
financially supporting us. A generous man, for instance, happily offered
 to advertise our sweet shop and gift shop and various festivals for 
free.”&lt;br /&gt;
Currently, the devotees in Arusha are trying to acquire a moderately 
larger piece of land towards the city centre. to reduce the proximity 
issues. In the future, the devotees along with the East African Regional
 Secretary, are planning to develop the centre and spread in the rest of
 the areas of Tanzania&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Aasaram Bapu&lt;/strong&gt;, the self-styled &lt;strong&gt;Godman&lt;/strong&gt; sermonised the nation on how the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;gangrape victim – Nirbhaya&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; would had avoided it all if she would had taken &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;diksha, recited mantras&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; and&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt; begged&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;in front of those six beasts who were raping. Aasaram’s sermons made our blood boil in disgust.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;But now after seeing this photograph of Aasaram Bapu 
imparting ‘Diksha’ to a disciple in his unique style, I understand where
 he is coming from and what kind of sermons he is capable of uttering. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Ratan Tata, non-executive chairman, TATA group visited the Akshaya Patra Hubli kitchen recently. He was accompanied by N.R Narayana Murthy, Founder, Infosys Ltd, along with Sudha Murty, 
Chairperson of the Infosys Foundation, Dr. Gururaj Deshpande and 
Jayshree Deshpande. Chanchalpathi Dasa, Vice Chairman, The Akshaya Patra
 Foundation, Rajivalochan Dasa, President, Akshaya Patra Hubli, Shridhar
 Venkat, Executive Director, The Akshaya Patra Foundation and 
Yagneshwara Dasa were also present during the visit.
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Ratan Tata spent an hour in the Akshaya Patra premises visiting the 
kitchen with all the dignitaries. He also conversed with Chanchalapathi 
Dasa about Akshaya Patra's social service and was impressed by its 
operations.&lt;br /&gt;

After visiting the kitchen and interacting with the Akshaya Patra 
representatives, Ratan Tata said, “It is an extremely impressive 
undertaking which indicates what can be achieved when you have 
dedication and sincerity of achievement for the public good.” &lt;/div&gt;
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              &lt;b&gt;By: Bhakta Mark&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-align: justify;"&gt;There are many fools who blindly 
regurgitate the following slogans which were concocted by the Zoned out 
Acharyas and their GBC (Gangster Boy Cheerleaders) of Iskcon, including 
their BBT (Butlers of Better Truth).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class="rtejustify"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Referring to the Ritvik initiation 
system, they say there is no such thing as “post samadhi initiation” or 
“posthumous Diksha”, that it is asiddhanta and not part of the Gaudiya 
Tradition.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; So I am surprised that Jayadvaita and his BBT book mangling crew 
have yet to edit Jagannatha das Babaji’s name out from the list of 
disciplic succession in the “new improved” Bhagavad Gita. After all, 
according to the parampara list as written by Srila Prabhupada in CC Adi
 Lila chapter 1, “Srila Vishvanatha Chakravarti Thakura accepted Srila 
Jagannatha dasa Babaji”, even though Vishvanatha was “post samadhi” by a
 hundred years.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; I hate to give our misguided pre-samadhi editors any more "bright" 
ideas, but that edited Gita is ruined already, so Jay might as well just
 continue to show the world what he really thinks about the ideas of the
 one he claims to be a disciple of.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Evam parampara-praptam imam rajar&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;s&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;ayo viduh.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;(Bhagavad-gita, 4.2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This Bhagavad-gita As It Is is received through this disciplic succession:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class="rtejustify"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;1) Krishna, 2) Brahma, 3) Narada; 4) 
Vyasa, 5) Madhva, 6) Padmanabha,&amp;nbsp;7) Narahari, 8) Madhava, 9) Akshobhya, 
10) Jayatirtha, 11) Jnanasindhu,&lt;br /&gt;
 12) Dayanidhi, 13) Vidyanidhi, 14) Rajendra, 15) Jayadharma, 16) 
Purushottama, 17) Brahmanyatirtha, 18) Vyasatirtha, 19) Lakshmipati, 20)
 Madhavendra Puri, 21) Ishvara Puri, (Nityananda, Advaita), 22) Lord 
Chaitanya, 23) Rupa (Svarupa, Sanatana), 24) Raghunatha, Jiva, 25) 
Krishnadasa, 26) Narottama,&amp;nbsp;27) Vishvanatha, 28) (Baladeva) Jagannatha, 
29) Bhaktivinode, 30) Gaurakishora, 31) Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, 32) 
His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.&lt;br /&gt;
 -&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;(Bhagavad Gita INTRO)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Of course J.Swa will need to attack the Bhagavatam next…&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brahma is the direct recipient of Vedic knowledge from the 
Personality of Godhead, and anyone discharging his entrusted duties in 
disciplic succession from Brahma is sure to gain fame in this life and 
salvation in the next. The disciplic succession from Brahma is called 
the Brahma-sampradaya, and it descends as follows: Brahma, Narada, 
Vyasa, Madhva Muni (Purnaprajna), Padmanabha, Narahari, Madhava, 
Akshobhya, Jayatirtha, Jnanasindhu, Dayanidhi, Vidyanidhi, Rajendra, 
Jayadharma, Purushottama, Brahmanyatirtha, Vyasatirtha, Lakshmipati, 
Madhavendra Puri, Ishvara Puri, Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Svarupa 
Damodara and Sri Rupa Gosvami and others, Sri Raghunatha dasa Gosvami, 
Krishnadasa Gosvami, Narottama dasa Thakura, Vishvanatha Chakravarti, 
Jagannatha dasa Babaji&lt;b&gt;,&lt;/b&gt; Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Gaurakishora dasa Babaji, Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati,&amp;nbsp;A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;i&gt;- (SB 3.13.8 : PURPORT )&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Might as well edit a few taped lectures while he is at it…&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; “One who has accepted acharya, he knows things as they are.” &lt;i&gt;Acaryavan puru&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;s&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;o veda&lt;/i&gt;.
 So we are receiving knowledge through the acharyas. Krishna spoke to 
Arjuna, Arjuna spoke to Vyasadeva. Arjuna actually did not speak to 
Vyasadeva, but Vyasadeva heard it, Krishna speaking, and he noted down 
in his book Mahabharata. This Bhagavad-gita is found in Mahabharata. So 
we accept the authorities of Vyasa. And from Vyasa, Madhvacharya; from 
Madhvacharya, so many disciplic succession, up to Madhavendra Puri. Then
 Madhavendra Puri to Ishvara Puri; from Ishvara Puri to Lord 
Chaitanyadeva; from Lord Chaitanyadeva to six Gosvamis; from six 
Gosvamis to Krishnadasa Kaviraja; from him, Srinivasa Acharya; from him,
 Vishvanatha Chakravarti; from him, Jagannatha dasa Babaji; then Gaura 
Kishora dasa Babaji; Bhaktivinoda Thakura; my spiritual master. The same
 thing, we are preaching. That is Krishna consciousness movement. &lt;b&gt;It is nothing new. It is coming down from the original speaker, K&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;ris&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;hna, by disciplic succession.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;-&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;(Lectures : Bhagavad-gita 2.13 — Pittsburgh, September 8, 1972)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; That is guru. Means one who has seen the truth. How he has seen the 
truth? Through the parampara system. Krishna said this, and then Brahma 
said the same thing, then Narada said the same thing, Vyasadeva said the
 same thing, and then disciplic succession, Madhvacharya, Madhavendra 
Puri, Ishvara Puri, Lord Chaitanya, Sad-gosvami, Krishnadasa Kaviraja 
Gosvami, Srinivasa Acharya, Narottama dasa Thakura, Vishvanatha 
Chakravarti Thakura. In this way. Jagannatha dasa Babaji, Gaura Kishora 
dasa Babaji, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati. Then we are speaking. The same 
thing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;-&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;(Lectures : Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.4.1 — Los Angeles, June 24, 1972)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;J. and cohort Dravida das already edited the Parampara list 
in CC Adi 1, but failed to properly address the false post samadhi 
Diksha that Jagannatha received when Srila Vishvanatha Chakravarti 
accepted him as servitor. Instead he our Mangler in Chief focused on 
editing Srila Prabhupada’s "bogus" idea that Bhaktivinode was initiated 
by Jagannatha dasa, and that Bhaktivinode initiated Srila Gaurakishora 
das babaji&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; “The direct disciple of Srila Krishnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami was Srila
 Narottama dasa Thakura, who accepted Srila Vishvanatha Chakravarti as 
his servitor.&lt;b&gt; Srila Vishvanatha Chakravarti &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;T&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;hakura accepted Srila Jagannatha dasa Babaji,&lt;i&gt; who initiated &lt;/i&gt;Srila Bhaktivinoda &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;T&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;hakura, who in turn &lt;i&gt;initiated&lt;/i&gt; Srila Gaurakishora dasa Babaji, &lt;/b&gt;the spiritual master of Om Vishnupada Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja, the divine master of our humble self.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;(Original CC Adi Chapter 1)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; “The direct disciple of Srila Krishnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami was Srila
 Narottama dasa Thakura, who accepted Srila Vishvanatha Chakravarti as 
his servitor. &lt;b&gt;Srila Vishvanatha Chakravarti &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;T&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;hakura accepted Srila Jagannatha dasa Babaji,&lt;i&gt; the spiritual master of&lt;/i&gt; Srila Bhaktivinoda &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;T&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;hakura, who in turn &lt;i&gt;accepted &lt;/i&gt;Srila Gaurakishora dasa Babaji&lt;/b&gt;, the spiritual master of Om Vishnupada Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja, the divine master of our humble self.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;(Changed CC Adi Chapter 1)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;I know, I know, so many changes to make, so little time. 
Perhaps some one of J. Swa’s divine stature could make an appeal to 
Kala, the presiding Deity of time, in the form of a request to slow 
things down a bit so His Magnificence will be able to properly wield his
 editorial scalpel and undo all the errors Srila Prabhupada left us with
 and save the entire Jagat from being so grossly misinformed.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ISKCON Sri Radha Krishnachandra Temple, Hare Krishna Hill, 
Rajajinagar, Bangalore, held a commemorative ceremony- BHAKTI-RATNA 
today in its premises of the temple. MP of Rajya Sabha, Smt. Hemamalini 
ji was the chief guest for the function who also released a special 
commemorative volume on the same.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pt. Pravin Godkhindi, Pt. Venkatesh Godkhindi, Master Shadaj 
Godkhindi &amp;amp; Vidwan Kiran on tabla, performed a musical performance 
on the occasion..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Ys,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bharatarshabha Das&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span id="advenueINTEXT" name="advenueINTEXT"&gt;BANGALORE:  Corporation Bank donated a  mid-day meal distribution vehicle to the  Akshaya Patra Foundation recently. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
 The custom-built vehicle is insulated to maintain optimal temperature, 
is dust-free and helps to retain the freshness of the meals. The meal 
delivery vehicle will help transport hot, nutritious meals from the 
centralized kitchens to about 4,000 children daily in 40 schools each 
day. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Officials from the bank visited Akshaya Patra to flag-off 
the mid-day meal delivery vehicle. The officials also visited the 
Akshaya Patra kitchen to understand how Akshaya Patra's kitchen caters 
to the needs of thousands of children across the city every school 
working day. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Madhu Pandit Dasa, chairman, the Akshaya Patra 
Foundation, said, "Many organizations in the banking sector have always 
supported Akshaya Patra in its endeavor. We are honored that reputed 
organizations like Corporation Bank has continued to strengthen its 
partnership with us. With their continued support, we hope that we will 
be able to reach out to more hungry children across the country and by 
2020 to at least five million children across India." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Please find attached a set of 
documents to update the devotee community re. on the progress of the 
ongoing mediation. These documents consist of correspondence between 
between Madhu Pandit Dasa , the GBC Bureau and the ISKCON GBC :&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Justice Raveendran (the retired Supreme 
court justice who was appointed by the Supreme Court to oversee the 
present management at HK Hill, by the ISKCON Society of Karnataka a year
 ago) took an initiative to bring about an out of court settlement 
between two parties thru several mediation sittings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The Bangalore group offered to bring the 
property in dispute in the court, which is the Hare Krishna Hill temple 
under the ownership of ISKCON registered in Mumbai if Bureau assured 
before the Supreme Court that the rtvik system of initiation practiced 
now will be the only system to continue and the preaching that Srila 
Prabhupada is guru of everyone in this temple will also continue. Then 
we went further to offer all the group properties, worth about 500 
million dollars, about 20 temples in India to ISKCON registered in 
Mumbai with same condition on initiation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;To avoid court battles, they even offered
 that Madhu Pandit Dasa, Chanchalapathi Dasa and Jai Chaitanya Dasa will
 be out of management of the Hare Krishna Hill temple, which is disputed
 before the court. The Bureau had its meeting with GBC on March 9, 2013 
and rejected the condition on initiation and rejected the settlement 
offer. The Bureau's foul cries that rtvik is just an excuse for Sri 
Madhu Pandit Dasa's plan to grab properties now stands exposed as just 
mud slinging tactic. If they really believed this to be the case, why 
don't they take the offer that would have included Madhu Pandit's offer?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;div class="rtejustify"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The attached documents should be read in the following time sequence:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="rtejustify"&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Letter dated Jan 25th, 2013 to Justice Raveendran&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Final Offer of Madhu Pandit Das to GBC and Bureau March 5th, 2013&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Tahoma&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Tahoma&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt; Madhu Pandit Dasa &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:46 PM&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; dayaram.jps@com.bbt.se; Dayaram.JPS@pamho.net;
Bhanu.swami@pamho.net; rgomatam@bvinst.edu; bhakti.charu.swami@gmail.com;
Bhima.ACBSP@pamho.net; Bhakti.Charu.Swami@pamho.net;
Rasaraja.BI-Bombay-Berkeley@pamho.net; atd@indiabbt.com; Bhaktarupa (das) ACBSP
(Bhubaneswara - IN)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Cc:&lt;/b&gt; radhajivana@gmail.com; Chanchalapathi Dasa; Jai Chaitanya Dasa (Eco
Agri)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt; Bureau meeting GBC &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Without Prejudice to all connected matters pending
before the Supreme Court &lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Dear Prabhus, &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila
Prabhupada.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
Though we had closed the mediation exercise on 7&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;
February formally withdrawing all our earlier offers through my email to you
dated 3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; February&amp;nbsp; , we will still await your&amp;nbsp;
fresh&amp;nbsp; offer, if any, from your side for which we would respond afresh.
Just for your assurance to continue to endeavor for settlement we wish to
communicate that&amp;nbsp; the basic offer of ownership and rights over all the
properties will be unchanged from what was offered till 7&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;
February. More details needs to be discussed afresh with regards to certain
extra safeguards required to prevent any victimization of the leaders who have
been leading this theological issue apprehensions and to allay fears&amp;nbsp; that
the bureau and GBC is going through this exercise just get hold of the
properties and later stamp us out. If your real intentions are identical to
what is being expressed openly to us , there should be no problem for you to
ensure all those extra safeguards.&amp;nbsp; We can discuss &amp;nbsp;that after you
first communicate to us that the July 9&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; initiation system can be
put in place for our group of temples.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
I consider the meeting tomorrow as a very crucial meeting&lt;b&gt;
&lt;/b&gt;towards a positive settlement. My reason for this clarifying note&amp;nbsp;
is&amp;nbsp; that the rare opportunity that has arisen for the bureau to meet the
GBC to &amp;nbsp;get a clear black and white answer either way towards the settlement&amp;nbsp;
should not go in vain again due to the mistake &amp;nbsp;of &amp;nbsp;taking off&amp;nbsp;
in the direction of discussing philosophy. We want you to know &amp;nbsp;what
exactly is being offered by us. &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
After CPD presented our position to the Bureau on 10&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;&amp;nbsp;
Feb for information, instead of discussing the other settlement terms , the
discussion took off in a direction to make us change our&amp;nbsp; philosophy. Both
sides exchanged drafts with good intentions . &amp;nbsp;Each succeeding draft from
our side would include statements that protected the officiating system of
initiation as per July 9, 1977&amp;nbsp; directive &amp;nbsp;and in response we would
get drafts from your side with changes which make sure that&amp;nbsp; it is not a
representational system of initiation but just a diminished regular guru
system. CPD agreed to &amp;nbsp;these exercises with the team of &amp;nbsp;Rasaraj
Prabhu, hoping, as &amp;nbsp;assured by him, &amp;nbsp;that&amp;nbsp; he would in the end
derive the&amp;nbsp; same system that we are practicing now.&amp;nbsp; Both sides have
learnt&amp;nbsp; that it has failed to produce any satisfying solution and we were
back to square one after several days of exchanging drafts back and forth.
Thanks to Rasaraj Prabhu and Bhanu Swami who tried sincerely worked hard to
make two ends meet. I am writing this &amp;nbsp;so that we do not take this route
once again in the current endeavor. &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
We have also agreed that post settlement of the dispute, we
would participate in the discussions as part of a Guru issue Committee which
includes representations from GBC members, members of ISKCON Bureau, selected
members from national bodies around the world and ISKCON Bangalore Group of
devotees. At any&amp;nbsp; post settlement stage&amp;nbsp; if there is consensus among
the Bangalore Group of Devotees for any change from the present system allowed
for us&amp;nbsp; before the Supreme Court, we will change. But if there is no
consensus we will not change the system agreed before the Supreme court.&amp;nbsp;
Though any miracle can happen through Guru issue Committee, we frankly feel
that that settling a common initiation system seems like a far cry as the
position of both sides on this guru issue is mutually exclusive. Two non
interfering groups serving and growing together respectful to each other under
one legal structure with a pre decided code of conduct &amp;nbsp;is the
spirit&amp;nbsp; of this settlement as we understand. Therefore I insist that we be
understood properly for the sake of a genuine settlement not only letter but as
well as its spirit. &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
Whatever settlement we are seeking now , we want to ensure
that our stand on initiation is&amp;nbsp; understood by your decision makers right
from the start&amp;nbsp; not only&amp;nbsp; in letter but also in&amp;nbsp; spirit &lt;b&gt;. Let
me repeat&amp;nbsp; that changing our present understanding of initiation or the
system of initiation has never been offered to the Bureau at any point of time&lt;/b&gt;.
Even the last proposal sent to you by CPD on Mantra guru/Officiating Acarya
,&amp;nbsp; which you are proposing to discuss does not change our stand on
initiation if you carefully study. On the face of it , It is quite a confusing
document as these exchanges of drafts were being made in a rush to close
settlement and can lead the reader astray if some statements therein are&amp;nbsp;
not clarified. Anyway the conclusive stand is scripted by us&amp;nbsp; in a nut
shell through the very last line of that document which says in red&amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;“
We do not consider or call ourselves diksha disciples of Mantra guru or
Officiating Acaryas.”&amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
The only change we have made during the discussion of
different drafts on initiation with Rasaraj Prabhu&amp;nbsp; is that , the
Officiating Acaryas&amp;nbsp; are&amp;nbsp; institutional gurus and not just
priests&amp;nbsp; who give first and second initiation on behalf of Srila
Prabhupada. However we consider ourselves as receiving the two components of
transcendental diksha in terms of di+ksha&amp;nbsp; divya gyan and ksapayati from
Srila Prabhupada, not only at the formal&amp;nbsp; initiation ceremony as the
current link in our parampara&amp;nbsp; but also on a ongoing basis forever,
beginning from the first day a devotee faithfully&amp;nbsp; hears Srila
Prabhupada’s vani . &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
Our continued stand is that since&amp;nbsp; Srila Prabhupada ,
as the Founder and Acarya of ISKCON,&amp;nbsp; his prominence as the Primary guru
to whom everyone directly&amp;nbsp; surrenders should be institutionally&amp;nbsp;
preached and promoted&amp;nbsp; in ISKCON temples, notwithstanding the fact that
there may&amp;nbsp; be many pure devotees in ISKCON. Such pure devotees would do
everything by preaching and by their conduct&amp;nbsp; to keep this prominence of
Srila Prabhupada&amp;nbsp; in life of the devotees of ISKCON.&amp;nbsp; If at all any
faith that can be justifiably institutionalized for promoting in ISKCON , it is
only this faith in the Founder Acarya of the institution as the Primary guru.
Srila Prabhupada has wished without doubt to remain active as long as the
institution exists in this capacity as the Acharya. All other followership
relationship in ISKCON should be geared to promote this Prominence of Srila
Prabhupada in the heart of ISKCON members. &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
In the last proposal we have also agreed that considering
the sensitivities involved in ISKCON on newly initiated in&amp;nbsp; ‘calling ’
ourselves diksha disciples of Srila Prabhupada, we would just call ourselves as
disciples of Srila Prabhupada or Prabhupadanugas. Nevertheless from the rest of
the document it is clear that Srila Prabhupada is our transcendental diksha
guru. Again&amp;nbsp; we are seeking all these liberties of a different system of
initiation only for our group of temples. We will still stand by that offer to
call ourselves only as disciples of Srila Prabhupada.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
Having said all this , all this &amp;nbsp;is nothing but
implementation of July 9&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; 1977 directive.&amp;nbsp; Easier than
narrating all these faith matters and beating around the bush, it is easiest and
elegant to state before the Supreme court that in our group temples, the system
of initiation will be as per July 9&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; 1977 directive of Srila
Prabhupada since that is what our real proposal is and has been always
including the one sent last by CPD. Live and let live under one umbrella. July
9&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; 1977 also do not use the word diksha disciple for those
initiated. It just says disciples. &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
Therefore please do not work on the that last document sent
by CPD which needs clarification and explanation on many points.&amp;nbsp; We have
already officially withdrawn that offer w.e.f. from 7&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; February for
this very reason. &amp;nbsp;Instead we are attaching a&amp;nbsp; ‘synopsis’&amp;nbsp;
herein&amp;nbsp; which is just compilation of the points in red in the same CPD’s
last document that are&amp;nbsp; applicable to our group of temples with some
elaborations for greater clarity.&amp;nbsp; Our group of Temple Presidents are yet
to approve the attached draft. But that should not be a problem as we are
moving forward as per the general direction given by that body. &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
For us, since this faith is the very genesis of this dispute
arising from being expelled from ISKCON&amp;nbsp; for the same , we need to ensure
that there are enough legal safeguards and mechanism&amp;nbsp; in the settlement
decree for the Bangalore Group of devotees to have a locus standi to go before
the court for enforcement of any violation on the agreed system of initiation
by the bureau or if we are victimized directly or indirectly for holding and
preaching this faith in our group of temples. We not want to make any secret
out of this possibility. Such a possibility will never be there if the live and
let live principle is adopted. &amp;nbsp;I hope this is understandable considering
that the ownership/rights of properties&amp;nbsp; are being offered irrevocably and
we cannot ever go to court for revoking the same and the GBC wishes to
retain&amp;nbsp; in its book &amp;nbsp;draconian law on banning&amp;nbsp; rtvik doctrine in
ISKCON.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
The GBC and other bureau members should also be
informed&amp;nbsp; of the salient features of the other terms like opening&amp;nbsp;
more temples by Bangalore group of devotees for ISKCON Bureau as properties for
ISKCON Mumbai as per the other non- philosophical terms orally discussed once. &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
Let me state again that when we are not seeking any in
between solution which needs any philosophical discussion. Such discussions are
bound to drag forever . We are expecting a clear answer on 8&lt;sup&gt;th &amp;nbsp;&lt;/sup&gt;or
9&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; March giving in-principle approval to our specific proposal in
writing. Then we could work out all other details before the next OC committee
meets and file before the Supreme Court. If this fails we would restart the
discussion after the Supreme Court case is over. &amp;nbsp;Our desire to integrate
ourselves under one umbrella will always remain. &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
From now on I will be the single point of contact from our
side for all purposes of this settlement . &amp;nbsp;I thank Ambarisha Prabhu and
&amp;nbsp;Radhajivan Prabhu for their recent involvement in this settlement
efforts. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
Yours in service of Srila Prabhupada&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
Madhu Pandit Dasa&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Reply to GBC and Bureau March 14th, 2013&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Final letter to Justice Raveendran March 22nd, 2013&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Without Prejudice: &lt;/div&gt;
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Justice Raveendaran,&lt;br /&gt;
Chairman,&lt;br /&gt;
Oversight Committee, ISKCON Bangalore.&lt;/div&gt;
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Dear Sir,&lt;/div&gt;
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Hare Krishna. Please accept our
greetings. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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We are grateful to you for having
mediated with ISKCON Mumbai for an out of court settlement on our mutual
request. &lt;/div&gt;
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ISKCON Mumbai and the GBC have
jointly written to us at last with finality that, it is not possible to accept
Srila Prabhupada as the sole Guru/Acharya of our group of temples. Further they,
ironically, are asking us also to become “regular gurus” and make our own
disciples by becoming Gurus/Acharyas.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Copy
of their communication is enclosed. &lt;/div&gt;
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As you are aware we offered a lot
to facilitate the settlement only considering that it is bad to spend temple
money on lawyers. We offered first the ownership of suit property (Hare Krishna
Hill temple). Then we extended the offer to bring all other properties of our group
which is materially worth 20 times the suit property. We even went to the
extent of offering myself and few others to step down from the management of
Hare Krishna Hill if only they accept that Srila Prabhupada would be the sole
Guru in our group of temples and the same is decreed by the Supreme Court.&lt;/div&gt;
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Unfortunately ISKCON Mumbai only
want to take what we offered &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;without
acceding to our simple demand of leaving intact &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;the system of initiation that is currently
being practiced in our group of temples which is in accordance with the written
directive of our Founder Acharya, His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
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Thus we regret
that mediation efforts have unfortunately failed to bear any positive result of
an out-of-court settlement with the bureau and GBC expressing their inability
to accommodate our faith that is being currently practiced in our group temples.
&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Right from the outset, we got interested
in the mediation only because Sri. Dayaram Das of ISKCON Mumbai stated that there
is the possibility of the Bureau of ISKCON Mumbai allowing Srila Prabhupada to
be the only guru in our group of temples if the property is given to ISKCON
Mumbai. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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We cannot
accept their rejection letter to be in the spirit of settlement. It is merely
as demand for total surrender and not a compromise.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This would mean we have to give up our faith
that Srila Prabhupada as our dikhsa guru. This is simply impossible to give up.
The self-made gurus rule the GBC and the Bureau. It is this very dogmatic
approach wherein the Founder Acharya, Srila Prabhupada cannot be considered as
one’s diksha guru has thrown out thousands of sincere followers of ISKCON
movement all over the world. They do not want to give up their guruship as it
would stop their ‘guru dakshina business’ for themselves independent of the
temples and their own rubberstamped follower camps within ISKCON. When we
brought up this very matter in the year 1999, the GBC passed a resolution
expelling us from ISKCON. It was at that junction, we asserted our legal
independence that we are members of a legally independent society in order to
protect our services to the Lord and the society from the expelling action of
the GBC for holding that Srila Prabhupada is our sole guru and refusing to
accept the self-appointed gurus of ISKCON.&lt;/div&gt;
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It is only to
fight us, the ISKCON &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;reformists, world
over, they are united. Otherwise they are fragmented in to as many camps as
there are self-appointed gurus in ISKCON. They have hijacked Srila Prabhupada’s
ISKCON. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;This moral and financial
corruption is the very genesis of this dispute and they do not want to budge an
inch on this demand. On the other hand they have gone to the extent of asking
us also to join them in the league of self-appointed gurus. &lt;/div&gt;
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It is clear that they are not
satisfied with offer of ownership of properties under ISKCON Mumbai but they
want to continue their multi-guru system even in our group of temples. &lt;/div&gt;
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We have replied to their
communication indicating our unacceptability of their demand to continue multiple
self-appointed guru system in our group of temples. A copy of the said
communication is also enclosed. &lt;/div&gt;
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We have suggested in our reply to
GBC and Bureau if we can peacefully co-exist and expand as separate groups in
service of Srila Prabhupada. We have stated in our letter:&lt;/div&gt;
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And we hope if this new approach
can bear fruit. We shall continue to try our best. Meanwhile the matters before
the Supreme Court could continue and we shall leave everything in the hands of
Lord Krishna with regard to the suit schedule property. We thank you once again
for your kind efforts to bring about an out of court settlement.&lt;/div&gt;
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Yours in service of Lord Krishna,&lt;/div&gt;
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Madhu Pandit Dasa, &lt;br /&gt;
President, ISKCON Bangalore.&lt;/div&gt;
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Enclosures: &lt;/div&gt;
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1. Final Offer of Madhu Pandit
Das to ISKCON GBC and Bureau on March 5&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;, 2013 on matters
concerning philosophy.&lt;/div&gt;
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2. Synopsis of SYSTEM OF
INITIATION (as applicable to ISKCON Bangalore group of temples)&lt;/div&gt;
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3. Statement of the Governing
Body Commission (GBC) of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness
(ISKCON) adopted on March 9, 2013.&lt;/div&gt;
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4. Joint letter of the GBC and
Bureau to the Leaders of the Bangalore Group of Temples dated March 9, 2013.&lt;/div&gt;
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5. Joint letter of the Temple
Presidents to the GBC and Bureau dated 14 Mar 2013.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8SbPWFCTPNY/UVKL0P9v0PI/AAAAAAAAK88/o4zi0gxtXIw/s1600/fake-sai-krishna-picture-iskcon-prabhupada.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="223" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8SbPWFCTPNY/UVKL0P9v0PI/AAAAAAAAK88/o4zi0gxtXIw/s400/fake-sai-krishna-picture-iskcon-prabhupada.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: This says, "God is an Indian." Putaparti. "God is an Indian. His contemporary avatāra..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Putaparti? What is that?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Putaparti is in Andhra. "His contemporary avatāra rests in the trinity of Sirti Baba, Sai Baba, and Prem Baba to come. So Satya Sai Baba, the second of the triple incarnation, asserted in the course of a marathon interview to add, 'In my present avatāra, I have come armed with the fullness of the power of the formless God to save humanity.' "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: So, to whom we shall address this letter?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Well, it depends where we want to send it for publishing. To this or to another magazine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: He says that "I'm avatāra." So therefore it should be addressed to him. He says. So address to Satya Sai Baba. Where is he, at Bombay?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: No, he stays at this Putaparti or in Bangalore.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Putaparti...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: That is a small village.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Oh. Post office, Putaparti. And it is in, where Bangalore?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: That is in Andhra.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Andhra. Hmm. Dear Sai Baba, just recently in the Blitz paper, published on—give the date—we were surprised to find one article "God is an Indian." And you have claimed to become an incarnation of God to save the human society. What is the ground of your claiming as incarnation? And what you have done to save the human society? Will you explain for enlightenment of us. Or many of us. We have got the list of incarnations recorded in the Vedic scriptures and their respective activities also. So where is that record in the Vedic scripture about your appearing as incarnation? Lord Kṛṣṇa's incarnation is fully described in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Lord Kṛṣṇa's incarnationship or give... What it should be?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Lord Kṛṣṇa's incarnation...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: There may be so many, but I mean to say Lord Kṛṣṇa is incarnation, so avatāratva. So what is the English? Avatāratva?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: The incarnationness or quality of being an incarnation, but that is not... The quality of being an incarnation is not... The most literal is incarnationness.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Therefore say that. Lord Kṛṣṇa's incarnationness is fully described in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Similarly, Lord Rāmacandra's incarnationness or Lord Buddha's incarnationness, Lord Caitanya's incarnationness, we have got full information in the Vedic literatures.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Lord Rāma's incarnationness, Lord Buddha's incarnationness...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Lord Caitanya.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Oh.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Where is your incarnation is described? Will you kindly give the reference. Anyone can say like you, that one is incarnation, as it has become a fashion nowadays. But is that claim only is the proof of one's becoming incarnation? Some such unauthorized claim of becoming an incarnation is certainly ridiculous. Such...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: ...unauthorized claim of one's becoming an incarnation...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Is certainly ridiculous. Then you have claimed to take form. What is he has written?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "Then you have claimed to take..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: No, no. What he has written.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "In my present avatāra I have come armed with the fullness of the power of the formless God to save humanity."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: So you have claimed to... What is that? Again read it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "I have come armed with the fullness of the power of the formless God to save humanity."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: So you have claimed to take a form of the formless God. But we see in the Bhagavad-gītā that God is never formless. Find out this verse, avyaktaṁ vyaktim āpannaṁ manyante mām abuddhayaḥ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;avyaktaṁ vyaktim āpannaṁ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;manyante mām abuddhayaḥ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;paraṁ bhāvam ajānanto&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;mamāvyayam anuttamam&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;[Bg. 7.24]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"Unintelligent men who know Me not, think that I have assumed this form and personality. Due to their small knowledge, they do not know My higher nature, which is changeless and supreme."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Purport.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "Those who are worshipers of demigods have been described as less intelligent persons, and here the impersonalists are similarly described. Lord Kṛṣṇa in His personal form is here speaking before Arjuna, and still, due to ignorance, impersonalists argue that the Supreme Lord ultimately has no form. Yāmunācārya, a great devotee of the Lord in the disciplic succession from Rāmānujācārya, has written two very appropriate verses in this connection. He says, 'My dear Lord, devotees like Vyāsadeva and Nārada know You to be the Personality of Godhead. By understanding different Vedic literatures, one can come to know Your characteristics, Your form and Your activities, and one can thus understand that You are the Supreme Personality of Godhead. But those who are in the modes of passion and ignorance, the demons, the nondevotees, cannot understand You. They are unable to understand You. However expert such nondevotees may be in discussing Vedānta and the Upaniṣads and other Vedic literatures, it is not possible for them to understand the Personality of Godhead.' In the Brahma-saṁhitā it is stated that the Personality of Godhead cannot be understood simply by study of the Vedānta literature. Only by the mercy of the Supreme Lord can the Personality of the Supreme be known. Therefore in this verse it is clearly stated that not only the worshipers of the demigods are less intelligent, but those nondevotees who are engaged in Vedānta and speculation on Vedic literature..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: You can give up to that Yāmunācārya's quotation. What you have written.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: So far? Everything? Or just... Only, is one's word only...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: What you have written.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "Dear Sai Baba, just recently..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: No, no, no. Last what you have written.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "Similarly, Lord Rāma's incarnation, Lord Buddha's incarnation, Lord Caitanya's incarnationness, we have got full information from the Vedic scriptures. Where is your incarnation described? Will you kindly give the reference. Anyone can say like you, that one is an incarnation, as it has become a fashion nowadays. But is that claim only the proof of one's becoming an incarnation? Such unauthorized claim of one's becoming an incarnation is certainly ridiculous. Then you have claimed to take a form of the formless God. But we see in the Bhagavad-gītā that God is never formless."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: (dictating:) Only the rascals and less intelligent class of men think that God is formless and when He incarnates, He takes a particular form. In this connection, a verse from Yāmunācārya may be quoted as follows. You have quoted the Bhagavad-gītā? That quote?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Well, it doesn't mention the Sanskrit here of that Yāmunācārya verse.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: No, no. "In the Bhagavad-gītā it is said"—what you have written?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Oh. We can put the Sanskrit, avyaktaṁ vyaktim āpannam.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: No, what you have written here?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "Such unauthorized claim of one's becoming... Then you have claimed to take a form of the formless God, but we see in the Bhagavad-gītā..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: That you have to quote.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Yes. So, Bhagavad-gītā 7.24, Sanskrit and translation. "But we see in the Bhagavad-gītā..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Read it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;avyaktaṁ vyaktim āpannaṁ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;manyante mām abuddhayaḥ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;paraṁ bhāvam ajānanto&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;mamāvyayam anuttamam&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;[Bg. 7.24]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"Unintelligent men who know Me not, think that I have assumed this form and personality. Due to their small knowledge, they do not know My higher nature, which is changeless and supreme." That God is never formless. Only the rascals and less intelligent class of men think that God is formless and when He incarnates he takes a particular form. In this connection a verse from Yāmunācārya may be quoted as follows.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: So what is Yāmunacārya's quotation?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "My dear Lord, devotees like Vyāsadeva and Nārada know You to be the Personality of Godhead. By understanding different Vedic literatures, one can come to know Your characteristics, Your form and Your activities, and one can thus understand that You are the Supreme Personality of Godhead."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: You have to quote that verse and the meaning.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: But the Sanskrit wasn't give here?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: The Sanskrit is there.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: No, but this verse from Yāmunācārya.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Oh. You'll find the Sanskrit in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Oh. Which place?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: In the Ādi-līlā. Tam, it begins with tam. You can find out. Call, call him. (bell rings) Read. The Sanskrit verse is not...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: No, it's not quoted here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Tam paribhāvita, like that. There is a verse.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Oh. I will find it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Ādi-līlā.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Hari-śauri: Which volume?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Caitanya-caritāmṛta.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Hari-śauri: First volume?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: I think. There is, what is called, index?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Yes, for Ādi-līlā? Where's the verse index.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Hari-śauri: Which verse is it. If you give me the verse I can...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: It begins tam paribhāvita. T-a-m. T-a-m. Tam paribhāvita.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: You can bring here. Then?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: So this quote goes on. "But those who in the modes of passion and ignorance, the demons, the nondevotees, cannot understand You. They are unable to understand You. However expert such nondevotees may be in discussing the Vedānta and the Upaniṣads and other Vedic literatures, it is not possible for them to understand the Personality of Godhead."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: So in this connection, the statement of Bhāgavatam, is especially important. Brahmeti paramātmeti bhagavān iti śabdyate [SB 1.2.11]. Brahman is impersonal, Paramātmā is localized, and Bhagavān is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The Supreme Personality of Godhead...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Brahman is the impersonal.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Brahman is impersonal. Not "the." Paramātmā is localized, and Bhagavān is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. When Arjuna understood Kṛṣṇa after hearing Bhagavad-gītā, he addressed Kṛṣṇa as follows. Quote this, paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma [Bg. 10.12]. Find out. No. Find out in the book.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;puruṣaṁ śāśvataṁ divyam&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ādi-devam ajaṁ vibhum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;[Bg. 10.12]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Puruṣaṁ śāśvatam...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Puruṣaṁ śāśvataṁ divyam.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Divyam. So here Arjuna addresses Lord Kṛṣṇa as śāśvataṁ puruṣam, eternally the Personality of Godhead. It is never admitted that Supreme Lord is originally imperson. Puruṣam. I have described puruṣam? Yes. What you have written?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "When Arjuna understood Kṛṣṇa after hearing Bhagavad-gītā, he addressed Kṛṣṇa as follows, paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma [Bg. 10.12], etc. Here Kṛṣṇa addresses... Here Arjuna addresses Kṛṣṇa as śāśvataṁ puruṣam or the eternal Personality of Godhead. It is never admitted that the Supreme Lord is originally impersonal."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Then, you read the other verses. Param...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;puruṣaṁ śāśvataṁ divyam&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ādi-devam ajaṁ vibhum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;[Bg. 10.12]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Then?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Āhus tvām ṛṣayaḥ sarve devarṣir nāradas tathā.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: You have to quote this. Then? Read.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Translation?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: No, no. That you have to give a quotation and, then? What is next verse.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: In Bhagavad-gītā after this?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Āhus tvām, then next, what is next verse.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Ah,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;vaktum arhasy aśeṣeṇa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;divyā hy ātma-vibhūtayaḥ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;yābhir vibhūtibhir lokān&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;imāṁs tvaṁ vyāpya tiṣṭhasi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"Please tell me in detail of Your divine..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: That's all right. Next.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;kathaṁ vidyām ahaṁ yogiṁs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;tvāṁ sadā paricintayan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;keṣu keṣu ca bhāveṣu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;cintyo 'si bhagavan mayā&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"How should I meditate on You?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: That's all right. Next.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;vistareṇātmano yogaṁ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;vibhūtiṁ ca janārdana&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;bhūyaḥ kathaya tṛptir hi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;śṛṇvato nāsti me 'mṛtam&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"Tell me in detail, O Janārdana, of Your mighty potencies and glories, for I never tire of hearing..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: The point is that "Your personality cannot be understood without Your mercy." There is a verse. Āhus tvām ṛṣayaḥ sarve. Find out that verse.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Aham?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Āhus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Oh, āhus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Āhus tvām ṛṣayaḥ. You read just now.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Yes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;āhus tvām ṛṣayaḥ sarve&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;devarṣir nāradas tathā&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;asito devalo vyāsaḥ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;svayaṁ caiva bravīṣi me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Next verse.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;sarvam etad ṛtaṁ manye&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;yan māṁ vadasi keśava&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;na hi te bhagavan vyaktiṁ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;vidur devā na dānavāḥ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;[Bg. 10.14]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Vyaktyam?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Vyaktim. Na hi te bhagavan vyaktiṁ vidur devā na dānavāḥ. "O Kṛṣṇa, I totally accept as truth all that You have told me. Neither the gods nor demons, O Lord, know Thy personality."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Yes, that's...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Oh, it says,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;svayam evātmanātmānaṁ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;vettha tvaṁ puruṣottama&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;bhūta-bhāvana bhūteśa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;deva-deva jagat-pate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Hari-śauri: There's no verse index in any of the Ādi-līlā.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: There is, but we are missing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: I have the Bengali.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: The all ācāryas say that Your personality, although there are so many evidences in śāstra and authorized persons, still, the rascals cannot understand. So here is another verse, āhus tvām ṛṣayaḥ sarve.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: So do you want to quote this verse?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Hm. Must quote.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;sarvam etad ṛtaṁ manye&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;yan māṁ vadasi keśava&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;na hi te bhagavan vyaktiṁ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;vidur devā na dānavāḥ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;[Bg. 10.14]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: (dictating:) So one has to accept the statement of Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, how He is originally the puruṣa or person. Impersonal Brahman is expansion of the rays of His personal body, exactly like the sunshine is expansion of the rays of the sun-god Vivasvān. Vivasvān is a person in the sunglobe and Kṛṣṇa is also a person who spoke the philosophy of Bhagavad-gītā long, long years before He spoke the same to Arjuna. Imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ proktavān aham avyayam [Bg. 4.1]. Therefore the conclusion is that originally God is always a person. Impersonal Brahman is emanation from the personal God. In other words, God, personal God is not from impersonal Brahman, but impersonal Brahman is from the personal God. That is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gītā as follows.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Impersonal Brahman is an emanation of the personal God. It is not, it is not that the personal God is an emanation of...from... or it is that impersonal Brahman is an emanation. It is not that the personal God is an emanation of impersonal Brahman.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Impersonal Brahman is resting on the personal God, exactly that illumination of light is resting on the bulb. Not that the bulb is resting on the illuminated light.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Exactly like illumination of light is resting...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: On the bulb, electric bulb. Not the bulb is resting on the illumination. Besides that, we learn from Bhagavad-gītā, Second Chapter... Find out that verse. "It is not that we were..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Na tv evāham?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Ah.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;na tv evāhaṁ jātu nāsaṁ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;na tvaṁ neme janādhipāḥ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;na caiva na bhaviṣyāmaḥ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;sarve vayam ataḥ param&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings, nor in the future shall any of us cease to be."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: So Kṛṣṇa has personally said to Arjuna that in the past he was person.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: So "Kṛṣṇa, in person"?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: No, no. Yes. Kṛṣṇa, as a person, says to Arjuna that both of them existed in the past as person, and they'll continue to remain person in the future.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Both of them existed in the past as person and both of them shall continue to...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Remain as person in the future. So without knowing all this knowledge, a mūḍha accepts the incarnation of God as coming from imperson. Avajānanti māṁ mūḍhā mānuṣīṁ tanum āśritam [Bg. 9.11]. Under this heading you have proved yourself to become a mūḍha. And how a mūḍha or an ass can become the incarnation of God? Then? Read that Blitz paper, one after another.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Then, this is the end of his quote and then the editor, the writer is speaking. "This may appear an extraordinarily controversial claim to those unfamiliar with the spiritual depths of Hindu religio-philosophy. The latter totally accepts the avatāra concept which broadly means the descent of the divine principle into human affairs. In the Bhagavad-gītā Lord Kṛṣṇa intervenes to say..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: That is the editor's.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Yes, this is the editor's. "In the Bhagavad-gītā Lord Kṛṣṇa intervenes to save humanity from evil forces. The Purāṇas personify earth, the mother, as groaning under a similar burden to supplicate God for relief." Then heading, "Solution and cure to world's ills. To Baba's devotees, the avatāra has similarly come to provide both the solution and the cure to a world living in terror of a nuclear holocaust. The false dichotomies created by Western thought between God and man, puruṣa and deva, simply do not exist in the Indian scriptures, which prescribe..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: What is that?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "The dichotomies."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Dichot...? What is that?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Dichotomy means some kind of distinction, to make a distinction. He said the dichotomies created by Western thought between God and man, puruṣa and deva. Differences or analysis of differences. "Simply do not exist in the Indian scriptures..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Why not?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "Which prescribe the assimilation of God in man and man in God as the basis of religion."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: This is another rascaldom. God is always distinct from man.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Sai Baba also quotes later, He is also directly saying, also later.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: What he says?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Now here's the quote. "Baba personifies this philosophy. As he told me, 'God is man and man is God. All of us have something of God, the divine spark, within us. All men are divine, like myself, with the spirit embodied in human flesh and bone. The only difference is that they are unaware of this Godhood.' " I'll get it for you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: So?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Here he says, "The mission of the present avatāra is to make everybody realize that since the same God or divinity resides in everyone, people should respect, love, and..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: No, no. If he resides in everyone, then why he has special claim?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Yes, well he says he has remembered.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: He remembers? How God can forget?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: That he says. That he says here. He says that, "Take paddy or rice by way of an illustration. Every grain of rice is enclosed in a husk. You have to remove the husk to get the grain of rice. Now husk and rice both come from the same seed. Rice is the equivalent of God in man."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: But still husk is not rice. You cannot say husk is rice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: He says the husk... He says "Rice is the equivalent of God in man while the husk can be compared to desire which reduces God to man."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: No, no.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Therefore my desire is life plus desire equals man. Life minus desire equals God."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: (dictating:) You are desiring to become God. There cannot be no desire. But you're unceremoniously desiring to become God. Although there is no proof in the śāstras. In the Bhagavad-gītā it is accepted that the living entities are sparks of..., part and parcel of God, Kṛṣṇa.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "In the Bhagavad-gītā it is accepted that the living entities..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Are part and parcel of God. But part is never equal to the whole. [break]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "So you can claim as a spark of God, as every living entity can claim but you cannot claim as the..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: The Supreme Person with full power. That is misleading. You can show a little magic, as other magicians also can show.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "You can show a little magic as other magicians can also show."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: But you cannot show the full magic, as Kṛṣṇa displayed or Lord Rāmacandra displayed. Therefore your claim as a full power is completely false and blasphemous.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: "Therefore your claim for full power is completely false..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: And blasphemous. In this way find out.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Completely Māyāvādī.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Yes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Completely.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: Yes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Now someone may bring up the one point, they say "Well, if an avatāra comes if he must show all kinds of great opulences and powers, then he says sometimes the incarnation shows this, but sometimes, like when Lord Caitanya appeared He didn't show viśvarūpa or..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: But He never claimed that "I am avatāra." But we understand from the śāstric evidence. He never claimed. Rather when He was addressed as Kṛṣṇa He blocked His ears, "You don't say like that." He never claimed. He fully displayed Himself as a devotee. Not Bhagavān. Therefore Gaurāṅgavāda is illegal. Gaurāṅga-nāgarī. That is illegal. Moha-vāda or something like that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Gaurāṅga-nāgarī, mentioning Lord Caitanya in the role of Kṛṣṇa dancing with the...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prabhupāda: In this way, find out the faulty statement and give him proof. He can claim... Hm.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pradyumna: Thank you, Śrīla Prabhupāda &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Vrindavan, India (CNN)&lt;/b&gt; -- In the picturesque temple 
town of Vrindavan, 10-year-old Maya and her three siblings walk to 
school every day on an empty stomach. She says her parents can't afford 
to feed them adequate meals; they eat bread and milk for dinner and 
nothing for breakfast.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;As the eldest child, she 
often has to skip class to help her parents harvest wheat. Maya says her
 parents believe this is a more efficient use of her time, but she has 
another good reason for attending school -- more food.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"At school we get the 
most amount of food. At home we don't get this much. At home my mother 
tells us to only eat a little bit so there's enough for everyone," she 
says.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Following a landmark 
decision by the Supreme Court in 2001, all government schools in India 
are mandated to provide free meals to students below the age of 13. In a
 country where more than 40% of children below the age of five are 
underweight, according to UNICEF, India's midday meal scheme is making 
great strides.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;The Akshaya Patra Foundation
 is working with the government to feed 1.4 million underprivileged 
children every day. They began in 2000, feeding a few thousand school 
children in several schools in the southern city of Bangalore. But in 
the space of a decade, they say they've served more than a billion meals
 across the country. Akshaya Patra's Vice Chairman, Chanchalapathi Dasa,
 says the benefits are manifold. Enrollment in schools has increased by 
roughly 20%, attendance has improved, children are healthier and their 
cognitive abilities have also increased.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"If a child is hungry in the classroom then he or she will not be able to receive all this education," says Dasa.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;But preparing food for so many takes more than an ordinary kitchen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;You could call it a 
culinary revolution. In what looks like a factory for food, fresh meals 
are being mass-produced for millions of children. Custom-made cauldrons 
can prepare rice for 1,000 kids in 15 minutes. A printing press-like 
machine can make an impressive 40,000 Indian flatbreads or chapattis in 
an hour.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"India is a place of 
numbers. If you're doing something to provide meals for 1,000 or even 
5,000 children, you are merely scratching the surface," adds Dasa. "From
 the beginning we at Akhshay Patra realized that in order to see a 
significant impact we have to do it in scale and that we have to use 
modern techniques of management and innovation."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;They call it a three 
tier gravity flow kitchen. Tons of raw ingredients like rice, lentils 
and vegetables are taken to the top floor where they're cleaned, peeled,
 cut and sent down chutes into waiting cauldrons below. There, steam 
generated by furnaces cooks the food. The cooked meals are then thrown 
down chutes to another level where the meals are packaged. By 8 a.m. 
meals are ready to be delivered in special vehicles designed to keep the
 food warm.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;But while the food production process is efficient, it is also considered.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"We want to treat these 
children with dignity. We don't say 'you are poor children and whatever 
we give you, you must eat that,' no. We adapt our cooking methods, our 
menus, recipes to meet the local children's requirements," says Dasa.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"You see, in India every
 300 miles you come across a different culture, a different language, a 
different kind of food habit, so at Akshaya Patra we are sensitive to 
local cultural requirements and tastes."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;While there are several 
school feeding programs that distribute rations of wheat and rice, 
cooked meal programs are rare. This is one of the most successful 
assistance programs yet -- nourishing food for millions of children and 
food for thought in the fight against poverty.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span id="advenueINTEXT" name="advenueINTEXT" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;THE TIMES OF INDIA: MUMBAI:&lt;/b&gt; Is spreading
 the virtues of vegetarianism a good enough reason to avoid tax? One of 
these days, the court may have to take a call on whether it wants to 
listen to the taxman's argument that it isn't.  &lt;br /&gt; The 
other protagonist in the brewing court tussle involves Iskcon — one of 
the largest trusts known for its 'Hare Krishna Movement' — whose 
earnings from 'Govinda', a popular  vegetarian restaurant chain, has come under the Income-Tax Department's glare. &lt;br /&gt; For the taxman,  Govinda
 is a pure commercial activity, but for Iskcon, inculcating vegetarian 
food habits is nothing but charity that should be free from taxation. 
Moreover, a major portion of Govinda's income is donated to charity, 
which publishes brochures and booklets for the promotion of 
vegetarianism.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span id="advenueINTEXT" name="advenueINTEXT" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span id="advenueINTEXT" name="advenueINTEXT"&gt;But the tax office thinks 
otherwise. According to the I-T Department, the restaurant's activities 
and source of income clearly fall under the definition of "business". &lt;br /&gt;
 Last year, the Appellate Tribunal, a quasi-judicial authority, had 
dismissed the stand taken by the department, which then approached the 
high court to argue its point. A tax professional familiar with the case
 said the hearing for admission of the department's plea is expected to 
come up "any time now". &lt;br /&gt; "If the court admits the petition, it 
will be a landmark case. All the more because the definition of 
'charitable purpose' has been widened from the start of assessment year 
2009-10," said Arvind Dalal, a senior chartered accountant and an 
authority on trust matters. Indeed, the language of the law is such that
 many other establishments that are not religious or charity trusts have
 caught the tax department's attention. For instance, a posh club in 
Mumbai's Bandra suburb and a leading chamber of commerce have received 
tax scrutiny notices. &lt;br /&gt; They will have to explain why they should
 not be taxed on their collection of huge fees and earnings from 
services provided to members. &lt;br /&gt; According to an official of one 
of the chambers that has received a tax notice, earnings of an industry 
association are out of issuance of certificate of origins to its 
members, which is a statutory activity and, therefore, should not be 
taxed. Cases like these would also eventually come up in tribunals and 
boil over to courts. &lt;br /&gt; But many feel that the tax department may 
be slowly walking into a touchy territory with its interpretation of the
 law and subsequent decision to make tax demands on activities of 
religious trusts. "There are trusts which are essentially religious in 
nature but have earnings which are not pure anonymous donations. &lt;br /&gt;
 One can ponder how will tax authorities view the earnings of a temple 
trust that has sizeable income from selling hairs of devotees who have 
their heads tonsured... One has to wait to find out how far the 
department will go given the public sentiment and sensitivity around 
religion," said Anup Shah, partner at Mumbai based chartered accountancy
 firm Pravin P Shah &amp;amp; Company.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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 Charitable trust, till recently, included activities like relief to the
 poor, education, medical relief and the 'advancement of any other 
object of general public utility'. In a circular dated December 19, 
2008, the fourth limb of the definition was tweaked to say an activity 
would cease to be a charity — and, therefore, has to pay tax — if it 
carried on any activity "in the nature of trade, commerce or business", 
or "any activity of rendering any service in relation to any trade 
commerce or business" for a cess, or fee, or any other consideration. 
While the particular dispute with Iskcon pertains to financial year 
2007-08, the income of the trust-run vegetarian restaurant in subsequent
 years may be taken up by the department. &lt;br /&gt; There are other cases
 that will also test the tax department's contention on matters related 
to charitable trusts. ET, in its edition dated November 11, 2012, had 
reported that the I-T Department told Shiv Mandir Devsttan Panch 
Committee Sanstan — a temple trust in Nagpur — that it carried out 
'religious activities' and spent money for maintenance of temples; here,
 the tax authority argued that anyone making a donation will enjoy a tax
 deduction — in other words, the person's taxable income would be lower —
 only if the institution receiving the donation is into 'charitable 
activities', and was not working for the benefit of any particular 
religious community or caste. &lt;br /&gt; In fact, other than certain 
simple structures, many trusts will find themselves having to deal with 
the tax department, feels Dalal. "For example, an activity like an 
endowment trust using its interest income to give out scholarship to 
needy students will be exempted is a fairly straight forward case and 
will be spared on tax. But, not all trusts....the problem is that in the
 process some genuine charitable activities may also attract the tax 
department's attention," he said. There will be grey areas and tax 
officers have the powers to decide whether an activity is business. &lt;br /&gt;
 The government has made it adequately clear that whether an entity is 
carrying on an activity in the nature of trade, commerce or business is a
 question of fact which will be decided "based on the nature, scope, 
extent and frequency of the activity".&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Whereas in 1990 the GBC Body ruled that the doctrine called the 
“posthumous ritvik theory” or “post-samadhi ritvik theory” (hereinafter 
called “ritvikism”) is a “dangerous philosophical deviation” and 
prohibited its teaching and practice in ISKCON, and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Whereas the decision of the GBC Body has been recorded in the ISKCON 
Law Book under the heading “Specifically Outlawed Doctrines and 
Practices”, as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;“6.4.7.2 ’Posthumous Ritvik’ Doctrine&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;“The doctrine that Srila Prabhupada continues to initiate direct 
diksa disciples after his departure from this world through officiating 
priests (ritviks) is a dangerous philosophical deviation. It is totally 
prohibited in ISKCON. No devotee shall participate in such posthumous 
ritvik initiation ceremonies in any capacity including acting as ritvik,
 initiate, assistant, organizer, or financier. No ISKCON devotee shall 
advocate or support its practice.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;And,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Whereas a number of devotees in and around ISKCON, some of whom hold 
positions in ISKCON as managerial and spiritual authorities, have begun 
again to practice and preach a refurbished version of ritvikism, and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Whereas the GBC Body has again carefully examined the case for 
ritvikism as currently presented, having had representatives meet at 
various times and places with its advocates to hear them make their 
case, and has, as a body sitting in plenary session on 9 February, 1999,
 carefully heard the case personally advocated by Adridharan Prabhu, 
president of Calcutta temple, Sattvik Prabhu, vice-president of Calcutta
 temple, and Madhu Pandita Prabhu, president of Bangalore temple, and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Whereas the GBC Body has given the current versions of ritvikism 
careful attention and all due deliberation to the best of its ability:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Be it hereby resolved THAT&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;1) The GBC Body states that it finds the arguments for ritvikism as 
represented to it by Madhu Pandita Dasa and other of his associates, and
 as preached by them around the world, to be erroneous in its conclusion
 as well as specious and sophistical in its conduct. The case for 
ritvikism is false and duplicitous in its method of procedure and in its
 selection and use of evidence. It depends heavily on speculation and 
word-jugglery. It presents it’s radical and speculative departures from 
the consistent teachings of Srila Prabhupada, his predecessor acaryas, 
Srila Vyasadeva, and the Lord Himself, under the name of “tradition” and
 “no change.” The effect of these arguments is only to bewilder, delude,
 and misguide innocent devotees from the teaching set forth by Krishna 
and upheld without exception by all Vaisnava acaryas.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;2) The GBC Body reaffirms strongly its resolution of 1990 entitled “Prohibition Order Against the Posthumous Ritvik Theory.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;3) ISKCON Law 6.4.7.2 is hereby amended to read as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;“6.4.7.2 ‘Ritvikism’ aka ‘Posthumous Ritvik Theory,’ 
‘Post-Samadhi-Ritvik Theory,’ ‘Proxy Initiation Theory,’ ‘No Change 
Theory,’ etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;“The doctrine that Srila Prabhupada desired to continue to act as 
diksa guru after his departure from this world and did not desire any of
 his disciples to give diksa in succession after him is a dangerous 
philosophical deviation. Ritvikism directly goes against the principle 
of parampara itself (of successive diksa and siksa gurus), which 
sustains the pure teachings and practices of Krishna consciousness. This
 principle has been established by Krishna and is upheld by all Vaisnava
 acaryas. Indeed, it is accepted by all followers of Vedic culture. 
Ritvikism is thus an extreme deviation. It is utterly erroneous to 
espouse it, deluding and misguiding to teach it, and blasphemous to 
attribute it to Srila Prabhupada. No one who espouses, teaches, supports
 in any way, or practices ritvikism can be a member in good standing of 
ISKCON.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;4) The GBC acknowledges that this Body has since 1977 made changes in
 the manner in which initiations are carried out in ISKCON, is 
contemplating changes at present, and may well make changes in the 
future. However, the GBC Body maintains that these changes concern 
practical adjustments according to time, place, and object undertaken in
 the application of absolute, unchanging principle. Ritvikism 
contravenes absolute, unchanging principle. Hence it is categorically 
different from the permissible adjustments within the power of the GBC 
Body. In spite of its adjustments, the GBC Body has held steadily to the
 principle of parampara and remains committed to it, for it is the 
teaching of Srila Prabhupada and his predecessors, and it is a necessity
 in the matter of sustaining a living tradition. [All sections of 301 
passed unanimously.]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[LAW] ENFORCEMENT OF ISKCON LAW REGARDING RITVIKISM&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Whereas a number of devotees in and around ISKCON have begun again to
 practice and preach “ritvikism,” even though it is prohibited by ISKCON
 Law as a “dangerous philosophical deviation,” and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Whereas Among those espousing or preaching ritvikism there are 
several who hold positions in ISKCON as managerial or spiritual 
authorities,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;It is hereby resolved THAT:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;1) The GBC Body unequivocally rejects in principle any proposals that
 rivikism be in some manner or another accommodated or tolerated within 
ISKCON. [Passed unanimously.]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;2) The GBC Body hereby makes known it’s strong determination to 
enforce ISKCON law in the matter of ritvikism, and it enjoins upon all 
its members and other official bodies, officers, and other authorities 
in ISKCON, such as Regional Governing Boards, regional secretaries, GBC 
ministers, sannyasis, initiating gurus, temple presidents, and temple 
officers, the responsibility to take every appropriate action, according
 to ISKCON law, to enforce the prohibition against ritvikism in ISKCON. 
[Passed unanimously]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;3) A. The GBC Body declares that to espouse or preach ritvikism 
includes the following censurable offenses under the provision of ISKCON
 Law (8.4.1. 3):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;1. Conscious and serious philosophical deviation from Srila Prabhupada’s teachings&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;2. Willful violation of GBC Body resolutions&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;B. Further, the GBC Body hereby rules that in relation to the 
espousal of ritvikism these offenses are of a sufficiently serious 
nature as to warrant immediate imposition of the penalty of probation, 
including its attendant program for rectification.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;C. Further, the GBC Body hereby empowers the Executive Committee for 
the year 1999-2000 to place any ISKCON member who espouses ritvikism on 
probation, and, in consultation with that member’s immediate local 
authority or local GBC member, to establish a specific program of 
rectification, as provided in ISKCON Law 8.4.2.2, which can include&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;1. Disciplinary or remedial transfer to another location.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;2. Reformatory change of service.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;3. Prohibited for visiting or living in a specified temple or community.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;4. Specific spiritual remedial programs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;5. A divestiture of certain actions for the period of probation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;6. Reasonable and just reformatory programs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;4). The GBC Body hereby undertakes the following actions with respect
 to the following members who are public advocates of ritvikism in 
ISKCON, who currently hold positions of managerial or spiritual 
authority in ISKCON, and who have heretofore rejected all appeals and 
reasoning by ISKCON authorities to conform to ISKCON Law &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-X2DbGji2BTg/UUrhNpGUp8I/AAAAAAAAK08/rVFOvrU7xyU/s1600/Nava-Yogendra-Maharaj-Ritvik.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-X2DbGji2BTg/UUrhNpGUp8I/AAAAAAAAK08/rVFOvrU7xyU/s320/Nava-Yogendra-Maharaj-Ritvik.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;1. Adridharan Dasa, President of ISKCON Calcutta&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;2. Sattvik Dasa, Vice-president of ISKCON Calcutta&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;3. Madhu Pandita Dasa, President of ISKCON Bangalore&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;4. Cancalapati Dasa, Vice-President of ISKCON Bangalore&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;5. Sunder Gopal Dasa, leader in Singapore&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;6. &lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;Navayogendra Swami, initiating guru&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;7. Jayadvaja Swami, sannyasi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Whereas the GBC Body wishes to empower the Executive Committee of 
1999-2000 to deal with these members appropriately, through as much 
dialogue and negotiation as possible, And, at the same time, it wishes 
to empower the committee with the ability to provide a system of 
rectification or to expel any of these members from ISKCON if it deems 
necessary because of developments during the course of the year,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Therefore, be it also resolved THAT:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;A. The GBC Body, by a required two-thirds (2/3) minimum vote, 
expresses its judgement that the actions of these seven above listed 
persons are already so extreme as to meet two of the requirements for 
expulsion from ISKCON: a) they are openly deviating from the fundamental
 tenets of the Society’s teaching, and b) they are openly and flagrantly
 antagonistic to the GBC Body and other ISKCON authority.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;B. In consideration of the above findings the individuals Adridharan 
Das, Sattvik Das, Madhu Pandita Dasa, Cancalapati Dasa and Navayogendra 
Swami, as above listed, being members of ISKCON India, are hereby deemed
 as unfit to be members of ISKCON India. This shall take effect after 31
 March, 1999, unless the Executive Committee of the GBC Body deems them 
rectified sufficiently to remain as ISKCON members and issues a written 
statement to that effect.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;C. The GBC Body, by a two-thirds (2/3) vote, in accordance with GBC 
Rules of Order, empowers the GBC Executive Committee to censure, put on 
probation, suspend or expel from ISKCON and its affiliates the above 
mentioned seven devotees both as members and as officers, as it deems 
appropriate and warranted without the necessity of further authorization
 from the GBC Body. The act of the Executive Committee in this regard 
shall carry the same effect and power as if taken by the whole Governing
 Body Commission.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;D. The GBC Body hereby places Adridharan Das, Madhu Pandita Das and 
Navayogendra Swami on probation as ISKCON Branch Managers/Temple 
Presidents and Sattvik Das, Chanchalapati Das on probation as 
Vice-Presidents of branches. The GBC Executive Committee is hereby 
enjoined to establish by March 31, 1999 the conditions of rectification 
and probation for this year.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Statement of the Governing Body 
Commission (GBC) of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness 
(ISKCON).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="313" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UXXVU0OzDno/UUL-obB9MYI/AAAAAAAAK0o/IRW3_8sppcs/s320/bp-srila-prabhupada.png" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
As the Founder-Acharya of the International Society for Krishna 
Consciousness (ISKCON) and the &lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;preeminent teacher and ultimate authority
 within our society&lt;/span&gt;, Srila Prabhupada has a unique relationship with 
every ISKCON devotee.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Lord Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is the original guru 
whose Divine Grace descends through the medium of the Guru Parampara. As
 such, a devotee is ultimately delivered by Sri Krishna acting through a
 combination of various manifestations of His mercy. These include, but 
are not limited to, the chaitya guru, Srila Prabhupada, the Guru 
Parampara, one’s diksha guru, other siksha gurus, the Holy Name, sastra,
 and the nine processes of devotional service.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Within these cooperative elements, Srila Prabhupada, as the 
Founder-Acharya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, 
is the preeminent guru for all members of ISKCON. All members of ISKCON,
 for all generations, are encouraged to seek shelter of Srila 
Prabhupada.&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt; All members of ISKCON are entitled and encouraged to have a 
personal relationship with Srila Prabhupada through his books, 
teachings, service, and his ISKCON society.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
All members accepting leadership roles within ISKCON, including diksha 
gurus and siksha gurus, have the duty of serving together under ISKCON’s
 Governing Body Commission (GBC) to fulfill Srila Prabhupada’s 
instructions as he has given in his books, lectures, and personal 
communications.[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Overall, the primary duty of all diksha gurus, siksha gurus and others 
in leadership positions is to assist Srila Prabhupada in his service to 
his Guru Maharaja Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur, and our Brahma
 Madhva Gaudiya Sampradaya.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Those who accept the service of diksha guru or siksha guru in ISKCON are
 required to be exemplary in representing Srila Prabhupada’s teaching in
 their words and personal behavior. The siksha guru gives spiritual 
instruction and inspiration on behalf of Srila Prabhupada and our Guru 
Parampara. &lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;The diksha guru gives spiritual instruction, inspiration, 
formal initiation, a spiritual name, and later imparts the sacred 
Gayatri mantras to a qualified disciple as a service to Srila Prabhupada
 and our Guru Parampara.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Srila Prabhupada has clearly explained that devotees who are strictly 
following the Krishna Conscious principles are acting on the liberated 
platform, and, as such, are pure devotees, even though they may actually
 not yet be liberated. [2] (Such unalloyed devotional service is not 
necessarily determined by one’s role or position of service, but by 
one’s realization.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;Those who accept the service of diksha or siksha guru within ISKCON are 
mandated to be strict followers of the instructions of Srila Prabhupada&lt;/span&gt;,
 and, as long as they follow, they are acting on the liberated platform.
 Thus they may serve, as Srila Prabhupada ordered, as bonafide 
representatives of the Lord and the Guru Parampara and be a via medium 
of Their mercy. Yet it should be clearly understood that if such diksha 
or siksha gurus deviate from strictly following, they may fall down from
 their position.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thus, to act as a diksha guru in ISKCON means to serve under the GBC and
 in cooperation with other ISKCON authorities by functioning as a 
“regular guru” as Srila Prabhupada has directed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This statement, while conclusive, is not exhaustive in its discussion of
 these principles. The GBC may authorize additional statements and 
papers in the future to further explain the preeminent position of our 
Founder-Acharya Srila Prabhupada, the role and responsibilities of those
 who serve as gurus in our society, and the related duties of ISKCON 
members and initiates.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
All GBC members must distribute this resolution to all ISKCON temples, 
communities and congregations via all appropriate means of communication
 for the education of all ISKCON members. This statement shall also be 
studied in ISKCON courses including introductory courses, the ISKCON 
Disciple Course, the Spiritual Leadership Seminar, and other relevant 
venues. Reading this statement, and affirming it has been read prior to 
initiation, shall be part of the test for all prospective initiates.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;

&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
1. More details on these spiritual relationships and duties may be found
 in the official “Lines of Authority” Paper approved by the GBC in 2012.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
2. “This Krishna consciousness movement directly receives instructions 
from the Supreme Personality of Godhead via persons who are strictly 
following His instructions. Although a follower may not be a liberated 
person, if he follows the supreme, liberated Personality of Godhead, his
 actions are naturally liberated from the contamination of the material 
nature. Lord Caitanya therefore says: ‘By My order you may become a 
spiritual master.’ One can immediately become a spiritual master by 
having full faith in the transcendental words of the Supreme Personality
 of Godhead and by following His instructions.” Purport to SB 4.18.5.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
And…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
“A person who is liberated acharya and guru cannot commit any mistake, 
but there are persons who are less qualified or not liberated, but still
 can act as guru and acharya by strictly following the disciplic 
succession.” Letter to Janardana, 26 April, 1968&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
And…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
“We may not be cent percent perfect, but as far as possible, if we 
follow the instruction as it is, that much perfect. In this way one will
 get perfection. So one has to follow. The same example, try to 
understand, that a perfect, expert technologist or technician or 
mechanic is working, and somebody is working under his instruction. So 
this somebody, because he is strictly working under the instruction of 
the expert, he's also expert. He may not be cent percent expert, but his
 work is expert. Is that clear? Because he is working under the expert. 
Do you follow? So if you follow pure devotee, then you are also pure 
devotee. It may not be one is cent percent pure. Because we are trying 
to raise ourself from the conditional life. But if we strictly follow 
the pure devotee, then we are also pure devotee. So far we do, that is 
pure. So pure devotee does not mean one has to become immediately cent 
percent pure. But if he sticks to the principle that "We'll follow a 
pure devotee," then his actions are... He is as good as a pure devotee. 
It is not I am explaining in my own way. It is the explanation of 
Bhagavata. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah [Cc. Madhya 17.186].” Ref. 
VedaBase =&amp;gt; Bhagavad-gita 2.1-10 and Talk -- Los Angeles, November 
25, 1968&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;ISKCON TRUTH Analysis:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;The high&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;light&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ed area &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;tell us that GBC wants ritvik system however th&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ey have used "Diksha guru" &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;instead&lt;/span&gt; of ritvik. The other statement&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; which says "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;to act as a diksha guru &lt;/span&gt;in ISKCON means to serve under the GBC and
 in cooperation with other ISKCON authorities by functioning as a 
“regular guru” as Srila Prabhupada has directed."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;This is called&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;cooking up things. The few statements which i have marked &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;above&lt;/span&gt; indicate&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;s that &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ISKCON &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;devotees should follow and worship srila prabhupada but this &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;particular&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;s&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;t&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ate&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ment says&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; that "to act as diksha guru in iskcon"&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; (how &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;do you act as a &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;diksha guru?&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &amp;amp; a Guru should be under GBC.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Well, srila prabhupada has told us that a guru is abo&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ve everything.... then whats th&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;is?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;GBC ARE YOU LISTENING???&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Akshaya Patra receives Gold Award at LACP 2011/12 Vision Awards &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;The League of American 
Communications Professionals (LACP) has honoured The Akshaya Patra 
Foundation with a Vision Award in&amp;nbsp;Gold&amp;nbsp;in recognition of Akshaya Patra´s
 2011-12 Annual Report. This is the second consecutive LACP Award for 
the Foundation. The 2011/12 Vision Awards Annual Report Competition 
received more than 5,500 entries from across more than two-dozen 
countries and across all industry types.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Akshaya
 Patra has received two LACP Awards at the 2011/12 Vision Awards Annual 
Report Competition. One it received Gold Award for excellence within its
 industry (Non-Profit-Organization) on the development of the 
organization’s annual report for the past fiscal year. Second, the 
Foundation has been recognized for developing one of the Top 100 Annual 
Reports Worldwide and is ranked at 30&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;. In the last fiscal 
year, Akshaya Patra’s Annual Report was ranked 73rd worldwide and this 
year it has climbed the ladder by 43 positions.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;The Foundation is proud to receive this 
award and is further motivated to work towards its cause. Akshaya Patra 
implements the mid-day meal programme under the aegis of the Central and
 various State Governments. Currently, it is feeding 1.3 million 
children across 19 locations of 9 Indian states covering more than 9000 
schools everyday. The mission of Akshaya Patra is to feed 5 million 
children by 2020.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Akshaya Patra receives Gold Award at PRCI Corporate Collateral Awards 2013&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;The Public Relation Council of India&amp;nbsp;(PRCI) recently held its 7&lt;sup&gt;th &lt;/sup&gt;Annual
 Global Communication Conclave at Hyderabad. It was a two-day Global 
Meet and the agenda included: Induction of PR Professionals into Hall of
 Fame; Chanakya Awards for Achievers; followed by Corporate Collateral 
Award. The Akshaya Patra Foundation received a Gold Award in PRCI 
Corporate Collateral Awards-2013.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;PRCI
 is a National Body of professionals from Public Relations, Corporate 
Communications, Advertising, Media, Event Managers and Academicians. It 
was established in 2004 and is headquartered in Bangalore. It is spread 
across India in 23 centres. The PRCI’s Corporate Collateral Awards 
recognizes professional standards in communication support material in 
the categories like Annual Report, Corporate Brochures, Newsletters, and
 the like. Gold, Silver and Bronze are the awards for each category. 
Akshaya Patra bagged the Gold Award in the category of Corporate 
Brochure.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The Akshaya Patra Foundation receives ICAI Gold Shield Award for the 4th consecutive year&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The Akshaya Patra Foundation has been 
conferred the ICAI Gold Shield Award for the 4thconsecutive year. This 
is the highest award given by the Institute of Chartered Accountants of 
India (ICAI) for Excellence in Financial Reporting. Akshaya Patra bagged
 this award for the Annual Report 2011-12. The Award ceremony was&amp;nbsp;held 
in Mumbai&amp;nbsp;recently, as a part of the International Conference held by 
ICAI. Dr Ashwani Kumar, Honourable Union Minister for Law and Justice 
presented the Gold Shield Award to Akshaya Patra representatives. V.N 
Kaul, the former Comptroller &amp;amp; Auditor General of India, who was the
 Chief of the Jury for these awards, and was also present during the 
award ceremony. We were also recognized as the first NGO in India to 
comply with the International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;All
 the awardees including Akshaya Patra have been selected by the panel of
 judges on review of accounting practices adopted by the participating 
enterprises in the preparation of financial statements and the policies 
adopted for disclosure and presentation of financial statements and 
other information in the annual reports without regard to the financial 
condition and operating performance. ICAI adopts a very rigorous process
 for identifying the deserving awardees. Akshaya Patra has been awarded 
after considering some of the key parameters such as:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;• Compliance with statutory requirements
 and requirements of concerned regulators for preparation and 
presentation of Financial Statements;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;• Quality of financial information as judged from the qualifications in the auditor’s report; and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;• The extent, nature and quality of non financial information presented in the annual report.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Though there are no established reporting norms / standards 
applicable to our Foundation (since we are an NGO registered under the 
Indian Trusts Act,1882), we have taken the initiative to comply with the
 IFRS as well as the Revised Schedule VI format of presentation of 
Financial Statements under the Indian GAAP (Generally Accepted 
Accounting Practices). This also demonstrates the level of transparency 
in our financial reporting.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The Vice Chairman, Chanchalapathi Dasa said, “The ICAI Award is a 
testimony to the transparent and responsible usage of funds by Akshaya 
Patra. This is a moment of celebration for all of us at Akshaya Patra 
and at the same time it has strengthened our commitment to reach out to 
more children.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The Akshaya Patra Foundation is a Bangalore based NGO implementing 
the Mid-Day Meal programme in Government schools and Government-aided 
schools. It is currently operating in 19 locations in 9 states of India.
 Through this programme Akshaya Patra feeds 1.3 million children across 
India everyday. It aims to feed 5 million children by the year 2020. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Hindu:&lt;/b&gt; The Lord Krishna temple to be built by the International
 Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) in Vellore would be based on
 South Indian temple architecture, said Priya Govinda Das, spiritual 
mentor of ISKCON, Vellore.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Talking to
&lt;i&gt;The Hindu&lt;/i&gt;
on Wednesday at Hare Krishna Land, a seven-acre stretch acquired by 
ISKCON in Poigai Mottur village in Vellore taluk, 10 km from Vellore 
city and about five km off the Chennai-Bangalore National Highway, Mr. 
Das said that ISKCON has planned to build a traditional stone temple for
 Lord Krishna that would last for more than 1,000 years. “We want to do 
some serious research on the type of materials to be used to build the 
temple before starting the work. It would take another 10 years for the 
temple to be ready”, he said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;At present, the Hare 
Krishna Land has a couple of buildings which houses a temporary temple, 
kitchen, Prasadam hall and a Brahmacharis’ (celibates) rest house. A new
 four-storeyed guest house would be built at the spot to accommodate the
 devotees who visit the temple. The proposed guest house would have 
about 60 rooms, said Mr. Das.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;A group of 10 ISKCON 
devotees from the U.S. visited the ISKCON centre here on Wednesday, as 
part of their pilgrimage to India. The devotees had already visited 
Tirupathi, Ahobilam, Srirangam and Udipi. From here, they left for 
Salem, after which they would be visiting other pilgrim centres in the 
country.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;The Bhagawad Gita philosophy, he said, was 
not sectarian knowledge belonging to any particular caste, creed or 
entity, but meant for all living entities.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ISKCON 
founder A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada who went to the U.S. in 1965
 and founded ISKCON in 1966 preached the message in the U.S. In 12 
years, he travelled all over the world 14 times. He gave an 
institutional structure to preach the message of Bhagawad Gita in an 
organised way. He built 108 temples and wrote more than 80 volumes of 
books. “We have more than 500 ISKCON temples in more than 160 
countries”, he said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;About the project&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Vellore popularly known as Fort Town of Tamilnadu is situated in the 
Northern part of Tamilnadu and surrounded by small towns like Arcot, 
Arni, etc.  It has a big historical background.  It is Chennai – 
Bangalore highway   kms from Chennai.  Katpadi Railway Junction is the 
main Railway Station which is on the Chennai – Bangalore Railway line.  
It is one of the fast developing towns of Tamilnadu. 
The famous Christian Missionary Hospital (C.M.C). V.I.T, Vellore 
Institute of Technology and Golden Temple are situated in Vellore.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ISKCON was started preaching in Vellore before 7 years in a rented 
place.  In the past 7 years it has made many fulltime and family 
devotees.  Its Krishna Janmastami function conducted at Ford Ground 
every year attracts thousands of people.  To provide a base for the 
devotees for practising Krishna consciousness and attract the General 
people ISKCON Vellore has decided to build its own temple for this 
purpose it has purchased 7 acres of land in a village known as Poigai 
Mottur, which is 10 kms from 
Vellore old Bus Stand and New Bus Stand.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ISKCON, Vellore project has three phases.   In the first phase a Temple 
(Double Storey)  will be built.  It will have a temple hall which cans 
accommodate 700 devotees, 3 guest rooms, 3 rooms for official purpose 
and a Brahmachari Ashram which can accommodate 60 devotees.  Another 
building known as Prasadam Bhavan has been already constructed which 
have a big kitchen and Prasadam Hall.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;In the Second Phase a big guest house with 40 rooms will be constructed 
with all facilities.  It is meant for giving accommodations etc.,  In 
this ground floor of this building a Govinda restaurant will be 
constructed to provide.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;There will be small deities of six Goswamis also.

Big boundary walls along with four gopurams will surround the temple and
 Vimana will be on Radha-Krishna deity.  The whole stone structure will 
have intricate carvings and paintings.


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&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-A3Ceu4QOIL4/UTcYypPuLCI/AAAAAAAAKzg/uTZdLYrDZqo/s1600/Sparkle-Ball-london.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-A3Ceu4QOIL4/UTcYypPuLCI/AAAAAAAAKzg/uTZdLYrDZqo/s400/Sparkle-Ball-london.jpg" width="272" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Stars from the Indian cinema helped to raise thousands at a fashion fundraiser hosted by the Akshaya Patra Foundation.
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
  Legendary film stars Waheeda Rehman, Javed Akhtar and Shabana Azmi 
were at the 'Sparkle Ball' - to raise money for the world’s largest 
NGO-run school meal programme, which feeds and educates some of India’s 
poorest, underprivileged childen.
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  Other attendees included LN Mittal and family, the Chairman of The 
Akshaya Patra Foundation UK Harin Thaker,and the advisory board members,
 Yogesh Mehta, Prashant Jhawar and Nirmal Banthia.
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  The Victorian Arches of the Great Room at Vinopolis hosted 400 of the 
leading lights from the Indian community in London and India.
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
  TV personality Konnie Huq hosted the night which began with a 
champagne reception followed by a gastronomic journey showcasing the 
best of Indian fusion cuisine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;A highlight of the prestigious event was the exclusive unveiling of 
celebrated Indian designer Anamika Khanna’s new Luxury 2013 collection.
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;
  The Kolkata based fashionista, who has designed for Bollywood royalty 
Sonam Kapoor and Priyanka Chopra, has the notable honour of being the 
first designer from India to launch an international label, and is one 
of the first Indian designers to show at Paris Fashion Week.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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  The centre piece of the auction was the 'Adopt a School' appeal, where
 for £2,500 donors could sponsor school lunches in a single school for 
an entire year.
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  Dipika Khaitan said: “We are thrilled at the success of this evening 
and were delighted by the VIP and celebrity turn out who pledged their 
support. It was a fantastic event in aid of such a very worthy cause and
 a good night was had by all.
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  "A highlight of the event was the magnificent fashion show by the 
talented Anamika Khanna, who amazed guests with her new Luxury 2013 
collection of inspired and absolutely beautiful new creations. I’ve had 
very positive feedback about the fashion show, with guests loving the 
whole look, staging and theme of the show.
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  “The UK chapter of The Akshaya Patra Foundation has so far raised 
funds to provide meals in approximately 250 schools which is 75,000 
children.
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  "The funds raised by peoples’ enormous generosity has been so beneficial in helping us to continue our vital work
 to feed and educate some of India’s poorest and deprived children. The 
Akshaya Patra Foundation often provides a lifeline for children to eat 
well, which in turn aids their educational development, which then can 
help them to achieve their full potential.
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  “My heartfelt gratitude to everyone who attended this event, and those
 who have and continue to support our vital work – it is very much 
appreciated.”
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  Today, The Akshaya Patra Foundation provides freshly prepared, 
nutritious meals daily to over 1.3 million underprivileged children in 
over 8000 schools in NINE states from 19 kitchens. International 
communications agency Sterling Media was proud to be the event’s 
official Event and PR partner.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Glamour Magazine&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt; By Debbie Seaman&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;/span&gt;The radio show 26-year-old Ananada Tiller was listening to in her car 
one day last year seemed innocent: The announcer was reporting on a 
children's balloon-blowing contest. Yet it triggered a memory so jarring
 that Tiller served over a median.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As a deejay described how the children's cheeks ached from blowing up 
the balloons, Tiller recalled a time when, at six years old, her own 
cheeks ached with pain. But it was not from inflating balloons. Tiller, 
she found herself remembering, had been tied to a chair as a man forced 
his swollen penis into her mouth. The scene Tiller describes allegedly 
took place in 1981 while she was living in a gurukula, one of the 11 
ashram-based boarding schools across the nation for children whose 
parents were members of the Hare Krishna religious sect. The assault, 
Tiller says, happened in a garage where Krishna devotees made candles to
 sell on the street. She remembers the same man dipping his fingers into
 wax and using them to probe her vagina.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Although her parents removed her from the gurukula at around age 10, 
Tiller charges that the physical scarring from the abuse may result in 
her needing to have a partial hysterectomy. But the emotional scarring 
is what she is struggling most to heal. It's why she has joined the 
nearly 100 others who claim they suffered at the hands of the Krishnas 
in a $400 million lawsuit
 again the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON), the
 founding organization of the Hare Krishnas, which has an estimated one 
million members worldwide and 75,000 in the United States and Canada. 
(The movement, founded by Indian guru Srila Prabhupada in 1966, sought 
to promote peace and love and became popular in the American hippie 
culture of the sixties and seventies.) The lawsuit, filed in June 2000, 
alleges widespread sexual, physical and emotional abuse of young 
children at many of the 11 gurukulas in the United States, primarily 
between 1972 and 1990. The plaintiffs maintain that Hare Krishna 
children were subjected to various types of child abuse, including rape,
 beatings and improper medical care. The suit also alleges that children
 were often denied food and confined inside trash barrels and frequently
 moved to other schools without their parent's knowledge.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Young girls like Tiller who lived in these gurukulas were particularly vulnerable to violation says Nori J. Muster, author of Betrayal of the Spirit
 (University of Illinois Press), an autobiography of her years as a 
Krishna. "Girls were married off as young as age 12 to men about three 
times their age," says Muster. "Since Krishna authorities often allowed 
men to hit their wives for misbehavior, a girl was at the mercy of her 
husband."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Although the case against the Krishnas may not go to trial for another 
year or more, the mere filing of the suit has helped former Krishna 
children mend their lives says Windle Turley, the plaintiff's attorney 
in Dallas who is best-known for winning a $120 million child-abuse suit 
against the Roman Catholic Church in 1997. "It helps victims feel 
validated," Turley explains. ISKCON's attorneys neither confirm nor deny
 that abuse took place at the gurukulas. Individual Krishna devotees, 
however, are being tried in court for these crimes. This summer, a man 
pleaded guilty to sexually abusing two girls and a woman at a Krishna 
community in the late 1980s and was sentenced to eight months in prison.
 Turley's suit, though, could have a far broader impact. "If the 
plaintiffs win it will wipe out the religion's existence," says David 
Liberman, a Krishna and an attorney for ISKCON.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The Appeal of Religion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
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You've probably seen Krishnas-men and women dressed in robes, chanting, 
passing out literature in airports and other public places, panhandling 
for change. Founding guru Prabhupada encouraged parents to leave their 
children in the sect's gurukulas so that the parents could devote 
themselves to spreading the Krishna work and raising money for the 
movement. The absence of parents, however, is one reason that abuse 
became prevalent, according to research by E. Burke Rochford, a 
sociology professor at Middlebury College in Vermont. "Krishna followers
 were taught to put religion ahead of family," notes Rick Ross, a cult 
expert in Jersey City, New Jersey. "They believed that sending their 
children away was best for the children as well as for the group."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

So three-year-old Vilasini Silverman's parents were simply following 
their leader's doctrine when they sent their daughter to the Dallas 
gurukula in 1972 while they remained in Los Angeles to head the large 
Krishna temple there.  "Our routine was to wake up at 4 A.M. and take 
cold showers," says Silverman of boarding school life. "The children 
then spent hours praying and chanting before breakfast, which was served
 on waxed paper on the floor, she continues. "The food frequently had 
bugs in it, but we risked punishment if didn't eat it."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

In 1976, state school authorities closed the Dallas gurukula. For four 
years, Silverman and her older sister, Chandra, traveled with their 
parents back and forth between India and the United States and were 
rarely enrolled in school. But the nightmare of living in a gurukula 
began again for Silverman in 1980, when her parents moved to Saudi 
Arabia for work, leaving the children behind. This time, the experience 
was even more traumatic. Silverman recalls that at barely 13, she was 
attending a Krishna festival in 1982 in West Virginia when a devotee she
 knew who was in his late twenties invited her and a friend to see a 
waterfall nearby. As they descended into a ravine, Silverman realized 
that her friend had turned back. "That's when [the man] threw me down on
 the ground and raped me," Silverman charges. She says she remembers the
 anise aroma of Indian toothpaste on his breath as he pushed up her sari
 and forced himself between her legs. "I had no idea what he was doing."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

The man never uttered a word and afterward rushed back to the festival, 
Silverman says. According to her, he was never charged with the crime-in
 fact, she was made to feel guilty. Her teachers accused her having 
lured the man to have sex with her, she says; as a result, they forbade 
her to speak to anyone or to leave the temple grounds for three months. 
Then, five months later, her mother came to take her to India to marry a
 devotee 11 years her senior, says Silverman.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Compared to Silverman's gurukula existence, married life wasn't so bad. 
Her husband never beat her, and she considered that a blessing. But hope
 disappeared when he divorced her a year later. She ended up at a temple
 in India, where she says she was raped by a worker. "" had absolutely 
no self-worth, no value. The rape made no difference to me," she says.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Being a victim was all Silverman knew. "When you grow up in a isolated 
environment of sexual abuse, you believe repeated abuse is normal, 
especially when you're a child," says cult expert Ross.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Krishna leaders say they are opposed to these violent acts. "It's not 
part of our spiritual teaching to abuse children," says Druta-karma 
Dasa, a member of the Los Angeles Krishna chapter. "We want to prevent 
this." Still, he adds, "if men are put together with women in certain 
situations, they might do things they might not otherwise do."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Silverman believes the abuse she suffered was encouraged by the Krishna 
religion. Says Ross: "Women are devalued by the Krishnas. Krishna women 
are even told that their brains are smaller than men's brains." 
("Biologically, women's brains are smaller than men's," says Svavasa 
Dasa, the Los Angeles Krishna Temple president.) Anutama Dasa, ISKCON'' 
communications director, points out that the Krishna religion, unlike 
some other faiths, permits women to hold positions as high as men do.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

When she was 15, Silverman escaped from the Krishnas for good. Now a 
32-year-old wife and mother of three, she lives with her family in 
Gaithersburg, Maryland, a tranquil suburb of Washington, D.C. But the 
suffering she endured as a child has left scars. "Some days I feel at 
peace, strong and secure," she says. "But most days I just want to crawl
 into a hole and hide."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;A Paradise for Predators&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Along with being separated from their parents, children in the gurukulas
 were typically separated from outside figures such as doctors and 
social workers, who might have been able to identify the violence, 
according to the lawsuit. "By isolating the children and not allowing 
conventional medical care, there was no way for the abuse to be 
recognized," Ross says. The abuse was also hidden from parents, the 
lawsuit states. Elaine Romero, a former Krishna member whose daughter, 
Melody Romero-Gedeon, attended a gurukula, says she got many letters 
from Melody but that none hinted at trouble. "That's because our teacher
 would print on the board what we were supposed to write to our 
parents," explains Romero-Gedeon, 31, a massage therapist in Miami and a
 plaintiff in the suit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

The isolation was made worse because the teachers weren't necessarily 
good with children. In fact, they were made teachers mainly because they
 weren't skilled at raising money, former members claim. Still, Krishna 
leaders maintain that this fact doesn't make ISKCON responsible for the 
abuse. "We were let down by some of the people responsible for child 
care education," says temple president Svavasa Dasa.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Tiller says she felt isolated when she entered the gurukula at age four.
 Across the street, "you could see children playing baseball. I loved 
their clothes, particularly their bathing suits, says Tiller, who was 
almost always dressed in a sari.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

But in her world, she charges, there was persistent violence. "One boy 
was put in a trash can with a sock in his mouth, which was then 
duct-taped shut," she recalls. When a guru discovered that Tiller had a 
Barbie doll (she'd found it in the garbage), she was beaten with a belt,
 Tiller says.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

But the sexual abuse Tiller says she suffered caused the most pain. One 
reason: When it came to sexual offenses, Krishnas often put the blame on
 the female, say both Ross and former Krishna Muster. "One man made me 
perform oral sex, then spit on me to purify himself because I'd made him
 sin," Tiller recalls.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Although it was "normal" for girls to marry at around puberty, Tiller's 
parents refused to let a 30-year-old recruit marry Tiller when she was 
10. But he followed Tiller around and made her watch him masturbate, she
 says.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Tiller's parents removed her and her brother from the gurukula and moved
 them to a Krishna farm in Oklahoma. The family left the Krishnas for 
good when Tiller was 11, but "I was throwing myself out of cars because I
 couldn't put the abuse behind me," she says. At age 15, Tiller checked 
into a psychiatric hospital because of suicidal tendencies. Although she
 thought she was getting better, a year later she screamed at her 
boyfriend when he made amorous advances. He knew about her past and 
insisted she get help. "Only then did I realize I couldn't just jump 
into the real world," says Tiller, now a divorced mother of two. "My 
past was following me wherever I went."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Could it Happen Today?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

ISKCON insists it's trying to prevent future abuse. In 1990, the 
international governing body of Krishnas resolved to create child 
protection teams a its almost 400 temples. But when asked whether such 
teams are in place, Anuttama Dasa, ISKCON's communications director, can
 only say, "That was the policy. They were supposed to be there." About 
three years ago, the religion's Child Protection Office was created to 
provide financial support to victims and to investigate alleged past and
 present abuses. But Dasa won't reveal how much money the office has 
given to victims.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

The Child Protection Office aims, among other thins, to stop the policy 
of teaching children than even hugging is "subtle sex." Says Melody 
Romero-Gedeon, "I thought I was perverted because I liked it when my mom
 kissed me on the cheek."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

And like Silverman, who alleges that she was blamed for provoking a man 
to rape her, Romero-Gedeon felt shame for the violence committed against
 her. "When I confided in my teacher that a devotee put his hand inside 
my underwear, she told me I incited him by acting like a prostitute," 
she recalls. Says Druta-karma Dasa of the L.A. chapter, "Obviously, that
 teacher was wrong."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Despite the abuse, Romero-Gedeon followed the religion until two years 
ago. "It was all I knew," she says. She credits her husband whom she met
 in 1995, for helping her disaffiliate. Her real moment of truth came 
two years ago when she attended a Krishna festival and noticed a teacher
 scolding a young girl. "Her chin quivered," Romero-Gedeon says. "I 
suddenly saw myself in that little girl, and for the first time I cried 
for myself."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Elaine Romero, Romero-Gedeon's mother, says she feels terrible guilt for
 putting her daughter in such a situation. "I thought she would get a 
great education," says Romero, who left the Krishnas two years ago.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Romero-Gedeon still has a fear of the dark and of roaches, the result of
 being forced to sleep in a garage, she says. "I ask my husband ho he 
fell in love with me. He says, 'Because I could see you in there honey! I
 just had to take you out of that negative environment.'"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The Road to Recovery&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

As a result of the lawsuit, Silverman, Tiller and Romero-Gedeon have 
become friends and have created a support network for survivors. In 
July, the three women picketed local Fourth of July Krishna gatherings, 
carrying signs with declarations like ISKCON Rapes Its Women and 
Children. They talked to both Krishnas and onlookers, and Romero-Gedeon 
says she even persuaded one woman not to join ISKCON.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

"Demonstrating empowered us," says Silverman. "It made us feel like we 
have a voice and that our lives, unlike what the Krishnas may say, 
aren't worthless."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;How Sects Endanger Girls&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

Many religious groups have been linked to child abuse, and often it's young girls who are the victims.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

The Branch Davidians&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
Numerous ex-Davidians claim that leader David Koresh sexually abused young girls, and former member Kiri Jewell
 testified that Koresh began having sex with her when she was 10. Koresh
 also fathered a child with his wife's 14-year-old sister because he was
 "commanded" to in a vision, according to David Thibodeau, co-author of 
[a book about the Waco Davidians].&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

The Children of God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
Through his writings, called the "Mo Letters," founder David Brandt Berg
 advocated having sex with prepubescent girls, says cult expert Rick 
Ross. Berg fled to England in 1971 after a New York crime commission 
accused him of numerous offenses, including child molestation. Never 
indicted, he died in 1994.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;

People's Temple&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;
Young girls in this cult were forced to strip and perform sexual acts in
 front of group members, says Kenneth Wooden, author of "The Children of
 Jonestown" (McGraw-Hill). Temple founder Jim Jones wasn't trying to 
punish the girls, Wooden says; he was punishing their parents for 
violating cult rules, including those barring escape.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;A&lt;/span&gt;sian &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;I&lt;/span&gt;mage:&lt;/b&gt; Charity ambassadors and celebrities will gather this Saturday to raise funds for the Akshaya Patra Foundation UK.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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  The star-studded night of haute couture fashion will take place at the Vinopolis in London.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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  The Akshaya Patra Foundation UK is the world’s largest NGO-run school 
meal programme, which feeds and educates some of India’s poorest, 
underprivileged childen.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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  Today, The Akshaya Patra Foundation provides freshly prepared, 
nutritious meals daily to over 1.3 million underprivileged children in 
over 8000 schools in eight states from 19 kitchens.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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  The 'Sparkle Gala' will be hosted by Konnie Huq and will begin with a 
champagne reception followed by a journey showcasing the best of Indian 
fusion cuisine.
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  A highlight will be a spectacular fashion show presented by one of 
India's leading celebrity designers, Anamika Khanna, who will showcase 
her Luxury 2013 collection.
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  The Kolkata based fashionista has the notable &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;honor&lt;/span&gt; of being the 
first designer from India to launch an international label, and is one 
of the first Indian designers to show at Paris Fashion Week. Anamika 
Khanna uses traditional Indian and modern methods, including texturing 
with various embroideries to create her exquisite clothing collections.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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  Chair Dipika Khaitan said: “The UK chapter of The Akshaya Patra 
Foundation has so far raised funds to provide meals in approximately 250
 schools.
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  "The funds raised by peoples’ enormous generosity has been so beneficial in helping us to continue our vital work
 to feed and educate some of India’s poorest and deprived children. The 
Akshaya Patra Foundation often provides a lifeline for children to eat 
well, which in turn aids their educational development, which then can 
help them to achieve their full potential.
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  “We hope that on the evening of The Sparkle Gala we can raise funds to
 reach out to 300 schools and continue with our important community 
work.”
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&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;KOLKATA: Alfred Ford, grandson of iconic American industrialist  Henry Ford, would partly fund the upcoming Rs 400 croreIskcon temple at Mayapur in West Bengal.&lt;br /&gt;
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"I have given some seed capital for the huge dream project of  Srila Prabhupada,  founder of the  Iskcon movement, for construction of a temple at the birthplace of Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu,"  Ford told reporters here today.&lt;br /&gt;
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He said the project would be ready by 2016 after which there would be 
an exponential growth in the number of pilgrims and tourists visiting 
Mayapur.&lt;br /&gt;
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Presently, the number of visitors to the existing temple at Mayapur is four million, Ford, a disciple of Prabhupada, said.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once through, the temple would be taller than the Hagia Sophia in  Istanbul and the temple's dome diameter and floor space would be bigger than St Paul's Cathedral in  London, he added.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sharmila Bhattacharya
 Ford, his Bengali wife, said it would be a spectacular sight once the 
structure, covering an area of 4.25 lakh square feet on 1.5 acres, comes
 up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another disciple,  Anand Poddar, said the  Queen of England and  President of India would be invited to inaugurate the temple, which would be built with pure stainless steel.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Deccan Herald: The International Society of Krishna Consciousness (Iskcon) 
Monday said  the world's largest Vedic temple 'Chandrodaya Mandir', 
which is under  construction at West Bengal's Mayapur, would be 
inaugurated in 2016.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The 340-foot-high temple, being 
constructed at a cost of about $75 million or about Rs.37.5 crore at the
 birthplace of 16th century saint and social reformer Chaitanya 
Mahaprabhu in Nadia district, will be a centre of Vedic knowledge, 
culture and science, Iskcon officials said.&lt;br /&gt;
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Construction work for the temple, dedicated to the worship of Lord&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Krishna, started in 2010.&lt;br /&gt;
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Alfred
 Brush Ford, scion of US automobile pioneer Henry Ford, who has 
shouldered the responsibility of financing the first phase of the 
construction, told reporters here that the Chandrodaya temple would be a
 world class of attraction, bringing visitors from around the globe.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ford,
 who is also the chairman of the temple, said: "This historic project 
does not belong to any community or an individual but to the entire 
human race."&lt;br /&gt;
ISKON officials said the temple spread across 425,000 
square feet will also boast a state of the art 75-feet tall domed 
planetarium theatre, the largest in India.&lt;br /&gt;
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"The temple will be 
built at a total cost of $75 million, in which about $35 million has 
already been donated by Ford. The construction work will be completed by
 2016," an Iskcon official said.&lt;br /&gt;
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"We will invite the US president along with the Indian president to inaugurate the huge temple," he added. &lt;/div&gt;
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Taking on the UPA Government over its stand to go ahead with the 
Sethusamudram project despite the R. K. Pachauri Committee report 
suggesting it unviable, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) on Saturday 
said that the Center has declared an indirect war against Indian &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;civilization&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Accusing the government of &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;polarizing&lt;/span&gt; the nation on 
communal line by taking such steps, senior BJP leader and Rajya Sabha MP
 Balbir Punj said his party will fight against the decision in and 
outside Parliament.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;"The government stand on the issue is very 
unfortunate.  They have declared an indirect war against Indian 
civilisation, because the Ramayana and God Ram are the integral part of 
our &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;civilization&lt;/span&gt;. The government is not giving any rational logic behind
 dismissing the Pachauri Committee recommendations," said Punj.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;"The
 project will be a disaster for environmental and sentimental points of 
view and it will not going to benefit economically also. The government 
has decided to go ahead with the project by ignoring the sentiments of 
the majority only to &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;polarize&lt;/span&gt; the nation on communal lines. It needs to 
be condemned by all right thinking people and the BJP will fight against
 it in and outside Parliament," he added.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;R. K. Pachauri 
Committee, which was constituted on the Supreme Court direction, 
submitted its report on Friday, suggesting the entire Sethusamudram 
project unviable on two fronts - economically as ecologically.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;However,
 the government has rejected the Pachauri Committee report and submitted
 an affidavit in the Supreme with and intention to pursue the project 
cutting through the Adam's Bridge, popularly known as Ram Setu.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;ISKCON should come forward, take a stand and stop this idea of destroying ra&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;ma&lt;/span&gt;'s bridge.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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